July 5, 2025 • 15 mins
Our four-part Star Wars deep dive series is now live on Patreon—starting with a free 15-minute preview of our epic Star Wars -Phantom Menace breakdown. From podraces, to tariffs, to Darth Maul's double-bladed duel of the fates chaos, we unpack the Star Wars mythology, this era of Lucas, this massive indie production, and our relationship to the divisive prequels. Join us on Patreon to unlock the full four episode series (Ep's 1, 2, 4, and 5).
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(00:17):
Hello, welcome to the Extra Credits plus of George Lucas's
Star Wars The Phantom Menace. I'm Trey.
Yippee yippee now that I'm pod. Racing Star Wars.
Wow. Yeah, we're here.
I know. You know, we've covered a lot of
towering kind of modern classicson this show and on this
(00:38):
Patreon, but I think nothing quite touches the gravity, Oh
yeah, of Star Wars. Are you annoyed or excited?
So we have like put off Star Wars for a long time for a, a
few reasons, which is like 1. I just haven't really watched
(00:58):
them that much. So I'm coming in with a, a kind
of like fresh experience with these movies, which is really
fun for me obviously. But because of that too, like
there is a a huge like fandom base with Star Wars, which is
awesome that Star Wars means like so much to so many people.
(01:22):
But there's also, you know, along with that, a lot of just
men, you know, who I feel like are are very precious with their
fandom. And that's fine If that's you
today and you are like someone who is a die hard Star Wars
person and you will be upset if I don't get a detail, right?
(01:46):
Don't get character arc, right? This is not the podcast for you.
Like we are not Star Wars experts.
And I think that's like why we probably been putting it off
because like, I don't have a lotof Star Wars knowledge.
I guess also I don't know a lot of different like lore, right?
Because other people have had time to spend with the franchise
(02:07):
and maybe know like different things that were connected,
right? Like common questions that that
people might have. So, so yeah, I just, I want to
say that at the top. I feel like we need to, we need
to come up with a name for the disclaimer.
Well, you said this on one of our number one boy episodes
where we're like looking at classics that tied to to movies
that we're doing on Patreon. But you're like, oh, Kelsey's
(02:30):
doing her thing where she talks to like the three men, you know
who are like possibly listening because we've never had like
negative feedback in that way. So I'm essentially talking to no
one. That's why you always laugh.
But I'm just like, I'm preparingfor the future when people find
us who maybe aren't like just fans of us listening, but who
are like, oh, A Star Wars podcast.
(02:50):
Let me click on this. Does that make sense?
Yeah, we can call them the patriarchy.
I guess like the patriarchy disclaimer.
I feel like that's. Fine.
Yeah. So, I mean, anyway, I, I think
it's important, I guess, to stayat the beginning just because
Star Wars has that kind of unfortunate reputation.
Yeah, it is pretty sad A. Meeting to know everything.
(03:13):
Not only is this like the one ofthe highest grossing movies
we've ever discussed, probably the highest grossing movie we've
ever talked about, but in terms of like IP and movies like the
history of like some summer blockbusters, there are few
things in movie history that have completely rewritten what
movies are going to be or like what could they could become
(03:34):
while simultaneously kind of ending what they used to be,
technologically speaking. And I also think politically
speaking in so in so many ways. And so Star Wars feels like sort
of a breaking point. It feels like the end to an era.
Of course, that's probably more the 70s ones, but also the 90s
feels like the beginning to a new era.
(03:54):
Like this Phantom Menace movie came out in 1999.
This feels like the beginning ofa digital revolution in many
ways. And what this movie does to set
a standard in terms of digital storytelling and artifice that
is no longer people who are physical craftspeople, who are
more so people who are on computers or computer engineers
(04:14):
and design artist who are working on computer programs.
So this movie broke cinema in a lot of ways, and it is kind of
one of the reasons we might be dealing with an oncoming like AI
revolution in a lot of ways too.So I think we're going to have a
lot of interesting conversationstoday that aren't just Star Wars
based. So there's be a lot to discuss.
