September 11, 2025 • 30 mins
In a world where antidepressants are more common than multivitamins and junk food is cheaper than fresh fruit, being healthy is no longer the default — it's a luxury.
In this hard-hitting episode, Zeke Guenthroth dives deep into the collapse of health in Australia and across the globe. With skyrocketing obesity, declining mental resilience, and a pharmaceutical industry booming off your breakdown, we expose how society is designed to keep you sick, slow, and sedated.
We cover:
- Australia's rising suicide rates and skyrocketing prescriptions for ADHD, anxiety, and depression
- The obesity epidemic — how it became the norm, and what it’s costing us
- Muscle loss, cardiovascular disease, and the collapse of everyday physical strength
- The cost gap between junk food and nutritious options — and how big food giants profit from it
- Ultra-processed foods (UPFs) and their addictive role in breaking our bodies
- Government health spending — why prevention gets less than 2% of the budget
- How diagnosis inflation is reframing childhood behaviour as clinical disorders
- The war on masculinity and physical strength in schools, media, and culture
- Solutions: Gym rebates, taxing UPFs, and reframing physicality as essential
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Zeke Guenthroth (00:00):
In a world where junk food is cheaper than
fruit and antidepressants aremore common than multivitamins,
being healthy in Australia, oreven the world in general, is
now something considered aluxury, not a given.
Obesity has completely flippedthe script.
There's more kids now that areobese than underweight worldwide
yes, worldwide.
And we don't have a healthcaresystem.
(00:21):
We have a sick care system, Anindustry that provides you help
when you break, not preventingthe break.
Today, we're going to bediscussing all things health.
Let's jump into it.
(00:42):
Welcome back to another episodeof the Finance Bible Podcast.
You're joined with myself, zeke, and your co-host, oscar.
But before we get into it,please note that nothing in this
podcast should ever beconsidered as personal financial
advice.
But if that is what you areseeking, get in touch, let us
know and we will hook you upwith the correct professionals.
Sit back, relax and enjoy theshow.
(01:04):
Let's get into it.
Welcome back.
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But getting into the actualepisode today, it's a good one.
(01:53):
We're talking about health andwe're not just talking mental,
we're talking physical as well.
We're just talking health fullstop.
So basically let's just take azoomed out approach.
First of all, obesity isactually a pandemic worldwide
now, not just in America.
It's affecting Australia, it'saffecting America itself, it's
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affecting pretty much everywherein the world.
We live in a world where it'smore common to be obese than
underweight.
Now it's more common to beeither one of the two than
healthy.
Nearly.
It depends on what country, butover 890 million adults this is
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back in 2022, were obese, soit's over a billion now.
By 2050, it's projected thatabout 3.8 billion worldwide will
be overweight or obese.
We have 188 million obesechildren, which is outnumbering
the amount of underweightchildren.
So we've got too much food, butwe'll get to that soon and it's
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costing about $4 trillion ayear in the next 10 years.
It's going to be a fair chunkof GDP.
We're talking like 3% to 5%.
So more children now worldwideare obese and starving and we
call it progress.
I remember when I was growing up, I was watching.
You'd get a lot of ads on TVand you're trying to get food to
places because there'smalnourished children all around
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the world and stuff.
Well, now it's the opposite.
So there's malnourishedchildren all around the world
and stuff.
Well, now it's the opposite.
So there's a problem Mentalhealth worldwide shocking.
So over a billion people livewith mental illness globally,
like depression or anxiety andso on.
It costs about $16 trillion inthe economy and by 2030, that's
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expected to increase prettydrastically.
Global antidepressants, adhdprescriptions, so on have
actually skyrocketed, while theroot causes of such haven't
actually been dealt with, likethey're ignored.
This is why in the trailer youwould have heard I called it.
We don't have a healthcaresystem.
We have basically a system thathelps you once you are broken.
We should have a preventionsystem.
So basically, if you're sad,what we do is we medicate you
(04:15):
and go hey, this will help youwith your sadness instead of
going oh, why are you sad.
And fixing that.
Suicide and emotional decline isever growing.
So the men's suicide rate, wealready know, is globally three
to four times higher than women.
But women's suicide is actuallyon the increase as well as men.
So they're both going up.
In fact, women have gone upquicker than men in recent times
(04:36):
, but men still dominate bybasically a four times
multiplier.
So we are suffering prettydrastically the stigma around
around it.
And then you get people undertreatment and like as in,
undertreated, they don't havepeople to talk to or they don't
know what to do, they don't knowthat they should hit the gym
and so on, and then theyultimately they just go into
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social isolation because of lackof confidence or anxious
feeling and so on.
Cardiovascular disease, muscleloss like cardiovascular
diseases kill like 20 millionbecause of lack of confidence or
anxious feeling and so on.
Cardiovascular disease, muscleloss, like cardiovascular
diseases, kill like 20 millionpeople each year, which is a
huge number it's like not quite,but it's basically the
Australian population minus afew million, and that's actually
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the leading cause of deathworldwide.
And then you've got muscle loss, like muscles deteriorating
rapidly around the world,especially in people from 40 and
over.
And if you start losing muscleby the time you're 30 and it
goes down and down and down, youhit 80, half of it's gone and
then fragility skyrockets.
You've got hips and stuffgetting put out of place,
dislocated, or your grandparentsor your parents, if you're in
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the older generation, becomereal fragile and they just
basically fall apart like an oldmachine that hasn't been
serviced.
And that's ultimately exactlywhat we are.
We've got a huge food systemfailure.
So, realistically, upfs ultraprocessed foods are like the
core of everything.
Now, like you I was actuallythinking about the other day I
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went in a supermarket and Iwalked in like car's or Woolies
or Aldi, whatever you want tocall them, wherever you are,
like whatever you've got, andthis is wild wine Before I
actually walk in and we have onthe left, straight away, a
little section that's got likefruit You've got, like your
avocados, your oranges, yourapples and so on, some spinach,
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some leaves which, mind youquick interjection spinach
nutrition has gone down like 60%since the 1900s, so it's
virtually useless now.
But anyway, you've got all ofthat and then you've got your
meat section and that isprobably maybe a quarter, if
even, of the whole shop.
