Self-Defense, Jiu-Jitsu, and Personal Growth with Talia Nierman

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah. I think it's just about like doing your inner

(00:02):
work and becoming likeemotionally intelligent Mhmm.
And like realizing that, yes,you need to be selfish to a
certain extent, but anything inextreme is like not good.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah. I mean like you should be self you should be
selfish to be selfless.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Right? I mean, that's the

Speaker 2 (00:20):
goal. Yeah. You know what

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean? So fill your cup till it overflows, and then
give it away to everybody

Speaker 2 (00:24):
else. Mhmm. Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. What's
going on, Eagles? Welcome to theFuel Hunt Show.
I'm Joey. I'm Drew.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I was waiting for you to come in. Was like, we're
gonna have fun today. Well, Ijust I have Natalia thinks I
don't do any work.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
If you didn't true. I know you do work. He's just like
he's the he's like a character.Character. Like he's just like

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You are

Speaker 3 (00:48):
a character.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I can do that. I can do that. I wonder

Speaker 3 (00:50):
what your impression of me is. I got it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
What was he saying? You're the the work or is that I

Speaker 3 (00:54):
am like a You're just like Noble steed.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah. Just like a work.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
You're just like I

Speaker 2 (00:58):
don't think you can call yourself

Speaker 1 (00:59):
a You're locked in.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I am locked in.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
And Drew's just like, what the fuck, man? Yeah. What's
up, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah. That's so true.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, at the old office, we were in a single,
like, room and we had a shared ashared. Yeah. It was like,
literally me, Brianna and Joeyin this room for like It very,
good.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
It was almost like clock.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Joey would come in Joey would come in locked in.
Yeah. Right? And I'm like, Joey,you're kinda killing the vibe,
dude.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah. Like So this is

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah. Like

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm like, you're you're no fun.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Exactly. Where is the fun? And I'm I'm walking in and
I'm like, wait

Speaker 3 (01:31):
a second. Like, there's work to be done. Like,
we're having fun? Like, fuckthat. Yeah.
You know

Speaker 2 (01:35):
what I mean? My opinion is life is short. It
should be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah. Even the hard work is fun.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I agree. Think has to be.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I've I've aged in reverse

Speaker 2 (01:42):
since we started doing Especially if we're gonna
grind our balls off twenty fourseven, like, might as well be
fun.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
He's ever evolving.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Exact he is.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
He's adapting to

Speaker 2 (01:51):
size Yeah. The work has gotten harder, but Joey's
gotten fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Uh-huh. He's a chameleon.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
That's hard work

Speaker 2 (01:56):
makes you happy.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Hard work makes you Who

Speaker 2 (01:57):
are we speaking with today? Only halfway in the are
here today we are here todaywith the face of the few.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Right? If you've never heard Talia's voice,
right, you've definitely atleast seen her because she's
been in probably every shootthat we've done for the past.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
And she does the Fu Hua Hunt's Hot Girls guy for Jiu
Jitsu. Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
She does do that. Fu Hua

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Hunt athlete.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Also a podcast host.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I

Speaker 3 (02:20):
am. Also an entrepreneur. I am. Also a Jiu
Jitsu practitioner. Blue BellBlue Bell?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Right? Blue bell. Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay. I don't rush it.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
But some people will say I'm a higher belt, but
identifies as a blue bell. Oh,yeah. I got you. I've been using
that joke a lot. I

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I think it's It's really a touchy joke. You gotta
be careful with

Speaker 2 (02:39):
that one. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Mean, it kinda hits.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
But would some people at your school argue that Talia
is not, like, get get her assget their ass beat by Talia and
be like, yeah. She's not a bluebelt. Like Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Is she is she like a brownbelt? Yeah. She's and I'm like,

Speaker 1 (02:57):
And then you see some of these girls out there that
are like blue belts and they'reblack belts. Yeah. They're
competing at blue belt. Yeah. Solike you have to be.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Locked in?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You have to be locked in.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Locked in. It's me.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's where I'm like, I'm not I'm not there yet.
I will be and I don't think youever feel like you're there.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I I have too much that I wanna achieve where I'm
where I'm at before I'm evereven thinking of myself as a
verbal.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're enjoying the enjoying the
journey. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
We're not rushing the process.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
The journey.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Was fun.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Before we started the show, you said something that
you find, like, completelyrefreshing about Talia.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh, I said

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Re recap if

Speaker 2 (03:34):
you The refreshing thing about Talia is the energy
you get from her on Instagram orTikTok, where wherever you're
finding your Talia content,you're getting the same version
of Talia when you see meet herin person. Yeah. Whereas a
number of these

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He's wording it so much nicer.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Answers. They're they're just weird. Growing.
They're just weird. Instagramgrowing are weird.
Are weird and weird. Justfucking weird. Yeah. But it
allows them to Instagram kindagives them an avenue or a
vehicle to express themselvesbetter because there's no one
around. Yeah.
But it's really hard to expressyourself that way when you're
actually with

Speaker 3 (04:11):
With other people.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah. I would I would agree. Yeah. I would agree.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is that a weird way to think of it? It's like No. On
social media, you're withmillions of people, but you're
actually by yourself.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah. It's kinda sad.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's super it's super accurate. It's like a
conversation that a lot ofpeople have, actually. Yeah. You
know? And that's like you'resaying, like, it's just you and
your phone and the person thatyou are at that time, you can't,
unless you're completelycongruent like Talia, you can't
be that person when you're withother

Speaker 1 (04:39):
people because

Speaker 3 (04:40):
there's influence and energy.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
There's people that are also extroverted when
they're alone, can be superextroverted on camera. Mhmm. But
like as soon as they're in frontof people, they just like, it's
not like they can't open up.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yep. Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I would agree. That's a really good assessment.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I feel like I've I feel like actually, jujitsu made
me find the extroverted versionof myself again. I feel like she
was lost at one point, and shewas like, could you imagine me
being like meek? Never. Yeah. Iwas.
I kind of got like lost myself,and then when I found jiu jitsu,
I was like, oh, okay, this isme, feel, I can vibe with this.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Ju jitsu.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
And I definitely became way more of a personality
in general.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah. How long ago was that?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I started training in 2021. The August. '3 and a

Speaker 2 (05:34):
half BC. Years. Before COVID, BC. No. No.
That's DC during COVID. Twentyone.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Twenty twenty one is the was like it was like kinda
not COVID. Was it? Oh, no.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
My life's flashing me from my eyes, so I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
We had we had enforcers coming to our school
in '21. We started

Speaker 2 (05:52):
you were were in training when

Speaker 3 (05:54):
August 21. Right? Or did I start August 22?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
We definitely started after COVID.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm was like

Speaker 3 (06:00):
We had enforcers, man. We had enforcers coming on
Common Ave. And tell us I feel

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I was after COVID.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah. It wasn't, like, scary.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Like Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah. Wasn't, like, too too bad.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Right. Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So it was like safe to like be in public.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
What do you think what do you think

Speaker 3 (06:14):
it is about Jiu Jitsu that helped you find that part
of you that was like you saykinda lost? Or maybe deep down,

Speaker 1 (06:20):
you I think it was because I started Jiu Jitsu as
an individual. I went into thisnew place alone with no friends,
with nobody and I needed to bemy own advocate and I needed to
make friends.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So it wasn't so much I had people to kind of like
hide behind or they took thereins, like I had to be that
person for myself. I reallythink that's the main thing that
made me kind of find that likesillier, goofier version of
myself. And you just meet somany different people Yep. And

(06:54):
it just becomes like, oh, likeeveryone's coming from all over,
no one's really like judging me.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
So like I feel comfortable here.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, what an environment to like make friends
in, right? Yeah. The serious,serious way of saying it is
like, paint adheres people orit's an adhesive, but really
it's just like, you know, doingthat hard work. Yeah. And you
know, it opens you up and makesyou vulnerable to who you really
are and then people can bond.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah. I think it also becomes much harder to make
friends as you get older becauseyou're not put in environments
too unless you have like mindedYeah, that's point. So, you
know, if all of your friends arelike at college or something
like that and you're just kindof like alone starting something
on your own is where you'regonna like, you're going to the
same place every day, you seethe same faces eventually.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah. What brought you to jiu jitsu? Were you
struggling? Like did you knowyou needed something to break
you out of your shell or?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think that it would have been I never would have
found it this way, but like onmy own just as like a hobby
Mhmm. Which I wish I would havebecause Yeah. It's so neat, but
I didn't know what jujitsu was.So I couldn't have just like
started it. I knew what like theUFC was I knew what like, you
know, boxing was, but I didn'tknow like what jujitsu was.

(08:08):
So, back in the summer of twentytwenty one, in the beginning of
the summer, I had an altercationat work and I was, as I do,
sticking up, know, insertingmyself to defend somebody who
wasn't being treated right andin turn, somebody that I trusted
and didn't think they would puttheir hands on me did. Somebody

(08:32):
much bigger than me like

Speaker 2 (08:35):
A male?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
A man.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
And I never ever ever

Speaker 2 (08:38):
What line of work was that?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
It was like a family business. Okay. The person
wasn't family but Mhmm. And thiswas during COVID ish time too,
like the beginning.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Not the beginning of COVID but the beginning of
summer. So it was definitelymore so like, I never thought
ever if you told me that a manwas gonna put his hands on me,
like I would be like, yeah,right.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah. You

Speaker 3 (08:59):
almost feel like I know what

Speaker 1 (09:00):
to do in that sit like, I'm No one's putting their
hands on me, like, I can I canstick up for myself? I was like
that kind of person.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So when it happens and you just black out and
you're like, oh, I don't knowwhat to do. Like, I don't know
how to defend Like, this isreally scary. Luckily, somebody
else was there

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
To step in and de escalate the situation. But it's
a lot of what goes on your headon in your head that's like,
what if that person wasn't thereto de escalate that situation?
What if the man that was therewasn't fucking six four and huge
and was able to, you know, prythis apart. Yep. And it was kind

(09:38):
of just like, I mean afterwardsI was like, like I this didn't
happen.
Like you think like this

Speaker 2 (09:45):
didn't And

Speaker 1 (09:46):
then, you know, you start and you hear like, you
know, all the different thingshappen to different people and
it's like, okay, well, maybe itwasn't that bad. Like, maybe
it's other people have it worseand like, it's really not that
bad.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
But I was like, I'm not okay here. Yeah. Like, I
need to do something so that Ican like, feel safe and not feel
like that was really like, Ijust felt like you don't know
what to do. Like

Speaker 3 (10:09):
you're like Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Or you really just didn't know. You you think you
would know what to do. It'slike, I was not somebody people
fucked with. Yeah. Mhmm.
And I was like, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah. That's scary.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You almost feel like when you said you've never
visualized that ever happening,you almost feel like it's like,
oh, even for societal reasonslike, oh, a guy's never gonna
come, like, put his hands onLike Yeah. That's just

