April 24, 2024 • 41 mins
Ever wonder how a single film can alter your view on life's big questions, like love and personal growth? That's the kind of revelation Megan Turner experienced after getting lost in the world of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. In this episode, Megan, a trailblazing filmmaker and one of the forces behind Synced Together: AMVs & Their Editors, shares her filmmaking odyssey ignited by the narrative ingenuity of Scott Pilgrim. We unwrap the often-unseen influence of anime on Western culture and how AMVs serve as a portal into the addictive art of video editing, leading many down their own creative rabbit holes.
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Synced Together: AMVs & Their Editors
Edgar Wright - How To Do Visual Comedy
AMV - Weebstagram - White Woman’s Instagram
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Clip (00:00):
If we're going to date, you may have to defeat my seven
evil exes.
You have seven evilex-boyfriends, seven evil exes,
yes, and I have to fight, defeat, defeat your seven evil exes if
we're going to continue to date.
Pretty much.
So what you're saying right nowis we are dating.
Uh.
Megan Turner (00:20):
I guess I really love this film because it takes
issue with when you're in arelationship you really have to
go through and be real with eachother.
Right, you have to go throughthe baggage.
I also love the packagingbecause I'm a huge Edgar Wright
fan.
I love how he directs with theedit in mind, rather than, you
(00:41):
know, getting into the editingsuite and saying, ok, what do we
do with this footage?
Every single shot.
It's like he's seen it already.
Taylor D. Adams (00:50):
Hi, I'm Taylor and welcome back to the Film
Nuts podcast, a show about whywe love what we watch.
When's the last time a movieopened up your world?
Not because you actively closedyourself off or anything, but
because the movie showed yousomething you hadn't even
thought of before, and the moreyou watched it, the more you
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grew to appreciate it and themore inspired you became.
Scott Pilgrim vs the World,directed by Edgar Wright, is a
quirky, fast-paced visualkaleidoscope of young adult
(01:32):
angst and video game homagesthat, over time, drove my guest
today into a filmmaking career.
Megan Turner is a contentcreator and entrepreneur who is
working with a team to producethe documentary Synced Together
AMVs and their editors and ifyou're asking what an AMV is,
don't worry, we answer thatquickly.
(01:52):
Megan and I chat about howanime influences Western media,
how Scott Pilgrim vs the Worldhandles complex characters and
who Megan might have become hadshe not seen this movie.
So let's hit start.
Megan Turner (02:12):
The big thing I'm working on is documentary and
it's called Sync Together AMVsand their editors.
Taylor D. Adams (02:19):
Okay.
Megan Turner (02:20):
So, but to explain this, I have to ask you a
question first.
Do you know what an AMV is?
Taylor D. Adams (02:26):
Anime music video.
Yeah, okay, all right, coolGood.
Megan Turner (02:29):
Good, did you look that up, or did I tell you that
before?
Taylor D. Adams (02:32):
I want to, now that you talk about it.
I think you sent me some stuffa while ago, okay, but in the
subject line I said AMV andthat's the first thing that came
to my head, but I was like, Ijust thought of it as like a
super niche thing that not a lotof people are aware of, and I
think that's still true, butyeah, now you're working on
something about it.
Tell me about it.
Megan Turner (02:48):
Yeah yeah, it's actually the very first
documentary about AMVs ever, sothat's really exciting.
It's been seven years in themaking, so really it's been a
long time, yeah yeah.
And what's been crazy is so theteam that's been making this
right.
It's a pretty big team, but thecore team started seven years
ago and every step of the waywas the first time for
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everything.
They had never filmed anythingbefore, we never edited a
feature length documentarybefore, and so now it's really
beautiful to have it out in theworld.
We're doing communityscreenings, so at anime
conventions, which have gottenjust incredible reception and
feedback from people and howreally special and unique it is.
(03:32):
So I'm actually in thedocumentary and also on the team
behind the scenes, so that's,you know, a really interesting
dynamic.
And so we're screening it nowin conventions and then we're
working on DIY distribution.
So that'll be the next step andthat's even more exciting
because then you can share itwith people who don't come to
conventions and aren't big nerdslike us.
Taylor D. Adams (03:55):
Can you, for the audience that isn't aware of
AMV, anime Music Video?
Megan Turner (04:00):
can you?
Taylor D. Adams (04:01):
describe what it actually is.
Megan Turner (04:02):
Sure.
So an AMV is essentially youtake an anime that you love and
a song that you say, hey, thisactually goes with this, and you
make a music video with them.
So, for example, you can dosomething where, okay, well, you
love Dragon Ball Z right, thisis really common.
I also love Linkin Park right,this is kind of how it started
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and they were like okay, well,we'll put them together and make
something unique, kind of thisfresh video version of fan art,
but also you can subvert itright, which is really fun.
And the first amv actually thatwas ever made was with um, an
80s anime called battleshipyamato.
I I really hope I didn'tbutcher that and it's this
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brutal, you know space war kindof anime and the guy who edited
it, who just passed away lastyear, he's the first AMV editor
and he paired it with All youNeed Is Love.
Taylor D. Adams (04:58):
By the Beatles.
Yes, okay, and so it's thiscomedy right.
Megan Turner (05:01):
It's like people dying everywhere and all you
need is love.
Taylor D. Adams (05:04):
Yeah, okay, yeah Okay.
Megan Turner (05:05):
Yeah, so it's a really beautiful, interesting
kind of art form that subvertstradition and you know breaks
the rules a little bit, which Ithink you know falls in line
really well with Scott Pilgrim,to be honest.
Taylor D. Adams (05:16):
Yeah.
Megan Turner (05:17):
But, but yeah.
So a lot of these AMV editorstaught themselves how to edit
videos by doing this hobby andthat's how I learned how to edit
too.
So we're all really passionateabout it.
We want to see it.
You know, grow and change andyou know the international
community get closer and allthose things.
So the documentary is reallylike a love letter to AMVs and
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to editors and the community andeverything.
Taylor D. Adams (05:42):
That's really cool.
One of the ones, one of theones or the clips I've seen from
any of you that makes me laughevery single time is the Dragon
Ball Z.
Whitney Houston.
I will, I will always love you.
I die laughing every time I seethat one.
Yeah, it cracks me up so much.
Megan Turner (06:00):
It's so good we did so.
My husband and I both edit AMVs.
Sorry, scott, I have to tellpeople.
He doesn't like it when I tellpeople.
Taylor D. Adams (06:07):
Why.
Megan Turner (06:07):
But well, it's such a nerdy thing, right?
A lot of AMV editors are reallyanonymous about it.
They're really private.
That's sad it is.
I hope it'll change.
But you know so we, during thepandemic, everybody had their
project right to like cope withthat.
So me and him watched um BoBurnham's Inside oh yeah, loved
(06:29):
it yeah loved it so, so much.
And so when, when we heard andsaw the song A White Woman's
Instagram, we're like, okay,we've got to do something with
this.
Right, we've got to dosomething.
And I said, you know, it'd begreat if we did that.
And did you know a multi-sourcelike all these different anime
and replicate every single shot?
(06:50):
right of of Bo Burnham's musicvideo yeah and I said that'd be
so great, but I would never doit because it'd be so much work
to recreate, like Instagram UIsand things like that.
And my husband was like, well,I'll do that part.
So.
So we made it together.
We made an.
Amv and it's called Weepstagramand it's it's so good, it's so
(07:12):
good.
Taylor D. Adams (07:12):
Yeah, this.
Well, this actually, I think,ties in perfectly with your
choice of film you wanted todiscuss today.
So, outside of the similarconnections between AMv and
scott pilgrim versus the world,why do you love this movie?
Megan Turner (07:27):
so I think there's two reasons right there's the
content and there's thepackaging of the movie right.
So the content I really love umthis film because it takes
issue with when you're in arelationship you really have to
go through and be real with eachother.
Right, you have to go throughthe baggage, the evil exes right
(07:49):
.
You got to deal with this stuffif you're really going to be in
an authentic relationship, insomething deep and real.
And so I love that and I lovethe you know dismantling of this
idea of Ramona as this perfectperson and you realize that
she's not right.
Scott's not for sure but thatyou can still have a
relationship with imperfectpeople, right?
(08:11):
I love that.
I also love the packaging,because I'm a huge Edgar Wright
fan.
I love his work, I love how hedirects with the edit in mind,
and so, rather than, you know,getting into the editing suite
and saying, okay, what do we dowith this footage?
You know every single shot,it's like he's seen it already,
(08:31):
you know.
And so all the in-cameratransitions and you know,
beautiful, just synergy of theaudio mixing and design and the
visual and the graphics and theacting and everything.
It's just, it flows together so, so well and I feel like he's
such an unsung hero in film, tobe honest, you know it was.
(08:52):
It was shocking to me.
You know, we just saw theoscars not too long ago and I
was like you know what.
I don't think edgar wright'sever won an oscar and I looked
it up I was like no, he's neverbeen nominated no for an oscar.
I was like this is atrocious,so that's why I wanted to talk
about it mr pilgrim, it is I,matthew patel.
Clip (09:16):
Consider our fight begun.
What did I do?
What do I do Fight.
Taylor D. Adams (09:29):
Fight.
I feel like, yeah, I personallylove his style as well.
I think it's incredibly uniqueand provides a lot of action
where there isn't action.
