Liu Gross on Mind and Body Training, and Business

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now there's nothing else that I wanna be doing, with

(00:04):
my life. Like, there may be someiterations of it here and there,
but the ability to begin be apart of somebody's better. Like,
yeah. When am I yeah. Let's doit.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. What's going on,
Eagles? Welcome to the Fuel HuntShow. Today, Drew and I are
joined by a special guest. Iwanna say double o g, maybe even
triple o g of the the Fuel Huntcommunity, Liu Gross.
He's a coach hailing fromChicago. Right?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Fun fact. This isn't the first time that we did a
podcast episode together. Had,don't Drew, what was that? 2021,
was it? '22?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Maybe even before that. I don't know. Yeah. Feel
like it was blurred at thispoint.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Feel like it was Yeah. It was it was a while ago.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
It was a while ago. So we actually This is the first
time I think we've ever spokenabout this on the show. We had a
a bit of a I don't wanna call ita false start, but we started
the Fuel Hunt show many yearsago, recorded a handful of
episodes, maybe like four. Oneof them was with Liu and things
just got super crazy. That waslike the year where Fuel Hunt

(01:21):
took off like a rocket and werealized that we bit off way
more than we could chew.
So we put a pause on the show.The pause was a long pause
because it didn't come backuntil last year. So it was a
pause of a couple of years, buthere we are now. We're back. We
got you back.
Excited

Speaker 1 (01:38):
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's virtual, but that's okay because we're gonna
do part two in person.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What's the what's the phrase like? Set it down, and if
it comes back to you, meant tobe?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Come on

Speaker 3 (01:48):
now. A little pause.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Pause. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Back. When we never left, man. Back when we never
So, you are a you are a coach.There are multiple dimensions to
your coaching, I would assume,just because of how the what I
see from you on social media andwhat I know of you. Right?
So, you are coaching in the mindand body. Is that is that a good

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way to put it or what?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
That is that is very, very accurate. I would actually,
yes, that is the proper order.Yeah. I do remember one of my
very, very first post on IG,which was like a thousand
million ago was if I if if allyou come away with is like a
great pair of abs or PR, thenI've I've failed you. So, yes,

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mindset and then everything elseafter that is the goal at Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've been, I've been a fan of the tools for
toughness. I don't know. Is thatsegment still around on your

Speaker 1 (02:47):
It is. I'm trying to fine tune the brandy behind but
if you see my face, I'm probablysaying something like this on my
heart. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I love it. I love seeing your content. I think one
of the tools for toughness, myfavorite, I think it was
probably a couple of years ago.It was you the middle of the
night. Well, I can't say in themiddle of night, maybe it was
like 10:00, ten thirty, Right.
Maybe in the snow?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
It was in the snow,

Speaker 1 (03:18):
but there were a couple.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Was one in

Speaker 1 (03:20):
the snow, there was one in the rain. Yeah. Yeah. Was
one in snow and one in the rain.Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah. It's such a simple message. Like, hey, I'm
out here doing this because I,this is the last thing I wanna
do, basically.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think that was the message. That was the rain. That
was a it was a

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh, okay. I gotcha.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
If anyone asks, you tell them it was a monsoon. But
nonetheless, was torrentialdownpour and that was the
thought process. It was I don'twanna be out here. I got
comfortable. So, you know, youfind the things that make you
uncomfortable so you can that'sthe ones you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah. For sure. Yeah. That's how my brain works.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm more here for, Lee's fun content. That was your
weekend content.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Look. We'll get we'll get to we'll get to No. That? Is
this or that still around?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah. All of it's here. Here's the thing. You know
what I found? You know what Ifound?
And this is a testament toYouTube. Yeah. People who are
building things and have theirhead down and they're grinding
don't know what's going on onsilly social media. Like,
everything you're talking about,I'm still doing, but you're
still building you're still busybuilding this thing. So you're
like, you don't you don't evenknow what TV show is on.

(04:28):
Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
You don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You're just out here working, you know, giving to the
masses.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
So That's so true to say that. My Yeah. My one
friend, he's a good great friendof mine, Colin. Also an
entrepreneur out there building.And we only talk every once in a
while, but he's like, you know,every time you call, I'm never
mad that we haven't talked in awhile.
I just know you're out theredoing things. And he said that
the one time, and I was I waslike, wow. That's actually,
like, such a profound thing tosay because the small minded

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people that are out there doingare, like, you haven't effing
called me in three weeks. Like,are we still friends? I was
like, sorry, dude.
Like, I have a lot

Speaker 1 (05:04):
of People People that move with a purpose don't judge
other people that move with apurpose.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You go I'll I'll see you at the end. I'll see you at
the top.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Exactly. Or call call me when need me.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah. You yeah. Even better. Oh, even better.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 1 (05:21):
that's so good. So there's a, I recently was
watching, I figured I waswatching, but they brought up
the point that everybody hasthose friends or those people in
their life where something goeswrong and you call them and you
can trust them and that's great.But the people you can probably

(05:42):
call and tell and say, Hey, I'mdoing this really amazing
podcast with this really goodgroup called Free Will Hunt. And
they go, that's awesome. You candeliver good news to is probably
a smaller number, which meansthey might potentially be a
little more valuable.
So I really love your homeboy.Call me if you need me. What you

(06:02):
need? Tell me.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
I got you. I

Speaker 1 (06:04):
you. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah. That's the thing. Like, I'm not you know, I
I'm catching I'm catching someof your content. You know what I
mean? But I'm not I'm not onthere all that often.
So that's why I'm saying, like,is this still going on? I'm
going through the greatest hits,man.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
But that's the thing. Like, Lee knows we're always
rooting for him.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know

Speaker 3 (06:19):
what I mean? Like, we don't need to like, he
definitely consuming every bitof his content. This is we
wouldn't expect him to consumeevery bit of ours.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Hey, Jack. Oh, no. No. I know everything about you.
Yeah.
No. Please, like, please, like,I

Speaker 3 (06:31):
knew Joey. These kids were eating five and he has a
new dog.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
If you if you if if I turn on myscreen, what your face is. Don't
don't tell anybody. I'm notobsessed at all. It's all good.
We're all awesome.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Only, you know, a few thousand people are gonna listen
to this. Your secret's safe withus, man.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Okay, all right. All right.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Your secret's safe with us. So take us back, man.
So how did you get involved withcoaching? I may know some of
these answers from our previouspodcast. I have a mind like an
elephant.
You know, it's like a bear trap,but, tell the community. You
know, how'd you get intocoaching? And, you know, what
was that journey like you?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah. Well, I grew up doing a bunch of, in my adult
life, I should say a bunch ofmanual labor jobs. Loved it.
Being active, all that stuffreally, really great. Also being
in the gym, and while I was inthe gym, fell in love with it.
You know, you're moving, you'rehitting stuff, you're lifting
stuff. And I was like, thissounds like fun. I think I can
do a really good job at this inmy life. So how do I go about

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making money off this? And I waslike, maybe I should I wanna
start training athletes becauseI just watched an NFL combine.
And I was like, oh, yeah. Iwanna train those people. You
know? Because obviously, youshave off point five on a 40,
and that's an extra bit ofmillions of dollars or draft you
go up and I'll take thatpercentage off. Great.

(07:57):
No problem. That's for me. But Iwas like, I should probably get
started training individuals whodon't make money off their body.
Gen population, me, you,everybody else. So I started
there, and I absolutely fell inlove with general pop.
I fell in love with it. Thethought process of still

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training individuals like theathletes that they are, that
stuck. But the thing that got mewas you could get somebody to
come in, a guy who's I don'tknow. Let's just say he would
maybe not the most secure ofhimself, or he's probably not
gonna wear some super fittedshirt like my my. So but he
comes in with his T shirt in,and we're working and we're
laughing and we're joining thiscompany and we're still working.

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And then the next month he comesin, oh, look, he's got a cutoff
sleeve shirt on. You don't saynothing yet. Not

Speaker 2 (08:48):
yet. Not yet.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Just keep going.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Let it let it come.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Let come. It I see it. See it. And the next thing
you know, he's in this full ontanking. He'd be like, he's
gonna swim like that today?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
He's gonna

Speaker 1 (09:01):
go ahead and just let the arms hang out? He's like,
oh, man. Oh, no. And it's goodto see that person build from
there to there to there. Being apart of something like that is
once you have it

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Once I had it, it was impossible to let that go.
Athletes, they've always beenathletes for the most part.
Right? They know how to run.They know how to jump.
They've been some version of alimelight. They've been very
good at something for a verylong time. So to be a part of
someone's journey to making thembetter, done. Never going back.

