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Brandon Hurles (00:25):
What is up
everybody?
Welcome back to the GameJunction Podcast.
We're here for episode 123 thisweek and we've got over here to
my left we've got Matt Long 6.
How's it going?
MattLong6 Gaming (00:37):
Doing well
With muffins.
Brandon Hurles (00:40):
With muffins,
with that Cutie.
Then we've got Andre from GameExplainers back.
How's it going?
Going it's going good.
Andre GameXplain (00:46):
Hope you're,
hope everyone's doing well as
well yeah, yeah, it's uh,everybody have a good.
Brandon Hurles (00:52):
You guys have a
good day it's been a long day.
Andre GameXplain (00:55):
It's been a
day.
I'll go as far as I'll say yeah, unintentional rhymes
apparently I was.
Brandon Hurles (01:01):
I was telling
matt before I was like he's
gonna love your backgroundbecause he's got it's.
Andre GameXplain (01:06):
It's filled
with uh, nintendo stuff, so he's
yeah, well, I mean, I think, Ithink matt's background can
compete well, so I think so too.
Brandon Hurles (01:14):
He's got a chain
of toads I love it.
Andre GameXplain (01:17):
What kind
kirby is that?
Oh, is that kirby holdingsomething?
A heart, oh, adorable that'scool.
And then you got the kirbyholding a heart.
I can't compete with this.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:26):
I can't
compete either.
Not just a cat, but he's got aYoshi card.
Brandon Hurles (01:30):
Oh my gosh,
that's so cool that is amazing.
Where did you get the Kirby at?
MattLong6 Gaming (01:37):
Best Buy, but
also Target sells them.
Brandon Hurles (01:40):
Oh, that's cool
man, I love that.
Yeah, I would like to make atrip out to super nintendo world
at some point.
Um, yeah, I would really liketo go there which one?
Andre GameXplain (01:51):
hollywood or
the new one coming up at epic
universe?
Brandon Hurles (01:56):
um, I mean I
would like to go to both at some
point.
I mean, it is on the list ofthings to do, like I think I am
going to probably get to go thisyear, I just don't know where,
but I don't know.
Also, you know we're going tobe talking about it, but the new
Nintendo Store, that would becool too, although it is going
to be the further one, just tocheck it out would be pretty
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interesting.
But yeah, so it looks like wegot a bunch of people commenting
in here Just.
But yeah, so it looks like wegot a bunch of people commenting
in here Just.
Shout out real quick.
You got Sonic Joe popped in.
Nintendo Lover Girl Michael.
Andre GameXplain (02:30):
Some idiot
called GameXplain is in the chat
.
Brandon Hurles (02:32):
I don't know
what their deal is.
Who's this guy?
What's going on, mr Coffee?
How's it going, gustin, shoutout a few of you guys.
We got everybody rolling in now.
MattLong6 Gaming (02:43):
Hey.
Brandon Hurles (02:44):
Gustin um, yeah,
so we'll.
We'll go ahead and get startedhere I guess we're going to be
talking about first which cameout today was uh analysts.
Uh, we're talking about theswitch to.
MattLong6 Gaming (02:53):
Oh sorry, go
ahead, man I just said hi to
another of my viewers.
Brandon Hurles (02:57):
We're good oh
okay, um, but yeah, we got
analysts uh talking about theswitch to essentially, um,
obviously they always talk aboutall the video game console
releases and kind of theirthoughts, of everything, and so
we are exactly 20, I think we'reexactly 20 days away right from
the I think that's right.
Andre GameXplain (03:16):
Yeah, that's
crazy.
Just under three weeks now,that's wild yeah, this is why I
knew it would go by quick.
I, you know, once, once they,you know, had the switch to
reveal, like, oh, it's so faraway.
I'm like, are you freaking,kidding me?
It'll be here before you knowit.
And, sure enough, it's almosthere.
Brandon Hurles (03:30):
Yeah, I know
it's crazy.
I thought it was going to takeforever as well, but I mean,
we're so close that it's just.
You know, I'm so excited.
No-transcript, I guess what.
(03:54):
What do you guys feel aboutthat?
Matt, you, we, we talked aboutthe price before me.
And Andre, what, what do youthink about, like, the price
point as far as the switch to?
MattLong6 Gaming (04:05):
as long as the
Switch 2?
As long as they're cheaper thanPlayStation 5, then it's
probably a good idea.
Brandon Hurles (04:16):
Yeah, I mean, I
think it has to be right.
Nintendo One thing aboutNintendo is they don't.
I can't think of a console offthe top of my head that they've
ever sold at a loss.
Do you know, andre, if there'sany that they've sold?
MattLong6 Gaming (04:32):
at a loss.
You didn't do good to those ata loss, though no, I don't think
it's sold in a lot.
Andre GameXplain (04:37):
Yeah, that's
part of the problem.
They weren't willing to take aloss on it.
They probably should have.
Yeah, I, I, you know, I I donknow for sure, but I'm inclined
to think that the only systemthat I can think of that they
may have taken a loss on was theGameCube.
They dropped that down to $99pretty quick, for Nintendo down
from $200, and then I think iteventually dropped to $50.
(04:57):
I'm sure the prices got cheaperfor them manufacturing-wise at
some point, but I think they mayhave eaten it a little bit
there manufacturing wise at somepoint, but I think they may
have taken, they may have eatenit a little bit there.
Brandon Hurles (05:06):
So, yeah, yeah,
that was that was the first one
that popped in my head that Iwas thinking maybe there was a
loss there.
But yes, it's interestingbecause you know the like, the
dlss technology and everythingis going to be packed into this.
Um, it's obviously got to be alittle bit more, and the 400
mark to me sounds more Nintendothan the $500 mark, at least
(05:28):
right now.
I mean, you know, next consolegeneration, we could be talking
about the $500 for Nintendo, butto me I think the $400,
personally.
Andre GameXplain (05:39):
I think that
makes the most sense.
I mean, I've been, you know, asyou mentioned, we've been
talking about this for a whilenow and I've always felt to be
between 400 to 500, to 500 beinga less, a much less likely
option yeah yeah, but I wouldn'trule out entirely, because this
is nintendo.
They have gone cocky before andthey're riding like the highest
high they've had in forever.
Right, so I would.
It's not impossible that theyactually go to 500, because,
(06:02):
especially because they knowalmost no matter what, as even
bloomberg was saying thatthey're going to sell out, you
know the first wave, no problem.
And then, if it, then if theprice then becomes an issue,
they can always, you know, lowerit.
Um.
So, yeah, I hope that's not thecase, but uh, I wouldn't
entirely rule it out.
I am leaning toward 400, forsure.
Yeah, I think.
MattLong6 Gaming (06:22):
I think that
it's going to be about $400.
I remember when I bought myvery first system of PlayStation
3 when I was a kid and I savedup every nickel and dime I had.
Brandon Hurles (06:31):
That was an
expensive one.
MattLong6 Gaming (06:33):
Yeah, gamestop
.
I gave him every single.
I calculated everything.
And then I went there and I'mlike crap, I'm like $8 short.
I was like no, I saved up myquarters too, and I gave up
every single quarter I had,including tax and everything.
Brandon Hurles (06:49):
It was insane
did you get this around launch?
Because it was.
It was a six hundred dollarconsole launch and that wasn't
like what I had to save a longtime yeah that that was a wild
launch that got a lot ofbacklash.
Uh, you, you remember that one,andre right, how much backlash
there was on the ps3 price.
Oh, my gosh, oh yeah, like god.
Andre GameXplain (07:10):
They encourage
people to get a second job, as
I recall, to pay for this thing,that is the height of like
arrogance and I hope, right,nintendo doesn't fall into that
trap.
But it's not impossible, youknow.
Yeah, because again they havesomething, they have a hot
product right now and they knownow's the time.
They could, you know, correct,encourage people to pay more for
it.
But we'll see they have.
I mean, I think they have saidthat they want to keep it
(07:31):
affordable, but you know thatthat's also like empty talk.
You know, like 500 would beaffordable to nintendo, so yeah,
right, right, yeah, definitely,I.
Brandon Hurles (07:39):
I this.
This makes sense.
I mean, this is pretty muchwhat I've kind of heard about.
You know, with the circle allaround me is kind of thought
this $400 to $500 range, withmost thinking like probably the
$400.
But yeah, I guess.
The other thing is we gotHiroshi Yamashita said he sees a
(08:00):
huge launch ahead for Switch 2,with a prediction of 20 million
units sold in its first year onthe markets.
Andre GameXplain (08:07):
Uh, so that's.
That's crazy.
I I don't have the directcomparison for all the year one
figures, but even going off theday, one figure that that
article also mentioned beinglike having six to eight million
consoles ready to go, that'sabsurd, that's like so much more
than any other system.
so I don't know that's 100accurate, but even that so much
more than any other system.
So I don't know if that's 100%accurate, but even that feels
extreme.
But on the other hand, we haveheard reports of Nintendo
(08:29):
already having ship systems to,say, north America for instance,
and a good amount of themapparently, and they're ready to
go, and that was back inJanuary.
So they probably have even moreon the way and it could be.
I mean it could just be anabsurdly huge launch, which
would be nice.
I mean it could just be anabsurdly huge launch, which
would be nice, because how hard,you know, I think we all
remember how hard it's been toget a system of launch in years
(08:49):
past for at least anything thatisn't a.
Brandon Hurles (08:51):
Wii U, right,
yeah, I was just looking here at
like the sale markers, liketotal sale markers for the
consoles and handhelds and it'skind of crazy to see that, you
know, the Wii U in total onlysold 104 million units, which is
absolutely nothing, yeah.
Andre GameXplain (09:11):
Poor Wii U.
Brandon Hurles (09:13):
Yeah, I love the
Wii U man, I was there through
the whole era.
I was writing news about theWii U during that time and
reviewing games and I lookfondly on that era.
But there was, you had the dryspells.
I mean it was there was dryspells and no games.
And that's where, like, theindies came in right, like it's
(09:34):
checking out the indie,different indie games and stuff
in between that.
But yeah, what an interestingtime with Nintendo there.
But yeah, I mean I guess that'spretty much what they're saying
they think that there's astockpile of 6 to 8 million
Switch 2 units ready to goworldwide on day one, which, if
(09:57):
that's the case, this is the waythat everybody should be doing
it, so we don't have the scalperproblem which I think they're
trying to avoid.
Andre GameXplain (10:05):
It's a good
way of looking at it yeah,
yeah's the case.
Brandon Hurles (10:08):
That's kind of
crazy.
You know it's a good thing, um,but kind of kind of crazy.
That's a lot of units to haveready to go, um, I do hope
that's the case personally.
But uh, matt, do you plan onpicking one up at launch?
MattLong6 Gaming (10:23):
yeah, yep.
Um, I think I'm gonna pre-orderit.