Speaker 1 (10:34):
It's actually not somebody that you

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Trust me.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Know and you trust. Yeah. You know, that's I think
the most times that stuff likethis happens is when it's
somebody that you

Speaker 3 (10:43):
When your guard's down.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah. Your guard is down. You think like, okay,
maybe we're having some sort ofverbal altercation, but you're
not gonna fucking put your handson me. Yeah. Like, that's not
gonna happen.
You're like probably two hundredand fifty pounds.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Like, Like,

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
You know?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You used the phrase blackout?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh, I literally blacked out. Yeah. I wouldn't be
able to tell you what happenedif I didn't have it on video.
Yep. Yeah.
I Yeah. Was not there.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
And I think I think most people don't understand
that, like when you're puttingin that situation, like people
are like, oh, I'll know what todo or I'll figure it out.
There's like your brain shutsoff. Yeah. But you're

Speaker 1 (11:19):
The craziest

Speaker 3 (11:20):
thing you're like blackout.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Oh, literally blackout, but the craziest thing
is the most I've ever felt thatwas in my first jujitsu
competition, my first match.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I blacked out and I didn't, I couldn't hear him out
coaching me.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I did not know what was going on. So it's like it
mimics that.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
And that's why I think competing is important
because it's able to mimic that.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yep. I said to put my son Parker's on a few
tournaments, competitions andAmanda will be yelling from the
side. He can't hear He's onlydone Jiu Jitsu World League, so
you're not on the the floor.He's done wrestling matches too,
like, but the wrestling matchesare There's barrier. You're
route well, the wrestlingmatches, you're allowed to stand
right around the circle.
Mhmm. Like, it's stupid. I don'tknow why they allow that. But

(12:04):
just the worldly, there's abarrier. Like, you're literally
he's in an arena, and you'reyou're in the stands.
I'm like, Amanda, he can't hearyou. Like, all he hears right
now is wah wah wah.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
You're screaming for you

Speaker 2 (12:13):
right now. That's what it feels that's what

Speaker 1 (12:15):
it You're screaming so you feel better?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You're better off just not even yelling because
I've done the wrestling matches,like, back in the day. Like, you
go out there and you just like,it's literally just a like, you
don't even know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's like a it's like a power lifting stage. It's the
same thing when you step up onthe platform. Well,

Speaker 2 (12:30):
not quite. Yeah. Not quite. But You're you're I mean,

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I don't know. I've never power left, but I wanna
tell you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I mean, it's similar. I mean, if you

Speaker 2 (12:36):
have Yeah. You can drive

Speaker 3 (12:37):
400 pounds on your back that's about to crush you.
I mean

Speaker 1 (12:40):
That's pretty scary.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's It's to me.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I need to go down and come back up. There's a black
curtain. There's, a blackoutwhere your body just basically
says, I'm gonna do what I'mtrained to Right? And like
that's what was missing when youhad Yeah. Right?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yep. There was no I think now if I was in a
situation like that, even if Iblacked out, at least I have
instincts. Yeah. Right?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah. So that's the thing, like when the black
curtain came and you blacked outYeah. There was nothingness.
That's the scariest part. Butnow that you're trained, the
black curtain comes and it comesdown, there's skill there,
there's training, there's musclememory, your body knows, like,
you know what I mean?
There's a plan of attack. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So it was like an actual altercation. Like they
last for extended period of timeor

Speaker 3 (13:20):
was it? Mean, we don't

Speaker 2 (13:21):
have to get in.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah. No.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
It was it

Speaker 1 (13:22):
was it was like, not like over days. It was like one
instance.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
But it was, I mean, I could it was verbal until it
wasn't.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay. So you just don't think it's gonna turn into
Yeah. Anything more than that.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah. Without without going in, like, too deep into
it, like, what after it Mhmm.You started to deny that it
happened and that's like a it'scommon. You know what I

Speaker 1 (13:50):
The thing is like I would never pin I would never
say that I would be a personlike that too. It's just weird
how like

Speaker 3 (13:56):
your body Trauma does to you.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah. You what I was just like, well like,

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Wasn't that bad or it didn't happen this way or it
didn't, right?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, was like, it's not like a big deal or whatever,
like I, and then I'm just like,but then it's when it's just you
and like your thoughts, you'relike, okay, I'm I know, like I'm
self aware enough to know thatlike you're you're you're not
like acknowledging how you'refeeling right

Speaker 2 (14:20):
now Yes.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
About this, right? Because you just want it to go
away.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
But that's not going to fix any of the actual
problems which is why like Ithink with training, like when a
lot of girls have things happento them and then they come into
the gym no matter what it is,you know, no matter how severe
it was Mhmm. When they are whenthey don't train with men
because of that right off thebat, I think that's like the

(14:47):
worst thing you can do becausenow you're building this this
hurdle that you're going to haveto overcome one day when you
train with a man.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
So You're like so what took you what took you to
my where I was going with thatwas

Speaker 2 (15:00):
like Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
That space that you were in, I get it. Right? What
How did this switch flip to yousaying, Okay, look, I'm going to
break out of, It wasn't thatbad. Maybe I did something. Did
it even happen?
Maybe this is just a bigmisunderstanding. Like, all
those waves of emotion andprocessing. Did the switch flip

(15:21):
and you say, okay, jujitsu.Like, I'm gonna walk into this.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Somebody suggested that I train jujitsu. I think I
was just in a bad mental space.Like, there was a lot of stuff
happening in that year. My dadwas really sick. Mhmm.
And then that happened and itwas just like, I, there's so
much going on right now thatlike, I'm not in control of.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
And somebody suggested that I train. I didn't
even think I was gonna dojujitsu. I thought I was gonna
do kickboxing which is just likeso ironic because I thought
that's like, you know, the mostideal way to defend myself. But
then when I walked into myintro, Al had asked me about
like, you know, what made youwant to train? Which I think is
an important question to ask andI was just like, this happened.

(16:09):
And then he's like, oh, okay.So, you want to know how to
defend yourself? And I was like,yeah. He's like, well you're
probably not gonna knock a dudeout, so you know, jujitsu. Yeah.
That's like the most idealmartial art for me to be
learning for self defense, whichis just so funny because like,
we were just talking about thison the car ride here, it's like,
I did not think that it was evernot gonna be self defense, but

(16:33):
it's the last thing I thinkabout when I train now.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
You know?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
But I think then, I just decided, I was so nervous
to walk into the Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You were like, was gonna ask you that question now.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah. So did you go on Google and like just look up?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
And And the gym was suggested to me, so that's where
it's like, okay, if somebody'sgonna give me advice on where to
go, great.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Was so nervous to walk into the gym, I had my
friend do my intro lesson withme. So, I was like, okay, at
least I'll have like a System.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah. I

Speaker 1 (17:01):
just He needed like just a face there that like I
wouldn't be so scared because Idid not know what I was walking
into.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Plus you're not like, you're walking into a very
close, like, close quarterspractice that is going to
trigger what you just went Yeah.So Yeah. So smart of you to have
an anchor, to bring an anchorwith you, a familiar face there.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
And something that's cool about the gym too is
there's, it's a one on one. So Iwasn't thrown into a class Oh.
Where I was now gonna be put inthat maybe like, I didn't know
how I was gonna feel. Sure. Soit was just a one on one and
that way my friend was like agood sized body of me to like
work the moves on whatever I waslearning.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah. That's actually from what you guys have told me
about your school, Long Island,like, they they seem to have a
good business operation goingYeah. That's a very smart
because a lot of the times yougo to these jitsu school, but
it's just a person opening up aschool. But you go and they're
like, oh, go ahead. Go

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah. You get lost in the background.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
We start in five. Yeah. And then you're, like,
running around doing backwardanswering.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well, the thing is, like, for some people, like, you
know, different strokes,different folks. For some
people, they might wanna just gointo the tank and just figure it
out. Yeah. That's how their,like, brain works. Yeah.
For other people, like thesituation you were coming in,
you're coming from a verysensitive situation, like that
was, I would, I don't use the pword often, but maybe the
perfect on ramp for jiu jitsufor you at the time.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah. It was like I needed, the keyword. Yeah. I
needed that to be like, okay,I'm after as soon as it was
done, I think like as soon as itstarted, I was like, oh, I'm
signing

Speaker 2 (18:29):
up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I was like, this isn't even I was like, I like
this. This feels good.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Had you had any background in athletics or
sports?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I played tennis actually. Yeah. Which people
think you like don't have to beathletic for. But you do.
Absolutely do.
And that's like the only realsport that I did. I did that in
high school and both my brothersare really good at tennis. So
that was like the family sport.But other than that, what I was
lacking was a hobby. I didn'thave anything.

(19:00):
So, I would wake up, go to work,come home, go to bed. I didn't
go to the gym, I didn't doanything. I literally had
nothing. So, like, yeah, you'regonna be like depressed.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Like, don't have anything. So this, Dude Just You
wasn't just me like, I thoughtit was just me like, I'm gonna
learn how to defend myself, getenough skills and that's it,
right? But it's like, okay now,like I have a hobby now, wait, I
feel like I have a purpose. Idon't feel like I'm just like,
you know, working to live andjust like life just goes on and
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, you're fulfilled.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You feel

Speaker 3 (19:30):
a sense of coming in Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
%.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
It helps when you're good at it. I was gonna say, you
you said in the beginning thatyou're like like you need
searching for something to makeyou feel better essentially for
I butchered whatever you said,but I was like, that's crazy
because you do make me feelworse.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah. But you keep you keep coming back.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I also like have short term memory loss. Like,
don't even, if I was bad oneday, like, when I think back
about on my jujitsu journey,like, don't even remember
struggling with certain thingswhich is like kind of ironic
because like, I know I did orlike, Al will show me a move and
I'll be like, it'll store in theback of my brain and then like,
a year later I'll be like, lookat this sick thing I figured
out. Right? And he's like, Ishowed that to you a year ago. I

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hadn't made that up.
So that also helps.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Listen, I think, I don't know if you you clinically
have short term

Speaker 2 (20:18):
memory loss. Okay. Alright. Don't take this.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I don't wanna affect you. It's not clinically, but I
literally don't remember certainthings.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
That's

Speaker 3 (20:24):
good. So that's actually a good thing. It's good
entrepreneurship. It's good injujitsu. Had I have big short
term memory loss.
Clinically.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
There are some no.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
No. Not

Speaker 1 (20:34):
clinically. I don't know. You asked me something.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I have, like, the mind of an elephant.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Thank you for checking that. I appreciate
that.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I have

Speaker 2 (20:40):
remember everything.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Like, Drew

