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Mark Trobough (00:00):
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode
of the Game Junction Podcast,episode 108.

Brandon Hurles (00:06):
Reppin' Mario.
Both of us this week, bro,what's?

up.
I wasn't even thinking about it.

B Wasn't thinking about it either, but we
got some big Mario stuff totalk about, so it actually kind
of works out a little bit there,oh, it works out perfectly.
Yeah, man, what a week, dude.
It's crazy.
There's a lot of stuff going onthis week.

Yeah, crazy to think it would be Like oh, it's
going to be a slow, quiet week.
Nah, man News stops for nobody,nope never.

I legitimately thought it was going to be a
slow week and like nope, stuffjust kept rolling out.
So I guess what's some of thestuff that we're talking about
this week?

Yeah, so we got some news Venom about this week.
Uh, yeah, so we got some newsuh, venom last dance.
We got some reviews on those.
I think that's uh are these.
How'd you?

put the this old stuff here that the orange is
old.
We forgot to delete thatbrandon's brandon labels.

I thought that was kind of weird that's my bad,
I'm sorry.

Okay, make sure I'm reading the right thing.
No, we got them.

I guess some of the proper stuff.
We got some ps5 pro.
Uh, we got some PS5 Proreleases.
No, I'm about to say reviewActual releases.
Ign kind of gave their thoughtson some stuff.
We had Mario and LuigiBrothership just dropped I was
actually streaming that over onTwitch last night.
Some new news about theNintendo Switch Obviously, the
bunch of leaks seem to becontinuing to go on.
For the Pokemon stuff, we gotsome news as far as the Pokemon

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trading card game goes, someZelda movie updates, some PAL
World news and a whole host ofother little bit smaller stuff
to definitely talk about.
Yeah for sure.

Actually, since you just brought it up, have you
been playing any Pokemon TCGPocket?
I have.
I think I'm a Pokemon TCGpocket.

I have.
I think I'm a level 11 rightnow.
I'm probably past you.
Yeah, oh you're.
You're tracking me.
I was intentionally trying toget ahead of you on the levels.

I was and I kind of went anybody in my levels.
To be honest with you, I don'teven know how no, I went all ham
Cause.

Like they give you a bunch of those little
timed things to open packsfaster.
I've used the open 10 at oncethree times already.
I can't fast open packs.
Have you spent any money?
No, well, the problem is youcan't spend money to open packs
faster, which I think was a goodchoice on their end.

You could spend money by doing the gold program,
where you can open two packs aday.
I'm doing it because you gettwo week trial for it.
So I'm just going to do the twoweek trial.
You know what?
I want to pull it up right now.
It might be time to open up apack actually.

Because outside of that, which is a little
negligible, you have to domissions and rewards and stuff
like that.
There's no pick and win.
If I can go out right now andbuy like as many pokemon cards I
could possibly affordfinancially would be a really
bad decision, but I I do likethat and then I was mainly going
through and just doing a lot ofthe solo stuff I was trying to
do get all the rewards on thesolo missions, because they just

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dropped a what's it?
a lapras ex one yeah, I saw thatit's the last two, two missions
on the hardest expert one,which is when 10 matches, when
20 matches.
The problem is, oh, the AI'sdeck is so stacked with.
Ex cards and it's just likeunless you've got like the best
electric Pokemon out there to dothe bonus damage, it's almost

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impossible to hardly get winsunless you just get.
You essentially have to getyour best cards and your
evolutions right out of the gateand play immediately, or your
chance to win is just negligible.
It's so frustrating.

Look at this pool crap ahead of me.

I'm like halfway through a level 11 or something
like that.
I was opening a bunch of cardsthat I could.
You know you do every few hours.
You can open the.

Bro, you don't even have anything showcased on
there.

What am I supposed to look at?
You don't have a showcase onthere and I showcased everything
I was trying to just play thegame.

I'm sorry that's part of the game, bro, but I
think I did get a new icon todaythough that you can uh it's
this week's uh meowth the fromthe original uh from the
original card.
I got that today, so that waskind of cool, yeah.

I actually did my first solo match today.

I thought I was going to.

I was not soloing .
In my first actual versus matchtoday, I think I went like
three for one or two for two orsomething like that, and it was
the first match that I actuallywon.
We were like a few cards in andI just won because the dude
just left and forfeited.
Then the second match that Iwon I don't know what the person
was trying to do.
I know what he was trying to do.
He was trying to level up hisDratini into a Dragonite, but he

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had it in his open slot and hewas just slowly playing it
terribly.
So I'm just going to keepattacking it until I can take it
out.
I'm not going to let him get a,get a dragon air or dragonite
on me or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, and he's justplaying terrible.
So, like I'm actually playingthe game, he's trying to 3d
chess it and it obviously wasn'tworking out it's interesting
how they cut the game down from,like you know, like the full

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game.

Obviously they make it more.
Uh, you get like a simplified.
Yeah, it's very streamlined,very, very streamlined I don't
know how different it is.

I guess the best way to look at this and I might
be wrong, because it's been awhile because there's an actual
app for the actual proper cardgame itself.
It's not too much differentfrom the actual card game itself
, even if you have the mobileapp for it, where you actually
play the full thing, becausewhen you open packs you the full

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thing, because when you openpacks you have the qr code you
can download to open packs andthat.
But it's it definitelystreamlines, it introduces you
to the concept of how the gameworks and I it would be a good
stepping stone to then actuallyplay in the actual card game,
whether that's in person ortheir other mobile app.
Yeah, but then actually youknow understand, like what you
need to do, because a lot ofthis time it comes down to just
you know if you, if you don'talready know, building a good
deck matters a lot, and thenit's a little bit of RNG with
you know getting your good cards, you know first, and stuff like

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that.

I'll be honest, I just kind of raw dog it with.
I don't build my decks.
I don't know if I can get intoit that deep.
Well, no, you have the cardcollecting aspect of it.

The card battling isn't as fun to me.
I like pulling the card.
Matches are pretty quick if youdon't know how to build a deck
just like hey, I want to make anelectric deck, auto build with
the.
You know the best cards and youcan go through and tweak a few
things.
So it simplifies that.
But if you're just goingthrough the solo section and
just playing the ai just to getthe awards, it's not the hardest
thing.
You get free experience.
You're getting you know awardsand stuff like that.
Yeah, you know, periodicallyyou're gonna get like a card or
something like that, or like a Iguess the their version of the

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promo card and stuff like that.

That's what I was doing a lot of, just to get
you know speaking of this, Imean since we're talking about
it, I found this prettyinteresting, so somebody
basically took it to themselvesto find out how this would work.
So apparently it would takealmost two years to complete
just the first Pokemon TCGPocket Set, unless you spend
money.

So, unless I'm missing something, how exactly
should using the money work,unless I'm missing something?

So you pay.
First of all there's the $10 amonth for premium and with the
premium you get I forget whatthe extras are the ex cards, a
couple of the ex cards you canonly get if you have premium.
So you got cards behind thepaywall, uh, and then from what
I understand uh I mean causethat adds up like that'd be $150

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a year You've got cards behindthat paywall.
So if you want a complete cardcollection, you have to get
premium.

But not just to have a set of all the Pokemon
themselves, if you don't needthe multiple versions of
different cards and stuff likethat.

They're different cards, though they're
different numbered cards.

They said if you just want a set that covers all
the Pokemon, it's 130 days.
You're just 87 with the PremiumPass.
But if you want like everyvariant of every card, it's
going to take a lot longer,obviously, just because of the
RNG and stuff like that.

Yeah, I haven't um.
What does adding layer to yourcard do?
I haven't done that yet.
I don't know, know, I just playwith the get it like I have
like a sparkle on, I think Ithought that was more outside of
the special cards.

That was more like the like the reverse
hollows, what I thought it was.

So it just adds it's just, you know you have to
like pay type of thing that youcollect to be able to do it, and
you can do it to individualcards.

So I don't know.
I know I can't remember.
Off the top of my head I'vebeen just kind of passively
playing it, so there might be athing here that I'm missing.

Yeah, yeah, same .
What do we got?

next, let me pull it up.
I was trying to do somethingelse real quick.
We got some Death Strandingnews.
Apparently, we've got that gamenow on the Xbox Series X and S.
That was reported by IGN.
No announcement, they justlaunched it over there.
Isn't that weird?
It's no longer a PlayStationexclusive.

So weird Like a stealth launch over on Xbox.
I wonder why.

Well, I mean, this game is like five years old
at this point.
It came out I don't knowexactly, or just a day over five
years ago, november 7th 2019.

It's just crazy, because they were so dedicated
to this kind of like being aPlayStation-only game.

Like that's the way they kind of put it out.
Five years this game's made allthe money it's probably gonna
make on playstation it's gonnamake any on xbox more than it
would if it wasn't yeah, that'strue, I mean I mean, to be fair,
the amount of money that theypoured in it.
They didn't care to announce it, so it's like a quick little.
You know, we're just gonna likepour it over here.

We'll make more money than if we didn't which,
speaking of which, since we'retalking about Xbox, we'll have
our little show and tell, but Ijust wanted to show this off so
for our audio listeners.
I'm sorry that you can't seethis beautiful thing, but it is
literally the most beautifulcontroller I've ever seen in my
entire life.
This thing is crazy cool andit's got textured grips on the

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back and then it has these goldaccents to it.
You'll see, like the d-pad,there's gold.
Yeah, it's see-through and youcan I mean you can see
everything.
It's so cool, I had to get it.
So, so cool.
I, I love it.
And the it has those texturedgrips on the back that really
stick on your hands, so likeyour hands get sweaty or
anything like that feels reallyreally good no, yeah, no, it

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absolutely looks, looks amazing.

Sorry, I was trying to try to do a few other
things real quick on the hubstill, aren't you?
No, I was gonna fix, uh fix, adescription that I didn't fully
fix on ah, once again, that'swhy people aren't in.

So you sick, okay, so we got.
Uh, this one is more up youralley.
I thought this was funnybecause uh, whatever, but uh,
lionsgate ceo, uh, basicallysaid that nearly everything that
could go wrong did go wrongwith the borderlands movie yeah,
and I, there's I.

I guess we can bring it up, because I lay um at
least down on a little notes.
There's another section for it,uh, about take two and their
thoughts on this as well.
It just happened to be uh kindof the same thing.
Um, everything, everything didgo wrong.
You don't know how to cast andyou don't know how to write a
script.
Like I don't know what to tellyou.
The movie looks.
It just looks bad.

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You already had an outline for amovie to follow.
Just follow the games.
You can tweak stuff here andthere to adapt it, but like you
already had an outline to follow, how do you mess it up?

It's beyond me.
It's one of those ones where,like I like Borderlands but I
have absolutely zero desire towatch this film, I but I have
absolutely zero desire to watchthis film.

I suffered to watch it when I went there and
it was a slugfest to not fallasleep or start playing on my
phone.
It's kind of what actuallyhappened.
Yeah, because it came out andthey reported.
Lionsgate reported a $163.3million loss in its quarterly
earnings, with revenues of$948.6 million down from $1.01

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billion from the same period ayear ago.
So I mean, the studio as awhole didn't lose a whole lot
from year over year, but that'sstill a lot of money.

It's a lot of money.
Yeah, it's crazy.

But in the same breath the Take-Two Interactive
CEO says oh no, the movie waswell.
They said it was disappointing.
They said A, we sold morecatalog as like yeah, sure,
maybe a little bit.
You would have sold more ifthis movie wasn't absolute
garbage.
How many people saw this moviethought it was absolute dog crap
or had zero desire to play thegames after that?

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If this movie was actually good, it would have driven far more
people to this game.

I.
If this movie was actually good, it would have driven far more
people to this game.
Uh, I just I hope this is amovie frustrating.

I hope the tiny tina movie rumors are not true
because I think that would bethe dumbest thing they could
ever do.
Oh yeah, but this is one ofthose things.
All they would either going toknock it out of the park with
adaptations, or it's somethinglike this and dragon ball
evolution it's just the worstthing you've ever seen.
It's like did you not watch orplay this?

I mean, yeah, what's going on Do you know
anything about?
Here's the thing People thatdon't know anything about a
particular series, especiallywith a diehard fan base, they
shouldn't have zero involvementwith the direction of the movie
because they don't get it.
It should be a requirement thatthese not even just not even

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just the people creating themovie I I mean for, like the
actors and actresses it shouldbe a requirement that you play
and sit down through some of thegames in a series, just so you
get the characters.
I it's like studying for thefilm, you know.
I mean, that's what it is.
It's giving respect to thecharacters that so many people

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love.

But no, they're just like oh yeah, we've totally
played the game.
I'm like, no, you haven't.

Or you wouldn't have put this crap together.
You haven't played anything.

You have no idea how the creatures work.
I can't remember the name ofthe creatures they had.
Were they the one scene wherethey're driving the bus through
their creature?
I think it was in one of thetrailers and just like that's
kind of like the games notreally, but like it's close.
It was more like a hey see,remember this thing from the
game it's here and gone in 30seconds was the creature that
sounded like this no, it waslike the war, it was.

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I can't remember the creatures,the worm, uh, worm like creature
or something like that oh, soit was more like, not even close
okay, all right, I tried butyeah, I don't know, they come
out and they can claim whateverthey want, but it's like oh no,
it sounds like PR speak to me,they're defending themselves

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yeah, without actually postinglike how much money that the
games they can prove drove backto the games that weren't
already fans of, the games thathave been out for like a decade.
At this point I'm like how muchmore money can you really make?
Yeah, I know but no, we hadsome other information about the
.
What information about thecreator of the Devil May Cry?

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Originally he apparently wantedto do a Dino Crisis anime.
I don't even know anythingabout Dino Crisis.

Well, you commented on the meme that I
posted.
It's a meme.

