Episode 133: Runnin' Like a Rebel with Cathryn Price

Cathryn is a genre-blending artist with a voice that hits like a memory you forgot you had. Her music lives somewhere between heartbreak and healing — raw, real, and impossible to ignore. Whether she’s on stage or in the studio, Cathryn brings that fire. Gritty, soulful vocals, lyrics that stick, and a sound that bends rules without losing its roots. She’s not here to copy what’s been done. She’s building something timeless.

Cathryn Price shares her inspiring journey from musical beginnings through darkness to creating a new artistic hub in Fremont's Niles district. Her story weaves together themes of resilience, community building, and authentic creative expression that's revitalizing the local music scene.

• Growing up surrounded by music in a family that made space for creativity
• Finding musical inspiration from Johnny Cash's biopic "Walk the Line" at age 13
• Surviving an abusive relationship and temporarily abandoning music
• Rediscovering her musical identity through support from friends and family
• Currently working as an audio engineer while performing and helping develop other artists
• Plans to open a comprehensive music studio in Niles offering lessons, recording services, and songwriting retreats
• Creating safe spaces for artists to learn, create, and understand the business side of music
• Building community through jam nights and local performances
• Philosophy that artists "shine brighter together" rather than competing
• Special live performance of her unreleased song "Running Like a Rebel" 

Find Cathryn performing at the Niles summer series on July 12th, where she'll be opening for a friend before headlining next year.

You can follow Cathryn on her Instagram here: @itscathrynprice

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Petrocelli Homes has been a key sponsor of The Fremont Podcast from the beginning. If you are looking for a realtor, get in touch with Petrocelli Homes on Niles Blvd in Fremont.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ooh, oh yeah.
Every day is a new day here inFremont.
All the things you need arehere today and you meet some new

(00:24):
people Might as well and waveand say hey.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello, fremont, ricky B, here with the Fremont
Podcast.
I'm really excited to be ableto bring to you new episodes of
the Fremont Podcast.
Up until this point, all of ourepisodes have been on audio.
You can find them on almostevery audio podcast platform
there is, but now we are hopingto be able to bring you the new

(01:02):
episodes on both video and audio, so you'll be able to still
listen to them wherever it isthat you find your podcasts, and
you'll be able to watch them onYouTube.
With that in mind, I want tojust share with you how I
envision the podcast to look.
Moving forward, we took a breakfor a little bit.
For almost two and a half years, we brought you podcast

(01:27):
episodes every week and we werethrilled to be able to share
with you the conversations thatwe were privileged to have here
in our community.
But it's a lot of work and ittakes a lot of money.
It takes a lot of resources, ittakes a lot of effort, and so
we needed to take a break for alittle bit.
From here on out, I am lookingforward to being able to
continue to bring you episodes,conversations of people here in

(01:52):
the Fremont community, but we'regoing to try to space it out so
that it's sustainable.
We had been bringing youepisodes every Friday and now
our goal is to at least bringyou two good quality episodes a
month and if I get theopportunity to bring more, then
that's bonus for you.

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But our goal is to help makethis something that's a staple
in our community long term, andI think, slowing down our rhythm
, being able to offer you fewerepisodes but better quality
episodes, will be the hope andthe goal that we will have
moving forward.
With that in mind, I do want totake a moment just to thank a

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few people for making thispodcast a reality.
First of all, I want to thankmy team a reality.
First of all, I want to thankmy team.
For years, I have been able towork with a phenomenal team who
have helped to bring theseepisodes and these conversations
to you.
There is no way that I would beable to do what we have done
here on the Fremont Podcastwithout them.

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Andrew and Sarah served as myeditor, served as my assistant
scheduler and they did researchon everybody that we had
conversations with, and there isno way that this podcast would
have been a reality without them.
They served you as a community.

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Well, they gave above andbeyond what was asked of them
and they made this a reality.
And even when I was not able tocontinue on, andrew was able to
bring you episodes on his ownthat were just phenomenal.
So I would be remiss if I didnot thank them for their effort,
their time and all of theirinvestment into this podcast.

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This podcast would truly not behere if it were not for them.
I also want to thank oursponsors.
For years, we've had peopleinvest and share as sponsors on
the podcast and, particularlynow, I want to tell you about
Petrocelli Homes.
Petrocelli Homes was our veryfirst sponsor and they continue
to be our sponsor until this day.

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Jennifer Petroroseli has servedthis podcast to help make it a
possibility and a reality foryears and, matter of fact, I'm
sitting in their office spaceright now recording this video
for you.
But I want to tell you thatJennifer Petroseli is not just a
sponsor.
She actually helped serve as arealtor that I was able to work

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with.
In 2023, an organization that Iwork with was selling a home
here in Fremont and Irecommended that we use Jennifer
Petrucelli to be our realtor,and she was phenomenal.
I had known of her as a partnerof the podcast, but I had not
been able to actually work withher.
But when we went through theprocess of selling this home,

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she was always a step ahead.
She was always aware of whatour needs were.
She had contractors to helpserve us when we needed it.
She had everybody where theyneeded to be when we needed to
do it.
She was always making sure thateverything was getting done so
that we could get the house onthe market and get it sold as

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quickly as possible.
The experience that I had withJennifer as we sold this home
was phenomenal and I cannotrecommend to you enough Jennifer
Petrucelli of Petrucelli Homes.
She has been a phenomenalpartner with our podcast, but
she is a phenomenal realtor andI wholeheartedly recommend her

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to you.
If you are looking to buy orsell your home, I want to
recommend to you JenniferPetrucelli of Petrucelli Homes.
I also need to thank all thosewho have been sponsors of the
podcast as well.
If I tried to start listingthem off right now, I'm sure
that I would miss some, butanyone who has been a sponsor of
the podcast, any local businessor individual who's been a

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sponsor of the podcast I want tothank you so much for helping
make this podcast a reality.
I also want to thank you.
Thank you for listening.
If you weren't listening, therewould be no reason to have this
podcast.
Without you, there is nopurpose and there is no
motivation to be able to bringyou these episodes.
So, thank you so much forlistening to the podcast and if