(09:36):
Found my calling.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You're in good company because we feel the same
way about what we do and how ourcommunity operates and supports
each other to do basically thesame thing. You mentioned manual
labor jobs. Type of manual I'mcurious because I've got manual
labor in my background too. Sowhat type of manual labor jobs?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I was always at the Home Depot Pro Desk. That was
the bulk of it for a lot ofyears. To those who don't know
what that is, the Home Depot ProDesk is where say if you're
building a deck or you're gonnado a large project, you go
there, put your order in,somebody like me will put all of

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the sheetrock and plywood andblah, blah, blah on a pallet,
load it on a truck at like twoin the morning so the truck can
leave at three or four and be onthe job site when you're ready
to work. So it's just runningthrough the warehouse and doing
all that fun stuff. Yeah.
That's that was a workout all initself.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, of course. Absolutely. When did you start
personal training? Long have youbeen training personal training?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I really wish I had that solid, a put in calendar
date. It's probably beensomewhere around, I keep saying
twenty years, so by now it'sprobably twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah. I wanted to make sure. I knew it was I knew
it was quite a long time, quitea lot of experience. I wanted to
make sure I got that out therefor the kids Oh, yeah. For the
community.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
One question for the community, though, Liam. I know
a lot of people are maybeworking a job like a Home Depot,
pro desk that are looking to,say, become full time personal
trainer. So when you were in theprocess of chasing your dream of
becoming a personal trainer, didyou did you quit Home Depot and
say, I'm gonna go all in onthis? Or did you slowly build a

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client clientele and build thatbook of business until you can
make that switch, like, sidehustle it?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I think everybody's journey is different. So
anything I say today, it's justwhat worked for me, or or or
what didn't work for me. Right?Which are the best lessons. So I
went all in.
I wound up just diving right in.I found a gym that would hire
me, give me coaching andmentorship so I could be the

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best for myself. But I still hada good bill of knowledge, but I
left the left the left the HomeDepot fun racket behind me.
Cord.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Cut the cord, man. I love

Speaker 1 (12:12):
that. Yeah. Yeah. Love it.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
It was it was it was

Speaker 1 (12:14):
a phenomenal job. I would wouldn't change it for the
world, but I'm winning rightnow.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
And how was that when you first started? Was it like
kind of a grind getting yourbook of business together or
they give you customers?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Part of it was giving, but I'm when I'm
passionate about something, I'mgonna dive all in. Not to
mention when you don't haveanother option, sometimes you
tend to dive all in, it's gonnawork. I've lived at the gym, so
I worked out at the gym. Iobviously worked there. I slept

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there.
I ate there. I had maildelivered there. So people were
there seeing me all the time. Sothat's the first rule of
business. Right?
Get your face in front of peopleno matter what.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
That was my end. I oh my god. I was I wound up
hustling so hard. I I just hadthis conversation with somebody
about two days ago of how if Ihad thirty minutes in between a
session and, like, I work out, Ihad thirty minutes for the next
one, I would take my lunch, mylittle baggie of lunch, like a
carrots or a sandwich, Shower.I'd be in the shower.

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I would poke my sandwich bag andcure it to whatever it is on
like the soaker spencer. I'dbust out a little soap, eat my
sandwich, put it back. Just so Icould still get my workout in

Speaker 3 (13:39):
and still have time

Speaker 1 (13:40):
for all those sessions.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I don't know. Was if that's a sanitary
recommendation. I don't know ifthat's a that's a Lee
recommendation. It

Speaker 2 (13:49):
sounds it sounds very efficient to me, and it sounds
like something I might try.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I might try. There we go. I might try. That was that
was so efficient. I was probablythat was that was when you're,
like, your first dive in.
Like, you make yourselfavailable anytime at all times.
And I mean, listen. It's not thehardest thing in the world, but
you do what you gotta do. Do Iwanna sit down and eat my lunch?
I'd love to, but I'd also loveto go train these people even

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more so.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's I feel like the difference between people
like like us out there doingthings. There we really there's
no way it won't work out becausewe spend every waking second of
our lives doing it, thinkingabout it thinking about it,
thinking about how we can do itbetter, doing it more. And
people are oh, I'm I'm doingthis, it's not working out. I'm
like, well, to be honest,without even hearing anything, I
can tell you're probably notworking hard enough.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
You know what? I actually have a question for you
all.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Oh, hit us.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Talked to a mentor one time and I asked him what
was his hardest challenge andwhatever he did. And he said
connecting with people becausehe doesn't believe, and now I
don't believe in necessarilywork life balance because when
you're so passionate aboutsomething, it's hard to turn
your brain off about how do Imake Humble Hunt better? How do
I do it when that's that's it'sit's your love. So how do you

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all connect with two kids andgirl and family when your brain
is still just always going onit. But you're supposed to be at
Disneyland, but you're supposedto be you know?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I would say that's the big the biggest challenge of
my life is remaining present, tobe honest. Like and I I've focus
on meditation are, like, a hugepractice of my life now because
they have they have be. Like,I'll go crazy if I don't spend
time in my thoughts just, like,being where my feet are, but I
do it's a constant trigger in mymind. Like, okay. You're getting

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too far away from where youactually are at the moment.
Need to come back. You know whatI mean? Especially on time when
things are hard. You know whatmean? Because it's not always
easy.
It's not always, like, how arewe gonna make the next million
or something? You know I mean?It's like

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
It's like, how do we fucking get out of this hole
we're in? And, that's when it'swhen you really get distracted
because it's like you're in,like, a scarcity mode rather
than abundance mode.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah. It's it's I would agree. It's about whoever
your mentor was that you'respeaking with, I understand
where she or he is coming frombecause it's my biggest
challenge too, really. I do twothings. One came from Bea
actually, a visualization thatBedros shared with us like many

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years ago.
When I leave, I like to work inthe office because that's a
boundary for me. Right? So,like, I'm here at HQ. When I
leave here, I do a littlevisualization once I get to my
driveway or I park on the streetof, like, armor falling off of
me. And that's the visualizationthat he uses too.
Like, okay. I'm about totransition, you know Yeah. From

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basically the battleground tosomewhat of a playground where I
have to go in and I to be light,I have to be fun, I have to be
loving. Not that I'm not thosethings, Drew will say, I am not,
but not that I'm not thosethings on the battleground, but
the two, you know, home and HQare very distinct places for And
I I'll be honest, I fail a lot.You know, I get consumed, I get

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consumed during the tryingtimes, you know, and I have to
readjust and sometimes I'll justhave to step away, take take a
breather.
You know, the classic breather,you know? Yeah. Just step away,
take a breather and bringmyself, you know, back to, like
Drew said, where my feet are.That's definitely this is the
hardest thing. Like, it's harderthan any business thing.

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Right, Drew? What'd you say?Like, anything in business, it's
it's it's even harder than that.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah. It's like a lot of times I spent thinking, like,
damn. Like, I don't want mylights to flash before my eyes,
and I'm here I am. I I'm havingI'm thinking about other things
than actually living. And Yeah.
Yeah. It was real I would saybefore because we're the thing
about us, people like us, thefew, we're always getting
better. Right? Like, we'recommitted that we're not we're
not perfect. Like, nothing I dois perfect.

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I don't think I'm better thananyone, but I know that I'm more
committed than anybody else. Weare more more committed than
anybody else to getting better,and we're always working to
improve it. So that's where Ireally give myself grace in the
sense of, like, okay, like, I'mgoing to get better at this.
Like, I'm not gonna be perfectat it, but

Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's a that's a good point. Giving yourself
grace and Yeah. Being in controlof how you're speaking to
yourself about the situation.Instead of saying, I'm terrible
at this, I'm a bad dad. Oh boy,I treated, you know, x y z in a
shitty way today.
You're saying, hey, look, I'mgonna give myself some grace
here. I'm getting better atthis. I'm committed to getting

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better at this. You know what Imean? That's it's very, very
important.
The visualization, real quick,the visualization was the first
thing. I mentioned the secondthing. The second thing is like
actually bringing, my familyinto my world here at HQ. So
have my daughters here todaywith me and, you know, I just
got done talking aboutboundaries, right? Well, this
this is where the boundariesblurred, you know?

