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Mark Trobough (00:00):
the controller
press starting.
Hold tight, we're about to letit up with.
Hey everybody, how's it going?
Just, uh, going in raw, therewe're all dog, all dogging that.
We're all doing that bad boytonight so the 125 hawk shua
brandon on that thing it's beenlike two months late to that
(00:22):
meme, but that's when they getgood.
That's when they get good.
Oh yeah, I'm super into thereally old memes.
Exactly, I was trying to thinkof the other one.
Brandon Hurles (00:30):
They do call you
the meme queen, don't they?
Mark Trobough (00:34):
Oh, you get the.
You know, go with your Italianmeme.
Brandon Hurles (00:37):
Oh, Mark, Sorry
for our audio listeners.
You got to fix the Twitchthough it says we're playing
Monster Hunter listeners.
You gotta fix the twitch thoughit says we're playing monster
hunter.
Mark Trobough (00:46):
I know why it's
doing that, because I didn't
even go and do it.
I didn't want to do it at all.
That's probably why it's doingit.
Brandon Hurles (00:54):
It's probably
not.
Yeah crap, sorry audiolisteners or some technical
difficulties here, but we'll getit fixed yeah, I know you're
good, but we'll get it fixedOkay.
Yeah, no, you're good meanwhile, one, two good and start
getting posts up real quick.
(01:14):
Uh, we got star stripes nerdhere in the house.
Gamer free, two, three, two.
How's it going guys?
Uh, sorry, we literally in thepodcast.
Uh, we had some stuff come up.
I'm at the hospital all day.
Been a fun time, mark, why areyou black and white?
Mark Trobough (01:33):
I have no idea.
Try to do like a bunch ofthings, so like, just give me a
second It'll be back to normal.
Brandon Hurles (01:40):
You got like
pink hair.
Are you one of those wokesters?
Mark Trobough (01:46):
I feel like I
just need to punch Brandon in a
second.
Everybody chat.
Close your eyes.
I'm trying to do something.
You keep distracting me.
Brandon Hurles (01:59):
You're literally
black and white.
I'm so confused right now.
Sorry guys, we're definitelyraw dogging it tonight, for sure
.
Yeah, I mean, is there anythingyou can bring up while you're
doing that, so I can?
Mark Trobough (02:19):
Oh, now I don't
know why my camera is doing that
.
Brandon Hurles (02:23):
I'm not too sure
either.
Maybe turn it off and on sensorcleaning so black and white?
That's weird.
Maybe, if I Move you out, putyou back in and see what happens
(02:43):
.
Nope, still black and white,white.
Maybe just unplug your cameraand plug it back in.
I guess we'll see.
Usually, simple crap like thattends to fix a lot of those
issues.
So, yeah, we got uh, you cansee one of the things we're
going to be showing off somepickups.
Bear with me, guys.
(03:04):
I am, I am very, very sick.
I still want to make sure I hitthe show, since it was such an
important one with the Switch 2.
I got one of my pickups backthere.
This is my second PlayStationTV.
I've got my collection.
Oh, there we go.
Mark's fix there.
So, all right, go ahead andtake it over, mark.
I want to get these posts upreal quick.
Mark Trobough (03:28):
Yeah, so
hopefully Crazy way to start the
podcast all the way around.
Hopefully everyone's having agood Friday.
A lot of news dropped this week.
Obviously it's all Switch news.
That's a lot and close to thebulk of what we're going to be
talking about today.
Yeah, I mean it's crazy, a lotto talk about and stuff like
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that.
Oh yeah, I know brand's gettingsome posts up, some other news
around there.
Obviously it's always fun tojust dunk on ubisoft, so this
movie's off news over therethat's going on.
That's dropped I don't thinkwe've talked about yet.
Uh, but more stuff just kind ofgoing on with that.
Uh, a few general other thingsmonster had an update.
Uh, surprisingly, far cry 4 wasin the news today.
Uh, you know, marvel rivals geta new character.
(04:09):
Uh, everyone's uh really lovingemma frost and then just a lot
of nintendo stuff to talk about.
That's like the bulk of it.
But I mean that makes sense.
We just had the, the direct onwednesday, so that's just like
sucking all the oxygen out ofthe room for anything else.
Brandon Hurles (04:22):
But it's a good
stuff.
Good stuff, that's the goodstuff.
Mark Trobough (04:25):
Oh yeah, the good
stuff.
But I know Brandon said hewanted to knock out some Before
we get into the news.
Do some of the pickups first.
Knock that out and then we'llgo straight into all the good
news stuff.
Brandon Hurles (04:38):
Yeah, I'm going
to jump into all yours.
Mark Trobough (04:42):
I've had a whole
lot Some of this other stuff.
I think I picked it up like aweek like it was like last week,
uh, I don't know.
Just just kind of some of thisstuff.
One thing came today.
The other stuff is I picked upat a walmart so surprisingly.
I don't know I was surprisedthey had it, but the akira
blu-ray and 4k versions of itwas at walmart had I known it's
(05:03):
like that up, I would have hadyou grab me a copy too, because
mine doesn't well, this was thelast blu-ray, at least when I
was there.
I've seen it before multipletimes but I mean, yeah, I mean
it's 40 bucks for a 40 year oldmovie.
Brandon Hurles (05:13):
But you know it
is remastered to be fair.
Mark Trobough (05:17):
It's I don't have
it in dvd now.
So there's one of those pros.
And then, uh, just becausesometimes walmart or at least my
Walmart does they had theseason one and two a psychopath.
I was like, ah, screw it, thiswas cheaper than the movie, that
was like 20 bucks.
And then the first of many oldretro games for the DS that I
was in the process of picking upcame in today.
So it's not, it's not gonnalook too well on the camera, but
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heart, gold, soul, silver, justthe game itself.
Silver, just the game itself.
Uh, taking that because Ihaven't played these remakes and
now they're like 120 to 150dollars, like on ebay, just just
the game alone.
It's not the cheapest, but it'sgood.
And some other games I wantedto get into, uh, so I got what's
it?
It's either I think it's blackit's why I think it's white too
(06:00):
that I have.
So I suddenly get black andwhite and then black too, and
then platinum as well and someother stuff I was trying to get.
So it's just a bunch of theolder Pokemon games.
I was kind of targeting andtrying to go after, right now,
some of your top 10 anime.
It's kind of hard becausethere's a lot of good stuff.
(06:22):
I mean you got I?
Brandon Hurles (06:26):
think you
probably got what you got in the
show behind you top 10.
Mark Trobough (06:30):
I think it's a
mixture, because you got like a
violet evergarden, uh, spice andwolf um, I don't have it, but I
I think I'd probably put donthat on up there as well.
I definitely really like thatone.
Uh, was it you hawk a show?
I don't have like a list,probably tension movie and some
other stuff, like that gate.
Uh, I have friend room but Ihaven't watched it yet.
(06:55):
Yeah, a whole bunch of othergood stuff.
I probably have to like do afull, proper list because, like,
I don't have like a go-to top10 for a lot of that stuff.
Even the same, with a lot ofgames, I got stuff I like, but
nothing that I like put togetherin a top 10 off the top of my
head.
There's always good stuffcoming out every year and
there's other stuff, like youknow, shows that I like more
(07:15):
than when I was younger, likeI'm, I'm higher now on, uh,
gundam seed or that, that wholeuniverse, uh, and I'm much lower
now than I was back then.
As far as Gundam Wing, it'squickly not one of my least
favorite Gundam shows.
Brandon Hurles (07:29):
I love Gundam
Wing so much.
Mark Trobough (07:31):
The more time
goes on, the more I watch
Special Universal Century.
It's such a very flawed showand stuff like that.
Brandon Hurles (07:39):
I mean, I think
there's probably a flaw to most
of the besides, I guess, besidesthe Universal Gundam timeline,
which even there there's someslow moments.
Mark Trobough (07:49):
But it's far
superior than it's.
The Universal Century timelinein and of itself is, like
superior to everything elsethey've put out since.
So that's a hill I'm willing todie on.
Brandon Hurles (08:01):
What about
Gundam?
Qqqqqqqq.
Mark Trobough (08:04):
I don't know.
I've not watched it.
I know it's supposed to be a.
From what I understand, it's anew spin or new take on
Universal Century.
If, like Zeon, had actually wonthe one year war.
Do you know how you actually saythe title?
I have no idea.
All I know is it's supposed tobe an alternate take on if, if
Zeon had won the one year war ofthe earth federation, which I
think is like a neat concept.
(08:25):
Uh, that's just secondhand.
So I have not.
I'm not actually watched it,because obviously it's one of
those where, even if the, theoriginal movie or whatever they
aired initially in theaters,comes to the U?
S, it comes like forever later.
So I get around to watching it.
You know, whenever they decide,hey, we're going to finally air
this thing, yeah, yeah, but no,definitely a lot of good stuff.
(08:47):
I know if you were ready totalk about your stuff or any of
me, keep going for a little bit.
Brandon Hurles (08:51):
Oh, you know
good and share all your stuff.
I'm still working.
Mark Trobough (08:54):
I already shared
I didn't have that many, that
many pickups to talk about.
Brandon Hurles (08:59):
I got quite sent
out that I'm going to be
covering on the channel andstuff too.
Mark Trobough (09:02):
But let me Is
there anything else you can riff
off real?
Brandon Hurles (09:07):
quick, while I
get one thing up here on
Facebook real quick.
Mark Trobough (09:11):
No, yeah, I think
I can.
Where is it at?
I thought I had something.
I can't remember if I aired itor not, I don't know, but I did.
I picked this up at Walmart,surprisingly as well.
I don't have a lot of gamepickups, unfortunately, but
(09:32):
Friend Run and stuff like that,which I know is a pretty good
show I think I ended up pickingit up at the store and stuff
like that One of those shows Ineed to watch.
What's it called?
I'm actually watching it.
What's it called?
Friend Run Can I see it beyondjourney's end, like?
If you're on the internet, I'msure you've seen some of the
memes about it oh, I've seenSkyforge Gaming did a, did a
(09:54):
whole case for that.
Brandon Hurles (09:56):
That series the
Asmongold's company, I think
it's called Skyforge, right orStarforge.
Mark Trobough (10:03):
Yeah, they get
Starforge a lot of good stuff
about the show, so I've heardgood things yeah uh, trying to
see if brandon's is good to goalmost.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to getthere um, yeah, hopefully,
hopefully, I'll be able to havea good friday so you can start
in the first topic if you wantto.
(10:23):
Yeah, basically like I wasn'tlike really prepared to like
completely riff outside of someof the other stuff, but I got
some other smaller stuff beforewe get into, like the nintendo
stuff, we can definitely talkabout.
Uh, so I think I mentioned earlyon.
So, for whatever reason, far cry4 specifically was back in the
news today all right so this wasone of those things where
apparently there was an updatefor the game that dropped, uh,
(10:46):
early today that essentiallycensored all the nudity in that
game worldwide, and in a fewhours later they came out like
that was a mistake.
And of course, there's a wholebunch of people talking about
the issue because, like you know, tencent just invested a
significant portion in the newsubsidiary with ubisoft, which
we'll get into later and stufflike that.
But uh, people just immediatelyjumped on that.
(11:07):
I was like, oh, this was a, itwas an error that they say it's
supposed to be a specific regionbuild, which I could believe.
But they put it out andeveryone just like, oh, tencent
is buying another company.
Now they're like censoring allof their old games.
But it's one of those thingsI'm like, unless you're like
giving access to like moresupport for like newer hardware
as far as like no ultra wide andsomething like that, which I
(11:29):
don't even think you really needfor a game this old.
I don't know why.
I don't know why a game thisold really even needs an update
to begin with, or seems, and how?
you're accidentally dropping anupdate like what is somebody
just not paying attention towhat they're doing?
I mean, it's a possibility, butit's just kind of stupid.
Brandon Hurles (11:47):
Yeah, seems
pretty silly to me.
Mark Trobough (11:49):
From what they
say.
They came out and reverted, butit was just.
It's weird, like, why is likeFar Cry 4, like this crazy, the
game's over 10 years old.
Brandon Hurles (11:59):
I mean, Far Cry
6 is out, for God's sake.
Mark Trobough (12:05):
Yeah, and then in
another five years you get Far
Cry 7.
It's just a matter of time.
But in the same I don't knowit's not necessarily the same
breath we did get some new newsas far as new characters coming
to Marvel Rivals.
Brandon Hurles (12:21):
Yeah, I'm
excited about this one.
Mark Trobough (12:25):
Blasting some
noise.
So we actually got a full on,uh, little character trailer for
, um, what's it?
Emma frost?
Uh, they, they dropped a nicelittle trailer for us sick and
of course, it's like everythingyou wanted.
And I've seen some of the someof the memes on there people
saying, oh okay, video gaming ishealing because of her actual,
actual outfit, one of thosereally uh revealing outfits and
(12:48):
stuff like that.
Uh, I don't, I think they saidit was like around 1700 credits
or whatever the in-game store isand something like that.
So obviously this is acharacter you're gonna have to
buy in the game, but yeah, ofcourse my rivals have been doing
really good game.
Brandon Hurles (13:00):
It's well,
normally you don't have to buy
the characters, you just buy thecostumes.
No, this is a new character.
Yeah, but they've added newcharacters for free, from what I
understood she wasn't for free,okay that must be something new
, then I'm not sure verbal uhapril 11th I must be new.
Yeah, because as far as I'maware, all the all the
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characters are playable.
You just let me try to doublecheck because I know I haven't
bought any of the new charactersyet and I've played all of them
that have came out so far.
But I could be wrong.
Mark Trobough (13:32):
Maybe it's a new
thing I thought I saw something
about them saying it was there,was, it was going to cost
something, but I can't rememberunless it was like a costume it
could be that revealing costume,because that's obviously but
that's all they show.
Okay, so let's say emma frost isdropping with it.
So is emma frost already in thegame or is it just a new
costume, because I thought Ididn't know she was in the game
(13:54):
or not?
To be honest, I haven't playedthe game in a hot second, so I
haven't played it in a minuteeither.
Brandon Hurles (13:59):
I can look it up
real quick uh, so uh.
Mark Trobough (14:03):
the emma Frost X
Revolution costume bundle will
go live in the shop on April11th when season two begins.
According to data pulled fromthe game, it will be an epic
rarity bundle that costs 1600units in the store, meaning it
will include the X Revolutionskin and MVP animation, a new
emote, a fresh spray andnameplate though the nameplate
won't be animated, so I don'tknow if that's just her as a
(14:27):
character.
It's just this costume, thatthey just her X Revolution
costume, but that's not going tobe her default.
But regardless, I don't knowhow much that is in real world
money.
Brandon Hurles (14:37):
I hate games, do
this, but yeah, to be fair, it
is a free to play game.
So I mean they at least get thejustification of doing it.
They got to make money somehow.
Mark Trobough (14:47):
Yeah, so pretty
much this goes live next Friday.
So one more week.
Essentially get new charactersand some tells me she's going to
be a really popular characterfor the next weekend.
Brandon Hurles (14:56):
I imagine I'm
still stuck on Squirrel Girl
when I play.
I can't get myself off of.
Mark Trobough (15:01):
I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know how
she's gonna play um, but I'msure, regardless she'll, she'll
be pretty popular.
For for a little bit I'm sure,I'm sure but I mean it's.
It's pretty obvious to see whyand that's why everyone's
talking about it.
I was like, oh wow, look, youdo something and people like
just will simp over your gameit's.
It's almost like sex sells.
(15:22):
We were saying that for a while.
I mean it does right it's kindof.
Brandon Hurles (15:24):
That's kind of
the truth it's.
It's almost like sex sells.
We were saying that for a while.
Mark Trobough (15:25):
I mean it does
right, it's kind of it's kind of
the truth, it's not not thehardest thing to kind of
understand why people.
People talk about that like notsurprisingly.
Uh, yeah, true, but as well aswe got our first major update,
uh, the monster wilds, uh whatthey're calling their title
update one, and apparentlypeople are having crashes and
(15:45):
connectivity issues with thisupdate, which is not what you
want to see for a game that'sit's doing pretty well, really,
really popular.
Brandon Hurles (15:52):
Yeah, here the
past like two months it came out
I imagine capcom is going toget this fixed pretty quick.
It's too big of a game for themto you know leave problems like
that hanging around so uh, sosome of the stuff they were
talking about.
Mark Trobough (16:04):
They say we've
confirmed that the game crashes
when you talk to Nata and selectSekka to trade items at the
village intermediary and thishas come from the Monster Hunter
status over on Twitter.
They say we've confirmed therankings for Arena Quest and
Challenge Quest includes sometimes which are either
fraudulent or the result of bugs.
(16:25):
They're working on that andthey say the previous report
monster under wilds onlineconnectivity connectivity issues
and um gameplay issues have nowbeen resolved.
This was all happening, youknow, earlier, earlier this
morning, primarily last nightinto this morning, but I mean
there's always the chance thatsome of these bugs could still
be around.
Potentially, if they were, theywere having these issues.
(16:46):
But they seem to like try tojump on this pretty quickly,
like they realize it's happeningand they're not like dragging
their feet to like get a, get apatch out and stuff.
So yeah, hopefully, you know fora lot of people later tonight
and stuff like that into theweekend, because you know the
weekend's always going to bewhen a lot of people are playing
games and stuff like that,especially with this new new
update.
You don't run into any new bugs, but I'm sure it's the
(17:07):
possibility you'd be on thelookout and stuff.
Brandon Hurles (17:08):
So hey, what's
up, it's always worth being
aware yeah, for sure, for sure.
Uh, how you both feeling, um, Ihave been much, much better
mark.
I think mark's doing all right,though no, I'm, I'm doing fine.
Mark Trobough (17:23):
I mean it's been
a busy week, but other than that
, I've been, I've been doingfine, I've been all over the
place, yeah, uh.
But yeah, on top of that, uh,we did get some news about some
n64 games on the switch toapparently getting some new
features, uh.
So what they stated is, uh, n64games on switch to will come
with new features likecustomized button mapping, a
(17:45):
rewind option and a retro filter.
And it's supposed to drop thesame thing.
Brandon Hurles (17:50):
They're adding
scan lines, from my
understanding, which is good.
Gives you the authentic way toplay the game.
Mark Trobough (17:58):
For all 34 games
that are on the NSO.
It should be effective all ofthem.
From what I understand, it'shappening the same day.
June 5th is when a lot of this,a lot of these updates are
coming.
So it's not always just stuff Ican't know, is it?
I can't remember?
Is this going to be just forthe switch too, or is this just
dropping the updates, droppingthe same day like this, all the
64 stuff?
Brandon Hurles (18:20):
yeah, the 64
stuff.
I can't say for sure, because Imean that's that makes sense,
like it's on the nso it wouldmake sense just to have it
across the board.
I think it would be across theboard of course the gamecube
stuff's going to be exclusive toswitch to, but the um 64 stuff
I assume is across the boardyeah, and then I guess in the
same breath they did come outand say, uh, for the switch to
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the gamecube will offer optionalCRT filters for GameCube games
if you want to play like that?
That's good.
I mean because a lot of peoplelike when I play.
Mark Trobough (18:51):
I prefer to play
my retro games with CRT.
To be fair, when you'reemulating retro games, these are
, like already default filters,so you could argue why did it
take you all this long?
But I guess better late thannever to get some of these
filters, if that's, if that'show you want to play it.
Yeah sure, it's similar, butit's still not the same thing,
it's it's not.
Brandon Hurles (19:10):
It definitely is
not replicate playing on a crt.
I personally don't like crtfilters.
Mark Trobough (19:17):
I prefer to play
on a crt for retro games but
it's not even the same because,like I remember playing on crts
and the scan lines are there butthey weren't really noticeable
like they are on an emulation.
It just doesn't feel the same.
Brandon Hurles (19:30):
Yeah, it's one
of those things where people
either love or hate it.
As far as filters, go.
Mark Trobough (19:35):
I never use CRT
filters.
Brandon Hurles (19:37):
Some games do it
better than others.
There are game collections outthere that do CRT filters pretty
good.
In other ones it just feelslike pretty chunked on where it
doesn't.
You just don't get the same,the same replication as playing
on an actual CRT.
Mark Trobough (19:52):
Yeah, but CRTs
are very quickly not really
there.
They're, they're going away.
Slowly but surely.
Stuff like that's gettingharder.
Brandon Hurles (20:01):
Yeah, I mean
every day there's another CRT
gone, but they are bigger thanthey've ever been in the retro
community, for sure.
Mark Trobough (20:08):
Because there's a
limited supply.
Now they're going to go awayeventually.
Brandon Hurles (20:11):
Yeah, there's
nobody manufacturing them
anymore.
Mark Trobough (20:14):
Get it while you
can.
People are hanging on even tothe worst models Because I mean
even the worst model CRTs you'revery limited on what you can
get now, but I mean so it's oneof those things.
In like 50 years, crts justaren't going to exist anymore.
Brandon Hurles (20:29):
Well, people
will always be repairing them
and keeping them up to date.
Yeah, but there's like so manyparts that that you're going to
be able to have and find andeventually there's a diminishing
supply and eventually around aslong as you can and keep it
maintained and take care of them, make sure you get them
serviced and and do everythingyou can, to you know, lengthen
(20:49):
the life of them, because theydefinitely have a much, much,
much longer lifespan than thanmodern tvs do.
Obviously, we've got I've got,you know a crt over here from
from 1986.
Mark Trobough (21:00):
That still works
just like it did then and here
we are, here we are, and I'vegot, I've replaced a new tv like
six different times in the past10 years.
Yeah, what's it?
Oh, six and ten, like I've hadmy tv for, bro you remember when
I broke this one.
Brandon Hurles (21:17):
This was
probably.
It was probably like fivemonths ago.
I was so irritated because Ihad just spent 1400 on the400 on
the TV, getting a nice OLED TV.
I don't know how it broke.
That's crazy.
I did nothing but turn the TVon.
I did nothing.
I never moved one time sinceI've owned it.
Mark Trobough (21:36):
I've had my TV
for eight years and it still
works just fine.
Brandon Hurles (21:39):
I have no idea,
I have no idea I got so
irritated that I didn't getanother good tv.
I just went with a crappy tvand called it a day, because I
now I game on my monitors mostlyanyway.
So like, really I didn't,didn't care as much as I once
did because I was gamingexclusively on a tv.
But now that I do pc gamingeven my consoles I play on a
(22:03):
monitor more often than notbecause of refresh rates and
stuff like that 1440p mode andstuff like that.
Mark Trobough (22:13):
What's that meme?
Will the modern TV be careful,you're going to break my TV.
Or with the old CRTs, becareful, you're going to break a
piece of furniture with thisthing.
Yeah, you drop your glass.
Brandon Hurles (22:23):
it doesn't break
, it just breaks your foot.
Mark Trobough (22:24):
Instead You're
like, oh my God this thing.
Yeah, you drop your glass, itdoesn't break it, just breaks
your foot.
Brandon Hurles (22:27):
Instead you're
like, oh my god, this thing is
heavy tech was just, it was uh,it was in the way, all in the
front of it, because that'swhere the glass was, so it would
always lean forward yeah, itwas just thing.
Things were definitely madedifferently back then.
Mark Trobough (22:42):
Look at the CRT
still lasting today and
meanwhile you've got, you know,modern TVs, that Even modern TVs
were to last like years, Likethe technology would be so
outdated with like eventuallyit's like you're gonna have to
buy a new TV.
Your games aren't going to workon it.
Brandon Hurles (22:56):
Yeah, I mean
like you think of like an early
LCD TV, like they look likeabsolute dog crap.
Mark Trobough (23:06):
Like even LCD
technology has come such a long
way.
I mean to be fair.
I've seen people like plug likea ps5 into like an old crt I've
done it obviously downgraded,I've got all the equipment to do
it I've plugged my ps5 into aportable handheld uh tv you can
always tell like how, like thescreen just getting cut off,
really bad half the time.
Brandon Hurles (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, for
sure, it's probably the
capacitors.
Those are always a problem.
Yeah, for sure, you always gotto get all your stuff recapped
your retro game systems, yourretro computers your CRTs.
Mark Trobough (23:39):
The real next
thing is how do you capture and
display old games or on a modernlike oled and lcd?
Essentially, when it comes tolike those old games, like, how
do, how can you like essentiallyemulate an lcd screen,
naturally on the display itself?
Brandon Hurles (23:57):
wait, say that
again.
Mark Trobough (23:58):
I'm sorry like,
instead of like having like a
just a screen on the software.
Like actually having like ahard tv with a hardware option
for like a just a screen on thesoftware.
Like actually having like ahard TV with a hardware option
for like a uh uh the LC toreplicate a CRT on a modern TV
the retro tank.
So no, like, not not like like,built into the TV itself.
Do you think that will ever bea thing?
Brandon Hurles (24:19):
I'll built into
it.
Probably not, because it's soniche upon niche Like that is a
niche of a niche, there's so fewpeople out there, I mean
obviously like retro gamers itmatters, but like for the modern
tv market, that probably makesup like 0.0001.
I don't know what they say, like29 that's what retro tanks are
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for a retro games, yeah I, but Imean, I don't know, but that's
what Retro Tinks are for.
They do that.
They replicate a CRT theclosest you can possibly ever
get to being able to play on amodern-day TV and it gets really
close.
Retro Tinks are really reallygood products, very good
products, even the new RetroTink 4Ks.
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I haven't got that one yet.
I do plan to upgrade to that atsome point, but I have the
RetroTINK 5X Pro and I can'trecommend it enough.
Mark Trobough (25:16):
It's the closest
replication that you'll ever get
of a CRT on a modern display.
I mean fair enough.
Brandon Hurles (25:19):
That's why
they're not cheap either, but
they do the job and they workvery, very well.
It's probably going to be theonly way that you're going to be
able to emulate that.
It's the only legit way to doit.
Anybody that's a hardcore retrogamer that wants to play on
modern hardware or modernscreens owns a RetroTink for
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sure.
Mark Trobough (25:41):
When we get to
the standard size of a tv is
like like 150 inches orsomething like that.
How will that blown up size?
Brandon Hurles (25:50):
well, that's
what the retro thing 4k is for.
It fixes that problem.
Mark Trobough (25:55):
I mean all right,
but like when you get 250
screens or something like that,and we're doing with like 250k
resolution, like I don't know,maybe we'll have the 256k
resolution retro tank out there.
Brandon Hurles (26:10):
I have no idea
we going crazy.
Mark Trobough (26:12):
You're bigger,
the better baby.
We love it, uh, some other,hopefully some good news there's
obviously, if you haven'talready heard, there's rumors,
uh that we may be getting aremake, uh, for elder scrolls,
for oblivion.
Brandon Hurles (26:24):
I don't know if
you heard anything about that oh
yeah, I think that's 100happening, but I'm I have zero
faith in them doing it correctlylike, oh my, like, how many uh
remakes of skyrim do we like?
Mark Trobough (26:37):
or remasters,
re-releases of that game?