It doesn't mean I haven't played the game.
It's a funny meme.
It's Resident Evil withdinosaurs.

It's a meme.
It doesn't mean I haven'tplayed the game.
It's a funny meme.
It's Resident Evil withdinosaurs.
It's a survival game.

No, I'm familiar with the game, I've just never
played it.

They're really good.
I would have much rather seenthis personally, because it's
such a wacky series.
It's got no other mediums forit, so it makes sense.
Devil may cry has gotten otherstuff before.
It's had other anime before,manga and everything you can

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think of tabletop games.
Uh, dino crisis hasn't had crap, so that would have been cool
to see yeah, because he came outand said uh, uh.

When I first went to capcom in 2017, my mission
was clear I wanted to bring dinocrisis back but in an awesome
twist of fate, they sold medevil may cry instead.
I didn't think devil may crywould even be on the table.
So I mean, obviously it seemslike the uh, the creator was,
was, you know, content to workon devil may cry, but had had
aspirations of another titlethat I'm sure a lot of people

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would have loved the scene aswell yeah, it's got a die-hard
fan base for sure yeah, it wasthe uh the.
The creators, the.
The creator was a oddy uhshankar, if I didn't.
Oh okay nice nice nice no, butI guess we got some other.

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Uh, sony apparently patented aplaystation controller.
Uh, apparently in um homage tothe rewind button of, I believe,
the movie rewind I'm notmistaken click click.
Oh, okay, yeah, I don't knowwhy.
I think it rewind Click themovie I haven't seen in like 15
years.

What would they need?
A rewind button for?

That doesn't actually rewind time.
That was the whole gimmick ofthe movie.

No, I meant PlayStation.

Oh, I think it's just probably designed like that
, more as a PR stunt.
Maybe they're just trying tosell some clicks Little clickers
, you know Like a TV remote forthe PlayStation.

They already sell those.

I have one.
It's the future, Brandon.

I don't know what you're talking about right
now.

It's funny but stupid.
We'll ultimately see ifanything comes.
Yeah, it was just a patent thatthey, that they created, so,
who knows, they might just makeone.
Maybe there's another clickmovie coming out they're trying
to like oh yeah, yeah, up with,or something like that.
Maybe maybe, right, no, we alsogot some news from a Sega about

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the new Virtua fighter indevelopment.
Uh, I guess the fighting game'syour your neck of the wood yeah
, I mean this is good to see.

We haven't gotten one in a while, so kind
of surprising.
I don't know how long it's beensince 5.
So Ultimate Showdown for VirtuaFighter 5 came out in 2021, but

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I think Virtua Fighter 5 firstcame out in 2005 or 2006.

But then that whatever version came out in
2021 of it Ultimate Showdown.

Yeah, Virtua.

Fighter 5 came out in 2006.
So the PSdown, yeah.
Virtual fighter 5 came out in2006.

Yes, so like the ps3 and the xbox 360 were a
thing, yeah, and the ultimateshowdown, really all it.
All it really did was add inmore characters, more stages.
Uh, it wasn't really like a newgame.
It had some additional.
I guess story beats to it, butyou know, so you can beat the
story in an hour, yeah becausedidn't?

didn't you hear something where I don't know?
It was on twitter, or maybe aone of their heads came out,
said something where it's likeuh, sony or playstation just
doesn't have that big of alibrary.
I saw a meme and the peopletalking about oh, you mean this
library of games you've justforgotten about yeah, I mean,
that means accurate too, likethey.

Where's jack and daxter?
Where's you know ratchet andclank?
Where's you know all theseiconic characters?
Was a wrap of the wrappers?
No spires, not theirs, or crash, but they.
But they were known for beingplaystation at the time.
Yeah, um, but no, they've got,they've got a lot of properties

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that people forget about andthey just don't touch them.
Sucks, you know, I hate.
I hate seeing that you know somany properties that playstation
has.
It just hasn't gotten any love.

So yeah, I was trying to pull up so I can find
a list of games they'veforgotten about.
Um, yeah, so like a list,that's uh, somewhat of a list
was like, uh, gravity rush is,you know, not a super old one,
but you had like dark cloud,twisted metal, motor storm,
what's it?
Ridge racer siren, infamous, socalm.
Sly cooper, legacy of kane killzone, ape escape, yeah, ape

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escapes one that we Sly CooperLegacy of Kain Killzone, ape
Escape.

Yeah, ape Escape's one that we haven't
gotten one since the PSP.
That's been a while.
Yeah, it's been a while.

And I'm sure you can go back even further if you
go back to the originalPlayStation and the PlayStation
2.

Yeah, because they even had, like, we never
got another sequel to the Legendof Dragoon, which was a PS1
exclusive JRPG.
Yeah, there's a lot that wehaven't gotten you know, any new
games from in a while.

so yeah, bad bad, sony, bad boys.

What you gonna do.
What you gonna do, there's alittle more news about sony.

Uh, you know, sony's making more money off of
what they're calling a, a weakmovie showing yeah, the unique
way to title this, msn so theylost money in the movie
department, but they gainedmoney in the video in the video
game department.

So they came out positive, which is good.
Don't forget they probably madethat money off of just cutting
staff.
Probably it says the gamesector annual profit outlook
went to 35 billion yen from 320billion yen, leading to a slight

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upward revision of group annualrevenue forecast to 12.71
trillion yen, which I don't knowwhat that equates to.

but all they gave us in the article is one
dollar's equivalent to 152.8, soI'm not I'm not doing that math
right now, when you're talkingabout the trillions of yen.

No thanks it's.

It's a lot of money regardless.

Yeah, it's a lot but I mean they're still in the
positive, so losing money inthe movie department isn't
hurting them too much.
So no, but I mean I feel likeuh, tell me if I'm wrong, but
like, but PlayStation seems tobe the main branch for Sony now,
because obviously they make TVs, they still make 4K Blu-ray

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players, they still make a lotof electronics and they also
have Sony Music.
So they've got their own musicand own music.
And what else does Sony owns?
Sony owns so much stuff.

But it feels like .

PlayStation is their biggest cash revenue at
this point.

Yeah, yeah, I mean it is.
But I think then again you lookat some other movies and I'm
like, how are you not makingmoney on some of these?
Or when you did have some ofthese IPs that are now part of,
like marvel and stuff like that,like how do you butcher some,
some good ips?
But I don't know, that mightthen disney's disney's doing the
same thing.

so yeah, so, uh, looks like we got.
You can get a quackley andterpegos promo promo card free
with TCG order of $15 or more atPokemon Center with the code
QuacksleyCardsRUS orQuacksleyCardUS.

So, essentially, if you're already in the market
for Pokemon cards and you wantessentially exclusive cards with
the Pokemon Horizons logo onthem and you're going to spend
$15 which you probably alreadyare on anything more than like a
pack, hey, you check out andand get two free little cards.

I am a fan of Pokemon Horizons.
It takes me back to Gen 1Pokemon.
It feels like that all overagain.

Nah man, Gen 1's the best Gen.
I didn't say it wasn't the bestGen.

It gives me the feelings of that again, and I've
had that feeling for a longtime with the Pokemon anime.

I haven't watched the Pokemon anime in forever.
I think I've tried to like ayear or so ago, and I just
couldn't get back into it.

So you're not a real fan.

I'm no longer like the target demographic for
those games.

Who's the target demographic then, like 12 year
olds?
Then why are you trying to do aliving Dex?

The games are different from the show.
I'm sorry, there's like adifference, it's like a
disconnect, apparently.

Oh my god, I think it's for everybody, mark,
not just kids.

I mean, if you say so, I said so.

That's how I feel about it.
We got some garbage news aboutGundam.
It looks like Gundam SeedFreedom new prequel anime has
been announced.

Yeah, and then?
If you're aware, you'rewatching this or after the fact
I technically.
On the Junction Network there'sa video that just went live
about this.
It's not super in-depth becausewe don't know a whole lot about
it.
It was just kind of like a goodlittle mid little plug-in.

I want to be excited about this, but the
movie poster there's too muchgoing on with the Gundam.
They look like aliens.

It's just the Gundams.

You watch it for the Gundams.
It doesn't look like theclassic Gundam I love, though it
looks like Gundam mixed with analien All of them.
So you've never watched GundamSeed, then I have watched Gundam
Seed, but this looks different.
Well, because this is for thefreedom.
This is a prequel technically,I get that.

For those that can't see it online, it's just
one of the logos for the mostGundam Seed freedom.
But the special edition thatthey're currently airing in
Japan through the 14th ofNovember of 2024, which,
essentially, they came out andsaid, hey, they're doing a
special edition becauseapparently they were, there are
certain things they couldn't do.
There was a timetable they hadto meet and they didn't have a

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lot of time.
So I don't, I can't remember Idon't have a pull up whether or
not they were just wanted to addmore fidelity or there are
certain scenes they wanted toadd to the special edition or
like a mixture of both.
So it's like almost a year fromwhen this originally came out in
Japan, because I think themovie came out in like January
or February of this year, backin the back last winter
essentially, and it just gotlike a proper English dub and

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released in the US back in thefall.
But they were just doing this.
But at the same time that thisspecial edition for the Freedom
movie came out, they alsoannounced a movie called the
Gundam Seed Freedom Zero, whichis supposed to be a prequel to
this movie, which apparentlythey had also come out and the
only other detail that we knowis that the script for this

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movie had been completedapparently like 20 years ago,
jesus, right around the timethat that uh seed destiny was
done but if you're not familiarwith what happened, see destiny.
The second half of that show iskind of a mess.
But if you don't know why itwas kind of a mess, there was a
lot of internal problems behindthe scenes with some of the
creators and stuff like that.

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That caused a lot of problems.
That essentially caused thesecond half of Destiny to kind
of fall apart and the seriesjust come to a screeching halt.
Because Gundam Seed was likehugely popular in Japan in the
early, early 2000s when it firstcame out well, I made sure it
took 20 years to get follow-up,but apparently they did.
This other movie is like okay,we're gonna do this new movie

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and now we're gonna do a littleprequel that ideally would, I
assume, link something.
I don't know exactly what theyplan on doing with this prequel
movie that we don't kind ofalready have an idea what
happened in this two-year gap orso between Destiny and Freedom.

That's pretty cool.
I made you your own customGundam.
I sent it to you on Messenger,by the way.
Okay, I appreciate that it'scalled the Mark.

MKZ1.
No, yeah, but this news cameout on the 1st of November when
they were first doing this thing.
This is less about the GameJunction, more just to kind of
plug.
Hey, we got more content andanother video over on the
Junction Network YouTube, sodefinitely go check it out.

Hell yeah, brother, finally get more
content on that channel.
So let's go, I'm all for it butno, we also.

This came out earlier today.
Some news about Rocksteady andWarner Brothers are this is
rumored to be in remaking BatmanArkham Asylum.
You know, after their wholedebacle with Suicide Squad,
thank god they need to go backto that after their whole
debacle with Suicide Squad.

Thank God they need to go back to that.

I would be more nervous because I'm like after
that you've got the chance tobutcher this game.
Would I be afraid of it?

Well, here's why I'm not afraid of it.
The new Arkham VR game hasgotten nothing but raved reviews
.
People love it, they say itfeels exactly like an Arkham
game in VR.
They're saying it has the feelof an arkham game and so it's
made by that team, and so itkind of gives me faith that, hey
, they still know how to makethat game that we all love.

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You know, besides origin, ofcourse, yeah, which wasn't even
made by that team, but you knowso.

But I mean at this point they have to make it,
because if they don't, it'sjust going to drive more people
away.
Like why would I continue tocome back if you can't even make
this remake?
This pretty much seems likethey have to get this remake,
slash remaster, like right, yeah, they do, They'll just lose
everything.

They have to, for sure.

Yeah, I just lose everything they have to for
sure, yeah, I mean, are you, areyou excited to replay this game
?
When did that game come out?
Which one it was?
This is it talking ArkhamKnight?
Arkham Asylum?
No, arkham Asylum, my bad, whendid that game come out?

2012?

I'm guessing because you said I was was
trying to search it up as well.
No, arkham Asylum 2009.
2009.
Oh wow.

Okay, so it must have been.
Arkham Night that came out in2012 then, or it could have been
Origin, I don't know.
One of them came out in 2012.

Because that was around the time that the Dark
Knight Rises trilogy was comingout, right, don't know.
One of them came out in 2012because that was around the time
that the uh, like the darkknight rises and those that
trilogy yeah, it was coming out,right.
Yeah, like the dark, darkbatman movies were like I love
them.

I wish we would go back to, but yeah I mean,
those games were dark and grittythose games were dark too.

They were dark and gritty I think they had to
to match with the movies, andthat's why they did so well they
did very well.

Man, I really, really.
I want a meta quest 3 so I canplay that.
It's a system seller.
I want to play that game so bad.
I love batman arkham.
I really do and I really wantto play that game.
So I'm heavily consideringgetting a meta quest 3.
It's on the list I'm trying todebate because I need to get a
uh, elgato stream deck first,more important, but like I want

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to play a game, so oh, do youthink they've?

they've in both the movies and in the games.
You think they've made themistake of going towards the.
This villain is anti-hero toomuch than what it used to be,
which was kind of a clear theseare the good guys, these are the
bad guys.
There was no kind of there'svery little gray a lot of the
time I don't know.
That's a hard question toanswer for me, because I I feel
like it's good both ways but itfeels like they've gone more

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towards the, the, the villainousanti-hero, than the standard at
times.

I think the anti-hero is kind of the you
know, because I mean, it'salways been a popular thing.
Think of godzilla.
We got to bring up godzilla atleast once, plus we're going to
bring up again later anyway.
But godzilla, you know, atfirst was a menace but then
became like an anti-hero.
Right, he came to save the dayand they were calling upon

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godzilla bringing him out tofight this monster that was
destroying tokyo but that's alsoa different medium.