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Now they're older now because,you know, they're eight and
five, right? So they can runaround and they got their
scooters here and they Tim gavethem from GoodWorks gave them
walkie talkies, so they'rerunning around. I got I some
prosciutto, some fruit here,they're helping themselves, you
But that's the other thing thatI'll do, like, you know, I'll
bring them, I'll bring them intothis world and that helps keep

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me grounded and it helps keep mefocused on the bigger vision.
You know what I Yeah. Of, youknow, making sure that my
family's protected and providedfor.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I can imagine they for sure understand what's
happening when you see, whenthis camera goes off, how how
you are as as dads and how youare as people and how important
it is to you that you know what?And and again, I've seen you all
via the social media. It's like,you got you got a good squad.
You got a good team.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Thanks, Leo. Yeah. I appreciate

Speaker 2 (19:55):
that, brother.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
My last thought on that too is, like, the first
three years at least were in thewarehouse was in my basement,
and I we looked at pictures theother day. I'm like, damn. Like,
my maybe the first few years ofParker's life were kind of a
blur because I was like, thegrind was so real that, like, I
wasn't I definitely wasn'tpresent, like, ever. And our

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whole lot like, our dinnerswould get stopped because the
UPS guy would show up. And welike, my whole life was it was
all one big like, people wouldcome into work.
Like, people I didn't even know,really, would come in my in my
basement to pack orders. Like,it was crazy, dude. So, like,
I'm I'm grateful now that we'vefinally been able to afford a

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warehouse

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Because that that was a lot. But Yeah. It was it was a
blur too.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
And that's I think I think those are the fond
memories.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh, yeah. Those are the

Speaker 1 (20:49):
those are the ones you look back on.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
You know? I got the the one time, like, I got my
first remember that, like, thefirst, like, desk down there? I
had the photo the photo booth,and I was like I I posted, like,
this is the dream. I just saidno at the time.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Now shit's hard.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's yeah. It's funny. Like as and probably,
Leo, it's the same for you. Asyou get further and further
along in your journey, yourealize what's important and the
the trivial things start to fallaway and it's kind of like an
addition by subtraction thing,right? Like, you know what I
mean?
You know what's important toyou. Like for me, it's like
family, if you will huntjujitsu, right? And like

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everything else kind of justlike falls away. Yeah. You know,
and that helps me be present,right?
And that helps me be where myfeet are because I don't gotta
worry about a bunch of othershit. Yeah. Now, I miss some of
those things? Like, do I misshockey games and, you know, do I
miss going to baseball games andstuff? I do.
Now it's just not the season forthat. Like that'll be back

(21:47):
eventually. You know what

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
For for now, it's those three things and that
helps me stay present and, youknow,

Speaker 3 (21:54):
that's that. Feel so I feel so sorry for people that
are trapped in the modern daysocietal world where you're
getting caught up in all thedrama and the gossip with
celebrities and stuff nowadays.It's like, do you not have
enough to worry about thatyou're so caught or you're

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clearly not chasing a big enoughgoal or purpose that your
emotions are affected bycelebrity drama or personal
drama. You know what mean? Likesomeone will come to me with
something, that literallydoesn't matter to me.
Like I just cannot my brainspace could not be taken up by
something of such a trivialmatter. Like Joey said, when you
realize what's important, youstop caring. It's an easy way to

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stop caring or getting affected.My sister Brianna will be like,
how do not how does that notbother you?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I'm just It's like

Speaker 3 (22:46):
got stuff going on, man. I got stuff going And

Speaker 2 (22:48):
we're like it's so crazy because, like, we're
caring people. We all are. Like,the few generally are very
caring people. Yeah. So it feelsweird to me to say that, like, I
don't care.
I think it's just, like, I caremuch less. I don't know if that
sounds any better, but I justcare, like, much, much less.
Like, all my caring muscles

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Mhmm.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Are focused on, like, three things. You know what I
mean? And that's that. Like,the, you know, the major muscle
groups are all focused on thosethree things and my carrying
muscles. Yeah.
But wow. A great question, man.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
No. I think you said it really well where if you have
that thing you focus on whatsomeone told me was like a a a
beacon, a lighthouse. Mhmm. Alighthouse. Your your purpose,
your why, your reason is like alighthouse.
If your lighthouse is onedirection and well, you start
going off over here, nope.That's not gonna get me here.

(23:41):
Are you are you going to is thisgoing to is this event, this
thing going to help me get towhere I want to go, which is
that lighthouse? It is not.Well, why would I go that
direction?
Why I do that? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
For sure. For sure, man.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Family yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Well, I just wanted to bring it back to you for a
sec. So when you were startingout and you had those crazy that
crazy schedule, was it always aupward an upward trajectory, or
was there any rocky points inbuilding your your your personal
training business, or was italways steady slow and steady or

(24:18):
rocket ship and steady? I mean

Speaker 1 (24:20):
It was a steady grind, but a very, very good one
because I don't know if I knewit then, but I can easily say
now there's nothing else that Iwanna be doing with my life.
Like, there may be someiterations of it here and there,

(24:43):
but the ability to begin be apart of somebody's better. Like
Yeah. Yeah. When am I?
Yeah. Let's do it. You wantanother session? What time do
you wanna meet? Five?
Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
K.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
You're gonna show up? Of course you will. Let's do it.
Like, what yeah. It's it's and Ithink that's really good.
That's really good. I've beenthinking recently about my
clients and the people I workwith know that I care. So it
makes it easier for the businessto grow. I think it's

(25:21):
challenging sometimes where ifyou see somebody like what's how
do put this? Your family, ourfriends obviously know they care
about us or we care about them.
How? Well, we show up, we gotour armor off. So we're in front
of them there. We're smiling.We're enjoying we're listening
to their stories.
We're present. We've done allthis stuff. Well, how do my

(25:43):
clients know? Oh, I'm sorry. Isure you show up prepared.
Hey, babe. You're supposed topick this milk up on the way
home. Ah, you didn't forget.Love it. You were there.
You were there for me, and Ineed you. I've always wondered
how clients know that you careabout them because you do. I
mean, it's a people business, orhopefully you do. You gotta

(26:04):
kinda like people to be in thepeople business. It's very
helpful.
Yeah. It's not a requirement,but it's really, really helpful.
Yeah. Really helpful. And Ithink no one is ever going to
question whether I care abouttheir success or not.
Just it it just works out well.I just happen to be in the

(26:25):
personality that's, hey. What'sgoing on? How are you doing?
Let's do this.
It works well for I totallyunderstand that's not
everybody's personality. Itotally understand that. But
obviously, you can still giveoff the I am here for you energy
without being, you know

Speaker 2 (26:43):
that was was that always your personality? Like,
you have great energy, which Ithink you know. But was that
always your was that always yourpersonality? Or is that
something that being in the gamethis long has given you? Like,
did you did you show up this wayon week one of your coaching
business?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
You did. Did. I've I did. I one of the earliest
stories is my mom told me thatshe was crying for whatever
reason. And then for somereason, I did my best to make
her laugh.
And then later she found out Itold her I wanted to be a clown
for, as a as a living. Okay. Sowe're kind of So

Speaker 2 (27:26):
kind So you've you've always had the energy, you know,
this this is your yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah. Yeah. That's that's right. That's what I tell
you. When I found the thing thatwas just made for me, there's I
just show up and be energetic.
What do I? You're showing up.They're showing up walking in
the door to to be some versionof better. What am I complaining
about?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah. And that's it.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Gotcha. That's why it's not surprising that your
business has been a slow steadygrowth because I saw a video the
other day of some smart person,smarter than me, saying there's
there's, like, three differentlevels of intelligence. Like,
there's analytical intelligence,book intelligence, and there's
people intelligence. And itseems Yeah. As myself and you,

(28:12):
like, people intelligence is ourgift.
Right? I would agree. You'reclearly caring more about and
then this is a quote I've heard.I believe it was Hormozi, but I
I don't know who to credit. Butthe person that cares more about
the customer wins, and you'llalways out care your
competition.
Like, your workouts may be thesame as someone else's. I don't

(28:35):
believe they are. They'reprobably next level knowing your
your your

Speaker 2 (28:38):
From what I see.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Your dedication to your dedication to your craft
and the fact that you're just aa beast, but you always

Speaker 1 (28:47):
We try and have a good day.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
You always out carry your competition. That's
something we try and instillhere too. Like, if someone reach
we have our our crazy assguarantee. If someone reaches
out and they're like, hey. Myand please don't everyone who's
listening, take up take us up onthis, but they're like, someone
reached out the other day.
Was like, bought these shortstwo years ago, and they ripped
during training and, like, wesent them new ones.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know

Speaker 3 (29:08):
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
It's Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Absolutely. We're always gonna do right by our
people and I feel as thoughthat's what's really helped us
have the success we've had overthe past few years.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
It was always it was always about it was always about
people first. And I think thatespecially in our space and,
like, the apparel space, there'sa lot of, like, profit first.
Mhmm. And I get that, you know,it's a business and I get that,
but we were always people first.And I think that's why we've
survived and why we've grown andwhy

