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April 22, 2025 • 46 mins
In this episode, the Good Ole Boys tackle the age-old question of why nice guys finish last. Join the guys as they share personal stories, insights, and the struggles of being the "nice guy" in relationships. From friend zones to backup plans, this candid discussion explores the dynamics of kindness, attraction, and the often complicated world of dating. Tune in for some laughs and relatable tales!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Fairfacts South Carolina to view for North Mettle Beach, New
York City, Florence, Columbia. Back here in Rock Hills, South
Carolina and the Charlotte, North Carolina metropolitan area. We are
the good Old Boys on the Forecast Media Radio Network
with thee Mario Washington like Trump ran Wiz Yes back
in the house once more, talking about that actual factual

(00:36):
as only the good old Boys know how to bring
it to you.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
How y'all boys doing today?

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Pretty good man, no complaints, can't complain. Man, I'm feeling
pretty good myself, bro.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Max and and relaxing, all cool and all shoot some
outside of school.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know that dude dropped the album on dropping the album.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
Yeah, man, hit it with the freestyle too.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah, he had a song on Big Sean sort of
wrote his lyrics, but it sounded pretty good. Respect Willie
Big Willie, Yeah, will Smith Big Willie.

Speaker 7 (01:14):
Okay that that Big Willy Yeah this cat I know
the fresh prints, yo, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I remember remember he uh, this is what like when
I guess getting Gigi Weeed. It came out and he
did an interview and and in the interview he said
ryme for rhyme, man lyric for lyric, ain't nobody can
really rhyme with.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Me if you don't write your own lyrics? And shut
the hell up. How do you even come out of
your mouth saying something that you said?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It really okay me and me when now I swears
that he didn't write getting gig with it. He swears
he didn't write it. But that was always the ruler.
And let me.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Tell you how I know that was true. I remember
in a freshman at Winthrop, the Grammys came and I'm
watching MTV and they just suddenly cut the nis and
the interviewing him because he had just released his second
album that year. Uh, it was written, it was written,
but not.

Speaker 7 (02:17):
The third one.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, that's what I mean, the.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Third one I am.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
And they asked this man who did he who did
he like for winning the Grammy for Best Rap Album?
And this man was or whatever Grammy Will Smith won,
and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna go with my man,
Will Smith. And I was like, what why would Niles
be Will Smith Man? They just don't even add up.
And I remember it. It was messing with me all year.

(02:46):
I was like, why would this dude. And then when
I heard he wrote it, I was like, oh, that
made sense because she wrote it.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Well, they were on the same record label, so.

Speaker 8 (02:53):
Right, it.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Made that happen.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
You know WHEREZ you was doing the nas impersonation just now,
And I remember he interviewed, Uh, I think he was
interviewing Martin Scorsese and Robert de Niro or something for
something and uh, uh dude, uh add the advert was
there and he said the whole time after every time
one of them talked, Knives would say, yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
That's all you know how to say. Let me ask
you this though, he give me a cigarette gun.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Now, that's how he was in belly like exactly like.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
That no belly. He was terrible, but I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Was saying was actually jungle his brother after talking about
getting shot, They're like, yo, know what I mean, we
should have moved, man, Let me get a cigarette.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Guy, And then I want the documentary timezill Manic or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, it was on something man recently like it's
a good doc man though. But anyway, we're talking about
how Good Guys finished last this.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Week and and uh, what sparked this?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Man, I'm I'm gonna'm gonna get real with y'all real quick, man,
if y'all indulged me. Man, Like, I was thinking back
on my life though, and I was thinking about, like
what happened to some of the girls that I was
interested in and the good and how they turned me
down right, and how things turned out for some of