It's like come on, like you'vegot older games that we would
want to play, and I thinkoblivion is made to be fair.
Brandon Hurles (26:44):
Oblivion is
supposed to be like a full-on
remake, not like a remaster orlike a legendary edition or like
anything like that without old.
The graphics are and some ofthe mechanics I still think
oblivion holds up very welltoday, I know it does, but like
if it would look maybe as goodas even skyrim or something a
little bit newer, I think, thinkthe game would benefit.
Mark Trobough (27:04):
For the games
that came out when 3D was still
trying to find its way.
It's that 360 era and stufflike that where some games look
good, some games.
Brandon Hurles (27:13):
Let me ask you a
question Are you a fan of
Morrowind at all?
Mark Trobough (27:19):
I want to like
the game, but there are some
game mechanics that I just don'tcare for.
Like I get why people like them, but like the whole uh rng
element of swinging a sword andwhether or not you're actually
going to do damage and hit isreally frustrating, either if
you didn't grow up with it oryou're just so used to how
modern games work so I have asuper hot take.
Brandon Hurles (27:41):
I think that
both morrowind and um oblivion
are both better than skyrim.
I just always felt that way.
Mark Trobough (27:49):
I played skyrim a
dozen times over and multiple
different versions I think thegame design for skyrim was like
the world design for it is isreally well, it's great.
It's a great game, it's just.
I think the only issue withskyrim is just the.
The game, like the combatmechanics were so simplified in
that game and it worked to itsbenefit and to its detriment in
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both ways.
As far as it it limited whatyou could do in the game.
It's outside of modding.
But it also was probably thereason that far more people got
into skyrim.
You know as a whole, yeah,together and stuff like that.
I don't because I think therethink there's pros and cons to
games being super, supersimplified and stuff like that.
Yeah, but then again I thinkthat that's the benefit because
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at this point, like, the game'sstill relevant, because the
modding scene is so much stuffyou can do with the game, yeah,
and you kind of got to the pointlike let's be fair, they're
going to this is I think this isthe way the studio is going to
go is they can make the gamekind of bare bones as far as
some of the mechanics, knowingthat the game's going to get
modded to hell essentially tofix all these problems, and you
can make it as simple or ascomplicated combat as you want.
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One of my big problems with itlike a dark souls S game for
some of the combat.
Brandon Hurles (29:07):
One of my big
problems with the whole oblivion
remake is the fact that theydecided they needed to go and
make a whole inclusive team ofdevelopers to work on the game
and and as if like everybody's,not a person can't we all just
like work on the game together?
Why do you have like your ownspecial inclusive team of people
with pink hair and blue hairand whatever?
(29:29):
Why can't we just all work onthe game?
Why do we need to have anall-inclusive DI team for
Oblivion?
That made me lose all hope andall of caring at all about that
game coming out.
I want to play that because Ilove oblivion, but like I just I
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mean, I just have so littlefaith in the company right now
that I guess.
Mark Trobough (29:55):
Well, after after
the other games, I will say
this obviously nothing has beenofficially announced for this.
This is kind of just officially,but it kind of has officially
been announced too I meanthey've edited, like, but a lot
of the xenomax own games havelike their steam page edited,
but this one like had a lot oftrailers and stuff removed and
stuff like that.
So some people are kind of like, I don't know, this is just
(30:15):
rumored, stuff like that.
So obviously we're stillwaiting for initial announcement
.
But the big thing obviously isare they gonna?
Are they gonna remove elementsof the game, whether it's the
story combat there?
Are they going to change howthe game was originally?
When people just want, yeah, youdeal with like these remakes,
like I just want a new coat ofpaint on the game, uh, I think
the voice acting could, coulduse a re-dubbing, but that's
just me.
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Yeah, obviously you can stillplay it as is.
So it's not.
If you can play the originalversion and the new coat of
paint, I would say there's a lotof mechanics need fixed.
I would also this might be ahot take redo a lot of the voice
acting and stuff like that.
Brandon Hurles (30:51):
It was pretty
dreadful.
Mark Trobough (30:53):
You didn't need
to fix some of the game
mechanics to just, you know,maybe not be as clunky as they
were back then.
Don't necessarily removeanything, just make it a more
smooth experience to play thegame and a new coat of paint
that make it a more smoothexperience to play the game in a
new coat of paint.
That's really all people want.
They don't want you likecompletely changing things and
stuff like that.
So I'm like, if you're going tomake the actual Imperial city
like actually feel like biggeror something like that, like if
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it's like a hole in, we're goingto not remove anything in
format, but we're going to add afar more actual content.
Make the world feel bigger andstuff like that.
I think to far more actualcontent.
Make the world feel bigger andstuff like that.
I think that would be a far.
If you're going to actuallyfully remake this game, I would
say, make oblivion actually feellike the actual size it should
actually be as a province, whichis, which is massive, and stuff
like that.
Yeah, and make these citiesfeel bigger.
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Don't do what they did in thatand skyrim these towns that are
supposed to be really big andthere's like 20 people that live
in them like actually go in andmake these cities feel like
cities and stuff like that, andjust add a bunch.
You're not removing but you'rejust giving far more content,
adding more quests, making theworld bigger and stuff like that
, because then people would Ifeel like people would be more
receptive to the game as aremake.
(31:57):
It's not just all.
They did the bare minimum andthey're charging us 70 for it.
Brandon Hurles (32:02):
There's also so
many games that essentially tie
into Oblivion as well, that weredifferent spin-offs that came
out over the years and stufflike Shadow Key.
Mark Trobough (32:12):
Yeah, but let's
be fair, Nobody's really played
those games.
Brandon Hurles (32:15):
Nobody's really
played those games.
But what I'm saying is they cantake, because nobody's played
those games.
They can take the lore and whatwas built up from those games
and add it into the game.
Mark Trobough (32:24):
No games, they
can take the lore and what was
built up from those games andadd them as a dlc.
Brandon Hurles (32:26):
No, just add it
into the game to give you a
beefier game and um, I feel likethey wouldn't do that.
They're just going to ignorethose games at this point,
because they were kind of I wishthey wouldn't, because there
were a lot of good games thatcame out that people just
unfortunately either didn't havea system for or just never knew
about, or they weren'tadvertised well.
Mark Trobough (32:45):
How many people
you know had the Engage, how
many people actually hadsomething like this?
It's crazy.
Brandon Hurles (32:51):
Not many, nobody
really played this game.
Yeah, not many had it, butthere's way more Elder Scrolls
games out there than peoplerealize and a lot of really good
stuff that I feel like peoplejust completely overlooked or
didn't have a way to play, orwhatever it might be.
Mark Trobough (33:14):
Yeah, because I
got the hot take, because I
liked a lot of the some of themechanics and the story and how
you could essentially killnon-essential MCPs in Morrowind.
But I absolutely dread theactual combat in that game.
It just it drives me up a walland it's one of those things
where it's like some peopleeither love it or hate it and it
was definitely a product of theera and just game designs.
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Just not how it was back then.
Brandon Hurles (33:41):
I mean, it's
definitely, it's definitely
different game.
The games industry has changedtenfold since then and um, you
know.
So I guess we'll just kind of Iguess see what happens to this.
Mark Trobough (33:53):
But I guess,
before you jump into the uh, the
other, I just want to say onething like let's be fair, like I
, I feel like a lot of people,they actually went, played like
arena and, uh, the second oldschool game I'm blanking on the
actual name of the game.
Those games are so far more.
Those are even more frustratingto go back and play now with
how they've aged well.
Brandon Hurles (34:13):
They're
different.
They're different types ofgames.
Mark Trobough (34:16):
As far as the
first, I think that you have
Elder Scrolls 1, 2, and 3 iskind of their own era and it
peaked with Morrowind.
As far as the gameplay,obviously the maps kind of their
own era and it peaked with morewind.
As far as, like the gameplay,obviously the maps kind of got
smaller, but it's the, the styleof gameplay was there and then
it kind of got a reset withoblivion and then to skyrim.
As far as, like, game designjust kind of changed from the
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old, probably more true to therpg mechanics, to just more
modern combat and yeah, becauseI mean like, like looking back
more, just like active combatessentially.
Brandon Hurles (34:47):
Like Arena and
Daggerfall are like such
different games than like any ofthe games that people know in
the Elder Scrolls series.
But like there's somedefinitely some bad ones in
there, like, for instance,redguard was not a good game at
all.
It's technically a spin-off.
It's technically a spin-ff.
It's technically a spinoff, butit's also technically a
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mainline game.
I mean, if you look at theactual timeline and the story,
technically it's a mainline game.
It is a quote-unquote spinoff.
But I mean, most of the ElderScrolls games are spinoffs that
people don't even know about.
Mark Trobough (35:21):
Yeah, but it's
one of those weird things you
know people talk about.
You know.
I think it started probably atleast with skyrim.
I think it's a lot of moderngaming, how people you're either
for or against fast traveling,but considering how large both
more uh, it's not more wind,it's daggerfall and arena apps
are they're.
They're designed around thefact that you kind of need, you
have to, fast travel in thosegames you're just trying to zoom
(35:42):
in.
Brandon Hurles (35:42):
When you're
talking, you keep keep changing.
Mark Trobough (35:45):
I I couldn't tell
.
Brandon Hurles (35:46):
No, I was trying
to put you on there so people
could see you, but uh I guess,before you move on, I'll go
ahead and uh show my pickupshere real quick, and I'm gonna
let mark kind of take the helmof the show today because I'm
just not feeling good and, uhhaving a hard time with my voice
.
So so I'm going to show what wegot.
(36:06):
Some of this was sent out fromcompanies.
A couple things were pickupsthat my friend got me at a
convention he went to when Iwasn't able to go because my
grandma's funeral, so he pickedup some stuff for me there.
I picked up a couple of thingstoday at GameStop and, yeah,
there's just a few random things.
I got two things that came inthat I ordered months and months
(36:29):
ago that finally came in.
There's some stuff to show here.
One thing I did want to actuallyannounce that I was really
bummed out to see as much aspeople have a love hate
relationship with GameStop.
Unfortunately, where I liveit's the only modern gaming
(36:51):
store, so like it's just it'sthe, it's like you know you're,
you're more likely to get, like,for instance, a console
pre-order there than you areonline, because just not as many
people are doing it.
Um, it's way easier for me togo in there and get a game day
one there than waiting onlinewhere it might not even come and
(37:12):
you know it might be importantfor streaming or whatever it
might be, with getting somethingthat day that it comes out, and
the pre-order bonuses and the,the sales and the, the five.
You know you get five dollars amonth, which might not seem
like a lot, but I still getsomething free out of it every
single month.
It pays for itself.
Mark Trobough (37:30):
And I also build
up the points.
I do hate for GameStop.
Brandon Hurles (37:33):
It does.
Mark Trobough (37:33):
It's like, oh
well, you're not going to buy it
because the whole.
It's like they're going to buya used game but they have to
resell it and make money and I'mnot going to get as much money.
I'm like, yeah, you can sell ityourself then, type thing.
Brandon Hurles (37:45):
That's what I do
.
Mark Trobough (37:48):
That's the undue
amount of criticism they get,
because I'm just like, oh, okay,yeah, if you're selling Madden
25, bro, no one's going to buythat game.
Brandon Hurles (37:55):
I'm not going to
straight up defend GameStop
because they've done somedeplorable things over the years
.
I deplorable things over theyears.
There's a lot of uh.
I appreciate being able to haveaccess to a store where I can
go pick up the game that I wantto get on day one or get the
pre-order bonus or the consolelaunches are huge because
(38:15):
because of GameStop, I was ableto get my series X day one.
Uh, because of GameStop, I wasable to get my PS five just two
days after launch.
Because of GameStop, you know,I was able to get my PS5 just
two days after launch.
Because of GameStop, I was ableto do all these different
things.
And my plan originally for theSwitch 2 launch was to go there
super early.
I was going to go probably five, six hours early for pre-order
(38:37):
day for the Switch 2.
Go there If I need to wait inline.
Wait in line to pre-order it,but at the same time I'm going
to have my phone ready to go totry to pre-order online too.
So I have double the chances ofbeing able to try to get it day
one and being able to talkabout it and cover it, you know,
right away and stuff like that.
So that was kind of my planuntil I happened to be walking
(39:00):
by GameStop today and saw thegiant sign, I actually took a
picture and I was like, well,you know, I said this really
sucks.
But honestly, in no way wasthis completely a surprise to me
, because I thought for surethis particular GameStop was
going to get shut down fouryears ago.
You know, I thought for surethat it was just done because
(39:22):
they were not like.
The sales were down, decliningmassively.
If it weren't for the um, thestonks for GameStop, I don't
think it even would be aroundright now.
For for my area and so my areais not the only one I was told
today that there were 280 storeclosures and there's more to
(39:43):
come that have not beenannounced yet.
So it's not just my game stop,unfortunately, but I do live in
a small town and, uh, there'sjust very limited availability.
The only other thing that's youknow, available for getting all
that brand new stuff is goingto be walmart, and obviously
it's just not the same.
Mark Trobough (40:02):
So yeah, I did.
I guess I did want to say so.
Like, uh, if any of you arestill even interested in stuff
like that, uh, nintendo is doingtheir own.
Uh, yeah, it definitely sucks.
Yeah, if you're trying to likepre-order it from nintendo, one
of the unique ways I guess theywere trying to combat uh,
botting and stuff like that is,uh, they had their own unique
(40:23):
take, if you kind of haven'talready seen it, and stuff like
that, which I think more peopleshould should.
I guess they couldn't doexactly when it did, but it's a
unique way, yeah, um, soobviously you need to be an
account holder and at least beolder.
Uh, and I think they said it'sonly one person per account.
So if you have, like, a familyaccount, whoever owns that
family account is the only onethat can use this pre-order
through their own site.
Brandon Hurles (40:43):
That's
completely fair, so that
everybody can get a console togo around.
Mark Trobough (40:49):
So they're going
to send out.
You just go in there and youregister.
They're going to send outinvites.
Well, their website still saysMay 8th.
I don't know if anything'sgoing to change.
Brandon Hurles (40:56):
It's still
coming out the same day, but
pre-orders are not happening thesame day.
Mark Trobough (41:02):
This is their the
way to invite people to allow
them to pre-order the game,essentially.
Brandon Hurles (41:05):
Yeah, I was
really upset because you sent me
that, but I had actually justgotten the notification about
that probably 30 minutes beforeyou sent it to me and I by
accident clicked the non-bundleversion.
Which why would I not want thebundled version and only pay 50
for mario kart versus paying thefull price?
(41:27):
So I unintentionally hit thatand you cannot go back once you
made the selection.
That was it.
Mark Trobough (41:33):
Yeah and it sucks
, I screwed up essentially
you're gonna receive it viainvites.
They say it's going to bedelivered on first come, first
serve basis and if you do getthis criteria, you have a whole
72 hours to essentially go andbuy the buy the console you got.
Brandon Hurles (41:51):
I was also going
to say to you um, if you get
the opportunity to be able toget two of the consoles somehow
some way, what I do, oh yeah,from this is this is only like a
one shot.
No, no, what I'm saying is, ifit's another, like Best Buy or
Walmart or something like that,if you are able to get a second
console, like for me, and viceversa, if I'm able to get a
(42:12):
second console for you, I'lljust straight up buy it.
You pay me, I pay you.
Whatever.
However, we want to do it justto make sure that we can both
secure a console right away.
I'm going to do that.
I want to go out of my way totry to make sure I get you and
if nothing else and you end upgetting yours, I'll just cancel
it.
You know, no harm, no foul.
Yeah, fair enough.
So I figure that's an easy wayto do.
(42:33):
It is, you know, if we end upsaying that you know one goes up
on best buy and one goes up onwalmart, I'll go on both and
I'll buy one from both and makesure that you get one.
Mark Trobough (42:41):
I mean, this will
probably be the the, the one
you find out the soonest ifyou're able to get this.
But uh, yeah, on top of it, theactual, they say, the priority
requirements are as follows.
So the one you must have beenthe only one to purchase any
nintendo, the one who purchasedthe nintendo switch online
membership.
You must have had any paidnintendo switch online
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membership for a minimum of 12months, which is the other way.
Brandon Hurles (43:05):
Essentially,
they're gonna.
Mark Trobough (43:07):
Could you this
going through the website?
It's linked to your actualaccount so they're gonna see you
can't just buy it now.
You had to have had this for atleast a full 12 months.
Be like, okay, this personactually plays their console and
use yeah, to be fair,playstation has started doing
that too.
Brandon Hurles (43:22):
They did it with
the launch for the ps5 Pro.
Mark Trobough (43:24):
Yeah, it's kind
of got to combat the botting
issue.
Brandon Hurles (43:26):
Yeah, it's the
best way to do it.
I mean, it's really like, ifyou think about it, there aren't
too many ways to fight the bots, and that's one good way to do
it is by making sure you arelinked to an account, you're
only able to get one of theconsoles and that's it, and that
you've had that account for acertain amount of time and
didn't just buy it two daysprior to be able to get it so
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they also said hey, you need tohave been opted in to share
gameplay data and have at least50 hours of total gameplay hours
to be like.
Mark Trobough (43:53):
Just because you
have it, you don't play it.
Like well, you don't play yourswitch.
And now you want to switch to?
Well, we want to.
You know somebody who at leasthas some amount of play time on
the actual switch and stuff likethat?
For sure, for sure.
Brandon Hurles (44:04):
I do think it's
a unique way.
Mark Trobough (44:06):
It's harder for
third parties.
Obviously can't do that, rightright.
Brandon Hurles (44:09):
More people are
willing to go into it.
It's the way to do it, and I dofirmly believe that the reason
that the Switch 2 got pushed offlonger than we thought as far
as release is because they weretrying to build up stock to help
combat this, because the onlyway to combat it is to have the
(44:30):
stock.
You know if you've got enoughstock and people pick up 50
copies of it and you know 50consoles, but there's still a
whole bunch of consoles outthere that people can buy.
Yeah, we've already fought it.
Now people are sitting on thoseconsoles that they can't sell.
Mark Trobough (44:51):
And I think it's
the easiest way to like combat
body and stuff like that is touh either aid, do some kind of
queue system and probably likesay hey for whatever site or who
you're going through.
Especially if it's digital, youneed to have an account and
it's like one per person.
Uh, but there is.
I could see where it's a littlebit.
You have to be be a little bitmore creative with third party,
with other retails, but the onlyother way some of these retails
could avoid the botting issueis to be like you have to buy it
in person and it's one perperson.
Brandon Hurles (45:12):
I'll tell you
what one website Now.
I haven't gotten through for asingle one of them,
unfortunately, and I've signedup for every single one.
But what I do, like that NewEggis doing, is they're doing
their NewEgg shuffle, so itgives everybody an equal
opportunity to all sign up forthe graphics card that they want
, the GPU that they want.
You go on there and you selectwhich ones you're interested in
(45:36):
and it's a random raffle.
It doesn't matter if you clickthe link first or you click the
link last.
It's like a four-hour openwindow.
You can sign up for this.
You'll get an email saying, yes, you got through for this, or
no, you didn't win this new eggshuffle and they've got them
going on like every day, everyother day and like that's.
I like that system as well,because it's completely random.
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It doesn't matter if you clickthe link first and salt first,
because, completely random, it'sa random.
Mark Trobough (46:04):
That's like a
unique way like how like a lot
of like events or likeespecially like some conventions
and stuff like that happen injapan is they'll have a general
sale, but before, before that,they might have like one or two
essentially uh guaranteedraffles.
So sometimes it's easier, youcan just create like 20 emails,
but essentially it's a rafflesystem to see who gets first
(46:24):
dibs at a guaranteed like ticketfor like a convention or
something else.
Uh, because that's what uh likewhen I was in, when I was in
japan at hall live and stufflike that, that's kind of how
they did.
The first thing it was they hadtwo goes about, essentially a
raffle for their concerts andthe actual like expo type thing,
and then after that it was a uhsale which sells out in a
(46:45):
matter of minutes.
Yeah, on top of the sites goingdown, it's kind of sold out.
So it's like the onlyguaranteed way you're going to
get anything is if you get in onthis raffle.
And it's also weird becausethey've got like a specific site
outside of Japan and they'vegot stuff for inside of Japan as
well.
Brandon Hurles (46:59):
So yeah, but
it's a unique way to combat, to
get people.
Mark Trobough (47:05):
It's like like,
hey, we're gonna do a general
raffle for x amount of tickets.
If you get in, great, if not,you can try your hand at general
admission, but it's probablygonna sell out before you're
able to even get through thewhole.
Brandon Hurles (47:13):
You know process
, even the way that they did the
switch to experience stuff, howit was completely just like a
raffle yeah, that's a very badthing.
The whole uh gotcha systemmechanics is like a real thing
like you had to have an account,you had to be a member, and it
was a complete just draw raffle.
Everybody had the same amountof chances.
(47:35):
So, like I like that system, itfeels more fair than as many
emails you wanted to create forthe r yeah I mean, well, the
thing with the nintendo switchto experience stuff is that you
had to have a registered.
Mark Trobough (47:52):
Yeah, you had to
have had but like verified
registered buddy has the abilityto do something like that.
Brandon Hurles (47:59):
If it's not like
a first party thing, no, like
you know, your third partysellers, like your walmart's,
and your best buys and yourtargets aren't going to be able
to do it in the same way, Idon't think they care either.
Mark Trobough (48:07):
I don't think
they care.
Brandon Hurles (48:09):
But it isn't
that hard for them to get q
systems, because now I know youhaven't been following any of
the stuff for the 50 series gpus.
But best buy now has a q systemas well, so you have to get
queued up to get through on bestbuy for the gpus so apparently
it's like let me know where I'min the queue to be like, do I
even have?
A they don't let you know.
(48:29):
They don't let you know whichis so frustrating.
Mark Trobough (48:31):
Because it is
frustrating, you get number five
, you could be at five thousand,you'll wait you could be
waiting for 15 minutes only forit to say sold out.
Brandon Hurles (48:38):
You know, that's
the one thing it sucks, but I
will say is better than havingthese bots buy all this stuff up
.
Mark Trobough (48:45):
I think the other
issue with the queue system is
I think they also do it because,like, if you have everybody
going to the site, especiallylike probably a lot of bots, it
bogs down and just crashes thesite like a DDoS attack.
So they the queue system iskind of way to limit the, the
load that's happening on theiractual main, on their main page.
Brandon Hurles (49:03):
They do have a
lot of these websites, do have
detection software now with alot of these bots and are able
to tell.
Mark Trobough (49:09):
Well, because you
can't tell whether it's a bunch
of bots trying to buy something, or you're just getting a
general DDoS attack as far as,like the IT system, it all looks
the same, essentially, becausethat's essentially what a DDoS
attack is.
Brandon Hurles (49:20):
Yeah, I think
it's getting better.
It's definitely better than itwas when the PS5 launched and
the Series X launched.
Mark Trobough (49:29):
The only reason I
got lucky is I got the invite
from Sony.
That's the only reason I gotlucky with the PS5.
Brandon Hurles (49:32):
This GPU 50
series launch is the worst
launch I've ever seen in thehistory of anything with
pre-ordering or with just beingable to freaking get one right,
even as expensive as they are.
It is still a problem, it doesnot matter.
So I say it's gotten better.
It has in some ways.
(49:54):
I think Nintendo has gottenbetter about it.
I think certain websites suchas Best Buy has gotten better
about it, but in general, I dothink that there is still a big
problem because this gpu launchhas been an absolute nightmare
for people.
I mean, it has just been a it's, it's a crap show man.
(50:15):
It truly is a crap show, likeyou know there.
It's just it's insane thatpeople are these bots are able
to get through so much thatthey're literally selling these
GPUs and these are like soldprices, not asking prices for
like $4,500 on eBay, and peopleare paying it because they can't
get through to quarter one.
(50:35):
But GPU, as Mr Coffey said, gpusales have been an issue since,
I would say probably like the30 series.
Definitely don't remember muchabout there being a problem with
like the 20 series, but the Ithink around the 30 series is
where it became a problem, butit really became a problem with
the 40 series.
(50:55):
The 49 specifically, you knowthe 40, 90 was, I will say, will
probably go down as like thebest video card that we've
gotten in the last, you know, 20years, I think.
Besides, like the 10, 10, 80 TI, I think 10, 80 TI and 40, 90
go down as as being like some ofthe best, most improved upon
(51:16):
GPUs, most worthwhile GPU.
That's why, still right now,you go on eBay and they're still
selling for $2,500 used.
So there's a reason for that,because they're very good GPUs.
So it's because of Mr Coffeeand a couple of other people
(51:38):
that I decided not to juststraight up right away sell my
49.
I want to hang on to it for alittle while.
Make sure I'm good with the5090,.
Make sure that I don't have anyproblems with it.
Make sure I've got a backup fora little bit.
I don't have any problems withit.
Make sure I've got a backup fora little bit.
I don't have any connectorissues.
I don't have any driver issues.
I don't have any.
You know, whatever it might be,I'm going to hang on to it for
a little while.
I'm not going to hang on to itfor good because they are still
(51:59):
selling.
It'll pay for essentially myentire price of my 5090 by
selling the 4090.
So I'm not going to hang on toit for good.
I didn't want to hang on to itlong enough to where I feel
comfortable enough with the 5090that I don't think there's
going to be any problems andthings like that.
You just, you never know what'sgoing to come up when it comes
to pc gaming.
They're always, you know therecan always be a problem, so you
(52:21):
could just get a bad gpu, youknow, for you know yeah just how
it goes.
So, but, uh, I guess, uh, beforeyou move on to the next thing,
I'll go ahead and show off whatI got.
Um, start off with, uh,something really, really small
here, uh, that I got fromgamestop this is actually the
other day.
So, um, go check your gamestops.
These are really cool.
If you, um are a pokemon fan ora xenoblade fan, definitely,
(52:45):
definitely, you have to ask.
They're behind the counter,they're not displayed, so people
don't even know these exist.
I posted on Twitter and peopleare like that's a thing.
But there's actually a card forXenoblade Chronicles X.
It gets you a whole pack ofstuff.
So it's a download code thatyou can get free there at
GameStop that comes with a bunchof stuff and then, um,
(53:06):
obviously they do these all thetime, but this is for Pokemon
Day 2025.
It is a few months old, but Igot a second one just to add to
the collection, one I used formy game and then one I want to
keep on scratch just to add tothe collection, but it's the
flying, uh, terra type Eevee.
So it's a pretty good card too,um, but yeah, I mean, if you
(53:26):
got Xenoblade Chronicles X,absolutely ask for this, cause
you get a whole pack of stuffplus a hundred thousand credits
in the game, which is crazy.
And this is, it's free, youknow.
Mark Trobough (53:36):
I say jokes on.
You already got my flyingPikachu.
Brandon Hurles (53:45):
No flying Ev
Mark.
I got a flying Pikachu.
