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Speaker 1 (00:00):
B-Rob Food for
Thought Podcast.
I just want to let you guysknow I got my man, sean Dugan,
on the line and he is afirefighter.
Oh, he is, or was?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
No, I still am.
I'm still a firefighter.
I got promoted, actually, in,let's just say, a big-name city.
This way, I don't representanything as far as getting in
trouble with work.
Oh, you did, absolutely,absolutely, yeah, just keep it
like that, right.
Um, and you know, we linked up,I think, through facebook and
(00:33):
through posts and stuff likethat, as far as like uh, you
know, trying to, you know, yousought out like-minded people,
almost like because you, at thetime for me, I was questioning
my own sanity, like am I theonly one seeing this Right?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
No, I'm the same way.
I call it the truth movement,you know, or or the great
awakening, because it's, youknow, it really is biblical.
I mean, it really is.
So tell me your story, brother.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So my dad, like I
just was telling you, my dad has
been an original conspiracydude, for I can tell you this I
think it was like 96 Women'sWorld Cup.
And we're down to shore, I'm 13.
And my dad's talking about asJapan comes out, and they're
wearing pink and black.
And he's like, why is Japanwearing pink and black?
(01:22):
And I'm a kid, I'm like, well,who do you care?
Who cares?
And he said it's not theircolors, it's not the colors of
their flag.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Right, right right.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They're white and red
and this is New World Order
stuff.
As far as getting rid of yourflags, the colors of your flags,
getting rid of your history,taking down your statues, all
that kind of shit, I'm like, oh,sound familiar, you know, like
now, but at the time I was a13-year-old kid, I didn't know,
so my dad has always been thatdude and you know.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I became that dude
within the last five years.
Well, he put that seed in you,bro.
I mean you got that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
The seed was
definitely there, but I always
knew in like dude, it was prettyeasy for me to disconnect from
a party or a team because I wasreally never a part of it.
I always knew it was nonsense.
I'm not a Democrat, I'm not aRepublican, I'm pretty much a
leave me alone guy.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I didn't understand
enough and, sadly, when you do
that, just because you don't payattention doesn't mean that it
doesn't affect you, and I didn'trealize how much it affected
our, our lives until you knowagain up into 2020, where they
shut everything down I get it,man, when and when I was in,
like when I graduated highschool, and everybody went into
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sororities and fraternities andeverything, man, I didn't even
really, I didn't even likecollege, I didn't want to be a
part of any of that stuff.
I still had friends in thoseplaces but it just didn't seem.
It was weird to me.
It was almost.
I used to call it rent-a-friendand I don't.
I never understood any of that.
(03:01):
That Roman, that that wholething, like something inside me
said no, no, no, no, no, youjust go off on your own and do
your own thing, b-rob, and youknow what I'm saying.
I just never was a part of thatand I never let my kids be a
part of that as well how old areyour kids?
(03:22):
uh, my son is um.
He's the middle one, he's 24.
My daughter turned, my youngestturns 21 in June and my oldest
is 27.
She lives up in Michigan withher boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And you're down in
Georgia, correct?
Yeah, yeah, I'm a Georgia boy.
Yeah, see, I got a.
Yeah, I'm from, I'm a Georgiaboy.
Yeah, yeah, see, I got a.
I got a six year old littlegirl and a three year old little
boy.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Awesome, awesome how
old are you?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm 41.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You still young.
You still young.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in
the thick of it, though, with
the young bucks, and parentingis one of the hardest things
I've ever done and one of theraddest, and the rad far
outweighs the hard.
Yep, absolutely, and it's cool,it's a blessing.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yep, it is very much.
I did it at a young age.
We were kids having kids.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's it
.
See, my thing was, when you'retalking about colleges, I didn't
question anything then, becausedrinking and drugging, I mean,
it was just that that colleges,I didn't question anything then
because drinking and druggingRight, I mean, it was just that,
that was the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I didn't care about
all that other shit.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't like I had anygoals in mind.
It was kind of I went therebecause I wanted to play a sport
and that's where they told usto go and that's where I ended
up and that's when I graduatedwith a liberal arts degree, and
I don't even know what that is Iknow my wife has one and she's
regretted too.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Um what sport did you
play?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was a soccer kid,
played soccer it's a, you know,
played everything, but that'sthe thing I took seriously,
loved it.
