April 23, 2025 • 46 mins
Another couple may be derailing after Usher has gone viral again while serenading fans at his concert. Dok and Larry P speak on what do you do as a man when your woman is getting personal with Mr. Raymond. Tune in to this week's edition of The Unemployment Line.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Push play pods dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You are now tuned into the most ignorant podcasts in America.
This is the uneplumbing line. I'm the d okay and
I'm sitting here with my main man, Larry P. What
you got to say, my man?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, I'm just waiting. Know you're talking about this Cary
Hillster thing, because, like I said, you gotta go a
Carrey Hillster things. What's car hissl What type of.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
You remember swagger Jack who was in college?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, it was kind of I mean it was good
for the time.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well, I was just thinking, I like thinking back to college.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like at the time, there was a scene when we
were like in college where they were like recapping the
disagreement between Beyonce and Carrie Hilson.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right, there was a comparison Beyonce Cary Hilson. Yes really yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Why I'll give you names off air, but like they
was like, you know, everybody was doing that little performance
or whatever. But long story short, back in like two
thousand and eight ish, to.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The best of Mine had like irreplaceable and all you can.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And then she came back with like I'm a diva,
because I'm a diva was responsible, so.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
She was going and she was battling Beyonce for real.
Carry Hilson, Yeah, yeah, Carry had what was the I'm
so oblivious to this. I didn't know this was going on.
I had the song I like Carry Hilson too. She
had pretty Girl rocking out them joints. Uh huh, pretty
girl rock Uh. She had that joint with Kanye and
(01:36):
on them she had yeah, knock you Down. She had that,
she had dang, I can't name no more.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Whatever the song was.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Carry Hilson had a song out and then she did
a remix to that same song, and on the remix,
apparently Carrie Hilson made some comments about Sierra it wasn't
knock you down.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It wasn't knock you down, because she did remiss that one,
turning me on oh doomah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So then it was like a turn of me on
remix that apparently she like, I didn't really like that song.
He took some jobs, and then Beyonce responded with like
I'm a diva, and you know that was.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Ah, that is such a weird. That is a weird
beat to have because if you Carry Hilson and you're
taking a shot at Beyonce, like, ah, this is one thing.
This is one thing. Like when it comes to rap,
R and B music general, right, I understand you have
(02:39):
to have some level of confidence to get to the
level you are, but there's a point where that confidence
has to meet reality, you know what I mean? Like,
and I love it in the rap game because all
these rappers be like, I'm the greatest rapper alive, I'm
the greatest rapper live. Jay Z says it little when
he says it, you're cool. Big Sean says, it's like
Big Sean. Let's be real, come on, now you're good
(03:02):
that brother.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Wait, second shot, Sean, the greatest, Sean, the greatest, really,
come on, Big Sean.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So I love it. I love the confidence. Carrie Hilson
versus Beyonce, I can understand how that can happen. But
I think at some point you got like if you
would have said Carrie Hilson versus Keisha Ko, I would
have been like, yeah, that's a good beef.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So at the time we you know, fifteen plus years ago,
everyone was of the response that you're giving like like
carry Hilson, Wow, and why is yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
There? So recently we got we got some new beef.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There was a there was an interview on the Breakfast
Club or Carrie Hilson was explaining like because they asked her.
It was just like, yeah, I didn't want to record that.
I didn't I didn't write that. They made me say it,
and it was just like, hey, either you sing what
we tell you to sing, or we not putting your
music out. And so like that's what has emerged like
(04:04):
several years later, and if you think about it, in
the hindset, Carry Hilson came out was hot, and then
like we just really didn't hear much about her anymore.
And it was because like the be have to go
and you go against Beyonce, You're gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Which is funny because I remember beefs like that. You
know what I'm saying. You got the Prince Versus Michael
Jackson beef right and the Who's Bad video Princess Wow,
It's like who's Butter's Who's yo? Yo? But is mine?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Michael Jackson was supposed to say. Michael Jackson was supposed
to Prince was supposed to be in the Who's Bad video?
Michael Jesson was supposed to say the line your butt
is mine? Who's he was supposed to say it to Prince,
and Prince was like, no, because who's butt you're talking about?
And that's I could, I could. I can appreciate that, beef.
It was Michael Jackson versus Prince at the time, so
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it's like, who you talking to? You ain't talking toot.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I was also watching I was in a we made
rabbit hole where somebody was talking about r KL and
Usher on the.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Same girl and it's like.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Both parts and then they sent it to Usher and
then Usher recorded the part he that y'all heard in
the song, and the RK was just he recorded the
wrong part. And it was just like, well, that's the
party took. So you're trying to tell me you think
Usher can take my girl, that's what you're telling me.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
R Kelly was upset. Now R Kelly also was a psychopath,
but that's true. He had let's let's let's let's not
go past that. But but the Carrie Hilton Beyonce thing,
that's interesting, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think the thing that's most interesting to me though,
is like when you know something that is morally wrong
or you don't agree with something, but you don't have
any control over the situation, Like what do you do
like I think the noble thing would be. I don't
agree with that. I'm not recording it. But the truth
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of the matter is sometimes we're putting situations where we
have to do things that we do not agree with.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, yeah, I think. I think. I think morally you
can't say morally versus you can say ethically. I think
ethically the right thing will be able to do. Morally,
when you go down to morals, you go down to
a different level because morally you have to think what's
morally right to you. Because apparently what's right to me
is taking care of my pockets. And if they tell
me if they cut the check, and they tell me
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to say this, and I ain't really got no beef
with Beyonce, but they telling me if I cut this check,
I get If I say these lines, I get this check,
I'm gonna say them lines. I look more so on
the music industry, if she said, they made her say it,
that versus them. Basically, they're trying to create a competition
to Beyonce versus let the competition be created itself. And
(06:45):
I think that's the one thing about music you gotta
let happen. You know what, I'm saying, nobody put Rihanna
versus Beyonce versus. They try to. No, no, no, no,
they try to. But you gotta also understand the fans
are going to create it.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
For they're trying to put Kelly against Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You know, but the fans are going to create it first.
You know, as a fan Atlanta Falcons fan, I would
say this, and a lot of Atlanta Falcons fans will
not say this, and they will probably go under the
grave without saying this. But I'll be honest with it.
Everybody when they came out with like all of Julio
Jones comparison, think about Julio Jones era, right, Like Julio
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Jones versus Antonio Brown, Julio Jones versus DeAndre Hopkins, Julio
Jones versus you know, whatever other receiver was, you know,
whatever was hot at the time, right, And it's kind
of like everybody was trying to say Julio Jones was
a guy, but who's just like Julio Jones. And I'm like, now,
nobody ever compared Julio Jones and Mike Evans, And Mike
Evans might be a bigger dog than Julio Jones and
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nobody will admit that as a Falcons fan.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, isn't Mike Evans like after Julio Jones, Mikevins. Mike
Evans is before and after because Mike Evans came into
the league. Mike Evans played with like Johnny Manzel in college. Though,
wasn't I think Julio was in the league before him?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
What was he? Now that's a research you know, I
never got my phone. But if Mike Jones, I mean,
Mike Evans is after, then yeah, that proves my point
even more. I'll give you the answer, all right, give
me the answer, so I could, I could say I'm
right because I sound it wrong just now, I'm just feeling.
I'm just feeling airtime because no, no, no, no, go ahead,
go ahead and go ahead and let me know how
(08:20):
if I'm right, because I don't. I don't want to.
Just you know, when did he get drafted?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Julio Jones was drafted in twenty eleven and Mike Mike
Evans was drafted in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So that makes it even worse because Julio Jones had
multiple Julio Jones was a monster, right, Mike Evans was
a consistent monster. And I think when it boils down
to like consistency when it comes to competition, I think
it's more so who's consistent at the monster. I think
that's the reason why we have the big Michael Jackson
Prince debate, because it's like Prince was a monster, but
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Michael Jackson was consistently a monster. I think the reason
why we have these debates, though, is because comparison is
the thief of joy. Oh, no matter what happens, our
brains are, for whatever reason, wired to compare people who
are in similar fields to one another.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But it's the fastest way to get clicks is to
say the top ten anything of any time period, Like,
it's the quickest way they get clicks on anything.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
We used to do top fives a lot when we
were now our top fives were realistic, though, nah our
top fives. That's the only thing. That's the only thing
I would say with comparisons. I think comparisons are the
biggest thief of joy. But I think realistic comparisons are
actually acceptable. And I think that's the issue that we
have in today's society. In every society, it's always wants
(09:45):
to compare, compare, comparison Ariana Grande is the new Mariah
Carris versus why she can't just be Ariana Grande. Everybody
has to be the new something. It's like, oh, Bruno
Marris is the new Prince. You know what I'm saying, But.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You also talked about the new But I also don't
want to miss the comparison. What I'm saying, the comparison
Whitney and Mariah did a song together intentionally because at
the time there was all of this like media circus
surrounding and who got better vocals but on Mariah. But
I feel like there's a respectful, realistic comparison that you
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can give because I feel like, just like you say
the good and the bad on the last week's show
that we talked about, I think the reason why you
can root for the underdog is because you always have
somebody else to root for the top.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That's the whole thing with like the Drake and Kendrick beef.
