February 21, 2025 • 40 mins
Join us as we break down the escalating tensions between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Donald Trump as they trade public jabs. We analyze why this could be a risky move for Zelenskyy, given that U.S. funding has been crucial to Ukraine’s war effort and that Trump holds significant influence over any potential peace deal with Russia.
We also dive into Trump’s latest executive order aimed at protecting IVF treatments. While Democrats argue it doesn’t go far enough, we examine what the order actually does and discuss a shocking IVF mix-up where a woman was implanted with the wrong embryo.
Finally, in “This Day in History,” we look back at John Glenn’s historic journey as the first American in space.
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back here to the full story on WYAB 103.9
As we have full power here in the station unlike yesterday
We're fighting a little bit of some power issues and going back and we're completely fully
Live again on the live streamers. We had cameras going out and things going out boards going out
It was a it was a fun time as we got had a plan to three hours yesterday and got to about two and a quarter
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Of it before we completely
Had to get cut out
But we are fully back now and fully broadcasting it live for all to hear
as we're gonna get back into
the
growing story of what's going on with the relations between us and Ukraine as
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Vladimir Zelensky as
Thinks he can thinks he can talk back to Donald Trump think he can
Kind of go against him even though we fund his country and his war
and so we're gonna talk about that the growing we
Kind of brought that up yesterday the the growing expanse of that as it started to take off once the United States had talks with
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Had opened up talks for the first time with Russia in Saudi Arabia this past
This earlier this week and I think on is on Tuesday. They had talks
And that angered Zelensky that he wasn't invited
But like I said when you don't pay for your own war, that's kind of the way it works as well
As the EU wasn't there as well. And of course, they don't pay for it either
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So it's really it was the two parties that are paying for this war the ones who got together
To talk and that angered Zelensky. He threw some words and then you know, as I said yesterday
Trump is not the one you want to do that with
He's not the guy especially when you're especially if you were in bed with Biden to begin with not a great thing
So we're gonna cover some of Trump's latest comments that he made at
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At a meeting with business leaders
Last night, we're gonna play that for you when talking about that and I also want to talk
I didn't get to it yesterday. I want to talk about the
Expansion of IVF that Donald Trump has talked about it. I do want to get to that
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So we are going to force that whether we're going to be at least our second story
So we have time to get to it. Usually
Within our first hour here. We have time for about two big stories
Before we before we get to the end. So those are the two big ones. I want to make sure that we cover this morning
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there's also
there's also
Bodies returned of children who were killed by the by Hamas who had taken hostage and killed as hostages
If we have time, we'll give a little bit more update on that
and of course as you heard there at the top not really much to
Talk about as it was talked about there by Chris Davis at the top of the hour
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the Mississippi lieutenant governor Delbert Ho's been passed out on the
Senate floor yesterday not really much of a story to cover as far as something to go in depth
But he was making a speech there on the Senate floor and just passed out
Of course, he's 77 years old. He said after he was brought to the hospital. He said he was just dehydrated
So hopefully that is it is it is dry out there. Even though it's cold
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That's one thing to remember is that you know, we think of dehydration too, especially for older individuals
You know, we think of dehydration we think of the summer, right? So it's it's hot
and you're
Obviously, you know sweating a lot so you're it's you can definitely get dehydrated with some but we always think about it in the summer
But you have to remember in the winter, even though it's cold. It's still very very dry
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It's very the air is much drier
So it's very easy to get dehydrated in the winter as well. So always make sure you're drinking your water
Always staying hydrated is an important thing and
That's just a reminder of it, especially for on it's important for everybody
Of course everybody to be make sure they're hydrated. But of course like anybody else older individuals are much more at
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risk of that dehydration
So just stay hydrated out there folks
Of course a lot of hot air going in the Mississippi Senate right now
A lot of bills being talked about school choice being of course a big one
So a lot of a lot of big things going on there a lot of hot air as well
I guess you would say in the in the in the in the chambers which could lead to that as well
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So but again the stories we want to we want to talk about today are
Following up on the Trump Zelinsky jab trading
I should say and then the IVF is going to be our second story
And if we have time to go into more detail about the hostage situation
We have time to go into more detail about the hostages that were really young hostages that were brutally killed by Hamas
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as as that war unfolds as well like always if you want to call in during the breaks number 601-879-0002
Keep it tuned here to the full story on WIAB 103.9
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back here to the full story on WIAB
103.9 as we get into our main story. So yesterday we talked about how
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Ukraine
President Zelensky they call him that was not too happy about being was not too happy about being
excluded from the talks when with Donald Trump and Vladimir
with well not Donald Trump but Donald Trump's administration with the Putin administration in in in
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Saudi Arabia that Marco Rubio was a part of and when they talked about where they can move in as far as how can they move this
move towards peace for the Ukrainian conflict and
Ukrainian President Zelensky responded to the criticism
of Kiev as well as himself as well as where this is going by
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telling you that Donald Trump is living in disinformation space created by Russia and this I thought was just
was absolutely
Was absolutely just really rich
coming from
Someone who doesn't have allow freedom of the press or anything like that
and they
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Say that he's living in a disinformation space. We have no information from what Ukraine itself
I guess we actually really don't know what is going on over there. We never really do know
and for him to say that Donald Trump is living in disinformation space is
quite
Quite ballsy of him to to say that
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because again, you don't bite the hand that feeds you and
That of course Donald Trump is not one to just take things take things lightly
and so
He has
Made a statement. I'm trying to get this video pulled up here
as
We get it over here on the live stream
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for some reason the computer is
Not wanting to cooperate too much with me
I don't know what's the history just gets it just gets too cold and
They the computer just wants to just be all buggy on us here
Okay, get this video loaded up here
but Donald Trump was speaking down in Miami and
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He gets a video to it
So this is him speaking down in Miami about
Vladimir Zelensky is quite good. You know once again Donald Trump's not the kind of guy that you want to
That you want to start trading jabs with especially when he writes
The when he writes when our country is the one he writes the checks. So here he is
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But think of it a
modestly successful comedian
President Zelensky talked the United States of America into spending
350 billion dollars to go into a war that
Basically couldn't be one
That never had to start and never would have started if I was president not even a chance and it didn't start for four years
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He refuses to have elections is slow and the real Ukrainian polls
I mean, how can you be high with every city is being demolished? It's hard to be somebody said oh no his polls are good
Give me a break
Every city is being demolished
They look like a demolition site every single one of them and the only thing
He was really good at was playing Joe Biden like a fiddle. He played him like a fiddle. That's an expression
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We use yasser to say that
He's pretty easy pretty easy
Something all admit that only Trump is going to be able to do in the Trump administration
We're going to be able to do it. I think Putin even admitted that
Biden never tried
Europe has failed to bring peace and Zelensky probably wants to maybe he wants to keep the gravy train going
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I don't know. What's the problem, but he hasn't been able he's very upset that he wasn't invited
He could have come if he wanted to but that he wasn't invited to come
He wasn't invited he could have come if he wanted to but that he wasn't invited to Saudi Arabia, but
He's been working for three years. He's never been even meeting so phone calls to stop this war. It's a horrible thing
I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job
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His country is shattered and millions and millions of people have unnecessarily died
And you can't bring a war to an end if you don't talk to both sides you got to talk
They haven't been talking for three years so
There you have it from Donald Trump