(04:35):
them in terms of love life, in terms of life
and well I'm not gonna say that, but uh, but
I was thinking about like that, what was it about
me that these girls didn't like doll And then I was.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Like, oh, that's right, I'm a nice guy.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
And and you wasn't selling dope. You you ain't had
no money to the tennis bracelets, no Dooney and Burt purses.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well I didn't have that. They had no money for that.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
But yeah, you got the fake ones from Japan or turn.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
To go to the little the little store uptown man
and get the full five.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Remember remember those jerseys.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And they had a number five or the zero five
on it, like a hockey jersey.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
What was the importance of five, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
That was the it was a number of of owners
or whatever.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
With the original.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Oh you'd always see four in the commercial and then
l would started rapping for us.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
That was the gap commercial though.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
Yeah, I know right that he's created he didn't know crazy.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
And he got two million dollars for that.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
That was wild. Yeah up again done now.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
But uh but yeah, man, like I'm sure that y'all
can relate to that because we we were always the
nice guys and stuff. Man, And like you know, sometimes
when you're the nice guy, you walk into the cafeteria
and the girl give you the hair and bone.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, whatever, Yeah, because you're nice. You ain't You ain't
the thug? Is that everybody talking about or or everybody
wanting at the time. You're just a cool person and
you know.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, so it is. Look at me, I can't Jojo,
look call.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Back real quick now.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
But but the whole show is is is we're going
to tell you why they don't like you when you're
the good guy. Back gonna go to the boys forecast
Media Radio Network talking about how good guys finished last.
Has anybody ever taken advantage of your kindness?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Trump?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, I mean I think that's probably happened several times
throughout the throughout the years. I think because once we
fall for someone, whether it's mutual or not, like we're
going to go out of our way to try to
make them feel like, Yo, you are the one, and
I'm going to make sure you feel like you're the

(07:37):
one and only that I'm in love with you. And
whether or not it it was never reciprocated or you
know that that love that they felt phased out. It
becomes a point where you want it more than them, man,
and then that's when they started taking advantage of it

(07:57):
or they leave. And I mean, like I say, if
I'm in that situation and as long as I'm benefiting,
then why would you leave? So, yeah, it's happened to
me several times.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
How about you, wiz.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
I've never had a woman take advantage of me because
when I was a nice guy, I was broke, so
there was nothing for them to gain. Then when I
became I got into money and they would try me.
I was no longer a nice guy, so it never
happened to me.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Well, it's not about money, right, No, go ahead, Troy
black Troupe. I thought, oh, I thought you using a
Oh yeah, it's not. It's not really about the money
that you know, they're taking advantage of They're taking advantage
just of your heart. Knowing that I think there's that

(08:54):
power that they feel they have over you. Well see
that's still what makes them. That's what makes them feel like,
oh wow, watch watch what I tell us got to
do and watch him bring it. See that that doesn't.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
I don't work. That doesn't. That's not a problem for
me because they know I don't have one to begin with,
so they don't even waste time trying.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
When it's cold outside.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
You know though, man like, because you know, just pigging
back on what Trump was saying, man like, I do
think that like we we we confuse like, oh, they're
gonna they gonna take my money and stuff with taking
advantage of you.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Now, I'm talking about kindness, man, I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Like like it's it's it's like you don't appreciate the
fact that I am kind and and and and and
then basically like running me into the ground, right you.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Oh yeah, but but you ain't gonna do that though.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
I know.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Listen, I'm like I'm like, wiz on this one boy,
this this this ice bo it's an ice box on
this mug right now, you know, like get out of here, like.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
But it's happened to you though, Yeah, because.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Man, I'm a kind dude, And at some point you
got to learn to take your those little googly goggles
off and look at the situation for what it is.
Like Trump was saying, you know, when you realize that
this person is constantly asking this of you and doing
this and doing that, but you're not getting where you
think it should. The relationship is not progressing how you
would like for it to. So you got to learn

(10:19):
to to to take it on the chin and be like, yo,
all right, I'm done with this one, y'all.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
What what's what does progression look like?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
And and and when when you talk about a relationship
like that, because I'm saying you you could be you know,
getting it in with this person and all of this
type of stuff, man, and it still feels like they
might be taking advantage of you just because.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Uh like, like like Trump said earlier, again, it's just
a matter of like, you're gonna do what you want
to do because that's what you want to do. But
if you just notice that that's not being reciprocated in
any shape form of fashion, like you're not getting it's
a it's an equal beneficial arrangement in a sense, you know,
Like so if if you're not into me like that,
like I'm into you then and it doesn't have to

(11:02):
be the same way that I am into you. But
if you're not showing any interest at all, why am
I wasting my time? That's if I'm showing you love
and attention then and you're not showing me anything back,
then you're not interested. So I'm not going to be
the fool and keep doing for you or showing you
the love like that. If you're not doing it for me.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, that's a state of denial. Like your friends can
see it clear as they and they can tell you,
and you're going to be like, nah, that's not the case.
It's just going to be one of those days where
you just wake up and come to that conclusion on
your own that you're not really benefiting and you're better
off being single, because a lot of times that's the case,

(11:43):
Like you're so in the trenches with this person and
making them happy that you can't really see clearly what's
going on, and stepping out of that is the challenge.
Like you you don't want, you don't see your your
life without this person, and until you make that move,