The reason why the Drake and Kendrick beef is so
big is because Drake has been at the top for
so long and the Kendrick fans who are like it
really boils down to like the down of like real
hip hop versus New Age of hip hop. I'm saying
Kendrick ain't wrong. I'm saying Drake ain't ro. Drake has
learned the New Age of hip hop and he has
channeled that to be like the women and I can,
(10:53):
I can, I can sing y'all and rap y'all at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But I think also that the Kendrick and Drake thing
will become a situation of playing the results, because you know,
if you go back to like Muhammad Ali and Joe Fraser,
like historically we look at that situation as Muhammad Ali
is the greatest of all time and Joe Fraser like
he was just one of his many victims along along
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the way.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
In actuality, they.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Were both like. But it's respect it's respectful comparisons, That's
what I say. It's like Tom Brady versus Patrick Mahomes, Like,
oh okay, if Patrick Mahomes beats Tom Brady, that's the
best way to pass off the throne.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Better comparison though, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. When you
look at Tom Brady and Peyton Manning at the time, it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Was neck and neck.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, in hindsight, it was just like Tom Brady won,
so we look at it like, oh, well, Tom Brady is.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The Golden Pager. That's why I sating here somewhere respectful comparisons.
I'm not mad at the Michael Jackson Prince consparracy. I'm
not mad at Whitney Houston. Michael Jackson and Prince were
both up here. I'm not mad at Whitney Houston versus
Mariah Carey at the time, they were both there. Harry
Kilston versus Beyonce. That's where I'm like, That's why I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Pointing out to you. It was in Beyonce's I'm a
Diva era. It wasn't in Beyonce's greatest performer of our generation.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Well, the thing about Beyonce, though, The thing about Beyonce
is you have to rap Beyonce off of errors if
you think about the greatness of Beyonce, come on, bro.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
But Beyonce was just coming out of a group.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Nah were still that was still Hindsightce just did that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
She was in Destiny's Child. Now she's going solo. Let's
see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Carryosen is coming into the game as a solo artist.
It was still like kind of it wasn't Yonce here
it was still it was a tear down, but Beyonce ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But Beyonce still had Pool in the game, and you
want to watch he a Pool in the game because
she was linked to jay Z. Jay Z had been
in the game what since ninety nine, ninety eight, ninety seven,
jay Z jay Z is another good comparison in hindsight,
if you think, but that's the thing, She's already jay
Z's already been compared from jay Z to his NAS.
Jay Z went through the NAS debate the whole time
right before, by the time he met Beyonce, it was
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so by the time being.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Jase, when jay Z and NAS's trajectory started, Yeah, NAS
was clearly in the lead.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, in hindsight, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Like, golly, that's crazy how jay Z was trying to
bully Nods.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So then so then.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Time it was more like Nah, it was like Naza's head.
Jay Z caught up when they really had their beef.
There was probably about at the same level NAS pulled
a head. And I would say in conclusion of that
debate between the two of them, jay Z is probably
finishing higher.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Than jay Z is the winner. Jay Z is the
definite winner. Of the nas jay Z Beef. But then
we have jay Z going where he is, and then
beyond this upcoming star of Beyonce, and then Beyonce ties
her name to jay Z and then Carry Hilton comes out. Yeah,
Beyonce just breaking off her own but like I said,
she was irreplaceable, and she was saying irreplaceable too.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Jay Z, but also realizing that it wasn't like Carry
Hilson wasn't out there doing songs with Kanye.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean, I understand what Carrie Hilson been doing. But
by the time Carrie Hilsey King he got her about
the paint, Carry Hilson was gone. Because as I've always
told people, Beyonce is the head of the Illuminati. She
wasn't then. But sometimes you understand the story is what
a star is. And Carrie Hilson, although she was just
coming into the paint and Beyonce was going into her
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own little lane. Carry Hilson ain't never made bills, bill bills,
Cary Hilson ain't never made say my name. I think
at the end of the day, if you look at
but no, I think, but I also think if you
look at groups going into solo careers, you got Queen,
Freddie Mercury, you got a new addition, and Ralph you
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got uh you know, I mean, you got all these
different lanes where like the solo, the lead singer did
not go off to do a very good job on them.
Beyonce was the lead singer of Destiny Shall Beyonce is
the lead singer of R and B right now. I
think she made the perfect transition to have a lead
singer and the lead singer went on to do big,
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but they ain't go on to be Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, And I think sometimes nobody went on to Beyonce
except for Miguel Jackson.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And that's what I'm saying. But Jackson was the least
singer to Jackson. But that's what I'm saying. I think
you have to respect what it is. I think you
have to respect Beyonce for being Beyonce, because if you
look beyond, you got it. These are these are three people,
four people, four people you have to respect in the
music industry today, and you have no choice but respecting
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whether you like or Beyonce. Chris Brown, Lil Wayne.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
An Usher speaking of us, shir when we come back,
we want to talk about respect.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That's doping plumba.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And we're back right on the undeployment line, Doc and
Larry P who are having a debate about UH artists.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
So what we have a discussion about artists, you.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Know, longevity, just about the test of time.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But then then you you made a point that made
me realize something about a story that I feel like
it's litter been debunked. But it led to a question
I had for you as men who you know who
date women or married.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Men at date women? Okay, I'll take it a heterosexual.
It really made me.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
This story stuck out to me when I thought it
was accurate. Special reces like the accuracy of the story
does not shift my thought process.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So there was a lady at an Usher concert.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right, and this came up before with like Keky Palmer
with USh had Kiki on the stage.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I should be doing, I mean at the end of
the day, man, when so all right, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead, I know you're going with this, and I
follow up very well.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So short Usher at his concerts, will you know go
And normally it's like there goes my baby. He was
singing that to them, and you know, women be getting
like real, real close to Usher.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
My baby, why are you singing about another another woman?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And some of these women be buried, some of these
women be having boyfriends or whatever. And so the way
that the story circulated was a woman has gotten divorced
as a result of her interactions with Usher at her
at his concert. And originally I was just like, Wow,
that's crazy, But then I also realized, I've heard enough
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stories about women whiling when they're out of town that
would leave me to believe that I would understand if
a man is that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So let's look at it from an Usher perspective, right
from the Usher. I'm not blaming the Usher. I'm not
blaming the Usher, but let's look at it from this perspective.
A man goes to a strip c love mm hmm.
A man pays for lap dance, lap dance is very,
very very very into it, into it. Lap dance? Is
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that worthy of a divorce? The question is where is
the line? Where is the line? But you're sending her
to an Usher concert, so you already knowsher. Usher done
messed up the whole Kiky Palmer situation. Right, there's still
but there's still a line. But there there is a
line that's like a bachelor bachelore party line. But I
think the only issue with the vacation I think I
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think the issue with the Usher situation is that the Usher,
the Usher line is recorded you you wouldn't know the
line if you if you never saw it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And this goes back to dark core philosophies of life
one and two. Don't be out here key keying in
your woman's face. Don't have her out here looking stupid.
Video will have you out here looking stupid.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, this is this is another thing that I say, Uh,
if you talk about go to the key key, this
is hilarry philosophy of don't go digging for Dirk you
expect them to find because in my mind, if you
send your girl to an Usher concert, you know your
girl going to Usher concert. If you see video circulating
like the Usher concert in Charlotte, why would you look
at those videos because you're like, oh, is my girl
(19:40):
on this video? What a girl on this video? What
is the what is.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
The probability though, like the Usher concerts.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
In the stadium, what is the likelihood that is your
girl and your girl like your girl's not a celebrity.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Your girls not one one out of every girl there.
But you know, but you know what, you know what
one out of every girl there that let's say one
out of every girl there is one out of every
guy that could be dating them. That's one out of
every guy in Charlotte that could be watching that video.
But do you want to be that guy? Of where
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is the line? Because? See?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Because what what is it? What's a great movie? There's
a great movie. I would say it's a great movie.
It's a great movie concept called hall pass.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And go to the Usher concert with your girl if
that's the bigger if it's that big of a deal,
If it's that big of a deal, go to the
concert with it fair.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But I will also say this as a sports fan,
I'm a big San Francisco forty nine Ers fan. Right
the San Francisco forty nine ers are now like a
playoff game or the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But our women at San Francisco forty nine games like
putting cherries on your tongue. Follow I'm following you follow me?
All right, I'm following.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Let me follow Am I going to enjoy this event
as much with someone who's not as big of a fan.
So I could go to an Usher concer with my
old lady. Because I'm a big Usher fan. I'm gonna
know the songs. I'm gonna enjoy the songs. I'm gonna
be into it. You know, it's whatever. But if I go,
if I'm gonna go to a concert for an artist
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whose music I'm not familiar with, like, I'm not gonna
enjoy it as much like I'm gonna be damaging her
good time. So there is a proper possibility that I right, well,
you worried about your Usher doing something of.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Your girl, go with her, But what if you don't
like Usher music like that? And I think that boils
down to something in Portland. As you said, if you
worry about Usher doing something to your girl, if you
worry about Usher doing something to your girl like it
should be, you should already have a thought process at
this point because at the end of the day, either
I'm going to the Usher concert to enjoy the concert
with my girl, or I know my girl going to
an Usher concert. Is she gonna be She may be
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one out of the million girls that may get chosen
by Usher. Now if she does something with that guy,
that's gonna be based on the type of relationship we have,
because we may have a relationship where I've seen a
lot of girls maybe a to like flirt with another
guy or say like another guy was fine or another
guy was this, and their man is cool with that
because they are very confident within their relationship that they
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know that that girl just at the end of the day,
she's still a woman.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But it's also one of two things happening here. Either A,
you as a man recognized that I'm a beautiful woman
that usher might come over and flirt with.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean, you got to understand that if you got
that B or.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
B, I'm a very insecure man, and I'm concerned about
my wife or girlfriend leaving the house in any situation.
