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Mark Trobough (00:03):
hey everybody,
what's up?
This is episode 128 of the gamejunction podcast.
I'm your, one of your hosts,mark, here with brandon.
How's it going?
What's up, my dude?
Brandon Hurles (00:15):
how's it going,
bro?
It's been a week and a half inthe video game world, bro.
Yeah, it's been a crazy, crazyweek.
Mark Trobough (00:22):
Then got a friday
and stuff.
Hopefully it slows down for atleast the weekend dude it legit
like no joke.
Brandon Hurles (00:28):
Uh, this brought
it on more when I thought about
it because asman gold took abreak for the week, took a
little vacation.
Oh, yeah, I saw a post and he'slike all this stuff coming out
that asman wanted to play andit's all like great stuff right
coming out and it's like the oneweek you take a break you got
all this and then doom in twoweeks, when that doom looks
absolutely incredible.
You have to play that mark.
(00:49):
I think you'll love it.
Looks, oh my god.
Looks so god tier.
The last two were fantastic.
I bet that game.
It gets mech, you get.
You get a mech and fight kaijuyou freaking get.
I mean it's insane, bro, andit's open world.
It's the first open world doom.
Mark Trobough (01:05):
So everything
else up until now has been been
pretty linear.
I still haven't beaten doom2016 that's okay, I mean.
So this is a prequel, so it'sactually works out oh yeah, or
is this equal to doom 2016 or tothe og doom?
Prequel to 2016 nah man, we, weneed to bring the old bro.
Brandon Hurles (01:23):
I think you've
never even played the OG Doom,
get out of here, you can play iton your refrigerator right now.
Mark Trobough (01:30):
You can, but have
you.
The original.
I've played it.
I'm not beating it, but I'veplayed it.
Brandon Hurles (01:36):
You haven't
beaten the original Doom.
Mark Trobough (01:38):
Why would I?
It's just a game with no story.
Brandon Bro, it does have astory.
You have to read the linergames had a story wink wink it
was in the book, bro.
Brandon Hurles (01:50):
Yeah, man, that
was good enough, zelda.
Good enough, it was in the book.
You know what?
Mark Trobough (01:55):
you gotta save
the princess.
Brandon Hurles (01:56):
That's the story
of like but I mean I love, I
truly I do love the originaldoom and I actually have doom
plus doom 2 on my pc right nowto play at all times.
So I jump into it all the timejust to play.
You know 15 minutes.
If I got a couple minutes, it'sone of those.
You can jump in and play typegames.
Mark Trobough (02:15):
So I enjoy
playing it.
I'd have pegged you more for aDoom 64 guy myself.
I like Doom 64 too.
I got it on Switch, not on the64 on the switch oh, I mean I
have it.
Brandon Hurles (02:27):
I had it on the
64 back in the day, but now I
got a switch.
Mark Trobough (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, whatever when we get
doom switch 2, now dude, youknow what?
Brandon Hurles (02:36):
because I can
remember the 64 and we got both
of the previous Dooms on Switch.
I see no reason that it's notpossible to get the new Doom on
Switch 2.
I see zero reason that it's notpossible, considering the
minimum specs for that game arelike, I think like a 1080 Ti was
(02:57):
like the minimum and then theyrecommended it was like a 2060
or something.
There's no way that can't runon Switch 2.
There's no way.
I mean Oblivion's not going tohappen, simply because first of
all the gigabytes If it were tocome out physical, you're maxed
out a 64 gigabyte card.
But I still think it would bevery doable.
The game looks beautiful, butthat again also lower
(03:20):
recommendation 1080 Ti.
The next one's like a 2060.
Mark Trobough (03:25):
That's the
recommended specs.
That game's still based off ofthe old game.
Brandon Hurles (03:30):
It is very
clearly a remake, not a remaster
.
They are cutting themselvesshort on that.
No, I do not like Unreal Engine5, but I felt a lot less Unreal
Engine 5 problems in thisparticular game than I have in
most.
Mark Trobough (03:44):
I will say yeah,
because everything I've seen
with that game it looks.
The only that I've seen that Ididn't like were some of the uh,
some of the npc faces lookedkind of weird or too too
realistic are you talking aboutthe character creation ones?
Brandon Hurles (03:56):
not the
character faces in general
actually most of most of thenpcs, because that's usually
what you're gonna see, theylooked wacky in the original, so
I mean, like they still made itlook better art style, and it
was also on the 360s early,earlier 360 games too.
Mark Trobough (04:09):
It makes sense,
but it just.
Brandon Hurles (04:11):
I would have
preferred something that was
like the skyrim faces they did alot more work to it than I
would have ever imagined for ait's a small nitpick.
It's just like I don't think itlooks good, but you can tell
it's because of the unrealengine yeah, it is unreal engine
is terrible with faces, but mybiggest complaint with it and I
guess this is like one of thosethings where it's like people
still want the jank like thatmade.
(04:33):
That was like the character ofoblivion, so like there was
stuff they left, such as thecombat where they did change a
combat where the enemies areslashing back at you, versus in
the original it was, um, itwasn't the same, they weren't
like a real-time fighting you,if that makes sense.
It was like a turn turn, turnturn.
Mark Trobough (04:54):
But this is no
like very real-time block hit,
block hit you know what youdidn't expect with the with some
of their newer games yeah,exactly yeah, which they changed
and was a good change.
Brandon Hurles (05:04):
I mean, like I
said, I was skeptical on the
changes that they make to thegame.
Mark Trobough (05:09):
But so far other
than the Type 1,.
Brandon Hurles (05:11):
Type 2 thing, I
have no complaints.
Mark Trobough (05:13):
Realistically,
yeah that was weird, but New set
of graphics and just modernizedthe combat to just work a lot
more smoothly.
Yeah, I mean Not a, not a onefor one for what they did for
skyrim, but skyrim's combat wasa lot more fluid and it just was
super too simplified.
Brandon Hurles (05:28):
Yeah, I agree,
and yeah, it was, and you were
kind of.
You said you didn't care muchfor oblivion back then.
But now, like playing this, youwould like it much more because
it plays more like a skyrim.
But actually I particularlythink it plays better than
skyrim does I would hope, hopeso.
Mark Trobough (05:44):
Skyrim came out
in 2011.
It's 2025.
Brandon Hurles (05:47):
Yeah, but I mean
, this was pegged as a remaster.
It's not a remaster, it's aremake.
I don't know why they called ita remaster.
Mark Trobough (05:51):
It doesn't matter
If you're re-touching up a game
at all.
The combat should be betterthan your last game.
It is the.
Would hope so.
Brandon Hurles (06:05):
Whatever I mean,
it's supposed to be a remaster.
So you would think that like,and if it were me, I would think
no, because just a remaster islike usually a new coat of paint
, no like To be fair, likewhat's the last major remaster?
Mark Trobough (06:19):
you played BDSP
and that game's bad because it's
the exact same game.
They didn't change it, it'sjust a new coat of paint.
Everything else looks and playsand feels exactly the same.
Brandon Hurles (06:28):
You argued with
me how it isn't exactly the same
because it's not spritesanymore.
So it's not the same.
It's not just a coat of paint.
Mark Trobough (06:36):
It plays exactly
the same.
Brandon Hurles (06:38):
That's the
problem with a remake or
remaster.
Mark Trobough (06:42):
Especially with a
remake, you want it to mark
more there to it, and chill,chill out.
Brandon Hurles (06:46):
All right, it's
just a game I will.
I will not chill out, I willchill, I will chill, I will
chill up, or chill in whatever,the right opposite is a chill
out all right, yeah, so what theheck we got going on.
Today, mark, mark, when we divein.
Mark Trobough (07:03):
Outside of the
oblivion sneak drop, which I
still think was purposely leakedbecause they probably had no
marketing budget at all topromote the game at all.
Obviously, the big thing thathappened this week Wednesday
night, thursday morning, theSwitch 2 pre-orders dropped and
(07:25):
that was chaos, but not as badas it could have gone based off
past pre-orders, especially whenit looked like the PS5.
That was a complete crashBefore that.
Brandon Hurles (07:33):
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And yeah, we'll go ahead anddive in.
So let's get into the switch tostuff.
(08:17):
We got a lot of switch to todaybesides just what we're talking
about right now, but becausethat's so fresh, with it just
happening, I figure we just diveinto that.
Mark Trobough (08:26):
So yeah, yeah,
just just start talking.
Switch to.
Uh, because I well the issuewas trying to, you know, get the
thing pre-ordered was like myproblem.
I think walmart and best buyoutside of best buy dropping it
like a half hour later forwhatever reason, their, their
websites were definitely builtprobably the best for the
(08:48):
pre-order.
They're best prepared for it.
I don't know.
I know there are issues withGameStop's website because they
did it at 11 am on their websitethe next day.
Brandon Hurles (08:56):
GameStop was the
only one I would say was a
complete crap show, althoughTarget was like.
Mark Trobough (09:01):
Everything I
heard about there was bad.
Brandon Hurles (09:09):
Here's.
Although target was likeeverything I heard about it was
bad.
It was here's, here's the thing.
You had to exit like normalwith that one and it caused all
sorts of problems with it.
The problem with it was it wasthe first one technically to go
live like walmart let you gointo the queue.
But as you know, it was not.
It took an hour and a half forme to get through the walmart
queue I was you, and itimmediately.
Mark Trobough (09:20):
The other
hundreds of thousands or
millions of other people are inthe queue.
Brandon Hurles (09:23):
Yeah, but I mean
I did click it immediately so
it wasn't like I was even fiveminutes late or anything.
I clicked it on the dot so likerefreshed right away 30 seconds
before, clicked it on the dot,but that queue came up first and
so we were waiting in the queuefor that.
So then Target came up and thething with Target was everybody
had this problem you eithercouldn't enter your address or
(09:46):
it would air you out when yougot it into your cart.
First there was a problem withgetting it into your cart.
You would have to click it ahundred times to get it into
your cart.
Then you get it into your cartand it would just come up with
an error message.
And I had like five of them ina row.
I screenshotted and posted on xand a bunch of other people had
the exact same thing.
But eventually I got through totarget.
So I didn't tell you the.
(10:08):
The cancellation I got was notfor that, it was for the piranha
plant camera, which I wentahead and got an Amazon because
they don't charge you right now,so it charged me later when it
releases.
So I was just like, yeah,whatever, I knew I was going to
get that Cause I think it lookscool.
We, because I think it lookscool, will I use it.
No, I'll use the other one.
But yeah, so the Target one wasa mess, but a lot of people did
get through the Target one.
(10:28):
The problem with Target was noteverybody.
I did not get a cancellation,but a lot of people did.
Mark Trobough (10:36):
A lot of people
got canceled orders.
That was the problem with themnot using a queue is they
couldn't make sure people thatwere actually going to order it
they actually had the stock forit.
They just it's like they'll dolike a free-for-all, like it had
been in the past for onlinestuff, where it's all these are
like this.
Brandon Hurles (10:50):
By the way,
there's always every single
launch for stuff.
Mark Trobough (10:52):
There's problems
with the website, like because
when you have millions of peopletrying to get in, literally
that's just the problem, liketheir servers cannot handle that
well, I mean, their servers aredesigned for millions of people
to come visit their site, but Ithink the problem is what a lot
of these sites are actually thesame thing at one like a
million plus people on the exactsame product, all the right,
(11:12):
right you're essentiallyddossing their site, which is
where I think, with the, the qline works a lot better off for
one.
It allows them to make sure thatif you're ordering it, they
have the stock for it as well.
It helps alleviate a lot of theissues.
It's you're not refreshing thepage, which you know is a more
thing, a different hit and it,it.