Um, yeah, I did pretty well inhigh school and then, like you
know, even before my firsttraining camp, where I went to
Cabrini University CabriniCollege at the time, which is
now shut down in Bradner, pa,it's you know I was 20 pounds
(05:15):
heavier, with a broken hand.
You know what I mean Showing upto training camp and drinking,
doing all that kind of stuff.
And you know my journey also isthat I've been sober now, um,
you know, 13 and a half years.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Awesome, that is
awesome bro.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, yeah, it was
just you know and uh.
So how did?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
you?
What were you like?
How much were you drinking whenyou decided to stop?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So I grew up in
Philly.
I'm a Philly kid, and it was,you know, percocet, oxycontin
epidemic, drinking a lot andmixing it with that.
You don't question what you'redoing as abnormal when 90% of
the dudes you're running aroundwith are doing the same thing.
(06:00):
I get it.
Most people walked away from itand I couldn't.
You know, uh, that that's thething.
Like there was a time in mylife where I could have walked
away, but why?
And then there came a timewhere I had to walk away and I
couldn't and it just had me inthe grips and, uh, from 2005 to
2011, uh, I bounced out of12-step programs.
(06:23):
I bounced in and out, thinkingI could just drink, thinking I
could smoke a little weed,whatever it was.
Just like bad circumstances.
Don't hang around these people.
At the end of the day, whenpeople suffer from drugs and
alcohol, the addiction to that,I honestly just believe it's
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some kind of a soul sickness.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You're absolutely
correct.
Well, they don't call itspirits for anything, right?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, it's like I
said you pick up your booze,
we're out at the wine and spiritstore.
So when you're dealing withalcohol, you're dealing with the
spirits.
When you're throwing drugs inthe mix now, you're dealing with
witchcraft.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well, wine, yeah,
wine witchcraft, well wine, yeah
, wine.
Will you wine?
And then spirits?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean it's wild, bro
, it really is, yes it really is
, it's um, but that was ajourney in itself too.
You know, as far as gettingthere and and there's just too
many variables that go in to mystory to become you know this
conspiracy dude, uh, and I usethat in the air quotes Cause I'm
(07:31):
like um again you know we, I'mpretty sure.
You know you can get into thewhole history of you and where
that phrase was coined that youknow.
As far as the Warren report,CIA and JFK?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Absolutely, bro.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The guy who,
spearheaded that report was
fired by JFK a couple monthsprior.
It's crazy, right?
We're the crazy ones for askingquestions.
Yeah, I know, I just don'tblindly follow or believe I just
ask questions.
Man, it's okay, and if it'struthful it should be able to
hold up.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I made a mistake when
I was about 19 years old.
I don't know what I was doing,I was probably not doing
anything good, I was probablydepressed and I boiled down 30
caps of mushrooms because downhere in Georgia you got all
these cow pastures and you know,back in the day you would just
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you'd have a spotter and thenyou'd go out and you'd pick as
many damn shrimps as you canuntil the farmer came out with a
shotgun and then, you know, thespotter would say hey, and then
boom, you head to the car, boom, head to the car.
But I made a stupid decision ofboiling down 30 caps in some
(08:55):
Kool-Aid and drank the wholedamn big cup full and I had the
most intense experience,six-hour experience of my life,
and I think it changed my lifeand showed me a lot of things
about things.
So that was.
You know, I've always been kindof never trusted big pharma,
(09:17):
never trusted.
I mean a lot of things, bro.
It took me a minute to get backto normal after that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It was weird, it was
wild yeah, it's crazy, but at
the same time it's almost likeoh, is it?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I mean, I don't know
man, it's a testimony, because
god uses you.
I mean, you have to do thosethings to be able to sit here.
What, 30 years later, to beable to say that?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, that's what it
is.
I don't know if you're like me,but the biggest lessons in my
life come through pain.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh yeah, absolutely
Humility, and I said this today
and I was listening to a podcastof Frank Shelton today called
Humility and humility is fromGod.
Pride is of the devil.
It's always pride that kicksyou in the rear end.
(10:16):
Humility is a grand thing, it'san amazing thing.
I mean, think what Jesus Christdid.
It's an amazing thing.