And also I want to hear your relationship to Star Wars
(04:37):
because you watched up, you grewup watching these.
Yeah, I think this was the firsttime I had sat down and watched
all nine movies in two weeks, soit was really crazy to do that
with you, but I've certainly seen.
These very emotional experience.Many times individually, yeah,
it was a very emotional experience.
We'll we'll wait to the the sortof start the movie to talk about
(04:57):
Kelsey's deeply emotional experience she had at the end of
Revenge of the Sith. But you know, I'll say at the
top here, I'll, I'll be the person that says it, I guess.
Phantom Menace is a movie that people hate and have hated for
25 to 30 years now. You know, like this is a movie
that is not really close to the greatness of the classic
(05:18):
original Skywalker trilogy to me, which are three five star
films. But I personally, because we're
30 years old, because this was our Star Wars, I personally will
defend the prequels until I die.It's our.
Nostalgia connected to this franchise, just like how people
have nostalgia seeing the original movies as kids, you
(05:41):
know, like, 'cause I mean, like,I had seen pieces of bees and
I've probably seen them in full and just forgot, like, growing
up. But yeah, like I have, I have a
connection to these movies in particular for that reason.
It's definitely nostalgia, but it's also just like one of the
most, it's one of the weirdest movies I've ever seen in my
entire life. Like straight up.
(06:02):
It doesn't even have to do with Star Wars in particular for why
I'm saying that. I don't mean to be like,
absolutist, but it is one of themost bizarre films I've ever
seen. Like where you have Jar Jar
Binks as a main character while also talking about free trade
organizations and tariffs. Yeah, it like truly is insane
that this thing got made. And we'll talk a lot about the
introduction, how George Lucas independently finances this,
(06:24):
which is wild, and why it is truly not only one of the most
experimental blockbusters of alltime, but one of the biggest
independent films of all time at$100 million budget.
And when I say indie with that big of a budget, I know you're
thinking, how is that possible? Or George Lucas sold a shit ton
of toys to the 80s and 90s and try to merchandise the hell out
of Star Wars, his original trilogy, in order to then fund
(06:46):
his vision of what he wanted forhis original 3 movies.
And he got that. And even though people were like
we, I don't want this. He was like, one day you will,
maybe you won't like it. The kids are going to love it
and I. Didn't realize he funded it like
he was right. I mean not all through toys, but
through like basically like reinvesting his franchise, like
capital. Yeah, he basically used re
(07:08):
injected a lot of his capital from the profits of the original
trilogy and a lot of the merchandising in the future to
make these movies, especially this first one.
One of my favorite things from behind the scenes.
So. Like clips was the producer just
like after they saw the first kind of like screening of the
the draft of the full movie, just like running his hands
(07:31):
through his hair like so stressful.
It's so. Interesting.
Like it just is jumping from like emotion to emotion from
like it. It feels so scattered.
And we'll talk about that conversation with him and and
George Lucas, which it was. But the behind the scenes is
really interesting to see. Yeah, I think people just forget
how scrappy and grassroots Star Wars was before Disney purchased
(07:54):
it and became more about like fan service and selling
merchandise in a more. I think what feels like a
problematic way where it feels like they're just using.
Because they're the Empire. Yeah, it's the sad truth, I
guess. Yeah, even though there's things
about the Ray trilogy that I really like, and I think Kelsey
too. Yeah, because again, we watched
(08:15):
all nine movies plus Andor in two weeks, which is wild, a wild
experience. And you can go listen to me and
James talk about Star Wars for two hours, about Andor and the
franchise at large. Yeah, and we should say we're
going to be focusing on Star Wars for a while here, and then
we'll have Revenge of the Sith on the main feed, so.
Yeah, we have Phantom of the Menace today.
We've Attack of the Clones this weekend.
We got Revenge of the Sith in about two weeks with James and
(08:36):
maybe future Star Wars episodes coming up.