(12:04):
you don't recognize that, Yeah, this person really wasn't feeling
me like that.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
They definitely see their life without you though.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, you hyper up in front of your boys and
hey man, this and that and blasely blind.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Then when you get in.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Front of your boys and it ain't it ain't cracking
like how you said it was, or she ain't showing
you that attention.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
Now you're getting laughed at. That's that's time to call
out of it.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
The only time you really can actually tell, though, is
if you you bring this person around your crew and
then your crew recognizes it before you can.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Because it always.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Seems to be the case where we can't see this
stuff happening while it's happening to us, but our boys
definitely can't.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
A younger me couldn't. A younger me really couldn't.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
You know what I'm saying, But again, you you just
have to have conversations with yourself, God or whomever, meditate
and figure it out.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
Like the answer is always there.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
You just got like you said, you got to take
those goggles off of how you see them and then
put on your real, your big man goggles and look
at the situation for what it is, like we all
can make the decision, like Trump was saying, sometimes it's
just hard to see them beyond what you see them as.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, Uh, we're gonna come back and we're gonna talk
about when they decide to friend zone you because you're
a nice guy. Back on the Go to Boys Forecast
Media Radio Network talking about how good guys finished last
I feel like I've been the like King Kong of

(13:32):
the friend zone over over over the course of my
my adolescence, Like like I ain't even know I would
be in the friend zone, and like I'm just saying
that just all nice and comfortable, just.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Chilling in air zone and.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Uh in the presence, you know what I'm saying, Like,
because they don't tell you that they're not friend zone
you you find out like when you make your move
and then they laugh and.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I'm like, oh, I only see you as like you
like my brother.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
Hey, you gotta hit her with that.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
I grew up in Alabama, good dang, I just got that.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
That's crazy.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
That way.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
So, like I was sitting here when when we're putting
the show together, man, I was sitting here thinking about like, uh,
the amount of times that I've been friend zone, like
against my will friend zone, and it was probably like
five times throughout my life that I got I got
locked in the friend zone man, and I didn't.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I mean I had no intentions of being there, you
know what I mean? And like that, that's when it
that's when it's a problem.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Man.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Like you know, but this seems to only happened when
you're young, girl, because like we do it.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
We do it the females too. Man, it'd be like
a cheek that's cool. She might not be your type,
but she got a cool spit. Huh, go ahead, Oh,
she's got the cool spirit. And it's like you just
you can relate with her. So it's just she likes
you more than you like her, but you only see
her as a friend because it's not your tight But

(15:09):
you don't want to hurt their feelings, you know what
I'm saying. But I think they know it because they
see it's not progressing the way they like to.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
They move on. But for some reason, guys be like, man,
I'm in there, ball Hey, I'm just I'm waiting. I'm waiting. Like,
to me, that's a sucker. You just sitting there waiting
for a chick that they's showing you no.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Is that a sucker over? Because you you you you
liked her from the jump, right, But but.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
But she's moving on and not showing you no.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Love, bro, Like you are simple if you're just sitting
there waiting on that love from her and she ain't
giving it to you like that and like and then
she's talking about other guys around you because you're her friend.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Bruh, you a sucker, bro, You a sucker man.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
It's okay, all right, so hold on, all right, this.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Man is going to be nobody second sloppies in that sense. Bro,
If you ain't like me when I took the shot
at you, if you ain't like me when I took my.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Shot, ain't ain't no more friend zone after you take
that shot, though, Like that, because they be so cool
with like, you know, hanging out with you and all
this type of stuff when they know that there ain't
gonna be no action taking place. But when they find
that out, you know what I'm saying, Like then they
like all of a sudden, they ain't trying to hang
out with you no more because you're trying to like

(16:20):
you know, do something else and I'm piecing you out. Yeah,
like I'm doing that.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
We could just be friends and that's what it is. Like, Hey,
I'm not gonna sit there and be no sucker and
still keep trying and you out here looking. But see
it's funny though, because again I've been in that situation
before I shot the shot friend zone cool. Not a problem,
not a problem. But to see that, see how other
things transpire with what you're looking for you never can find.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Good luck to you, you know, is.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
On the guy though, because they're not they're not like
forceful enough or direct enough. A lot of times they're
beating around the bush or trying to you know, drop
ants and try to get a read read on whether
the girl likes him or not. They're afraid to just
be like, look, I'm feeling you. I'm trying like our friendship,

(17:10):
the energy we have, I think it could be more.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Let's go play in the zone on the relationship instead
of hitting that man. The man you know, Yeah, the
girl doesn't have that clarity to be like, yo, I
don't know what this guy wants. Most of the guys
that I date, they're like direct and telling me you