I think there was a every frameof painting video essay on, uh,
(09:52):
how he edits non-action intoaction and it's really great.
I mean, a lot of people haven'tbeen a lot of great filmmakers,
have never been nominated orwon an oscar hitchcock number
one, an oscar really yep, I didnot know.
Megan Turner (10:03):
Yeah, that's wild I hope so.
Taylor D. Adams (10:06):
I just said it.
Megan Turner (10:06):
I'm like we'll fix that.
Taylor D. Adams (10:07):
Um, I'll fix that post, uh, so tell me about.
So this movie came out in 2010,so tell me about.
Yeah, tell me about the firsttime you remember seeing this
movie, like who were you?
Where were you with?
What was that experience like?
Megan Turner (10:24):
Yeah, so I I actually don't remember the
specific first time that I sawthis movie, but I know the
context because, um, in 2010, Iwas in college.
It's like forever ago.
Uh, I was in college and I wasnot into anime and I didn't play
fighting video games, rightLike.
(10:45):
So the two kind of things youneed to love to love this film
at least you know, from anaesthetic standpoint Right.
Yeah, I didn't love, but I wassurrounded by people who did.
You know, all of my friendswere anime nerds, and so it was
kind of destiny that I I wouldbecome one too.
But but you know, I was roomingwith my best friend and we
(11:06):
regularly would have these movienights, right especially
because one of our um roommateswas from china and so we were
trying to introduce her to allthese western films.
We poor thing she sat throughlord of the rings and hated
every second what she hated itwas so slow.
You know, whatever I love Lordof the Rings, but, um, but one
of the movies that we watchedwas Scott Pilgrim and I think
(11:30):
that in future watches,especially you know, when, um,
when my husband and I startedtalking and becoming closer
friends, you know we watched itagain and it was like every
single time that I'd watch itagain I'd love it more, you know
, um, just because I was kind ofbeing sucked into that
community and also because I wasbecoming more aware of film,
(11:54):
right, and realizing what ittook to make a film like this.
You know, in 2010, I wasn't evenin film yet you know um I was
still, you know, acting intheater and it wasn't until 2011
that I really got introducedthrough screenwriting, to, you
know, the world of film and kindof the other side of the coin,
right from theater, and reallyfell in love with it then.
(12:15):
So, yeah it's, it's a moviethat I started out kind of kind
of interested, kind of curiousabout, and just every single
watch has grown on me even morewhat about?
Taylor D. Adams (12:23):
it has grown and kind of like, yeah, with
that, what has made you, or whatmade you come around to like
loving film?
Uh, as much as you do yeah,yeah, I think it was.
Megan Turner (12:38):
It was two things.
So when I first got starteddoing film, I was a pa and you
know this because you hired me.
Taylor D. Adams (12:46):
What shoot was that?
That was forever ago.
I was trying to remember.
Megan Turner (12:49):
That was Brian.
I think that was 2012, maybe.
Taylor D. Adams (12:52):
That sounds about right, cause I put out
Brian in 2013.
Nobody looked that up, cause Idon't like that.
I don't like watching thatmovie anymore.
Megan Turner (12:58):
It doesn't exist, Just ignore.
No, but you I was thinkingabout this recently, man, you
know, sometimes like the firstloaf of bread I baked was not
any good, but you had to do it.
You know, I feel like, asfilmmakers like you got to just
start somewhere.
And that was.
I think the beautiful thingabout that era of my life was
that it was like, you know,getting your feet wet and being
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on set late nights and earlymornings and coffee, and kind of
grow to love it, even thoughit's kind of wild and
unpredictable and you're, youknow, beating your head against
the wall trying to makesomething good.
Um, and so I love theproduction side from that end.
So also bringing my husbandinto this.
So when I got married to himand I moved to Virginia, I had
absolutely nothing to do, Ibeyond nothing to do, because I
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didn't have a job.
I didn't know a single personin the town we moved to, and so
I was like, well, what else am Igoing to do?
I'll learn to edit.
So he taught me how to usePremiere and it was terrible.
We had so many fights becausehe's like, well, hit the cut
button.
And I was like these arehieroglyphics, they mean nothing
to me.
You know, um, but I edited myfirst AMV.
And you know, um, but I editedmy first amv.
And you know that was when Istarted really understanding
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what it took to create a paceand a flow in an edit and really
like respect and understand theeffort that goes in on the back
end to all the post-productionum, and at that point, you know
I was kind of hooked.
You know I started making amvsand and going to contests and
the crazy thing is so I had myfirst child in 2018, which was
(14:30):
awesome.
But long story short, I endedup having to quit my job the
morning she was born.
Clip (14:36):
Oh shoot.
Megan Turner (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, I went in and talked to my boss and I
was like look, I know, swore upand down for nine months, I
wasn't going anywhere, but mychild care canceled.
Clip (14:45):
So sorry, oh wow.
Megan Turner (14:46):
And that night she was born, and so the next month
, not the next day, good Lord.
The next month I started mybusiness, poppy Plum Media,
because I couldn't go back towork.
I had to be home with her and Iknew we had to bring in an
income.
This was the only thing I knewhow to do now.
So from there it just kind oftook off and and now I'm
(15:07):
inextricably linked to filmforever.
Taylor D. Adams (15:11):
That's awesome.
Um, so your business popularmedia um, as well as your work
with documentaries andeverything, you're very much
content creator.
You run your own business.
Do you think that the style ofthis movie shaped your movies
and content and TV that cameafter it?
Megan Turner (15:33):
I do.
I think it was ahead of itstime, so what?
Clip (15:36):
can I f***ing get you?
Is there anywhere you don'twork.
They're called jobs, somethinga f***ing ball like you wouldn't
know anything about.
And, by the way, I can'tf***ing believe you asked Ramona
out after I specifically toldyou not to f***ing do that.
How are you doing that withyour mouth?
You never f***ing mind how I'mdoing it.
What do you have to say foryourself?
Can I get a caramel macchiato?
You know what?
Maybe it's high time you took alook in the mirror before you
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wreak havoc on another girl.
Megan Turner (16:00):
It broke ground in this style of you know kind of
rebellious filmmaking, right,breaking the fourth wall,
breaking the rules, breaking youknow form and still telling a
story that was you know notshallow by any means, like this
is a deep story, but it's toldin a way that's so accessible,
right, I think of even likecurrent films that do this right
(16:21):
, like we just recognize Barbieas an Oscar nom right and.
American fiction as an Oscar nom, and, and these are films that
have really important messages,but they're also palatable to
watch, right?
They're not bashing you overthe head with it.
It's really accessible for theaverage person and so, yeah, I
think it impacted that.
I think it also impacted popculture, right?
Taylor D. Adams (16:45):
There was this huge.
Megan Turner (16:46):
I mean obviously box office flop, because of
course.
But you know, after it came out, you know this rise in this
kind of alt-punk after it cameout you know this rise in this
kind of alt punk, you knowacceptance in pop culture and
and all of these things.
And you know, even inhipsterdom, which I was
definitely accused of beinghipster Um, but of course I
wasn't because they just didn'tget it.
Taylor D. Adams (17:09):
They just didn't get it yeah.
Megan Turner (17:10):
It was just deep.
Taylor D. Adams (17:13):
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Okay, enough of me rambling backto the good stuff.
The thing that I was noticingthis time around watching it is
I hadn't seen it since, uh,around the time it came out.
Um, I remember it.
I remember, uh, appreciating it, but not like loving it, and I
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think I still feel that way.
But I'm looking at it now andI'm like, visually and
aesthetically, this was like way, like we're seeing stuff in the
past three years that visuallylooks like this movie.
Megan Turner (18:32):
Yeah.
Taylor D. Adams (18:32):
Like, especially with visual effects,
um, and even and and and beyond,like content you watch on your
phone, like like, uh, tik TOKstuff and Instagram filters and
stuff like that.
But like I immediately actuallythought of, uh, into the spider
verse, with just the way thatit incorporated graphic novel
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language, like having that onscreen.
One of my favorite bits in intothe spider-verse is like
someone gets hit with a bageland bagel shows up.
Yeah, yeah, that's one.
And so, like watching thismovie, I was reminded a lot of
that, a lot of that aestheticthat I really loved, and this
movie to me, like I'd forgottenhow visually striking everything
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is.
Like like in my, my head I waslike, yeah, no, yeah, duh.
But like watching it and I waslike, oh yeah, this had a lot to
do and there are a lot ofreally like funny, clever jokes
in it too as well.
Um, but one of the thing goingback, we were talking about, how
the stuff you, you weren't intolike, uh, the pop culture,
nerdy, video gamey type stufflike this, obviously, movies,
(19:38):
this has all of that.
Oh, yeah.
But a lot of what isincorporated, especially with
the visual effects, stuff isvery like eight bit oriented and
very things that can triggernostalgia in a lot of people.
Things that can triggernostalgia in a lot of people.
What kind of power do you thinknostalgia has over an audience,
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both with this movie and maybejust in general?
Megan Turner (20:02):
Yeah, I think that you know.
Obviously we see a lot ofcompanies trying to capitalize
on nostalgia right now and youcan tell when it's fake and you
can tell when it's real.
And I think when it's real, andat its best, it's not
necessarily a longing for thatthing that you're nostalgic for.