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you know people who have yet tohear the podcast, I invite you
to share these episodes withthem so that they could be a
part of our podcast community.
Well, I'm looking forward tobringing you more episodes.
I'm excited about the episodesthat we've already recorded, the
conversations that we'vealready had, and I hope that

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these are conversations thatwill encourage you to be a
better resident in our community, to be a better citizen and to
get involved with the thingsthat are going on in our
community.
This place, fremont, would notbe what it is without you, and
we can always make it better bylistening, by sharing and by

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investing our time and effort tomake it what it is.
So, with that said, I want toinvite you to listen to our new
episodes, beginning with thisepisode, episode 133, with
Catherine Price.
You ready?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, well, because that's one thing.
It's like I feel like you know,that's always been a separate
thing for you, like real estateand then this.
And I saw that and I alwaysasked myself the question of
like how can I just be and alsowork, like how can I just live

(07:38):
authentically?
And that was music.
It has always been that way andwhen I discovered that I was
like, wow, I don't have to beanything else, like I'm clocked
in and I'm like just myself allthe time you know there's
certain levels of like thatprofessionalism, because you
have different interactions withdifferent people and you got to
know like tonation andintonation and like how you're

(08:01):
speaking to them and what you'rewearing, even what kind of
setting it's in.
It's all, it's all like energyand feng shui and like how it
works together.
Yeah, yeah, so it's music.
So, yeah, everything's music.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I love that, um , so, actually.
So let's, let's jump into this,my, my.
So a couple things.
If I, if I'm fidgeting,adjusting or whatever, don't
mind me, just let me do my thing.
Yeah, um, and you just kind ofenjoy, um, doing your thing and
focusing on what you're doing.
Um, and if anything, like ifanybody, they close at four.

(08:33):
So, if anything, if anybodycomes down here and they disturb
us or whatever, we'll just stopand we can edit and make
changes.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Free tea, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And yeah, so I appreciate your manager sending
me information.
Sarah, my scheduler andassistant, would do everything
for me.
She'd have like a whole pageand a half of like research that
she did on the person that Iwas interviewing to kind of make
sure that I had a lot of notesand stuff.

(09:08):
So, um, and it was alwaysamazing to have that uh to work
with.
But, um, I am very much thevision of this podcast came from
just randomly meeting people atcoffee shops and in town and
just hearing the candid story oftheir life, without it being

(09:29):
set up or prepared or whatever,and so I actually am a big fan
of trying to have thoseconversations here, even though
we've got cameras and mics inour face.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, it's something to get used to you know.
uh, at first I was like reallynervous, but I feel like the
more that you do it, you realizelike it's just again, it's like
a, it's an energy thing.
But yeah, I mean, having thatorganic experience anywhere is
is how you, how the magichappens and how ideas come to
life.
And that's my favorite partabout the songwriting sessions

(10:01):
too is like usually the firsthalf an hour to an hour you're
just kind of setting in, gettingto know somebody and sometimes
like it's a songwriting sessionin a coffee shop too and you're
just you're vibing with a person.
But it's that organicexperience I'm really I love
that, I'm all about it.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's cool, so tell me what you're doing.
So what I want to do is let'sgo ahead and start with where
you are now, like what are youdoing right now?
And then I kind of want toretract that back to how did you
get here?
So, like, so, what is your?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
what are you in the middle of doing right now with
your life, man?
That's a big question Living,living, living, succeeding.
Yeah, um showing myself howresilient I am in the industry,
especially as a woman.
Um going into major studios,being behind huge consoles,
learning how to track drums with, you know, grammy award winning
and nominated musicians, andproducers.

(11:03):
I'm also helping out differentartists through artist
development.
I'm also going to school, soI'm working full time, going to
school full time and alsoperforming wherever I can.
I have a few shows coming upbut, yeah, helping build the
brand.
Right now I have an amazing uhcommunity that I'm a part of, um

(11:24):
, you know, in the Bay area.
That was hard for me to find atfirst and I grew up here so.
I left thinking like there'snothing here.
You know, I went to Nashvilleand everything and then came
back and realized like purposeis here, like I am the community
yeah, I have to make it happen.
So just performing a lot, um,helping other artists doing my

(11:46):
own thing, recording, getting in, you know, sync, like libraries
.
I'd love to have a placement ina movie.
You know, do something with amusic supervisor.
And I'm talking to them andthey're like do you have any
songs that match this kind ofvibe?
And I'm like, no, but I'll makeone you know, um.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
So that kind of goes to what we were just talking
about earlier is that the musicthat I was using when I
originally started the podcastwas just, um, let's say, generic
.
I mean I paid something to beable to get, get it, get it
licensed, um, but it was just, Ididn't know who wrote it.
It didn't have any particularmeaning with Fremont or Niles or
anything like that, but I justthought it would be really great

(12:26):
to have somebody who's local,that writes music, and just use
something or have somethingwritten that really just kind of
matches the vibe of the podcast, to be able to kind of make it
true, completely homegrown, youknow not just not just pieced

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out from other places.
So when we I was taught, we werejust talking about the cast of
Niles podcast and I didn't didan interview with Michael
McNevin.
And he played a number of songsfor me and I snagged some audio
from one of the songs that heplayed that he wrote about Niles
, and that's the music that weuse for the Cast of Niles

(13:08):
podcast.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, see, yeah, authentic organic, that's
awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, so that's what I was thinking about with you.
I was like, if you're writingmusic and you're performing, I
out with you.
I was like, if you're writingmusic and you're performing, I
saw something on your Instagramrecently that how much you were
just kind of like you gave ashout out to Niles, your
hometown, and I was justthinking it'd be great just to
have someone like you, who justreally has a love for this
community, to be able to give ussomething to be able to listen