It just helps alleviate thepressure, puts everyone aligned.
They can whatever they're.
(11:33):
However, they have it builtbehind the scenes.
Uh, as far as like, I don'tknow if they're trying to like
combat botting or stuff likethat, but it just it alleviates
a lot of the issues with thesite that you could run into.
So, outside of the initialtrying to get in, you can get in
and it'll just throw you in aqueue and you're just kind of
sitting there waiting to stepover to the game stop side.
Brandon Hurles (11:51):
We didn't need
to to do that because we had
already secured them.
But, um, I had just out ofcuriosity to see if I could get
through because it went up rightaway.
I went all the way to thecheckout screen and got there.
So I could have got it there ifI wanted.
So I know other people weregetting through.
Yeah, I just wanted to see formy friend if you could get
through, because he was tryingand he couldn't get it.
But I got right through thecheckout.
I click could have clicked buyif I wanted to.
(12:13):
For that obviously I didn't.
I don't need another switch.
Mark Trobough (12:15):
But and obviously
the other side is uh, best buy
allowed you to to pre-order itin person and uh, every store
that I've seen like the daybefore they put up like we'll
have this many switches and thismany switches with the mario
kart on it and they always hadlike double the mario kart,
which it feels like nintendointentionally want people to get
that it is a better dealbecause they want people on that
big, big launch tile.
Brandon Hurles (12:37):
So, like it
really does, they're only big
like that's, that's that's it,donkey kong.
Is it comes out?
Mark Trobough (12:43):
a month later.
It's not a launch title.
Launch title is it comes outdate date and date with the with
the so it's a launch windowgame I I'd say a launch window.
I thought it was traditionally,you think of launch games that
launch the day that the.
Brandon Hurles (12:56):
You could pick
it up the day the yeah, launch
window is usually the firstthree months.
Mark Trobough (13:00):
Okay, you're
right, yeah it's, it's, it's not
this, because you have to waitlike a month, month and a half
for that to come.
Yeah, a lot, there's a lot ofother launch window games.
Brandon Hurles (13:07):
This is good.
I'm not complaining.
This is a good thing, becausewe want other launch window
games.
Mark Trobough (13:11):
But um but I
think nintendo took advantage
it's huge right.
The switch to is backwardscompatible.
So they're like we already havethis library that will
technically play a handful, adecent amount of games that will
have upgrades at launch.
Yes, so let's just focus on onemain game.
We want to launch another bigtitle a month later and then
we've got two more big titlescoming out.
They obviously want breathingroom between their their first
(13:33):
party games.
Yes, they do and they alreadyknew.
They've got the third partysupport, they've got the
backwards compatibility.
So, like it's not the library'son issue and, let's be fair,
most people that are earlyadopters, uh, don't care about
that.
They probably have switch gamesand stuff like that.
So that's not a problem.
By the time you get to theholiday season you'll have a
handful of first.
You have like four first partytitles that we know of.
(13:54):
When you get to the holidayseason, that's probably their
next big window when they'regoing to have like restocks and
stuff like that.
So yeah, I think it's less of anissue as far as like the game
stuff.
But yeah, it makes sense likenintendo is intentionally
pushing.
They want as many people withthe mercur as possible.
Technically it's 30 cheaper, sowhy not go for the bundle where
?
Brandon Hurles (14:13):
it becomes 50,
which is even significantly
cheaper than like, uh, even lastgen prices.
Mark Trobough (14:18):
So yeah, I mean,
to me it makes like complete
sense, you know so they'repulling a switch where you want
to get this title, because youjust get the Switch, you've got
to pay $80 until we decide todiscount it later down the line.
Brandon Hurles (14:28):
I think it is.
Mark Trobough (14:29):
Whatever said,
the game's going to get
discounted at the holiday season.
Brandon Hurles (14:31):
Discounted.
It's not going to be $70.
Mark Trobough (14:34):
I'm going to say
that game's $70 at the holiday
season.
Brandon Hurles (14:36):
I say absolutely
no, freaking way.
Mark Trobough (14:43):
It would not
surprise me if you paid.
Essentially, they're charging atax for early adopters for that
game, for the physical,physical and digital.
Brandon Hurles (14:49):
I mean this is
going to be a holiday bundle.
It ends holiday right, oh?
Mark Trobough (14:53):
yeah, Well, they
said that this is a limited
thing.
100%.
They're going to restock at theholiday because they want as
many people on this game aspossible.
Brandon Hurles (15:00):
We'll get five
other Mario Kart World bund
bundles in the future.
We've had, I think, I think Icounted so far for the switch to
, there's seven differentbundles with mario kart, because
they always do like every yearthere's the holiday bundle every
single year and then there'sbeen like other ones in between.
Mark Trobough (15:18):
So I think
there's been seven total in the
lifespan for the switch sevendifferent mario kart 8 deluxe I
mean, how many pokemon or howmany zelda bundles and specialty
consoles do you usually getwith some of these?
Zelda, we didn't get any forthis well, I guess the zelda
usually get like uh, you getspecial consoles and special
consoles, yeah, but no, theysell just the same yeah, yeah,
(15:40):
I'm for sure.
Brandon Hurles (15:41):
Um, I misspoke
on that a little bit, but no,
you're good.
Mark Trobough (15:45):
Yeah, so I mean,
um, I think it'll be a good
first first year for the, forthe switch to as far as first
party title goes obviously youdon't want to have any issues
with the actual switch to whenit comes out.
Brandon Hurles (15:54):
But I will say I
have a problem with the people
that are okay.
So first of all, here's myfirst complaint all the people
that were drop the price, dropthe price, I'm not buying this.
And then you see what happens.
They had 2.2 million peoplesign up in just japan this is
just japan on the nintendo storeto get to get it there.
(16:14):
That is one place in onecountry, so you have to equate
the rest of the world to thistoo.
Like you, guys are absolute I'msorry, but anybody was saying
that stuff is absolute idiotsbecause they still bought it you
know, some probably did, andlet's be fair like some people,
that some will you know I justdidn't care.
Mark Trobough (16:32):
They're like, you
know it, it is what it is.
I.
I want these, I want thehardware, I want it plus it's.
You know it's.
It's a new hot thing.
It's coming out.
Brandon Hurles (16:39):
We'll see four
years later how the other switch
2 is actually doing as far aslike actual sales, game sales
and stuff like that but I willsay, with launch, launch uh like
the launch window for this one,this actually launches the ps2,
which is the biggest launchweekend for any video game
system.
I believe was at 1.5 millionfor the weekend, just the
(16:59):
weekend.
So imagine day one for this,with all the people that have
already just pre-ordered, plusthe people that get the chance
to possibly get it in store whodidn't pre-order that weekend.
Um is going to be absolutelymassive.
Mark Trobough (17:12):
So there is huge,
huge, gigantic potential that
this I am above that ps2 launchweekend I'll say this it
wouldn't surprise me if by theend of 2025, the switch is sold
20, the switch 2 hits 20 million.
Brandon Hurles (17:25):
It wouldn't
surprise me either at all.
I'm not gonna go to 10, just onthe pre-order alone, and I am
now in the uh boat that I dobelieve this is going to sell.
Outsell the switch one.
I just do just, I just have astrong feeling.
Only time will tell.
It's because if we get a switchto lights, if we get it to
switch to light, for instance,and then if we get a switch to
oled later on, like we did forthe switch, it'll it'll help.
(17:46):
It'll bump up sales, because alot of those people upgrade to
that oled and I I'll be thefirst to say that I absolutely
will.
I think, although the new lcdtechnology used for the switch
to is much, much, much betterthan the original switch like it
looks great.
Even up to the oled it looksreally good.
I seen a bunch of comparisonphotos.
Oled is just a much bettertechnology.
(18:07):
The blacks are true black.
The colors just completely popthe game.
It almost.
I say this for somebody that'supgrading their PC, getting an
OLED monitor can oftentimes feellike more of an upgrade than
upgrading your GPU.
Mark Trobough (18:23):
It's serious.
Brandon Hurles (18:24):
It depends on
how old it is.
If you run something halfwaydecent like a 4060 or a 5080,
5070 Ti, whatever it issomething below the mothership
class there, it is still goingto be an upgrade.
It is a significant upgrade, somuch so that I'm all led on my
(18:44):
end now because it's just Ican't go back like I just can't
pretty much everything on mineand mine is is lcd, led or
whatever, whatever it is becauseyou're a chump mark not a chump
, it's just.
Mark Trobough (18:55):
I don't it's it
you?
Can find deals you can find alittle upgrade for for the price
I promise you I would not lieto you as your friend.
Brandon Hurles (19:04):
It is not
negligible, it's a big
difference.
I promise you, if I could showyou in person to see it, you'd
be like oh you guys like theupgraded LCD and LED technology.
They've gotten better they'vecertainly gotten better, but
they don't do blacks right, forinstance.
They just don't do blacks Right.
(19:25):
They're too bright.
Mark Trobough (19:25):
Does that?
Does that break your immersionin a video game?
How, how black a black is?
Brandon Hurles (19:30):
a little bit,
yeah, a little bit.
When you're playing like a darkgame, bro, it's like actually
dark, like pitch black dark,it's crazy.
But anyway, um, what was it?
Mark Trobough (19:42):
Well, I guess,
because I know where you're
going.
I also think because people aretrying to compare this to the
Wii and the Wii U and I'm like.
First of all, nintendo'sconsoles weren't always up and
down.
They've had successes aftersuccesses and I would argue from
the SNES to the GameCube wasmore of like a steady decline,
not a straight drop-off.
Brandon Hurles (20:00):
Right, the
GameCube just didn't sell,
unfortunately.
And then let's be.
Let's be fairly blew up.
Mark Trobough (20:06):
Success isn't
what.
What led to the, the switch'ssuccess like?
Let's be fair, the we was farmore marketed to a more casual
audience, not a gamer core, butI would say the switch was too
because of the handheld factor.
Brandon Hurles (20:20):
I feel like it
was more.
I mean like not as much as wewere there, like you know, in
nursing homes and stuff likethat, but like in the fact that
it was more, I mean like not asmuch as the Wii or they were,
like you know in nursing homesand stuff like that, but like in
the fact that it was a portableconsole, the first hybrid
console, where you could take iton the go like you could a Game
Boy or a DS or anything likethat I feel like that was always
there and it wasn't like it was.
Mark Trobough (20:37):
Obviously it
wasn't like the traditional
casual video game but, like theWii was definitely marketed
towards people that outside ofthe Wii Like families older
video game but like this, thewii was definitely marketed
towards people that outside ofthe wii families ever touch
video game exactly.
Brandon Hurles (20:48):
Yeah, I mean
like my, my grandma played wii
sports.
Mark Trobough (20:50):
You know what I
mean like she would never play a
switch, you know, back then.
So like I don't think it's aone for one in a different way.
Brandon Hurles (20:56):
The switch was
also a more casual I mean, it
was a casual video game systemas well, like it.
Mark Trobough (21:02):
I mean yeah, but
it's not necessarily a gamer,
but she has a switch but itsmarket was more towards people
that just played video games,not towards people that are
using, because it's like anexercise tool I mean, yeah,
there was definitely pointerswhere with the wii it was
definitely much, much more of acasual audience.
Brandon Hurles (21:20):
But I think also
in the switch, during the wii
era is why it sold so much.
It sold so much for a reasonmost core gamers weren't getting
wii's.
Mark Trobough (21:28):
They may have had
it for one or two games.
You're getting a ps3.
You're getting a 360 likethat's before.
That was that era at launch,all I had was a wii yeah, but
like you, you know you weren'tthe one paying for it at the
time.
