February 18, 2025 • 35 mins
Would you rather work smarter or harder? Gi or no gi? Sauna or cold plunge? In this episode, Joey and Drew sit down to put their principles to the test with a “This or That” challenge. They break down their preferences on everything from coffee habits to productivity, Jiu-Jitsu training, and daily routines. They also discuss work ethic, why gut health is the foundation of real health, and the importance of staying disciplined in a world full of distractions. Watch to hear their takes on hard work, training, and the mindset that separates the Few from the many.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get a hot take here. I truly don't prefer either.
(00:02):
They're equally as bad, but I'lldo
Speaker 2 (00:05):
either one. Like, they're all they're both good.
Equally as bad, meaning bad foryou?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm bad. Say it was equally bad in McGee
or out of McGee.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. What's going on,
Eagles? Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's my I'm run I'm running the fucking show, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yo. Include this game. Include this game.
Alright. K.
You're running the show. Let's
Speaker 1 (00:26):
What's going on, Eagles? Welcome to the Fuel Hunt
Show. I am your host today,Drew. I am joined by my cousin
and cofounder, Joey. Joey, howare feeling today?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I I mean, I'm feeling good. I I'm feeling good. I'm
feeling pretty good. I a littlemix up in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm not sure if that's right. You are
Speaker 2 (00:40):
getting better?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Take it. You
Speaker 2 (00:42):
what you know what? I manifested that because since
the beginning of the show, I'vebeen saying, I'm gonna lose my
job.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm gonna lose my job.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I manifested it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And now you did, in fact, lose your job? That comes
with a smaller paycheck as well.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So great. Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Your paycheck Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm an entrepreneur, man. I don't can it get smaller?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I don't know paycheck you were getting for being the
host of the Fuqua show is nowgoing to my
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh, man. It's a good thing I'm sponsored by Trulieve.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
These are my Trulieve's. Have got my wellness
shots and my green shots hereare gonna be coming in.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're gonna switch up this episode and do something a
little more laid back, not asmuch go hard personal
development stuff that wenormally do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So fun. Let's have fun.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know,
Speaker 2 (01:20):
we did an episode underrated, overrated.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That was fun. Yeah. And everybody loved it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So I'm waiting.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think everyone's like to see the softer sides of
the guys that made famous thequote hard work in the soft
world. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah. I'm not I'm not too good at this soft side
stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it is fun when I love seeing Joey laugh too. So
anytime that
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You can use humor or be lighthearted. It's always a
pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So That is a goal.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Idea idea I came for the with for this show was this
or that fuel hunt version orJoey and Drew version.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Mhmm.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And I'm I have a lot of this or that, but we can go
as long as we'd like.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay. So rules are
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Rules are
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You're gonna present to
Speaker 1 (02:10):
me a do two options Mhmm. And then you have to
choose this or that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Okay. Do I have to give context as to why I'm
choosing?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think we should elaborate Couple sentences.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And justCouple sentences.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And some of these will open up greater discussion
as well.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm gonna be GIF I'm gonna be GIF Joey today.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I would also like to hear back from our listeners,
our community, if they feelstrongly either way. So if you
have any type of grievances ordisagreements, please leave
leave them in our YouTubecomments.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
YouTube's a wild place, bro. I know if we want
that. Wait. Are there grievanceswith my choice or just
grievances with the showgenerally?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
We're both gonna choose. It's not
Speaker 2 (02:50):
just
Speaker 1 (02:51):
oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah. I was feeling a lot of pressure for a moment
there. Was like, holy shit.Alright.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So I'll present to them. And then if I feel
differently,
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Sounds good. Alright. Rules.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
First one, we were just talking about Frank with
this earlier. Hot or icedcoffee? Hot. But you don't do
coffee. You do espresso.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well, I mean, espresso is technically. I mean
Kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
It it identifies as coffee.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Hot, dude. Like, burn burn my already damaged
esophagus.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay. I'm iced all year round. I never want a hot
coffee. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now as a I was about to say that the word begins with
a B, but I'm not gonna say that.As somebody who is very much
concerned about their healthfitness and does a lot of
reading in that sector, is therea benefit to having the coffee
cold versus hot?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what is interesting? Because I'm I'm
very
Speaker 2 (03:46):
because I'm gonna give you my take.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I'm very belly conscious, very gut conscious.
Mhmm. Actually, warm beveragesare actually much better.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So I was gonna this was that was like a I was
sneaking one in on you, I wasgonna actually hit you with
that, but the other reason thatmaybe you care, maybe you don't.
Maybe listeners care, maybe theydon't. The other reason why I
like hot is because I feel likemy body needs to warm up that
liquid anyway, and I feel likeit's an energy leak.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's why I drink warm water too. Like, my like,
my mom drinks warm water. Idrink warm water.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Tip, like, not tap. God. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I know. You don't want some fluoride? You want
fluoride and reproductivechemicals?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I would never drink tap water, but we do have a
reverse osmosis.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I drank from a little house growing up. It's probably
why it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That is true. But we do have one of those, like,
reverse osmosis things from theand I just, like, the room
temperature was
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But I do love and, again, being so health
conscious, like, it's almostlike we pick and choose. You
know what I mean? Like, anyonethat's health conscious at all,
it's like, oh, I do this healththing, but not that not that
health thing is not really forme. It's like, I kinda draw the
line, guess, like, beveragesbecause I love Yeah. Even with
dinner, which I know you're notsupposed to do as well.
Like, Amanda and do, like, a bigcold glass of element packets
(05:06):
in, like, a carbonated water.Yeah. So it's like a soda type
Speaker 2 (05:10):
My girls love seltzer. Like, spindrift,
Speaker 1 (05:12):
love it. Love it. It. Give me all the carbonation.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And I know, again, not ideal for us.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
One I'll throw something out there. Does this
make me strange? Sometimes I'lldrink hot water.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
In the morning, I mean, I do hot lemon water.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah. Yeah. That's why it doesn't make me strange?
Nah. Nah.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Hot lemon
Speaker 2 (05:31):
water. Like, if I'm going up to the to the water
cooler Mhmm. And it's got, like,hot, warm, cold.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
No. I think that's
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Sometimes I'll I'll just put some hot water in a cup
and drink.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Warm we're dev warmer, the better. Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah. Esophagus is absolutely ravaged, so I should
probably drink more coldbeverages, but, yeah, I didn't I
didn't get the, strong esophagusgenes. Alright. What's next?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
As far as the grind goes
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The grind? Which one?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The grind. Like
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Just general life grind?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah. Okay. Like, More Just hunting. Like putting
in work. Yeah.
Early AM or late night?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
This has changed throughout my life. I'll give
you my this or that answerfirst, and then I'll give you
some context. Right now, I amearly AM. We just got a puppy,
which I'm super excited about,and that has thrown my schedule
off a bit because the puppy getsup when the puppy gets up. And I
(06:33):
can't sneak out of the roomwithout him getting up, so I
don't want to disturb the house.
So where I'm going with this isI'm turning more into my roots,
which were late nightproductivity. Whereas before I
was getting up around five orearlier sometimes, now I'm
getting up at six.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Amanda's trying to push me to get another dollar
right now, and I'm like, I don'twanna go to the public
Speaker 2 (06:57):
space. Full of cap,
Speaker 1 (06:57):
dude. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You got a rain cap
Speaker 1 (06:59):
in first. Yeah. Yeah. Exact Now
Speaker 2 (07:00):
cap's sweet, dude. You just thought Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You're you were disappointed in the cap's
behavior. No. Was? It is notgood. He jumps all over you and
shit.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah. That's what dogs do. You you complain about,
like, all the stuff. You'relike, oh my god. He barks and
jumps.
Like, dude, that's what a dogdoes. No. I get it. Like, when
you come in, he jumps.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah. It's too
Speaker 2 (07:17):
much. But that's it's trainable.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I gotta I gotta get back to my
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm gonna give you a Google search to do, and I don't
even know if he's still in thegame. John Ford.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Dude, I I asked you to send to me, like, after that
day, and I was like
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Google Google John Ford, man. He is a he came in.
He trained me, and that's whattrained our previous God rest
his soul, our previous
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I I Amanda, I saw something on Instagram the other
day. A border collie, I think.Or, yeah, doing household
chores.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I was like, my dog sucks.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Just like humans, man. You can train them, do
whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I am I prefer late night. Mornings, like I talk
about this, but
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Get up with the sun.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I do like to talk about starting my day the way I
like to start it. Mhmm. Thatsets me up for hitting the day
with the rest of the day with afull head of steam, and then
I'll pick back up at night.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I just enjoy, like, a really good wind down routine
Yeah. Specifically with a bookand some planning, and I don't
like to be on a screen. That'sthe thing that, like so you know
what I did, though?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh, you got red light mode. You got the Iris app.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, I do you can do that with accessibility on the
phone, but what I do what I do,though, is triple click the
side. Yeah. Yeah. Just tripleclick the side.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah. But on my computer, I have an Iris app
that
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh, that doesn't
Speaker 1 (08:32):
red light. Yeah. Because it doesn't have the same
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'll give you another hack. So this is what I do at
night. If I know I can do thework, Dane's over here snacking,
man. Hey, man. What do got,dude?