In fact, I'm going to say it'sless than that.
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It's realistically probably theequivalent of two aisles.
You get about 16 aisles.
So I'm going to say it's aboutan eighth, between an eighth and
a seventh of the total shop.
So everything else there ispretty much processed foods or
some kind of garbage or justhousehold items, and what we're
finding is UPFs are actuallycheaper per calorie we're nearly
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talking a 50% discount percalorie than healthy food.
So if you want to go in thereand get, say, some biscuits or
some salami or bacon or whateversome kind of form of
ultra-processed food, even ifyou go to the frozen oils and
you've got all your things whereyou can read about 150
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ingredients in it and it's meantto be just one little thing,
then that's what a UPF is andthey're clearly not good for you
.
Time, poverty, so people beingpart of the food system failure.
This is sorry is that peopledon't have as much time as
they've had before becausethey're spending it on a bunch
of other things and marketingfrom companies is getting more
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creative and better.
So you know you're gettingmarketed to buy the unhealthy
food and then convenience andcheap often wins nutrition dies.
So if it's convenient to go toHungry Jack's and get something
for $15, when if you went to theshopping center you have to go
for a drive and get all thisstuff and organic food or you
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know, one steak or something isgoing to cost you $10, $15.
Then is it easier to feed yourwhole family by getting a burger
box or something.
And that's a harsh reality thatwe live in at the moment.
Sometimes it's not justwillpower, it's wallet power and
healthy food does cost more andthat's by design.
The government's not reallyhelping us with that, which
we'll come into later.
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So it's kind of like a worldwideperspective, like a kind of
zoomed out this background oneverything that's going on
worldwide to add to that you'vegot.
In general, nutrition is on thedecline because a lot of the
places that are mass producingthings, like if you're a
vegetarian now, it's reallydifficult to get the vitamins
and minerals and nutrition thatyou need, because the soil is
getting turned so quickly thatthere's not enough nutrition in
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it.
Like what I said before withthe spinach the, the actual
nutritional value of that isless than half of what it was
about 100 years ago, because thesoil is just not in quality
anymore.
So when they'reproducing andthey're getting sprayed with all
these pesticides and all ofthat kind of thing, having
actual nutrition within is quitedifficult and it doesn't retain
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it as much, so ultimately itjust becomes like a water.
And then, if you zoom in onAustralia, so the physical
health collapse, like we've nowgot, two-thirds of our
population, as in the adultpopulation, are overweight or
obese, two-thirds, so one inthree.
You walk down the streetoverweight, overweight, normal
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Overweight, overweight, healthy,overweight, overweight.
Well, I can't really say normal, because normal is now
overweight, so it'd beoverweight, overweight, healthy,
healthy children.
Obesity is raising is now onein two well, not quite, but it's
projected to be one in twowithin the next couple of years.
That's guaranteed by 2050, theyreckon, but I think we'll get
there much sooner.
(09:55):
And the obesity cost if we getback to 2019, it cost about 39
billion and that's projected togo up to like $230 billion
nearly in the next 30 years.
So it's a rising cost.
And then in terms of muscleloss, it's about one in five of
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people over 65 have severemuscle loss.
So in terms of physical healththere, it's no good.
Like people are getting to thepoint now that they're just
overweight, that's all there isto it.
They're just not getting outand doing things anymore.
I think about it from aperspective of okay, what was I
(10:36):
doing when I grew up?
This is only recent too.
I'm not an old boy by any means.
If we go back, even just 15years, 20 years, I grew up on a
block of land that had abackyard.
There was a block of land nextto us originally, when we were
building, that was vacant so wecould play on that.
But we used to get the wholeneighborhood around.
We'd bloody get out there, kicka ball whether it be footy,
(10:58):
cricket, soccer or football forthe European listeners and we'd
just get out there.
We'd kick it.
Every weekend Of an afternoon,me and my three brothers and my
sister would get outside andkick the ball until mum and dad
would come and yell at us to getinside when the streetlights
went out.
So, like back in those days andI can only imagine for the older
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generation back in their day,the level of activity that was
being done, whereas I lookaround now now and what I see
specifically in children againis between the hours of 4 pm
when they get home from school,and 7 pm of when dinner's
getting cooked or parents aregetting home from work or
whatever it is.
They've got PlayStation,they've got Xbox, they've got
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Nintendo Switches, they've gottheir phones, they've got iPads,
they've got tablets, they'vegot all these little devices
that just take all of theirattention and their time.
And I think that comes down toparents as well needing to have
a bit of a stricter push withtheir children and maybe
introduce some kind of incentive, like you need to do X amount
of physical activity before youcan have it, or whatever it is.
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I'm not telling you how to be aparent, I'm just suggesting
ideas each to their own, butthat's been a huge shift and
even for people in their 20s,like you know, going to the gym
with mates or going and kickinga ball with mates and stuff it's
all in the decline.
I don't see it as often as Iused to and now it's just like
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huge difference and such asimple thing.
You know, three times a weekyou go go kick a ball with your
mates for an hour or two.
You know there's a thousand,two thousand calories, depending
what you're doing, and that's awhole day's worth of your, your
calorie intake, normallydepending on a whole bunch of
different factors.
But let's just call it betweenfor a male over over 18, between
1,500 and 2,500.
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And you know that's enough tohelp them burn the fat and keep
it off.
So activity makes a hugedifference, especially when you
combine that with the food, theultra-processed foods that are
hard to break down, and so on.
Mental health we all know wherethat's at.
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I've spoken about it before.
No-transcript.
38% of 16 to 24 have reportedthat in the past 12 months.
Suicide we're averaging up inthe 3,200s per year for suicides
and about 18 to 19 per 100,000in men committing suicide For
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women, it's about 6 per 100,000.
Committing suicide for womenit's about six per hundred
thousand.
We're spending nearly 700million on mental health
medication.
So, like adhd and anxiety andthat kind of thing, and adhd
specifically, the meds have beengoing up 10 year on year.
So it's growing and growing andgrowing.
That's a huge issue.
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I think that obviously there'score problems that could be
solved.
I don't think and this is goingto put it put me at risk of
getting called bigoted but Idon't actually think that half
the population need to be onmedication or experience actual
mental disorders.