(17:36):
know what I want to hear. Whereas this other guy
is is passive and uncertain of how he wants to move.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
So to me, that's usually the problem.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
See, sometimes that uncertainty is developed because they this guy
feels like, Okay, I know this girl because I've been
in the friend zone for so long, and i want
to I want to show her that I'm the guy
that she needs. And it's like this whole this Broadway
production and you losing, bro, your tickets not selling.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
You need to, like Trump said, you need to come
in with a plan, execute you know, and you win.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
Bro. That's just the that's point blank period. Man.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
You can't sit back and think, you know, if you
like her, tell her you like her, give her, give
her the deal, and if she does it cool and
when you move on, watch how she come around the
corner wanting you. She's gonna see what she was giving
her before.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
You know what I told the dude November of twenty
twenty three, I was advising this dude who was in
a terrible situation, the kind of situation where he went
on a camping trip with a girl thinking it's going
to be just her. She brought a dude with her.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh, and.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
He had to listen to them have sex and the
other knowing that he likes this girl. And Yo, he
didn't know.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
He didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
That's the reason of a thirty.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
I told walk in that tent, bro holding my joints,
say like, yo, hey, what.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
What were doing?

Speaker 6 (19:17):
He said. They went to the mountains in North Carolina.
It was a cabin and he thought he was going
to be she was coming alone. He was going to
finally make his move, and she brought a dude and
his marriage the other dude. He had to listen. But
I told dude, I said, listen, this goes to what
Black Trump was saying. It's the guy's fault because the
girl doesn't know you like it like that at all times.

(19:38):
Every woman has to know that you are willing to
have sex with her. You have to make sure they
know you. Got to talk about sex every now and
then maybe say something to let her know she can
get it. I'm not saying and this was a mistake.
He thought. I was saying, you gotta consistently pursue her
sexually or just talk like come on to her all

(20:00):
the time. Now, I'm not saying try to have sex.
I'm trying to make sure she knows that you are
willing to have sex with her at all time.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
But I just think that, like, there's there's a clear
distinction with how you act with a girl that is
a friend versus a girl that you're trying to get with.
And I don't understand like the logic and like how
women will sometimes say that they don't they don't see
that you like them or whatever, because you don't treat

(20:28):
them the same way that you treat like I mean,
they see how you interact with the girls.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I don't, Mario, I don't think. I don't think it's
nice guys, finished last. I think it's shy guys, finished last.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
And I'll tell you this else too. This is I'm
gonna answer your question, b Mario Washington in the craziest
way possible, because it's crazy that you ended last segment
with Phiel Moms sick of being lonely? Who sang the
hook on that song? Who knows?

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Do you know?

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Who's saying the chorus?

Speaker 3 (20:55):
From Columbia?

Speaker 6 (20:56):
From Columbia, Torika Cornelius from Northeast Spring Valley, but she
graduated at Ridgeview, and I met her in summer school.
We were taking a geometry class together, and then she
came over to Ridgeview and I tried to holler at
her right and she told me, oh, I never knew
you felt that way about me. And I was like,

(21:18):
why would How did you not know? And she was like,
I mean you just always so so friendly and so
brotherly to me. And I said, well, what's the difference
between what I'm doing and what another do? She said, well,
he I mean, I know he wants to have sex
with me. And then that always stuck with me, and

(21:39):
I said, okay, so from now on, they got to
always know that you want to have something they know.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
As a young dude, bro, you you got that energy
that's popping on you constantly. So there is no difference
in how you talk to the girl that's a friend
versus a girl that you're trying to holler at. You
know what I'm saying, Because it's just the energy is this,
and it's like you're just it's kind of like Russian Roulette.
You're just like, Okay, maybe it's gonna happen over here,

(22:05):
maybe it's gonna happen over here.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
But as you get older, it's like you every week.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
We got confused at some point in time where we
thought that our significant other could be an actual best friend.
That's maloney to me, like out of like that's crazy,
you know what I'm saying, Because it has to be
some type of separation, like like you know, you you
got to be on some Clark Kent superman out here
when it comes to that, because certain things. You can't

(22:31):
talk to your lady like you talk to your homegirl.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
But it is and again if you're really wanting somebody
like that, like I got homegirls that I don't look
at them like that at all, you know what I'm saying.
And with some that we not have had relations before,
but we don't cross that line and stuff. But you know,
it's still like the playfulness with it. But it's like
both of us know that that it is nothing there

(22:56):
in that sense.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
So I don't hang out with ugly people though, so
like all the girls, and I'm friends with a bad as.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Hell and listen, I was dating the chick one time.
Bro got ticked off when one of my homegirls and
her sister came to a Christmas party or something and
they came in there looking fly, dressed to the nines
all that bro and it was and I got heat
for it. I'm like, I can help it. They come
you know what I'm saying, who that? Who them girls?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Like?