So we'll see. So let's get into Phantom
Menace. We usually just jump in doing a
321 play. I thought it would be fun to
kick off something new for everyliving plus deep dive moving
forward. I would like to, before we hit
(08:57):
play on the movie itself, watch the trailer for the film that
we're covering. I think that would be fun, like
live. Watch the trailer.
So what I would like to do is I already have it pulled up here.
I didn't realize, OK, 'cause we've, we've talked about doing
this, but I didn't know we're going to do it on the pod.
I'm so ready because I've never,I don't think I've ever really
seen The Phantom Menace trailer.So I obviously have, but I was
(09:17):
like 6, you know, or whatever, you know how old I was 5 or 6
years old when this trailer cameout.
So I have not watched it since. I'm going to turn the.
I'm fascinated to see like, whatthey'll focus on because this
is, you know, bringing a whole Star Wars like fanbase back for
a Darth Vader prequel. Yeah, I guess we should say it's
been like 16 or 17 years since Return of the Jedi and fans.
(09:40):
I, I, there's a lot of great YouTube clips of fans showing up
for opening night. Like literally sleeping in tents
2 nights before the premiere to get a good seat 'cause this is
pre in terms of like trying to pick your seats online and you
have to show up really early to get a good seat.
If you watch the clips of the opening night movies the the
movie theaters, it didn't reallymatter because people are just
sitting on the floor lightsaber fighting before the Lucas crawl
(10:04):
happens. It's so weird they like were not
even aware that they could be filmed for a TikTok.
You know? I remember sitting on movie
theater floors like when movies were too full.
They're sold out. Yeah.
I think I have memories of that too, but I don't know, like what
movie I was watching. It had to be when we were very
young. It was, I mean, it was old
(10:26):
enough like I think it we were old enough where I was able to
go to the movies alone with friends, so.
Yeah, they definitely don't. Allow that.
Anymore Yeah, at the Alamo drafthouse, they literally just kill
you So. So All right, I'm gonna hit the
trailer, I'm gonna hit play in 321 and I have volume down quite
(10:47):
a bit as to not get flagged withthe music, but I still want to
hear some of it. Me.
Too. Yeah, 'cause I haven't seen it.
OK, we got the Lucasfilm. Oh, I'm.
Curious. Probably.
Turn it down, you think? It would be silly or serious.
It's a. Serious opening.
Yeah, every generation has a legend.
And we just saw, I think, like. It was the Gungans, yeah.
(11:12):
Going through the like a forest,swamp thing every.
Journey has a first step. OK, So they're really setting it
up like we're going to do a prequel because I guess again.
Nobody knew. What this was going to be?
Yeah, OK. So it does feel very serious.
Every saga has a beginning, you know, people must have been
like, wait, what the fuck? We're watching Darth Vader's
origin story. OK, sick the pod.
(11:33):
Racing. Padme, Portman, the Qui Gon EO
McGregor, The music's going crazy.
It's just a lot of images, no dialogue, which I love.
Yeah, OK. Just like a lot of battle
scenes, spaceships, showing you The Walking the scenes, yeah.
Oh, the first line is you refer to the prophecy of the one who
will bring balance to the Force.You believe it's this boy, Oscar
(11:53):
nominated actor Samuel Jackson? What a line.
It's an image of Anakin. Wow.
Oh, they show the back. Of mall.
Oh I was like do we see mall? We only see the back.
I was terrified of mall growing up.
I remember that was like such a scary scene when I was first
watching it. OK truly wanted to.
(12:14):
Oh my God. And they showed in the trailer
Anakin meeting Obi Wan Kels. There's the puppet Yoda.
Did you see that? That was puppet Yoda.
Oh, I I saw him in the Oh, I seehim now, yeah.
'Cause he's he's CG Ed in the Lucas Disney versions.
Hate Lisa Suffering Anakin. I sense fear in you, OK?
And we got the Droid. No, they showed Mall everything.
(12:40):
Oh, and they have a little. They show R2 and R2.
People must have went crazy to see how to do because those are
the only legacy characters. I guess because Obi Wan.
Nobody really knows that's Obi Wan.
Yeah, because they only know old, old Ben.
Cool. Sick.