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to on each episode of thepodcast.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, Well, you know.
Thanks for bringing up thatInstagram post so you know a
social media post.
It was really vulnerable for meto kind of like tell my truth.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
And I think that, yeah, you do touch a point Like
that's why I'm here is to likehave that authenticity, and I
think that's what we're kind ofshying away from with all this
new tech and everything we have,ai kind of shying away from
with all this new tech andeverything we have ai we have.
You know ways that you can makebeats without musicians.
You can do all of that, butwe're missing the vital, like
meat and potatoes of it, whichis the energy, which is you know

(14:08):
where you're from and and whatcomes out of you.
Naturally, what were yougrowing up listening to?
That all comes out in the music.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's something.
Yeah, I love that, um, becauseI think that there's uh
shortcuts available to almostanything you want, like there's
ways to get things to get likean end product.
But I I think that sometimes weshort change um so many of the
uh the elements that really makeit like a symbiotic

(14:36):
relationship with the world thatwe live in.
So in some sense you can writea song that the lyrics aren't
don't have anything to do withwhere you live or who you grew
up with or the friends that youhave.
But you know, if you wrote thatsong and you've got a band that
you've been working with andyou've been just like tweaking
that and just like bringing itinto a really fine place, you

(15:05):
know that the story is woveninto the fabric of that song
that you've written or performed.
So I love that.
The world needs more of that.
They need more of you, aw,thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's so sweet.
I just try to be as authenticas I can and really include
other people.
Uh, I think that's the biggestthing is I want to help.
I also want to do my thing byshowing you know that I can,
which means you can too.
My niece looks at me likeauntie you're actually really

(15:35):
cool, you're playing on stage.
You got a guitar.
I'm like finally it's about timeyou knew, um, but yeah, I, I
just say, you know, be asauthentic as you can and those
experiences will happen and themusic will come.
Um, and I question all the time, cause I'm very influenced by
my environment.
So when I was in Nashville Iwas singing the, the, the songs

(15:57):
and the country, and, you know,getting a little twang going on,
and started saying y'all, andit was a lot of fun.
And then I came back to the Bayand I was like OK, cool, like
we've got a big movement of likerock here, we've got hip hop
and rap going on and I wasinvolved in all of the scenes,
for the most part A little bitof punk but, you know, mostly

(16:22):
like rock country pop hip hop, alittle bit of punk, but you
know mostly like rock, country,pop, hip-hop, um a little bit of
reggae too, because I'm fromsan diego.
Okay, I love, uh like ska andreggae.
So, yeah, I, I love all music,but really what comes out of me
is the niles character.
When I'm just my sixth string,it's like the true, like folk,
you know country yeah, veryinfluenced by michael mcnevin I

(16:43):
will say because I grew up hereand he had the mud puddle puddle
shop um, and I'm sad thatthat's closing I know, you know,
I've been there the last twoweekends for his uh, what's he
called getting getting muddy?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
yeah um his gigs and bringing people in from out of
town and stuff, and I'vecaptured a number of videos of
him and others doing music there.
But it is a sad thing.
I mean, in some sense, as longas he's around and his influence
is around, that life, thatspirit is going to live on.

(17:16):
Yeah, but that's just a coolplace.
I know it's just a cool place Imean it's just a.
It's just a cool place to beable to go and experience all
the chairs hanging on the walls,like the etch a sketch um
drawings that he has are justphenomenal yeah, that's pretty
cool.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
So I hope to bridge the gap because you know, niles
is really amazing community, um,and, being from here, I already
started a jam night onValentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That was awesome, which was amazing.
I missed it.
I got the invite.
I even.
Rsvp'd and said I was comingand something came up and I was
not able to make it, so Iapologize, oh my gosh, you
missed a popping party.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I will tell you, it was amazing and everybody that
came was just, you know, blownaway like I started.
I am a very emotional person Ithink that's why I'm a
songwriter, but I literally waslike looking at everybody and I
had this moment of like wow,like I.
I did that, you know, as I setit up.
It came from a place of notwanting to be alone on

(18:17):
valentine's day and I was like Idon't know valentine, I was
like I'm done moping what to do.
I'm saying I was like I'm donemoping around, like I'm going to
do something.
So I set that event up and thenthe jam night went wild and
everyone was like I want toparticipate in that.
So I realized that thiscommunity is craving, you know,
local music, nightlife andMichael's doing a great job

(18:42):
because he's got Frederico's andyou know.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
But it takes a community and he's told me I'm
passing the torch to you, sothat's awesome.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I definitely want to create the same kind of
atmosphere and um, I'm actuallylaunching a project right now
where I'm going to open up uh anindependent studio where I have
uh opportunities for people totake lessons for different
instruments, also retreats likesongwriting retreats.
There also be a studio thateventually I'll allow other

(19:10):
engineers to use, similar to youknow what's going on at Hyde
and 25th like as long as you arean established producer.
Yeah, at Hyde and 25th, like aslong as you, you know, an
established producer.
Um so I I'm getting ready tocreate an iconic landmark in
this place, and Niles is oldHollywood, but let's make it new
, you know new yeah and newNiles, and that's carrying the

(19:33):
spirit that has been for so manyyears.
Like this town knows itshistory and Right, and I'm here
to make my mark.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I was just talking to.
Actually it was the peopleacross the street that just
they're redoing that whole spaceby the Devil's Workshop right
next door.
I was just talking to them lastweekend and I was saying that
you know it's interesting that.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
The angels are singing.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know it's interesting how the Is that
coming from inside there?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I don't know, but yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, it's interesting how there's so many
stories of so many people thatlive here and they go back
generations.
I mean you're having peoplethat have you know, their
great-grandparents orgreat-great-grandparents moved
here from you know, from theAzores.
Or they moved here from Italy orthey moved here from wherever,