I think it's over diagnosed ormisosed or mis-diagnosed, and I
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think that people have too muchtime on their hands to focus on
things that don't really matterand or you know, if they were
getting out and getting active,eating the right foods and so on
, they'd instantly feel 100times better.
So I'm not dismissing the factthat mental health does exist,
but I think it's overrepresentednationwide and even worldwide.
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Then you've got governmentBand-Aid budgeting.
The government is shocking,let's put that out there.
So on health between 22 and 23,the years they spent about $180
billion $180 billion.
And the trouble is they just doit on like Band-Aid, fixing
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issues that have already arisen,like prevention gets less than
2% of the budget.
Hospitals are getting like $80billion of it.
So you know, yes, we have tofund hospitals.
It's common sense.
Like you can have to fundhospitals.
It's common sense.
You can't not fund hospitals.
But if you're in a positionwhere you've got all these
people going to the hospital andyour healthcare system is
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purely spending on fixing issuesor Band-Aid fixing issues, or
covering up issues, or providingmedication to delay symptoms or
whatever it is providingmedication to delay symptoms or
whatever it is.
Imagine the impact if we justspent even half of that funding
on prevention and education,like if we yes, the government
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would go into a lot more debt orwe'd have to move funding
around from other departments,which is super easy to do, by
the way.
The amount of money ourgovernment wastes is ridiculous.
Like what was it?
$2.5 billion on a 30-yearcontract to Nauru, a country
that's got a population of12,000.
A country that's annual GDP is$160K US dollars, and we're
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paying $2.5 billion over 30years to send 354 criminals to
be housed there.
That $2.5 billion could go intohealth prevention.
There's a simple solution Like354 people Ridiculous, anyway,
that's not the topic for today.
If we found a way to invest inprevention, then in five years'
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time, 10 years' time, the costfor hospitals would go down
because there'd be less peoplerelying on them and there'd be
less PBS.
There'd be less governmentspending on actual subsidies and
that for prescriptions and justoverall healthcare in general,
because it would be prevented.
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So yeah, ultimately we'respending billions fixing bodies
after they break but almostnothing to keep them strong.
Like you go and service yourcar and you'll pay a good amount
of money to do that, but youwon't spend the same amount of
money to pay to service yourselflike a full-blown health
analysis.
You're talking like maybe 1200australian and that's like a
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full gene testing which you onlyhave to do once in your life
because your genes don't changeto understand what your body
actually requires and how youprocess things and that kind of
thing, because everyone isdifferent at the end of the day.
And then you know you get yourstool sample, you get your
parasitic tests, you get all ofyour hormone panels, you get
everything done, you figure outwhat works and what doesn't work
and you can basically just fromthat alone that one investment
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of, say, $1,200, you can then goahead and map out every single
change for your nutritionalneeds and save endless amounts
of money on long-term healthissues.
So why doesn't everyone do that?
Or why don't the government addthat into school curriculum or
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make that a mandatory thing thathas to get done at a certain
age?
That kind of expenditure couldgo on to prevent drastic issues
and then also actually I'llcircle back to it.
Yeah, I'll circle back to it.
Yeah, I'll circle backrealistically, like the deep
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causes.
I'm going through a few there.
But it's a ring system, likeprocessed food is cheaper, it's
addictive, it's marketedaggressively, it's so profitable
that they can just keep doingit and sming it and they can
afford to have the low pricesbecause it's not real food.
Like you know, if you've got afactory that's making up all
this fake crap and cooking ittogether with like 400 little
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ingredients, that cost younothing.
Like a cheeseburger at Macca'scosts like 20 cents to make or
something.
It's that easy.
Like making that, as opposed to, you know, running a farm and
having cows and getting food forthem and water for them and
taking care of them,vaccinations and so on, keeping
them healthy, and then the costof selling them, getting them to
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a shop and blah, blah, blah.
You can see how that would costmore than some little
manufactured UPF, more than somelittle manufactured UPF.
And the other thing is, withthe ring system they'd rather
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medicate you than teach you tocook or lift or whatever,
because prevention doesn't makethem a profit.
Treatment does, if they'reselling pharmaceuticals and
getting taxed from that orwhatever it is, then they're
making money on that, eventhough they're shooting
themselves in the foot becausedown the track it's going to
keep costing more and more andmore.
But it is what it is Time,poverty, economic pressure.
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So you've got high cost ofliving, no time for fresh food
for some people, no time formovement, no time for rest, and
this is crushing everyone, butin particular men, especially
fathers under pressure, who haveseen that happen and the
suicide rates and that kind ofthing go up.
But realistically, if you canfind a way to eliminate
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time-wasting, get the bodymoving, get some rest, get some
fresh food and cut out this crap.
Even if you get your fooddelivered, just get it delivered
.
Woolies, coles, they all havedelivery services, now DoorDash
you can literally get thehealthy food coming to your door
.
You can go on butchercrowdcom.
They're good, they do healthymeat and that kind of thing,
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hopefully like grass-fed orwild-caught.
There's a whole bunch ofhealthy alternatives out there.
You can do HelloFresh if youdon't have time.
But even if you can't cook, youcan do like what is it Muscle
Chef called Power Foods, e newfoods, that kind of thing,
although I wouldn't.
I'd only do that if you're in areally bad situation because I
think cooking is optimal, but ina terrible situation that's
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better than just relying on abag of Smith's chips You've then
got diagnosis inflation.
So autism rates are up 41% inthe last four years.
Do we think that, magically,41% of people have developed
autism just out of nowhere?
Or has the diagnosis of it justrandomly started going off
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because there's so manydifferent types of it now?
Depression, anxiety, adhd allof these things are getting
overdiagnosed now as well.
So the mental health labelshave been expanded in schools
and they have a wider kind ofnet.
So if you throw a net in theocean, you're going to catch
some fish.
The bigger the net, the morefish you catch.
Same thing with expanding thediagnosis and what fits into a
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category of a label.
And the trouble is, once peopleget these labels, they believe
it, they're stuck in it foreverand they start taking all these
meds, they spend more money onit and their mental health gets
crashed.
They go into zombie mode.
So, yeah, mental health issomething that schools are
focusing on big time now, butthey don't focus on environment,
family, food, screen time, anyof that anymore.