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Is it my fault that they came in here dressed
up looking good?

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Like what would you want them to come here with
some jogging pants on and everybody else dressed up in
you know, nice gear.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
But it's just crazy, man.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
That's a problem within itself. Is like having nothing but
attractive friends because like, especially if they're used to guys
hitting on them and they're expecting you to hit on
them or compliment them.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Not they actually your friend.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I mean again, if hey listen, if that's what they
used to, you know, give it to them. But at
the same form, sometimes that's how you get them.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
That's what I'm saying, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, Uh, we're gonna come back and we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Talk about how sometimes uh, women will try to break
yourself esteem and that's how you end up finishing Last.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
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Speaker 2 (24:39):
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Black Trump and Grand Wiz.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
We're talking about.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Guys, the good guys finishing last, And to piggyback on
what Wiz was saying in the previous segment about uh
uh the girl that went on to become a singer
and got it, the all of that stuff, right, Uh
how did that affect your your your your your self esteem,

(25:08):
like like all your manhood for her saying that she
didn't know that you was trying to get with her
because the other guy, like, I know, he wants to
have sex with me.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
To that like hurt your self esteem at all or anything?

Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah? And what and what and what happened? Like how
did you view her after that?

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I was hurt? Well, no, I was not hurt. I
was more mad for like a little bit. I was like, man,
you know this, I started calling her the B word
in my head and I was like damn. But then
I said, nah, man, that's not right. I mean I
shouldn't like want to like eliminate her life just because

(25:51):
she didn't a good thing. So if we all have
all prerogative, so you know, but I I still didn't. Yeah,
I think I learned a lesson and I got further
away from the friend zone after that.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
But were you friends with her any more after that.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
No, that was it. Yeah, that was that was pretty
much it. Because I went to Winthrop and she went
somewhere else. She moved to Atlanta and started getting into music.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
What is she doing now?

Speaker 6 (26:22):
I haven't talked to you in a while. I'll find out.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Man.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Here goes some good old, good old fashioned Uncle CJ
advice for y'all.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
It's been a while.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
And I got this advice when I was maybe sixteen
years old. He said, son, fifty percent of this world,
the people in the world gonna hate you, and fifty
gonna have love for you. Man, and you know, like
the hell with those who ain't got love for you.
That that helped me get over a lot of that
stuff that I was like the rejection so to speak,
and not saying that rejection doesn't hurt because we all

(26:51):
if we shoot that shot and fail, it's like, dag it, man, dang,
I could have a man.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
I needed to scoop that.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
You just got to get over it, because again, everybody
not gonna like you. Just because you like her, don't
mean she gotta like you and you. You ain't got
to call it a B word or nothing. You know,
But if I don't know your name is sweetie, That's
what I'm gonna call you. But you know, at the
same time, it's like, you can't be upset with her
for not you know, giving you that energy, because she
likes what she's into what she's into, so you let

(27:17):
it slide. And if you're really hurting you and you
a g about it, you holler at her friend like okay, whatever,
and then have a great relationship with her friend. You know,
like you just you gotta move on, basically, is what
I'm saying. Don't sit there and dwell on that. And
you just got to get over that part. And I
ain't saying it's easy, but you have to. As a man,
you have to move past that. I mean, if you're
dealing with it from a female's point of view as well,

(27:39):
you gotta look at it for that. Okay, yay, I
like this person. I shot my shot. He's not into me. Okay,
maybe we can be friends because I do like something
about this person. But you gotta definitely be able to say, okay,
these feelings are no longer there because I know they're
not gonna be reciprocated. And you can't sit around waiting
and hoping that this relationship is that they're and is

(28:00):
going to fall and I'm going to come in and
comfort and you know, you got to get all of
those storylines out your head in order to move on
with life.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
At the end of the day, I feel like those
women they think about about you now more than you
think about them, because they're the ones that are like, damn,
what I'm looking for And a guy has has shifted
so much, but back then to now that a lot
of those qualities that I didn't want fifteen years ago

(28:31):
is exactly what I'm looking for or would appreciate today.
So like, yeah, I don't I don't look back at
a lot of those women that put me in a
friend zone. I just I think with men, we just
keep on shooting and keep on.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, but keep.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Talking about man, I got to catch that same catfish again.
You're just happy to catch a fish. You're going out
to japond, you know, and you're going to keep doing
your thing.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
But you've one hundred percent heard the different times that
a woman like would like be in a relationship with
the guy and then decide I don't really like him
because he he does everything I say and stuff like that,
man like, like that's that's a way of challenging a
guy's manhood as well. Man Like, where you you you

