Week 4 Matchups, Starts & Sits

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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We will be doing our week fourmatchups.

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Speaker 3 (00:47):
a buddy role.
Yeah, I was doing good.
I just got back from my wife'sgrandma's house Actually
Jordan's grandma.
It's been a good day.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Nice, nice, jordan, how you doing?
You've got basketball seasonofficially.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm doing good.
Just got home from practice soI ran home and we're here Been a
busy day, but it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Perfect.
Well, let's get these week fourmatchups, guys.
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All right, jordan, do you havethe totals ready from last week?

(02:39):
You got that quick and ready togo, or we not add those up?

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, Yep, no, I just do it right now actually.
So I went.
So, trent, you actually were inlast place this week with nine
and seven.
Phil was in a third with 10 andsix.
Seth went 11 and five and Iactually won the week at 12 and
four.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Nice Wow.
So do you match my record lastweek?
Did I get 12 last week or no?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
No, you were 11 and five.
11 and five.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay.
One and week two, so Gotta getback in those double digits, so
all right.
And Phil did send his picks in,so that is good.
I hope we get in dock there,but we might just dock him for
you know, not having perfectattendance, right, so we'll do
that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
All right, maybe my name description.
Yeah, seth says it all yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Phil Seth's name description on YouTube says it
all.
You guys can go check that outat TFF dudes.
All right, so let's jump intoThursday night football.
Here, guys, we have the two andone Lions traveling to Green
Bay to take on the two and onePackers.
The total is 45 and Detroit isfavored by one and a half.
Christian Watson is playing inthis game.

(03:53):
I am not sure about Packersrunning backs.
I think you can start.
Christian Watson.
Jordan, what notes do you havefor this game?
And we have?
Do we have a sleeper play?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, I think.
I think we just you people needto watch, the need to watch
socials with sleeper play.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
All right, that's perfect, that's perfect.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
And I thought we we got some of the injured news
before the pod, which I'mactually surprised about.
We got the Christian Watsonnews tonight what 10 minutes ago
almost that he's playing, soand then Aaron Jones are waiting
on Aaron Jones, so I tend tothink maybe Aaron Jones isn't
playing.
I don't know, though We'll see.
I guess.

(04:38):
Can you play Christian Watson?
You just said you can, but Idon't know.
Can you try it?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I think you can.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I said I think he's the number one and you've
held on to him this long.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think you kind of so, but I guess it maybe depends
on how your team is withChristian Watson, because I
would just worry, like are theygoing to let him just go full,
go right away, like talkingabout a guy who's had hamstring
problems?
An injury.
No, I know, but like, are theyjust going to go full, go at 90%

(05:13):
snaps with Christian Watsonright away?
I I have a hard time believingthat.
Like, is it going to be 30%,40%, 50, 60, like where I just
don't know?
There's a lot of questions.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I guess the severity of the hamstring injury right.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean three weeks.
So I don't know.
I just, I just I'm very like, Ijust don't know.
Maybe we get some news, andhonestly we probably will get
some news of a snap count orfull go, some type of
limitations.
If we get no, no limitationfrom the coach, then I'm
starting them.
But if I hear, oh, we're goingto ease them in, you know,

(05:50):
there'll be some limitations, Idon't know.
I probably depends on who elseyou have on your team.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, I think I think most guys would probably have
dubs on their team.
Like I know every league, Ihave Watson and I have dubs, so
I'm not really worried eitherway.
I think the explosiveness thatWatson has is just what I've
been missing in that, like, asmy second receiver, you know
that I've been missing.
No, yeah, I get you Um, so Ialso draft in a best ball draft,

(06:17):
or in a in a uh Thursday nightslate draft on underdog, so on
to play.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Nice, yeah, nice.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, it's actually actually.
I would take that back.
It's a Thursday night, sundaymorning slate.
That's what they did, nice,nice.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
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were a catch away from someserious cash I had.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I had finally gotten over that, and then you brought
it back.
Well, what's up with that?
I'd finally moved on, you know,moved on To the next light and
you bring it back up.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
But for what's worth, though.
We did the math on whatJordan's up this year, and we're
up six units right now, sowe're looking pretty good, yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
So so yeah, on the, on the, on the video, and that
wasn't even a video play.
For being honest, trent, right,Like we were just mad because
all of us had that play, wedidn't give that out.
It was just yeah, we were justmad about that.
But uh, video plays two and two, one unit.
If you put one unit on it, thatcould be whatever your unit is.
I, uh, like it could be 50bucks, 100 bucks, 20 bucks, five

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bucks, I don't, I don't unitshame.
People can play whatever theywant, that's something.
But if you go with one unit onthe video plays, we're up.
We're two and two, but we're upsix units.
So, like, if you play the videoplays, in theory you should be
up six, six units.
So that's still pretty good andbecause they're all 5X, you
know you can afford to lose someand still be profitable.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
So Yep, that's the fun part of it.
So you just got to be about 50%and you're going to make money.
So All right.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
And you'll have a sleeper play on, on, on.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Twitter Jordan Sleeper play, yeah, yeah,
probably tomorrow morning, andthat is at J metha, underscore
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Speaker 4 (08:23):
Um, so on the Detroit side, sharon, I think it's
pretty obvious, like Montgomery,we need the Montgomery news,
that that's also a big news inthis game, because if Montgomery
plays, I think he is viable, Ithink Gibbs is probably.
You're just going to play Gibbs, no matter what, you know your
draft capital on him.
And then St Brown, and then Ilike Laporta, laporta this week,

(08:45):
um.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I like Laporta too.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Seth, yeah, laporta, and then I think on the other
side, seth, you can take thisone, because you you pointed out
first about Musgrave.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah.
So if you look, I think, um,both teams are very have getting
up like really good yards tothe tight ends and touchdowns.
Um, so I think this is likeprobably the best play of the
week for tight ends.
Either you want to play one ofthese two guys and I think they
both have a chance of being atop five finisher potentially,

(09:17):
like one of them could have ahuge game.
I would probably lean moreLaporta has the huge game, but,
um, I think if you play eitherof these guys, you're going to
be pretty happy.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
So I mean Detroit's given up the most fancy points
of tight ends this year.
The most yards of tight endsthis year, like they're really
giving it up to tight ends.
And the issue with Musgrave,though, is I just and this is
where I just don't know how muchdoes Watson coming back into
that?
It's just, there's a lot ofquestion marks.
I think I'm going to I'll sayif it wasn't such a good spot, I

(09:48):
would have more doubts, butthose numbers don't lie.
I mean, detroit obviously is isvulnerable to the tight ends,
and Musgrave was a goodreceiving tight end, so I think
I'm going to trust Musgrave thisweek.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, he's tight end 12 on the season.
We're still waiting for him toget into the end zone.
I, it's going to happen, guys.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I like I'm really should week week one must have
scored.
He literally fell, tripped overthe grass.
Yeah, and it's one.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, so he's going to find the end zone.
I I'm big on Musgraves andFerguson.
I keep saying on the waiver pod, add those two guys.
Is there anything else we wantto touch on in here?
You know your plan, your StBrown's, your plan.
Your is St Brown, is he?
He has a little bit of a turftoe.
He's fighting through, but heshould be.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
I mean he's good to go.
He looks fine last week.
Yeah, oh, trent, I'm done withAJ Dillon.
No more AJ Dillon, like theguys yeah.
I'm surprised that's on yourset.
Maybe he has some value ArentJones still questionable.
Honestly, maybe AJ Dillon hasmore value with Aaron Jones.
I don't know.
He might I just, I'm done withAJ Dillon Like.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Are they what I'm curious about, seth, I don't
know if you have PFF pulled up,but like I don't know what the
Packers average rush inside thefive yard line is this year,
maybe he's not getting thoseopportunities to run the ball
within the five yard line.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I know PFF usually has that and I'm going to look
it up right now, if you have tohave for the rest of the show
I'm looking at the game this ifI'm looking at the game, it
seems like Detroit has the edgerunning the ball, so I think, if
Montgomery plays gives, it'sgoing to be a good spot there.
I think the run game, though,is actually for the Packers.
I mean, it's at a, it's thepasses at a 22% advantage, the

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runs at a negative 38% advantage.
The Lions only give up 40% oftheir touchdowns within the five
yard line, so it's going to behard to get that running back
touchdown.
Yeah, I just think I think youjust stay away from this, the
Packers guys, I think I thinkwe're all hoping this is a high
scoring game, so I think we'rethinking a lot of passing, and

(11:48):
so I think I would just stayaway from Aaron Jones, who's
been hurt in, aja Dillon, whohasn't done squat while he's
been hurt.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
So yeah, and honestly , thursday night football games
don't tend to be high scoringgames, right.
Last week kind of was on oneside, but yeah historically it
seems like the short week kindof favors, the short week
defense kind of the longer theseason goes on, potentially.
What do we want to make?