That was good. Yeah, that's a good trailer.
Saga begins spring 1999. Wow, that's.
So weird you. Remember like all the Taco Bell
advertisements and stuff. Like I remember being at fast
(13:02):
food with my dad and just seeingall like.
All the Star Wars, Yeah, I totally forgot about that.
I feel like 1999 was a really memorable like year for me just
because of all the like, kind ofdoomsday like things of like,
what's going to happen when it hits 2000, right?
Yeah, like, is the world going to explode?
We just feel like it is such a weird time to grow up.
(13:23):
We were just talking about this last night.
Like the Internet generation, like the birth of the Internet
with growing up in that is just like an insane.
Yeah, like we grew up without the Internet and then like, as
we were like coming into being kind of conscious children,
that's when it started like growing.
Yeah, I mean, I, we didn't have a computer in my house to where
we were in middle school, but I remember it blowing my mind
(13:45):
because we were doing keyboard classes.
So we were like, we were the first generation where the
expectation was to learn how to do like, Excel, I think like
Millennial core was. Anyways, I guess we'll save this
for the live watch portion. OK.
I thought that was good. I like hearing the John Williams
theme. I I'm trying to put my head in
the head space of somebody from back then.
(14:05):
Yeah. Just thinking because they don't
show Palpatine at all. Wow, that's a good call.
Wow. And it's E McDermott back and
they don't even know. He's probably cast in it too.
Yeah, he's I guess. Yeah.
He's one of the legacy characters, R2 and NC3PO and and
that's it. He's so because the same actor
is playing C3PO2. That's really cool.
Wait, what do you mean you and? No, I'm saying Ian McDermott,
(14:29):
who plays Palpatine. Oh, sorry.
He played Palpatine in the earlyfilms too.
Did you hear me say Ewan McGregor?
Yeah, you did say the correct thing, but my mind just.
Completely Yeah, OK, let's startthe movie All right, everyone,
it's time for some pod racing, some weird midichlorian talk and
and lightsaber talk all right and a.
(14:50):
Lot of questions from Kelsey to Trey.
Which is perfect. That's what this episode's going
to be for, I think. And me just wondering what the
hell Kelsey's experience was watching this Seriously.
And not in a silly way. May the Force be with all of you
in 321 play.
Hello, welcome to the Extra Credits plus of George Lucas's
Star Wars The Phantom Menace. I'm Trey.
Yippee yippee now that I'm pod. Racing Star Wars.
Wow. Yeah, we're here.
I know. You know, we've covered a lot of
towering kind of modern classicson this show and on this
(00:38):
Patreon, but I think nothing quite touches the gravity, Oh
yeah, of Star Wars. Are you annoyed or excited?
So we have like put off Star Wars for a long time for a, a
few reasons, which is like 1. I just haven't really watched
(00:58):
them that much. So I'm coming in with a, a kind
of like fresh experience with these movies, which is really
fun for me obviously. But because of that too, like
there is a a huge like fandom base with Star Wars, which is
awesome that Star Wars means like so much to so many people.
(01:22):
But there's also, you know, along with that, a lot of just
men, you know, who I feel like are are very precious with their
fandom. And that's fine If that's you
today and you are like someone who is a die hard Star Wars
person and you will be upset if I don't get a detail, right?
(01:46):
Don't get character arc, right? This is not the podcast for you.
Like we are not Star Wars experts.
And I think that's like why we probably been putting it off
because like, I don't have a lotof Star Wars knowledge.
I guess also I don't know a lot of different like lore, right?
Because other people have had time to spend with the franchise
(02:07):
and maybe know like different things that were connected,
right? Like common questions that that
people might have. So, so yeah, I just, I want to
say that at the top. I feel like we need to, we need
to come up with a name for the disclaimer.
Well, you said this on one of our number one boy episodes
where we're like looking at classics that tied to to movies
that we're doing on Patreon. But you're like, oh, Kelsey's
(02:30):
doing her thing where she talks to like the three men, you know
who are like possibly listening because we've never had like
negative feedback in that way. So I'm essentially talking to no
one. That's why you always laugh.