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It's not focused on it.
Even general physical healthisn't really focused on.
You've also then got likemasculinity and physicality,
which is extremely devalued.
Now it's just punished inschool.
So being sedentary andbasically not consuming enough
protein.
Men are literally gettingweaker, and so are women as well
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, but men are drasticallybecoming weaker because they're
not active, they're not eatingwhat they need to and they're
beaten down for being masculine.
So when that happens andphysical strength is
pathologized in schools and work, we're building fragility, and
a fragile nation ends up beingoverweight and fragile and
having issues, and it's assimple as that.
So if you had a generation ofmen with shrinking muscles and
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shrinking purpose and explodingantidepressant bills and
exploding house bills andexploding food bills and they're
looking at themselves in themirror and they're getting fat
they've got no muscle it's easyto see how antidepressants can
be the solution, but what aresolutions that could actually
help?
This is an interesting thing tothink about.
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This is an interesting thing tothink about.
As I said, schools could focuson obviously introducing some
kind of education system aboutactual nutrition and I'm not
talking about bloody, you knowcanteens with hot dog rolls
containing chicken tenders orsomething we all know that's not
nutritious.
They could educate on what arehealthy foods, why they're
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healthy and why foods aren'thealthy.
So things like salami and thatkind of thing, or just like
ultra-processed meats orultra-processed food in general.
Go through some of theingredients on there.
Take students through that inlike year 7 or 8 or 9 or 10, and
actually explain to them whatit all is and what impacts it
has, what health causes it has.
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Like you learn about smoking inschool but you don't learn
about literal other foods andingredients that can cause in
your life.
As well as that, they shouldalso introduce that the blood
work and genetic testing.
I think that is absolutelyessential to vital health.
I think that's just a no-brainerand as well as that, I think
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that if we go out of schools fora minute, they need to fix the
food chain Like subsidize wholefood.
At the moment we subsidize alot of things that we shouldn't,
always spend a lot of money onthings that we shouldn't.
If we could cut that budgetback, introduce Doge and
ultimately put a subsidy onwhole foods or organic foods and
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that kind of thing, make itcheaper for the public to buy
and then increase taxes onthings like UPFs, so
ultra-processed foods, increasetaxes on tobacco, increase taxes
on alcohol.
Yeah, sure, everyone's going toblow up.
Oh, a bloody beer costs $10.
Now, but guess what?
A beer's no good for you.
Like, would you rather pay $10for a beer, or $20 for a steak,
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or $10 for a steak or $20 for abeer?
Like, let's think about this.
And if tobacco and alcohol arekilling us, then why are we
going there?
As well as subsidizing wholefoods and taxing ultra-processed
foods and tobacco and alcoholand that kind of thing, things
like Smith's chips, potato chips, just the little things like
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that, even those little packetsof pasta that are just I don't
even know what they are anymore.
I don't eat them.
I saw them.
They're like $1.50, $2 in theshops and it's literally just a
thing of pasta with a sachet.
You put some milk in there andthe sachet, like that can't be
good for you.
That's common sense, right.
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So increase taxes on that andthen subsidize the healthy food.
So increase taxes on that andthen subsidize the healthy food.
Then people that can'tnecessarily afford to eat
healthy are going to start to beable to afford to eat healthy
and not afford to be able to eatunhealthy.
Tax all the fast food giantsKFC, macca's and so on.
They've got enough money thatthey can pay some more tax.
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And guess what?
If it's a little bit moreexpensive for people, then what
we do find is that the lowersocioeconomic you are, the more
likely you are to have takeout.
So if they increase the pricing, maybe that'll flip that script
.
We need to reframe fitness anddiscipline, masculinity, that
kind of thing activity asessential, like resistance
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training has to be, or just anyform of training.
Realistically, it has to becompulsory in schools, like
hands down compulsory, insteadof making English compulsory,
where you learn about watchingstupid movies and categorizing
what camera angles you'relooking at, or writing poems on
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the sun being yellow because ofthe reflection of sand or
whatever rubbish it is.
Make them do physical activity.
It's that simple.
Get them in the habit of it.
Fund more outdoor gyms.
We are doing that, which isgood.
They're becoming more and morecommon.
But if we increase thatdrastically, it'd be good and
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you could also charge a well,not charge?
You could create a gymmembership tax rebate.
So for anyone that goes to thegym and you would have to
actually physically be signed in, like it's automated, if you go
to the gym three times a weekor something, then you get a
rebate on your membership timesa week or something.
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Then you get a rebate on yourmembership.
You could also then look atdoing and this is going to stir
some interesting thoughts amongthe listeners but you could look
at introducing I won't saytaxing unhealthy people, I'll
say rebating healthy people.
So, let's say, you go intohospital for a surgery at 45
years old okay, and that surgeryis something that could have
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been prevented due to you know,your BMI is 45 or something, or
you're obese and you haven'tbeen active.
Or you know there's some kindof test that you put in place
where it's like okay, well, thatcosts 10 grand, this surgery
For people that are meeting acertain body fat percentage or
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BMI percentage, or they achievethe rebate on the gym membership
because they go to the gym, orsomething like that.
Then they get like a 10%subsidy from the government,
like that.
Then they get like a 10%subsidy from the government.
So you start subsidizing forthe healthy people, and the
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people that are choosing not todo it pay normal prices.
Sounds a bit terrible, sounds abit good.
Depends where you sit.
There is a way to make that work, though, and I think that then
people would be forced to kindof be healthier as well, because
if they want to save money andthey don't want to have to pay
too much for expensive things,then again, if you're
subsidizing the food and you'resubsidizing the healthcare and
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all of that for being healthy,then you're going to be healthy,
and if you don't, it's your ownfault and your own problem.
So it's a good way to do it.
Preventative healthcare needsto be more universal, more
screening, earlier blood testing, more ice green,
lifestyle-based therapies shouldbe put into pbs.
Everything should be preventionfocused like.
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Prevention should be the firstline of defense, not an
afterthought.
If you get prevention, then youcan prevent so many different
things and so many people fromgoing to hospital to a point
where you end up saving thefunding drastically.
So there's a whole bunch ofdifferent things to talk about.