Um, I really hope they do sometype of like pre-order bonus,
but they don't seem to do thaton consoles, yeah I just want a
little mario keychain orsomething, I don't know that's
what always incentivizes me topre-order, like donkey kong.
Brandon Hurles (10:45):
I pre-ordered
gamestop to get the barrel and
it just sits there.
It's cool though, you know like.
Oh, it's always like theselittle knickknacks, but uh yeah,
I'm all about the knickknacks,yeah exactly, exactly, to be
fair, how much can a barrelreally do?
Andre GameXplain (10:59):
they really
just sit there by design, right.
So I think you're kind of usingit the best way possible yeah,
I still throw my pens in it.
Brandon Hurles (11:04):
So hey, there
you go.
Yeah, I was like all right areyou part?
Andre GameXplain (11:08):
that's that
actually functions as a dice.
MattLong6 Gaming (11:10):
That's awesome
a keychain though, but yeah,
that's cool.
Brandon Hurles (11:14):
Is that from?
MattLong6 Gaming (11:15):
is that from,
uh, jamboree yes, that's from
jamboree gamestop um the acrylicone is from best buy yeah, best
buy.
Brandon Hurles (11:24):
I remember that.
Andre GameXplain (11:25):
Yeah, I had to
pick which one I wanted for the
the zelda one um yeah, thatmario party dice, I think, shows
the impossibility of the dicebecause in the game it's, you
know, up to 10 10 which.
But that's a six-sided dice,right.
So what did they do there?
Did they just ignore somenumbers, or I guess on that dice
it's one, two, six got it okay,so it can't work as an actual
(11:47):
dice, which I appreciate yes,I'm gonna double check now, I
don't want to ruin it, yeah it'sone, two, six, all right sweet
that's wild, uh, okay.
Brandon Hurles (11:57):
So next we got a
uh pretty interesting one I
just wanted to bring up kind ofquickly because I thought it
sounded pretty cool and kind offit in with the Nintendo theme.
But we have this game calledWild Blue, which is supposed to
be like a spiritual successor toStar Fox.
It says, offering a nostalgicand action-packed experience.
The game captures a classicStar Fox essence, with animal
(12:21):
pilots, x-shaped ships andthrilling aerial dog fights.
Uh, it's being developed by thestudio founded by a programmer
who worked on the original starfox.
So I definitely wanted to bringthis up because, I mean, star
fox isn't getting any love, ofcourse, and uh, at least I love
star fox, you know.
Um, but upcoming steam game,and the developer, chuhai labs,
(12:47):
openly acknowledges the game asa new take on starfox, promising
a nostalgic journey for fansthe classic title.
So have you guys gotten to, uh,check this one out at all?
I have not yeah, I watched.
Andre GameXplain (13:02):
I skipped
through the trailer and I didn't
see any gameplay, and so I'mlooking at the screenshots now
in the article you linked us toand these are the first times
I've seen these, I don't know ifthey were shown in the video, I
just skipped past that part,but anyways, it looks cool from
the screenshots, but also kindof generic at the same time, and
on the one hand, I am excitedbecause, you know, as you
(13:22):
mentioned, star Fox has beenignored for way too long.
I think Star Fox 64 is, if notmost people's favorite, like a
starting point for a lot ofpeople, especially, you know,
older people.
Sadly, but, with that beingsaid, not sadly, it's a good
game, but more the older part.
But the thing is, though, likeI have a media flashback to
Yooka-Laylee right, it's comingfrom the Banjo-Kazooie guys and
(13:43):
it's going to be great.
It's going to be amazing Reliveyour childhood.
And the game sucked.
I'm sorry the game sucked.
They're remaking it to a degreenow.
Maybe that version will be good, but that's.
My concerns here is that maybeit's a product of its time.
Even if not, do is going tohave to be a different set.
(14:06):
Yeah, kirby should be in StarFox, even no no Ice Climber?
MattLong6 Gaming (14:12):
Kirby asked,
so I'm just showing him.
Oh, that's perfect, sorry, keepgoing.
Andre GameXplain (14:16):
Holding a
friend hard and I don't know.
I think there's a lot ofbarriers here.
We've already seen severalother Star Fox clones on the
original Super NES game, so Idon't know.
I hope the best for them.
I will check it out for sure.
It could be amazing, but I amhesitant right now.
So I'm very hesitant andexcited for this, but ultimately
it's more Star Fox-likegameplay and that can't be such
(14:37):
a bad thing.
Brandon Hurles (14:38):
Yeah, my one
concern about this was that not
to say that Humble Bundle is bador anything.
But concern about this was thatnot to say that humble bundle
is bad or anything.
But it was presented from thehumble bundle showcase, I
believe is where at least thetrailer that I pulled up from
two days ago was from.
On all the youtubes they wereall linked to that.
Andre GameXplain (14:58):
So did it have
actual gameplay in the one you
saw or no okay, yeah, I just Ijust remember seeing like a
picture of the sky, basically,yeah yeah, yeah.
Brandon Hurles (15:06):
So I mean to me
it also.
I the screen's kind of genericand we have had a lot of starfox
clones come out.
I mean, shoot, we had the.
Uh, what was the?
The game with the?
Why is it slipping my mind withthe toys?
They had the Star.
MattLong6 Gaming (15:24):
Fox.
Andre GameXplain (15:27):
Nintendo Land.
MattLong6 Gaming (15:28):
No, he's
talking about.
Brandon Hurles (15:32):
I mean, it was
Star Fox themed for.
Nintendo For.
Andre GameXplain (15:37):
Wii U.
No, no, no for Switch oh.
Brandon Hurles (15:43):
The Ubisoft game
.
Andre GameXplain (15:45):
Yeah's
slipping my mind I got star,
star like star like yeah, therewe go, all right.
MattLong6 Gaming (15:51):
I figured it
out and I finally, I finally
found it.
Then you're over there thinkingabout it I'll just try to.
Andre GameXplain (15:58):
You got the.
You got the actual art for it,though, so yeah yeah no no, I
don't even own an xbox one.
It was just on the clearanceaisle, honestly the starbucks
stuff was actually pretty fun inthat game it was I actually
preferred it to the main quest.
Even though it was very short,it was nice hearing the cast
again.
You know the voice actors andthat's why I mean I feel like
(16:19):
maybe that's why I'm a littlebit hesitant on this.
I guess it applies to banjokazooie to an extent too, but
especially Star Fox.
It's so much of the appeal, Ithink at least, is like you know
the characters, you alreadyknow the banter between them and
that's a you know, that's a biglegacy to live up to, because
you can't reuse those characters.
Brandon Hurles (16:33):
I mean, you
could, you know, make similar
characters but is it the same torep, replicate known characters
and that sort of banter thatthey have?
But yeah, I mean I guess we'llsee.
You know, uh, it's interesting,it's there, uh, it's going to
be coming out.
So, for anybody that might beinterested in that, there's that
and then, um, kind of like that.
MattLong6 Gaming (16:55):
Okay you got.
No, this is franny.
You just saw muffins.
He doesn't have a yoshi collar.
Sorry, but we just had to do acat switch out, sorry, cat swap,
that's what they call it.
Brandon Hurles (17:10):
No, we got a new
GBA style game coming out and
it's called I hope I'm sayingthis right Pip Estrello and the
Cursed Yo-Yo, and this one doeshave gameplay out there for it
as well as screenshots and stuff, play out there for it as well
as screenshots and stuff.
But it definitely lives up tothe idea of looking just like a
GBA game, because it definitelydoes.
It's pretty interesting 2Dtop-down adventure game laying
(17:35):
claim to the title of the firstYo-Yo vania game, traversing a
city with four distinctiveneighborhoods and associated
crime lords to take down, theplayer wields a yo-yo, both as a
weapon and useful navigationtool.
So, um, yeah, it looks, uh, itlooks interesting.
You know, we we get a lot ofthese retro style games, not as
(17:57):
many trying to replicatenecessarily the gba.
Yeah, um, so it looks kind ofcool.
I figured I'd at least mentionit.
Andre GameXplain (18:06):
It's getting,
yeah I I actually gotta do a
preview for it.
I played the game for aboutfive hours or so.
The first quarter or so of thegame, yeah, and it's.
It's really neat.
It's doing some reallyinteresting things there.
I think it's, you know, it kindof feels like a bit zelda like
in its overall ethos, but stillvery unique, like having a, you
know, like having the yo-yoitself which is your main weapon
.
But then one thing I reallylike is just how you upgrade
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your abilities.
I mean, it's not entirely new,because you have like a kind of
upgrade like tree thing.
Sure, what's interesting aboutthis is you can you can choose
what power you want immediatelyfor it, without cashing in
anything.
But then you're put undercontract where the only way to
pay it off is to go out andbattle enemies, and it starts
paying it off immediately usingthe coins that you collect.
(18:49):
So if you, if you already havethe coins, you you need to pay
it off.
You can't use those.
You have to go out and activelycollect them and during that
time, though, you get thebenefit of that, of that skill,
tree perk or whatever, but atthe same time you're you're
punished with another penaltyuntil you pay it off.
Like, for instance, you mayhave a part of your heart meter
or something.
Um, in addition, it's got papermario like badges, which I'm
(19:10):
always on board, for.
I love badges.
Give me badges in every gameexcept mario wonder.
That's one game where I don'tlike it, but yeah yeah, yeah,
it's.
Brandon Hurles (19:20):
Uh, it looks, it
looks cool, that's cool.
You got to preview it and stuffDefinitely interesting,
definitely Zelda vibes.
That's the first thing Ithought, and I like to see these
different indie-style games.
That's what I find myselfplaying a lot in between the,
you know, aaa and Nintendoreleases and other stuff that
comes out.
So, yeah, it looks cool.
I think I'll check this one outmyself.
(19:46):
And it looks to be coming out onswitch and ps5, from what I can
see, yeah, in late may, latemay.
Yeah, did I say that?
Right, is it?
Andre GameXplain (19:50):
pip, pip you
said it as right as I did, so
I'm hoping I got it right okay,all right, cool, cool apparently
it's an italian word, so youknow, I guess it can make it
sound more italian like.
But you basically have it okayall right, cool, uh.
Brandon Hurles (20:03):
So next, this
one.
This one's really interestingbecause I got a random pop-up
while I was working through theweek on the computer.
But this is what is uh kind ofscary about digital, uh, digital
games and what I don't like.
But xbox took away a game thatwas free, which was alan wake
remastered and this is mybrother's, one of my his
favorite games really alan wakewell, I got this notification
(20:26):
that popped up on my pc thatxbox took this game away and I'm
like what?
so I had to like look it up ongoogle, like what was going on.
Like you know, anybody elsegets notification, but it was
free in january and I, I guess Ididn't know.
I I just got the tweet, I think, from Warrior64 or something,
(20:46):
that it was free on there butapparently it was set with some
kind of loophole and the userswere able to retain access to it
until now.
But it says Xbox Gamersplatform is revoking access to
the version of Alan WakeRemaster that was accidentally
given away for free.
