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July 22, 2025 51 mins

Dr. Tony Ebel interviews Joe Wanda, founder of Wanda Farms in Harvard, Illinois, about his transformation from conventional dairy farming to regenerative agriculture. Joe shares his journey from managing a 1,400-cow industrial operation to discovering Joel Salatin's principles and starting his own grass-fed operation.

This conversation reveals the striking parallels between Big Agriculture and Big Pharma - both industries that shifted from natural approaches to chemical-dependent systems. Joe and Dr. Tony explore why grass-fed meat matters most for family health, the hidden costs of conventional farming, and how regenerative practices restore soil, animal welfare, and human health.

Listeners will discover practical steps for accessing quality food and learn why this movement is essential for future generations. The episode perfectly combines Dr. Tony's "50% Iowa Farm Boy and 50% neuroscience health nerd" perspective with Joe's real-world farming expertise.


Key Topics & Timestamps

([00:05:00]) - Joe's Origin Story: From Chicago parents to Harvard, Illinois farm life

([00:08:00]) - The 7-Year-Old Entrepreneur: Shining shoes at car dealerships with dad

([00:14:00]) - College Agriculture Awakening: Conventional training meets early skepticism

([00:20:00]) - Getting Shut Down: Questioning hormones and chemicals in agricultural school

([00:26:00]) - Industrial Dairy Reality: Managing 1,400 cows and the daily grind

([00:27:00]) - Discovering Joel Salatin: First hearing "regenerative" changes everything

([00:31:00]) - Regenerative Agriculture 101: Nutrient density over mass production

([00:36:00]) - Why Grass-Fed Meat Matters: The science behind cleaning up your meat first

([00:40:00]) - The True Cost Analysis: Hidden costs of conventional farming

([00:44:00]) - Action Steps for Families: How to access Wanda Farms and support regenerative agriculture

([00:48:00]) - Farmer Values for Kids: Why future generations need farm character and work ethic


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