Either way, it goes back to what you were saying.
If that's what you were concerned was, you probably should
have been had the concert.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well you say either way, and I think both of
those couldn't exist in the same space. Oh well that too,
and I think you could be insecure to the point
even if you was like a football athlete. I honestly
think like a lot of like the most professional or
most like attractive men and women love are probably sometimes
the most insecure because they try to feel figure out
why this woman don't want them versus the next woman.
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And then when they finally do get a woman that
they feel like it's out of their lead that they
probably couldn't get, they kind of doubt themselves. Then they
feel like they don't deserve the woman that they with.
So then that's when the insecurity started kicking in, saying like, well, shoot,
she probably flirting with other men, and she probably doing this,
she probably doing that. And then that's where you start
looking for dirt and you finally find it because at
the end of the day, no probably reasons she probably
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flirting with other men, it's probably because you ain't flirting
with her.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
But then also to jump back though, I feel like
not to encourage my old lady to go out there
and like frolic with us what I'm saying, but what
I will say is as a man, like I'm looking
at the situation like, you know, what if my old
lady was like, was someone who was enough to grab
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this major artist's attention to be on video or whatever,
it's just like all right, cool, Like, you know, I
hope she had a good But there are also times
in which I feel like people are disrespectful to their relationship.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And what they do when they be out here in
these streets. All I know is if if my lady
at an Usher concert and I catch my lady on
camera doing some freaky stuff for Usher, then that best
mean she coming back to the bedroom and doing ten
times more freaky. That's all I'm saying. What That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Look, I feel like you are missing the point all getting.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
All I'm saying is, look, if I didn't watch you
on camera, everybody, but oh you see I freaking the
girl was a Usher, And I'm thinking, like, damn, she
do that at home. She's doing it at home, Because
that's what you also got to realize the one girl
that every man is lusting over, Like you know, you
watch videos and watch comments and then b dudes being
the comments like oh what about a girl, Oh look
(24:48):
at that girl, Oh what's the girls at? Oh what's
I mentioned? Just imagine being the one guy with that girl,
with everybody asking for her mentioned, and all she want
to do is be freaky with you.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And see, this is one of the things I don't trust,
like and I don't have this level of ego, but
I also like I see this perspective.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Like for me, I will.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Maybe it's just me, Like I like the idea of
like me and my wife enter a room and like
other dudes just.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Be like I think every I think going on right there.
I think every guy should be be be relationship or
sexually comfortable with the fact that they got a good
looking woman and other men are going to want that.
And I think, honestly, I feel like if you don't
feel that about your woman, then you need to find
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another one, because I feel like that makes every relationship better.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Be what the person that don't nobody else.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Want, Like, I don't want to be like I want
to be like when when I when my girl tell
me she going out to have some drinks, I'm thinking, like, dang,
other dudess gonna try to buy her drinks? Huh. But
in my mind I'm thinking like shoe they say, what's
both money?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You know. But at the same time, I know my
girl ain't the type of girl that's just gonna be
taking drinks from random guys.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
But then that's where it goes back to the idea
of respect too. So but that's your lady goes out
with her girls, they out here having a good time.
A couple of dudes come over. They having a party like, hey,
I'm gonn probably all around the shots or whatever. All right,
all right, that's cool, like s everybody has a different line.
This is my line, all right, my old ladies out
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with her girls. Dude comes over, says he's gonna buy
him around the shots.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Dude comes over and says he's gonna buy him another
round of shots.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Cool. All right, so the second now, the second round
the shots. You're tripping, bro, No no, no, no, no
no no wait wait wait wait wait. As the man
of the group, As the man of the group, you
got to understand how men work. You gotta understand how
men work. And it's it's me as a man of
the group. If there's one person in the group, I'm
trying to highlight, I will, I will, I will buy
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shots for every body. Let me just get to that one.
Let me if I'm the man and I'm in the
group with you and this man came back for the
second shots, I'm gonna say, big dog like, no, ain't
no need for no more shots. But he bought it
for the group. Though, no, I'm not. This is what
my concern.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Put them on my tab. This is my I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh if it'll fine there then yeah, that's I'm not
the girl. Yeah the second the second round, he wild.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
When that next round comes around and he's like, hey,
I'm just getting a drink just for you. And my
old lady accepts that drink. We got a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
That's that's where.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Like that's why I'm like, there has to be a
clear line, that's what.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But that's why I say, like my old lady, I
know she ain't taking that drink. She too skeptical about
like people putting stuff in your drinks and stuff like that.
So yeah, you get to doing some crazy stuff like
that already know my old lady like no, but she
gonna put she's gonna put a start to that one.
But and that's I think it was ball down to
the relationship. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
But I think that's my thing with like people being
out of town, people being out of it, Like I've
heard so many things like disintegrate over like people's decisions.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
When they were a little too carefree and like it is.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I've heard everything from we were out on a vacation
to it was my homegirls bachelor party, to we was
out at the club or we were at a concert.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You know what, all those situations lack accountability. M because
at the end of the day, as you as we
started this off with if my girl going to Usher concert,
I'm not mad at Usher. He putting on the show.
We already know what the show is.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh, I'm never I'm never mad at these.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I guess this is another way that I want to
look at it too. The reason why I say, is
the Usher situation really a divorceable or break up situation?
Because it's cheating really a breakup a divorcable situation?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Because really is it?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Some some people would say that you gotta got Some
people hold cheating to be a firm none.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But you also have to realize that the level of
cheating based on the level of cheating that it is,
but it doesn't you. It's also up to you to
define what's cheating. But does does it? No? I mean
cheating is cheating, emotional cheating, emotional cheating or physical cheating,
cheatings cheating is cheating, is cheating. Some people would say
that's like saying like oh, well we we we uh.
(29:26):
The death penalty is not murder, but killing somebody's murder
Like no murders murder. No, it's just it's just off
ranges legally sanctioned.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Because because some people would define cheating as even having
the conversation, even entertaining.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
No, no, no, that's that's my cheating as that's micro intimacy. No,
that's micro manager. I think. I think at the end
of the day, when you know your person, if you
know your person, cheating is what cheating is. And I
think cheating is whenever you find some type of physical
or emotional bond to another person that ain't your partner,
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that's cheating. Cheating is cheating. Whether you feel that bond
emotionally you're just friends, there ain't. Now you're talking because
now you're trying to you're trying to get into specifics
of what I'm saying about bond. And we know what
bond is. If we talking about cheating and we say bond,
we know what bond is. There is a platonic bond
that you can have where cheating is not even a question.
(30:29):
We already know what it is. You know what it is.
If you know you ain't cheating, you got a platonic
bond between this person and the opposite sets, then it
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
For me is like, if you snug, you cheated you,
if you got a sneak to do it, you know
you wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I won't even say that. I won't even say that
because I think send of you messages and you feel
compelled to delete them. Yeah, now I will say that.
I will say that. I will say that that is
a definite rule of thumb for a lot of men.
I don't know if it worked the same way for women.
And but if you, if you ask yourself, ask yourself,
(31:06):
if my men crazy? Why are there not even that?
Not even that? Not even that? If you, if you
ask yourself, this is what cheated is to me. If
you ask yourself, if my man or my woman was
to grab my phone and go through Instagram, Facebook messages
and test messages and phone calls, and if I had
a reason to delete anything, then you got to ask
(31:28):
yourself at my cheating? Or is my relationship just that
unstable that my partner is just insecure with whoever I
talk to? Those are two places you gotta ask yourself,
and that's where a lot of relationships fell to.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
When we come back, I want to talk a little
bit more about security. It's not the plumbing line and
(32:18):
we're back right now on the underplommed line, Doc and
Larry P talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Hey, I saw what you did. That was kind of crazy,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
When we're talking about in the break and I was
just intro Yeah, I was just thinking about this as
we were just talking on the previous segment about Usher,
and uh, like your old somebody's old lady.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
This is all out here in securities. I'm mooching with Usher.
Insecurities of a man's really what the topic of this topic,
this this, this, this conversation is fair. But what I
was just thinking about when we was doing the break was.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Sometimes we project what we would do in this situation
onto the person that we're in a relationship with. And
so I could understand why a man would get upset
about the old lady being like like nose to nose
with us er because they know, like if it was
(33:23):
them knows the nose with whatever beautiful.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
R and b rap talent it could be, they would
fold immediately.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
But you also but then you also got to think
about it from the perspective of men versus women. And
I think we've said this years ago on the Larry
P Show or the Unemployment Not whatever it was at
the time. And I think I have to always tell
myself this constantly when I think about like women versus men,
mars versus venus, whatever you want to call it. Men.
(33:56):
If men cheat physically, it doesn't mean much, but if
men cheat emotionally, it means everything. Women, if they cheat emotionally,
it don't mean much, but if they cheat physically, it
means everything. And I think in your example, what you're
(34:18):
saying is men are watching women emotionally cheat because they've
had this emotional connection to Usher Raymon. And when you
see a woman at an Usher concert doing the things
with Usher, it's like, oh my god, my woman is
cheating on me. And it's not really she cheating me
because at the end of the day, physically she ain't
did nothing with them. Emotionally she is connected to him completely, but.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
She's already connected with her because it's USh.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's USh. Yeah. So at the end of the day,
like I said, you send.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It there, we undervalue the impact that music or even
entertainment has in our lives.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
There's a reason why these people make a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Like when you when somebody can make you feel something,
and that person who's making you feel something you don't
even know them.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
You know what I got for you?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
That's that is significant.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And you know what I got for you. And I
told you this before we even started this show. I
think we was talking about it before the show started.
