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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ready or Not is the
film that we looked at and deep
dove into for this episode ofthe Phantom Portals podcast.
It was made in 2019.
And in this episode, you'lllearn what a porn wedding dress
can really say about a character.
Now, costume design there's alot of the heavy lifting.
You'll also learn about thecreepy but clever horror tropes,
including the ones that arehiding in plain sight in this
movie, like Eat the Rich and theDeadly Game, and you'll also
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learn about how Ready or Notmixes blood, laughs and the
brutal truth about wealth andprivilege and the surprising
ways that satire sharpens thishorror movie and why you might
never look at rich families thesame ever again.
Welcome to the Fandom Portalspodcast, the podcast that
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explores how fandoms can help uslearn and grow.
I'm your host, aaron, and I'mhere, as always, with Mr Brash
Rackham.
Hello, all right.
This week, guys, we are lookingat the horror comedy satire film
Ready or Not, made in 2019.
This movie is about a bride'swedding night that takes a
sinister turn when her eccentricnew in-laws force her to take
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part in a terrifying game.
But before we get into that,before we get into our deep dive
, we're doing our gratitudes forthe week and, brash, I'm going
to go first.
This week I am grateful for mycuriosity.
So I'm doing a personalgratitude, because usually I'm
grateful for other things, butsometimes it's good to be
grateful for the things that youare practicing a bit of
self-love.
So I am grateful for mycuriosity, because my curiosity
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is sometimes a bad thing, but itis often a good thing too,
because it sends me down deep,diving rabbit holes that allow
me to do amazing things, likethis podcast, and it also helps
me to learn new things that grow.
And my curiosity is almost likethis drive to complete
something, and I don't know if Iwould want to be without it, if
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I could fix it.
You know, if you can get aswitch, turn something off your
personality and you're just likewould you do that?
I wouldn't, because I like it.
So I am grateful for mycuriosity this week.
Brash, what are you gratefulfor?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I am ungrateful.
Oh, here we go, ungrateful fora I.
It's going false, but um, Imissed out on voting because I
forgot and I was watchingwrestling.
So because I missed voting, Igot a fine in the mail for $161.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So in Australia, it
is mandatory for every person
over the age of 18 to vote inall federal elections, and Brash
was a naughty boy and decidedto stay home and watch
WrestleMania instead of go tohis local voting booth and have
his say.
So the government charged him$160 for the convenience of not
hearing his opinion.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But I don't like any
of the people.
I just go to work, get paid soI can play video games and watch
movies.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's a simple life.
Yeah, I think you had anenjoyable day watching
WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, All the same.
Yeah, I just have to fork outsome money.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's fine, would you
pay?
Somebody says you can't watchWrestleMania unless you pay $160
.
Would you pay that money?
Yes, problem solved.
You're fine, all good.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, I'm trying to
save off as much as I can at the
moment because I want to tryand get to Perth for the crown
jewel.
This will be the last timeanyone likes to see John Cena in
a ring, ever since it's hislast year Take care and he's
coming to Australia.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
All right, ready or
Not?
Is the film that we looked at.
Stick around, guys, it's goingto be a good episode.
This movie, directed by MattBatinelli, oplin and Tyler
Gillette, also known as RadioSilence they're famous for the
Scream movies and also Abigail,written by Guy Busick for Final
Destination Bloodlines, a movieyou recently saw.
Brash yes, he is a horrorveteran.
The movie stars Samara Weavingand Screen Rant actually rates
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this movie Ready or Not as herbest horror performance.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, I've got to say
she has been in a lot of horror
movies, but I find there'shorror movies and then there's
like sort of B-grade horrormovies that a lot of actors,
like even famous actors, are inbut they just don't cross that
sort of threshold of beingextremely popular Yep.
Either way, there's a secondone coming out of being
extremely popular Yep.
Even though there's a secondone coming out, I feel like
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probably at the time of itsrelease, even though it might
have done all right, probablydidn't hit the same numbers as
like your Screams or yourChainsaw Massacres, or your 13th
Night at Miranolam Streets andstuff like that, or your Friday
the 13th.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It was an unsung hero
.
It only made $57 million at theworldwide box office over its
release, but it was made on abudget of $6 million, so it's
considered a financial success.
But yeah, you're right, itdidn't get as much as the Scream
franchise, which is now birthedover seven or eight movies, I
think.
But it is indeed getting asequel and, funnily enough,
they've actually secured,according to some announcements,
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some pretty big names in thesequel.
So Samara Weaving is set toreturn and Sarah Michelle Gellar
is also involved.
Obviously, famous for Buffy,the Vampire Slayer, elijah Wood,
my favorite Hobbit, is going tobe in it as well.
He's no stranger to horror aswell.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You're a favorite
Hobbit's proto.
Well he's in my top four.
He's my favorite, hobbit'sFrodo.
Well, he's in my top four.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
He's my favourite
Hobbit.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh, so who's the
fifth one who got left out, epin
?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh yeah, he's been a
bitch.
Yeah, I'm like Gandalf.
What a joke.
Come on, what about secondbreakfast?
I want to get that tattooed onmy arm.
Anyway, my digress.
Another person in the moviecoming out in Ready or Not, here
I Come is what the sequel'scalled is Kevin Durant, who
played Proxima Caesar.
He does a good creepy.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh yeah, he's just
cool in general.
He's just a cool dude.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, same directors,
same writers, and filming began
this April, in 2025, so itshould be released early next
year, but there is no dateconfirmed for the sequel.
But yes, samara Weaving,australian actress, very famous
for us growing up as millennialsas she played Indy Walker on
Home and Away.
Home and Away yeah, sheactually appeared in over 300
episodes of Home and Away, whichis an Australian soap opera
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you've heard us talking about alot.
And she's also in Ash vs EvilDead, which I think we should
put on the list Brash, becausethat's another comedy horror
mashup that I've never seen.
And this movie also stars ourfavorite TV nerd, the man
himself, adam Brody.
I love Adam Brody From the OC,seth Cohen and also plays Noah
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in the hit TV show Nobody Wantsthis.
He's a famous nerd, a famousJew and, in this movie, a famous
alcoholic.
He's probably my favoritecharacter in this movie.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
honestly, he is mine,
he is 100% mine, second only by
the younger sister F7.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
she's crazy funny, but yes,
this movie was actually alsonominated for a Saturnurn award
the best horror film in 2021.
It lost to the invisible man,but it was also up against dr
sleep and midsummer, so, ormidsummer, uh, it was kind of
swept under the rug, wasn't it?
We talked about it a little bitearlier, but yeah, yeah, it
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didn't really get the the praiseor the approval that it for
something.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's actually pretty
good and it has become quite a
popular trope now with all ofJordan Peele's moves like Us and
Get Out.
I actually haven't watched theother two, but I've watched Nope
and I loved Nope.
I thought it was absolutelyhilarious.
It was so good but like spooky,hilarious but hilarious yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I really liked it.
We will now get into our nextsegment.
In this hot take segment, wediscuss our first thoughts of
the media and unpack the boldestopinions, from what surprised
us to what split the room.
We'll also highlight your hottakes from our threads,
instagram and Reddit communities.
So if you want to get involvedwith that, make sure you check
out the show notes.
It's all in there and we'llread out your little comment on
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our podcast and have a littlechat about it.
So if you want to be part ofour community, make sure you go
and do that, like these amazingpeople will from our Reddit.
The first one on our Reddit isThiefBam357, who says that the
characters in this movie madeboneheaded decisions.
Why didn't she grab one of thetwo pistols?
Why didn't she just keeprunning instead of going to the
stable?
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Why did she think that kidwasn't going to shoot her?
Why would anybody in theirright mind think to plead with
anybody in that house?
And you know what I think inhorror movies not that I'm a
season's horror movie person,but there's always an element of
you should have done that, oh,100%.
I'm sorry, it's 2020.
Exactly, and I don't think youcan really predict what you
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would do in a situation likethat, because you're never in
one.
It's an unlikely situation andfear takes over and our logical
brain, watching this from ourpopcorn-soaked couch, can't
really dictate the decisions ofthe characters in the movie.
Like it's fun to talk about aswell.
It's fun to say what an idiotyou should have done this.
Like never go upstairs whileyou're being chased by a horror
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movie villain.
That's my rule 101.
Never go upstairs becauseyou're trapped.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
But the thing is like
with the whole thing of why
would you plead with anyone inthat family.
I mean, the only personrealistically she really sort of
tries to plead to the most isDaniel, and I can feel that
because he's like he's cynicalthrough the whole movie.
But yeah, and I can't watchwhere she's coming from, but I
also get where she's coming from, because the thing is, when
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you're trapped and you've gotnowhere to go, you've got left.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's it.
Yeah, by the flat, exactly, andLegal Swimming 831 has said
that they liked Samara Weavingin this and she was also just as
good in the Babysitter.