I think it's a nostalgia forthe person you were when you
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engaged with that thing first,right.
So you know, I mentioned we havekids and so we're introducing
them to not just current, likeMario and gaming, and stuff but
also like they played mario 64heck yeah, it's like, right,
they're cool, they're cool umgreat parents you are thank you,
I know, I know, uh, so I thinkit's, it's really nostalgic for
(20:48):
us to to give our kids thisthing that we played when we
were kids and or at least Iplayed when I was a kid but, um,
it's, it's this kind ofconnection between you know this
, I guess, reconnecting withyour childhood and then also
passing it on right to the nextgeneration, and I think for me.
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When I see films like ScottPilgrim, it reminds me of one of
the best versions of myself,right.
Who I was in in 2010, like incollege, before all the
complications you know come upof life of the heaviness of a
mortgage and things like that.
Taylor D. Adams (21:25):
When you say like the better version, is it
like?
Do you mean like just moreinnocent with less
responsibilities, like the morefun, like the more carefree, a
little?
Megan Turner (21:33):
bit, a little bit, I think.
I think there was just so muchmore freedom to like be creative
, Like I.
There's there's a word that Ialways associate with that era
of my life, and it's moxie.
Clip (21:45):
Okay, right, but it was like.
Megan Turner (21:47):
No one told me I couldn't, so I was just going to
do it.
You know, I was just, you know,gonna walk barefoot all over
campus because I thought maybeit was bringing awareness to
kids without shoes.
Right, like right, you rememberthat.
Taylor D. Adams (21:58):
Oh, I remember judging those people.
Megan Turner (21:59):
Yeah, that was me.
That was me, I'll admit it, butit like I wasn't judged, but I
was worried.
Taylor D. Adams (22:04):
I was worried.
Megan Turner (22:05):
Yeah, it hurt, it hurt.
No, but that like courage ofconviction.
Right right of like, justwithout restriction, being
yourself and and I think now youknow that's lost a little bit,
at least for me personally,because you know I'm a mom, I'm
I'm the business owner and I'mold or at least I feel older and
(22:26):
and it feels like there's somuch consequence for being
yourself, right in a certain way.
I think in some ways we'vetried to open that up as a
society, but also I think it'sbeen hampered a lot by how much
social media has grown betweenlike 2010 and now and the ways
that it's pivoted into likemonetizing yourself.
(22:46):
So living in that age where youknow I didn't have to monetize
myself, I didn't have to worryabout my brand image, you
weren't worried about analgorithm.
Yeah, no, I was not worriedabout an algorithm at all.
I didn't even know that analgorithm existed.
You know, I was just having funand being silly, and yeah.
And so I think you know we goback to these pieces of content,
(23:09):
that we go back to thesetouchstones to try to regain
that piece of ourself, right,and you always look back with
rose colored glasses, right,like make no mistake, but but I
think that to me, that's whatnostalgia really does and why I
love it.
Taylor D. Adams (23:23):
What do you, what do you think we can do to
Hold on to who we used to be?
Like you know, it's nice tohave reminders you know of, of
the people we used to be, thethe times in which we used to
exist, but, like, surely there'sgotta be a way to retain that,
(23:44):
some of that who we are.
I just I recently did thisvideo essay on memory and how,
even if we forget, like theevents of things, like we're
still shaped by, like whatactually happened to us and what
we participated in.
So I mean, I did not send youthe question ahead of time,
because I just thought of it.
Yeah, is there, is there.
Is there a way you think thatwe can both remember who we were
(24:07):
and hold on to those things wefound important back then and
and and keep them going now,especially like raising a
younger generation?
Megan Turner (24:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think it's a balanceright, like you want to look
back fondly and take with youthe pieces of of yourself that
you want to keep right, that youwant to preserve, but also
recognize that that it wasn'tperfect, right?
I?
Taylor D. Adams (24:29):
mean.
Megan Turner (24:29):
Scott Pilgrim is a great example of this right of
Ramona looking back at all heryou know chapters of her love
life right and saying like wow,I was kind of a bitch.
Clip (24:38):
You're going.
I should probably disappearAfter all that.
I still need a new life.
I came here to escape, but thepast keeps catching up.
I'm tired of people gettinghurt because of me.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to getover it.
I don't mean just you, no.
(25:04):
I understand.
I should thank you, though, forwhat?
Megan Turner (25:09):
For being the nicest guy I ever dated the fact
that she's coming to terms withthat fact that that the past
use or whatever like there wasgood and bad right, and I think
the way to take the good withyou is is to, one, see it for
what it was right, but then alsoto recognize that you are still
that person right, that that,as much as you know, there's
been times in my life where Ididn't feel like, but then also
to recognize that you are stillthat person right, that, as much
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as you know, there's been timesin my life where I didn't feel
like I had an Emoxy right, butrecognizing that I can look back
at especially content I created, journaling that I did right.
Those tangible pieces, evenpictures, and say like that
person is still in here, youknow, like you can be that again
, you can be the parts of thatyou want to be again.
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You know, and I thinkespecially I don't know to me
post pandemic.
I think that's especiallyimportant because we lost so
much during the pandemic thatnow trying to regain, even four
years past the beginning of it,right, which is still wild to me
to think about.
Taylor D. Adams (26:05):
That was four years, I know, right it started
four years ago.
Megan Turner (26:08):
I've been thinking about this a lot lately, Right,
and I'm like man, that's that'scrazy.
Taylor D. Adams (26:12):
It feels like last year and 10 years ago.
Megan Turner (26:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think that you know that'sa really important exercise for
us to do now to like go backand say like, yeah, we can do
these things, we can be thesepeople again.
Right, I have a friend who wentto a concert alone, uh, this
past weekend.
She was so proud of herself andI was like I'm so proud of you,
like I wouldn't do that.
Taylor D. Adams (26:35):
I go to the movies alone all the time.
That's awesome.
That's awesome yeah.
Megan Turner (26:39):
And it's it's regaining that like I can you
know, so I will.
Taylor D. Adams (26:44):
Yeah, so I'm glad you brought that up about
ramona, because, like scott is,basically, he's not a good
person, he's a trash person Iwas like watching this I was
like I don't remember him beingsuch a dick, yeah but like
dating a high schooler thingdidn't age well either like,
let's be, yeah, that shouldnever age.
Well, anyway, uh, but yeah, thewhole.
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But watching again, I was like,no, but it makes sense that he
is a jerk in this movie becauseof the, the journey that he goes
on, like that makes sense and Ithink, yeah, touching on that,
I think yeah, the reminder waslike yeah, basically I get so
distracted with this moviebecause there's so much, there's
so much going on visually.
Megan Turner (27:25):
Yeah.
Taylor D. Adams (27:25):
And even from a sound design perspective, like
oh my gosh, it's bananas thatsometimes I like forget to look
and see what the movie'sactually doing.
So yeah, showing this likeattraction to, uh, ramona is
like, basically, scott likecoming to realize that he's the
problem.
Megan Turner (27:45):
It's me, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,
exactly.
And then, like dealing withthat, and I think you know
there's always been somecontroversy over the ending and
did they handle it well andstuff, and you know that's
obviously there.
But I think also I really loveit from our perspective now of
having seen the anime that's onnetflix right, which I don't
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that's right.
Taylor D. Adams (28:07):
So that's right okay it's so good I forgot that
came out.
Okay, I'll I'll need to checkthat out you've got to watch it.
Megan Turner (28:12):
Yeah, it's so good , and I I think it's so good too
, because it revisits the thestory with fresh eyes okay that
say like okay, well, maybe weshouldn't kill our exes, maybe
we should like make peace withthat right um, doesn't sound as
fun.
Oh, I promise you it's stillfun.
It's still super fun.
Um, I loved what they did withit very cool and especially
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getting the whole cast backtogether, like who can do that
nowadays, you know?
Yeah like the whole cast Ithink it.
Taylor D. Adams (28:39):
You say that, but I feel like there are things
coming out within the past,like two or three years, like
these, like reboots and likelet's get the gang back together
, let's get the band backtogether, kind of thing, which
I'm I'm all for in certaincontexts, so like, but the fact
that they did it with and theychanged the it's, it's all
animated, right, it's all anime.
See, I like that when they,when they change the format of
things, keep it fresh, yeah.
Megan Turner (29:10):
I, author of the graphic novels, right um, was
inspired by anime to make thegraphic novels, and there's
obviously a lot taken from, youknow, traditional anime style in
that sense.
Then you know, the film wasmade and now, with the anime
being made, they actually got ananime studio to produce it.
So it's technically, I willfight you on this it is
technically anime, which isamazing and incredible, and and
the only thing non-anime aboutit is the fact that the idea was
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originally written by acanadian right that's literally
it.
Taylor D. Adams (29:34):
Yeah, I, I just love when there are these so
many intersections.
It's on on media, like you canhave a canadian graphic artist
who is inspired by a japaneseanime.
Then that gets turned into anorth american feature film with
a British director Like it'slike all of that.
I think I love when stuff likethat.
Megan Turner (29:53):
I love it.
I love that cross-culturalconnections, you know, because
it makes something so completelyunique that nobody could have
made like on their own.
Taylor D. Adams (30:01):
Yeah, you know, so what's your favorite moment
or scene from the movie?
Megan Turner (30:05):
This was such a hard question.