Mark Trobough (53:47):
You can have a
flying Eevee too, mark.
Nah, I'm good, he's trash.
Brandon Hurles (53:49):
You did pick up
Xenoblade Chronicles X, so when
you go back in there, make sureyou ask for this.
Mark Trobough (53:54):
I don't know if
that was part of the pre-order
originally.
Brandon Hurles (53:56):
It wasn't a
pre-order thing, it was just you
had to ask for it.
It's still in the back of mygame, my game still makes you
ask for this and put it inbefore it expires, Cause you get
a lot of stuff from this andit's free, so uh what you're
going to charge for it, it, uh,it comes with, uh, four
different sets of things thesupport package plus a hundred
thousand credits, which which isquite a bit for the game.
(54:18):
So, definitely, definitely askfor that for sure.
All right, so I got this cool,nifty little bag today at game
stop, trying not to crunch it upagainst the mic, but this is oh
yeah, my game stops like, hey,we got a bunch of these we have
to get rid of by like, withinlike a few days.
Mark Trobough (54:33):
Yeah, they're
like trying to like get rid of
those they just showed it to.
Brandon Hurles (54:36):
I've never even
seen it before until today.
Mark Trobough (54:38):
I don't know if
they were using it, but because
I was at my game stop the otherday, uh, and they were like, oh
yeah, like we got a bunch ofthese bags we have to get rid of
by x-men I asked them or throwthem in the trash yeah, I asked
for one to keep to put in thecollection.
Just that's crazy, becausethere's another dude I was in
the store.
He's like I'll take a bunch ofhim.
He gave me like probably like50 bags like you're taking, like
I'm gonna ask for more when Igo back in because I like them.
Brandon Hurles (54:56):
but they also
gave me this one, uh, that I
didn't use.
That was folded up.
It's a Spider-Man 2 bag.
This is an older one, obviously, and I do actually already have
a couple of these.
But he said, hey, do you wantthis too?
And I said, yeah, I'll takeanother one, why not?
They're cool bags, coolcollection pieces.
I'm a collector so I got to getmy bags, got to catch them all.
(55:23):
I don't know if you guysremember or not, but I did show
this off on social media and onthe podcast.
But when silent hill remakelaunched, they came out with
these grip sets and each storeonly got like two to four of
them.
Well, for some reason I boughta set of them.
They're're $15 at launch.
For some reason, they had oneof these just hanging up that
(55:47):
were not sold and I looked at itbecause I was thinking I'd get
another one.
I use them.
So I wasn't just keeping it asa collection piece.
I actually use them.
They're on my controllers.
But I looked at the back of itand they're limited edition.
They're not being made anymorebecause the game's not new.
But I looked at the back of itFive bucks.
They were $5.
(56:07):
So I was like, yeah, I'llabsolutely grab those.
I don't know if you knowanything about controller grips
the thumbstick grips but they'renot cheap.
Normally $15 for one set ofgrips for a controller From
Control Freak, because I gotthem on all mine.
I'll show you I put them on allof my controllers, every single
(56:30):
one.
I'm like, right here I havecontrol freak, these are from
like 2020.
I've had these forever and I'veeven got an otterbox case for
my uh.
This is an actual otterbox casefor uh xbox controllers.
I own a couple of these too.
They were like 15 bucks whenthey came out or something, but
they're they just make yourcontroller way more comfortable.
Did you say otter box?
Otter box?
Mark Trobough (56:51):
yeah, it's the
craziest thing.
It's the craziest thing.
That's like they make phonecases.
Yeah, they're not cheap phonecases, they're not well, these
aren't cheap either.
Brandon Hurles (56:59):
This feels like
these are high quality, like
they really.
They make the, the controller,feel more, even more premium
than they already are, likethey're really cool for some
reason I've always used them forlike the back of my phone.
Yeah, exactly, for some reason,they only make them for xbox
series x controllers, butthey're.
They're really good likethey're.
They have these grips here thatjust make it feel super
(57:21):
comfortable in your hand.
Plus, it protects yourcontroller.
Like um, for instance, like acontroller like this, the
see-through blue one, one that Iwanted to protect.
I wanted to make sure that Igot the caps on there to protect
the thumbsticks and put this onthere to protect the controller
, because I know, likeeventually down the road, this
will be valuable.
Plus, it'll just be acontroller I'll want to be able
(57:41):
to use for an extended period oftime.
I really like their cypherseries of see-through
controllers, so yeah definitelypretty cool there, but yeah, I
mean five bucks for this, I meanstill, you get three of them
too, so three sets of themreally really cool and they're
comfortable.
I got them on several of mycontrollers already, so
definitely cool and you're wronggot this for free.
(58:05):
He just said, uh, he's.
I said, hey, you got any promostuff that you're going to be
throwing away because they're?
You know they're closing downand stuff like that.
He's like, well, we can't evensell this because it's we can't
even sell it because it's notworth anything.
But they just threw it in forfree madden 2005 for the uh,
original xbox, but, but it'scomplete.
What's hilarious about this,though, is that the front says
(58:29):
$10.
But yeah, they said it waspriced so low in their system
that they couldn't even sell it,so he just handed it to me.
Mark Trobough (58:40):
I'm not going to
lie, it's pretty much a
worthless game.
Brandon Hurles (58:42):
But what's,
funny is.
I have a ton of Madden gamesfor the original Xbox and PS2.
And this is one I didn't have,so I was like, ok, that's cool,
I think it's free, that's forthe one for the collection.
Yeah, one for the collection,why not?
And then that's all I got inthat bag for this.
Mark Trobough (59:00):
And it was free.
Brandon Hurles (59:10):
So you for this
and it was free.
So you know I can't get wrongwith that.
Yeah, it's free.
I mean, if nothing else, forpeople that don't collect sports
games, you get a free case toswap out for.
You know a game that needs acase or whatever.
You know stuff like that.
Yeah, okay, we got some stuffin from cricks, a few things
here.
There are a few things I don'thave over here at the moment
because I've got them put overthere.
So there was a few other thingsthat came as well that I don't
(59:32):
have.
That I can show right now.
But Krix makes the EverDrivesand also some other accessories.
They are my favorite retrovideo game company period.
I think EverDrives are the bestvalue in retro gaming.
Just pardon, it's my favoritefavorite retro gaming company
period.
I just think that the everdrives and stuff they make is
(59:55):
just absolutely excellent.
They they put out nothing butquality stuff.
So I was definitely super happyto get another package from
them, but I got a.
This is the second one because Iown two uh siget master systems
, so I've got one for each.
But this is a clear.
I haven't opened it up out ofthe package yet, but it's a
(01:00:16):
clear, see-through mastereverdrive x7.
It's actually um smoke clear soI can see through the whole
cartridge.
Obviously it's got theprotective stuff on it still,
because I haven't taken it outto use it yet, but it is a clear
cartridge so it's really reallycool.
Big, uh bigger sega mastersystem fan, so I was really
excited about that.
(01:00:36):
Um, always good to have anotherone, since I've got a model one
and model two.
I've got an everdrive for bothof them now.
Um, so I don't even have toworry about taking them out
anymore, and then I'll just showone of these.
I did get two of these.
These are the cricks joyscontrollers.
So these controllers arewireless wireless sega genesis
(01:00:59):
controllers that work onoriginal hardware.
Really really cool.
Um, I've got a few of these now.
I absolutely love them.
It's how I play my Sega Genesison any of the Sega Genesis
consoles that I have, but it isa six-button.
It is a replication of thesix-button fighting-style
controller, so it's got the sixbuttons there.
(01:01:20):
Very clicky, very nicecontroller.
I really like the Joy'scontrollers.
I don't hear people talk aboutthese controllers like much at
all, so I'm super happy to beable to showcase these because I
think they're excellent.
They're budget friendlycontrollers, they're cheap and
they, they do the job.
I mean, they, they, they reallyare pretty good controllers and
(01:01:41):
especially for being wirelessand six button controllers, you
know, you just can't go wrong.
I think they're like 15-20bucks.
They're, you know, veryaffordable and if you're a Sega
Genesis fan, those are, I think,must have for any Sega Genesis
fan.
So those are those from Krixand then you can't go wrong.
Mark Trobough (01:02:05):
There it's.
It is definitely really dopeyeah for sure.
Brandon Hurles (01:02:14):
All right, so we
got another box here.
So, uh, I guess I'll go throughum with some of these.
So first this came in, I thiswas on back order.
Uh, I ordered it about three orfour months ago.
It was on back order for the umgamecube.
It was one of the last threethings that I need for the
ultimate um gamecube setup thatI'm working on, and that is the
(01:02:38):
memcard pro gc.
So if you don't know what thememcard pros are, they are
essentially the last memory cardthat you will ever need for a
console.
So the way they work is thatyou can put an sd card in and
obviously you remember how theblocks work on like gamecube
memory cards, right.
Like you know, you could getlike a 256 block card right,
(01:03:00):
which at the end of the day,actually really didn't hold as
much as you think it would.
Well, you can throw in like a64 gigabyte micro SD card in
this and you are good forever.
I mean that covers every singleGameCube game multiple times
over with multiple saves.
You know what I mean.
So you plug the SD card intothis and let me actually grab
(01:03:23):
the unit, because I put it in myGameCube.
Mark Trobough (01:03:29):
You got to run
and grab it real quick.
But yeah, GameCube was such agood system with such good games
on it.
What was that?
So?
The GameCube was such a goodsystem with some really good
first party games on it.
Brandon Hurles (01:03:40):
Oh yeah, I wish
I could bring over the GameCube
to show you right now becauseI'm almost finished with the
ultimate setup for it.
I got two more items now sincethis came that I need for it.
But, um, this is the memcardpro gc.
It's got a screen on it,multiple buttons, so you can
actually go through the memorycard and select your different
blocks and stuff on there.
But I also have the memcard protw 2s for the PlayStation 2 and
(01:04:05):
PlayStation 1.
I have one of each.
I've got one for my PS2 and onefor my PS1.
So I'm a big fan of 8-bit modsand the products that they put
out.
This is well worth the price.
You'll never need anotherGameCube memory card ever again.
They even advertise it asunlimited blocks because it's as
(01:04:26):
big of an SD card as you wantto put in and if you know the
GameCube, they really don't takeup that much blocks.
So a micro SD card versus a 256block card for the GameCube is
like uncomparable Like you couldfit every single game in the
entire library multiple timesover on one of these and you
(01:04:47):
would never need another memorycard again.
So this is a really, really coolitem.
I still got to set it up, getan sd card for it, but it's got
it's wi-fi enabled andeverything so that you can
actually save your saves on yourdesktop computer as well.
So you've got like a backup ofa backup.
You know what I mean.
So, like you can save yoursaves forever, like there's
(01:05:10):
saves you can have with youforever.
You can save them multiple waysand I've already got like a
bunch of stuff backed up on myPS2 MemCard Pro 2.
But, yeah, you can have likethe cloud saves where you can
access all of these in the cloudand have your save for the rest
of your life.
So it's a really, really neatthing.
It's I think it's I want to sayit's around $50 and it is well
(01:05:32):
worth the price of it.
I mean, the technology in thisthing is just phenomenal.
So this was one of the last, oneof the last things I needed for
the ultimate setup.
I've got two more items.
I need to get that done andthen I can finally film that
video.
That is a video that'sbasically been in the process of
(01:05:52):
making for almost three years,because I've had to track down
all the different accessoriesfor it and, as you know, I was
tracking down the wacky stuffand the over-the-top yeah, not
the easiest thing.
The speakers took a long, long,long time to find.
Um, those were not not an easyfind at all, so, but yeah.
So this is one of the things andI guess one of them that I
(01:06:15):
share, because people openlyknow that I am looking for it.
So if you know anybody that hasone or you're getting rid of
one, get in contact with me,because I've been looking for it
now for years.
But I'm looking for thegamecube keyboard controller
that was made for fantasy staronline, um, but that is one of
the uh wacky accessories I needfor the, the gamecube, to help
(01:06:36):
finish off the set and to beable to make this video, because
it's a.
It's a long time coming on thisvideo and I'm I'm doing it for
every single retro console, sonot just for GameCube.
It just happens to be that I amthe closest to being done with
GameCube and it's what I startedfirst.
So, just because I'm sopassionate about the GameCube, I
love that system so much,there's so many good games for
(01:06:59):
it, it's such a great console.
I love the GameCube so much itwas the first system that I
wanted to do that for.
Just because I love it.
It's like one of the systems Igo back to the most.
So, yeah, this was really cool.
I think I ordered this like fouror five months ago and it
finally came in.
It was on back order.
My one regret is not orderingmore than one of these.
(01:07:22):
I should have ordered two,because I'm getting another
GameCube to do the other modthat came in a while ago, the
Flippy Drive.
So I'm going to have twoGameCubes to use and that's one
I'm going to do myself.
It's a mod I'm going to domyself because it's very
user-friendly and anybody can doit essentially.
(01:07:42):
But I do wish I had ordered onemore.
So if there happened to comeback in stock, I will pick up
one more of these, just like Ipicked up two of the Memcar Pro
2s, one for the PS1, one for thePS2.
So definitely cool, and itmatches my Indigo GameCube, so
that's pretty cool.
Mark Trobough (01:08:00):
Can't get wrong
with that or any of that.
Really, yeah for sure, sure,anything for the ultimate game
cube experience, which justmeans I need to spend all this
money so you can play fantasystar online and I do play it.
Brandon Hurles (01:08:14):
I plan on
dreamcast and gamecube and now
xbox, because I've got my xboxhooked up, uh online at all
times obviously the gamecube'sthe superior experience it is
because it did get the.
It got all the.
So there's a version of fantasystar episode one and two plus
that has all the additionalcontent on it.
So, like, technically speaking,it's the best way to play out
(01:08:37):
of the xbox or dreamcast justbecause you have that extra
content.
But it's also a much moreexpensive game, much more rare
and harder to find that plusversion.
But uh, then I got this otherbox of stuff, which was stuff I
completely even forgot wascoming out, and this all goes
towards ultimate setups forother consoles as well.
So this is really really,really cool, um, super happy
(01:09:00):
about this.
So one of these will actuallygo to the gamecube setup.
I do already have all fourcontroller ports filled, because
that was that was part of theplan, was?
You know?
I have four controllersconnected that are wireless, but
I'm going to remove one of themand I'm going to add this bad
boy in.
So this was sent out to me fromuh, retro time.
This is from 8-bit mods andthis is the blue retro gamecube
(01:09:24):
adapter.
So what this is is you plug thisin there.
It's bluetooth.
You can use any bluetoothcontroller with your gamecube
that you want.
So, whatever you want to playit with, whether it be a ps5
dual sense or you know, awireless n64 controller,
whatever you might want to playit with you, you could play with
this it's.
It's really cool becausethere's a lot of people that
(01:09:45):
want to bring over things likedifferent fighting sticks or
things like, uh, you know thexbox controller and stuff like
that, uh, but yeah, so this is areally cool adapter that allows
you to plug into your originalgamecube console and then bring
over whatever bluetoothcontroller that you want to
bring over.
Definitely a really cool piece.
(01:10:06):
This one came in orange.
I don't know what Mark's doing.
He's Mark, mark.
Boat goes bented.
Mark Trobough (01:10:14):
Boat goes bented.
Brandon Hurles (01:10:16):
I'm confused.
Mark Trobough (01:10:18):
Any GG fans out
there If you know.
You know, Guilty Gear, noVTuber.
Oh my God.
Brandon Hurles (01:10:28):
That's why I
said, if you know, you know,
like guilty gear, no vtuber, ohmy god.
That's why I said, if you know,you know, if you know, you know
.
But yeah, this is really cool.
So, speaking of that, this isthe gamecube version of that
from blue retro uh, retro timeslash 8-bit mods, also sent out
to Nintendo 64.
So this is really good timingof this, because we obviously
(01:10:49):
know about the analog 3D comingout and so this will be perfect
for that, because I'll have allthe controller slots for that
all filled up as well.
But they sent out two differentcollared Nintendo 64 and 64
controller adapters as well, soyou can bring over your
bluetooth.
What's what's actually reallycool about these two mark is
(01:11:10):
that what people actually dowith these two to still play
with an original controller isthey buy the nintendo switch
online n64 controller that'sbluetooth and they connect it to
this to have a wirelessoriginal controller.
So it's actually a pretty greatidea, right?
So I'm actually thinking aboutordering a couple of extra of
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those.
So I have a couple of wireless64 controllers that I can play.
You know how it was originallyintended, but wireless and not
have to worry about the wires.
But that was really cool thatthey sent two of these out for
the 64 and they also sent outone for the sega dreamcast,
which is really cool too.
So got one for the segadreamcast and, uh, really
(01:11:55):
excited about all these, beingable to try them out, bring over
weird controllers that werenever made for the system to try
out, or like different fightingsticks or different fight pads
or different arcade sticks,whatever it might be.
Anything it's bluetooth you canbring over and attach to this,
so there's a lot of options outthere.
Um, I know people that usebluetooth keyboards because, um,
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fantasy star online for thesega dreamcast they had a.
You know, obviously I had akeyboard.
I've got a sega dreamcast.
Mark Trobough (01:12:24):
I don't think
they make those old keyboard
connectors anymore, it's all usbor bluetooth.
You don't talk about the, the,the circle connector.
That was like the ps2.
Brandon Hurles (01:12:36):
Yeah, whatever
it's called yeah, you know, ps2
adapter, but yeah, um, yeah, no.
So there's.
There's a lot of stuff peoplebring over Bluetooth keyboards,
you know, for games like that,you know, and stuff like Typing
of the Dead or whether it bePhantasy Star Online or
different games that you knowrequire a keyboard and stuff
like that.
And so I've also got two morereally, really cool things here.
(01:13:01):
So these go towards my ultimateNES setup and this is the NES
hub from Retro Time.
So you might ask what is theNES hub?
Well, in case you didn't know,on the bottom of your NES there
is this slot area that was neverused for anything, because we
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never got anything here to useit with right, because the
famicom got the famicom thissystem and obviously got this to
tell of you, but we didn't getanything over here, where they
plan to, you know, leave a spotopen and, yeah, nothing ever
came out.
Well, this nes hub I, my ns, isplugged up so I can't bring it
(01:13:45):
over here to show you, butbasically on the back of it
there's the adapter port wherethey would have added something
right for you know, an expansion, whatever it might be, like the
famicom disk system idea, orthis teleview.
This plugs right into that andfits discreetly right on the
bottom of your NES and this doesa bunch of things.
(01:14:05):
So, like I can't even remembereverything that this does.
To be honest with you, I knowthat this brings over you can
use.
This adds Bluetooth to your NES, which is pretty crazy.
So Bluetooth capabilities.
This adds let me look up tomake sure I say everything
correctly, because I know itadds quite a bit of
functionality.
It's pretty crazy what the whatpeople are doing with this,
(01:14:29):
this retro hardware in 2025.
It's just it's really reallycool stuff and to be able to see
is I know that one of thethings is it adds the expansion
audio so you can get stereoaudio, like the famicom could do
.
Um, the nes is notorious,obviously, for having the mono
audio and not having like goodaudio.
So this brings over that thatfamicom stereo audio to your nes
(01:14:54):
so you can hear the glorioussoundtrack, the way it really
should have sounded to beginwith.
But uh, looking on here to totell you everything that this
does.
So this obviously only works onthe nes 001.
So the original um, theoriginal nes, not not the um nes
junior or anything like that.
Uh, but so what this does isyou're able to connect up to
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four controllers on the consolethrough the use of a single hub
hidden away under the console.
Not only that, but you canstill use the original ports
simultaneously for sharinginputs on a single player game.
The NES hub can enable expansionaudio, a special mode that
allows some Famicom games to usemore audio channel for a better
(01:15:40):
audio experience.
Finally, it exposes three portsfor future add-ons that can
make use of the CPU controlleror other functionality.
For example, our firstavailable add-on, snes add-on,
allows you to connect youroriginal SNES wired controllers,
play your NES games with them.
So obviously a lot of peopleprefer myself included the Super
(01:16:03):
Nintendo controllers over theNES controllers, and what they
actually included in here wasone of the attachments that they
planned for the NES hub, whichwas this here.
I'll open it up here.
So what this did was this is oneof the expansion ports that
they said they were going to beadding future stuff for is one
of the expansion ports that theysaid they were going to be
(01:16:23):
adding future stuff for.
It allows you to play your NESwith Super Nintendo controllers
because, I mean, let's be real,they're superior controllers.
You know, I like the NEScontroller, but I like the Super
Nintendo controller a lot more.
But this is one of theexpansions that they added for
the NES hub that lets you playwith Super Nintendo controllers.
(01:16:44):
So that's really really cool.
But that was one of the things.
And there are also future ideasthat they have for this NES hub
to be like kind of an all-in-onehub to add different mods to
the NES without actually evenhaving to mod your system.
It's literally plug-and-play.
So also, it looks like there isweb config is only available if
(01:17:10):
no controller is connected,supported only in chrome browser
.
Uh, you can update the firmwarevia web config, which is pretty
cool.
And then it says for theadd-ons um, if you want to use
an add-on, connected to thecorresponding add-on port on the
NES hub with the provided cable, the control add-on allows use
(01:17:31):
of SNES controllers on the NES.
Additionally, famicomperipherals that use the 15-pin
Famicom expansion.
So on the side of this, thisactually has the Famicom
expansion port right on the sideof it too.
So not only does it add thefunctionality for the Super
Nintendo controllers, but alsothe Famicom expansion port right
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here, mark, if you payattention.
Mark Trobough (01:17:58):
Just ignore it,
I'm just over here riffing.
Brandon Hurles (01:18:01):
I don't even
know what's going on, oh man,
but yeah, so that.
Mark Trobough (01:18:06):
You were just
going on a roller coaster like
that, so I was letting you go.
You were there on the hubweren't you you wish.
Brandon Hurles (01:18:13):
All right, so
the last thing that we got.
So my buddy Matt Long he's gota YouTube channel.
He's been on the podcast beforeMark has met him, but he went
out to a convention that Iwanted to go to but didn't get
to go to because my grandmapassed away, unfortunately, and
the funeral was that day.
(01:18:34):
So he did message me and askedif I was interested in a few
things there.
So I sent him some money topick up a couple things and I
was actually shocked to see whathe found for one of them.
Now I already have this.
As Mark knows, I used it as oneof my computer monitors for a
very long time, for forever, andI still have it boxed up in my
(01:18:58):
closet now to keep for 3D gameson the PS3.
But I wanted to get another oneand I've got this grandmaster
plan.
I want to collect a few ofthese complete in box, because
I've got an idea in the futureof what I want to do with these.
I think they are absolutelyphenomenal products, for you
have to think these came out inlike 2012,.
(01:19:19):
They're 240 Hertz monitors,they're 3D with simultaneous 3D
technology, so each person seesthe full screen in 3D, versus
doing a half and half deal,which is crazy already.
Crazy technology to think.
If you think about it for thetime, it gets nuts.
And I'm a big fan of 3D videogames.
(01:19:40):
I've collected a bunch of 3DPS3 and Xbox 360 games, so I'm a
big fan of them.
I like playing them in 3d.
I don't think it's gimmicky atall.
I think a lot of them do itvery well and a lot of people
don't even know about them.
A lot of people don't even knowthat the PS three and three 60
had 3d video games.
But yeah, so right here behindme I'll pick it up and show you
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guys.
Mark Trobough (01:20:12):
Yeah, he had that
.
For what forever?
It's crazy you're still usingthat old of a monitor for that
long.
It's a thick boy right therethat is my second one.
Brandon Hurles (01:20:29):
So right now, my
plan for it right now is what I
want to do is leave one out ofthe box and leave one in the box
, because I have a future plan Iwould like to get.
I would like to get two more ofthese, preferably complete in
box if possible, but even ifthey're loose, I want to get two
more of these because I'mworking on a future project.
(01:20:50):
It's something that I have hadplanned out, that I've wanted to
do for a very long time.
I don't want to announce itright now, but it is a project
for the community and it's notabout me.
It's about the community andabout other people and about
video game preservation.
But I would like to get twomore of these to have set up for
(01:21:12):
a certain thing that I want todo.
So I want to showcase, becausemost people don't know that your
360 could play 3d games like.
How many people do you knowthat?
Do that right?
I?
Mark Trobough (01:21:24):
think people
probably cared to be fair and a
lot of them play 3d.
Brandon Hurles (01:21:29):
A lot of ps3 and
360 games play in 3d and are
actually very, very good.
Uh, I mean like surprisinglyreally awesome, like the arkham
games, for instance, thoseplayed in 3d really good games
in 3d Like a lot of fun.
So my goal would be ultimatelyto get two more of these.
(01:21:49):
I would like to get two more,but one of these I'm going to
leave out so I can play the 3Dgames for myself and I don't
have to keep taking it in andout of the box and stuff like
that One I'm going to leave inthe box.
The one downfall of this so Ipaid a pretty good deal.
Yeah, talked him down to 150 onit.
(01:22:10):
It's in the box, right, like150 for a loose one is is even a
good deal.
The one downfall to this isthat it did not come in with the
pack-in game and the mostunfortunate part is it did not
come with any of the 3D glasses.
But thankfully I've gotmultiple of the 3D glasses.
(01:22:31):
I bought a bunch of them at aconvention years ago, for when I
eventually found one of these,before I even had one of the
monitors, I bought like four orfive of them, and I actually
have a prototype pair of the 3Dglasses too, the plug-in USB
that developers used and is apretty cool piece of history
that I have.
But what I need to get is thepack-in MotorStorm Apocalypse
(01:22:56):
game that I just want to put inthe package.
I've already got it for theother one, but I want to have
this complete.
I just want it to be completein box.
So I'm going to try to findthat not for resale copy,
complete, I just want it to becomplete in box.
So I'm going to try to findthat not for resale copy.
It's probably going to be apain to find because it's a
specific copy that was made forthis particular pack-in, like
the game was released by itself,but there's a not for resale
(01:23:17):
copy just for this package.
So I'm going to try to findthat.
I imagine it's not going to beexpensive or anything, it's just
going to be tracking it down.
It's probably going to try tofind that.
I imagine it's not going to beexpensive or anything, it's just
going to be tracking it down.
It's probably going to be thepain in the butt.
But yeah, that was like the oneof my big things for the week.
I was I mean absolutelyflabbergasted that I was able to
find another one of them andfor the deal I did.
(01:23:38):
It is unfortunate it didn'tcome with the other stuff that
included in the box, but at theend of the day I found one Again
.
I knew that I wanted to getmultiple of them and I knew I
wanted to have one set up at alltimes and one to leave in the
package to preserve and not toget scratches on the screen and
things like that, to make sure Ihave a backup because they are
(01:24:02):
prone to having some problems.
Doesn't the Sony 3D DVD playersound system, 3d glass
compatible with the PlayStation3D TV?
Oh yeah, it is the sound system.
I don't have this, but I amafter it.