And a lot of men when they get in marriages
and relationships, they fail to recognize the fact that they
ain't the first man and they woman being with. When
you watch your woman at an Usher concert and you
see her going through all these moments, you were realizing
(35:31):
that whenever those Usher showns came out, whenever those moments
speak to her, that it's speaking to her she may
be reliving a moment with somebody else. Especially if you
all you make is sets music. Just imagine how many
times that this girl may have had sets to Usher.
You know what I'm saying, it's seven o'clock on the
(35:52):
I mean, you know what I'm saying. Tell me to us,
those are just words I.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Want to get freek that might have been, that might
have been with her and her like high school or
college crush.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Like to them, like we like where we like at
seven o'clock in the drop top cruise in the streets,
We're like, oh yeah, you know, I ain't never owned
no drop top, but there may have been a point
in her life where she was in the drop Top
at seven o'clock. Cruise right there, go ahead?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Why USh are trying to tell us that the lyrics
in them songs is different than they actually.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Are the seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, you're talking about talking about who's in the streets.
No one's ever asked that question, including Usher. That man
was like seven o'clock going to top amember drop top.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Who's in the streets? That is not Those are not
the lyrics. Usher, I think I was trying to tell
us he said a cruise in the street.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Everybody else heard cruising except Usher, Wow, that the lyrics
are who's in this.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
No, that's cruising? That's like, that's like and trying to
clear up, does it say Hollywood? So Hollywood Cole and
you know one hundred and three thousand say he said
whatever y'all wanted it to be, whatever y'all heard. Then
you got people like Lloyd, who's just lying five two
are fine too? We know he said fine too. Everybody
just heard five too. Because why would you say that, girl, Lloyd,
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you're five too? Why would that make I mean but
that would make sense. A bunch of tall girls he
can't get. So is she five too? She the same
night as him, then of course he will want her. Well,
I know you tall, but I'm okay with she's fast too,
but I want you. Yeah, Now it doesn't make sense
(37:39):
because you will want the five two girl, because why
don't you want the five two girls? She's five two?
But I want you, but I want you so fine
two has to make sense. I think that's been my
only correlation with that song. It's like, is it five
two are fine too? And I was like, why does
five to two make sense? If five two don't make sense,
then it has to be fine too? Five too don't
make sense? But back back to us. But yeah, usher,
(38:01):
and your girl, your girl is like I like I said,
I honestly, it boils down the ego. With a lot
of men in relationships, everything boils down the ego and
whatever like your And I think this also boils down
to like a lot of women growing up being single mothers,
because a lot of men really are growing up without
the image of what a man is supposed to be.
(38:22):
So when we grow up and we start dealing with
these emotions, we're dealing with those emotions based off of
what we may have seen, which, of course, if we
ain't have no dad in our life, then of course
we're gonna have female tendencies of getting jealous of our
woman at a concert with another man when it's in actuality,
when she'd be like, shoot, she come home to me.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
And see, I'm just a different breed, and I don't.
I don't want this to sound the wrong way, but.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Vacations, concerts, entertainment, your girl doing something? No, well, I'm
just about to say it's not cheat like I want you,
like if you spending money on something, I want you
to have an experience.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
If I go to a football game and it's my
favorite team playing, I really hope they won.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Let's also say this. Let's also I'm glad you put
that in perspective, because let's also say this. Usher is
not doing anything with your girl. If she bought the
four hundred dollars seats. No, if your girl bought eight
hundred thousand dollars seats, know that your girl may be
the one out of millions that gets done by Usher.
But if your girl bought the four hundred nosebleed seats ish,
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don't worry about it. Brother.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
If your girl got floor seats vip seeds at Usher,
those are the ones what you should be thinking, brother,
is boy, I should hope Usher rub up on my woman.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
That's really the concert you want to go to. You,
that's really the concert you paid for. If you know
that she if she's like, ooh the meat and Greek
is only nine to fifty and I could get the
concert tickets, you better figure out a way to get
your nine fifty.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
You spent all that money.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
If your old lady comes home from the concert and
tells you, hey, the concept was cool, like.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Ush' saying some songs like yeah, Usher got your money's worth.
But if your old lady comes home and be.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Like, hey, bad, Usher was all up on me tonight,
you know what you're Instead of getting jealous, what you
should think about is.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
That was a good investment, you know, really enjoyed. That's
all I'm saying is if Usher up on your girl
and your girl turned Usher down, just realize you got
yourself something that you shouldn't have. You out of your
league at this point, brother, And I think that's what
some men don't want to admit and see, and that's
and that's a great point. You out of your league, buddy,
I think dudes, you should to the mindset of in
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order to have the woman that you want, you gotta
be out here dating women that's out of your league
in order for the which case you should always be
on point in expecting these things to happen. In order
for a man to successfully believe be in a relationship
with a woman is that he has to continuously thirk
for his woman. And the only way that you can
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continuously thirst for your woman for the rest of your
life is for your woman to essentially be out of
your league. So a lot of men take a lot
of shots that they're not supposed to take, and the
ones that do land, they got to hold on to
that because guess what, buddy, the love that you are
pouring into that woman right now, you're gonna continue to
pour into that woman because you're gonna realize she don't
got to be with me.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
And it's also the only motivation for a lot of
the things that women expect us as men to do,
Like women be out there asking us to like take
care of their car, take care of y'all, make sure
like all of the like the if anything breaks the ouse,
you gotta take care of it.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
And guess what, it's one horny dude that's just sitting
around just waiting for her to ask it, and guess
what you want. One thing. I think that's what one
thing about comfortable men in relationships that we take for granted,
we take for granted the power of horny men. Horny
men will do a lot before even getting even a sniff.
(42:00):
Dey be looking at it like, hey, they will. They
will cut the grass, they will clean the yard. You
need me to change out your alternate. They will clean
the oven, they will, they will trim the edges, they
will they will do a whole lot of stuff just
to even get close to the point of she put
a head on my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I got these solar panels and the eight solar panels
in this eighteen wheeler. I can put them on your
house and decrease your electric bill. So are you do
you have a CDL No?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
But I just will could. I just want every man
in the world that is in a nice relationship with
a good looking woman to realize the strength of horny men.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
And I want every man to and I won't I
want adjusted to my scale. But what I will say
is if you look at your girlfriend, fiance wife and
not thinking to yourself, she is really really attractive. You
need to operate in such a manner that there's always
a dude lingering in the chair.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Nah Na, not that, not that you mess up, Not
that there's always a dude. If you are really in
this situation and you'd be like, hey, my girl really
look good, like if she get done up, you know
what I'm saying, Not even if she get done up,
if it's just a random look good. It's a random
day that she puts sweats on, she washed her face,
put some lotion on and there, you know what I'm saying,
(43:22):
put put her hair in a nice little body, and
you're like, God, this girl look good as hell. If
you think that, just realize there's ten other dudes I
think that as well. You dots it one. I want
you all to understand that it's ten. Whenever your girl
go out somewhere, it's ten guys that try to holler
her all the time, whether it's ten guys that actually
physically speak to her or ten guys that look at her.
(43:44):
Because you got to think about even from a man's perspective.
How many times you see a girl you'd be like, dang,
she look good, but you keep moving cause you're like, oh,
I'm in a relationship. So it's ten to look at it.
Maybe two or three that take a shot. That shoot,
they shot. But while she walking around and she's just
trying to get the garlic bread out the frozen section
and food line, just realize it's a couple of men
(44:05):
that doubled backed on a couple of hours and said
hold them now, who that was? It went down the
aisle because you ain't there? And then think about this,
what are they sliding in there? Like Usher? Yeah? Remember
when Usher was like in the uh in the you
got a bad video? Or do you remind me video?
But that's why I say, like a lot of times
(44:26):
even when cheating happening in relationships, especially on the man's
and you gotta look at situations like these. You know
what I'm saying, Your girl be trying to tell you
some stuff like you know what I'm saying, Gosh, I
to tell girls like man, look, I'm over here turning
down cool she's living right, I'm over here turning these girls. Now,
what do you think she doing she's been turning.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I won't even say I don't because it's not appropriate.
I think how long your old lady has been turning?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't think guys understand your old.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Lady has been turning down men far longer than you are.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
I don't thing guys understand how many dudes they woman
be turning down versus how many women we be turning.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
At her day they turned out. Third day, she gonna
pump some gas. Hey she go and get some groceries.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Hey she at work. It don't make she get home
and look at you. Women probably got I got a
man copied and pasted they into their notebook so they
could just send it to other guys. It's probably a
key word auto text. Probably know it by now. But
your little dumb self probably like what another man trying
to holler at you? And she's sitting around turning out
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every man you like, Well, I can't have any woman.
I won't. She can too, buddy, And then these special
k dudes be out there what your man got to
do with me?
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Like it's constantly your woman is used to being hollered
at all love time.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
It's like every man in a relationship forgot what it
was to be a man, not in a relationship, because
you used to be that honey guy, and you know
what extent you would have gone to YO, You got
a man.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
And if I can tell y'all nothing else on this show,
then just remember what it's like to be a
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Man's standing the point
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
You are now tuned into the most ignorant podcasts in America.
