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July 12, 2023 41 mins

For the next two episodes of The Fire Up Stairs Podcast, we'll be zooming out to discuss how the themes surrounding the events of the arson at the Up Stairs Lounge are still very much relevant today.

On this episode, host Joey Hardy Gray is joined by international drag superstar BenDeLaCreme to discuss the importance of queer spaces. The two chat about the recent drag bans popping across the country, the importance of fostering community, how queer people pass culture down through generations, and why drag is its own form of rebellion.

To stay up-to-date on BenDeLaCreme, you can visit her website or follow her on Instagram and Twitter

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