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and they've got these storiesthat have been around for a long
time and I just think thatthose stories number one.
I feel like that's what wereally want to capture.
But on the newer side of that,like the more contemporary
moment that we're in, I feellike the um, that is so weird.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Is it like they're?
They're devout?
Maybe devout coffee is uh,we're at this location today.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I don't know if it's someone is.
Oh, you know what.
There's a phone in that, inthat office.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I bet if someone is, is that song.
Someone is ringing.
There you go, there you go.
Someone is calling.
Do you need Ricky?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
There you go, awesome Because he's podcast falling.
I love it.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
There you go.
That's our new bumper track.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, if that goes one more time, I'm going to have
to go in there Do you want todo it now.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I don't know what it is.
It was a.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I feel like it could be a phone cord or like a
landline.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Landline.
They have a landline in there.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Landline.
It's a landline.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
All right, so where were?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
we about this devil's workshop.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, the devil's workshop.
So I was just telling them thatI feel like those stories are
amazing.
I think history is importantbecause it's where we came from,
but I mean, niles has not goneaway yet, there's still the

(22:17):
heart and the spirit and thecharacter and everything that's
here.
But do you feel?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
like it's slowly encroaching, like there's still,
like the heart and the spiritand the character and everything
that's here.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But do you feel like it's slowly encroaching, Like
you?
Know, that's why we have tobranch out.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
you know, that's the biggest thing and not reinvent
it, but, like create the newversion of it.
Refresh it, yeah revitalize.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
you know, I think that's the same thing Like
evolving right, everything's gotto evolve but we, we nurture
the spirit and it's alive andwell here and we need to bring
more people who are willing tocontribute to the arts and the
excitement happening here.
We don't need people who aregoing to come in and break into
these local shops owned by smallfamilies, you know so I think

(22:58):
that's the biggest thing is likeagain bringing the community
together and branching out andjust remembering like we're
evolving.
You know so, like the devil'sworkshop is turning into the
white rabbit you know so andthings like that.
And then the gallery downtownis turning into an amazing place
.
You can go, talk to the ownerand you could potentially you

(23:19):
know have a jam night, or youknow he's offered space.
Yes, yeah, he's amazing greatand then flying a with all the
stuff, like there's things goingon on that side of town.
Right, what's happening on?
This side of town we got togive the firefighters a, you
know some entertainment, that'sright.
But uh yeah fremont's a greatplace, but niles niles is
amazing.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
That's where I'm from .
That's great, that's great.
So tell me, tell me, um yourstory.
Like what?
Like I'm hearing your dream,like you are like announcing in
essence this, this, uh,beginning of, like, the new era
of Niles, and what you'rebringing to it.
Um, where did this come from?
Like what, what is your story?
How did you get here?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
the phone's gonna go.
I need some ringtones.
Yeah, no, it's my story.
How did I get here?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
yeah, like like you grew up here and like how did
you get to playing music?
And like what was the, what wasthe inspiration behind it?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I mean, wow, yeah wow , um, how did I get to playing
music?
Well, I would say I've alwaysbeen surrounded by music because
my family's always made spacefor it and I think that's the
biggest thing, because it's itbecame my friend.
Um, so at a young age, myfamily always had like a music

(24:34):
room slash living room, where wehad like our living room, and
then we'd also have like a pianoin there, and forever it's been
like that and I would just dangon that and everything.
Um, and then my dad there'sactually a video of me as a baby
on my instagram right now.
He played guitar, so he wouldalways play this, the 12 string
guitar.
Um, and that really influencedme and my mom and I, because our

(25:00):
piano was like a kawasaki, youknow, yamaha, some sort of like
electric piano, I don't know offthe top of my head right now,
but, um, it had these floppydisks we would like put in.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I remember those.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, we uh the piano I had, that had that was a
clavinova, yeah, yeah so we'dpop the floppy disk in and like
have like five songs we'resinging, and of all those five
songs was, um, you know,caribbean king, caribbean queen,
that she turned into caribbeanking.
So we'd be like like we would gooff all night and that that

(25:38):
slowly evolved to my sisters whowere older than me, becoming
teenagers, developing their ownlike genre, and that just got
passed down Like Sublime 311.
You know, we got Green Day,we've got Tom Petty from my mom,
we've got Coldplay from my dad,we've got like Image and Heap
and like all kinds of differentthings, and that was mostly like

(26:01):
in san diego.
And then, um, we moved up tothe bay and then all of a sudden
it started like e40, there wegot mr fab, there we have like
there we go.
You know, I was like grew up inthe bay, I was in the school,
so that was like a whole thingbecause it was a culture shock
and I loved it.
I was like, tell me when to go,tell me when.

(26:21):
You know, I was a kid right, sothat's what I grew up with.
And then my sister, she wouldplay the guitar, right, so she
had a six string and, like Isaid, music was kind of always
around me and I really wanted to, you know, connect with her.
She was a cool older sister andmy oldest sister had already
passed down her music knowledgeand now it was just me and my

(26:44):
middle sister, so we had prettybig age gaps.
The oldest one was already outthe house, so it was just me and
my middle sister, erin, and wewere jamming and we would write
songs and we made songs aboutcrazy things, things amazingly
funny, hilarious things, and wewould be up in the middle of the

(27:04):
night just making songs youknow.
So that's really where mysongwriting came from and then
when I turned, like 13, this islike the defining moment, like
this is all building up and thenI watched Walk the Line with
Joaquin Phoenix and ReeseWitherspoon.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Changed everything for me Because I was over here
listening to like all this oldclassic rock and everything.
And then I was like what isthis country like love story,
like I was enthralled by it youknow, that's cool.
And then from there I asked mydad and my parents to get me.
Actually, I think I got introuble and they were like
here's your guitar.

(27:41):
And I was like, if I get aguitar, I want it to be all
black because I want it to belike Johnny Cash, you know.
So I entered into that era ofJohnny Cash lifestyle and then I
started songwriting like crazy.
Like 13 years old, I wrote myfirst real like verse, verse,
chorus, verse, chorus, bridgechorus I already knew like

(28:02):
structure.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, you know yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Because I think it was just because I grew up
singing so many songs, I waslike subconsciously okay, this
has to change here, this needsto be something else.
And it developed into that.
And then I would song write.
My mom still has the first songthat I wrote, which was called
monsters, and she's like you gotto redo it Me.
I like do it again.

(28:24):
I'm like okay, but she's likeit doesn't sound the same.
I'm like yeah, cause I'm not asad like 13 year old anymore,
mom, but uh, you gotta be ableto.
But after that I grew up right,so I moved out.
I left home at like 16.

