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June 11, 2024 56 mins

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Episode 134. Active Shooter Response with Ed Monk

 

Ed Monk, a retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel with extensive experience in addressing active shooter scenarios, discusses the active shooter problem and the flaws in current approaches to school safety. He emphasizes the need for immediate, deadly, violent counterattacks to minimize the number of victims. Monk criticizes the reliance on law enforcement response, lockdown drills, and building hardening as ineffective solutions. He also highlights the limitations of school resource officers and the misconception that their presence guarantees safety.

 

Monk provides examples of shootings where resource officers were present but failed to prevent high victim counts. The conversation focuses on the importance of taking immediate action to respond to an active shooter threat. The guest, Ed Monk, emphasizes the need for armed individuals who are present, willing, and trained to counter-attack the shooter within the first 30 seconds of the attack. He highlights the illusion of security provided by law enforcement and the limitations of nonviolent measures. Monk discusses the significance of rule four in active shooter scenarios, which emphasizes the importance of being sure of the target and what's beyond it. He also mentions the need for proper training and the success rate of armed citizens in stopping active shooters.

 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction of Ed Monk and his expertise

04:23 Ed Monk's interest in the active shooter problem

08:43 The importance of time and math in active shooter situations

12:24 Limitations of relying on law enforcement response

16:46 Flaws in lockdown drills

25:39 The misconception of school resource officers as a solution

29:17 The Illusion of Security Provided by Law Enforcement

32:10 The Importance of Immediate Action in Active Shooter Situations

32:41 The Need for Proper Training in Active Shooter Response

34:39 The Significance of Rule Four in Active Shooter Scenarios

41:43 The Success Rate of Armed Citizens in Stopping Active Shooters

 

Resources

Last Resort Firearms Training

https://www.facebook.com/people/Last-Resort-Firearms-Training/100057584853533/

 

Active Shooter Speaking and Training Events

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=924037062859114&set=pb.100057584853533.-2207520000&type=3

 

Heroes Conference

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=921651756430978&set=pb.100057584853533.-2207520000&type=3


Takeaways

  • Immediate, deadly, violent counterattacks are necessary to minimize the number of victims in active shooter situations.

  • Relying solely on law enforcement response, lockdown drills, and building hardening is ineffective in preventing high victim counts.

  • The presence of school resource officers does not guarantee safety and may not deter attackers.

  • Schools need to shift their focus from nonviolent solutions to the active shooter problem and prioritize the goal of minimizing the number of victims. Immediate action is crucial in responding to an active shooter threat.

  • Armed individuals who are present, willing, and trained have a high chance of minimizing the victim count.

  • Law enforcement and nonviolent measures provide an illusion of security and have limitations.

  • Rule four, which emphasizes target identification and awareness of what's beyond the target, is essential in active shooter scenarios.

  • Proper training is necessary to effectively respond to an active shooter.

  • Armed citizens have a higher success rate in stopping active shooters compared to law enforcement.

 

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