I haven't seen the Babysitterthe.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Babysitter is also
really good and something to be
pointing to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, All right,
let's jump into our threads.
All right, we have somethingfrom our threads community.
Peruna2001, a avid and frequentcommenter on our post, says
that they loved it.
I went into the theater nottotally knowing what to expect.
The scene where the maid getskilled but it takes several
tries reminded me of Dr Evil inAustin Powers killing Will
Ferrell's character.
It made me laugh, I love thistype of movie, just having fun,
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I like it.
And then the crazy aunt goes inwith the axe and just yeah,
finishes the job and everybody'sdisgusted.
I liked the fact that they werekind of disgusted by what they
were doing, because it showed, a, that they didn't do it very
often and, two, it showed thateven though they were fully
morally committed to doing this,they were actually very inept,
which kind of mirrors that sortof political slash class
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association where some peoplethat are in a wealthy position
aren't qualified to be in awealthy position even though
they get lots of money for whatthey're doing, if you know what
I mean by that, likegenerational wealth especially,
which is what this movie is acommentary of, but we'll get
into that a lot more a littlebit later as well.
Eluin from our threads alsosays you learn almost nothing
about her history or her desires, which makes it really hard to
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care about her more than thefact that she's being chased by
murderers.
I think she's referring toSamara Weaving's character of
Grace.
I mean, the characters are alittle bit thin in this movie,
but I think we learn a littlebit about her just from passing
dialogue, the fact that she is abit of a like she's an orphaned
character.
She comes from foster homes,and I think that is also what
they use to explain the factthat she is pretty savvy and has
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survival skills.
Like she can front up to peoplethat are similar size to her or
those that are attacking her.
She's got a bit of, as we sayin.
Israel.
A bit of mongrel in her.
A bit of mongrel, yeah, she'sable to fight through some
pretty disastrous situations.
And one thing that I like aboutSamara Weaving actually is her
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performances when she's notreally saying much dialogue but
she's evoking fear or she isscreaming, because a lot of the
scream queens that you can thinkof in movies like horror movies
, they kind of go over the topor they go high pitch and it's.
But.
But when Samara Weaving did itin this movie, ready or Not, she
was like guttural oranimalistic and it really played
to the fact that she wasactually in a fearful situation
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and she was fighting for herlife, especially when she had
the bullet wound through herhand and had to climb out of the
goat pit, which is obviously avery famous scene in this movie,
probably at the start of thesecond.
That's where shit got real forme and I was watching and I was
like, okay, this is a horrormovie, that's not a funny horror
movie part.
This is a horror movie, that'snot a funny horror movie part.
This is a horror horror moviepart.
But yeah, I don't know if Iwould detract from the movie
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because there isn't muchcharacter development in terms
of her character, of Grace'scharacter, because I think we're
given enough.
We're given enough to say thatshe's completely different from
these people.
Yeah, and she's invested in, uh, you know, trying to fit in or
trying to be a part of thisfamily and go along with the
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absurd traditions, because she'snever been a part of a family
before, she's a, she's a childfrom foster care.
So I think that alone is enoughcharacter development for a
movie like this, anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
so I wouldn't want
this movie to have like
flashbacks like that, that wouldruin it.
But but just in her survival orjust things that she does
related back to something shedid in the past.
That's why she knows how to usethat, because she doesn't know
that well, the balls are justfor show.
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But she tucks the bullet in it,cocks it, aims it, fires it.
Nothing happens.
So she knows how to shoot a gun.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, load a, it
cocks, it, aims, it, fires it
nothing happens.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So she knows how to
shoot a gun.
Yeah, load a gun, shoot a gun,yeah.
Yeah, like when she's doing shecan be like all shapely, like
I've been to like the gun rangeor I've done something, I know
how to use this thing.
That sort of like relate backto her past a little bit could
have helped people relate to hera bit more.
But yeah, I agree with you,like realistically it doesn't
need it.
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I don't believe, Not for thiskind of movie, because this is
purely.
A girl gets invited to crazyrich person house.
She then has to fight for herlife to survive.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, and I think
that when they made this and
it's kind of a breath of freshair really they made it with the
intention of it being astandalone movie, which doesn't
happen very often.
So they gave you all theinformation that you needed and
nothing more.
Now it's becoming a franchise,with a sequel coming out.
Maybe we will learn a littlebit more about Samara Weeping's
character of Grace.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I am a little bit
apprehensive about it, because
now, if they try and do a wholebackstory thing with her, are
they going to ruin the movie byhaving a huge expose that is
going to detract from the actualwhat the movie is, which is her
surviving.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, I don't know
how much of a presence she
should have or will have in thesequel, because we don't know
what happened to her at the endof this movie.
Obviously, she survives andshe's sitting on the steps of
this movie with a bloodied andburnt out wedding dress and
she's the sole survivor of theLaDoma's fortune, incredibly
wealthy now.
Or is she in jail?
We don't know yeah and well.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It also could be a
similar thing to like Fun
Destination where, because theywere stuck in the actual thing,
they say oh, I remember whathappened to the McMurray's,
whatever they're called how theythey like.
Oh, did they die in a housefire that was some foreshadowing
, Foreshadowing that, likethey're not the only people who
have dealings with the devil.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Isn't that funny how
that one little throwaway line
is what is probably now going tobirth the sequel, Because that
up too I I picked up the factthat they there were other
families in their position thatobviously made deals with um
labelle, labelle yeah, who?
and they obviously got theirfortune.
The lord domus has got theirfortune from him and there was
that slight nod at the end tosay, yes, you got away from me.
Uh, you were able to survive.
But then you know there's thatwhole tradition that goes
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through with selecting the gamefor the new entrance to the
family as well.
How much is it is going to besimilar in other families that
go through these kinds ofritualistic offerings for the
next time, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And she might go
ahead and her character might be
going around and maybe usingthat wealth to try and find
other people who are going to bein her situation and try and
help them.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's true, she might bethe expert on this sort of
situation now, yeah, and helpingthe next survivor.
But yeah, I think that I'lldefinitely be going to see
Rodeon and here I come and we'llget into our next segment,
which is called Get to Know yourCrossbow.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Nah, not really it's
Fandom Fact.
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We've already got six.
Nope, we've already got fivepoints.
Brash, which means we need 20more before we can give
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something away.
Do you want me to go first?
yes, you can go first okay, thismovie, ready or not, was shot
chronologically, which is kindof rare, because usually in a
location movie they shoot thescenes that they need to and
they put them together in postin chronological order.
However, this movie was shot inchronological order, which
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means the very first scene thatyou see is the first scene that
was shot, and then so forth andso forth to the very very end.
Now, they did this for aparticular reason.
Do you know what that reasonwas?
And I'll give you a clue it'sbecause Samara Weaving had to do
something 26 times and it wasrequired that she do it
chronologically.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Because my first
thought was because as she's
going she gets more shit on heras she goes, so like blood and
dirt and bile and shit fromfalling into the goat pit.
So if they were to do it out oforder they'd be constantly
having to try and match theamount of shit that's on her as
she went through the night.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, so pretty much
the the wedding dress and the
way that she had to put on thatwedding dress for 26 to 30 days
of shooting.
That's what she had to do overand over and over again, and she
actually committed to puttingon the dress after a day of
shooting and after the fact thatit was dirty and you know she'd
obviously go home after, afterher work, and then she'd come
back and it'd be torn, it'd beburned, it'd be bloodied and
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it'd be weathered, and it would.
It was to match the film'sescalating violence, and samara
weaving's commitment meant thatwearing versions of the same
dirty and sweaty dress every dayunder intense heat and high
action sequences becamesomething that she kind of had
to get used to, and the garmentactually became allegorical for
the growth that she goes throughin terms of mirroring her
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rejection to the Lodomus'family's patriarchal and
ritualistic legacies.
Because at the start of themovie it's white, it's perfect,
it's pristine.
The lighting in the actualmovie is really colorful and
you're hopeful for the fact thatshe's starting and entering
this new family.
And then the moment the dressrips is when she's getting out
of the dumb waiter and that'swhen she starts to click that
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this family isn't actually whatit seems.
So that's the like theceremonial dress that's supposed
to represent purity andsubmission to the patriarchal
regime of the LaDomas family.
There's a tear in it, so there'sa little fracture of thought
where she's like, oh, maybe thisisn't really what it seems.
And then, finally, the partwhere she rips the dress the
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most, or the first part when sherips the dress the most, was
after Alex tells her everythingabout the traditions of the
LaDomas family.
So he says you know, this isthe only card that you could
have drawn that could have madethis happen.
My family is in league with adark entity.
We have to try and kill you.
If you survive till sunrise, weall die.
And then she tears the dressaround the knees so she can
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continue to run away and worseand worse and worse,
chronologically throughout theperformance until, naturally, at
the very end, she is sitting inno longer a white wedding dress
but a black, charred andbloodied wedding dress, which is
the complete opposite of howshe started.