This is the uneplumbing line. I'm the d okay and
I'm sitting here with my main man, Larry P. What
you got to say, my man?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, I'm just waiting. Know you're talking about this Cary
Hillster thing, because, like I said, you gotta go a
Carrey Hillster things. What's car hissl What type of.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
You remember swagger Jack who was in college?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, it was kind of I mean it was good
for the time.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well, I was just thinking, I like thinking back to college.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like at the time, there was a scene when we
were like in college where they were like recapping the
disagreement between Beyonce and Carrie Hilson.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right, there was a comparison Beyonce Cary Hilson. Yes really yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Why I'll give you names off air, but like they
was like, you know, everybody was doing that little performance
or whatever. But long story short, back in like two
thousand and eight ish, to.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The best of Mine had like irreplaceable and all you can.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And then she came back with like I'm a diva,
because I'm a diva was responsible, so.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
She was going and she was battling Beyonce for real.
Carry Hilson, Yeah, yeah, Carry had what was the I'm
so oblivious to this. I didn't know this was going on.
I had the song I like Carry Hilson too. She
had pretty Girl rocking out them joints. Uh huh, pretty
girl rock Uh. She had that joint with Kanye and
(01:36):
on them she had yeah, knock you Down. She had that,
she had dang, I can't name no more.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Whatever the song was.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Carry Hilson had a song out and then she did
a remix to that same song, and on the remix,
apparently Carrie Hilson made some comments about Sierra it wasn't
knock you down.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It wasn't knock you down, because she did remiss that one,
turning me on oh doomah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So then it was like a turn of me on
remix that apparently she like, I didn't really like that song.
He took some jobs, and then Beyonce responded with like
I'm a diva, and you know that was.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Ah, that is such a weird. That is a weird
beat to have because if you Carry Hilson and you're
taking a shot at Beyonce, like, ah, this is one thing.
This is one thing. Like when it comes to rap,
R and B music general, right, I understand you have
(02:39):
to have some level of confidence to get to the
level you are, but there's a point where that confidence
has to meet reality, you know what I mean? Like,
and I love it in the rap game because all
these rappers be like, I'm the greatest rapper alive, I'm
the greatest rapper live. Jay Z says it little when
he says it, you're cool. Big Sean says, it's like
Big Sean. Let's be real, come on, now you're good
(03:02):
that brother.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Wait, second shot, Sean, the greatest, Sean, the greatest, really,
come on, Big Sean.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So I love it. I love the confidence. Carrie Hilson
versus Beyonce, I can understand how that can happen. But
I think at some point you got like if you
would have said Carrie Hilson versus Keisha Ko, I would
have been like, yeah, that's a good beef.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So at the time we you know, fifteen plus years ago,
everyone was of the response that you're giving like like
carry Hilson, Wow, and why is yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
There? So recently we got we got some new beef.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There was a there was an interview on the Breakfast
Club or Carrie Hilson was explaining like because they asked her.
It was just like, yeah, I didn't want to record that.
I didn't I didn't write that. They made me say it,
and it was just like, hey, either you sing what
we tell you to sing, or we not putting your
music out. And so like that's what has emerged like
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several years later, and if you think about it, in
the hindset, Carry Hilson came out was hot, and then
like we just really didn't hear much about her anymore.
And it was because like the be have to go
and you go against Beyonce, You're gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Which is funny because I remember beefs like that. You
know what I'm saying. You got the Prince Versus Michael
Jackson beef right and the Who's Bad video Princess Wow,
It's like who's Butter's Who's yo? Yo? But is mine?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Michael Jackson was supposed to say. Michael Jackson was supposed
to Prince was supposed to be in the Who's Bad video?
Michael Jesson was supposed to say the line your butt
is mine? Who's he was supposed to say it to Prince,
and Prince was like, no, because who's butt you're talking about?
And that's I could, I could. I can appreciate that, beef.
It was Michael Jackson versus Prince at the time, so
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it's like, who you talking to? You ain't talking toot.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I was also watching I was in a we made
rabbit hole where somebody was talking about r KL and
Usher on the.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Same girl and it's like.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Both parts and then they sent it to Usher and
then Usher recorded the part he that y'all heard in
the song, and the RK was just he recorded the
wrong part. And it was just like, well, that's the
party took. So you're trying to tell me you think
Usher can take my girl, that's what you're telling me.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
R Kelly was upset. Now R Kelly also was a psychopath,
but that's true. He had let's let's let's let's not
go past that. But but the Carrie Hilton Beyonce thing,
that's interesting, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think the thing that's most interesting to me though,
is like when you know something that is morally wrong
or you don't agree with something, but you don't have
any control over the situation, Like what do you do
like I think the noble thing would be. I don't
agree with that. I'm not recording it. But the truth
(05:58):
of the matter is sometimes we're putting situations where we
have to do things that we do not agree with.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, yeah, I think. I think. I think morally you
can't say morally versus you can say ethically. I think
ethically the right thing will be able to do. Morally,
when you go down to morals, you go down to
a different level because morally you have to think what's
morally right to you. Because apparently what's right to me
is taking care of my pockets. And if they tell
me if they cut the check, and they tell me
(06:24):
to say this, and I ain't really got no beef
with Beyonce, but they telling me if I cut this check,
I get If I say these lines, I get this check,
I'm gonna say them lines. I look more so on
the music industry, if she said, they made her say it,
that versus them. Basically, they're trying to create a competition
to Beyonce versus let the competition be created itself. And
(06:45):
I think that's the one thing about music you gotta
let happen. You know what, I'm saying, nobody put Rihanna
versus Beyonce versus. They try to. No, no, no, no,
they try to. But you gotta also understand the fans
are going to create it.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
For they're trying to put Kelly against Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You know, but the fans are going to create it first.
You know, as a fan Atlanta Falcons fan, I would
say this, and a lot of Atlanta Falcons fans will
not say this, and they will probably go under the
grave without saying this. But I'll be honest with it.
Everybody when they came out with like all of Julio
Jones comparison, think about Julio Jones era, right, Like Julio
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Jones versus Antonio Brown, Julio Jones versus DeAndre Hopkins, Julio
Jones versus you know, whatever other receiver was, you know,
whatever was hot at the time, right, And it's kind
of like everybody was trying to say Julio Jones was
a guy, but who's just like Julio Jones. And I'm like, now,
nobody ever compared Julio Jones and Mike Evans, And Mike
Evans might be a bigger dog than Julio Jones and
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nobody will admit that as a Falcons fan.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, isn't Mike Evans like after Julio Jones, Mikevins. Mike
Evans is before and after because Mike Evans came into
the league. Mike Evans played with like Johnny Manzel in college. Though,
wasn't I think Julio was in the league before him?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
What was he? Now that's a research you know, I
never got my phone. But if Mike Jones, I mean,
Mike Evans is after, then yeah, that proves my point
even more. I'll give you the answer, all right, give
me the answer, so I could, I could say I'm
right because I sound it wrong just now, I'm just feeling.
I'm just feeling airtime because no, no, no, no, go ahead,
go ahead and go ahead and let me know how
(08:20):
if I'm right, because I don't. I don't want to.
Just you know, when did he get drafted?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Julio Jones was drafted in twenty eleven and Mike Mike
Evans was drafted in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So that makes it even worse because Julio Jones had
multiple Julio Jones was a monster, right, Mike Evans was
a consistent monster. And I think when it boils down
to like consistency when it comes to competition, I think
it's more so who's consistent at the monster. I think
that's the reason why we have the big Michael Jackson
Prince debate, because it's like Prince was a monster, but
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Michael Jackson was consistently a monster. I think the reason
why we have these debates, though, is because comparison is
the thief of joy. Oh, no matter what happens, our
brains are, for whatever reason, wired to compare people who
are in similar fields to one another.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But it's the fastest way to get clicks is to
say the top ten anything of any time period, Like,
it's the quickest way they get clicks on anything.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
We used to do top fives a lot when we
were now our top fives were realistic, though, nah our
top fives. That's the only thing. That's the only thing
I would say with comparisons. I think comparisons are the
biggest thief of joy. But I think realistic comparisons are
actually acceptable. And I think that's the issue that we
have in today's society. In every society, it's always wants
(09:45):
to compare, compare, comparison Ariana Grande is the new Mariah
Carris versus why she can't just be Ariana Grande. Everybody
has to be the new something. It's like, oh, Bruno
Marris is the new Prince. You know what I'm saying, But.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
You also talked about the new But I also don't
want to miss the comparison. What I'm saying, the comparison
Whitney and Mariah did a song together intentionally because at
the time there was all of this like media circus
surrounding and who got better vocals but on Mariah. But
I feel like there's a respectful, realistic comparison that you
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can give because I feel like, just like you say
the good and the bad on the last week's show
that we talked about, I think the reason why you
can root for the underdog is because you always have
somebody else to root for the top.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That's the whole thing with like the Drake and Kendrick beef.