I was thinking about this,rewatching it, because it's hard
to pull any of the scenes outof context because they're so
connected you know it all justflows so much I think if I had
to pick one, I really like thesequence where he's meeting
Ramona for the first time.
Hey, what's up?
Clip (30:25):
Nothing.
Hey, you know Pac-Man, I knowof him Well.
Pac-man was originally calledPuck-Man.
They changed it because, notbecause Pac-Man looks like a
hockey puck.
Pacu-pacu means flap your mouth, and they were worried people
would change.
Scratch out the P, turn it intoan F, like yeah, that's amazing
(30:55):
.
Um, am I dreaming?
I'll leave you alone forevernow.
Megan Turner (30:58):
Thanks, we go into the party scene and you've got
all those insane cuts.
You can't even like you'd haveto pause it to like count them
all and the way that they'recutting.
And even you know, I waswatching with family and friends
um last night and some of themhadn't seen it before- and my
brother was like man.
This is so refreshing, thepacing of this party scene is
fast.
(31:18):
It's so fast.
It's so fast because it's likeokay, let me tell you what you
need to know.
Taylor D. Adams (31:23):
Right, what do you know?
What a party is?
Yeah, high school party.
We've seen all of these.
Megan Turner (31:26):
We know exactly what happens yeah, like you
don't need to see all the party,you just need to see scott
making fool of himself, you know.
Like that's all you need toknow.
And the I don't know the, theintersection.
I feel like it's such a good umencapsulation of the whole film
.
The way that the graphics areused and like where he's sliding
in and covering up the words tobe next to Ramona, the payoff
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of the Pac-Man joke, right, it'slike it.
It's just such a greatmicrocosm for the film itself.
And and also like, as much asScott is a terrible person, he's
also really adorkable.
So I love that, I love that wewere actually, so this was funny
.
We were watching it last nightand and again, there were people
who had never seen this filmbefore and they stopped like
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midway through the beginning.
Right, we hadn't even gotten toMatthew Patel yet, right?
Taylor D. Adams (32:14):
Okay.
Megan Turner (32:15):
Very early and they go.
I know why you like this film.
Taylor D. Adams (32:17):
And I was like what are you talking about?
Megan Turner (32:19):
You know, I like this film and they're like there
are some similarities with withyour husband Scott, and I was
like I know they are.
Taylor D. Adams (32:27):
I know they're hopefully not the problematic
reasons no, no, that like thatadorkable energy.
Megan Turner (32:34):
You know big nerd, really shy, like oh yeah,
that's, that's him, yeah, soyeah.
But I, I really love that sceneand and the interaction of the
characters and especially aubreyplaza, like I love introducing
people to this film because theyare so taken aback by all the
star talent.
Taylor D. Adams (32:51):
This is stacked .
It's a stacked cast.
Megan Turner (32:53):
Brie Larson's in this.
Yeah, chris Evans is in this.
I'm like yes, yes they were inthis and it was before you know.
A lot of them were really bigtoo, so it's crazy.
Taylor D. Adams (33:03):
So for you, recently watched for the first
time with your family Like yeahthey.
Megan Turner (33:08):
it was their first time yeah.
Taylor D. Adams (33:10):
What were?
Did you say anything to getthem to watch it?
Or you're like, hey, I'm goingto watch this movie for a
podcast.
Do you want to watch it with me?
Megan Turner (33:18):
Yeah, I mean, I basically rolled up yesterday
and was like, all right, I'mwatching this tonight, you guys
are watching with me.
Clip (33:22):
OK.
Taylor D. Adams (33:24):
What did they think?
Megan Turner (33:24):
of it.
Um, I think I think it was apositive reaction.
My mom is not the targetdemographic okay so.
So her reaction was a little, alittle different, that you know
.
I think they laughed at a lotof the jokes, so that was good,
but I think there was also verymuch a like.
I recognize who this is for andit's not me, so it is.
(33:45):
I think it is one of thosefilms that it's like it's a cult
classic for a reason.
Right that it resonates withsome people and it just not me.
Clip (33:49):
So it is.
Megan Turner (33:49):
I think it is one of those films that it's like
it's a cult classic for a reason, right that it resonates with
some people and it just doesn'tresonate with others, and that's
okay.
There are other Edgar Wrightfilms for them, so they can
watch Shaun of the Dead orsomething.
Taylor D. Adams (33:58):
I was actually a question I was going to ask.
You was like, if you had adouble feature with this and
another Edgar Wright movie, whatwould you pair it with?
Megan Turner (34:07):
Oh man, do I want to be funny or do I want to get
a good pairing?
Because I also really love LastNight in Soho, but that is I do
too but, a lot of people don'tlike it.
Oh no, oh no.
That's a hard watch man.
Some of those scenes are brutalbut still just gorgeous.
Editing Just amazing.
I would probably pair it with Idon't know, because if you want
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to do a sweet and salty kind ofthing, you can do scott pilgrim
last night in soho, but if youwanted to do something more
accessible, I'd probably doshauna the dead.
I feel like that's generallypleasing to most people you know
yeah and gets at that humoryeah right, yeah so if you had
to?
Taylor D. Adams (34:49):
people who watch and listen to this podcast
.
This thing is full of spoilers,so like hopefully people are
watching this, listen to it,know exactly what happens.
But if you were recommendingthis movie to someone, what
would you say to get them towatch it?
Megan Turner (35:04):
okay, I would.
I would tell them that theyneed to watch Scott Pilgrim vs
the World because it covers alot of themes that you get in a
rom-com right, it covers thosereally digestible themes of
dealing with relationships, butin the most fun way possible.
And I would say the one word ofcaution is that you need to sit
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down and buckle up and justembrace and let it happen,
because it's a ride, right, andyou, it was just in Scott's mind
and everyone else was justseeing him like fight these
people, right, right, and I waskind of like no and yes.
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You know, like it doesn't matterif it's real or not and I think
that's the perspective you haveto have coming into the film is
that it doesn't matter, likethe magical realism, like it
doesn't matter if it's real ornot, just let it happen, you
know I'm.
Taylor D. Adams (36:13):
I'm stealing this question from a podcast
that I was on.
They asked me and it's reallygreat um, if you hadn't seen
this movie, what person do youthink you would be like?
Who do you think you would beif you had not seen this movie?
Boring, probably you know.
Megan Turner (36:29):
That was my answer on the podcast boring I I feel
like the strength of this filmis that it it gives you
permission, right, it gives youso much permission, um, that you
see, like these flawed, theseflawed, crazy, like you know
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stereotypes and caricatures ofpeople, and you say like, well,
you know if those characters canfigure it out and like have
life and have relationships andit's messy, but they work
through it.
Then, like it's okay to bemessy, you know, it's okay to
admit that you were wrong, it'sokay messy, you know it's okay
(37:10):
to admit that you were wrong,it's it's okay like.
I think one of the mostpowerful things for me is near
the end, where scott has toactually like confront his
wrongdoings and like admit whathe's done.
Um, that there's there's thisfreedom of like, oh well, now
that, now that we've spoken it,right now that we have said I
did this and it was wrong and Ihurt you and I'm sorry.
Taylor D. Adams (37:30):
Bigger Scott.
Clip (37:35):
No, this is something I have to face Myself Solo round
this incredible French toastwith, like bananas on it.
You get bacon on the side.
I'm liking that, yeah, oh,let's do it next week.
Yeah, that's cool.
(37:55):
Yeah, all right, be good.
Yeah, hey, what happened?
Oh, nothing, we just shot theshit.
He's just a really nice guy.
We're gonna get brunch nextweek.
We actually have a lot incommon.
Megan Turner (38:08):
The weight just completely lifts, right, yeah,
that there's just this open pathforward, and I think you know
there's so much freedom whenyou're able to not take yourself
too seriously and admit thatyou're messy.
And so I think if I hadn't seenthis film, I probably would be
really boring and still tryingto like, I don't know, be a
(38:29):
normie.
Um, yeah, probably I dyed myhair.
Did I tell you that?
Taylor D. Adams (38:36):
Uh, after the movie.
Megan Turner (38:37):
No, no, no, no, no , like after during the pandemic
like.
I dyed it, so it was likepurple for a while.
And then it was like hot pinkfor a while yeah, yeah, and it's
.
It's like those things thatit's like I was always so scared
to do things, was it every weekand a half or?
No, it wasn't every week and ahalf.
That's expensive.
Clip (38:54):
No man, she does it at home.
Megan Turner (38:56):
That might make it easier, but no, no.
But I think, like those thoselittle tangible things that you
know, at the end of the day itdoesn't like, it doesn't mean
anything right it's just yourhair color right, it's not a big
deal, but it gives you thatpermission to kind of step
outside the box.
Taylor D. Adams (39:12):
Well, Megan, this is great.
Thanks so much for coming on.
I had a lot of fun revisitingthis movie.
Megan Turner (39:16):
Yeah, thanks for having me Go watch Scott Pogba.
Taylor D. Adams (39:19):
Do it.
I think it's a really fun ideato think about what got us into
our chosen career paths orinterests.
I mean, it doesn't have to be amovie, but it says something
about the power of art if ourexposure to it can lead us down
any number of paths in life,especially if it takes us into
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uncharted but rewardingterritory.
A huge thanks to Megan forchatting with me today and a
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Thank you to you for joining us.