So this dress is almost like acharacter in the movie that
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shows you how the character ofGrace is progressing with her
feelings towards the Lodomusfamily, as the movie goes on as
well, and they needed to shootchronologically in order to get
that effect.
I'll give you the point forthat.
Yeah, which is a prettyspectacular thing if you think
about it, oh yeah, for her to beable to put that dress on after
a day, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
My first one, similar
to aspects of clothing, there
was something that she had towear that they had to modify
because it's no longer created.
You know what it is yes, I readthis.
They had to recreate her shoesbecause converse didn't make
them the yellow color anymore no, yeah, so they want yellow
shoes, but yeah, they um don'tmake that color anymore, so they
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had to get them custom spraypainted yeah, as soon as I saw
those yellow shoes, I was like Iwonder if they have them,
because my partner Kalia, she,loves Converse.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, I was like she
would love a pair of those
because when, yeah, when wefirst met, she used to wear high
tops in the Converse andexactly like the ones that
Samara Weavings were wearing inthe movie.
And she, yeah, definitelysomething she would wear.
I like those shoes.
They're great.
Am I go?
Yeah, I'll go.
Okay, ready or not.
And the game hide and seek wasbased in inspired by folklore
and urban legends, but, mostspecifically, the deadly game
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trope was also very heavily usedand it originated from this
piece of literature.
Do you know what it was?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I don't believe it is
a famous piece of literature.
Do you know what it was?
Ooh, I don't believe.
Is it a famous piece ofliterature, would you say?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's famous for the
horror movie genre and trope,
but I wouldn't say that it iscompletely famous.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's not from the
book that Clara reads to the
kids Paradise.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Lost.
No, not Paradise Lost.
So this is the book called theMost Dangerous Game made in 1932
.
Oh fuck, it's the originaltrope where a hunter traps
people on his island and hehunts them for sport.
I should know this.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, it's one
countless adaptation Because of
the movie that I've picked forus.
Yeah, know this.
Yeah, it's one countlessadaptation Because of the movie
that I've picked for us.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, so this movie
has a massive theme of the rich,
or the privileged, hunting downthe poor.
And, yeah, the Most DangerousGame was the original book that
was created.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That has that in it.
Okay, so mine.
This might be also a bit of adifficult one, but I think it's
pretty fun.
So there were five board gamesin the family cupboard where it
seems, almost purposefully, thatthere's a gap between the
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people standing there to show aclear view of all the board
games in the cupboard.
I won't say name them all, butcan you name three of them?
I?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
remember one that had
like the devil's face on it,
that was called LaBelle's Gambit, and then there was one called
Family Ritual, but I don'tremember the rest.
Think Court of Outs the Batman.
Ah, what are the Court of Outs?
Secret Society, close Secret.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Local Government.
What are they called about?
Secret society, close, secretlocal government secret council
hey, so, yeah, that's that's forhim.
So, family ritual, thinking,family ritual, it's like all
these, all these board games arepretty much there for specific
reasons.
The family ritual, obviouslybecause it's a it's their family
sort of thing and that's aritual that they do for the
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weddings to play the games andthey all want to be
ritualistically killed.
Grace and then Secret Council,because they were well back in
the as they said in the movieback in the day, they used to
like it was their father's ideato like wear masks and gowns and
everything like that as like asecret sort of council.
Little Bales Gambit obviouslyis like because that's their
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board game, that's their game,that's their gambit, because
they made that gambit with the.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, that's right,
the bargain.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, bargain.
And then Sunrise.
If you miss the sunrise, theyall die.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Ah, so those board
games are all placed on purpose.
Ah, so those board games areall a physical act of
foreshadowing.
There's a lot of foreshadowingin this movie as well, and I
actually read something thatsaid that some people think that
all of that foreshadowing, andespecially some of the things
that the characters saythroughout, actually allude to
the fact that the game of hideand seek was actually rigged for
Grace.
So it was rigged that she wouldpick the card of hide and seek
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Because at the very start of themovie, if you remember, the
kids are running around andrunning around and they're
wearing the mask and they'resaying like kill, kill, kill.
And then Daniel says to put themask away.
But if this is something thathas only happened once in their
lifetime and never before thekids were around, there's
obviously been some chat aboutit through the family.
This be something that'shappening.
And you know, I feel like theladormuses.
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They pick and choose who isgoing to become a part of their
family because they are alignedto their ideals.
Like, if you look at the othertwo characters, um with charity,
played by elisa levesque, andalso bitch, played by christian
brun.
Both of those characters,they're assholes.
(25:29):
Basically, they're happy to beindoctrinated into this rich
lifestyle with Christian Braun'scharacter of Bitch.
He's like the clueless socialclimber.
And then Charity, who isDaniel's wife.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Cutthroat go-getter.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, aspirational,
she's cruel, she's
self-preserving, she's got thiselitism about her and she even
said you know, I'd rather bedead than poor or something like
that, or I'll never go backthere again.
And she's more in it than herhusband is, who is actually a
part of the family and he a partof the family and he's
indoctrinated into it and hehates it.
Yeah, and I just thought it wasso ironic that her name is
Charity and she's literallyshe's anything, but yeah she's
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literally anything but, and Ithought that was really clever.
But, you know, going back to howthey thought it might have been
rigged, there's there's also,you know, when they first get
married, on the bed and then theauntie's hiding in the
background and she says you'llhave to hide.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Better than that,
yeah, it's almost like the whole
family, except for Alex, is inon it, and actually in saying
that if they were becauseusually you can't read it, it's
just random what card you get,it's picked If they somehow
figured out a way to read itbecause they're like, oh, we
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don't want some person who'sjust a, who took our son away
and Exactly yeah, and we don'twant that kind of person in our
family they might try to read it.
And then it could have actuallybeen the work of LaBelle
LaBelle or the devil himself,who, mr LaBelle, who did in fact
go?
You know what?
If they want to cheat, becausethey cheat like they basically
(27:08):
cheated.
If they did that, they cheatedand their consequence is that
they would all be beaten by thisperson.
Be beaten by this person andthey'll either just die at once
or like, unfortunately, to themother and don't make it to the
end.
But and some of the other poorpeople in the house but pretty
much everyone else in that housedies because they decided they
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wanted to cheat and not let thespiritist person in their house
instead of playing the gamefairly.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, and you could
even look at the inverse of that
.
Whereas if the devil wanted tocontinue this tradition, have
this tradition keep going, heneeds to include people in the
Ledomus family who are going towant to continue that tradition.
And looking at Grace, she'slike the outsider, she's a
working class individual.
She's thrust into this elitesystem of power.
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Her name literally symbolizeslike moral dignity and
resilience and she survivesthrough this trauma.
But looking at her as a personand in a personality, this
person that Alex has picked for,one, it's going to draw Alex
away from the Lodomas family,which removes a member from this
cult, and then two, he's goingto have an inserted member into
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that family who's going todisagree with the status quo.
Like this game was kind ofrigged to single her out and
have her removed from the familyfrom the very start.
Whether it was from the actualdevil, mr LaBelle, or whether it
was from the actual LaDomasfamily, but either way, she
never stood a chance to beaccepted in that family.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I think that it was
the family's choice to rig the
game, and then not so much thatLaBelle helped her, but maybe it
was like a little more rootingfor her, and then that's why
then at the end, when it theneveryone gets killed, or when
she's like a nod gives her a nodand says congratulations yeah,
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well done.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, yeah I.
There's also an argument to saythat perhaps the family did
orchestrate it, because rememberthere was the dialogue
throughout the whole movie wherethey were saying that Alex was
deviating further and furtheraway from the family.
So they didn't want him havingthis happy marriage with Grace
because it would ostracize himfurther from them.
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So, just like what happenedwith the auntie, with Aunt
Helene, if his spouse died as aresult of this tradition, then
perhaps he would have no otherreason to seek an outward look
from what the family were doingand he would turn back into the
family, because they allperceived him as being the new
head of the Lodomus empire, ordominion, as they like to call
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it.
There was the darkness in him,whereas Daniel the Lodomus
Empire or Dominion as they liketo call it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, but there's a
lot of, because there was the
darkness in him, whereas Daniel,the older brother, who really
should be the one to air, didn'thave that.
And you see that sort of whenthey're kids as well, how
Daniel's trying to protect theyounger brother, but the younger
brother was sort of into it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, I actually
found that really fascinating
when you're looking at Alex andDaniel and Daniel was really
protective and sort of almostlike he was a bit more resilient
to the draw of the or theseduction of what the Lododomas
family is doing and Alex was inthe dark about it but he was
also kind of into it.
But then you look at who Danielmarried he married Charity.
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He's really into it, just likeAlex, and Alex married Grace,
who wouldn't be into it, justlike Daniel.
So their closest familialrelationship.
They found familiarity in theirpartners and their personality
types kind of match in that waytoo.
I found that really interestingto look at those two characters
and see the psychology behindthat yeah, that's the very
interesting take.