Brandon Hurles (21:41):
So true, yeah, I
was excited.
I couldn't be any more excited.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't change that for theworld.
The wii was what I wanted, morethan those consoles, and I did
end up getting those consoles.
I got both of them before theend of the life cycle, but I got
the 360 I think a year beforethe xbox one came out, and the
ps3 I think it got like twoyears before the ps4 came out.
(22:03):
So like I got them at the endof life cycle when they were
cheaper, um, so I did end upgetting all of them and I bought
those myself.
Uh, but the wii, I mean I, Iwouldn't change that for the
world.
I had some of the best timesever on the wii, I mean there
was just console, but like thatera gamer, you just didn't.
You didn't play on the wii, youplayed on the ps3, or at least
(22:23):
here in the west, the 360primarily me and you, I think,
are kind of on the outcast ofthat, because both of us got the
game cube, both of us got thewii um that's what my, that's
what my parents got the dsinstead of the psp.
At launch, both of us got thethe game boys instead of, you
know, atari links or game gearor any of the other handhelds
(22:44):
that were on the market.
Mark Trobough (22:45):
Back then there
was only one handheld and it was
Game Boy and Game Boy Color.
Everything else was trash.
Brandon Hurles (22:49):
Wonder Swan
Color.
Engage, neo Geo Pocket Color.
There were so many handhelds.
Mark Trobough (22:56):
They don't have a
memorable library at all To me
they do.
Brandon Hurles (22:59):
Don't disrespect
my systems, okay.
Mark Trobough (23:01):
Let's be fair.
What really led to the successof the game boy and the game boy
color was was pokemon, likethat was it did, for sure
handheld.
Brandon Hurles (23:08):
I wouldn't
change that either for anything
that game sold it I mean thatthose games, if I'm being fair,
changed my life and our rv,reason I do what I do today, the
reason this podcast existsbecause I fell in love with
those games and it's why you'restill chasing true vr, so you
can have your own ash, catchthem.
Adventure or satoshi, whateverlanguage you're watching, the,
(23:29):
the anime in all right, he'ssaying stupid stuff now so I had
to remove him out of there.
He can come back in when he'snot saying stupid stuff no more
anyway.
Anyway, with the Switch 2 stuff, yeah, with the pre-order and
all that stuff, it was kind ofchaos.
(23:50):
But basically what I said was Ithink I put this in a post to
Andre Sears of GameXplain.
He made a post and I commentedand said that it was has he come
back in or is he just messingaround?
Come back in, mark, all right,okay.
(24:10):
Anyway, I was saying to AndreSeeger, who's a game?
explainer on his post that Isaid it was five times easier
than the PS5 launch and 50 timeseasier than any of the 50
series cards launch for those.
So for any tech I was justtalking about that and I said
it's two times easier than theSeries X.
Yes, it was kind of a crap showthat night.
(24:31):
Like it was a little bit of acrap show, but we got through on
multiple places so like it didwork out, you got through on
multiple places.
Mark Trobough (24:39):
I only got
through on one place.
Brandon Hurles (24:42):
I was trying to
get you one, trying to get Lucas
one and was trying to figureall that stuff out.
So I ended up getting you oneafter I got me one, but then you
ended up getting one later thatnight, after I already fell
asleep because it finally wentthrough much later.
I just happened to leave it upso let's put it this way um, I
got one and no, I'm not scalping, I'm not selling these, I'm not
doing anything like that.
(25:03):
Like I said, I was getting Markone, I was getting Lucas one
and then I did get an extrabecause Target was canceling
pre-orders and Walmart wascanceling pre-orders.
So what I'm going to do is I'mgoing to hold out on both of
them.
If one ships, I'm just going tocancel the other.
That's what I'm going to end updoing, because I'll just keep
them until then.
Yeah, yeah, it's held up.
You know, a lot of money, um,unfortunately, but I think
(25:23):
that's just what I'm going to doto be safe, because, uh, I've
seen so many people get theirpre-orders canceled from walmart
, from best buy and from target,so I've seen cancellations from
all three.
So, like there's no guaranteethat you end up getting it and
it's like we're trying to getthis for launch day.
Uh, one of them says it'll comelaunch week, wal Walmart
supposedly says it'll be theirmorning of launch.
Mark Trobough (25:46):
So that's the one
I'm hoping to hold on to it
just depends how they ship stuffout, because they can't, they
don't, they can't ship it andget to you like the day before.
Brandon Hurles (25:53):
Apparently
they're using sparks delivery so
, like they guarantee, if youpre-ordered, you're guaranteed
to get it.
Morning of launch, which I'mfine with.
Yes, I would like to do amidnight launch.
I would love to go in-store todo that, but unfortunately I
talked about this last week myGameStop closed down last week,
so the closest one is about 30minutes away and I just decided
(26:16):
I really want to go pick it upat midnight.
Unfortunately, I can't becauseI did Walmart and Target and I
did Best Buy, but that was foryou.
So we ended up getting multipleswitches Mark's got two and
then I got two plus one foranother.
Well, here's what I probably do.
(26:37):
Actually, I'm getting confused.
I'm going to hold out on twopre-orders, but they both come
through.
Lucas is getting the other.
That's how it's going to workout.
So that way then they'll all betaken care of Not going to
cancel.
It Forgot getting Lucas one.
So they both come through likethey should.
Lucas is getting the other.
Mark Trobough (26:54):
So I hope that's
the friend.
Brandon Hurles (26:55):
I feel better
about that.
Mark Trobough (26:56):
If everything
works out and I end up with the
two, because, for whatever wantto hold on to, I was like, well,
I've got, I've got family, I'vegot some nieces, I'll just, you
know, pass it on.
Brandon Hurles (27:04):
Yeah, and stuff
like that inevitably probably
this year, end up getting mydaughter one for christmas this
year too, so I'll just wait onthat and just get that later.
But um yeah, so I mean, andthey were all mario kart world
bundles, which is great, becauseI mean that's what everybody
wanted.
Lucas wanted that you want.
Mark Trobough (27:21):
Unsurprisingly,
that was obviously the one that
they very obviously pumped outthe most of so they pumped out
the most of.
Brandon Hurles (27:27):
It was also the
one most people were trying to
get so online, which they knew.
Mark Trobough (27:31):
Which is why they
?
Obviously because usually whenyou have those bundles, the, the
game bundle, there's a game for30 cheaper.
Brandon Hurles (27:37):
It's like why
not?
Everybody wants?
Mark Trobough (27:38):
it's like it's
it's a, it's a no-brainer at
that point and then, if youreally for the physical, I'll
buy a used one in like two yearswhen it's like you know about
the same price.
Brandon Hurles (27:47):
GameFreak said
he got his through Walmart.
Well, I'm glad you got one man.
I really am happy that you gotone.
Mark Trobough (27:51):
I gotta ask did
you get any peripherals?
Because I went back later inthe night.
Brandon Hurles (28:04):
It was about 1
am for me and I don't have
GameStop anymore and, um, myWalmart does not like to stock
any pro controllers at all, so Iwas a little nervous about that
.
Now that's my only optionlocally, uh, so I was like you
know what I'm just going to do.
I've also got it almost $200,um, micro sd card express coming
(28:26):
, but it is that I did this onefor one terabyte.
I'm just going to roll withthat because I ran out of stuff
on my switch so quick and thefile sizes are much bigger this
generation because you gotbigger games, so it's going to
run through way quicker andespecially if you, even if
you're just going out therefirst party games, you're going
to run out quick like it.
I ran through that, uh, 568gigabyte or whatever it is.
Mark Trobough (28:44):
so well, I'm in
the way of like I can wait till
it comes out sometimes yeah, Imean that's fair, like that I I
just because all my stuff is onmy switch so like if I'll
migrate what I can to fit on the256 until I can get an sd card
without you know what it'll be,I they should have a problem
keeping those in stock, plusthere's hopefully other brands
(29:04):
you don't have to get theNintendo branded selling one.
There's going to be otherbrands.
Brandon Hurles (29:09):
I went with a
brand that I normally don't go
with, but it was the first onethat came out months ago
targeted at the Switch and itwas the cheapest possible one.
Did you look more into the onethat you sent me?
Was that actually a micro SDcard?
I didn't, I didn't look backinto it, I wasn't because I
looked at it again, I don'tthink it is, because it says 200
megabytes per second.
Micro sd card expresses are 900megabytes per second.
(29:31):
They're more like an ssd I'mnot sure, I just don't know.
I know they, I know they lookexactly the same.
Mark Trobough (29:37):
I'm like I don't
know why they just wouldn't both
work.
Brandon Hurles (29:39):
It's just
compatible that one that you're
talking about I.
I've used that exact SanDiskbefore the Extreme Pro as a
regular SD card for my EverDrive.
So I don't think it is.
I really don't think it isespecially that cheap.
There's no way Express cardsare going to be that cheap yet.
So I mean I want you to.
I would love for you to.
Mark Trobough (29:58):
I mean the
Express cards I saw weren't much
more expensive than what I sawfor that size.
Yeah.
Brandon Hurles (30:06):
I just said.
The reason I said to do that isbecause I don't want to double
dip on buying another SD cardthat I'm especially Express card
, that I can't use in anythingelse right now.
So it's going to be a waste ofmoney, it's just going to be
sitting there.
I can't use an old Switch, Ican't use it in anything else I
have.
So I was like I'm just going todo a one and done, get the one
terabyte, have it over with andscrew it.
But here's what I got.
(30:27):
So Amazon, I got the PiranhaPlant camera.
And then Walmart, I got the procontroller, the regular camera
and Donkey Kong Bonanza, whichships July 17th.
So that's a while away,obviously, but those were the
accessories I got.
Mark Trobough (30:47):
So pretty much
what I wanted to get.
Brandon Hurles (30:50):
That was really
all, and I do need to get a
screen protector, but I'llprobably just get a cheap one or
something like on Amazon.
Mark Trobough (30:56):
That's why
somebody can just pick up that
day from Walmart.
Brandon Hurles (30:58):
You don't have a
.
Mark Trobough (30:58):
GameStop anymore,
but probably a GameStop they'll
have those in stock.
Brandon Hurles (31:01):
I'll probably
just order it on Amazon, get it
shipped the day before, orsomething.
The console comes out, BecauseI don't like to play a console
until I have a screen protectoron it, just to be safe,
especially one that expensive.
So I'm just going to order itthe day before, or something
like that.
Just get a cheaper brand one $7, $8 or something like that.
Mark Trobough (31:18):
Like the same
thing you do with your phone.
Brandon Hurles (31:21):
Yeah, I've just
got a generic screen protector
in case on my iPhone 16.
So it's whatever.
I'm fine with that.
It works, does the job.
Mark Trobough (31:29):
I was surprised
you were able to get it through.
I was expecting what you'reused to and it's like 10 minutes
in everything sold out becauseit was all bought.
That's what I was expecting.
Brandon Hurles (31:38):
I was trained
because of the PS5 launch, the
Series X launch I mean even theSteam Deck was that way when it
first came out.
You couldn't get anywhere.
The ps5 pro when it firstlaunched, it was a problem
actually the.
Mark Trobough (31:49):
The only reason I
got the ps5 at launch was
through the.
Whatever sony did through theirown website that was the only
way I even had a shot at gettingthe ps5 at launch it turns out
well, launch time.
The only, the only good thingwas, that is, it was using an
ssd.
I remember of an hhd it.
No new games, everything elseplayed exactly the same.
Brandon Hurles (32:05):
That was I still
remember that happening.
I was so jealous.
But then the exact same day Iwas able to get one at best buy,
the exact same day that you hadsaid that.