Speaker 3 (29:34):
we're

Speaker 2 (29:34):
here.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
It almost it almost fucked us at one point, though,
for lack of a better wordbecause

Speaker 1 (29:38):
It did. We were selling we were I don't know

Speaker 3 (29:40):
if you remember the days we were selling shirts,
like, $20, and they cost

Speaker 1 (29:43):
us 18. So Yeah. It did. It just I got work.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
We figured it out.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah. It doesn't it doesn't surprise me either. Go
ahead, Blair.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
No. No. I I'm listening to you fellas talk,
and I know in the middle of it,in the midst of it, it's it's
it's challenging hard is thewrong is not even the right
word. But, like, is thereanother way? Honestly?
Like, is if you're giving yourall to the people who you are,

(30:29):
you know, community you'retrying to grow and leave
legacies and all that fun stuff.Like, yeah, three years, take
these shorts. Absolutely. Andthen you can tell stories more
on and they know, hey, thisperson, oh no, I lean towards
giving it all. I've neverexperienced a time where giving

(30:50):
your all to your passion windsup being a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah. That's what I was going to mention. Like, no
surprise to me that you've had,I'm sure there were, you know,
some ups and downs here andthere or whatever, but pretty
much steady growth in yourcoaching business because it
doesn't just fit yourpersonality, it also fits your
passion, which I believe isserving people. Like, that's
what I get that's what I getfrom you that you're you're

(31:17):
really a servant leader and youjust happen to show up in the
arenas of mind and body. Right?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I try.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Your people, you know? Yeah. So not a not a
surprise. Not a surprise for meto hear that. Drew, sorry.
I kinda wanna think I cut youoff.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
No. No. I I had a follow-up question, but so, Leo,
say I'm coming to you. Is thereanything proprietary? Not that
that you wanna give away thesecrets, but if I come to you
and I'm like, I'm a 30 year oldbusinessman, moderate.
Yeah. Obvious. I I would say asyour boyfriend. High high level

(31:57):
jiu jitsu practitioner.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah. Right. But does everyone get a similar
framework, or is it all tailoredto I mean, I guess it might be a
dumb question, but, like, totheir specific goals and skill
set, or does everyone kind offollow a similar framework as

(32:20):
far as the working out?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Not you. The only thing that winds up being
similar is I am going to treatthem and train them like
athletes. Aside from that,everybody's goals are different,
which means everybody's trainingis different. Now to be clear,
nobody's reinventing the squat.There's no squat that's, you
know, better for this or betterfor that.

(32:43):
Like, also, not to mention, Iget a lot of train for the go
individuals. And by that, Imean, I think there are two
There's train for the show orthere's train for the go. The
show is I'm going to Vegas. Iwanna have some abs. Hey.
I'm getting married, and I wannalook good in my dress. Love
that. Phenomenal goal. Let's doit. The goal is I'm 30 and I

(33:09):
just joined the flag footballleague.
I wanna keep up with the 20 yearolds. The goal is I just had a
kid and I wanna, you know, beable to be a mobile and agile
for them. So I get a lot of, orgo is, I just wanna come in and
turn my brain off. I just wannamove. I just wanna feel good.
I just want these endorphins. SoI get a lot of the go
individuals. So it works outwell where those movements can

(33:32):
also kind of bleed together. NowI'll be clear, it's way more
thought out and way morestructured than that, but in a
general sense.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah. I get a lot of individuals who

Speaker 3 (33:42):
are the same.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean, you're kind of a go guy yourself, right?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I am

Speaker 2 (33:46):
a go Yeah, so that fits, right? You get a lot of
entrepreneurs as well?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, yes. I have a woman who owns a Vietnamese
coffee shop. Sorry, Vietnamesecoffee brand called Fat Milk
Lan. I checked

Speaker 2 (34:04):
her There

Speaker 1 (34:06):
is another woman. She is a chef. Chef, she has a
company called Pink She makesreally tasty sauces that go
inside of things. And I'mprobably butchering this, I'm so
sorry. But yeah, yeah.
She

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I got a lot of I her much on the go too.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's what I find the benefits of paying a coach
is, like, you can justespecially entrepreneur, a hard
charging busy person. Like yousaid, they can just come in. You
have the workout plan. You tellthem what to do, they can leave.
They don't have to put thoughtor effort into planning that.
Because when I was perprogramming my own stuff for a
while, I would just fall intodoing the the same stuff, and

(34:49):
and it's like, do I wanna do boxjumps today? Not really. No.
Even even someone who likes todo hard things, like, when it's
like, oh, I'm I gotta do this inthe middle of the day when,
like, I'm in the middle of work.Like, I'm not gonna do that.
You just you subconsciously, theinner bitch starts to take over.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I tell you what help go ahead.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You are you training quickly. Are you training only
in person? Are you coaching inperson only or online as well?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Currently, it's only person.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Okay. Only in person. Alright.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I I am trying to diversify my portfolio a little
bit.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yay. Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
But I am I have learned a while ago that I'm a
in person person. Now when COVIDhit, COVID was COVID was awful
because it's COVID. But COVIDwas a lesson for me where
everything I did was either in apark, which it worked out well,

(35:46):
or it was virtual andprofessionally I thrived. So I
know it wasn't as lucky for alot of people, but it gave me
the opportunity to kind of,well, figure it out.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Figure it out.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Figure it out and get kicked out of your apartment.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
So had

Speaker 1 (36:03):
a chance to, Fine. We figured it out.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah. Figured it out.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
So I I was I was virtual for a hot second there.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Okay. Alright. What that's around so that was
probably around the time that welinked up. Right? How did you
end up finding Fuel Hunt?
We

Speaker 1 (36:19):
kind of glossed over I'm so glad you asked that. For
the Fuel Hunt family, here'swhat I'll tell you. My spiel is
the same to anyone who everasked. I knew what you all stood
for Mhmm. Before I even knewwhat you sold.
Yeah. And it was Instagrambecause, you know, it's
Instagram. And that's what spoketo me is that I knew these these

(36:44):
these fellas, this companyactually, couldn't have fellas.
I know it was you guys. Mhmm.
This company this company issaying the things that I'm
thinking. And oh my god. Theythey make t shirts too? That's
cool. Maybe I'll go ahead andbuy a t shirt.
Oh, so quick little anecdotehere.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I'm so protective of the Fuel Hunt brand. First of
all, if I wear it in the gym,like, let's see. Hold on. Right
now, this is the

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah. At work.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't I can't put this shirt on
and be a half ass in the gym.It's impossible.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I love you said that.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
It's absolutely impossible. I have come across
people where like two peoplehave asked, hey, where'd you get
that shirt from? And I tellthem, the company, like, oh, no.
I kinda tell them about you allonly because, and I feel bad,
but I don't feel bad thatthey're not-

Speaker 3 (37:39):
One of the few. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's not that they're not the few. They're not and
they're not giving off anyindication that they want to be.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Mhmm.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
So I I can't have you just sleeping in this. Yeah. I
can't.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah. Upholding the standard, man.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I can't. Feel slightly bad, but at the same
time, principles are principles.I can't

Speaker 2 (38:03):
hear you. Bro, I have people write me all the time,
send me emails that that arebasically just like and
sometimes it, like, grinds mygears because they're self
sabotaging. I'm a selfsabotager. Like, I get that. You
know what I mean?
Sure. So they're like, I'm notworking hard enough. Meanwhile,
they're like ninety hour weeks,like, you know, parents, but,

(38:25):
you know? Yeah. But I have themright in all the time, and
they're just like, hey.
Look. Like, I'm lurking. Like, Ihaven't bought my first t shirt
yet because I wanna really meetthe standard. Oh. And I'm like,
you've already met the standard.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
You're there,

Speaker 2 (38:36):
bro. You're there. You're there. There you There's
a standard and it makes, it'svery clear, like someone will
not wear that t shirt unlessthey know they've done the

Speaker 1 (38:48):
work. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You know what I mean? Or they're doing the work, you
know? Yeah. So yeah. Don't don'tapologize, man.
You're upholding the standard.We appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's a testament I

Speaker 1 (38:57):
appreciate you all.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
To how bad our our marketing is because we we built
built Instagram community for afew for a a number of years
before anyone knew we sold Tshirts.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
So mhmm. But think it was the oh, no. It was the the
black screen with the printedwords.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Mhmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
There was a lot of those.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah. Well, that it still is. And that's our
struggle as a business too. Imean, we because, again, we're
nonprofit first. We don't like,it runs on the post T shirts all
day and say, hey.
Buy this. So we have to figureout just the right amount of
letting people know, like, hey.If you'd like to support us and
our brand and our mission andour movement, please spend your