Every once in a while, xbox andother digital gaming
(21:08):
storefronts accidentally giveaway games free.
This happens very rarely, but itis an issue, has popped up on
more than one, more than oneoccasion.
Uh, typically when this happens, access to the accidental
freebie is revoked prettyquickly, but this wasn't the
case for Alan Wake remastered.
So this, this happened inJanuary and they're just now
taking it away.
I mean, to me it's like that'skind of you know, they can just
(21:34):
take your game away like that.
You know what I mean.
You claim it and put it on yourconsole and it's gone.
Andre GameXplain (21:41):
As you said.
That's why it's kind of scarypart about, you know, digital
ownership and they don't reallyever own it yourself.
Yeah, um, I will say, though,you know, while I'm generally
anti, you know, pulling thingsabout, you know, uh, especially
after it's been purchased, if itwas genuinely a mistake, which
it sounds like, I don't thinkthey advertised it or anything.
Yeah, I didn't read about I itdoesn't bother me that much.
Like everyone got lucky who gotthe game, or, and hopefully
(22:03):
they played it by now um, butespecially because we don't know
what their contract is with,you know, the developer of the
game.
Yeah, microsoft doesn't ownthis game, right, so this could
cost the developer sales and Idon't know they have to pay them
back for it.
I don't know what's going tohappen from that, but this is a
case where it doesn't reallybother me because people were
lucky enough and they were thereearly to get the game and
hopefully play it.
But, you know, revoking accessto it, I think is understandable
(22:25):
in this case yeah, and I meanthat.
Brandon Hurles (22:29):
That is the.
The one thing is that it was itwas an accident.
I've got the actual uh pop-upmessage that came up, but it
says you recently acquired aversion of alan wake remastered
that was not intended to beavailable.
Therefore, we are cancelingyour order, refund, refunding
any payment made and removing itfrom your my Games and apps
list.
We apologize for theinconvenience.
(22:49):
And it says you can visit themto view your billing history.
Andre GameXplain (22:52):
What would be
really cool, I think, is it gave
people a small token ofgratitude for the mishap, even
though they already got thebenefit of playing the game
without paying for it.
But I don't know, throw somelike xbox points wherever the
hell xbox uses, you know, likesomething they can like cash in
for you know some part of a gameor something yeah, I, I even
got the pop-up for when it wassaid to be free on there because
(23:17):
, like, I was not aware of itbeing like a loophole thing.
Brandon Hurles (23:19):
Like I get these
tweets all the time right about
these games that are on sale orthey end up being free, whether
it be like epic game store, youknow, steam or any of these
different platforms, playstation, whatever it is but it just
says you know, alan wakeremaster is free on xbox live.
You also claim free trial ofalan wake 2 and uh, yeah, that's
(23:42):
it.
That's all that the tweet thatwent out said.
So this wasn't like a, you know, like a weird loophole of
people doing something onpurpose type of thing.
The verify make sure that.
You know I wasn't like goingthrough some kind of loophole
because I wasn't aware of doingthat, but yeah, I don't know.
So apparently, if you saw thattweet and you claimed it, then
(24:02):
it's no longer available.
But yeah hopefully you played itby now, if not, I guess by the
game you know.
MattLong6 Gaming (24:08):
Uh, alanway's
pretty cool, so yeah, I never,
never played it, but yeah, mybrother loves it.
I I don't not sure what it isabout, but my brother loves it.
Um, in my community we try touh post all the free games that
we can find.
We try to post that in.
Uh my discord oh yeah, yeah,for everyone else nice.
Brandon Hurles (24:33):
Yeah, I know
amazon does a bunch of free
games every month and I have noteven tried.
MattLong6 Gaming (24:39):
I've
downloaded a few.
I've never tried it.
Never tried amazon games, yet Ihave it, like their thing,
downloaded on my desktop, butI've never played any of them
yeah, it's uh, it's pretty cool.
Brandon Hurles (24:54):
You get games on
some of the other different
platforms and stuff.
Uh, so like gog is a big onefor you know them and and stuff
like that.
So, all right, next one I'mactually going to pull up just
so I can show image here.
So it's from go nintendo and uh, they put out that rumor of an
(25:20):
fcc.
Well, the fcc filing may pointto a GameCube controller for
Switch 2.
That's the rumor Born to playon Switch 2.
MattLong6 Gaming (25:33):
The best
controller.
Brandon Hurles (25:34):
A lot of people
think that, yes, a lot of people
think that I love it so muchthat I got the.
I forget the company, but theymade GameCube Joy-Cons.
I've got those, oh yeah.
Andre GameXplain (25:49):
That's what I
use on my Switch.
My previous roommate had thosetoo, yeah.
Brandon Hurles (25:53):
They're good,
they're really good.
I mean, I love it, but yeah, ohgo ahead.
MattLong6 Gaming (25:58):
Did Alan Awake
1 or 2 get revoked?
It just said remastered rightto get revoked.
Brandon Hurles (26:06):
It just said
remastered right, it's probably
the first one, is the first one.
Okay, yeah, uh, but yeah, no, Imean this is interesting, but
to me I don't know what you guysthink what.
What do you think, andre, onthis?
Andre GameXplain (26:15):
before I talk
on it, as to whether it's like a
real thing that's happening orI, so I didn't look in the story
too much, unfortunately, um,but from what I saw that it you
know it's possible it could beused for reference perhaps.
So I didn't look in the storytoo much, unfortunately, um, but
from what I saw that it youknow it's possible it could be
used for reference perhaps.
So I don't know if it'sactually happening or not.
I hope it does, though, becausefor one, as uh mad was saying,
it's it's an amazing controller.
It's still my favorite wavebird.
(26:36):
Yeah, this one's a wave bird,right?
Exactly, um, I was trying toactually look for my normal one
today.
I was using it for something,but couldn't't find it.
In any case, they're bothamazing controllers, and this
one's about to be wireless too,I think, is what it mentioned,
right?
So even more fitting.
Anyways, I would use a gamingcontroller in any game I can, so
if they support it, I will useit, especially, of course, for
(26:58):
the next Smash Bros game whichthey've been supporting since
the Wii or since the GameCube Imean since the GameCube version
of it so you can't give up now,right.
So this does make sense.
Brandon Hurles (27:10):
My one thought
was Smash Bros Community.
That was my thought because youknow they did it for Wii U and
obviously Switch and stuff.
So I'm like, well, they'reprobably just, you know,
bringing that over.
Hey, we're going to give you awireless version of this, and,
um, yeah, I mean, I think that'sprobably what it would be for I
(27:30):
would imagine, because I thinkthe smash community probably be
a little outraged or something,because they just expect it at
this point.
Right, exactly, there is one.
Andre GameXplain (27:40):
Now, you know
exactly, yeah, there's.
There's one other thing, thoughI think it could be used for uh
, and that would be gamecube nsoif they, have to bring a
virtual console or and slash orremaster more gamecube games.
Yes, it would make a lot ofsense to have a way of using
that controller on the systemreally would.
Brandon Hurles (27:56):
Yeah, people
were really holding out for
gamecube on switch one.
I never thought that.
I actually never thought thatwas going to happen, just
because of the kind of drip ofgames, like there was a slow
drip there for a while of games.
You know what I mean.
It was like very random at somepoints, and you know we just
(28:17):
get the most random games allthe time there's three japanese
games I've never heard of beforeyeah, exactly like.
Yeah, here's this japanesepuzzle game.
It's like, oh cool, like one ofthem was really cool, though
that came out recently.
Don't remember the title, butit was a satel of you game.
That was one thing that peopledidn't really know oh, yeah,
that uh with the witches, oryeah.
Andre GameXplain (28:38):
Yeah, that was
cool actually, yeah I played it
too.
Brandon Hurles (28:41):
It was pretty
neat.
I can't remember the title ofit, but it was cool.
I mean, see a satel of you gameon there was neat.
So but yeah, that's what what Ithink as well, and so, and it's
mash, so Not that they did makeit like the doc could play
discs.
MattLong6 Gaming (28:56):
That would be
awesome.
Andre GameXplain (28:59):
All these
dragons worth the game cube yeah
.
MattLong6 Gaming (29:02):
Yeah or I.
I always wish that thisNintendo always does something,
always wish that the nintendoalways does something different.
Like the, we got motioncontrols.
Will you?
You introduce the game pad 3ds,touch the 3d?
Um, so what's the gimmick forswitch 2?
I wish that they would add theability to backwards compatible
(29:23):
uh, ds and 3ds games on.
It could be so easy in myopinion, but I'm not sure I do.
I don't think they'll do itbecause no money in it for them
except for maybe adding anothernso tier.
Andre GameXplain (29:36):
Right, like
you want a 3ds tier now or ds
tier if you want to get thosegames.
I do think it's possible, thoughonly because the mouse that the
joy-con yeah it does yeah seemslike that could finally make ds
games work on a tv um, whereyou can display both screens at
once and you can just use amouse for the touchscreen, or if
you're playing in handout form.
(29:56):
That would work too, withoutthe mouse, to just use a
touchscreen.
So I hope it happens, becauseit would be nice, because if the
Switch 2 lasts as long as theSwitch 1 has, you're going to
see more than just SNES and64-bit games and NES on there.
Right, they're going to have toadd a few more consoles,
especially because they'vealready burned through a good
chunk of their really goodpopular games in those previous
(30:17):
systems.
Brandon Hurles (30:19):
They have yeah.
They republished Mario 64 andthat trilogy Look here's the
thing about that, right's thething about that right.
That wasn't a real remaster no,no galaxy 2 on that so no
galaxy 2.
MattLong6 Gaming (30:35):
I thought it'd
be a dlc and they never
released it.
Brandon Hurles (30:37):
Yeah, that was
the rumor, like it's gonna be a
free game that they give youdigitally.
You know if you bought this,whatever yeah, that didn't
happen.
Andre GameXplain (30:46):
I guess like
giving three free stuff away no,
they don't, no, they, theydon't.
Brandon Hurles (30:50):
I might be the
one weirdo I don't know if I
actually don't know genuinely ifanybody else feels this way but
I always like galaxy 2 betterthan I did one, actually I agree
with that you know I love both,but I actually love both as
well when I go back to playingthem like I two just sucks me
and I can't stop.
Andre GameXplain (31:06):
Like this game
, that game's, it's just pure
joy.
Brandon Hurles (31:09):
That would have
been great to have on the Switch
to replay again, because it'sso much fun.
I loved it.
Okay, so we also got some moreNintendo news here.
MattLong6 Gaming (31:18):
I have some
Nintendo news whenever, okay.
Andre GameXplain (31:22):
Is it breaking
?
MattLong6 Gaming (31:24):
No, it's not
breaking.
Brandon Hurles (31:27):
We do the
breaking news, so if something
comes up, let me know.
All right, we'll bring that upafter this, because it's just a
quick thing.