Yo, share share some of thesnack. RxBar. RxBar.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Alright. I'm with it. It's approved. It's it's it's
approved. So the Try and behealthy.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's funny. So the the what I'm doing now since I'm
working till, like, elevensometimes later. Sometimes I
can't shut it off. That's theother thing with me.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not good.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, that's the other thing with me. Like, once
I get going at night, it's hardfor me to shut it off. Like, if
I don't have that wind downroutine
Speaker 1 (09:08):
flow state, though.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's what I'm saying. I get in flow state all
of sudden. It's 12:30AM. Youknow what mean? And that screws
up my sleep and everything else.
So, anyway, what I've been doingat night, though, is so to
reduce blue light, obviously,you know, my glasses got the
things and Yeah. Yeah. You know,all that stuff, but smaller
screen. So if you can save workthat you need to do that you can
(09:29):
do on your iPhone, it's betterto look at your iPhone. It's a
smaller screen, emits less lightthan your laptop screen.
So I got one of these little,like, cheapy Bluetooth keyboards
from Amazon that I can sit myphone in, and it kinda acts like
a laptop. And then I'm nottaking in all the blue light
from the laptop screen.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It is interesting that you were on the biohacking
stuff before.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Way before. You told me to get my first pair of
actual blue light blockers, theamber ones.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
The Spectra four seven nines that you're coming
to get. Yep. I put everyone onthem now. Yep. But the
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The clip on John's.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The one doctor I follow is teachings the most,
doctor Jack Kruse Mhmm. Talksabout light. The first thing you
can do the best thing you do foryour health before any kind of
nutrition, exercise, workout
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Is get your light environment. Right? So that
means when the sun goes down,your lights go off as as best as
possible.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And you block blue light with your blocking
glasses, your amber not again,people think, oh, I have blue
light blockers and this.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah. Is a coating.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yes. Yes. And it's gotta block the harmful blue
light rays that are tricking usinto thinking we're awake when
we should be asleep or need tobe Yep. Going getting ready
Speaker 2 (10:37):
for sleep. Primal. I mean, that's what it is. It's,
like, primal. It's like how wewere created and and and
evolved.
Mhmm. You know what I mean? So
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To that point that my favorite work sessions are done
literally in my office in thedark.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Pitch black.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Pitch black. Headphones on. Like, literally,
I'll use all the only light isthe the computer screen.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yep. Another thing, you're talking headphones, pitch
black, silence. The other thingthat I do, and sometimes you
might even see me, like, rollingaround here with them on, is I
put earplugs in. So they're,like, corded earplugs that you
would use if you were at, like,the range or something. And,
like, I'll use them in themiddle of the day.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Really?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Just to because it limits for me, it limits
external stimuli, which meansthat I can enter flow state
quicker.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm a big lo fi guy, though. Big lo fi for you. Low
fi. Like, lo fi beats.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh, yeah. Binaural beats. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes
don't you like, I'm a big musicguy.
Like, I can listen to music. Ican listen to, like, hip hop,
like, blaring in my ears and getan inner flow state.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
No. I cannot.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But I'm not that way all the time. Sometimes I just
need silence, man.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah. True.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know what I mean? So even the binaural beats,
like, I love them. True. Butsometimes I just need silence.
True.
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Alright. Moving on. We're going to the jiu jitsu
world now.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh, boy. Great.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Pull guard or start standing?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Start standing. Didn't we do this on underrated,
overrated?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
We well, we did
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh, underrated, overrated. Yeah. Yeah. Start
standing, man.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'm gonna say pull guard.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Surprise. Surprise. I will say that I have no every
look. Like Frank said, differentstrokes, different focus. I say
that all the time.
But, yeah, I'm a start standingguy now.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You end up in the same position, though. Oh, you
end up in guard most
Speaker 2 (12:25):
of the time. Most of the time. But maybe you got a
couple great takedowns to buildyour confidence, and you're just
like, you know, I haven't madean open mat.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Or you did the perfect double leg, and then you
you got out of
Speaker 2 (12:34):
the side the entire Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah. Person. Alright. Pain t or v I a v t?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Man, that is a tough one. Did you put this list
together, or did man put thislist together? That's a tough
one, man. And I have to answerthis as present day Joey?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yes. If you can only pick one for the rest of your
life to wear.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay. Well, that changes things a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I was actually gonna say VIAV. I was actually gonna
say VIAV. I know that probablyastonishes you. Yeah. But I'm
gonna go paint tea, actually.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah. I'm go paint tea.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What I was trying to do was separate the nostalgia
from it, because that was reallythe first message, and then the
first tea Yeah. That really tookoff Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But that one, the fuel home
Speaker 2 (13:28):
community and in the world, really?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Just hit me, dude. Like, when you sent me that
badge, I was like, damn, thisone's sick.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Painty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Vince did a
Speaker 1 (13:36):
great job on it. The
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And the preferred pain. It's just straight truth,
man. Yeah. Yeah. Painty, I'mgonna go.
But that was a tough one. Thatwas a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
There's some other good ones in here. Would you
rather do this or that? Wouldyou rather do Suck Fest two
times in one day or a hundredmile race?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The original Suck
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Fest. The original Suck Fest.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Suck Fest twice in one day. Hands down. Hands down.
And for context, Suck Fest hadto be renamed because the name's
challenging if you Google it.What Suck Fest was is basically
a marathon distance and 4,000reps in the gym.
So alternating so it was a wasit a wasn't a quarter mile?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It was a quarter mile.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Quarter mile?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah. A quarter mile and then 30 reps Yeah. Rounds of
that. Yeah. What about you?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm going You're answering. I'm going a hundred
mile race.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You're doing a hundred you're doing a Yeah. On.
You ain't doing that, bro.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I mean, I'm if I'm choosing if I'm if I'm choosing
to do either one, I'm definitelychoosing a hundred mile race.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Can I walk some of the Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
The ultra. You don't run. Like, you you they're like
walking sticks half the time, Ifeel like.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I don't know, man. I feel like I know. Can I feel
like ultras, they run those theyrun those motherfuckers? The
hundred no. No.
Like an ultra. They run thosemotherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Are you sure? Think David Buggins walks?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
He don't walk. Yeah. David guy that's what I'm
saying. I
Speaker 1 (15:04):
mean, mean,
Speaker 2 (15:05):
come on now. Let me speak.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I think he did.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No. He ran it. Just like Randy. Like, Randy, he did,
like, a 50 mile. He ran it.
He ran Well, in any event,you're doing the hundred mile or
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Maybe I'll walk. A light jog.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Was Succfest that that was it was that Succfest
was brutal.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Alright. Personal development book or fiction
book?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Personal development book. All the time. All the
time. Or a fictional personaldevelopment book. Like 12
pillars.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah. That's they're probably my favorite. Yeah. I
got it. I got it.
If I had to pick, I love themboth. Yeah. But if I had to
pick, would go personaldevelopment book because I've
learned on life changing thingsfrom personal development books
that I've read.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You've learned and applied.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes. Which I'm gonna say. So a lot of people like we
just talked with Frank, A lot ofpeople get caught up reading,
reading, reading
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And reading, and then never actually applying or
taking action. And a lot ofpeople ask me, like, Drew, like,
how did you learn all thisstuff? How did you like, to get
to where you are today? I'mlike, I literally learned from
$10 books I bought on Amazon.Yep.
And we just did what they saidto do.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And we That's a And we broke stuff, and we made
mistakes,
Speaker 1 (16:21):
and we
Speaker 2 (16:21):
figured it out. What a great episode with Frank that
we just did with Frank and all.Yeah. Shout out, Frank. A lot of
good stuff came up.
So I'm I'm going personaldevelopment book.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Agreed. Text or email?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Email. %. Email.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think we're gonna learn just how different we are
with this.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Email, a %. Yeah. But we're also you know, there's a
generational difference. There'sa ten year difference between
us. Text is so fleeting.