(39:37):
money with us as well. But wewill continue to provide you
value, content, and communitybuilding, through our page as
well. So

Speaker 2 (39:45):
When, when some when when someone lands there, we
want them to see support andstrength primarily and then
selling. Like that's kind of theorder. And has that made it
difficult for us in businessover the years? Yes. But we
wouldn't change it.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Well, As a consumer, I will tell you, I have my
choice of spending money on a, Idon't know, 20 some dollar t
shirt or a 20 some dollar meal.I will value this shirt more.
Not that you have to wear itover and over again, but just

(40:21):
the fact that this thing speaksto who I am as a person, which
is super challenging, I think,to find stuff like that in life,
let alone, first of all, knowingwho you are as a person or what
your belief system is, and thenyou've pinpoint it. Oh, even
better, finding the people orthe thing that puts into words

(40:46):
what you couldn't put intowords. Mhmm.
Good job, fellas. Bless you.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Absolutely. Thanks, Leo.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Thank you, brother.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Two notes on that. At some point, Joey and I were
working multiple like, our dayjobs and people hunt, and the
needle was just not moving.Sales weren't coming in. We were
like, dude, what the hell? Wehave these amazing t shirts.
There's amazing content. OurInstagram is growing rapidly,
but the dollars aren't there.We're like and we're like, how

(41:13):
the hell are we ever gonna liveoff of this? Like, can do this
full time. And Joey said to me,he's like, do we have a blog or
a business?
Like, we have to figure out whatwe're doing. We have to actually
figure out how to make this workor we're gonna die doing it. But
my question to you, Leo, haveyou had any interactions with
people out in the wild that,obviously, you didn't know that

(41:38):
Mhmm. You you see them wearing afew hot, and you're like, yo.
Like, what's up?
You get it. Like, you're one ofus. Like

Speaker 1 (41:45):
There was two. Most people come up and go, hey. I
like your shirt or I like yoursweater or I like your hats or I
like your pants or like, I got alot of your stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Okay? I like

Speaker 1 (41:57):
your socks.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Like your socks.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Don't judge me. I like your briefs. Like your I
the socks too. Absolutely. Andthen I've had a few where I will
be out at gym.
There was only two actually. Iwas at a training workout event
and it was actually one of theguys who was an ambassador of

(42:20):
sorts. I'm blanking on his name,but he puts together really good
workouts. I wore one of thisshirt to and he was like, And I
was like, yo, I knew Irecognized you from somewhere.
Gosh.
Forgot the guy's name. But yeah,That yeah. And we Yeah. We're
kinda kicked it a little bit,but I want hopefully, we we get

(42:42):
us some more more interactionslike that out here.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's funny. I forget why I wanted to make this point.
Oh, because you were saying youdidn't know we were behind the
brand for Yeah. Becauseprobably, like, what, like, last
year, we started doing thepodcast and let people know it's
us. But I remember someone saidI went to my new jiu jitsu
school, and I was all kitted outin Fuwa Hunt.
And I rolled some some highlevel guy, and he's like he's

(43:09):
like, I thought he didn't know Iowned Fuwa Hunt, but he's like
what he found out, he was like,damn. He's like, I just thought
you were some, like, poser whostings at jujitsu where but has
all the nice gear.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
That it happened to me

Speaker 1 (43:24):
on Halloween. It it feel good. It starts

Speaker 2 (43:26):
somewhere. Wow. That's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Feel good. Yeah. It is.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
That's a real thing. That happened to me on
Halloween. I was taking thegirls out. We We were just going
around trick or treating and Ihad my, what tea did I have on?
I think I had, the We R tea anda guy stopped me and he was
like, like your shirt?
And usually when when they stopyou and say that, they know.
Like, they probably have one. Sohe's like, oh, like you know, I

(43:50):
like your shirt. He's like, Igot, like, 10 of them. I was
like,

Speaker 1 (43:54):
really? Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
He's like he's like, yeah. Yeah. I got you know, you
know, they give a, you know,magnet when you order your shirt
and I have the magnet on myfridge. And I was like, oh,
yeah. Like, I'm Joey.
Like, I'm a co owner of Fujohan.They're like, no way. You guys

Speaker 1 (44:07):
sent an

Speaker 2 (44:07):
email? So I'm like, yeah. It's me.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah. It's me. That's funny.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
That I told you about that happened in my jujitsu
school too. Another guy waslike,

Speaker 1 (44:13):
it was

Speaker 3 (44:14):
it was like his first day. He's like, oh, Fujohan. I
love those guys. I'm like, oh,they're shirts.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
That's cool. Sick, man.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I was like, say it.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah. Same same same, bro. Same, bro. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
We I you know, it's just like, you know, and we've
been awakened as the years havegone on, maybe if we were more
front and center earlier, itwould have maximized our impact
sooner, but it was just, itwasn't about It's still not
about us.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah. Yes. That's

Speaker 2 (44:44):
You know what I mean? That's why we And that's had no
desire

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Back to your point. Be

Speaker 2 (44:49):
front and center.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
It was we were out there doing shit. Yeah. Like, we
were head down every dayworking. The last thing we're
gonna do is flex on the gram, beand make it all about us. And we
still don't flex on the gram.
It's really this podcast, I feellike, is a perfect segue or
introduction for us to comelike, hey. This is the face
behind the brand. That'sawesome. Because we're also

(45:11):
connecting with people likeyourself that Mhmm. Are part of
the community, that people ofthe few one of the few that are
eating, sleeping, breathing, thethe few the rules of the few.
You know

Speaker 2 (45:23):
what I mean? Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
And the

Speaker 3 (45:24):
few want mindset.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah. I think it's a it's an amazing thing you all
are doing. Here, can I I'm gonnaprovide you a little perspective
from my end? Mhmm. Keep puttingyour faces out there.
Keep putting your faces outthere. It's it's the emotion
behind it. It's the word like,are words, and then there's the

(45:46):
people saying the words. Mhmm.You know what I mean?
Can I the the words on the thethe magnets, which is on my
fridge, they connect with me,but then the ability to connect
with a person on the other end,which is you guys, which seems
like what you're exactly tryingto do with us? So Yes. Let's all

(46:06):
just Exactly. You know?

Speaker 3 (46:08):
And I feel like that's

Speaker 1 (46:09):
we there.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Where our relationship, us and you, Leo,
when because you're one of ourfirst ambassadors back in the
day, like, when we were like onFacebook group and it was like,
what? It was but that's when wereally I feel as though, like,
hit another level of ourconnection with you when you

(46:30):
when you learned, like, on theside or on the on the on the
wraps that it was showing and Idoing doing this.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah. Yeah. We

Speaker 1 (46:42):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
People get the sorry, because cut you off.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
But Okay.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
When people see how big we are and how far what,
like, our brand reputation is,they don't have that same level
of connection. I think we'rejust a corporation. Like, we'll
get e customer service emailslike, fuck you guys. You really,
they don't see that it's a asmall family team Right. That's
just making a big impact.

(47:05):
They think we're we're Nike andwe're just steal we're trying to
steal our money or Yeah. Talk tothem over.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Even when if somebody writes me negative or positive,
like 99.9, I won't give it fivenines. Won't be 99.99999, but
it's 99.9, percent of the emailthat I get is positive, right,
which I love from our community.But even when somebody writes me
with a criticism, which most ofthe time they're correct, and I

(47:34):
respond, they're like floored.They're like, I can't believe
you wrote me back. And I'm like,there's six of us.
Like like, we're not Nike. We'rea team of six. Like, gonna hear
the odds of you hearing from oneof us is high. The odds of you
hearing from me is high. Youknow what I mean?
Because we're we're small familyowned business trying to do big

(47:54):
I

Speaker 1 (47:56):
have a question. What is one of the things that
somebody's written and you werelike, oh, yeah. That's right.
That's right. We could a acriticism.
And you go Criticism. Of myhead. What's one of them?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah. I mean, we were I I would I got one. Take the
last one. Shoot.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I think one for us and it realistically, like, is
an area we're always improving.But a lot of the times, our
demand for our product is,especially newer products, is
more than we forecast. Sure. Sowe do openly allow people to pre
like, essentially reserve theincoming stock whether or not