Speaker 4 (12:15):
our thing is that the Detroit defense isn't great,
and neither is green baseddefense so yeah, no, it is at 45
.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
So that's a decent total.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I am going to say that the I'm going to go Packers
win this one at home.
As much as I love Dan Campbell,as much as I like the Lions, as
much as I like Jared Goff andall those weapons, I think this
is a good Thursday night game.
I'm excited for it.
But I'm going to go Packers,I'm going to go with the home
team.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Man, the Packers are.
Packers are favorite orDetroit's favored.
I'm going to go Detroit here.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, I got.
I think I'm going Detroit too.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, all right, and I believe Phil Phil has all his
picks.
They're on my phone right now.
He didn't put it on the show,doc, like a normal human being,
so we have them, but we don'tknow what he's picking,
unfortunately, I'd have a hardtime believing he was going for
the Packers, right.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, I'll.
I'll fill him in later.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
It's not worth our time.
Phil picks the Lions.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
All right, so I have a.
Let's go over to our next game,over to the Sunday slate.
Guys, this game is across thepond, so get your tea and
crumpets ready.
This is a I'm not sure whattime this is.
This is a 6 30 AM game.
6 30 kickoff 6 30 Pacific time.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
9 30 Eastern Standard Time.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
All right.
So we have the Lions at two andone playing the Jacksonville
Jaguars, who are one and two, 43and a half total.
Jacksonville's favored by three.
London game over the pond.
Calvin Ridley revenge game.
Kyle Pitts, I believe, hasscored more touchdowns.
He scored touchdowns on foreignsoil.
He has a London TD, so maybePitts has a game.
I'm I doubt it, but I'm moreexcited.

(13:59):
Excited for Calvin Ridley inthis game.
Jordan, what do you got in thishole?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
You know for your Jags question didn't the Calvin
Ridley saga start Two years ago?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
he didn't?

Speaker 4 (14:11):
he didn't get on the plane to London.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
When they were playing the Jaguars.
I believe so, jaguars right,yeah, maybe he didn't get on the
plane and then it just went andhe left.
Then he didn't play for mentalhealth and the gambling thing.
The last game he played for theFalcons was that or he didn't
play.
He never got on the plane toLondon and it was all downhill
from there, right.
I know it was something likethat.

(14:34):
I don't know if they played theJaguar specifically, but I know
it was a London game.
He just didn't get on the plane, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
There's a good chance that it was the Jaguars.
You know they're kind ofbasically.
You know that's their secondhome.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
And it's why they're favored by three, and that's the
other.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
It's just it just clicked for me right now.
That that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, whether it was Jacksonville or not, it was a
London game.
And what's weird about this isI don't know from what I hear
from players.
They hate playing in Londonjust because of the travel and
everything Like it's terrible.
And I know the Jaguars.
They do it twice a year.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
No, so this year is the first time they're playing
twice and they're playing backto back weeks.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's a big advantage for next week.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
They're just going to stay over there.
That's what I think they'restaying.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, it's a two week trip to London.
So I I know I think a lot offamily like I know Trevor
Lawrence said his whole entirefamily is there, his parents,
why like?
So I would imagine a lot offamilies are probably going just
because it's a two week, likeit's a 10 day trip.
Yeah, guys are probably.
I think that gives an advantage.

(15:39):
The Jaguar is both weeks.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
I think you're going to have a family.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I think it probably does give a huge advantage for
the bills next week, but wherethey're going to need the
advantage more.
But yeah, this Jaguar is teamman, they got to get right.
Like, I still I'm veryfrustrated but I still have
faith because all the reasonswhy they were hyped, those
reasons are still there.
You know, like, if things arejust not clicking on offense.

(16:04):
So we'll see what happens.
But you would think at somepoint this Jaguar team is more
talented than what they've shown.
I'm hoping Zay Jones can playbecause I think he actually adds
that third receiving elementthat they need.
So I just, yeah, I like Ridley,Like at some point the guy

(16:26):
dropped a touch, a wide opentouchdown, last week.
I think if he catches that passthe game's probably completely
different.
He's a strived down down thefield, drops a pass, Um he's a
season or he's a setting a.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I think he's leading the league and drop passes up
four.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, yeah, and he had like false starts.
He's in his head, I think.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
So he's getting a lot of targets though, so I think
the usage is good yeah.
So I think in the revenge gameTrent's right.
So I mean he's got to get rightright here.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I almost made him my star of the week Jordan just for
the revenge game narrative.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, I think it's fine.
I can use your playing Ridley.
I think you're playing Ingram.
I think Ingram is getting a lotof good usage too.
Uh, kirk, if Zay Jones is out,and then, uh, he's going to get
a lot of good usage.
Travis, etn, like.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I don't know, I'm playing Travis ETN.
I think yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Say for Bijon.
I think this is smashed forBijon this week.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Here's the problem.
What here's my issue, seth, isthat it is a lot better.
Here's the problem with what wejust said it by the numbers, it
is a better matchup forJacksonville through the air
than on the ground.
Yes, and it is a lot bettermatchup for the Falcons through
the air than on the ground.
But the issue is the Falconscan't throw the ball.
Don't throw the ball.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
won't throw the ball, whichever one it is, I don't
really know.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Um, you can't really.
I guess you can play DrakeLondon, but like both pits and
London are not getting there inthe same, they're just not
enough to go around.
But it's a.
It's a lot better matchup.
The Jaguar is getting torchedthrough the air, um, and they're
a lot better against the run,and the same for the Falcons,
like the Falcons are a lot worseagainst the past or a better
run defense.
But I still think ETN looksreally good.

(18:11):
He was the probably only Jaguarwho played good last week and
then, um, I think it's a greatspot for Lawrence and Ridley to
get right, but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
All right, I'm going to go.
Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think I got Jaguars .
I got to go Jaguars too.
They have a little bit moreadvantage.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Phil went.
Phil more used to it.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Phil went Falcons.
Okay, I'm going Jags.
All right, moving on.
We have this is an excitinggame right here.
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Hey.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Trish yeah, where did he get hit at?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Uh, yeah, Speaking of Caleb Williams being hit, yeah,
this is a good.
Uh, you know he's.
He didn't look like a modernman in that, in that video,
right, and the modern man's aman might hey, he might need
some help where he got hit.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
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Speaker 3 (19:10):
You might need to take care of himself.

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So thank you for that and uhyeah, I don't have my cue card.
Sorry I'm on the road, but oneof the better games of the week.
We have the dolphins, who arethree, and O going to Buffalo,

(19:54):
who is two and one.
The total is 53 and a half inBuffalo is favored by two and a
half.
We don't have any starts and hesits, but I think this is kind
of what everybody wants to know.
Jordan is what can we do withDevin, is it?
He said he wants to be called Hon.
Did you see that H on?
Yeah, devin, h on.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think that's how you pronounce it, how it's
pronounced yes.
Now, that's how he wants topronounce.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Like can we play him in this game?
I the the bills are a betterdefense, for sure, um.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I think that's we know if Ahmed is Ahmed playing.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think it's probably too early if he's game time
decision or not Looking at PFF.
What is H on?
H on is running back 27according to PFF on the week,
and Raheem Moser is running backnine.
So I think this is kind of theweek where you can tell you know
what his usage might be.

(20:54):
I know a lot of people.
I saw one guy uh Steve onTwitter said that he's playing H
on over Garrett Wilson thisweek Interesting I think that's
a mistake.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah, but that's just me personally.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
He still has time to change his lineup or whatever.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, no, um, I'm just trying to Buffalo's like
not a bad run defense, they'relike a mid-back run defense, so
I just it's tough man.
They like Moser a lot too and Iknow that H on was so good, but
it's tough, it's just a toughsituation.

(21:33):
So looking looking at the bills, defense Buffalo's, buffalo's
only giving up 12 fancy pointsper game to running backs.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, yeah, their first game.
Who'd they play week one?
It seems like a while ago.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
They got.
They got embarrassed by the jetyeah.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
They got 172 rushing yards to the jets 55 rushing
yards versus the Raiders and 105rushing yards last week Verse I
can't remember who they playedat the moment, so they're not
giving up touchdowns, I think isthe thing.
Yes, um, which is what you need.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
And I.
I think you can play him, trent, I'm going to go.
I think you can play him,depending on who's on your team,
like there might be situationswhere you just have to play him.
I get that, you know.
Or it's like hey, if you're AJDillon or H on, play H on,
please.
Yes, you know that's yourdilemma.
Go ahead and play H on.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Um, I think this could be a big Gabe Davis game.
Like he looks right here onmute, I'm mute myself.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
So I'm here, nevermind, I'm all.
I'm on mute, all right.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Nevermind, sorry.
So I think you can play GabeDavis.
Gabe Davis looks a lot betterthis year.
Yeah, if you touch the micright there, jordan, it's kind
of finicky there, but uh, Ithink you can play Gabe Davis.
He looks a lot better and helooked good last year up to the
point when Josh Allen got hurtand he never was the same.
I think Gabe Davis might bekind of what we thought he was
going to be last year this year.