So that was one of those launchthat I got my ps5, so I was
okay yeah, that was.
Mark Trobough (32:18):
The only
difference was it has an ssd, so
everything loads faster.
No, no exclusive games.
Brandon Hurles (32:23):
The crappy part
was the Series X only launched
one day before the PS5, so I hadjust got that.
But then I got the PS5 two dayslater, so it worked out.
It worked out the way I wantedit to.
But yeah, I waited six hours inline for the Series X just for
pre-order day.
So people were camping out forthe pre-order for this Same deal
(32:44):
.
I waited six hours for that,got through.
Did I tell you this story, howthere was three of us there, we
got through and then day ofpickup for launch day, we went
in there.
Guess how many they had.
Mark Trobough (32:56):
What the three of
those three pre-orders.
The three that's it.
Brandon Hurles (33:05):
And they had to
out to the car because there was
a dude screaming and yellingabout this.
And when I say a line, I'mtalking a line like four stores
back, almost all the way toWalmart.
Mark Trobough (33:09):
I mean at that
point you don't need to assume
you're there, they're not goingto have that many copies there.
Brandon Hurles (33:13):
They had three.
They had no extras besidespre-orders.
I was like I kind of felt badfor people.
But it's like if you're notstaying in the loop with the
pre-order day stuff like anynormal person probably would
anybody that actually wanted it,that's what happens.
Mark Trobough (33:28):
Yeah,
everything's now pre-ordered.
I mean you can stay in line forthe pre-order, but consoles
that launch just aren't a thing,that's not 20 years ago you had
to stand in line becausepre-orders weren't a thing.
Now, pre-order everything'ssold out on pre-orders.
Brandon Hurles (33:41):
PS5, same deal.
I didn't get mine at gamestop.
It was the same deal.
The people that pre-ordered itthat's all they got were
pre-orders.
They didn't get any extra ps5seither at my gamestop.
So yeah, I mean, you just gotto be on the ball.
You know you got to payattention to what's going on and
you know, just stay in tune andstuff there is a kind of some
people prefer the online stuff.
Mark Trobough (34:01):
There there was a
charm, because you look at
those old videos and I knowpictures of like you know for
like the, the original xbox,like the 360 and stuff like that
, where you had to stand in line, camp out like all night or
something like that.
There there is like a lostcharm to that.
I mean, it's the other sidelike that would be a wholesale.
Brandon Hurles (34:17):
I would have
went and did that for sure,
because I think it's fun you getto talk with it's fun.
Mark Trobough (34:21):
But also you're
like I'm gonna be exhausted
because you're not going toreally sleep at all you only
have one life.
Brandon Hurles (34:27):
These things are
fun.
They're rememberable.
I remember when I waited onSeries X I made a couple friends
there.
There was three of us there.
We were all talking video games.
Some people bought somehandhelds.
There's a charm to it.
I miss that in person.
I am kind of bummed out that Ican't go to a midnight release,
cause those are always very fun.
They're giving away free stuffat GameStop.
(34:48):
I don't have a GameStop anymore.
Um, and then Best Buy is doingthe midnight pickup, but they're
not doing like anything special.
You can just pick it up atmidnight, yeah, but
unfortunately I don't have thatoption.
Um, I wish I had gotten mine atbest buy, but then it was like
I still got to drive 35 minutesto go get it and I was like I
(35:09):
for midnight.
I really don't want to dothat's an hour total driving at
midnight and I don't know howlong I'll be there to get it.
And I was like I just I'll justopt out for this one,
unfortunately.
But if gamestop was here, Iwould have did that for sure.
I mean like I wouldn't haverelied on that.
I was still would have tried toget one online, just in case,
because you never.
We didn't know what was goingto happen for people waiting in
line.
But I will give GameStop a lotof credit.
(35:30):
I love the way they handled inperson pre-orders.
Did you see what they did fortheir in-person pre-orders, how
they were posting what youneeded and then they said like
the day before and stuff likethat and stuff like that and
stuff like that and how manythey're going to have, and stuff
.
The better part was they.
They handed out everybody asheet of what they wanted.
Mark Trobough (35:46):
They checked,
check oh yeah, I don't know that
was every game stop, but somewere like hey, if you like let
us know so it's supposed to be.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn'thave to at mine, but the idea of
, like you, they know what,essentially, what's your, what
you're trying to pre-order sothey can, just you know it's, it
makes it it makes it easier forthem that you're not, you're
not having to like talk to themand stuff like that.
It benefits you.
Brandon Hurles (36:06):
It also benefits
them, so they can have the line
move faster a game free, a gamefrank said uh, all online
didn't need to stand in lines.
I mean I you know there is a aneasiness to try and do it
online, but actually it's notnecessarily easy, although I
will say it was still easy well,it was easier as far as in the
last five years.
Mark Trobough (36:24):
They essentially
put you in a digital line, and
then I was just on Twitter justrefreshing Switch 2 and seeing
people that got it and stufflike that.
Brandon Hurles (36:33):
I'm just, I am
incredibly happy that we were
both able to secure them,Because I assume I'm like I'm
probably not going to get it,have to wait for this Nintendo
thing on May.
Mark Trobough (36:41):
Maybe I'll be
able to.
Maybe my game stop, I haveenough and they're not gonna
have like a terribly long line.
But I was, I was resigned toI'm just not gonna get it.
That that's, that, that's themindset I had.
Brandon Hurles (36:49):
So if I didn't
get it I wouldn't be bummed out
because you were like, uh,you're pretty like getting
tapped out there early.
Mark Trobough (36:55):
I was like hold
on, mark, I gotta well to be
fair that was all pastexperiences, where if you didn't
get it, if you didn't getchecked out in, like the first
10 minutes, it was sold out yeah, past experiences, yes, but but
what?
Brandon Hurles (37:06):
the way they
rolled it out?
So walmart did it in waves, soit kept coming in waves.
So yeah, so they could you know, I hope they had, they could
minimize.
Mark Trobough (37:14):
You know, yes,
going over their limit, they
could check.
At least that's what the bestbuy site was saying.
Brandon Hurles (37:20):
You know, let's
see if there's still stuff here
before we push you through yeah,and then the other positive was
even today, gamestop has beendoing waves and walmart has been
doing waves, and it's it.
They've been quick and gonequick, so you have to click it
right away.
Mark Trobough (37:33):
So I guess the
idea is they were they I think
one is nintendo waitedsignificantly longer to release
it so they had a biggerinventory and these stores are
doing it in waves and the ideais they didn't release
everything last night right.
Brandon Hurles (37:47):
But I also think
part of that is probably
cancellation.
So cancellation gets made andthere's a lot of issues behind
the scenes and stuff like that.
Mark Trobough (37:55):
They have to go
back.
You know the system was havingproblems and stuff.
Maybe people doubled up so theyended up having to cancel one
and stuff like that.
Brandon Hurles (38:02):
So somebody got
like three and several hours
later they're, they're gettingcanceled, so they're getting
having to cancel one and stufflike that.
Mark Trobough (38:05):
So several hours
later they're they're getting
canceled, so they're gettingtechnically they're not getting
restocked, but they're gettingrestocked by people that went on
every site.
They got one and then they hadto cancel the other stuff later,
cause usually, like, when youcancel something, it doesn't
always immediately go back intothe abyss.
It has to get like re quarriedthat it was bought, then it was
bought, than it was refunded, orsomething like that.
Brandon Hurles (38:23):
Yeah, I love the
way that Nintendo did this.
I think it was worth the waitthe extra wait because, as we
know, it was supposed torealistically be revealed a
little bit earlier, but I likethat.
They waited to build up stock.
No, they still didn't get asmuch as demand wanted, but they
did a lot better than anycompany has in any recent years.
Mark Trobough (38:43):
Let's be fair,
before they released it, every
country was getting x amount ofcopies.
So, like some, a place like theus was going to get more copies
than japan because they'reexpecting more people.
So, you're, you're, you know,you're, you're.
Certain countries are going toget certain numbers of
pre-orders and stuff like that,just based off of population
size and stuff like that.
But it felt like, compared toin the past, it was handled
(39:05):
better and it's probably, as faras like the supply, I wouldn't
be surprised if they had, youknow, seven to 10 million
consoles ready to go at launch,which probably helps, you know,
minimize the people that can'tget it at launch, which
minimizes scalping, if it'seasier for people to get a copy.
Brandon Hurles (39:24):
Yeah, I wanted
to uh bring this up real quick.
Somebody said uh, I found thisinteresting, like an interesting
little fact.
Uh, they put the crazy to thinkthat by tomorrow there will be
more switch to pre-orders andtotal steam deck units lifetime
sold.
Nintendo doesn't havecompetition.
I found that kind ofinteresting um, well, let's be
fair.
Mark Trobough (39:42):
Like you, you buy
that, you buy this for nintendo
games and a lot of people thatlike these handhelds.
But like somebody like me, likeif I'm gonna play a pc game I'd
rather just play it on my pcand then if I'm on the go I'll
play my pokemon games I get somepeople prefer to like they'll.
They'll either torrent orthey'll emulate, but like that's
like a, a, a hyper minority ofpeople that will rather emulate
(40:04):
stuff than buy new stuff orsomething like that, or they'd
rather sell to high seas forstuff like that.
That's like a vocal minority onthe internet, and it always has
been.
The fact that the Switch isselling out the way it does
doesn't surprise me.
There were a lot of people thatsaid lower the price, we're not
going to buy it, and I'm sure alot of them aren't going to buy
it.
But the demand of people thatdo want to buy the switch and
(40:26):
didn't necessarily have as muchof a problem with the price
increase obviously at least onthe, on the, you know pre-order
stuff far outweighed the uh, thepeople that that had no
interest in doing it yeah, and Idid want to shout out jake
randall.
Brandon Hurles (40:39):
he helped a lot
of people.
I was listening in thebackground of of stuff.
I pretty much did it on my own,but he helped a lot of people
get Switches.
He's been doing this for allthe console releases.
He did it for the PS5 Pro, thePS5, series X, so he was a good
resource for a lot of people toknow what was in stock when and
the weight on the Best Buydebacle.
(41:00):
And then also he went livereally late that night, I think
until like four in the morning,and then he got up really early
and went live waiting forGameStop 2.
So like he did something like Idon't know, like 18, 20 hours
of streaming or whatever, justto help people get their
Switches.
So I wanted to shout that out.
(41:21):
That's a good resource.
If you're still looking to geta Switch 2, he's posting about
it.
There's also, let's see.
Another good resource is, Iguess call it LBot.
Mark Trobough (41:35):
As he pulls it up
real quick.
Brandon Hurles (41:36):
Yeah, another
good resource is this account on
X as well.
Sorry for our audio listeners,I'm just sharing a few X
accounts, but I will tell youwhat they are.
This one is LBOT Switch 2Gaming Tech Drops plus Deals.
His at is leblorst of time, soif you want to give him a follow
(41:59):
, he also has been tweetingpretty much all day all
yesterday and stuff like thatfor the Switch 2.
So there's a couple goodresources there, especially on X
, for getting ones that aregoing up.
Like I said, there's been abunch of stuff where a bunch
have came up today.
All throughout the day there'sbeen these waves of different,
(42:21):
whether it's cancellations orthere's extra stock and stuff
like that.
So there's still opportunity.
Don't give up if you're wantingan antenna switch too.
It's unfortunate, but there wasa lot of people that commented
on the post I made yesterdayabout people whether they got it
or not.
There was at least 25 peoplethat said they tried to get it
and couldn't get it, and it'sjust like just keep an eye out
for these resources, becausethere are resources out there to
(42:43):
let you know when stocks do goup.