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Yeah, but we digress yeah, let'sget on to my question.
Um, all right, the ending ofthis movie was actually supposed
to be very, very different.
Obviously, this ending had theladomas family explode in a
combustion of blood as dawn rose, after a slight moment where
they thought to themselves maybethis curse wasn't real because
nothing happened when the sunrose.
But then, in an instant, theyall decided to erupt in a red
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fury and flash.
However, the original ending inthe original script was
different.
Do you know what was supposedto happen in the original ending
?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
obviously no.
I'm going to take a stab.
This was a bit of a one-off, soI don't think they'd have them
actually kill Samara Weavingbecause her character Grace,
because then there's a chancethat it can continue if they did
that, whereas how they left itis pretty much end of story.
I'm going to say does she justkill them all?
No, no.
Does Daniel somehow survive andhelp her kill them all?
(31:36):
No, no, I don't know, I have noclue.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Your first idea was
correct.
Originally, grace was supposedto be killed by the LaDomas
family and, yeah, the originallygrace was supposed to be killed
by the lodomas family and theyeah, the reason they were, she
was supposed to be ritually,ritualistically sacrificed.
And the reason they wanted todo that was because it would
further epitomize the point thatthey were trying to make
through the movie that the eliteclass and their privilege is
extremely dangerous.
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But it was also extremelyoppressive to the working class
to the point where she foughtand fought and fought and fought
and still got lost reallynowhere.
Still lost, just like people dowhen they're fighting against
the rich elitist, and then theirgenerational wealth continues
on, even though there are somany people sort of fighting
against them, and theirtraditions continue as well.
So the original directorsthought that that was kind of
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the message that they wanted toportray.
But then they also thought tothemselves you know, people are
going to come to this movie andaudiences really don't want to
see, uh, this movie end with therich people being victorious.
So they they thought, you know,uh, they actually I've got,
I've got a quote here.
So it says uh, when they wroteit, uh, oplon, olpen sorry, but
nelly, oplon and gillette saidit was something that they knew
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that they needed to change andthey thought to themselves let's
try and have our cake and eatit too.
He said it's not real, as inthe curse isn't real and these
clowns completely fucked up andyou know.
Then we want to kill them all.
And the team came up with thisfake out ending and the
challenge was actually trying toprove the curse was real
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without extending the film tounnecessarily long length.
So they went through 20different drafts where and most
of them were way too long theysaid, and many of the versions
were picked, pitched, include,like similar final destinations
style sequences where the familymembers would die of eerie or
accidental circumstances.
Um, but they just said yeah,yeah, they said that in the end,
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the outlandishly spontaneouscombustion would work the best
because it was fast and it wasabsurd and it was kind of like a
moment like, oh my God, this isbatshit crazy and it was
probably the best idea that I'veever had and it was either
going to work or it wasn't.
And the fact that SamaraWeaving laughed during that
scene After the whole thing yeah, that was improvised by Samara
Weaving, because there's so manytakes where she was completely
shocked and scared by it andSamara was like can I just try
(33:49):
one where I laugh?
And I was like yes, do that.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, and that's the
one that stuck in when like,
yeah, she fought all this hard,they're all still alive.
She fought for all this time.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, and the
directors actually said, you
know, the reason they settled onthis ending was because
sometimes watching a pack ofrotten no good 1%ers get what's
coming to them is enough on itsown.
And you know, I feel like that'sa take that a lot of the
audience members agreed with,because it is quite well
received critically and theending is quite well received as
(34:23):
well.
But I wanted to see the richpeople win.
I don't know what that saysabout me, but I thought the
whole time that Samara Williamswas going to be ritualistically
sacrificed and the point thatthey were going to like the
narrative point that they weregoing to drive through, was that
privilege and entitlement arereally, really dangerous things,
and that was the message thatwas going to come in the end of
the movie.
But I think the comed elementand the fact that they wanted
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the people going to see thismovie, which is going to be the
working class, looking andseeing the rich elitists winning
, wouldn't be something thatthey would sit well in their
mouths with, especially duringthe time this was made, because
I think that that was when arich elitist was ascending the
presidency ranks to become partof the governing body.
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So I think that they made thebest call for the audience, but
for me, I think I would haveliked it better if it had a
darker ending.
But that's just really me.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I would have loved if
they had an ending when the
cops are all running around thehouse and the one comes up to
the mirror and is like are youokay, brother?
You hear in the background andI love the lease as one still
alive.
Oh, that would have been cooland it was by.
And it was by boy, adam Brodythat would have been sick.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I would love for him
to come back in the sequel, but
yeah, I think.
Oh man, the reason I like AdamBrody is because he's like he's
sarcastic.
So well, he does, he so doeshe's so he's cynical.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So well, even him in
OC.
He's single in OC.
He's sarcasm in that.
It was great.
I would love that because hetried to.
Maybe it was the fact that healready died, like sort of he
maybe died at one point, thecurse didn't get him, sort of
like how it is in FinalDestination 3 or what it is,
when she dies and the personbrings her back to life and she
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escapes the death curse, sort ofthing.
Or just because maybe there was, like you know what, adam
bray's a good guy yeah, I thinkthey used his character because
he kind of represent they all.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Every single
character in this movie
represents an element of theelitist class or the the richest
sort of class, and they, theysatirize them and make a whole
character about one element thatuh represents that that sort of
class system.
Like daniel was the morallyconflicted enabler, like he was
aware that his family was evilbut there was nothing he could
(36:35):
do about it.
So he just got drunk all thetime and he resisted until the
end and he ends up submitting tothat ridiculousness of his
family's elite status because heturns grace into the Lodomas
family and gets herritualistically sacrificed.
But he also has a change ofheart.
So he's got this complexrelationship that's marred with
(36:56):
tragedy and conscience.
And that's what he's sort ofrepresenting is that morally
conflicted part where there'sthe people in the family of
these traditionalists thatreally know what they're doing
is wrong but they can't breakfree of it because their
lifestyle that they have is, youknow, it's very enticing.
So that's that's what hischaracter sort of represented in
that and I like that about him.
And for me I do like adam brody, but I still feel like he was
(37:19):
irredeemable oh yeah, no, I'mjust like it's only a fan.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well, you don't even
be like a fanfic, sort of like.
A yeah thing for me is that I'mready to be alive again.
That would have been.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
That would have been
a good little chill for the for
the horror genre, though.
If a cop in the end was justlike there's someone still alive
and even leaving it as like wedon't know which one it is, that
would have been cool and thenyeah, and then he hears that,
and so the cigarette drops outof her mouth or something.
Yeah, yeah, one thing I likedabout the cigarette stuff as
well was at the start of themovie.
(37:48):
You know how she's smoking inher room before she's married.
And then you know she'sconfronted by the mother, becky
Ledomus, and she says, do yousmoke?
And she's like, oh, no, no, noand um to fit in.
And then as soon as they're allgone again she lights up that
cigarette and she's like, okay,beat myself again.
It's like the oppression oflike a, like trying to fit in
(38:11):
with an in-law family.
Anyway, your last question.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I digress, I do.
Okay, the exterior shots of themansion that was filmed in is a
park with Estates in Oshawa,ontario, canada.
It was the same estate grant asanother famous movie.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Mansion.
I know this one, yes.
Well, I know that it was usedfor the X-Men movie, I know that
it was used for Chicago and Iknow that it was also used for
the Beauty and the Beast liveaction movie.
That's none of the ones.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
What one do you have?
The same one used for BillyMadison.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Ah, I'd like to thank
you, veronica for beating the
shit out of me Great movie.
Well, I wasn't wrong, but Ijust didn't know.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You weren't wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, no, I've got
that one.
They actually had a lot oftrouble shooting on there
because it was heritage listed.
So the cinematographer, brettDukowitz, had to adapt lighting
schemes on the fly to preservethe eerie ambience but also to
present that sort of naturallight at the very start when the
wedding was happening.
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But I thought that that gothicmansion was so good and that was
so intricate maze bonusquestion, though only one part,
only one part of this wholeentire movie.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
That was the set
created.
Did you know what set?
It was the goat pit.
The only set that they made wasthe goat pit.
Everything else was shot in themansion.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I would absolutely
hate if that was actually a real
thing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
No, I mean, it's not
like a pit that was like there.
It was like they had to build apit.
Yeah, that's not just like astorm cellar or a fucking
retrofitted wine cellar orsomething like that.
No, it's just a fucking setthat they built.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I thought was
interesting.
Yeah, I think that theintricacies of that mansion just
played into the Lodomasfamily's estate too, because it
was obviously owned by a familythat had so many secrets and all
of the hallways you got lost init.
You never saw a repeat hallway,you were always turned around,
and there was those back alleysas well that Alex and Brace sort
of went through to escape them.
Yeah, I think that that was aperfect location for that movie.
(40:27):
Did I get that point, or not?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, yeah, because
you gained more moves than I
originally had.
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
All right.