Speaker 2 (20:42):
will tell you.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like, I have a very good memory.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Like, I remember conversations we had, like, two
years ago. Yeah. Like, I get it.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
But I have a habit of, like, forgetting the shit
that I should forget. Yeah. Iforget some stuff I shouldn't
forget sometimes, and now that Isaid that, I just remembered
something I

Speaker 2 (20:54):
was supposed to do today that

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I didn't do. But anyway,

Speaker 2 (20:57):
having to return memory losses, it's it's
important

Speaker 3 (21:00):
in entrepreneurship and jujitsu. I had a moment this
Sunday. Somebody many pulled measide after opened my mat and
they were like, hey, look, like,is getting really good. Like,
good work. And I, like,appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
And immediately, I had a memory of my first class,
and I wore my gi pants onbackwards.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh, my God. Know, didn't go to gi classes because
I didn't know how to tie mybelt, and I was so mortified.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah. So

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I put my

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I wish you showed up.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I tied the belt, but it was all back.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah. It was all backwards. He tied belt behind
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah. So it like I had I was like, wow. I
completely, like, forgot aboutthat. And in this moment, it,
like, came back. Yeah.
You know what I mean? So I'm I'ma fan of short term memory loss.
Not clinical.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Just No. Not clinical. Purposeful.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Not Yeah. We did this or that episode before you came.
And curious. Gee or no gee?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
No ghee. You should know this drill.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well, I said I really don't have a preference
personally. I do I do know youtrain ghee though. Right? Sorry.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah. I I trained in the ghee. Now, it's more of like
a you have to take your medicinekind of thing. Yeah. You know?
Yeah. It's like I have to trainin the ghee because I gotta at
least make it like, I at leasthave to make it like one or two
classes in the gi. Yeah. Itstarted that my schedule didn't
allow me to train in the gi. SoI was just not able to make the
classes, so then you hate itbecause you suck in it so much.

(22:12):
Yeah. So I'm like, why are yougrabbing me? I can't get you off
of me. I don't like this. Nogi'sjust like, it's so much more
fast paced and it's so much morelike, I can just fucking fly and
jump on top of you and like docrazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
You are like a spider monkey kind of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I just like, Whatever happens happens.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Here I am.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
The other jiu jitsu related question we had was
start from standing or pullguard?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
So we're ever evolving just like a Right?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Work in progress.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
It was guard pulling all the time, every day

Speaker 2 (22:44):
of the All the time.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
All. All. All. And I just recently started taking
wrestling classes. Yeah.
And now it's wrestling like isbuffering in my brain. Like it's
not like you could teach mesomething in jitsu and I can get
it and like I can implement itand then wrestling it's like,
okay, here's my window ofopportunity, it's gone. I can't

(23:08):
force it. Like I need you toreact a certain way. So
therefore, it's harder for mebut I am enjoying the process
and so I would say, I'm fiftyfifty on that one.
The

Speaker 3 (23:20):
wrestling Your wrestling journey as you
described it is my wrestlingjourney. Well,

Speaker 2 (23:24):
we're in a state.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
It's literally the same thing. Like, with jujitsu,
you show me something, I get it.Now what Danny and Nick showed

Speaker 2 (23:30):
me at the seminar, took

Speaker 3 (23:32):
me a minute.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I was telling her that

Speaker 3 (23:33):
it Took me a minute.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
You real it's like a geometry class. It's just it's
so

Speaker 3 (23:37):
much at once. You know what I mean? But it's so
much at once, but it's not. Onceyou, like, unlock the first
three things, you're like, oh,

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I get this.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah. You know?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Whereas the old school approach is like, oh, pin
pin arm down, put arm on like,

Speaker 1 (23:48):
it's just

Speaker 3 (23:48):
very Wrestling for me, same thing. Like you said,
like, jujitsu, you show mesomething. You only have to show
me once. Yeah. I have to gothrough a couple iterations, but
then I got it.
Wrestling, I'm like, buffering.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Wrestling is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh, wrestling is insane. Yeah. People that are
like, your parent put you intowrestling when you were like
five, I'm envious of you. Yeah.Yeah.
That it's, you know, I'm notmaking any excuses, know, I'm in
this for the long haul, but Iwish. Let's

Speaker 2 (24:15):
just say Well, son started wrestling at four. Yeah.
But hear me So I had this dreamfor like a a state champion in
high school, and he just did nothe did it well. He was he was a
good wrestler, but he just didnot like it at all.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
No. Aw.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
And, like, I I just feel like you need that dog in
you. And he doesn't have anyolder brothers. Right? He's the
only child. Like, a lot of thekids I feel like took to
wrestling take to wrestling atthat young age are getting like
they have that dog in them.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh, they're animals.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah. They kinda

Speaker 1 (24:46):
they scare me.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So I was like, alright. I was trying to do it
to the time. I was like,alright. You come try to
jujitsu. Yeah.
And we'll see how you like that.And then you can pick. And he
like, dad, I love jujitsu. Andlike now he's training multiple
times a day, but I would love II asked him last night, like,
oh, when are gonna startwrestling again? He said, never.
I'm like, alright. You say thatYeah. But freshman year in high
school, I'm like, yeah. What'slike, you've been trained you've

(25:07):
been trained jujitsu since youwere five, six, like you're
going

Speaker 1 (25:10):
to make it realizes that his jujitsu needs
wrestling, then he'llvoluntarily play.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But that's part of the issue is that movement is
very guard heavy. And his guardis so good that he doesn't need
wrestling at all. He they startpulling guard. So.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
But when he does get to high school, when he starts
wrestling, he'll be, like, waymore equipped.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Exactly. The first time he's ready. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Right. Yeah. He'll have a great guard. Then guess
what? You'll learn wrestling.
You'll be so good. You'll beunselfishable.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah. Exactly. That's the goal.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
No one will touch you.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm I'm holding now hope that my that my state
champion days are still ahead ofme.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I say start building the trophy case now. Yeah. Start
building the trophy case now sothat when he gets there, you're
good. Just pop it right in. Justpop it right in the case.
What else on jujitsu? Wanna talkabout anything else jujitsu?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
No no other this or that questions.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
No? No. What what has I don't know if we fully
articulated it, maybe. But whatis it about jujitsu that you
love the most? Like, looking atyour journey thus far, you
mentioned, you know, camaraderieand the friendships and all of
that.
But as you've gone through yourjourney, is there

Speaker 2 (26:17):
something that you love the most? To add on to
that. Like, when did it changefrom like, okay, this is cool,
I'm doing this all the time tolike, okay, I'm gonna Yeah.
Wait. So I can shout

Speaker 1 (26:25):
you guys out

Speaker 2 (26:25):
here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I can. Okay. Really? Because you guys were

Speaker 2 (26:28):
a part of

Speaker 3 (26:28):
this. Mean, you're here.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Let's do it. Yes. When I first started training,
again, was like self defense. Iwas like, I'm this is just for
fun, and like, to learn how todefend myself. And then, know,
Al's like, well you should like,you know, think about competing.
And I'm like, yeah, right. Neverhappening, that's so scary.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Never happening. Then, I'm scrolling on
Instagram, and then I'm like,wait, this girl's cool. She
competes. Molly.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah. Yeah. Molly.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
So I'm like, oh my god. Wait, she's really cool.
Okay. Maybe cool girls compete.Yeah.
Fuck. So then I'm like, okay.And then I find Amanda and I'm
like, fuck this girl too? Yeah.I'm like these girls are so cool
and like, I guess this is what Ihave to do.
Yeah. I guess if I wanna be hotgirl jujitsu That's amazing. I
have to compete.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And then, that kind of gave me like the, I guess
push of being like, yeah, do it.Like, look, these girls are cool
and they're doing it. Like, waslike, alright, maybe I'll do it.
So then a year into training, Idid my first, it was like a
local tournament. Mhmm.
And my journey on competing has,I think in the beginning, it was

(27:42):
just highs. I was just like,this is so much fun. Yeah. Like,
this is good, like, I'm I hadthis like, oh, you're you're
fucking scared of me likementality.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And then somewhere along the way it's like, okay,
where'd that girl go? She'skinda scared.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
She's I'm scared now. Really? I'm learning to find the
joy in competing again.Obviously, this year for me has
been like a busy year. I starteda business with my sister, we
have our podcast, so we have alot of stuff going on.
So, competing took a little bitof the back burner there.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
But this year, I'm planning on competing a lot more
and really focusing on findingthe joy in competing again.
Sure. I saw Brianna St. Mariepost something about that and I
was like, oh, that reallyresonates with me.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Did you have a lot of success with competing in the
beginning? Is that Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
And I think I set then this expectation for
myself.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
This is how it was gonna be. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
And then you start realizing that like, as you
start working your way

Speaker 2 (28:44):
up Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
All these motherfuckers are just as good.
Yeah. So Yeah. It's not, it's Ithink competing is a skill in
itself that you have to developand it's like, can be, you know,
great in the training room but Ican walk out there on the mats
and not do any of that jujitsu.And I think that's the feeling.
That disappointment is what Idon't like feeling.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
It's like I didn't do any of my jujitsu. So

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I mean, think we we describe those as a journey.
Right? Like a lot of times youstart it and it's fun, and then
it gets hard, and then you'relike, wait a second, where's the
fun part? And then you work yourway through it, then it gets fun
again, then it gets moredifficult. So like, it's a
journey.
Yeah. You know, it's a journey.One thing that in the beginning
of your journey

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
You're kinda like, hey, I'm doing jujitsu for fun
and for to learn how to defendmyself. Like, you're latching
those two things together, and Ithink that's, like, really
unique. Because I I don't knowhow coming from, like, DV like,
a a a a violent situation whereyou're looking to learn how to
defend yourself and still beinglike, hey. Let's just sprinkle

(29:53):
the fun in.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah. I can't even like

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Maybe it's your personality.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I can't even fully credit myself. I think, yes, it
is my personality. I think I'vedone a lot of mental work on
becoming a more positive personand I think it's easy to say
like, just be positive and thenit's like, oh, say that to me.
Like, what do you mean just bepositive? Everything sucks.
How do you want me to just bepositive? Yeah. You know, when
you change the way you look atthings, the things you look at

(30:18):
change. So, I think that a lotof like my mental work and I
stopped viewing myself as like avictim to my circumstances.
Mhmm.
What do you want? Like I wantpeople to feel sorry for me, no.
Like I don't wanna just be avictim and live in this
mentality of like, wellsomething bad happened to me and
that's why I'm here and blahblah blah. I didn't wanna feel
that way. Yep.