(29:20):
know that you can get away with this stuff because
you know that he's he's being kind to you and
stuff like that. And then you just eventually, like you
get into an argument or something and say something like
I know you're gonna do it anyway. You do everything
I tell you to do, you know what I'm saying,
like like that that right there, man, Like, I think,
like you know, only happens to good dudes. Man Like,

(29:41):
they never talk to dudes who are horrible to them
that way.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
That's the guy that they want. That's the guy that
they want, right and they know that that guy is
gonna he will leave and doesn't care about staying. You know.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
It's like it's like that commitment we had to show
about that before. Like they it's like they're afraid of
that part of the commitment and what's really good for him.
They like to be intrigue, you know, spontaneity and all
of that stuff too, Like but who does it?

Speaker 7 (30:07):
You know?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
So it's I don't know, man, it's just God bless you.
Like you know you wanted you wanted the bad boy
growing up, and now the bad boy got a jail
record or it's in jail. Uh, he got three other
baby mamas, and now you want to settle down and
don't want to do none of the wild stuff you
did back in the day, and wondering why I don't
want you.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Yeah, this stuff sounds so unrelatable to me. All these
problems that you all.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Knew you wasn't shooting shots enough. Man, You was like
going like, oh for two, I was. I was going
like two for twenty. We were shooting in the gym.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
You know, that's not what it is. That's not what
it was.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Half court line and it might go up.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
That was not what it was. All these problems with
women like you don't you're gonna do what I say anyway,
or getting friend zoned like that, because I stopped all
of that. Man. I think it was two thousand is
when I completely changed and I wasn't getting outside of
Torrika and maybe two other girls. Man, But the friend

(31:07):
zone happened to me. But as of two thousand, none
of this stuff ever became a problem for me. It
was a girl at Winthrop. I don't want to say
a name because she's married now. But she told me, well,
I figure you're a jerk. And I was like, because
at the time, I thought I had to be nice
to girls, but every now and then I would say
something to let them know what I was really thinking.

(31:28):
And she said, you're a jerk, but it's sexy. And
then that's when I was like, huh. And I was
trying to figure out why did some of these girls
like me and I thought that they were I didn't
think they were.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Really you were nineteen years old, and though that's a
big difference. Now, try to be a try to be
a jerk to a woman in her forties.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
It works perfectly fine. See that I never changed, and
all I was doing with her, in her mind, me
being a jerk was just me telling the truth.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Right.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
So if you say do you miss me? I would
say no, and they'd be like, oh my god, why
would you say that to me. That's a jerk move.
And I'd be like, no, you're selfish. You're a jerk
because you asked me a yes or no question when
you only want to hear the yes. So then that
means you just asked that question to give the illusion
that you are a fair and balanced person. So you're

(32:19):
a jerk for being so manipulative. So I can I
give these kind of arguments right, and they can't refute it,
So it works just fine. Now It's been working for
me great over the last fifteen or so years. But
I started. I first noticed it when that girl said
that to me, and I've really begun to lean into
it over the last fifteen years or so.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I got a family member that said the same thing
to me, and it's like he was on some a
I just be saying some of the wildest stuff sometimes,
you know, and to see what will happen. And the
crazy thing is is like some of the even as
our young crazy thoughts that we were having, girls was
having some of these same thoughts. And we were just thinking,

(32:58):
and you know, was taught by our mothers and aunts
and all that to be nice to girls and blizy block.
But these girls were wanting to do some of the
same things that we were thinking about. We were going
about it in the wrong way. So when you say
that to it, they be like, oh, and then they
intrigued because they're thinking that same thought. Now you're on
the same wavelength, and that's where that attraction comes from
I believe you know.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Every now and then I'll blurt out something sexually explicit
just to see what will happen.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
And to Mario's point, like that forty year old woman
will be the same she was like, boy, look at you.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
You don't want none of this. You ain't ready for
none of that, boy, young man or whatever. Whatever. I
think forty something so I think.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Is the women that you' all be talking to them.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
No, I've never had a problem being honest with women.
And if they don't like it, I make them like.
I make them like it.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, I got you. All right, we're going to come back.
We're going to talk about when they use him as
a backup plan.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
To Little Boys.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Forecast Media Radio Network. We're talking about how good Guys
finished last. Now, this has happened to me a couple
of different times, and I didn't know that this was happening.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Uh, but uh, you ever been to backup playing for somebody.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Els now? Never that you know of that I know of, Yeah,
that I know of. I found out twice that I
was the backup playing man.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah that makeup brother, do some some resentful, spiteful stuff. Man,
When you when you find that kind of information out
like word I was the fall guy. Word yeah, word
yeah I had.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I didn't know this that.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I don't want to say too much because I don't
want to like reveal who this was that did this man.
But like let's just say I got called up one
time somebody. I thought like this was this was this
was an ex and I thought that they were just
calling up to just catch up a little bit and
stuff like that. And then started asking me all these

