September 10, 2024 • 40 mins
What does it take for a podcast to hit the 100-episode milestone? We've got the answer and so much more as we celebrate this exciting chapter of The Fuzzy Mic with the fabulous Brande Roderick. From her Baywatch days to being named Playboy Playmate of the Year in 2001, Brande opens up about the journey that has made her a celebrated figure. She also shares a heartfelt experience of revisiting Baywatch's original filming location in Hawaii.
Brande takes us behind the scenes of Hollywood, from her first movie role in a blockbuster film thru Baywatch and now to her movie "Wineville", sharing what it takes to make it in entertainment. It's a motivating example of perseverence, adaptability and self-belief.
Balancing fame with a quest for normalcy comes with its own set of challenges. Brande reflects on her recent 50th birthday celebrations in Hawaii and Tahiti, sharing personal insights about the impact of public recognition and the importance of pursuing a career that brings true joy. We delve into strategies for overcoming rejection and negativity, emphasizing the power of self-help practices and maintaining a positive social media presence. Whether you’re navigating the tough world of auditions or seeking a fulfilling career path, this episode is packed with valuable advice and heartfelt stories to inspire and uplift.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello and thank you for joining me on this milestone
episode of the Fuzzy Mike.
What's the milestone?
This is the 100th episode ofthe show and, before we get into
today's very special guest, Iwant to quickly share some
numbers with you.
Maybe you're asking yourselfwhy 100 episodes is such a big
deal.
Quickly share some numbers withyou.
Maybe you're asking yourselfwhy 100 episodes is such a big
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deal.
Let me answer that for you.
There are over 4 millionpodcasts worldwide.
According to statistics, 90% ofpodcasts don't get past episode
three three.
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So that's 3.6 million who quit.
Of the 400,000 that are left,90% of those will quit after 20
episodes.
That's another 360,000 gone Tobe in the top 1% of podcasts in
the world.
You only need to publish 21episodes of your podcast.
So you're listening to a top 1%in the world podcast, but
(01:11):
statistically in number ofepisodes, definitely not in
content, but I figured since ourshow, as far as episodes posted
goes, is in the top 1%worldwide and we're airing our
100th episode.
The guest needed to be someonespecial, someone who is
synonymous with worldwidesuccess and who is a member of
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an exclusive club, kind of like.
We are a one percenter.
Try these numbers out.
Her TV show had 1.1 billionworldwide viewers every week,
making it the most watched TVshow in history.
Yeah, and she's one of only 60women to have ever worn the
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crown as Playboy Playmate of theYear, winning the title in 2001
.
Those are exclusive numbers.
Our very special guest forepisode 100 is Brandi Roderick.
And yes, because I'm very weirdaround beautiful women.
I started the conversation onan awkward and some might say,
(02:20):
creepy note.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
There she is, hi.
Hi how are you doing, Brandy?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm doing excellent.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Awesome.
Thanks so much for joining me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And if I sound a little nervous, it's because I
am for two reasons.
Well, for two reasons.
Number one.
I always want conversations togo perfectly Okay and so to that
degree, I probably over prepand know more about you than you
care Anybody to know about you.
But also because I get to nowcheck off a second thing on my
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bucket list, if you will allowme, yes.
Okay, what I like to do is whenI speak with somebody who is has
been in playboy.
Uh, I write poems for you.
And I feel confident in doingthis poem for you because I I
love the video of you and yourboyfriend robert when you were
doing the zip line down thebackyard and you said, oh my god
(03:20):
, my lady parts just hit the,just hit the ground.
Remember that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, no, I had to watch it on video because you
know there was a 40 ounce beerinvolved.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, there was, and copious amounts of wine as well.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But anyway, I figured that you're game, you're fun.
I want to share this poem withyou.
Okay, I'm ready.
Miss Brandy, Miss Brandy, MissBrandy, Miss Brandy, In 2001,.
You had me feeling well, Brandy.
Your pictures, my gosh, theywere so titillating that very
often I found myselfmasquerading in a dream world
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where I was your lover.
And this was all based on thatone Playboy cover.
See, a vivid imagination I suredo possess, because game, well
hell, I couldn't have been bornwith less.
Oh, speaking of games, let meask you about this.
That time you were on CelebrityApprentice with Donald Trump as
the boss.
So I wonder, did he ever try tograb you by the privacy?
(04:23):
All this silliness predicatedon your gorgeous looks, but no
longer superficial.
Since I've read your book Whileresearching you so much for
this chat a conclusion I've cometo, which is that, Miss Brandy,
Miss Brandy, Miss Brandy, MissBrandy, you are way much more
than just eye candy.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yay, oh there you go that was great Thank you, thank
you.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
There you go, there you go, and I'm wearing a Hawaii
shirt because I know thatthat's one of your favorite
places.
You have Baywatch AfterBaywatch.
Now it's out on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I know which is so exciting and I almost put
like a Hawaiian backdrop behindme, but then I didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And I almost put like a Hawaiian backdrop behind me,
but then I didn't and I wasthinking about it, so that would
have been pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, well, it's great.
That's a four-part docuserieson Hulu, correct?
Yeah, and I'm so excited I wantto watch it.
But my oldest son said, waitfor me, mom, he wants to watch
it too.
So I'm kind of waiting for him,but I'm excited to watch it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
True or false, the picture that you have on your
Facebook page is you actuallywearing the bathing suit from
Baywatch that you wore duringthe series?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The one that I just posted yesterday.
Yes, yes, that was my actualbathing suit from the show.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know there are women out there who are cursing
you.
Right now you can still wearthe same stuff you did when you
were 28, 29 years old.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and one of the best things about that was I
went back to the exact sameplace where we shot the show so
that was taken in Hawaii, at theactual lifeguard tower where we
shot the show, and I justhappened to see there, just
happened to be an actuallifeguard there with the red
lifeguard truck and I was like,oh my gosh, can I borrow your
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truck and take a picture infront of it?
Because I'm like I want toreplicate the same picture I
took, you know, 20 plus yearsago and thankfully he was all
happy to oblige.
But that was kind of fun andexciting that I got to take um
the same picks that I took manyyears ago.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
How physical was that show?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Uh well, very physical.
Yeah, we had lots of training,um, you know, and training in
the ocean is, I mean, in myopinion, probably harder than
just training in the pool.
You know we would rock.
You know, walk underneath inthe ocean with big, holding big,
huge boulders at the bottom ofthe ocean and um doing all kinds
of crazy drills.
So they definitely um preparedus and um got us fit and ready
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for all the tasks that we had todo.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
How soon in your life did you realize entertainment
was where you wanted to be?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Um, as far as back as I can remember, I mean when I
was six years old, I was puttingon performances in my living
room and I would set up all thechairs and I would go around the
neighborhood and sell ticketsto my neighbors and invite them
to come to the performances.
So, always wanting to performand be in the entertainment
business.
(07:23):
So with that, you know kind ofhad that, you know which is the
producer in me, right, I wentout and I sold the tickets and
came back and set up theperformance and then also
performed.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We're going to be talking.
We're going to be talking aboutyour role as producer and
actress and director ofWineville, which comes out today
, actually on September the 10th, today, on all of your
streaming platforms.
I want to get into that withyou in just a little while, but
I still want to talk about rolesthat you had and is being an
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extra on the Rock.
Is that really what got youstarted?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That was my first big blockbuster movie, right, and
you know, being a young girlfrom Northern California, you
know I was going into the bigcity which is San Francisco we
just call it the city and Iremember like I'd be there, I
don't know, like four or five inthe morning, you know, and I
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had to drive an hour and a halffrom where I lived and my mom
and I were up all night packingthe biggest, hugest suitcase,
cause they said, oh, bring thisor bring that.