It only came out in Japan, butthere is a PlayStation 3 sound
(01:24:22):
bar that came out for this TV toget 3D spatial audio while
you're playing your 3D games, soit's like trying to immerse you
into the ecosystem of playingit.
It only came out in Japan.
It did not come out here, asfar as I'm aware.
I think it came out in Japanand I think it came out in
(01:24:43):
Europe.
I could be wrong, but I'm prettysure that we did not get it
here at all, but I have seen onein person.
I know someone that was able toget one off of AliExpress and
then I've seen another collectorthat was local here had one at
one point.
I missed him.
He sold it.
I missed him selling it or Iwould have picked it up, but
(01:25:04):
that is one of the things.
I'm him.
He sold it, I missed himselling it or I would have
picked it up, but that is one ofthe things I'm after.
So if you do have any leads onthat PlayStation 3D soundbar, I
would love to buy that.
That's something I've beenafter for many years since I
found out about it, because thatimmerses you even more into the
experience and kind of whatthey were going for.
Like you think about it wasreally ahead of its time.
You know stuff like that thatwas very ahead of its time.
(01:25:27):
But yeah, that's one thing I amlooking for is that PS3
soundbar.
So hopefully I do find that atsome point.
Sure you will eventually.
And the last things I got toshow off are a mixture of one I
bought the other day because Ineeded it for the Call of Duty
collection, one I got today andthen the other ones Matt bought
(01:25:51):
me at the show.
He picked them up for me.
I paid him.
So the first one that I boughtwas sorry, this is kind of funny
.
This might sound redonkridiculous when I show you guys
these, because I own these gamesmultiple times over now.
I already had it for the 360.
(01:26:12):
I needed it for the PS3 stillright.
So I got the PS3 version when Isaid I'm going all in on this,
I'm going for every version ofevery release that I can
possibly get.
So pick that up.
Modern Warfare 2 for the PS3.
Nothing big right.
Well then Matt found this, so Ihad picked this up prior.
(01:26:33):
I still would have got thisanyway, because this is
technically a different release,so it wouldn't have counted
towards a set.
But I mean, it counts towards aset, but it's a separate
release, so I would have gottenit regardless.
This is the Call of Duty ModernWarfare collection that includes
1 and 2 on PS3.
So I've got.
I own them by themselves, both1 and 2 on PS3, but I also own
(01:26:56):
them in this cool collectionthat came out.
This was pretty neat too.
I actually didn't know aboutthis one.
I knew about the Black Ops one.
This was pretty neat too.
I actually didn't know aboutthis one.
I knew about the Black Ops one.
What is unfortunate, however,is that oh, no, it's not this
one.
No, I do have both the gamesfor this one, so you got both of
them in there.
(01:27:17):
This was a pretty cool release.
I don't know exactly why thisis a not-for-resale copy.
If anybody knows, please let meknow in the chat.
I would like to find out thethe story behind that, what it
was a pack-in for and why it's anot for resale copy.
It's very peculiar and veryinteresting.
Um might have to look into itmyself and figure that out,
(01:27:38):
because I always like to findout that kind of info, but
there's like a collector'sedition of a console that they
packed in with right.
I'm wondering if it was eitherthat or.
Um, yeah, I'm assuming probablythat, because I actually had
not seen this particular onebefore.
So this was pretty cool to seeand uh, yeah, so that's another
one to check off the list.
(01:27:59):
But just like that one, thisone isn't a not-for-resale copy,
but this is a 3D-compatiblegame, which is pretty cool, and
that is Call of Duty Black Ops 1and 2 for the PS3 combo pack.
I did know about this one, so Iremember seeing this one in
stores back in the day.
(01:28:19):
You get a free $15 DLC packvalue with it as well.
Pretty cool.
What is very unfortunate aboutthis is I did not look at this
until today because I justtrusted you know it only
included Black Ops 1.
There is no Black Ops 2.
(01:28:40):
You're missing the disc.
I'm missing the disc.
So I believe that this is justa standard copy of the game.
So if I can just find a loosedisc online, as far as I'm aware
, there's nothing differentabout this release because it
does not say it's a not forresale copy.
The disc for black ops 1doesn't say anything special.
(01:29:03):
It's the same as the other one.
It looks exactly the same.
So I think for this one.
I'm missing probably just theinsert and then the disc 2.
So I think I can buy a loosedisc and put it in there and
I'll be okay.
Thankfully this one is not anot-for-resale, from my
understanding, because I waslike, ah, but thankfully it's
(01:29:25):
not the Modern WarfareCollection one, because then
that would have sucked.
That's a not for resale copywould have been a lot harder to
track down.
Um, yeah, but man, that was kindof a bummer to see that it
wasn't in there and I was likeman.
But uh, I picked up.
He also picked up these two forme at the convention and so I
(01:29:49):
technically have all threeversions of this game now,
except one of them I don't havethe case and manual for, so I
still need to get that for theXbox, but that is one of my
favorite Call of Duties ever.
It's not my favorite, but it'samong my favorites in my top
three.
That is Call of duty 2, big red1, which was a spinoff of call
of duty 2 uh, for console and um, yeah, so I got it for
(01:30:13):
playstation 2 and gamecube.
This is my first gamecube callof duty game.
There's a few of them that cameout for gamecube.
This is my first one that Ihave, so i'm'm really excited
about that and I can't wait toget all of them.
I'm super pumped to pick thoseup.
But yeah, I mean it was alwayscool seeing Call of Duty on
Nintendo consoles.
(01:30:33):
As you know, like the Wii got afew games as well, the DS got a
few games as well.
So the not-for-resale versionis missing the slipcover.
Mark Trobough (01:30:42):
Oh, I'm never
going to find that Okay you
might as well just assume itdoesn't exist anymore.
Brandon Hurles (01:30:49):
I'm never going
to find that I'm never going to
find just the slipcover for alike unknown game that most
people do not even know existsas a pack.
Mark Trobough (01:31:01):
dang it, mr
Coffee, you should have just not
told me just rained on yourparade, like hey, well,
technically you're missing thisthing.
Brandon Hurles (01:31:10):
I will never
find just the slip cover.
I'm telling you actually, um,it would be cool if we did find
it.
But what was, uh, also prettyinteresting I don't know if you
knew this, um, but what wasreally peculiar about these
particular releases?
The xbox version is like theps2 version as well, but but the
(01:31:31):
PS2 and Xbox version actuallyhad online multiplayer for it,
and the GameCube version onlyhad single player and local
co-op, so that was somethingsuper interesting.
Considering the GameCube couldtechnically go online with the
broadband adapter, they opted tonot do that on the GameCube for
some reason, but the Xbox andthe PS2 version are online
(01:31:53):
playable and you can still playthem today.
There are ways to get in andstill be able to play these
games online today, so it'sreally cool.
And then my last thing I foundthis today when I stopped at
GameStop and found out that theywere closing down was this is
my fourth version of owning thisgame.
Still missing one more, uh, andthat is call duty 3 for the ps2
(01:32:18):
, also an online game.
Uh, you play it and, funnyenough, I had this back in the
day on the ps2 and I played itonline.
On the ps2, we had to actuallygo into our computer room, hook
it up to the phone line, sodisconnect the phone line to be
able to play the ethernet umonline day back in the day.
(01:32:40):
So that means it tied up thephone and all that stuff no,
someone answered the phone.
It kicked me off the internetexactly that's what would happen
, um, but no, I was actuallyreally surprised to see this uh
there, because they my game stopunfortunately has not really
been getting in any of the retrostuff like yours does like very
seldomly gets anything in atall like they always have like a
(01:33:01):
lot, of, a lot of ds stuff.
Mark Trobough (01:33:03):
Ps3 mine doesn't
mine doesn't.
Brandon Hurles (01:33:06):
It's crazy.
There's a few xbox 360 nonethat I needed.
There's a few.
Mark Trobough (01:33:10):
There's a couple
of ps you like 64 and SNES and
Ness Mine has none of those.
Brandon Hurles (01:33:15):
No, no NES, no
SNES, no 64.
It's got some DS games, acouple of 3DS games.
That's it.
It doesn't even have Vita games, for God's sake.
So, but here's the unfortunatepart about this, and I here's
the unfortunate part about this,and I did not.
This is why I've got to look atthese things closer before I
buy them.
I did not see this until Ialready walked out of the store
(01:33:36):
and looked at it at home, andthe entire front cover of the
game is cut in like this it's.
It's let me see if I showed alittle bit closer.
It's pretty bad.
Like it might not look as badon camera, but it's pretty bad.
It's got a gigantic rip rightright through the cover.
Mark Trobough (01:33:59):
art you loved it
like someone just stabbed a
knife into it it's like how didyou even do that?
Brandon Hurles (01:34:05):
and I'm like I
highly doubt I'm gonna find just
a cover.
I paid like six bucks.
I used my $5 reward, so I paidlike a dollar something for this
.
So more than likely what'sgoing to end up happening is I'm
just going to have to end uprebuying it.
And I essentially bought thisfor no reason, cause I I'm sorry
for the complete collection.
I don't want a bunch of garbageyou know looking games for this
(01:34:29):
, because I would like to dosomething with this collection
one day, because there is nobodyelse out there right now who uh
is going for or has a completecall of duty collection.
I'm talking going aftereverything the engage game.
I'm going after the psp game,the vita game, all the ds game.
I'm going after everything allthe pc physical releases,
(01:34:49):
everything.
So I'm want a museum.
Well, yeah, that's kind of theplan is.
What I'm sort of doing here isis wanting to, wanting to do
some things that people haven'tdone.
And how many people out theredo you know that care to collect
every single physical releaseof call of duty?
You know, like there's just'sjust there's like some people
(01:35:12):
are going to be like, yeah, Iwant to get, I want to get every
single one of them, like everygame.
But I don't want to have threeversions of the game on three
different consoles and have,like you know, like just
ridiculous stuff like, forinstance, the latest one, modern
warfare 3, for the PS5 andstuff like that.
I've got it on PS5, right, well, I need it for Xbox Series X as
(01:35:37):
well, but I'm not going to pay$60 for it when I already have
it on PS5.
So for me, that'll be one thatI'll buy when it drops
significantly down, because Ialready own it, I already play
it on that console and there'sthere's no reason for me.
(01:35:58):
I'm not, I'm not going to dropanother $60 on the game, I'm not
going to play that version,because I've already put enough
time in the PS5 game that for me, you know, it just doesn't make
sense.
But I'll, I'll buy it whenthere's a deal or a sale or a
drop significantly down, whetherit takes years or not for me to
eventually grab it.
That's one where I would notwant to pay more than 20 for it
tops, and I don't even want topay that because I've already
(01:36:20):
got the game, the version I'mplaying, and I'm just not
playing that version.
So, but I you want to go forthe full set, like I said and
sticking to my word, and thatwas, uh, that's all the pickups
there, man.
I know, I know it's quite a bitmore than I thought that it was
going to be, but a lot of stuffcame and a lot of things
happened, so that is all mypickups.
(01:36:41):
So yeah, go ahead and jump intothe news.
Mark, get us running here,because my voice is killing me.
Mark Trobough (01:36:48):
I was about to
say that you just went for like
40 minutes.
Brandon Hurles (01:36:51):
I should not
have did that, but.
Mark Trobough (01:36:53):
I was like, oh
wow, I guess he's going to keep
going.
We did get some update becauseI know we talked about this a
little bit a while ago.
We don't know exactly what'shappening, but Pokemon, like not
surprised, surprisingly and notsurprisingly, pokemon Scarlet
and Violet are getting some kindof free update for the Switch 2
, but we don't know anythingmore than that, other than it's
getting some kind of free updatefor the switch to uh but we
(01:37:13):
don't know anything more thanthat, other than it's getting
some kind of some, some kind ofscarlet.
Yeah, oh, thank god.
So hopefully it's a performanceissue, but nothing's been
confirmed other than it'sgetting a update of some kind,
so hopefully it'll be at leastfixing the performance issues,
because, god, that game dropstream rates so bad consistently
.
Yeah, we were talking aboutthat.
I was like, of all the gamesthat you're remastering?
Brandon Hurles (01:37:31):
for that game.
Drop stream rates are so bad,consistently.
Yeah, we were talking aboutthat.
I was like, of all the gamesthat you're remastering for the,
the switch to, you're notremastering the game that needs
it the most.
Mark Trobough (01:37:41):
Yeah, Like game.
For what are you doing?
Like your game, like this gameperforms, like absolute, like
I'm not.
Brandon Hurles (01:37:45):
I'm not going to
defend them and saying that
they they dropped the ball onthat game with performance, but
I do enjoy the game, so if Icould play a better version of
those games that run better atthe end of the day.
The games themselves are verygood.
They're more pokemon right, andthere's more to do kind of.
Mark Trobough (01:38:03):
I don't know.
I think it's one of the but Ithink it's a lot of performances
arceus, far and above, isnumber one and everything else
is a distant whatever.
It's not even close, but that'slike a personal opinion.
Brandon Hurles (01:38:16):
I just wasn't a
big fan of it, even without the
performance issues is whatyou're saying.
Mark Trobough (01:38:22):
A lot of the map
just feels open and empty and
it's hard, especially if you'retrying to catch a lot of Pokemon
.
There's a lot that you can runinto issues and stuff like that
with Some.
Like if you're trying to catcha lot of poke, like it's just
there's a lot that could you canrun into issues and stuff like
that with.
I mean, some of the pokemon arejust tiny and I don't know.
I just I thought that the worldwas.
It's not that it wasn't open,it just that at times there's
just massive parts of the mapsthat just feel like there's not
a lot to do other than you'rerunning around an area looking
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for a pokemon to spawn.
So, but that was like a.
That's like a personal thing.
Brandon Hurles (01:38:50):
I don't know.
I had no problems with thegames themselves, it was just
the performance issues.
Mark Trobough (01:38:54):
I think I don't
mind massive, open worlds, but
like I feel like there needs tobe more to do, it's also really
hard to miss trainer battles.
Well, it's also really easy toget massively over leveled in
that game.
Brandon Hurles (01:39:06):
It's game freaks
.
First attempt to open world.
So I mean I feel like that's asecond arceus was not open world
that was the open world.
Mark Trobough (01:39:13):
But like, come on
, like, open worlds have been a
thing for over a day, like twodecades now.
Brandon Hurles (01:39:16):
They've been
relevant yeah, but I mean it's
their.
It's their first like periodwith any games that they I think
that's that I don't know.
Mark Trobough (01:39:24):
I'll be critical
of them because they have the
finances and the money to havedone it right the first time and
I just I'm not defending thatthe games have problems, but I
think the games are fun I I havefun with them.
I enjoy it's one of the.
It's one of the ones you evensent me a guide of the games.
So I was like oh, mark doeslike yeah, I did, but it's one
of my least favorite pokemongames that I played.
Brandon Hurles (01:39:43):
I think um.
So I semi agree with you.
I think that sun and moon areweaker games than scarlet and
violet, though if it weren't forthe performance problems like
the games themselves I thinkit's close.
Mark Trobough (01:39:56):
That's doing the
game, I think.
I still think I've heard thestory of sun and moon over the
one in scarlet I think the storywas very, very weak sorry.
Oh, I was bullied.
I'm gonna be a bully with sucha weak storyline.
Brandon Hurles (01:40:09):
To be fair, I
don't but they, I just feel like
they didn't even do it wellwell, thank God they're doing,
they're going to update thegames and not just leave them as
be, because I mean, it isPokemon and it is deserving of
giving respect you can't evenre-battle the final four.
That's not a thing in this gameyeah, there is some weird
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decision making that they didwith the game.
Oh, it's a quasi tournament.
Mark Trobough (01:40:33):
I'm like I get,
but I hate it because the way
the tournament works, becausewhat you used to do with the
final four is you.
Brandon Hurles (01:40:38):
You'll be able
to go back to your menu between
uh uh, between each gym leader.
Mark Trobough (01:40:43):
Now you have to
do four fights straight, so like
if you're trying to use thefinal four to like level a
pokemon or level them up toevolve and swap them out for a
living deck, something like that.
You can't do it because you'rejust stuck with your party
through four straight fights.
You get the auto-heal, but youcan't swap out Pokemon as they
evolve and stuff like that.
Brandon Hurles (01:41:02):
So you can't use
that.
One thing in the defense of thegame, since you haven't played
it, is that the DLC for thegames is excellent and, in my
opinion, is better than the mainstory of the base game.
That's a problem.
Mark Trobough (01:41:20):
That's the same
thing with Borderlands, so you
know how to make a good game anda good story.
Why is this not how you did themain story?
Why is this subpar to the DLC?
Brandon Hurles (01:41:31):
I don't know,
can't, I can't really speak to
that, but I do know that they're, they're worth owning and
they're fun.
Uh, the dlc was really fun.
I didn't want the end, so likeI mean, I know they really got
into it they added a lot ofpokemon.
Mark Trobough (01:41:44):
I didn't care for
the fact that there's a whole
new pokedex for the area.
I get why it's there, but it'salso kind of frustrating, yeah,
especially if you're going forlike a living decks type thing
in game or something like that.
It's like, oh, okay, now I'mlike all over the place but you
need to.
Brandon Hurles (01:41:58):
You need to get
over this absolute disdain
towards these games.
If you're trying to do, aliving that's never gonna.
Mark Trobough (01:42:04):
I'm just gonna
have to force myself to play and
be like I'm never touching thisagain.
Once I I got what I need for myliving decks but, uh, I was
gonna happen.
Brandon Hurles (01:42:12):
Uh, that is good
news that they are going to be
working on those games withswitch to.
That's good news.
Mark Trobough (01:42:16):
So we can move on
from that.
They definitely need it as wellas the uh pokemons tcg pocket
because of shining rever uhshining revelry, which I finally
got my first shiny Pokemon inthat deck the other day.
They've seen a 250% Surge sincethat released.
Brandon Hurles (01:42:37):
As far as
revenue, Really, I actually
don't even think it's that greatof a set I haven't seen the
gold card.
Yet I think it has some goodcards, but I haven't seen what
the gold cards are.
Mark Trobough (01:42:50):
I think it's the
shiny cards that people are
going after in the set, becauseI think it's the shiny cards
that people are going after inthe set, because I think this is
the first shiny pokemon is thegold card um shiny charizard I
don't know, but I do know thisis the first set that has shiny
pokemon, which is probably whypeople are uh want this one.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:05):
Yeah, I just
don't think I got it.
I just don't think it's betterthan like like, uh, the muse set
I thought was really I don'tthink.
I don't think it's better thanlike the Muse set I thought was
really really good.
Mark Trobough (01:43:15):
I think it's just
strictly the shiny Pokemon
because the only shiny I got isRiolu.
However you say his name, Rioluis the one that I got the other
day.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:24):
I want to get
the Lucario.
I really want to get that.
And I want to get the Charizardas well, because it's a shiny
as well.
But yeah, it's a shiny as well.
But yeah, that's.
It's a pretty cool set.
Mark Trobough (01:43:37):
It's the shiny
Lucario EX and the shiny
Charizard EX are probably goingto be like.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:41):
Those are the
what's the gold chase card
that's in this set?
Because there's a gold card forevery set.
Mark Trobough (01:43:49):
I'm not sure to
be honest.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:50):
I don't know
either I actually haven't even
bothered to look or anythingwhat the gold card was.
Mark Trobough (01:43:55):
Yeah, and I guess
, the last little small news so
we can get to the big stuff.
It's reported that the Zeldamovie is expected to be a
trilogy of films, obviously withthe first movie coming out in
2027, they say.
Principal filming starts in NewZealand November of this year
and wraps up April of next yearFor the first movie.
Brandon Hurles (01:44:17):
You're telling
me they're filming this In New
Zealand and not Hyrule.
Mark Trobough (01:44:23):
Yes, that's
exactly what I'm saying.
I mean, it makes sense,especially if you watch Lord of
the Rings movies.
I think the environment, a lotof the environment, fits for it,
at least some of the, becauseit's a fairly mountainous in
some areas.
Yeah, obviously the desertcouldn't be filmed there, but,
um, uh, well, they saidprincipal filming, uh, but the
fact that they're this would bea trilogy, so it's not, it's
(01:44:44):
gonna be a.
Brandon Hurles (01:44:45):
I think this
makes sense for I think it makes
one of the more many zeldagames that like it's to be
really hard to tell a story,yeah, but like it's always been
story heavy as far as like firstparty games.
Mark Trobough (01:44:55):
It's like one of
the heaviest story elements of
the games that they have and thefact that they're going to
essentially making a story lastthree separate games.
It gives the story time toproperly develop and introduce a
lot of characters.
What's going on?
I got a one trio yes, you justpull that.
Yeah, this guy.
It's also said she gave me amoto and Hollywood producer Avi
(01:45:18):
or Arad will produce the Zeldamovie.
Okay, I don't know what he'sworked on.
I can't.
Brandon Hurles (01:45:24):
I don't know.
Yeah, we'd have to look up hiswork.
I'm not sure.
Mark Trobough (01:45:27):
I mean it's
always good that she gave me a
moto.
It's one of the producers.
Brandon Hurles (01:45:30):
Absolutely.
I mean, it's always good thatShigeru Miyamoto is one of the
producers.
Absolutely, I think he has tobe, because I think it's such an
important series.
It really has to be done right,and the fact that more than
likely, link will not be talkingis going to make the movie even
harder to do.
Mark Trobough (01:45:44):
Oh, Link's going
to talk in this movie.
I think it will be.
Brandon Hurles (01:45:50):
I don't see why
not.
Mark Trobough (01:45:51):
I mean because
the Kingdom treat Link as if he
talks Based on how charactersinteract with him, but they do
in every game.
They always treat him as if hetalks.
He just doesn't talk as theplayer character.
Why would he not talk?
Brandon Hurles (01:46:05):
Because he never
talks.
Mark Trobough (01:46:07):
He's going to
talk in these movies.
You have to accept that it's adifferent medium.
Brandon Hurles (01:46:11):
I don't want him
to talk, though, but he's gonna
talk in these movies.
You have to accept that it's adifferent medium.
I don't want him to talk,though, but he's going to.
Mark Trobough (01:46:16):
If he talks, I'm
not watching it uh, but some of
the films that this producerworked on.
So he's worked on uh, bladex-men, blade two, spider-man, uh
, daredevil, hulk x2, the pun 2,blade Train.
Brandon Hurles (01:46:31):
He's worked on a
lot of Marvel stuff, a lot of
catalog.
Yeah, he's got a catalog.
Mark Trobough (01:46:35):
Yeah, so it was
what played on Ghost Rider.
Brandon Hurles (01:46:38):
Spirits of
Vengeance Rise of the
Stormtrooper Last Stand.
He's worked on some good.
Mark Trobough (01:46:45):
He worked on the
Ghost in the Shell movie, which
was god-awful.
Brandon Hurles (01:46:49):
That was really
bad.
So he's worked on some reallybad stuff.
Mark Trobough (01:46:53):
He's also worked
on Into the Spider-Verse.
That was good.
Okay, so sorry.
Some of these.
He worked as an executiveproducer, some as just a regular
producer.
So it's kind of back and forth,but he had whether it's an
executive producer or producersome level of high-up work on
some of these movies.
Brandon Hurles (01:47:08):
Well, I mean, at
least yeah, I mean at least
there's some hope there thathe's done some, some pretty good
but as a producer you stillhave your hands all over these
movies.
Mark Trobough (01:47:18):
Yeah, but you
know he was a producer and into
the spider verse executive, longfar from home and stuff like
that and no way home but he'sworked on movies like uh, as a
producer, the uncharted moviemorbius borderlands not been in
the last dance, craven thehunter oh my god, he's like all
(01:47:40):
over the place on court, he'sworked on some really good
movies he's worked on somereally bad movies too because
it's like you know, electratrend, like he worked on, like
all of the movies and stuff likethat.
Brandon Hurles (01:47:52):
So it's like,
all over the place it's just a
bunch of marvels now I feel alot less confident about this
movie, because this is a commentwith shigerman, but he said
that I'm like okay, so thesemovies gonna be a 10 out of 10
or is there is no in?
Between with this, with thisguy oh my god, that's, and he's
apparently working on a to bedetermined date for a Naruto
movie.
So um no, why?
Mark Trobough (01:48:15):
why he's, but he
worked as an executive producer
on X-Men, the animated series,um, you know, nick Fury, agents
of shield, the, the movies neverturn out good ever.
Uh, he worked as a consultanton X-Men 97.
Uh, what's it, tom and Janeever?
Uh, he worked as a consultingon x-men 97.
(01:48:35):
Uh, what's it?
Brandon Hurles (01:48:37):
marzian and jane
super monsters, kong, king of
apes uh, these are all.
Mark Trobough (01:48:38):
These are all
like tv shows that he's either
an exec, mostly an executiveproducer on, but yeah, it's like
.
Oh, he's like all over theplace on on the quality of stuff
he's worked on.
Bros got range.
That's all I can say, so thethe only hope is that shigeru?
Minamoto is uh, is a produceron this movie or an executive
producer somewhere at that level, so keep a tight rein on this I
(01:49:01):
think, hopefully the samequality of the mario movie that
we got yeah, I hope so too.
Brandon Hurles (01:49:07):
That was, uh,
that was a fantastic movie.
They they really did Mariojustice in that movie.
So I do have faith there,because I I always thought that
like a adaptation of Mario wouldnot really work.
Mark Trobough (01:49:22):
I think it would
be until I saw it.
I mean, I don't know, it's notthe first time you you had the,
uh, the the cartoon from likewhat?
The eighties or 90s orsomething like that?
What, mario?
Brandon Hurles (01:49:35):
there's a couple
like the, the mario bros.
Mark Trobough (01:49:36):
There's like one
or two or something that one was
good, one was bad I don't thinkany of them were good.
Brandon Hurles (01:49:39):
Mark.
Oh my god.
Super mario bros 3 had ananimated show, and then there
was a hot super show well,because there was also a legend
of zelda animated series yeah, Ilike that series though like
I'm sorry I like need to have awell, excuse me, princess and I
will lose it and love it.
(01:50:00):
I want, I want that referencein this if they put that in that
movie, man, I will.
Mark Trobough (01:50:05):
I'll lose it in
the theater oh my god, I would
assume a lot of people in thetheater would lose like, oh my
god, they did it that mad lad,did it that would be hilarious
if they did that.
Brandon Hurles (01:50:14):
That'd be really
funny.
Mark Trobough (01:50:15):
I don't know.
Could you do a movie with him,with him not speaking?
Well, I don't know, I was kindof joking, but you could you
could be an interesting, but itwould be for a movie very
interesting because it's likehow you know he, I'm sorry he
speaks, it's just that's all hesays in the movie, right it's.
Brandon Hurles (01:50:36):
It's like how,
how do you actually adapt that?
I don't think you can, I don'tthink it would do it, because I
mean even mario, like even marioin the mario series, like he's,
he speaks so little marioactually talked.
Mark Trobough (01:50:50):
In the games you
have the infamous Mario 64, one.