(28:45):
And then I went into like areally difficult time in my life
.
I had a really abusive partner,unfortunately, and you know we
were living like homeless andthat was crazy because it was so
disconnected from like whateverybody saw from the outside
in know, but it's, it'sdifferent when you're living it

(29:06):
and nobody can understand.
But I feel like the thatexperience took me to the place
I am today.
So I went back to san diego andI just decided like I'm gonna
give up on music, likecompletely, like I don't.
You know, I was in this likeabusive relationship, had this
guy like telling me you'reworthless.
You know, I was in this likeabusive relationship, had this
guy like telling me you'reworthless, you can't do it.
You suck like everything Iwould create.

(29:27):
He'd put down and he wasphysically, emotionally and
mentally abusive, keep in mind.
So I'm a survivor of that, soyeah I'm sorry you went through
that, that's it's tough, youknow talk about, but I feel like
it's it's been like six and ahalf years now that I'm finally
on the other side, where I'mlike whoo, you know, like I can
say that you know, that's notsomething that, no, anybody

(29:50):
should ever go through so well,I was just yeah on that.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I you know I hate that like.
I think those, I thinkrelationships and the connection
you have with people are someof those beautiful things in the
world and it's the things thatwe rely on the most Right, and I
think that when you go throughsomething like that, it's like a
betrayal.
It's something where you haveleaned on that, put some hope in

(30:19):
it, trust in, trust in it, andthen it just it pulls, pulls the
rug off from underneath you.
And um, I've not been in a.
I mean the same thing.
There it goes again, I've notbeen in the same thing, but uh,
I do know, I do know that the um, when I've had, when I've had
moments where I feel like the,where, in a relationship that I

(30:42):
had, I suffered the betrayal ofthat relationship.
I just I mean it's horrible itreally is horrible.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
You go through the dark night of the soul, you know
, and I think I really was deepin it and I didn't have any
self-love you know, because Ididn't understand and now,
looking back hindsight, I'm likeokay, this is why the data,
data and I've worked with someamazing people shout out save in
Fremont safe alternatives forviolent environments.
They helped save me that'sgreat.

(31:13):
Wow, I came back so amazingFremont shout out to them yeah,
so that was happening, right.
And finally, like I called myfamily up and because there was
an incident that happened, I'dgotten away, I'd like done this
thing in, you know, san diegoand everything, and I was like I
give up on music completely.

(31:33):
So I went and I did health carefor a little while, um, and I
was like fully involved in like,corporate health care, you know
, staffing nurses and all thesethings for hospitals that needed
them and whatnot, and I wasworking a lot like I was working
and then I had this really goodfriend.

(31:53):
Her name is amazing, I'm notgonna say it now because she
wants to stay anonymous, but, um, shout out to her because she
really saved my life, wow, woo.
So, yeah, but she went throughthe same thing that I did, you
know, and she told me, like fromthe outside perspective, what I
couldn't see.

(32:13):
And she's like when's the lasttime?
Like, I want to talk aboutmusic, I want to talk about
things that you like andeverything.
And for the first time ever, Iwas like reminded in a very long
time, right?
So, she really helped me out and, and you know, we went to the
50 cent tables.
I got, you know, shirts andpants from there, cause I wasn't
going back and I escaped thatrelationship.

(32:36):
Um, but you know it, it camewith a price and unfortunately
it wasn't Catherine Price Um ormaybe it was cause I had to find
myself again.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Right the new, the new, the new, catherine Price.
That was the price, exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
So, um, I had to let go of the old Catherine Price
and, and you know, become who Iam today, which you know.
When music came back into mylife, I actually quit the
corporate job.
They had screwed me overroyally and I was like you know
what Screw corporate companies,I don't ever want to work for
them.
And I was like full blown inmusic.

(33:12):
I wouldn't work in a corporateoffice again because I was
typing all day and, you know, inpain, so it's no place for a
songwriter.
Like even if you got a bartendand do other things in the
meantime, like that's okay, youknow, just make sure your brain
power is not sucked out.
Um, but yeah, I got the sixstream back in my hand after,

(33:36):
you know, leaving an abusiverelationship.
My friend helped me and myfamily helped me and then I kind
of was like, like you know,building myself back up again,
uh, working as a parent educatorfor severely handicapped
students, k through 12 wow,that's cool.
Yeah, it was amazing I mean Ilove working with those kids and
then in the nighttime I'd go toolive garden and I'd bartend so

(33:57):
morning night and then I wouldlike walk dogs in the meantime,
also do like like dog sitting,house sitting.
All that to fund like my nextventure, which was music.
So I started building my studio, slowly getting like new
strings for my guitars built.
Like you know.
I have a table now where,instead of working on like a you

(34:17):
know pop-up table, I actuallyhave like a studio table where I
can pull out my MIDI keyboardand and all of that and um, you
know I also work, um at a musicretailer, which is great because
that helps me stay in you knowthe zone all day and then I
learn about different equipmentand I meet different people.

(34:39):
That can I, I can help and youknow we connect with and maybe
even do shows with which isreally fun.
But that's pretty much what'sled me up to this point today,
where I'm in school for audioengineering.
I'm in major studios recording.
I'm getting better and betterat my guitar every day.
It's going to be a lifetimething.
I will always be a student ofguitar.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
it's going to be a lifetime thing.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I will always be a student of guitar, um, but yeah,
just just making that likereally coming home to myself and
like music's been there for mesince I was a baby, and what am
I doing to give back to that?
Yeah, so that's great.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I love it.
You know I want to.
There's so many things thatcame into my mind as you were
talking there, but I'm so gladyou got to share that.
I think one of the things I'mnot a songwriter.
I mean I've tried to writesongs occasionally and I've come
up with maybe small littlephrases that sounded good, but
that was about it.
It's a start.
It's a start, yeah, but I thinkthe thing that really catches

(35:39):
my attention when it comes tosongwriters are the like, the
various and and the manydifferent experiences that they
go through.
That somehow the filter that isin their mind and in in who
they are, um, just kind offilters out like gold in some