There's no way to track it. Howdo you build a system of
Speaker 1 (16:49):
text messages coming back and forth? I believe the
new iOS update has
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Bro, up until the last iOS 15, you can even mark a
text message as unread. Yeah.Yeah. How do you, like, how do
you operate that way? That Ican't
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I do the flagging system is a it saves my life on
email.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yep. Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But I will say a lot of people might listen to this
and say, especially friends, belike, oh, like you said text,
but you never fucking answerthem anyway. So
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But that's the thing. Now I got it's like now I got
now I got like, on my phoneright now, have 1,700 text, And
I know some of those are realold. Yeah. So now I got the same
problem in my inbox I do on mytext messages. It just ain't
working.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I my friend Dustin our friend Dustin, the first
ever If You Want model
Speaker 2 (17:30):
texted me Yeah, Dustin. Yep. I remember.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Saturday. I didn't answer until yesterday. And this
is a side note, but I I he was Iwas like, sorry. Didn't answer
until now. And he said, it's allgood.
You know? I I just started tothink you hated me. And I was
like, no. But to be honest, I'mjust trying to do a better job
of living in the present momentand putting my phone down when I
can. Yeah.
And
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, plus other stuff takes over. You know what
I mean? Like
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But if you're focusing on being present for
your family, for your work, foryour jiu jitsu, like any your
training, anything you're doingin that moment, it's okay to put
your phone away. Of I don't knowwhen we got to this part of
society in the world where wefeel like we have to answer
(18:13):
immediately.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Give you how to turn there? Yeah. Rim. Research in
motion, BlackBerry. That's whereit started.
Ah. Like, the BlackBerry
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I didn't love my
Speaker 2 (18:24):
BlackBerry, though. The BlackBerry changed the
urgency of communication. Yeah.It did a lot of good, but it it
used to be called theCrackberry. That's, like, what
people would call it when itfirst came out.
It changed. And then, obviously,you know, the iPhone came after
that, and, you know, we havebetter tools now. And if you
don't learn how to use thetools, the tools use you.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah. So my point was I end up getting back to text
messages within a few because Ijust the time away from my phone
like, there's so many coming inYeah. That the time with my
phone bills them up. And then
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I have a couple pins on, you know, in iOS you can pin
at the top, like conversationsor whatever. I have those
pinned, I know that those areabsolutely And then I treat it
like my inbox. Like I don'treply, I'm not inbox zero, bro.
I don't reply to all my, I replyto some community members, like,
sixty days later, and they'relike, oh my god. Like
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I didn't think it went right back. And I'm like,
look. I've got literally athousand messages
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That I'm working through. Now text messages are
the same thing, have becomesimilar.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Alright. I know the answer to this one, but for the
community. Yes. Rap and hip hopor rock and pop punk?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Rap and hip hop. Yeah. But I listen to for
context, I love all music. Same.Like, I love literally
everything.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I love country. Love classical are a wild wild ride.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Dude, bro, you look at my Apple Music, you'd be
like, this dude is, like, amajor identity.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, there's there's one Apple Music as well. You're
an Apple Music guy? Apple Music.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Apple Music. Yeah. I'm an Apple guy, three
Speaker 1 (19:57):
and three. I'm a rock pop punk guy. If I had to if I
had to pick rapper or rock. Gotit. Guy or no gi.
We did talk about this lastepisode.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We did underrated, overrated. So this is this or
that. You know, I've beentraining no gi now for almost
six months, and I'm gonna I'mgonna say no gi.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I will say.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And you know what? I'm gonna because I went to open
mat for three weeks, and Ididn't even bring my ghee. And
then I had a moment
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Where last Sunday when I went to open mat Everyone
somebody asked me. They werelike, yo. Do you have your ghee
with you? And I was like, no.And then it triggered in my
mind.
I'm like, the last three openmats, I haven't brought my ghee.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah. I believe and I don't know if this is a a
culture a jiu jitsu culturething, but when I hear open mat,
I just assume no
Speaker 2 (20:43):
gi. At Martinez, man, we we have a it's there's
probably a slightly more no gi,but there's a lot of gi. Yeah.
Yeah. A lot of gi.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm gonna give a hot take here. I truly don't prefer
either. They're equally as bad,but I'll do either one. Like,
they're all they're both good.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Equally as bad meaning bad for you?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah. My dad equally bad in McGee or out of McGee.
Yeah. Do you learn by watchingor learn by doing?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's a great one. Definitely, if I was gonna
choose this or that, learn bydoing, 1000%.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah. There is something to be said about
watching, though. Most lessons,caught not taught. Yeah. But,
you know
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I agree with you on doing. Sauna or plunge?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I just had this conversation the other day. I
forget who I was speaking with.I'm going to oh, no. We talked
about it, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Overrated, underrated plunging.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah. But we we had a convo. I told you, I was like, I
would love to have a sauna,like, a backyard sauna. %, I
love the sauna.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't feel complete, though, after a sauna
if I don't get cold after. It'salmost like I have to. It's like
the cherry on top.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah. I don't I I like it look. I wear we were
just talking about this.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Like, are out of the sauna into a hot shower?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
No. Oh, would I do that?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah. Like, is that what you do? Like, if you're
Yeah. Yeah. In the sauna?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah. Or just over, like, a warm shower. I don't I
wear since I wear shorts allyear round, like, I'm in
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You're getting your cold your your cold therapy.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Like, the cold doesn't have as much, like I
don't get, like, as much of abuzz from the cold as I do the
heat. Something about sweatingout all the toxins is just Yeah.
Powerful No. To me.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm gonna go if I had to pick one
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I would probably just pick the plunge. Interesting.
Alright. Yeah. Do you like
Speaker 2 (22:36):
the way I feel after it?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah. They both have great benefits. Yeah. So I would
hate to just have to choose one.Yeah.
Next question is gonna triggeryou trigger warning. Work
smarter or work harder?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah. I'm a work harder type of guy. Work harder
type of guy. Not to say thatthere isn't a place for working
smarter, but like we talkedabout on a recent episode, like,
you can't do the 20% of thesmart work without doing a % of
the hard
Speaker 1 (23:06):
The hard work is the smart work. Mhmm. Single task or
multi task?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I can't fundamentally get into like the argument of
like you don't have to choosenowadays. Like I used to think
that was a choice you had tomake, But since we're actually
making choices since this orthat episode, I'm gonna say
single task. And I'm gonna saythat with the context that when
I was younger in corporate, likeespecially in my early twenties,
(23:33):
I was a hell of a fuckingmultitasker. And that was a
badge of honor for me.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah. And I thought that you feel as though you do
if you try and do everything,you don't get one thing done
well?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
No. I think it was more like for me, it was, like,
the epiphany that I came to was,like, how powerful boundaries
are. So, I still multi we'reentrepreneurs, bro. We
multitask. Like, in between theshows, like, I'm replying to
emails.
You're like, hey. Look at thisthing.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I was almost thinking of having, like, multiple
windows up. I got it on thecomputer screen. Oh, no. No.
That's that was where thequestion
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I used to be I used to be in, you know, IT. Now I
was doing I was programming, butI also did, like, a lot of,
like, tech support stuff,software support for the
software we built. And, like, ifI went over to somebody's
machine and they had, like, 70tabs open, immediately, I was
like, I do not resonate withthis individual. Yeah. Exactly.
I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Brianna does that shit.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I'm like, look. I know.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Tabs open at once.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So, Brianna, she's listen.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
She's like,
Speaker 2 (24:34):
She does listen. She's like, you She
Speaker 1 (24:35):
listens to every episode too.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
She's gonna be like, you asshole. So she was having
problems where she was like, oh,I had to reboot my computer
today. Was like, first of all,you should be rebooting your
computer every day. She's like,so I lost my login to, like,
this, that, or the other thing.And I'm like, what do you mean
you lost it?
She's like, well, I had the tabopen. And I'm like, oh, no. I
kept telling her, was like, whenyou're when you're in HQ next,
let me look at your laptop, andwe'll get to the bottom of it.
(24:57):
And I was gonna rather
Speaker 1 (24:58):
She needs to go this to the Joey school that I dated,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah. It's the same thing with, like
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Or technology. It's the same
Speaker 2 (25:05):
thing with, like, my house or my car. Now I have two
young children. Right? So, like,in my home, it's not a museum.
Like, when I was single, my homewas a museum.
Yeah. It's not anymore. Right?But, like, it's the same thing
with your home or your car.Like, there for me, there has to
be some semblance of order formy brain to operate at its
highest, most efficient level.
Yeah. You know? If it's, like,chaotic, I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
There is a saying that you may have heard before,
but how you do anything is howyou do other things. I have
Speaker 2 (25:30):
heard that before.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I do believe that, Like I said, having chaos on
your computer, you'll have chaosin your life.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah. So, you know, we say condition for chaos.
Right? That's because we don'tquit when it comes. We work
through it.