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referenced in our conversation,as well as more information on
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Clip (41:10):
Thank y'all again.
Free by checking out the linkin the show notes.
Thank you all again.
So much for joining us today,but for now I got to take off.
If we're going to date, you may have to defeat my seven
evil exes.
You have seven evilex-boyfriends, seven evil exes,
yes, and I have to fight, defeat, defeat your seven evil exes if
we're going to continue to date.
Pretty much.
So what you're saying right nowis we are dating.
Uh.
Megan Turner (00:20):
I guess I really love this film because it takes
issue with when you're in arelationship you really have to
go through and be real with eachother.
Right, you have to go throughthe baggage.
I also love the packagingbecause I'm a huge Edgar Wright
fan.
I love how he directs with theedit in mind, rather than, you
(00:41):
know, getting into the editingsuite and saying, ok, what do we
do with this footage?
Every single shot.
It's like he's seen it already.
Taylor D. Adams (00:50):
Hi, I'm Taylor and welcome back to the Film
Nuts podcast, a show about whywe love what we watch.
When's the last time a movieopened up your world?
Not because you actively closedyourself off or anything, but
because the movie showed yousomething you hadn't even
thought of before, and the moreyou watched it, the more you
(01:11):
grew to appreciate it and themore inspired you became.
Scott Pilgrim vs the World,directed by Edgar Wright, is a
quirky, fast-paced visualkaleidoscope of young adult
(01:32):
angst and video game homagesthat, over time, drove my guest
today into a filmmaking career.
Megan Turner is a contentcreator and entrepreneur who is
working with a team to producethe documentary Synced Together
AMVs and their editors and ifyou're asking what an AMV is,
don't worry, we answer thatquickly.
(01:52):
Megan and I chat about howanime influences Western media,
how Scott Pilgrim vs the Worldhandles complex characters and
who Megan might have become hadshe not seen this movie.
So let's hit start.
Megan Turner (02:12):
The big thing I'm working on is documentary and
it's called Sync Together AMVsand their editors.
Taylor D. Adams (02:19):
Okay.
Megan Turner (02:20):
So, but to explain this, I have to ask you a
question first.
Do you know what an AMV is?
Taylor D. Adams (02:26):
Anime music video.
Yeah, okay, all right, coolGood.
Megan Turner (02:29):
Good, did you look that up, or did I tell you that
before?
Taylor D. Adams (02:32):
I want to, now that you talk about it.
I think you sent me some stuffa while ago, okay, but in the
subject line I said AMV andthat's the first thing that came
to my head, but I was like, Ijust thought of it as like a
super niche thing that not a lotof people are aware of, and I
think that's still true, butyeah, now you're working on
something about it.
Tell me about it.
Megan Turner (02:48):
Yeah yeah, it's actually the very first
documentary about AMVs ever, sothat's really exciting.
It's been seven years in themaking, so really it's been a
long time, yeah yeah.
And what's been crazy is so theteam that's been making this
right.
It's a pretty big team, but thecore team started seven years
ago and every step of the waywas the first time for
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everything.
They had never filmed anythingbefore, we never edited a
feature length documentarybefore, and so now it's really
beautiful to have it out in theworld.
We're doing communityscreenings, so at anime
conventions, which have gottenjust incredible reception and
feedback from people and howreally special and unique it is.
(03:32):
So I'm actually in thedocumentary and also on the team
behind the scenes, so that's,you know, a really interesting
dynamic.
And so we're screening it nowin conventions and then we're
working on DIY distribution.
So that'll be the next step andthat's even more exciting
because then you can share itwith people who don't come to
conventions and aren't big nerdslike us.
Taylor D. Adams (03:55):
Can you, for the audience that isn't aware of
AMV, anime Music Video?
Megan Turner (04:00):
can you?
Taylor D. Adams (04:01):
describe what it actually is.
Megan Turner (04:02):
Sure.
So an AMV is essentially youtake an anime that you love and
a song that you say, hey, thisactually goes with this, and you
make a music video with them.
So, for example, you can dosomething where, okay, well, you
love Dragon Ball Z right, thisis really common.
I also love Linkin Park right,this is kind of how it started
(04:24):
and they were like okay, well,we'll put them together and make
something unique, kind of thisfresh video version of fan art,
but also you can subvert itright, which is really fun.
And the first amv actually thatwas ever made was with um, an
80s anime called battleshipyamato.
I I really hope I didn'tbutcher that and it's this
(04:46):
brutal, you know space war kindof anime and the guy who edited
it, who just passed away lastyear, he's the first AMV editor
and he paired it with All youNeed Is Love.
Taylor D. Adams (04:58):
By the Beatles.
Yes, okay, and so it's thiscomedy right.
Megan Turner (05:01):
It's like people dying everywhere and all you
need is love.
Taylor D. Adams (05:04):
Yeah, okay, yeah Okay.
Megan Turner (05:05):
Yeah, so it's a really beautiful, interesting
kind of art form that subvertstradition and you know breaks
the rules a little bit, which Ithink you know falls in line
really well with Scott Pilgrim,to be honest.
Taylor D. Adams (05:16):
Yeah.
Megan Turner (05:17):
But, but yeah.
So a lot of these AMV editorstaught themselves how to edit
videos by doing this hobby andthat's how I learned how to edit
too.
So we're all really passionateabout it.
We want to see it.
You know, grow and change andyou know the international
community get closer and allthose things.
So the documentary is reallylike a love letter to AMVs and
(05:39):
to editors and the community andeverything.
Taylor D. Adams (05:42):
That's really cool.
One of the ones, one of theones or the clips I've seen from
any of you that makes me laughevery single time is the Dragon
Ball Z.
Whitney Houston.
I will, I will always love you.
I die laughing every time I seethat one.
Yeah, it cracks me up so much.
Megan Turner (06:00):
It's so good we did so.
My husband and I both edit AMVs.
Sorry, scott, I have to tellpeople.
He doesn't like it when I tellpeople.
Taylor D. Adams (06:07):
Why.
Megan Turner (06:07):
But well, it's such a nerdy thing, right?
A lot of AMV editors are reallyanonymous about it.
They're really private.
That's sad it is.
I hope it'll change.
But you know so we, during thepandemic, everybody had their
project right to like cope withthat.
So me and him watched um BoBurnham's Inside oh yeah, loved
(06:29):
it yeah loved it so, so much.
And so when, when we heard andsaw the song A White Woman's
Instagram, we're like, okay,we've got to do something with
this.
Right, we've got to dosomething.
And I said, you know, it'd begreat if we did that.
And did you know a multi-sourcelike all these different anime
and replicate every single shot?
(06:50):
right of of Bo Burnham's musicvideo yeah and I said that'd be
so great, but I would never doit because it'd be so much work
to recreate, like Instagram UIsand things like that.
And my husband was like, well,I'll do that part.
So.
So we made it together.
We made an.
Amv and it's called Weepstagramand it's it's so good, it's so
(07:12):
good.
Taylor D. Adams (07:12):
Yeah, this.
Well, this actually, I think,ties in perfectly with your
choice of film you wanted todiscuss today.
So, outside of the similarconnections between AMv and
scott pilgrim versus the world,why do you love this movie?
Megan Turner (07:27):
so I think there's two reasons right there's the
content and there's thepackaging of the movie right.
So the content I really love umthis film because it takes
issue with when you're in arelationship you really have to
go through and be real with eachother.
Right, you have to go throughthe baggage, the evil exes right
(07:49):
.
You got to deal with this stuffif you're really going to be in
an authentic relationship, insomething deep and real.
And so I love that and I lovethe you know dismantling of this
idea of Ramona as this perfectperson and you realize that
she's not right.
Scott's not for sure but thatyou can still have a
relationship with imperfectpeople, right?
(08:11):
I love that.
I also love the packaging,because I'm a huge Edgar Wright
fan.
I love his work, I love how hedirects with the edit in mind,
and so, rather than, you know,getting into the editing suite
and saying, okay, what do we dowith this footage?
You know every single shot,it's like he's seen it already,
(08:31):
you know.
And so all the in-cameratransitions and you know,
beautiful, just synergy of theaudio mixing and design and the
visual and the graphics and theacting and everything.
It's just, it flows together so, so well and I feel like he's
such an unsung hero in film, tobe honest, you know it was.
(08:52):
It was shocking to me.
You know, we just saw theoscars not too long ago and I
was like you know what.
I don't think edgar wright'sever won an oscar and I looked
it up I was like no, he's neverbeen nominated no for an oscar.
I was like this is atrocious,so that's why I wanted to talk
about it mr pilgrim, it is I,matthew patel.
Clip (09:16):
Consider our fight begun.
What did I do?
What do I do Fight.
Taylor D. Adams (09:29):
Fight.
I feel like, yeah, I personallylove his style as well.
I think it's incredibly uniqueand provides a lot of action
where there isn't action.
I think there was a every frameof painting video essay on, uh,
(09:52):
how he edits non-action intoaction and it's really great.
I mean, a lot of people haven'tbeen a lot of great filmmakers,
have never been nominated orwon an oscar hitchcock number
one, an oscar really yep, I didnot know.
Megan Turner (10:03):
Yeah, that's wild I hope so.
Taylor D. Adams (10:06):
I just said it.
