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July 18, 2025 29 mins

We’re in the midst of summer and we know that power outages can happen more frequently during this season due to higher temperatures and an increased demand for electricity. A couple years ago we sat down with Ram Rajagopal, an expert in the future of electrical power. He shared a few ways our existing system of massive power plants is slowly but surely giving way to a much leaner, decentralized system of small-scale power generation. Ram refers to this as a move from an “infrastructure-centric” model to a “human-centric” grid — one that will be much smarter, more inclusive and better able to adapt to the needs of individual users. It’s a topic that impacts all of us and we hope you’ll tune in again for a refresher on how the electric grid works and how it’s evolving.

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(00:00:00) Introduction

Russ Altman introduces guest Ram Rajagopal, a professor of engineering at Stanford University.

(00:03:47) What is Powernet?

Outline of Powernet—a decentralized, user-focused power grid vision.

(00:05:34) Behind-the-Meter Intelligence

Aiming to align supply and demand by understanding consumer needs.

(00:07:58) Smart Dimmers & Data Privacy

Balancing energy efficiency with privacy concerns in home automation.

(00:10:05) Aggregators & Local Control

Future energy sharing may rely on local devices and trusted middlemen.

(00:11:50) Human Motivation & Energy Behavior

Why both ethics and cost will drive user participation in energy decisions.

(00:14:02) Teaching Energy Awareness

A program teaching middle-schoolers to analyze home energy use.

(00:16:17) Automating Energy Use

Behavioral and systems changes to help align wellness with grid needs.

(00:18:58) Grid Shift: Renewables & Storage

How evolving the grid demands real-time monitoring and local resilience.

(00:19:57) Sensors & Operational Safety

The sensing technology that ensures transformers and lines stay within limits.

(00:21:27) Smart Dairy: Cooling Cows with AI

How smart fans and storage reduced a dairy farm’s energy output.

(00:23:28) Building Trust with Farmers

The collaborative process behind deploying the grid tech at the farm.

(00:25:01) Smart Ventilation at Scale

Scaling the ventilation tech tested on farms to improve public health spaces.

(00:26:06) Equity in the Human-Centered Grid

How price signals risk overburdening the most vulnerable communities.

(00:28:22) Conclusion

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