What you get is hits? I think all the all the all the right points here is that
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you know
You have to understand and I talked about this yesterday is that
There is no way that Ukraine can win this war just it's impossible
It's just it's just not it's just not physically possible in what they have right
There's no there's no there is no ending where they start, you know banging down the streets of Moscow
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Or that Russia just says okay. We're good. We had our fun. We're just gonna leave now
That's not gonna happen either. They can't they can't let that happen
and
Russia can as I've said before Russia can keep up a war for a long time because they don't care
They don't care how many people they lose. I don't care how much money they have to spend
And it really in reality. It's been doing great for them
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It's been doing great for them. It's how much money they have cost the West, you know
Hundreds of billions of dollars not just the United States but other countries as well a big part of that being the United States
but just thinking about how much that has
Caused cost the United States in the West. That's that's a win in and of itself for them
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Just be just in the fact that
That you know, even Biden said that that's caused inflation
So this has been something that Russia can just keep going on forever
Especially if we start spending it and right now if Zelensky was smart, he would understand that this is his opportunity
This is the only opportunity has to have any kind of negotiation
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because
Right now the United States
Funds that war for I mean almost the whole thing
and so
This is an opportunity where at least
Now they have something something they can gain because the United States is doing that
But if he keeps this up if he keeps talking bad about the United States and talking bad about Donald Trump
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then
We'll just say all right have fun on your own then pal and then you have nothing to negotiate with
He has then again once we pulled out Russia really has no interest in prolonging this thing
So you just ramp up and get what they need to get done
And so in the eu they're not going to they're not going to be able to ramp up
They can give a little bit of money to Ukraine, but they don't have enough money for their own defense much less the defense of someone else
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You know, you know essentially Ukraine wants the United States to
Defend their their country. That's not how it works. And even Zelensky has said that later is that
Any kind of peace talks who require the United States to make sure that ukrainian security is is
Uh is is guaranteed. No, that's not our job to guarantee your security
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Again, we can negotiate with with Russia
As far as how this how this thing is going to end but at the end of the day, you're still responsible
For defending your own country
You know, we're not going to send our troops over there. We're not going to have our troops get killed for your for your liberty
That has
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Ukraine does nothing for us
There's nothing about Ukraine that is that is beneficial to us. We already have allies in the area
We have poland. We have other we have other places that we have a strong presence. We don't need ukraine
We've never had bases in there to begin with so it's not like it's a it'd be a gain for us
Especially after spending all this money
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Uh, it's like hey, you gotta you gotta be on your own heel and you're not going to join nato just for us to
Pull us into that war and that's what we're doing
for us to pull us into that war and that's one thing I always you know ask people and because you see a lot of
ukrainian flags flying in
Alexandria, Virginia the dc area because they make money off of it, right?
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They those guys all those people in those nice expensive houses and mansions in that area
They they they're war mongers because they make money off of these wars
And so you see the ukrainian flags flying and then you know, I I want to ask him is
Are you willing to have your son or daughter die for that war?
But the thing is those people in those mansions is never their son or daughter who has to die. It's it's it's it's
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People down a lot of people down here in the south. It's the working class people who send their kids over there
They're the ones who join the military
Um, and they're the ones who end up dying for the rich people's war
That's just not that's that's and i'm not i'm not that's not something I want to fight for something
I want to die for it's not something
Um, that's not fighting for your country. It's not fighting for liberty. That's fighting for profit
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Um, and it's on the backs of working-class americans and their children
Their fathers their mothers their brothers their sisters you name it. Um, that's who it falls on under
You know, it reminds me of uh the song fortunate son by credence curewater revival, which he talks about in the vietnam war
You know, um that that song was about is that you know, we're not the fortunate ones, right?
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Um, we're not the ones who uh who who have to get to avoid the war. We have to fight the war on your behalf
um for the people who make the money off the war
and that's exactly what's going on with ukraine and these people and
Enough is enough
Uh, and zelensky now is he's he's he's got uh, I don't know why he's he's been propped up for so long
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That he maybe he thinks he's invincible
but
Americans don't want to be involved in that
Um the vast majority of americans don't
Again when you start thinking about how much money is going out there and you look at the people suffering here in the united states
It's like wait a minute
Um, this is why donald trump was elected donald trump donald trump did not hide the fact that he was going to end
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The ukrainian war he campaigned on it several times
Um, this is nothing new everything that trump is doing right now. None of it is new, right?
None of it is a surprise everything he's doing right now. He said he would do on the campaign trail
And therefore that's what the people voted for so this is not like they voted for him and all of a sudden
He started to change his mind about everything. No, in fact, he's acting the opposite
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He's doing everything that he said he would so this is the will of the american people again
He got the popular vote, too
This is their will
And they need to follow it and they need to get behind it and zelensky needs to understand that as well
So hey, you don't you're not as well liked as you think you are pal
You walk in those little circles and you go to dc and you know when he goes to visit them
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You go visit all those people
Um and uh in that little circle sure they're gonna feel like they support you
That's not the american people what goes on in dc is not the american people. I can promise you that
I'll also remember while living up there
um, there is an invitation to a party at the ukrainian embassy funded and sponsored by
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Raytheon boeing those kind of countries having a party at the ukrainian embassy while they're at war
And being put on by defense contractors. It was the most glaring thing I have ever seen they party it up in dc
While other people suffer
And that's exactly what they would do if it was to send us over there
So no, we're not going to guarantee your security at all ukraine
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Um, we're not sending our we have our own border to worry about that's what we need to send our troops
Our troops need to go to our border. We need to worry about our invasion
Right the invasion coming from our southern border for them drugs and illegal migrants and dangerous people
That's the war that we need to focus on that's the war that our soldiers need to focus on is protecting the homeland
And guess what? That's a direct connection there, right?
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um
Most people anybody in the army have no problem taking up arms to defend this own country, especially in our own land
That's what we got to focus on. We got to focus on our own security, which has been completely forgotten under the biden administration
That was it was just it was just not there
Right, they let all these people just flood our gates and our security while we spent money over in ukraine
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And again, this is why the people voted them out and voted donald trump in
Is to change that and say yeah, we want security. We want security here and we want we want to make sure
Uh, we we we utilize our troops in a way that benefits americans
And for the first time donald trump and for the first president a long time is utilizing troops that benefit
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Americans not benefit other countries not to benefit defense contractors not to benefit wealthy benefactors
None of that. Yeah, that's also the craziest thing to me is you know the democrats
Uh, you know, they're supposed to you know supposed to be all against
Um, you know the wealthy and uh all these all this stuff that helps the wealthy when they're the biggest culprits of doing it
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They're the biggest ones and they said that that this this ukrainian war has been very very good
For very wealthy individuals. It just made them that much more wealthier
And they just continue to get more wealthy as that gravy train comes. That's what donald trump says
He you know zelensky wants this war to go on too possibly because zelensky is getting that
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Right and as he talked about he's essentially zelensky is not an elected leader anymore. He suspended elections
He's essentially a dictator of that country
There is no uh, he said oh we're in a war so we have to suspend the elections. What are you talking about?