Megan Turner (10:06):
I'm like we'll fix that.
Taylor D. Adams (10:07):
Um, I'll fix that post, uh, so tell me about.
So this movie came out in 2010,so tell me about.
Yeah, tell me about the firsttime you remember seeing this
movie, like who were you?
Where were you with?
What was that experience like?
Megan Turner (10:24):
Yeah, so I I actually don't remember the
specific first time that I sawthis movie, but I know the
context because, um, in 2010, Iwas in college.
It's like forever ago.
Uh, I was in college and I wasnot into anime and I didn't play
fighting video games, rightLike.
(10:45):
So the two kind of things youneed to love to love this film
at least you know, from anaesthetic standpoint Right.
Yeah, I didn't love, but I wassurrounded by people who did.
You know, all of my friendswere anime nerds, and so it was
kind of destiny that I I wouldbecome one too.
But but you know, I was roomingwith my best friend and we
(11:06):
regularly would have these movienights, right especially
because one of our um roommateswas from china and so we were
trying to introduce her to allthese western films.
We poor thing she sat throughlord of the rings and hated
every second what she hated itwas so slow.
You know, whatever I love Lordof the Rings, but, um, but one
of the movies that we watchedwas Scott Pilgrim and I think
(11:30):
that in future watches,especially you know, when, um,
when my husband and I startedtalking and becoming closer
friends, you know we watched itagain and it was like every
single time that I'd watch itagain I'd love it more, you know
, um, just because I was kind ofbeing sucked into that
community and also because I wasbecoming more aware of film,
(11:54):
right, and realizing what ittook to make a film like this.
You know, in 2010, I wasn't evenin film yet you know um I was
still, you know, acting intheater and it wasn't until 2011
that I really got introducedthrough screenwriting, to, you
know, the world of film and kindof the other side of the coin,
right from theater, and reallyfell in love with it then.
(12:15):
So, yeah it's, it's a moviethat I started out kind of kind
of interested, kind of curiousabout, and just every single
watch has grown on me even morewhat about?
Taylor D. Adams (12:23):
it has grown and kind of like, yeah, with
that, what has made you, or whatmade you come around to like
loving film?
Uh, as much as you do yeah,yeah, I think it was.
Megan Turner (12:38):
It was two things.
So when I first got starteddoing film, I was a pa and you
know this because you hired me.
Taylor D. Adams (12:46):
What shoot was that?
That was forever ago.
I was trying to remember.
Megan Turner (12:49):
That was Brian.
I think that was 2012, maybe.
Taylor D. Adams (12:52):
That sounds about right, cause I put out
Brian in 2013.
Nobody looked that up, cause Idon't like that.
I don't like watching thatmovie anymore.
Megan Turner (12:58):
It doesn't exist, Just ignore.
No, but you I was thinkingabout this recently, man, you
know, sometimes like the firstloaf of bread I baked was not
any good, but you had to do it.
You know, I feel like, asfilmmakers like you got to just
start somewhere.
And that was.
I think the beautiful thingabout that era of my life was
that it was like, you know,getting your feet wet and being
(13:20):
on set late nights and earlymornings and coffee, and kind of
grow to love it, even thoughit's kind of wild and
unpredictable and you're, youknow, beating your head against
the wall trying to makesomething good.
Um, and so I love theproduction side from that end.
So also bringing my husbandinto this.
So when I got married to himand I moved to Virginia, I had
absolutely nothing to do, Ibeyond nothing to do, because I
(13:43):
didn't have a job.
I didn't know a single personin the town we moved to, and so
I was like, well, what else am Igoing to do?
I'll learn to edit.
So he taught me how to usePremiere and it was terrible.
We had so many fights becausehe's like, well, hit the cut
button.
And I was like these arehieroglyphics, they mean nothing
to me.
You know, um, but I edited myfirst AMV.
And you know, um, but I editedmy first amv.
And you know that was when Istarted really understanding
(14:06):
what it took to create a paceand a flow in an edit and really
like respect and understand theeffort that goes in on the back
end to all the post-productionum, and at that point, you know
I was kind of hooked.
You know I started making amvsand and going to contests and
the crazy thing is so I had myfirst child in 2018, which was
(14:30):
awesome.
But long story short, I endedup having to quit my job the
morning she was born.
Clip (14:36):
Oh shoot.
Megan Turner (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, I went in and talked to my boss and I
was like look, I know, swore upand down for nine months, I
wasn't going anywhere, but mychild care canceled.
Clip (14:45):
So sorry, oh wow.
Megan Turner (14:46):
And that night she was born, and so the next month
, not the next day, good Lord.
The next month I started mybusiness, poppy Plum Media,
because I couldn't go back towork.
I had to be home with her and Iknew we had to bring in an
income.
This was the only thing I knewhow to do now.
So from there it just kind oftook off and and now I'm
(15:07):
inextricably linked to filmforever.
Taylor D. Adams (15:11):
That's awesome.
Um, so your business popularmedia um, as well as your work
with documentaries andeverything, you're very much
content creator.
You run your own business.
Do you think that the style ofthis movie shaped your movies
and content and TV that cameafter it?
Megan Turner (15:33):
I do.
I think it was ahead of itstime, so what?
Clip (15:36):
can I f***ing get you?
Is there anywhere you don'twork.
They're called jobs, somethinga f***ing ball like you wouldn't
know anything about.
And, by the way, I can'tf***ing believe you asked Ramona
out after I specifically toldyou not to f***ing do that.
How are you doing that withyour mouth?
You never f***ing mind how I'mdoing it.
What do you have to say foryourself?
Can I get a caramel macchiato?
You know what?
Maybe it's high time you took alook in the mirror before you
(15:58):
wreak havoc on another girl.
Megan Turner (16:00):
It broke ground in this style of you know kind of
rebellious filmmaking, right,breaking the fourth wall,
breaking the rules, breaking youknow form and still telling a
story that was you know notshallow by any means, like this
is a deep story, but it's toldin a way that's so accessible,
right, I think of even likecurrent films that do this right
(16:21):
, like we just recognize Barbieas an Oscar nom right and.
American fiction as an Oscar nom, and, and these are films that
have really important messages,but they're also palatable to
watch, right?
They're not bashing you overthe head with it.
It's really accessible for theaverage person and so, yeah, I
think it impacted that.
I think it also impacted popculture, right?
Taylor D. Adams (16:45):
There was this huge.
Megan Turner (16:46):
I mean obviously box office flop, because of
course.
But you know, after it came out, you know this rise in this
kind of alt-punk after it cameout you know this rise in this
kind of alt punk, you knowacceptance in pop culture and
and all of these things.
And you know, even inhipsterdom, which I was
definitely accused of beinghipster Um, but of course I
wasn't because they just didn'tget it.
Taylor D. Adams (17:09):
They just didn't get it yeah.
Megan Turner (17:10):
It was just deep.
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Okay, enough of me rambling backto the good stuff.
The thing that I was noticingthis time around watching it is
I hadn't seen it since, uh,around the time it came out.
Um, I remember it.
I remember, uh, appreciating it, but not like loving it, and I
(18:17):
think I still feel that way.
But I'm looking at it now andI'm like, visually and
aesthetically, this was like way, like we're seeing stuff in the
past three years that visuallylooks like this movie.
Megan Turner (18:32):
Yeah.
Taylor D. Adams (18:32):
Like, especially with visual effects,
um, and even and and and beyond,like content you watch on your
phone, like like, uh, tik TOKstuff and Instagram filters and
stuff like that.
But like I immediately actuallythought of, uh, into the spider
verse, with just the way thatit incorporated graphic novel
(18:53):
language, like having that onscreen.
One of my favorite bits in intothe spider-verse is like
someone gets hit with a bageland bagel shows up.
Yeah, yeah, that's one.
And so, like watching thismovie, I was reminded a lot of
that, a lot of that aestheticthat I really loved, and this
movie to me, like I'd forgottenhow visually striking everything
(19:15):
is.
Like like in my, my head I waslike, yeah, no, yeah, duh.
But like watching it and I waslike, oh yeah, this had a lot to
do and there are a lot ofreally like funny, clever jokes
in it too as well.
Um, but one of the thing goingback, we were talking about, how
the stuff you, you weren't intolike, uh, the pop culture,
nerdy, video gamey type stufflike this, obviously, movies,
(19:38):
this has all of that.
Oh, yeah.
But a lot of what isincorporated, especially with
the visual effects, stuff isvery like eight bit oriented and
very things that can triggernostalgia in a lot of people.
Things that can triggernostalgia in a lot of people.
What kind of power do you thinknostalgia has over an audience,
(19:59):
both with this movie and maybejust in general?
Megan Turner (20:02):
Yeah, I think that you know.
Obviously we see a lot ofcompanies trying to capitalize
on nostalgia right now and youcan tell when it's fake and you
can tell when it's real.
And I think when it's real, andat its best, it's not
necessarily a longing for thatthing that you're nostalgic for.
I think it's a nostalgia forthe person you were when you
(20:24):
engaged with that thing first,right.
So you know, I mentioned we havekids and so we're introducing
them to not just current, likeMario and gaming, and stuff but
also like they played mario 64heck yeah, it's like, right,
they're cool, they're cool umgreat parents you are thank you,
I know, I know, uh, so I thinkit's, it's really nostalgic for
(20:48):
us to to give our kids thisthing that we played when we
were kids and or at least Iplayed when I was a kid but, um,
it's, it's this kind ofconnection between you know this
, I guess, reconnecting withyour childhood and then also
passing it on right to the nextgeneration, and I think for me.