(30:39):
So, think that's part of it is Idid a lot of mental work, a lot
of like gratitude and just beingmore present and everything like
that. And I credit also a lot ofit to like the environment. I
think the environment thatyou're in, if the coach is a
good coach and they're making itfun for you and they keep you

(31:00):
engaged and it's not If you feelcared about and seen and all
that, I mean, I can only creditAl for all of that for me.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Shout out Al.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I don't think I would fall in love with it if I didn't
start where I started with thecoach I started with. Yeah. I
think that really plays like a abig part.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah. So well said. So well said.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Al, did you suggest she competes just because that's
what people do or did you seepotential? Definitely saw
potential. Yeah. Yeah. He

Speaker 1 (31:34):
thinks I'm gonna be like some crazy world champion.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Naturally, just like aggressive.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. Yeah. She's killing it.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
The dog. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Which, you know Eagle. Not everyone wants to be
friends with you then, butthat's what's That's okay.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
You're the aggressive role. I think mostly,

Speaker 3 (31:52):
you were saying, maybe not everybody wants to be
a friend when you got the theeagle in you, right? But I think
most people come around becausemost people wanna feel that type
of power. Yeah. You know what Imean? And I think most people
come The

Speaker 2 (32:03):
right people come Yeah, they

Speaker 1 (32:04):
And if not, that, I think you find the right people.
Yeah. I think you're not alwaysmaybe placed into the
environment with them, but like,for instance, like, from me
going starting jiu jitsu, beingon my phone scrolling, seeing
these two girls being like, oh,they're so cool. Now like, I'm
friends with them.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Like, we're friendly. We, you know, we see each other
here, whatever. Yep. So I thinkyou then are placed into that
community of the right people.And I didn't need to force
anything.
I wasn't there to make friends.I was there to learn how to
defend myself. If friends camealong, great. And people come
and people go.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
And I think that's you know, just a part of the
journey.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
And yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah. So you said you had a lot going on this year,
right? A lot of good stuff,right? So you mentioned business
and podcast with your So whydon't you tell a few a little
bit about those two things?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah. As for our business, you know, I'm your
social media girly. So, it's allthings content creation. So,
it's businesses, it's reallyweddings is what we like jumped
into that was is kind of like onthe up and coming content
creation weddings. It's like anewer thing.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Oh, is. And I'd say it's crazy. People great
business to get into becausepeople have no budget when it
comes to the wedding. Oh, peopleare Like they'll spend Mhmm.
It's like, photographer, levy,could be $8,000 for a wedding,
$500 on a different day.
Yeah. Mean, like, people just

Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's like wedding? Oh, the price is up.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah. And and people are like, you know what? Great
price. I'll take it. So true.
It is true. It is true.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
We try not to take advantage of people. Don't get
me wrong.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
So are you so are you are like boots on the ground at
the wedding Yeah. Like creatingcontent? Yeah. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah. I play very awesome. I've always like been
into content creation so gettinginto this was like kind of
comfortable rounds in thatsense. Honestly, I shout out the
bride that just took a chance onus with no nothing to show. I
had nothing like no portfolio.
She just like trusted me. Yeah.And I'm like thank you because

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Did she pay you for that?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
That's cool. Shout

Speaker 1 (34:05):
out. Like it wasn't just like a trial, like she
fully like was our first personwith nothing, no portfolio to
show and I think once people sawwhat we could do, because it's a
little bit different, thecontent we're shooting isn't
traditionally like contentcreation for weddings is just
all on your phone. But we'redoing it on a camera, so it's a
little bit more elevatedcontent. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's

Speaker 1 (34:26):
it. Yeah. And it just, it itches my brain the
right way. Love Where

Speaker 2 (34:34):
do I go to?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Thebridalclub.bts.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I'm sorry, don't

Speaker 3 (34:39):
So shout out First customers. Yes. And how
important they are. On yourjourney. And sometimes I don't
think they know how importantthey are.
Oh, yeah. Like you go into aI'll say sandwich shop because
that's like where I see them allthe time. You go into like a
sandwich shop and they havetheir first dollar. Yeah. Like
that the customers are

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah. Like framed on the on the wall. And it's Drew's
Drew's pulling up a live look.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I just had a I

Speaker 2 (35:01):
just had

Speaker 1 (35:01):
a viral one. Swipe down.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
That is legit, dude. Like, the not what I expect. I
expected something much more

Speaker 1 (35:11):
My favorite one's pinned.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
So are you working so do you sometimes show up to the
wedding and there's aphotographer there that you've
never okay. Alright.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
There's photographers and videographers, and then
sometimes it's just me.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I'm just like the background girly, pretend I'm
not Got

Speaker 3 (35:27):
you.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
You know, some people like are super receptive to it,
other photographers obviouslylike they're used to being the
photographer so like they're notused to like having another
person there. I just try not toget any in anybody's way, but

Speaker 3 (35:43):
To not get in anybody's way, to have that
approach, to like be the ninjaand create that type of content
is pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah. That's the content too. Like, what's that?
Like, that's not.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
They're not like just your typical real No.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I like, we really care. Like we really care about
what we put out and like itneeds to be perfect. Yeah. It it
will not be anything less

Speaker 3 (36:05):
than It needs to be the p word.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
It needs to be the p word. I used it. And I and I
also just love it. So like Ineed to remind myself to like
take a break. Yeah.
Like I love it so much that likeI will stay up all hours of
night if I'm editing somethingand just keep going because I
love it.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
That's how you That's how you know.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I was gonna say your first customer, one, probably
paid a a banger price, but alsoprobably got triple the value.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
She got so many reels.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Are you posting too at like live posting? No. Okay.
So you're doing post.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
That could be a service. Oh, okay. It's an add
on.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
But it is an add on. But we it's all like raw footage
and then you get it the next dayand then depending on what
package you choose, you can gethowever many completed reels.
You can get, you know, three,whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
She's locked in. I knew it was going on, so forgive
me. Knew it was going on, I knewwhat you were up to, but I
didn't realize the extent to it.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah. You were up to it.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
And I can't say it's all me. It's dope. My little my
little assistant over there, hehe helps a We

Speaker 2 (37:07):
know who gets the angles. Yeah. We we we know.
Yeah. Who gets

Speaker 3 (37:10):
the angles?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
But yeah. So that's been like our new endeavor this
year, and it's taken off. Wehave weddings booked until like
2026 which is just crazy tothink of. But me and my sister
are both so creative so it waslike we didn't have anywhere
that was like fulfilling Us Anoutlet. Yeah.
And also like it is nice that wecan also make money from it.
Yep. You know? Sure. Sure.

(37:32):
Loving that. And then ourpodcast, back to what you were
saying, is we started it tohonor our dad. So he was like
the wisest man ever and he justhad so many little like phrases
and things like that that likenow on my journey of like
becoming better with like mymindset and everything like

(37:54):
that, I'm like, oh, great.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Makes sense, right?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah. This makes sense. But I think a lot of
times with like parents, youdon't realize that until they're
here anymore unfortunately. ButI think that I feel almost even
like a stronger connection withhim now and feel like guidance
through those things. Yeah.
So, our idea with podcast is welike to sprinkle in little bits

(38:17):
of like him. Mhmm. It's kind oflike a self help sort of way,
but like in like a hot girl way.Like in a way that's just like,
we're just girls chitchatting.We're just two sisters.
We're just having fun.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Don't think I understand

Speaker 3 (38:32):
the hot girl. Do you understand the

Speaker 1 (38:34):
hot I

Speaker 2 (38:37):
think you should define it for people that like a
hot girl is like, that's like,

Speaker 1 (38:40):
you you No.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You don't have to be Yeah. It's your it's your
identity.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
It's your aura honestly.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
It's your

Speaker 3 (38:44):
energy. The energy you give off. It's like

Speaker 1 (38:46):
a few energy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I identify as a hot girl.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I know. You're the original hot girl.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Bro, between bro, between

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You're the

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah. You

Speaker 2 (38:54):
dig your own home, bro. I don't even have to dig
one for you.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
On The Real, I wait. I'm not I'm not a hot girl, but
I wanna wear a matching set. AndI said, anyone can be a girl.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
There There you go. So Yo, Dane. You gotta put that
in the trailer, bro. It's gonnabe like

Speaker 1 (39:09):
He's he's zoned out.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Duh. Yeah. Dane, you missed a gem, man. You missed a
gem, like, sixty seconds ago.Yeah.
Yeah. Danny's actually weweren't

Speaker 1 (39:19):
recording this whole time.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah. Alright. Right. Dude, can

Speaker 1 (39:22):
you go back

Speaker 2 (39:23):
to the part where you said you I'm not even gonna say
it out loud. Yeah. Yeah. Cut itup. And then it's gonna be me
saying it.
I don't know. I'm gonna I'mgonna stay away from that. I'm
gonna go with this new energy.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I What's

Speaker 2 (39:34):
the name

Speaker 3 (39:35):
of the podcast?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Oh, the name of the podcast is the Yes, for the
iMan. My dad like fully thoughtlike everything was like named
after him. So like Uh-huh. Hehad like, he's like the iPhone.
That's like, because my name

Speaker 2 (39:48):
is That's funny.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Ira, and he's like, he drove an I eight, he's like,
yeah, that's because That'samazing. Yeah, he was just like,
he was in his own world and Ithink that's like really what I
try to emulate of like, healways say like, keep the focus
on yourself, keep God in yourlife and the rest means dip.
Wow. So like keep the focus onyourself.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
You know, have your faith in whatever you need to
believe in, the universe, God,whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Say it one more time.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Keep the focus on yourself.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Keep God in your life and the rest means dip.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Wow. I like that. I really like that.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Had so many little Ira isms, we call The

Speaker 3 (40:20):
first part of it, keep the focus on yourself, some
people will hear that and think,well that's selfish.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
But in reality Yeah. It's you filling your Yeah. So
that when it overflows, you giveto others. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah. I think you can take it in so many different
ways too. Like keep the focus onyourself, like, don't be so
focused on what everybody elseis doing.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Because your comparison, it's the thief of
joy, right? Yeah. So keep thefocus on yourself in that sense.
But just, it translates to somany different parts of life.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I had a question for you that I wasn't gonna ask, but
now I'm gonna ask because weclarified that. In this space,
your content creation businessis called what again? I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
The Bridal Club.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
The Bridal Club. BTS, right? Is there a lot of
competition in that space? And Ididn't ask the question because
I am, like, the like, if you askme to name, like, people that
compete in Fuel Hunt, like, Ican't I can't do it. Like, I can
name a couple people thatwhatever.
But, like, competition is thelast thing on my fucking mind.
But since we just had thatdiscussion about I'm genuine