That's not a thing
Uh, you can still hold elections to just say oh we're gonna suspend it
You know the united states never suspended its elections while we were in very heavy war didn't happen
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um
That's just a that that is just a pretext for dictators to retain power
And then we'll talk about donald trump want to be a dictator. We'll look at zelensky. Look at what he's done
Because you think about what dictators do what do they do? Well, they want to consolidate power
They don't want to run against anybody
They want to be chosen and they own that. So
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What do you have? Well, you have that's that's what zelensky's done
And then you have well, they shut down the media. They shut down any kind of any type of
of free press or free changing of information
What's exactly what zelensky's doing? That's also exactly what biden was doing think about it
What how how often did biden talk to the media now look at donald trump?
How often is he talking to the media despite the media hating his guts?
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He's talking to them more so than anybody he told interviews right there in the oval office all the time
He's the most open president. There's there's been in a long long time
Uh, and he's not afraid because he knows that the people are on his side
Um, and they can try to vilify him and everything that they want
but
Donald trump knows the real villains are those who are going to hurt america
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He's the real villains are the ones that don't look to america's best interest. They look for their own best interest
And donald trump, he's just here looking for america's best interest. He didn't have to run again
He didn't need to run again. He's already president
um
He doesn't he doesn't need the you know, he doesn't gain any money by doing this think of how trump has lost by continuing to run for
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By continuing to run for president to be president his own life was put at risk
Yet he continues to fight because he has nothing else. He has nothing here to lose
um, there's no reason for donald trump that uh to uh to go against what the american people want just just in his own interest
so
That's the the key thing that you're seeing here and the vladimir zolinski really needs to watch what he's doing
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because
He is very close because donald trump is this close and he he's working with uh, he's working obviously with
the uh with the republican in congress, um
and
We're gonna and the the the whole taste of this war has soured over the years
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There is the amount of people who support and just continue to go less and less and less
Especially if you really start to look into it
Um again from the service. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, we're against anybody invading somebody sure
but
Do you want to pay for it out of your own paycheck? That's what you've been doing
Uh all that money and again, you see that how much that that uh federal withholding is from your check
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You see how much that how much that money is?
That has been going a piece of that has been going to russia you have been I mean to ukraine you have been paying for it
So you asked anybody out here in the street is like, oh you support ukraine
Well, do you know that you know, however many five ten dollars out of your paycheck every time
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Has been going over there. What do you think about that?
Where would you rather that money have gone?
Um a would you have rather just put it in your own pocket because that's one thing we're working on
It's one thing that donald trump is working on returning that money back to the people
Or two money using that money to actually help the united states to help our own security
Uh to help uh to help people in general who are struggling?
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not
Not to be giving it to the hands of bureaucrats to giving it to the hands of people who make money off of human suffering
That's exactly what a lot of these defense contractors do they make money off of war war is their business
And they want to put it on the backs of americans
They want to put it on the backs of americans both through their paycheck and possibly through their lives
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And that is something that is that donald trump will not stand for and that's something he will not do
And that's what the american people do not want and zelensky needs to understand that as well
Is that he has a very limited time here and his time his time is vastly closing?
Um, and he needs to get his he needs to he needs to understand what the situation is
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Because he's not as well liked he thinks he is and people are about tired of him people are about tired of his war
And if he doesn't take advantage of it now, he could lose the whole thing if he doesn't watch it
Or they could just replace him and donald trump could work to do that as well if he doesn't watch out
To put a leader in there who is going to work with the united states and not their own interest
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We know that zelensky has had all kinds of backdoor dealings with the bidens and a bunch of other
Bunch of illicit activities has been going on with that guy. It's a very it's a very corrupt country
It always has been
And so it's like russia russia is a corrupt country. Oh, they're all corrupt countries over there again
This is not good guy versus bad guy. This is bad guy versus slightly worse guy
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Um, that's all that that's all that there is and it's time that we look at saying hey, let's bring it into this thing
Democrats have always said that republicans are warmongers. Well, who's really been the warmongers think of how many
Wars have started under the biden administration
And how many started under donald trump will they answer zero under donald trump donald trump's the one who ends wars
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and that starts them and
That's because again, he's there to look for ultimate peace
And that includes over in israel and hamas as well as we look to push forward that and sometimes it takes brashness
Sometimes it takes decisiveness
And that's exactly what we have in the white house right now
All right, we're going to take our um, our next break right here when we get back. I want to talk about donald trump and ivf
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So if you want to call him during the break number six, oh one eight seven nine zero zero zero two
But keep it tuned to the full story on wyab 103.9
Alright the general welcome back here to the full story on wyab 103.9
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and uh, sorry again for the uh for the extremely annoying and piercing
Bagpipe that you hear there
Um, I just love when they put that in there because they know how much I hate the bagpipe
Um, and uh, especially that one because that is the most piercing. It's the high notes, too
It just it just doesn't uh, just doesn't help anybody
Um to hear that at this point in the day actually any point in the day, but especially this point in the day
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um, it's definitely not something that uh
something definitely not something that's something you want to hear in the uh in the
Uh in this in this hour, but I want to move to our next story, which is on ivf in vitro fertilization
So donald trump on tuesday signed an executive order aiming to reduce the cost of in vitro fertilization
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Which is a medical procedure that helps people facing infertility build their families
The order said americans need reliable access to ivf and more affordable treatment options as
As the cost per cycle can range from 12 000 to 25 000 dollars
Providing support awareness and access to affordable
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Affordable fertility treatments can help these families navigate their path to parenthood with hope and confidence
The order instructed the assistant to the president for domestic policy to give trump a list of policy recommendations
on protecting ivf access
And quote aggressively reducing out-of-pocket and health plan costs for ivf treatment within 90 days
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Of course ivf became a talking point during the 2024 presidential campaign
When alabama agreed to protect in vitro fertilization providers from legal liability a couple weeks after the state supreme court ruled that frozen embryos
Can be considered children under state law
So that's the interesting thing about how ivf works and why there may be
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Moral issues with it is that essentially they gather
um, they take a bunch of eggs from a female and then they can
um, they can essentially fertilize those eggs through either
Anonymous sperm donors or someone that the woman has given so say like her husband for example
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um, and they can
Um fertilize those eggs and then essentially
grow them a little bit um for lack of a better word grow probably isn't the best word, but um,
essentially let them grow a little bit in a um
In a lab essentially and then implant those um implant one of those embryos
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into
The the female and so she can have the baby so it helps out for people who have trouble conceiving naturally
Um for whatever reason um medical issue medical reasons, uh age has it makes it tougher
Um if they have fallopian tube issues all kind of things that ivf
can help
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Now the problem is for a lot of people morally is that the embryos that aren't used
are then um discarded
and so
Again, when we say embryos we're talking very very early early stage embryos, right? Um, we're not talking
You know little babies walking around um in a in a in a lab
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but if a state
The issue becomes that if a state
If it's the state's policy that life begins at conception
then technically these embryos are already conceived because they um again have been
grown
um in this lab environment, um, but they are in fact
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They are in fact embryos and so by discarding them that could be a violation of
um the state's abortion laws because you're essentially
Aborting those lives, but the reason they do
Multiple ones is to make sure it takes to make sure there's no abnormalities with some of them
Um, they can make sure that the healthiest of embryos can be implanted now the flip side of that is that again
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These aren't naturally conceived. So there's the argument that well if it's not a natural conception is it
Does it fall under that type of law?