(36:01):
sense, of those experiences andthen somehow that is refined and
formed into a song that's ableto be shared.
And I'm listening to all theexperiences that you went
through and honestly, the abuseis just horrible and I hate that
.
But there's so many things thateven a negative experience,

(36:24):
it's kind of like having thatblack velvet background.
Putting a diamond on the blackvelvet background, it causes the
beautiful things, the peacefulmoments, the moments of just
walking dogs.
It causes it to shine and makeit something more beautiful,
because you remember the kind ofmisery that you were in when

(36:45):
you went through what you weregoing through.
You know, and I do think thatwhat you're doing, I love it,
because I think what you'redoing is you're creating a place
and a space for people to havethe opportunity to have a future
like that you know, I mean, youcould look at it very simply
and very two-dimensionally andjust say it's a place to perform

(37:09):
and to create music, but inanother sense, you're creating a
place to beautifully andmulti-dimensionally tell stories
and share stories, and I thinkthat that's the kind of thing
that really resonates withpeople, because I mean, even

(37:30):
like what you were saying aboutthe movie that you watched and
Walk the Line and how thatinfluenced you I don't know
anything about the people thatproduced that movie.
I don't know what they had inmind, what their intention, what
their hopes and dreams were,but something that they created

(37:51):
influenced you in a way that Imean it's changed your life.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
You should tell them that I've never even thought
about that.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
You know, like yeah yeah, that's a big deal, but
you're creating something, too,where somebody you know 20, 30
years from now is going to lookback and say I was going through
this and this and this and thenI found katherine price and I
found her studio and, um, shegave me she, she loved she, she
helped me believe in myself,what I could do, what I could
accomplish, she helped me dreamabout something you know bigger

(38:21):
than myself and and they'regoing to look back at that as a
life-changing moment.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, I think that's my blessing and curse is that I
can see the potential ofsomebody, but there's like a
like.
Also a dark side to that isthat you know I'm molding you
based off of what my perceptionis right and so I think it's
just important to allow people aspace to be vulnerable and show
themselves who they are.

(38:46):
Yeah, you know, because peoplewill show themselves eventually,
right?
It's just a matter of if theyfeel safe enough to do so,
because you have ego and youalso have like business deals
that you're dealing with andthen you also have to like
competition, like I am, so thatis not my level.
Yeah, like, I don't even thinklike that.
I'm like I'm here on earth onetime, um, one ticket don't get a

(39:11):
return and it's a one-wayflight, um, and I would like to
make it a really nice, smoothride.
And it might be a littleturbulent at some times, but you
know, we're smooth sailing andI think the reason for that is
because I don't really haveexpectations and I set goals and
I compare myself to myself andas long as I continue walking

(39:32):
forward, one step, one day at atime, I'll be okay, and that's
the same message I want to sendto everybody that's in my orbit.
You know, we're all our ownplanets, our own stars, and we
will come together in in myorbit, you know um we're all our
own planets, our own stars, andand we will come together in a
line.
You know it's not about who'sbetter than the other person
right and if you truly are, thatit will show you'll shine.

(39:53):
Yeah, but I think that we all,we shine brighter together and
that's my mentality, because Icome from sports and I think
that's like where that comesfrom.
Sure, and being like thecaptain of my teams and just
seeing like, all right, let's dothis like I'm, I've always done
that and I want to win you know, I really want to win.

(40:14):
That's great, so I love it well, you know it's interesting too.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I was just uh, we're, I mean I don't need to give an
explanation why, but weirdlyenough I don't know if you've
seen it I was just watching themovie jobs.
Have you seen that with about?
it's about yeah, about stevejobs and I.
I had watched it when it firstcame out and I was watching it
again recently and there was ascene where, um, they're like

(40:38):
apple's about to go public andum, ashton kutcher sitting at
one end of the boardroom tableand he's drinking a beer and and
I can't remember who the othercharacters play play by Josh Gad
, but he's, he comes in and theywere co-founders of Apple and
they have this conversation thatbasically Josh Gad, his
character is.
Basically he says you know, thereason I started this company

(41:02):
or did what I did, is becauseyou, because you're the coolest
person.
I know what I did.
I felt like I was basically ageek or I was very like, you
know, weird or, you know,disconnected from the rest of
the world, but you, you know,you made, basically made me look
cool.
You gave me an opportunity todo what I love in a space that I

(41:24):
could basically get paid fordoing what I love to do, because
what was happening was SteveJobs was changing to just like,
wanted to dominate andeverything had to be his way.
It had to be, like you know, andin the movie it displays his
life being as one going fromjust appreciating beauty.
In the movie it displays hislife being as one going from

(41:45):
just appreciating beauty in theoutdoors and the sky and the
fields and the mountains and thetrees, to now there's this guy
who's just honed in onconquering everything or being
the best at this, and I feellike anyway, I was just hearing
you talk about it and I wasfeeling that tension as well,

(42:05):
kind of, between the two of them.
Like there's a sense in which,like, for instance, I wish I
knew the guy's real name, butthe guy who's Josh Gad is
playing, he wanted to win too,but he wanted to do it because
it was fun, it was good, it wassomething that like resonated
with, just something that heloved, um, whereas, uh, ashton

(42:25):
Kutcher was willing to sacrificefriendship, sacrifice, um, uh,
people's dignity, um, because hejust wanted to accomplish what
he, what he was, uh, what he wasafter.
And so I feel like and this goesback to what you're talking
about with the studio so I feellike and this goes back to what
you're talking about with thestudio I feel like when you give

(42:52):
people a safe space where theycan exercise their muscles of
creativity and be able to pursuethings that are welling up
inside of them, allowing them tofigure out what that is and to
put it out into music.
I think it's a great thing.
But on the flip side, I feellike sometimes we just sit in
that puddle and we're just likeI don't know how to get beyond

(43:12):
where I am right now and youkind of need a sense of like I
want to win sort of spirit.
Like it's like I want to becreative but I don't want to get
stuck, I don't want to getbogged down, and there's just
kind of like that tension inbetween the two that are.
That's really important, yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
You can get in your own way, especially if you're
overthinking it all the time youknow, and I think that it like
I bet that Steve Jobs at the endof his life wasn't even
thinking like like he gave backso much because he, I feel like
he realized that that was thewrong way to go about it Right.