Nintendo San Francisco isopening May 15th of this year.
It'll be located at 331 PowellStreet, on the corner of Powell
and Jiri in Union Square.
It'll be the second retaillocation in the US for all
(31:49):
things nintendo opening exactalmost exactly 20 years after
nintendo new york.
So that's crazy interesting, umcool story on this.
I always wanted to go to newyork as a kid because I wanted
to go to the pokemon center thatthey had.
Do you remember that when theyhad the Pokemon Center, I wanted
to go to that?
(32:10):
So bad as a kid.
Andre GameXplain (32:14):
I'm sorry,
because you never made it.
Brandon Hurles (32:18):
I never made it.
No, it was something.
They always had exclusive stuffthey do at their store.
They always have exclusivestuff.
But as a kid there's alwaysthings I couldn't get these
different Pokemon cards Icouldn't get, you know, these
giveaway events for the gamesthat I couldn't get and I just
always wanted to visit.
But no, I mean, I, this ispretty cool, it is.
(32:41):
I think it is a little strange,man, that they've only got like
, you know, there's somethinggonna be the second one, um,
it's interesting.
But then, but new york and anduh, california make makes sense
the most sense to put right,like it makes to me, makes the
most.
Andre GameXplain (32:59):
It's not in
ohio, you know it would have
made sense, yeah, 15 years ago,like what took so long yeah
second store.
The switch has been the numberone platform for eight years.
How did it take this right forthem to actually make a
successor?
It's I mean, I think theyshould do this a lot sooner,
plus, you know a few otherstories at least.
Yeah, um, but I think it's good.
I mean, this is fun.
I actually used to live not toofar from the store or where
(33:22):
it's going to be, but I live insan francisco, or the area at
least, for 15 years and in sanfrancisco proper like five years
, I think, or a couple years atleast and uh, it's a, it's a
neat area that's going in.
Um, it's like right below orright around, like a cheesecake
factory, so it's already got itnear an apple store too.
There's a lot going on aroundthere.
Um, it's probably the bestplace for them for them to be in
(33:43):
in san francisco.
So, um, yeah, I mean, if I everreturn to that city, I'll
definitely drop by by.
Brandon Hurles (33:49):
So yeah, for
sure.
Yeah, I would love to visit atsome point.
That'd be cool.
So, yeah, I'll never know,maybe if I'm out at the
convention that way or somethinglike that, it'd be a cool place
to drop by.
Yeah, that'd be awesome.
So that's a small one there.
Do you want to bring up whatyou had?
MattLong6 Gaming (34:10):
Yeah, I sent
you the link if you want to put
on screen, but it's nothinggreat, just uh, the club
nintendo program isdiscontinuing, so, if you
remember, they would give you,like gold coins when you buy
something on switch and then youcould redeem it.
Um, that's going to go away.
Uh, it looks like in april isthe last day to select a 2015
(34:34):
elite status gift, whatever thatis, and the last day to redeem
coins for rewards or downloadgames is june 30th and then july
31st the last day to redeemclub nintendo download codes
from the nintendoShop.
Just wanted to let people knowin case anyone cared.
Brandon Hurles (34:52):
Yeah, no worries
, we didn't have the podcast
last week, so I think this cameout last week, right, andre?
Yeah?
Andre GameXplain (35:00):
I don't
remember.
I remember them talking aboutgetting rid of the coins.
It came out.
MattLong6 Gaming (35:06):
February 22nd,
so I'm a little behind.
Brandon Hurles (35:09):
More than a week
.
Okay, alright, february 22nd,so'm a little behind.
More than a week, february 22nd, so that was a couple weeks ago
raise awareness though yeah,raise awareness.
Let you know, because it's aboutto end.
I'm not really surprised bythis.
Honestly.
I was like it's kind of abummer because I like collecting
the coins to get the physicalgoodies, even though you gotta
pay shipping on them still, ofcourse.
You still gotta pay shipping onthem still, of course.
(35:30):
You still got to pay theshipping, so you're paying
whatever that product isactually worth.
So it's, you know, they knowwhat they're doing there.
But, yeah, not super surprisedbut a little unfortunate about
that because it was kind of acool program.
I miss the old school ClubNintendo, though that was where
it was kind of a cool program.
I miss the old school fromNintendo, though that was where
(35:53):
it was at.
Andre GameXplain (35:54):
I miss the
good old days of the Nintendo
Power catalog, where every issue, like every Nintendo Power
issue, would come with asecondary catalog and inside
each of those was like two powerstamps that gave you a dollar
off for each one, and so I wouldjust save those up and you
could cash it in for whateveryou wanted.
I would just get CD holders orstatues.
Some of the things in the backthere are from Nintendo Power.
(36:15):
It's just really cool.
I miss those days.
Brandon Hurles (36:21):
I've got a bunch
of older issues that have some
of those and stuff.
I've seen that it's really coolto see what they offered.
Then it was pretty neat.
Yeah, definitely, definitelymissed, because you know there
were other, like I, thinkingabout the magazines.
Like I miss, like you know, thedemo discs and and all the
(36:42):
different things you could getwith, like those different
magazines.
Of course, nintendo didn't dothat, but the Dreamcast magazine
and the xbox magazine,playstation they all gave out
demo discs with the differentmagazines.
Andre GameXplain (36:54):
So it was
super exciting back then.
I swear to god like yeah I was.
Brandon Hurles (36:59):
I was subscribed
to nintendo power.
Uh, from the year I'm I'm alittle younger, but from the
year 2000, all the way until thelast issue, I never missed an
issue, which I believe it endedin 2012.
Was the last issue?
Andre GameXplain (37:17):
Yeah, I think
that sounds right, yeah, I think
it was 2012 was the last issue.
Well, that sadly means youmissed seeing my amazing
Banjo-Kazooie time in uh powerboard thing they had the
competitions for oh well, no,I've got a bunch of, a whole
bunch of.
Brandon Hurles (37:33):
I got the first
issue right yeah, I got the
first issue.
Um, I've got like the thirdissue, fourth issue.
I know I don't have issue two,but there's a bunch of other
random ones I have too as well.
Andre GameXplain (37:44):
I've got a
whole collection of them.
MattLong6 Gaming (37:45):
So
unfortunately my time is in the
one with tonic trouble on thecover, which I don't think
anyone cares about so that'sfunny, I don't know why, because
demo disc it would be real fun,because every once in a while
they make a mistake and actuallyput the full game on the oh,
wow, yeah I was watching a videoby larry bundy jr, who was was
(38:06):
talking about that.
Brandon Hurles (38:08):
Oh, yeah, he
makes good content.
I didn't know that Interesting.
Well, we got some dang excitingnews, Just kidding.
So, Star Wars Hunters I make ajoke because I kind of thought
this game I was like we don'treally need this.
(38:28):
That's how I felt when theyannounced this game to begin
with.
But Star Wars Hunters isshutting down on October 1st,
Final content update comingApril 15th.
I personally don't know asingle person that's even played
this game.
Andre GameXplain (38:45):
I didn't know
this was a game.
MattLong6 Gaming (38:47):
So that's why
it's closing down.
Brandon Hurles (38:50):
Well, it's a
free-to-play game.
So think in the aspect ofMarvel Rivals, which did very
well and we talked about itopenly on here multiple times
that we crapped on that game sohard, we thought Marvel Rivals
for sure was going to fail aswell.
Same with this game, because itwas like why we need an
(39:11):
overwatch clone when you gotoverwatch and nobody's playing
overwatch 2 anymore?
So what do we need this for?
Uh, and then you know, lo andbehold, I play marvel rivals and
I like it, you know, but I canput a lot of hours into it
actually.
Um, I think it's very fun, butthis one I haven't played.
I don't know anybody that'splayed it.
I asked around a little bit agoto check to see if I did know
(39:33):
anybody that played it and theirthoughts, because I don't
really care to check it out.
Yeah, I guess the user basejust wasn't there for it and
they really didn't do heavypromotion, if you didn't even
know about it, andre.
Yeah, I mean, they obviouslyjust didn't do a good job with
it.
So a little interesting.
(39:56):
I'm taking it, matt, that youhaven't played it either.
MattLong6 Gaming (40:00):
No, I'd never
heard of it.
Brandon Hurles (40:02):
Okay, yes.
Andre GameXplain (40:04):
I'm assuming
it was an online multiplayer
game, right yeah online only.
I feel like it's such a hardspace to get into.
You would think being freewould appeal itself to a lot of
people, but it's just like it'sjust more noise.
Brandon Hurles (40:15):
It's so much
free, yeah, exactly.
Andre GameXplain (40:19):
I only pay
attention to that stuff.
If anything, it's a warningsign.
It's like stay away, I don'twant to play a free game.
They're usually not great,you're just like me yeah, yeah,
we checked out.
Brandon Hurles (40:28):
The only reason
we checked out marvel rivals
because we do our weekly uh,saturday streams, so we needed a
multiplayer game to playcommunity is like, hey, check
out marvel rivals, that isactually good.
Like normally, a game like thatI wouldn't touch.
I've never played overwatch 2.
I played overwatch, like Ithink, one time.
You know I just like I don't bynature I don't care about this
(40:55):
type of games usually.
You know like there'sexceptions like F-099.
Like I love that.
It's really good.
Yeah, that's great.
Andre GameXplain (41:04):
Fortnite's fun
, of course, but I feel like
it's hard to get into that space, especially if you need, like,
a lot of players because youneed to reach, like a critical
max and uh, that's justdifficult to do right, there's
competition out there yeah,there's, there's a lot out there
, but uh, I mean, it'sdefinitely.
Brandon Hurles (41:21):
Um, I mean it's
always a bummer when games get
shut down so quickly becausethis is, this is a this year
game.
Oh, this, oh oh sorry, sorrylate last year, so within the
year, within the year of itcoming out, um, so it didn't
last long whatsoever, which youknow it's happened.
(41:42):
We've seen it happen before.
The few other things, obviously, concord, being like the big
one I got, got shut down prettymuch right away.
This space, like you said,andre, too much noise, there's
too much going on with it.
I hope this is a warning signto these companies that it's not
(42:04):
good to invest in just thisonline-only concept or this
free-to-play, because it was,it's become a trend, you know?
Um, so it was.
It was worrying me there for abit, but you know, I don't know
were you there for payday 3?
MattLong6 Gaming (42:21):
launch it yeah
it was terrible, absolutely
terrible, and I I played it theday before on like a beta thing
or whatever it was, orpre-ordered it no content and it
.
It worked just fine.
It was a good game.
But then, um, launch day and itsucked.
You couldn't even load a gamein half the time because it was
even if you had a disc, youstill had to be connected to the
(42:42):
internet I swear, I just hearda mario coin.
Brandon Hurles (42:46):
Yeah, my.
MattLong6 Gaming (42:47):
My text
message is mario I'll put it on.
Uh, do not oh goodness graciousat least there's an appropriate
sound.