And two a lot of the ones that again that they are
Throwing out again, maybe not the best word discarding probably also not the best word, but that's what they are
Um is the fact that these would not be viable anyway
Um again, they're just making sure they use the most the most healthy ones
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So they'd be unhealthy or unviable or whatever reason and that's the reason they're getting rid of them
but that was a big thing because a lot of a lot of families have relied on ivf to get their
um to get their children and uh, it's they've been very successful in it and
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Trump during the campaign trail said he strongly supported the availability of ivf and a june poll from the associated press
Found that six in ten u.s. Adults protecting ivs
ivf with 26 26 neutral and about one in ten opposed so
Again, a vast majority of well not a vast a good majority of americans either support it or just neutral about it
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Um, and to me, you know, that's always been the test of any moral issue, right is what the people
What the people it should be up to the people
Um, not to the not to the courts to decide
um, I don't think just like uh, just like the just like um the um
the
supreme court case on abortion
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Which again filed out of here from mississippi
um, just like that case
um
It's it needs to be just determined by the states. There's no
Constitutional right to ivf now we can have policy to protect it. Okay, and that's what part of this is
Um is that that's but that's again, that's a policy directive and there's nothing
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There's nothing against the constitution to protect it, right? Just like there's nothing in the constitution to prevent it
Uh, those are two very similar things
Um, so in 2018 which is a couple years, I guess is the last result that they have um
The the assisted assisted reproductive technology which includes ivf
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Contributed to about two percent of all infants born into the united states. So again, not a big chunk
But two percent is you know, it's not it's not a small amount either as a total
um
as a total
As a total as I mean as a raw number it's quite a bit
And so again, but it's very very expensive because it has to be done in cycles
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Um, and again, it may take more than one. So they again they have a bunch of these embryos essentially frozen and they'll
Try to get the best ones and they'll try to implant one and a lot of times
And I would say most times is that the first one is not always successful
So it may take a couple different tries to get one
One that takes again, probably not the best word, but um, I can't think of a better word to say in that
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um
And one one, uh one argument one one thing that's been debated is whether insurance should cover the procedure
um, so
The problem with that is again the fact that it is so expensive
Um, and again, I I think it's something that's should
If an employer wants to offer it they can absolutely offer it and more large employers are offering the coverage to attract and keep workers
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um
so
But again what democrats want to do is they want to force people to cover it and that to me is kind of a problem
Because the issue with that is that because it's so expensive and so only two percent of actual births use it
that's going to cause
Extreme expenses and the raising of premiums for everybody else to be able to cover it now if they want to
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Again, if a company wants to offer it more power to them, right?
Go ahead, you know thumbs up
But to force a requirement to force it to be covered that would just be unnecessary cost to other people
Um, and it's not always perfect. So there has been some mix-ups in fact just
Uh, just just recently a new story came out that a woman
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Uh got the wrong baby implanted. Uh, this is absolutely crazy
So i'm gonna play this story for you because uh, this is uh, very interesting
To uh, one of the things that can that can happen. This is uh from an abc report
Boy at five months old after learning she was implanted with the wrong embryo. Here's nightline anchor juju chang
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Tonight a georgia woman is suing her fertility clinic after a heartbreaking ivf mix-up
Christina murray was implanted with the wrong embryo only to later give up the five-month-old baby boy
she desperately loved I was his whole world and
Having to hand him to complete strangers
Christina a former nurse says she knew something was off the minute. She saw her newborn
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She and her sperm donor were white but her baby was african-american
That's right. She's a white woman and gave and gave birth to a black baby
It was uh quite obvious when that uh, when that came out. It's like wait a minute. Wait a minute something's not right here
Again, if you're watching live stream, you see the picture they blacked out. They they blocked out the baby's face
But that is a full-on black baby
Um, it is sort of like what was that movie?
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Well with a guy his wife his his him his him and his white wife his white wife just has
Uh a bunch of black a bunch of black babies and he ends up raising him after she leaves him
It was great great movie. I can't remember the name of it. It was a great movie. That's right
But she had a black baby
um, and uh, oh can you just a little bit longer my first thought was he's absolutely beautiful
it's gorgeous and my second thought was
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What happened
You knew I knew immediately I was hoping I would hope she would know immediately
I mean it is like this is a this is like straight up west. I hear an african baby
And she is as pale as I am
It was a mix-up in the sperm donor
um
And that he would be genetically somewhat mine
But my next thought was if he is not mine and he's someone else's embryo. Can he be taken?
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Immediately fear immediately fear and a dna test would confirm those fears probably one of the worst moments of my life
What little bit of hope I had that maybe it was the sperm and that he was mine was gone
Christina says the clinic found the biological parents who were also clients
They sued her for custody and christina gave up the only son she'd ever known
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I can distinctly remember walking out with an empty stroller
Pushing an empty stroller back to my car in a statement coastal fertility specialist says this was an isolated event with no further patients
Affected adding the clinic deeply regrets the distress caused by an unprecedented error that resulted in an embryo transfer mix-up
While christina says the clinic told her her embryos are accounted for she's skeptical and she's speaking out to warn other would-be
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Parents about what she says are the perils of the ivf industry
Okay, so there you have it again. I'm not against ivf
But I I was getting prepared for the story and then I saw that come up
I was like man, what are the craziest things and what uh, you know for her too. I mean
I know, you know, you have a black baby. That's a I mean that's that's that's kind of a it's almost like from a comedy
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But it's it's very sad that she had to
Go through that and actually birth this child that wasn't hers
I mean completely not hers, right?