Brandon Hurles (01:50:54):
Mamma Mia, he
had one liners and they're
really short and sweet and tothe point.
Yeah, I don't know, can you doit?
Yes, you can, but it would bevery difficult, I think.
Mark Trobough (01:51:11):
I don't think
they should even entertain it.
I don't think they're going toentertain it.
I don't think it would work.
The question is what kind ofstory are they going to tell?
Brandon Hurles (01:51:18):
I feel like fans
would be pretty upset by the
change.
It's such a big change for youhave to think.
It's a huge change for Zelda.
This is going all the way backto Zelda 1, of him not speaking.
It's like a thing.
Mark Trobough (01:51:33):
You know, but
it's a video game Like movies,
and video games are not the sametype of thing they're not, but
it's.
Brandon Hurles (01:51:39):
You gotta think,
like I get the point of why
people I think everybody expectsLink to talk in this.
I don't really expect that Idon't expect anything, Because I
don't really expect that.
I don't expect anything becauseI don't know the angle they're
going for with this.
But if it's going to be atrilogy, I mean he's got to
speak at some point in thetrilogy, I would think.
Mark Trobough (01:52:01):
Yeah, hopefully
it does.
Well, the question is, are theyfilming them all kind of like
together, like the Lord of theRings did, or are they going to
do one movie at a time?
Brandon Hurles (01:52:07):
Right, yeah, I
wonder that too.
Mark Trobough (01:52:09):
Yeah, I wonder
that as well but if they're, if
they're already planning on itbeing a trilogy, I think it'd be
better just to film them alltogether.
Brandon Hurles (01:52:14):
I don't know,
that's because they feel more
connected that way and you don'thave all the yeah wait time in
between the actors lookingdifferent and you know losing
the actors.
Mark Trobough (01:52:24):
Well, the movie
didn't do as well, so they nixed
them and yeah, like cliffhangerand stuff.
Brandon Hurles (01:52:29):
Right, right
right I will say I'm very
excited about this because it isit is among my favorite
franchises of all time, so Ithink that it can be adapted.
Well, I think it may.
It has it has the lore for avery good story, and it can do
something completely originaltoo, and still work just as well
like it doesn't have to followa story.
Mark Trobough (01:52:51):
So you have to
get a.
Yeah, another two years you geta trailer and then we can just,
oh god, the moment that trailerdrops, it's going to be, you
know, examined to hell oh yeah,dude, we're gonna be, we're
gonna be, uh, watching that one50 times, making a video out of
that one yeah, because otherstuff we kind of already knew if
you watch the direct.
(01:53:12):
But obviously yeah, well, it'severything though yeah, the
switch is going to be handheld1080p docked up to 4k, which is
really nice, but that's almostcertainly uh ai, upscaling as
much what we're doing.
Yeah, dlfs and stuff like that,which is what you're getting
with that, and it's alsosupporting hdr.
They say what it supports up to120 frames per second yeah, it
(01:53:35):
supports vrr, which is what Iwas worried about about the 60
frames for the 4k and stuff likethat which is 4k 60?
Brandon Hurles (01:53:41):
1080 120.
Mark Trobough (01:53:44):
So that's that's
honestly, the games still need
to be optimized to work on it,but that the fact that the
hardware will support that is isreally good.
Plus it's a 7.9 inch screenpretty much an 80 inch screen
and stuff like that so I thinkit'll.
Brandon Hurles (01:53:58):
I like the
design of this over the original
switch personally, but uh youknow, what's crazy is that like
the 1080p screen is actually,even though it's actually a
better screen than some of thepc handhelds that are out there.
Well, yeah, because everyone isriffing on the.
Mark Trobough (01:54:14):
It's not an OLED,
but you act like LCDs aren't?
Brandon Hurles (01:54:17):
good or can't be
good screens.
Mark Trobough (01:54:18):
The original
Switch was a really cheap comp,
to be fair.
It's like what?
$300 or something like that.
Yeah, here's my take on it.
Brandon Hurles (01:54:25):
Almost 10 years
ago, the upgrade from the LCD
that we got at the time when theSwitch came out.
The OLED was a huge upgrade forit.
It made games look so different.
But the technology that they'reusing with the LCD now versus
the technology we had with LCDthen you can even tell from
(01:54:45):
second hand footage how muchbetter that picture looks.
Mark Trobough (01:54:49):
I'm like yeah
sure, oled will always be better
, but just because it's LCDdoesn't mean it's bad.
Not all LCD is created equally.
Brandon Hurles (01:54:57):
It is improved
upon consistently.
So my take is that, yeah, it'sstill not as good as an OLED,
but here's the thing You've gotto keep the price down.
You've got to keep the pricedown, for one OLED is more
expensive and also the fact thatthat lcd screen just from
secondhand footage I watched somany videos of people playing it
(01:55:18):
, like I, justine.
I watched her video and I waslike my god, this screen looks
so good and it's lcd, like I was.
I was, I wasn't shocked, I knewlcd had gotten better, but I
was like, okay, then I, I getthis for one.
It keeps the cost down a littlebit more.
If they come out no lead modellater down the line, I'll grab
(01:55:39):
it, of course.
So I absolutely have to.
I love, I love oled technology,um, but the lcd technology has
improved vastly upon the lcdtechnology of the switch one.
Mark Trobough (01:55:52):
So yeah, uh, and
that's what I had.
Obviously it's the, so it's gotmore.
It's got 256, uh, gigabytes ofinternal storage, which why not?
A lot for a lot of nintendogames.
It's a lot more room for a lotmore games, and it also supports
the micro sd, but it's not thesame micro sd you can't use the
same sd as the switch, butobviously it's a good thing
digital obviously it's a goodthing digital transfer it's a
(01:56:14):
good thing, because what peopledon't understand about that is
that the micro sd card expresscards are the closest that we
can get to ssd technology yeah,you want, you need is the.
The read and write reallyobviously really matters for the
speed of some of these gamesyes but obviously I'm, it's
probably going to be.
They're going to talk somethings, but until you actually
have this in your hand, untilpeople can rip it apart and see
(01:56:35):
the actual guts of this thing,I'm sure some of the actual
hardware will be limited.
But once this actually comesout, I'm sure we'll get like
we'll know for sure what'sactually behind the actual dock
and stuff like that.
Brandon Hurles (01:56:46):
What I do think
puts ease to a lot of people's
minds is that this is, even atthe $450 price point, the lower
price point.
This is still competitive to PChandhelds that are out now and
it's still competitive tocurrent gen consoles PS5, not
the PS5 Pro, but you know PS5and Series X.
(01:57:08):
This is competitive to that.
It is doing what you know.
It is doing what those consolesare doing.
At the very least it's hittingthat 120 hertz, it's hitting
that 4K.
It's got the DLSS and my takeon this is that Nintendo is
going to be way more preparedfor DLSS than PlayStation was
(01:57:32):
for PSSR, because it was a newtechnology, it's proprietary, it
was a brand new thing for them,so developers didn't know what
to do with it.
Yet In my humble opinion, Ithink the DLSS, with the Switch
2 right off the bat, is going tohit the ground running and is
going to be done correctly,unlike PSSR, because they decide
(01:57:54):
to go proprietary with it andpeople have to learn how to to
code with these things and howit works.
Mark Trobough (01:57:59):
They're just
using what's already on the
market right.
Brandon Hurles (01:58:01):
You know they're
working with nvidia technology,
so it's already been there andit's already been thoroughly
tested and used and and thingslike that.
What I would be interested toknow is what.
Obviously this is likesemi-proprietary as well.
This is not.
This is nvidia's um technologyfor dlss, but it's not the same
(01:58:25):
dlss that you find in your pc.
It's it's.
It's beenructured.
What I'd be curious to know iswhat version of DLSS are they
working off of?
Would it be two?
Would it be three?
Mark Trobough (01:58:37):
I'm assuming
Probably three, because we're at
four now it's hard to tell,until we get some kind of
official confirmation either,when we can dig into it more or
if there's a leak at an actualdeveloper.
Brandon Hurles (01:58:48):
It'd be cool if
well, I say it'd be cool if
there was a leak, but I'm surewe'll find out eventually once
the switch is actually out andstuff like that, though you'll
probably get some kind of leakfrom a development I'd just be
curious, because the peopleworking with it you said um, you
went from like a 1080 tistraight to the 4070, right,
yeah, okay, so like you didn'tget to see the progression of
dlss and how horrible it was wasin the beginning, oh, no Cause
(01:59:11):
I buy a new GPU like every likefive, six years.
It was really bad in thebeginning.
Like it was really bad, itwasn't good People didn't like
it.
Mark Trobough (01:59:21):
It was new
technology and stuff like that.
Brandon Hurles (01:59:24):
So that's why I
said I'm kind of curious as to
what version they're working offof.
Obviously they're doing theirown, like quote-unquote
proprietary version of DLSS, butit's working off of already
made technology.
Mark Trobough (01:59:39):
Well, yeah,
because you're not using the
same chips and the same cardsthat you can get on a laptop or
a desktop, obviously.
So there's some changes thathave to probably be done.
My assumption is.
Brandon Hurles (01:59:47):
It's probably
going to be working off of DLSS
3 just because 3.5 was for 4090and 4 is now for the 5090 or for
the 50 series.
So that's just my guess of whatthey're working off of, which is
a good sign, because DLSS 1, 2were not great.
(02:00:07):
They were still working on thetechnology.
It got better and better andobviously they pretty much
perfected it with the 4090.
Like across the board, peoplelove that card and love what
DLSS brought to the table withthat.
But I'd be curious just to knowa little more of the ins and
outs of it.
But I don't think Nintendowants us to know that stuff.
(02:00:29):
So whether we will knowintentionally or not is to be
seen.
Mark Trobough (02:00:37):
No, yeah, I agree
, sir, I was trying to pull
something up, real quick Come on, Mark.
No, you were talking because Iwas trying to prepare it for the
next thing I was pulling up.
Brandon Hurles (02:00:48):
Oh, my God.
Mark Trobough (02:00:50):
Talk about
literally everything.
Yeah, I think we're good enough, uh.
So I mean, as you say, thatI'll try to pull up the, the
screen share, okay, so obviouslywe're going to know more about
this at on the uh for mario kartworld, on april 17th it's going
to have its own direct.
But one of the things that wedid learn when they were doing
(02:01:11):
their treehouse I'm just goingto play like a short little
little snippet is the fact thatfor the first time that I'm
pretty sure is super Mario cart,the what is it?
The feather item is actuallyback in the game.
Brandon Hurles (02:01:24):
That's cool.
Mark Trobough (02:01:25):
Which is which is
crazy.
It's been this long.
Brandon Hurles (02:01:28):
Yeah, I think,
uh, yeah, I think I think it's
coming up here for a second.
Mark Trobough (02:01:30):
Uh, when he does
this?
The next item?
Okay, because we were talkingabout it like how it's going to
use.
You can be able to like dodge,like the blue shell, but the
fact that the feather isactually in the racing portion
of a game I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Wow, I don't think they're evergoing to bring it back.
I don't know exactly what youcould or couldn't use it for.
Obviously we don't have ourhands on the game and certain
(02:01:51):
map designs, uh.
But I guess with the idea, thefact that you're bringing you
know the uh, that you'rebringing the feather back and
you you have quasi open worldelements, I could see it being
useful for that to help, like,traverse the world and stuff
like that, if items areavailable while you're generally
(02:02:12):
traversing the world, but theability to maybe add a new
design to where, uh, I can bringthat back.
Yeah, a design of a world wheremaybe there's not a ramp to get
to a certain area but thefeather allows you to get up to
another area.
You have to have the item for acertain shortcut or something
like that would be a prettyunique way, because you never
played super mario kart on thesnes.
(02:02:32):
The feather was essentiallywhat they used, because ramps
were in a thing to either getaround obstacles or jump over
something or a certain uh, whatdo you call it?
Like shortcuts, you had to getthe feather to uh to access,
essentially, right, uh, so likeI could see them potentially
doing the the same thing.
Obviously, we've come a longway since the super mario kart,
(02:02:52):
which for, as you know, it's youstruggle to go back and play
that game and get good at it.
It's I grew up playing thatgame and it's I think it's it's
hard, iconic game even back,when it was hard because using
directional pads, stuff likeyeah, drifting, you needed to
drift, but if you drifted toolong you'd spin out.
There was, it was a out.
It was much harder to getreally good at that game.
Brandon Hurles (02:03:12):
Yeah, it was.
Mark Trobough (02:03:13):
I'm just kind of
curious.
And then obviously we're goingto learn more on the 17th
exactly about this game, whichis the big launch title for a
while.
It's another month until youget Donkey Kong, and then it's
going to probably be until theholiday before the next big.
You have Metroid and thenPokemon Z launch.
Brandon Hurles (02:03:33):
I guess we
didn't really for those that
weren't able to watch the uhdirect with us or anything.
I guess we didn't even reallymention that this is essentially
an open world mario kart gamethat I had.
Yeah, I could have neverguessed this is something that
we would ever get.
But when you think about itreally makes sense, because
games like need for speed, mostwanted or, um, some of those
(02:03:55):
open world uh racing type gameslike it really does actually
make a lot of sense.
And it makes sense as like anext step and next evolution,
because, at the end of the day,what else do you do different
with Mario Kart?
And this is the only logicalway Other than this you're just
going to redo what Mario Kart 8and 8 Deluxe was, which was just
(02:04:18):
a bunch.
Mark Trobough (02:04:19):
You just add more
tracks, like you need to move
the world, and this is probablythe only way they could like
revamp Mario Kart is introducingan open-world concept, because
obviously they talked about itwith.
You know, you have to drive thedifferent courses.
You've got the essentially the,the marathon race, where you
every section of the race, you,you get knocked out and stuff
like that which other racinggames kind of already do.
(02:04:41):
But for mario kart.
Brandon Hurles (02:04:42):
It's a cue from
uh f099.
With that a little bit, whereyou get, you get knocked out
there's a lot of games andpretty racing games that do do
that, obviously not all of them,but then, on top of that.
Mark Trobough (02:04:53):
Obviously, I
don't think we've gotten
confirmed.
We're probably gonna getconfirmed the 19th, but we
essentially already know there'sgonna be 24 player races, which
will be, you know, nice.
And hopefully the the networkedversion of this online will,
we'll be able to handle it aswell as they are.
They're hinting, or people arespeculating there could be up to
84 potential characters.
Uh, hopefully they're not we weknow there's different skins
(02:05:16):
for characters.
Hopefully that doesn't countmario is one character and then
you can just add different skinson them, and it's not like come
on, we all want, dr mario,eight versions of your character
list is just different versionsof mario essentially, uh, but
like.
If you could essentially like,there's no reason at this point.
They couldn't essentially putevery most of the mainline mario
.
Essentially, uh, but like.
If you could essentially like,there's no reason at this point
they couldn't essentially putevery most of the mainline mario
characters in this game andeven other characters as well,
(02:05:38):
like think of uh, what's, uh,what's her name?
from bayonetta, um, you know,being like a racer or like, but
add those after every singlemario characters in this game,
like they should all be in thisgame, and then you can start
adding in other IPs and stufflike that on top of it because,
like Mario Kart arcade GP 1 and2, like, for instance, had
(02:06:01):
Pac-Man in the game so thosewere also developed by Bandai
Namco, so that makes a littlebit more sense yeah, but it
would be interesting to see someof those other characters
brought to the franchise, likethe way they did link with uh,
mario kart 8 deluxe and um, yeah, I think this is uh, this makes
sense is like the nextevolution.
Brandon Hurles (02:06:22):
Mario kart like
and the question is the first
time I've been this excitedabout a mario kart in many years
really it's pretty much beenwhat's the gimmick, but the game
still pretty much plays thesame.
Mark Trobough (02:06:33):
So this is the
first time, and then I guess the
idea is how many courses are wegoing to get at launch?
Uh, how are they going to deal?
Are we even getting?
Are they going away from theretro stuff?
Or how are they going to dealwith expansions and more tracks?
Are they able to bring theolder tracks back?
Either is you can play thatlike the old bar cart, or
they're going to try to like addretro tracks into this open
world style.
It's a mixture of bothPotentially.
Brandon Hurles (02:06:55):
I wonder what
they're going to do.
I'm definitely curious on howthey're going to because ever
since I think ever since a MarioKart advanced.
Mark Trobough (02:07:05):
I don't remember
that's the game, but on the on
the GBA circuit, retro carts,retro tracks have been a thing
in every Mario Kart game.
Like gba circuit, retro carts,retro tracks have been a thing
in every mario kart game, likethat's always been there.
Do they go away from thatstaple?
Because of what?
Brandon Hurles (02:07:16):
they're trying
to do.
Mark Trobough (02:07:17):
I have one
request for this game bring back
battle mode from mario kart dsI, I mean, I'd love to see it
and stuff like that, or at thevery least eventually with with
updates, because we're at apoint now where that's something
you could add down the line,though you'd like it to be in
the base game.
But I have one more uh, what'sanother two weeks before the
17th?
(02:07:37):
This yeah about about two weeksbefore we get the full direct,
which is probably gonna tell useverything about the games,
though one more request customemblems you know, we're not
getting that back ever againyeah that's a relic stuck on the
ds, and you know why it's notcoming back as much as I loved
it?
Because I spent forever justmaking little uh character
designs on that thingessentially it's pixel art yeah,
(02:08:00):
it's pixel art.
Brandon Hurles (02:08:01):
Those compete.
People made some cool stuff,man, that's how I learned about
genitals and all that kind ofstuff.
Mark Trobough (02:08:07):
So this guy.
I think you played more onlinethan I did, but I played a lot
of mario kart online yeah, Iguess one of the other big games
that we, that we got, uhannounced, uh, that aren't third
party games, is a hyrulewarriors age of imprisonment,
which, yes, I think, which hasnot been talked about very much.
Brandon Hurles (02:08:29):
I've noticed
surprisingly not I've I've seen
so little um talked about verymuch.
I've noticed Surprisingly notI've seen so little talked about
this game and I think thisseries is very popular and it's
obviously set in the Tears ofthe Kingdom timeline.
It makes a lot of sense and Ageof Calamity.
(02:08:49):
Its downfall was the fact thatit had performance problems
because of the amount ofcharacters and stuff on screen
and there's a lot going on withthese games, but the fact that
we're kind of like that one,because this is what the uh
imprisoning war essentially sowe're we're seeing more of the
story game.
Mark Trobough (02:09:06):
Probably there's
not gonna I sorry I can't speak.
Link's not in this past so I soI assume Zelda will be our main
character, that we, that weplay as in this game.
But the fact that we canexperience the other side of the
story of of tears of thekingdom, and I kind of like what
they're doing with thesewarrior games in between Zelda
games yeah, you get it's.
It's a stop gap between thefour or five years between games
(02:09:27):
as of right now, and itdirectly ties into the main
story Essentially, since they'restuck doing this back and forth
, which I you there?
Brandon Hurles (02:09:40):
Oh, he's frozen.
Mark Trobough (02:09:43):
This allows you
to expand and experience what's
going on.
Brandon Hurles (02:09:45):
So, I?
Mark Trobough (02:09:46):
What's that?
You're frozen, oh sorry, I dolike what they're doing with
this and I don't necessarilymind it.
I don't hate the Warriors gamesand I think it's a unique way
to tell the full story of everymainline game.
Essentially, yeah, I think so,If that makes sense to you.
Brandon Hurles (02:10:03):
Yeah, no, no, it
makes sense to me.
I was getting Burnout justbecause we were getting the Fire
Emblem Warriors, because wewere getting the fire emblem
warriors, we were getting theHyrule warriors and we were also
getting the persona strikers,which is the same thing for
persona, and we were getting alot of these games.
But no, I mean it makes a lotof sense because it's like it's
(02:10:24):
a cool, unique way to have atake on Zelda and like it makes
sense and it's telling a storythat fills in where we didn't
get story and like tears of thekingdom, of wrath of the wild
and stuff like that, where a lotof stuff was kind of missing
and we just we didn't know asmuch about the video games, but
(02:10:45):
like age of calamity broughtforth a lot of lore to the story
.
That was really important and,um, yeah, I think this is great.
Mark Trobough (02:10:53):
So yeah, and the
fact that it I guess so they do
say it comes out winter, sothat's probably a december to
february release window.
It's, I guess they they'reprobably still working on the
game so we don't have like ahard set date.
Yeah, but so it comes outsometime in the winter, which
means it could come after theholiday season, so so we got
some time on this.
But, yeah, I'm, I I don'tnecessarily hate for for just
(02:11:15):
Zelda, regardless of the otherIPs for the warrior games.
I do think it fits Hyrule Causewhen you think of like a lot of
like the lore for some of thesefights or like how they talk up
at least in the last two gameswith link.
These kind of fights make a lotmore sense for the battle
You're fighting, like a handfulof the cobblings, just the way
the game works.
I think this this definitelymakes it feel more, more
(02:11:37):
accurate as far as, like, someof these battles would have
actually been essentially.
Brandon Hurles (02:11:40):
And and I really
liked the name of the game too
it's it's something I would havenot guessed for.
Mark Trobough (02:11:45):
I mean it leans
on because this is supposed to
be the imprisoning war, age ofImprisonment and stuff like that
.
I think the names cleverly tieinto what's actually going on,
yeah.
So all this is more canon thanwhat they did with the first.
Brandon Hurles (02:11:59):
Yeah, the first
one was actually the one for
Breath of the Wild.
Mark Trobough (02:12:02):
It was kind of
like a.
Brandon Hurles (02:12:03):
Oh, Age of
Calamity.
Mark Trobough (02:12:05):
Yeah, age of
Calamity was more alternative.
Brandon Hurles (02:12:07):
It's technically
alternative so it wasn't like a
one for one.
The way the story kind ofplayed out.
Mark Trobough (02:12:14):
I hope they don't
do the same with this one have
it more tied in.
Brandon Hurles (02:12:17):
But I mean, it
was canon, though it was canon
canon.
Mark Trobough (02:12:19):
But I thought the
story primarily dealt with
because you had that littlething go back in time, that it
was canon, but it was like um analternative universe yeah, it
was.
Brandon Hurles (02:12:27):
It was a weird
one.
It was a little bit weird, butI like that they're.
It seems like they're focusingon this being canon and telling
more of the story that we don'tknow about and that we didn't
get from the game, and it's andI think it helps with what
pokemon's doing.
Mark Trobough (02:12:42):
You realize it's
gonna take four to five years.
Uh, so, to keep the ip relevant, add more content.
Here's a essentially a stopgapgame, a spin-off game, if you
will exactly, but it still tiesand it's just not like the first
one, which I think was uniquetake.
But having a tiny these gamesalso gives people a reason to
actually go out and buy andactually play these games to to
maybe get more of aunderstanding of what was going
(02:13:03):
on with the story.
Even if it's not a one for onecanon, they still do what they
did with the other one.
I don't, I don't hate whatthey're doing with the, with the
higher warrior series.
I don't I don't.
I like these types of games andI hope they continue to.
Uh, yeah, uh, nintendo and koeitecmo continue to have this
relationship, because I think itworks out really well for for
both parties yeah, I mean itworks with the the fire emblem
(02:13:24):
series as well.
Brandon Hurles (02:13:25):
I mean it really
works there and there's enough
lore and characters deep intothe fire emblem series that you
could uh, you can make countlessgames for just fire emblem
alone.
So I mean it, it makes senseand like they did it with
persona and it worked forpersona too, and uh, it makes
(02:13:45):
sense like these type of gamesmake sense for certain series
where you can tell a little moreon the story of uh in a
different way, in a differentmanner, in a different style of
gameplay.
Mark Trobough (02:13:57):
Yeah.
Brandon Hurles (02:13:59):
So, yeah, I'm
definitely excited for it, for
sure.
Mark Trobough (02:14:03):
No, I am.
And then obviously, uh, we gota lot of stuff that was getting
more upgrades.
I brought up the?
Uh the Pokemon stuff earlier,uh, upgrades.
I brought up the?
Uh the pokemon stuff earlier,uh, but there's a lot of other
games that are getting someupgrades, so I was trying to try
to pull.
I didn't want to hit thatbutton.
I was trying to pull some otherstuff oh no, you're good.
Brandon Hurles (02:14:18):
Uh, mr coffee
said burnout paradise.
Yeah, that was the game I wasthinking of.
Mark Trobough (02:14:22):
Yeah all right,
shit, there we go, stop uh, so
some of the other ones.
So there were two main games,uh, that I was uh bringing up,
that we're getting not only theupscale but also essentially
extra stuff.
Obviously, the first one is agame that we played really liked
.
It's the uh super mario jamboree, uh essentially it's the switch
(02:14:44):
to addition plus jamboree tv,which is essentially using the
camera functionality, yeah, uh,for like a lot of these games
and stuff like that, as well asthe mouse.
This game felt like the primarygimmick for a lot of the new
features of the Switch 2, sincethey don't have a Switch 2
Sports.
Essentially, this was the gamethat they were doing to not only
(02:15:06):
add full sale or just a wholelot more content, but they're
using it to essentially showwhat the the switch to can do as
far as some of the some of thecamera functionality stuff.
Brandon Hurles (02:15:16):
Yes, I'm very,
very happy about this because we
really enjoyed this game andit's it's not often that we get
a new, a Mario party with extracontent, rather than just like a
whole new Mario party, and Ijust thought this game was done
so well.
It was the first one that Iloved as much as I did since,
like Mario party two and I likemost of the Mario party games
(02:15:39):
but I think that, like it justbrought back that Mario party
love that I used to have and wewe had so much fun playing this
game.
Like I want to stream thisagain sometime soon and like
this will be a perfect time tostream it as well.
Mark Trobough (02:15:56):
It might be a
little, a little bit harder with
the camera maybe, but I thinkthat, uh, I think this is a
makes so much sense so, yeah, Ican't imagine a whole lot of
games actually using the camerafunctionality, uh, but I think
it's a, it's a unique, uniqueway to kind of show, like, how
you could potentially use thiswith the switch hardware did you
see the hori uh branded piranhaplant camera I didn't know oh,
(02:16:16):
you gotta look see if you canshow that on screen.
Brandon Hurles (02:16:18):
I want people to
see that it's really.
Mark Trobough (02:16:20):
But we do know,
like you don't have to buy
nintendo's camera.
I think they say any kind oflike webcam with the usbc
plug-in will will essentiallywork.
Brandon Hurles (02:16:28):
Uh, unless you
want nintendo's camera for
whatever reason, yeah hold on,I'll see if I can pull this up
real quick.
This is really cool.
Like I, I'll buy both.
I'll buy the regular one andthis one, just this one for the
collection.
But, um, this is really reallysuch a neat, neat idea.
Let's pull it up here.
So check this out.
(02:16:51):
So this is officially licensed.
This is a camera.
It's a piranha plant thatcloses up too.
Mark Trobough (02:16:59):
If you don't want
, if you want a camera but you
want it to like blend in orsomething.