(22:57):
So from what I'm seeing fromGabe Davis, he looks pretty good
and I think we can blame mostof that last year on Josh
Allen's arm, just not being ahundred percent from what I've
seen so far.
Um, maybe a good James Cookspot.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, I think Cook is fine here.
Um, it's just a really goodgame.
I think you just kind of playeverybody honestly is what I
think.
Yeah, um, kinkade's the one Ihave issues with Trent.
I really high on Kinkade.
He's only playing 50% snaps.
He's getting out snapped byDawson Knox.
Um, I think that percentage isgoing down, so it's just.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't know they're playing less to tied in
personnel.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
And they're not playing as much too tight in
personnel.
I don't think yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think we're going to be.
I think Gabe Davis is keepingKinkade on the sidelines maybe
and I think Kinkade's just young, right, so maybe they aren't
playing him quite yet.
So I think he'll get there.
I just don't know if it's thisyear.
You probably need to wait andsee a little bit more.
But yeah, I think you start.
Everybody is waddle.
Do we know for sure aboutwaddle yet?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Waddles, waddles playing, okay so waddles playing
Okay.
I think it's.
It's going to be a great gamethough it's, I think it's the
equivalent to the ChargersVikings game last week.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Okay, yeah, no, I agree with you.
I'm going to say bills, winthis game.
I'm going to go with the homedog, tyree kill though, if
dolphins look pretty good, ifthey can protect to.
A dolphins are tough to beat.
But I'm going to say bills, winthis game.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I'm going to go bills soon.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, trent, that's what I was listening to somebody
today and that's on a podcastand that's what they were kind
of saying.
That, uh, you know, like, iftwo, two is like an easy
quarterback to kind of like readif you think he's going to have
time in the pocket, he'sprobably going to do well.
Yeah, if he's not going to havetime in the pocket, um, he's
probably not going to do well.
And I haven't looked at thepass stretch numbers for the

(24:54):
Buffalo but I feel like they'renot like they're getting huge
pass stretch on teams.
I know last week they destroyedSam Howe, but I think Sam Howe
just sucks.
So you, know, I don't know ifyou had those numbers set.
Do you have those numbers?

Speaker 3 (25:08):
I can pull it up.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
It's, it's not, it's not worth um, I just think.
I don't think they're likeelite at the pass stretch.
So I think I'm going toactually go Miami here, Okay.
I'm starting to believe inMiami.
I might regret it, but uh, asof right now as of right now.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think Waddle's on pay.
He's going to get the 2000receiving yards, like he said.
The guy looks unbelievable.
Oh, tyreek, sorry, tyreek, yeah, tyreek is going to get the.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
So, all right, they're about the same.
They're about the same defenseversus the pass, so okay.
It should be a.
I think it should be.
That's why the game total is sohigh.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
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He's been sharing a lot ofvideo.
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(26:04):
Uh, tom's a great guy.
We really like him.
Definitely a friend of thedudes.
But with that being said, weare going on to our next matchup
and in this matchup, I believeSeth has a start.
We have the Vikings, who are 0and 3, going to Carolina to play
the Panthers, who are 0 and 3.
The the total is 44 and a half.
Minnesota is favored by three.

(26:25):
Seth, what do you got here?
Who's your star of the week?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
So we got the.
We got the first toilet bowlgame of the season.
Both teams are 0 and 3.
There will only be one teamleft after this and if it's the
Vikings I'm going to be verysurprised.
But because it's the Vikings Ihave.
My star of the week is AdamThielen.
So I think we got the news thatBryce Young is starting, which
is I'm a little disappointedbecause I made this start before

(26:51):
I found out he was playing, butI think it's fine.
Um week two, bryce Young, adamThielen connected seven for nine
, 54 yards in a touchdown, butlast week with Andy Dahl, and he
was 11 for 14 for 145 in atouchdown.
That was against the Seahawkspass defense, which is not good.
But the encouraging thing aboutthis is Minnesota's pass

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defense, I think, is the leagueworst within three games 55
receptions and 710 yards andfive touchdowns um given up to
receivers and I think they'reeither the same or worse than
the Seahawks secondary.
Uh, we all know the Vikings aregoing to score points, so the
Panthers are going to have tothrow the ball and hopefully
Bryce Young's on it and thatmeans he's going to throw into

(27:35):
the number one receiver and AdamThielen.
So hopefully I'm I hope he'sgoing to get around seven plus
catches, I think, 80 to 100yards and hopefully that
touchdown.
If you're giving up fivetouchdowns in three games for
receivers, likely there's goingto be a touchdown to receiver.
They're hoping it's AdamThielen and not DJ Chark, but
we'll see.
So Adam Thielen started theweek, fire him up.

(27:56):
I think you can also play DJChark in this, just because
Minnesota's past events isabysmal.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I I like the Adam Thielen play.
He's wide receiver, nine on theseason so far.
Uh, I think it's a good spotfor him playing.
It's his former team and justMinnesota.
This could be a game where theyjust both teams are throwing
the whole time.
I do agree, though I would feelbetter if Dalton was the
starting quarterback.
I think Jordan, anything youknow, you're starting your
Jefferson's.

(28:22):
We're probably playing JustinJefferson sleeper play, no
matter what the receiving yardsis.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
So it's bigger than that.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Actually, I'm smashing it yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
I think it's Seth.
It's below a hundred now.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I think that's the mark.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
It's at 99 and a half now.
I think we hit it.
It's over a hundred, um, and Ithink, like honestly I think the
Adam Thielen over four and ahalf receptions.
I think you can just lock,smash that too, like yes just
because I think I like that overthe yards.
The yards are 51 and a half,like you said, week two seven,

(28:56):
seven catches for 54 yards, youknow.
So he easily could just havelike four or five, five, just
you know, the five for 35 gamewouldn't surprise me, or the
seven for 45 game wouldn't shockme.
But he's this.
I couldn't agree more with whatyou said, seth.
Like this whole game, like both, the Vikings are absolutely

(29:16):
atrocious against the past.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So bad, so bad.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
My, my only thing.
So it's actually a good spotfor the Carolina.
Uh, for the Minnesota run game.
The Carolina got worked by KenWalker last week, um, I think.
Uh, week one, um, al, jir andBijon ran all over them, right.
Um, I can't remember off top ofmy head who they played in week
two, uh, with Evan PackersPackers, right.

(29:41):
Well, yeah, adrian Dillon sucks, so there's that.
But, um, I think that'sactually his best game of the
season, but, uh so, but here'sthe issue.
Cam Acres is probably activethis week and what is the?
The Madison Acres thing?
I just don't know.
Like, as good of a spot it is,I can't like actually say you
should play one of them until weget more like clarity on what

(30:04):
that's going to look like.
If we do get that clarity, theydidn't just trade for Acres not
to use them, and I know Madisonlooked good last week.
But I think anyone kind of runon the Chargers is a great spot
for them and it's a great spothere too.
I just don't know what it lookslike.
I guess is what I'm saying.
I wish I knew, because I thinkone of them is probably going to
have a good game.
I just don't know which one ifthey're, you know, I just don't

(30:24):
know the situation there.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
All right, I'm going to say Vikings win this game.
Is anyone want to go on thePanthers side?
I think you can play MiloSanders still, uh, anyone?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
else I think my uh Milo Sanders, I think Milo
Sanders in a good spot too,trent.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think so.
So I'm going to go.
I'm going to go.
Vikings win this game.
Kirk finally gets that win.
Kirk's kind of playing for hisjob right now.
You know there's a lot of talksabout maybe them starting to
tank for Caleb Williams, Uh, butI like Adam Thielen and,
honestly, my favorite thing,like well, if you wanted to make
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Speaker 3 (31:36):
I'm going to go.
Vikings get their first dub.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Want to try to get one of us here, jordan.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
No, no, I think I'm going to go um, I'm going to go
Vikings.
I was just seeing if I had anyAdam Thielen Trent in best ball.
I'm going to assume no, becauseI was not very high on that.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I don't think I have any either.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I have, like I have funny story, I have 38% Terrence
Marshall Jr.
Okay, I don't think I have anyAdam Thielen, I'm hoping
Terrence Marshall starts to getit going.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Honestly, I don't know.
But uh, all right, we go to ournext game here.
I have a start in this game.
We have the O and three Broncosanother O, you know, another.
This we have two games withteams that don't have wins, but
we have the O and three Broncostraveling to Chicago to take on
the O and three Bears.
The line is 46.
Denver is favored by three anda half and my start of the week

(32:30):
here is I have Givante Williams.
I really like him in thismatchup.
I'm looking at the Bears rushdefense.
They gave up 91 rushing yards.
Their first game, 120-153.
This is just a team that isfalling out of control both
sides of the ball.
But I think Givante Williamsfinally gets going in this game
and we've been waiting for it.

(32:50):
It's what it's week four, sothe knee should be, you know,
getting close to 100%.
But I really like Givante inthis matchup.
I don't know what you thinkabout Givante Jordan.
You will worry.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
One.
This is.
This is the actual toilet bowlSeth.
This one is the toilet bowl.
Yeah, this one's worse theseare probably the two worst teams
.
Yeah, they're the two worstteams because the Cardinals are
playing better than these twoteams, so these are two worst
teams in the league.
They just the Broncos gave up70 points Like you got to try
hard to give up 70 points in anNFL game, anyways and the Bears

(33:26):
these two teams gave up acombined 110, 111 points last
week.
Trent.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, it's me wild.
It's me wild.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
So, like these games either go two ways, though right
, like they either really suckand they're just boring and low
scoring, or both teams are sobad that they're good, like the
game ends up being a decent game.
You know so I kind of lean thatway actually that there's
offense in this game.
So I'm right there withJuvantes.
That's in my note Juvantes spot.