Yeah, yeah, seriously, that'swhen um someone calls me is the
ringtone of del uh island delfino, from uh mario sunshine
(43:08):
nice I love
Andre GameXplain (43:08):
it that's a
good one that's a good one.
Brandon Hurles (43:11):
Uh, in more not
shocking news, I guess you know,
based on some track recordsrecently, especially the
nintendo games, uh, xenobladechronicles x definitive edition
has leaked online already, um,which I don't like, you know I
I'm fully against this withbrand new games, current
(43:35):
generation games, um, but I meanit's happened with a bunch.
I think donkey kong countryreturns hd leaked, I think.
Well, didn't um tears of of theKingdom Zelda yeah both Tears of
the Kingdom and Echoes Echoesleaked as well.
Yeah, it sucks, but I mean, howdo you, do you guys know of a
(44:03):
way to prevent this fromhappening?
Like, how do you think this iseven happening?
MattLong6 Gaming (44:09):
Do whateverney
does and keep it under lock and
key yeah, bring back the disneyvault right.
Brandon Hurles (44:14):
Nintendo vault
um, we talked about this before
but like I genuinely like I'mnot sure if it's somebody would.
I don't think it's somebodywithin the companies, but that's
possibility there, I think wewe see images of people holding
these physical games like earlyright, like so it's got to be
that they're dumping the game.
Andre GameXplain (44:35):
Yeah I, yeah,
I think it's just.
I mean they have to ship thesegames to stores in advance, of
course, so everyone cansynchronize the release right,
and there's just no way to, youknow, prevent people from
getting early access that way.
I mean, I know people who'vegone them on the pop stores
themselves and just bought thegame early from there because
you know they're they'refriendly with the the other yeah
, they just hand it over.
(44:56):
Um, I mean, they pay for it, ofcourse, but yeah, that's legit.
But then from that point, theycan do whatever with the game.
Um, I don't, yeah, I don'tfully understand how the
security system works on switch,but I think the fact that the
original system got hacked thefirst of the system, which
there's a ton of, got hacked- Ithink made it easy for people to
.
I could be talking on my buttright now, but I think that made
it easier for people to grabthe keys needed to emulate the
(45:20):
games, and so I assume, if thatis a problem, switch 2 would
probably address that by.
Oh, I mean they've alreadyaddressed it on Switch, but
because there are older versionsthat work, I mean they've
already addressed it on Switch,but because there are older
versions that work, it's still aproblem.
But I imagine Switch 2, they'vedone their best to prevent this
from happening again, although,who knows, people get creative.
MattLong6 Gaming (45:36):
They'll find a
way eventually.
It'll take some time, hopefully.
Brandon Hurles (45:40):
Yeah, I mean
that's the whole reason they did
the V2 Switch, I believe right.
Yeah, that was the whole reasonto prevent what was going on,
but there were already so manyout there.
I know people I've seenlistings on Facebook Marketplace
that people are listing this asa higher price because this is
a V1 Switch.
So you know what you're buyingthis for.
You know what I mean.
(46:01):
So it's actually kind of hardto find a V1 Switch, because
anytime I see Switches come by,they're usually a V2 Switch.
There I see switches come bylike they're usually a V2 switch
.
There's just more of them outthere, I feel like, but yeah,
they seem to like sell for ahigher price and stuff.
Because people are doing thatand I think it is the shipping
(46:21):
to the store.
I just like, how soon do theyneed to get to the stores?
Like I wonder, I would like toknow somehow, like how soon
these are being shipped thestores.
Like I wonder, I wonder, Iwould like to know somehow, like
how soon these are beingshipped to stores?
Like are we talking two weeksbefore?
Are we talking this?
This is already there a monthbefore?
Are we talking?
You know, it's got it's got tobe like at least a week, right?
(46:45):
Like we gotta make sure thatyou're shipping all over the
world, right, so it's gotta be.
I would think several weeks, Idon't know, like how soon do you
need to ship these games to thestore?
I think that might be one ofthe problems, and you would
think that they try to figureout a way to address it from
happening.
But I wonder, because they'refocused on Switch 2, do they
(47:10):
even care now, at this point?
And I don't know.
Andre GameXplain (47:15):
Yeah, I'm
actually surprised they didn't
release Switch 2 sooner, just totry and head off all the
emulation earlier.
But I guess if you had the OLEDand Switch Lite would be enough
in the revision they made, butit wasn't obviously.
Brandon Hurles (47:28):
Yeah, I mean the
launch of it's, the, this
game's in like a week, so thatgives us sort of a time frame
that yeah, hey, there's at leasta week there.
Uh, but I've seen I'm trying toremember which game it was but
somebody took a picture of the,the physical game in their hand.
It was like a month early.
I want to say it was.
It might have been echoes, Ithink it was echoes.
(47:52):
Somebody on x, you know, likeyou've seen those, I'm sure,
andre right, where people havetaken photos with these games
early physically in their hand,right, yeah, and they're like in
, you know, not a like warehouselocation, very obviously by the
, the picture and stuff.
So yeah, it's interesting.
Um, you know, kind of sucks,because also, what that leads to
(48:14):
is, you know, spoilers andstuff before the game even comes
out and like, yes, this is a, aremaster, but it does have
additional content.
So this one is not such a bigdeal with that.
But games like echoes or tearsof the Kingdom or things like
that, it does matter To me, itdefinitely, and it's happening
across all consoles.
So this isn't just a Nintendothing, but I've noticed it's
(48:36):
happening with a lot of the AAAreleases from Nintendo.
Andre GameXplain (48:42):
Mr Coffee in
the chat mentions that back in
the day when the game industrywas smaller, that games often
arrived at stores day of releaseor uh, or they pick it up from
local distributors directlybefore sunrise.
So that's interesting.
That's definitely changedbecause, yeah, we know they get
the games at least a few daysearly, if not more yeah, yeah.
Brandon Hurles (49:02):
No, that's
definitely interesting that and
that makes sense to me.
Uh, I kind of brought up thatpoint about like doing a one day
shipping thing, but a very,very quick shipping, because I
feel like they can afford toship those out, maybe with a
quick shipping, but maybe not.
(49:22):
I don't know the logistics ofall of it, but that is
interesting for sure.
Thanks for letting us know that, mr Coffee.
I know that, mr coffee.
Uh, there, was.
MattLong6 Gaming (49:30):
Um.
I know that the lego magazinealso has leaked games before,
because they made toys for thegame and then they released
pictures of their toys beforethe the game was announced yeah,
I used to get the lego magazine.
Brandon Hurles (49:47):
I loved le back
in the day.
I still think it's cool.
If it was affordable I'd stillbe into it.
I really wanted to get the NESand the Mario question block and
Atari 2600 and all those videogame ones that came out.
But, my Lord, our Lego isexpensive.
You think gaming is expensive?
Get the Lego man.
Andre GameXplain (50:09):
I see the Lego
right here, theygo man.
I see the game systems oh mygod they are.
Brandon Hurles (50:12):
They're well.
That's the thing.
It's like buying the nes.
MattLong6 Gaming (50:15):
It's like I
can get a real nes for way
cheaper than that yeah, this isa lego set, you know, but
collectors are going to collectum should we take a moment and
look at some of the comments wehave?
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can gothere cosmic says um have, do
any of us play, uh, atomichearts, because apparently
(50:40):
there's a new dlc for thatcoming out?
I, I haven't played atomicheart, um, but I don't know.
I didn't know what you guys did, or not, by chance, I haven't
played it.
Brandon Hurles (50:52):
No, I'm aware of
it.
I don't know what type of gameit is, though, or anything.
I don't know if it's like adark souls type game.
Andre GameXplain (50:58):
I can't
remember I feel like every game
is considered yeah yeah, forsure I can't
MattLong6 Gaming (51:05):
remember siege
uh tournament happened and the
FaZe clan won and theyapparently went up against BDS
and wiped the floor with them.
Okay, Nice?
Brandon Hurles (51:17):
I don't know
anything about that.
MattLong6 Gaming (51:20):
Nor I either.
Cosmic's my editor and he'sreally, really into siege, so I
don't know.
Are there any other commentsand anything else, guys in the
you guys want?
I'm talking to the audience,sorry.
Any of you guys want to leaveany comments?
We're reading comments rightnow, but we're going to head
(51:40):
back over to our normal stuffhere in a second.
Brandon Hurles (51:44):
I know fawn
wanted to talk yeah, I've just
been uh pulling some comments upand stuff here, here and there
as I see them, but uh, sorry I Istole away from the podcast.
MattLong6 Gaming (51:54):
Let's go back
to the podcast all right.
Brandon Hurles (51:58):
Uh, we've got
silent hill f?
Uh has revealed some newinformation about the story and
setting and different thingsgoing on with it.
There is a?
Uh trailer reveal out there forit as well that you can look up
.
Um actually might be able tosee if I can do this without
(52:23):
potentially um maybe.
Maybe that's not gonna work, sobut uh anyway.
So what they've said on it iscombining the classic
psychological horrors of thesilent hill franchise with an
unexpected japanese setting.
Uh looks to bring the coreelements of silent hill to
(52:45):
players in a new way.
The familiar other worldreplaces its traditional chain
link fencing and barbed wirewith overgrown flowers and
animalistic tendrils.
Uh, just deformed monsters thatbring the tears of japanese
horror to life.
So it definitely looks like a?
Um.
Looking at the images lookslike a like visually a very good
(53:09):
looking game.
Um, and definitely it gives melike kind of I don't know
something like the grudge or thering, where, like those, those
came out of japan first typetype of vibes that the might
might be going for.
Just based on a couple of thescreenshots that I see, but it
does look interesting.
(53:30):
I still haven't played theSilent Hill 2 remake though, so
I don't know if either of youguys have played.
MattLong6 Gaming (53:37):
I haven't
played Silent Hill.
Andre GameXplain (53:38):
I've heard
it's good, but I haven't played
it yeah, I played about an hourof the remake and then I did
actually finish the Wii versionforever ago.
Shattered Memories, oh yeahyeah, I remember that.
Brandon Hurles (53:49):
Yeah, yeah, that
was I.
I liked that then.
I don't know if it would stillhold up.
Now I have it still.
I haven't played it again sinceI beat it when it when it was
new.
Andre GameXplain (54:01):
I remember
being chased by those horrible
monsters.
I hate being chased in gamesand I'm like oh god, this whole
game is built around it for sure, uh, but yeah, yeah, definitely
interesting.
Brandon Hurles (54:12):
There's a big
cult following and stuff for
Silent Hill and Silent Hill 2Remake, I think, did very, very
well.
I think it brought a lot ofattention to the series and kind
of made it not so much just acult classic series anymore.
So I think it's good.
I mean, this is what they needto do to keep a series you know
running is keep these gamesalive, because there for a long
(54:32):
time we weren't getting anygames and it's good to see a
series you know doing well, sothat's cool it is absolutely all
right, and this one's kind of aquick one.