And I had no idea it was myfirst gig, right, I mean I
must've packed my entirewardrobe.
And here I come, rolling allheavy, this big old, huge
suitcase, rolling, you know,into set, all excited, and you
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know, of course, I'm the onlyone that brought this humongous
suitcase.
Um, you know, you only end upwearing one outfit, right, and
then I ended up being like cutfrom the whole thing.
They didn't even show me, likeyou didn't even see me in any.
If you did, it was probably sofast I didn't even notice.
But I remember going to thetheater when it came out, with
my whole family.
We were so excited, you know,to see me in the movie, and then
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we couldn't find me like wait,it's too fast, because I was on
the streets when they werehaving the chase.
But that moment I remember justso clearly because my mom and I
were just so excited that I wasgoing to be on in a movie with
Nicolas Cage you know a Michael.
Bay film.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So how does the excitement from perhaps seeing
yourself on screen for the firsttime, how does that excitement
compare to your firstdirectorial movie that is out
now?
That's got to be hugelyexciting, right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I mean honestly , they're both equally exciting.
I love even when I'm doing amovie for someone else and I get
to, you know, work on it and,like you said, see myself on the
big screen.
It's just as exciting, um, asit is with my own baby, you know
.
I mean my Wineville is my baby,um, and that was very exciting,
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but a little, maybe a littlemore nerve wracking because you
want it to be received well, youknow more than I guess the
other a little bit, but still,you know, just as exciting.
I'm so excited for everybody tosee it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, here's the trailer right now for Wineville,
which is out today on yourstreaming services and a limited
theatrical release.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
A couple of days and we're out of here.
I promise I am yourgrandfather's little sister.
Walter, this is my Aunt.
Margaret Joe is our jack of alltrades.
He was your father's right-handman.
Where'd they find you?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Please just let me go .
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I heard a scream.
We have another missing person.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
This place is my world and it could be yours too.
Do not wait up.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Ow, do not wait out.
Ah, maybe if we show them whatlife is like here, they'll want
to stay.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
What have you done?
Now?
It's me.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Something right out of a fairy tale or the Bible.
No, no, something right out ofa fairy tale or the Bible.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
No, what could happen in a place called Wineville?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
It's a 70s slasher kind of movie, if'm not mistaken
.
I mean, is that an accuratedescription?
Um, yes, it is a 70s thriller,horror, but I don't typically, I
don't really call it a slasher.
I mean, although there areserious, there is a serial
killer, um, but to me slasher islike scream right, like just
someone's, like there's someonejust killing, like killing
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everyone.
It's not like that type ofslasher, you know, where the hot
girl gets killed and slashedand all that.
It's really a psychologicalthriller about a really fuck.
Oh, you're fine, no, you'refine.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's my favorite word Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Okay, I'll just say a really messed up family.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But yeah, they're really Is it based on the
Wineville chicken coop murders.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It is not based on that.
However, we shot at GaleanoWinery, which is on Wineville
Road which happened, which wasright next, not next door, but a
little bit down from where thechicken coop murders happened.
And we named the movieWineville because, if you don't
know the story, that townactually was called Wineville,
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but because the chicken coopmurders were so bad and had such
a bad rap to the town, theychanged the name of the town to
Mira Loma.
So we decided to keep itWineville, because that's where
we shot was really Wineville andwe mentioned it in the movie.
We do talk about the chickencoop murders, but it is not by
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any means the same people,although they could have been.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
The Wineville chicken Coop murders.
It was a dude named GordonNorthcutt Northcutt Northcutt
and it was 1926 to 28.
And he murdered and capturedand murdered three people.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So yeah, well, three people that they found and he
had admitted to, I think, adozen more or something like
that.
So lots of oh wow, but yeah, itthink a dozen more or something
like that.
So oh, wow, but yeah, it'shorrible story, it's very, it's
true story.
So you know, obviously there'ssome.
When you're creating a storyand you have that right next to
you, you know it's in your head,right?
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So when you're creating it, youknow that is in the back of
your head.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So when you're the director and the star of the
film, how does that work?
Do you do the take?
Then you go watch it and sayyou know what?
I can do that better, we can dothat better.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh well, there is a little bit of that, but I was
very lucky because I had mymentor, richard Shankman, who
was also the writer and producerand who is an amazing director,
so he was there every singleday, for every shot.
So, cause you know, I've neverdone this, I've never done this
before, so as far as onsite typeof stuff, he was there through
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through everything, which wasfantastic to have that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Your attitude every single day.
You're so positive.
Where does that come from?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I'm sure it probably comes from my parents to start
right, but ever since because mymom's always the person that
says you know you can doanything as long as you work
hard enough and you know you setyour goals and that's.
I've always been taught that asa child a child.
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But ever since I can remember Ihave been a sponge for
knowledge and for learning andfor self-help.
I read every I've probably readevery freaking self-help book
out there.
There is right, read it all,done it all.
And that's just me.
I just love it, I love it and Idefinitely think by continuously
reading these positive thingsit can only help to make you
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become a positive person.
And for me, I get up everymorning at 530.
And I meditate, I do myaffirmations, I do my
visualization, I do myaffirmations, I do my
visualization, I do my gratitudelist and you know, putting this
whole routine together reallysets the stage to have a really
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happy, productive day.
When I don't get to do that, Ifeel like I'm a little on edge
and not as happy and loving.
So for me, that's really how myday starts with becoming a
positive person.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I think the acronym is SAVERS.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
What does that stand for?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So SAVERS was started by, I think, his name's, ron
Elrod I may be saying it wrong,but Elrod's his last name and he
wrote a book and did adocumentary called the Miracle
Morning and he created what'scalled Savers.
And the S is for silence, whichis meditation and each thing
you do for 10 minutes.
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The A is for the affirmationsyou do affirmations for 10
minutes.
The V is for the visualization,the E is for exercise, R is for
reading and the S is forscribing, which is your
gratitude list.
So that way you know, just sothat you can remember, did I do
my S, my A, my B?
You know?
You kind of go down the list andinstead of the 10 minutes of
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exercise I go on a three-milewalk or run and I do 20 minutes
of Pilates five days a week.
So I add that in there becauseI feel like that's also that
that helps your mind get rightby being physical and active,
and that's really, reallyimportant.
I listen to my books.
I read two books a month and Ilisten to them while I'm on my
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walk or my run, while I'm in thecar, when I'm driving to L, to
LA.
I'm just like a sponge forknowledge.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, as somebody who suffers from depression,
physical activity is thecheapest medicine you'll have.
Yep, yeah.
So I run daily and you knowthat's it's one of the things
that fulfills me is being ableto run long distances.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, for sure Dopamine rush that you need,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, and after and after a while you, your body
just starts craving thatactivity, and if you skip a day
or two, it's like what are wedoing?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Totally 100%.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I feel that about running and walking, but I don't
feel that about my Pilates.
To me it's like, okay, you gotto do my Pilates, I pull out my
mat, but I'm like it's only 20minutes, Just get it over with.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But I love my walking and I love my running Because
with those two activities you'reoutdoors.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yes, yes, and that's what you're right, and that is
one thing that's reallyimportant is getting outdoors.
I am not the type of personthat's going to go to the gym
and just run on a treadmill.
I want to be outside.
I want to see the birds, youknow.
I want to see the bunniesrunning across the street, the
lizards the squirrels, the justeverything like just being out
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in nature.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, I'll take pictures of flowers when I'm
running by, that people won'tsee that when they're driving by
on a car, you know, the onlyway you can see that is if
you're on your feet walking pastit, and I just I have such an
appreciation for nature and forjust being out in those elements
.
That's another form of medicine100% yeah.