(33:56):
I think Sutton's also in a goodspot.
I Think DJ Moore's in a goodspot on the opposite side,
because we saw what the Viking Imean the dolphins did to this
Broncos team and you know theproblem is it's like it's the
best spot fields is gonna haveall year at this point, like

(34:17):
this is a gut check game forJustin fields.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I think you might want to trade him after this
game.
I.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
I just, if he can't do it here, he's not gonna do it
all year.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, he should have some more rushing.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
I Just, I just it has to be the fields game, right
Like yeah, and I there's goingto be a fields game.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, and this is ugly, but I think you can do it.
I think you can play RussellWilson in this game Potentially.
I just don't know if theBroncos score enough.
But look at this Jordan, Ibelieve Russell Wilson Sorry, I
thought he was on that graph Ibelieve he's QB 11 on the season
, Like he's playing a lot better.
I know I don't like it, but ifthere's anything else you want

(35:01):
to pull up on that.
But yeah, Russ doesn't look I.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
The only thing I want to say, trent, is that I've
been right on Russell Wilson forthe last two.
When do we start doing this pot?
Three years ago, three yearsago, I have been saying Russell
Wilson, that sucks.
Ever since then, I have Philtrying to tell me that he
doesn't suck.
I have Seth I don't know, Ithink Seth was kind of in the
middle, you know but likeRussell, sucks hot out washed.

(35:27):
He's been washed since he wasin Seattle.
Um, yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I couldn't like he's QB.
He's QB nine on the season I.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Don't think I could look at myself in the mirror,
trent, and play Russell Wilson.
I'm not looking at myself inthe mirror and tell someone that
should play Russell Wilson, butI don't know, I guess you could
I don't love it, but here's,here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Like Just looking at some matchups here, like this is
like the first week.
That'd be like if you're aJessam fields owner, you might
want to pick up Russell Wilsonfor the on the future, because I
this is a good fields game, butnext week I don't know who
they're playing.
Would you rather play JustinFields or Russell Wilson?
You know, I'm saying there's alot of guys.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I lean Justin Fields, I guess.
Just I saw Justin Fields yeah,the elite producer less than six
, eight months ago.
I haven't seen Russell Wilsonbeing elite fantasy producer in
four years.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
That's true, oh.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Oh, like, and I think , sean Payton man, I don't know
what.
He just seems like a differentcoach, just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
No, I think.
I think Sean Payton's a goodcoach, but I think he's very
overrated to what he did withTony Romo and what he did with
Drew Brees, like RussellWilson's not what those two guys
are, so like we haven't rightthere.
Yeah, like I know everybody,like I said it all offseason
like everyone loves Sean Payton,but he's a Glorified Mike
McCarthy that hasn't proved itin a while.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Is he like a?
He's probably one of the.
There's two types of coaches,right.
There's coaches who overachievewith bad players yeah, or not
bad players, but theyoverachieve with less talented
players.
Or there's another like twotypes of good coaches those who
overachieve with okay playersand get the best out of them.
Or good coaches who Just makegood players elite, you know and
they say, alright, they wentsuper bold with good players,

(37:13):
and not every coach can do that.
But I think Sean Payton's like,he had Drew Brees and he made
Drew Brees really good and thatteam really good, because and
Bill Belichick's kind of thesame way, right, he's made, he
made, he took really goodplayers and took them to the
next level.
So, and Russell Wilson's not agood player in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
So, anymore, yeah, hey, phil said he's gonna go off
, so I.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
I don't know what's gonna happen.
Those things and go off everyweek for the last four years.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's true.
Okay, I'm gonna say thatBroncos win this game.
Anyone going Bears is in Denver, it's in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Oh man, I'll go, man.
I don't like saying this, butI'll go Denver too.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Russell Wilson sucks, go Bears.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, bear down here at your first.
All right.
Next game we have some startsand sits.
We have the two-in-one Ravenstraveling to Cleveland to take
on the two-in-one Browns.
The line is 41.
Cleveland is favored by two anda half.
I will go with me and Sethactually both have sits.
My sits is I have Ravensrunning backs.
I'm just not seeing enough outof this backfield.

(38:30):
It looks like Lamar's finallygonna start taking things into
his own hands.
Browns are giving up 50 rushingyards per game.
On the ground.
Gus Edwards had the backfieldto himself last week, ran for 51
yards.
He also got a concussion, butHarbaugh said he is not in the
concussion protocol right now.
But I don't like any Ravensrunning backs until you know,
till they prove something.

(38:51):
To me it doesn't look good andLamar's running the ball more
again.
So, seth, what's your sit youhave here?

Speaker 3 (38:57):
So this might I don't know if it necessarily
contradicts what you're saying,but maybe the Browns defense is
just good.
I think we can say but I'm I'mgoing to sit Mark Andrews here.
This is kind of bold, but MarkAndrews really has done that
much this year.
But what's even crazier is whatthe Browns have allowed To

(39:19):
tight ends.
They've only allowed sevencatches for 26 yards in three
games, and I think this reallyhas to do with how they play
defense.
But also their main guy tocover tight ends is Grant Delpit
.
He is the highest PFF gradeagainst tight ends at 91.4.
So he is the best guy atcovering tight ends when it

(39:40):
comes to man or certain zones.
I think he also comes up andplays linebacker quite a bit or
like that that fourth or thirdlinebacker and also plays those
zones.
But this puts Andrews at anight or negative 45% advantage
in his matchup.
I think they're like what Trentwas saying the Ravens moved the
ball with the Mars feet and Ithink this could be a really big

(40:02):
Zay flowers game.
So if you can sit Andrews,definitely do it.
I think maybe if you can pickup someone like Musgrave, maybe
he's maybe more available thanthe Porta, or even someone like
Ferguson on the Cowboys.
I think you pick those guys upand play him.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, I, I.
The problem is where you gotAndrews.
He's just really hard to sitwith the capital you spent on
him.
And, yeah, my only argumentthat is is I actually like your
argument more than what Ithought I was gonna like it set.
He did your homework.
My only argument is is if Lamarreally starts running around,
it's just gets really hard tocover Andrews and stuff like
that, because that's just not.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
He looks for him.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, it's like when Lamar breaks the play, breaks
down, he looks for Andrews.
That's, that's my only argument, but he isn't having a great
season so far.
We're still waiting for that.
You know, breakout game, whatdo you think?
And Jordan?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Do you think Mark Andrews still dealing With that
quad injury a little bit?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Maybe so maybe they brought him back a little too
early, I don't know.
But the game they brought himback, he scored a touchdown.
He's tied in the line.
I know I just yeah no, he verywell could be, but uh.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Lamar asked for some insider Intervention.
Yeah, we could.
We do have a friend on theRavens.
Yeah, Lamar.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Lamar had a great game last week and I guess the
only through 200 yards, 200yards.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
He has yet a great fantasy game, right?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I think there's two different ways, yeah he had 14
rushing attempts for 100 yardsand two rushing touchdowns.
And that leads into why I don'twant to play Ravens running
bags.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, I think I'm Mark Cooper's in a good spot
again, like, yeah, he looksreally good.
Obviously is predictable, likewe talked about.
I wish I would have been moreon that to Sean Watson spot last
week, but it's a tougher spotfor sure.
But I think a Cooper you'reobviously playing Cooper.
Jerome Ford popped up on theinjury report.

(41:57):
I didn't really see what forGot a monitor that, but I think
he's in a decent role.
Cream hunt also popped on theinjuries injury report too.
So instead of look at those,but I think you can play one of
those guys.
It's not the greatest spot inthe world, though it's tough
spot they used for in the pastgame a little bit and related
last week.
Alright, it's kind of it for me.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna go Raven and it's actually a tough
pick for me Browns at home.
I'm gonna say Ravens, don't wintwo in a lose two in a row.
So I'm gonna go Baltimore.
I.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Think this Cleveland defense is like elite?
No, Jeff, sit on this pod.
Yeah, I think I'm gonna gobrown.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Okay, yeah, they are good.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
This is Ford was limited with a shoulder.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
That's not a great thing.
Those shoulder injuries justdon't go away.
Is the problem right?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Especially for right now it's a nink based that it's
a minor issue because there'sbeen no, there's been hard thing
any reports.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Well, what about cream hunt?
What he popped up there with.
I could find out See here I gotit right here.
Maybe not Cream hunt Ribs groin, that didn't sound any better.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
No, especially for a guy who didn't play all.
Exactly doesn't look good.
Okay, you guys all put.
You guys both pick browns, allright.
Going to our next game, we havethe two and one Pittsburgh
Steelers traveling to Houston totake on the Texans, who are one
and two.
The totals 41, pittsburgh'sfavored by three.
I have a sit in this game.
I have Nico Collins is my sit.

(43:33):
It looks like tank.
Del Del has emerged as the widereceiver one.
Cj Stroud looks really good.
He's a very efficient, verygood rookie quarterback.
I talked about that a lot onthe waivers pod, but what was it
?
My notes here?
Stroud's been sacked 11 timesthrough three games.
He's getting hit a lot.