So that means for this segmentout of six, I think we got four.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
That brings our total
to nine points, which means
that we have quick maths 16 leftto go before we can send
somebody off to the movies.
This segment is called FuckingRich People.
No, it's called Set Secrets.
This is where we look behindthe scenes of the focused movie
to give you all the informationon what went right, what went
(41:01):
wrong and what was interestingabout the way that the movie was
made Brash in this segment.
Here I want to talk about thesatire of this movie, the class
warfare and the privilege,especially the eat the rich
trope.
So have you heard of the eatthe rich trope before?
I, no, I don't think I have.
So it originates from a Frenchphilosopher, jean-jacques
(41:22):
Rousseau, and it was basicallyhis way of critiquing excess
exploitation and the moralbankruptcy of the wealthy elite,
and it has a few differentparts to it.
Basically, they're movies thatshow the richer class exploiting
others for their own gain,hiding behind traditions or
elitism, and eventually they'reoverthrown or exposed in some
(41:45):
sort of way and they're punished, and they're also out of touch.
They're fragile and they can bemonstrous beneath the visage of
propriety, which is this moviethrough and through, other
movies that show this trope isParasite, made in 2019, the Menu
(42:06):
from 2020, and the Knives Outfranchise as well Also good
movie.
Yeah, yeah, very famous, eat therich themed tropes.
So when they're sort of cloakedin their tradition, the
ritualistic murders throughoutthis and the lethal deal with
the demonic entity is a perfectmetaphor for how the real world
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wealth is often accumulatedthrough exploitation and morally
dubious means.
So they often say through themovie this is something we have
to do or we'll die.
And that's literally thefamily's logic and it's
satirized throughout.
And it's also really funny atthe end when there's that small
moment where they're like weactually did this for nothing,
(42:49):
because nothing is happening tous and it's dawn and that's just
that, like they, they believeit so much that that's the way
things are, that they'reliterally these elitist people
going to kill innocence becauseof it.
And I also liked it how, withinthis movie, the hypocrisy of
this wealthy class sort of bredinto the madness of these
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characters as well.
So they were incompetently richthroughout as well.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, like you look
at them and like, yeah, the dad
boy has some business sense, butthen you look at the rest of
them and you sort of like thisand I think that's the reason
why this is why I think Danieland that were like half were
made to pick those spousesbecause they sort of had the
more business sense and the morego get them than the actual
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children themselves.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, I feel like he
probably picked charity, Like
Daniel probably picked charitybecause his family would have
approved.
And Daniel obviously he saysthrough the movie that he's the
fuck up of the family he wouldhave been trying to do anything
he can to try and impress hisfamily or trying to gain their
acceptance and getting a wifethat fit their family mould.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
He probably would
have thought you know, this is
getting a point in that space,take attention off of him so
like he can just do whatever thehell he wants, because he's got
someone that they approve ofand they, like that, can do all
the family shit and he can justsort of step aside and just try
and drink all the memories andeverything from my base family
(44:17):
away yeah, in the um, the eatthe rich trope as well.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
It it shows how the
powerful and the rich elites are
protected by their system.
And if you notice through themovie who are the first people
to die, yeah, the help throughthis.
And who are the people that aredoing most of the dirty work.
The main butler yeah, he goesout to try and find Grace when
she's running through the forestand drag her back in the car.
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And what are all the Lodomasfamily doing?
Standing around the table,standing around the table,
looking at the phone.
And what are all the Lodomasfamily doing Standing around the
table, standing around thetable, looking at the phone?
Yeah, drinking.
So they're literally doingnothing.
And it's that hypocrisy andthat system that is literally
protecting them.
And that's really important forthe eat the rich trope.
You know, the maids areaccidentally killed by crossbows
, like they're pulling thesetraditions out and saying this
(45:03):
is something we must do.
We've made these deals with thedevil, but they can't operate
the weapons every time they killum one of the bears like does
this count?
no, the help don't count.
And even that line is like thehelp don't count, that's their,
that's their opinion on thepeople, that sort of help them
throughout the house and of thelower class as well.
But yeah, I also love the linewhenever one of them's killed.
(45:25):
It's just like ah, she was myfavourite yeah, uh, poor help.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
And then the other,
poor other mate who's in the
down my road.
She's like, um, she's like, I'mnot even my mate.
Here's the.
Tony just likes the way I dancethe way I dance, like god damn
it.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, I god damn it
yeah, I think that the the
ending for me, even though itwas a shock.
When I saw it I was like wow,that was abrupt.
But I think the best part aboutthe fact that they all exploded
especially in this eat the richtrope as well, was in the end
it showed that for the firsttime in all of their lives, that
these rich, entitled peoplewere completely powerless.
(46:09):
Their wealth couldn't save them, their help couldn't save them,
their system couldn't save themanymore.
They were literally sopowerless and it was so sudden
and so abrupt that they couldn'thide from it.
And Alex goes and tries toapologize to Grace and they try
to run away.
And, yeah, some of them try torun away and then they explode
as they're running out the doorand Alex begs for forgiveness
(46:33):
but literally nothing can escapethem from their fate and it's
almost like Grace covered inblood and ash.
She doesn't just survive this.
In the end she watches theirentire house burn down.
Her wedding dress is inshambles.
It's a symbol of her rejectingthat institution of marriage and
the transactional merger intothe elite society that she's
(46:54):
sort of with Alex in for.
And then you know that lastline.
You know, in-laws, why she'ssmoking a cigarette.
It's just that last sort of doton the trope of the eat the
rich.
I've gained a liking for movieslike these and especially the
like.
That's the main one, like theeat the rich trope, but the
other one that's prominentthroughout this is the deadly
game, one which we sort oftalked about a little bit, and
(47:16):
it's very common through horrormovies, very common in like the
Saw franchise and the menu, andit basically depicts where
there's this narrative, where acharacter or a group of
characters is forced toparticipate in a game or a
challenge, often under duress,or where the stakes are life and
death basically, and they haveto do this or they will die.
(47:40):
And it's frequently used inhorror thrillers, dystopian
future sort of movies and thingslike that.
It's even used in the HungerGames, like the teenagers are
set in that arena and theyactually have to compete for
survival.
And that's the same thing thatwe were talking about for with
the deadliest game made in 1932,that piece of literature that
everything sort of spawned fromand Ready or Not definitely does
(48:01):
that as well where Grace,unknowingly so.
There's that deceit there.
She didn't do it under duress,she did it under deceit, so she
was tricked into marrying Alexand he's probably the biggest
asshole character for me,because he was so selfish in
marrying her, like he didn'teven tell her what she was
marrying into.
For one, he's like thatperformative morality.
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He's only good when he's beingwatched, or he has to, because
as soon as he found out that shewould not stay with him after
this sort of started, he didn'twant to save her or protect her
anymore because her use to himwas over and that, like he, he's
my most hated character in thisand like, yeah, like
flip-flopping like a flipperfish and and yeah, at first he's
(48:44):
like you put me in thissituation to begin with.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
We mean you'll help
me get out of here.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
You all want to
brought me.
Yeah, he promised too.
He was just like I promise I'llhelp you get out of this.
And then there's a lot ofthings online that say he turned
because she murdered his mother.
And I don't know if I thinkthat's true, because I feel like
he.
I think that.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Not so much that, but
like it was like the final nail
in the coffin of her being meand you done.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yes, I think so too.
I think that was the thing.
And then he's like well, fuck,I've got nothing left now.
Yeah that he did, to realize shedid that and he realized that
there was no way that he wouldhave a relationship with her,
not because of what she did, butbecause of what has happened to
Grace.
Yeah, she wouldn't be able topsychologically get over it and
(49:41):
look at him and be with him inany kind of fashion after this.
So he thought, well, you knowwhat, I'll go back to my family,
which is another trope of thoserich sort of traditions.
They pull people back in aswell, which is what happened to
Alex.
But yeah, the deadliest gamesort of trope, it always
involves involuntaryparticipation, which is what
happened with Grace.
There's structured rules andrituals, which is explained by
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Tony at the start during thedinner scene.
I liked his monologue too.
I thought that that story wasgood, had me hooked in there.
There's a power imbalance aswell.
So in this particular incidencein Ready or Not, the power
imbalance was the fact thatthere was like six or seven
family members versus the onewho was hiding and they're at a
severe disadvantage because theyhad weapons and she did not
have any weapons until shestarted finding the guns, even
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though they were useless atusing the guns, and there's like
moral, psychological stakes atplay.
So there's allies that betrayand they compromise who they are
in order to play in this game.
And you know a very commonmovie throughout these with this
theme the deadly game trope isthe Saw movies and where they
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play violent moral puzzles aswell throughout this.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
So yeah, I do.