So you were talking about books.
I know you're in a book club,but let's talk about your book.
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It is a fascinating read.
Brandi Roderick Bounce, Don'tBreak.
It is life lessons andself-help that you actually
provide.
Because you've experienced thisstuff, I think it should
actually be a must read for anywoman that's graduating college.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Definitely it was createdbecause and me being you know,
when I was a playmate or am aplaymate, but I was an older
playmate and playmate of theyear, so a lot of the playmates
coming in were a lot younger andthey saw my successes and they
would always come to me and askme for advice.
You know, no matter what itmight be, whether it's career or
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relationships or family orwhatever it might be.
And I just started thinking tomyself I'm given all this advice
.
I really I should put it downon paper.
You know all my experiences andwhat I had to go through and
what, um, what worked and whatdidn't.
Um, and, and you know, it waskind of exciting because Hef and
the promotions department atPlayboy called me and said
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Brandy, we love your book andwe're going to give it to every
new playmate that comes in asthe must read for them when they
become a playmate.
We're going to gift this tothem.
So they purchased, you know,hundreds of books too, so they
could do that, and I thoughtthat was really flattering,
because that is really who Iwrote it for is young girls, you
(20:25):
know, hoping to give them someadvice on what they can do to
help fulfill their dreams.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, not only women, but I was also reading it, and
at the end of each chapter, whenyou have those quizzes, I was
testing myself too.
Now I'm probably a little bitmore seasoned than the person
that you were actually writingthe book for, but still you're
talking about finances, you'retalking about not being in debt,
you're talking about beingmotivated and working hard, and
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it's all things that people needto hear.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
How long did it take you to write?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
it.
It took a good full year and Idid it when I was pregnant with
my first son.
So I took that time, you know,cause I couldn't really work um
took that time to to write thebook and then when he was born
at that point, you know, thebook had had just come out and
then I was out touring um forthe book, you know, with baby on
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in tow, you know, out there,you know, wait, hold on, I gotta
go breastfeed.
I'll be right back and do theautograph signing.
But yeah, so it took a year.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
How did you know it was done?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Because writers are notorious for not knowing when
to put the pen down.
Yeah, and that's probably whyit took a little bit longer.
But no, I just feel like if I,it never was going to be perfect
, because every time I would goand read it, there was something
else that I needed to fix oradd or take away, and it was
constant and that kept happeningand finally I was like this
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will be never ending.
I am done because if I keepreading this, I'm going to
always find something.
Not to mention, things arealways changing in your life,
right, so you're always going tokeep finding changes.
So finally I just had to putthe pen down and be like okay,
this is it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Would you consider writing a follow-up to it, as
you with age?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I said no for a very long time.
I was like that was one of thehardest things I'd ever have to
do.
That was one of the hardestthings I'd ever have to do.
But now that I am getting olderthere might be a point where I
would consider doing another one.
But right now no, because I'mjust all about my movies and my
TV shows right now.
But there might be a time whereI do want to do a follow up.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
By the way, you mentioned getting older.
Happy belated birthday, big onefor you this year, how'd you?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
celebrate 5-0?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, How'd you celebrate?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well, I went to Hawaii, which is why I got to
take that picture in theBaywatch bathing suit because I
wanted to go back and reminisceall of the times in my life that
were so special to me, and ofcourse, hawaii is one of them,
because Baywatch was the bestjob I've ever had in my life and
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one of the best experiencesI've ever had with with, with
the people that I met and thecast, and we became this
wonderful family right, and theplace is so spiritual.
It was just such, you know,like almost like a spiritual
awakening for me to live thereand work there.
So I went back and went to allthe old stomping grounds and all
my favorite hotels andrestaurants and where we shot
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the show, and so I did that,which was amazing, and then went
to Tahiti, bora Bora which wason my bucket list, nice, and
really enjoyed that for thesecond half of the trip and that
, you know, got to check thatone off.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
When you're on a television show that has one
billion viewers, are you able togo out in public and enjoy
yourself, or is it just constantfans coming up to you and no,
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I mean there's times when people do say stuff or, you
know, come up and want to takea picture, but for the most part
I mean I'm yeah, it's fine, I'mliving a good, normal life.
I mean sometimes, you know, ifI'm out and my boyfriend gets up
to go to the bathroom, that'swhen the people will come up.
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Friend gets up to go to thebathroom, that's when the people
will come up.
But no, it's totally fine.
I enjoy it when people do wantto talk and share their stories
with me of maybe how Baywatchmight have affected their life
or anything else I've done.
I always love hearing thestories.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So how does reality differ from the dream of a
six-year-old girl?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I feel like I'm living a dream.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And it's good, and I think that it's mainly because
of my children right, that'sreally the dream but also that I
get to do what I love, you know, and I don't think that a lot
of people can say that.
So I feel very blessed that Iam able to do the career I love
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and, you know, be with my family.
I mean, I love being a mom andbeing with my kids and being
able to do what I love.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, well, one of the quotes that I read about you
said I would rather be a soccermom than famous.
Yeah, oh yeah, because it's notabout being famous.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I don't want to be famous.
I like going to places likeyou're saying you know and doing
what, and eating dinner and nothaving people staring at me
when food drops out of my mouth.
You know what I mean.
I don't want that's not what Iwant.
I want to continue to work anddo what I love, which is
producing and acting and andbeing a present mom and giving
my kids um, everything that Idid get as far as knowledge and
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tools, but also all the things Ididn't get.
So, and I couldn't do that if Iwasn't living my dream and
doing what I love.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, if you're not doing what you love, you're
doing yourself a disservice,you're doing yourself a
disjustice, and if you're, youhave to find that.
So if somebody is out therelistening right now and they're
not doing what they love, how doyou, what's your advice to them
, how do you put them in thatright direction?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean I wish I could have gotten them when they're
kids, right?
Yeah, that's what I'm trying.
I instill that in my kids allthe time.
You need to figure out thething that makes you happy.
I just want you to live yourdreams and pick a career that
you love and that you're goingto enjoy doing.
So if someone's not doing whatthey love, sit down and write
(26:59):
down you know what.
What am I really good at?
What do I really enjoy doing?
What makes me smile?
And just see if you can try andfigure out a career that is
maybe wraps around, that youknow, something that you can be
happy at.
And even if it's, you know,it's not something you can just
do right away, but maybe you cando it part time for a while and
(27:24):
still have your other, you knowjob until you can get to the
point where you can quit theother job.
But it's really about figuringout what makes you tick and what
makes you happy, and thatdoesn't mean it's going to be
easy just because you love it.
Like what I keep saying aboutmy career, it's freaking hard
but you love it.
So you find something thatfulfills you.
(27:45):
It's fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's the thing.
If you love it, you'll gothrough the hardship.
You know, I worked my dream jobfor 30 years, you know, and the
first two years I didn't getpaid a penny.
But I knew it's what I wantedto do and so I stuck with it and
I had a couple of people whobelieved in me, made some breaks
for me and then I went with it.
(28:07):
But people are going to besitting there going well, yeah,
Kev, you know you weresuccessful for 30 years in radio
Brandy.
Look at you, You're on thecover of a Playboy magazine,
You're an actress, You're aproducer, You're a writer.
I just, you know, I don't havethat kind of talent.
It's not about the talent youdon't compare to other people,
compared to where you want to beand how you're going to get
(28:28):
there, and you saying writing itdown, that's so important.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So important.
And you know, thinking aboutthat thing, what would you do
for free?
You know, and and I rememberhearing that like what, what
would you do that for free?
And I'm like, well, yeah, I'vedone acting jobs for free all
the time because I love it.
So find that thing in that jobor that career that you love so
(28:53):
would love so much that youwould even do it for free.