But, yes, if you can engineeryour environment to be less
chaotic, do it. That includesthe tabs of your browser.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Exactly. Journal or meditate?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Wow. You really these are very they're obvious this or
that, but I've never thoughtabout them in this context, so
it's like kinda hard, man. I amgoing to go with meditate.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Meditate for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm gonna go with meditate, however that's a
really hard one. I know. Justlike pain VIAV, that was
difficult. Yeah, that's a hardone. But I'm gonna choose
meditate.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Alright, back to jiu jitsu. Warm ups or straight to
the live rolls?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Warm ups, that's what I'm saying. I'm 42, man. Come
on.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
No warm ups for us in movement, man. Got you warm up
when
Speaker 2 (26:28):
you're You wanna do a little stretch?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean, you warm up they we would just I I believe
they
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Oh, are you are you talking group group warm ups? Or
because
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm That was the
Speaker 2 (26:39):
because I'm kinda out on the whole, like, group
Speaker 1 (26:41):
stretch thing in the beginning. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'm more into like, the warm up's gotta happen. I
don't really love the group warmup
Speaker 1 (26:48):
philosophical question.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Warm up.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely need the warm
up.
Can go straight. Like, what arewho are we? What are we? 16?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Bro, I got I was just saying I wear my Shoemaker Films
crew neck during my warm upsuit, get my body going.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Vacation in the beach or vacation in the mountains or
the woods?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So, man, you're trying to really fuck me up,
man. Yeah. I have a life goal ofhaving a domicile in three
locations. A city center, themountains, and the beach. Beach
hasn't happened yet, but I dohave a home in the center city,
and I do have a home in themountains.
(27:34):
If I had to pick one Man, thisis tough. I don't I don't know
if I could. If I if I had topick one, I'd I'd have to pick
mountains.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Really?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah. I'd have to pick mountains. As much as I
love the hot sun of the beachand the nourishment that the sea
provides us and swimming Mhmm.And all that great stuff, I feel
like the mountains matches myenergy more.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm going on the beach all day, especially
if the house is, like, on thebeach where the Yeah. As per the
goal Yeah. To wake up and put myfeet in the sand and touch that
touch that
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That bit of earth between the sand and the oat.
You know I'm talking about? Oh,I know. Yeah. Yeah.
That's half wet. That is the thedream.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I we go down the we go down ashore for a week every
summer, and I have a rule that Idon't wear shoes the whole week.
Like, that's the lifestyle Iwanna live.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That is a %.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's I went to The Maldives. You know where The
Maldives are?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah. I know that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And the resort we went to, they had
a policy. No shoes, no news.
And that is, like, just me, man.Like, no mainstream media and no
shoes.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Bro, that's that's me to a tee. But I'm I'm still
gonna choose mountains because Ifeel like it just aligns with my
energy more. I feel reallyrelaxed at the beach. And for me
personally, if I feel toorelaxed for too long of a time,
I actually get anxious. So themountains gives me the ability
to hunt, to cut down some trees,to, you know, build a fire,
(29:16):
like, all that good stuff, dosome work.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
That Amanda and I were talking last night just
about technology and becausewe're putting together this
list. And
Speaker 2 (29:25):
See, that's why I asked. I was like, man, put this
damn list together, brother. Iknow you're like, there's some
collusion.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Came from me. Just know that it made it made about
it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But how amazing it must have been to vacation back
in the day when you would justgo with no technology and no
contact with not just work, butjust any kind of BS. You know
what mean?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Like, I
Speaker 1 (29:50):
was like, that our Maryland house. Like, imagine
going to Maryland for a week andleaving our phones at home.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, what thatwould feel like.
You have a detox from bullshit.You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2 (30:02):
That week that I'm down the shore, that, like, in
the middle like, at thebeginning of the day, I work. At
the end of the day, I work.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
But the
Speaker 2 (30:09):
middle, from, like, I guess, maybe, like, ten to,
like, three or whatever when I'mat the beach, I don't bring my
electronics. Yeah. Same. To thepoint where to the point where I
start shooting film. Yeah.
I brought my film camera to,
Speaker 1 (30:22):
you know, take of yours.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I probably wanna say.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What else you got up next?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I only have two more, but I have one more point on
that effort.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You're leaving the technology behind.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah. Whatever. We we can get back to it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There are while you're thinking, there are
solutions nowadays. Like, youyou know, you get a light phone.
You could you know, you can getdevices, you know, if you don't
wanna completely cut the cordthat you could still stay in
touch.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well, we're nowhere once we're world renowned
entrepreneurs and we can cutaway, like, but that is my goal
to one day be off the grid likethat. Like, I don't I don't want
to partake in social media theway the world does anymore.
Like, it really became apparentin cove during COVID. Mhmm. When
(31:12):
Joe Rogan was doing his podcast,and he's this hit me hard, but
he was like, someone out thereunder a waterfall right now
without a phone or technologydoesn't know what COVID is, and
they're they're just fine.
You know what mean?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
They're living they're living their life.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah. Like, that's what I aspired. My level of
disconnection is, like and youand I, we weren't even on really
social media before. You waymore than me, but before we
started doing Fiwan. And again,we have social media to thank
for our business.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm a it's a it's a like I said, it's
a tool. And, like, you're eithergonna use the tools or tools are
gonna use you. Yeah.
That's what it comes down to. SoI have the same dream where I
was just telling somebody theother day, there's an
entrepreneur. I forget exactlywho he was, but he only does
business by landline. Mhmm. AndI'm like, that's me.
Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm gonna dothat. But to a certain degree,
(32:06):
that's the vision I have formyself.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Like, I'm
Speaker 2 (32:08):
only gonna do my thing, I'm gonna have my
landline, I'm gonna do Yeah. Butin reality, I don't think I'd do
that. In reality, I think what Iwould do is master the tool to
develop a habit and arelationship with it, where and
I don't think my relationship'sterrible with it now, but a
relationship where it doesn't Iuse the tool. The tool doesn't
use me. Yeah.
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Amanda's dad always had a thing about me working
having an office at home Mhmm.And working at home because he
said, I never brought my home mywork home with me. Always loved
it, which at least the the wholearm of about it?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah. We talked about it. I mean, like, for me, I've
seen both sides of the spectrum.Like, I've only worked in the
office because I started mycareer at 18, 19 years old. Even
though I was in tech, I was onlyin the office.
Then I went my first business, Iwas home solely, worked from
home for a bunch of years. Andyou know, now, you know, I much
more prefer HQ. But
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Alright. Two more. I'd kinda touch on this with the
work thing.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Mhmm.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Work with music or in science, I guess, you had to
pick.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I like both. If I had to pick one that I had to stick
with for the rest of my life,I'd definitely say work with
music. Yeah. Definitely.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And then we talked about this with Frank. Cheat
meal or cheat day?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I'm gonna go with meal a %. And it's just like,
hey, man. Like, it doesn't makemy stomach or my my soul feel
good to just, like, trash myprogress, man.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And it's yesterday, I told a man that I like, I didn't
eat any bars or anything, like,kinda processed. Yesterday, I
just looked like I was feelingkinda junky. I just decided to
switch it off. And you just feelbetter when you eat better. So,
like, you don't have to throwall of your progress out the
window for Right.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Right. Plus there's levels to it. Like, that's the
other thing. Like, I don't thinkwe made that when we had the
great cheesesteak debate. Yeah.
I don't think we made that thatclarification. Like, there's
levels to it. Like, if you'rejust starting to dial in your
nutrition and eat singleingredient whole foods
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And it's, like, it's it's tough for you, then go nuts
on Saturday or whatever. Ifthat's what you need to release
the valve so that you can keepgoing, fine. But there's levels
to it. You I think everybodyultimately gets to a point where
it maybe just becomes a meal orjust like, oh, hey. Every once
in a while, I'm gonna treatmyself.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know? But I'm hard out on eating shit that is
gonna make my stomach f'd upYeah. And me feel out of
alignment with, like, who
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I Belly conscious always, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
No. For sure. Belly conscious.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Gut health is the new health. Yeah. Health.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Gut health is the new health.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Health begins in the gut. Right? Socrates?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. There you
Speaker 1 (34:43):
go. But that's all I had. Do you any any last minute
this or that's that came tomind?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
No. What I wanted to do is kinda, like, put together
a this or that for you and likesurprise you at the end. But I
really I really don't have onebecause your list was
exhaustive, challenging. It wasreally good. It was some good
work.
I
Speaker 1 (34:58):
mean, mean
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Drew Drew was good work.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm getting pretty good at concocting these fun
podcast episodes.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Feel like
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't think anything's beating our branding
one, though, where I held up the
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you you're
you're settling into, you know,your lane. Like, this is this is
good.
You know what I mean? This isgood. Like, I can only be gift
Joey, like Brianna said. I canonly be gift Joey, like, once a
month if you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
True. True.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know, I'm like, not that fun.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Gift Joey.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You know? So Alright.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, we don't have anything else to
Speaker 2 (35:28):
add. No.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
We need the feeling. Reminder. Right? Always choose
hard work over handouts. Alwayschoose effort over entitlement.