(43:53):
Eventually these sacks aregoing to add up and I just think
you know Pittsburgh has 13sacks on the season.
I think what could get toStroud in this game and I think
Stroud's gonna just be forcingit to tank, will tank.
They'll more and more and Ithink I think Nico's getting
aced out of this.
I was talking to a guy theother day and he was just like,
yeah, I'm really happy how NicoCollins is doing for me.
I'm gonna keep playing them andI'm just thinking to myself

(44:16):
like I really don't think youcan play Nico, like I think it's
just turning into, especiallyin this matchup, jordan, what do
you think?
I?

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Think it's the matchup more than anything.
I think Neil Collins will haveLike value down the road.
I don't think he's completelylike Washington.
Yeah, don't let him go on thisyear, like yeah, I just I think
it's the matchup, it's how closethe spread is Probably not
gonna be a blowout, like there'sgoing to be games where you
know Collins is going to havevalue.

(44:45):
Yeah, I kind of agree with you.
I think I don't.
You know if I like tank Dell asmuch this week either.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I don't know if I love them either.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Yeah, like it's just the spot, but I think you can
like.
You can play tank Dell if youwant.
So I'm not anti it, but likeAnything else in this game Maybe
a non-j game, you all, I Justwhat do I?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Like maybe if not now , then when you know.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
I'm not playing Najee , so it's kind of I just think
he's not good and I thinkWarren's so much better.
But we've already discussed whyyou can't really trust that
either.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
There's their snap.
Percentages are about the sameyeah he used.
Houston, according to pff, isthe 25th ranked defense on the
season and they're giving.
I like Nick and yeah, houston'sgiving up over a hundred yards
per game on the ground.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Okay, that's just hard cuz.
You don't know yet, you don't?
I like George Pickens a lotthis week, really like him a lot
.
He just looks really good.
What else here?
I Don't like Damian Pierce everso, but I guess you could play
him.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I don't know yeah, all right, I'm gonna say
Steelers win this game.
Anyone go Texans.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
I'm going Steelers.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Man, I want to say Texans, but I think they're
point about the sack scares meand I think I Think that's gonna
play coming to effect here, soI'll go Steelers.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
All right.
Next up we have the one and twoRams traveling to Indianapolis
to take on the two and one Colts.
The total is 45.
Indianapolis is favored by oneSeth.
You have a start in this game.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Yeah, so my start in this game is Zach Moss.
So Zach Moss has actually putup two really good weeks in a
row.
Last week he put up 21 and halfpoint PPR I think that's more
in PPR Rushed.
He rushed 30 times, which is alot for 122 and two receptions
for 23 yards and a touchdown,and he put up 122 yards against

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a good Ravens run defense.
I think he faces a similarchallenge, but I think it might
be somewhat easier than againstthe Ravens.
What's interesting?
Those Andy Richardson, I think,is gonna play, so maybe that
rushing upside comes down alittle bit, but I don't think
that matters too much.
But he definitely won't bereceiving 32 touches but he'll

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definitely, I think, be on the20 plus side and I think this
could be like my big predictionof the week that he will be a
top five running back, justbecause I think they use him and
I actually think Zach Moss ispretty good and I think the
Colts can run the ball reallywell with their offensive line,
as we saw Jonathan Taylor did afew years ago.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
All right, anything else you got on this one, jordan
, that you want to dive in here.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
I really like, I love , I love the moss, the what such
said about moss, I think.
If I think pitmen and downs area little bit not as great with
Richardson in, and then I Reallylike all the Rams, like Kyron's
just a monster.
His role is ridiculous.

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He played every snap.
Last week, puka played like 96%snaps.
As frustrated as we were withhim, he played 96% snaps.
And you're just throwing theball a lot and this is an in a
dome, a game in a dome.
I think you go right back to atwell, puka, kyron, I like it, I
like, I like, I like all threeof those guys.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
It's too, too at well in half point.
Ppr is wide receiver 12 on theseason.
He has had three games in a rowwith triple digit points to
two's looking really good.
And he's still he's 70%rostured on sleeper.
So you might want to give twoto a look.
You know, maybe just take alittle peek at your waiver wire.
He might want to give him an ad.
He's not available in anyleagues.

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I'm in because I looked for him, but he is 70% rostured, so
there's a good shot.
You can still get two to there.
I am going to say that the I'mgonna go.
Michael Pittman has had eightcatches in every single game, I
believe minimum, which is kindof a big deal.
He's just a target monster.

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He, yeah, he caught, he'scaught.
He caught nine passes last gamehe's catching.
He's caught eight passes everygame at least.
So Fire up your Michael Pittman, yeah.
And so I'm gonna say I'm gonnago Rams when this one.
Anyone want to go against theRams this?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
game is Indianapolis or Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
What are you guys thinking?
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'mgoing Rams.
Okay, so we got Rams all theway across, all right.
Next we have the Tampa BayBuccaneers traveling to New
Orleans to take on their.
Both teams are two and one.
The total is 39 and a half.
New Orleans is favored by Three.

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This is the James Winstonrevenge game.
But, jordan, you have a sit inthis game.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah, I got a sit in this game.
My sit is Mike Evans.
So the Saints are top ten inyards passing yards allowed.
They've only allowed twoPassing touchdowns this year.
Less than 20 fancy pointsallowed to wide receivers on the
season.
I know it's early, so, likeMike Evans is probably one of

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the things I've gotten the mostwrong this year, like how I felt
about him and how I felt aboutBaker.
Like I admit I got it wrong.
But here's the deal with MikeEvans he gets absolutely owned
by Marshawn Lattimore every yearowned.
Every year I got a tweet Righthere.
It's an Ian hardest tweet.

(50:53):
He does a lot of good stuff.
Used to be for PFF, I think.
Who's he worked for now?
Trent.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
I, I thought he was still PFF, but let me, let me
check, I'll pull it up realquick.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
No, no no, he is at fantasy life.
He's on the fantasy life, okay.
So Anyways, just he does goodstuff, but anyways, he tweeted
this out today Mike Evans and 11career matchups against
Marshawn Lattimore 7 for 147 andone touchdown.
In 11 games combined 554, 386,4464, 3461, 2 448 and a

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touchdown 1 for 14, 1 for 13.
And that game he was suspended.
One game for decking low MattLattimore.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, there was a fight.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
That's got me where something one for yeah, one for
two, uh, so like the guy haslike, yeah, I mean one catch,
one catch.
He had a zero and zero game.
Zero catches, zero yardsagainst Lattimore.
Like he just gets owned andlike I don't necessarily buy
into that stuff a ton, but hegets owned like I love in games

(51:59):
in it, just it is what it is,it's real loving is what it is.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
It's become truth and rock solid and I think he just
gets in his own head like hehates Lattimore and Lattimore
hates him and, unfortunately, alot of more benefits from it.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, godwin.
Godwin has a better, mattGodwin has a better matchup in
this game.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
And the luck the luck is by the, it's by far the
toughest passing matchup they'vehad this year.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, and here's the thing where you drafted Mike
Evans.
You probably can't afford tosit him, even though it's hard.
You know what I'm saying.
But this isn't that Mike Evansthat you drafted in the second,
third, first round.
This is a guy you maybe got inthe fifth or sixth and you might
have other.
He's probably wasn't your firstreceiver taken.
You might be able to playsomeone else in his place.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
No, yeah, I, I completely agree.
And you know what, my luck,this will be the one game where
he does well against March onLattimore.
But I'm gonna play the odds,I'm gonna play the math, like
like I, just it's just too good,like I can't.
I can't Play Mike Evans in thissituation.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I could see Rashid white Maybe having a big game.
Saints defense isn't bad, butmaybe he gets.
You know, maybe bakers thatthrow to somebody.
Yeah, so I almost made Rashidwhite a start of the week here,
but I did not shot.
Way, rashad, sorry, that onealways is tough.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Oh, alvin Kamara's back it's a lot of more back
this week.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
What are we doing with the Saints?

Speaker 4 (53:28):
backfield, then you want to play him in this matchup
.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Okay, and he's fresh, he's fresh.
It might help him.
Fantasy wise to have missedthose games, you know.
But do you like him as muchwith Winston?

Speaker 4 (53:40):
It's a good.
A good, that's what I say.
It's a good matchup for alarvae too.
But Winston, I don't knowWinston.
I don't love him.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, but you know he's be aired it out, so that's
always good.
I'm gonna say Saints win thisgame.
Are they the home team?
I believe they are.
I'm gonna go with Saints.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Yeah, I'll go Saints.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
All right, we're going to the next game.
We have the Washingtoncommanders.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Trent.
What?
Who did you have?
Sorry, I didn't.
I have Saints.
Who do you have, trent?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Saints, saints, you got it.
Okay, sorry, all right so weyeah, all right next game we
have the 2-in-1 Washingtoncommanders traveling to
Philadelphia to take on the 3and 0 equals.
The line is 45 and a halfPhilly is favored by 8 and a
half Jordan.
You have a start in this, inthis game, yeah so my another

(54:38):
start.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
I got Terry McLaren as a start in this game and look
like I know Sam Hal just kindof sucks, like it is what it is,
but it's just such a goodmatchup for Terry McLaren like
if there's a week for it it'sgonna be this week.
The Eagles have pretty muchlike gotten torched In their
last three games.
Kendrick Bourne had a huge gameweek one against them all

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outside receiver, outsidereceivers.
Mclaren plays most of the timeon the outside.
Jefferson torched him, addisontorched him and Mike Evans
torched him last Monday night.
So McLaren leads the team andtargets is 18% target share.
The Eagles are a bottom 10passing yards allowed.
They've given up a passingtouchdowns.