This used to be calm, like you're talking about
decades of comics the punisher,the punisher anti-hero for sure.
Handful of venom.
It's different when it's likeyou're just like a of the
vigilante type here, then thenthere's a villain turn, turn,
good or turn it's like I don'tknow a little bit of great man
is.

He doesn't kill.

He won't kill so it's like, which always comes
back to bite him in the ass yeah, it always does.

And like we talk about how dark and gritty this
stuff is, but like he doesn'tkill people, while superman has
killed people and he's the onethat you, you know it's it.

You know you bring that up and it reminds me
I think it was like a robotchicken skit where it's like I
was like I won't kill you, buthe like beats the villain to
death would just paralyze forlife, but I didn't kill him, I
remember that I love the actionfigure, the segments when they
did that stuff hilarious I feellike it's like at times like you
just like ruin this person'slife, they're gonna be in prison

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the rest of their life andthey're paralyzed because you
beat the crap out of themSomehow.

they always get out of Arkham as well.
I like the dark and grittinessof Batman.

I think it fits him far better than any other
setting.

I'm hearing that the show the Penguin is really
really, really good, so I wantto watch it.
I've heard nothing but greatthings.
I want to check it out for sure, cause he's like, if you think
back, he's the one to like thereal iconic villains for.
For Batman outside of, likeJoker, like you think about the
nineties animated series,penguin was so attached to that

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series.
He was one of the main villainsand the comics the Penguin was,
like you know, one of the mainvillains as well.
So I'd be like curious to seethe how they take the direction
of that series with the Penguin.

Yeah, it's interesting.
I can't get as bad or as cheesyas what the 80s and 90s gave us
.

No, it's supposed to be very serious.
It's a very serious show.

I've got one question for you, brandon the
long nose, what killed thedinosaurs?
What the Ice Surge?
I was about to say somethingreally bad terrible impression,
but that joke always cracks meup cheesy and bad and funny at
the same time.

I gotta say Batman and Robin is so bad.
It's a good movie for me, oh,100%.
I had the action figures forthat movie and everything
growing up.
I got the Happy Meal toys, isit?

the era where Arnold Schwarzenegger figures
for that movie and everythinggrowing up I got the Happy Meal
toys.
Isn't the era where ArnoldSchwarzenegger between his peak
movie and he took him in theGovernor of California where he
just did really cheesy roles?
That just did not fit me.

He took every role that he could get.
I mean, did you ever watch themovie Twins?
No, I didn't.

Or did you?

ever watch the movie Junior, where he becomes
pregnant.
He's the first man to becomepregnant he became nicholas cage
.

Before nicholas cage was a thing like he was
like every role he could give meyeah, I mean the twins is
horrible, juniors horrible.

I mean, look, you think of jingle all the way,
which I love, uh, but that'slike a non you know big bad guy
type role, you know what I mean.
So like he did comedies and hedid you know stuff like that.
So, uh, this one I don't, Idon't know anything about, so
I'm going to lean over to you,but it looks like, uh, more

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sweet baby ink.
Uh, information has came out.

Yeah, I've been more feel like we were talking
about it, but there's alwayssome news came out, but this was
outside of all the criticismthey've gotten.
It pretty much says you know,they're not going to change,
they're going to keep doing thesame thing they were doing and
stuff like that, which justmeans that any game that moves
forward and they're just comingout and saying, no, we're going
to keep doing what we're doing.
So any game that's attached tothem is going to be blasted out

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publicly and the more peoplebecome aware of it it's going to
hurt bottom lines for games.
But these studios keep hiringthese consulting studios,
knowing well that people aregoing to find out about it, and
just blast it all over theinternet to try to get games to
fail For better or for worse.
A lot of games they've workedon are bad.

I held myself from buying Dragon Age the
Veilguard because I actuallywanted to get it.
I almost bought the collector'sedition of it.
When I went to go get the PS5Pro, I almost bought the
collector's edition.
But I'm like I got to standbehind my morals on this because
the stuff they did with thatgame as good of reviews as it's
getting and my actual friendstelling me it's good, I just

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can't do it.
I'm sorry.
I've heard mixed things.
I've heard mixed things too.
I've heard some people say it'sa slow game.
It takes a long time to start,which Dragon Age always does.

But I've heard good things most of the time but
that's the problem even if Isee a review to it it's either
you recommend it or you don't,so it's either a 10 or a 0 in
the numerical and how they rateit.
I've seen a lot of peoplerecommend it, but there's like a
6 or a 7 out of 10.
I mean that's good to me.
I like to play 7s, yeah, butthey say the dialogue is bad at

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times well, so is Mario andLuigi brothership you expect
that from a game like that, butlike a game like this, it's like
oh no, the game gets better.
You just have to get, you know,20 hours in.

I'm like, I'm not putting 20 hours of a slug
to just get to the good that'sthat's the problem, right, like
I don't have that type of timewhere it's like invest 20 hours
before the game gets good, likeI just I don't care anymore.

Sk, I don't care if it's skippable, the scene
that's blasted out, where it'slike oh, I missed you.
Do you want me to do somepush-ups?
It's just the fact that thatexists in the game at all is
just absolute nonsense to me.
On morals alone, I won't buy agame because I just think it's
not necessary.
Yeah, no.

I get it.
I was grabbing one other thingfor my pickup.
So I figure we get and break upthe news real quick, show our
pickups and uh then get switchback over the news to kind of
break up the show.
Do we have any comments aheador anything that we should uh
address?

no, nothing so far over on twitch.
So okay, let me check to makesure.

Oh, I apologize, mr coffee.
And uh, ethereal sapphire lookslike we had a load of comments
that I missed and I I doapologize, I was not paying
attention.
Uh, if you want a good read,look up wizard magazine.
They have a section calledamigo theater and that was the
inspiration for Robot Chicken.
I still have a ton of WizardMagazine issues.

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I think Dino had an identityproblem.
They wanted it to be differentfrom Resident Evil.
That's why every Dreamcast gamethat came out kept changing its
gameplay more and more.
Yeah, I kind of agree with that.
Ethereal said I would be happyif Jack came back, but it's
changed this idea of the antihero.

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If you want, I might be miss.

I think we had a bunch of conversations, so uh,
yeah, well, we're talking about,uh, batman and stuff like that
yeah, it looks like um.

the movie that hurt his career was last action
hero.
Yeah, horrible, horribleSchwarzenegger movie.
So bad, so bad.
It's not good at all.
Hey, what's up?
Junction Network How's it going?
So, all right, we're going tobreak up our.

I was doing a quick little shout-out in the
YouTube chat but I forgot I wasstill logged in from yeah you
should be logged in what's goingon?

I should be logged in on mine too but, uh go
ahead and show us what you gotfirst there, mark and I'll get
this.

It's only really the one thing that I picked up
this week.
Actually, technically, I wassupposed to have the ethernet
adapter for the switch, but itgot delayed.
So next time we're actuallyplaying switch games online, I
will stop disconnecting ugh whenwe're playing Mario Party or
something like that.
But it was two things, and Ialso streamed this yesterday on
Twitch and then I'll probably atleast one or two more times.

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I don't know if I'm going tocomplete it on stream, but I'll
play it a few more times at thevery least.
The Mario and Luigi Brothership, which I don't think is a
terribly bad game, at leastearly on, I think the dialogue,
at least for on stream that Iwas doing it.
It's a little long, like if Iwasn't playing it on stream, a
hundred percent would just skipthe dialogue, cause I don't
think it's super important.
Well see, I would.

I would say don't skip the dialogue and a
Mario and Luigi games, becausethey actually have a full
ongoing story that actuallymatters.

It felt bad at times.
Plus, I started to learn earlyon Don't just talk to everybody
you meet, cause it's just it'skind of pointless.
They have stuff to say but itdoesn't really add a whole lot
unless you're super into theworld building.
But that's like a personalopinion, I know I was going to
say also I didn't pre-order itbut my GameStop also gave me
essentially the pre-orderkeychains.

I also didn't pre-order it, they gave me it.
So, yeah, I picked it up aswell and while mark was
streaming, I played a little bitof it.
He got way further than I did.
Um, I didn't get far into it atall, but I could speak on
already, the dialogue just beingtoo heavy.
If they just just dialed itdown a notch on the amount of

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dialogue, I think it would havemade the game go up.
Another star for me, anotherrating, but but for me, as far
as I've gotten in the game, I'mgiving it a solid 8.
It's not an amazing game, butit's a good game.
It's a fun good RPG.

Yeah, I'd say like a 7.5 to an 8 is what I
would give it.
It's a good RPG.

I mean all the Mario and Luigi games.
There's none of them I dislike.
I will say this is so far myleast favorite in the series.
There's a lot of them, but Istill think it's great.
I mean, it doesn't mean it'sbad.
Just because I say something'smy least favorite doesn't mean I
dislike it because I don't andI want to, I want to see this
game all the way through.
I'm uh, I'm pretty excitedabout and I think that uh,

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connie's a pretty cool, neat newcharacter in the series.
Uh, weird, with the like sparkplugs coming out of her hat.
Like it's interesting how thewhole whole thing electricity
thing they went.
Yeah, names and stuff thenthere's also snoutlet, which is
like a pig um and he said he'snot a pig.
Don't call him a pig.
Yeah, it's like a pig birdhybrid.

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Um, one thing I didn't likeabout this one, though that the
other mario and luigi's didn'tdo as much.
Hey, what's up?
We got a bunch of peopledropping in now.
Um, luigi just seems like hejust follows mario and is kind
of useless, because in the othergames, what's so cool about
some of the other mario andluigi games is that they

(42:10):
actually they don't staytogether the whole time.
So, like part of the story,you'll start you'll play as
Mario, and then it switches overto the scene with Luigi and
then like switches back, andthen you'll end up meeting back
again with each other and thenlike partners in time deals with
baby Mario and baby Luigi aswell as Luigi and Mario.

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So you have to, like you playas all four characters.
And then Bowser's Inside Storyis a whole unique thing too,
where you're literally insideBowser.
You get separated again, sothere might be more that happens
that we don't know yet.
Apparently, this is a 15-hourgame, so you're getting a pretty
good chunk of change for an RPGof this caliber.

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So definitely happy and excitedabout that.
Uh, do you have anything elseto show before I go through mine
?

no, that was I.
Like I said, it was theethernet adapter that I kind of
ordered.
That's not really something toshow off, but it was just kind
of delayed you mean that's acool collection piece.

I'm going to get one well, I'm actually.

It's not collected, I'm actually going to
use it, so I know I'm not, butyou know.

So I also got one, one I'm probably the most
excited about, but haven'topened yet because I'm already
playing other rpgs.
I just cannot add in a fifthrpg I'm playing at once.
I just can't do it with a gamelike this, where I really want
to have my attention and focuson it.
I love the Ys games.

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They are among my favorite RPGsever in my top three easily.
So Ys X Nordics was an instantsell for me.
I can't wait.
So I've already played the game.
I'm already four hours in.
Here's the problem, though thisgot sent out to me by NIS
America.
I didn't buy this.
That's why it's not open yet.

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I played the demo, which is sixhours long on the Switch, so I
made it the four hours in, and Iwould have to restart to
actually play the full game on adifferent system.
So, yeah, that's actuallypretty dope.
No, it's not dope, kind ofsucks.
I put all that time into theSwitch because I thought, when I

(44:14):
was going to buy it, I wouldget the switch version.
But I, before I could even buyit, this came in the mail and
I'm like, oh, that's awesome,but now I gotta start over again
.
So, yeah, I also picked up agame I have been eyeballing
since the day it released andI've been waiting to find it for
a good price.
I I love the series, so I'mreally excited about it.
That would be Naruto, baruto,ultimate Ninja Storms

(44:38):
Connections.
So I've been waiting to find agood price on this.
It was a $60 game for a longtime.
I wanted to get it since itcame out.
One of the cool things that wassold me on this is there's over
130 ninjas available in thegame, which is crazy.
So you've got all of the naruto, you got all of baruto.
So it's kind of like it kind ofreminds me of dragon ball

(45:01):
sparking zero, where you've gotcharacters from dragon ball z,
gt, super and daima all all inone.
So this is the same deal you'regetting, you know, from both
series.
You're getting naruto shippingin and you're getting baruto
characters.
So I'm really excited to checkthis out, and this is one I'm.
I specifically bought this forme and mark to stream, so I'm

(45:23):
hoping he could try to find itmaybe at the same price or
something.
At game stop it was 27.99 andthen I actually had a five
dollar coupon, so I ended uppaying basically like $20 for it
, which is a really good deal,if you ask me.
I've been waiting to find itfor a good deal, so this is a
rainy day stream game, sohopefully we get to stream that
soon.
Another game I've beeneyeballing for a long time is

(45:44):
the Samurai Shodown Remake.
It's finally got marked down to$15, so I went and grabbed it.
I've been waiting.
It's been sitting at like $40for months and months and months
.
It's an SNK title Neo Geo.
I love SNK.
None of their fighters ever letme down.
I just truly love their game.

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So I'm really excited to diveinto this.
I'm interested to see how aSamurai Shodown remake is.
So for our audio listeners,head on over to the video to
check out and actually get tosee what I'm showing off here.
Need to clean up that box.
Yeah, that was me trying topeel the sticker off earlier and
it didn't come off.

I'm one of those people that I stop it and I'm
like I'll deal with this later.

What I do?
I just take Goo Gone to it andit comes right off.
What I do?
I just take Goo Gone to it andit comes right off.

But until that happens I don't keep any of that
at home.
I just I'd rather have theprice tag on there than just be
like a ripped sticker stuff.
But at least my GameStop'spretty good, at least when they
put it on there, because theypre-fold on the tabs so it's
easy to kind of start thepeeling process Not damaging the
actual plastic too much.