And remember, no one owes youand no one owes you. You're one
of the few. Now let's hunt.
Get a hot take here. I truly don't prefer either.
(00:02):
They're equally as bad, but I'lldo
Speaker 2 (00:05):
either one. Like, they're all they're both good.
Equally as bad, meaning bad foryou?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm bad. Say it was equally bad in McGee
or out of McGee.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. What's going on,
Eagles? Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's my I'm run I'm running the fucking show, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yo. Include this game. Include this game.
Alright. K.
You're running the show. Let's
Speaker 1 (00:26):
What's going on, Eagles? Welcome to the Fuel Hunt
Show. I am your host today,Drew. I am joined by my cousin
and cofounder, Joey. Joey, howare feeling today?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I I mean, I'm feeling good. I I'm feeling good. I'm
feeling pretty good. I a littlemix up in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm not sure if that's right. You are
Speaker 2 (00:40):
getting better?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Take it. You
Speaker 2 (00:42):
what you know what? I manifested that because since
the beginning of the show, I'vebeen saying, I'm gonna lose my
job.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm gonna lose my job.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I manifested it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And now you did, in fact, lose your job? That comes
with a smaller paycheck as well.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So great. Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Your paycheck Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm an entrepreneur, man. I don't can it get smaller?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I don't know paycheck you were getting for being the
host of the Fuqua show is nowgoing to my
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh, man. It's a good thing I'm sponsored by Trulieve.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
These are my Trulieve's. Have got my wellness
shots and my green shots hereare gonna be coming in.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're gonna switch up this episode and do something a
little more laid back, not asmuch go hard personal
development stuff that wenormally do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So fun. Let's have fun.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know,
Speaker 2 (01:20):
we did an episode underrated, overrated.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That was fun. Yeah. And everybody loved it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So I'm waiting.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think everyone's like to see the softer sides of
the guys that made famous thequote hard work in the soft
world. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah. I'm not I'm not too good at this soft side
stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it is fun when I love seeing Joey laugh too. So
anytime that
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You can use humor or be lighthearted. It's always a
pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So That is a goal.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Idea idea I came for the with for this show was this
or that fuel hunt version orJoey and Drew version.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Mhmm.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And I'm I have a lot of this or that, but we can go
as long as we'd like.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay. So rules are
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Rules are
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You're gonna present to
Speaker 1 (02:10):
me a do two options Mhmm. And then you have to
choose this or that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Okay. Do I have to give context as to why I'm
choosing?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think we should elaborate Couple sentences.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And justCouple sentences.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And some of these will open up greater discussion
as well.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm gonna be GIF I'm gonna be GIF Joey today.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I would also like to hear back from our listeners,
our community, if they feelstrongly either way. So if you
have any type of grievances ordisagreements, please leave
leave them in our YouTubecomments.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
YouTube's a wild place, bro. I know if we want
that. Wait. Are there grievanceswith my choice or just
grievances with the showgenerally?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
We're both gonna choose. It's not
Speaker 2 (02:50):
just
Speaker 1 (02:51):
oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah. I was feeling a lot of pressure for a moment
there. Was like, holy shit.Alright.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So I'll present to them. And then if I feel
differently,
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Sounds good. Alright. Rules.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
First one, we were just talking about Frank with
this earlier. Hot or icedcoffee? Hot. But you don't do
coffee. You do espresso.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well, I mean, espresso is technically. I mean
Kind of.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
It it identifies as coffee.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Hot, dude. Like, burn burn my already damaged
esophagus.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay. I'm iced all year round. I never want a hot
coffee. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now as a I was about to say that the word begins with
a B, but I'm not gonna say that.As somebody who is very much
concerned about their healthfitness and does a lot of
reading in that sector, is therea benefit to having the coffee
cold versus hot?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what is interesting? Because I'm I'm
very
Speaker 2 (03:46):
because I'm gonna give you my take.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I'm very belly conscious, very gut conscious.
Mhmm. Actually, warm beveragesare actually much better.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So I was gonna this was that was like a I was
sneaking one in on you, I wasgonna actually hit you with
that, but the other reason thatmaybe you care, maybe you don't.
Maybe listeners care, maybe theydon't. The other reason why I
like hot is because I feel likemy body needs to warm up that
liquid anyway, and I feel likeit's an energy leak.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's why I drink warm water too. Like, my like,
my mom drinks warm water. Idrink warm water.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Tip, like, not tap. God. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I know. You don't want some fluoride? You want
fluoride and reproductivechemicals?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I would never drink tap water, but we do have a
reverse osmosis.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I drank from a little house growing up. It's probably
why it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That is true. But we do have one of those, like,
reverse osmosis things from theand I just, like, the room
temperature was
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But I do love and, again, being so health
conscious, like, it's almostlike we pick and choose. You
know what I mean? Like, anyonethat's health conscious at all,
it's like, oh, I do this healththing, but not that not that
health thing is not really forme. It's like, I kinda draw the
line, guess, like, beveragesbecause I love Yeah. Even with
dinner, which I know you're notsupposed to do as well.
Like, Amanda and do, like, a bigcold glass of element packets
(05:06):
in, like, a carbonated water.Yeah. So it's like a soda type
Speaker 2 (05:10):
My girls love seltzer. Like, spindrift,
Speaker 1 (05:12):
love it. Love it. It. Give me all the carbonation.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And I know, again, not ideal for us.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
One I'll throw something out there. Does this
make me strange? Sometimes I'lldrink hot water.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
In the morning, I mean, I do hot lemon water.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah. Yeah. That's why it doesn't make me strange?
Nah. Nah.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Hot lemon
Speaker 2 (05:31):
water. Like, if I'm going up to the to the water
cooler Mhmm. And it's got, like,hot, warm, cold.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
No. I think that's
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Sometimes I'll I'll just put some hot water in a cup
and drink.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Warm we're dev warmer, the better. Mhmm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah. Esophagus is absolutely ravaged, so I should
probably drink more coldbeverages, but, yeah, I didn't I
didn't get the, strong esophagusgenes. Alright. What's next?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
As far as the grind goes
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The grind? Which one?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The grind. Like
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Just general life grind?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah. Okay. Like, More Just hunting. Like putting
in work. Yeah.
Early AM or late night?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
This has changed throughout my life. I'll give
you my this or that answerfirst, and then I'll give you
some context. Right now, I amearly AM. We just got a puppy,
which I'm super excited about,and that has thrown my schedule
off a bit because the puppy getsup when the puppy gets up. And I
(06:33):
can't sneak out of the roomwithout him getting up, so I
don't want to disturb the house.
So where I'm going with this isI'm turning more into my roots,
which were late nightproductivity. Whereas before I
was getting up around five orearlier sometimes, now I'm
getting up at six.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Amanda's trying to push me to get another dollar
right now, and I'm like, I don'twanna go to the public
Speaker 2 (06:57):
space. Full of cap,
Speaker 1 (06:57):
dude. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You got a rain cap
Speaker 1 (06:59):
in first. Yeah. Yeah. Exact Now
Speaker 2 (07:00):
cap's sweet, dude. You just thought Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You're you were disappointed in the cap's
behavior. No. Was? It is notgood. He jumps all over you and
shit.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah. That's what dogs do. You you complain about,
like, all the stuff. You'relike, oh my god. He barks and
jumps.
Like, dude, that's what a dogdoes. No. I get it. Like, when
you come in, he jumps.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah. It's too
Speaker 2 (07:17):
much. But that's it's trainable.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I gotta I gotta get back to my
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm gonna give you a Google search to do, and I don't
even know if he's still in thegame. John Ford.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Dude, I I asked you to send to me, like, after that
day, and I was like
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Google Google John Ford, man. He is a he came in.
He trained me, and that's whattrained our previous God rest
his soul, our previous
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I I Amanda, I saw something on Instagram the other
day. A border collie, I think.Or, yeah, doing household
chores.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I was like, my dog sucks.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Just like humans, man. You can train them, do
whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I am I prefer late night. Mornings, like I talk
about this, but
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Get up with the sun.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I do like to talk about starting my day the way I
like to start it. Mhmm. Thatsets me up for hitting the day
with the rest of the day with afull head of steam, and then
I'll pick back up at night.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I just enjoy, like, a really good wind down routine
Yeah. Specifically with a bookand some planning, and I don't
like to be on a screen. That'sthe thing that, like so you know
what I did, though?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh, you got red light mode. You got the Iris app.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, I do you can do that with accessibility on the
phone, but what I do what I do,though, is triple click the
side. Yeah. Yeah. Just tripleclick the side.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah. But on my computer, I have an Iris app
that
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh, that doesn't
Speaker 1 (08:32):
red light. Yeah. Because it doesn't have the same
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'll give you another hack. So this is what I do at
night. If I know I can do thework, Dane's over here snacking,
man. Hey, man. What do got,dude?