I don't expect a lot up untillaunch, but I expect
cancellations and I expect maybea little extra stock that goes
up.
Actually, to be honest with you, I probably don't expect much
past next week of seeing stuffgo up, because stock is going to
eventually be obliterated.
I feel like the only thingyou're going to see is the air
(43:03):
park cancellations Probablyafter past this weekend stock is
going to eventually beobliterated.
Mark Trobough (43:07):
I feel like the
only thing you're going to see
is the AirTag Past this weekend.
You're going to have to waituntil after it comes out or
close to the actual release datebefore more consoles have been
manufactured and getting shippedout.
We don't know if they'repre-orders for what they're
expecting to get out there bythe launch date or that's just
what they had then and you'vegot another two months of them
of trying to build up stock forstuff in stores on launch day,
(43:27):
or if stores are going to haveextra stock.
You know when it actuallylaunches, so yeah, for sure
it'll definitely worth trying totry to see what rumors come out
for that.
But worse came, worse come toworse.
You wait a little bit longer.
You have another month beforetheir next big game comes out.
So, yeah, I can't imagine it'llbe sometime later this year.
You should, it'll be somewhateasier.
Like you know, it's going to bea hot thing for for quite a
(43:50):
while, for at least yeah, Ialways say the first six months
is where it's really hard to get.
Brandon Hurles (43:54):
I mean, if we're
looking at ps5 realistically,
that was like a year probably ayear and a half of being hard I
guess the idea is, how, how goodis their, their production, how
much?
Mark Trobough (44:03):
How many people
got what they wanted on the
pre-order?
So it's less demand on the backend.
Brandon Hurles (44:08):
I feel, like
Nintendo's doing it right by
pumping out way more stock andnot doing the scarcity thing
they have done on past products,like the stupid Alarmo thing.
They've done it with that.
Mark Trobough (44:20):
Very intentional.
Brandon Hurles (44:21):
They've done it,
but I think they do it a lot
less than other companies likethe ps5.
Stuff was just ridiculous.
There's no reason, a year and ahalf in, you should still be
having problems getting a ps5.
Mark Trobough (44:32):
That's stupid.
Yeah, by that point, ever likethe, the people that really want
it should have it.
It should be easier for themore casual you should want to
make the sale.
I mean like there's no sense tothe time you get the holiday
season.
They want to have enough ofthese in stores where it's not
going to be a problem.
Brandon Hurles (44:45):
Absolutely yeah,
nintendo.
I feel like they are definitelygoing to be saving up stock for
holiday season because that istheir big cash cow.
Mark Trobough (44:51):
Yeah, because
it's not always a big cash cow.
You've got a brand new MarioKart.
You've got a brand new DonkeyKong that we haven't seen in
forever.
Metroid and, like you know well, the new first Metroid Prime
game in like 15 years since theWii era.
And then you know another,another big Pokemon game.
These are all going to be, youknow, big popular games,
especially Pokemon ZA.
(45:12):
So, having these consoles readyto go, especially for even
though some of these are goingto be backwards compatible
people that are really intothese games, grab them first and
foremost, outside of maybe somefamilies, for some kids are
going to want to play it on thenew console.
So you ideally want those backin stock as quickly as possible
yeah, I agree, I agree.
Brandon Hurles (45:31):
So I think that
nintendo is definitely handling
this a lot better than othercompanies have, and that's good
to see.
Mark Trobough (45:36):
I mean, well,
we'll see in six months exactly
how everything's going.
But hopefully they were able toget up the.
Usually it would take close toa year in the, as much as that
possible in that pre-orderwindow.
So it doesn't like you know,the the demand doesn't outweigh
the supply for like the firstyear, year and a half.
So you don't run into like aps5 for sure.
(45:56):
I appreciate it, brandon.
Brandon Hurles (45:57):
Yeah, you're
welcome uh, yeah, no for sure.
So I guess we just uh go aheadand dive into the news.
What do we got uh going on herefirst?
Mark Trobough (46:06):
uh, as I hit the
wrong button.
Uh, we got some new stuff asfar as uh, the new blade coming
out.
I assume from what I'm seeinghere I haven't tracked this, I
don't know how much you have asfar as like what we talked about
in the podcast here and thereuh, so is the blade movie not
(46:26):
happening now?
Then, based off what I'm seeing, I didn't get a chance to
follow up on everything, so Idon't know what you were.
You were tracking on this uh, Iwasn't tracking anything.
Brandon Hurles (46:33):
I just seen this
new story come up today.
We knew that a new blade washappening, but uh, apparently,
um, it seems like, according toa report, um, it's gone through
its fair share of roadblocksover the years, which we know,
but appears the project hasofficially stalled, with little
hope that it will ever pick upwhere it left off, which is
really truly unfortunate.
Mark Trobough (46:51):
I mean, wesley
snipes's blade was just next
level man, I mean I mean he washe was he I mean some areas, but
it's very iconic yeah, but itbut it was comic like it was.
It had character to it charm.
Brandon Hurles (47:04):
It was charm
really.
But yeah, I mean it'sunfortunate to hear this,
because I love this character.
I think it's a great character.
I think Wesley Snipes plays thecharacter very, very well.
Didn't care too much for thelast Blade movie, but the first
two I really really liked yeah,I didn't care for them.
Mark Trobough (47:22):
I think Blade 1
was by far the best yeah, I
think so too.
Brandon Hurles (47:25):
I mean that
first scene, man.
Oh my god, the opening scenefor that movie, brutal bro yeah
so brutal, yeah, I I absolutelylove the character in the comic
books.
I think he's a phenomenalcharacter.
I love that.
You know he's got the wholedeal with dracula and the
dracula's in the mc or in themarvel universe and stuff like
that and like that and that'sone of his foes and stuff.
Mark Trobough (47:46):
I always thought
it was really cool.
I think it was several monthsago at this point, but you could
really look at the first Blademovie as really laying the
groundwork for what the modernMCU really became.
Brandon Hurles (47:58):
If you think
about it, if you really really
think about it, it kind ofunofficially started the MCU
because they're bringing himback into it.
Mark Trobough (48:05):
And think about
it, it, it did it, kind of
unofficially started the mcubecause like I mean, because
like bringing them back into itand they've referenced it in
movies whether it was marvel ordc, like blade.
Really it made that transitionfrom a comic book goofy movie to
like trying to actually besuper serious with an actual
story.
Uh, especially with these, amore adult, more mature story,
oh yeah, and they they didn'ttry like the old super like
Superman or or you know, batman,stuff like that, which still
(48:28):
felt kind of goofy at times withthe movie, even when they tried
to be kind of dark and seriouswith it.
Brandon Hurles (48:32):
Yeah, for sure.
Mark Trobough (48:33):
Especially like
in the eighties and stuff with
their movies like they were.
They were good movies but itwas to the modern DC and modern
MCU.
Yeah, I agree Much more.
You know a dark, maturestorytelling.
Brandon Hurles (48:46):
Christopher
Reeve's Superman is still my
favorite, which is what youwould call the cheesier ones.
Mark Trobough (48:51):
But I would call
it classic at this point.
Brandon Hurles (48:54):
They're very,
they hold a very special place
in my heart because they are themovies that I first watched
with my dad, that he was reallyinto and that we really
connected with.
So it was one of those thingswhere, you know, he was always
into the comic book stuff andsci-fi channel and stuff like
that.
So all that stuff he really gotme into alien predator um
(49:14):
child's play um friday the 13th,anything that showed up on
sci-fi channel, tremors, youknow I like.
Mark Trobough (49:22):
The tremors are
of like and this is not the same
level of the tremors aliens andpredator series.
Of those three series, thetremors is obviously the weakest
.
The best movies are the firstone and it was just a slow,
steady downhill from there, ifyou ask me, until like eight
movies which was for me.
It's such a terrible movie, ohI thought you're talking about
tremors.
There's like eight tremormovies but I know and I've
(49:42):
watched all eight of them and Ilike them, but it's a steady
downhill of quality.
It's a huge decline.
Brandon Hurles (49:47):
I watched the
last one that came out.
I was like, oh my god, this isnot it's a straight movie.
Mark Trobough (49:50):
They're not even
trying to be serious about it,
they're not even trying to beserious, no, no.
Brandon Hurles (49:54):
But that's where
all my love for that stuff and
he was a big, big superman fansof christopher reeves is like my
, my uh, movie superman.
I always, I always loved them,yes, like the movies.
They they still hold up today.
Yes, there was cheesiness, butit was superman that you're
working with, um, first of all,who is a great character, but
he's also like a very cheesycharacter, like in movie form,
(50:15):
because I mean, you think it'scheesy.
Mark Trobough (50:16):
I think of
tremors three, I think, is the
first movie.
Okay, it's either two or three,I can't remember which one?
He was really cheesy where theyhad those, uh, the, the, the,
the, the, the creature that um,could, uh, could fly,
essentially, and they called itthe ass blaster.
I'm like that's when you knowthey were.
Just, do you remember aboutbeing you know?
Brandon Hurles (50:32):
do you remember
the first movie?
Mark Trobough (50:34):
really felt like
a horror movie yeah.
Brandon Hurles (50:36):
Yeah.
Like blasted about the crocodile.
I remember watching a wholeit's a whole series too A
marathon of those movies on thesci-fi channel way back then.
Yeah, the Superman comics weredefinitely cheesy.
It did get grittier in the 90sbut yeah, the early stuff very
cheesy, but I still love it.
I have a soft spot for it.
But yeah, I mean this Bladestuff Unfortunate hopefully Ends
(50:59):
up getting, you know, works out.
But it looks like they probablyjust dived into it a little too
early and they just weren'tready for it or had everything
kind of set in stone on whatthey were going to do.
So hopefully you see more aboutit yeah and then.
Mark Trobough (51:11):
Uh, not
surprisingly, another single
player game is going to requireis requiring always online
internet, which is kind offrustrating to see or like.
I don't know why they need itlike this, but the new skate
game will require and alwaysconnected.
You will always, always need tobe connected to the internet,
for whatever reason.
I don't know why they need itlike this, but the new skate
game will require an alwaysconnected.
You will always, always need tobe connected to the internet,
for whatever reason.
But the single player gamesthey want you on the internet,
(51:32):
probably the data harvest butthis is like so disappointing.
Brandon Hurles (51:36):
It's so
disappointing to hear that.
I hate that, because I meanwhat happens is eventually a
game gets shut down.
It's just gone forever.
Mark Trobough (51:42):
Yeah, again a
game gets shut down.
It's just gone forever.
A game that's single player,but because it requires a server
connection that it doesn'treally need, I mean like even a
game I loved, like Assassin'sCreed Valhalla, you had to be
connected.
Brandon Hurles (51:51):
Like why bro,
why?
Why do I have to be connected?
That's so stupid.
Mark Trobough (51:57):
I mean there's
more to talk about.
I guess I can.
I can bring it up now because Ithink it goes hand in hand.
I don't know where I put itexactly because obviously ubi
soft is always in the news.
Uh, it's bottom of the smallerstuff that I had, uh, but
apparently a european legal firm, a non-profit uh, noib nyob is
(52:20):
what it's called, uh, based inaustria, essentially has filed a
legal complaint as far assecurity concerns, essentially
citing that that ubisoft is uhdata harvesting data for, like
single player games that requirethat, always online internet
connection, primarily with thisone, the new assassin's creed
shadows, essentially they're.
(52:40):
They're modern, when you get on, how long you're playing, when
you get off and stuff like, andideally using that for whatever
data collection that they'redoing to sell or to use or
something like that, right, andthat you know essentially that
this is probably breaking someEU law or something like that.
Brandon Hurles (52:56):
Probably.