(21:08):
When I see films like ScottPilgrim, it reminds me of one of
the best versions of myself,right.
Who I was in in 2010, like incollege, before all the
complications you know come upof life of the heaviness of a
mortgage and things like that.
Taylor D. Adams (21:25):
When you say like the better version, is it
like?
Do you mean like just moreinnocent with less
responsibilities, like the morefun, like the more carefree, a
little?
Megan Turner (21:33):
bit, a little bit, I think.
I think there was just so muchmore freedom to like be creative
, Like I.
There's there's a word that Ialways associate with that era
of my life, and it's moxie.
Clip (21:45):
Okay, right, but it was like.
Megan Turner (21:47):
No one told me I couldn't, so I was just going to
do it.
You know, I was just, you know,gonna walk barefoot all over
campus because I thought maybeit was bringing awareness to
kids without shoes.
Right, like right, you rememberthat.
Taylor D. Adams (21:58):
Oh, I remember judging those people.
Megan Turner (21:59):
Yeah, that was me.
That was me, I'll admit it, butit like I wasn't judged, but I
was worried.
Taylor D. Adams (22:04):
I was worried.
Megan Turner (22:05):
Yeah, it hurt, it hurt.
No, but that like courage ofconviction.
Right right of like, justwithout restriction, being
yourself and and I think now youknow that's lost a little bit,
at least for me personally,because you know I'm a mom, I'm
I'm the business owner and I'mold or at least I feel older and
(22:26):
and it feels like there's somuch consequence for being
yourself, right in a certain way.
I think in some ways we'vetried to open that up as a
society, but also I think it'sbeen hampered a lot by how much
social media has grown betweenlike 2010 and now and the ways
that it's pivoted into likemonetizing yourself.
(22:46):
So living in that age where youknow I didn't have to monetize
myself, I didn't have to worryabout my brand image, you
weren't worried about analgorithm.
Yeah, no, I was not worriedabout an algorithm at all.
I didn't even know that analgorithm existed.
You know, I was just having funand being silly, and yeah.
And so I think you know we goback to these pieces of content,
(23:09):
that we go back to thesetouchstones to try to regain
that piece of ourself, right,and you always look back with
rose colored glasses, right,like make no mistake, but but I
think that to me, that's whatnostalgia really does and why I
love it.
Taylor D. Adams (23:23):
What do you, what do you think we can do to
Hold on to who we used to be?
Like you know, it's nice tohave reminders you know of, of
the people we used to be, thethe times in which we used to
exist, but, like, surely there'sgotta be a way to retain that,
(23:44):
some of that who we are.
I just I recently did thisvideo essay on memory and how,
even if we forget, like theevents of things, like we're
still shaped by, like whatactually happened to us and what
we participated in.
So I mean, I did not send youthe question ahead of time,
because I just thought of it.
Yeah, is there, is there.
Is there a way you think thatwe can both remember who we were
(24:07):
and hold on to those things wefound important back then and
and and keep them going now,especially like raising a
younger generation?
Megan Turner (24:15):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think it's a balanceright, like you want to look
back fondly and take with youthe pieces of of yourself that
you want to keep right, that youwant to preserve, but also
recognize that that it wasn'tperfect, right?
I?
Taylor D. Adams (24:29):
mean.
Megan Turner (24:29):
Scott Pilgrim is a great example of this right of
Ramona looking back at all heryou know chapters of her love
life right and saying like wow,I was kind of a bitch.
Clip (24:38):
You're going.
I should probably disappearAfter all that.
I still need a new life.
I came here to escape, but thepast keeps catching up.
I'm tired of people gettinghurt because of me.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to getover it.
I don't mean just you, no.
(25:04):
I understand.
I should thank you, though, forwhat?
Megan Turner (25:09):
For being the nicest guy I ever dated the fact
that she's coming to terms withthat fact that that the past
use or whatever like there wasgood and bad right, and I think
the way to take the good withyou is is to, one, see it for
what it was right, but then alsoto recognize that you are still
that person right, that that,as much as you know, there's
been times in my life where Ididn't feel like, but then also
to recognize that you are stillthat person right, that, as much
(25:30):
as you know, there's been timesin my life where I didn't feel
like I had an Emoxy right, butrecognizing that I can look back
at especially content I created, journaling that I did right.
Those tangible pieces, evenpictures, and say like that
person is still in here, youknow, like you can be that again
, you can be the parts of thatyou want to be again.
(25:51):
You know, and I thinkespecially I don't know to me
post pandemic.
I think that's especiallyimportant because we lost so
much during the pandemic thatnow trying to regain, even four
years past the beginning of it,right, which is still wild to me
to think about.
Taylor D. Adams (26:05):
That was four years, I know, right it started
four years ago.
Megan Turner (26:08):
I've been thinking about this a lot lately, Right,
and I'm like man, that's that'scrazy.
Taylor D. Adams (26:12):
It feels like last year and 10 years ago.
Megan Turner (26:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think that you know that'sa really important exercise for
us to do now to like go backand say like, yeah, we can do
these things, we can be thesepeople again.
Right, I have a friend who wentto a concert alone, uh, this
past weekend.
She was so proud of herself andI was like I'm so proud of you,
like I wouldn't do that.
Taylor D. Adams (26:35):
I go to the movies alone all the time.
That's awesome.
That's awesome yeah.
Megan Turner (26:39):
And it's it's regaining that like I can you
know, so I will.
Taylor D. Adams (26:44):
Yeah, so I'm glad you brought that up about
ramona, because, like scott is,basically, he's not a good
person, he's a trash person Iwas like watching this I was
like I don't remember him beingsuch a dick, yeah but like
dating a high schooler thingdidn't age well either like,
let's be, yeah, that shouldnever age.
Well, anyway, uh, but yeah, thewhole.
(27:04):
But watching again, I was like,no, but it makes sense that he
is a jerk in this movie becauseof the, the journey that he goes
on, like that makes sense and Ithink, yeah, touching on that,
I think yeah, the reminder waslike yeah, basically I get so
distracted with this moviebecause there's so much, there's
so much going on visually.
Megan Turner (27:25):
Yeah.
Taylor D. Adams (27:25):
And even from a sound design perspective, like
oh my gosh, it's bananas thatsometimes I like forget to look
and see what the movie'sactually doing.
So yeah, showing this likeattraction to, uh, ramona is
like, basically, scott likecoming to realize that he's the
problem.
Megan Turner (27:45):
It's me, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,
exactly.
And then, like dealing withthat, and I think you know
there's always been somecontroversy over the ending and
did they handle it well andstuff, and you know that's
obviously there.
But I think also I really loveit from our perspective now of
having seen the anime that's onnetflix right, which I don't
(28:06):
that's right.
Taylor D. Adams (28:07):
So that's right okay it's so good I forgot that
came out.
Okay, I'll I'll need to checkthat out you've got to watch it.
Megan Turner (28:12):
Yeah, it's so good , and I I think it's so good too
, because it revisits the thestory with fresh eyes okay that
say like okay, well, maybe weshouldn't kill our exes, maybe
we should like make peace withthat right um, doesn't sound as
fun.
Oh, I promise you it's stillfun.
It's still super fun.
Um, I loved what they did withit very cool and especially
(28:32):
getting the whole cast backtogether, like who can do that
nowadays, you know?
Yeah like the whole cast Ithink it.
Taylor D. Adams (28:39):
You say that, but I feel like there are things
coming out within the past,like two or three years, like
these, like reboots and likelet's get the gang back together
, let's get the band backtogether, kind of thing, which
I'm I'm all for in certaincontexts, so like, but the fact
that they did it with and theychanged the it's, it's all
animated, right, it's all anime.
See, I like that when they,when they change the format of
things, keep it fresh, yeah.
Megan Turner (29:10):
I, author of the graphic novels, right um, was
inspired by anime to make thegraphic novels, and there's
obviously a lot taken from, youknow, traditional anime style in
that sense.
Then you know, the film wasmade and now, with the anime
being made, they actually got ananime studio to produce it.
So it's technically, I willfight you on this it is
technically anime, which isamazing and incredible, and and
the only thing non-anime aboutit is the fact that the idea was
(29:31):
originally written by acanadian right that's literally
it.
Taylor D. Adams (29:34):
Yeah, I, I just love when there are these so
many intersections.
It's on on media, like you canhave a canadian graphic artist
who is inspired by a japaneseanime.
Then that gets turned into anorth american feature film with
a British director Like it'slike all of that.
I think I love when stuff likethat.
Megan Turner (29:53):
I love it.
I love that cross-culturalconnections, you know, because
it makes something so completelyunique that nobody could have
made like on their own.
Taylor D. Adams (30:01):
Yeah, you know, so what's your favorite moment
or scene from the movie?
Megan Turner (30:05):
This was such a hard question.
I was thinking about this,rewatching it, because it's hard
to pull any of the scenes outof context because they're so
connected you know it all justflows so much I think if I had
to pick one, I really like thesequence where he's meeting
Ramona for the first time.
Hey, what's up?
Clip (30:25):
Nothing.