There's a whole bunch of thingsI haven't really mentioned, but
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I just wanted to get on hereand get these out.
Ultimately, the body and themind aren't breaking.
Ultimately, the body and themind, they're not broken.
They are breaking, thoughthey're being broken by a system
that's designed for dependence.
Realistically, all we need todo is take a step back, look at
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it, think about, okay whatactually is right and wrong and
we can make the decisions toimprove the whole thing and flip
the script's.
That easy.
Before we go, I just want totake a moment as well to
acknowledge the the passing ofcharlie kirk today absolute
tragedy.
Regardless of what, what sideof the fence you sit on and that
kind of thing.
I don't think that in any way,shape or form you should be
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of view, and for for someone'schildren at one and three year
old daughters to be standingthere and watch that happen to
their, their father again,regardless of where you sit, I
think is an absolute tragedy.
Tragedy, as always.
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In a world where junk food is cheaper than
fruit and antidepressants aremore common than multivitamins,
being healthy in Australia, oreven the world in general, is
now something considered aluxury, not a given.
Obesity has completely flippedthe script.
There's more kids now that areobese than underweight worldwide
yes, worldwide.
And we don't have a healthcaresystem.
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when you break, not preventingthe break.
Today, we're going to bediscussing all things health.
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We're talking about health andwe're not just talking mental,
we're talking physical as well.
We're just talking health fullstop.
So basically let's just take azoomed out approach.
First of all, obesity isactually a pandemic worldwide
now, not just in America.
It's affecting Australia, it'saffecting America itself, it's
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affecting pretty much everywherein the world.
We live in a world where it'smore common to be obese than
underweight.
Now it's more common to beeither one of the two than
healthy.
Nearly.
It depends on what country, butover 890 million adults this is
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back in 2022, were obese, soit's over a billion now.
By 2050, it's projected thatabout 3.8 billion worldwide will
be overweight or obese.
We have 188 million obesechildren, which is outnumbering
the amount of underweightchildren.
So we've got too much food, butwe'll get to that soon and it's
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costing about $4 trillion ayear in the next 10 years.
It's going to be a fair chunkof GDP.
We're talking like 3% to 5%.
So more children now worldwideare obese and starving and we
call it progress.
I remember when I was growing up, I was watching.
You'd get a lot of ads on TVand you're trying to get food to
places because there'smalnourished children all around
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the world and stuff.
Well, now it's the opposite.
So there's malnourishedchildren all around the world
and stuff.
Well, now it's the opposite.
So there's a problem Mentalhealth worldwide shocking.
So over a billion people livewith mental illness globally,
like depression or anxiety andso on.
It costs about $16 trillion inthe economy and by 2030, that's
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expected to increase prettydrastically.
Global antidepressants, adhdprescriptions, so on have
actually skyrocketed, while theroot causes of such haven't
actually been dealt with, likethey're ignored.
This is why in the trailer youwould have heard I called it.
We don't have a healthcaresystem.
We have basically a system thathelps you once you are broken.
We should have a preventionsystem.
So basically, if you're sad,what we do is we medicate you
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and go hey, this will help youwith your sadness instead of
going oh, why are you sad.
And fixing that.
Suicide and emotional decline isever growing.
So the men's suicide rate, wealready know, is globally three
to four times higher than women.
But women's suicide is actuallyon the increase as well as men.
So they're both going up.
In fact, women have gone upquicker than men in recent times
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, but men still dominate bybasically a four times
multiplier.
So we are suffering prettydrastically the stigma around
around it.
And then you get people undertreatment and like as in,
undertreated, they don't havepeople to talk to or they don't
know what to do, they don't knowthat they should hit the gym
and so on, and then theyultimately they just go into
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social isolation because of lackof confidence or anxious
feeling and so on.
Cardiovascular disease, muscleloss like cardiovascular
diseases kill like 20 millionbecause of lack of confidence or
anxious feeling and so on.
Cardiovascular disease, muscleloss, like cardiovascular
diseases, kill like 20 millionpeople each year, which is a
huge number it's like not quite,but it's basically the
Australian population minus afew million, and that's actually
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the leading cause of deathworldwide.
And then you've got muscle loss, like muscles deteriorating
rapidly around the world,especially in people from 40 and
over.
And if you start losing muscleby the time you're 30 and it
goes down and down and down, youhit 80, half of it's gone and
then fragility skyrockets.
You've got hips and stuffgetting put out of place,
dislocated, or your grandparentsor your parents, if you're in
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the older generation, becomereal fragile and they just
basically fall apart like an oldmachine that hasn't been
serviced.
And that's ultimately exactlywhat we are.
We've got a huge food systemfailure.
So, realistically, upfs ultraprocessed foods are like the
core of everything.
Now, like you I was actuallythinking about the other day I
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went in a supermarket and Iwalked in like car's or Woolies
or Aldi, whatever you want tocall them, wherever you are,
like whatever you've got, andthis is wild wine Before I
actually walk in and we have onthe left, straight away, a
little section that's got likefruit You've got, like your
avocados, your oranges, yourapples and so on, some spinach,
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some leaves which, mind youquick interjection spinach
nutrition has gone down like 60%since the 1900s, so it's
virtually useless now.
But anyway, you've got all ofthat and then you've got your
meat section and that isprobably maybe a quarter, if
even, of the whole shop.
In fact, I'm going to say it'sless than that.
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It's realistically probably theequivalent of two aisles.
You get about 16 aisles.
So I'm going to say it's aboutan eighth, between an eighth and
a seventh of the total shop.
So everything else there ispretty much processed foods or
some kind of garbage or justhousehold items, and what we're
finding is UPFs are actuallycheaper per calorie we're nearly
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talking a 50% discount percalorie than healthy food.
So if you want to go in thereand get, say, some biscuits or
some salami or bacon or whateversome kind of form of
ultra-processed food, even ifyou go to the frozen oils and
you've got all your things whereyou can read about 150
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ingredients in it and it's meantto be just one little thing,
then that's what a UPF is andthey're clearly not good for you
.
Time, poverty, so people beingpart of the food system failure.
This is sorry is that peopledon't have as much time as
they've had before becausethey're spending it on a bunch
of other things and marketingfrom companies is getting more
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creative and better.