Yeah, I mean it's actually good, the only major risk is that
they get fined.
Mark Trobough (53:01):
What up to 92
million euros, which around a
hundred some million dollars, orsomething like that.
So financially not a whole lot.
But I don't know if they couldlegally force them to say either
you have to couldn't tellpeople you're doing this, or you
have to stop doing this andstuff like that crazy.
Brandon Hurles (53:18):
I mean, it's
truly unfortunate, but this is
where we're at, unfortunately,in 2025.
Um, I was going to ask you doyou want to, uh, just quickly
break from news and do just kindof break it up a little bit?
Do pickups real quick I mean wecan't.
Mark Trobough (53:31):
I don't have any
pickups, but yeah, we can break
anything show I spent like waytoo much money this week to go.
Brandon Hurles (53:37):
Try to look for
other well, these are like way
previous I got these like no, no, if you got some stuff, you can
bring it up I didn didn't haveanything because of the.
Mark Trobough (53:44):
Switch 2
pre-order was like where all my
money was at.
Brandon Hurles (53:47):
All right.
First I got two reproductionVectrex controllers.
This was a special launchbundle.
One of them is white and thenthe other is black.
So if you know anything aboutthe Vectrex, it's one of the
most expensive video gamesystems.
So the reason I got this was Iwas going to take the black one,
take this out, take my originaland put the reproduction in,
(54:09):
just to preserve the originalcontroller.
And then, if you didn't know,the Vectrex actually has a
second slot for a controller too, so I can use that as well.
If I want to like play with mydaughter or something like that,
I have the option to haveanother controller, because
original controllers are very,very expensive.
But this is the firstreproduction controller, so this
is absolutely insane.
(54:29):
When I saw that this went up,it was crazy.
And one of them is white.
It's a special launch editiononly that is no longer available
.
Let me see if I can find thewhite real quick and I'll show
it.
Mark Trobough (54:40):
I haven't even
opened these up yet.
That's not the white.
Brandon Hurles (54:42):
Nice, I haven't
even opened them.
Yeah, I, the white one I thinkI'm going to leave in the box
and not use, because it was aspecial launch edition.
The only reason I got it isbecause they had a bundle price
for the launch and I wanted tosupport him for doing this,
because it's something I thoughtnobody would ever do.
The original controllers arevery, very, very expensive, um,
and hard to find a good workingone.
(55:03):
But, uh, I wish I could justbring over my Vectrex, but it's
a giant vector unit with ascreen built in so it's very
heavy.
This is the white launch one.
There's never been a whitecontroller for the Vectrex
before, so this is really really, really neat.
And then this is the outershell where it connects into the
unit and you leave it in thereand stuff like that.
So this is really really coolto see.
(55:24):
This is the one I will beleaving in the box.
I won't be using this one, justgoing to keep this one for the
collection.
But the black one I will beswapping out for my original,
just to preserve the original.
So nothing happens to the stick, nothing happens to the buttons
, I don't have to worry aboutany repairs down the road or
anything like that.
But this is really really cooland there was a good price.
It was 150 for both.
Uh launch bundle um, that's areally good price for these.
(55:48):
I mean the fact that he evenreproduced the boxes to look as
good as they do.
I mean these look like theoriginal boxes.
The only difference on these iswhere is it?
At the bottom right here itsays sean kelly, the guy that
did it 2024.
So that's the.
That's how you candifferentiate the original from
(56:08):
the original.
Mark Trobough (56:09):
The box doesn't
look like.
It's like 40 years old.
Brandon Hurles (56:13):
Well, yeah, I
mean it looks like it's 40 years
old, but it looks new.
Mark Trobough (56:17):
The condition of
the box is not how you'd expect
it to look.
They're beautiful.
Brandon Hurles (56:20):
I mean just for
the box alone.
They're really cool displaypieces, so the white one I'll
just display and the other oneI'll actually be using.
Mark Trobough (56:27):
So uh, yeah, I
guess technically there was one
thing I forgot to share like aweek or two ago, I don't
remember yeah, go ahead before Ishow my other two uh, but it
was technically.
Uh.
They finally started sellingthe spy family code white movie.
Yes, they only had it in thesteel case which I thought
looked on the front looks reallycool.
Uh, I believe it was only onthe Blu-ray and the DVD.
It's combined and stuff likethat One's DVD, one's Blu-ray.
Brandon Hurles (56:49):
I heard there's
a lot of DEI in that, though and
spy family no, it's not okay,maybe I misheard or something I
don't.
Mark Trobough (56:59):
I don't know
where you're getting that from,
because I've watched the tv show.
I watched the movie when I gotit from uh brand.
Brandon Hurles (57:04):
I thought it was
really good, like it's a really
good movie yeah, uh, and thenwe got I picked up two really
cool ones.
I got this for ten dollars.
This is a limited run gamesrelease too, which makes it an
even better deal becauseobviously it's a limited game.
I already wanted it becauseit's a classic show and it's a
2D platformer that you can playin either the NES style or the
(57:25):
brand new Code of Paint style,so you can flip back and forth
between the ones on the fly.
So if you want to play and theydid actually release a real NES
cart with this game on it solike, released a real NES cart
with this game on it.
So this is an actual NES game.
But that is Rugrats Adventuresin Game Land and it is really
fun.
It's a really fun 2D platformer, a lot of fun, really a
throwback to 2D platforms on theNES.
(57:48):
And then the best one, which,unfortunately, I'm sorry to tell
you, they are going to be doingrestocks.
The company said they didn'texpect the demand Makes sense to
me, but, um, they they are havebeen very transparent, very
honest about stuff and have beenlike keeping updates going like
all the time.
So maybe they just reallydidn't anticipate.
Because it's like, uh, it'slike, um, it's not a low budget
(58:11):
game by any means.
These are very expensive games.
These are very sought aftergames very games, if you were to
buy them now.
But anyway, that is the LunarRemaster Collection on Switch,
so haven't opened it up yetbecause of the other games that
came out this week, but I willbe diving into this probably in
the next couple of weeks.
I have not played these gamesin many years, so I'm really
(58:32):
excited to check them out.
But this is one that I reallywant Mark to get because I think
he'll really like these gamesand you've been getting into a
lot more of the JRPG stuff andthese are just classics that I
think you'll love.
They look really nice.
There's a lot of quality oflife improvements.
They speed up the battle systemso you can get through the game
quicker and the grindy is lessgrindy.
Mark Trobough (58:54):
The problem with
some of those older jrpgs.
Brandon Hurles (58:56):
Yeah, they fix
that a lot the speed of battles
and the speed of moving andstuff like that.
So there's some quality of lifeimprovements.
And also the best thing aboutthis is the original games are
very expensive, very rare andvery sought after.
So like you would be spendinglike 300 to get these original
games that's just like thiswithout the hardware.
(59:17):
Yeah, that's without thehardware, even that you need to
play the game.
So, yeah, this is this is a wayto go If you want to experience
these games.
The way to go, for sure, butthat's all I got.
Mark Trobough (59:26):
Yeah, so we got
some other stuff.
Uh actually got a proper uhtrailer for the predator
badlands and lands and some somemore information about yeah I'm
excited for this, the trailerplay.
Apparently they also the what's.
The director said he gotinspiration from I don't know
how much inspiration or this isjust some marketing crap.
But uh said he got inspirationfrom shadow of the colossus,
(59:47):
which is a really popular game.
Brandon Hurles (59:49):
That feels like
was just kind of amazing video
game, amazing video they refusedto make another sequel to the
game, for whatever reason.
Mark Trobough (59:56):
But everyone
talks, talks about it and I
don't know did this in theremake was phenomenal, but it's
like give us a new game and inthat universe, yeah, I mean
really the remake was great,like it really was good, but
it's like give us a new gameyeah, but outside of that, did
you have interest based off thetrailer for this movie, or is it
?
Like I did maybe I'll turnaround and see it later.
Brandon Hurles (01:00:17):
It's one of
those things where there have
been more bad predator moviesand there's been good, there's
been several that I liked.
Mark Trobough (01:00:25):
I'd say there's
only really one iconic one, and
that's one that's the original.
Brandon Hurles (01:00:30):
One and two I
really like and then I also
liked, funny enough.
My next favorite one is a movieI think it's called Prey and it
was a Disney Plus release andit's really really good.
Like I was shocked at how goodit was.
It was so good and it's likecentered around a little
(01:00:51):
indigenous girl and like she'skind of like the main character
in the show, but like it is justso good.
I was shocked at how good itwas and it was a Disney plus
release, so I was like had evenless hope for it, but it was
really good.
It's my third favorite for sure, um, but yeah, there's been a
few others.
Like predators, um, I kind ofliked, I thought it was a, I
(01:01:13):
thought it was like a seven.
Maybe it wasn't like a greatmovie but it was good.
Like I love the lore and I lovepredator as a character in the
universe, but I think they'vedone more bad movies than good.
And I I can say the exact samething for alien.
Um, I loved alien and I lovedaliens but honestly, for that
(01:01:33):
franchise, those are the onlytwo I like at all.
But honestly, for thatfranchise, those are the only
two I like at all.
And again.
I love the lore, love theuniverse, love the alien
characters, love Ripley, loveall the stuff around that.
But apparently they are sayingthat this is actually setting up
for a new Alien vs Predator,which we have not had in a very
long time.
Mark Trobough (01:01:54):
So we got two of
those back in the day they were
back in school when those movieswere relevant.
Brandon Hurles (01:01:59):
Yeah, one in
Requiem, the second one, which
is terrible.
The second one was really bad.
I liked the first one.
Again, not a great movie, butfor what it was and for seeing
that mashup, because the lastmashup that we saw was on.
The Atari Jag was okay, but, um, the the atari jaguar one's a
(01:02:21):
10 out of 10 great game.
It's in the doom style,wolfenstein style, but it's like
really really good, especiallyfor the time.
Um, but yeah, apparently thisis hinting at a alien versus
predator movie, so that's goodnews.
Um, will I see this?
Yes, I, I do want to see it.
What do you, what do you think?
Mark Trobough (01:02:39):
uh I, they're
just to be fair.
They've not been big uh moviesor series sorry sneeze coming on
for like the longest time uhthat I've been.
It's just not like a seriesthat I've really cared for all
that much.
So maybe if we get around to ifI get around to watching it,
we'll see.
I don't even know when thismovie comes out.
(01:03:01):
Well, it comes out November 7th, so I guess I've got time to
figure out if I'm going to watchit November 7th, but if I
didn't butcher his name,trottenberg.
What he said, a small portion ofwhat he said on this, was as
inspired as I am by movies, I'vebeen, uh, very inspired by
video games like shadow of thecolossus.
We have a protagonist pairedwith somebody else who provides,
(01:03:23):
uh, color and connection andstuff like that.
It was get an idea of, uh,where it was coming out for some
of that stuff, which, whichmakes sense, you got, like, you
know, I guess I can see it insome ways.
Sometimes you just like theidea of, yeah, of context, of
you don't know what's going onbut you kind of have to just
accept it, kind of like with thelast Kong Godzilla movie yeah,
(01:03:46):
you don't really know what he'ssaying but you understand by
context what's actuallyhappening.
Sometimes I don't think it'sterrible, but I can see if it's
done right.
As long as this person isn'tjust a lore dump and that's it,
it could work well.
It could work well if it's justa straight lore dump character,
it's forgettable and it's Idon't think it's.
It's good, yeah, but as long asthis, this yeah, you have to
(01:04:09):
like know what you're doing andnot not fall into that trap of
let me just tell you what'sgoing on, then we kind of move
on from there and I amirrelevant when the movie
actually matters me.