And the big boy for this week.

We got someone that's bougie right here.

Got the PS5 Pro.
What I'm not showing off is theseparate stand I had to buy and
the separate disc drive I hadto buy.
So you're $700 deep on justthis and you gotta buy the disc
drive for $80 and the stand forlike $30.
Unfortunately, I can't show youthe system.
I'm not even going to dare moveit.
I'm scared to do anything withit, like I just.

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I just I don't know, I don'twant nothing to happen to it.
Uh, I have not gotten to spenda ton of time with it yet.
I threw in two games that wereps5 pro enhanced and they looked
freaking, phenomenal.
And then I went and threw in aPS4 game because with the PSSR,
something they didn't reallyadvertise.
I don't know why they didn'treally put this out there they

(47:42):
should have.
But PSSR will take your PS4games and essentially not just
upscale them but make them lookbetter, almost like a different
game.
So I threw in what was it I hadout earlier.
Uh, oh, doom.
I put doom in and it waschecking it out and I was like,

(48:02):
oh my god, like runs, really,really well, it looks good.
Visually.
You can see where, like there's, the pssr is kicking in.
I was like holy crap like this.
You have to see it in person.
You can that.
You just can't see it over avideo.
You can't.
What is it, is it?

worth the 800 upgrade if you already have one
if you already have one.

No um no, I would say that point it's not.
It's not 800, it's 700.
I'm just saying, if you wantthe disc drive, it's over 800.
If you want the disc drive, uhand then, and then you got tax
and uh, all of that, would I sayfor the diehard that already
has one, yes, I would say yes,uh.

(48:47):
But what this is really, I feel, targeted for, are the
enthusiasts that have the veryhigh-end tvs, like the lg c4, uh
, oled tv or uh, who alreadyhave an 8k tv, um, and you know,
actually can you take advantageof this.
Or you've got a monitor that's360 hertz and you know, really

(49:09):
takes advantage of this, um Istill think you're better off
just getting a PC at that point.
if you want high-end gaming,Well I don't know if I agree
with that entirely, because youwant high-end.

I mean, just for my Intel i9 14th Gen it was $500
, mark, that's just for the CPU,but you get better performance
across the board with a $1,500.

PC, but by the time you go and buy, it would be
comparable with this.

You can do more with a PC than just play games.
You have the ability to mod anddo other things and stuff.
They're not stuck with just abox, no.

I get it, I'm not.
I like PC.
I plan on upgrading my graphicscard from a 4070 to probably a
40 90.
Uh, I like pc, but I think thatit just it costs too much to
get the entry point for pc is soexpensive man but at this point
with a $700 price tag it's notmuch right?

(50:05):
this would equate to basicallylike a 40 80.
So price out you.
You can look it up if you want.
Price out a 4080 right now andthen count in the $500 CPU.
You know, i9 14th gen justthere.

If that's the equivalent of a 4080 and they're
selling it for $700, they'relosing a lot of money.
It's around that point becauseof PSSR and but DLSSR is the
same thing that already existsdefault on like every modern
graphics card.

It wouldn't be a 4070, I can tell you that this
looks better than my 4070 on thePC.
It just does.

You're probably bottlenecked somewhere else when
you go to the PC.

I can't wait to see where I've got the best.
Cpu you can have.

If it's better, then they're losing a lot of
money on that.
Then they have to be.
There's no way they haveequivalent hardware and it's
like half the price of a PC.

I love that a lot of people are coming in as
we're arguing.
No, I'm not arguing against PC.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that
If you can afford to get intoit, just go that route.
It's not going to be the same,especially if you get to the.

This is not for most people To properly display
it.
This is not for most people.

No, I'm just saying if you added the cost of
a proper OLED 4K TV that needsto display it, you know that's
just as expensive, if not morethan the equivalent of a monitor
.
That's obviously significantlysmaller.

Well, I'm pricing out monitors right now,
and actually the monitors I'mcoming across are more expensive
if I want to have all thecapabilities that this system
can take advantage of.

Um, so I was looking at tv itself is cheaper,
which you could in theory stilluse with the pc you can get a
4k, not the 120 tv for 300 bucks.

I've got one.

That's what I have, it doesn't doesn't usually
work the same way as atraditional monitor when it
comes to like gaming usuallydoesn't, unless you go like the
c4 route.

You know the lg c4 where you're going, the real
high end tv.
It then it does.
It's got the variable refreshrate, the auto low latency mode,
but it's also like hdmi 2.1it's like a 40 to 50 inch screen
tv.

You don't really get a much smaller than that,
which is too large for anypractical gaming application.
When it comes to a PC, with howclose you're going to end up
being to the screen, Mr Coffeesaid that that game is rare.

I didn't know it was rare.
I had been eyeballing it for along time and it was like $40,
and I was just like I don't wantto spend $40 on it.
But they had it for $15, and Igrabbed it and they added
rollback netcode.

That's really cool, yeah, but he also said
like a mid-range $1,100 to$1,500 PC just the Tower of the
Dead.
You're going to have equivalentstuff with that If you know how
to properly set up all your.
You need to make sure yoursettings there's a lot of
settings and stuff you can dothat add more load that don't
really do a whole lot forcertain games.
So you have to get there's alot of settings you have to go

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through and properly optimize itand there's obviously a lot of
stuff that that will optimize itbased off your hardware.
And he also mentioned like oh,you have to, you know,
constantly upgrade it.
But I mean like, at the veryleast you're on if, if you have
the money, every like two, three, four years you can keep your
pc up to date.
That console is going to veryquickly, you know, go away, but
you know you're going to buy itevery what?

(53:13):
Four to six years.

That's the life of a console, though, right,
this is going to be good forfour years and around the PS6.

It's so far beyond where you bought that.
So maybe a launch it'sequivalent, but in two years
it's already left in the dust,and that's why we get a new
iteration.

That's the reason.
But it takes longer for thehardware, stuff like that and it
ages so fast.
Mark, I think you're missing apoint.
The point of a console is aplug and play, that's it.
You don't have to mess withbuilding anything.

Always gonna fight back and it's not just
because the whole pc masterystuff, even though it's a funny
joke, but like it's for thatprice tag, you're just never
gonna have the same equivalentlike you know, I equivalent
experience.

I still play my handheld games, I still play
retro games.
I don't care about having, itdoesn't matter to me about
having the highest specced outPC or whatever, having the
equivalent to what the PS5 Prois at a I'm not even going to
say $1,500 price point, I'mgoing to say an $1, I want to

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say like an 1800 price point youmight as well go to the two
thousand dollars at that pointyou might as well, which is the
problem.
That's the problem right there.
Like a two to twenty fivehundred dollars, you get a
fairly high in this economy thatwe're in right now.
And who has two thousand?
I mean and here's what I'll say, by the way, one of the sixth
or seventh job.
At that point, let me.

(54:34):
Let me tell you this too,because I definitely don't want
people to think I have money oranything like that I traded in
my PS5 and I got almost $400 outof it.
So I traded that in plustrading in some games used
credit I already had there.
So so all in all, I only spentlike $230 on it Pretty good.

That point's not terrible.
But to be fair, your PS5 needsto be in decent condition, and
the more time goes on, thequicker that trading value is
going to start dropping.

Well, I had to get on it.
I mean I was in there day oneand it was almost $400.
It was like $378 or something.
To me it's fair.
I mean day one and it was itwas almost 400, it was like 378
or something.
Uh, and what to me is fair?
I mean I've had it since launchand uh, I, I'm, I'm happy with
it, I'm super happy with it.

So but here's the real question will the ps5 or
the ps6 pro break a thousanddollars?

uh, I think it will be at a price point of um
9.99 I mean in another 10 years,when we get it probably I just
think, with the rising cost ofhardware, where we're at with
hardware and where we're at with, like pc building, a thousand

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dollar entry, if you have.
I mean, obviously we don't haveany idea with specs right now,
but let's just say it'sequivalent.
A ps6 is equivalent becausewe're going to already be
outdated pc wise.
We're already going to belooking at the 5000 series,
right?
We already know that that's inthe works, that's happening.
It should be announced bydecember, um, but my guess is

(56:11):
that the ps6 will be equivalentto like a 4090, but at that
point it's going to be quiteoutdated, when you know,
considering pc.
But we're at the point ofdiminishing returns, and that's
the problem, right?
If?
Well, that's where.

That's where ai starts to, that's where dls s,
pssr, all that stuff isimportant.

That is the only reason.
That is the reason that Iwanted it.
I will say this to a degree, Ibelieve it is an absolute game
changer, and the fact that I canthrow in a PS4 game and it
looks and runs better than itdid on the PS5, the PS4 Pro or

(56:52):
the ps4 is absolutely insane tome, because it's not even
advertised.
That's not even reallyadvertised at all.

but that's no but it's like that's what I would
expect it to perform better, tosome degree, at the very least
for a ps4, but I'm just gonnasay the fact that I disagree
with the admission returns,because the ability, the, the,
maybe the graphical fidelity isjust hitting the hard limit with
the amount of generation.
Returns, because maybe thegraphical fidelity is just
hitting the hard limit with theamount of pixels that you can
just you'll perceive through thehuman eye on screen and stuff
like that.
I mean we can't see how they canthe amount of processing power

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that we're getting is leaps andbounds higher, especially with
the CPUs.
The amount of cores andprocessing power they have is
always drastically movingforward and getting higher.
But if you've seen, with a lotof their new ones, what's it the
13th and 14th gen that came outlast year is that they're more
intricate, but that meansthey're more prone to have
problems and break far easierthan it may seem.

(57:44):
Well, don't say that, becausethat's what I have 10 years ago.
No, I had that problem when Ifirst bought it.

You, don't have an i9 14th gen, though, do you?

I believe mine is a 14th gen, or is it the i9?

Mine.
I believe it should be the i9.
You have an i7 from what yousent me.

No, I've got an i7, but that doesn't mean it's
i7 and i9 have 13th and 14th gen.
No, I know that.

It's just different levels of things.
But what you sent me was youhad an i7, so like it's a great,
a great cpu, and I mean Iwouldn't say like 47.
A 4070 is really only good for1440p gaming.
It's not meant for like 4kgaming, and the ps6 is designed
from the ground up for 4k gamingas well but it also binds.

Yeah, because the the i7 147k that I have is a
14th gen processor so that'swhere my comparison of it being
closer to a 4080 is.

Is that the fact that my 4070 is not meant for
4k gaming?
It's meant for 1440p and 1080pgaming.
The ps6, or ps6, the ps5 pro,is designed for 4k gaming at 120
frames per second, same timewith a very low refresh rate and

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auto latency, which I cannot do.
And I've got the best cpu.
I've got a good gpu.
I mean 4070 isn't bad but no,but I like to be fair the
enthusiasts that probablyalready have equivalent pcs.

How many people, honest to god, actually have 4k
proper?

4k, 4k.
I'm using 4k monitor.
I mean I, I want a 4k.

I mean because we still do now every time same
does their, uh, their hardwarestuff matters.
I just did one a little whileago.
Most people, even on PC gaming,are still, you know, most of
their just 1440p is a greatoption are still 1080p.
That's what most people game at1440p is a great option.

I think it's awesome.
But I'm not like a graphicswhore.
It doesn't have to do with that.
But the resolution of 4K for me?
I have bad eyesight.
It just looks better for me inperson.
I've got a 4K TV and I cancompare it to my 1440p monitor,
my 1080p monitor and see thedifference.
I've had them all hooked upwith the same game and it's shot

(01:00:09):
.
I see shockingly better withthe 4k, like I just do with my
eyesight.
Um, but we're getting to thepoint of once you get the 8k, we
can't see what the human eyepast 8k.

Mark Trobough (01:00:23):
Right, no, but you can see the, the, the
resolution.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:27):
You can really only see the 8k difference from
4k If you're looking at a 50inch or bigger TVK.
If you're looking at a 50-inchor bigger TV.

If you're playing on a monitor.

It's useless.
It's useless.

There's no reason to play on an 8K monitor.
You can only fit so many pixelson the screen.
There's just a hard limit.
That's why these highresolutions require larger
screens, because you just needthe more pixels on screen.

Mr Coffee said.
I think it's the cost, but theprice tag of PS4 Pro.
It just means we might seefuture consoles going for $2,000
or $1,500.
People do have that moneybecause people are buying
iPhones at $999 or more everyyear.

Those are also on payment plans.
I just want to put it out there.
When you buy a phone plan likea Verizon, you're paying them
for like two years.

Mine was $1,300 because I went with the one
terabyte model.
But yeah, payment plan.
I do a lot of video and photosso I had to go with the one
terabyte.
Ethereal Sapphire said the PS6Pro is 1K.
Nobody is buying that.
You'd be surprised.

You'd be surprised though you have to
take into account inflation andover like what?
Since 2020?
It's like a, an average, like a20, like a, like a 20, 25
increase in just the cost ofeverything and with inflation,
like, once prices go up theyhardly ever come back down.

Like inflation is usually a fairly permanent
thing the rumored prices for the5000 series, from what I
remember seeing, were absolutelyludicrous.

I mean the 4090 is already they're, they're
gonna drop crazy expensive.

I mean you're looking at 1500 for just a
graphics card and yes, they will.
They will drop down.
I don't remember.
Rumored price is a lot of thespecs of those.
No, not much, Not much.

So we don't know exactly what they're trying to
put into that.

Yeah, we've gotten little tidbits, but it
will be announced by December,so we will know and probably be
released by March of next year.

Yeah, and I'll say this like kind of like with
the games, like if you want toupgrade immediately and you want
to do trade-ins, youessentially have to commit to
upgrading out the gate.
Well, say you're 40, 60, 40, 70, 40, 90 Still holds a
significant portion of its valuebefore it drops below the point
where you just write it.
It's not worth like selling itor you're just getting like a
chunk back.
Most people that want to tradein Greg are gonna start

(01:02:47):
necessarily use GPU every year,so we can get like 60 to 80
percent of their cost if theybought on it back.