(48:37):
they read that message on theproduct display pages up to
them, but not their not theirfault. Right?
You go on a website, you expectabout it, and you expect to get
it quick, especially with Amazonand everything nowadays.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
So I think the something we do well is remove
our egos and understand ifsomeone is complaining about
something, then it's somethingwe have to do better. Because
for one person that complains,there's 20 other people out
there that feel the same way, atleast.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yeah. So, yeah, I've gotten complaints of our
shipping times because we areopen open about it. Like, hey.
It's gonna ship in a week ortwo, but you are able to reserve
it, the incoming inventory. Sothat is an area we're actively
looking to improve is is buyingmore inventory.
It's just hard to forecast like,this is gonna sell insane. You

(49:23):
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah. Yeah. That's probably that's probably the
number one criticism that I get,which is warranted. But I was
kinda digging through thearchives to to think if there
was another one that was morenot product based, but more,
like, more philosophical, youknow? Because I do see I send a
lot of like, my emails aremainly personal development

(49:45):
emails.
Yeah. So I was kinda diggingthrough the mental archives to
see if I've received somecriticism on that front.
Sometimes I get just some, like,anti American stuff, and I don't
think that really counts. Like,I don't even know how you're on
our list if you're not, you knowYeah. If you don't have at least
a sliver of pride of beingAmerican.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Did you did you not see the eagle?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Like Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
I was another product one, we used to get a lot of
criticism was being made inother countries. Like, I'm not
on our ads, they would be like,I'm not again, a small family
owned American business. I'm notgonna buy this cheap China crap.
Meanwhile, it's the highestquality Yeah. Over overseas crap
you can buy at the at the time.
But we took I I took every oneof those hateful comments on

(50:30):
those ads, like, personally. Iwas and that's why we made the
took the initiative to beAmerican made whether or not it
was the hardest or right thingto do at the time.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
But I would say as far as philosophical feedback,
it's all overwhelmingly positivebecause back to your point,
Leah, we're we are providingalways giving in our energy and
our intention that is very hardto say that we're not actively
trying to do the right thingphilosophically. So a lot of

(51:00):
that feedback, like, we get inthe DMs is you saved me. Like, I
needed this post. I was gonna dosomething severe tomorrow, and I
saw this post and I decided notto.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah. That's the stuff right there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
If I ever if I ever get any criticism on some of the
emails I send, I think it's justnot the right time for that
person to hear that message. Itry to do a very good job of not
being like a drill sergeantwith, like, my my approach to
personal development. But evenso, you're having a bad string
of days, like, last thing youwanna hear is prefer pain. So

(51:34):
sometimes, you know, I'll get aa little bit of a I'll get a
reply there, like, you know, youknow, get out of my inbox or
like,

Speaker 1 (51:41):
you know, stuff like I feel like if Drew writes them,
then he's he's gonna slide up,man, fuck them. Like, I feel
like I feel like that'll be he'sjust like, nah. Send it.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Send it. Send it. Just

Speaker 1 (51:54):
send. They'll be fine. Just send. They're not us.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
They're not us.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
You said that. One.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Like, the preferred pay the preferred pay mark.
Like, they'll always say, tellthat to someone with arthritis.
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Like It's like, well, okay. Vivien, that's what you're
doing.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. Yeah.
We get it.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Context. If you're if you're trying to nitpick that,
then we're not it's it's okay.It's okay. I'm not for you. It's
that's just it's alright.
No worries. Yeah. No worries.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
And that's the thing I love about what we who we deal
with, like, customers, ourvendors, our team. They're all
the few. Right? So Yeah. At myold job, I would get so annoyed
dealing with people that justweren't on our wavelength.
But Joey and I are so freakingspoiled at this point with the
our daily interactions that it'sall people that are all cut from
the same cloth as us. We don'thave a lot to fish about.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
That was the That's good. That was the thing. Like,
we set out to build thiscommunity to kinda change the
world. I know that soundscliche, but to change society,
to put society back on track.And what we ended up doing in
the process is also accidentallybuilding a business of all of
those people too.
And like working with them onthe business side as well, you
know, as on the societal side.So, like, you know, we're

(53:07):
spoiled. I agree.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
That's awesome. We're spoiled. So two things. I wanna
change the world is not cliche.Cliche to me thinks it's
something everybody says anddoes, and I guarantee most
people in America in the worldaren't waking up thinking that.
So no. Not a cliche. And second,I brought up the feedback

(53:32):
portion of things because I'venoticed over time that people
who are take accountability andownership, when it's given to
them, they don't get offendedbecause they go, how can I be
better? Yeah. What can I?
Maybe I can get this shipmentout a little better or faster.
Maybe I can, obviously thereasons, but it's just a

(53:54):
testament to you all. They'rereally, obviously this is your
baby. This is your baby. Yeah.
That's good.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
And we're gonna like, we're gonna make mistakes. You
know what I mean? And we'regonna you know, at the time, for
example, like the shippingthing, like we have, you know,
ships and then the date in boldon the page. Well, there's a lot
of other there's a lot of otherbold stuff on the page. Right?
So we're getting this feedback.We're getting this feedback.
We're not saying like, we seeother brands go after people on

(54:25):
social media. Like, look at thisguy. Impatient.
Can't wait for his shit. We'reworking hard over here trying to
get this out. And Drew and I seethat, and we're like, oh, like,
that's not us.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
We're on

Speaker 2 (54:36):
we're on the other side of the spectrum. We're
like, okay. Let's let's, like,disarm this situation, take
ownership, and now how can we bebetter? So like Drew said, now
we highlight it. Now it's in,yellow highlighter on the page
too.
Mhmm. And, like, we'll just keepdoing that and keep doing right
by our people, and everythingwill work out.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
It's just a it's just a better place to pace better
place to, put the energy. Yeah.It's something that it's what
like, in the Greg movie you weretalking about, like, I got time
to be upset about this personover here who's complaining. No
problem. I'll transfer my energyinto this because I got bigger
things to worry about, likemaking this thing I'm trying to
build that much better, not thisperson who's coming at white.

(55:17):
I got time for this.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Every, and I'm gonna sound like a customer service
manual probably, but like I seeevery exchange with one of our
community members is anopportunity to show them like
who we are how great we can befor them, you And again, I don't
know if that sounds likesomething that's posted up in a
wall in some corporate office orwhatever, but it's the truth.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
You know? We've had Drew was mentioning, like, get
comments all the time, like, youknow, on our ads that go out
because, you know, the algorithmdoes what the algorithm does and
some of our ads get shown topeople that they shouldn't get
shown to. And then those peopleare having a bad day and they're
like, oh, like, cheap shit orwhatever. We've actually engaged
with people k. From thosenegative comments, and they've

(56:03):
come into our community.
And they've been like, oh, wow.Like, I didn't know to your
point, Lou, I didn't know therewere like real humans behind
this that were making stuff inAmerica and actually brought
them in the community. So itcompletely changed the energy.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
So every every interaction is an opportunity to
just like There

Speaker 1 (56:21):
you go.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
For our people and do right by them.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
And like you said, Lee, the people that are out
there really trying to changethe world aren't getting
offended by every comment orevery Nope. Or more. Yeah.
There's Those people. There'sliterally nothing you could say
to me that would offend me otherthan you're not working hard
enough or trying hard enough.
There is not much you could sayabout me or Fuwa Hunt that would

(56:46):
offend me and not make me think,how can I be better?

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. And even I

Speaker 3 (56:55):
was gonna say that even with our team, I try and
tell them that if some becauseit's easy to say, oh, that
vendor didn't get back to me intime, or the vendor didn't do
what they wanted me to do andwhat I wanted them to do. And
they didn't understand. Therewas they they they
misunderstood. If someone is notreceiving the message that you

(57:17):
want them to receive, then it'son you to exchange the way
you're saying it Mhmm. Ordelivering the message.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yes, sir. For sure.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
%.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
For sure. Extreme extreme ownership, Jocko the
GOAT, but

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Mhmm. There

Speaker 2 (57:35):
you go.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
They, like, literally changed my life. Yeah. That is
when Fuel Hunt really started todo better when I stopped making
excuses for myself andeverything that happened to me
and took extreme, extremeownership Yeah. Of every single
event in my life.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yep. I love that. I love that. You you and I are on
the same page, which I guess iswhy we're talking to each other

Speaker 2 (58:00):
now. Exactly. Right?