The reason why the Drake and Kendrick beef is so
big is because Drake has been at the top for
so long and the Kendrick fans who are like it
really boils down to like the down of like real
hip hop versus New Age of hip hop. I'm saying
Kendrick ain't wrong. I'm saying Drake ain't ro. Drake has
learned the New Age of hip hop and he has
channeled that to be like the women and I can,
(10:53):
I can, I can sing y'all and rap y'all at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But I think also that the Kendrick and Drake thing
will become a situation of playing the results, because you know,
if you go back to like Muhammad Ali and Joe Fraser,
like historically we look at that situation as Muhammad Ali
is the greatest of all time and Joe Fraser like
he was just one of his many victims along along
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the way.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
In actuality, they.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Were both like. But it's respect it's respectful comparisons, That's
what I say. It's like Tom Brady versus Patrick Mahomes, Like,
oh okay, if Patrick Mahomes beats Tom Brady, that's the
best way to pass off the throne.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Better comparison though, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. When you
look at Tom Brady and Peyton Manning at the time, it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Was neck and neck.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, in hindsight, it was just like Tom Brady won,
so we look at it like, oh, well, Tom Brady is.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The Golden Pager. That's why I sating here somewhere respectful comparisons.
I'm not mad at the Michael Jackson Prince consparracy. I'm
not mad at Whitney Houston. Michael Jackson and Prince were
both up here. I'm not mad at Whitney Houston versus
Mariah Carey at the time, they were both there. Harry
Kilston versus Beyonce. That's where I'm like, That's why I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Pointing out to you. It was in Beyonce's I'm a
Diva era. It wasn't in Beyonce's greatest performer of our generation.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Well, the thing about Beyonce, though, The thing about Beyonce
is you have to rap Beyonce off of errors if
you think about the greatness of Beyonce, come on, bro.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
But Beyonce was just coming out of a group.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Nah were still that was still Hindsightce just did that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
She was in Destiny's Child. Now she's going solo. Let's
see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Carryosen is coming into the game as a solo artist.
It was still like kind of it wasn't Yonce here
it was still it was a tear down, but Beyonce ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But Beyonce still had Pool in the game, and you
want to watch he a Pool in the game because
she was linked to jay Z. Jay Z had been
in the game what since ninety nine, ninety eight, ninety seven,
jay Z jay Z is another good comparison in hindsight,
if you think, but that's the thing, She's already jay
Z's already been compared from jay Z to his NAS.
Jay Z went through the NAS debate the whole time
right before, by the time he met Beyonce, it was
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so by the time being.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Jase, when jay Z and NAS's trajectory started, Yeah, NAS
was clearly in the lead.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, in hindsight, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Like, golly, that's crazy how jay Z was trying to
bully Nods.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So then so then.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Time it was more like Nah, it was like Naza's head.
Jay Z caught up when they really had their beef.
There was probably about at the same level NAS pulled
a head. And I would say in conclusion of that
debate between the two of them, jay Z is probably
finishing higher.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Than jay Z is the winner. Jay Z is the
definite winner. Of the nas jay Z Beef. But then
we have jay Z going where he is, and then
beyond this upcoming star of Beyonce, and then Beyonce ties
her name to jay Z and then Carry Hilton comes out. Yeah,
Beyonce just breaking off her own but like I said,
she was irreplaceable, and she was saying irreplaceable too.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Jay Z, but also realizing that it wasn't like Carry
Hilson wasn't out there doing songs with Kanye.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean, I understand what Carrie Hilson been doing. But
by the time Carrie Hilsey King he got her about
the paint, Carry Hilson was gone. Because as I've always
told people, Beyonce is the head of the Illuminati. She
wasn't then. But sometimes you understand the story is what
a star is. And Carrie Hilson, although she was just
coming into the paint and Beyonce was going into her
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own little lane. Carry Hilson ain't never made bills, bill bills,
Cary Hilson ain't never made say my name. I think
at the end of the day, if you look at
but no, I think, but I also think if you
look at groups going into solo careers, you got Queen,
Freddie Mercury, you got a new addition, and Ralph you
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got uh you know, I mean, you got all these
different lanes where like the solo, the lead singer did
not go off to do a very good job on them.
Beyonce was the lead singer of Destiny Shall Beyonce is
the lead singer of R and B right now. I
think she made the perfect transition to have a lead
singer and the lead singer went on to do big,
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but they ain't go on to be Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, And I think sometimes nobody went on to Beyonce
except for Miguel Jackson.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And that's what I'm saying. But Jackson was the least
singer to Jackson. But that's what I'm saying. I think
you have to respect what it is. I think you
have to respect Beyonce for being Beyonce, because if you
look beyond, you got it. These are these are three people,
four people, four people you have to respect in the
music industry today, and you have no choice but respecting
(15:38):
whether you like or Beyonce. Chris Brown, Lil Wayne.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
An Usher speaking of us, shir when we come back,
we want to talk about respect.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That's doping plumba.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And we're back right on the undeployment line, Doc and
Larry P who are having a debate about UH artists.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
So what we have a discussion about artists, you.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Know, longevity, just about the test of time.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But then then you you made a point that made
me realize something about a story that I feel like
it's litter been debunked. But it led to a question
I had for you as men who you know who
date women or married.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Men at date women? Okay, I'll take it a heterosexual.
It really made me.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
This story stuck out to me when I thought it
was accurate. Special reces like the accuracy of the story
does not shift my thought process.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So there was a lady at an Usher concert.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right, and this came up before with like Keky Palmer
with USh had Kiki on the stage.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I should be doing, I mean at the end of
the day, man, when so all right, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead, I know you're going with this, and I
follow up very well.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So short Usher at his concerts, will you know go
And normally it's like there goes my baby. He was
singing that to them, and you know, women be getting
like real, real close to Usher.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
My baby, why are you singing about another another woman?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And some of these women be buried, some of these
women be having boyfriends or whatever. And so the way
that the story circulated was a woman has gotten divorced
as a result of her interactions with Usher at her
at his concert. And originally I was just like, Wow,
that's crazy, But then I also realized, I've heard enough
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stories about women whiling when they're out of town that
would leave me to believe that I would understand if
a man is that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So let's look at it from an Usher perspective, right
from the Usher. I'm not blaming the Usher. I'm not
blaming the Usher, but let's look at it from this perspective.
A man goes to a strip c love mm hmm.
A man pays for lap dance, lap dance is very,
very very very into it, into it. Lap dance? Is
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that worthy of a divorce? The question is where is
the line? Where is the line? But you're sending her
to an Usher concert, so you already knowsher. Usher done
messed up the whole Kiky Palmer situation. Right, there's still
but there's still a line. But there there is a
line that's like a bachelor bachelore party line. But I
think the only issue with the vacation I think I
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think the issue with the Usher situation is that the Usher,
the Usher line is recorded you you wouldn't know the
line if you if you never saw it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And this goes back to dark core philosophies of life
one and two. Don't be out here key keying in
your woman's face. Don't have her out here looking stupid.
Video will have you out here looking stupid.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, this is this is another thing that I say, Uh,
if you talk about go to the key key, this
is hilarry philosophy of don't go digging for Dirk you
expect them to find because in my mind, if you
send your girl to an Usher concert, you know your
girl going to Usher concert. If you see video circulating
like the Usher concert in Charlotte, why would you look
at those videos because you're like, oh, is my girl
(19:40):
on this video? What a girl on this video? What
is the what is.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
The probability though, like the Usher concerts.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
In the stadium, what is the likelihood that is your
girl and your girl like your girl's not a celebrity.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Your girls not one one out of every girl there.
But you know, but you know what, you know what
one out of every girl there that let's say one
out of every girl there is one out of every
guy that could be dating them. That's one out of
every guy in Charlotte that could be watching that video.
But do you want to be that guy? Of where
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is the line? Because? See?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Because what what is it? What's a great movie? There's
a great movie. I would say it's a great movie.
It's a great movie concept called hall pass.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And go to the Usher concert with your girl if
that's the bigger if it's that big of a deal,
If it's that big of a deal, go to the
concert with it fair.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But I will also say this as a sports fan,
I'm a big San Francisco forty nine Ers fan. Right
the San Francisco forty nine ers are now like a
playoff game or the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But our women at San Francisco forty nine games like
putting cherries on your tongue. Follow I'm following you follow me?
All right, I'm following.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Let me follow Am I going to enjoy this event
as much with someone who's not as big of a fan.
So I could go to an Usher concer with my
old lady. Because I'm a big Usher fan. I'm gonna
know the songs. I'm gonna enjoy the songs. I'm gonna
be into it. You know, it's whatever. But if I go,
if I'm gonna go to a concert for an artist
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whose music I'm not familiar with, like, I'm not gonna
enjoy it as much like I'm gonna be damaging her
good time. So there is a proper possibility that I right, well,
you worried about your Usher doing something of.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Your girl, go with her, But what if you don't
like Usher music like that? And I think that boils
down to something in Portland. As you said, if you
worry about Usher doing something to your girl, if you
worry about Usher doing something to your girl like it
should be, you should already have a thought process at
this point because at the end of the day, either
I'm going to the Usher concert to enjoy the concert
with my girl, or I know my girl going to
an Usher concert. Is she gonna be She may be
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one out of the million girls that may get chosen
by Usher. Now if she does something with that guy,
that's gonna be based on the type of relationship we have,
because we may have a relationship where I've seen a
lot of girls maybe a to like flirt with another
guy or say like another guy was fine or another
guy was this, and their man is cool with that
because they are very confident within their relationship that they
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know that that girl just at the end of the day,
she's still a woman.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But it's also one of two things happening here. Either A,
you as a man recognized that I'm a beautiful woman
that usher might come over and flirt with.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean, you got to understand that if you got
that B or.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
B, I'm a very insecure man, and I'm concerned about
my wife or girlfriend leaving the house in any situation.