I do like the um when you'resaying how like they had like
the advantage, even though theywere reused with weapons, and
like I love the fact that likeum charity, when she has that
big ass um crossbow and she aimsat ender grace and flies it and
just goes left field and hits abird and then, oh, she has the
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machine gun to it at one point,doesn't she?
or the rifle, yeah, and she justyeah whiffs it every time yeah,
with Fitch Fitch, like he's onthe toilet trying to read, like
how to use a crossbow getting toknow your crossbow and then the
poor, poor Miel is just uselesswith every weapon she touches
and she ends up like except forthat one, dancer maid, she kills
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the rest of the mage herselfAccidentally yeah, accidentally.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, she's actually.
We talked about what thesecharacters embody.
She's kind of the.
We've been talking about howthey're incompetent, but she's
actually the one that embodiesthat the most because she's also
impulsive.
She's addicted to thatvalidation.
She always wants everybody tolike.
When she killed the mage, she'slike I got her, I got her, she
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everybody to know.
She's reckless and you know shebelieves in this ritual as well
and her scenes kind of mock howstatus doesn't equate to skill,
especially when it's handeddown through like,
generationally, and not throughmerit.
So her character representsthat wholly and solely, and also
the vices that come with.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
They all have a vice.
She's obviously on the cocaine.
The daddy's girl character islike I'm just a fuck up and then
goes to the dad and dad likehugs and says no, you're not,
sweetie, You're, you're the best.
And she's the coddled childthat can do no wrong, even
though she does a lot of thingswrong.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, daniel's vice
is alcohol, hers is, um, like
cocaine.
And then Alex is like the lureand seduction of power, which is
exactly the same as Charity,which is weird.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
that Daniel married
her, yeah, but yeah, I'll tell
you, Charity's like thatruthless, cutthroat business
savvy.
And Christian Broden is thatsort of a kiss ass, sort of
doing anything, sort of ahenchman part of the family who
will do anything for the family.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
He's a social climber
.
He's in that regard and, yeah,he's illustrating his disconnect
and comic ineptitude by tryingto watch a YouTube video moments
before he's going to use thisto kill somebody, like it's just
completely.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, he does want to
be.
He doesn't want to fuck up.
He wants to prove that he canbe part of this family.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Blah, blah, blah yeah
, that he deserves the wealth
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
And then Aunt Helen
is just like the, she's the
traditionalist man she's likeshe's like the big.
The big, how they say the richis like a cult.
She is like the forefront ofthat cult of rich.
She's zealously committed, yeah100%.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
She's zealously
committed to this tradition.
She's lost something before.
She lost her husband last timethey played hide and seek, and
she reflects how this trauma canbe twisted into justifying and
perpetrating this violence.
So it happened to me.
Therefore, it has to happen toyou.
If the tradition had to happento me and I had to lose the love
of my life, it has to happen toAlex too.
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That's not fair.
If it doesn't, that's hercharacter.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
And in McDowell's
Becky she's like sort of a
two-faced character.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, exactly.
On one hand, she's trying to beall nice and polite and then on
the other hand, she looks athow the rich people will be nice
to your face, but then, behindclosed doors, they're all about
themselves.
It's that civility that'smasking as cruelty.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, it tries to be
nice to her, but then goes back
and tells everyone oh, we've gotto stop fucking her, we've got
to kill her, we've got to findher and kill her.
Stop messing around, stopfucking her.
She's like the one who's like,oh guys, we've got to do this,
for, like, we gotta keep ourfamily safe, we're gonna do this
for our family.
She's like the the keeping itin the family, sort of
orientated like making sure thatnothing bad happens to their
rich family and they stay rich,they stay powerful.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I thought her death
at the hands of Grace was pretty
symbolic, especially with thebox.
Yeah, especially with that box,because that's that's the the
crux of their wealth.
And she used it to kill Beckyand, yeah, it kind of signifies
the downfall of that elitism,especially when it's built on
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blood and it ends in blood inthe way that Grace sort of ends
Becky.
But she's the only familymember that Grace actually kills
.
The others are accidental orthrough a varying set of
circumstances.
Like you could argue that thatmaid was kind of her fault
because she turned thedumbwaiter on.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
but Well, she didn't
turn on, the maid did.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Oh, I was there just
trying to get away.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
She's like they're
not going for you, they're going
for me, let me in.
She's like it's over here, andthen the maid tries to hit the
button to like leave, to leaveher there.
And then, because she's got thedoor open, she's like tells us
to get out, so close the door,and then gets caught and dies
and I think that tony the, the,the father figure, he's just
blind devotion to wealth.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
He's, he's steeped in
tradition, he's that male
authority figure.
His father did it, his, hisgreat-grandfather did it, yeah,
and he clings to that rituallike legacy, with this religious
like he's also the flippant.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
So like how he, how
he wants to change some of the,
some of the rules, the thingslike he wants to keep the
weapons, but he got rid, end upgetting rid of the mask that his
father brought into it.
And um, how they're like oh, wecan use the camera.
Like we can't use the cameras.
And then he's like we can usethe cameras.
And then he's like, oh, we canuse the cameras.
And the sister's like, no, wecan't.
Tradition.
And he's like If he had cameras, if our great-grandfather had
cameras, he would have used themin the spirit of the game.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, I think he's
definitely steeped in that
tradition, but he will also andthat's another- thing, that is,
that they will manipulatetradition to get what they want.
Yeah, and that's in this movieand also in real life.
So I think that each of thesecharacters are really cleverly
sort of constructed as anelement of satire of that sort
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of class system.
And putting Grace in there andnaming her Grace especially is
really powerful because she'sjust a working class broad
that's bringing down theirentire dominion.
As, yeah, I thought it wasreally creatively done and
that's that was kind of like thehook for me in this horror
movie, because you know, horrormovie for a horror movie sake I
can't really watch.
But this had enough of that sortof underscored subtext that I
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was like this is actually prettyinteresting to to get through.
So I really liked the fact thatyou know there was, there was
there was those two tropes atwork the deadly game trope and
also the eat the rich trope.
But yeah, it was just reallygood to analyze these characters
and when we've talked before,when there's an ensemble cast,
it's kind of hard for any ofthem to shine.
But I think because they allrepresented one aspect, uh, that
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the directors and filmmakerswere were trying to portray, it
kind of worked.
So I think it did well.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
I was actually just
looking because how you were
saying about names.
Yeah yeah, so all there, alllike the family names are all
pretty like Alex, tony, emil,emil, emily Is it Emily yeah?
Speaker 1 (57:55):
Emily.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Becky, oh yeah.
So Alex Becky, Emily, helen,becky, um, oh yeah so Alex Becky
, Emily, helen, like they're allsort of normal names.
But then you got like thepeople married again Charity,
brace, and then.
So I looked up Fitch, trying tosee if, like Fitch had any sort
of like other meanings andactually has a, a couple, and
it's like um, so there's onething the old French word for
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Fitch for an iron-pointedinstrument, usually like
crossbow bolts, spears,old-fashioned weapons, which is
the only thing they're allowedto use in this game is all the
old-fashioned weapons.
But also it is also Fitch forthe fur or pelt, and like a lot
of rich people wear like all thefurs and stuff like that.
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Or it used to be also apredatory mammal similar to a
ferret, oh yeah so yeah, aferret's like a rodent too, so
he's like weaseling his way upthe special order there too so,
um, I was like I thought about,oh, look at it, because like,
yeah, charity, and she's almostlike the opposite of charity,
charity, and then grace comes in, she's's her own saving grace,
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really, and I'm like I wonder ifFitch means anything.
And they're like, yeah, things,that sort of.
I wouldn't say that probablydoesn't really correlate to the
movie, but it's just interestingthat like, yeah, some names for
some pointy iron, old-fashionedweapons, which is what they
would have used, which they sortof used like old-fashioned
weapons, which is what theywould have used, which they sort
of used like old-fashionedcrossbows and whatnot, and
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old-school guns and everything,but also the name of what rich
people would wear those furcoats and the fur deck warmers
were there and even predatoryferrets.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
Yeah, let's get into
our most valuable takeaway.
Alright, this is the Heart andSoul of the Podcast, where we
break down the one thing thathit the hardest, stuck the
longest or taught us somethingnew from what we just watched.
It is our moment to spotlightthe takeaway that made us think,
feel or see things differently.
This is what we learned fromReady or Not from 2019.
There's a lot of things Ilearned from this movie Brash.
(01:00:06):
A lot of things that I learnedin terms of horror movie tropes
and the various differentsubtexts, but the biggest thing
that I learned as a life lessonfor this was to hell with
fitting in Rejecting that toxicacceptance that Grace was trying
to get.
It's darkly funny and it's anallegory, but it's like what
happens when you try too hard tobelong in a place that was
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never really meant for you.
That's kind of what I got out ofit, because Samara Weaving
Grace she tries so hard to be apart of this family, to be
accepted by a new husband, thewealthy, eccentric family and
she knows at the start she saysthey're only moderately fucked
(01:00:46):
up, but I think really she knowsthat they've kind of got their
issues as well and she's kind,but she's awkwardly charming and
she's genuinely eager toconnect with them and even to
face obvious discomfort.