Can you trade in a graphics card towards another
one?
Can you trade in a graphicscard?

towards another one.
It depends on the site.
But if you want the most moneykind of like trading in games
you sell it yourself second handat a price.
You go online, you post ityourself.

The problem is you gotta have the other one in
hand before you're doing that,obviously so it's a mixture of
both.

Some people will do the same things once they
kind of guarantee it's sell tobuy the other one.
You might be down a week or sowaiting on it, but essentially,
regardless of how it plays out,you're you're saving a
significant portion.
So they say the next one's like1500 but you have like a 4090
and you got like five, sixhundred dollars back.

Well, that you know, you better get one of
those are $1,500 graphics cards.

I don't know, I don't know the exact, you know,
4090 second hand market yeah, Idon't.

Well, I mean I do because I was, you know,
window shopping them.
But I will say this if you arewanting to get a PS5 Pro trade
and you want to trade, and do itnow because you know when
they're shopping them.
But I will say this if you arewanting to get a ps5 pro trade
and you want to trade, and do itnow, because gamestop is going
to lower that trade-in valuereal soon because they're going
to have too much stock of it'sit's regular supply and demand
like and eventually, because thepiece continues that was a good

(01:04:09):
deal.
I'm not a gamestop trading guyat all, but to me that was a
good deal towards it almost 400.
A GameStop trading guy at all,but to me that was a good deal
towards it.
Almost 400 bucks, I mean no butlike you also have.

The other thing is this is a new thing that most
people coming in will be.
You know at that point this isthe better thing, but also the
PS five is starting to age of it.
You can already see the agingwhich is one of the reasons that
the ps5 pro, I think, doesmatter, and yeah the no.
But also in another two yearswhen the ps6.

(01:04:36):
That's going to cause the priceto drop again because everyone
wants the new thing.
Who wants an out-of-dateconsole at that point?

yeah, yeah, my guess is that we're looking at
four years.
So I think we're looking atfour years of this and obviously
we had four years, you know bea total of eight years for the
ps5, because, yeah, that lifecycles are usually six to eight
years.
And, uh, just guessing on howthey did the ps4 pro, it's
probably, we're probably lookingat four, four years of this

(01:05:02):
being the standard.
They're obviously going to bepushing this model more than any
other.
They're going to push it, it'snot going to sell the way that a
PS5 does.

I'll make a guess , the PS5 Pro won't make up more
than 10% to 15% of the totalPS5 inventory that the consumer
hands.
My guess is 12%.
I think it's in that range.
I just don't think most peoplearen't going to care enough or
it's just not worth it for mostpeople.

Most people that want a PS5, they already have
one.
I'm a gaming enthusiast.
This is what I love.
I love upgrading stuff.
I love checking out the newhardware.
I'm an enthusiast.
I'm a gamer, I'm a collector.
I love this stuff.
This is what I live and breathe.
It makes me happy.

I guess I'll say this just because Mr Coffee
talked about picking a PS4 Profor $40 for three games.
The best time to buy consolesis just to collect is right
within the few years that it'slike the last gen, where nobody
wants it.
Before it becomes retro, it'sout of stock, people start
looking for it again.
So this is.
It looks like the time this isto get a bunch.

(01:06:06):
Well, I would say, get PS4s,but it's backwards compatible.
But like I don't buy a handfulof ps4s and then maybe
eventually people want to buythem again down the road I can
make a suggestion, though it'snot a cheap um suggestion, but
it's.

It's an idea for people that might be listening
to the podcast or are watchinglive.
I've got a ps3 hooked up rightnext to me.
It is the backwards compatibleoriginal launch model, so it
plays PS3, ps2, and PS1 natively.
It has a PS2 built inside of it, so it plays it natively.
And then I've got the PS5 Prohere to play PS4 and PS5 games,

(01:06:45):
so I can play all thePlayStation games right next to
each other here, ready to hookup at all times to my HD, hd 60x
if I want to stream or whatever.
Um, so that is myrecommendation, because if you
want to play them nativelywithout having to have six or
five consoles hooked up, that isthe way to do it.
Um for sure, it took me, I willsay this it took me about five

(01:07:09):
or six years to find a launchmodel ps3.
To be able to do that, though,because, uh, you, if you find,
if you find the other ps3s, allthey play are ps1 and ps3 games.
They don't play ps2.
This has a ps2 built inside ofit.
There's an entire ps2 inside ofit, so that that's the biggest
library and one of my favoritelibraries ever.

(01:07:30):
Uh, ps2 library is absolutelyinsane, so that that was my.
That that's how.
That's how I do it, that's howI play.

You know one of the playstations here's a good
idea for like a homebrew project.
Uh, wholesale unrealistic forfor an open market, but
something like if you had themeans to like make your dream
gaming room or something likethat.
Essentially you just have agiant wall where essentially
it's a giant computer built in,so you like have like here's
where I can plug in my ps1 games, here's my ps2 drive natively,

(01:08:00):
where you just take the hardwareand just like wire it into like
a giant box on the wall builtwith a built-in tv and stuff
like that for all your systems.
So essentially, cannibalizelike a all the hardware for
every system but you put ittogether in one giant gaming
console, if that makes any sense.

Uh make it like the ultimate entertainment
systems.

Read out like movies and books on the side and
you have your tv in the middle.
Same concept, just a tv, butit's all like built in together,
if that makes any sense soexplain that again no think like
a homemade entertainment likethey used to have, where you
could put like movies and stuffon the side.
You put like your game or DVDplayer down below, oh yeah, in
the middle, but instead you justhave like a TV built into the

(01:08:44):
essentially a giant, what lookslike a computer, oh yeah, like
areas where you plug in likehere's where my PS1 games go,
here's my Xbox games go, andstuff like that.
It's like a like a homebrewall-in-one project or something
like that, which, yeah, it'd bekind of neat for sure, like you
could pop off kind of likeservice.
You could pop off the drawers inthe back and go through
maintenance everything and stufflike that.

(01:09:04):
Yeah, you said that that ideakind of came to mind.
Wholesale super expensive, yougotta get to know what you're
doing, and stuff like that, butthat would be like a really Cool
thing to do yeah, that would beCool.

Um, I gotta ask you because you never told me
and I hope you did, becausethey're sold out and You'd have
to pay a thousand dollars Onebay at this point now, if you
didn't do it.
But did you pre-order an analog3d?
No, I didn't, oh man.

They're out of stock now.
But there's other stuff isn'tstock.
Who it's out of stock?
I wouldn't buy it now, waitingto see they good chance they end
up bringing it back theyusually restock the consoles one
time but they sell out inseconds.
I mean they well, at that point, why not just keep making more
of them?

because they're a boutique company and that's
what they do.
It's like limited run games.
They make a limited amount ofconsoles.
That kind of makes me sad foryou because of all the consoles
I think of when.

I think of you, I think of the 64.
I just don't have the money forit right now.

No, I get it.
I get it, hopefully.

the opportunity comes, I'm getting ripped off on
the new open market.
I'm just not doing that?

No, no, not I'm not telling you to do that, I'm
just saying and there's alreadyif you look on ebay, look it up
real quick on ebay, see whatthey're going for right now.

I'm curious they haven't shipped out yet.
People just pricing stuffonline.

I but they always do it.
It doesn't matter if theyshipped out.
They secured a copy, so at thatpoint that's all that matters.
It'll get shipped to them.
Then they'll ship to the, thebuyer.
So I I'd be curious, because itlooks like it's going to be
coming out early next year, soI'm guessing by March they
should be shipping.
I am extremely excited.

(01:10:42):
The reason I brought it up isbecause the controllers went up
for preorder today on Amazon thenew 8Bbit DOH controllers that
they made specifically for this.
You can buy those.
Those are available on Amazonright now.
Oh yes, all those.

I'm like if they ever come back, I don't know why
they would keep it.
Why list a bunch of stuff onceit's sold out forever, like
their Mega, s, g, super NT andother stuff like that?

They'll never bring them back.
I wish they would, because Imissed out.

Why not just leave it sold out on your page?

I don't know.
I wish they would bring backevery one of those, because I
would buy one of all of them andthat would be my way to play
those retro games.
It makes the most sense.
It's brand new hardware thatwill last the rest of my
lifetime.
But I was wrong.
It looks like I mean they wrong.

(01:11:33):
It looks like I mean they'renot nearly as bad as I thought
that it would be.
I see 395 by it now, 415 by itnow, 439 by it now.
Uh, for the black.
Um, apparently the white soldout first and the black was
available for the rest of thatday.
Um, I wanted the black anyway.
But now I kind of wish that Iwould have went with the white,
because I didn't know it wasgoing to be the more popular

(01:11:54):
model.
My thing with the white is dustcollecting and I don't know
either, but it sold outimmediately.
The white did, and the blackstayed on there for a little bit
.
Yeah, so it looks like it's notas bad as I thought it was
going to be.
I'm curious.

I'm not paying $400 for it.
I wouldn't pay that much for it.

No, I wouldn't either.

I don't blame you , don't blame me at all, but I
guess we can move on to someother things.
Yeah, Sorry, I have a littlestuffy in my nose for some
reason.
We got some news thatapparently Hogwarts Legacy is
getting a sequel and it'scurrently being developed right
now.
Apparently there's a HogwartsLegacy is getting a sequel and
it's currently being developedright now.
Over at I don't remember if itwas Warner Bros Games or
somebody else Warner BrosInteractive came out and said

(01:12:42):
that there is a sequel in theworks for this game.
I never got that far into it.
It was an okay game.
I just didn't care.

I'm not a big character games fan, I'm going
to pick it up because it's a PS5Pro enhanced game, so I want to
check it out now.

Yeah, I don't even know if I got this physical
.
I mean, I think I may have gotthis game digital.

I can't remember yeah see, I can't do that stuff
, I just can't do it.
It's not worth it.

Yeah, we don't know a whole lot about it, at
least from what I've seen, otherthan the fact that another
game's in the works.
It was a pretty successful gamewhen it came out.
It got drafted on the awards,but financially it did pretty
well.

People seemed to love it.
It got a lot of awards.

No, it didn't.

It got snubbed, didn't it?

yeah, not related to the actual game itself,
which is crap, but I mean,that's games media for you.

I tell you what it's like a slam dunk from
Michael Jordan 100%.

Still, blood is going to get the same treatment.
It's going to get shafted atthe awards.
That's my game of the year.
What are you looking at me likethat for?
Oh, you can't hear it, can you?
No, I can't.
I just see you looking at melike trying to stay in my soul.

I'm just being an idiot.
So it looks like what do we gotnext here?

yeah.
So this is just something alittle funny.
If you haven't seen it, thisone specifically was posted by
Anime Corner on Twitter, butbecause of yesterday was the 7th
, which was the I think it wasthe same year 2024, something
like that.
It might not have been the sameyear, but it was the date that
the if you've watched anime sortout online that the game, the

(01:14:26):
death game, since it came to anend.
What's?

that Big fan of season one.

It is what it is, but there's somebody some I
don't know if it's like a personlike youtuber somebody made
like a short little 15 minutelike news clip that the game
kind of ended just because itwas like the anniversary, little
little broadcast type thing.
I can't remember if it was the,it might have been the exact
year, I can't remember.

Now I'm curious yeah, I can't remember either,
yeah.

I've got to Google this quiet there for a
second players became trapped inthe game of 2022, so I think
2024 was the actual year inuniverse that they got out of it
oh interesting.

I found it interesting that Kiriko finally
made it through yeah, right,this is killing me.

The light novel published from 2002 to 2008.
It was an older light novelseries.
I didn't know that At the time.
It would have been like, yeah,in the future.
I was trying to followsomething.
I was trying to followsomething.

(01:15:43):
So, no, yeah, it was 2024in-universe that it actually
ended, so it was the actual daythat the game actually ended.
That's why they made that.
I just needed to double-checkFor those that actually care
about that.
I thought it was somethingfunny, stu, but I thought I'd
bring it up and obviously thelast little thing before we get
to some of the main topics wasfunny enough up, and obviously
the last little thing before weget to some of the some of the
main topics was, uh, funnyenough.

(01:16:04):
This was posted by bounding inthe comics and, if you don't
know, they definitely have ahave a reputation for being one
of the worst what like the worstof games media when you think
of them.
But there was a article or notan article, but a research done
by at uh ohio state universitywith about 400 some
undergradsads were, essentiallybecause this article is poorly

(01:16:26):
written as far as like givingyou the actual numbers and
statistics that a study actuallydoes, and it was terribly,
terribly worded for that.
But you know, women actuallylove playing is what they call
highly sexualized charactersOver, you know, characters that
actually look like maybe them inreality, the fact that they
published this at all, whichgoes against.

(01:16:47):
You know very obviously whatthese games journals believe in
because they come out.
I mean, let me pull up thearticle.
I mean the first entrance, thefirst little sentence alone just
says everything you know aboutthis, about how they wrote this
article.
For years, the more terminallyonline among the mainstream
Western video game industry,from developers to journalists

(01:17:08):
to even players, have loudlyproclaimed that not only are
sexualized female characterssomehow harmful to society, but
that actually real-world womenalso find designs outright
appalling, wholesale, not evenrelevant to.
It's somewhat relevant, but notnecessary.
When you talk about an articleyeah, it's a little interesting

(01:17:32):
way to put it.

Oh, by the way, we ran a poll on here.
It looks like 60% of people dowant a PS5 Pro.

Of how many people.

I'm gonna have to check here.

Oh, it's five people, five people.
So I mean that's good, that'sit.
You might as well write a studyabout that.
That's big enough to say right.

