You didn’t build a business just to stay stuck in it — so why are you still the one holding it back?
In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill challenge the belief that being essential to your business is a badge of honor. Instead, they reveal why the most effective law firm leaders are the ones who build systems, empower teams, and make themselves operationally unnecessary.
From learning how to keep a pulse without micromanaging to redefining your role as CEO, this episode is a tactical playbook for law firm owners who want to scale without staying stuck in the center of everything.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why stepping back from daily operations doesn’t mean losing control — and how to keep a real-time pulse without micromanaging.
How boredom can signal it’s time to raise your standards, redefine your role, or set a bigger vision for your firm.
What it takes to balance your core business with outside interests, without letting performance slip.
If you want your firm to grow beyond you, you’ve got to be willing to let go.
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Show Notes:
00:00 – Introduction
02:37 – The Robot Dog Experiment: A Lesson in Responsibility
07:02 – Are AI Relationships Really That Far Off?
08:42 – How Involved Should a Law Firm Owner Be?
11:49 – What to Do When You’ve Lost Passion for the Business You Built
17:21 – The Real Cost of Split Focus and Chasing Too Many Interests
21:53 – Final Thoughts: You Can Have It All, But Not All at Once
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Links & Resources:
AIbo robot dog by Sony
Gary Vaynerchuk
Tim Cook
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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