Just tell you what's going on,then we kind of move on from
there and I am irrelevant whenthe movie actually matters.
Yeah, I agree.
Why you have the virtual boy onyour face?
I don't know.
Brandon Hurles (01:04:22):
I wondered how
long you were gonna do that for
uh, boy, uh, yeah, no, Idefinitely want to check it out
and, uh, I'm looking forward toit.
So I mean, I, like you said,I'll remain skeptical on it
because, uh, previous entriesand you know, there's been more
bad than good in my opinion.
When you bring in all media,like games and stuff like that,
(01:04:43):
there's definitely been a fewlike really good games, but
there's also been some likecrappy stuff.
So it's the same with all mediaand you know, and like stuff
like Prometheus for Alien, likeI just didn't like it.
I wasn't a fan, I think it wasjust a bad movie yeah like it
was, but I mean with with whatyou brought up.
Mark Trobough (01:05:02):
The idea that
there's uh, more bad adaptations
than good, I think is a is atrend that will.
That will continue because, forwhatever reason for this game
that just came out, splitfiction we're already getting a
movie adaptation with I know,yeah, you know why I'm starting
in this movie that's why I'mgonna watch it you you've
(01:05:22):
already decided you're gonnawatch this movie could be
terrible.
It could be terrible odds arethe movie's gonna be bad bro,
I'm gonna watch it suddenly thismovie's like this game's not
even like six months old, butthis is one.
Brandon Hurles (01:05:33):
We do, we do
plan on uh streaming, because
it's like that two-player code.
Mark Trobough (01:05:36):
Yeah, I mean we
need to like.
I don't even.
I haven't played the game yetno, I've heard great things.
Brandon Hurles (01:05:42):
I've heard it's
really really good it's got.
Mark Trobough (01:05:43):
I mean, I've
heard great things too and I
ended up not liking it, so youhaven't even played it.
I don't know.
Well, we gotta play it becausethe people like it doesn't mean
I'm like I could hate it for allI know yeah, you could, but I'm
just saying we got to find outfor ourselves, right?
Brandon Hurles (01:05:57):
we don't trust
the media, so we just find out.
Mark Trobough (01:05:59):
I just think it's
weird that this game isn't that
old.
Brandon Hurles (01:06:02):
It is weird but
the way that I see is probably
just because it was sosuccessful, like it was being
streamed a lot, like it wasgetting really high numbers my.
A lot of games get highstreaming numbers and then you
would never like one, and I'malways skeptical on a video game
movie anymore, but becausesydney sweeney's the only one to
watch it.
Mark Trobough (01:06:19):
So yeah, we all
know why.
You're what you want to watchit she's, uh, she's got branch.
Brandon Hurles (01:06:24):
Once teared her
tits, so okay, that was
unnecessary, but you know justimmediately.
I wasn't saying all that, Ijust said I want to see it
because I think she's a, youknow, interesting person I mean,
we all were thinking it.
Mark Trobough (01:06:39):
I just had the.
I wasn't thinking anything,mark.
Brandon Hurles (01:06:43):
That was all,
you All right, let's move along.
Mark Trobough (01:06:50):
We got some new
official confirmation and some
image drops for the new Pokemontrading card game Pocket
Celestial Guardians set.
I can bring this up real quick.
Oh, okay, I was going to bringit up.
Which is bringing what Sun?
And yeah, it's bringing Sun andMoon.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:04):
There's a video
trailer for it too.
Mark Trobough (01:07:07):
Okay, I grabbed
that because they were giving us
, you know, not surprising.
I'm glad about this because Ireally like.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:14):
While the Sun
and Moon games aren't my
favorite games, I really likethe Legendaries from Sun and
Moon.
Mark Trobough (01:07:23):
I always thought
they were really good designs
and cool Legendaries.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:27):
Yeah, as much as
I both like and don't like Sun
and Moon.
Yeah, I mean, I like them, butthey're just not my favorite.
But they're pretty weak on thestory front.
But the, the pokemon, they,they shared actually I like the
reason, or the low how I say it?
Low in pokemon.
I like the designs, like Iwould say it's different.
Mark Trobough (01:07:47):
I liked it for
the story because it's arguably
one of the more darkest onesthat they've had.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:50):
I didn't like it
, bro?
Have you played black and whitewell?
Mark Trobough (01:07:55):
not even I'm
about to.
Brandon Hurles (01:07:56):
Not even
remotely close to being as dark
as those games.
Mark Trobough (01:08:00):
I would disagree,
son of man is not dark.
Brandon Hurles (01:08:04):
They were like
the brightest games in the
series and like the most like.
Mark Trobough (01:08:08):
You didn't pay
attention to the story.
Brandon Hurles (01:08:10):
Yes, I certainly
did.
I played Ultra and the original.
Mark Trobough (01:08:13):
Do you not
remember the one chick's mom?
She like, yeah, the very end ofthe story was, but it wasn't,
but it wasn't.
Brandon Hurles (01:08:21):
It doesn't even
touch black and white.
I would disagree you're waittill you play back and white too
yeah, whatever, I like thegames for the story.
Mark Trobough (01:08:29):
I didn't like the
gameplay.
I didn't like the.
It was unique, but I I stillprefer, prefer the traditional
gym challenge myself.
As far as Pokemon games go,then again you got Sword and
Shield, and then Scarlet andViolet, which I think the
stories were absolutely terribleand I didn't like them at all.
That's just me.
So, yeah, more cards.
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They're all cinnamon errorcards which we haven't seen in
forever since these games cameout.
So yeah that's a new Robocopgame which we haven't seen in
forever since these games cameout.
Brandon Hurles (01:09:01):
So yeah, oh,
that's a new Robocop game.
By the way, we should probablyadd that to the notes, if we can
.
But what we got next I'll seeif I can grab that up real quick
.
Mark Trobough (01:09:09):
I guess, because
we didn't grab this.
We were talking about it as faras, like, some of the switch to
stuff.
Not surprisingly, becausepeople have done this in the
past.
People to combat some of theswitch to stuff.
Not surprisingly, becausepeople have done this in the
past.
Uh, people to combat some ofthe uh.
Uh, there's not combat the bodybut combat the scalping.
Uh, people were posting uh, Idon't technically they're,
they're fake listings for theswitch to, but ideally it's just
(01:09:30):
a piece of paper.
It's our uh MSRP and it'slabeled like hey, this is just a
picture of an image.
Essentially they're.
They're trying to flood the likeebay with that to combat
scalpers, to make it harder andstuff like that well, here's my.
Brandon Hurles (01:09:43):
Here's the
problem with this.
There's a big problem with this.
Yes, they are trying to combatthe scalpers, but the problem
with this is I think this is asuper scummy practice, because
what happens is a lot of peoplewho are you got to, there's a
lot of people that don't want todeal with the pre-order crap
and they're just like they got afew extra dollars and they just
want to get it there.
So they know they're getting it.
That's fine.
I have no problem with, like Isay, don't support scalpers, but
(01:10:07):
if you have the few extradollars like, you can afford it.
If I had the money, maybe Iwould do it that way.
Mark Trobough (01:10:16):
I don't know,
maybe he's going to take these
downs, but like, let's be fair.
Brandon Hurles (01:10:19):
But who buys?
Mark Trobough (01:10:20):
something without
actually reading anything about
it, and that is the point,because these are when you I
don't have it pulled up, but theproduct descriptions, every
time they do this, are floodedwith this is not real.
Brandon Hurles (01:10:29):
Don't buy
Officer you can just wait, it
just depends on if you're ahardcore gamer that wants to get
it early at launch or launchwindow.
I understand to a point, butyes, you should read the
description.
A lot of people don't.
That is their fault, but Istill think it's a bit of a
scummy practice.
(01:10:50):
I don't think eBay should allowthis.
I personally don't.
Mark Trobough (01:10:54):
I don't think
they're going to a hundred
percent.
They're going to go through andstart taking these down, but
the idea is people are.
Brandon Hurles (01:10:58):
This is the only
way they can and they're like
you get my receipt from buyingthe game.
It says that they repeat it intheir description and this sold
by way.
This was a sold listing andlooked at somebody shared it on
facebook or something and Ilooked at it as like they
repeated it twice, said this isa copy of my receipt for buying
the game.
That is what you are buying.
You are not buying the videogame system and it's sold for
(01:11:20):
$800.
Mark Trobough (01:11:22):
Probably cause I
didn't read it and they're going
to refund the money back.
Brandon Hurles (01:11:26):
Yeah.
Mark Trobough (01:11:26):
It's crazy.
Brandon Hurles (01:11:27):
Yeah, there are
so many games to play.
But you know people get excitedabout these.
I get very excited aboutconsole launches.
So I I understand to a point.
If you can afford it and it'snot money's not a problem, then
whatever do, I don't care whatyou do with your money.
I say don't support scalpers,but do what you want to do.
It's not my decision, you know.
So, you mind if I show thisRobocop trailer real quick.
No, you didn't have it in thenotes.
(01:11:48):
Okay, uh, but yeah, we got theannouncement unfinished business
.
Funny enough, I just beat thisgame two weeks ago, so now we're
getting uh, see if I get a fullscreen here and, uh, now we're
getting a a new uh story trailerhere for this.
So this looks pretty uh.
I watched it already.
It looks pretty cool.
The game's pretty fun.
(01:12:08):
Uh, it's.
It's a bit repetitive, but it'sfun.
I played all the way through.
I thought I think, uh, it tookme 10 hours to beat the game.
Uh, and I just played it likean hour before work each day and
beat it in like a week, but itwas pretty fun.
I like RoboCop a lot, so that'sthe main reason it kept me
around with the game.
But it's one of those gameswhere all the decisions you make
(01:12:30):
with the NPCs affect the finaloutcome of the game, which is
pretty cool.
So you've got to select whatyou think is right.
You've either got to be on theside of the wall or on the side
of making the civilians like youmore.
So you're.
You're picking between thosetwo.
Do you want to defend the wallor do you want the civilians to
like you better?
And each thing you selectaffects the end of the game.
(01:12:51):
So it's a really, really coolpremise.
I think Robocop's a badasscharacter.
I've always liked the moviesand stuff, so you know I it was
very 80s style type game fps.
It really feels like you'replaying robocop when you care,
uh are playing him, because he'sa little bit slower, like a
robot would be.
Um, so you got to be a littlemore methodical with with uh, uh
(01:13:12):
when you have like 12 enemieson screen and stuff, since you
are a little bit slower, um,getting in cover and stuff like
that.
But yeah, unfinished business.
You wishlist it.
Now it's coming out July 17th2025.
What I do not know, though, iswhether this is a full new game
or if this is DLC, because itdidn't actually specify that on
there, so I don't have to lookinto it.
Mark Trobough (01:13:33):
Yeah, I have to
look into it but I did want to
share that and I don't know whyI have to pull this up every
time.
Hopefully the volume is good onthis.
Every time you think of robocop, you think of detroit yeah
right, that's where the originalshow is in.
I always think of this, thisclip right here take him to
detroit.
No, no, no, no.
(01:13:55):
I'm sorry, it's just so funnyto me.
It's funny.
Brandon Hurles (01:14:05):
It's like the
perfect reaction to anybody that
goes to Detroit, michigan doessuck Everything Football team,
so does Cleveland.
Mark Trobough (01:14:09):
That's my
reaction every time I have to go
to Cleveland, which I've beenthere twice.
Brandon Hurles (01:14:16):
Michigan's just
in general, all the sports teams
, they all suck right, all right.
Mark Trobough (01:14:20):
You're going a
little too far there, but this
is some fighting words, uh mrcoffee talking about you know
movies and stuff like that,unless, oh, you can bring that
up real quick yeah, mr coffeesaid did you see that one
streamer?