I mean, think what Jesus Christdid no-transcript, and you
(10:40):
can't I mean people can't evenfathom that.
But that's another story.
But tell me a little bit moreabout yourself, bro.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So you know, the main
reason I hit you up and said
maybe you'd be interested in thestory is it's very God-related.
Let's do it.
I think he puts us in placeswhere he needs us at certain
times.
Right, we can get into allkinds of different stories.
The long and short of this onewas that we me and my wife had
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two miscarriages before mydaughter and two after.
Wow, so after the fourth one,they send us up to a doctor, an
in vitro doctor.
During COVID, me and Angelinawere waiting in the car for my
wife.
She's going in, gettingeverything checked out.
(11:42):
All her numbers look great, thedoctor.
There was kind of upset thatthey even sent her.
They said sadly, unfortunately,this is kind of what happens,
it's a part of it.
And she talked to thereceptionist for another five,
ten minutes before she headedout.
She's a little social butterflyand gets along with everybody,
(12:02):
she's a sweetheart.
And when she came out she saidlisten.
The doctor said our numberslook great.
The plan was for me to go inand talk to the doctor, but he
said if uh, you know, if youwant, you don't have to.
And I said, all right, well,you know, we've been in here for
an hour already, so let's getout of here, you know.
So we pull out on the way home.
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We're out in the county nowSuburbs, I guess you would call
it on a six lane highway.
We I don't know how long it was, maybe five, 10 minutes later
we pull up to a stoplight, a redlight, and my wife like just
shouts at me I was driving.
She said that just happened.
That just happened.
I said what did.
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At me I was driving.
She said that just happened.
That just happened.
I said what did.
And across the way, diagonally,across across the intersection,
is a minivan that's on fire andshe's like you got to get over
there.
You know, being the fireman,I'm like, all right, yeah, I'll
get it.
And and then I was about tojump out of the car without
being in park and she's like putit in park, you idiot.
So we started laughing.
I'm all right, all right, putit in park.
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I'm dressed in a t-shirt, um,shorts and sandals.
As I'm jogging over, um, youknow, and I hear the, the lady
that was driving, lorna, um, sheshouts out my baby, my baby, my
baby's still in the car.
So you know, now you're kickingthe high gear.
(13:24):
So this, this is uh, anotherbystander was on scene and the
guy names his name's leo andlorna run to the back as they're
as they're already dumping outtwo of lorna's other kids uh,
little georgie, he wound upgetting like stitches in his
chin.
And, uh, another little girl'sname, it's escaping me at the
(13:47):
time.
They run around the back.
They don't even know I'm onscene.
Yet I run over, I check thedoors on that side, on driver's
side, they're locked, enginecompartment's on fire.
I just, you know, run aroundthe side, the passenger side.
I checked the back.
The rear is locked but thepassenger front is open.
So I just jumped in the car,not taking in high heat.
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There's visibility, a littlebit of smoke, airbags deployed,
maybe a little glass shattered,whatever I knew.
The steering column was intact.
There's no magnesium, no highheat For a fire department
rescue.
It's not that cool, if thatmakes sense.
I mean, I kind of knew like Ihad time to operate.
I look in the back seat andthere's this little little
little girl back there, jemma,who's staring at me and like
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she's not even crying.
And as I go to grab her theystart smashing windows because,
you know, they didn't know I waseven on scene and I'm like I
got her.
I got her, you know, stop, stop.
So I was able to, you know,take her out of her seat belt.
She starts crying during thattime because of the windows and
everything else.
And I hand her off to the sideof the road to her mom.
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So that's lorna.
Lorna was lorna.
The passenger side was openbecause lorna's mom was in the
front seat and got busted upribs and was on the side of the
road.
So we hand off.
You know I hand the baby off to, uh, lorna.
You know we're hugging, we'rehigh fiving.
Uh, you know two other.
You know two other white kids,little white kids, like high
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school age, working at a carwash, come out with fire
extinguishers and I'm like, yeah, give me, give me.
Now I get it, you know.
And because it's six highway,you know a lot of chaos going on
, whatever.
But I kind of just knew what todo Took the extinguishers.
You know two extinguisherslater extinguished the fire.
You know we're hugging, we'rehigh fiving, and you know the
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guy Leo's, you know, leaving.