But I'm just like, I'm preparingfor the future when people find
us who maybe aren't like just fans of us listening, but who
are like, oh, A Star Wars podcast.
(02:50):
Let me click on this. Does that make sense?
Yeah, we can call them the patriarchy.
I guess like the patriarchy disclaimer.
I feel like that's. Fine.
Yeah. So, I mean, anyway, I, I think
it's important, I guess, to stayat the beginning just because
Star Wars has that kind of unfortunate reputation.
Yeah, it is pretty sad A. Meeting to know everything.
(03:13):
Not only is this like the one ofthe highest grossing movies
we've ever discussed, probably the highest grossing movie we've
ever talked about, but in terms of like IP and movies like the
history of like some summer blockbusters, there are few
things in movie history that have completely rewritten what
movies are going to be or like what could they could become
(03:34):
while simultaneously kind of ending what they used to be,
technologically speaking. And I also think politically
speaking in so in so many ways. And so Star Wars feels like sort
of a breaking point. It feels like the end to an era.
Of course, that's probably more the 70s ones, but also the 90s
feels like the beginning to a new era.
(03:54):
Like this Phantom Menace movie came out in 1999.
This feels like the beginning ofa digital revolution in many
ways. And what this movie does to set
a standard in terms of digital storytelling and artifice that
is no longer people who are physical craftspeople, who are
more so people who are on computers or computer engineers
(04:14):
and design artist who are working on computer programs.
So this movie broke cinema in a lot of ways, and it is kind of
one of the reasons we might be dealing with an oncoming like AI
revolution in a lot of ways too.So I think we're going to have a
lot of interesting conversationstoday that aren't just Star Wars
based. So there's be a lot to discuss.
And also I want to hear your relationship to Star Wars
(04:37):
because you watched up, you grewup watching these.
Yeah, I think this was the firsttime I had sat down and watched
all nine movies in two weeks, soit was really crazy to do that
with you, but I've certainly seen.
These very emotional experience.Many times individually, yeah,
it was a very emotional experience.
We'll we'll wait to the the sortof start the movie to talk about
(04:57):
Kelsey's deeply emotional experience she had at the end of
Revenge of the Sith. But you know, I'll say at the
top here, I'll, I'll be the person that says it, I guess.
Phantom Menace is a movie that people hate and have hated for
25 to 30 years now. You know, like this is a movie
that is not really close to the greatness of the classic
(05:18):
original Skywalker trilogy to me, which are three five star
films. But I personally, because we're
30 years old, because this was our Star Wars, I personally will
defend the prequels until I die.It's our.
Nostalgia connected to this franchise, just like how people
have nostalgia seeing the original movies as kids, you
(05:41):
know, like, 'cause I mean, like,I had seen pieces of bees and
I've probably seen them in full and just forgot, like, growing
up. But yeah, like I have, I have a
connection to these movies in particular for that reason.
It's definitely nostalgia, but it's also just like one of the
most, it's one of the weirdest movies I've ever seen in my
entire life. Like straight up.
(06:02):
It doesn't even have to do with Star Wars in particular for why
I'm saying that. I don't mean to be like,
absolutist, but it is one of themost bizarre films I've ever
seen. Like where you have Jar Jar
Binks as a main character while also talking about free trade
organizations and tariffs. Yeah, it like truly is insane
that this thing got made. And we'll talk a lot about the
introduction, how George Lucas independently finances this,
(06:24):
which is wild, and why it is truly not only one of the most
experimental blockbusters of alltime, but one of the biggest
independent films of all time at$100 million budget.
And when I say indie with that big of a budget, I know you're
thinking, how is that possible? Or George Lucas sold a shit ton
of toys to the 80s and 90s and try to merchandise the hell out
of Star Wars, his original trilogy, in order to then fund
(06:46):
his vision of what he wanted forhis original 3 movies.