So you know you're gettingmarketed to buy the unhealthy
food and then convenience andcheap often wins nutrition dies.
So if it's convenient to go toHungry Jack's and get something
for $15, when if you went to theshopping center you have to go
for a drive and get all thisstuff and organic food or you
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know, one steak or something isgoing to cost you $10, $15.
Then is it easier to feed yourwhole family by getting a burger
box or something.
And that's a harsh reality thatwe live in at the moment.
Sometimes it's not justwillpower, it's wallet power and
healthy food does cost more andthat's by design.
The government's not reallyhelping us with that, which
we'll come into later.
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So it's kind of like a worldwideperspective, like a kind of
zoomed out this background oneverything that's going on
worldwide to add to that you'vegot.
In general, nutrition is on thedecline because a lot of the
places that are mass producingthings, like if you're a
vegetarian now, it's reallydifficult to get the vitamins
and minerals and nutrition thatyou need, because the soil is
getting turned so quickly thatthere's not enough nutrition in
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it.
Like what I said before withthe spinach the, the actual
nutritional value of that isless than half of what it was
about 100 years ago, because thesoil is just not in quality
anymore.
So when they'reproducing andthey're getting sprayed with all
these pesticides and all ofthat kind of thing, having
actual nutrition within is quitedifficult and it doesn't retain
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it as much, so ultimately itjust becomes like a water.
And then, if you zoom in onAustralia, so the physical
health collapse, like we've nowgot, two-thirds of our
population, as in the adultpopulation, are overweight or
obese, two-thirds, so one inthree.
You walk down the streetoverweight, overweight, normal
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Overweight, overweight, healthy,overweight, overweight.
Well, I can't really say normal, because normal is now
overweight, so it'd beoverweight, overweight, healthy,
healthy children.
Obesity is raising is now onein two well, not quite, but it's
projected to be one in twowithin the next couple of years.
That's guaranteed by 2050, theyreckon, but I think we'll get
there much sooner.
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And the obesity cost if we getback to 2019, it cost about 39
billion and that's projected togo up to like $230 billion
nearly in the next 30 years.
So it's a rising cost.
And then in terms of muscleloss, it's about one in five of
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people over 65 have severemuscle loss.
So in terms of physical healththere, it's no good.
Like people are getting to thepoint now that they're just
overweight, that's all there isto it.
They're just not getting outand doing things anymore.
I think about it from aperspective of okay, what was I
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doing when I grew up?
This is only recent too.
I'm not an old boy by any means.
If we go back, even just 15years, 20 years, I grew up on a
block of land that had abackyard.
There was a block of land nextto us originally, when we were
building, that was vacant so wecould play on that.
But we used to get the wholeneighborhood around.
We'd bloody get out there, kicka ball whether it be footy,
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cricket, soccer or football forthe European listeners and we'd
just get out there.
We'd kick it.
Every weekend Of an afternoon,me and my three brothers and my
sister would get outside andkick the ball until mum and dad
would come and yell at us to getinside when the streetlights
went out.
So, like back in those days andI can only imagine for the older
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generation back in their day,the level of activity that was
being done, whereas I lookaround now now and what I see
specifically in children againis between the hours of 4 pm
when they get home from school,and 7 pm of when dinner's
getting cooked or parents aregetting home from work or
whatever it is.
They've got PlayStation,they've got Xbox, they've got
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Nintendo Switches, they've gottheir phones, they've got iPads,
they've got tablets, they'vegot all these little devices
that just take all of theirattention and their time.
And I think that comes down toparents as well needing to have
a bit of a stricter push withtheir children and maybe
introduce some kind of incentive, like you need to do X amount
of physical activity before youcan have it, or whatever it is.
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I'm not telling you how to be aparent, I'm just suggesting
ideas each to their own, butthat's been a huge shift and
even for people in their 20s,like you know, going to the gym
with mates or going and kickinga ball with mates and stuff it's
all in the decline.
I don't see it as often as Iused to and now it's just like
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huge difference and such asimple thing.
You know, three times a weekyou go go kick a ball with your
mates for an hour or two.
You know there's a thousand,two thousand calories, depending
what you're doing, and that's awhole day's worth of your, your
calorie intake, normallydepending on a whole bunch of
different factors.
But let's just call it betweenfor a male over over 18, between
1,500 and 2,500.
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And you know that's enough tohelp them burn the fat and keep
it off.
So activity makes a hugedifference, especially when you
combine that with the food, theultra-processed foods that are
hard to break down, and so on.
Mental health we all know wherethat's at.
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I've spoken about it before.
No-transcript.
38% of 16 to 24 have reportedthat in the past 12 months.
Suicide we're averaging up inthe 3,200s per year for suicides
and about 18 to 19 per 100,000in men committing suicide For
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women, it's about 6 per 100,000.
Committing suicide for womenit's about six per hundred
thousand.
We're spending nearly 700million on mental health
medication.
So, like adhd and anxiety andthat kind of thing, and adhd
specifically, the meds have beengoing up 10 year on year.
So it's growing and growing andgrowing.
That's a huge issue.
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I think that obviously there'score problems that could be
solved.
I don't think and this is goingto put it put me at risk of
getting called bigoted but Idon't actually think that half
the population need to be onmedication or experience actual
mental disorders.
I think it's over diagnosed ormisosed or mis-diagnosed, and I
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think that people have too muchtime on their hands to focus on
things that don't really matterand or you know, if they were
getting out and getting active,eating the right foods and so on
, they'd instantly feel 100times better.
So I'm not dismissing the factthat mental health does exist,
but I think it's overrepresentednationwide and even worldwide.
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Then you've got governmentBand-Aid budgeting.
The government is shocking,let's put that out there.
So on health between 22 and 23,the years they spent about $180
billion $180 billion.
And the trouble is they just doit on like Band-Aid, fixing
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issues that have already arisen,like prevention gets less than
2% of the budget.
Hospitals are getting like $80billion of it.
So you know, yes, we have tofund hospitals.
It's common sense.
Like you can have to fundhospitals.
It's common sense.
You can't not fund hospitals.