Wasn't her egg with someone else's egg with someone else's sperm
Obviously wasn't her sperm but it wasn't the sperm that she that she she that she signed up to get
From an anonymous donor which you know, they told her it was a white guy
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um, and then I mean I think it is
Kind of uh, it was kind of big on her to uh, just say you know what? I'm gonna give the child back to its family
Um, even though I birthed it i'm gonna give it to its actual biological parents
um, because I think that it's going to create that that saves a legal issue because um,
I actually don't know how that would look out in courts. Right? I mean it wasn't her fault
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Um, she birthed this child that is not genetically hers
Um now again, that's a that's a very very rare incidence
I just thought I had to play that since i'm covering this ivf story because it's a pretty crazy one
Um, but typically ivf you do get the you do get the right embryos
Um, and like I said, donald trump is saying he's going to protect it
But we're not going to go as far as saying we're going to force
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um, we're going to force
Uh insurance to cover it which would just cost people a lot more money
All right, we're going to take our last break right here. We'll get back
We'll do this day in history, but keep it tuned to the full story on wyab 103.9. All right, ladies
gentlemen, welcome back here to the full story on wyab 103.9 as we get to this day in history
So on this day, february 20th, 1962
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Astronaut john glenn became the first american to orbit the earth rocking into space aboard nasa's friendship 7
As part of the mercury atlas 6 mission glenn circled the planet three times reaching speeds of
17,500 miles per hour and a flight that lasted just under five hours
But the mission wasn't without danger midway through a warning light signaled that friendship 7's heat shield might be loose
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Raising fears that glenn would burn up on reentry
NASA instructed him to keep their retro pack attached as a precaution
And as a spacecraft streaked through the atmosphere flames surrounded the capsule glenn described it as a real fireball outside
But when the parachutes deployed and he splashed down safely in the atlantic ocean
America breathed a sigh of relief his mission was a turning point in the space race proving the u.s
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Could match the soviet space achievements who had sent a man into space just earlier
Glenn became a national hero and his legacy soared even higher when in 1998 at age 77
He returned to space aboard the space shuttle discovery becoming the oldest person to fly in space
All right, that's all I have for you guys today. We'll see you again tomorrow
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But until then my name is Matthew bishop and you've heard the full story
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back here to the full story on WYAB 103.9
As we have full power here in the station unlike yesterday
We're fighting a little bit of some power issues and going back and we're completely fully
Live again on the live streamers. We had cameras going out and things going out boards going out
It was a it was a fun time as we got had a plan to three hours yesterday and got to about two and a quarter
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Of it before we completely
Had to get cut out
But we are fully back now and fully broadcasting it live for all to hear
as we're gonna get back into
the
growing story of what's going on with the relations between us and Ukraine as
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Vladimir Zelensky as
Thinks he can thinks he can talk back to Donald Trump think he can
Kind of go against him even though we fund his country and his war
and so we're gonna talk about that the growing we
Kind of brought that up yesterday the the growing expanse of that as it started to take off once the United States had talks with
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Had opened up talks for the first time with Russia in Saudi Arabia this past
This earlier this week and I think on is on Tuesday. They had talks
And that angered Zelensky that he wasn't invited
But like I said when you don't pay for your own war, that's kind of the way it works as well
As the EU wasn't there as well. And of course, they don't pay for it either
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So it's really it was the two parties that are paying for this war the ones who got together
To talk and that angered Zelensky. He threw some words and then you know, as I said yesterday
Trump is not the one you want to do that with
He's not the guy especially when you're especially if you were in bed with Biden to begin with not a great thing
So we're gonna cover some of Trump's latest comments that he made at
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At a meeting with business leaders
Last night, we're gonna play that for you when talking about that and I also want to talk
I didn't get to it yesterday. I want to talk about the
Expansion of IVF that Donald Trump has talked about it. I do want to get to that
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So we are going to force that whether we're going to be at least our second story
So we have time to get to it. Usually
Within our first hour here. We have time for about two big stories
Before we before we get to the end. So those are the two big ones. I want to make sure that we cover this morning
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there's also
there's also
Bodies returned of children who were killed by the by Hamas who had taken hostage and killed as hostages
If we have time, we'll give a little bit more update on that
and of course as you heard there at the top not really much to
Talk about as it was talked about there by Chris Davis at the top of the hour
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the Mississippi lieutenant governor Delbert Ho's been passed out on the
Senate floor yesterday not really much of a story to cover as far as something to go in depth
But he was making a speech there on the Senate floor and just passed out
Of course, he's 77 years old. He said after he was brought to the hospital. He said he was just dehydrated
So hopefully that is it is it is dry out there. Even though it's cold
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That's one thing to remember is that you know, we think of dehydration too, especially for older individuals
You know, we think of dehydration we think of the summer, right? So it's it's hot
and you're
Obviously, you know sweating a lot so you're it's you can definitely get dehydrated with some but we always think about it in the summer
But you have to remember in the winter, even though it's cold. It's still very very dry
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It's very the air is much drier
So it's very easy to get dehydrated in the winter as well. So always make sure you're drinking your water
Always staying hydrated is an important thing and
That's just a reminder of it, especially for on it's important for everybody
Of course everybody to be make sure they're hydrated. But of course like anybody else older individuals are much more at
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risk of that dehydration
So just stay hydrated out there folks
Of course a lot of hot air going in the Mississippi Senate right now
A lot of bills being talked about school choice being of course a big one
So a lot of a lot of big things going on there a lot of hot air as well
I guess you would say in the in the in the in the chambers which could lead to that as well
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So but again the stories we want to we want to talk about today are
Following up on the Trump Zelinsky jab trading
I should say and then the IVF is going to be our second story
And if we have time to go into more detail about the hostage situation
We have time to go into more detail about the hostages that were really young hostages that were brutally killed by Hamas
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as as that war unfolds as well like always if you want to call in during the breaks number 601-879-0002
Keep it tuned here to the full story on WIAB 103.9
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back here to the full story on WIAB
103.9 as we get into our main story. So yesterday we talked about how
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Ukraine
President Zelensky they call him that was not too happy about being was not too happy about being
excluded from the talks when with Donald Trump and Vladimir
with well not Donald Trump but Donald Trump's administration with the Putin administration in in in
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Saudi Arabia that Marco Rubio was a part of and when they talked about where they can move in as far as how can they move this
move towards peace for the Ukrainian conflict and
Ukrainian President Zelensky responded to the criticism
of Kiev as well as himself as well as where this is going by
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telling you that Donald Trump is living in disinformation space created by Russia and this I thought was just
was absolutely
Was absolutely just really rich
coming from
Someone who doesn't have allow freedom of the press or anything like that
and they
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Say that he's living in a disinformation space. We have no information from what Ukraine itself
I guess we actually really don't know what is going on over there. We never really do know
and for him to say that Donald Trump is living in disinformation space is
quite
Quite ballsy of him to to say that
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because again, you don't bite the hand that feeds you and
That of course Donald Trump is not one to just take things take things lightly
and so
He has
Made a statement. I'm trying to get this video pulled up here
as
We get it over here on the live stream
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for some reason the computer is
Not wanting to cooperate too much with me
I don't know what's the history just gets it just gets too cold and
They the computer just wants to just be all buggy on us here
Okay, get this video loaded up here
but Donald Trump was speaking down in Miami and
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He gets a video to it
So this is him speaking down in Miami about
Vladimir Zelensky is quite good. You know once again Donald Trump's not the kind of guy that you want to
That you want to start trading jabs with especially when he writes
The when he writes when our country is the one he writes the checks. So here he is
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But think of it a
modestly successful comedian
President Zelensky talked the United States of America into spending
350 billion dollars to go into a war that
Basically couldn't be one
That never had to start and never would have started if I was president not even a chance and it didn't start for four years
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He refuses to have elections is slow and the real Ukrainian polls
I mean, how can you be high with every city is being demolished? It's hard to be somebody said oh no his polls are good
Give me a break
Every city is being demolished
They look like a demolition site every single one of them and the only thing
He was really good at was playing Joe Biden like a fiddle. He played him like a fiddle. That's an expression
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We use yasser to say that
He's pretty easy pretty easy
Something all admit that only Trump is going to be able to do in the Trump administration
We're going to be able to do it. I think Putin even admitted that
Biden never tried
Europe has failed to bring peace and Zelensky probably wants to maybe he wants to keep the gravy train going
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I don't know. What's the problem, but he hasn't been able he's very upset that he wasn't invited