I thought it was veryinteresting, but this just came
out today that Warhammer 40,000Space Marine 3 was officially
(54:54):
announced.
I know the game did very well.
Me and Mark played through thewhole thing on stream, so we had
a pretty good time with it.
Have either of you guys playedone or two?
MattLong6 Gaming (55:07):
I have not
played it.
I have played the tabletopversion a little bit, but not a
lot yeah, I don't.
Brandon Hurles (55:15):
Yeah, the one
thing that we kept saying about
it during stream is like wedon't know what's going on at
all.
All the way to the end of thegame, we didn't understand what
was going on in the story.
We didn't get it.
Um, we also didn't play one andwe don't play the tabletop
games, so we just didn'tunderstand what the heck was
going on in the game.
But the gameplay was fun.
(55:36):
It's like Gears of War, likeclassic Gears of War, so it was
pretty interesting.
But, yeah, we had a pretty goodtime with it.
So that's cool to see.
I know it did very well.
It had a very active user baseand stuff on Steam when it first
came out.
Well, I had a very active userbase and stuff on steam when it
first came out.
And, um, obviously, if they,you know, kicked off development
for a new game already there,it definitely did well for them.
(55:57):
So that's cool to see, for sure.
And then, last for news is thisis this one's kind of a weird
one, because we don't knowanything on it, necessarily, but
people are wondering whyPokemon Legends ZA is rated E10+
(56:19):
rather than just E.
So I thought it was kind ofinteresting.
I wonder what exactly it'll saythere and what's causing that.
But it's kind of funny that, um, I saw a whole bunch of stuff
about this like all over, likepeople talking about.
I'm also kind of like in thepokemon sphere of things and
social media, so I'm getting fedthat stuff all the time.
(56:41):
I saw a lot of people talkingabout it more than I would think
, because of violence, violence,keep going.
Yeah, it's, I'm, that's I, Idon't know, and pokemon always
had that, though what changedexactly?
Andre GameXplain (56:59):
yeah, I I
personally don't think like
anything changed.
It just comes down to thepeople that rated the game
general well.
I I guess I think sometimesit's handled, I forget how it's
handled.
Brandon Hurles (57:08):
now Is it like?
Andre GameXplain (57:09):
individuals
that rated it.
Well, I know the MSRP, msr, no,not the MSRB, the ESRB.
Brandon Hurles (57:15):
ESRB, esrb, no.
What's the movie?
Andre GameXplain (57:17):
version MSRP.
Brandon Hurles (57:18):
MSRP?
I don't know.
No, MSRP is prices.
Andre GameXplain (57:24):
Okay, that
organization themselves looks at
it.
I think it's a little differentthan gaming, where it's based
on specific moments that theygained a lot of percent over.
In any case, I don't think itmeans anything, but I remember
when Smash Bros Brawl came out,it gota T rating somehow even
though it was functionally nodifferent from Smash Bros Melee.
Yeah, exactly.
MattLong6 Gaming (57:44):
Oh, it was
Melee actually.
Oh my gosh, I never looked atthis Look.
Oh, it was Melee actually.
Oh my gosh, I never looked atthis.
Andre GameXplain (57:52):
Look at this
Look at this, Look at this so
ready T Yep, t E 10 and up.
What Like what?
What is that?
Okay, I didn't even actually.
If anything, I would say, smashBrothers Wii U had more.
MattLong6 Gaming (58:04):
E 10 and up
again.
What the heck.
Andre GameXplain (58:05):
Wii.
What the heck when you hadbayonetta right like I think
that's more yeah it's more likerisque.
I guess exactly mature yeah soI don't think it means anything.
I think you know if it doesmean something, it's such a
minor thing it's such a minorthing.
Brandon Hurles (58:19):
Yeah, it really
doesn't matter at the end of the
day, but I thought it waspretty like six minutes.
What the heck I guess I don'tpay attention to nintendo games
like ever with that, becauseonce you can buy anyone, does it
matter?
Yeah yeah, yeah, it doesn'tobviously as an adult doesn't
doesn't necessarily matter to me, but, um, yeah, I know that's.
That's interesting.
(58:39):
What wasn't there like onenintendo game was it?
Was it on the ds maybe, orsomething that got an m rating?
Wasn't there a nintendo gamethat got an m rating?
Andre GameXplain (58:50):
well, they
recently that, uh, whatever it's
called famicom club or whateverdetective club yeah I got an m
rating from the tent oh yeah,yeah, they did get an m rating,
didn't it?
Brandon Hurles (59:02):
there's some,
maybe it was a third party
developer, but it was like kindof shocking or something to see
an m rating on a nintendo systemor something at the time as we
like everybody's talking about,I remember that the only other
thing I can think of was, uh,conqueror's bad for a day,
though that was technicallypublished by rare and yeah,
right, yeah, that very much feltlike a nintendo published thing
even but yeah, yeah, it did, itdid.
(59:24):
Yeah, that's uh, I forgot aboutthe famicom detective Club,
that's right Interesting theydon't normally steer far away
from that.
MattLong6 Gaming (59:35):
I'm looking up
.
Pikmin 1 and 2 on the GameCubeare each rated E, but then it's
E10 and up together.
Andre GameXplain (59:43):
I guess two
E's make E10+.
I guess so.
Brandon Hurles (59:47):
The politics of
ESRB have changed as well.
Something there?
Yeah, there's something goingon there, but no, I just thought
it was interesting to bringthat up because, um, a lot of
people talking about it, it'sjust all over.
Andre GameXplain (01:00:01):
Nothing too as
well every couple years, I
think is on it here.
Yeah, yeah, the internal ruling, and yeah he is always on it.
Brandon Hurles (01:00:08):
He's always on
top of things seems like yeah,
yeah, he needs a.
He needs to come on the podcastone of these days, all right, uh
, yeah, so I just came up withsome questions and I guess we
can roll through a couple ofthese if you guys are okay with
that.
Uh, let's see the first one Ihad.
I just said what do you thinkmakes the Super Mario series so
(01:00:30):
universally beloved acrossdifferent generations?
And I was kind of thinkingobviously a little more Nintendo
with this one, especially withhaving Andre on and Matt you as
well, you're a big Nintendo fan.
But I was kind of thinkingabout kind of what made Mario
kind of attach itself to so manypeople and why it's so big.
(01:00:52):
Now they say bigger than mickeymouse.
Mickey mouse isn't reallyrelevant now.
Yeah, it hasn't made itselfrelevant since, like the mickey
mouse clubhouse or whatever.
Andre GameXplain (01:01:00):
The last does
mickey have a movie of his own?
Brandon Hurles (01:01:02):
I think not
right, the movie is a big point
there, but I do remember peoplesaying that before the movie,
that I remember hearing thatthat he was the most well-known
character or something likeuniversally.
Andre GameXplain (01:01:17):
Yeah, he
definitely was for a huge chunk
of time.
Yeah.
Brandon Hurles (01:01:20):
Yeah.
So what do you guys think?
Kind of attached itself toeverybody, because everybody
knows Mario, and is it?
You know, it was just somethingI was sort of thinking about.
I mean, we all love mario, butwhat makes it stand out more
than, say, even like sonic, youknow, in the back in the the
(01:01:41):
heyday, of course they had theirrivalry, but I think sonic
would be, you know, probablylike somewhere in like 10th
place to to mario or somethinglike that as far as being
recognizable to everybody atthis point.
So I just kind of wonder aboutthat what made Mario attach
itself to Maddox?
MattLong6 Gaming (01:02:03):
sorry my
wife's on the phone so she's
talking.
That's why I muted, but anyways, to me it's just nostalgic.
Everyone loves Mario, prettymuch Just like Lego.
No one hates Lego.
I hate Lego.
No no, no, don't be that guy.
Brandon Hurles (01:02:23):
Stepping on Lego
.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:02:24):
That's the
worst, but it's just nostalgic
for me.
I mean Mario 64, one of themost nostalgic ones for 3D space
, and then they also have 2Dplatformers, which are really
really good as well.
Andre GameXplain (01:02:42):
Yeah, I think
that's a huge part of it.
I think it's largely that thegames are just good.
They bring a level of joy thatI feel like few other games can
match.
Like I mentioned earlier,playing through Galaxy 2 is just
so delightful delightful andthat's the case for a lot of
mario games like they're just alot of fun.
Right, and two is that mariohimself is just like adorable,
you know, just like this cutelittle plump, human, right like
(01:03:05):
kind of everyday man.
He, you know, he wasn't, hewasn't born as a superhero or
something, he just ended upbeing one.
Yeah, I think that on some level, that is appealing too.
You know, I don't know that'sthe main thing, but I think it's
a factor.
And I think you take the factthat games are really good, they
have this really personal funcharacter and you just have like
a winning recipe there.
And I think that's where sonicgoes wrong is that their games,
(01:03:27):
his games, aren't always homeruns and that's why it hasn't
resonated quite as much as mariohas.
Um, though, I do know likeamong kids like my, my sister or
my nieces, uh, they, theyfreaking love sonic.
Brandon Hurles (01:03:38):
They don't care
about mario song, though they're
, they're there there'ssomething weird about that,
though, that I because I have anine-year-old daughter.
She knows sonic through roblox,so I don't know if they play
roblox at all, uh, but it's verypopular in roblox for some
reason, as a character.
Uh, yeah, no, I to me just kindof the points that I thought
(01:04:01):
were mario established,established itself in a big way
with 2d platformers being likethe definitive 2d platformer.
Um, mario obviously establisheditself with Super Mario 64.
When you saw him jumping out ofthat pipe, that was a huge
moment for so many kids that hadthe Nintendo 64.
That was huge.
(01:04:22):
To see that in 3D, it was areally big moment.
Their games are almost alwayspolished.
You know what to expect whenyou're picking up a Mario game.
That's kind of what I thoughtof.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:04:36):
I think you're
nailing it on the head.
Andre GameXplain (01:04:38):
To Matt's
point too the fact that it's
been this consistent so far.
It means that people as old asI am have nostalgia going back
for decades.
Now A lot of people have theirkids of their own who are also
growing up with these greatgames.
That's partly why it's, youknow, spanning generations,
especially now with the wholeyou know movie thing being in
theme parks, like I think it'sonly going to grow from here, um
(01:04:59):
, which is wild, because Mariois already so well known yeah,
yeah, definitely, mr Coffee said.
Brandon Hurles (01:05:06):
uh, personally,
disney shifted how it shared
Mickey Mouse growing up youwould see Mickey cartoons
regularly on TV, in merch andparks and was more affordable.
Yeah.
Andre GameXplain (01:05:17):
Oh, one more
thing.
Oh sorry, go ahead.
Oh no, go ahead, you're good.
There's one more thing, realquick, that I don't.
For some reason I don't know ifit's supposed to the chats on
my Twitch aren't coming throughhere.