(41:25):
genuinely curious about justlike

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I

Speaker 3 (41:27):
wish I the business landscape.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I wish I knew. I'm so like I literally think like what
I have to offer, I don't thinkanyone's doing the same thing.
Boom. I think, yes, maybethere's other content creators,
but what you're getting with meand my sister is it's we're on a
different level.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
It seems like a unique model to me and like
that's why I ask like you haveeverything that it takes to make
it successful and I just wonderhow many people out there are
trying to do the same thing.Think it's also Business
curiosity.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Your personality matters. Like Oh. When you're
getting somebody like you needto feel like that person's your
best friend on your wedding day.Mhmm. So it can't be somebody
who can't you need to be

Speaker 3 (42:04):
a personality. You

Speaker 2 (42:05):
have to

Speaker 3 (42:05):
have the feeling of this person gets me.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Because they are taking or cares. Right? You're
creating Yes. You're you'reactually solidifying their
moments. You're you're creatingsomething tangible so they

Speaker 1 (42:17):
can relive their I fully cry.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Dude. I was at a wedding most recently with that.
They had a content creator, butthat was my first experience
with one. But they weren't even,like, super close friends. I got
emotional.
I feel like weddings just makeme emotional in general.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah. I mean, when I spoke at your wedding, cried. I
mean, I cried.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I cried like a baby. What day

Speaker 3 (42:36):
is it?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Oh, a cry baby. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. But like, if
I'm watching a movie, I'm notreally gonna cry. No.
But in like real life instances

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I cried at Bluey, man. Yeah. When we watch him
Bluey,

Speaker 1 (42:48):
cried. Bluey?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I cried

Speaker 2 (42:49):
at Bluey.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
He's lost.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I I can't say I'm a

Speaker 1 (42:52):
hot God forbid. It's a

Speaker 2 (42:54):
little different. Is it? It's a little different.
Really? I think.
I think it's a little different,man. I'm Bluey. I'm, you know, I
let my emotions out. On mywedding

Speaker 1 (43:03):
on your sleeve.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
On my wedding day, I cried. Like, I I sobbed. Like,
it was I got the waves ofemotion is what gets me.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
I think I held my emotions in for way too long.
So, I'm still, like, I stillhave emotions from like twenty
five years ago that I'm stillletting out. I'm still letting
out. No,

Speaker 1 (43:21):
that's real. Yeah. That's real It's so for real.
Yeah. Like, I've always beensomebody who has like been able
to like verbalize how I'mfeeling

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
To a fault clearly. But, it's never been something
that I've struggled with, soI've always said how I feel
Mhmm. And actually I had tolearn the opposite of maybe you
don't need to maybe you don'tneed to say that. Yeah. Maybe
keep that to yourself.
Yeah. Because not everybody hasyour best interest at heart
simply for that. Is that if you,I would tend to be vulnerable

(43:52):
with people who, wow, I justtold you how I feel about all
these things and you're gonnatake advantage of me.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yes. Or you're you know, use it against you

Speaker 1 (43:59):
in another situation

Speaker 2 (44:00):
or I think

Speaker 1 (44:00):
it's more so like you gotta protect yourself.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I've said this before, but I do agree is that
people don't necessarily wantwhat's best for you. They want
what's best for them for you.Mhmm. And I think that comes out
in a lot of your interactionwith people in in in daily life
is sad, that is to say.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I mean, think some of it's subconscious, to be honest.
I mean, there are people outthere that are just, like,
gamers, and they 're trying tomanipulate you or whatever, but
I think a lot of people, it'ssubconscious. You know

Speaker 1 (44:30):
what It's just like how you're

Speaker 3 (44:33):
you I see the world this way, I see this going this
way, you have an inkling of itgoing that way too, let me push
you towards that.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I think

Speaker 3 (44:39):
it's you're

Speaker 1 (44:40):
an NPC. Like so many people are just literally NPC's
and they don't do any self workand they like don't try to
better themselves or like bedecent human beings.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I think that's what it is. Like they just are like
this is how I feel and likethat's it. I'm just gonna like
play in this game of life. Yeah.So Yeah.
I think it's just about likedoing your inner work and
becoming like emotionallyintelligent Mhmm. And like
realizing that, yes, you need tobe selfish to a certain extent
but anything in extreme is likenot good.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah. I mean, like, you should be self you should be
selfish to be selfless.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah. Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Right? I mean, that's the goal.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah. You know what

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I mean? So fill your cup till it overflows Mhmm. And
then give it away to everybodyelse. Mhmm. You know what I
mean?
And then repeat the repeat thecycle.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
You know? So as you pour in everybody else, your cup
empty, repeat the cycle.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Sounds like an aneurysm.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Oh, sounds like it. Yeah. There's so many, and now
I'm like, what else is there?Like you obviously, I'm drunk.
There's so many little

Speaker 3 (45:34):
The fact that you said in some degree you feel
closer with him now Yeah.Because of like all that
reflection, like creatingsomething and like bringing
something to life that likehonors him is amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah. Amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah. That's the point. I mean, there's so many
people that didn't get to meethim, right? Yeah. So it's like,
if I can carry on any bit of himYeah.
For all those other people,that's kind of the goal. Because
they're like light bulb moments.When you hear these things,
you're like, oh, wow. Like,that's so true.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
We've we've had a ton of them on the show recently,
and we're saying like, soundscliche until it's not.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Until hits you until it hits you at that point in
your life when you need it most.Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah. Where it all

Speaker 2 (46:14):
makes sense. Yeah. Then it all makes sense. Yeah.
You're like, wow.
Like, that's what that quotemeans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the
show, you said the name of yourshow, but where can the
community find it?
All major platforms or like?

Speaker 1 (46:25):
On Spotify recently YouTube. So I'm getting new.
Used to be like we could just bein my pajamas and be like no
one's no one's seeing this sothis doesn't matter. Yeah. But
now it's I mean it's just in myyour nice pajamas.
Yeah. In my cuter pajamas. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah. In my But

Speaker 1 (46:45):
yeah, so it's it's it's casual in the sense that
like we're just we're justchitchatting. Yeah. Like us,
we're just like we're yappingright now. There's no like
script or anything. So yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
We learned that the hard way. We when we first
started.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
We did our first couple episodes were a bit
scripted.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
We felt like we felt in they were scripted, but they
weren't. Yeah. Like, didn't sitdown and say like, this is what
we're gonna talk about. Thislike, we had that free flowing

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Script is a bad word. Yeah. Not scripted.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah. We had that

Speaker 1 (47:13):
free No. We're not like

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah. Exactly. Rigid, I

Speaker 3 (47:15):
would say. They're rigid. Because, like, for me
personally, I just felt intensepressure to always bring the
IRIS. Mhmm. You know what Imean?
Yeah. I felt intense pressure.Like, somebody's going to sit
here and listen or watch this.Yeah. And I need to make sure,
like, literally every fiveseconds Yeah.
It's adding value to theirlives.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Yeah. And it was very rigid. Was a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
People just wanna see you guys. They just wanna see,
like, oh, who are these behindFuel On? Yeah. Like, what

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Well, they wanna see this. They wanna see jamming
about real life and Yeah. How wefeel. And if something, you
know, quotable spins out of itYeah. Great.
Great.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I was gonna say that's the thing. A lot of these
times we instead of trying sohard to deliver iorisms or
value, like, we just end uptalking and delivering value
through our words. Yeah. And andclever things. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Speaking from radiance. I mean, that's how
Bedros said it. Speaking fromradiance, like, you know, you're
like Yeah. You're just lettingit shine. Mhmm.
You know what I mean? And thenand then the the quotables or
the value, it just comes outnaturally.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
You know?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I think that's the best way to do it. I again, I
tried to like because I'll starttalking about one thing, like,
you'll ask me a question andI'll start talking, answering
it, and I'm like, wait, did Ieven answer the question? Yeah.
So I do the same thing that'swhere like me and my sister are
a good team like she'll groundme and like wait you didn't you
didn't answer what we'resupposed to do. So I think there
needs to be a balance in everyteam, right?
Yeah. There's like

Speaker 3 (48:30):
For sure. For sure.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah. How it works.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah. Drew's the fun one and I'm the not.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I'm the fun one Drew. So I get it.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Exactly. Exactly. Not the workhorse. I I wanna take
that to to the gray that Daliasaid I don't work.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
No. He's literally speaking my She said paid actor.
I said you're a paid actorbecause you are.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
So that doesn't insinuate you don't work.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Actors work, dude.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah. Well, I said I hosted the last episode we just
did. And now I told Joey the thepart of his paycheck that goes
for hosting the podcast is nowcoming to my position.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Well, it's a zero.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
So zero on the paycheck that goes, so now you
just got zero. And you're nottaking all of I truly know the
shots either, dude. So they'reI'm they're staying with me,
man. There's no one day when itcomes we do get paid for it.
Exactly.
Alright. Yeah. I'll I'll breakyou off. Exactly. One your show,
I believe there's a

Speaker 3 (49:16):
bit of manifestation talk on your Okay. So talking
about manifesting. Mhmm. Sosince probably episode the first
time you intro'd and took the,you know, the wheel on the show,
I've been saying, I'm gonna losemy job. I'm gonna lose my job.
I'm literally manifesting.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah. Like now, I'm gonna do I didn't wanna do it.
Like Yeah. Joey does speak muchbetter than me at this point,
and maybe not forever, but oneday I want that. That's a
threat.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
But so I'd always like shy away from anything like
And then I just eventually juststarted doing it. I think I do a
much better job of it now andeven just speaking in general.
But

Speaker 3 (49:54):
it's hard to listen to some of those, like, I'll be
honest, it's like hard to listento some of those original
episodes.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Not because they never I would never

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I can't either.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Not because they weren't

Speaker 3 (50:02):
like and I'm sure that 50 episodes from now,

Speaker 1 (50:05):
you're gonna see the same thing.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
No. Nothing. No shade. You're amazing.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
It's all I'm gonna

Speaker 3 (50:09):
hate this Yeah. 50 episodes.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah. It's almost because you're If you scroll to
our 5,000 posts, we I I lookedat so we have 5,000

Speaker 3 (50:15):
That's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
It's Yeah. Because you always wanna be better.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
5,000? I wanted

Speaker 2 (50:18):
to make a big thing. Yeah. We it's current we we
shouldn't. We should take themall down and just go ahead.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Growth,

Speaker 2 (50:23):
man. It's

Speaker 1 (50:24):
growth. Growth. Don't you know?