Hard Drive Gamer said Hi, mark.
And then also said Ew.
Ethereal Sapphire said I stillhaven't played hogwarts legacy.
I need to get around to it.
Yeah, me too.
And then brandon told mark tobe quiet so silence chat silent
chat.
All right, what do we got next,mark?

like uh, yeah, more or less we can just go
straight into our uh, our maintopic.
I don't know.
You just talked about the PS5Pro.
Do you want to go a little bitmore into that or just go to the
next thing?

Yeah, I mean I guess I just wanted to go over
everything that's differentabout it and basically go from
there.
Okay, so this doesn't reallymatter.
But IGN scored it an 8, whichis whatever.
Fine, um, let me see, hold on,double check something here.
Um, okay, so it looks liketrying to find all the actual

(01:18:54):
specs to give some technicaldeep go, okay.
So, uh, first off, it has has a2-terabyte SSD already built
into it, which is a big upgrade,obviously from the 1-terabyte.
It's twice as large but thesame speed as the original
super-fast storage.
And then I transferred over my1-terabyte SSD that I had in my

(01:19:19):
other one and actually justordered a 2-terabyte SSD that I
had my other one and I actuallyjust ordered a two terabyte SSD.
So I'm going to swap that outand I'll have four terabytes
there on the PlayStation 5,because games are huge, I mean,
they take up so much space.
So I think four terabytes is apretty good size to have for a
console at this point with thesize of games.
So how much do you have in yourPC?

(01:19:41):
Because I only have twoterabytes in my PC.

I think my SSD is only one terabyte, but I've got
numerous terabytes of justregular hard drive space that I
just use for just storage.

So I was going to say I also have a hard drive
for the PS5 Pro that stores myPS4 games.
So I use the SSD for ps5 gamesand then I use my two terabyte
hard drive for the ps4 games theonly thing, about when it comes
to like you can't play gamesoff of the hard drive.
You have to transfer them over,but you can store your games

(01:20:14):
there.

So yeah, plus, like when I play games and stuff
like that, I don't have likeall hundred some games
downloaded.
That would be ungodly amountsof terabytes of space.
It would just eat up for noreason.
But I can also download gameswithin an hour of any size, from
five gigs to 150 gigs.

See, that's why I've got to have, because I
don't have an hour to waitaround.
When I get to play, I barelyget to play, I don't have it
ready to go.

Regardless of game size, it doesn't take more
than an hour.
If that sometimes like a 50gigs, it takes, like you know,
maybe 30 minutes.
Download, install for me allright.

So here's what we got.
Um, some of the key takeawayshere.
For the ps5 pro uh, we've gotuh cpu.
It has an an eight times zen 2cores at 3.5GHz, and I want to
say that the PlayStation 5 was3.2GHz.
I'm not going to read off allthe numbers because it's not

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going to mean much to mostpeople, but the GPU has a custom
RDNA 2 architecture 36 cores at223 gigahertz.
So the PS5 has upgradedcapabilities compared to the
base model, offering improvedperformance, immersion and
beauty in games.
There are over 50 games rightnow at launch that are PS5 Pro

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enhanced.
It looks like.
Let me see here I'm trying tomake sure that I get all the
details.
So, yeah, it looks like I wasright.
So the PlayStation 5 had an8-core, 16-thread processor
based on the AMD Zen 2, and thePS5 Pro or hold on, sorry, I had

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it reversed the ps5 had the 3.5gigahertz uh clock speed, so
the ps5 pro is overclocked.
Um, it looks like we also gotthe graphics in.
The playstation 5 pro arepowered by a chip equipped with
67 percent more compute unitsand 28 faster memory than the

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gpu and the base model.
Uh, the base ps5 is 10.28teraflops, while the ps5 pro has
16.7 teraflops gpu.
Uh, playstation 5 pro has 16gigabytes of gddr 6 ram and an
additional two gigabytes of ddr5memory, which ps5 uh did not

(01:22:43):
have.
Any additional memory.
Um, playstation 5 pro has twicethe amount of free storage
space.
Obviously we said the twoterabytes and that's the base
model there for that.
Um looks like the ps5 proweighs in at 3.1 kilograms while
the uh ps5 pro is at 5.2kilograms, so definitely a

(01:23:08):
weight difference there.
Um, we've got oh ps5 pro hassomething new called game boost
mode and essentially it is gameboost is what I was talking
about earlier for the PS4 games,where it will boost up the game
.
Essentially, put a PS4 game in,it boosts the game up.

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So better frame rate, betterresolution, visuals, stuff like
that, and that is exclusiveobviously to the Pro.
We've also got I mean, I thinkit's, it's depending all the big
points and obviously pssr andplaystation 5 has no um dlss

(01:23:50):
features.
So yeah, yeah, so I mean you're, you're kind of on the the
fence of not having any interestin getting it, and then I don't
have any interest in getting it, and then I don't have any
interest in getting it.

Yeah, I it.
Everything plays just fine.
I it looks better, but to meI've seen upgrades before it
just it's.
It's negligible.
I already I will say I made themistake of the.

PS4.
You haven't really seen theupgrade, so until you see it in
person, you, you just thecompression on the internet, you
, you it's diminishing returnsand that and when I say
diminishing returns I meandiminishing returns on
compression and videos you justcannot see the difference you.

you have to see it in person it's also
negligible because I don't havea 4k tv.
I've had the same tv since like2017 I had it plugged in today.

I had it plugged into my monitor.
I didn't plug it into my TV yet, so I plugged it into my
monitor.
So I tried it on my 1080p PS3monitor and then I tried it on
my 1440p ultra-wide screenmonitor, and I didn't even play
in 4K and it just lookedsignificantly better.

But I mean, I'm already at the point.
If I actually cared about 4Kgaming, gaming and the fact that
so many of these games arecoming to PC, I rather just put,
put that extra money into justupgrading to PC and it's you
know, because if you reallywanted to go high in to get the
best out of it, you know PC isalways gonna be the way to go.
But I just I will say moreflexibility.

I will say there's a little regret.
I did not grab the elgatostream deck yet because we need
them.
We need them especially fortwitch.
Oh my gosh, if there's a gamechanger mark, when you, when you
get that, you'll see exactlywhat I'm talking about, how much
gonna be a while, how much of agame changer that is.
It's next on my list.
It's just when I can get it.

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I'm trying to find a deal.
I keep bidding on them on oneBay and losing, trying to find
a deal Because you can get.

At that point you're going to have to get
lucky, but probably not.

We'll see.
I've got lucky before.
I'll keep trying.

At that point it'd just be easier to buy it at
MSRP.
Just save up for it.

Well, I'm a cheapo, all right.
So we Well, machipo, all right.
So we've got Mario and LuigiBrothership.
We spoke on it a little bitearlier.

We didn't trash on IGN for a 5 out of 10 for it
enough.

Not yet.
We're getting to that, but no,some of the review scores.
So OpenCritic has it at a 79,and Metacritic has it at an 80.
That's exactly what we bothsaid.
Yeah that's what I would say.

That's like you know, digital trends 2.5 out of
5.
I think it's too low.
I mean, you know, eurogamer andstuff like that press start 7.5
out of 10, a 4 out of 5.
Of course Nintendo gave it a 9out of 10 and stuff like that,
but I think a 9 is too high.
I think a 9 is too high.
I think a 7 to an 8 is wherethis game realistically lies.

Who is God?
Is a geek.

I have no idea.
Whatever Nintendo deal over onTwitter, grabbed it.

Oh my gosh, but yeah, I mean.
So what's kind of your thoughtswith, just say, your first
opening thoughts with the first15 minutes of the game?
What were your thoughts?
Because you've never played aMario and Luigi game before,
you've never played a Mario RPGwhatsoever.
So what are kind of yourthoughts with the opening of the

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game?
No spoilers, obviously we'renot that far.

It's both my favorite and my least favorite
Mario and Luigi game, by natureof it being the only one I was
about to say Outside of it.
At times there's too muchdialogue where it's like I just
want to get and play the gamelike this Because it's kind of
RPG-esque, but the story's justnot super deep, at least not out

(01:27:33):
the gate.
I think the dialogue goes on alittle too long than it needs to
.
In some areas, the actualgameplay I think is absolutely
fun.
Because when to in some areasthe actual gameplay I think is
absolutely fun.
Uh because, like with the, whenyou're running around,
obviously mario's the main,luigi kind of follows you.
There's, like you know, hit ato jump for mario, b for luigi
and stuff like that and there'scertain things you can do.
As far as the, the puzzles,early on it's just getting you
used to the world and thecharacter controls and stuff

(01:27:54):
like that.
So the ability to create uniquepuzzles is there, uh, with you
uh, creating or controlling twodifferent characters.
But also the combat it's whatyou would call term-based combat
, but there's also unique waysto counter the enemy.
So what you do is different.
You can jump on an enemy butyou can use Mario and Luigi to

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they use each other to getmultiple hits on an enemy and
stuff like that and do moredamage and stuff like that.

Later your enemies have moves to be able to
use, like Mario and Luigi atthe same time, for a stronger
move and things like that.

I'm still early on, where it's just a lot of
basic attacks and stuff likethat.
But no, you also have to dealwith the enemies.
Not only can they hit,obviously, if you just don't do
anything, they're going to hityou and do damage.
But you can both dodge andcounter.
But the way enemies attack youis a little different.
You kind of kind of have tolearn how different enemies,
their attack patterns, work inbattle.
That way you can both dodge andyou know, say, stomp on them as

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you're dodging to do moredamage and stuff like that,
which is a unique thing, to kindof keep you on your toes during
the combat and stuff like thatyeah, I always love the counter
attacks and then obviously theway that you can dodge moves,
and marion luigi, because everysingle enemy has a different way
.

It's going to come out and attack you and
stuff like that, so you'reconstantly having to learn some
of them will have to use ahammer, um, but, but I always
love the ability of being ableto strike the enemy twice if you
time correctly, which you getgood at timing correctly too and
it helps in later battles.
Let me tell you, in Mario LuigiPartners in Time, the final boss

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battle is an absolute nightmare.
I remember as a kid and thiswould have been around the time
that me and you were hanging outplaying games and stuff for the
GBA and DS.
But I got it around that timeand I was like hardcore into the
DS at the time, like I had acollection bigger than I have
now and I just absolutely lovedit.

(01:29:50):
But I remember having to dothat boss battle probably 100
times before I beat it.
So, like it does amp up indifficulty Always does you
obviously unlock new moves andnew things and we don't know
where the story is going to takeus.
So I'm excited to see whathappens with the game.
Do you plan to see it through?

I might stream it one or two more times.
No idea if I plan on I don'tplan on beating the game on
stream.
We'll see if I actuallyproperly get around to beating
it.
I'm sure I will eventually.
But I mean, it seems like it'sa fairly large world and stuff
like that you can probably be,because you're essentially on a
ship going around, having tolike reconnect a bunch of other
islands and stuff bringingtogether.
It's not spoiler, it's prettyearly on the story and stuff

(01:30:36):
like that, but it's kind ofunique because you only have
like many islands and stuff likethat, but you also have
apparently large, like fourlarge uh lighthouses and stuff
that you eventually need to goto.
But you're also on a ship, solike there's like a mini map and
you have to go around differentcurrents to get to different
islands.
But you know it's not like afast travel thing, like you have
to wait for your ship to tomove around, get within range in

(01:30:57):
the next island, so it kind ofit's like you're actually in the
world, moving it around andstuff like that.
Yeah, as well as there, you'llsee as you go through, uh,
you'll go through certain worlds, but there's very obvious
different areas where you haveto get power-ups or you have to
uh, have reconnected, said, theisland back to your main ship to
then unlock other areas.
So there's always a reason togo back to the different worlds,

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though, once you've unlockedthe islands's a straight little
fast travel.
More people will come to yourmain ship.
You can go back, buy differentthings, upgrade different stuff.
There's a reason to completethe game At least early on, an
initial reason to go back todifferent areas to collect more
things, as well as if you havean achievement bone.
There are what we calldifferent challenges that you

(01:31:40):
can do to unlock different gear,awards and stuff like that, or
just like little power-ups.
You can use, uh, one of them'slike hey, you need to.
You know, you know, win 500, 300battles or win 300 battles
without having any kind of likegear or stuff powered up.
So they're like there's likelittle achievements and stuff
like that if you want to likechallenge yourself to to

(01:32:00):
different things in the game aswell.
But yeah, for like a littleplatformer, rpg type game, I
don't think it's like thehardest thing in the world from
what I've played, but it's.
It's a nice type of game thatyou could hop in, do an island
in about a half hour to an hourand then, you know, come back to
it later.
So you could hop in for like 30minutes, do an island and then

(01:32:25):
do another island, you know, orsomething like that yeah you
need to sit down and play forfor a significant amount of time
.
They're like right, when I tookit they're like kind of like
mini, little dungeons, kind oflike in the tears of the kingdom
breath of wild, you have thosemini, mini dungeons and then you
have your overall larger,bigger dungeons, kind of later
on is what it felt like yeah,yeah, I haven't made it as far
as you.

I literally just shot out the cannon to the
first island, so I've made itnowhere near where you have, but
I'm glad to hear that you'reenjoying it and I think it is a
good game.
I would love to see you see itthrough, because I like watching
your streams.
I like when you stream and Ifeel like you could probably be
in three or four streams.
Honestly.

If there are more than like two hours, it feels
like it's a longer game.

They're usually like 15, 20 hour games, usually
yeah, but I guess we'll see yeahwe'll see.
What else we got next?

