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April 30, 2025 33 mins

In this episode, Mark Ledlow and Dr. Rob McKenna, a psychology expert and leader of WiLD Leaders. They discuss leadership, trust, and development across generations. Dr. McKenna highlights the importance of clear metrics, inspired by his gaming experience, to motivate and manage the younger workforce. The conversation covers the necessity of trust in organizations, the impact of emotional maturity on leadership, and the challenge of managing cultural polarization. McKenna emphasizes the importance of intentional development and strategic goal-setting to foster a productive and harmonious workplace.

Learn about all this and more in this episode of The Fearless Mindset Podcast.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Intentional Leadership Development: Organizations must focus on developing leaders intentionally through measurable goals and systems.
  • Trust and Measurement: Trust is foundational for organizational performance, revealed through consistent and transparent metrics.
  • Conflict Management: Effective conflict management is crucial for innovation and team cohesion, requiring both clarity and empathy from leaders.
  • Succession Planning: Preparing for succession should be part of a long-term leadership development strategy, rather than a desperate last-minute solution.
  • Gaming Insights: Insights from gaming, such as metrics and motivation strategies, can be applied to organizational development to enhance performance.

QUOTES

  • "Trust is something we have to continue to work at day after day after day."
  • "You can't make everybody happy without lying to somebody.
  • "Succession planning is leadership development after you've become desperate."
  • "When trust is present, it's like a natural lubricant, but it takes maintenance."

Get to know more about Dr. Rob McKenna through the link below.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/drrobmckenna

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