You know, like it's, it's fine,just you just got to find it.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That's how you know you found it.
That's how you know you foundit.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
If you'll do it for free just imagine how how
awesome it is if they'll pay youto do it.
But if you do it for free, justimagine how how awesome it is
if they'll pay you to do it.
But if you do it for free, youjust have to get to that point
Right.
Like, um, you know, like, withmy movie, with Wineville, I um,
you know, made the movie, fundedit, did everything you know,
and I still haven't paid, my, Ihaven't gotten paid yet.
(29:24):
You know, I'm waiting, I'mwaiting, I'm hoping it's going
to be a success.
You just never know, but you'redoing.
You just sometimes you have totake risks and if that risk
didn't work, you know what youmaneuver, you pivot and you go
do something else that still isin line with your dream.
But if you figure somethingelse out and you learn from your
(29:46):
mistakes and you bring in thethings that are good and keep
going, Brandi Roddick is talkingabout learning from mistakes.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
When you had $100,000 from your Playboy Playmate of
the Year, you had somebody tellyou invest that, you lost it,
lost it all.
How do you rebound from that?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, you know you have to start from scratch and
you pivot and you learn thatListen, you know what.
I'm going to listen to myinstincts and not listen to
someone who's going to tell mewhat to do.
And next time, you know what,if I had that kind of money, I
might still invest, but you knowwhat?
Maybe I'll only invest 10%, youknow, and I'll put the other
(30:30):
money into other things.
You know, like you.
Just you learn from yourmistakes and you take that in to
life with you and you hope tonot make the same mistakes.
But guess what?
You might make the samemistakes again and you just keep
learning until it's finallylike, okay, I'm not going to
make that mistake again and youjust have to get back on the
(30:50):
horse.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
But how do you not let it psychologically affect
you?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I would say read self-help books.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Listen to subliminals , meditate, do affirmations
every day, look yourself in themirror I am smart, I am strong,
I am wealthy, I am loved.
Whatever it might be for you,you need to do the work.
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You have to turn it around.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I love that advice, you know, because it but it's
hard to do.
It's so easy to give up, butit's hard to it's hard to keep
pressing forward.
It's not easy, but you have todo it's so easy to give up, but
it's hard to keep pressingforward.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
It's not easy, but you have to do it.
But life isn't supposed to beeasy, is it?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah Well, I wish it was supposed to be easy, right,
but it wouldn't be worthwhile Ifeverything just came to you on
a silver platter and you didn'thave to work for it, what
appreciation would you have?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh, I can't imagine any.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So how do you because both the career that you chose,
the career that I chose, itdeals heavily with rejection how
do you not internalize that andtake that personally?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, I mean I think that when you've been doing it
as long as I have, you knowyou've heard no so many times I
think you just have to have somany irons in the fire and do so
many auditions I guess that youdon't even think about it.
You really have to do theaudition and then throw it away.
(32:22):
You cannot think about it andworry about it and wonder it and
worry about it and wonder.
And I know from experience, andjust you know from being on
both sides of the camera, thatrejection is not about your
performance, like because nowthat I've cast, you know so many
(32:44):
different films and you see allthe tape.
They could have all beenfantastic actors, but as a
writer, director, producer, youhave someone very specific in
mind and a vision right For thatrole.
And just because you're notthat vision that person had does
(33:04):
not mean you're a bad actor,you know.
So you can't look at rejectionas if it's a rejection for you,
your abilities, because I willtell you, when I watched all
those acting tapes, I didn't seeany shitty actors.
You know what I mean.
It was just we had somethingvery specific that we wanted and
so it was good to be on thatside to really learn that as
(33:27):
well.
So you can never take itpersonally and you could also be
auditioning and the producersalready had someone in mind that
they're waiting on a contractand waiting for that agent.
You know that actor to say yes,but they still had to read all
these other actors just in casethat one actor said no.
So again, it's not because ofyou and your job.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
So, but in that review that we read earlier, it
says that you coaxed solidperformances from your actors
and actresses.
So, as a director, what is yourjob?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Let them be themselves, let them portray the
character that they alreadyportrayed to me.
Let them, you know, be thecharacter and let them do it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I just think you have to have an immense amount of
confidence, self-confidence, tobe behind the camera and to be
in front of the camera.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, or a lot of years of experience.
We won't say how many, but yes.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Do you read negative comments on social media?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, no, but you're very active on social media, so
how do you stay away from that?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I, yeah, I well, I'm really lucky because on my I
don't I can't even remember thelast time there was a negative
comment.
I mean, I knock on wood, my fanbase are so loving and so
supportive and so wonderful.
(35:01):
I am just really really blessed.
And I hear horror stories fromwomen, um, where people are just
awful and mean and I am just soblessed again that I don't have
to deal with that.
And if there was I, I ifsomebody ever left a negative
(35:22):
anything, I I block them anddelete them right away, cause I
am in this space in my lifewhere I want to be happy and
positive and loving.
I don't want any negativity inmy life.
So I and I'm I feel like I'mreally lucky that my again, my
fans are just awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Wineville comes out today on all of your streaming
services.
You can get it on Amazon, youcan get it on Hulu, you can get
it on Apple TV.
Very, very much looking forwardto being able to finally watch
it, more than just seeing thetrailer.
It looks like it's a fantasticmovie and I can't wait for it to
do really well for you.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm really excited aboutit, and one thing I just decided
to do is, on theWinevilleMoviecom website, I'm
going to be selling autographedDVDs.
So we decided to do a DVD andyou'll be able to go on there
and I can personalize it to youand you know, and send off a
(36:19):
really fun autographed DVD.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Very cool.
So if you're watching this onYouTube right now, that web
address is right down to thebottom of the screen and I
promise that I will move it aslow as possible so that it
doesn't cover any of Brandy.
Are there jump scares in it oris it more psychological?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's more psychological.
So there's really it's not ajump scare kind of movie, so
it's more like holy shit, Iwasn't expecting that.
What that's?
Who did that?
You know, like there's justthat really happened to her.
Like there's just a lot of plottwists in terms that unexpected
things that are kind of funBecause I don't know about you,
but when I'm watching a movie Ilove trying to figure out what's
(37:02):
going to happen.
Who did it?
And you're going through andthen when they throw you for a
loop, you're like what the heck?
I wasn't expecting that andthat's what our, that's what my
movie does.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Awesome.
Well, now I really really can'twait to see it, because that's
right up my alley.
Yeah Well, continued success toyou.
Thank you so much for joiningme.
I apologize if the poem was outof line, but I really okay,
okay cool.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
It was great, kevin, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Thank you, Brandy.
Tell all of your family and allof your friends that we said
hello and thank you again forjoining me.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
So there you go, episode 100 in the books.
Confession.
I record these conversationssometimes weeks in advance, and
then I go back and I edit them,and after I recorded this
conversation with Brandy, I letit sit for a few days because I
really didn't have a goodfeeling about it.
I thought that my anxiousnessand enthusiasm had gotten the
(37:59):
better of me and that the poemthat we started the episode with
may have been so over the topcreepy that it bred some
discomfort.
I thought about not includingthe poem in the episode.
Boy, wouldn't you have feltcheated?
But when I watched theconversation during editing, it
didn't come off as badly as Ithought it did, so I kept it in
(38:22):
See, that's the kind of stuffthat goes on in my head.
In See, that's the kind ofstuff that goes on in my head.
I have such a deep desire to beliked, but I lack the
confidence to believe that I'mlikable, so I let my mind run
with the perception that ifsomeone isn't jumping up and
down or laughing hysterically atmy creativity, they just don't
like me.
(38:43):
If you have similar thoughtsand feelings to that, then you
definitely want to listen tonext week's episode, because my
guest and I tackled this exactidea, using me as the case study
.