(35:10):
questions and all this type of stuff. And then like
I started putting two and two together after like the
third or fourth question, and I was like, you must
have broke up with dude. And then she yeah, confirmed
that and then I and then I didn't say this
to her, but it registered with me real quick. This
ain't happening, bro, Like you're not about to come to

(35:31):
me now like after like you know, like try to
have me like you know a lot into a situation
and stuff, where like you was like, oh, I know
he always going to like have feelings for me, and
then I could come whenever I feel like it, Like nah,
you're getting the middle finger, and like.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
But if you notice it that fast, you shouldn't you
should have went to play a mode like oh, okay,
wrong answer.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Sometimes you know I didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I didn't say well, I just I just I just
was I continue with the conversation and stuff.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Man.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But like I was, I was sitting there kind of furious, bro,
because I'm like, nah, this this, this, this ain't how it's.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Supposed to go down.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Man, Like you think because I'm a good dude, that
you could just come back into my life whenever you
feel like it.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Man out of here, man.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
And I know everybody get confused sometimes with our with
our point of views, but you know we we are.
We are some some older gentlemen that we go back
and forth through our thoughts between.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
When we were younger and what we would do now.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
But but back then, she would have got played Broye.
I would have played her for the fool, like okay, word,
I see what you're doing here, you know, and this
guy ain't gonna be there right then, yo.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I was, And I was in another relationship at that point,
and like you know what I'm saying, So like I
was just being friendly anyway, man, Like you know what
I mean, because like what she didn't know was that
like my interest like was done. Yeah, and at that point, man,
like I mean, it was just over. Man.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
So like you said, we move on pretty quickly from
situations like that, and like when your interest is done,
it's just that. Now, if that relationship you were in
didn't work out, then she could be a fun girl
and that would be it. I wouldn't see nothing developing
out of that because you already tried to play me
for the food. I wouldn't see myself going into a
relationship with you like that, you know. But we can

(37:23):
go hang out, have fun. And since you think you
got me on the string, then you're going to be
food in the end.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah, yeah, I would think you want to smash. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
I think for the most part, man, just they take
what they can get. So if it's yeah, a smash,
then yeah, we'll take that. We're not like, we're not
gung ho on. Oh it's all or nothing, no, whatever
I can get, you know, to like Q said, switching

(37:55):
you know her turn her into a fun girl, switching
into you know, play a mode per se. If you
respect this person at first to the point where it's
like no, I want I want a wife, you I
want I want to be in a relationship. But then
once you see that like, oh she has those those
whole tennessees too, and she's she's willing to give you

(38:19):
a piece of a pie without having to go to distance,
then yeah, that's when that's when your mindset shifts and
you treat her like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, I don't know, have y'all have y'all haven't been
the backup plan that you know of.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Thought each other's back up plan. I think I think
it happens more often when you're in a relationship and
they're in a relationship and you're not completely happy in
your situation and they're not completely happy. But I think
on both sides, you're just waiting on that confirmation or

(38:55):
you know, somebody to make that first move and be like, look,
I'm done and when it's over, like me and you
need to try this out. Similar to the Jeff Bezos
and what's the name Sanchez? Oh woman, that's kind of
how that situation unfolded, But.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
That's more of a mutual build. I don't think that's
a backup you know what I'm saying. I guess if
you're friends and this is if you're discussing that, that's
kind of different. And it's a respect the fact that hey,
we're in this relationship and I'm not trying to do
nothing outside of that. And but I don't know, some
people look at that differently.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
All Right, we're gonna come back and we're going to
talk about how they end up playing the victim to
keep you trapped in a toxic situation when you're the
nice guy.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
Or the full length version of The Good Old Boys
Radio Show. Follow us on bigs Clown. We'll check us
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finish last.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And I don't know if I've dealt with this, but
I definitely have been in like some top.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Situations before where like.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
They try to like make you feel bad about stuff
or like playing like the victim, and and you know
that like that this relationship ain't working right, but you're
the nice guy, so like they'll they'll they'll like play
the victim, and like you feel like I can't leave her,

(40:25):
you know what I mean, I gotta go right. I
think that that's something that only happens to good dudes, man,
because because because the Wizards of the World would be like, well, nope,
I'm leaving.