I think Butters Alliance saidMickey did have some movies, but
they're direct to video ones,not theatrical.
Yeah See, I'm surprised Disneyhasn't done this yet.
I would be surprised if, afterlooking at the Mario movie,
(01:05:38):
they're not reconsidering thingsright now and would consider
making a Mickey movie, because Ithink they're going to.
I think it would help Mickey,because I feel like you know
Mickey's just kind of there, heis a cute character as well, but
you never really think of themmuch, whereas you know Mario's
just everywhere and yeah, yeah,I like I've never really played
any games.
Brandon Hurles (01:05:57):
You guys are
talking about what?
Right?
MattLong6 Gaming (01:06:04):
He must not
have a Nintendo.
Brandon Hurles (01:06:07):
Yeah, that's,
that's interesting.
Yeah, I think I think Disney'sproblem is focusing.
They put way too way too muchstock into Marvel and Star Wars,
so that's been a big focus in alot of.
I mean, like you know, a lot ofmy bombs, you know, aren't
doing good, and Star Wars movies, like if they're very mixed on,
(01:06:29):
if people like them at all, youknow, and a lot, a lot of
marvel movies aren't doing verywell.
I know deadpool, wolverine didvery good, that was fun.
Andre GameXplain (01:06:37):
I'm not a huge
marvel guy.
I had fun about one, yeah thatwas good.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:06:39):
I used to be a
huge marvel guy, but ever since
the arc when after thanossnapped and stuff, pretty much a
lot of movies after that havebeen hit or miss.
Andre GameXplain (01:06:49):
Yep, that's
that's a big part of it and by
relying so much on those twobrands and being inconsistent
with the quality, especially forstar Wars, it's just damaging
both.
You know we saw the new captainAmerica.
Uh, did did relatively poorly.
And then every star Wars movieis just like a a mess of a
reaction to it.
Some people like it, some peopledon't, or a lot of people you
(01:07:09):
know, are on both sides but it'sincreasingly becoming, you know
, divisive, uh, for every starwars entry, and you know they
just got to figure it out,whereas mario or mario
nintendo's been very deliberate,perhaps to an extreme degree,
waiting 30 years for anothertheatrical, theatrical attempt.
But it worked out, you know.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:26):
And uh, yeah,
hopefully disney moves on from
just marvel and star wars yeah,super 8 and brought up a really
good point that there is alooney tunes movie, that that's
a theatrical movie out now.
So that's that, if looney tunescan do it, you know, um, I
definitely think mickey mousehas the opportunity there to do
something.
Andre GameXplain (01:07:46):
There's got to
be something right, yeah, and
shout out to uh antonio in ourcommunity, who actually worked
on the new looney Tunes movie.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:52):
No.
Andre GameXplain (01:07:54):
Wow, I'm
excited now.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:55):
That's cool.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:07:58):
When does the
Looney Tunes movie come out this
weekend, right?
Andre GameXplain (01:08:03):
Yeah, it's out
now.
It's out today.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:08:05):
Oh, okay,
today.
Andre GameXplain (01:08:06):
They have
almost no marketing for it.
So if it bombs, that's probablywhy, because no one knows it's
out.
Brandon Hurles (01:08:22):
Today's Pi Day
it.
So if it bombs, that's probablywhy, because no one knows it's
out.
So today's pi day, so there's alot of mathematical things in
it or something.
Yeah, uh, okay.
So this is next question here.
We'll just do, we'll do.
But basically I'm just kind ofasking do you think that Metroid
will have a bigger revival withMetroid Prime 4 at all?
(01:08:44):
Do you think it's going to makea big impact for the series?
Metroid Dread sold the most,but it still didn't sell
significant numbers.
It didn't sell crazy numbers.
It sold the most in the entireseries, but it still didn't sell
, you know, significant numbers.
Right, it didn't sell crazynumbers.
It sold the most in the entireseries, but it still wasn't yeah
, barely more.
Andre GameXplain (01:08:58):
Yeah, yeah,
that's being compared to other
metroid games on systems thatsold like one-tenth of what the
switch has it's really not thatimpressive, taking that into
consideration yeah, yeah,exactly, yeah, uh, so do you?
Brandon Hurles (01:09:11):
I mean, what do
you guys think metroid prime 4
will have a sort of impact for,for the series?
Do you think it'll make youknow, make it more popular again
?
Or because?
MattLong6 Gaming (01:09:22):
it's a 3D
shooter.
I'm not entirely sure.
I know my nephew, for somereason, has fallen in love with
Metroid and collected everysingle game, even games that
came out before it was born andstuff.
I know he'll play it and he'lllet me know everything about it.
I don't know if it's going tobring anything.
(01:09:45):
I don't know if it's going tobring back hype for Metroid or
not.
Andre GameXplain (01:09:50):
Yeah, I think
if it's truly only a Switch 1
title, I can't see it doing muchbetter than the series already
has.
Like maybe it'll become thebest selling game by a small
margin, like dread was before it, potentially I I think it's.
I might be biased if I made awhole video.
You know, talking about myexpectations of the switch to
launch, um, but I think its bestchance is to launch alongside
(01:10:12):
the switch to still on switchone.
Think its best chance is tolaunch alongside the switch to
still on switch one but alsohave a you know a variant or
upgrade, you know, for switchtwo to capture that early hype,
you know, uh, energy from thefrom the launch, and then that's
his best chance of expandingthe audience.
Otherwise I think it's gonna get, you know, washed over or
ignored by a lot of peoplebecause it's just another
metroid game and uh, yeah, butyou know I could be wrong.
(01:10:35):
It might depend on what thegame actually is.
A little bit we've seen so farlooks very metroid prime like,
but you know, which is great.
I'm a huge fan metroid prime.
But at the same time, is thatenough to cater to a larger
market?
So hopefully there's more theretoo.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:10:45):
That would
appeal people beyond what we've
seen so similar to what they didwith mario kart 8, where it was
on Wii U, then they put it onSwitch, right, yeah.
Andre GameXplain (01:10:55):
And.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:10:55):
Breath of the
Wild.
They did that similar.
Andre GameXplain (01:10:58):
Yeah, breath
of the Wild is a great example,
because Zelda games had soldwell before Breath of the Wild.
But Breath of the Wild sold, Ithink, four times what the
series had been sellingpreviously.
So if Metroid does somethingsimilar, it won't be as big as
Breath of the Wild.
That'd still be possibly 12million units, which is 4 times
what it currently sells, andthat would be huge.
And even though it's half ofthat, that's still double what a
(01:11:21):
series typically pulls in.
I hope that Nintendo's lookingat it, because this game's been
in development for what?
7-8 years now and it kind ofneeds to be big.
Brandon Hurles (01:11:32):
Andre, do you
remember when they metroid dread
was the same way, it was inlike development hell as well?
Um, they announced it.
I remember the nintendo powerissue they were talking about.
It was supposed to come out onthe ds and it never came out.
Andre GameXplain (01:11:47):
There were
screenshots and everything there
was a tease of metroid prime 3,even where they mentioned a
dread yeah, yes, the metroidseries being, it does not have
good luck.
Brandon Hurles (01:11:58):
I don't know
what it is that you know because
it's been there since nes aswell and it was.
You know it's considered likean nes staple and like super
metroid for the super nintendo,for like all the retro gamers,
like a big deal.
But for some reason it justnever caught on in the same way
and I don't, I don't quite knowwhy.
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I mean like they've never.
You don't see the samemarketing push for metroid.
I know that's not there.
Um, there's been stuff for it.
Of course they've doneadvertisement stuff for the
games in the past and in themagazines and stuff like that,
but there's never been a big,big push for the series that I
can ever remember and in mylifetime I don't.
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I just don't remember seeing abig push like I did for mario or
zelda, no, which is unfortunatebecause it's a great series.
Andre GameXplain (01:12:48):
I love it yeah
, no, it is good, and it's been
a long time since we've had a 3dentry.
So yeah, yeah, sure has.
Speaking of threes, cosmicradiation in the chat says you
know what else is in development?
Brandon Hurles (01:12:59):
hell, half-life
3 oh yeah, oh yeah, that's
really that.
That one, I don't know if it'sever coming out.
Oh man, that's one, that's uh.
Yeah, you remember duke nukemforever.
Andre GameXplain (01:13:10):
It was like 12
years I was at a mock review
event for that game where wegive the developer feedback on
it, and I think we all agreedthat the game was trash then and
it came out and everyonethought it was trash too.
It's like, yeah, that gamesucked.
Brandon Hurles (01:13:23):
So I had it
pre-ordered for like three years
and I got the collector'sedition that came with the
statue.
We were so excited to get thegame.
We we love Duke Nukem for somereason.
Somehow we got kind of attachedto the series and it was just
like it was kind of a letdownman.
It was like what happened?
It had like four iterations ofthe game that got developed and
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stuff.
So that was a.
That was a crazy one, all right.
So I guess for our lastquestion, for the podcast here,
we'll ask do you think thefuture of Nintendo console lies
in the hybrid model only, orwill they try something entirely
different after Switch 2?
You think that this model'sgoing to stick?
Andre GameXplain (01:14:07):
If Switch 2 is
a success, there's no way they
switch.
I don't even know where they gofrom here.
Hybrid is it has to be hybrid.
Nintendo's basically lockedthemselves into this now.
It has to be hybrid becauseeven let's say even
theoretically they release ahandheld only in the future.
There's no way we're gonna havesome kind of video output at
the same time they're making ahybrid right.
(01:14:27):
So I think they're they'rebasically stuck with us and
which works for their favor.
I said before that nintendo Ifirmly believe, believe Nintendo
is the only one that got pulledoff the system at the time that
they did back in 2017.
Because for everyone else Xbox,playstation it would have been
a huge visual downgrade.
Nintendo, though coming off thefairly modest Wii U, they were
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able to make a portable asstrong as that, if not a little
bit more powerful, in the formof the Switch, and make it a
hybrid and call it a truesuccessor, and that worked out
for them, whereas again, for theothers, their games would have
looked worse on the handheldsystem.
Yeah, and it also fitsNintendo's general ethos in
making the best of limitedhardware.
Even though the Switch 2 will bea massive upgrade, it still
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won't be Xbox or PS5 strong.
Right, be a massive upgrade, itstill won't be xbox or ps5
strong, you know, right, yeahand uh.
And that works in their favor.
That results in cheaper gamesfor them to make um on cheaper
hardware.
And yeah, I just can't.
I cannot imagine a world inthem stepping away like the only
alternative, really.
I mean, I guess you know theycould go back to the console
route and go full power, butagain I don't think I don't see
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that happening.
Yeah, or vr, but vr seems to bekind of a dead market again,
you know, and uh, I think thisis it.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:15:36):
I don't know.
I just bought the quest 3s oh,hey, nice.