My thanks to Brandi Roderickfor joining me and, yes, for
playing along with my idiocy.
Her movie Wineville is out now.
(39:04):
And my thanks to you fordownloading the episode and
listening.
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I mean, yeah, we're in the top1% of worldwide podcasts as far
as episodes posted, but in allhonesty, we're probably in the
lower 1% of audience size.
So if you'd be kind enough totell your friends about the
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Hello and thank you for joining me on this milestone
episode of the Fuzzy Mike.
What's the milestone?
This is the 100th episode ofthe show and, before we get into
today's very special guest, Iwant to quickly share some
numbers with you.
Maybe you're asking yourselfwhy 100 episodes is such a big
deal.
Quickly share some numbers withyou.
Maybe you're asking yourselfwhy 100 episodes is such a big
(00:27):
deal.
Let me answer that for you.
There are over 4 millionpodcasts worldwide.
According to statistics, 90% ofpodcasts don't get past episode
three three.
(00:51):
So that's 3.6 million who quit.
Of the 400,000 that are left,90% of those will quit after 20
episodes.
That's another 360,000 gone Tobe in the top 1% of podcasts in
the world.
You only need to publish 21episodes of your podcast.
So you're listening to a top 1%in the world podcast, but
(01:11):
statistically in number ofepisodes, definitely not in
content, but I figured since ourshow, as far as episodes posted
goes, is in the top 1%worldwide and we're airing our
100th episode.
The guest needed to be someonespecial, someone who is
synonymous with worldwidesuccess and who is a member of
(01:35):
an exclusive club, kind of like.
We are a one percenter.
Try these numbers out.
Her TV show had 1.1 billionworldwide viewers every week,
making it the most watched TVshow in history.
Yeah, and she's one of only 60women to have ever worn the
(01:57):
crown as Playboy Playmate of theYear, winning the title in 2001
.
Those are exclusive numbers.
Our very special guest forepisode 100 is Brandi Roderick.
And yes, because I'm very weirdaround beautiful women.
I started the conversation onan awkward and some might say,
(02:20):
creepy note.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
There she is, hi.
Hi how are you doing, Brandy?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm doing excellent.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Awesome.
Thanks so much for joining me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And if I sound a little nervous, it's because I
am for two reasons.
Well, for two reasons.
Number one.
I always want conversations togo perfectly Okay and so to that
degree, I probably over prepand know more about you than you
care Anybody to know about you.
But also because I get to nowcheck off a second thing on my
(02:57):
bucket list, if you will allowme, yes.
Okay, what I like to do is whenI speak with somebody who is has
been in playboy.
Uh, I write poems for you.
And I feel confident in doingthis poem for you because I I
love the video of you and yourboyfriend robert when you were
doing the zip line down thebackyard and you said, oh my god
(03:20):
, my lady parts just hit the,just hit the ground.
Remember that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, no, I had to watch it on video because you
know there was a 40 ounce beerinvolved.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, there was, and copious amounts of wine as well.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But anyway, I figured that you're game, you're fun.
I want to share this poem withyou.
Okay, I'm ready.
Miss Brandy, Miss Brandy, MissBrandy, Miss Brandy, In 2001,.
You had me feeling well, Brandy.
Your pictures, my gosh, theywere so titillating that very
often I found myselfmasquerading in a dream world
(04:01):
where I was your lover.
And this was all based on thatone Playboy cover.
See, a vivid imagination I suredo possess, because game, well
hell, I couldn't have been bornwith less.
Oh, speaking of games, let meask you about this.
That time you were on CelebrityApprentice with Donald Trump as
the boss.
So I wonder, did he ever try tograb you by the privacy?
(04:23):
All this silliness predicatedon your gorgeous looks, but no
longer superficial.
Since I've read your book Whileresearching you so much for
this chat a conclusion I've cometo, which is that, Miss Brandy,
Miss Brandy, Miss Brandy, MissBrandy, you are way much more
than just eye candy.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yay, oh there you go that was great Thank you, thank
you.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
There you go, there you go, and I'm wearing a Hawaii
shirt because I know thatthat's one of your favorite
places.
You have Baywatch AfterBaywatch.
Now it's out on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I know which is so exciting and I almost put
like a Hawaiian backdrop behindme, but then I didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And I almost put like a Hawaiian backdrop behind me,
but then I didn't and I wasthinking about it, so that would
have been pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, well, it's great.
That's a four-part docuserieson Hulu, correct?
Yeah, and I'm so excited I wantto watch it.
But my oldest son said, waitfor me, mom, he wants to watch
it too.
So I'm kind of waiting for him,but I'm excited to watch it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
True or false, the picture that you have on your
Facebook page is you actuallywearing the bathing suit from
Baywatch that you wore duringthe series?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The one that I just posted yesterday.
Yes, yes, that was my actualbathing suit from the show.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know there are women out there who are cursing
you.
Right now you can still wearthe same stuff you did when you
were 28, 29 years old.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and one of the best things about that was I
went back to the exact sameplace where we shot the show so
that was taken in Hawaii, at theactual lifeguard tower where we
shot the show, and I justhappened to see there, just
happened to be an actuallifeguard there with the red
lifeguard truck and I was like,oh my gosh, can I borrow your
(06:10):
truck and take a picture infront of it?
Because I'm like I want toreplicate the same picture I
took, you know, 20 plus yearsago and thankfully he was all
happy to oblige.
But that was kind of fun andexciting that I got to take um
the same picks that I took manyyears ago.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
How physical was that show?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Uh well, very physical.
Yeah, we had lots of training,um, you know, and training in
the ocean is, I mean, in myopinion, probably harder than
just training in the pool.
You know we would rock.
You know, walk underneath inthe ocean with big, holding big,
huge boulders at the bottom ofthe ocean and um doing all kinds
of crazy drills.
So they definitely um preparedus and um got us fit and ready
(06:55):
for all the tasks that we had todo.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
How soon in your life did you realize entertainment
was where you wanted to be?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Um, as far as back as I can remember, I mean when I
was six years old, I was puttingon performances in my living
room and I would set up all thechairs and I would go around the
neighborhood and sell ticketsto my neighbors and invite them
to come to the performances.
So, always wanting to performand be in the entertainment
business.
(07:23):
So with that, you know kind ofhad that, you know which is the
producer in me, right, I wentout and I sold the tickets and
came back and set up theperformance and then also
performed.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We're going to be talking.
We're going to be talking aboutyour role as producer and
actress and director ofWineville, which comes out today
, actually on September the 10th, today, on all of your
streaming platforms.
I want to get into that withyou in just a little while, but
I still want to talk about rolesthat you had and is being an
(07:55):
extra on the Rock.
Is that really what got youstarted?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That was my first big blockbuster movie, right, and
you know, being a young girlfrom Northern California, you
know I was going into the bigcity which is San Francisco we
just call it the city and Iremember like I'd be there, I
don't know, like four or five inthe morning, you know, and I
(08:21):
had to drive an hour and a halffrom where I lived and my mom
and I were up all night packingthe biggest, hugest suitcase,
cause they said, oh, bring thisor bring that.
And I had no idea it was myfirst gig, right, I mean I
must've packed my entirewardrobe.
And here I come, rolling allheavy, this big old, huge
suitcase, rolling, you know,into set, all excited, and you
(08:42):
know, of course, I'm the onlyone that brought this humongous
suitcase.
Um, you know, you only end upwearing one outfit, right, and
then I ended up being like cutfrom the whole thing.
They didn't even show me, likeyou didn't even see me in any.
If you did, it was probably sofast I didn't even notice.
But I remember going to thetheater when it came out, with
my whole family.