Speaker 2 (50:26):
You mean you don't like our photos of Michael
Jordan that we used to post?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Aw.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
With our text overlays? Exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
No. It's growth. You know?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
No. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
You have to It's growth. That that's the thing is
like you have to startsomewhere. Like me and my sister
would've started this businessor this podcast if we wanted it
to be perfect right off the bat.Right? So you you'll learn with
anything you're starting as yougo.
You can't like not if you're soscared of messing up that you
just don't do it, then you'renever going to do it. Yeah. So
you just gotta.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
That's why it's important to have this
conversation because there'ssomebody that's gonna watch
this.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yes. And

Speaker 3 (50:58):
be like, I'm sure. They're gonna watch one of the
quotable parts and they're gonnabe like, those pe I can't be
like those people because thosepeople have something I don't
have. So I'll never start ashow. You know what I mean? Or
I'll never start a business.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
But the reality of it is, we're the same person. It's
just we started already and wedidn't quit.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah. I think a lot of it is like here too. Like if
you constantly think you'regoing to fail, you're gonna
fail. Mhmm. But if you believe,like for instance, this is
something silly.
I was at in on the new year, meand Al made a list of stuff that
you know, we wanna achieve thisyear.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Love that.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
We have it hanging on our fridge.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Love

Speaker 1 (51:37):
that. And so, originally we were making the
list and I was like, no no no nono. We have to start over. We're
doing this wrong. We're sayingthese We have to say these
things like they alreadyhappened.
Mhmm. So, then we take out a newpiece of paper, we write them as
if they already happened, hangit on the fridge. One of my
things is that one of my bridalclub videos is gonna go viral
and we're gonna book a bunch ofweddings. What happens?

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
One of my videos goes viral, has over a hundred
thousand views and yeah, theweddings are gonna come. So, I
really fully believe that ifyou're looking for good things
to happen to you, good thingsare gonna happen to you. And
that's where I did get intomanifesting, I wanna say like a
year ago.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I found a podcast called Manifesting Miracles. And
it was like, you know, a littlecheesy, but I was like, you know
what, like, just wanna, I wannabe a better version of myself.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Is, it's it's woo woo, and it's cheesy until it
isn't. Yeah. Until your realgoes viral,

Speaker 2 (52:33):
until you're booked in through 2026 with

Speaker 3 (52:35):
your weddings, you know what I mean? Mhmm. But you
have the work ethic to back itup. Yeah. So like you said, you
get lost in your art.
Like if somebody doesn't stopyou, you will edit throughout
the night. Yep. So you have thebelief that it's going to happen
paired with the work ethic tomake it happen. And that's
that's the magic. Yeah.
Yeah. That's the manifestation.It's the magic. Agree.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
The one thing that has to get paired with that,
like you said, the work, likethe work. Mhmm. That's where
people get lost. And I thinkhave a bad relationship with the
word manifestation or think itis woo woo because they don't
see all of the work that

Speaker 1 (53:10):
also does. Can say my video is gonna go viral. But if
I don't post a video, what'sgonna go viral?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
But when they hear manifesting, think, oh, this is
some person saying

Speaker 3 (53:17):
There's also there's also some people out there, and
none of the manifestation booksare people that I follow, but
there's a lot of people outthere that will try to convince
you that your vision board'senough. Like, every day, you
just have to write it a hundredtimes over, stare at your vision
board, and it's enough. That'snot No.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
It's not

Speaker 3 (53:34):
enough. No. It's not enough. Now, will those things
spur you into action, the workYeah. To make it?
They absolutely will. So if Isee somebody, one of these
manifestation coaches, andthey're saying, look, have to
write it 100 times over everymorning in the book. Mhmm. It's
like, okay. I see where you'regoing with that, but tell the
other half of the story that,like, you are gonna feel guilty

(53:55):
as fuck Yeah.
If you don't do the thing thatyou just wrote a hundred times.
It's kinda

Speaker 1 (53:58):
like motivation versus discipline. Right? It's
kind of like the same sort ofthing.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
It is. It is. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
What I also think is interesting too that I've
learned about manifesting isthat your goals and your
manifestations are nice, butthey don't just show up to you
on a silver platter. Right?Like, it's not like I manifested
this and then it came in the theway I thought it was going to
come. Mhmm. It comes to you in adifferent way, on a different
journey, on a different path.

(54:25):
Yep. Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I think, again, I said it like a little while ago,
like, when you change the wayyou look at things, things you
look at change, right? Mhmm.Like, if I got into a car
accident, right? Mhmm. God forfucking bid.
Yeah. And I got a new car, Icould look at that like, that is
the shittiest fucking thing. Ican't believe I got into a
fucking car accident. My lifesucks. Blah blah blah.

(54:46):
Or I could look at it like,wait, look at this brand new car
I

Speaker 3 (54:49):
just And I walked away from the accident.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah. Like I walked away from the

Speaker 3 (54:51):
accident and I got a brand new car like

Speaker 2 (54:54):
You could have been manifesting a new car that year.
That's insane. That's what I'msaying. That could be

Speaker 1 (54:58):
the Yeah. Like you could be saying that you wanted
you wanted a new car whatever itBut it that is not ideal maybe
the way it happened. But forinstance, my sister bought her
house, hated her kitchen. Couldnot sand her kitchen. It was
weird.
It was like blue and like allstainless steel. No offense if
that's her kitchen.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
So then, I was gonna fuck this girl's

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Someone's sitting in their kitchen like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
You know what? I was with this all fifty seven
minutes. Now I'm fucking out ofhere.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Good bitch. This is what

Speaker 3 (55:27):
hot girl kitchens are?

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I'm out. I'm out. So she loved her house, hated her
kitchen. What happens? Her househas a flood.
Yep. Guess what? Insurancecovers all of the repairs. She
gets new floors and a brand

Speaker 2 (55:43):
new kitchen. Yeah. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
You know, it sucks. You have

Speaker 2 (55:45):
to be

Speaker 1 (55:45):
But. You have to

Speaker 3 (55:48):
be really careful with where you point the
manifestation. You gotta be realcareful, right?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
It's more so like if you look at everything bad that
happens to you, right? Yep.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
As

Speaker 1 (55:58):
this is happening to me, not for me.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Life is gonna suck. Oh yeah. But if you look at
everything like this ishappening for me

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Everything is good.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Even the bad things are good. Yep. And guess what,
if I never had that reallyshitty situation, I would never
start a Jiu Jitsu.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
You wouldn't have the life you're

Speaker 1 (56:13):
living now. I wouldn't be sitting here right
Yeah. Or even like I literallycall me crazy, I would when I
remember seeing you guys in thebeginning, I'm like, just wait.
I was like, I'm gonna be there.Yeah.
I'm gonna be there and I'm gonnabe modeling for Fuel Hunt. I
literally manifested this.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
And I was like, me and my Me and my sister were
literally like, wait, this iscrazy, this is really happening.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yeah. That's

Speaker 1 (56:32):
crazy. Like, you're really you're really doing it.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
And it's like you guys feel like you're just like
normal people but like you havelike a impact on people. Was
like, I'm gonna do this. This isa goal I wanna achieve. Yeah.
Right?
Yeah. So it's just cool how likeshit like that happens. We

Speaker 3 (56:47):
There's a a book, Law of Attraction, and in that book
he calls it the book of proof.So I don't know

Speaker 2 (56:52):
if you're a book of proof person,

Speaker 3 (56:54):
but like when things like that happen Mhmm. I write
them down. Okay. Now at thispoint, like I have a really good
I'm very good at keeping recordsmentally of my book of proof.
But things get hard.
Things don't work out the waythat you think they're going to
work out or the way you wantthem to work out sometimes. But
it's really important to keep arecord of the things that just
work out. Yeah. Because that'sproof

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
That the energy that you're directing, both the
belief and the work Mhmm. Whenyou direct it towards something,
it can happen. Mhmm. You know

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I My dad used to say that you get a book, a
composition notebook and youwrite everything down in the
front of the book that you wannahappen and anything bad you can
write in the back of the book.Yeah. And that was like, he'd
say that to me and he'll belike, okay, yeah, okay, Leave me
alone. Yeah. And then now I'mlike, what am I doing every
morning when I'm freakingjournaling?
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
If you don't write that stuff, what a wise man. If
you don't write that stuff inthe back of the book, it lives
inside you. Mhmm. Mhmm. Then itprevents the things from that
are in the front of the bookfrom

Speaker 1 (57:52):
ever happening.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Okay. So that's, like, a a fear journaling

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah. Like, methodology. Yeah. Yeah.
Powerful stuff.
It's fun you say that. I reallydon't even know how Talia crept
into our life. I feel like shewas I just feel been here. Like
like, I literally can't tell youwhen we reach out or what made
us reach out or how, literallyI'm like, it's how

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I think Amanda helped with the connection because I
was like, okay, like I'm ready.Again, I can say all I want that
I wanna, you know, be a part ofthis community, but if I don't
take any action, nothing's evergonna happen,

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
So, I reached out to Amanda and I was just like, hey,
like my following starting togrow and I'm starting to build
myself as a brand and you guyswere a company that I really
wanted to represent. I lovedyour gear. You guys were my
first real rash guard. I used tojust wear like long sleeves.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
And your designs I loved and I just felt like a
girl in them. Yeah. So, I waslike, you know what, I really I
really like this brand and Ireally would like them to be the
people I represent, right?

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
And so then I was like, hey, like do you think you
could help with this connect?Blah blah blah. She helped with
the connect and then

Speaker 2 (58:57):
That's great, I don't even remember that.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Off we went.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I don't have the same memory that Joey had. Have short

Speaker 1 (59:02):
You have long term.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah. I I don't know why I meant that. Remember I
don't know why I'm either.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I remember the connection, but I didn't the the
story that you told about, like,seeing Molly and Amanda and
seeing some of yourself in them,and, you know, that, like, link
of identity, that was powerfulfor you to tell. Because that
wasn't, that I didn't haveregistered, but you know.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
It was literally like, I think an ad. Like I
think it was an ad on myInstagram, but like the fact
that that snowballed into somany things I did, like I don't
even think they realized, I'mlike, oh, they probably think
I'm fucking weird. But like, Idon't even think they realize,
like, how much they haveimpacted, like, my jujitsu
journey of, like, somebody to,like, look up to. You know,
somebody that, like, does thisstuff, but, like, they're also
cool.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
It is crazy that our brand being, the the brand of
grit and hard work has taken theform of the hot the hot girl
brand too. Feel like it's init's in the hot girl industry.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
But I think it's power. I think that's what it
is. It's power. Right? Like, youdo the grit and the hard work,
you feel more powerful.
You feel like a hot girl.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Mhmm. Would say the hot girl brand, the brand of hot
girls also. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I also think that like jujitsu stuff, you guys are
the only brand that's just likenot like doing weird shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Cringe.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Like it's cringe, it's weird, it's like, I was
like, I'm not buying a rashguard, what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
spending money on this. Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
That's And

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I was like a gorilla with like all this weird stuff
on it. Yeah. Or like theStarbucks one like I said in my
video. I'm like, it's enough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
You know what

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
It's not gonna just be weird. Like, I'm not weird.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I was I mean, and kudos to some of our
competitors. And there are somenice Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of
course.
Jujutsu has taken a turn in theSure. Where it used to be. Like,
there are some

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
No shade.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
No shade