Got me burping.
Caught you lurping?
Yeah, I've been burping all day.
Uh, we got some news.
This actually kind of came outthe same day you were streaming
a metaphor.
I think it was on tuesday, yeah, uh, where we did get no
announcement.
The only thing about the switch2 that we got is the fact that
we're going to get it for sure,an announcement the next like

(01:33:37):
five months.
That, yeah, they just verifiedit that this window was always
this big.
We just assumed we were goingto get it the fall, but it's
kind of starting to feel likethey're not going to announce it
, probably this year, probablygonna have, probably gonna be
next year, which means therelease window is probably
getting pushed to what?
September, october time framefor the console release if they
wait to the end of this windowyeah, which is shocking to me,

(01:33:59):
that it's not going to releasein the spring.

I I feel like there's still a chance of it
getting announced before springand it coming out in the spring.
But, like you said, you knowthey made the statement of the
five months, um, and that's howthey always do it.
But nintendo does lie and theydo have to sort of lie to the
public about a specific day ortime until they're ready to

(01:34:23):
really make the announcement.

They just gave a window.
But from what was said, wedon't know.
Obviously things are changing,but the president came out and
says their plans haven't changedfrom when they plan to announce
it.
So from what they're saying isthey have a date, they plan to
announce it and that hasn'tchanged.
It's just not when we thoughtthey were going to announce it.
It's what it's going to feellike yeah.

So I mean, and also we got the news, which is
the the, I would say the biggerof the news is that it's
backwards compatible.
So we confirmed that we areworking with carts again.
So my guess is it's my guess isit's going to be like the 3ds
to ds carts, where there's goingto be a notch in the Switch 2
carts that prevent it beingstuck into a DS.

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That's my guess.

Yeah, to prevent the trying to use the newer ones
backwards.
But I also assume the newerones are going to be just have
better memory and stuff likethat.
Oh for sure, for sure.
But yeah, I assume they'regoing to have something.
That way you can't put a Switch2 cartridge in a Switch and it
obviously isn't going to worktype thing.
But I think it works betterbecause they went away from

(01:35:28):
essentially flash storagebecause, well, disks were just
better.
But now we're at the pointwhere, if you want to call it,
flash storage has caught back upto where disks are.
If not, they're arguably betterat storing and being a little
faster with the load time.
So it seems like that's whereNintendo wants to go as well.
As, if you want, like ahandheld, disc is not good for
handheld.
The ability of seeing thingsStuff like that.

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You want to stick with a morecartridge, and that's what
they've always done with theirhandhelds.
It's always a cartridge whichit was for the longest time
limiting.
But that technology's caughtback up to where DVD and Blu-ray
discs are, where it's kind ofnegligible.

Yeah, for sure, and I still do feel very
confident that we're going to beat the level of working around
probably like a Steam Deck, oled, asus, rog Alloy X sort of
level, I think it just has to beto be somewhat competitive
outside of just your first party, like it's gonna sell
regardless.

but there needs to be a reason to where you want
to get this first before youget like a raw galley or a steam
deck yeah, for sure, for sure.

I I'm glad.
Obviously it's backwardscompatible.
Uh, that's important and Ipretty much called that.

I mean I think we kind of all thought that um
here's the question what do youthink the price point is going
to be for it?
I think it's 400, I think 400,399 I just don't think that you
can go over 400, but that'sassuming whatever the specs are
going to be.
On the announcement, like howmuch of an upgrade is going to
be, what's the equivalent of ofa of the console, the ps, the

(01:36:55):
playstation and the uh xbox.
So I really drive the price tag.

Thomas Isaac said PS5 Pro is a must-better
game console than base PS5.
So just coming at Mark there, Idon't know, I think.
As far as the Switch stuff, Ithink it's what it's going to be
.
It's like a notch-type dealpreventing it from going into

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the Switch 1.
It's obviously going to be.
It's like a notch-type dealpreventing it from going into
the Switch 1.
It's obviously going to bebeefier, with more storage and
more capabilities.
So that's kind of my thoughtswith that.
But we also got kind ofnon-news.
We had the financial report forNintendo, obviously.
So what we're looking at?
They basically got headlinesfor the zelda movie as well as

(01:37:45):
the next mario brothers movie.
Um, so when they shared thatthe switch 2 is backwards
compatible, uh, they also sharedthat the zelda movie will be
released before the end of thedecade.
I can't make this up before theend of the decade, so the
timeline is 2026.

(01:38:05):
We're looking at the next mariomovie, which I would have
thought next year, but 29.

Well, technically , depending on how you count,
you have up until 2030 torelease this game.
Technically, depending on howyou count decades, do you start
saying at 2030 or 2031?
I've, because there's argumentsthat the decade starts well, it
says 2020, so it's the latest2029, I would assume I'm just

(01:38:33):
saying there's a semanticargument to say the decade in
the last year that there arecurrent decade is 2030, not 2029
.

Yeah, that's true, considering how you want
to count a decade.
They also said In the field ofvisual content, we are making
direct investments and aredeeply involved in the planning
and development of multipleproductions.
Nintendo president ShintaroFurukawa said the Super Mario
Bros movie, a joint productionwith Illumination, was released
in April last year and wasviewed by theaters by

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approximately 170 people.
This film was enjoyed by peopleof all ages, regardless of
gaming experience.
Uh, making mario more familiarto a broader audience than ever
before.
Looking ahead, we are creatinga new animated film based on the
world of super mario brothers,set for theatrical release In
April 2026.
Additionally, we are planningDeveloping a live action film Of

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Legend of Zelda.
So those are his words thereDuring the investor meeting.

So I assume Just based off Nintendo being really
protective Of their IP Mistakesof the past, in the 90s, from
both gaming and media.
If this movie is any quality ofwhat they've dealt with the
super mario bros movie, you needto have similar amount of faith
.
But is a live action moviebetter than they threw like a 3d

(01:39:54):
cg movie with?

it's gonna be tough, it's it's tough, it's
hard to say they have to do itright but uh, I do think it
needs to be obviously the natureof it, just it's.

It's tough, it's hard to say they have to do it
right, but uh, I do think itneeds to be obviously the nature
of it, just it's, it's goingprobably going to be, and it
needs to be somewhat darker thanwhat mario is yeah, it's gotta
be, it has to have at least uh,you would say at least a pg.
I think it needs.
It would be better off as likea pg-13 movie.

But I don't know , nintendo has like the guts to
want to go that route I have aweird feeling that it's going to
be Ocarina of Time based andaround the Deku tree and sort of
different points.

That's like every Zelda game for the most part,
not every, but a lot.
What?
What are you talking about?
There's a lot of Zelda gamesthat come around, like the Deku
tree and stuff like that.

Yeah, but not in the way that ocarina time does
it.
But I have a feeling that it'sgoing to be young link and it's
probably going to be, you know,the hero of time okay, here's a
question does this tie into thenew timeline at all, or is it
going to be its own thing?
Because it's going to be itsown thing, for sure, for sure.
Well then, why not just startthe very beginning?
Why start in the middlesomewhere?

because here's got to be its own thing, for
sure, for sure.
Well then, why not just startthe very beginning?
Why start in the middlesomewhere?

because here's the argument with that the
original game.
The argument with that is howdo you tell the original game
when there is like pretty muchthere's a story but it's a
non-story and staying for zelda2, which is a future game.
So it's like what, where, wheredo you pick?

to start like picking zelda 1 is kind of you
want to base it off of a gameand you want some amount of
freedom.
The original zelda game will bewhere you want to go because
you have a base outline, but youcan build on it so much more
because the story is so thestory is it's dangerous take,
take this I mean no, but like.
That's both iconic and it allowsthem to have some flexibility,

(01:41:47):
like, outside of getting allthese tripartite pieces, you
have some freedom to actuallytell a story in that world.
That's true, look like a breath.
I want it to be its own thing,restricted to being like oh you
change this from the ocarina ofTime story.
I don't like this.
You can avoid a lot of thoseproblems and then from there you
can just do your own thing.

I think people need to mind their business and
let Nintendo do whatever theywant to do.

The problem is they've done that in the past
and they gave us the Mario moviefrom the 90s.

Mark, that was a long time ago.
The Zelda CDI games was a longtime ago.

The uh the zelda cdi games.
Which so and that I'm sorry,but zelda's adventure is a good
game.

This is terrible , all those cdi.
It is the reason we have echoesof wisdom 100, it's not 100 of
it as you play as zelda uh, youknow what?
well, excuse me princess notfrom the games, from the, from
the cartoon, but coming backaround the Pokemon TCG pocket,
it passed 30 million downloadsin 9 days, which is insane.

(01:42:49):
I don't know what Pokemon Go'srecord was, but I feel like this
is bigger now I'm curious youknow what you bring that up?
I gotta google it but I mean 30million downloads in nine days
is absolutely bonkers.

No, it's insane.

Yeah, it looks like.
So.
Apparently it has made $12million in four days.

That's a lot of money, considering you're mainly
just getting peripherals whenyou spend actual money in the
game.
You need like $5 from like halfof those to make that much
money.

It says Pokemon CCG Pocket is earning around
three million dollars a day,making over 12 million just four
days.
That's more than the eternallypopular pokemon go is currently
making on app stores.
According to estimates um, ifpokemon trading card game pocket
keeps that revenue pace up,it'll make over a billion

(01:44:00):
dollars a year.
Absolutely, nintendo or notnintendo, I guess it would be
the pokemon company knocked itout of the park with this.
Absolutely knocked it out ofthe park.
Oh, 100, I mean this is justinsane.
These are insane numbers.

I mean this is not the same.
This is an article back from2022, but in 2022, pokemon go
had uh, I lost the number had a678 million downloads worldwide,
and in 2022 it had made aboutsix billion dollars so this is
on track to to outpace that forsure.

I mean, you can't really been out for nine
days.

You'd have to probably search a little bit
more for the first month of thatgame.
You'd have to go probably wayback to 2016 for the game launch
.
But I do know that game wasmassively popular, even among
people that had never playedPokemon games before.

Which this is too, because I know people that
are doing it who aren't reallyPokemon fans.
Doesn't feel like?

it's the same.
It hasn't caught the, thecultural zeitgeist like go did,
to the same degree like that.
It's only been nine days markbut pokemon go did the same
thing in the same like, verylike the first month, I don't it
.

30 million downloads.

That's insane it's also a free mobile game and
so is pokemon go yeah, but likeit you don't.
You don't feel the the culturalimpact of a game like this,
like pokemon go.

I don't think that we have yet better and I
don't know if that can happenagain in the same way.
Pokemon go was like I don'tthink it will.
It just it came out at theright time.
Like it just.
It was the right time forpokemon and non-pokemon fans
were playing it.
It was.
It's a different type of game.
You know what I mean Now.
It's like its own genre, butit's a different type of game

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where it's definitelynon-traditional.
Pokemon.
You have all these areas thatyou have to explore at Pokestops
and things like that, all overthe real world map.
It was just a unique idea andit was something totally
different.

So uh, I was trying to look at something if
what I'm looking at is rightfrom business of appscom.
It looks like in 2016, pokemongo had about 232 million users
220.

Okay, so this is probably going to surpass that
pretty quickly.
I think I have a good feelingit's going to, I mean, 30
million, nine days and it'salready made $12 million.

It's assuming it maintains that pace.

What is it?

It's assuming it maintains that pace.

That's true, yeah that's true For sure.
What is it that's assuming itmaintains that pace?
That's true.
Yeah, that's true for sure.
Uh, we got more pokemon-esquenews, uh, with pow world, um.
So I can't read all of it, butwe got the actual reports for
the lawsuits, um.
So one of the headlines readspow world developer reports
nintendo's suing over threepokemon patents for only 66,000

(01:47:01):
in damages.
But a video game IP lawyer saysfighting the lawsuit could mean
burning millions of dollars.

So it comes down to if you just pay them, what
losses do you incur, though?
Right, right Is it worthactually fighting this in court
If you actually have a chancebecause Power World probably has
hundreds of millions of dollarsavailable to actually fight
this if they want to.
Is it worth the time and themoney?
And if they were to cave, whatwould be the ramifications of

(01:47:33):
them not fighting the lawsuititself?

Right, yeah, yeah, I feel like obviously the
way to go is to just pay them Ithink this settles out of court.

But the actual details, it has to be more than
just damages.
They want probably done.
Do they have to pay somethingelse?
And and the term of like well,you're using our patent, so
you're gonna pay us?

like a royalty or something.

Yeah, I'm 100.
I don't think this is gonna endup in court, because they
usually don't.
They usually end up gettingsettled out of court because
both sides will.
It's financially, but neitherof these sides wants to actually
go to court.
It's going to cost both of themmillions of dollars.

Oh yeah, for sure.

But you know, if Nintendo wants to settle this
out of court, they're going tohave to give the power
developers something in returnthat would, you know, not like
financially crush them outsideof, just say this much money in
damages but yeah, well, we want50 of your royalties.
That's like no, we're not goingto give you that much money
type thing.

(01:48:31):
So I think there's a lot ofdetails that we're more than
likely probably just never goingto know behind the deals.
They're behind the scenes ofthis actual deal.
Yeah, it's interesting.

They're only claiming that much money, which
means it's kind of a lot lowerthan I would have thought this
feel like they're just suingthem on the uh it's a the
principle, because they have tobecause of the principle,
because of of perceived they'remaking a statements

well, no, because it's, it's one of these things
and it's uh, because a lot oftimes you see lawsuits and
you're like that seems kind ofstupid.
But there's like I guess thebest example I've seen is that
most people could say deal with,say you own like a plot of land
and you've got like notrespassing signs.
Someone trespasses but youdon't actually charge them with

(01:49:16):
anything.
Well, in the future, if you do,the time you didn't can be used
against you and you can loseyour legal protections.
So it's essentially the idea ofto have your legal protections.
You have to file a lawsuit andfight this in the courts or you
lose protections in the future.
So this could be that that thatsuit, that, regardless of

(01:49:36):
whether it's true or not,nintendo has to fight this,
because if they don't, theycould potentially and it's
different country, differentlaws but they could lose certain
protections copyright andpatent infringement protections
in the future because theydidn't.