Yo, share share some of thesnack. RxBar. RxBar.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Alright. I'm with it. It's approved. It's it's it's
approved. So the Try and behealthy.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's funny. So the the what I'm doing now since I'm
working till, like, elevensometimes later. Sometimes I
can't shut it off. That's theother thing with me.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not good.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, that's the other thing with me. Like, once
I get going at night, it's hardfor me to shut it off. Like, if
I don't have that wind downroutine
Speaker 1 (09:08):
flow state, though.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's what I'm saying. I get in flow state all
of sudden. It's 12:30AM. Youknow what mean? And that screws
up my sleep and everything else.
So, anyway, what I've been doingat night, though, is so to
reduce blue light, obviously,you know, my glasses got the
things and Yeah. Yeah. You know,all that stuff, but smaller
screen. So if you can save workthat you need to do that you can
(09:29):
do on your iPhone, it's betterto look at your iPhone. It's a
smaller screen, emits less lightthan your laptop screen.
So I got one of these little,like, cheapy Bluetooth keyboards
from Amazon that I can sit myphone in, and it kinda acts like
a laptop. And then I'm nottaking in all the blue light
from the laptop screen.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It is interesting that you were on the biohacking
stuff before.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Way before. You told me to get my first pair of
actual blue light blockers, theamber ones.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
The Spectra four seven nines that you're coming
to get. Yep. I put everyone onthem now. Yep. But the
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The clip on John's.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The one doctor I follow is teachings the most,
doctor Jack Kruse Mhmm. Talksabout light. The first thing you
can do the best thing you do foryour health before any kind of
nutrition, exercise, workout
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Is get your light environment. Right? So that
means when the sun goes down,your lights go off as as best as
possible.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And you block blue light with your blocking
glasses, your amber not again,people think, oh, I have blue
light blockers and this.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah. Is a coating.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yes. Yes. And it's gotta block the harmful blue
light rays that are tricking usinto thinking we're awake when
we should be asleep or need tobe Yep. Going getting ready
Speaker 2 (10:37):
for sleep. Primal. I mean, that's what it is. It's,
like, primal. It's like how wewere created and and and
evolved.
Mhmm. You know what I mean? So
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To that point that my favorite work sessions are done
literally in my office in thedark.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Pitch black.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Pitch black. Headphones on. Like, literally,
I'll use all the only light isthe the computer screen.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yep. Another thing, you're talking headphones, pitch
black, silence. The other thingthat I do, and sometimes you
might even see me, like, rollingaround here with them on, is I
put earplugs in. So they're,like, corded earplugs that you
would use if you were at, like,the range or something. And,
like, I'll use them in themiddle of the day.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Really?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Just to because it limits for me, it limits
external stimuli, which meansthat I can enter flow state
quicker.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm a big lo fi guy, though. Big lo fi for you. Low
fi. Like, lo fi beats.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh, yeah. Binaural beats. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes
don't you like, I'm a big musicguy.
Like, I can listen to music. Ican listen to, like, hip hop,
like, blaring in my ears and getan inner flow state.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
No. I cannot.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But I'm not that way all the time. Sometimes I just
need silence, man.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah. True.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know what I mean? So even the binaural beats,
like, I love them. True. Butsometimes I just need silence.
True.
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Alright. Moving on. We're going to the jiu jitsu
world now.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh, boy. Great.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Pull guard or start standing?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Start standing. Didn't we do this on underrated,
overrated?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
We well, we did
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh, underrated, overrated. Yeah. Yeah. Start
standing, man.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'm gonna say pull guard.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Surprise. Surprise. I will say that I have no every
look. Like Frank said, differentstrokes, different focus. I say
that all the time.
But, yeah, I'm a start standingguy now.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You end up in the same position, though. Oh, you
end up in guard most
Speaker 2 (12:25):
of the time. Most of the time. But maybe you got a
couple great takedowns to buildyour confidence, and you're just
like, you know, I haven't madean open mat.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Or you did the perfect double leg, and then you
you got out of
Speaker 2 (12:34):
the side the entire Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah. Person. Alright. Pain t or v I a v t?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Man, that is a tough one. Did you put this list
together, or did man put thislist together? That's a tough
one, man. And I have to answerthis as present day Joey?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yes. If you can only pick one for the rest of your
life to wear.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay. Well, that changes things a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I was actually gonna say VIAV. I was actually gonna
say VIAV. I know that probablyastonishes you. Yeah. But I'm
gonna go paint tea, actually.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah. I'm go paint tea.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
What I was trying to do was separate the nostalgia
from it, because that was reallythe first message, and then the
first tea Yeah. That really tookoff Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But that one, the fuel home
Speaker 2 (13:28):
community and in the world, really?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Just hit me, dude. Like, when you sent me that
badge, I was like, damn, thisone's sick.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Painty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Vince did a
Speaker 1 (13:36):
great job on it. The
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And the preferred pain. It's just straight truth,
man. Yeah. Yeah. Painty, I'mgonna go.
But that was a tough one. Thatwas a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
There's some other good ones in here. Would you
rather do this or that? Wouldyou rather do Suck Fest two
times in one day or a hundredmile race?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The original Suck
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Fest. The original Suck Fest.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Suck Fest twice in one day. Hands down. Hands down.
And for context, Suck Fest hadto be renamed because the name's
challenging if you Google it.What Suck Fest was is basically
a marathon distance and 4,000reps in the gym.
So alternating so it was a wasit a wasn't a quarter mile?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It was a quarter mile.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Quarter mile?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah. A quarter mile and then 30 reps Yeah. Rounds of
that. Yeah. What about you?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm going You're answering. I'm going a hundred
mile race.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You're doing a hundred you're doing a Yeah. On.
You ain't doing that, bro.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I mean, I'm if I'm choosing if I'm if I'm choosing
to do either one, I'm definitelychoosing a hundred mile race.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Can I walk some of the Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
The ultra. You don't run. Like, you you they're like
walking sticks half the time, Ifeel like.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I don't know, man. I feel like I know. Can I feel
like ultras, they run those theyrun those motherfuckers? The
hundred no. No.
Like an ultra. They run thosemotherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Are you sure? Think David Buggins walks?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
He don't walk. Yeah. David guy that's what I'm
saying. I
Speaker 1 (15:04):
mean, mean,
Speaker 2 (15:05):
come on now. Let me speak.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I think he did.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No. He ran it. Just like Randy. Like, Randy, he did,
like, a 50 mile. He ran it.
He ran Well, in any event,you're doing the hundred mile or
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Maybe I'll walk. A light jog.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Was Succfest that that was it was that Succfest
was brutal.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Alright. Personal development book or fiction
book?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Personal development book. All the time. All the
time. Or a fictional personaldevelopment book. Like 12
pillars.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah. That's they're probably my favorite. Yeah. I
got it. I got it.
If I had to pick, I love themboth. Yeah. But if I had to
pick, would go personaldevelopment book because I've
learned on life changing thingsfrom personal development books
that I've read.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You've learned and applied.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes. Which I'm gonna say. So a lot of people like we
just talked with Frank, A lot ofpeople get caught up reading,
reading, reading
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And reading, and then never actually applying or
taking action. And a lot ofpeople ask me, like, Drew, like,
how did you learn all thisstuff? How did you like, to get
to where you are today? I'mlike, I literally learned from
$10 books I bought on Amazon.Yep.
And we just did what they saidto do.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And we That's a And we broke stuff, and we made
mistakes,
Speaker 1 (16:21):
and we
Speaker 2 (16:21):
figured it out. What a great episode with Frank that
we just did with Frank and all.Yeah. Shout out, Frank. A lot of
good stuff came up.
So I'm I'm going personaldevelopment book.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Agreed. Text or email?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Email. %. Email.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think we're gonna learn just how different we are
with this.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Email, a %. Yeah. But we're also you know, there's a
generational difference. There'sa ten year difference between
us. Text is so fleeting.
There's no way to track it. Howdo you build a system of
Speaker 1 (16:49):
text messages coming back and forth? I believe the
new iOS update has
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Bro, up until the last iOS 15, you can even mark a
text message as unread. Yeah.Yeah. How do you, like, how do
you operate that way? That Ican't
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I do the flagging system is a it saves my life on
email.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yep. Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But I will say a lot of people might listen to this
and say, especially friends, belike, oh, like you said text,
but you never fucking answerthem anyway. So
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But that's the thing. Now I got it's like now I got
now I got like, on my phoneright now, have 1,700 text, And
I know some of those are realold. Yeah. So now I got the same
problem in my inbox I do on mytext messages. It just ain't
working.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I my friend Dustin our friend Dustin, the first
ever If You Want model
Speaker 2 (17:30):
texted me Yeah, Dustin. Yep. I remember.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Saturday. I didn't answer until yesterday. And this
is a side note, but I I he was Iwas like, sorry. Didn't answer
until now. And he said, it's allgood.