I stayed with Lorna, exchangednumbers and made sure like they
got in the ambulance and got allchecked out and you know, the
county fireman come out and, youknow, assess the scene and the
ambulance eventually gets there.
So when that guy, leo, left, mywife and my daughter were on
the side of the road still andthey were obviously a little
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distressed and a little worried.
And the guy said, oh, do you,are you okay?
Were you guys involved in theaccident?
And he said, no, that's myhusband over there.
And he was, like you know, itwas pretty emotional.
So it was pretty, like you know, raw emotions, and mom thought
she was going to lose herdaughter that day.
So it was pretty intense, youknow, and he said, wow, that was
, you know, it was cool and,like, all of us did what we had
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to do that day.
You know, that's what I think.
It was just a bit like a teameffort thing, um, and he said,
you know, to my wife oh, do youknow the mcguires and my wife's,
like I, I wouldn't know, I haveno idea, you know, because of
you know where I work at and Iget back in the car and my, my
wife, the first thing I said isdid you see that?
I do.
You know, we just rescued alittle girl, little one-year-old
girl, and my wife said, no, youidiot, all I seen was you in
the trunk putting the fire out.
I thought the car was going toblow up, you know, and that's
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kind of like the perception ofthe public, I guess from
watching too many denzelwashington movies.
Right, yeah, it's going to blowup.
So I'm like, no, we werelaughing.
Emotions were high, you know.
I was like all fired up.
It was pretty exciting.
And she said do you know theMaguires?
I said, well, yeah, you know,john's the chief at my station,
you know, and before I evenmaybe get five more minutes down
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the road, john's calling mebecause that guy, leo, called
John and you know he whathappened.
And like any good fireman storyI started off with, there was
you know he what happened in,like any good fireman story I
started off with there was, youknow there was fire to the right
of me, fire to the left,messing around and having fun
and we're laughing, and just youknow, tell him what happened.
And then he tells my captain atthe time, mike Conroy, about it,
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and Mike Conroy puts me in foran award and I wound up winning.
I won this award in 2020.
Me in for an award, and, and Iwound up winning.
I won this award in 2020.
And, uh, you know what happenedthat day.
Right is four white dudesstopped on a six lane highway to
help this black family.
You know, from whatever wasgoing on right and and I'll tell
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you exactly why I say it theway I say it and how I tell
people all the time is that whenyou know I got recognized, you
know you could take me out ofthe award.
I don't.
I just think that this is whowe are at the core of this.
You know, they startinterviewing me and asking me
questions Channel, channel six,row House magazine around here,
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local newspaper, nothing crazy,whatever.
You know, it's just like.
You know, it was really like afeel-good story, but nobody
would report the story as I wastelling it Right, and they said
you know, and I said, becausehere's the thing I said you want
to know the day that thishappened, that four white dudes
stopped to help this blackfamily on a six-lane highway.
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I said it was one day after thenews of George Floyd was
announced.
I said what we did that daywasn't special.
I said this is who we are.
This is America, this is theAmerica I'm part of.
I said you turn your.
You turn your TV off and youknow my everyday interactions.
99% of the time are happy andpositive.
You know, and what broke myheart is how hateful the world
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got after that and I kind ofwent into this shell where I'm
like dude, like we're beingmanipulated, we're being lied to
and it's funny because I I raninto propaganda bro is that
simple.
Again, I was a kid that didn'tquestion anything.
I got all my shots, I dideverything.
I didn't know how much itaffected us.
And in the summer that year Irun into, uh, my buddy, ravi, uh
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, indian, indian dude down theshore and I can say this girl,
danielle, who's sober, from myold neighborhood, who looks
super liberal, and I like them,and the tensions are high at the
time.
So so I'm not bringing anythingup because I just enjoy their
company.
Whatever they're the ones thatstart pointing me in the
direction of like, yeah, did youever check out this, this
documentary, or read this book,or look into the?
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You know?
And the stuff they, they put meon towards was like out of
shadows, everything's the richman's trick.
You know the creatures, theJekyll Island, that book about
how the Federal Reserve wasstarted, and I'm like and I
always tell people it's some ofthe craziest, wildest stuff I've
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ever read and watched, but it'sthe only thing that started
making any sense to me and Istarted trying to shout from the
rooftop saying, yeah, thesepeople are duping us.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, you feel it in
your heart, and that's what I
tell people.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I said I'm like dude,
I'm telling you I had a
conviction.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I had a conviction in
my heart.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like this.