(43:47):
And there's people like that inthe music industry where they
will just cut throat, they'llsteal from you, they'll take,
they'll take advantage of theknowledge that you don't have,
like maybe talk about royaltiesand like tell you that there's
oh yeah, you'll get 50 onpublishing, but you don't know
anything about the songwritingsplit or vice versa.
You don't own the masters andyou know there's so many hidden,

(44:08):
yeah, doors like I want to justopen all of those for artists
that may not know.
Um, and you know that's comefrom me having negative
experiences where I'm like Idon't want anybody right to go
through this again.
You know, or anybody that worksaround me or with me has an
experience like this.
Yeah, and it's funny becauseyou know I always laugh at like

(44:29):
artists that I work with thatare like skeptical of me cuz I'm
like, yeah, I love your.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Your healthy level of distrust is beautiful right now
because we're both kind of likeon guard, you know but
eventually it becomes afriendship and then a business
relationship.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
But if not, then it's just be.
It's just a businessrelationship and you know very
early whether or not that'ssomebody you're going to be
working with long term or not.
Um, and I think it's just aboutyou know, being transparent in
the best possible way to empowerpeople to do it on their own.
Um, and I think that you knowthat's why I'm going about it a

(45:08):
different way is because I wasshown community within the music
industry and I know how itfeels to be like I can't trust
anybody here, Like where's theright information?
You go on YouTube, you go downthe rabbit hole.
Then you're buying $506,000worth of courses that aren't
going to help you.
So it's like one-stop shop.
That's what I want to have,where you know, you have like

(45:30):
your understanding, you knowartist development, there's
recording, there's lessons, youcan do it all.
There's a pathway to it.
And the best thing about todayis there's no gatekeepers.
Anybody telling you there is islying to you.
It's business, you know.
So if you build a brand, youbuild it up and that you know
there's steps to it.
But depending on what yourgoals are, it's very real very

(45:52):
realistic.
And the people that treat youlike cutthroat and all that
stuff.
They literally do that becausethey don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
And there are people up there I'm not gonna say, like
you know, there's, there's notbad deals and people like that
in major labels and big industrycorporations.
I haven't met them and I neverwant to yeah, right so if you
want to do a deal with me, it'sbecause we're both gonna win and
we're, you know, I don't mindlike if your services and

(46:21):
everything I laid out, thecontract looks good, but you.
I'm at a point now where I'mjust like I've put so much time
and energy and effort and, likeyou said the beginning, like you
know, people don't see thebehind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
That goes into it.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Um, and that's the thing.
So, yeah, creating thatone-stop shop and making sure
it's done authentically,organically, you're connecting
with people and therelationships you build are
really big too, because younever know where you might meet
somebody down the line.
My mom taught me that too.
Your reputation will follow youand always leave a place

(46:55):
cleaner than you came.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
That's right.
My mom told me that too.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Love my mama.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
That's great.
That's great.
So I want to hear a couple morethings.
I need to go upstairs and makesure I settle up with them
before they close.
So is there any more detailsabout your special space in
Niles that we get to hear, or isthis something that we have to
wait for?

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yes, um, this is going to be something that will
be rolled out, hopefully, uh,before the summer series that
I'm going to be performing atthis year.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Um, so there'll be more announcement in the coming
summer series in Niles.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yes, july 12th, I will be opening up for uh, one
of my dear friends.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
And I hope to do more of that honestly.
I said next year I was like I'mgoing to headline because I've
done two years now of opening.
It's about time.
A Niles girl headlines.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
That's right For sure , so I got to get everything in
order Good.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
And I'm confident that this year is going to just
bring all of that.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
So more to come.
Yeah, I'm going to ask you oneother question before I go up
there and take care of that.
So my other question for you iswhat's the favorite song that
you've written?
Do you have a favorite songthat you've written, and why?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
My favorite song that I've written I would say my
favorite song that I've writtenrecently is Shades of Jade,
because it was like such anauthentic experience.
And then, boom, I wrote thesong like the next day.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
And I found some really cool chords that I took
to my producer.
That was awesome.
And he put a reverb plate on it.
That is amazing.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
That would be my favorite too.
I haven't heard your otherstuff and it just like that is
amazing.
Yeah, that would be my favoritetoo.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I haven't heard your other stuff, but I love that.
The song Rebel, that's greatOkay.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Because I started writing that song and it ended
up being like a family venture.
Because it was Christmas, thefire was on.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
My whole family was in the living room, and I don't
know, I started writing thissong and I was like, okay,
running like a rebel.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
I'm out here on the road, that's right.
That's right.
You want to hear something thatno one's ever heard before.
We got it right here.
So yeah, that's great.
Well, it's a bootleg copy.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Fighting off the devil.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Fighting off the devil, Like I started doing all
these crazy ideas and everythingand doing all these crazy ideas
and everything, and then Ifinally just got my guitar out
putting on paper mybrother-in-law shouting things,
my sister shouting things.
We got a whole song.
We got chaos going on and wecame up with a whole tune.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
And after that I revised it.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
It's literally the number one most requested song
anywhere I go, and it's not evenrecorded yet, so that's.
The next stop is to record it.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
How long ago did you write that Um?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
probably about two years Wow there we go.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
That is a special thing, though, Cause you know I
I shoot photography.
I love doing video andphotography where I can, and I
have so many photos that I lovethat nobody's ever seen yes, you
know, like I feel.
I feel like I can't likeInstagram is not gonna do it
justice, like it's like and Iunderstand that there's like a,