You know? I I just started tothink you hated me. And I was
like, no. But to be honest, I'mjust trying to do a better job
of living in the present momentand putting my phone down when I
can. Yeah.
And
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, plus other stuff takes over. You know what
I mean? Like
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But if you're focusing on being present for
your family, for your work, foryour jiu jitsu, like any your
training, anything you're doingin that moment, it's okay to put
your phone away. Of I don't knowwhen we got to this part of
society in the world where wefeel like we have to answer
(18:13):
immediately.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Give you how to turn there? Yeah. Rim. Research in
motion, BlackBerry. That's whereit started.
Ah. Like, the BlackBerry
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I didn't love my
Speaker 2 (18:24):
BlackBerry, though. The BlackBerry changed the
urgency of communication. Yeah.It did a lot of good, but it it
used to be called theCrackberry. That's, like, what
people would call it when itfirst came out.
It changed. And then, obviously,you know, the iPhone came after
that, and, you know, we havebetter tools now. And if you
don't learn how to use thetools, the tools use you.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah. So my point was I end up getting back to text
messages within a few because Ijust the time away from my phone
like, there's so many coming inYeah. That the time with my
phone bills them up. And then
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I have a couple pins on, you know, in iOS you can pin
at the top, like conversationsor whatever. I have those
pinned, I know that those areabsolutely And then I treat it
like my inbox. Like I don'treply, I'm not inbox zero, bro.
I don't reply to all my, I replyto some community members, like,
sixty days later, and they'relike, oh my god. Like
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I didn't think it went right back. And I'm like,
look. I've got literally athousand messages
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That I'm working through. Now text messages are
the same thing, have becomesimilar.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Alright. I know the answer to this one, but for the
community. Yes. Rap and hip hopor rock and pop punk?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Rap and hip hop. Yeah. But I listen to for
context, I love all music. Same.Like, I love literally
everything.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I love country. Love classical are a wild wild ride.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Dude, bro, you look at my Apple Music, you'd be
like, this dude is, like, amajor identity.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, there's there's one Apple Music as well. You're
an Apple Music guy? Apple Music.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Apple Music. Yeah. I'm an Apple guy, three
Speaker 1 (19:57):
and three. I'm a rock pop punk guy. If I had to if I
had to pick rapper or rock. Gotit. Guy or no gi.
We did talk about this lastepisode.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We did underrated, overrated. So this is this or
that. You know, I've beentraining no gi now for almost
six months, and I'm gonna I'mgonna say no gi.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I will say.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And you know what? I'm gonna because I went to open
mat for three weeks, and Ididn't even bring my ghee. And
then I had a moment
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Where last Sunday when I went to open mat Everyone
somebody asked me. They werelike, yo. Do you have your ghee
with you? And I was like, no.And then it triggered in my
mind.
I'm like, the last three openmats, I haven't brought my ghee.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah. I believe and I don't know if this is a a
culture a jiu jitsu culturething, but when I hear open mat,
I just assume no
Speaker 2 (20:43):
gi. At Martinez, man, we we have a it's there's
probably a slightly more no gi,but there's a lot of gi. Yeah.
Yeah. A lot of gi.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm gonna give a hot take here. I truly don't prefer
either. They're equally as bad,but I'll do either one. Like,
they're all they're both good.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Equally as bad meaning bad for you?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah. My dad equally bad in McGee or out of McGee.
Yeah. Do you learn by watchingor learn by doing?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's a great one. Definitely, if I was gonna
choose this or that, learn bydoing, 1000%.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah. There is something to be said about
watching, though. Most lessons,caught not taught. Yeah. But,
you know
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I agree with you on doing. Sauna or plunge?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I just had this conversation the other day. I
forget who I was speaking with.I'm going to oh, no. We talked
about it, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Overrated, underrated plunging.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah. But we we had a convo. I told you, I was like, I
would love to have a sauna,like, a backyard sauna. %, I
love the sauna.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't feel complete, though, after a sauna
if I don't get cold after. It'salmost like I have to. It's like
the cherry on top.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah. I don't I I like it look. I wear we were
just talking about this.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Like, are out of the sauna into a hot shower?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
No. Oh, would I do that?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah. Like, is that what you do? Like, if you're
Yeah. Yeah. In the sauna?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah. Or just over, like, a warm shower. I don't I
wear since I wear shorts allyear round, like, I'm in
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You're getting your cold your your cold therapy.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Like, the cold doesn't have as much, like I
don't get, like, as much of abuzz from the cold as I do the
heat. Something about sweatingout all the toxins is just Yeah.
Powerful No. To me.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm gonna go if I had to pick one
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I would probably just pick the plunge. Interesting.
Alright. Yeah. Do you like
Speaker 2 (22:36):
the way I feel after it?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah. They both have great benefits. Yeah. So I would
hate to just have to choose one.Yeah.
Next question is gonna triggeryou trigger warning. Work
smarter or work harder?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah. I'm a work harder type of guy. Work harder
type of guy. Not to say thatthere isn't a place for working
smarter, but like we talkedabout on a recent episode, like,
you can't do the 20% of thesmart work without doing a % of
the hard
Speaker 1 (23:06):
The hard work is the smart work. Mhmm. Single task or
multi task?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I can't fundamentally get into like the argument of
like you don't have to choosenowadays. Like I used to think
that was a choice you had tomake, But since we're actually
making choices since this orthat episode, I'm gonna say
single task. And I'm gonna saythat with the context that when
I was younger in corporate, likeespecially in my early twenties,
(23:33):
I was a hell of a fuckingmultitasker. And that was a
badge of honor for me.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah. And I thought that you feel as though you do
if you try and do everything,you don't get one thing done
well?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
No. I think it was more like for me, it was, like,
the epiphany that I came to was,like, how powerful boundaries
are. So, I still multi we'reentrepreneurs, bro. We
multitask. Like, in between theshows, like, I'm replying to
emails.
You're like, hey. Look at thisthing.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I was almost thinking of having, like, multiple
windows up. I got it on thecomputer screen. Oh, no. No.
That's that was where thequestion
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I used to be I used to be in, you know, IT. Now I
was doing I was programming, butI also did, like, a lot of,
like, tech support stuff,software support for the
software we built. And, like, ifI went over to somebody's
machine and they had, like, 70tabs open, immediately, I was
like, I do not resonate withthis individual. Yeah. Exactly.
I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Brianna does that shit.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I'm like, look. I know.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Tabs open at once.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So, Brianna, she's listen.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
She's like,
Speaker 2 (24:34):
She does listen. She's like, you She
Speaker 1 (24:35):
listens to every episode too.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
She's gonna be like, you asshole. So she was having
problems where she was like, oh,I had to reboot my computer
today. Was like, first of all,you should be rebooting your
computer every day. She's like,so I lost my login to, like,
this, that, or the other thing.And I'm like, what do you mean
you lost it?
She's like, well, I had the tabopen. And I'm like, oh, no. I
kept telling her, was like, whenyou're when you're in HQ next,
let me look at your laptop, andwe'll get to the bottom of it.
(24:57):
And I was gonna rather
Speaker 1 (24:58):
She needs to go this to the Joey school that I dated,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah. It's the same thing with, like
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Or technology. It's the same
Speaker 2 (25:05):
thing with, like, my house or my car. Now I have two
young children. Right? So, like,in my home, it's not a museum.
Like, when I was single, my homewas a museum.
Yeah. It's not anymore. Right?But, like, it's the same thing
with your home or your car.Like, there for me, there has to
be some semblance of order formy brain to operate at its
highest, most efficient level.
Yeah. You know? If it's, like,chaotic, I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
There is a saying that you may have heard before,
but how you do anything is howyou do other things. I have
Speaker 2 (25:30):
heard that before.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I do believe that, Like I said, having chaos on
your computer, you'll have chaosin your life.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah. So, you know, we say condition for chaos.
Right? That's because we don'tquit when it comes. We work
through it.