Just want the the black camera,just right.
Brandon Hurles (02:17:06):
Isn't that such
a cool idea?
Mark Trobough (02:17:07):
I think it's a
unique idea that she did done
with the, with the main camerapersonally, but I mean I'll buy
both.
Brandon Hurles (02:17:12):
I'll buy this
just to keep as like collection
piece and use the other one aslike my camera for the console,
but I think that's so coolenough.
Mark Trobough (02:17:20):
Yeah, I thought
that was really really cool uh,
and then the other game that'snot only get the getting
essentially a switch to editionplus extra content is kirby in
the Land.
It's getting a Star-CrossedWorld content.
I can bring up the trailer.
Excellent game, it's definitelya game.
Brandon Hurles (02:17:37):
I haven't.
This is like a semi.
It's not a true open-world game, but it's like a semi
open-world Kirby game thatreally works Like the one I had
the most fun with in a long time.
Mark Trobough (02:17:55):
Yeah, and I'm
glad that for some of these
games it's not just a here'ssome more graphics and it
performs better, but here's likeactual new, new content coming
to this, like putting someeffort into releasing us on the
adding a lot more content, causeI don't know if if this is just
more content for the switch tothe day, it's Because I don't
know if this is just morecontent for the Switch 2.
It's better with the hardware orif they were actually taking
advantage of some of the otherstuff, like the Mario Kart,
(02:18:19):
which I don't think it was.
I've not played the game so Ican't really speak a whole lot
about it, but it's always goodto see that you're getting more
content, essentially, so you'regetting more bang for your buck.
You're, you know, paying tendollars or whatever they're
going to charge just for it toperform better, unless it's
pokemon and it absolutely rightthey're giving you value for it,
which nintendo is good at doing.
Brandon Hurles (02:18:37):
Yeah, they're
good.
They're good with doing valuethey give you.
Uh, they do give you value withtheir games yeah.
Mark Trobough (02:18:46):
So I don't know
whether it's uh just more of a
reason to buy the switch to andstuff like that, but it's uh,
you know, always love to see seemore content.
Yeah, I think it's just more ofa reason to buy the Switch 2
and stuff like that, but it's,you know, always love to see
more content.
Brandon Hurles (02:18:53):
Yeah, I think
it's really cool that they're
adding additional content on topof the improvements of the
games and the frame rates andresolution bumps.
Mark Trobough (02:19:02):
Yeah, and then
obviously, if you don't already
know, some of the other gamesthat are getting essentially
more performance upgrades.
It's Prime 4 Beyond will have aSwitch 2 version.
So it's uh, prime for beyondwill have a switch to version.
So it's obviously developed forthe switch one, but it'll have
better ideally betterperformance on the switch to
also looks much better like itlooks.
Yeah, I think these would justhave better hardware and stuff
like that.
So it's it's good that we'rehaving essentially a a better
(02:19:25):
version of the game and stufflike that.
Legends, those, those gamesaren't surprising.
They're probably gonna be thetwo big holiday titles that come
out for the Switch at thispoint yeah, I think so too.
As well as not shockingly Breathof the Wild and Tears of the
Kingdom, which I do thinkdefinitely perform, will perform
better with the hardware,especially if you've ever played
Breath of the Wild and you'rein the Korok Forest.
Brandon Hurles (02:19:45):
That game just
was so, that area just yeah, it
chugs there well yeah, the one,the one, um, the one thing I
noticed tears looking, Iactually saw way less of the
chugging with tears of thekingdom, but when, what would
chug is when you were, you wereflying down like it, frank, you
could see frame.
Mark Trobough (02:20:05):
Yeah, so I'm
trying to load a lot of stuff.
Yeah, so I hopefully this issuewould just make at the very
least.
I just want something that justis a completely smoother
experience yeah, because outsideof that issue, those games are
really good they're very goodgames at times you could realize
it's pushing the limits of whatthe hardware can really do,
especially with an open worldgame.
It was like, yeah, this, this,this, 2017, 2016, uh tears of
(02:20:28):
the kingdom is really.
Brandon Hurles (02:20:29):
Kingdom is
officially my favorite game of
all time, so I'm always excitedto see that we're getting a
better version of that game.
Mark Trobough (02:20:38):
I hope they not
only do they give you an upgrade
, but you're getting more.
It'd be cool to get someadditional content.
Brandon Hurles (02:20:46):
It's possible
because we got DLC for Breath of
the Wild but we never did forTears for some reason, so it's
possible.
Mark Trobough (02:20:52):
So if you're
going to pay to get better
performance, give people more ofa reason to buy the game.
Treat it essentially like a DLC, where you're getting that more
content as well.
There's always the chancebefore we don't.
I don't know if they did.
They give us the dates for allthese upgrades or these just
like.
Brandon Hurles (02:21:06):
I don't know
actually, to be honest with you,
that's a great question.
I don't remember.
Mark Trobough (02:21:10):
to be honest, I
know we were watching it and we
were seeing it, but it would benice to see that these games
also come.
But if they come out at launch,I feel like we would have heard
it by now.
If they come out later in theyear, hopefully when they give
us the next Direct, they'll belike oh yeah, here's more
content.
So there's an actual reason andgive.
Brandon Hurles (02:21:33):
So there's an
actual reason and give people
less of a reason to complainabout paying for a better
performance.
I don't see an actualconfirmation on a date, but, um,
they did for obviously Kirbyand Jamboree.
Mark Trobough (02:21:41):
That they
obviously verified.
There's more content comingCause Kirby comes August 28th
and Jamboree comes July 24th.
Brandon Hurles (02:21:48):
The other thing
that we didn't bring up is that
they're actually making a map,now available on your phone to
find all the shrines and theKorok seeds.
Mark Trobough (02:21:57):
Yeah, I don't
know if it's just for that or
that's what they use todemonstrate it, but a way,
because it's like a big map, soit's like, oh, you can look at
it, because it's maybe not onscreen, but at least it says, oh
, you're going here, turn thisway, or something like that,
which is essentially taking thewii u concept.
Brandon Hurles (02:22:10):
That was the one
plus side of breath of the wild
on the wii u is that you hadthe game pad, you know which was
.
You know it didn't didn't runquite as well.
It didn't run bad.
I would say I think it's fun.
On the wii u, I played on thewii u and the switch, but uh,
yeah, I like that they're takingthat concept of having that
dual screen there for the mapand being able to use that,
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because that could be very, veryhelpful, you know, without
having to keep pulling the mapup and finding the shrines and
finding the Korok seeds and allthat stuff.
I think it was really cool.
Mark Trobough (02:22:43):
I don't know if
we have like a trailer or any
screenshots of that, but Nothingthat was like immediate,
because those games are justit's more of like a comparison
to the originals.
What some of those videos arefor, and the trailers were
obviously were pretty short, butjust because we did get the
confirmation.
Uh, metroid prime 4 will beable to hit 4k at 60 fps or 1080
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at 120 with the switch toperfect, which is really nice to
see that game already lookedreally good.
With 60 fps at 4k, I think willbe absolutely amazing.
My tv can't do 4k but it's gladit's good it's being able to
well, I will say.
Brandon Hurles (02:23:18):
I mean like
there's got to eventually be a
reason for you to want toupgrade to a my tv's like six to
eight years.
Yeah, but do you gain thispoint.
Do you often game on your tv ordo you game more on a?
Mark Trobough (02:23:31):
monitor Depends.
If I'm playing a console game,it's on my TV.
If I'm playing any other gameon the PC.
Brandon Hurles (02:23:38):
You see that way
for me, but now I just play
everything on a monitor.
Mark Trobough (02:23:41):
I play my
Nintendo or my Switch and my
PlayStation for consoleexclusives, and anything that's
not an exclusive I play on my PC.
Brandon Hurles (02:23:52):
Gotcha, I mean,
eventually there will be
something that will come alongfor you to want to invest in, I
mean 4K is affordable now Muchmore affordable.
You can get a 4K screen for acouple hundred bucks now at this
point but there definitely willbe something that will be like
okay, I want to see the beautyof this game.
I want to see, I really want tosee how this game looks Now for
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me.
I will now.
They did announce they did notsay this for Metroid Prime per
se, but we did get confirmationof a 1440p mode on the console
itself as well.
So that's good too, because1440p, while it may not be a
drastic improvement over 1080p,is a very noticeable improvement
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over 1080p.
I just compared, like earliertoday, 1080p monster under wilds
to 1440p and it is, it's.
It's actually a much biggerjump than you think it would be.
It truly is.
It really does look a lotbetter.
So, seeing that in 4K at 60, Idon't even know what mode would
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I want to play more, becauseit's like for a game like
Metroid Prime, where it's kindof a Twitch-esque game.
As far as a shooter, I wouldprobably opt to play that.
Mark Trobough (02:25:14):
I want to try
both modes.
Brandon Hurles (02:25:14):
I think I would
probably opt for the 120 frames
per second mode myself I guessit just depends try both, but
this, this one.
Mark Trobough (02:25:21):
I feel like we'll
play more like an actual
shooter for the first time inthe prime series, because primes
one and two, and I guesstechnically three as well, were
less twitch and it was more well, I don't mean, they were always
like the combat especially well, the combat, especially on the
gamecube, just the way it wasdesigned, because you
essentially only had the onejoy-con.
Yeah, it was designed with lockon combat, more or less you
could look up and down, but mostof the combat was you're just
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going to lock on to each yeah,so, like you're fighting, this
might even be a game where, like4k actually 4k 60 is is is good
enough on the frame rate andactually like an actual, a
modern fps, not not thelimitation, because I would love
to see this in 4k.
Brandon Hurles (02:25:57):
I mean the.
The jump we've talked about itmany times but like that jump
from seeing the first metroidprime game was crazy, but then
seeing metroid prime remasteredhow much better that looked was
crazy.
Mark Trobough (02:26:11):
And that one
times better and it's crazy.
And that one was 4K and it'scrazy as you look back on the
original trailer, like Iremember first playing Metroid
Prime 1 thing and those graphicsblew my mind back in 2003.
Like it can't get any betterthan that, like we thought that
and now it just looks so old,antiquated, and the new ones are
like oh, this looks so muchbetter.
Brandon Hurles (02:26:39):
Like, if I saw
these new graphics back then, I
think my head would have blownup.
I mean, if I want to see whatmetroid prime looks like in 4k,
I truly do so.
Like for me, like I'm, I amwith you where I have a 4k tv,
but it's not a vrr and it's not.
It doesn't.
It's not 120 hertz or any ofthat stuff, so it's just plain
4k um.
But I I am going to get a 4kmonitor and this is one of the
reasons why is because I want tocheck this stuff out.
But monster hunter is also areason why I really want to see
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the, the full potential of thatum resolution wise.
But like the switch too isgoing to be a big reason why I
do want to get 4k, becausethere's some of these games
where it's like playing, forinstance, you know, when we get
the sequel to super marioodyssey, like seeing mario and
4k something I could have neverimagined would be, just like a
(02:27:23):
monumental thing for me to seethese nintendo games in 4k,
something I just thought I wouldnever see.
Mark Trobough (02:27:30):
You know, you
kind of came to the conclusion,
like I don't know if nintendo'sever gonna make a console that
can even do that and right,that's what we thought, the way
they were going with the switch.
It's like yeah, I mean 1080pit's, but to see, metroid prime
4 and 4k to me.
Brandon Hurles (02:27:45):
I don't even
have a 4k monitor to me.
That is worth investing in thatahead of time to see that in 4k
I mean mean to be fair.
Mark Trobough (02:27:53):
I bought the
Switch originally just for
Metroid Prime 4.
Brandon Hurles (02:27:57):
I remember yeah.
Mark Trobough (02:27:58):
And we went the
whole life cycle without having
it.
I guess technically now, but atthis point playing on the
Switch 2 will be the equivalent.
Brandon Hurles (02:28:04):
But I mean, I
think the wait might be worth it
because from what we've seen onthis it looks phenomenal and
I'm curious on the new gimmickof the psychic powers.
I like the new suit design.
I think it looks really good.
I think it does.
Yeah, I think it looks reallyreally good.
Mark Trobough (02:28:22):
Not quite as good
as Definitely we need a portion
of this game where we can playas Zero Suit Samus.
That's what I want in this game.
That's the most boring Samus,though, oh my god, that's what I
want in this game.
That's the most boring Samus,though, oh my God, this guy Not
the whole game, just a smallportion.
Redesign her Zero suit, don'tmake it look like it's a Samus.
Brandon Hurles (02:28:37):
In 4K.
Now in 4K.
Mark Trobough (02:28:39):
Give me all of
Samus' glory in 4K.
Brandon Hurles (02:28:42):
Oh my gosh,
You're something else, man,
you're something else.
It goes all the way back to theNess version.
The first game, yeah, no.
But seriously, switch 2 is areason that I actually do want
to invest in having a 4K monitornow, because before I kind of
just didn't care as much.
We talked about it before,where 1440p is good enough for
(02:29:06):
me.
I care more about frame rate,which I still do, but there are
some of these games where Iwould actually love to see if it
runs 4k 60, not 4k 30.
Even better, if it ran 4k 30 Iwould 100 play the frame rate
mode.
But running 4k 60, 60 is goodenough for me, and to see it in
4k, that's awesome, even better.
(02:29:29):
It's just something I couldhave never imagined.
So, um, but it'd be a differentstory if it was 4k 30, because
then I wouldn't want to playthat mode, but 4k 60 all day.
Yeah, I, I want to see that in4k I truly do 100 as well as we.
Mark Trobough (02:29:45):
Another.
Another big feature that we'regetting that essentially we
haven't really seen.
I don't think, I don't think itwas on the 3ds, but the
original ds, which was a gamesharing feature, essentially so
like one person has a copy ofthe game and then you can play a
limited version of that gamewith other people and local
co-op essentially that are, likeyou know, right near you, uh
with uh with uh, the ds'sdownload play, whether it was
(02:30:06):
near a bunch of people, or yougo to like walmart or gamest and
download that game.
Brandon Hurles (02:30:10):
Essentially I
love that feature.
I love that feature.
I remember Super Mario 64 DShad that feature where you could
play a bunch of the mini gameswith other people.
And I love that feature becausewe got to experience more games
and we also got to like kind oftest drive games and see if
it's something we wanted, that afriend had.
And you know we were kids so wewe all couldn't afford
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everything.
So it was neat to have thatfeature where you can try the
game.
Mark Trobough (02:30:39):
And then, if you
look at the actual trailer for
this and stuff like that andwhat they showed, uh, they
showed that it wasn't.
They say it's a software update.
I don't know how they're goingto do it, but in the trailer
they showed the.
I don't know.
Is this exclusive to the Switch2, or will it let you play on
the Switch 1 at all?
Brandon Hurles (02:30:59):
I think it's
Switch 2 exclusive to GameShare.
Mark Trobough (02:31:03):
It would be nice
if they allowed you to use the
Bluetooth and do it with theSwitch 1, but I still think it's
a neat thing and stuff likethat that you're able to play
across, to just share, becauseit's just like yeah and maybe
it's like a fun little.
Like it came something like abomb ransom you could play real
quick and stuff like that.
Brandon Hurles (02:31:19):
So one thing I
was thinking about too.
I thought about this after,because we talked about it while
we were live covering thenintendo direct.
But the game chat feature, Ifeel like it could grow on me,
Cause I kind of get the.
I get what they're going for.
It's not per se like somethingI'm you know, it is, but it's
(02:31:41):
like within the game.
It could be.
This could be very interestingfor streams.
This can be very interestingfor literally just meeting up
with your buddies and playing.
Mark Trobough (02:31:52):
I think it's neat
but like I think, outside of
just the voice chat, I thinkmost everything else is very
niche and won't be used reallyall that often.
Brandon Hurles (02:31:59):
I don't think
you're playing the game.
You're like I don't know how todo this.
Mark Trobough (02:32:01):
Show me show me
what you're trying to do and I
can kind of help you out ortrying to find something.
But I think for the most, goingto be the the voice, the voice
chat's really all people reallywanted and that's what most
people are going to end up usingit for.
I think the camera stuff isnice but like with how low the
frame rate is going to be andstuff like that with the camera,
like I don't care if I see yourface at the bottom of the
screen.
I get what they're going with,with trying to re-emulate the
(02:32:23):
couch co-op.
I just don't think most peopleare going to are going to care
or use it or have a camera like.
Brandon Hurles (02:32:27):
So yeah, I think
it'll definitely be one of
those features, kind of like hdrumble, where it's like uh it's
there, but it doesn't reallyit's there but it doesn't get
used as much.
But it would be interesting tosee what they do with it.
They do use it in a right way,like it could be pretty cool.
I mean, is it?
Is it designed, you know,really for me not necessarily,
but it doesn't mean that I won'ttry this out, because some of
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the um, some of the games theyshowed off doing this with,
could really make sense for likestreams, like community streams
, playing with other people onyou know what I mean.
Like playing with other peoplein the community on stream, like
that could be really fun.
Like a Mario Party game, youknow, like playing Mario Party
like this could be reallyinteresting.
(02:33:10):
Like a game like that or likeMario Kart or you know things
like that could be, couldactually be pretty interesting.
Mark Trobough (02:33:21):
No, I agree
completely.
And you know what, the more Ilooked into it, the more that
this next game didn't reallysurprise me with how hard
Nintendo had been going withother games and over, like the
past, with the with their parkand stuff like that.
But the, the new Donkey Kong 3dgame that we haven't had in
like 64.
Yeah.
(02:33:41):
We've only ever had one but youknow, with with everything else
that we've gotten and stuff likethat, with their support, from
their, their actual park to someof the other and we're getting
a donkey yeah port from their,their actual park to some of the
other, and we're getting adonkey country games, yeah, and
the movie.
This doesn't surprise me asmuch.
It's just I don't think anybodyreally saw this coming or
anybody was even really talkingabout this even being a thing,
which is crazy I know, and youknow it's.
Brandon Hurles (02:34:02):
What's crazy is
that?
Um, as as much as I, I love my3d platformer.
It doesn't matter what it is,as long as it's fun, that's all
I care about.
But in my collectathons andthings like that, but to me,
because it's been so long sincewe've gotten a donkey kong game
like this, or really you couldsay we've never gotten one on
(02:34:23):
the scale of you know, don't youreally have.
Mark Trobough (02:34:25):
Most of them are
really I think most of them are
really just linear sidescrolling, yeah, even donkey
kong 64.
Brandon Hurles (02:34:31):
It's a
collectathon but it's linear,
like.
To me this is actually a littlemore exciting than just another
3d mario, because it's it's.
It's something completelydifferent, like this looks like
an almost open world-esque gamewhere it is like still linear,
you can tell, but it looks likethere's just.
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It looks like Super MarioOdyssey, but Donkey Kong.
Mark Trobough (02:34:56):
Yeah, it's one of
those games where you look back
on it and now you're like I'msurprised that Donkey Kong
really never got this much love.
Brandon Hurles (02:35:03):
Which it finally
could.
I mean maybe we finally willget the love that Donkey Kong,
it's like Donkey.
Mark Trobough (02:35:09):
Kong Country was
great games and then after the
64 they just kind of didn't careabout him for like a few
generations yeah, I mean he keptgetting the 2d games and stuff,
which are great, but he justwas not getting the love.
Brandon Hurles (02:35:22):
But that was the
era where 3d was the thing and
2d was just seen as like a, asecondary title, like a, a game
that just wasn't like main, likeyour main title you're gonna
invest a lot of money into like,uh, so for you, because this is
going to be like a 3d mariogame but donkey kong, donkey
kong characters and in thatworld, like, is this a game that
really interests you or is this, is this one, where you're?
Mark Trobough (02:35:44):
like I'll play it
either way and see, see how it
goes.
I'll play it, obviously once Ihave a switch too.
Brandon Hurles (02:35:50):
Yeah, but like I
guess I don't know, donkey Kong
has just always been that itwas there since the beginning,
but he's largely since the earlyera was just kind of relegated
to the sides as like anothercharacter in the multiplayer
series of games you know what,at first, when we first saw I
don't know if you remember theleaked image, but before we knew
(02:36:11):
about Marioio kart world, justthe fact that we are getting a
new mario kart when I first sawthe image of the redesign for
donkey kong, I absolutely hatedit.
Mark Trobough (02:36:21):
I didn't like it
at all because of what they were
doing with the movie and stuff.
Brandon Hurles (02:36:23):
Yeah, yeah, but
now, but now I get it.
I get what they're going for.
I understand.
I understand what they're goingfor now.
They're going for a moreuniversal look.
Where it's it's going to tieinto everything altogether, like
it makes sense.
Um, I didn't like it at first atall.
I really didn't, cause I'm soattached to that that original,
(02:36:45):
rare design of Donkey Kong.
But this makes sense and heactually is like more emotive,
like you can see more expressionin his faces when he's doing
stuff in the world, and even onthe cover for the game, for
instance.
Like you can see how much moreemotive he is in this particular
game.
That just makes it a littlemore interesting and something a
(02:37:08):
little different.
That I am.
I definitely want a new 3dmario, no doubt about that, but
I actually am happier to seethis something different and
something with an ip thatdeserves more love, and I think
we'll get more love because wegot the theme park, we're
getting the movie, we're gettinggetting this game, we got,
(02:37:31):
obviously, mario Kart World.
So they're really trying topump up this IP again, which is
what they need to do, because weneed more than just Mario.
Mark Trobough (02:37:42):
We've got a lot
of good stuff, but this was
definitely the one that I don'tthink anybody was expecting.
I think everyone saw it andthey were just assuming it was
the next Mario game.
Brandon Hurles (02:37:48):
People were
asked for years for a new 3D
Donkey Kong game and people justassumed it would never happen.
Mark Trobough (02:37:56):
Another one.
Brandon Hurles (02:37:59):
Willy Witter
said.
Games I want to see follow-upsto are Wave Race, blast Corps,
star Fox, just to name a few.
So much potential in the IPsthat have been asleep for a
while.
I agree F-Zero would be a bigone for agree, um, f0 would be a
big one.
For me, starfox would be a bigone then again.
Mark Trobough (02:38:14):
The last race,
that was starfox.
It just wasn't, probably wasn'tthe best game, and it was also
received terribly, so I think,starfox which is unfortunate,
has a chance.
Brandon Hurles (02:38:23):
It's a great ip.
It's a really good ip.
It's like everyone's just tooconnected to the 64 game starfox
64 I mean, yeah, I would saythe same for the snes game,
because it's, I would, I wouldsay, just as notorious right.
Mark Trobough (02:38:41):
I'd say the 64 is
really the one game most people
remember starfox for, andthat's where they say it peaked
I think of the snes game first,but I I do.
Brandon Hurles (02:38:48):
I don't know
anybody that would ever think of
the snes game.
Mark Trobough (02:38:50):
I think this snes
game was way before its time.
Brandon Hurles (02:38:52):
I because I went
back and played, I'm like this
is uh, it's the same game as a64, but the 64 is just better in
every aspect but regardless, Ithink that if starfox made a
proper comeback and they did itright and they really, you know,
really put their effort into it, it could take off.
I mean, it's very likablecharacters, you know what I want
willie.
Mark Trobough (02:39:13):
And what is it?
He brought up the wave race.
I was like wave where should begreat?
Brandon Hurles (02:39:16):
another new,
another hydro thunder which is
again outside of the arcades,just what was so cool about wave
race is that it was always likea um, it was always a launch
title for the, the consoleswhere it showed the water
physics, and it was amazing forthe time.
Do you remember wave race 64,seeing those water physics for
(02:39:39):
the first time?
Mark Trobough (02:39:40):
wave race blue
storm on the game cube.
Brandon Hurles (02:39:42):
Like the water,
physics are mind-blowing even
today.
Like the water, we don't evenget water physics like that now,
like they were mind, weremind-blowing.
To be fair, there's a lot more.
Mark Trobough (02:39:52):
The games are
more complicated than they were
back then.
That you have to deal with, butI understand what you're saying
.
Brandon Hurles (02:39:57):
Yeah, it would
be really cool, and a new Blast
Corps would be cool too.
Man, I would love to see themrevive some of these properties
that I think have just left thegarment.
Mark Trobough (02:40:07):
A smaller scale
game for smaller scale, $40 game
, I think would be just fine.
Brandon Hurles (02:40:13):
I just want to
know what are they doing with
F-Zero?
I don't understand.
We're getting F-Zero now withthe GameCube games, I guess
because we always said itcompetes too much with Mario.
Kart.
They want to focus on oneracing game, but now they're
doing Kirby Air Ride, which isthe same thing racing.
Mark Trobough (02:40:33):
Mario cart.
So like, if you're willing todo that with air ride, are you
willing to revisit F zero?
Brandon Hurles (02:40:39):
I see zero was
always serious racer.
Mark Trobough (02:40:42):
It was always
more of a single player games.
What it was where Mark Hart wasthe multiplayer game.
Brandon Hurles (02:40:47):
Yeah, and it was
a.
It was a party game at the endof the day.
It always has been a party.
This was an actual, just afast-paced single-player racing
game.
For the most part, and likeF-Zero 99, look, it's the only
99 game that's still around it'sdoing very well.
I play it every week to get mycoins.
Mark Trobough (02:41:03):
I guess people
want another F-Zero game.
Then again, how long ago didthat game come out?
F-zero, that was like a year,two years ago, I think.
Even though the name did lookgood like okay, let's make
another f-zero, it'd be tooearly to even get any kind of uh
decision on.
Like even if they started ayear afterwards in development,
well, you wouldn't have heardanything by now anyways.
(02:41:23):
So there's always a chance.
The next two, three years, ifthey are finally working on a
game, you'll finally hear aboutit.
You know later.
I just, even if they're workingon it right now, it's just too
early to come out and actuallysay anything, but it would be
nice.
Brandon Hurles (02:41:37):
Yeah, willie
says bring back Diddy Kong
Racing.
I agree.
I think Diddy Kong Racing is abetter game than Mario Kart 64.
Because it had an adventuremode and you could fly in planes
.
Mark Trobough (02:41:48):
I don't know.
I guess it depends on thecloser you get to mario kart.
Are they willing to do that, orwere they just?
Brandon Hurles (02:41:54):
I don't.
I don't know, because it's arare property you got to
remember mario kart, essentiallyit was a rare property for one
um, but doesn't the ip itselfbelong?
Mark Trobough (02:42:04):
it's all nintendo
characters, though they just
developed the game yeah, I justdon't.
Brandon Hurles (02:42:09):
When you say
competing with mario kart, that
one I do feel like is competing.
It's the closest one, I guess,air ride is not really the same.
Mark Trobough (02:42:17):
Obviously, f-zero
is its own thing, but you got
the phone.
Nintendo only wanted one, wherethey didn't want anything that
could potentially compete withmario kart without popular god,
so they just stayed away fromeverything which is it's a.
Brandon Hurles (02:42:27):
It's a real
bummer, because I love diddy
Kong Racing.