Right.

Yeah, it could be one of those things.
Obviously, japan's a differentcountry, but a lot of the stuff
when you deal with copyright andstuff like that you have to
finance.
You have to go after peoplebecause you have to protect your
, your, your, your copyright,your patents, because if you
don't and you choose not to, itcould be perceived as you not
caring, and then yeah completelylose those protections in the

(01:50:14):
future which I think a lot ofpeople don't just see surface
level stuff and don't actuallydig deeper into into the law,
because it's confusing, itdoesn't make a lot of sense uh,
I just wanted to shout out.

we've got morticia over there on the
YouTube chat.
Omega095 is asking about you,mark.

(01:50:46):
He always watched your trailstreams.
And Mr Coffee said I still seepeople go around playing Pokemon
Go.
Mr Coffee said Breaking newsTony Todd passed away at 69.

Oh, that's unfortunate yeah.
I need to get back in thetrails, but there's so many
games to play.

Yeah, that is unfortunate.
He was Candyman.

That's what I always thought I think I forgot
to put that in the notesinitially.
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
He was Candyman, that's what Ialways saw him as, I think.

I forgot to put that in the notes initially.
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
I wonder if there's a reasoning.

You say that there's something else I thought
I saw.

No information about the death has been made
public apparently.

Which is pretty normal out the gate.
Yeah, with the family and stufffirst, before they usually
release stuff.
No, but you brought that upbecause this was back on the
first, but I didn't think it wassuper relevant.
But the Ryu Kono that didn'tcompletely come to my name.

(01:52:00):
The art director for Mob,Psycho 100, Devilman Crybaby and
Space Sandy passed away.

Oh, that's sad.

Beck, perfect Blue Paranoia Agent and Carol,
but I believe she passed awaythe Tuesday before actual
Thanksgiving was what it waskind of listed as.

Oh, wow.

A little less relevant, but you know, know
people that work on a lot ofstuff that I'm sure somebody's
seen.

Those are really well-known titles and stuff
like that apparently tony toddwas the voice of venom uh in
spider-man 2 for the ps, ps5 alot of deaths this past year,
but there has every year just alot of people always passing
away, unfortunately yeah, it isvery unfortunate, um, I didn't
know that he played the voice ofVenom in the game, though.
That's crazy.

No, it is.
What else did he work on?

He was in all kinds of stuff.
So some of the things that Isaw here.
Obviously, the big one for meis Candyman, but he was in the
Crow.
He was in Platoon Transformers,revenge of the Fallen.

Final Destination 5.

Wishmaster Night of the Living Dead Candyman.
The man from Earth 24Redemption Looks like he was
also in.
Lean on Me, enemy TerritorySleepwalk.
Let's see what other big ones.

Don't Miss Platoon.

Yeah, I said that.

Which is a big one Driven.
I may have missed you sayingthat, sorry.

No, you're good.
He was in Babylon 5, a Call toArms, final Destination 1.
He was also in FinalDestination 2.

Did you say the Rock?
I missed that one.
Yeah, he was in that I was onWikipedia just going through the
whole movies and stuff likethat.

Yeah, he was in a lot of movies, a lot A lot of
stuff actually.
Yeah, there's a huge list.
I can't read everything off,but there's some big ones.

I was just trying to go through to see if there's
anything else that you hadn'tsaid, that I missed he's in
arachnophobia, which is a prettygood horror movie um oh,
transformers, revenge of thefallen as a voice yeah, he did
the voice.

Um, he voiced dark side inign of the Supermen.
Yeah, skysharks, he was MajorGeneral Frost, tales from the
Hood 3.
He played William, so he was ina lot of stuff, man, a lot of
stuff.
Wow, yeah, it's veryunfortunate that's not that old

(01:54:39):
either.
No, not at all, but he did somevoices in what looks like to be
some uh tv series like uh 21,jump street, macgyver, matlock,
the x-files, law and order, startrek, the next generation um
x-files, hercules, star trek,deep Trek, deep Space Nine, nypd

(01:55:03):
, blue Xenia, warrior Princess.
He was in all kinds of stuff TVand movies.

Old Hercules and stuff like that.

He voiced quite a few video games too, including
the Legend at Dragoon, which isprobably my favorite JRPG of
all time for the PS1.
Also Half-Life 2, episode 2,dota 2, call of Duty, black Ops
2, Star Trek Online, artifact,layers of Fear 2, half-life,

(01:55:36):
alyx Back 4, blood, spider-man 2, and he's in the, it's not even
out yet Indiana Jones and theGreat Circle.

So Actually I didn't realize that Stas going
through some stuff.
I actually remember him fromone very specific show in a very
specific episode, so he playeda Lord, a high con, from an
episode of season 9 of StargateSG 1.

Yeah, I see that .

Season 9 where they were doing with the uh
sudan warriors and stuff likethat yeah, that's I didn't
realize, too, he wasn't.
I actually saw him in that,because that's a huge tv show
that I absolutely love, oh yeahdeep.

He was deep space nine as well.
So yeah, that's, that's uh,that's super unfortunate, um so
it really is yeah, thoughts goout to the family and friends.
um, and then I I just I wantedyou to go over this, just kind
of get your quick thoughts,because since you know a little

(01:56:31):
less about godzilla but I threwone godzilla thing in there, it
was just an interesting littlearticle talking about kind of
comparing the monsterversese tosome of the older Godzilla films
and sort of the take of how theMonsterVerse is set up from the
older films from like the showand the Heisei era, and I just

(01:56:53):
kind of wanted to get yourthoughts sort of on that.

So the comparison I think I just don't think the
MonsterVer verse is at the samequality of the old Godzilla
movies, but I just don't thinkit has the charm of those movies
.

I have been going down a Godzilla deep dive
the past four or five dayslistening to these very, very
long retrospectives, uh, goingover every single.
But I've I've watched everysingle movie, but I still like
to learn.
There's like these facts anddetails that I learned and and

(01:57:29):
uh didn't know, and things likethat and um, yeah, I mean, I
just yeah, I just I loveGodzilla man, I really do.
I think that, you know, havingthe Japanese Godzillas and then
the, the Americanized Godzillaat the same time is actually
really cool and it's notsomething I would have ever
predicted.

so they're good movies, but they're popcorn
heavy cg, it's just not my, Iprefer the old ones.
Like I'll say this my twofavorite godzilla movies are
both done by by toho.
It's the og uh godzilla andthen it's minus one, just
because there's like only ahandful of movies that deal with

(01:58:04):
godzilla as an actual villain,not like an anti-hero, but
please, please, take the time.

So I highly recommend the criterion release
of the original godzilla.
It's that one I know Criterionphysical release.
Oh okay, I highly recommend it.
It has so much extras in thatmovie, including both the Gojira
version of the film and theGodzilla version of the film.
Gojira is the way to watch it.

(01:58:34):
I'm sorry the Godzilla that wegot was so dumbed down with the
news reporter.

It was just well, to be fair, I've only ever
watched the original uh in theJap with Japanese audio.
I've never watched the Englishdub version of the original
Godzilla.

It's worth watching once to see the
differences, because basicallyit was just taking that film and
then you had an actor that wasfilming different segments that
had nothing really wasn't in themovie.

so yeah, I mean I guess I'll say this dubbing
works good with animationbecause it's, it's a, the format
works better.
I've never liked or think it.
Live action dubbing actuallyworks.
It just comes off as badbecause the voice just can never
match, uh, the the actual bodyon screen.
You just know it.
So every time I've watched likea live action foreign film,

(01:59:25):
I'll always watch it withsubtitles and never in english,
because it just it's never good.
Yeah, where obviously animationis a whole different medium,
but not a whole, but it's adifferent medium.
Where it works, it can work.
Where we're in live action, Ijust don don't think it can ever
work as well, regardless of thequality of voice action.
You know, to be fair with a lotof those had like bottom of the

(01:59:46):
barrel voice actors, supercheap.

Yeah, no doubt.
Well, I guess, to kind of closeout the podcast, what is your
favorite Kaiju, that you'reaware of?

My favorite.
I feel like saying Godzillawould be a cop out, but I think
it might be.
It might be godzillainteresting oh I what's, what's
yours.
I guess I don't depend on youand mothra destroyers is
destroyer and mecha godzilla 2are my two favorites, I gotta

(02:00:22):
say there's a lot of kaijumovies that I haven't seen,
though, to be fair, and the onesI look up, destroyer.

Look up godzilla versus destroyer and you'll
understand why it's my favorite.

It's one of the coolest designs ever I'll say
king kong's, one of my leastfavorite.
I've never cared for godzilla,but you never cared for godzilla
no, I never have you just saidyou liked godzilla I like him in
in the newer stuff but as awhole is one of the weaker ones.
If you, if you consider, uh, Iguess I better explain all the

(02:00:52):
movies together.
I think it's one of those, oneof the weaker ones, godzilla no,
kong Kong.

Oh, I like him as a character.
I love King Kong.

I think he's okay in the Monsterverse, but in the
older stuff I just think he'sjust not good and I don't care
for him.

I have a soft spot for all of it.
Peter Jackson's King Kong isreally good.
It's just very long, so butyeah, I think Destroy, destroy
is probably my favorite.
Kaiju, next to uh, mecha,godzilla 2 the second design, I
think, is absolutely amazing.
Um, and then I mean, as far asfavorite movies, for me it goes

(02:01:36):
gojira, and then I always have,I always go back and forth with
tokyo sos, which a lot of peopledon't like.
I love it, and destroy allmonsters.
Fair enough, those are probablymy favorites.
But uh, do you have anythingelse this week?
Mark any uh special mentions,any uh plans this weekend, or no

(02:02:03):
?

I think we hit everything.
Obviously we're.
We're live streaming tomorrowat eight, like we always do, but
past that, what are we playingthis week?

I?

think it's the dragon ball sparking zero.

That's what you wanted to play, so well, just, I
mean it's, it's a newer game,so that we at least get our
money's worth and stuff likethat.
But I think I do want to dothis soon.
I picked it up so that we coulddo streams, since it's cheaper.
It's.
You know, like I said, I usedmy $5 off on it it was around

(02:02:34):
like $20, and this is a prettyrecent game.
So I've been holding out.
I just didn't want to pay $60for it.
But I was thinking like I hadyou in mind.
I was like, oh okay, anotheranime game That'd be fun to play
, because we've only played afew, so why not?
Plus, you get all thecharacters from all the series.
It's pretty crazy Tons and tonsof characters.

(02:02:55):
And it's not a traditionalfighter.
It's like Sparking Zero, whereit's very non-traditional.
so it's not like aside-scrolling 2D fighter or
anything like that, and you werekicking my butt on uh.

I don't know, until I fought an actual fighter
.

I think it was just cheese and the power-ups
well, uh, do you have anythingthat you you want to plug,
anything else to you?

got more content coming out on the on the
junction network channel todefinitely check out moving
forward, but other than that,like we got everything yeah, and
then I have a video that willbe coming out.

I haven't decided whether I'm going to do
it for this weekend or just holdoff and have it on the regular
wed, but I've got about half ofit edited and that will be
coming out.
I'm super excited about thatvideo.
And then after that I've got aspecial project video I'll tell
you about Mark afterwards thatI'm going to do.
That's sort of just kind of ajust sort of a dedication to

(02:03:59):
something that I love.
So I'm really excited.
It's going to be different,something entirely different
from the channel Um, but it'sgoing.
It's going to fill in that popculture space.
It's not going to be gamingstraight related, uh, but it's
going to be pretty cool.
So we appreciate everybodywatching Um.
Of course we are on on all plataudio platforms Apple podcasts,

(02:04:20):
we're on all audio platformsApple Podcasts, spotify,
everything.
We're on everything.
Basically, just follow us, giveus a follow.
Rates and downloads do help outa lot.
If you are an audio listener,if you could go over to our
YouTube channel and give ussubscribe there and you can

(02:04:43):
watch a video podcast, itdefinitely would help a lot
transferring the audiences andgetting to see us and getting to
know us in video form, too, isgreat as well.
And then we'll also have theAnime Junction cast.
We're doing videos of that onSpotify, so that's getting
uploaded there and on otherplatforms as well.
So definitely a lot to lookforward to tons of new content.

(02:05:03):
And then we are going tocontinue the stream schedule.
Marquette.
I think that I'm probably goingto dedicate Wednesdays.
I know I did Tuesdays this week, but I think I'm going to
dedicate Wednesdays and then I'mgoing to try for Mondays.
I think I'm going to dedicateWednesdays and then I'm going to
try for Mondays.
That's maybe.
That's one where I can't put iton the schedule because I don't

(02:05:25):
know for sure, but we've got mestreaming on Wednesdays.
We've got Thursday.

You won't be streaming next Thursday, correct
?
I can't.
The problem is my, my Mondaythrough.

I guess technicallyursday schedule is
just way too inconsistent tohave a consistent schedule.
Okay, so we know for sure.
Obviously, the podcast, theconsistent me.

For for me, streaming alone, sunday's the
consistent day and if I canstream that week or I might pop
in randomly, but I can't.
It can't be a consistent stuff.

So it's not going to be like on the schedule
, like is okay, so, so we've got, obviously, the podcast 8 pm,
eastern standard time, liveevery single week on twitch and
youtube, as well as tiktok, andthen we stream every saturday at
8 pm.
It's going to be differentgames.
We'll announce what games areplaying and then mark is going
to be streaming, um, whatever hewants to play on sundays.

(02:06:18):
What time?
12 pm.

It's noon Eastern .

Awesome.
We appreciate everybodywatching, listening, liking,
subscribing all that stuff.
We will be back again next week.
Thanks everyone and have a goodone.

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