Andre GameXplain (01:15:40):
I mean, I have
a quest 2 and I enjoy it, but
or I enjoyed it, but I almostnever pulled out, um, sadly, I
would like to, but it's just ahuge barrier it's a big niche.
Brandon Hurles (01:15:49):
I mean, you saw
what happened with the psvr too,
which is unfortunate um yeah, Ibought that and still regretted
it yeah, yeah, I mean, when itfirst came out I I got the uh
horizon um bundle and I was,like you know, kind of cool.
It was my first vr experiencetoo oh, as a first, that'd be
really cool yeah yeah, I playedsome really cool stuff on it,
(01:16:11):
for sure, but it is like it'sone of those things that's niche
and it's for that one.
I know it's not.
You know, meta quest three, uh,or meta quest period, is kind
of solve the problem of havingto be plugged in, but that's
really annoying, like a cable isso annoying.
That's that's one one big thingabout that.
But, um, yeah, no, it's still,that's still a niche market and
(01:16:32):
I think it'll continue to grow.
You know, I think I do thinkthere's there's a following for
that.
But I think, as far as Nintendo,with this I pretty much agree
with you, andre.
I think they've kind of lockedthemselves into it and that
could be a good or bad thing forsome people.
You know, I do see the peopleout there that say they miss the
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dedicated home console.
That's just a console.
They want something beefierfrom Nintendo.
But it's not them anymore.
They kind of left that in theGameCube era.
They left that behind there.
That's kind of how I feel it.
It's okay.
They've always done somethingweird and innovative, even with
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the gamecube.
The gamecube, right, it's acube, like you know.
It's got a handle.
It's got a handle to travelwith, you know.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:17:24):
So I, I don't,
I don't know I mean they might
bring back the virtual boy andremaster it.
But I think um something theycould do is um different docs,
so you switch out docs, um, soone's more powerful and you can
actually play some type of discgame or something that's more
(01:17:45):
powerful, but then you stillalways are going to have that
option to take it with you onthe go, that they are the best
selling one for anything to takewith you inside the phone
truthfully, I I feel like switch2 is the last um is the last of
physical media for a gameconsole.
Brandon Hurles (01:18:09):
That's how I
feel feel like playstation xbox
leaving it behind.
I don't even know what Xbox isgoing to do after the handheld.
We might not even actually getanother console from Xbox.
I don't know.
You know it's Series X has notdone well.
Andre GameXplain (01:18:24):
Although there
was just recently a report,
like literally a few days ago, Iforget, oh, windows Central.
They were reporting that theyhave a handheld coming out this
year that apparently will have.
Xbox branding but be more PCfocused, in that the next
successor to the Series X wouldbe in 2027, I think, so we'll
see that happen.
Brandon Hurles (01:18:44):
Yeah, yeah, I
saw that as well.
You know, I forgot to put theXbox handheld in there.
I meant to do that in the notes.
That is my bad, but yeah, thankyou for bringing that up.
Um, yeah, they're doing that.
We kind of knew about thatbefore, but we got official word
of it and we've talked about ita few times, actually the xbox
handheld stuff.
(01:19:04):
So, um, I think everybody wantsto get in the handheld space
right now.
It's a, you know, it's a goodspace to be in for people, it
seems I think xbox's nextconsole won't be a console.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:19:17):
we're going to
do a thing like what sega did,
where they kind of just sellsome of their stuff and then
they're just going to focus likethey'll sell some of their ips
or whatever, but they're goingto focus on they're providing um
xbox game pass to the otherconsoles, or something like that
is what I think, though I cansee like a dedicated streaming
device for game pass orsomething.
Brandon Hurles (01:19:39):
Yeah, maybe too.
Yeah, I, I don't.
I know they say these companieslook, all of them, including
Nintendo, say a lot of stuff.
So I don't believe it.
Andre GameXplain (01:19:50):
Until we get
closer to to that date,
necessarily, we just the xboxhardware is not doing well, uh,
hasn't done well since the 360that was the only only era that
did well yeah, and I mean,you're right, that wasn't one
that where they really came outswinging, though I did
appreciate the original xbox too, for, like I, oh I mean too I
(01:20:12):
love it, yeah, for what it didfor gaming in general and it
sold about as much as thegamecube, which not isn't bad
for their first outing.
But you're right, like it's,it's kind of like it feels like
a dying platform.
And you know, mr coffee in thechat says, I think xbox fan or
sorry, uh, but is anyone askingfor an xbox handheld?
And I don't think they are,because it feels like going
locking yourself into xbox nowfeels like a mistake because
(01:20:33):
with them playing their games onother platforms, why not just
buy a competing system where youthen get those exclusives as
well?
So honestly, I think Xbox'sonly chance here is they just
make a kick-ass handheld thatcan play games across a variety
of platforms.
The rumor or not rumor, thereport was that it was a part of
multiple storefronts like theEpic Store, even Steam.
(01:20:54):
That would allow it access tothe Steam Deck library,
basically, and then they haveGame Pass on there.
It would be a great addition,you know.
Yeah, Game Pass is a big deal,especially if they roll in like
a free three, six, nine monthsor whatever for buying a
handheld.
That's a pretty compellingoffer that instantly gets you
access to a big library of gamesplus anything on Steam, and if
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it's more powerful than SteamDeck and Switch 2, I could see
it.
I think it's a stretch.
I don't think it'll beat Switch1 big, but it could maybe beat
competition for the Steam Deck.
Brandon Hurles (01:21:27):
Here's my only
thing about that is I was
thinking too.
I was like, oh well, it ismicrosoft, so they've got the
most access to getting somebeefy hardware.
Right, because this is going tobe uh, this is, I think, from
what I understood.
I could be wrong.
This is going to be xboxbranded, but it's made by
somebody else right, that'scorrect by like a third party
(01:21:48):
manufacturer.
Yeah, okay, so they could dothat.
But think about like what?
The series x was also the mostbeefiest console when it came
out, and that did not matter atall yeah it just didn't matter.
And, um, I don't know if that'senough with handouts, because
I'm like how much we know thatwe're getting, um, new asus
(01:22:10):
rogue ally.
We know we're getting a newSteam Deck.
I mean, how much beefier couldthe handheld be right now with
this technology, be affordable?
Because Asus Rogue Ally X islike $800.
It's like getting a PC.
It is a PC, but it's likegetting a desktop at this point.
So I don't know If it's thatmuch beefier, is it going to be
(01:22:36):
affordable?
This is a thousand dollars.
Andre GameXplain (01:22:38):
That's a good
point.
That would be unfortunate.
Maybe they would be willing touh, sell it at a slight loss, to
take it back on, possibly, gamepass, um.
But you're right.
I mean, we've seen time andtime again, especially with like
nintendo, as we just mentioned,how, like hardware power seems
to be mattering less and less toa degree, because it's just
increasingly diminishing returns.
Brandon Hurles (01:22:58):
Yes, exactly.
Andre GameXplain (01:23:00):
Look how
undifferent the newest
generation of games lookcompared to PS4.
There's still some games on PS4that look like they could be
PS5 games, but I will say that Iwould think that that
difference is probably moreimpactful in the handheld space
right now, because there's stillsome games that Steam Deck
can't play, for instance, right,yeah, or if they can, they may
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look just terrible, and maybethat could be the difference
Xbox leans into, where, like hey, you can play even more games
on our version.
Because I think it could stillmatter there a little bit At
least, more than the consolespace.
Brandon Hurles (01:23:35):
I would love to.
I like the Xbox brand.
I have all the consoles.
I like the Xbox brand a lot.
I really do.
Andre GameXplain (01:23:42):
I like the
controller more than the PS5
controller.
Brandon Hurles (01:23:44):
I got two
sitting right here.
I use it for my PC.
It's great.
Andre GameXplain (01:23:48):
Good
controller, see look at that, we
all have it.
Brandon Hurles (01:23:51):
It's a great
controller.
It's excellent.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:23:53):
I use it for
Rocket League.
Brandon Hurles (01:23:55):
There you go.
Nice, I mean, it's perfected,but yeah, I'm interested to see
what happens.
I don't know, I really don'tknow, as far as that goes,
whether Xbox is going to stickaround.
I think it all depends on howthat handheld does, because they
picked up all these companiesand stuff too, all these
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different development studios.
It's like, oh, this is going tobe huge.
Xbox Series X is going to be sobig.
Wow, people were massively letdown.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:24:29):
There's going
to be a new Steam Deck.
I just got my wife one forChristmas.
Now I got an upgrade.
Andre GameXplain (01:24:38):
Yeah, there's
going to be a new steam deck I
just got my wife one forchristmas.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:24:40):
Now I gotta
upgrade.
Yeah, there's gonna be a.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, we've knownthat for a while, though
already to find out this way,how is the playstation portable
doing currently?
Brandon Hurles (01:24:44):
do we know
playstation portal is a horrible
device.
I have no, I'm sure it's notdoing well, maybe I got one
right here.
Andre GameXplain (01:24:51):
It's terrible
this might surprise you then,
brandon.
If I remember correctly, it'sapparently doing exceeding
sony's expectations for it whichis what does that mean, though?
True, they may have expectednothing, because I don't quite
see the appeal myself.
It's like isn't that just whatthe wii u did?
But you know even worse rightright I don't understand it, but
apparently it's working, forsome people at least, and I
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legitimately only got it for thechannel.
Brandon Hurles (01:25:15):
That was it.
And uh, no, I just had ahorrible.
I got fiber internet.
Like I test my speeds, you knowall the time they're always in
the 900s, always yeah and uhwork yeah.
Ps5s, right here, I've even gota ps5 pro and supposedly
supposed to work a little betterwith that.
Still, the update andeverything they've done.
I've not had a good experiencewith it.
(01:25:38):
I'm not sure.
I'm sure that it's done okay.
They got a new colorway out forit, that Galaxy Black or
whatever it is.
They just did all the blackcolors for all the hardware and
stuff.
Maybe it's done okay.
I just see them sitting all thetime at my local stores.
But you know, I don't know.
Maybe it's doing all right.
(01:25:59):
But yeah, I think that's all wegot for this week.
Appreciate having you on, mattand Andre.
It's been fun.
Thanks for having us.
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(01:26:20):
mark.
Will be back next week and uh,we'll have to hear about his
trip from uh japan and all thatstuff.
MattLong6 Gaming (01:26:27):
Jealous, yeah,
he better have gone to the
nintendo store.
Brandon Hurles (01:26:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna
ask him I'm gonna ask him or the
world, yeah to ask him, or theNintendo World.
Yeah, I don't know what he'sdoing.
I've heard very little from him, so he must be having a good
time.
He's going to a convention.
He went to a convention andstuff there too.
So, yeah, we'll have to hearabout that next week.
But yeah, andre, I hope to haveyou on again sometime soon.
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Matt, you as well, andappreciate everybody watching.
Thanks, mr Coffee, everybody inthe chat, dds Dave and the
People's Gamer 1979, shout outto you Thanks for coming by and
we'll see you all.