This is off, dude, this is off.
You know, and I was the dudethat was telling my buddies
don't get vaccinated, don't getyour kids vaccinated.
I said if anything, hold off,ask questions.
The mask on the face and allthat kind of stuff.
I just questioned all of it.
It just didn't add up andthat's what I said.
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I said do you want to know howfear and conformity work?
So we got a thing down here inPhilly called Kensington Ave and
it's pretty much like it lookslike a third wall country, you
know from drugs, and it'srampant.
And if you ever seen the wirethe HBO series is a wire I had a
place called Amsterdam wherethey were allowed to do it.
It's almost like that.
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And that's what I said.
I said you want to know howfear and conformity work?
I said there's people onKensington Ave shooting dope on
their neck in their neck with amask on their face.
I said that makes sense to me.
Right, you know?
And if this thing was as deadlyas they're saying, we're
picking these kind of people upin trash trucks.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, first of all,
fear is nothing more than false
evidence appearing real.
That's fear.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's all.
Fear is man.
I'm with you A thousand percent, you know.
And the crazy part of it allright is after the recognition
there's an award, a littleceremony and have the family at
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my house that night, and I hadthe lady Lorna- and her little
girl, Gemma, and brother andsister and the mom out for pizza
.
So they come up and we take apicture with me, my wife and my
daughter.
And then it's funny when me andmy wife start looking at the
pictures months later we put thetimeline together that my son,
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Shawnee, was already in mywife's womb at the time of the
picture.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's awesome man.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
We didn't even need
to be there that day.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
That is awesome, yeah
, and I't even need to be there
that day.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
That is awesome.
Yeah, and I said, it's justlike there's too many variables.
You know people can call itcoincidental.
It's just like I just believecoincidences are God related.
He just kind of puts you at aplace where he needs you.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Especially when
coincidence I don't believe in
coincidences, but when theystart mathematically making
sense it's like it's crazy,right?
Are you kidding me?
I mean, I'm a math guy, so it'slike huh.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
There's just too many
variables that go into all that
man.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Oh, I know man, it's
crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
The only way I can
explain it is it's God-related.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yep, it is always
God-related, especially if you
have the spirit of God in you.
I mean, I try to.
I was selling a car yesterday.
In fact, I went back to sellingcars, which I hadn't done in
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four years, but I never soldcars.
Well, I sold cars the firstthree years of my career, which
was 98, 99, 2000, or, yeah,something around there.
But I just went back to sellingcars after being retired for
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four years to play music and Iwent back and the only there's a
.
There's a story behind it.
You'll have to listen to the,to the podcast about it.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
But I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I don't want to spend
too much time here, but I'm
telling you I would not drive anhour past 30 major dealerships
like Ford, Toyota, Chevy, to aused car dealership if I didn't
feel revival was going on atthat used car dealership.
There was a reason it was.
(24:38):
Yeah, you'll have to listen tothe podcast.
I don't want to tell us.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Which episode is it?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I'll, uh, I'll send
you the link.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, let me know, I
absolutely, absolutely will, and
this is the stuff that I enjoymore now because I was a sports
guy.
I was a sports guy my wholelife, Love sports.
I think sports is supposed tobe about, you know, signing up,
honoring, the commitment makingfriends Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It's a team effort.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, but you know
again, with everything in 2020
going on, it's like you knowthis is supposed to be about,
like you know, talking sometrash Dallas versus Philadelphia
, blah, blah blah, and it becamesomething that like I was down
with.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Oh, congrats, by the
way.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'm glad my I'm glad
my georgia bulldogs can help you
out.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm glad my georgia
dogs y'all got some bad defense
that's the first football gameI've watched end to end all year
, like I.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I need to me too,
same same.
I don't care, except forGeorgia.
I watched the.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oaks yeah, I went to
rehab down in Florida so I know
how rampant it is with collegefootball down south.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Which is?
I mean it's turned into likewhat I say now is NFL is now the
WWF or the NWA or WCW orwhatever.
It's all scripted, and thencollege football is now the NFL
Because now these motherfuckersthey're getting paid more than
these fucking NFL people.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I hate it because
it's such a good tradition.