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That's a sec.
That's second most.
So that's the most.
I like Terry McLaren.
It is the most.
I think there's a team with themost, but I could be wrong there
.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, it might be the most, but yeah, I'm pretty, I'm
pretty big on.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
The Broncos have given up nine Seth to the Eagles
eight, so but but yeah, it'ssuch a great matchup For McLaren
.
I know Sam Howell is not good,but I just got to trust the
numbers here and I think I'veseen Terry McLaren being ranked

(56:03):
is like in the mid 30s, outsideit's outside of wide receiver
three.
I think he's a top 25 receiverthis week, so I like McLaren
quite a bit.
All right, your hawn Dotson'sdead to me though.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah, I'm holding on, but I it does not look pretty.
I still have him in a lot ofleagues.
I'm very disappointed and thefact that I'm a Cowboys fan it
makes you, like, want to hatethem even more.
You know that you've been putfaith in him, but a Eagles side
Playing you probably everybodyplaying everybody you can.
Can you play game?
Well, he's still got some snapslast week.
I'm assuming you probably canplay him still.

(56:36):
I Don't love it.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
I maybe if you think the game's a blowout, I don't
love it.
I think Swiss to our players, Ithink Swiss to RB, one though
he's just really good.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, he does.
Yeah, they can't deny itanymore.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah, so yeah, sometimes he has those weird.
He had 54% of the snaps thislast week, though, and what was?
Gain Well, gain well was a lotof those not where after it was
out of reach, yeah, and in game.
Well, we had five fantasypoints last week, 14 attempts
for 43 yards.
Like Swift, look far and awayhead heels better than him.

(57:14):
So I'm gonna say Eagles, winthis game.
Anyone go commanders, oh theEagles.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Eagles.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
All right, I kind of hope they both lose.
And next game we have theCincinnati Bengals, who are one
and two, taking on the TennesseeTitans, or one and two, the
line is 42 Cincinnati's favoredby two and a half, which seems
incredibly low.
Jordan, you know Seth Seth hasa sit in this game.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah.
So I think this could be apretty bold sit.
If, from what I'm seeing, Ithink there's a consensus that
everyone's thinking he's notgonna have that bad of you, I
just don't know.
If I see it, though, the Brownsrunning game we all know is
really good and they did not runwell versus the Titans last
week, rushing 21 times for 58yards, which was interesting

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because they found success inthe passing game, but they did
find passing that they did findsuccess in the passing game with
I think the forward had a catchfor a touchdown but total four
receptions for 55 yards.
However, the Titans do have thebest yards before contact at

(58:30):
point nine yards, so they arethe best at touching the guy at
the closest time.
So they usually are a betterrun defense.
But that's like a negative 51advantage matchup.
But the thing is, I think thethe biggest part is the Titans
are very exploitable by the air.
They gave up 57 catches for 690yards, which I think is top

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five in yards given up toreceivers in four touchdowns.
I just think the the Bengalsobviously found success throwing
the ball last week and I thinkthis is gonna be another big
Jamaar chase game and I thinkthe Bengals are just gonna throw
the ball all over this, allover this Titans team.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah, my only concern , seth, is Borough.
You definitely can tell likehis right calf is biting him to
push off and throw the ball.
He was able to get chase somegood numbers last week.
But Borough, fantasy wise, I'mjust wondering if they're gonna
have to lean on the running game.
Yeah, borough had.
He threw the ball 49 times lastweek for 26 completions, 259

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yards.
He's.
Yeah, he had 10 fantasy points.
He I don't believe he had anyturnovers, he had one
interception.
He's just he looks, he can't,he's not mobile to make those
plays to, you know, buy extratime and he's not getting that
push on when he throws the balllike we like seeing Borough do.
That's my only concern withmixing, but I think most of the

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time you're usually pretty rightwhen you say not to sit mix, to
sit mixing and it's not a goodmatchup at all for mixing.
Like they're gonna have tothrow.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
It's a bad matchup and I think they're gonna want
Borough to throw.
So I think they'll make Boroughthrow and I think they think
they will find success.
Throwing the ball to chaseHiggins is not gonna have
another, another bad game likehe did last week.
T Higgins is gonna be involved.
Tyler Boyd's gonna be great Ithink there's.
I think all three pass catchersare gonna be pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
This, this game on the bangleside yeah, higgins had
eight targets last week andonly caught two of them, so he's
still he still likes Higgins alot and Jamar Chase had a really
big game last week.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
you know finally for everybody the Jamar Chase, over
under, I think, is a 83 or 87.
I think that's a pretty easyover in my eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Well, maybe you go.
The reception prop Chase had 15targets.
Yeah, chase had 15 targets lastweek and caught 12 of them.
So I don't know what hisreception play is, but that
might be a good one to monitor.
Okay, so I'm gonna say we'rereal quick yeah, just talking

(01:01:04):
about this game real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Yeah, jamar Chase wider, see where one on the week
.
Joe Borough is the top fivequarterback on the week.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
This is a great match up yeah, and Chase, like it's
the Titans suck through the air.
That's how you beat them.
Yeah, chase, wider, see whereone the week I think I like his
reception is prop just a littlebit more.
They're doing a lot of creativestuff with him around the line
of scrimmage to get him easycatches, getting the ball in
space.
So I am a all aboard team Chase.

(01:01:31):
Chase is probably like the bestplay in DFS this week to super
cheap on on DraftKings.
So and I like his props to.
I just I can't emphasize howmuch like it's the best spot of
the week is Chase and Boroughand and Higgins too.
But Higgins and Chase don'tcorrelate great, if we're being
honest, like they don't reallyboth have big spike games in the

(01:01:53):
same week.
But you can play Higgins, youknow, for the floor game and
then Derek Henry's in a littlebetter spot.
I just, I just don't like DerekHenry this year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Yeah, I was a year early on Derek, the Derek Henry
demise and and Spears had 54% ofthe snaps 56% of snaps last
week, but he didn't have a goodgame gonna be up in the game,
derek Henry's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Fine, I think they're gonna be down in the game.
You want, can't play.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Derek, you can maybe play Spears in this game maybe I
don't know if I do that eitheryeah, okay, I'm gonna say
Bengals win this game.
Anyone go Titans.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
I'm gonna Bengals, bengals all righty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I next up.
We have the we're finally tothe afternoon slate and that we
have the one and two Raiderstraveling to LA to take on the
Chargers.
It's a 47 and a half total.
La Chargers are favored by fiveand a half.
This is basically a home gamefor the Raiders, though I have a
start of the week in this gameand my start of the week is I

(01:02:54):
have a wrong, flat wrong thingthere.
I have a start of the week here.
I have Josh Jacobs.
I think it's a really good spotfor him.
Chargers are giving up 130 plusyards, have given up 130 plus
yards on the ground the last twogames.
Jacobs has got to get going.
He did not look good last week.
I think this is his get rightgame to get him going in the
right direction.
The Chargers are just a runfunnel like you can run on them

(01:03:17):
all you want.
Garoppolo has he's.
He's able to feed Adams theball.
I'm more concerned with Adams.
You know saying sounds like hemaybe wants to get traded or
he's just fed up with thesituation.
But I think they need to startleaning on Jacobs a little bit
more.
He had a great year last year.
I think this could be the gameto get him going again.
This is the matchup he needs.
For everyone who drafted Jacobs, I don't know what you guys

(01:03:42):
have to say yeah, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
Uh, no, the good thing about the Raiders is that,
uh, their volume just superconcentrated.
Right.
Jacobs and Devonte, with Myersmixed in, I just I worry Brian
Hoyer may start in this game andthat scares me a little bit.
But you playing Devonte eitherway, I agree, it's a great spot
for Josh Jacobs.
And then on the Chargers side,like it sounds like Echler might

(01:04:04):
play yeah, sounds like it'sgetting closer to that.
So, thank you.
Thank you, because Josh, joshKelly is horrible and I'm tired
of being tempted to play JoshKelly and anything.
So this is a great spot forEchler if he's playing.
And then Keenan Allen,obviously.
Then there's the Josh Palmerthing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I think Josh Palmer's in a good spot stepping up for
Mike Williams hey, there was alot of guys that put in like 50
plus fab on Josh Palmer thisweek.
I almost made that as my waiverwire you know craziest waiver
wire thing.
But when I saw that guy pickthe Steelers up for that much
money I was like I can't give itto Palmer.
But yeah, like a sauce had aleague that a guy just went
crazy on Palmer in there.

(01:04:43):
So I'll give them some creditjust for that.
But I love Keenan Allen in thismatchup.
I think par parham Parham, isit Parham Donald Parham?
I think he's kind of edging is.
I think he kind of fills thatMike Williams slot a role more
than what we're thinking.
Big body, they can throw theball yeah, in the end zone yeah,

(01:05:03):
he's a touchdown, guys, what'slooking like?
like I'm kind of worried aboutJohnston, quinton, johnson and
Palmer.
Like I'm wondering if it's justParham is what they end up
thinking with that.
But looking at Josh Kelly, hisbest game was week one when
Echler played.
He had 15 half PPR points.
But since he's at the backfieldto himself, he's been totally
just not good.