We were so excited, you know,to see me in the movie, and then
(09:07):
we couldn't find me like wait,it's too fast, because I was on
the streets when they werehaving the chase.
But that moment I remember justso clearly because my mom and I
were just so excited that I wasgoing to be on in a movie with
Nicolas Cage you know a Michael.
Bay film.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So how does the excitement from perhaps seeing
yourself on screen for the firsttime, how does that excitement
compare to your firstdirectorial movie that is out
now?
That's got to be hugelyexciting, right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I mean honestly , they're both equally exciting.
I love even when I'm doing amovie for someone else and I get
to, you know, work on it and,like you said, see myself on the
big screen.
It's just as exciting, um, asit is with my own baby, you know
.
I mean my Wineville is my baby,um, and that was very exciting,
(09:59):
but a little, maybe a littlemore nerve wracking because you
want it to be received well, youknow more than I guess the
other a little bit, but still,you know, just as exciting.
I'm so excited for everybody tosee it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, here's the trailer right now for Wineville,
which is out today on yourstreaming services and a limited
theatrical release.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
A couple of days and we're out of here.
I promise I am yourgrandfather's little sister.
Walter, this is my Aunt.
Margaret Joe is our jack of alltrades.
He was your father's right-handman.
Where'd they find you?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Please just let me go .
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I heard a scream.
We have another missing person.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
This place is my world and it could be yours too.
Do not wait up.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Ow, do not wait out.
Ah, maybe if we show them whatlife is like here, they'll want
to stay.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
What have you done?
Now?
It's me.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Something right out of a fairy tale or the Bible.
No, no, something right out ofa fairy tale or the Bible.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
No, what could happen in a place called Wineville?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
It's a 70s slasher kind of movie, if'm not mistaken
.
I mean, is that an accuratedescription?
Um, yes, it is a 70s thriller,horror, but I don't typically, I
don't really call it a slasher.
I mean, although there areserious, there is a serial
killer, um, but to me slasher islike scream right, like just
someone's, like there's someonejust killing, like killing
(12:10):
everyone.
It's not like that type ofslasher, you know, where the hot
girl gets killed and slashedand all that.
It's really a psychologicalthriller about a really fuck.
Oh, you're fine, no, you'refine.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's my favorite word Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Okay, I'll just say a really messed up family.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But yeah, they're really Is it based on the
Wineville chicken coop murders.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It is not based on that.
However, we shot at GaleanoWinery, which is on Wineville
Road which happened, which wasright next, not next door, but a
little bit down from where thechicken coop murders happened.
And we named the movieWineville because, if you don't
know the story, that townactually was called Wineville,
(12:59):
but because the chicken coopmurders were so bad and had such
a bad rap to the town, theychanged the name of the town to
Mira Loma.
So we decided to keep itWineville, because that's where
we shot was really Wineville andwe mentioned it in the movie.
We do talk about the chickencoop murders, but it is not by
(13:20):
any means the same people,although they could have been.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
The Wineville chicken Coop murders.
It was a dude named GordonNorthcutt Northcutt Northcutt
and it was 1926 to 28.
And he murdered and capturedand murdered three people.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So yeah, well, three people that they found and he
had admitted to, I think, adozen more or something like
that.
So lots of oh wow, but yeah, itthink a dozen more or something
like that.
So oh, wow, but yeah, it'shorrible story, it's very, it's
true story.
So you know, obviously there'ssome.
When you're creating a storyand you have that right next to
you, you know it's in your head,right?
(14:00):
So when you're creating it, youknow that is in the back of
your head.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So when you're the director and the star of the
film, how does that work?
Do you do the take?
Then you go watch it and sayyou know what?
I can do that better, we can dothat better.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh well, there is a little bit of that, but I was
very lucky because I had mymentor, richard Shankman, who
was also the writer and producerand who is an amazing director,
so he was there every singleday, for every shot.
So, cause you know, I've neverdone this, I've never done this
before, so as far as onsite typeof stuff, he was there through
(14:41):
through everything, which wasfantastic to have that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Your attitude every single day.
You're so positive.
Where does that come from?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I'm sure it probably comes from my parents to start
right, but ever since because mymom's always the person that
says you know you can doanything as long as you work
hard enough and you know you setyour goals and that's.
I've always been taught that asa child a child.
(15:12):
But ever since I can remember Ihave been a sponge for
knowledge and for learning andfor self-help.
I read every I've probably readevery freaking self-help book
out there.
There is right, read it all,done it all.
And that's just me.
I just love it, I love it and Idefinitely think by continuously
reading these positive thingsit can only help to make you
(15:34):
become a positive person.
And for me, I get up everymorning at 530.
And I meditate, I do myaffirmations, I do my
visualization, I do myaffirmations, I do my
visualization, I do my gratitudelist and you know, putting this
whole routine together reallysets the stage to have a really
(15:56):
happy, productive day.
When I don't get to do that, Ifeel like I'm a little on edge
and not as happy and loving.
So for me, that's really how myday starts with becoming a
positive person.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I think the acronym is SAVERS.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
What does that stand for?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So SAVERS was started by, I think, his name's, ron
Elrod I may be saying it wrong,but Elrod's his last name and he
wrote a book and did adocumentary called the Miracle
Morning and he created what'scalled Savers.
And the S is for silence, whichis meditation and each thing
you do for 10 minutes.
(16:36):
The A is for the affirmationsyou do affirmations for 10
minutes.
The V is for the visualization,the E is for exercise, R is for
reading and the S is forscribing, which is your
gratitude list.
So that way you know, just sothat you can remember, did I do
my S, my A, my B?
You know?
You kind of go down the list andinstead of the 10 minutes of
(16:58):
exercise I go on a three-milewalk or run and I do 20 minutes
of Pilates five days a week.
So I add that in there becauseI feel like that's also that
that helps your mind get rightby being physical and active,
and that's really, reallyimportant.
I listen to my books.
I read two books a month and Ilisten to them while I'm on my
(17:20):
walk or my run, while I'm in thecar, when I'm driving to L, to
LA.
I'm just like a sponge forknowledge.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, as somebody who suffers from depression,
physical activity is thecheapest medicine you'll have.
Yep, yeah.
So I run daily and you knowthat's it's one of the things
that fulfills me is being ableto run long distances.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, for sure Dopamine rush that you need,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, and after and after a while you, your body
just starts craving thatactivity, and if you skip a day
or two, it's like what are wedoing?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Totally 100%.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I feel that about running and walking, but I don't
feel that about my Pilates.
To me it's like, okay, you gotto do my Pilates, I pull out my
mat, but I'm like it's only 20minutes, Just get it over with.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But I love my walking and I love my running Because
with those two activities you'reoutdoors.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yes, yes, and that's what you're right, and that is
one thing that's reallyimportant is getting outdoors.
I am not the type of personthat's going to go to the gym
and just run on a treadmill.
I want to be outside.
I want to see the birds, youknow.
I want to see the bunniesrunning across the street, the
lizards the squirrels, the justeverything like just being out
(18:39):
in nature.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, I'll take pictures of flowers when I'm
running by, that people won'tsee that when they're driving by
on a car, you know, the onlyway you can see that is if
you're on your feet walking pastit, and I just I have such an
appreciation for nature and forjust being out in those elements
.
That's another form of medicine100% yeah.
So you were talking about books.
I know you're in a book club,but let's talk about your book.
(19:00):
It is a fascinating read.
Brandi Roderick Bounce, Don'tBreak.
It is life lessons andself-help that you actually
provide.
Because you've experienced thisstuff, I think it should
actually be a must read for anywoman that's graduating college.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Definitely it was createdbecause and me being you know,
when I was a playmate or am aplaymate, but I was an older
playmate and playmate of theyear, so a lot of the playmates
coming in were a lot younger andthey saw my successes and they
would always come to me and askme for advice.
