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October 13, 2025 33 mins

In this episode, host Mark Ledlow welcomes long-time friend and retired body agent, John Fisher, to discuss recent events, including the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The conversation delves into the complexities of security protocols, the challenges of open-air venues, and the nuances of adapting to different geographical and political climates. John shares his experiences from his extensive background in law enforcement and protective services, emphasizing the importance of communication and constant learning. This episode provides an in-depth look at how tragic events shape the future approach to security in both private and public sectors.

Learn about all this and more in this episode of The Fearless Mindset Podcast.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Security for high-profile events must constantly adapt, especially after incidents like the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the attempted attack on President Trump.
  • Communication and coordination between private and government security teams are critical; miscommunication can lead to vulnerabilities.
  • The use of technology, such as drones and aerial surveillance, is increasingly important for event security, but access to these resources can vary.
  • The executive protection industry is highly competitive and requires ongoing learning, adaptability, and respect for local cultures and laws.
  • Free speech and peaceful debate are essential, but the current climate can lead to increased risks and challenges for public figures and event organizers.

QUOTES

  • "They only have to get it right once, we have to get it right all the time."
  • "Communication is so invaluable in these situations."
  • "You have to be able to adjust the way you approach people geographically throughout the nation."
  • "There's more than one way to skin a cat... that's why it's important in our line of work to sit down afterwards and have an AAR to see what went good, what went bad, and how can we make things better."
  • "He was just reciting facts, whether it be law, whether it be biblical, it's been written down... and it was very interesting and you can learn a lot from that."
  • "Let her be, she has her right to express her feelings. Did she do it the right way? No. But no harm, no foul. I wasn't injured. Let's move on with what we are, what we came here to do."

Get to know more about John Fisher through the links below.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-fisher-14a26124/

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