He could have come if he wanted to but that he wasn't invited to come
He wasn't invited he could have come if he wanted to but that he wasn't invited to Saudi Arabia, but
He's been working for three years. He's never been even meeting so phone calls to stop this war. It's a horrible thing
I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job
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His country is shattered and millions and millions of people have unnecessarily died
And you can't bring a war to an end if you don't talk to both sides you got to talk
They haven't been talking for three years so
There you have it from Donald Trump
What you get is hits? I think all the all the all the right points here is that
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you know
You have to understand and I talked about this yesterday is that
There is no way that Ukraine can win this war just it's impossible
It's just it's just not it's just not physically possible in what they have right
There's no there's no there is no ending where they start, you know banging down the streets of Moscow
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Or that Russia just says okay. We're good. We had our fun. We're just gonna leave now
That's not gonna happen either. They can't they can't let that happen
and
Russia can as I've said before Russia can keep up a war for a long time because they don't care
They don't care how many people they lose. I don't care how much money they have to spend
And it really in reality. It's been doing great for them
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It's been doing great for them. It's how much money they have cost the West, you know
Hundreds of billions of dollars not just the United States but other countries as well a big part of that being the United States
but just thinking about how much that has
Caused cost the United States in the West. That's that's a win in and of itself for them
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Just be just in the fact that
That you know, even Biden said that that's caused inflation
So this has been something that Russia can just keep going on forever
Especially if we start spending it and right now if Zelensky was smart, he would understand that this is his opportunity
This is the only opportunity has to have any kind of negotiation
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because
Right now the United States
Funds that war for I mean almost the whole thing
and so
This is an opportunity where at least
Now they have something something they can gain because the United States is doing that
But if he keeps this up if he keeps talking bad about the United States and talking bad about Donald Trump
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then
We'll just say all right have fun on your own then pal and then you have nothing to negotiate with
He has then again once we pulled out Russia really has no interest in prolonging this thing
So you just ramp up and get what they need to get done
And so in the eu they're not going to they're not going to be able to ramp up
They can give a little bit of money to Ukraine, but they don't have enough money for their own defense much less the defense of someone else
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You know, you know essentially Ukraine wants the United States to
Defend their their country. That's not how it works. And even Zelensky has said that later is that
Any kind of peace talks who require the United States to make sure that ukrainian security is is
Uh is is guaranteed. No, that's not our job to guarantee your security
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Again, we can negotiate with with Russia
As far as how this how this thing is going to end but at the end of the day, you're still responsible
For defending your own country
You know, we're not going to send our troops over there. We're not going to have our troops get killed for your for your liberty
That has
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Ukraine does nothing for us
There's nothing about Ukraine that is that is beneficial to us. We already have allies in the area
We have poland. We have other we have other places that we have a strong presence. We don't need ukraine
We've never had bases in there to begin with so it's not like it's a it'd be a gain for us
Especially after spending all this money
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Uh, it's like hey, you gotta you gotta be on your own heel and you're not going to join nato just for us to
Pull us into that war and that's what we're doing
for us to pull us into that war and that's one thing I always you know ask people and because you see a lot of
ukrainian flags flying in
Alexandria, Virginia the dc area because they make money off of it, right?
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They those guys all those people in those nice expensive houses and mansions in that area
They they they're war mongers because they make money off of these wars
And so you see the ukrainian flags flying and then you know, I I want to ask him is
Are you willing to have your son or daughter die for that war?
But the thing is those people in those mansions is never their son or daughter who has to die. It's it's it's it's
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People down a lot of people down here in the south. It's the working class people who send their kids over there
They're the ones who join the military
Um, and they're the ones who end up dying for the rich people's war
That's just not that's that's and i'm not i'm not that's not something I want to fight for something
I want to die for it's not something
Um, that's not fighting for your country. It's not fighting for liberty. That's fighting for profit
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Um, and it's on the backs of working-class americans and their children
Their fathers their mothers their brothers their sisters you name it. Um, that's who it falls on under
You know, it reminds me of uh the song fortunate son by credence curewater revival, which he talks about in the vietnam war
You know, um that that song was about is that you know, we're not the fortunate ones, right?
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Um, we're not the ones who uh who who have to get to avoid the war. We have to fight the war on your behalf
um for the people who make the money off the war
and that's exactly what's going on with ukraine and these people and
Enough is enough
Uh, and zelensky now is he's he's he's got uh, I don't know why he's he's been propped up for so long
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That he maybe he thinks he's invincible
but
Americans don't want to be involved in that
Um the vast majority of americans don't
Again when you start thinking about how much money is going out there and you look at the people suffering here in the united states
It's like wait a minute
Um, this is why donald trump was elected donald trump donald trump did not hide the fact that he was going to end
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The ukrainian war he campaigned on it several times
Um, this is nothing new everything that trump is doing right now. None of it is new, right?
None of it is a surprise everything he's doing right now. He said he would do on the campaign trail
And therefore that's what the people voted for so this is not like they voted for him and all of a sudden
He started to change his mind about everything. No, in fact, he's acting the opposite
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He's doing everything that he said he would so this is the will of the american people again
He got the popular vote, too
This is their will
And they need to follow it and they need to get behind it and zelensky needs to understand that as well
So hey, you don't you're not as well liked as you think you are pal
You walk in those little circles and you go to dc and you know when he goes to visit them
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You go visit all those people
Um and uh in that little circle sure they're gonna feel like they support you
That's not the american people what goes on in dc is not the american people. I can promise you that
I'll also remember while living up there
um, there is an invitation to a party at the ukrainian embassy funded and sponsored by
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Raytheon boeing those kind of countries having a party at the ukrainian embassy while they're at war
And being put on by defense contractors. It was the most glaring thing I have ever seen they party it up in dc
While other people suffer
And that's exactly what they would do if it was to send us over there
So no, we're not going to guarantee your security at all ukraine
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Um, we're not sending our we have our own border to worry about that's what we need to send our troops
Our troops need to go to our border. We need to worry about our invasion
Right the invasion coming from our southern border for them drugs and illegal migrants and dangerous people
That's the war that we need to focus on that's the war that our soldiers need to focus on is protecting the homeland
And guess what? That's a direct connection there, right?
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um
Most people anybody in the army have no problem taking up arms to defend this own country, especially in our own land
That's what we got to focus on. We got to focus on our own security, which has been completely forgotten under the biden administration
That was it was just it was just not there
Right, they let all these people just flood our gates and our security while we spent money over in ukraine
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And again, this is why the people voted them out and voted donald trump in
Is to change that and say yeah, we want security. We want security here and we want we want to make sure
Uh, we we we utilize our troops in a way that benefits americans
And for the first time donald trump and for the first president a long time is utilizing troops that benefit
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Americans not benefit other countries not to benefit defense contractors not to benefit wealthy benefactors
None of that. Yeah, that's also the craziest thing to me is you know the democrats
Uh, you know, they're supposed to you know supposed to be all against
Um, you know the wealthy and uh all these all this stuff that helps the wealthy when they're the biggest culprits of doing it
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They're the biggest ones and they said that that this this ukrainian war has been very very good
For very wealthy individuals. It just made them that much more wealthier
And they just continue to get more wealthy as that gravy train comes. That's what donald trump says
He you know zelensky wants this war to go on too possibly because zelensky is getting that
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Right and as he talked about he's essentially zelensky is not an elected leader anymore. He suspended elections
He's essentially a dictator of that country
There is no uh, he said oh we're in a war so we have to suspend the elections. What are you talking about?
That's not a thing
Uh, you can still hold elections to just say oh we're gonna suspend it
You know the united states never suspended its elections while we were in very heavy war didn't happen
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um
That's just a that that is just a pretext for dictators to retain power
And then we'll talk about donald trump want to be a dictator. We'll look at zelensky. Look at what he's done
Because you think about what dictators do what do they do? Well, they want to consolidate power
They don't want to run against anybody
They want to be chosen and they own that. So
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What do you have? Well, you have that's that's what zelensky's done
And then you have well, they shut down the media. They shut down any kind of any type of
of free press or free changing of information
What's exactly what zelensky's doing? That's also exactly what biden was doing think about it
What how how often did biden talk to the media now look at donald trump?