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
of tea.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah. There are some If

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
you're offended, that's you're And even

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
like, even us even us, like, our our gear is it's
very specific. It has a message.Yeah. And I think that Even our
on trend pattern things thatwe're doing of late, the message
is still there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
My sister actually asked me, when I told her what
the, like, what everything stoodfor, like the Everybody Wants to
Eat the Fuel Hunt, she was like,oh my god, I get it. Like, I
love that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
You know, like, not everyone's willing to do the
hard work. Like, I think that'sso powerful.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
To have that behind the brand. It's not just like,
oh, is a cool name.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yeah. You know? I couldn't, to be honest, like,
personally, I couldn't do it.Like, this has been about
community for me since thebeginning

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
And making people stronger. And the way to do that
is through words first and thenaction. So, like, I couldn't
have just, like, a trendy No. Icouldn't have, like, a trendy
brand. Like, I just couldn't doit.
Like, there has to be some. It'sgotta be the gear and the

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
growth for Right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
That's what

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Gear and the growth

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
for That's what differentiates us though is the
fact that we do have purposebehind our apparel. The hard
part for us is sometimes whenmaking business decisions,
blending the two, like, okay,like this is great for
community, but we will actuallybe terrible for business. Think
that's where like the line we'vealways tried to teeter because
it's

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
like because I think you guys are just like

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
You

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
go such authentically like genuine people. Like,
you're not just looking to likemake a buck.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Like, you really care about people. Like when I talk
to you guys, like in one of myepisodes, was literally like
shouting you, have to listen

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Which episode? I gotta listen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I don't know but it was shortly after one of the
shoots. I was just like, Iliterally feel like you guys are
just like my brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Like I even more. Don't even barely talk to my
brothers. Sorry guys. But, Ijust feel like so comfortable
with you guys. Like, I just feellike you guys are just cool
people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
You know, it's not so much like, I'm nervous. Like,
your your energy doesn't make metense or nervous or like

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Closed up. It actually brings out like, the
more extroverted part of me,which is where I'm like, okay,
we were meant to align,

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
you That's interesting you say that because
when I was saying I didn't knowhow we stumbled upon Talia, was
gonna say she's like the secondlittle sister I never wanted. I
never wanted. She just showed mylife on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Gonna be. Yes. Yep. No.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Brianna knows. First of

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
She knows.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
She it's very interesting that you're very you
love my sister. You gotta getalong with her well because
Listen. That says something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
At some point, you have to start to ask yourself,

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
who's the problem?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Who's Who's the problem? You took the words out
of my mouth. It's definitely mysister. I know full well. Oh,
god.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I love you. I'm gonna be giving

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
you I love

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
you. Over the next, like, three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah. He's always taking the new like, we'll be,
like, on meetings and, like,I'll me and Brianna will start
bickering Mhmm. For lack of abetter word.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
What Danny said? I'm always bickering.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
I'm like, right, Joey? It'll be like,

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
I'll out. I'll out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Where I'll say, actually, that's that

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
is boring.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
I said it

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
was It's never my side.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
And she's like, thank you, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Thank you, But

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I I appreciate I appreciate the kind words, and
you're, like, a % dead onaccurate. Like, you know, at the
end of the day, like, it's notit's never been about the dollar
Yeah. At all for us. Like, wejust want better humans Mhmm.
And better society.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
And we believe that we've got the recipe for that,
and it's all rooted in hardwork. And that's

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I mean, I'd to build a

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I got not only one, but two magnets on the fridge
with all the Yeah. With all thegirls with you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Well, you gotta keep up with the other guy, the one
guy we just posted. Yeah. It'slike

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Yeah. He's got, like, nineteen

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
oh one this His whole his whole fridge is just

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
pure. Alright. Pipe down. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Yeah. Well, you got a lightning round?

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Oh, I do. I do have a few. You do have a lightning
round? Yeah. Yeah.
I do. Alright. Did you okay.Lightning just prepped for
lightning. Quick questions,quick answers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Oh my god. I'm never good at that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Let's go. Your favorite quote. I think we might
already know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
My favorite quote?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Kinda like when you change the way you look at
things, things you'll getchange.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Mhmm. Hate to win or love to win, hate to lose.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Love to what are you asking me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Do you love to win or do you hate to lose? Oh my

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
god. I hate to lose. I'm really competitive. So I but
it's something I'm working on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Man, that's a good one, Drew.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
The next one is what is the How

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
do you remember these?

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I don't know. Think about them before. Hey, actor.
Literally. Good job.
So I Well, I have a few setones, and then as the
conversation goes on, I I'mthinking, like, okay. Like this.
I I know a lot about the peopletoo, so I know, Ari, I wanna go
with the Well,

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
could you have done this as fluidly our first ten
episodes of the Alright. Boom.There you go. Growth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Second one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Okay, Jinx.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
For what is the proper way for all the jujitsu
men out there for a jujitsu menman to slide into a jujitsu girl
with the like, what is thecorrect way to approach way? To
approach a girl. No way. That'sthe proper way. No way.
Well, they're living Yeah. Aliving success story. They're
awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
We are.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
In person, like

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
That was in person. In a role. Yeah. Yeah. I meant
metaphorically, Sly.
Like, is the proper way for a aa man jiu jitsu to approach the
the girl at Jiu Jitsu?

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Know what? Hot take is they you just have to be
there and the woman has toapproach you. Ah. So I think

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
You to be the hot guy. Yeah. Saying like and then
have the career.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah. Hot guy. Hot

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
You know, people may be like, you're creepy, get away
from me. Yeah. And like, it'sjust taken the wrong way and
then there you go. So, think youjust have to like be you and
don't say weird shit. Oh.
And then let them

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Good advice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Them My DMs are just a scary place to be. You just
don't wanna be in them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Would you be like a jujitsu hot girl influencer?
Like that's gotta be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
My I said this, I forget who I was talking about
this. My DMs are weird. Dude, mypersonal DMs are They're a

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
weird You

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
can't even explain this to somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
They're a weird place? I can only imagine

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Where your DMs are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
It's just it's a

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Today, I

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
had a guy

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
DM me and asked me why white American males are so
violent. And I'm like, what isthis conversation?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Like, why am I gonna say the

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
first all, who are First of all, who are you? And
what is this conversation?

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Why? Dude, weird place.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Yeah. It's a lot of people being like, could you
could you sub me? Could youcould you break my arm?

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
We were to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
And I'm like, don't

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
be If we're rolling around in

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
oil. It's just like

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
yeah. Yeah. Weird.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Think we've seen some weird comments on your on your
post too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yeah. People people are just

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah. Well, it's because back

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
down to

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
what we started talking about too. It's like
being in a room with no one, buttalking to someone on the on

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
the Oh, yeah. They're Yeah. They all do warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
They don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
They would never say that to

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
when you go to a post and there's a creepy comment and
people comment back and say,like, bro, like, what does your
wife and three kids think aboutthis company?

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
My god. Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Like, they literally don't even think about the fact
that they literally have theirwhole lives, like, portrayed on
this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Yeah. Are you dumb?

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Plus, the other thing too is, the more you do that,
and maybe this is just me and,like At least have a burner
account. A burner account.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Drew's telling us he's

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
a burner Yeah. Yeah. I saw it. Oh, you're Drew Will.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
And it's And Drew Will.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
You're Wow. There was no picture. I don't know if you
guys saw it. It's like

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
a picture of a truck,

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I think. He did. So it could be you, bro. Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
It's too fits.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Drew, it could be you. They're just like it looked
like

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
a lot of generic pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I told Joe we were talking about long life's
episode. I want to be off thegrid. I don't want want I want I
love the I I want the samecommunity. Mhmm. I wanna have my
cake and eat it too.
Oh, you want your cake and eatit too. I want to the people I
have in my life, I wanna be ableto interact with these, but I
wanna be to just go and be.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I get that though. Yeah. I do, ironically, I do get
it, but if I didn't need, like,if social media didn't fill this
creative void for me the way itdid, I think I would be ghosted
too. Yeah. But it just fill itfills me, like, it it fills my
cup.
Yeah. So

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I've I've I've changed my relationship too.
Like, I used to, you know, kickit to the dirt Mhmm. Social
media, social media that. Can'twait to, like

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Well, buy

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
be wealthy enough to buy an island and that I can
just sit on the island bymyself. But the reality of it
is, it's not what I want. Yeah.Like, what I want is what you
said. The community, the abilityto create.
Like, as an artist, which Mhmm.That's how I see you. As an
artist, like, we've never hadmore opportunity than we do now
to create anything we want atany time with almost any tool

(01:09:17):
for free. Yep. You know?
And do people use it in fuckedup ways? Yes, of course. But,
you know, they use all sorts ofother type of instruments that
way also. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Think it's also like a generational thing like I use
which like is so scary thatTikTok might get banned but or
is banned. But I use that aslike a search engine because
like when I'm going on socialmedia, I'm getting somebody's
authentic reviews response.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
You know? I use it as like a way for to say like,
okay, should I buy this or thisor if I'm buying this, what size
should I get? Which is why likeSure. For instance, I always put
my sizes when I'm like

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
posting Do I didn't even

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
My sets.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
It's it's people do that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
You know, like I've posted a video that's like I'm
this height and this weight,this is what I wear because
that's what I wanna Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
So Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Thank you for that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Thank you. Like, if you are creating for the right
reasons, and you're creatingauthentically, and you're
creating something that makesother people better, you can
rapidly do that nowadays. Andthat elevates everybody's art.
And I know some of my painter,some of my friends that work in
painting, sculpting, everything,they're gonna roast me for

(01:10:21):
saying that you can create art,but I that's the way I see

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
it nowadays. Yeah. Mean, look

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
at what we've done. Yeah. Yeah. The same it's the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
I will say my tirade is against technology and the
hold it has on us, less onsocial media. Yeah. It's

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
toxic. It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Even if we're not with our like, my phone we're
thinking about what's happeningon

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
our phone. Here's thing. Here's what I wanna I
wanna leave you with. I wanna Iagree with you, but let me let
me just devil's advocate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Have your mind.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
All that. Can I have a moment? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Whatever. It's yours.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Is it is it is it the technology or is it our
psychology? So the technologyhas been built Mhmm. To leverage
weak points in our psychology.The technology has been built to
change the way we think.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
He's right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Change our psychology. It's you're kinda
shooting the and this is this isme over the past, like, 90

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
You're saying you work on my I do self work.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
No. No. What I'm saying is you're shooting a
messenger. Like, it's it's

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
It's tapping into the weakest parts of us that, like

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
And it's good at.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
So I'm not saying, like, you're like, I got this
dude, doing squirrel every oncein while.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
I'm not taking a pencil. I'm just saying you're
keeping it real.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
It's Yeah. I'm keeping it real. Like, I start I
used to blame the technology.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
It's not the phone. It's me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
It's like if I feel bad about myself

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
built for the phone because of what they know about
your psychology, that's that'swhat it is. So, like, if you
understand the psychology Yeah.Then you can build a good fence
around it. Yeah. So that you youyou're not gonna let in with
yeah.
There's a book. Oh, man. Iforget the title. Yeah. Know.
It's very hard to get, actually,the book. Like, if go on Amazon

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
They don't want you

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
to it. Because they don't want you to have it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
So it's not on it's not on

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
the Kindle.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
It's not on the Kindle. And if you, go on
Amazon, they have, like it's oneof those books that's only
available on hardcover, and thebook's, like, $300. Oh. I forget
the the name of the book.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
There was a Warren Buffett book that was like that.
I never got.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
And in that book, like, it outlines, like, how. Oh
my god. Dude, I'm used to buildsoftware. Like, I I know this.
That's one of the reasons Ilike.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Look at

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
this case.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's one of

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
the reasons I king.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Yeah. What's that

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
technology king?