Either way, it goes back to what you were saying.
If that's what you were concerned was, you probably should
have been had the concert.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well you say either way, and I think both of
those couldn't exist in the same space. Oh well that too,
and I think you could be insecure to the point
even if you was like a football athlete. I honestly
think like a lot of like the most professional or
most like attractive men and women love are probably sometimes
the most insecure because they try to feel figure out
why this woman don't want them versus the next woman.
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And then when they finally do get a woman that
they feel like it's out of their lead that they
probably couldn't get, they kind of doubt themselves. Then they
feel like they don't deserve the woman that they with.
So then that's when the insecurity started kicking in, saying like, well, shoot,
she probably flirting with other men, and she probably doing this,
she probably doing that. And then that's where you start
looking for dirt and you finally find it because at
the end of the day, no probably reasons she probably
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flirting with other men, it's probably because you ain't flirting
with her.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
But then also to jump back though, I feel like
not to encourage my old lady to go out there
and like frolic with us what I'm saying, but what
I will say is as a man, like I'm looking
at the situation like, you know, what if my old
lady was like, was someone who was enough to grab
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this major artist's attention to be on video or whatever,
it's just like all right, cool, Like, you know, I
hope she had a good But there are also times
in which I feel like people are disrespectful to their relationship.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And what they do when they be out here in
these streets. All I know is if if my lady
at an Usher concert and I catch my lady on
camera doing some freaky stuff for Usher, then that best
mean she coming back to the bedroom and doing ten
times more freaky. That's all I'm saying. What That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Look, I feel like you are missing the point all getting.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
All I'm saying is, look, if I didn't watch you
on camera, everybody, but oh you see I freaking the
girl was a Usher, And I'm thinking, like, damn, she
do that at home. She's doing it at home, Because
that's what you also got to realize the one girl
that every man is lusting over, Like you know, you
watch videos and watch comments and then b dudes being
the comments like oh what about a girl, Oh look
(24:48):
at that girl, Oh what's the girls at? Oh what's
I mentioned? Just imagine being the one guy with that girl,
with everybody asking for her mentioned, and all she want
to do is be freaky with you.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And see, this is one of the things I don't trust,
like and I don't have this level of ego, but
I also like I see this perspective.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Like for me, I will.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Maybe it's just me, Like I like the idea of
like me and my wife enter a room and like
other dudes just.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Be like I think every I think going on right there.
I think every guy should be be be relationship or
sexually comfortable with the fact that they got a good
looking woman and other men are going to want that.
And I think, honestly, I feel like if you don't
feel that about your woman, then you need to find
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another one, because I feel like that makes every relationship better.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Be what the person that don't nobody else.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Want, Like, I don't want to be like I want
to be like when when I when my girl tell
me she going out to have some drinks, I'm thinking, like, dang,
other dudess gonna try to buy her drinks? Huh. But
in my mind I'm thinking like shoe they say, what's
both money?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You know. But at the same time, I know my
girl ain't the type of girl that's just gonna be
taking drinks from random guys.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
But then that's where it goes back to the idea
of respect too. So but that's your lady goes out
with her girls, they out here having a good time.
A couple of dudes come over. They having a party like, hey,
I'm gonn probably all around the shots or whatever. All right,
all right, that's cool, like s everybody has a different line.
This is my line, all right, my old ladies out
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with her girls. Dude comes over, says he's gonna buy
him around the shots.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Dude comes over and says he's gonna buy him another
round of shots.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Cool. All right, so the second now, the second round
the shots. You're tripping, bro, No no, no, no, no
no no wait wait wait wait wait. As the man
of the group, As the man of the group, you
got to understand how men work. You gotta understand how
men work. And it's it's me as a man of
the group. If there's one person in the group, I'm
trying to highlight, I will, I will, I will buy
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shots for every body. Let me just get to that one.
Let me if I'm the man and I'm in the
group with you and this man came back for the
second shots, I'm gonna say, big dog like, no, ain't
no need for no more shots. But he bought it
for the group. Though, no, I'm not. This is what
my concern.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Put them on my tab. This is my I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Oh if it'll fine there then yeah, that's I'm not
the girl. Yeah the second the second round, he wild.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
When that next round comes around and he's like, hey,
I'm just getting a drink just for you. And my
old lady accepts that drink. We got a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
That's that's where.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Like that's why I'm like, there has to be a
clear line, that's what.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But that's why I say, like my old lady, I
know she ain't taking that drink. She too skeptical about
like people putting stuff in your drinks and stuff like that.
So yeah, you get to doing some crazy stuff like
that already know my old lady like no, but she
gonna put she's gonna put a start to that one.
But and that's I think it was ball down to
the relationship. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
But I think that's my thing with like people being
out of town, people being out of it, Like I've
heard so many things like disintegrate over like people's decisions.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
When they were a little too carefree and like it is.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I've heard everything from we were out on a vacation
to it was my homegirls bachelor party, to we was
out at the club or we were at a concert.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You know what, all those situations lack accountability. M because
at the end of the day, as you as we
started this off with if my girl going to Usher concert,
I'm not mad at Usher. He putting on the show.
We already know what the show is.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh, I'm never I'm never mad at these.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I guess this is another way that I want to
look at it too. The reason why I say, is
the Usher situation really a divorceable or break up situation?
Because it's cheating really a breakup a divorcable situation?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Because really is it?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Some some people would say that you gotta got Some
people hold cheating to be a firm none.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But you also have to realize that the level of
cheating based on the level of cheating that it is,
but it doesn't you. It's also up to you to
define what's cheating. But does does it? No? I mean
cheating is cheating, emotional cheating, emotional cheating or physical cheating,
cheatings cheating is cheating, is cheating. Some people would say
that's like saying like oh, well we we we uh.
(29:26):
The death penalty is not murder, but killing somebody's murder
Like no murders murder. No, it's just it's just off
ranges legally sanctioned.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Because because some people would define cheating as even having
the conversation, even entertaining.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
No, no, no, that's that's my cheating as that's micro intimacy. No,
that's micro manager. I think. I think at the end
of the day, when you know your person, if you
know your person, cheating is what cheating is. And I
think cheating is whenever you find some type of physical
or emotional bond to another person that ain't your partner,
(30:08):
that's cheating. Cheating is cheating. Whether you feel that bond
emotionally you're just friends, there ain't. Now you're talking because
now you're trying to you're trying to get into specifics
of what I'm saying about bond. And we know what
bond is. If we talking about cheating and we say bond,
we know what bond is. There is a platonic bond
that you can have where cheating is not even a question.
(30:29):
We already know what it is. You know what it is.
If you know you ain't cheating, you got a platonic
bond between this person and the opposite sets, then it
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
For me is like, if you snug, you cheated you,
if you got a sneak to do it, you know
you wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I won't even say that. I won't even say that
because I think send of you messages and you feel
compelled to delete them. Yeah, now I will say that.
I will say that. I will say that that is
a definite rule of thumb for a lot of men.
I don't know if it worked the same way for women.
And but if you, if you ask yourself, ask yourself,
(31:06):
if my men crazy? Why are there not even that?
Not even that? Not even that? If you, if you
ask yourself, this is what cheated is to me. If
you ask yourself, if my man or my woman was
to grab my phone and go through Instagram, Facebook messages
and test messages and phone calls, and if I had
a reason to delete anything, then you got to ask
(31:28):
yourself at my cheating? Or is my relationship just that
unstable that my partner is just insecure with whoever I
talk to? Those are two places you gotta ask yourself,
and that's where a lot of relationships fell to.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
When we come back, I want to talk a little
bit more about security. It's not the plumbing line and
(32:18):
we're back right now on the underplommed line, Doc and
Larry P talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Hey, I saw what you did. That was kind of crazy,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
When we're talking about in the break and I was
just intro Yeah, I was just thinking about this as
we were just talking on the previous segment about Usher,
and uh, like your old somebody's old lady.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
This is all out here in securities. I'm mooching with Usher.
Insecurities of a man's really what the topic of this topic,
this this, this, this conversation is fair. But what I
was just thinking about when we was doing the break was.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Sometimes we project what we would do in this situation
onto the person that we're in a relationship with. And
so I could understand why a man would get upset
about the old lady being like like nose to nose
with us er because they know, like if it was
(33:23):
them knows the nose with whatever beautiful.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
R and b rap talent it could be, they would
fold immediately.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
But you also but then you also got to think
about it from the perspective of men versus women. And
I think we've said this years ago on the Larry
P Show or the Unemployment Not whatever it was at
the time. And I think I have to always tell
myself this constantly when I think about like women versus men,
mars versus venus, whatever you want to call it. Men.
(33:56):
If men cheat physically, it doesn't mean much, but if
men cheat emotionally, it means everything. Women, if they cheat emotionally,
it don't mean much, but if they cheat physically, it
means everything. And I think in your example, what you're
(34:18):
saying is men are watching women emotionally cheat because they've
had this emotional connection to Usher Raymon. And when you
see a woman at an Usher concert doing the things
with Usher, it's like, oh my god, my woman is
cheating on me. And it's not really she cheating me
because at the end of the day, physically she ain't
did nothing with them. Emotionally she is connected to him completely, but.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
She's already connected with her because it's USh.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's USh. Yeah. So at the end of the day,
like I said, you send.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It there, we undervalue the impact that music or even
entertainment has in our lives.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
There's a reason why these people make a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Like when you when somebody can make you feel something,
and that person who's making you feel something you don't
even know them.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
You know what I got for you?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
That's that is significant.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And you know what I got for you. And I
told you this before we even started this show. I
think we was talking about it before the show started.