Hey, you know Pac-Man, I knowof him Well.
Pac-man was originally calledPuck-Man.
They changed it because, notbecause Pac-Man looks like a
hockey puck.
Pacu-pacu means flap your mouth, and they were worried people
would change.
Scratch out the P, turn it intoan F, like yeah, that's amazing
(30:55):
.
Um, am I dreaming?
I'll leave you alone forevernow.
Megan Turner (30:58):
Thanks, we go into the party scene and you've got
all those insane cuts.
You can't even like you'd haveto pause it to like count them
all and the way that they'recutting.
And even you know, I waswatching with family and friends
um last night and some of themhadn't seen it before- and my
brother was like man.
This is so refreshing, thepacing of this party scene is
fast.
(31:18):
It's so fast.
It's so fast because it's likeokay, let me tell you what you
need to know.
Taylor D. Adams (31:23):
Right, what do you know?
What a party is?
Yeah, high school party.
We've seen all of these.
Megan Turner (31:26):
We know exactly what happens yeah, like you
don't need to see all the party,you just need to see scott
making fool of himself, you know.
Like that's all you need toknow.
And the I don't know the, theintersection.
I feel like it's such a good umencapsulation of the whole film
.
The way that the graphics areused and like where he's sliding
in and covering up the words tobe next to Ramona, the payoff
(31:47):
of the Pac-Man joke, right, it'slike it.
It's just such a greatmicrocosm for the film itself.
And and also like, as much asScott is a terrible person, he's
also really adorkable.
So I love that, I love that wewere actually, so this was funny
.
We were watching it last nightand and again, there were people
who had never seen this filmbefore and they stopped like
(32:10):
midway through the beginning.
Right, we hadn't even gotten toMatthew Patel yet, right?
Taylor D. Adams (32:14):
Okay.
Megan Turner (32:15):
Very early and they go.
I know why you like this film.
Taylor D. Adams (32:17):
And I was like what are you talking about?
Megan Turner (32:19):
You know, I like this film and they're like there
are some similarities with withyour husband Scott, and I was
like I know they are.
Taylor D. Adams (32:27):
I know they're hopefully not the problematic
reasons no, no, that like thatadorkable energy.
Megan Turner (32:34):
You know big nerd, really shy, like oh yeah,
that's, that's him, yeah, soyeah.
But I, I really love that sceneand and the interaction of the
characters and especially aubreyplaza, like I love introducing
people to this film because theyare so taken aback by all the
star talent.
Taylor D. Adams (32:51):
This is stacked .
It's a stacked cast.
Megan Turner (32:53):
Brie Larson's in this.
Yeah, chris Evans is in this.
I'm like yes, yes they were inthis and it was before you know.
A lot of them were really bigtoo, so it's crazy.
Taylor D. Adams (33:03):
So for you, recently watched for the first
time with your family Like yeahthey.
Megan Turner (33:08):
it was their first time yeah.
Taylor D. Adams (33:10):
What were?
Did you say anything to getthem to watch it?
Or you're like, hey, I'm goingto watch this movie for a
podcast.
Do you want to watch it with me?
Megan Turner (33:18):
Yeah, I mean, I basically rolled up yesterday
and was like, all right, I'mwatching this tonight, you guys
are watching with me.
Clip (33:22):
OK.
Taylor D. Adams (33:24):
What did they think?
Megan Turner (33:24):
of it.
Um, I think I think it was apositive reaction.
My mom is not the targetdemographic okay so.
So her reaction was a little, alittle different, that you know
.
I think they laughed at a lotof the jokes, so that was good,
but I think there was also verymuch a like.
I recognize who this is for andit's not me, so it is.
(33:45):
I think it is one of thosefilms that it's like it's a cult
classic for a reason.
Right that it resonates withsome people and it just not me.
Clip (33:49):
So it is.
Megan Turner (33:49):
I think it is one of those films that it's like
it's a cult classic for a reason, right that it resonates with
some people and it just doesn'tresonate with others, and that's
okay.
There are other Edgar Wrightfilms for them, so they can
watch Shaun of the Dead orsomething.
Taylor D. Adams (33:58):
I was actually a question I was going to ask.
You was like, if you had adouble feature with this and
another Edgar Wright movie, whatwould you pair it with?
Megan Turner (34:07):
Oh man, do I want to be funny or do I want to get
a good pairing?
Because I also really love LastNight in Soho, but that is I do
too but, a lot of people don'tlike it.
Oh no, oh no.
That's a hard watch man.
Some of those scenes are brutalbut still just gorgeous.
Editing Just amazing.
I would probably pair it with Idon't know, because if you want
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to do a sweet and salty kind ofthing, you can do scott pilgrim
last night in soho, but if youwanted to do something more
accessible, I'd probably doshauna the dead.
I feel like that's generallypleasing to most people you know
yeah and gets at that humoryeah right, yeah so if you had
to?
Taylor D. Adams (34:49):
people who watch and listen to this podcast
.
This thing is full of spoilers,so like hopefully people are
watching this, listen to it,know exactly what happens.
But if you were recommendingthis movie to someone, what
would you say to get them towatch it?
Megan Turner (35:04):
okay, I would.
I would tell them that theyneed to watch Scott Pilgrim vs
the World because it covers alot of themes that you get in a
rom-com right, it covers thosereally digestible themes of
dealing with relationships, butin the most fun way possible.
And I would say the one word ofcaution is that you need to sit
(35:29):
down and buckle up and justembrace and let it happen,
because it's a ride, right, andyou, it was just in Scott's mind
and everyone else was justseeing him like fight these
people, right, right, and I waskind of like no and yes.
(36:03):
You know, like it doesn't matterif it's real or not and I think
that's the perspective you haveto have coming into the film is
that it doesn't matter, likethe magical realism, like it
doesn't matter if it's real ornot, just let it happen, you
know I'm.
Taylor D. Adams (36:13):
I'm stealing this question from a podcast
that I was on.
They asked me and it's reallygreat um, if you hadn't seen
this movie, what person do youthink you would be like?
Who do you think you would beif you had not seen this movie?
Boring, probably you know.
Megan Turner (36:29):
That was my answer on the podcast boring I I feel
like the strength of this filmis that it it gives you
permission, right, it gives youso much permission, um, that you
see, like these flawed, theseflawed, crazy, like you know
(36:49):
stereotypes and caricatures ofpeople, and you say like, well,
you know if those characters canfigure it out and like have
life and have relationships andit's messy, but they work
through it.
Then, like it's okay to bemessy, you know, it's okay to
admit that you were wrong, it'sokay messy, you know it's okay
(37:10):
to admit that you were wrong,it's it's okay like.
I think one of the mostpowerful things for me is near
the end, where scott has toactually like confront his
wrongdoings and like admit whathe's done.
Um, that there's there's thisfreedom of like, oh well, now
that, now that we've spoken it,right now that we have said I
did this and it was wrong and Ihurt you and I'm sorry.
Taylor D. Adams (37:30):
Bigger Scott.
Clip (37:35):
No, this is something I have to face Myself Solo round
this incredible French toastwith, like bananas on it.
You get bacon on the side.
I'm liking that, yeah, oh,let's do it next week.
Yeah, that's cool.
(37:55):
Yeah, all right, be good.
Yeah, hey, what happened?
Oh, nothing, we just shot theshit.
He's just a really nice guy.
We're gonna get brunch nextweek.
We actually have a lot incommon.
Megan Turner (38:08):
The weight just completely lifts, right, yeah,
that there's just this open pathforward, and I think you know
there's so much freedom whenyou're able to not take yourself
too seriously and admit thatyou're messy.
And so I think if I hadn't seenthis film, I probably would be
really boring and still tryingto like, I don't know, be a
(38:29):
normie.
Um, yeah, probably I dyed myhair.
Did I tell you that?
Taylor D. Adams (38:36):
Uh, after the movie.
Megan Turner (38:37):
No, no, no, no, no , like after during the pandemic
like.
I dyed it, so it was likepurple for a while.
And then it was like hot pinkfor a while yeah, yeah, and it's
.
It's like those things thatit's like I was always so scared
to do things, was it every weekand a half or?
No, it wasn't every week and ahalf.
That's expensive.
Clip (38:54):
No man, she does it at home.
Megan Turner (38:56):
That might make it easier, but no, no.
But I think, like those thoselittle tangible things that you
know, at the end of the day itdoesn't like, it doesn't mean
anything right it's just yourhair color right, it's not a big
deal, but it gives you thatpermission to kind of step
outside the box.
Taylor D. Adams (39:12):
Well, Megan, this is great.
Thanks so much for coming on.
I had a lot of fun revisitingthis movie.
Megan Turner (39:16):
Yeah, thanks for having me Go watch Scott Pogba.
Taylor D. Adams (39:19):
Do it.
I think it's a really fun ideato think about what got us into
our chosen career paths orinterests.
I mean, it doesn't have to be amovie, but it says something
about the power of art if ourexposure to it can lead us down
any number of paths in life,especially if it takes us into
(39:42):
uncharted but rewardingterritory.
A huge thanks to Megan forchatting with me today and a
vegan super powered size.
Thank you to you for joining us.
Please check out the linksbelow to see some of the AMVs we
referenced in our conversation,as well as more information on
Megan's documentary syncedtogether AMVs and their editors.
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