Speaker 7 (40:40):
Yeah, that's how you were saying.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Right close, one man saying that other song man he
said what he say, the good girls ain't no fun
and a bad girl ain't no good.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the facts, the facts. Yeah yeah,
I don't know, man, Like I just think that, like, uh,
you know, just from from my experience and relationships and stuff. Man,
like oft the times, Man, I hate saying this man oftentimes, Man,
when when it's a good guy, like one of we, uh,

(41:19):
of the problem that arise comes from them, not us.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
Oh yeah, that that baggage, that luggage that come along.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
And then it's cause that you ain't you ain't you
ain't scarred, you ain't you ain't cause that damage.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
Right, it doesn't take for you.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
What does it take for you to not be a
good guy anymore? When what what happens to cause that shift?

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I don't, I don't. I don't stop being a good dude.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
Man, I wouldn't. I just wouldn't either.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
I'm just not going to be the good dude to you.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Like, change faster, you learn to recognize that the bs
faster and sift through it, and you know, you learn
how to that better and and just recognize real for
what you know, for what it is you know, and
just hey, keep it moving, looking for something else that's cool.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Hope you find it, mama.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, that's that's my biggest issue.

Speaker 9 (42:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
It's like, you know, like, uh, I'm not going to
change who I am, man like simply because you can't.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
You know, like you you you you don't appreciate what
it is that I am. I'm just going to go
and find somebody that does.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Again, when you're a younger person, it makes you that
initial hurt and that stem makes you want to be
cold hearted than and take that baggage onto the next
woman when you shouldn't. You know, I ain't saying you shouldn't,
but you you should learn how to to deal with
it within yourself and then move on.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
And that's how you do it.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
Man.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
It wasn't you, It was that other person.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah, you know, and just kind of carry it on
and still continue to be you, but just learn to
vet better and recognize what's in front of you.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Honestly, I recall trying to be a bad guy, like,
you know, getting mad and then be like, okay, man,
every woman is going to suffer now, and like and
then I just could never bring myself to be that person, man,
because you know, Berdie May didn't raised me like that.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Man.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Yeah, I didn't say every woman was going to suffer,
But I remember getting out of a relationship and saying,
I ain't about to do this again. I don't care,
I ain't about to go here no more, you know.
But it's at the end of the day. I think
we all, like you know, like and or love companionship
as humans. We all want it, you know, but at
the saying that we don't know how to handle it
sometimes and what to do with it. But we all

(43:32):
want it at the end of the day, right And
if you don't, if you say you don't, yeah, you're
a fool. You you're missing something, or you really been hurt.
You've been sad with a spear dang.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Man, Well, I think it's safe to say that of
the good old boys, Wiz is not a good old boy.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Wiz is a lady.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
I'm not mean, I'm justest blunt. It's not even blunt,
it's just honest to me. I mean, I don't think
answering the question of two plus two? What is it equal?
You say four? That's not blunt, that's just the truth.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Name is g r.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
If you if you ask me does this make me
look fat? And I say yes? Is that blunt?

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Is that mean? No?

Speaker 6 (44:27):
The truth? How does it mean if somebody says are
you black? And they say yes? Is that now mean?
Are they racist because they are white? And they said it?

Speaker 4 (44:38):
No, you're not supposed to say you look fat if
she asked you that question straight like, I think you
had a a.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
It's something that looks better on you and ridiculous, ridiculous.
Why do I have it? Why should we be this ridiculous?
Why not ask me? Is there anything else better that
looks that I should wear? You said, does this make
me look fat? So you told me you want a
yes or no? It does?

Speaker 7 (45:01):
It doesn't situate your curves as well as another dress?

Speaker 6 (45:05):
Or well, then you shouldn't have asked me yes and
no question.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Well, that's we're gonna wrap things up.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
The best thing to do is if you find somebody
that is trying to take advantage of your kindness, man,
just leave man, dog, come out.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
We contact grand wiz and idiot. He'll give you the
most during answer.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Yeah, dog them out man, call up the homies and
be like, let's try some group stuff.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Oh no.

Speaker 9 (45:36):
That take your time, don't rush. I'm hear that song
said maybe I'm a dog Mundy and we'll see you
on the radio next week.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
Can we out this funky thing?
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