I love Diddy Kong Racing DS.
I love the adventure mode.
I thought it was so fun thatthere was an actual story mode
for it.
Mark Trobough (02:42:37):
I think you could
argue, as of right now, mario
Kart's, nintendo's most popular.
Brandon Hurles (02:42:42):
IP right now,
because 8 and 8 Deluxe are the
best on the Switch game.
Yeah, I mean, it is.
Mark Trobough (02:42:47):
It's sold over 50
million copies, I think
globally and its lifetime isinsane.
Brandon Hurles (02:42:57):
It it's sold
like it's sold over 50 million
copies, I think, world, globally, and it's, like you, insane.
It is absolutely insane.
Do you think that we get ananimal crossing new horizons?
Mark Trobough (02:43:01):
nintendo switch 2
edition, or do we just get a
chance?
It might get an upgrade, but tobe fair, I think a new animal
crossing game on exclusively onthe switch 2 would be preferred
I think you'll eventually getsome kind of like just update or
something like that or justgenerally run better.
But I think I think AnimalCrossing range is fine for the
most part on the switch.
Brandon Hurles (02:43:15):
Yeah, I was fine
, I had no problem.
Mark Trobough (02:43:16):
Bigger world,
something that's less like that,
more like maybe going back tolike the GameCube era games,
would be a lot better.
Brandon Hurles (02:43:23):
I would like to
see like a return, well, like
return to the like DS era ofAnimal Crossing, because I think
that's where it peaked for me.
Mark Trobough (02:43:32):
I think they
expected the one on the Switch
to be as popular as it was.
But I mean the way it wasdesigned.
You're sitting here like.
This was not designed as like abig game.
It was going to be that popular.
The game would have probablylooked and had a lot more
content and you know what'scrazy?
Brandon Hurles (02:43:50):
yeah, they never
did add like a ton of content
to it either.
It wasn't like they neverplanned to.
Mark Trobough (02:43:55):
But I think they
also.
I think Nintendo is one of thestudios that understood this
game's popular because it justhappened to come out during
COVID, yeah.
And so they were like, yeah,it's popular.
They knew the popular wasn'tgoing to last, so they
definitely limited.
They wasn't gonna last.
Brandon Hurles (02:44:09):
So they
definitely limited.
They just pocketed the moneyand limited the they could have
added so much more content tothat game, though like it could
still be alive and kicking, butuh, yeah, definitely, uh
definitely interesting to youknow see what happens there.
Mark Trobough (02:44:20):
So uh, but I mean
, if you're, it's not the same.
But uh, best buys is doing amidnight release for the Switch
2.
They say mini, so you have toprobably check locally but will
allow players who pre-ordered aSwitch 2 to essentially pick it
(02:44:40):
up at midnight on launch day.
So it's not the you still haveto wait in line to get it, but
you can still.
If you're able to pre-order itthrough Best Buy, you can still
at least do a form of a midnightlaunch, which is nice to
somewhat see that coming back inin some form, to the very least
uh, I don't know how you feelabout this.
Brandon Hurles (02:45:00):
Yeah, I, I don't
know.
Matt long six said he just cameback from watching the
minecraft movie.
I'm, I feel, I feel sorry foryou.
Mark Trobough (02:45:08):
I everything I've
seen, but like it kind of looks
what I expect and it justdoesn't look like a good movie.
But like I look the trailer forme wasn't good, but I don't
know.
Brandon Hurles (02:45:18):
Look I'm not a
minecraft fan anyway to begin
with, but uh there's no storyand no, no hate or anything that
anybody can enjoy the, themovie or whatever, but for me,
when I saw the trailer yeah,I'll try to crap on you, but
when I saw the trailer for thatmovie, it instantly said say
stay far away from watching thisI guess here's the better idea
(02:45:40):
I guess, if you're like a reallyyoung kid, you'd probably like
them.
Mark Trobough (02:45:43):
Yeah, sure, sure,
my first idea was like this
would have been better alldigital or all cg, um.
But let's be fair when it comesto adapting games and stuff
like that, there's far morefailures than there are
successes.
So we all just kind of had ourpreconceived notions.
Like it's another video gameadaptation, it's more than
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likely going to be bad.
So I guess the idea is, if yourexpectations are at the bottom.
Brandon Hurles (02:46:09):
they can only go
up, they can only go up.
But he says it's surprisinglygood, so maybe it is good, you
know I'm glad you liked it.
Mark Trobough (02:46:16):
You know, I'm
glad I don't care for, for jack
black all that much.
He just seems to be in.
Everything that's mediocre.
Brandon Hurles (02:46:22):
But I do like he
does, like jumanji and all that
crap like those are really badI think jason was a far better
actor, but I just, I don't knowthe the way that Minecraft
character to me exactly, butyeah.
Mark Trobough (02:46:36):
So I mean I guess
it should probably try to try
to watch this weekend.
At least give it a shot.
We can at least talk about itnext week.
Brandon Hurles (02:46:44):
So if you want
to do that, we'll do it.
Mark Trobough (02:46:46):
I mean, I
suffered my daughter it can't be
worse than that, god see, Ididn't even do that.
Brandon Hurles (02:46:53):
We were supposed
to, but we never got to talk
about it.
I forget why.
Mark Trobough (02:46:59):
For the best, the
movie was terrible.
Brandon Hurles (02:47:01):
I hated it.
If we actually plan to go dothis, then yeah, I'll take my
daughter and we'll talk about it.
We'll do our opinions on it.
Mark Trobough (02:47:08):
I guess it's
worthwhile.
It's not the worst thing, soit's.
You know at least one personsaying it's bad.
Actually, I can see what.
There's anything.
Brandon Hurles (02:47:18):
Any reviews on
it yeah, see what the like
rotten tomatoes or something ison it so the critical score on
rotten tomatoes is 48.
Mark Trobough (02:47:29):
This is another
one of those movies where the
the audience and the criticsdon't like it.
So it's a 48 from 108 reviews.
Brandon Hurles (02:47:35):
Critics it's an
85 with a thousand oh wow, way
higher than I would have thoughtof for audience.
Way higher than I would havebecause I did see that a few
days ago.
Mark Trobough (02:47:44):
The critical
review is 48 and people just
like, oh, maybe it actually willbe a good movie.
Well, that's not like that's atrend.
There are times where theaudience and the critics do
agree a lot of times.
But they saw that and I waslike maybe this is the time that
the critics are kind of rightabout it.
Brandon Hurles (02:48:00):
Do you want to
review Snow White?
Mark Trobough (02:48:03):
You couldn't pay
me enough money to go watch that
.
You realize that movie endswith a ditty party.
Essentially right the way thatthe movie is like that.
Brandon Hurles (02:48:11):
Did I tell you
that joke Everyone before all
the stuff came out about it,like when the.
This was like before it cameout and Rachel uh, I didn't know
anything about the actor Ididn't know about her yeah.
This is before all of that.
Right, I didn't know anythingabout it.
I just didn't know anythingabout it.
I like watching theseadaptations with my daughter.
(02:48:33):
She's enjoyed some of these,the Leland and Stitch one we're
really excited for.
I can't wait to watch that.
Mark Trobough (02:48:38):
She's going to
love that.
I wish she got that one rightand stuff like that they got the
right girl for it.
Brandon Hurles (02:48:42):
Stitch looks
good.
Mark Trobough (02:48:44):
I think that
one's going to be right, but
anyway, we like watching theseAre they actually tired of
losing money and they'reactually getting people that
know how to write a movie towrite movies for once, but we
were going to go watch this.
Brandon Hurles (02:48:53):
I was going to
take my daughter to go watch
this and like I opted to not doit anymore after everything that
I saw about it, I was just likeI I can't do it, I guess it's
reviewing.
Well, apparently, but uh yeah.
Anyway, it was packed andeveryone was repeating Jack
Black lines.
Well, that's good, I guessthere.
(02:49:13):
That's good to hear.
It was packed and everyone wasrepeating Jack Black lines.
Mark Trobough (02:49:15):
Well, that's good
.
I guess that's good to hear.
I have to pick a late nightmovie.
I'm weird.
I don't mind matinee movies,but I kind of enjoy being the
only person in the theater whenI go watch a movie at night.
Brandon Hurles (02:49:24):
I do too.
I get annoyed the weekend stuffwith the phones and the
loudness.
Mark Trobough (02:49:30):
He's just nice
being the only one in there and
stuff like that, Cause there'sless people and stuff like that
and it's just I don't know.
It feels like you got thetheater to yourself.
Brandon Hurles (02:49:36):
Yeah, for sure,
for sure, I feel it, I feel it
all right, what else we got?
Mark Trobough (02:49:44):
now mr coffee
said uh, minecraft moves made
for kids like roblox, minecraftand tiktok.
I only like one of those things.
I don't mind.
Minecraft's a decent opensandbox game.
I don't.
I don't mind it, but it's agame.
You go through uh phases ofwanting to play it for a few
weeks and you won't touch it fora few months my daughter loves
roblox and she enjoys minecraft,but I do not let her.
(02:50:05):
I remember, I remember that gamewas still out when we were in
high.
I remember being in high school, middle school, and that game
being out.
Brandon Hurles (02:50:10):
I know you
brought it up.
It came out in what?
2008 or something.
Mark Trobough (02:50:17):
It's a really old
game.
I remember At least still inhigh school, and that game being
out, it's a really old game.
I'm surprised it's even stillaround.
Surprisingly, it's a really oldgame.
Brandon Hurles (02:50:25):
I'm surprised
it's even still around,
surprisingly, I know it seemslike maybe the popularity is not
really left, maybe a little.
Mark Trobough (02:50:32):
Minecraft is
still a really popular game.
It makes a lot of money.
Brandon Hurles (02:50:35):
Yeah, it comes
out on every system.
Mark Trobough (02:50:37):
Yeah, but
obviously, outside of Going back
to some of the Switch stuff,outside of the Nintendo games,
we had what's it?
Another 20 confirmed games atlaunch.
Some of these are Nintendogames, Some of these are third
party.
A lot of these are ports andstuff like that.
So you had Arcade Archives 2Ridge Racer it's always good to
(02:50:58):
see another Ridge Racer BarelyDefault Flying Ferry.
Brandon Hurles (02:51:03):
HD.
Brave Lister Barely.
Mark Trobough (02:51:04):
Default, barely
Default, bravely Default.
Flying fairy, hd, brave, whichbarely default, barely bravely
default.
My bad, I'm not dyslexic, butapparently I am sometimes.
Uh, we're getting the nintendoswitch 2 edition of civ 7, which
I you couldn't pay me enough toplay that game.
Uh, cyberpunk 2077, ultimateedition, which I can't that's
really cool, that's really.
I mean, it's gonna I know theperformance is around 30 to 40
(02:51:25):
frames per second, but likethat's not why I won't buy this
game.
I can't.
That's really cool, that'sreally.
I mean it's gonna.
I know the performance isaround 30 to 40 frames per
second, but like that's not whyI won't buy this game.
I can't play that game becauseI the game's so much better
modded.
It's kind of like skyrim.
Brandon Hurles (02:51:35):
I can't play the
vanilla version I don't even
know how to mod a game, yet uh,it's.
Mark Trobough (02:51:39):
It's not the
easiest game to mod, but I think
it's worthwhile.
Uh, delta rune is coming to theswitch.
Uh, fast fusion.
Uh, kunitsu gami, path of thegoddess, if I didn't butcher
that.
Uh, hitman, world ofassassination, hogwarts legacy,
obviously, maru kart world.
Uh, nintendo switch to welcometour, which should be a packing
(02:52:01):
game should be a packing game.
I cannot believe they'reselling nobody's paying for that
game if it's not a free.
I cannot believe they'reselling that game that10.
Brandon Hurles (02:52:07):
I cannot believe
they're selling that game.
That is such a tech duo.
It's such it's like Astro'sPlayroom where they go through
the Playstation history.
Mark Trobough (02:52:17):
But they gave you
that game like it was good
because they gave you it.
Brandon Hurles (02:52:23):
I can't believe
they're actually trying to sell
it.
Who's going to buy it?
Mark Trobough (02:52:28):
what's it going
to be?
Five dollars, because itshouldn't be more than that
that's.
Brandon Hurles (02:52:30):
I think you said
10.
Mark Trobough (02:52:31):
I think you said
10, nobody's like five people
are going to pay for that justto just to play it, and they're
going to lose money on that?
Brandon Hurles (02:52:38):
yeah, they
should.
Mark Trobough (02:52:40):
That should be a
pack and for what it is like
come on uh 100 should be uhnobanuga's ambition uh awake oh,
we were just talking about thisseries yeah, we, I think we
talked about during the livestream yeah, we did because,
like, there's like so many gamesof that, uh puyo puyo, tetris
2s, uh, rune factory, guardiansof azuma and attender switch 2
(02:53:02):
edition, that one I'll bepicking up.
Oh yeah, split Fiction, streetFighter VI which I'm sure caught
a lot of people off guard, thatthat's actually on a Nintendo
system Survival Kids, breath ofthe Wild and Tears of the
Kingdom, switch 2 Edition, andthen Yakuza 0, director's Cut,
which hopefully means we'regetting more Yakuza, all the
(02:53:23):
Yakuza games, coming over.
Brandon Hurles (02:53:24):
That'd be great.
That, which hopefully meanswe're getting more yakuza all
the yakuza games coming over,that'd be great.
That was a really random one,though it seems like uh, I just
did not see that one coming.
Mark Trobough (02:53:31):
But no, that's
good as far as a nintendo switch
to exclusive game, for nintendoit's only mario kart world and
some uh switch to additions forswitch one games which about
healthy amount of ports andother third-party games that
will be there at launch.
Yeah, so, on top of havingmostly backwards compatibility
because I know they say there'ssome games that were having some
levels of issues uh, there's adecent level of games if you
(02:53:53):
only had access to switch to anddidn't want to buy switch one
games exclusively, essentially.
Brandon Hurles (02:53:58):
So, uh, you
can't forget welcome to war,
that's.
I think that's a first party.
Mark Trobough (02:54:03):
I don't know this
is like best launch title,
especially when it comes tofirst party games, which is only
Mario.
Brandon Hurles (02:54:08):
Kart.
Mario Kart World is a prettybig one, though.
Mark Trobough (02:54:11):
Mario Kart is
probably their most popular and
profitable IP right now.
Brandon Hurles (02:54:14):
Yeah, that seems
like a really big launch title.
To me.
This seems like maybe thebiggest Mario Kart game since
launch.
Mark Trobough (02:54:22):
Looking back now,
it's not surprising.
This is a launch title.
Brandon Hurles (02:54:32):
It's a really
popular ip.
So yeah, I mean I think that'sa pretty good selection of games
to launch with for the for dayone.
I mean for day one, that'spretty good.
Mark Trobough (02:54:37):
There's been
plenty of consoles where we've
gotten way less than that on dayone so the other big titles
coming, obviously about a littleover a month later you're
getting Donkey Kong and thenyou're getting a Metroid Prime 4
and Pokemon Legends, EA cominglater in the year.
So I think they did a nice jobwith staggering their major
games.
Brandon Hurles (02:54:54):
I think so too.
Mark Trobough (02:54:55):
You've got a
month between Mario Kart World
and Donkey Kong and thenprobably a few months you're
going to get Metroid Prime andthen Pokemon games.
So they're staggering theirmajor releases for 2025.
Brandon Hurles (02:55:05):
Yeah, I think
they've got a good plan for this
, I feel confident that thoseare the only major titles that
are coming out.
Mark Trobough (02:55:12):
If there is a
Mario game coming out, it's
probably going to come outsometime in 2026.
I would assume.
So, with the Donkey Kong gamecoming out, not that many people
are going to have access to ityear one.
So you're willing to wait towait to release more.
Brandon Hurles (02:55:26):
You know major
titles I feel like a 3d mario.
They don't want to compete withthe 3d donkey kong the same
year.
Mark Trobough (02:55:33):
No, I think they,
that's at the very least, you'd
want several months betweenthose two games, so they're not,
like you know, affecting salesor the other, because, like,
let's be fair, outside of peoplelike you and me, most people
aren't buying more than ahandful, like three to five,
probably a year and stuff likethat, yeah, even looking back
when you're a kid, your parentsyou'd have like maybe five to
eight games for a console andthat's like all you had.
(02:55:54):
Yeah, but most people aren'tbuying, like you know, five
games a month at this point iswhat it feels like, sometimes.
Brandon Hurles (02:56:00):
Even though
there's some months, some months
like, yeah, some months there'snothing, but yeah for sure,
there's all kinds of stuff, man,all kinds of stuff coming out.
So I guess, to ask you, out ofall of these, I thoroughly
believe that you would enjoy theBravely Default series.
Have you not played it yet?
Mark Trobough (02:56:21):
I have not played
it.
Brandon Hurles (02:56:22):
I think it's a
JRPG series that you would love,
so I feel like that one isright up your alley.
I really do think you wouldseriously enjoy that one, but I
guess, speaking on all thetitles here, what piques your
interest about grabbing day oneBesides Mario Kart?
Mark Trobough (02:56:41):
Probably the
Zelda upgrades and stuff like
that, because most of thosethird-party games I can play
elsewhere and I probably wouldstill prefer to play them
elsewhere, like on PC and stufflike that, cause most of those
third party games I can playelsewhere and I probably would
still prefer to play themelsewhere, like like on PC or
something like that.
But I think it'd probably thator one of those few titles that
are that I just haven't played,maybe, but it's it's.
It's.
It's a really small list, justcause most of those games I can,
if I can, if I rather buy itand play it on PC.
(02:57:03):
But that's like a personalthing.
I mean, there's obviously someother games, because you're
getting the new From Softwaregame, which I've never been big
on their games since the early2000s, since the Darks of the
Era kind of took over, but Imean I'm sure that's a game
that's worth looking into, thefact that Switch is getting its
own.
Would you pick up Split Fictionwith me and play through that
(02:57:25):
one as a stream, because that'slike a stream type game where
you got to play with somebody,and I've heard great things
about the game too, or it'sreally really like I just I'd
have to go back and look, Idon't know enough, like brevity
thought, like I don't reallyknow a whole lot about the game,
so I'd have to go back andactually like, look at the
trailer, be like, would this bein the act?
Brandon Hurles (02:57:42):
there's not that
many games too, so it's
actually a little bit easier forfor you.
There's only a few games, so itwould be a yeah, an easier one
to get into, but it's somethingyou would enjoy.
Mark Trobough (02:57:53):
So yeah, and then
, uh, as far as like the last
little stuff, because we got twothings left to talk about uh,
this is like switch stuff.
Uh, there are apparently a fewfeatures on the switch that
require an update to work atlaunch, and these updates are
apparently coming at launch.
So the first one is the supportfor the micro SD express cards.
We'll need an update to work,as well as the surround sound
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effect, and it's a built-inspeakers.
Brandon Hurles (02:58:19):
I don't.
I guess we don't.
It does have the 3d spatialaudio.
I forgot.
Yeah, that's good.
Mark Trobough (02:58:25):
So we don't know
if these were.
They were stuff they're stillworking on and it's just like
we'll update it later, or ifthis is maybe a way to.
We don't know if there's otherthings that might need an update
, but this is maybe a way thatwe've talked about.
Like, how do you combat peoplepotentially getting games in a
console early?
Yeah well, you lock stuffbehind stuff where this needs to
connect online before certainthings will work, which I know
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has always been a contentiousissue.
Brandon Hurles (02:58:49):
but, like yeah,
I'm not particularly a fan of
the concept.
Mark Trobough (02:58:54):
I get this is a
problem, but let's be fair,
especially with the earlyadopters At this point.
How many people don't have easyaccess to some form of an
internet connection?
Brandon Hurles (02:59:04):
Because I've
opened myself up to pc gaming,
I've become a lot less tighterabout that.
Mark Trobough (02:59:11):
Um, I don't like
it when dial-up was still a
thing.
But, like, let's be fair, theamount of people that this would
probably negatively affect isbecoming smaller.
But how connected are just?
The world in general isbecoming.
I think this is becoming lessof an issue and it will become
more of a strategy.
If you're worried about maybeconsoles and games leaking is,
(02:59:31):
there's an update that needs toactually unlock it before you
can even do anything.
There's some level of stuffthat has to get downloaded to
allow you to actually play thegame.
Yeah, and I I know people willcomplain about it and there's a
whole host of potential issuesmore with the game side than
with the consoles.
But, like, while peoplecomplain about it, this probably
would affect, at least in theusa, hyper minority of people
(02:59:54):
and people that probablywouldn't even get this on day
one and stuff like that.
Early adopters like I justdon't.
I don't think it's that big ofan issue.
It's just a thing that well,you don't want to see it, but
it's kind of an inevitableinevitability and, especially
with with the leaks over thepast year than the titans had to
deal with, it wouldn't besurprising if, especially for
some of their maybe their majorgames, this is the route they
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start going, because it's reallythe only way to keep people
from potentially playing yourgame early, as you have some
form of a hard lock that thegame can't be properly accessed.
I know it's an there's a wholepotential load of issues, but
with it's the same thing withdigital games.
I think another way that thiscan be combated is going all
(03:00:38):
digital, and I think you'regoing to go there kicking and
screaming, but kind of like withAI and a lot of other things,
in about 10 to 20 years, I thinkvideo gaming's going all
digital and I get the issue.
Brandon Hurles (03:00:52):
We're already
going that way we'll be, you
know, really embracing pc.
Mark Trobough (03:00:56):
It's already been
that way for like probably over
a decade on pc gaming going alldigital and stuff like that.
The way steam deals with it iseven if some games are unlisted,
obviously you still have accessto the game to kind of like
redownload.
You just can't buy it.
Brandon Hurles (03:01:10):
There are issues
, one big problem with the
digital only thing for PC is nownot all services offer or put
games out this way.
The DRM is a huge issue for mewith Steam.
I love Steam's UI.
I think it's great.
(03:01:30):
I'm building up my Steamlibrary, but my GOG library is
significantly more, because DRMdoes nothing but bog the game
down.
It often causes problems forthe game and makes it worse this
is the way things are going.
Mark Trobough (03:01:47):
It's, it's really
an inevitability at this time.
It's not a matter of if, it's amatter of when uh, it is like,
but I wanted let's just be fair.
We're not in the same world.
We were back in the 80s and 90swith physical gaming and as
much as we want to complainabout there it's easier with
digital games are gettingthey're getting pirated.
That's where a large part ofthe game preservation is going
(03:02:07):
to be.
But if you really think ofpeople like the general consumer
, who doesn't interact with thismedium the way that we do,
they're kind of already headedthere.
They don't really care.
They're going to play yourMaddens, your FIFAs, maybe not
Assassin's Creed as much, butthey're going to play those
handful of major titles a yearand they're going to pick it up
(03:02:28):
maybe once a week, play it withsome friends and they might not
touch it for like two weeks andstuff like that.
The average consumer is slowlygetting to the point where they
just don't care as much and Ibelieve at this point the
minority of people like us thatthink the way we do that don't
like it, complain about it.
But you kind of have to come toan understanding.
Brandon Hurles (03:02:49):
I mean, I was
even hesitant to buy.
Mark Trobough (03:02:50):
This is the way
things are going and you're not
really going to stop it.
When these studios just decidethis is what we're doing, take
it or leave it.
You're just going to eitheraccept it or you're just going
to be stuck with playing oldergames at that point, yeah, I at
that point, yeah, I was likeeven hesitant.
Brandon Hurles (03:03:09):
Now the decision
I made is that I will buy it
physically still regardless,because I'm a huge fan of the
series.
But I was like very hesitant toeven buy monster hunter on pc
when I I knew I wanted it on pcbecause I knew is where I was
going to play it the best.
Right, like I knew that.
But it was like it's one ofthose series where I always get
it physically and it's one thatI just love enough to have
(03:03:29):
physically, so I'm just going toget it at a later date at a
cheaper price on ps5 that's whatI've done with a lot of games
like I prefer to play on pc,especially now I'm upgrading my
graphics card and stuff like Ireally want to.
Yeah, I really want to test thisstuff out it's.
Mark Trobough (03:03:45):
It's even the
same thing on pc, like if you're
willing to wait a few years youcan get it cheaper, even on the
digital.
But like yeah you're willing to.
You want it brand new.
If you're willing to wait a fewyears and get a used copy, you
can get a game a few years downthe road for like 20 30 bucks
physical for like ps5 or ps4 andstuff like that, assuming it's
in good condition and it's notnot the worst thing if you want
a physical down the road andlike to be fair.
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I played a lot of gamesdigitally and what some games.
I'm like I got about thisdigitally.
Well, maybe not as much, butlike if I bought this physical
I'd have sold it for the fivebucks to game stop Cause I'm
like I'm never gonna play thisgame again.
You can.
Brandon Hurles (03:04:30):
I'll sell it,
for I am still very upset with
you for having me not buy theUltimate Edition of Monster and
the Wilds, because you said, oh,it doesn't matter, who cares,
it's all cosmetics.
And then you go and buy it andI didn't buy it.
And I love the series.
I knew I wanted it.
Mark Trobough (03:04:40):
I don't know.
I think I just said screw it inthe end you like screwed me on
that.
Brandon Hurles (03:04:44):
I'm a hypocrite.
Sometimes I'm a hypocrite,sometimes I'm sorry the thing
about digital is that Steam doesnot offer to let you buy the
rest of that by itself.
I don't think the Steam thing isthe ultimate thing no, it's a
Steam thing because I've seen itfor other games too.
Like you either buy theultimate edition or you buy the
base, you can't buy the stuffthat you get with that ultimate,
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you have to buy one or theother.
So if I were to UltimateEdition, or you buy the base,
you can't buy the stuff that youget with that Ultimate, you
have to buy one or the other.
So if I were to, so I'm like,are you kidding me, mark?
Like I knew I wanted that, butI let you talk me into something
.
Mark Trobough (03:05:16):
You should have
just bought it, then I know.
Brandon Hurles (03:05:17):
But I let you
talk me into something, because
then I started to think about it.
I was like oh, maybe I reallydon't need this, and then you
wouldn't buy it.
I'm like all right, all right,cool, cool, this is great.
Mark Trobough (03:05:28):
I don't always
follow what I say.
Brandon Hurles (03:05:30):
It's a thing I I
guess you're like well, I will
know that for next time.
Mark Trobough (03:05:36):
Um, but no, uh,
well, I guess um do we have to
uh crap on uh I don't know if Isay tencent, ubisoft, uh every
once in a while.
This was some relevant news forthe last two weeks and stuff
like that, because uh could be,we didn't, we weren't able to
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talk about it last week the factthat there's uh ubisoft is
making a subsidiary studio witha significant I think it's like
a 25 ownership via tencenttitles which is like their
assassins, creeds, their uh uh,rainbow six uh, is it far cries?
yeah, it should be far cry aswell and some other their main
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ips.
Uh, essentially that you wouldthink that would save the
company.