Speaker 1 (58:01):
100%. I don't get to have this conversation very
often, but I'll post about itwith it. And that falls into
coaching the If I'm trying totell somebody something and they
don't get it, it's not theirfault. It's my fault because
they're smart, productiveindividuals who contribute to
the world. They just whateverthat thing is I'm saying isn't

(58:23):
resonating with them.
So I ideally should have three,four, five different ways to
hopefully get the message acrossto them. That's my job. I'm a
teacher. Kids aren't stupid. Myjob is to teach them in a way
that I said kids, but teacher.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
How do you find that and to that point, my my brother
just finished his first semesterin college, and one of the
classes he took, like, eightypercent of the kids failed. And
I'm in my head, I'm like, thatdoesn't make sense. You're not
doing that guy's not doing hisjob well if everyone's failing.
But how do you find that wasjust a quick point to that.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
But how do you find your some of your, we'll say,
hardo content is received byyour following and your
customers?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
I don't I don't know if I feel like like B says, the
Oreo cookie, like, I feel likeLeo, like, he he can be tough,
but he always wraps it in energythat's received well. I mean,
maybe that's just me, but Idon't think Leo has an attack
mode like I do.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
No. Or or Drew with his emails. Like, see see his
question? That's his questionright there. How Well, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
The thing I'm all about the brand the brand. Like,
I'm like, if

Speaker 1 (59:41):
they're not one of us, then

Speaker 3 (59:43):
fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
You know what I mean? Like That's what I'm talking
about.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
If you're not

Speaker 1 (59:47):
talking

Speaker 2 (59:47):
you're

Speaker 1 (59:47):
not talking about you're

Speaker 2 (59:50):
If with us. And this, he's gonna go send off, like, 10
emails and be like, fuck theseguys.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Joey Joey have to issue an apology email. Like,
sorry, Drew.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Drew went rogue today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
That was I think a I think more on Joey's side, I've
I have your thoughts, Drew, butI have to tell myself to deliver
it in a way that is is direct,and puts the onus on whoever is

(01:00:30):
reading it. And then at the end,some version of, I believe you,
I'm rooting for you because Iactually am. But I found a long
time ago, great, here's thisthing. I was teaching a class
one time and we're at atreadmill class, they run,
you're doing all the yelling,let's go seven more, pick your

(01:00:51):
dimple up. When I got done, theypaused.
Was like, you guys reallyworking that hard. Like you
didn't give me everything yougot. And class ended and a woman
came back in who was a regularand she goes, Leo, I know what
you're going for, but I foundthat very defeating.
Respectfully, who are you? Whyam I doing this for you?

(01:01:16):
I'm not gonna know you in acouple of years. Why am I
running hard for you? And I waslike, feedback. I was like, you
know what? You're absolutelyright.
You're right. Since that day,I've never been like, give me
this, give me that. It'squestions. Are you doing the
best for you? Are you working ashard as you can for Is this

(01:01:36):
free?
Can give you anymore? Thisfuture you gonna be happy with
this result? Whatever the thingis, I find that the easiest way
where no one can ever come backand go, Ah, Leah, you're doing
this. Well, I'm just posingquestions. Questions that helped
me out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah. What a moment too for her to come back in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Thanked her a day later.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Have that conversation. Yeah. What a
moment because your intentionwas pure and your care was
there. There's, if the message,this is the way I typically
think of things and I makemistakes all the time. So, I'm
not saying that it's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
But if my message isn't received, I'm also like a
programmer. Don't know if youknew that. Computer programmer
back in the day before Google SoI think in like terms of like
frameworks, it helps me. So Ithink that if my message isn't
being received the way Iintended, there's two problems
with it. Okay.

(01:02:35):
Repetition or resonating. Sowhat I'm saying, it's not,
they're not the right words. Notresonating. Or I just haven't
said it enough. Like, it's likeone of those two things
typically if it's not beingreceived.
And I think like a lot of thetimes, many people I know I do
fail on the resonating end.That's where the question,
that's where the questions comein. Because you're not speaking

(01:02:58):
for you, you're not speaking tothem, you're speaking with them
when you ask questions.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
With. Absolutely. Because I'm in the same boat
they are. I'm asking themquestions that I have to ask
myself regularly. Exactly.
Regularly. Exactly. And love thefact that I did like the story
also because to the very thingwe talked about in the
beginning, she felt comfortableenough to come up and tell me
because she knew that I did careabout her and them. So she was

(01:03:30):
like, I I see what he's doing,but it it didn't it's not
working. So let me tell himbecause I know what he wants to
get done.
Yeah. I appreciate thatexchange.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah. And that's Yeah. Yeah. What a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
One thing that's challenging for you too, my my
wife owns a a ladies onlyfitness facility.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
And the one thing we've always talked about is not
everyone has the same goal whenit when you come when it comes
to coaching classes, but noteveryone has the same goal with
their fitness. Right? Like yousaid, some people are for the
show, some people are for thego, and some people just wanna
come in there and just move. AndYep. So our coaches have to be

(01:04:09):
very careful with how they'rechoosing to motivate each
specific person.
Yeah. And not everyone wants togo up in weights. Not everyone
wants to test their highestboxer.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Mhmm. So I find that's probably an interesting
area to navigate for you. Right?Like, especially when when group
coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Alright. So so first, I wanna come back later on to
you and these box jumps becausethat's number two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
It's common. You you it's a theme.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna I feel like that
whole statement was just aboutyou and how you don't wanna do
maybe I don't wanna do box jumpstoday. Maybe

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yo. I clipped my shin on a box jump one time years
ago, and I've never had the samerelationship with box jump
since.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Have you

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
ever done that, Leo?

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Yeah. It's a it's a rite of passage. It is the worst
pain a rite of passage.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Ever felt in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
And I bet you've never done it again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
But my shin? No. I've never dude, it was during a
CrossFit workout when you're inthose deep round those late
rounds. And you're you're you'relazy, and you're just cut you're
literally barely clearing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
And I ate it, dude. And my shin was bloody, and,
like, it was just terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah. Yeah. I you you learned to you learned to focus
or don't doom anymore. Don'tknow. Either one.
Either

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
one. One. Just to clarify, for all the listeners,
I do still do box jumps. Just,but I have a I

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
have I yeah. You what

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I did for you? I have one

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I have one of those soft, Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Absolutely. This is like devolving, man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
No. This is good, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Jeff was disappointed. He's like, and I

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Don't chuckle

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
my my box my box has, razors aligned on the outside of
it. I have razors taped

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
in the

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
outside. And does with barefoot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I do I do do barefoot.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Very, John McClain of you. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Right? That's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
So bring it back. You were talking about the,
different kind of people andtheir goals in class. Yes, I
think the first thing that I hadto learn was even though
whatever I'm trying to give you,that may not be what you want.
So I have to keep making itabout you. You gave me your
money, you gave me your time.

(01:06:34):
So I'm just gonna come in hereand of sorts, let you do the
thing that you came to do. And Iwill offer up, hey. Think you
can go a little faster?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Hey. You think you can go a little heavier? And,
again, most people who show upare looking to push themselves
because I can't imagineactually, I know for a fact
nobody shows up to a session, ora class, specifically at me, I
can see probably else and go,man, I hope he takes it easy on
me today.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Yeah. I'm gonna mail it in today.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah. No one no one, they don't show up

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
for that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Not a few on shirt. Not a few on mail.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
So I think it's but it's good to know that. There
was a I did have a guy one time.He only started boxing with me
because his his father passed,and he needed something to just
kind of get the stress out. Hewas a very talkative man, like
the very, very talkative man.One day I timed him.
I timed him every single time wemoved or worked, I timed it. In

(01:07:30):
sessions about an hour fiftyfive minutes, We might've done
about twenty minutes of work. Ishowed him at the end, I was
like, Hey, just so you knew whatI timed you, he got very, very
upset, but he reminded me, Ididn't come here for this. I
came here just to kind of moveand this and dah, dah, dah, dah.
And I was like, you know what?
That's right. People, if hewants to come here and just talk

(01:07:53):
about his New York Jets andmovies and we're going to move a
little bit, that's fine.Everyone's not hit the same I
just want to come in here andmove. I've got some seniors now,
which are, oh, they are sogreat. They are they are so
great.
They just come in and name gamefor them is the end game is to

(01:08:16):
keep them upright. So it's notgonna be as intense and they'll
tell me stories about theirtravels and then we'll do a
little this and what are youwatching? Bonanza again? Okay.
To those who don't know Bonanzais, it's a very, very old TV
show that you watch repeatedly.
And I have to adjust myintensity to match the person,

(01:08:39):
but the approach hasn't changed.We're gonna get some work done
today, but it's lucky becausethey show up for that same also.
They want they wanna be uprighttoo. So it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
You got I mean, that's someonethat isn't a people person, I I
think that maybe they don'tunderstand that that takes a lot
of energy for you to meet peoplewhere they are and give them
what they need. Yeah. That,that, that's yeah, exactly.
Because that changes like, youknow, one session, maybe not