You know, going through thisgame like if it was just a
normal game, it'd be somethingthat was kind of whimsical, but
she wanted to go through thatkind of thing because she'd
never experienced a familybefore.
But there's that relatableemotional truth where there's
that quiet anxiety that shefeels about trying to fit into a
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new social structure.
I think we've all been there,like everybody's been in that
situation before, where you'retrying to fit into a social
structure or a school setting ora new friend group and
sometimes you find yourselfdoing things that you wouldn't
normally do, or sometimes youfind yourself not always, but
sometimes you'll find yourselfbetraying some of the things
that make you who you are.
And that's why I found thesmoking a little bit sort of
(01:01:29):
funny, because she would smokein front of Alex and be her true
self there as a representationof her true self, but then
around the mom and the familyshe wouldn't.
And then right at the end, whenthey're all dead, she smoked
again.
And it's like these the family,she wouldn't.
And then right at the end, whenthey're all dead, she smoked
again.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
And it's like these
rules are unspoken and you're
trying to fit in with them, butit kind of falls into that
people-pleasing category as asurvival strategy.
Yeah, like um and with thatwhole, as you're saying, like
the high school mentality oflike there's the cool kids
trying to film with the coolkids, um, like Fitch, he's like,
he's like the, the kid that wasuncool, that has managed to
find his way into the cool kidsclub and will do anything to
stay in the cool kids club yep,and he is doing that people
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pleasing thing like he'sobviously not a killer, like he
points the crossbow in the wrongdirection.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
he has a nervous
tummy, as he said, and he goes
and he tries to learn how to touse it to fit in, like he's
doing something that heobviously doesn't want to do.
Converse to that is Charity,who's like all about it, and I
love that scene with.
That was probably my favoritescene, when Daniel talks to
Charity and he says do youremember what you said when I
told you about all of this?
Like you didn't even blink, andthat was when he kind of
realized that maybe she is notthe person that he thought she
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was.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, charity she was
.
Yeah, Charity, yeah, becauseCharity is sort of like Samara's
character, grace.
If Grace had of been more power.
Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
So Grace and Charity
are sort of two sides of the
same coin.
So if anything had beenslightly different difference
the mirror might have wantedinto the family more and she
could have ended up a lot likecharity, but she stayed true to
herself and was rejected.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
The rejected them and
sort of stayed true to herself
yeah, and I think that's that'simportant too, because a lot of
the time people going throughthat people pleasing sort of
mentality, like like grace wasand like people do in real life
sometimes they think you know,if I'm good enough, then they'll
see that I belong when.
Sometimes you're trying to fitinto a situation where A they
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don't want you to belong in thefirst place, which is
heartbreaking sometimes whenit's talking about a real-life
situation and obviously thissituation too but also it's kind
of like realizing that youdon't truly want to belong there
.
You just want a connection likethat.
That place isn't the place foryou to belong.
You just really want aconnection with somebody.
And finding that connectionwith reliable and trustworthy
(01:03:54):
sources is the key, not justputting yourself out there to
people, to who don't really seeyou for who you are, which is
what happened with Grace.
And she starts to fight backagainst that and it's produced
through her wedding dress as shestarts to become torn and
bloodied and stuff and shestarts to rip off her shoes and
she starts to use weapons andfight.
That's her fighting to surviveand she's sort of stopping being
(01:04:19):
liked at that point.
She doesn't want to be liked,she just wants to survive.
At that point she starts tofight back and you know, I think
her asserting her right toexist on her own terms is where
she moves through her transition.
But in a real life sort ofsituation, when you're looking
at those people-pleasing sort ofbehaviors, it's about asserting
who you are and knowing yourrights as a person who deserves
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acceptance for who you are.
Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
That's yeah, there's
one thing we haven't really
talked about or touched on thatI thought was really interesting
was the children.
Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, bro,
they were indoctrinated hey.
Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah, and how.
When, after Ser to clock thatkid which I think was one of my
favorite parts of the movie, Imean I'll be angry too if it's a
kid shot me in the hand, yeah,afterwards.
But the mom picks up and sayswhat happened.
She's like oh, I shot her.
And she's like I'm so proud ofyou.
I'm like, dude, the kid's likenine the hell, what kind of
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mother are you?
And they're fully like and theymust have been told prior about
the history and what happensand stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
The line that hit me
the hardest in that very scene
there was when somebody said,like the kid was explaining what
was happening, and they said,oh, why would you?
I think it was Daniel, he saidwhy would?
You shoot her.
Why would you do that?
And then he said because that'swhat all of you wanted to do.
So it just shows that you knowkids are a product of their
environment in that way, likeyou see them like you do.
(01:05:55):
Yeah, exactly, and in this sortof like most valuable takeaway
that we're talking about, whenwe're talking about, you know,
trying to fit in and to hellwith fitting in.
Kids really don't have a choicein that kind of matter and
that's what makes it hard,especially when they're
mirroring or trying to fit inwith adult behaviors or
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environments that are reallytoxic or unhealthy.
So they're really just victimsin that sort of regard.
Perpetuates, in this instance,the Lodomus family tradition is
because they get them whenthey're so young and they fit
them in when they're so youngand it's literally all they hear
and all they witness and all oftheir environment is surrounded
by that.
So it's just so tricky for them.
But the thing, the good thingabout Grace is that she totally
rejected that, like the toxicsystem and the demand for her
(01:06:36):
submission was she was.
She was not about that at all.
She doesn't save them.
She doesn't forgive her husband.
She, she walks out about thatat all.
She doesn't save them.
She doesn't forgive her husband.
She walks out, literally walksout of a burning mansion, blood
covered, cigarette in hand.
It's like she's reborn.
She's walking out of this and,you know, the firefighter asks
her like what happened?
And she just goes in-laws,that's just.
That's her like acceptanceno-transcript of being a real
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people pleaser and reallywanting to fit into a particular
family because all her lifeshe's just bounced from family
to family and she wanted a unit.
But in the end she learns aboutthe cost of her self-worth and
how it's not worth her givingeverything up to fit into a
space, and I think that's morecharacter development than some
characters go through in a lotof movies.
So I thought that was good anddefinitely one of our best roles
(01:07:45):
, I reckon.
Yeah, 100%.
Are you ready to rate it?
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Okay, all right.
So story and script I gave thishalf a star.
I gave this half a star and thereason I did that was because I
feel like the satire is cleverand fun, but the whole premise
kind of runs thin, like it's anhour and a half movie and it
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runs on a single premise and themythology for me, as we talked
about at the start, was a littlebit undercooked.
So I think just story wise whenwe're talking about the premise
of the story and the script, Ifeel like.
But the start was a little bitundercooked.
So I think just story-wise whenwe're talking about the premise
of the story and the script.
Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I feel like half a
star is what I would award it.
What about?
Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
you I 100% agree.
Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Half a star for me as
well, and the premise for the
same thing.
It felt like it went througheverything too quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
And I think that has
to do with the runtime, you know
, an hour and a half andprobably the fact that they
thought it was only a one-time,one-time deal.
Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yep, yeah, I agree.
All right characters andperformances.
I gave this a full star notonly because zamara weaving is
completely magnetic in this andshe, uh, evokes that fear
response so gutturally in theway that she screams and the way
she acts under pressure, underthe way she sort of handles
herself, but I also thought thatthe supporting cast committed
fully, like especially AdamBrody we said that he plays
(01:09:45):
sarcastic so well the lady thatplayed Charity, elise Levesque.
Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
She's also from the
Orville.
She's in the Orville.
Oh yeah, she is too.
She plays Wenda in the Orville.
Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Yeah yeah, she plays
sadistic and cruel so well in
that movie as well.
They have very little screentime as an ensemble cast but
they do enough to really portraythe things that they need to
portray.
So the performances for me, Igave them a full star.
And for the character arc thatGrace goes through that we
talked about in the MVT section,where she goes from that
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hopeless sort of people, peoplepleaser, wanting to fit into a
family, any family but thenfinding herself worth at the
very end through struggle, Ithink that is like for 90
minutes.
I think that's great.
So full star for me.
Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Yep, I am exactly the
same full star because of Adam
Brody, no, or Adam Brody as anentire star.
I loved each and every one oftheir characters, as we've
talked extensively on how eachof them are different in certain
ways and all bring their ownsense like own comedy sort of
goals to their characters, with,of course, adam Brody's Daniel
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character being really sarcasticand cynical.
But even like Melanie,melanie's Emily who's sort of
that, that day's girl whoaccidentally kills all the maids
, it's her Fitch's just she's,he's almost, it's almost
endearing and charming, suck upit's almost cute, isn't it?
(01:11:15):
it's almost cute that he'strying so hard yeah, I think
that for for a movie that didn'tcost a lot like they probably
wouldn't have paid a lot to dothis, they just I reckon they
all put in such a great effort.
Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Yeah, I think so too.
All right direction and toneFor me.
I gave this another full starbecause it strikes the perfect
balance between horror andcomedy, and that's kind of hard
to do Originally it's hard toblend themes as it is, but they
also underlaid a layer of satirein there too, which was great,
and I just loved the like, theshots that they used and the
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various different sort of cameraangles that they used to
portray like the fearful look onsamara weaving's face a lot of
the time through the through themovie and then and then also
the shaky sort of cameraoperators when they were using
the chase sequences as well, wasreally put you in the moment.
So I gave it a full star aswell.
Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Yeah, I also give it
a full star because, in the same
vein of like because this camejust after Get Out and at the
same time as like Us, and so itwas like between 2017 and sort
of 2022-ish, these sort ofmovies about sort of these
satire sort of movies and thecomic movies sort of had another
(01:12:28):
bit of a rise from, like youroriginal satire movies, like
your scary movie and your dancemovie and your superhero movie,
like all those where they justsort of make fun of.
Yeah, those are real genres,tongue-in-cheek yeah and they
take, make fun of other genres,these sort of satire versions of
these horror movies where it's,um, still blood and gore, but,
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like, because for me, like Idon't really consider them
horror in the sense of, uh, I'mgonna sit there and going to
jump out at me and scare thecrap out of me, but it's just
more of like your, it takes abit of it, sort of makes fun of
it a little bit more, yeah, thanyou, because you get those sort
of horror movies that arecomedy, a bit of comedy in them
(01:13:11):
as well, but it's a lot darker,whereas this one's, I think it's
a lot more lighter in a way,and it's the same with like Nope
and Get Out and Us.
They're probably a little bitmore darker than what this is,
but it's still a fun andenjoyable ride nonetheless
Alright.
Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
So full star for you,
duh.
Very good, alright visuals andsound.
Now, I think this movie used areally good mixture of CGI and
practical effects.
For all the blood work, Ithought that that was done
really really well.
For me it wasn't really overthe top that's coming from a guy
that doesn't really do horrorbut I still thought it was
pretty okay.
The thing for me was that thevisuals really enhanced the
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tension but also the absurdityof this movie, which was a
tricky sort of balance.
But the biggest thing for mewas the soundtrack, the use of
both diegetic and non-diegeticsound.
The soundtrack immerseded me inthe tense moments, but that
song, run, run run yeah, runaway and hide.
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Let's just say that, like everynow and then, my son will ask me
to play hide and seek, but now,whenever he does that, I sing
that song and I actually drovemy partner Kalia up the wall
because it was an earworm for me.
I put it on the thread, I waslike I couldn't get it out of my
head.
I literally couldn't get it outof my head.
I was singing it in the showerto the point where she actually
had to sit me down quietly andbe like Aaron enough, Because I
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was just so catchy and it kindof reminded me of the same kind
of aspect as, like the Bioshockgames, where they have those
really old time and even Fallout, those really old timey songs
in a really obscure kind ofsetting where it doesn't belong
and it just fits so well.
And yeah, I just thought thatwas perfect.
You know, the 100 second songused to count down and yeah, I
hope they use something similarin the next movie or even the
same song, because yeah, I lovedthey use something similar in
the next movie or even the samesong because, yeah, I, I loved
it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
I gave it a star.
It reminds me of JeepersCreepers, yeah, yeah, like
that's the song that plays onthe radio before Jeepers
Creepers comes in.
Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
know the great horror movie, um,
but yeah I.
I star yeah, I was gettingmine's hype.
I do enjoy it all.
And then again that song at theend on the record of the old
song, when they all startexploding great, absolutely
fantastic.
But um, I had to give it a halfstar, I think, for me, because
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it's for me like coming off ofjust watching bloodlines by
destination, like the grotesquemurder, like killings and that
are just next level next level,whereas this one, like with the
dumbwaiter, a similar sort ofthing happens in Final Station
not with the dumbwaiter, but asimilar sort of thing happens
and I looked at that one and Iwas like, eh, not as gruesome as
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I thought it could be, but Imean like it's a bit more fun,
like when they get shot in themouth because they're crossbow
bolt.
And every time that theyadvertise this talk you hear a
guy go like Austin Powers it was.
Yeah, it was just absolutelyhilarious.
Until she like finally hasenough and gets the axe and just
chops her.
Yeah, for me it's.
And like when she gets theblood, it, and like when she
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gets Spice of the Blood, likeit's like, ah, look at that corn
syrup, it was good.
But like I've watched enoughhorror movies, yeah, and it's
sort of like it was good, butlike you can, you've seen better
.
Yeah, it just didn't fight me athing.
But yes, no, I'll do that songthough Spotify.
Now it's like at the top of mynew like list of my Spotify.
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So every time I jump in the carand I'm wanting to drive to
work, it's the first song thatplays.
Oh, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Especially good to go
to work, alright.
So that's half a star for you.
Half a star, lovely, alright.
And lastly, it is Impact andLegacy, or, as we like to call
it, your overall enjoyment.
Now, I enjoyed the heck out ofit.
See, this is the one that Istruggled with the most, because
I really, really enjoyed it.
It was memorable, it was bold,it was buzzworthy for the time.
I don't know if it's timeless,whether it's like a cult classic
(01:17:06):
.
I would probably re-watch it.
I already watched it twice, soit definitely has
re-watchability.
I just think for me, as I saidbefore in the pod, the ending.
I would have loved for it tojust really drive home that
social commentary point, asopposed to letting the working
class kind of win and I knowthat sounds like a little bit.
I like to see that sort ofthing in movies because it's a
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social commentary and it'sprovocative.
So I don't know if I can givethis a full star or half a star.
I'm struggling with it, brash.
Tell me yours first and thenI'll decide.
Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
So I give it a half
star for overall enjoyment
because I do find it overlyenjoyable.
I've watched it.
I watched it when it came outyears ago and re-watching it now
, I sort of found myself becauseI was playing video games at
the same time.
I was like I've got to watchthis movie again.
So I remember it playing videohousing at the same time.
That's what I'm like.
I'll just watch this movieagain.
So I remember it and I foundmyself like skipping over a few
(01:18:02):
parts but I'm like, oh yeah, Iknow what happened here, just
get through a bit quicker.
And um, but then I did.
I still did end up findingmyself watching majority of it
because it is enjoyable to watch.
But and like the cast I thinkthe cast for me is what made it
the best.
The yeah, all the like runningaround sort of thing wasn't as
(01:18:23):
great but like all theinteractions, especially like
Adam Brody's interactions withall the rest of the family
members, was always really goodto watch To me, like it's a good
watch if a friend hasn't seenit.
And they're like, oh, is therea funny sort of scary, like
horror movie or like gory moviethat I could watch, I'd be like,
yeah, you should watch this.
Yeah, it's something I suggestor watch with a friend who
(01:18:43):
hasn't seen it.
But I wouldn't go out of my wayIf someone's like oh, pick a
movie you want to watch.
It's probably not one that I'dpick.
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Yeah, fair enough.
So half a star for you.
I think I'll give it half astar as well because, yeah, it
does have that rewatch abilityfor me.
But yeah, I think I would haveliked to see the social
commentary driven home.
The ending was a little bit tooabrupt for me and, yeah, I just
think there was a lot of goodpoints about it.
But again, I also think thatthe uh, like the undercooked
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mythology and the plot, the thinplot, it would probably get
very tiresome if it was on yourregular rewatch sort of schedule
.
So other stuff for me too,which means that I have scored
it a total of four stars and youhave given it a total of 3.5
stars, which means it has anaverage of 3.75.
At 3.75, we have Spider-Man, noWay Home, fantastic Four and
(01:19:34):
Ready or Not.
Actually, I'd almost put itabove them.
I kind of would too.
Yeah.
I'd sit it above them whichmeans it's in our top 10.
Yeah, all right.
So Ready or Not sits in our top10.
At ninth on the Phantom Portalson a board it sits below Big
Fish and above Spider-Man no WayHome at 3.75.
So that is Ready or Not from2019.
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Let's do our sign-off.
All right, everybody.
I sign off.
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we are kicking back off.
On our portal is pick episode,and from our list we have
randomly picked from the wheelof movie suggestions given to us
by our community, and the onethat came up was Ben Affleck's
Jersey Girl by Kevin Smith, alsostarring Liv Tyler.
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So I'm really excited aboutthis because about two weeks ago
maybe less two weeks ago I, forone reason or another, started
binging Ben Affleck movies and Iwatched like five of them and I
don't know why I did it.
But this is awesome becausethis is another one that I
didn't watch at that time but Iget to watch now.
So I would like to thankMarkov81, our community member
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that suggested that movie we'redoing Jersey Girl.
Next week for our Portal isPick episode.
All right, this is Aaronsigning off this episode of the
Phantom Portals podcast, brash.
Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Aaron, do you think
this is a fucking game?
Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yes, it's hide and
seek, it is.
See you guys.