But I mean it's all Roman, Imean it's all bread and circus.
You know that, so you can'texactly.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, exactly, that's
where I just lost love for it.
It's uh, yeah, absolutely don'thave any interest, you know, I
mean, and I know what's going on, but I just kind of was like
I'm good man, like I was a dudethat was in fantasy football
leagues and watching what'sgoing on.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I was the same same
way, brother.
I mean you talk soccer, butdown in the South back in the
70s and 80s it was the trifecta.
It was basketball, football,baseball, and it was mainly
baseball down South and my highschool had three out of four
Georgia State Championship rings.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, it's, yeah,
listen, yeah, it's crazy, bro.
We were always playing, we werealways outside, we were always
playing, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And now my kids.
It's funny because my son hedoes landscaping for a living.
He makes like $25 an hour,which is a big deal down here
for a 24-year-old, and he'sreally good at what he does
because his work ethic.
But he grew up like I gave himall the technology.
(27:32):
He was born in 2000,.
So just imagine that the firstiPhone came out in 2006.
I mean, first iPhone came outin 2006.
So just imagine his life.
I mean, first iPhone came outin 2006.
So just imagine his life.
That's all he's known is videogames and damn phones and shit,
because I didn't know no betterman, I just wanted my kids to
(27:53):
have shit.
I didn't have All the coolest,all the newest shit.
I didn't know they were beingprogrammed, but he turned out.
It was rough in high schoolwith him but he turned out great
and he's a godly.
He's turned into a godly man,which is an amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's great man.
Yeah, it's great stuff, andthat's the thing you know.
I think we're headed to wherewe were headed because of a
couple of things, and two ofthem are, you know, political
correctness, and we fell asleepat the wheel and just the truth
man.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
There's so many lies
out there.
There's so many cover-ups.
Our whole society is based onlies and they screwed up with
the Internet Okay, they censoredit as much as they could the
algorithms, other everything butwe hijacked it and we, we, we
(28:51):
hijacked it and they're like.
I saw a post today that said acult isn't a 100 million people
77 million, yeah, 77.
You know what I'm talking about.
What did?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
it say Cold is like a
couple hundred people with
purple hair.
Yeah, I see.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Some pronouns.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
The memes are the
best.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
There's so much truth
, man, and that's the thing.
They post these articles.
But what?
What's our?
What's an article?
It's an opinion piece from anindividual.
If you do the research and theydo it senseless, it's like.
It's like they post it and theybelieve it, and I'm like I
(29:41):
click on the author, I go down,I'm like, oh well, he's a damn
Democrat, he's a Trump hater.
I mean, all you got to do isit's not that hard.
It really isn't.
But people are lazy, and that'sthe thing is, with their cult,
with their beliefs, they have toshow it to you.
Cult with their beliefs, theyhave to show it to you.
So you, you, that's your formof uh saying okay, you know
(30:09):
that's, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And and that that
that meme you know what it was,
it was 77 million is in a cult.
That's a revolution, yeah nodoubt.
Yep, and that's what no doubt.
Yep, and that's what you knownowadays.
We got, you know, the JoeRogans, the Candace Owens and
all these people, tucker Carlson, all these people that are just
having honest conversations.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
And even, like Joe
Rogan, even Theo Vaughn, bro,
even Theo Vaughn, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And all they're doing
is having honest conversations
with all kinds of differentpeople and they're classified as
far right wing.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, yeah, oh,
trust me, I know yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's just, it's um
and again.
That's why, like a lot of times, even on Facebook, um, people
from my end, they get blocked,they get hidden, Um, and it's
nothing personal, but it'snothing personal.
But my thing is, you don't wanta conversation.
You want me to feel and thinkhow you do, based off of your
feelings and emotions, and I'mnot to die because I've been
(31:10):
treating people fair my wholelife.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I have a hard time
blocking people because I just
pray that one day they'll justsee a post and it might plant a
seed.
You know what I'm saying.
They might come to Christ.
You never know, bro, you neverknow.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And you know again, I
appreciate you even hearing the
story out dude Like I justbelieve that.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh no, that's amazing
, brother and I, yeah, yeah,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
We just, you know,
linked up for a reason God was
there.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, god was there
that night, that's all it is,
there is no other.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
We're friends with
that family to this day, man,
and they're just beautifulpeople.