(01:09:10):
with the seniors, but maybe someof your other clients, one
session, somebody could come inready to go, go, go, go, go mode
Mhmm. High intensity, and maybethe next session, they've got
something personal going on.
You have to you have to meetthem where they are Yeah. And
give them what they need, theappropriate level of intensity
or more talk, less action, orYeah. The other way around,

(01:09:30):
like, whatever. That's what Iappreciate. I really appreciate
about everybody that coaches andtrains in our community.
Because I I I see thephysicality the programming and
all that stuff, but the peopleaspect of it, I really
appreciate for, you know,community members like you that
are out there doing it for theright reasons to serve other

(01:09:50):
people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
It's the only only way I know how to do it. And I
know I'm in good company withthat also, so it works out well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Amen. Amen. Sure. One thing that I I wanted to Drew,
you probably have some lightninground stuff. Mhmm.
But before we do that, one thingI wanted to underscore, and this
is something we talked about inthe beginning, you are not all
in until you have a showersandwich. That's gonna become
like a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Let him know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Sandwich in the shower.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah. Leave him dead serious. He's like, yeah. Let
him know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Is that is, like, the symbol of being all in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
I was I was it was a fun time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
The rest of the rest of the world is doing the shower
beer thing. Yeah. Yeah. Outthere doing shower carrots.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Oh, are you are you eating at a lunch at a table
like a regular person? Oh, Well,Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Yeah. We'll start Yeah. Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Got I'm just I'm just saying. I'm just saying if
that's if that's your choice, nojudgment. Yep. No judgment. It's
fine.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
We'll start we'll start instituting that in in our
mentor calls. Like, alright.Shower sandwich. Are you doing
this? Are you doing that?
Have you resorted to eating yourlunch in the shower?

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
You like forks and knives? That's cool. No big
deal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah. It's fine. It's efficient. You eat it, you clean
up right away. You got it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Just put that bag in the shower, pop it, throw it.
We're good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
The clip for the show, it'd be like fork forks
and knives are soft.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Yeah. There you go. There you go. There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Yeah. Let's see this. I got see lightning round
questions, Leo. Alright?

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Alright. First one, we'll start off easy. What is
the your favorite tattoo youhave, and why do you have it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Done. It is one called The Standard is the
standard. It is let's see if Ican turn that right there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
That's sick. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
That is my absolute favorite and the words speak for
themselves. It's

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
If you say you're gonna do it and your standard is
high, do not let it fall foranybody. Not even for whoever's
listening, not even foryourself. I actually love Once
once you've done it once,there's no reason why you can't
do it 800 more times.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
I would agree. Well, that leads me into the next one,
your favorite quote. Would thatbe the standard as a standard as
well or is it a different quotethat maybe isn't tattooed on
your body?

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Done. So I will that is the best one. But there's one
I say to myself regularly. It islet's see if I'm not gonna
butcher this here even though Isay it all the time. I am from
savage lands where weak men die,but they saw me thrive.
They saw me win. That is thathappens before a big lift.

(01:12:36):
That's that's me walking I lovethat. That's me walking around
going

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
That's sick. That is that is me before a lift. That's
a sick quote.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
And that's something that's something I've never
heard before either.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
No. I've never heard that quote.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Never heard. I might go deadlift after this, man.
Know? Pumped, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Let's go. You're the craziest challenge you've ever
done, like, something similar to

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Rocking in the in the monsoon with something like
that. Like

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Oh, man. I didn't want to fail this one. I might
fail this one. I think thatmight have been there was one I
did in the snow. Mhmm.
There was one I did in the snowwhere it was fairly late. It was
visually very good too, but itwas fairly late. It snowed and I

(01:13:30):
was just out there for I don'tremember the exact time, but it
but it was it was over an hour.It was very cold. I was bundled
up and I was listening to, likego ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
You have been shirtless. I mean, it's kinda

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Don't give this guy any more ideas, man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Yeah. Guy wears his. If I had glasses on right now.
Yeah. I glasses on.
I had glasses on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah. He's like, don't test me, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Yeah. Listen. Exactly. Sure. Listen.
Just gloves. That was a that wasa that was a memorable one
because at some point, youcould, like, look back and see
that. Oh, like your feet in thesnow. Like, oh, I walked. You
can't fake it.
I walked all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah. I walked all of the track record.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yeah. Literally.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah. Yeah. See what I did there?

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
No. No. Of course I did. I love it. Yeah.
Yeah. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Final one, and this one might hit home, and I
apologize. But before this callor this bucket, I looked up the
chances of the falcons makingthe playoffs is at 12%. Yeah. So
do you believe that the falconswill make the playoffs this
year?

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Yes. Course. Before we start.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Cocoa.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
I just thought you might have brought it we said
Falcons, you were talking abouthow we lost to Philly, but it's
okay.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Everyone is losing to Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
So Damn it. That's I walked

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
in that one. I walked in

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
that one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
To be fair yeah. To be fair, we had my childhood Oh
my god. Was haunted

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
by that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Dramatic. The eagles could not win shit. My dad would
take

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
me to games, and we

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
would just assume we were gonna like, it was we
weren't they were there for agood time. There was no
potential

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
of a of a win. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
And Tom Brady robbed my father when he was alive of
his only chance of seeing aSuper Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
I know

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
that feeling. Yeah. Exactly. We a lot of us do.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah. I know that. I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
What if I told what if I told you in Philadelphia,
it's not just the Eagles thatmade our child childhoods
traumatic. It was the Phillies.Yeah. It was the Flyers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
It was everything. We put a we put a lot of time in to
get here. That's all I wannasay, Leo.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Okay. Alright. Time well invested. Falcons fan, I am
hoping for the playoffs. Butspeaking of hope, I I don't and
now I know what it's like tohave a QB.
Right? The last one I had wasMatt Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Were you like, okay. We're good. We're good. We're
good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Mhmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Now what last night was was game number two. But
that boy, that was a prettyball.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Mhmm. Who is the is the Falcons quarterback right
now?

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Fair enough. It is Michael Penix junior. He was the
Washington as you can tellpeople who's watching, I don't
own a company. It's a lifetimefor sports. These fools are
replying to emails and avoidingbox jumps.
That's Yeah. Exactly. We're justtoo busy. We're we're too busy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
We're keep up with numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
I love it. I was like falcons. I'm like, who are

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
the what is that?

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
I'm like, we're eagles. I'm like, we're eagles.
What are we talking about

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
here? It's

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
No. I at least I at least know the teams of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
I do. I mean, to be fair like, in all honesty, I I
do put the playoffs on just tokeep an eye. Because now we're
we're automatically getting inthe eagles. So we I I did like
the Super Bowl last year. I Iwas watching that.
So I have a I've transitioned toa, the Good Times fan, like, the
the front runner. So That'sokay. Okay. So yes yes or no?

(01:17:06):
The final answer is no Yes.
On on the okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Final answer is no. I am I am I am happy with the hope
I have, but if we make it, nobig deal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
You guys were spoiled with the Matt Ryan Julio Jones
era, though. So Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Yeah. Yeah. It's only

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
it's right you guys do your time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
That goddamn city was that city was rocking, boy.
Yeah. Ludacris was out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Season time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
A ATAM must have been popping off. Yeah. Peace out. A
down, man. Oh, man.
It was good. All the hits weregoing

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
out that time too. That was that was, like, peak
childhood for

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
me. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I'm really childhood. Is that it? What what else you
got, Drew?

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
No. I they they were the fools.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Any well, before we go, Leah,
where can the community findyou? I am Graham.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
I am on Instagram, lew gross thirty nine. That's
me. Excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Excellent. I had a blast with you today, man. As
Drew mentioned, we are committedto making sure this gets
published. There there will beno way that this is not gonna
get published. But, no, in allseriousness, I had a blast
kicking it.
You asked us some insightfulquestions, which I expected, and
I appreciate. Man, I love seeingyou do your thing, and I will

(01:18:20):
always support you, man. Always.Always.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
I appreciate both of you and, what you all have
built. I cannot begin to tellyou, but you probably heard it
many times already. You aredoing really good things for
people and, building something.You're doers. You're doers.
You're not just talkers. You'redoers. And, people like, me and
the rest of us value that. Nomatter what, never change.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Yeah. Honored to staying with you, man.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Honored

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
to staying with I'll leave a few with a reminder.
Always choose hard work overhandouts. Always choose effort
over entitlement. Remember, noone owns you. No one owes you.
You're one of the few. Let'shunt.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah.

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