And a lot of men when they get in marriages
and relationships, they fail to recognize the fact that they
ain't the first man and they woman being with. When
you watch your woman at an Usher concert and you
see her going through all these moments, you were realizing
(35:31):
that whenever those Usher showns came out, whenever those moments
speak to her, that it's speaking to her she may
be reliving a moment with somebody else. Especially if you
all you make is sets music. Just imagine how many
times that this girl may have had sets to Usher.
You know what I'm saying, it's seven o'clock on the
(35:52):
I mean, you know what I'm saying. Tell me to us,
those are just words I.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Want to get freek that might have been, that might
have been with her and her like high school or
college crush.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Like to them, like we like where we like at
seven o'clock in the drop top cruise in the streets,
We're like, oh yeah, you know, I ain't never owned
no drop top, but there may have been a point
in her life where she was in the drop Top
at seven o'clock. Cruise right there, go ahead?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Why USh are trying to tell us that the lyrics
in them songs is different than they actually.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Are the seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, you're talking about talking about who's in the streets.
No one's ever asked that question, including Usher. That man
was like seven o'clock going to top amember drop top.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Who's in the streets? That is not Those are not
the lyrics. Usher, I think I was trying to tell
us he said a cruise in the street.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Everybody else heard cruising except Usher, Wow, that the lyrics
are who's in this.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
No, that's cruising? That's like, that's like and trying to
clear up, does it say Hollywood? So Hollywood Cole and
you know one hundred and three thousand say he said
whatever y'all wanted it to be, whatever y'all heard. Then
you got people like Lloyd, who's just lying five two
are fine too? We know he said fine too. Everybody
just heard five too. Because why would you say that, girl, Lloyd,
(37:18):
you're five too? Why would that make I mean but
that would make sense. A bunch of tall girls he
can't get. So is she five too? She the same
night as him, then of course he will want her. Well,
I know you tall, but I'm okay with she's fast too,
but I want you. Yeah, Now it doesn't make sense
(37:39):
because you will want the five two girl, because why
don't you want the five two girls? She's five two?
But I want you, but I want you so fine
two has to make sense. I think that's been my
only correlation with that song. It's like, is it five
two are fine too? And I was like, why does
five to two make sense? If five two don't make sense,
then it has to be fine too? Five too don't
make sense? But back back to us. But yeah, usher,
(38:01):
and your girl, your girl is like I like I said,
I honestly, it boils down the ego. With a lot
of men in relationships, everything boils down the ego and
whatever like your And I think this also boils down
to like a lot of women growing up being single mothers,
because a lot of men really are growing up without
the image of what a man is supposed to be.
(38:22):
So when we grow up and we start dealing with
these emotions, we're dealing with those emotions based off of
what we may have seen, which, of course, if we
ain't have no dad in our life, then of course
we're gonna have female tendencies of getting jealous of our
woman at a concert with another man when it's in actuality,
when she'd be like, shoot, she come home to me.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
And see, I'm just a different breed, and I don't.
I don't want this to sound the wrong way, but.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Vacations, concerts, entertainment, your girl doing something? No, well, I'm
just about to say it's not cheat like I want you,
like if you spending money on something, I want you
to have an experience.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
If I go to a football game and it's my
favorite team playing, I really hope they won.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Let's also say this. Let's also I'm glad you put
that in perspective, because let's also say this. Usher is
not doing anything with your girl. If she bought the
four hundred dollars seats. No, if your girl bought eight
hundred thousand dollars seats, know that your girl may be
the one out of millions that gets done by Usher.
But if your girl bought the four hundred nosebleed seats ish,
(39:29):
don't worry about it. Brother.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
If your girl got floor seats vip seeds at Usher,
those are the ones what you should be thinking, brother,
is boy, I should hope Usher rub up on my woman.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
That's really the concert you want to go to. You,
that's really the concert you paid for. If you know
that she if she's like, ooh the meat and Greek
is only nine to fifty and I could get the
concert tickets, you better figure out a way to get
your nine fifty.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
You spent all that money.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
If your old lady comes home from the concert and
tells you, hey, the concept was cool, like.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Ush' saying some songs like yeah, Usher got your money's worth.
But if your old lady comes home and be.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Like, hey, bad, Usher was all up on me tonight,
you know what you're Instead of getting jealous, what you
should think about is.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
That was a good investment, you know, really enjoyed. That's
all I'm saying is if Usher up on your girl
and your girl turned Usher down, just realize you got
yourself something that you shouldn't have. You out of your
league at this point, brother, And I think that's what
some men don't want to admit and see, and that's
and that's a great point. You out of your league, buddy,
I think dudes, you should to the mindset of in
(40:41):
order to have the woman that you want, you gotta
be out here dating women that's out of your league
in order for the which case you should always be
on point in expecting these things to happen. In order
for a man to successfully believe be in a relationship
with a woman is that he has to continuously thirk
for his woman. And the only way that you can
(41:02):
continuously thirst for your woman for the rest of your
life is for your woman to essentially be out of
your league. So a lot of men take a lot
of shots that they're not supposed to take, and the
ones that do land, they got to hold on to
that because guess what, buddy, the love that you are
pouring into that woman right now, you're gonna continue to
pour into that woman because you're gonna realize she don't
got to be with me.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
And it's also the only motivation for a lot of
the things that women expect us as men to do,
Like women be out there asking us to like take
care of their car, take care of y'all, make sure
like all of the like the if anything breaks the ouse,
you gotta take care of it.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
And guess what, it's one horny dude that's just sitting
around just waiting for her to ask it, and guess
what you want. One thing. I think that's what one
thing about comfortable men in relationships that we take for granted,
we take for granted the power of horny men. Horny
men will do a lot before even getting even a sniff.
(42:00):
Dey be looking at it like, hey, they will. They
will cut the grass, they will clean the yard. You
need me to change out your alternate. They will clean
the oven, they will, they will trim the edges, they
will they will do a whole lot of stuff just
to even get close to the point of she put
a head on my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I got these solar panels and the eight solar panels
in this eighteen wheeler. I can put them on your
house and decrease your electric bill. So are you do
you have a CDL No?
Speaker 3 (42:30):
But I just will could. I just want every man
in the world that is in a nice relationship with
a good looking woman to realize the strength of horny men.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
And I want every man to and I won't I
want adjusted to my scale. But what I will say
is if you look at your girlfriend, fiance wife and
not thinking to yourself, she is really really attractive. You
need to operate in such a manner that there's always
a dude lingering in the chair.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Nah Na, not that, not that you mess up, Not
that there's always a dude. If you are really in
this situation and you'd be like, hey, my girl really
look good, like if she get done up, you know
what I'm saying, Not even if she get done up,
if it's just a random look good. It's a random
day that she puts sweats on, she washed her face,
put some lotion on and there, you know what I'm saying,
(43:22):
put put her hair in a nice little body, and
you're like, God, this girl look good as hell. If
you think that, just realize there's ten other dudes I
think that as well. You dots it one. I want
you all to understand that it's ten. Whenever your girl
go out somewhere, it's ten guys that try to holler
her all the time, whether it's ten guys that actually
physically speak to her or ten guys that look at her.
(43:44):
Because you got to think about even from a man's perspective.
How many times you see a girl you'd be like, dang,
she look good, but you keep moving cause you're like, oh,
I'm in a relationship. So it's ten to look at it.
Maybe two or three that take a shot. That shoot,
they shot. But while she walking around and she's just
trying to get the garlic bread out the frozen section
and food line, just realize it's a couple of men
(44:05):
that doubled backed on a couple of hours and said
hold them now, who that was? It went down the
aisle because you ain't there? And then think about this,
what are they sliding in there? Like Usher? Yeah? Remember
when Usher was like in the uh in the you
got a bad video? Or do you remind me video?
But that's why I say, like a lot of times
(44:26):
even when cheating happening in relationships, especially on the man's
and you gotta look at situations like these. You know
what I'm saying, Your girl be trying to tell you
some stuff like you know what I'm saying, Gosh, I
to tell girls like man, look, I'm over here turning
down cool she's living right, I'm over here turning these girls. Now,
what do you think she doing she's been turning.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
I won't even say I don't because it's not appropriate.
I think how long your old lady has been turning?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't think guys understand your old.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Lady has been turning down men far longer than you are.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
I don't thing guys understand how many dudes they woman
be turning down versus how many women we be turning.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
At her day they turned out. Third day, she gonna
pump some gas. Hey she go and get some groceries.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Hey she at work. It don't make she get home
and look at you. Women probably got I got a
man copied and pasted they into their notebook so they
could just send it to other guys. It's probably a
key word auto text. Probably know it by now. But
your little dumb self probably like what another man trying
to holler at you? And she's sitting around turning out
(45:32):
every man you like, Well, I can't have any woman.
I won't. She can too, buddy, And then these special
k dudes be out there what your man got to
do with me?
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Like it's constantly your woman is used to being hollered
at all love time.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
It's like every man in a relationship forgot what it
was to be a man, not in a relationship, because
you used to be that honey guy, and you know
what extent you would have gone to YO, You got
a man.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
And if I can tell y'all nothing else on this show,
then just remember what it's like to be a
Speaker 3 (46:07):
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