And he got that. And even though people were like
we, I don't want this. He was like, one day you will,
maybe you won't like it. The kids are going to love it
and I. Didn't realize he funded it like
he was right. I mean not all through toys, but
through like basically like reinvesting his franchise, like
capital. Yeah, he basically used re
(07:08):
injected a lot of his capital from the profits of the original
trilogy and a lot of the merchandising in the future to
make these movies, especially this first one.
One of my favorite things from behind the scenes.
So. Like clips was the producer just
like after they saw the first kind of like screening of the
the draft of the full movie, just like running his hands
(07:31):
through his hair like so stressful.
It's so. Interesting.
Like it just is jumping from like emotion to emotion from
like it. It feels so scattered.
And we'll talk about that conversation with him and and
George Lucas, which it was. But the behind the scenes is
really interesting to see. Yeah, I think people just forget
how scrappy and grassroots Star Wars was before Disney purchased
(07:54):
it and became more about like fan service and selling
merchandise in a more. I think what feels like a
problematic way where it feels like they're just using.
Because they're the Empire. Yeah, it's the sad truth, I
guess. Yeah, even though there's things
about the Ray trilogy that I really like, and I think Kelsey
too. Yeah, because again, we watched
(08:15):
all nine movies plus Andor in two weeks, which is wild, a wild
experience. And you can go listen to me and
James talk about Star Wars for two hours, about Andor and the
franchise at large. Yeah, and we should say we're
going to be focusing on Star Wars for a while here, and then
we'll have Revenge of the Sith on the main feed, so.
Yeah, we have Phantom of the Menace today.
We've Attack of the Clones this weekend.
We got Revenge of the Sith in about two weeks with James and
(08:36):
maybe future Star Wars episodes coming up.
So we'll see. So let's get into Phantom
Menace. We usually just jump in doing a
321 play. I thought it would be fun to
kick off something new for everyliving plus deep dive moving
forward. I would like to, before we hit
(08:57):
play on the movie itself, watch the trailer for the film that
we're covering. I think that would be fun, like
live. Watch the trailer.
So what I would like to do is I already have it pulled up here.
I didn't realize, OK, 'cause we've, we've talked about doing
this, but I didn't know we're going to do it on the pod.
I'm so ready because I've never,I don't think I've ever really
seen The Phantom Menace trailer.So I obviously have, but I was
(09:17):
like 6, you know, or whatever, you know how old I was 5 or 6
years old when this trailer cameout.
So I have not watched it since. I'm going to turn the.
I'm fascinated to see like, whatthey'll focus on because this
is, you know, bringing a whole Star Wars like fanbase back for
a Darth Vader prequel. Yeah, I guess we should say it's
been like 16 or 17 years since Return of the Jedi and fans.
(09:40):
I, I, there's a lot of great YouTube clips of fans showing up
for opening night. Like literally sleeping in tents
2 nights before the premiere to get a good seat 'cause this is
pre in terms of like trying to pick your seats online and you
have to show up really early to get a good seat.
If you watch the clips of the opening night movies the the
movie theaters, it didn't reallymatter because people are just
sitting on the floor lightsaber fighting before the Lucas crawl
(10:04):
happens. It's so weird they like were not
even aware that they could be filmed for a TikTok.
You know? I remember sitting on movie
theater floors like when movies were too full.
They're sold out. Yeah.
I think I have memories of that too, but I don't know, like what
movie I was watching. It had to be when we were very
young. It was, I mean, it was old
(10:26):
enough like I think it we were old enough where I was able to
go to the movies alone with friends, so.
Yeah, they definitely don't. Allow that.
Anymore Yeah, at the Alamo drafthouse, they literally just kill
you So. So All right, I'm gonna hit the
trailer, I'm gonna hit play in 321 and I have volume down quite
(10:47):
a bit as to not get flagged withthe music, but I still want to
hear some of it. Me.
Too. Yeah, 'cause I haven't seen it.
OK, we got the Lucasfilm. Oh, I'm.
Curious. Probably.
Turn it down, you think? It would be silly or serious.
It's a. Serious opening.
Yeah, every generation has a legend.
And we just saw, I think, like. It was the Gungans, yeah.