But if you're in a positionwhere you've got all these
people going to the hospital andyour healthcare system is
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purely spending on fixing issuesor Band-Aid fixing issues, or
covering up issues, or providingmedication to delay symptoms or
whatever it is providingmedication to delay symptoms or
whatever it is.
Imagine the impact if we justspent even half of that funding
on prevention and education,like if we yes, the government
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would go into a lot more debt orwe'd have to move funding
around from other departments,which is super easy to do, by
the way.
The amount of money ourgovernment wastes is ridiculous.
Like what was it?
$2.5 billion on a 30-yearcontract to Nauru, a country
that's got a population of12,000.
A country that's annual GDP is$160K US dollars, and we're
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paying $2.5 billion over 30years to send 354 criminals to
be housed there.
That $2.5 billion could go intohealth prevention.
There's a simple solution Like354 people Ridiculous, anyway,
that's not the topic for today.
If we found a way to invest inprevention, then in five years'
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time, 10 years' time, the costfor hospitals would go down
because there'd be less peoplerelying on them and there'd be
less PBS.
There'd be less governmentspending on actual subsidies and
that for prescriptions and justoverall healthcare in general,
because it would be prevented.
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So yeah, ultimately we'respending billions fixing bodies
after they break but almostnothing to keep them strong.
Like you go and service yourcar and you'll pay a good amount
of money to do that, but youwon't spend the same amount of
money to pay to service yourselflike a full-blown health
analysis.
You're talking like maybe 1200australian and that's like a
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full gene testing which you onlyhave to do once in your life
because your genes don't changeto understand what your body
actually requires and how youprocess things and that kind of
thing, because everyone isdifferent at the end of the day.
And then you know you get yourstool sample, you get your
parasitic tests, you get all ofyour hormone panels, you get
everything done, you figure outwhat works and what doesn't work
and you can basically just fromthat alone that one investment
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of, say, $1,200, you can then goahead and map out every single
change for your nutritionalneeds and save endless amounts
of money on long-term healthissues.
So why doesn't everyone do that?
Or why don't the government addthat into school curriculum or
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make that a mandatory thing thathas to get done at a certain
age?
That kind of expenditure couldgo on to prevent drastic issues
and then also actually I'llcircle back to it.
Yeah, I'll circle back to it.
Yeah, I'll circle backrealistically, like the deep
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causes.
I'm going through a few there.
But it's a ring system, likeprocessed food is cheaper, it's
addictive, it's marketedaggressively, it's so profitable
that they can just keep doingit and sming it and they can
afford to have the low pricesbecause it's not real food.
Like you know, if you've got afactory that's making up all
this fake crap and cooking ittogether with like 400 little
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ingredients, that cost younothing.
Like a cheeseburger at Macca'scosts like 20 cents to make or
something.
It's that easy.
Like making that, as opposed to, you know, running a farm and
having cows and getting food forthem and water for them and
taking care of them,vaccinations and so on, keeping
them healthy, and then the costof selling them, getting them to
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a shop and blah, blah, blah.
You can see how that would costmore than some little
manufactured UPF, more than somelittle manufactured UPF.
And the other thing is, withthe ring system they'd rather
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medicate you than teach you tocook or lift or whatever,
because prevention doesn't makethem a profit.
Treatment does, if they'reselling pharmaceuticals and
getting taxed from that orwhatever it is, then they're
making money on that, eventhough they're shooting
themselves in the foot becausedown the track it's going to
keep costing more and more andmore.
But it is what it is Time,poverty, economic pressure.
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So you've got high cost ofliving, no time for fresh food
for some people, no time formovement, no time for rest, and
this is crushing everyone, butin particular men, especially
fathers under pressure, who haveseen that happen and the
suicide rates and that kind ofthing go up.
But realistically, if you canfind a way to eliminate
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time-wasting, get the bodymoving, get some rest, get some
fresh food and cut out this crap.
Even if you get your fooddelivered, just get it delivered
.
Woolies, coles, they all havedelivery services, now DoorDash
you can literally get thehealthy food coming to your door
.
You can go on butchercrowdcom.
They're good, they do healthymeat and that kind of thing,
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hopefully like grass-fed orwild-caught.
There's a whole bunch ofhealthy alternatives out there.
You can do HelloFresh if youdon't have time.
But even if you can't cook, youcan do like what is it Muscle
Chef called Power Foods, e newfoods, that kind of thing,
although I wouldn't.
I'd only do that if you're in areally bad situation because I
think cooking is optimal, but ina terrible situation that's
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better than just relying on abag of Smith's chips You've then
got diagnosis inflation.
So autism rates are up 41% inthe last four years.
Do we think that, magically,41% of people have developed
autism just out of nowhere?
Or has the diagnosis of it justrandomly started going off
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because there's so manydifferent types of it now?
Depression, anxiety, adhd allof these things are getting
overdiagnosed now as well.
So the mental health labelshave been expanded in schools
and they have a wider kind ofnet.
So if you throw a net in theocean, you're going to catch
some fish.
The bigger the net, the morefish you catch.
Same thing with expanding thediagnosis and what fits into a
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category of a label.
And the trouble is, once peopleget these labels, they believe
it, they're stuck in it foreverand they start taking all these
meds, they spend more money onit and their mental health gets
crashed.
They go into zombie mode.
So, yeah, mental health issomething that schools are
focusing on big time now, butthey don't focus on environment,
family, food, screen time, anyof that anymore.
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It's not focused on it.
Even general physical healthisn't really focused on.
You've also then got likemasculinity and physicality,
which is extremely devalued.
Now it's just punished inschool.
So being sedentary andbasically not consuming enough
protein.
Men are literally gettingweaker, and so are women as well
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, but men are drasticallybecoming weaker because they're
not active, they're not eatingwhat they need to and they're
beaten down for being masculine.
So when that happens andphysical strength is
pathologized in schools and work, we're building fragility, and
a fragile nation ends up beingoverweight and fragile and
having issues, and it's assimple as that.
So if you had a generation ofmen with shrinking muscles and
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shrinking purpose and explodingantidepressant bills and
exploding house bills andexploding food bills and they're
looking at themselves in themirror and they're getting fat
they've got no muscle it's easyto see how antidepressants can
be the solution, but what aresolutions that could actually
help?