(01:05:24):
Is it possible he's better whenEchler's in the lineup?
Maybe, but I'm kind of donewith playing Kelly when he has
the backfield to himself.
He has two complete duds backto back weeks.
There's be a lot of Raider fansat this game.
Probably more Raider fans go tothe chart at the LA Chargers
Stadium to so far then they dowhen it's in Vegas.

(01:05:46):
You know, I'm saying like Ifeel like they have a better
advantage in LA than they do athome from what I've seen, just
like what I see on TV.
Yeah, I don't know what whatanything else you guys want to
say in here.
Like Herbert has a really goodspot is in a good spot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I just think the Chargers beat down on the
Raiders what do you think inJordan?

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
yeah, I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go Chargers here,would you say Trent Chargers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
I'm gonna go Chargers as much as I want to say
Raiders, I just I don't thinkthey can get it down at the
moment if Jimmy G's not playing,you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Yeah, absolutely yeah , this is this is Wednesday
night.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
We don't know who the quarterback is at the moment,
so what is Brian horror?
I can tell you right now, oldBrian Hoyer, like what?
Mid 30s?
He is 37, so way north of mid30, well, north of mid 30s yeah
so I'm gonna go Chargers justbecause QB situation Jimmy G

(01:06:52):
hurt.
I'm shocked, not really, he'salways hurt.
Okay, next game we have hereand this kind of threw me off
that this is an afternoon slategame because it's in Texas, but
we have the one and two Patriotstraveling to Dallas to take on
the two-in-one Cowboys 42 and ahalf line.
Dallas is favored by six and ahalf.
We don't have any starts andsits but you see all the stuff

(01:07:13):
that the Cowboys are worriedthat will.
Greer is going.
You know Patriots picked him uplast week.
He knows all the hand signals,he knows the offense.
Like it is a good advantage tohave a backup QB in your room
for something like that.
And even Zeke knows the offensepretty well too.
I know it's a differentcoordinator, but there is, you
know, audible stuff like thatthat Zeke and Greer do know to

(01:07:36):
make the game a littleinteresting there.
But what do you think?
Is this a good Stevenson spot,jordan, like what are you
thinking here?
I think you can play Patriotstight ends.
I would play Hunter Henry.
I don't know what else I thinkyou find that Pollard and
whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I.
I think it's simple.
It's like CD lamb, tony,pollard, ramon Andre.
I know Zeke had a decent gamelast week, but we saw what James
Carter did this Cowboys defenseup the middle, yeah, last week.
So I like Ramon Dre, hunterHenry.
Sure, I'm staying away from theNew England receivers for the
most part, but Pollard CD, maybeyour your Ferguson's, your your

(01:08:18):
hunter Henry's, and then I likeRamon Dre mm-hmm, yeah, zeke
had 16 attempts last week and hehad 80 yards rushing and
Stevenson had 19 attempts for 59yards rushing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I could see, if the Patriots get to the red zone,
them giving Zeke a TD.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I could see that happening potentially but if
they get, and if they get downthis game, though, they're gonna
use Ramon absolutely that gamewith the jet upster, fire and
close and yeah, I'm gonna sayDallas wins this game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Any anything else you guys want to say in this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
I'll go Dallas, but yeah, scares me.
They lost the Cardinals lastweek what you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Dallas too, alright next.
Dallas.
Next game.
We have the biggest.
What is it?
Not the total, but we have theCardinals, who are 1 and 2,
going to play the 49ers, who are3 and 0.
The line is 44, san Francisco'sfavored by 14 and a half points
.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Jordan, you have a set in this game so, first of
all, we have James Connor on theroad as a underdog.
Running a 14 point dog rightback on the road is, first of
all, that's not good.
You don't like that.
So yeah, james Connor is my sit.
The Niners give up the third,their third in yards, rushing

(01:09:49):
yards allowed and I've onlyallowed two rushing touchdowns
through three weeks.
There's six best run defenseaccording to PFF, and I think
what they'll do is probably tryto shut down James Connor and
make dobs beat them through theair.
So my only concern and this iswhere Connor could beat me, as

(01:10:15):
he gets a lot of receptions, buthe's only had three targets and
two catches through the lasttwo weeks.
So I know that's maybe a littlebit of game script stuff too,
but that's how Connor beats mewith.
This is on the dump offs, but Ijust think that.
I think you can sit Connor.
This week.
He's been really good by theyou can send this week alright,

(01:10:36):
interesting maybe notinteresting play here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Marquise Brown does have back-to-back games with
touchdowns for what it's worthand he's tough matchup it's a
tough matchup.
But two weeks ago he had 10targets, six receptions.
Last week he had seven targets,five receptions.
He's hasn't had an over ahundred yard receiving game yet,
but he is finding the end zone.
Maybe a garbage time TD, butmaybe if you have to plan you

(01:11:04):
have to.
You know you gotta do what yougotta do.
But yeah, it is not a greatmatchup.
So I'm gonna say 49ers,christian McCaffrey's in a huge
slam dunk position.
I also like Kittle in this gametoo.
Brock Purdy, if you want tostream that, you just want to
save, you know, 12 to 15 points.
I think that's not a bad movie.
They're depending what yourquarterback situation is.
And next, week?

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
can we hit the?
Can we hit the anytimetouchdown again on a CMP.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I think we should hit the anytime touchdown he has.
What is it?
12 straight games with a TDyeah, seth, what do you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
think we're hitting it again we're hitting it for
sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Man, this is mashups way too good.
He's probably gonna be thefirst touch on scored.
Alright, I'm gonna go.
I even bet he's the first touchon the game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I think I'm gonna go just looking at my sleeper stuff
right now.
I'm gonna look at Jeffersonover receiving yards, thielen
receptions and CMC anytimetouchdown anytime where that
gets you to 5x maybe, maybe,maybe.
Not all right, I'm gonna say49ers, win anyone like this is
where this is where Phil wouldask if he could take the points

(01:12:10):
and I think we would tell him no, cuz.
14 and a half is just crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
It's yeah, you can't yeah you can't bet the Niners
will cover the two.
Those 13 and a half.
Maybe you can because you getthat under the two touchdowns.
Yeah you can't at 14, likethat's just even at 13 and a
half, you're not doing it cuz.
Even throw up like 35 to youknow 17, they could score a
touchdown at the end like youscrewed yeah all right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Next up we have Sunday night football.
We have the 2-in-1 Kansas CityChiefs traveling to New York to
take on the 1-and-2 Jets.
The line is 42 and a half, orthe total is 42 and a half
Kansas City's favored by 9 and ahalf.
Jordan has a start in this game, but before we get into that,
taylor Swift will be inattendance, just so you know.

(01:12:57):
So all those, all those newSwifty listeners we have
inherited, thank you, and allthose people that have bought
all those Travis Kelsey jerseysSeth, I think, phil, you know
he's a big Taylor Swift guy.
I think he finally, you know hewas so happy that Taylor Swift
made Travis Kelsey relevant.
So all that stuff is prettycrazy, all that stuff with
Taylor Swift, and we've talkedabout her far too much on this
pod.
So I'm so sorry, jordan, who isyour start in this game?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
yeah.
So I got breeze Halls a start.
I know he's a dog, a 10double-digit dog, which I don't
love, but he is at home and thisis kind of like an opportunity
thing.
He's starting to play moreplays most snaps of the season
last week, 50% compared to 25.
Compared to his teammatesDalvin Cook, my Michael Carter,

(01:13:44):
both played 25% each, so highestsnap percentage of the other
season so far the Chiefs are abottom 10 run defense.
According to pff it's a neutralo-line, d-line matchup for the
Jets, so that should help therun game.
At least it's neutral, it's.
Kansas City gave up over ahundred yards rushing to the

(01:14:04):
Detroit running bass combinedand gives in Montgomery week one
, week two they were goodagainst the run against the
Jaguars, and then week threethey play the Bears.
I'm not taking anything out ofthat game.
Zach Wilson is really bad.
I think the Jets are gonna tryto get breeze Hall involved a

(01:14:26):
lot more this week and I thinkthat just means his roles
increasing.
Did you see the what the Chiefslinebacker, really gay, said?
I didn't.
I didn't see it, they said.
They said like, what, whattrouble?
Or what does Zach Wilson likeconcern?
You guys like, what do youthink their passing tag looks?
Any?

(01:14:46):
He laughed like he literallypaused, chuckled and then said
um, it looked like a team whowants to run the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Yeah, well, and you see all this stuff like the
locker rooms kind of in shamblesright now.
I don't know if you've heardabout that, but the jets the
jets defense is saying if weplayed this bad We'd get benched
by.
You say la, and you're lettinghim play this bad.
Joe Namath came out and saidthat you know Zach Wilson needs
to go.
So it's looking like the right,it looks like say was gonna

(01:15:17):
lose the locker room if hedoesn't make a decision.
And that's why I think Stevesaid he's tempted to play Devon
a chan over Garrett Wilson, ashard as that is to do unless
they end up putting in a backupthat just can get him the ball a
little bit better.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Talent so bad, but no Mike whites in Miami now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Yeah, Hmm, they did bring in it.
They did bring in a backup.
Who's the back?