You know, no matter what itmight be, whether it's career or
(19:41):
relationships or family orwhatever it might be.
And I just started thinking tomyself I'm given all this advice
.
I really I should put it downon paper.
You know all my experiences andwhat I had to go through and
what, um, what worked and whatdidn't.
Um, and, and you know, it waskind of exciting because Hef and
the promotions department atPlayboy called me and said
(20:03):
Brandy, we love your book andwe're going to give it to every
new playmate that comes in asthe must read for them when they
become a playmate.
We're going to gift this tothem.
So they purchased, you know,hundreds of books too, so they
could do that, and I thoughtthat was really flattering,
because that is really who Iwrote it for is young girls, you
(20:25):
know, hoping to give them someadvice on what they can do to
help fulfill their dreams.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Well, not only women, but I was also reading it, and
at the end of each chapter, whenyou have those quizzes, I was
testing myself too.
Now I'm probably a little bitmore seasoned than the person
that you were actually writingthe book for, but still you're
talking about finances, you'retalking about not being in debt,
you're talking about beingmotivated and working hard, and
(20:51):
it's all things that people needto hear.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
How long did it take you to write?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
it.
It took a good full year and Idid it when I was pregnant with
my first son.
So I took that time, you know,cause I couldn't really work um
took that time to to write thebook and then when he was born
at that point, you know, thebook had had just come out and
then I was out touring um forthe book, you know, with baby on
(21:22):
in tow, you know, out there,you know, wait, hold on, I gotta
go breastfeed.
I'll be right back and do theautograph signing.
But yeah, so it took a year.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
How did you know it was done?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Because writers are notorious for not knowing when
to put the pen down.
Yeah, and that's probably whyit took a little bit longer.
But no, I just feel like if I,it never was going to be perfect
, because every time I would goand read it, there was something
else that I needed to fix oradd or take away, and it was
constant and that kept happeningand finally I was like this
(22:01):
will be never ending.
I am done because if I keepreading this, I'm going to
always find something.
Not to mention, things arealways changing in your life,
right, so you're always going tokeep finding changes.
So finally I just had to putthe pen down and be like okay,
this is it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Would you consider writing a follow-up to it, as
you with age?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I said no for a very long time.
I was like that was one of thehardest things I'd ever have to
do.
That was one of the hardestthings I'd ever have to do.
But now that I am getting olderthere might be a point where I
would consider doing another one.
But right now no, because I'mjust all about my movies and my
TV shows right now.
But there might be a time whereI do want to do a follow up.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
By the way, you mentioned getting older.
Happy belated birthday, big onefor you this year, how'd you?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
celebrate 5-0?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, How'd you celebrate?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well, I went to Hawaii, which is why I got to
take that picture in theBaywatch bathing suit because I
wanted to go back and reminisceall of the times in my life that
were so special to me, and ofcourse, hawaii is one of them,
because Baywatch was the bestjob I've ever had in my life and
(23:12):
one of the best experiencesI've ever had with with, with
the people that I met and thecast, and we became this
wonderful family right, and theplace is so spiritual.
It was just such, you know,like almost like a spiritual
awakening for me to live thereand work there.
So I went back and went to allthe old stomping grounds and all
my favorite hotels andrestaurants and where we shot
(23:34):
the show, and so I did that,which was amazing, and then went
to Tahiti, bora Bora which wason my bucket list, nice, and
really enjoyed that for thesecond half of the trip and that
, you know, got to check thatone off.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
When you're on a television show that has one
billion viewers, are you able togo out in public and enjoy
yourself, or is it just constantfans coming up to you and no,
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I mean there's times when people do say stuff or, you
know, come up and want to takea picture, but for the most part
I mean I'm yeah, it's fine, I'mliving a good, normal life.
I mean sometimes, you know, ifI'm out and my boyfriend gets up
to go to the bathroom, that'swhen the people will come up.
(24:28):
Friend gets up to go to thebathroom, that's when the people
will come up.
But no, it's totally fine.
I enjoy it when people do wantto talk and share their stories
with me of maybe how Baywatchmight have affected their life
or anything else I've done.
I always love hearing thestories.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So how does reality differ from the dream of a
six-year-old girl?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I feel like I'm living a dream.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And it's good, and I think that it's mainly because
of my children right, that'sreally the dream but also that I
get to do what I love, you know, and I don't think that a lot
of people can say that.
So I feel very blessed that Iam able to do the career I love
(25:23):
and, you know, be with my family.
I mean, I love being a mom andbeing with my kids and being
able to do what I love.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, well, one of the quotes that I read about you
said I would rather be a soccermom than famous.
Yeah, oh yeah, because it's notabout being famous.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I don't want to be famous.
I like going to places likeyou're saying you know and doing
what, and eating dinner and nothaving people staring at me
when food drops out of my mouth.
You know what I mean.
I don't want that's not what Iwant.
I want to continue to work anddo what I love, which is
producing and acting and andbeing a present mom and giving
my kids um, everything that Idid get as far as knowledge and
(26:06):
tools, but also all the things Ididn't get.
So, and I couldn't do that if Iwasn't living my dream and
doing what I love.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, if you're not doing what you love, you're
doing yourself a disservice,you're doing yourself a
disjustice, and if you're, youhave to find that.
So if somebody is out therelistening right now and they're
not doing what they love, how doyou, what's your advice to them
, how do you put them in thatright direction?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean I wish I could have gotten them when they're
kids, right?
Yeah, that's what I'm trying.
I instill that in my kids allthe time.
You need to figure out thething that makes you happy.
I just want you to live yourdreams and pick a career that
you love and that you're goingto enjoy doing.
So if someone's not doing whatthey love, sit down and write
(26:59):
down you know what.
What am I really good at?
What do I really enjoy doing?
What makes me smile?
And just see if you can try andfigure out a career that is
maybe wraps around, that youknow, something that you can be
happy at.
And even if it's, you know,it's not something you can just
do right away, but maybe you cando it part time for a while and
(27:24):
still have your other, you knowjob until you can get to the
point where you can quit theother job.
But it's really about figuringout what makes you tick and what
makes you happy, and thatdoesn't mean it's going to be
easy just because you love it.
Like what I keep saying aboutmy career, it's freaking hard
but you love it.
So you find something thatfulfills you.
(27:45):
It's fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's the thing.
If you love it, you'll gothrough the hardship.
You know, I worked my dream jobfor 30 years, you know, and the
first two years I didn't getpaid a penny.
But I knew it's what I wantedto do and so I stuck with it and
I had a couple of people whobelieved in me, made some breaks
for me and then I went with it.
(28:07):
But people are going to besitting there going well, yeah,
Kev, you know you weresuccessful for 30 years in radio
Brandy.
Look at you, You're on thecover of a Playboy magazine,
You're an actress, You're aproducer, You're a writer.
I just, you know, I don't havethat kind of talent.
It's not about the talent youdon't compare to other people,
compared to where you want to beand how you're going to get
(28:28):
there, and you saying writing itdown, that's so important.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So important.
And you know, thinking aboutthat thing, what would you do
for free?
You know, and and I rememberhearing that like what, what
would you do that for free?
And I'm like, well, yeah, I'vedone acting jobs for free all
the time because I love it.
So find that thing in that jobor that career that you love so
(28:53):
would love so much that youwould even do it for free.
You know, like it's, it's fine,just you just got to find it.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
That's how you know you found it.
That's how you know you foundit.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
If you'll do it for free just imagine how how
awesome it is if they'll pay youto do it.