But, yes, if you can engineeryour environment to be less
chaotic, do it. That includesthe tabs of your browser.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Exactly. Journal or meditate?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Wow. You really these are very they're obvious this or
that, but I've never thoughtabout them in this context, so
it's like kinda hard, man. I amgoing to go with meditate.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Meditate for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm gonna go with meditate, however that's a
really hard one. I know. Justlike pain VIAV, that was
difficult. Yeah, that's a hardone. But I'm gonna choose
meditate.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Alright, back to jiu jitsu. Warm ups or straight to
the live rolls?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Warm ups, that's what I'm saying. I'm 42, man. Come
on.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
No warm ups for us in movement, man. Got you warm up
when
Speaker 2 (26:28):
you're You wanna do a little stretch?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean, you warm up they we would just I I believe
they
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Oh, are you are you talking group group warm ups? Or
because
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm That was the
Speaker 2 (26:39):
because I'm kinda out on the whole, like, group
Speaker 1 (26:41):
stretch thing in the beginning. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'm more into like, the warm up's gotta happen. I
don't really love the group warmup
Speaker 1 (26:48):
philosophical question.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Warm up.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely need the warm
up.
Can go straight. Like, what arewho are we? What are we? 16?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Bro, I got I was just saying I wear my Shoemaker Films
crew neck during my warm upsuit, get my body going.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Vacation in the beach or vacation in the mountains or
the woods?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So, man, you're trying to really fuck me up,
man. Yeah. I have a life goal ofhaving a domicile in three
locations. A city center, themountains, and the beach. Beach
hasn't happened yet, but I dohave a home in the center city,
and I do have a home in themountains.
(27:34):
If I had to pick one Man, thisis tough. I don't I don't know
if I could. If I if I had topick one, I'd I'd have to pick
mountains.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Really?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah. I'd have to pick mountains. As much as I
love the hot sun of the beachand the nourishment that the sea
provides us and swimming Mhmm.And all that great stuff, I feel
like the mountains matches myenergy more.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm going on the beach all day, especially
if the house is, like, on thebeach where the Yeah. As per the
goal Yeah. To wake up and put myfeet in the sand and touch that
touch that
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That bit of earth between the sand and the oat.
You know I'm talking about? Oh,I know. Yeah. Yeah.
That's half wet. That is the thedream.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I we go down the we go down ashore for a week every
summer, and I have a rule that Idon't wear shoes the whole week.
Like, that's the lifestyle Iwanna live.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That is a %.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's I went to The Maldives. You know where The
Maldives are?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah. I know that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And the resort we went to, they had
a policy. No shoes, no news.
And that is, like, just me, man.Like, no mainstream media and no
shoes.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Bro, that's that's me to a tee. But I'm I'm still
gonna choose mountains because Ifeel like it just aligns with my
energy more. I feel reallyrelaxed at the beach. And for me
personally, if I feel toorelaxed for too long of a time,
I actually get anxious. So themountains gives me the ability
to hunt, to cut down some trees,to, you know, build a fire,
(29:16):
like, all that good stuff, dosome work.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
That Amanda and I were talking last night just
about technology and becausewe're putting together this
list. And
Speaker 2 (29:25):
See, that's why I asked. I was like, man, put this
damn list together, brother. Iknow you're like, there's some
collusion.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Came from me. Just know that it made it made about
it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But how amazing it must have been to vacation back
in the day when you would justgo with no technology and no
contact with not just work, butjust any kind of BS. You know
what mean?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Like, I
Speaker 1 (29:50):
was like, that our Maryland house. Like, imagine
going to Maryland for a week andleaving our phones at home.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, what thatwould feel like.
You have a detox from bullshit.You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2 (30:02):
That week that I'm down the shore, that, like, in
the middle like, at thebeginning of the day, I work. At
the end of the day, I work.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
But the
Speaker 2 (30:09):
middle, from, like, I guess, maybe, like, ten to,
like, three or whatever when I'mat the beach, I don't bring my
electronics. Yeah. Same. To thepoint where to the point where I
start shooting film. Yeah.
I brought my film camera to,
Speaker 1 (30:22):
you know, take of yours.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I probably wanna say.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What else you got up next?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I only have two more, but I have one more point on
that effort.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You're leaving the technology behind.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah. Whatever. We we can get back to it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There are while you're thinking, there are
solutions nowadays. Like, youyou know, you get a light phone.
You could you know, you can getdevices, you know, if you don't
wanna completely cut the cordthat you could still stay in
touch.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well, we're nowhere once we're world renowned
entrepreneurs and we can cutaway, like, but that is my goal
to one day be off the grid likethat. Like, I don't I don't want
to partake in social media theway the world does anymore.
Like, it really became apparentin cove during COVID. Mhmm. When
(31:12):
Joe Rogan was doing his podcast,and he's this hit me hard, but
he was like, someone out thereunder a waterfall right now
without a phone or technologydoesn't know what COVID is, and
they're they're just fine.
You know what mean?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
They're living they're living their life.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah. Like, that's what I aspired. My level of
disconnection is, like and youand I, we weren't even on really
social media before. You waymore than me, but before we
started doing Fiwan. And again,we have social media to thank
for our business.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm a it's a it's a like I said, it's
a tool. And, like, you're eithergonna use the tools or tools are
gonna use you. Yeah.
That's what it comes down to. SoI have the same dream where I
was just telling somebody theother day, there's an
entrepreneur. I forget exactlywho he was, but he only does
business by landline. Mhmm. AndI'm like, that's me.
Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm gonna dothat. But to a certain degree,
(32:06):
that's the vision I have formyself.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Like, I'm
Speaker 2 (32:08):
only gonna do my thing, I'm gonna have my
landline, I'm gonna do Yeah. Butin reality, I don't think I'd do
that. In reality, I think what Iwould do is master the tool to
develop a habit and arelationship with it, where and
I don't think my relationship'sterrible with it now, but a
relationship where it doesn't Iuse the tool. The tool doesn't
use me. Yeah.
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Amanda's dad always had a thing about me working
having an office at home Mhmm.And working at home because he
said, I never brought my home mywork home with me. Always loved
it, which at least the the wholearm of about it?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah. We talked about it. I mean, like, for me, I've
seen both sides of the spectrum.Like, I've only worked in the
office because I started mycareer at 18, 19 years old. Even
though I was in tech, I was onlyin the office.
Then I went my first business, Iwas home solely, worked from
home for a bunch of years. Andyou know, now, you know, I much
more prefer HQ. But
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Alright. Two more. I'd kinda touch on this with the
work thing.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Mhmm.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Work with music or in science, I guess, you had to
pick.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I like both. If I had to pick one that I had to stick
with for the rest of my life,I'd definitely say work with
music. Yeah. Definitely.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
And then we talked about this with Frank. Cheat
meal or cheat day?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I'm gonna go with meal a %. And it's just like,
hey, man. Like, it doesn't makemy stomach or my my soul feel
good to just, like, trash myprogress, man.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And it's yesterday, I told a man that I like, I didn't
eat any bars or anything, like,kinda processed. Yesterday, I
just looked like I was feelingkinda junky. I just decided to
switch it off. And you just feelbetter when you eat better. So,
like, you don't have to throwall of your progress out the
window for Right.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Right. Plus there's levels to it. Like, that's the
other thing. Like, I don't thinkwe made that when we had the
great cheesesteak debate. Yeah.
I don't think we made that thatclarification. Like, there's
levels to it. Like, if you'rejust starting to dial in your
nutrition and eat singleingredient whole foods
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And it's, like, it's it's tough for you, then go nuts
on Saturday or whatever. Ifthat's what you need to release
the valve so that you can keepgoing, fine. But there's levels
to it. You I think everybodyultimately gets to a point where
it maybe just becomes a meal orjust like, oh, hey. Every once
in a while, I'm gonna treatmyself.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know? But I'm hard out on eating shit that is
gonna make my stomach f'd upYeah. And me feel out of
alignment with, like, who
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I Belly conscious always, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
No. For sure. Belly conscious.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Gut health is the new health. Yeah. Health.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Gut health is the new health.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Health begins in the gut. Right? Socrates?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. There you
Speaker 1 (34:43):
go. But that's all I had. Do you any any last minute
this or that's that came tomind?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
No. What I wanted to do is kinda, like, put together
a this or that for you and likesurprise you at the end. But I
really I really don't have onebecause your list was
exhaustive, challenging. It wasreally good. It was some good
work.
I
Speaker 1 (34:58):
mean, mean
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Drew Drew was good work.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm getting pretty good at concocting these fun
podcast episodes.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Feel like
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't think anything's beating our branding
one, though, where I held up the
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you you're
you're settling into, you know,your lane. Like, this is this is
good.
You know what I mean? This isgood. Like, I can only be gift
Joey, like Brianna said. I canonly be gift Joey, like, once a
month if you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
True. True.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know, I'm like, not that fun.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Gift Joey.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You know? So Alright.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, we don't have anything else to
Speaker 2 (35:28):
add. No.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
We need the feeling. Reminder. Right? Always choose
hard work over handouts. Alwayschoose effort over entitlement.
And remember, no one owes youand no one owes you. You're one
of the few. Now let's hunt.
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