(11:12):
Going through the like a forest,swamp thing every.
Journey has a first step. OK, So they're really setting it
up like we're going to do a prequel because I guess again.
Nobody knew. What this was going to be?
Yeah, OK. So it does feel very serious.
Every saga has a beginning, you know, people must have been
like, wait, what the fuck? We're watching Darth Vader's
origin story. OK, sick the pod.
(11:33):
Racing. Padme, Portman, the Qui Gon EO
McGregor, The music's going crazy.
It's just a lot of images, no dialogue, which I love.
Yeah, OK. Just like a lot of battle
scenes, spaceships, showing you The Walking the scenes, yeah.
Oh, the first line is you refer to the prophecy of the one who
will bring balance to the Force.You believe it's this boy, Oscar
(11:53):
nominated actor Samuel Jackson? What a line.
It's an image of Anakin. Wow.
Oh, they show the back. Of mall.
Oh I was like do we see mall? We only see the back.
I was terrified of mall growing up.
I remember that was like such a scary scene when I was first
watching it. OK truly wanted to.
(12:14):
Oh my God. And they showed in the trailer
Anakin meeting Obi Wan Kels. There's the puppet Yoda.
Did you see that? That was puppet Yoda.
Oh, I I saw him in the Oh, I seehim now, yeah.
'Cause he's he's CG Ed in the Lucas Disney versions.
Hate Lisa Suffering Anakin. I sense fear in you, OK?
And we got the Droid. No, they showed Mall everything.
(12:40):
Oh, and they have a little. They show R2 and R2.
People must have went crazy to see how to do because those are
the only legacy characters. I guess because Obi Wan.
Nobody really knows that's Obi Wan.
Yeah, because they only know old, old Ben.
Cool. Sick.
That was good. Yeah, that's a good trailer.
Saga begins spring 1999. Wow, that's.
So weird you. Remember like all the Taco Bell
advertisements and stuff. Like I remember being at fast
(13:02):
food with my dad and just seeingall like.
All the Star Wars, Yeah, I totally forgot about that.
I feel like 1999 was a really memorable like year for me just
because of all the like, kind ofdoomsday like things of like,
what's going to happen when it hits 2000, right?
Yeah, like, is the world going to explode?
We just feel like it is such a weird time to grow up.
(13:23):
We were just talking about this last night.
Like the Internet generation, like the birth of the Internet
with growing up in that is just like an insane.
Yeah, like we grew up without the Internet and then like, as
we were like coming into being kind of conscious children,
that's when it started like growing.
Yeah, I mean, I, we didn't have a computer in my house to where
we were in middle school, but I remember it blowing my mind
(13:45):
because we were doing keyboard classes.
So we were like, we were the first generation where the
expectation was to learn how to do like, Excel, I think like
Millennial core was. Anyways, I guess we'll save this
for the live watch portion. OK.
I thought that was good. I like hearing the John Williams
theme. I I'm trying to put my head in
the head space of somebody from back then.
(14:05):
Yeah. Just thinking because they don't
show Palpatine at all. Wow, that's a good call.
Wow. And it's E McDermott back and
they don't even know. He's probably cast in it too.
Yeah, he's I guess. Yeah.
He's one of the legacy characters, R2 and NC3PO and and
that's it. He's so because the same actor
is playing C3PO2. That's really cool.
Wait, what do you mean you and? No, I'm saying Ian McDermott,
(14:29):
who plays Palpatine. Oh, sorry.
He played Palpatine in the earlyfilms too.
Did you hear me say Ewan McGregor?
Yeah, you did say the correct thing, but my mind just.
Completely Yeah, OK, let's startthe movie All right, everyone,
it's time for some pod racing, some weird midichlorian talk and
and lightsaber talk all right and a.
(14:50):
Lot of questions from Kelsey to Trey.
Which is perfect. That's what this episode's going
to be for, I think. And me just wondering what the
hell Kelsey's experience was watching this Seriously.
And not in a silly way. May the Force be with all of you
in 321 play.
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