But if you do it for free, justimagine how how awesome it is
if they'll pay you to do it.
But if you do it for free, youjust have to get to that point
Right.
Like, um, you know, like, withmy movie, with Wineville, I um,
you know, made the movie, fundedit, did everything you know,
and I still haven't paid, my, Ihaven't gotten paid yet.
(29:24):
You know, I'm waiting, I'mwaiting, I'm hoping it's going
to be a success.
You just never know, but you'redoing.
You just sometimes you have totake risks and if that risk
didn't work, you know what youmaneuver, you pivot and you go
do something else that still isin line with your dream.
But if you figure somethingelse out and you learn from your
(29:46):
mistakes and you bring in thethings that are good and keep
going, Brandi Roddick is talkingabout learning from mistakes.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
When you had $100,000 from your Playboy Playmate of
the Year, you had somebody tellyou invest that, you lost it,
lost it all.
How do you rebound from that?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, you know you have to start from scratch and
you pivot and you learn thatListen, you know what.
I'm going to listen to myinstincts and not listen to
someone who's going to tell mewhat to do.
And next time, you know what,if I had that kind of money, I
might still invest, but you knowwhat?
Maybe I'll only invest 10%, youknow, and I'll put the other
(30:30):
money into other things.
You know, like you.
Just you learn from yourmistakes and you take that in to
life with you and you hope tonot make the same mistakes.
But guess what?
You might make the samemistakes again and you just keep
learning until it's finallylike, okay, I'm not going to
make that mistake again and youjust have to get back on the
(30:50):
horse.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
But how do you not let it psychologically affect
you?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I would say read self-help books.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Listen to subliminals , meditate, do affirmations
every day, look yourself in themirror I am smart, I am strong,
I am wealthy, I am loved.
Whatever it might be for you,you need to do the work.
(31:20):
You have to turn it around.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I love that advice, you know, because it but it's
hard to do.
It's so easy to give up, butit's hard to it's hard to keep
pressing forward.
It's not easy, but you have todo it's so easy to give up, but
it's hard to keep pressingforward.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
It's not easy, but you have to do it.
But life isn't supposed to beeasy, is it?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah Well, I wish it was supposed to be easy, right,
but it wouldn't be worthwhile Ifeverything just came to you on
a silver platter and you didn'thave to work for it, what
appreciation would you have?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh, I can't imagine any.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So how do you because both the career that you chose,
the career that I chose, itdeals heavily with rejection how
do you not internalize that andtake that personally?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, I mean I think that when you've been doing it
as long as I have, you knowyou've heard no so many times I
think you just have to have somany irons in the fire and do so
many auditions I guess that youdon't even think about it.
You really have to do theaudition and then throw it away.
(32:22):
You cannot think about it andworry about it and wonder it and
worry about it and wonder.
And I know from experience, andjust you know from being on
both sides of the camera, thatrejection is not about your
performance, like because nowthat I've cast, you know so many
(32:44):
different films and you see allthe tape.
They could have all beenfantastic actors, but as a
writer, director, producer, youhave someone very specific in
mind and a vision right For thatrole.
And just because you're notthat vision that person had does
(33:04):
not mean you're a bad actor,you know.
So you can't look at rejectionas if it's a rejection for you,
your abilities, because I willtell you, when I watched all
those acting tapes, I didn't seeany shitty actors.
You know what I mean.
It was just we had somethingvery specific that we wanted and
so it was good to be on thatside to really learn that as
(33:27):
well.
So you can never take itpersonally and you could also be
auditioning and the producersalready had someone in mind that
they're waiting on a contractand waiting for that agent.
You know that actor to say yes,but they still had to read all
these other actors just in casethat one actor said no.
So again, it's not because ofyou and your job.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
So, but in that review that we read earlier, it
says that you coaxed solidperformances from your actors
and actresses.
So, as a director, what is yourjob?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Let them be themselves, let them portray the
character that they alreadyportrayed to me.
Let them, you know, be thecharacter and let them do it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I just think you have to have an immense amount of
confidence, self-confidence, tobe behind the camera and to be
in front of the camera.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, or a lot of years of experience.
We won't say how many, but yes.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Do you read negative comments on social media?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, no, but you're very active on social media, so
how do you stay away from that?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I, yeah, I well, I'm really lucky because on my I
don't I can't even remember thelast time there was a negative
comment.
I mean, I knock on wood, my fanbase are so loving and so
supportive and so wonderful.
(35:01):
I am just really really blessed.
And I hear horror stories fromwomen, um, where people are just
awful and mean and I am just soblessed again that I don't have
to deal with that.
And if there was I, I ifsomebody ever left a negative
(35:22):
anything, I I block them anddelete them right away, cause I
am in this space in my lifewhere I want to be happy and
positive and loving.
I don't want any negativity inmy life.
So I and I'm I feel like I'mreally lucky that my again, my
fans are just awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Wineville comes out today on all of your streaming
services.
You can get it on Amazon, youcan get it on Hulu, you can get
it on Apple TV.
Very, very much looking forwardto being able to finally watch
it, more than just seeing thetrailer.
It looks like it's a fantasticmovie and I can't wait for it to
do really well for you.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm really excited aboutit, and one thing I just decided
to do is, on theWinevilleMoviecom website, I'm
going to be selling autographedDVDs.
So we decided to do a DVD andyou'll be able to go on there
and I can personalize it to youand you know, and send off a
(36:19):
really fun autographed DVD.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Very cool.
So if you're watching this onYouTube right now, that web
address is right down to thebottom of the screen and I
promise that I will move it aslow as possible so that it
doesn't cover any of Brandy.
Are there jump scares in it oris it more psychological?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's more psychological.
So there's really it's not ajump scare kind of movie, so
it's more like holy shit, Iwasn't expecting that.
What that's?
Who did that?
You know, like there's justthat really happened to her.
Like there's just a lot of plottwists in terms that unexpected
things that are kind of funBecause I don't know about you,
but when I'm watching a movie Ilove trying to figure out what's
(37:02):
going to happen.
Who did it?
And you're going through andthen when they throw you for a
loop, you're like what the heck?
I wasn't expecting that andthat's what our, that's what my
movie does.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Awesome.
Well, now I really really can'twait to see it, because that's
right up my alley.
Yeah Well, continued success toyou.
Thank you so much for joiningme.
I apologize if the poem was outof line, but I really okay,
okay cool.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
It was great, kevin, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Thank you, Brandy.
Tell all of your family and allof your friends that we said
hello and thank you again forjoining me.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
So there you go, episode 100 in the books.
Confession.
I record these conversationssometimes weeks in advance, and
then I go back and I edit them,and after I recorded this
conversation with Brandy, I letit sit for a few days because I
really didn't have a goodfeeling about it.
I thought that my anxiousnessand enthusiasm had gotten the
(37:59):
better of me and that the poemthat we started the episode with
may have been so over the topcreepy that it bred some
discomfort.
I thought about not includingthe poem in the episode.
Boy, wouldn't you have feltcheated?
But when I watched theconversation during editing, it
didn't come off as badly as Ithought it did, so I kept it in
(38:22):
See, that's the kind of stuffthat goes on in my head.
In See, that's the kind ofstuff that goes on in my head.
I have such a deep desire to beliked, but I lack the
confidence to believe that I'mlikable, so I let my mind run
with the perception that ifsomeone isn't jumping up and
down or laughing hysterically atmy creativity, they just don't
like me.
(38:43):
If you have similar thoughtsand feelings to that, then you
definitely want to listen tonext week's episode, because my
guest and I tackled this exactidea, using me as the case study
.
My thanks to Brandi Roderickfor joining me and, yes, for
playing along with my idiocy.
Her movie Wineville is out now.
(39:04):
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