This is an interesting thing tothink about.
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This is an interesting thing tothink about.
As I said, schools could focuson obviously introducing some
kind of education system aboutactual nutrition and I'm not
talking about bloody, you knowcanteens with hot dog rolls
containing chicken tenders orsomething we all know that's not
nutritious.
They could educate on what arehealthy foods, why they're
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healthy and why foods aren'thealthy.
So things like salami and thatkind of thing, or just like
ultra-processed meats orultra-processed food in general.
Go through some of theingredients on there.
Take students through that inlike year 7 or 8 or 9 or 10, and
actually explain to them whatit all is and what impacts it
has, what health causes it has.
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Like you learn about smoking inschool but you don't learn
about literal other foods andingredients that can cause in
your life.
As well as that, they shouldalso introduce that the blood
work and genetic testing.
I think that is absolutelyessential to vital health.
I think that's just a no-brainerand as well as that, I think
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that if we go out of schools fora minute, they need to fix the
food chain Like subsidize wholefood.
At the moment we subsidize alot of things that we shouldn't,
always spend a lot of money onthings that we shouldn't.
If we could cut that budgetback, introduce Doge and
ultimately put a subsidy onwhole foods or organic foods and
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that kind of thing, make itcheaper for the public to buy
and then increase taxes onthings like UPFs, so
ultra-processed foods, increasetaxes on tobacco, increase taxes
on alcohol.
Yeah, sure, everyone's going toblow up.
Oh, a bloody beer costs $10.
Now, but guess what?
A beer's no good for you.
Like, would you rather pay $10for a beer, or $20 for a steak,
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or $10 for a steak or $20 for abeer?
Like, let's think about this.
And if tobacco and alcohol arekilling us, then why are we
going there?
As well as subsidizing wholefoods and taxing ultra-processed
foods and tobacco and alcoholand that kind of thing, things
like Smith's chips, potato chips, just the little things like
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that, even those little packetsof pasta that are just I don't
even know what they are anymore.
I don't eat them.
I saw them.
They're like $1.50, $2 in theshops and it's literally just a
thing of pasta with a sachet.
You put some milk in there andthe sachet, like that can't be
good for you.
That's common sense, right.
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So increase taxes on that andthen subsidize the healthy food.
So increase taxes on that andthen subsidize the healthy food.
Then people that can'tnecessarily afford to eat
healthy are going to start to beable to afford to eat healthy
and not afford to be able to eatunhealthy.
Tax all the fast food giantsKFC, macca's and so on.
They've got enough money thatthey can pay some more tax.
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And guess what?
If it's a little bit moreexpensive for people, then what
we do find is that the lowersocioeconomic you are, the more
likely you are to have takeout.
So if they increase the pricing, maybe that'll flip that script
.
We need to reframe fitness anddiscipline, masculinity, that
kind of thing activity asessential, like resistance
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training has to be, or just anyform of training.
Realistically, it has to becompulsory in schools, like
hands down compulsory, insteadof making English compulsory,
where you learn about watchingstupid movies and categorizing
what camera angles you'relooking at, or writing poems on
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the sun being yellow because ofthe reflection of sand or
whatever rubbish it is.
Make them do physical activity.
It's that simple.
Get them in the habit of it.
Fund more outdoor gyms.
We are doing that, which isgood.
They're becoming more and morecommon.
But if we increase thatdrastically, it'd be good and
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you could also charge a well,not charge?
You could create a gymmembership tax rebate.
So for anyone that goes to thegym and you would have to
actually physically be signed in, like it's automated, if you go
to the gym three times a weekor something, then you get a
rebate on your membership timesa week or something.
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Then you get a rebate on yourmembership.
You could also then look atdoing and this is going to stir
some interesting thoughts amongthe listeners but you could look
at introducing I won't saytaxing unhealthy people, I'll
say rebating healthy people.
So, let's say, you go intohospital for a surgery at 45
years old okay, and that surgeryis something that could have
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been prevented due to you know,your BMI is 45 or something, or
you're obese and you haven'tbeen active.
Or you know there's some kindof test that you put in place
where it's like okay, well, thatcosts 10 grand, this surgery
For people that are meeting acertain body fat percentage or
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BMI percentage, or they achievethe rebate on the gym membership
because they go to the gym, orsomething like that.
Then they get like a 10%subsidy from the government,
like that.
Then they get like a 10%subsidy from the government.
So you start subsidizing forthe healthy people, and the
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people that are choosing not todo it pay normal prices.
Sounds a bit terrible, sounds abit good.
Depends where you sit.
There is a way to make that work, though, and I think that then
people would be forced to kindof be healthier as well, because
if they want to save money andthey don't want to have to pay
too much for expensive things,then again, if you're
subsidizing the food and you'resubsidizing the healthcare and
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all of that for being healthy,then you're going to be healthy,
and if you don't, it's your ownfault and your own problem.
So it's a good way to do it.
Preventative healthcare needsto be more universal, more
screening, earlier blood testing, more ice green,
lifestyle-based therapies shouldbe put into pbs.
Everything should be preventionfocused like.
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Prevention should be the firstline of defense, not an
afterthought.
If you get prevention, then youcan prevent so many different
things and so many people fromgoing to hospital to a point
where you end up saving thefunding drastically.
So there's a whole bunch ofdifferent things to talk about.
There's a whole bunch of thingsI haven't really mentioned, but
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I just wanted to get on hereand get these out.
Ultimately, the body and themind aren't breaking.
Ultimately, the body and themind, they're not broken.
They are breaking, thoughthey're being broken by a system
that's designed for dependence.
Realistically, all we need todo is take a step back, look at
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it, think about, okay whatactually is right and wrong and
we can make the decisions toimprove the whole thing and flip
the script's.
That easy.
Before we go, I just want totake a moment as well to
acknowledge the the passing ofcharlie kirk today absolute
tragedy.
Regardless of what, what sideof the fence you sit on and that
kind of thing.
I don't think that in any way,shape or form you should be
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resolving to violence to solvesome kind of conflict on a point
of view, and for for someone'schildren at one and three year
old daughters to be standingthere and watch that happen to
their, their father again,regardless of where you sit, I
think is an absolute tragedy.
Tragedy, as always.
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