(50:06):
there's like a diminishment thathappens through like a uh, uh,
like a platform like Instagram,because it's like, if you love
something so much and you get,like you know, 53 likes, you're
like you don't understand, likethis is my baby like why did I
sacrifice it to the world?
You know?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
oh, but 53 people put in a room, that's right.
You'd be surprised.
That's right.
That's exactly right, that'sexactly so.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
There's kind of like a, there's kind of like a feel
to like I I don't want to shareit, like I want to, I want to
enjoy it and without like takingaway from, like the origin and
the body of it you know, Iwanted to be there now, with
that being said.
Now, with that being said, youcan't get too like selfish about
it.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Well, it's hard to feel like because you feel
unappreciated.
You're like 53 likes dude, thiswould be like 3 million right,
that's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Why did this not go viral, right?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
but just because, like those 53 people, I
guarantee you I've done thisbefore where I'm like I got like
10 likes and I like take thepost down.
They're like dude.
What happened?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
to the post.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah so I would say like think bigger.
You know what, what if youthose pictures, you could even
publish them yourself right andhave like your own line of books
where your photos are inspiringpeople, like that's the thing.
We all have, this within us andit's not to put all your power
in one platform that might begone tomorrow.

(51:29):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I was reminded recently of and I'm going to
butcher it, I'm not even goingto say correctly, so if you're
listening to this, you can justlook it up but CS Lewis, who,
like you know, wrote Chroniclesof Narnia and all that.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Oh, my God, I love that.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, he said something about like something
is not fully enjoyed unless it'sshared, and so there's
something about like you canexperience a moment, a moment
like I can experience something,but until I share it with
someone, like it's my joy is notactually like fully complete.
Yeah, you know and so there issomething about that idea of

(52:03):
like, yeah, you can, you get the53 likes and you know whatever.
But then it's like but I put itout there, but by putting it out
there and creating a platformthat you're proud of, to put it
on like a book, like creatingbooks or something like that.
And people like really reallycan appreciate it to the extent
that they can through thatmedium.

(52:26):
It means so much more.
Yeah, you never know who seesit, that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Like Tyler, the creator was going on Instagram
and like looking at theseartists that didn't going on
Instagram and like looking upthese.
You know, artists that didn'thave any followers and like
working with them you know thepower the one degree of
separation.
also like and also the power ofour social media, like we have
an ability to contact people.
Back in the day it was likeCher was visiting Clive Davis

(52:54):
hospital, was it Cher?
I think it might've been, andshe was like you're signing me,
you know, you get out of thishospital, I'm on your label, you
know, and like you'd have to goand have that in-person thing.
But now it's like I'll justshoot you an email and if it
matches and we're on the samepage, then cool.
Like yeah you know.
So that's what I go back tosaying like just live

(53:15):
authentically.
I do not want to work withpeople like it's OK to not know
who you are yet, but don't fakelike, don't fake that
vulnerability with like a puffedup ego.
Yeah, like just be yourself andbe like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
You know, and that's for me to take too, because
sometimes I'll walk in a roomlike I know everything and I'm
like no, I don't you know,slowly, like sinking down.
But I think that's why Istarted studying audio
engineering too is because I'dwalk in the studios.
I'm like, just like an artist,like I want this to sound like
this, and they're like you'relike you don't know yeah and now
.
I'm like all right, let's panthat to the left.

(53:50):
Let's do that like eq.
What plugins are we using?
And then they're like okay.
That's great, and I'll getbehind the computer and start
messing with my DAW, or evenbetter.
I'll send my own files from myhouse.
And we're working remotely allaround the world.
That's awesome.
The next stop is tour.
That's my next thing is I wantto take it global.
That's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
That's awesome, I love it.
Well, let me go take care ofthis.
And while I'm doing that, maybethe last thing we could do is
get you to play a song for us.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Okay, I'll tune it while you're doing that.
I'll tune it, I'll tune it.
I told my mama I think I couldfly.
She told me that I could touchthe sky.

(54:44):
I told my daddy I think that Ishould try.
He said you gotta live beforeyou die.
Running like a rebel, I'm outhere on the road Fighting off
the devil With some Sally Rockand Roll, Took a stop in

(55:07):
Tennessee, Picked up blue sweetshoes for me.
Then I walked that line Feelinglike a BB Queen In the new
world.
And I walked that line feelinglike a BB queen and I had to run
home.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Pulled in for some gasoline and I met a man called
Dash Pitt.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
He said your bumper's bent and your tire's flat.
You should probably fix thatshit.
Hey you, I said what?
else you gotta say Worry aboutyour own three feet of space and
keep your boots laced.
Runnin' like a rebel.
I'm out here on the roadFightin' off the devil With some

(56:11):
solid rock and roll.
Took a stop in Tennessee,picked up blueede shoes for me.
Then I walked that line feelinglike a BB queen.
I told my mama I think I couldfly.

(56:40):
She told me that I could touchthe sky.
I told my daddy I think that Ishould try.
He said you gotta live beforeyou die.
Running like a rebel.
I'm out here on the roadfighting off the devil With some

(57:05):
solid rock and roll.
Took a stop in Tennessee,picked up those sweet shoes for
me and I walked that lineFeeling like a baby queen.
And oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, that was awesome I love it, thank you.
That is amazing.
That would be my favorite too.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I haven't heard none of this stuff but I love that.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
That's great, that's a.
You know that's a good one, andand walk the line too.
I don't know if you heard that,but uh, that was a that was a
tribute to that song or thatmovie.
Okay, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Thank you for sharing that with I don't know.
I don't want to say I'm thefirst one to record it, but I
yeah, you might be.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Yeah, I have it on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
That's how you listen to it, you want to hear
something that no one's everheard before.
We got it.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
We got it right that is the first official recording
there that's great.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Well, it's a bootleg it's a live copy there you go
limited edition katherine, thankyou so much for being on the
podcast thanks for having mehuge treat for me.
I uh, I love it.
I've been trying to track youdown for a while and that's not
been, you know, your fault oranybody's.
It's just life's business.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
But it's a privilege having you on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
So thank you for joining me.
I'm honored to be here, youknow, and absolutely thank you
so much for, and I look forwardto more Awesome.
That sounds great.
There we go.