How often is he talking to the media despite the media hating his guts?
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He's talking to them more so than anybody he told interviews right there in the oval office all the time
He's the most open president. There's there's been in a long long time
Uh, and he's not afraid because he knows that the people are on his side
Um, and they can try to vilify him and everything that they want
but
Donald trump knows the real villains are those who are going to hurt america
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He's the real villains are the ones that don't look to america's best interest. They look for their own best interest
And donald trump, he's just here looking for america's best interest. He didn't have to run again
He didn't need to run again. He's already president
um
He doesn't he doesn't need the you know, he doesn't gain any money by doing this think of how trump has lost by continuing to run for
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By continuing to run for president to be president his own life was put at risk
Yet he continues to fight because he has nothing else. He has nothing here to lose
um, there's no reason for donald trump that uh to uh to go against what the american people want just just in his own interest
so
That's the the key thing that you're seeing here and the vladimir zolinski really needs to watch what he's doing
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because
He is very close because donald trump is this close and he he's working with uh, he's working obviously with
the uh with the republican in congress, um
and
We're gonna and the the the whole taste of this war has soured over the years
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There is the amount of people who support and just continue to go less and less and less
Especially if you really start to look into it
Um again from the service. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, we're against anybody invading somebody sure
but
Do you want to pay for it out of your own paycheck? That's what you've been doing
Uh all that money and again, you see that how much that that uh federal withholding is from your check
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You see how much that how much that money is?
That has been going a piece of that has been going to russia you have been I mean to ukraine you have been paying for it
So you asked anybody out here in the street is like, oh you support ukraine
Well, do you know that you know, however many five ten dollars out of your paycheck every time
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Has been going over there. What do you think about that?
Where would you rather that money have gone?
Um a would you have rather just put it in your own pocket because that's one thing we're working on
It's one thing that donald trump is working on returning that money back to the people
Or two money using that money to actually help the united states to help our own security
Uh to help uh to help people in general who are struggling?
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not
Not to be giving it to the hands of bureaucrats to giving it to the hands of people who make money off of human suffering
That's exactly what a lot of these defense contractors do they make money off of war war is their business
And they want to put it on the backs of americans
They want to put it on the backs of americans both through their paycheck and possibly through their lives
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And that is something that is that donald trump will not stand for and that's something he will not do
And that's what the american people do not want and zelensky needs to understand that as well
Is that he has a very limited time here and his time his time is vastly closing?
Um, and he needs to get his he needs to he needs to understand what the situation is
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Because he's not as well liked he thinks he is and people are about tired of him people are about tired of his war
And if he doesn't take advantage of it now, he could lose the whole thing if he doesn't watch it
Or they could just replace him and donald trump could work to do that as well if he doesn't watch out
To put a leader in there who is going to work with the united states and not their own interest
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We know that zelensky has had all kinds of backdoor dealings with the bidens and a bunch of other
Bunch of illicit activities has been going on with that guy. It's a very it's a very corrupt country
It always has been
And so it's like russia russia is a corrupt country. Oh, they're all corrupt countries over there again
This is not good guy versus bad guy. This is bad guy versus slightly worse guy
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Um, that's all that that's all that there is and it's time that we look at saying hey, let's bring it into this thing
Democrats have always said that republicans are warmongers. Well, who's really been the warmongers think of how many
Wars have started under the biden administration
And how many started under donald trump will they answer zero under donald trump donald trump's the one who ends wars
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and that starts them and
That's because again, he's there to look for ultimate peace
And that includes over in israel and hamas as well as we look to push forward that and sometimes it takes brashness
Sometimes it takes decisiveness
And that's exactly what we have in the white house right now
All right, we're going to take our um, our next break right here when we get back. I want to talk about donald trump and ivf
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So if you want to call him during the break number six, oh one eight seven nine zero zero zero two
But keep it tuned to the full story on wyab 103.9
Alright the general welcome back here to the full story on wyab 103.9
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and uh, sorry again for the uh for the extremely annoying and piercing
Bagpipe that you hear there
Um, I just love when they put that in there because they know how much I hate the bagpipe
Um, and uh, especially that one because that is the most piercing. It's the high notes, too
It just it just doesn't uh, just doesn't help anybody
Um to hear that at this point in the day actually any point in the day, but especially this point in the day
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um, it's definitely not something that uh
something definitely not something that's something you want to hear in the uh in the
Uh in this in this hour, but I want to move to our next story, which is on ivf in vitro fertilization
So donald trump on tuesday signed an executive order aiming to reduce the cost of in vitro fertilization
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Which is a medical procedure that helps people facing infertility build their families
The order said americans need reliable access to ivf and more affordable treatment options as
As the cost per cycle can range from 12 000 to 25 000 dollars
Providing support awareness and access to affordable
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Affordable fertility treatments can help these families navigate their path to parenthood with hope and confidence
The order instructed the assistant to the president for domestic policy to give trump a list of policy recommendations
on protecting ivf access
And quote aggressively reducing out-of-pocket and health plan costs for ivf treatment within 90 days
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Of course ivf became a talking point during the 2024 presidential campaign
When alabama agreed to protect in vitro fertilization providers from legal liability a couple weeks after the state supreme court ruled that frozen embryos
Can be considered children under state law
So that's the interesting thing about how ivf works and why there may be
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Moral issues with it is that essentially they gather
um, they take a bunch of eggs from a female and then they can
um, they can essentially fertilize those eggs through either
Anonymous sperm donors or someone that the woman has given so say like her husband for example
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um, and they can
Um fertilize those eggs and then essentially
grow them a little bit um for lack of a better word grow probably isn't the best word, but um,
essentially let them grow a little bit in a um
In a lab essentially and then implant those um implant one of those embryos
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into
The the female and so she can have the baby so it helps out for people who have trouble conceiving naturally
Um for whatever reason um medical issue medical reasons, uh age has it makes it tougher
Um if they have fallopian tube issues all kind of things that ivf
can help
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Now the problem is for a lot of people morally is that the embryos that aren't used
are then um discarded
and so
Again, when we say embryos we're talking very very early early stage embryos, right? Um, we're not talking
You know little babies walking around um in a in a in a lab
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but if a state
The issue becomes that if a state
If it's the state's policy that life begins at conception
then technically these embryos are already conceived because they um again have been
grown
um in this lab environment, um, but they are in fact
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They are in fact embryos and so by discarding them that could be a violation of
um the state's abortion laws because you're essentially
Aborting those lives, but the reason they do
Multiple ones is to make sure it takes to make sure there's no abnormalities with some of them
Um, they can make sure that the healthiest of embryos can be implanted now the flip side of that is that again
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These aren't naturally conceived. So there's the argument that well if it's not a natural conception is it
Does it fall under that type of law?