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
I mean, I I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
No. It really

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
is crazy. You you understand what

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I'm what you're saying. Because, like, me doom
scrolling, if I'm scrolling andscrolling and I feel bad
afterwards, it's like, I onlyperson I have to believe is me.
Yeah. I don't have to pick upthe phone.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
It's a much more straightforward way of putting
it that makes sense

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
to a lot more people than my than my tirade. My and
we're gonna

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Yeah. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
But my

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
You still got the lightning round to do. Oh, wait.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
We already did Yeah. The challenge the my personal
struggle with the phone is work,email. Like, just, like, knowing
that there's

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
You don't

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
get to clock And I I want to be I want to be where I
am. That's all. I wanna beworking when I'm working and and
Present. With my family,present, doing the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
I installed last year, I installed Opal. I dunno
if you've ever used the Opal No.So I used it to basically just
create fences around the timethat I could use social media.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Okay, so you're basically putting like child

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
It's basically parental control.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Yeah, parental control

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
and So, I have my day is blocked out, right? Then I
blocked out my phone. Like,that's way was looking at it.
Right? So if I have magic timein the morning and I vomit
shower at night, right?
I instead of relying solely onmy willpower

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I also have this block on my phone. And I used it
for, like, the better part ofthe year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
And then it creates a habit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
And, yeah, it created a habit. And not that, like, my
habit was super out of control,but, like, everybody gets pulled
into the abyss every once in awhile.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Like, you know? Oh, everyone. You text you text, and
you're like, hey. Look. Like,this thing.
What do you think about this?And I'm like, oh, wait. Let me
look at the feed real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
And then I go on the feed, and I'm like, oh, my
friend's stories. Yeah? And I'mlike, let me big up my friend.
And then I get to the next storyBig up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Yeah. Big up. Yeah. Oh, that's just awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
And then

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I get to the

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
next story, and I'm like, well, that sucks. And then
I get to the next story and I'mlike, death and destruction. And
then I get to the next story.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
And then Yeah. And before you know, it's out of
control.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
No. You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
If you watch one reel and then you you accidentally
swipe to the next, like, it's

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
a perfectly Well, doesn't it automated

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
It's a goes, doesn't

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
my awareness needed some honing. It raised my level
of This year I've uninstalled itand I've been fine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
It's called Opal?

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Opal, o p a

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
l e. I think that I might need to do that because
sometimes I find myself like forthis for content creation, I'll
go on to reels as like,sometimes I gotta scroll for
inspiration, right? It's like,I'm scrolling for inspiration,
but then when does that turninto, I'm just fucking doom

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
scrolling. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
So, the recipe for social, right? Yeah. I'm sure
you've heard it, right?Entertain, right? Inspire,
educate.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Right? I so I thought a lot about this. Sometimes I
would go on because you'd saysomething to me, and I'd be
like, okay, need to check thefeed or the reel or whatever.
Can go with one intention to beinspired or like, oh, wait. I
saw a creator post this type oftransition, and I wanna see the
And that's what you go for.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Uh-huh. And you're sucked in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
But then you get sucked into the entertainment,
and then the entertainmentstarts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
And you're like, so

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
It's like a chick. Right? It's a can't just

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
have one. That's my point earlier. It's a perfectly
curated feed of entertainmentjust for you. Like, know what
you're The algorithm. So but Iread a book, by Rick Rubin
called The Art of Creativity, Ibelieve it's called.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
That's great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
When did you read that? When? Yeah. Probably last
year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
He's in his writing. I'm

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
not reading it. I'm surprised you didn't tell me you
read that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
I feel when I read

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
it He's offended.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Probably was like a Joey book. It is. Yeah. But one
of the

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
I'm not up with everything in that book, by the
way. Like, some of the things Idisagree

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
with Yeah. Okay. So one of the messages I kinda I
was thinking about the tone ofthat book. It was a very
creative book. Yeah.
Mhmm. Yeah. So But he has Yousaid at what point?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
He has this thing, like, where he's, like, always
creating for self. Yeah. And,like, we talked about that a
little bit. Like, you gotta beselfless. Yeah.
You have be selfless. Yeah. But,like, he took it, I think, in
that book to, like, anotherlevel. Sorry to interrupt. But
that's one of the things that,like, didn't get him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
So to Atalia's point with the at what point does it
turn into does it turn fromresearch to doom scrolling?
Mhmm. It kind of made me thinklike I feel like Rick Rubin
would just be like well it'swhatever you want it to be right
like creativity might take hoursof doomscrolling.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Until you see the one thing. You're right. You're
right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
You're right. And that's where I'm kinda like not
with it. Because like I know,like, what's filling my cups so
that I can pour in other's cups,and I know what's just making
me, like, laugh. Yeah. Andthey're not real laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
But Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Do I need to laugh for six hours straight?

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Mm-mm. And then, like, you know what But what is
creativity? It's, like, you knowI mean? Like, what is
inspiration?

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Okay, Rick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yeah. Alright, Rick. No. Yeah. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
I mean, I think the case you're making too is, like,
maybe that's what you needed inthat moment you

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
didn't know. Yeah. To to be creative.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Yeah. Inspired. Yeah. Like, maybe you needed to shut
the switch off

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
to be able to turn it back on. So what I'm saying is
doom scroll for three hours.Doom scroll.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Oh, You're

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
gonna get Doom scroll galore.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Roasted, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
You're roasted. He's he's gonna get canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Yeah. This this episode I've seen like it. Like
after

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
we coach John, it's been like a steady decline, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
It was

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
like ever since I said that he, like, was a paid
actor. He's just like,

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
yeah, we got time. I really had to live it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Well, we did the lightning round already,

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
so we

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
don't even really have anything to close out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
I have one more question, but we don't have to
do it, but we can.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
We can.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
What's favorite people hunt set?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Oh my god. So it's like, is it because it's like
sentimental or what, you know?So I have to if I'm taking like
the sentimental part out of it,I'm gonna say the new one. The
black and white, starts with ak.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Kumo. Kumo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
I'm gonna say that one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
You and thousands of Thousands of A lot of people.
We're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
It's just like, it I actually had somebody Guys, see
this is how I'm like, ugh,aligned. I had somebody come
across my video and message meand was what's the different I
see that Fuel Hunt has newshorts, like what's the
difference between the two kindsof shorts? Which one should I
wear? Am I allowed to wear theseones to Jiu Jitsu? And I was
like, I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
This is

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
why I post what I know?

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Please use Kotalya when you're trying to Yeah. I
know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah. I actually didn't even tell her but I was

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
And you'll see it there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I don't wanna like plug myself too hard.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Well, just plug your code on On the fuel line. On the
show.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
No. He didn't leave the numbers. So

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
it's it's really I fucking I forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Talia10. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
There you go. Talia10.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
But

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Was it Any other questions? No. You did lightning
round. I am having

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
I had so much fun this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I actually

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I don't remember if I opened the episode up or not.
Did I lose my job for thisepisode? No. You did. Did.
Did. Alright. The host sits inthis seat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
And you know what? Even if you didn't, it was just
we were just chatting. Yeah. Wewere just chitchatting.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
It was just perfect. I will say tell

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
you what. The keyword.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
You are born for the camera though. Like you are you
are a personality.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
You. Did you

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
How how do you deal with this like at home?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Twenty four seven.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
20 four seven like this lively and entertained?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Always on. It's beautiful. Like literally always
on. Could you believe that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
My god, 11. Congruency like Amanda, my wife.
Yeah. Like, you met her but I

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I Once.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
And she's like a bubbly goofball at home Mhmm. At
work, all phases of life. Yeah.There's no.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I'm never serious. Sometimes I'm like, if I said
something, like like I will justprank, like that's just like my
energy is like I'm constantly,if I said, everything I said
today was authentic and true.Let me preface that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
But you will prank.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
But I will prank. I'll just be like, yeah, like
that person is my cousin. Yeah.Like people will just be like,
oh my god, really? I'm yeah.
And it's not my cousin. Like,you just have to have fun in
life.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
You gotta have to have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
You know? You gotta have fun. I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Let's recap where everybody can find you. Most
people know where to find you. Iknow

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
where find where can they find Yeah, so not just you,
but also

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
your bridal business, content creation business, and
your show. Yes. So let's justrecap.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
So me, of course, the most important one, it's Talia
Nierman, t a l I a n I e r m a non all my socials. You know
what, I hope to see a YouTubechannel coming for me this year.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I just gotta do it. And, but Instagram is where
you'll mainly see me. And thenfor, if you're getting married
or you know somebody gettingmarried, it's the bridalclub.bts
on Instagram. Mhmm. And then theiworld podcast, I think.
It's the iworld podcast. At theiworld podcast. Yeah. Then we

(01:21:16):
have, we're still building upour other Instagram, the social
club. It's in the works.
I don't even know if I wannatell you to go there yet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Good. Well, okay. Alright.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
It's funny because like it's ironic. I'm making
content for other people, butI'm not doing it for that page.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Got a lot of other I

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
got you. Got you. Got you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
One thing will feed

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
the other.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Yes. Thank you for coming in today. We love having
you here. Thank you. Whetherit's for a shoot, show,
whatever, we love having youhere.
Al, we love having you here

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
too, man. We all love having

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
you Professional chauffeur.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Nice. Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Doing his content creation, transportation.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
He might start his own company soon.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Yeah. He's gonna have a a competing brand.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Yeah. He's gonna pop up. Tell him he's like, I don't
know any of my competitorsexcept for, like, the one living
in our house. Exactly. Exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
In all seriousness, we love having you both.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
So thanks

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
for coming through. I'll leave the few with

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
a reminder. Always choose hard work over handouts.
Always choose effort overentitlement. Remember, no one
owns you. No one owes you.
You're one of the few.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Now let's hunt.

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