And listen, when that happened,too, you got to remember like I
didn't look at it like a blackfamily.
It was like it's a human.
There's a little kid in needand it's like, okay, let's go
get her.
It's not like, yeah, who'd youvote for?
You vaccinated?
You're wearing a mask.
It's like like, oh, okay, therewas no thought and that's what
(32:11):
I said like take me out of thestory.
I said this is, this is who weare as americans.
Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Like we are each
other's keeper right and god
puts the right people in theright place at the right time to
do his work, so that that storyis shown for the glory of God,
and only the glory of God.
We are just vessels, and thatis an amazing story and an
amazing testimony.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Amen to that man and
that's what reminded me when
we're talking about sports.
Amen to that man and that'swhat reminded me when we were
talking about sports.
And if you want to talk about,like, I was at my lowest, not at
my lowest, but it was aroundthe time that it was the final
time that I, you know, got highagain and you know, sadly, I
upgraded to, you know, fromPercocets to Oxys goes to heroin
(32:58):
.
Yeah, sniffing you, sniffingbags of dope.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
A lot of people don't
recover from that brother.
Yeah, well, that's what I tell.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
When I get to speak
to high school kids, and that's
my story and what I tell them islike I'm not telling you to go
out and try a $10 bag of dope,but I had a harder time kicking
Oxycontin and percocets and it'sbecause when you were paying
for that pure synthetic medicine, you were getting it versus a
bag of whatever chopped uphowever many different times,
(33:30):
right, whatever, right, andthat's what I said.
It's just like.
My thing is like don't downplaywhat you're putting in your
body.
Everyone's just a load of work,right?
It's just like it's all thesame shit.
It's all the same.
You know that that opiatesubstance is is just a killer,
and it's through my soul hellthey.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
They did a damn
documentary on oxycontin and the
documentary said that you hadto, you had to chemically be
well, I think that was to getpeople to think to trade one
drug for another, like methadoneand uh and suboxone and that
sort of thing yeah, we can talkabout that all day.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, that's like
putting the handcuffs on
yourself right, exactly, andthat's, that's, um.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think that is why
that documentary came out,
because so many people arealready hooked.
So now, now they're going tosend out propaganda saying, oh,
the only way you can get off ofthis drug without dying is to
get on another drug.
Yeah, that's idiocracy initself.
(34:34):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, but that's who
it is.
It's just placing the handcuffson yourself.
You gave up on you, we gave upon you.
Your family gave up on you,just gave up on you.
Your family gave up on you.
Just do this.
Show up in this littlefour-block radius for the rest
of your life.
Again, it's another prison.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yep and get on
disability for the rest of your
life.
Yeah, that's where it leads toTrickle-down economics.
Baby.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's not government
assistance, it's government
dependency, right exactly.
That's what I said, when yousign up for that stuff at an
early age, what happens is youhave no idea what you're capable
of even doing, and you have noidea how high you can fly, man,
because you settled your wholelife.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Right, you're
absolutely correct, man.
People don't have a clue.
The power as a human being thatGod gave them I mean, it says
it all in the Bible Like you cancast out demons, you can do,
you can move, that you can belike Jesus.
(35:46):
But we are so inundated in thisworld that we don't know that
frequency level yet.
But I think it's coming.
It may not be in our generation, but I think it's coming.
These kids are pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, they were
amazing.
My hopes and prayers, man, myhopes and prayers during this
time has always been the truthto come out and that there was
no civil war.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That's all we got is
prayer, man.
I heard a guy today.
I mean hell, they got a wholemonth where a guy dressed up in
tutu and shit right, they got awhole month for that.
It's time for Christians.
Well, I'm not even going to sayChristians, I'm going to say
it's time for Christ followersto come out to Claude and flash
(36:32):
like they flash.
Pray loud, pray openly, prayfor everybody and everything.
And it's time for revival.
It really is time for revivalin this country, man.
It really is.
Just tell them.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
And that's what I
always tell people too, even if
you're not biblical.
I said what was the devil'sgreatest trick?
Convincing the world he didn'texist.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
And I said what else
was the devil, both male and
female?
I said where are we at with ourkids today?
What are we doing?
Yep you know, and I, I will 100, always unapologetically speak
up for my kids oh, and for yourkids you have to.