But as more information comesout, essentially that deal is
helping to tank Ubisoft's stakes.
They're essentially offshoringto a separate company all their
major IPs with Tencent and itkind of feels like the main
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Ubisoft company is inevitablygoing to have Shudder and
they're moving to this newcompany that Tencent's probably
going to have a controllingstake here eventually.
It's what it feels like.
But essentially, after this cameout, the stocks continued to
drop.
A lot of their shareholders aretrying to essentially force a
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lawsuit to get Ubisoft to renegeon that deal because it's
negatively affecting theirshares.
I don't know how the legality isgoing to work out and stuff
like that, because the otherthing is there's a lot of
employees who, instead of takinga I think it's what a cash
bonus it's like oh, you canoffer a cash, like a lot of
companies will be like here'scash bonus, or we can give you X
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amount of shares in the companystock in the obvious hopes that
it goes up and you'll you'llmake money in the long term, but
because, especially after thisdeal, the stock was going down.
Obviously there's a lot of otherother stuff that affects it, uh
, but it's it's continuing to bebad for ubisoft stocks.
They're essentially sayingthey're not, uh, uh, they're not
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doing their fiduciaryresponsibility to the
shareholders and stuff like that.
So they're trying to get this,whether Ubisoft will do it
voluntarily, which I don't thinkthey will do, or they're going
to try to force their handslegally, or else it just feels
like the Ubisoft, as we know,will cease to exist and it's
going to become more of aTencent Ubisoft, where Tencent
is essentially going to tellUbisoft what they're going to do
because of the amount ofinvestments they're putting into
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the company.
And then whoever owns thecurrent stock, it's just well,
your soa, you better get rid ofit now didn't they sell so many
copies of assassin's creed?
they said players, let's be fair.
You could have playedassassin's uh creed shadows for
15.
If you do the, what's it?
The ubisoft plus their, theirstreaming version of it.
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Yeah, well and access that game.
That's $15.
Brandon Hurles (03:08:29):
You could have
spent $15 play the game per
month and canceled yoursubscription I will technically
have a copy of it because itcomes with my gpu for free, but
that's the other thing, becauseit's the same thing.
Mark Trobough (03:08:40):
Even with, I'm
pretty sure, xbox game pass, you
probably would have had accessto the to the game.
So then this is the other issuewith streaming.
The way some of these uhstreaming stuff works for games
is your play.
Just because you say you have amillion players doesn't mean
that million players paid 70dollars right for your video
game because of how they couldaccess it.
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So you may have only had halfthose people potentially pay
that full price.
Everyone else pay is paying asubscription service for it,
which means you're not reallymaking that full money.
Or if they're it's, if it'sthrough game pass, there's a
contract, so they're getting xamount of money based off of
probably how many people playthe game or how long they played
or whatever is behind thescenes, which means in theory
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you're not potentiallymaximizing your profit unless
they're playing it through theubisoft plus, because I don't
know if it's through game pass.
But if it's through game passthat's great for microsoft, but
for non-subsidiary companies itcould be a negative thing, I but
.
So that's.
There's the issue.
That's about that's.
I think that's why they'resaying more player numbers and
not sales, because the salestechnically aren't that high.
Brandon Hurles (03:09:47):
Apparently,
Assassin's Creed Shadows
attracted over 3 million playersin just one week, but most of
these players are from Westerncountries.
It also says in the first weekin Japan, Assassin's Creed
Shadows sold 17,701 physicalcopies for PS5, 17,701 physical
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copies for PS5, which is 60%less than Assassin's Creed,
Valhalla and even lower thanOdyssey and Mirage, despite its
Japanese setting.
Mark Trobough (03:10:15):
I mean to be fair
.
Those numbers sound low butcompared to like US numbers for
game sales are always going tobe low, just to kind of put that
out there but the 60% meansyou'd be closer to like 100,000,
150,000 players.
Brandon Hurles (03:10:28):
Apparently
Valhalla which.
I thoroughly enjoyed.
I thought it was a great gamesold quite a bit more physically
in Japan 100% the discoursearound this game.
Mark Trobough (03:10:39):
It was the extra
time.
Brandon Hurles (03:10:41):
Valhalla,
thankfully, was pretty DEI.
Mark Trobough (03:10:44):
There was no DEI
in that game I played it, the
discourse negatively affectedthat game because because, like
we talked with some people and Ithink to be fair, uh, asman
gold probably gave it a fairreview.
Brandon Hurles (03:10:55):
He said it was
like a six or seven yeah, he was
being fair about it, even therewere.
He's like the game.
Mark Trobough (03:11:00):
Like there's
portions of the story that are
bad, uh, and the story is wherethe most the conflict really
comes from, and some of thewriting, some of the story that
are bad, uh, and the story iswhere the most the conflict
really comes from, and some ofthe writing, some of the romance
, stuff like that.
But he's like the game itselfperforms mainly fine and I don't
know if he brought it up, but Iwould say some of the uh, my
true transactions, what is wasfar bigger of an issue than
probably anything else, microtransactions unlock the map
(03:11:22):
horrible.
You could pay to unlock the mapand a few other things am I
surprised?
Brandon Hurles (03:11:27):
not at all.
This is a ubisoft tacticthrough and through.
They do this for everythingit's disgusting it's disgusting
I mean seriously what hashappened to video games?
Mark Trobough (03:11:41):
this is just like
the fact that they are
microtransactioning.
Brandon Hurles (03:11:44):
They're hiding a
map from you until you pay for
it.
Mark Trobough (03:11:47):
It's a single
player game and you can pay to
unlock so much of that game.
It's one thing if it's amultiplayer game with
microtransactions or it's freeto play, but, come on, the
microtransactions are a littlemuch in this game.
I would say.
Brandon Hurles (03:12:02):
It's a single
player game.
There's no reason for any of it.
Mark Trobough (03:12:06):
You're
essentially getting nickeled and
dimed to death with some ofthese games, some of these dlcs
and my god, they had to.
They weren't gonna make anymoney back obviously you don't
have to buy it, but the factthat it's there is not not ideal
essentially, but like ifthere's anything, any legit
criticism of this game, that'swhere it deserves to be.
And because it's not a wholelot of defense for some of that
(03:12:27):
stuff where the story and thewriting is very well, it's very
uh, uh, oh, I don't want to say,as culture is not what I was
thinking of.
It's very uh, black and white.
It's not the, the word I'mthinking of, or it's either
you're you, you're forward oragainst it.
There's no real middle groundin that kind of discussion.
It goes straight to culture warstuff.
Brandon Hurles (03:12:47):
I'll tell you
what game you should be looking
forward to instead of this crap.
Wu-tang Fallen Feathers.
That game looks so good.
I am so excited for that game.
Mark Trobough (03:12:57):
Say what you want
about CCP.
A lot of these Chinese as wellas some Japanese, you're
starting to see it the japanesedevelopment market and then
korea and especially china, likethey're definitely, uh, putting
games that are doing well, it'salmost like, hey, you know what
it's like.
You're listening to what peoplehave been asking for.
Yeah, just give us what we want.
(03:13:18):
Like we, let's be fair.
Uh, because I don't know ifyou've seen it or some of the
other people in the odds thathave listened to it, because I
listened to a fair amount ofaspen, just because it pops up
in my feed on youtube every dayuh, other stuff I agree with and
stuff I don't.
It just pops up and I think he'sgot decent takes on some stuff
and he's popular for his part,uh, but it's the idea that uh
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and I immediately lost my trainof thought there for a second.
Yeah, give me a second.
I'm sorry, I had something andI immediately lost it.
Brandon Hurles (03:13:47):
Uh, how was I
trying to think of what I will
say is wu chang um is likegetting more stellar blade.
To me it's like uh, it's morestellar blade-esque game that
I'm all for.
They they're doing it right.
It looks like all the teasersthey're putting out for it looks
(03:14:07):
great.
The costumes look great.
The aesthetic of the game justlooks really fun.
It's the type of game I want toplay.
Mark Trobough (03:14:18):
Yeah, I am so mad
that I lost my train of thought
.
Brandon Hurles (03:14:21):
I don't even
know what you're trying to say.
Mark Trobough (03:14:22):
I know it's
killing me now, because it was a
good point that I heard himbring up and then Phantom Blade.
Zero oh god, it's killing methat game was really good too.
Brandon Hurles (03:14:33):
Phantom Blade
Zero, it's another.
Chinese game also.
That game that's set in France.
That's a Chinese game.
That game looks really good too.
Which one is it?
It's set in France.
That's a Chinese game.
That game looks really good too.
Which one is it?
It's set in France, but it's aChinese developed game.
He plays like the French girl.
(03:14:57):
Asman did a video on it andstuff like that, but it looks
really good too.
I'll see if I can see what it'scalled real quick.
Mark Trobough (03:15:07):
Oh my God, this
is killing me.
I lost my train of thought andI can't remember what I was
saying yeah, I don't know oh myGod, I hate myself.
I'm sorry and I liked talkingand then I just poof One of
those things where you just Ican't remember what I was about
to say and I hate it.
When this happens, I'm going toremember it like two hours.
(03:15:28):
That's what I was saying.
I can't remember, do youremember?
Brandon Hurles (03:15:32):
what I was about
to say.
I don't even know what you'retalking about To be honest with
you.
I had no idea.
You just start saying somethingand then you stop.
Mark Trobough (03:15:39):
Because stuff
pops into my head yeah, that's a
decent point and I immediatelylost it.
And now I'm like really mad atmyself.
Brandon Hurles (03:15:45):
That's all good.
Maybe you'll remember it later.
Mark Trobough (03:15:49):
Yeah, not when
you're not on stream.
Brandon Hurles (03:15:51):
Well, anyway, I
was going to tell you tomorrow
you got to do a thing.
You got to try to at least getsome progress in Monster Hunter
before you play it, so your HRis at least not like super low
tier and we can actually do someprogress in monster hunter
before we play it, so that yourhr is at least not like super
low tier and we can actually doall I can be promised is that
I'll be through the main quest.
(03:16:12):
That's about it well, as long asyou get the hr up, it's not
hard, it's so easy to do.
I'm almost at 200 and I don'teven feel like I've played
nearly as much as some people.
It it's pretty.
We just need to get up a littlebit.
Because here's the reason why,since the new content just came
(03:16:33):
out, I would like to be able tostream the said new content
instead of streaming the samecontent I've been streaming for
weeks on it, because Mitsuni isin there and you just do the
quick, simple story mission forit and it's not hard, it's
really easy.
But uh, there's a whole bunchof new stuff.
The multiplayer hub and stuffis coming and, uh, there's all
(03:16:56):
kinds of new stuff for it.
So if you can get it up just alittle bit just to be able to
fight whatever we want to fight,that that would be pretty
awesome.
Yeah, it just should take long.
I really don't think it'll takethat long.
Mark Trobough (03:17:09):
I can't remember
what I was saying.
I can't remember and it'skilling me.
I'm sorry.
Brandon Hurles (03:17:13):
It's all good,
Mark.
Mark Trobough (03:17:15):
I can't even
remember where I was going with
that?
Brandon Hurles (03:17:18):
Was it something
to do with Ubisoft?
Mark Trobough (03:17:20):
I can't remember.
That's the problem.
I thought it was more biggerthan that, but I just I can't
remember now and it's killing mesomething about the chinese
developers or I'm trying toremember, because it's I mean, I
don't know.
It's kind of all on the lanesbecause they're like actually
like listening to what peoplewant, not just like no, no,
let's force you to play what wewant you to play well, they're
also not buying into the deistuff either.
(03:17:43):
You don't, you don't get you,but I mean, I guess I was kind
of was talking about like allthe developers, like they're
actually like going towards,like uh, listening to the
feedback, not just like ignoringyeah, it's one very clear.
Brandon Hurles (03:17:53):
Like you follow,
do you follow wu chang on um x?
Do you see all the communitystuff that they do?
Mark Trobough (03:18:00):
but I kind of
remember what I was going with.
It was more like uh, I know Ido remember what I was, what I
was about to say.
Now I don't know, I just tookme for a bit.
I like, where you go back intothe train of you brought it up.
I was like going back throughthe train of thought, uh, that
that Asmodee brought up and it'sthe idea that, uh, regardless
of what people say, and stufflike that, because you see, the
game developers like, oh, we didx amount of work into a game
and I just because I think he'sright on this uh, the, the
(03:18:22):
average consumer just doesn'tonly cares about the product,
they don't care about theprocess or the people behind it,
like that.
Yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow if you've watched some of
his stuff where he talks aboutthat, where it's just like I
watch him, you can talk aboutall this stuff that you've done
behind the scenes, like if all,it's the whole deal like your
your blood, sweat and tears.
If they don't like the productthey're, they're not gonna play
(03:18:42):
it they're not to.
Brandon Hurles (03:18:43):
It's the whole
deal to me of like when you have
those video game presentationsand like the people won't shut
up and stop talking and justshow the game yeah, they talk
about the spec like bro, nobodycares about me we don't care
that you spent six years in thisgame.
(03:19:05):
We just want to see thegameplay.
Mark Trobough (03:19:08):
We don't care I
think he's right about it's.
Like it doesn't matter, likewhat you talk about what you've
done, like if it doesn't matter.
You can come out and complainabout the effort and all this
stuff, like all these developersdid such great what's it called
south of?
Brandon Hurles (03:19:23):
is it called
south of midnight coming out
that just like doesn't interestme at all, really like it just
doesn't look interesting oh yeah, I'm just gonna shout out.
Mark Trobough (03:19:33):
Matt long say
he's heading to bed.
Brandon Hurles (03:19:34):
Good night, I'm
yeah, we're getting ready to
head off as well.
Mark Trobough (03:19:37):
We've been on
like over three hours.
Brandon Hurles (03:19:38):
We started like
an hour yeah, this was a big one
, though this was a really bigone, so it's we can make an
exception, it's all good, yeahwe also spent like an hour
showcasing stuff really excited.
Mark Trobough (03:19:49):
It's like 40
minutes a long time I was like,
oh, this is definitely gonnaroll over.
No, because you brought it upsouth of midnight.
Uh, that game has an all timepeak on steam of 496 players.
That peaked yesterday.
This is the second day it wasout obviously we don't know
what's out yet we don't knowwhat it's like on consoles, it's
just steam, but like steam hasa fairly decent indication of
(03:20:10):
what's happening, like this gameis an xbox game, so I imagine
that probably sales are going tobe more there.
Brandon Hurles (03:20:15):
But our game
passing.
Mark Trobough (03:20:17):
If they're this
bad on pc, they can't be that
much better yeah, I can'timagine, I just it.
Brandon Hurles (03:20:24):
I don't like to
stop motion animation crap.
Mark Trobough (03:20:28):
Yeah, so they do
add.
The SteamDB does have Twitchstats on their site, so there's
695 viewers right now.
The all-time peak was yesterdayat 30,000 viewers, but then
again the viewers is notaccurate.
That could have been fivereally big streamers playing the
game that were getting a fewthousand viewers each
potentially.
Yeah, like that.
Brandon Hurles (03:20:49):
So yeah, for
sure, for sure, all right guys.
Well, uh, we're going to goahead and end off here.
We we had a long podcasttonight.
Mark Trobough (03:20:57):
I think we had a
lot to talk about with nintendo
and stuff, which was notsurprising, it's dominated the
news cycle and then, yeah, Idon't know.
Obviously there there's a lotof negativity, but I was like I
don't, I don't always agree withall what some people are
talking about and it's like, ah,I, we deal with enough
negativity.
Brandon Hurles (03:21:14):
I mean, what's
the Nintendo stuff I like?
Mark Trobough (03:21:17):
we said before we
even it.
But it's a misinformation andso, like some misleading a lot
of misinformation, a lot and Isometimes I think people just
don't, don't think about it.
Brandon Hurles (03:21:35):
They don't read,
but it's like they read
headlines.
Mark Trobough (03:21:37):
They don't
there's enough negativity about
the, the, the switch stuffonline there's like
misinformation about this entirehour-long direct that we just
had.
We're getting everything wrongsome of it I can.
I'm like all right, you have a,you have a point with some of
the criticisms, but I was likeat the end of the day I we do.
Brandon Hurles (03:21:55):
I'm just excited
to play the system I want to be
excited about somethingpositive for it a little bit
more.
Mark Trobough (03:22:00):
We can talk about
some of the what's more of the
stuff solidified.
Brandon Hurles (03:22:03):
We can talk
about it later, but at least in
the immediate aftermath let'sjust I just want to revel in the
excitement for it because we'vebeen we, we, so I brought this
up before, but we have beentalking about at the time we
were calling it the switch pro,but we've been talking about it
since episode three of thispodcast.
Mark Trobough (03:22:22):
Yeah, episode
three bro, positivity for now.
There's enough negativity outthere there's enough, I'm sure,
in the future it'll be small,like okay, we can once, ever,
once the dust is fully settled,then we can we're excited.
Brandon Hurles (03:22:35):
That's all that
matters, and it shows that we're
excited for this.
I mean, we've been hyped forthis for a long time like
everybody else.
Mark Trobough (03:22:42):
Yeah, I think
there's there's enough
negativity out there.
I was like all right, well, wecan dunk on ubisoft because and
don't, don't get us wrong.
Brandon Hurles (03:22:49):
Well, I mean, we
get into some of that.
Mark Trobough (03:22:51):
We get into some
of our negativity with some of
these companies well deservednegativity to be fair, but
there'll be some legitcriticisms down the road.
But I'm one of those peoplelike let's let the dust settle
and see where everything standsand then we can, kind of we can
address it from there andaddress it later and stuff like
that.
Brandon Hurles (03:23:05):
But yeah, yeah,
mr coffee.
He even brought it up ontwitter earlier.
He said people just want tocomplain because I mean, that's
all they can do.
It's games.
We should all be there enjoyingit.
I agree, that's what it's about.
It's supposed to be fun, right,like?
If we're bitching and moaningall the time about this stuff,
like what, what's the point thenat the end of the day.
Mark Trobough (03:23:25):
Sometimes it this
may be a little bit
hypocritical sometimes.
I think it's warranted,especially on some games and
game developers who have areputation of doing that ubisoft
and stuff like that.
But this is, this is it's.
It's a different type ofnegativity, but I was like
there's enough out there, likeI've I've been hearing too much.
It was kind of like all right,I get it, let's move on and talk
(03:23:46):
about something else.
But I was like it's whatever,we'll deal with it when we deal
with it.
Brandon Hurles (03:23:50):
I just didn't I
just think the negativity about
the price point of I don't knowwhat people are expecting the
switch to to be priced at.
Do you really?
Think it's going to be youthink it's really going to be
300.
Do you know how much?
The Asus ROG Ally X is $800.
$800 for the base model, thebase model.
Mark Trobough (03:24:10):
Let's be fair.
My God, there's a lot ofinflation.
I get some of the terror stuffis going to drive up some of the
costs and stuff here and there.
But let's be fair.
Brandon Hurles (03:24:22):
It's $450.
It's less than any otherconsole on the market.
Mark Trobough (03:24:29):
We've been used
to the 60 price for almost three
decades and like eventually itshould have.
Brandon Hurles (03:24:32):
Realistically it
should have went up two decades
ago.
Mark Trobough (03:24:34):
I mean, I'm not
saying I wanted it to, but
especially with the westerndevelopers and say they're
wanting to unionize, like thatmight be good for the worker but
like that's gonna jack up someof the price.
Yeah, Some of the costs ofproduction are self-inflicted,
but generally I get it.
Everything's just getting moreexpensive.
Why would video games not?
(03:24:55):
I get you don't like it.
But if everything else isgetting more expensive, this
eventually has to get bigger aswell.
Brandon Hurles (03:25:08):
The way I see it
with the price point is that
Nintendo, for the most part, forall their big party releases,
should stick with the price thatthey have set for whatever that
is, which is probably going tobe the 70 right, the only game
that wasn't at the 70 was mariokart information about is europe
stuff.
Mark Trobough (03:25:22):
It was 90 euros
for the yes, 90 euros in the us,
or wasn't confirmed.
And then the other big thingjust because we're already we
already brought up was thedigital download stuff that some
people were talking about.
Brandon Hurles (03:25:35):
That's not
across the board, though they're
like all 70 for a remaster likebro.
Mark Trobough (03:25:40):
No, that's a lot
of these aren't nintendo games.
To be fair, it's the the thirdparty that that price is.
That.
That's kind of standard in theindustry so that's the other
thing, but it was the idea somegames that the, the physical,
was a key to unlock a download.
Yes, to be fair, that wasalready there which that were
massive in size.
Brandon Hurles (03:26:00):
So it told you
on the box, just like these ones
do, but it tells you downloadrequired.
Yeah, it'll tell you on the boxjust like these ones do, but it
tells you download required.
Mark Trobough (03:26:07):
Yeah, it'll tell
you on the box down there was
like some misleading stuff orpeople were blanking it across
the board.
I get it.
Brandon Hurles (03:26:14):
It's the
internet, people, you know
people are reading, readingheadlines not not not reading
the actual facts I'll be one ofthose like I don't mind
traveling and criticism, butlike, let's make it.
Mark Trobough (03:26:26):
We should be
responsible, making legit
criticism, doing our duediligence.
Like we're going to criticize,that's great, let's make it
legit criticisms right, get the80 price tag.
But if you're misleading itwith the 90 stuff, that was
euros, not dollars.
It was never confirmed.
Like, yeah, I think you're,you're jumping the gun there.
I let's talk the 80 and stufflike that and I'm not the
(03:26:47):
biggest fan of it.
But like you know, the industrywas already talking about we
want to go to $100.
Gta 6 needs to be $100, so thewhole industry chain can move
that way.
Yeah, and look, we both agreedwhether we were interested or
not.
Brandon Hurles (03:27:03):
Like I said, I
will buy GTA when it comes out.
But we even said whether we areinterested or not.
Like I said, I will buy GTAwhen it comes out, but we even
said, whether we are interestedor not, they can sell that at
$100 and they will have zeroproblems selling that game and
nobody will complain.
Nobody will complain, it's GTA.
Mark Trobough (03:27:20):
Not every game is
worth that price tag, but
there's a lot of stuff goinginto it.
It's just one of those thingsand I've kind of come to this
conclusion on myself.
There's so much like negativityor like hyper polarization on
so many things.
It's like I think we, we oweourselves and everybody else the
responsibility of like, allright, let's, let's pull the,
the pull back and be a littlebit more, uh, responsible and
(03:27:42):
more.
I don't want to say necessarilymoderate on how we talk about
things, but let's be real aboutwhat's happening and why they're
happening.
Let's not be hyperbolic aboutliterally everything, because
it's not the healthiest thingfor the internet.
Brandon Hurles (03:27:57):
And me and you
are not the type to just jump
the gun like that on this stuff.
Mark Trobough (03:28:02):
anyway, we want
to know the information you
learn like okay, I read a lot ofcrap that out the gate is wrong
and later you realize it waswrong sorry, I'm not a headline
reader like I need to know theinformation I don't care what
your headline says that tells menothing.
Brandon Hurles (03:28:19):
If I've learned
anything these past four years,
past five years, is that I don'ttrust any news media outlet for
anything.
So, like I'm definitelydefinitely not going to listen
to your headlines, I can tellyou that right now I'll make the
judgment for myself.
I will happily research thetopic so I can bring the viewers
(03:28:42):
the actual information, thefactual information, without my
opinion thrown in there about itor whatever I think is.
Mark Trobough (03:28:51):
If it's in there,
I'll at least try to let you
know.
This is how I feel about it.
Brandon Hurles (03:28:54):
Right, that's
different if you're saying how
you feel about it, but myopinion should not change.
What is factual information?
If it is factual, it should befactual, and then I will say
this is how I feel about it.
You know that's different,that's different you know.
So it's what.
Mark Trobough (03:29:13):
Sorry, I just
wanted to answer Matt Long just
because he asked for it.
The only Direct that we know ison the April 17th and that's
the Mario Kart World Direct.
That's the only one that weknow before before launch, but
there's definitely more coming.
For sure, we just don't launch.
I can't imagine there beingthat's specific to that game,
but like a general direct Ican't.
(03:29:34):
I assume the next one's probablythe time in the summer after
release yeah, that would be mylast two we still need like hard
release dates for like metroid4 and then uh, legend za and
stuff like that, I would assumebeing the next Direct.
Brandon Hurles (03:29:48):
Matt, you should
get Monster Hunter Wilds and
play with us.
You got a PC, you're able to doit.
You should be playing with us.
All the rest of the communityis enjoying it.
Unfortunately, our buddy can'tplay tomorrow.
That played with us.
He played with me, I think,four or five times, played with
Mark, once with us, but he can'tplay tomorrow unfortunately.
But you should jump in, I thinkyou would enjoy it.
(03:30:10):
So it's a pretty addicting game.
It's really fun.
But yeah, I guess I guess we'regoing to close out here.
Mark Trobough (03:30:17):
So for our late
went three and a half hours.
So yeah, it's all.
Good man, I had a good time.
Brandon Hurles (03:30:22):
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Mark Trobough (03:32:06):
What is it?
It's going to be a big.
This year's going to be big ona lot of Nintendo news oh yeah,
for sure a lot of stuff moresure to come, that we're going
to talk with Nintendo not onlyin the immediate future.
Brandon Hurles (03:32:18):
So a lot of good
stuff to look forward to and I
am going to do a full video onthe 5090, so that should be
coming Tuesday.
I already ordered my psu, sothat's on the way.
I ordered a 1250 watt but uh,yeah, I want to give.
I decided I just go and do avideo on it.
(03:32:38):
Um, why not get the video outwhen I have to extensively test
it?
I got to figure out whatsoftware I need to use to make
sure I've got all the ROPs in itand I'm not missing any.
I don't know what softwarepeople use.
I'm new to this.
Do you know what it is thatpeople usually use to check all
that stuff?
What is it exactly?
Again, sorry, the ROPs aremissing in some of the cards,
(03:33:01):
remember.
Mark Trobough (03:33:02):
Oh, I'm not sure
there's a software that people
use to test it.
Brandon Hurles (03:33:05):
I want to test
it right away.
That's one of the reasons Idon't want to sell the 4090
right off, because I want tomake sure everything's good with
it.
Now I haven't heard any reportson the model I got, but it
doesn't mean it's not there.
It's not something I've everdealt with.
Mark Trobough (03:33:22):
But yeah, it's
never something I've really
messed with on my GPUs.
Brandon Hurles (03:33:26):
I'm just really
excited to try Monster Hunter
Wilds with it.
I'm definitely the multi-framegeneration stuff.
See how it looks.
I'm really excited.
Mark Trobough (03:33:32):
I don't think
mine even has that.
I think it's a 50 series thingon the cards if it has to do
this with AI stuff.
Yeah, it is.
Brandon Hurles (03:33:40):
I'm excited to
see what it looks like and stuff
like that and how it performs.
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(03:34:04):
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Have a good one, guys.
Have a good weekend.