The Firefighters Podcast

Today on the Firefighters Podcast, I sit down with Phil Garrigan, Chair of the National Fire Chiefs Council, to discuss the future of the UK fire and rescue service. With 34 years in the job, Phil shares why this is not about titles but about preparing our service for tougher challenges – from climate change and wildfires to aging infrastructure and shifting public expectations – all while we are asked to do more with less.

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On 14 June 2017, the Grenfell Tower fire in West London claimed 72 lives and exposed critical failures in building safety and fire preparedness. Over 250 firefighters faced unimaginable conditions as the fire spread rapidly due to combustible cladding, turning Grenfell into a turning point for our sector.

Today’s guest is Steve McGuirk, former fire chief, expert witness to the Grenfell Inquiry, and Executive Officer of the Fire Sect...

Frank Leeb is the managing director of the First Responder Center for Excellence (FRCE). He previously served as a Deputy Assistant Chief in the Fire Department of New York. Retiring in June 2024 with more than 31 years. During his tenure with the FDNY, he held several senior staff positions, including the Chief of the Fire Academy, Chief of Training, and Chief of Safety. Frank has also been a East Farmingdale Fire Department membe...

Today’s we explore what it means to live with strength, service, and purpose. with a man who represents all of that and then some.

Frank Boniello is not just a firefighter. He’s not just a U.S. Air Force member. And he’s not just strong. He is officially the World’s Strongest Firefighter 2025.

Today we share the story behind the podium. Behind the gold-plated fire axe. Behind the lifting platform, the stone carries, the axle presses,...

In this episode, I sit down with Sal Naseem. A powerful voice on racism, resilience, and truth. From growing up as a Scottish Pakistani Muslim in Kilmarnock to challenging injustice at the highest levels of UK institutions, Sal’s story is raw and remarkable. His early life was marked by violence, survival, and a front-row seat to systemic failures from machete attacks at his family’s shop to witnessing police corruption first-hand....

In this solo episode I explore a quiet but powerful undercurrent in the UK Fire and Rescue Service: low agency and learned helplessness. Speaking not from a podium but shoulder to shoulder with every member of the service - we confront the cultural forces that stifle voice, innovation, and change. Why do so many of us feel stuck, unheard, or disconnected from the power to make a difference? 

We unpack the psychology behind this, cha...

In this first episode from our trip to the Netherlands, I had the privilege of joining leading fire service professionals at the Nederlands Instituut Publieke Veiligheid (NIPV) to explore the latest in smoke cooling experiments. Building on the foundation of the “Smoke Cooling and Nozzle Techniques” report, this phase of research brought together international experts to challenge long-held assumptions, test techniques under contro...

Phill Matthews is a former wholetime firefighter turned online coach, specializing in helping serving and aspiring firefighters enhance their fitness and performance. Through his platform, Fighting Fire Fit, he has assisted hundreds in achieving their health and career goals. After finishing active duty, Phill is now channelling his experience and passion fulltime into coaching serving and aspiring firefighters helping them meet th...

Today were talking hazardous materials, detection technology, and how it’s reshaping our work in the fire and rescue services.

Joining me is Dr. Mark L. Norman, a Senior Field Applications Scientist at 908 Devices and a leading subject matter expert in optical detection technologies. With over 20 years of experience in hazmat detection systems for emergency response, Mark brings both scientific expertise and real-world insight. He h...

In this powerful episode, we revisit the tragic events of July 13, 2013, when Firefighter Stephen Hunt of Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue Service lost his life at the Paul’s Hair and Beauty World fire in Manchester. Drawing on published investigation reports, inquest findings, and conversations with those who attended the incident, we piece together a detailed timeline of events and examine the operational decisions, safety meas...

Final episode in our PGI Particulate Protection & Decontamination Seminar Series. So far, we've heard powerful stories from families, survivors, and advocates within the firefighting community. Today, we shift focus to innovation and action.

Joining me is Jo Taylor MBE, founder of De-Wipe—a company dedicated to developing scientifically backed decontamination solutions that help reduce the risk of occupational cancer among ...

Welcome back to the Decontamination Seminar Series. Today, we continue that journey with two remarkable voices from within the firefighting community—Robbie Burns and Michelle O'Toole. Both are cancer survivors. Both are advocates. And both have first-hand insight into the physical and mental toll of battling cancer as part of the firefighting community.

This episode is a raw, honest, and deeply human conversation about resilie...

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Dan Dworkis — emergency physician, Chief Medical Officer at the Mission Critical Team Institute, and founder of The Emergency Mind Project — for a powerful conversation on how mission-critical teams like firefighters and first responders can perform under pressure, recover effectively, and grow with intention. We dive into why emergencies often go wrong, the mental residue of high-stress calls,...

Honouring Martin Green: A Family's Story - Welcome to this special episode in our six-part mini-series on firefighter cancer, protection, and decontamination — brought to you with the support of PGI, leaders in high-performance protective gear for those who serve on the front line.

Today’s conversation is one that hits straight to the heart. We’re honoured to share the story of Martin Green — a firefighter with over 30 years of...

My guest to day is John Lord, John is a Training specialist in Incident Management and a global leader in bringing attention and driving change in the fight against firefighter cancer.

this is part of of a powerful six-part mini-series dedicated to one of the most critical issues facing our profession: firefighter cancer, protection, and decontamination.

In this series, recorded around the Particulate, Protection & Deco...

welcome to a very special episode, the launch of a powerful six-part mini-series dedicated to one of the most critical issues facing our profession: firefighter cancer, protection, and decontamination.

In this series, recorded around the Particulate, Protection & Decontamination Seminar held at Biggin Hill on March 27th, 2025, we dive headfirst into the hard truths and urgent conversations we need to be having — not to...

Today I’m joined by Stuart Jackson — founder of ICE and a true force when it comes to human-centred leadership and cultural transformation. Stuart’s spent decades helping people, teams, and organisations unlock their potential, working across everything from the NHS to UK fire and rescue services. In this episode, we dive into what leadership really looks like in today’s world — the messy, emotional, deeply human kind. We talk abou...

This incident debrief covers the tragic fatalities of Firefighter Wornham and Firefighter Miller who lost their lives at 85 Harrow Court, Silam Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire on 2nd February 2005.

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When Ben Selby joined me on The Firefighters Podcast, we had a wide-ranging and powerful conversation about the vital role of the Fire Brigades Union (FBU) and the evolving challenges faced by fire and rescue services in the UK. As the FBU’s Assistant General Secretary, Ben offered deep insight into issues like firefighter pay, recruitment, and the shifting demands of the job. We explored the importance of the Grey Book, the direct...