I don't, I don't care, I don'tcare if I hurt your feelings, I
don't care if you don't like me,and that's not to go around
(37:22):
saying I act like a butthead ona daily basis.
It's just like I'm having thesehonest conversations, right?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Well, like I said,
it's not to hurt your feelings.
Humility is of God.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
That's it, dude Yep.
And then the other story.
A couple stories I want toshare, but one of the things
you're going to look out for inAugust is a guy named Charlie
Strange.
His son, Michael Strange, waskilled in Extortion 17.
He has a documentary coming outabout you can't burn the truth.
Wow I like the title alreadyyeah, great, great dude,
(37:59):
unbelievable human being.
I can maybe even link you twoup if you're interested in that.
He's a.
He's a great dude to talk to,absolutely um and um, you know,
and it's funny.
Like you know, sports wasalways about life lessons.
So when I was at like my lasttime, um, I was under lock and
key for like eight, nine days,withdrawing and my niece was
(38:21):
born, uh, up at the hospital inthe city on 5, 17 and I didn't
have any money.
Uh, this is what's working too,like steady job, and you know
how everything goes to that.
Uh, the next drug, um, I woundup hocking my high school ring
at the jeweler's row down there,right, right and uh, and you
(38:42):
know there's a lot ofsentimental value to that and um
, just like you know one of thethings I did and again you want
to talk about coincidences uh,being god related, I get
involved with coaching after Igot sober and I think it's like
maybe my second or third, fourthyear being sober, second year
coaching, um, the team that Iwas coaching winds up winning,
(39:03):
like you know, the league aroundhere.
It's like maybe my second orthird, fourth year being sober,
second year, coaching the teamthat I was coaching winds up
winning.
Like you know, the leaguearound here it's called the
Catholic League Right, they winthe championship.
And I didn't even know that,like you know, I was a part of
the team, you know, and they gotme a ring, a high school ring,
you know, and that's the kind ofstuff that, like, where I'm
like man, you know.
(39:24):
And that's the kind of stuffthat, like, where I'm like man,
like god.
For me, when it's coincidental,it's god, let me know that I'm
on the right path, I'm doing theright thing.
Oh yeah, yep, it's all it comesdown to man.
And uh, you know, I'm cool withjust being a vessel and, like
you know, the biggest title thatall of us can earn out there is
to be that of a servant.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yep, and God's
elevated in numbers.
I mean, don't get it twistedYep.
So you're absolutely correct,my man.
Do you have anything else youwant to tell our listeners while
you're on the cast?
The faith cast.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I don't, man.
It's just I love what you'redoing, I appreciate what you're
doing.
I thank you for speaking openlyand honestly on this podcast,
on Facebook or whatever it is,and not shying away from the
truth, and it makes people likeme, and I'm sure a lot of other
(40:16):
people, realize yeah, you're notlosing your mind, you're not
crazy.
The world we just were livingin for a while was, you know,
bizarro world.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, it's amazing,
the people you meet on this
journey, the food for thoughtpodcast.
I want to, I want to.
I want to pray for Sean realquick, before we leave.
I'm a praying man, I'm a, I'm aBaptist, so we pray out loud.
So we're going, we're going topray for you real quick, sean.
Dear Heavenly Father, we cometo you today.
I want to especially pray forthis guest that I've had on my
(40:49):
podcast, sean Dugan.
He's got two beautiful littlekids, lord.
I pray that he give them thespirit he teaches them of you,
lord, the way you want him to.
Lord, I pray that his day todayis amazing, his day tomorrow is
(41:10):
amazing and I want to pray ashield of safety around him, as
he is a public server, lord, foryou, a firefighter.
Lord, we know you were therethat day.
We appreciate you, we honor you.
We know you're always going tobe over him as long as he looks
at you first.
(41:30):
Lord, we love you.
Lord, we pray.
It's in Jesus' name we pray,amen.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
All right brother.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Thank you so much,
brother.
You have a great night dude,and look forward to chatting.
All right, brother.
Thank you so much, brother.
You have a great night dude and, you know, look forward to
chatting.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Absolutely, my friend
.
We'll do it again soon.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Thank you for the
food for thought, my brother.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, love you,
brother.
All right, love you, Peace.
God bless you.
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