And two a lot of the ones that again that they are
Throwing out again, maybe not the best word discarding probably also not the best word, but that's what they are
Um is the fact that these would not be viable anyway
Um again, they're just making sure they use the most the most healthy ones
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So they'd be unhealthy or unviable or whatever reason and that's the reason they're getting rid of them
but that was a big thing because a lot of a lot of families have relied on ivf to get their
um to get their children and uh, it's they've been very successful in it and
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Trump during the campaign trail said he strongly supported the availability of ivf and a june poll from the associated press
Found that six in ten u.s. Adults protecting ivs
ivf with 26 26 neutral and about one in ten opposed so
Again, a vast majority of well not a vast a good majority of americans either support it or just neutral about it
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Um, and to me, you know, that's always been the test of any moral issue, right is what the people
What the people it should be up to the people
Um, not to the not to the courts to decide
um, I don't think just like uh, just like the just like um the um
the
supreme court case on abortion
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Which again filed out of here from mississippi
um, just like that case
um
It's it needs to be just determined by the states. There's no
Constitutional right to ivf now we can have policy to protect it. Okay, and that's what part of this is
Um is that that's but that's again, that's a policy directive and there's nothing
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There's nothing against the constitution to protect it, right? Just like there's nothing in the constitution to prevent it
Uh, those are two very similar things
Um, so in 2018 which is a couple years, I guess is the last result that they have um
The the assisted assisted reproductive technology which includes ivf
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Contributed to about two percent of all infants born into the united states. So again, not a big chunk
But two percent is you know, it's not it's not a small amount either as a total
um
as a total
As a total as I mean as a raw number it's quite a bit
And so again, but it's very very expensive because it has to be done in cycles
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Um, and again, it may take more than one. So they again they have a bunch of these embryos essentially frozen and they'll
Try to get the best ones and they'll try to implant one and a lot of times
And I would say most times is that the first one is not always successful
So it may take a couple different tries to get one
One that takes again, probably not the best word, but um, I can't think of a better word to say in that
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um
And one one, uh one argument one one thing that's been debated is whether insurance should cover the procedure
um, so
The problem with that is again the fact that it is so expensive
Um, and again, I I think it's something that's should
If an employer wants to offer it they can absolutely offer it and more large employers are offering the coverage to attract and keep workers
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um
so
But again what democrats want to do is they want to force people to cover it and that to me is kind of a problem
Because the issue with that is that because it's so expensive and so only two percent of actual births use it
that's going to cause
Extreme expenses and the raising of premiums for everybody else to be able to cover it now if they want to
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Again, if a company wants to offer it more power to them, right?
Go ahead, you know thumbs up
But to force a requirement to force it to be covered that would just be unnecessary cost to other people
Um, and it's not always perfect. So there has been some mix-ups in fact just
Uh, just just recently a new story came out that a woman
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Uh got the wrong baby implanted. Uh, this is absolutely crazy
So i'm gonna play this story for you because uh, this is uh, very interesting
To uh, one of the things that can that can happen. This is uh from an abc report
Boy at five months old after learning she was implanted with the wrong embryo. Here's nightline anchor juju chang
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Tonight a georgia woman is suing her fertility clinic after a heartbreaking ivf mix-up
Christina murray was implanted with the wrong embryo only to later give up the five-month-old baby boy
she desperately loved I was his whole world and
Having to hand him to complete strangers
Christina a former nurse says she knew something was off the minute. She saw her newborn
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She and her sperm donor were white but her baby was african-american
That's right. She's a white woman and gave and gave birth to a black baby
It was uh quite obvious when that uh, when that came out. It's like wait a minute. Wait a minute something's not right here
Again, if you're watching live stream, you see the picture they blacked out. They they blocked out the baby's face
But that is a full-on black baby
Um, it is sort of like what was that movie?
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Well with a guy his wife his his him his him and his white wife his white wife just has
Uh a bunch of black a bunch of black babies and he ends up raising him after she leaves him
It was great great movie. I can't remember the name of it. It was a great movie. That's right
But she had a black baby
um, and uh, oh can you just a little bit longer my first thought was he's absolutely beautiful
it's gorgeous and my second thought was
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What happened
You knew I knew immediately I was hoping I would hope she would know immediately
I mean it is like this is a this is like straight up west. I hear an african baby
And she is as pale as I am
It was a mix-up in the sperm donor
um
And that he would be genetically somewhat mine
But my next thought was if he is not mine and he's someone else's embryo. Can he be taken?
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Immediately fear immediately fear and a dna test would confirm those fears probably one of the worst moments of my life
What little bit of hope I had that maybe it was the sperm and that he was mine was gone
Christina says the clinic found the biological parents who were also clients
They sued her for custody and christina gave up the only son she'd ever known
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I can distinctly remember walking out with an empty stroller
Pushing an empty stroller back to my car in a statement coastal fertility specialist says this was an isolated event with no further patients
Affected adding the clinic deeply regrets the distress caused by an unprecedented error that resulted in an embryo transfer mix-up
While christina says the clinic told her her embryos are accounted for she's skeptical and she's speaking out to warn other would-be
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Parents about what she says are the perils of the ivf industry
Okay, so there you have it again. I'm not against ivf
But I I was getting prepared for the story and then I saw that come up
I was like man, what are the craziest things and what uh, you know for her too. I mean
I know, you know, you have a black baby. That's a I mean that's that's that's kind of a it's almost like from a comedy
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But it's it's very sad that she had to
Go through that and actually birth this child that wasn't hers
I mean completely not hers, right?
Wasn't her egg with someone else's egg with someone else's sperm
Obviously wasn't her sperm but it wasn't the sperm that she that she she that she signed up to get
From an anonymous donor which you know, they told her it was a white guy
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um, and then I mean I think it is
Kind of uh, it was kind of big on her to uh, just say you know what? I'm gonna give the child back to its family
Um, even though I birthed it i'm gonna give it to its actual biological parents
um, because I think that it's going to create that that saves a legal issue because um,
I actually don't know how that would look out in courts. Right? I mean it wasn't her fault
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Um, she birthed this child that is not genetically hers
Um now again, that's a that's a very very rare incidence
I just thought I had to play that since i'm covering this ivf story because it's a pretty crazy one
Um, but typically ivf you do get the you do get the right embryos
Um, and like I said, donald trump is saying he's going to protect it
But we're not going to go as far as saying we're going to force
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um, we're going to force
Uh insurance to cover it which would just cost people a lot more money
All right, we're going to take our last break right here. We'll get back
We'll do this day in history, but keep it tuned to the full story on wyab 103.9. All right, ladies
gentlemen, welcome back here to the full story on wyab 103.9 as we get to this day in history
So on this day, february 20th, 1962
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Astronaut john glenn became the first american to orbit the earth rocking into space aboard nasa's friendship 7
As part of the mercury atlas 6 mission glenn circled the planet three times reaching speeds of
17,500 miles per hour and a flight that lasted just under five hours
But the mission wasn't without danger midway through a warning light signaled that friendship 7's heat shield might be loose
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Raising fears that glenn would burn up on reentry
NASA instructed him to keep their retro pack attached as a precaution
And as a spacecraft streaked through the atmosphere flames surrounded the capsule glenn described it as a real fireball outside
But when the parachutes deployed and he splashed down safely in the atlantic ocean
America breathed a sigh of relief his mission was a turning point in the space race proving the u.s
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Could match the soviet space achievements who had sent a man into space just earlier
Glenn became a national hero and his legacy soared even higher when in 1998 at age 77
He returned to space aboard the space shuttle discovery becoming the oldest person to fly in space
All right, that's all I have for you guys today. We'll see you again tomorrow
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But until then my name is Matthew bishop and you've heard the full story
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