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Yeah, trimerson me and it was it.
Yeah, no, I just I think I likebreeze hall.
He's explosive he.
I think he's starting to getthe fact that he played.
His snaps are increasing.
I think this is a good spot forbreeze and I think it'd be a
top 20 running back this week.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Okay, okay, so I have , I, I'm gonna go with chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Anyone taking the jets All right Monday night
football, last game on the slatemake sure to stay for our
underdog draft to close out thisshow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
We have the Seattle Seahawks, who are two and one,
traveling to New York Giants,who are one and two, and we have
what?
Two prime time games in NewYork, again with that terrible
turf.
I don't like that.
Last Monday was the firstMonday that we didn't have a
huge injury in a while on Mondaynight football.
You know there's that Mondaynight football curse.
People been talking aboutTotals 46 and a half.
New York Giants are favored byone and a half.

(01:16:38):
We have no starts.
We have no sits.
I like Seattle wide receiversin this game.
I don't know who you reallywant to play on the New York
side of the ball, jordan, butwhat, what are you, what are
your guys's thoughts on this?
I think Daniel Jones is gonnahave a good game.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
I think he's gonna be able to run the ball, run the
run around.
I mean, he hasn't really donethat as much as we thought he
was going to on the year, but Ithink he will this game and I
think that's just gonna.
I honestly I don't know what.
Who's gonna be the guy in thepassing game.

(01:17:12):
Maybe it's gonna be you know,I'm a blanket on his name the
tight end, I think, waller isgonna have a decent game it
might be, any of the receivers,or all the receivers, will be
able to play.
The Seahawks defense is nottheir passing defense is not
that good.
I, however, I think Jamal Adamsmight be coming back this week,

(01:17:34):
so that's something to thinkabout too.
Yeah, no, I agree, I think it'sa really good.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
You mentioned Kenneth Walker, seth.
No, I didn't.
No, I think Kenneth Walker isin a really good spot.
Here we saw what the Niners didit To them last week.
We saw the Niners Did it tothem last week.
We saw what the Cowboys did aweek one.
Who'd they play?
Oh, the Cardinals.
James Connor was really goodagainst them.
So I ain't a Kenneth Walkersmash week here.

(01:18:04):
And then I agree like it's.
I think Daniel Jones has abounce back.
Bounce back spot for DanielJones here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Okay, I'm gonna say Seattle wins this game.
I think you can play TylerLockett if you have to you can
play all receivers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I would On to Trent's point.
I'm not too sure about JSN justyet, but this could be the game
where he does it, could it?
No, it definitely could,definitely could.
I would just stay away, though,if you, when is there by?
This is my prediction for JSNguys.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
I think JSN goes off week six the week after the bye
week.
Okay, so he has a bye weekafter this game.
There's potential that someonedrops a rookie wide receiver
that hasn't been doing anythingWeek five by and you pick them
up week six If he doesn't doanything this Monday night.
There's potential people getimpatient with the rookies.
So that's just my point on thatright there.
That was kind of my argument atthe beginning of the year.

(01:18:54):
He could go off though onMonday night football.
It's a good matchup.
I'm hoping he doesn't.
I'm hoping I can find him inwaivers for week six To pick up.
So I'm gonna say Seattle wins.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
I got the Giants winning this game, but also we
need Scores, totals, you'reright.
Total score points.
I am going for a score points.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
I am going to say that the Seahawks win 31 24.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Okay, we just need the total score.
Sorry, what my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I'm used to doing.
Okay, I'm gonna say this gamehas, uh, 48 points Is it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
What's the total?
46 and a half 46 and a half 48.
Hmm, I'm gonna go.
Let's do 44.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Okay, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
and jordan I'm gonna go 43.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Okay, perfect, all right, well, hey guys.
Thanks for tuning in.
Now let's get over to ourunderdog draft set.
Are you ready for that?
I think we're waiting on you.
Oh yeah, and while we're waitingon that, I will recap all the
starts and sits that we had thisweek.
My starts were josh jacob's,javonte, williams, jordans
Starts were brice hall, terrymclauren, seth.
Starts for zakmos and adamthielen.

(01:20:18):
The sits I had ravens runningbacks and nico collins.
Jordan had james connor, mikeevans, seth had joe mixon and
mark Andrews.
So that is what we have Rightthere for all of our starts and
sits.
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(01:20:38):
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It's fun, but we're gonna startthis draft here shortly and uh,

(01:21:02):
yeah, just wanted to let youknow about that.
Uh, yeah, so let's, uh, we'relooking at this here, jordan,
and this is a snake draft onunderdog.
Remember to use promo code,dudes.
They'll match up to a hundreddollars.
It's a lot of fun, guys.
They got other stuff besidesjust drafts, though, so coming
up first.
I am on the clock here, guys,and I think I have to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
The main slate for sunday main, sunday late, not 6
30 aim game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
All right, so no jacks.
Okay, I'm gonna go withchristian mccaffrey versus the
cardinals with the 101 pick.
Uh, seth is now on the clock,and what do you?
Got here so?

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
you go.
I'm embarrassed, I'm takingjust jesson.
I'm embarrassed to say I don'tknow if anybody maybe I'm not
embarrassed.
I did do one of these draftsearlier today.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Okay, that's not bearish I like the team I picked
.
Okay, so jordan's on the clockand you can play a quarterback,
a couple running backs, widereceivers or a tight end.
You don't, and uh, so what doyou got?

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
here, jordan.
See, that's who I was thinkingabout taking, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Jordan, I'm not hearing you right now.
I don't know if you're muted.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Yeah, I got jamar chase.
Sorry, I accidentally clickedthe mute button.
Jamar chase wide receiver, oneon the week.
And then I have, uh, I'm gonnatake tyreek, tyreek too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Oh nice, very nice.
That's a nice stack right therewhat?

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
do you got here seth Key to the volume.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
All right, I'm up.
I think I'm gonna go with uhthe squeaky wheel.
I'm gonna go davante atoms.
And then who do I want to takehere?
I'm gonna go, uh stefan digs.
So I took pollard and digs, oratoms and digs right there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
So seth is on my clock, I'm gonna get my running
back here and I know I thinkeckler is gonna play, so I'm
gonna drop to eckler.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Get see, get see here up jordan.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
I'm gonna grab uh tony pollard here and then I
don't love it, but I'll justtake out aj brown here.
I like that.
Three receiver with aj brown,aj brown, tyreek uh chase.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
I'm taking the best quarterback on the board right
now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
All right, you took josh allen.
What do I have here?
I got atoms and digs.
I don't think I want to stackany quarterbacks because I'm not
gonna play.
Uh, whoever the raidersquarterback is.
Uh, I am gonna go with.
I'm gonna go with uh tjhawkinson Tightened one on the

(01:23:39):
season, and then I'm gonna comeback with.
Uh, I'm gonna go with cd lamb.
So seth is on the clock here.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
So I'm gonna go with my start of the week in zack
moss.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Okay, what do you got here, jordan, to close this
puppy up?

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Is this our last two picks here?
Oh man, yeah, I'm gonna go, uhshoot, I'm gonna put my money
where my mouth is.
I'm gonna play joe burrow overjalen hurts and I am going to
finish out with that's tough,it's tight and it's rough here.

(01:24:22):
I'm just gonna you know, I know, set, that you have mark enters
to sit.
I'm just gonna hold that maybemaybe you're wrong here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Well, I'm hoping I'm me, I'm wrong, but I think
george kiddo is gonna have akiller game.
Oh, that was a.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
that was a great pick for that, where you got him
last pick in the draft.
I'm surprised.
I'm gonna go with justinherbert here, all right, and
perjury.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
The point is, jalen hurts didn't get drafted in this
draft.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Yeah, yeah, I Jordan.
Do you have the results?
Do you have the results on?

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
I'd exit it out.
If someone wants to sayeverybody's team real quick,
yeah.
So uh, trend has a trend has aprojection of 94.9.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Set of a projection 92.4.
I have a projection of 90.7.
I think if I take hurts I'mprobably projecting number one.
Um, but I just gonna put mymoney where my mouth is on
burrow.
I think he has a great weekthis week.
So, um, yeah, that's uh.
Do we need to?
You want to go over the teamsreal quick again, trent?
Yeah, just say everybody'spicks real quick if you want to

(01:25:24):
go through me, I'm there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Okay, so Trent you guys.
Um Herbert, uh, macafe davantestefan dig cd lamb, tj hawkinson
.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
Seth has josh allen, austin eckler, zack moss, justin
jefferson, keenan allen andgeorge kiddle, and then I have
joe burrow, tony pollard, jamarchase, tyree keel, aj brown,
mark andrews.
Um, obviously all these teamslook great because it's a three
person draft, so absolutelythey're fun.
All right, guys, I'm actuallywhat's funny is that I'm not

(01:25:54):
gonna be a good player.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
All right, guys, I'm actually.
What's funny is I meant to pickjail and hurts and I picked
josh allen on accident.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
You did say best quarterback in the board and I
was like Okay yeah, I did notmean to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
All right.
Well, hey, don't make a mistake.
Like seth guys, go to underdog.
Draft your teams, right?
You know, don't pick the wrongguy.
We will see you next time and,as always, we'll see you on
monday.
And, as always, take care.

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