Brandon Hurles (01:14:31):
he was bragging,
he got to switch online.
Uh, he showed off his pre-orderon the stream and a few minutes
later he gets an email sayinghis order was canceled.
Seemed like someone waswatching a stream, was able to
see the order.
Uh, was able to see his orderwas canceled.
Or, it seems like somebody waswatching a stream, was able to
see the order number.
Got to walmart and canceled it.
Yeah, well, that's what happens, you know don't share this, you
(01:14:54):
don't.
You don't share yeah, yeah, forsure, for sure but apparently
there was.
Mark Trobough (01:15:00):
There's a news
going around they're working on
a toys r us movie yes, yeah withinspiration from ninth museum
back to the future and big.
So when I heard this I'm likethis is stupid.
But I guess, actually thinkingabout it more than just the
initial actually.
Brandon Hurles (01:15:15):
How does that?
How do you movie?
Mark Trobough (01:15:17):
it'd be one of
two things either it's more of
like a night at the museum whereyou're, it's store or something
.
Yeah, it's like a I don't wantto say like a period piece where
they actually come to life, orit's more of like a I don't know
.
More of like a historical drama, but more of like the story of
like the founding and how it gotpop.
More of like the the story oflike the founding and how it got
(01:15:38):
popping.
More of like a documentarystyle movie, if that makes sense
I don't think it's gonna be adocumentary I think that'd be
successful.
Brandon Hurles (01:15:43):
I think the
sonic, the hedgehog movie
producers are doing this, whichhave a good track record,
obviously, with those movies.
Mark Trobough (01:15:49):
So that has me,
um you know more on a positive
note with it, uh but it's aweird premise, though just
saying that it's like, oh, amovie based on toys r us, you're
like I'm what?
That sounds stupid it does.
Brandon Hurles (01:16:00):
But I have I
have such a soft spot for uh
toys r us and if it is somethingthat's in line like, maybe,
night's museum where toys turnedalive, or it could be something
entirely different.
We have no idea.
Mark Trobough (01:16:10):
We don't know any
firm details about the cast or
anything back in the day whenyou could back in the day, when
you could go there and likethey'd have, like the, the demo,
like we're now like they.
They have them behind thescreens for the video games, but
it's just that we're back inthe day you can have play like
the demos and stuff, like ofgames and stuff yeah, yeah, you
go to walmart or something likethat.
You, just while your parents areshopping, you're just there.
You and how many other kids arethere just playing, like you
(01:16:32):
know, ps3 or gamecube or 64 orsomething like that You'd be,
literally breaking your neck,looking straight up, because the
controller would be where youare the TV's way, at the top of
the shelf.
You're breaking your neck.
I'm playing video games.
Brandon Hurles (01:16:46):
And then I did
want to quickly share.
We had some notes.
We are celebrating the firstanniversary of Stellar Blade, a
game we both liked.
No news necessarily there, butthe PC version will be coming
out soon.
That might be a double dip forboth of us, I don't know yet it
already is all right, I'malready gonna get that game
playing on pc but I'll tell youwhat else I'm excited.
We're right underneath it.
They commented, um, becauseit's going to be very similar to
(01:17:09):
the game, but wu chang fallenfeathers.
I'm so stoked for that game,man.
I am so excited for that game.
I cannot.
These Chinese companies arejust pumping out these great
games.
Crazy, these games I'm likereally interested in.
Mr Coffee said I saw the HasbroNFL collab.
They're making these NFLhelmets to transform.
Mark Trobough (01:17:27):
Oh wow, oh nice,
Crazy.
But speaking of toys that cometo life, we're getting more
life-size Pokemon plushies.
Brandon Hurles (01:17:36):
Oh my gosh, got
an instant pre-order I thought
there's a friend who's gonna dohe went in there for the guard
of war.
Mark Trobough (01:17:43):
But yeah, I don't
like uh, they're bad, just as
expensive.
There's like what four they're?
Brandon Hurles (01:17:49):
310 dollars, uh
usd when uh uh transferred over
from yen, so uh but I think ontheir website.
They're actually like 350, if Iremember seeing what I seen.
Mark Trobough (01:18:02):
You look, let me
look back at the messages I sent
you I mean they're gonna belike you know, if you're gonna
buy them in the us, probablycloser to 400 dollars, yeah, so
the official prices are yeah,the official prices are 400 each
yeah, I mean they're, they're,they're essentially like they're
huge, they are the size of thepokemon, but uh, it's like,
here's now that umbreon.
Brandon Hurles (01:18:22):
If they were
doing umbreon right now, I'll be
honest with you, it'd beumbreon and, uh, gardevoir that
I'd want.
I might.
I might convince myself to getjust umbreon, because I already
missed out on gardevoir andgardevoir.
It's a little weird to have alife size yeah, because that's
right.
Mark Trobough (01:18:38):
Yeah, as of right
now.
Uh, they're just doingobviously, you can get plushies
of all these are not life size,though, but they're just doing
the, uh, the jolteon, flareonand yeah, uh, I can't remember
the other name for the for thewater one vaporion vaporon.
Yeah, I couldn't think of thename, sorry.
Brandon Hurles (01:18:57):
Non-Pokemon fan.
Mark Trobough (01:18:58):
Oh, my god
whatever.
Brandon Hurles (01:18:59):
But no, the
Umbreon, I might justify.
I don't know.
Yet it's so much funny I don'tknow I might justify, we'll see.
It is my second favoritePokemon.
I don't know, I mean, I don'tknow.
They sell out immediately,obviously, favorite pokemon.
Mark Trobough (01:19:17):
I don't know, I
mean I I don't know they sell
out immediately.
Obviously they're very in theband.
I mean, they're just doingpre-orders now and, yeah,
they're gonna sell out very,very quickly.
Brandon Hurles (01:19:22):
Yeah, but again
you missed your opportunity.
Now a thousand dollars on ebay.
I'm like a black light.
I'd get a black light if you'regonna want you once.
Mark Trobough (01:19:28):
You want it to
arrive, just to make sure you're
safe.
Brandon Hurles (01:19:30):
But a black
light.
Yeah, what do you mean?
If you know, you know, I don'tknow how, one of the reasons why
, like the Gardevoir is a littleweird to get because it look
it's just like kind of a.
Mark Trobough (01:19:46):
It's kind of kind
of weird a little bit it is a
little weird to the averageperson, isn't it it?
Brandon Hurles (01:19:52):
is my favorite
Pokemon, but somebody that
doesn't know Pokemon is likewhat.
What in the hell is wrong withyou?
I know Pokemon is, and that'swhat I'm saying I mean, it's a
great pokemon but it's like it's, it's weird to have a life size
of it, although I do regret notgetting it just because the
aftermarket price is stupid.
But 400 is just crazy, man, ingeneral it's just like
ridiculous.
(01:20:12):
But they sell out, so they knowwhat they're doing, I guess
yeah uh, but we didn't get some.
Mark Trobough (01:20:16):
Nor, you know, if
you want to say positive news
for for switch to games coming,because a lot of the third
parties are doing digital butthey're doing the, the game key
cards, because they're cheap.
Essentially, there's no betterway to say it this point, or
their games just gonna be toobig and they don't want to deal
with trying to, you know,compress it, uh.
But all marvels, usa came outand pretty much said all their
games will not require adownload.
(01:20:38):
Their, their whole game will beon the cartridge.
No download required to playthese games.
Um, which is good news, becausemost of the third-party games
are just going to do that.
Brandon Hurles (01:20:47):
The, uh, yeah,
thing to add on to that, every
single sega launch windowrelease and and launch day
release are all game key cards,including sonic shadow
generations, yakuza zero,director's cut, uh raidu,
remastered two-point museum andpuyo puyo, tetris 2s.
So all of those are game keycards, which is super
(01:21:09):
unfortunate because I was like,oh, I didn't grab sonic shadow
generations yet something I wantto play.
Yeah, I'll get on switch to.
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm sorry, but just personallyI'm not going to buy any key
cards unless it like pops up onamazon for 10 bucks or something
where it's cheaper than gettingit digitally.
Yeah, I mean that I can justify, but like in general.
Mark Trobough (01:21:29):
If it's just a
download key, what's the point
of getting the physical at allat that point?
Brandon Hurles (01:21:32):
yeah, unless
it's cheaper than any digital
that's out there.
Mark Trobough (01:21:36):
I don't already
have it on Steam or something
like that?
Brandon Hurles (01:21:39):
Yeah, it's one
of those things where it's like
I have no desire to collectthese on my shelf game key cards
.
I just don't.
But, like I said, if it's areally, really good deal I will
get it, if it's something I wantto play because my only other
option is digital.
So it's like if it's cheaperthan the digital like cheaper
than the digital, like on a saleor something.
You know amazon pick up 10games all the time, then I'll
get it.
You know I'm not necessarilyhappy that it's a game key card,
(01:22:01):
but in general I don't likethis practice.
Mark Trobough (01:22:03):
So yeah, I mean
they put some of the games they
worked on for the switch withthe uh daemon, uh machina game
yeah, daemon, yeah, they workedon some uh fate xdeli games.
Brandon Hurles (01:22:13):
Goddard daemon x
machina is is a non-game key
card, so I am getting that one,and I did get cyberpunk as well,
because it's a non-game keycard.
Mark Trobough (01:22:21):
So which was
really surprising too.
Brandon Hurles (01:22:23):
Yeah, and like
the big one that 64 gigabyte and
actually looks pretty good andruns pretty good.
Mark Trobough (01:22:28):
So yeah, uh, you
know, because they also worked
on some of the no more heroesgames, ruin factory story
seasons.
They worked on some monsterhunter Stories games and stuff
like that A lot of their games.
They haven't posted a HarvestMoon game in forever but they've
made those.
They've worked on a lot of theSenran Kagura games which
hopefully the game series cancome back, and stuff like that.
(01:22:51):
They've got a good history ofreally good games.
Brandon Hurles (01:22:54):
They're
definitely a.
Mark Trobough (01:22:55):
Japanese company.
Brandon Hurles (01:22:56):
Mr Coffee,
japanese homes are generally
very, very small, so I'm notsure about that, but they are
being sold, obviously, in the ustoo.
My assumption is probably moreof these are actually selling to
us than they are in japan, justbecause of space from what I I
mean that makes sense.
Mark Trobough (01:23:12):
Why the cartridge
, like everything's, just
smaller it's the portable theplushies.
He's asking about the japanesehomes being small you're just
gonna buy like one, it's justlike a use it like a hello or
something like that.
Yeah, oh, sorry, I think youshould talk about some other
stuff like that's a that's athird-party decision.
Brandon Hurles (01:23:29):
That's just
pretty, that's straight yeah,
it's not a nintendo decision onthat front, but it is
unfortunate that a game that'ssuper, super, super small, like
two point museum and po potetris 2s, are on game key cards
.
Those are very small games.
I already have po po tetris 2on switch.
It's on the cart, but this isthe new s version that's got
extra content.
(01:23:49):
Like two point, museum is avery small game that could
easily fit on one of the gamecards, but for some reason sega
is opting to not do this.
So if this is how it's going tocontinue with sega, I imagine I
won't have a lot of sega gameson my switch to, which is
unfortunate because I love thecompany, I mean yakuza card.
I'm like a dragon all thosegames are coming out.
You know, yeah, a lot of itI'll probably get on like pc or
(01:24:13):
whatever.
But for the physical stuff thatI want to get and I want to
play on the Switch 2, then it'sunfortunate because there is
going to be some stuff that Iwant to get and if it's cheaper
I'll get it on Switch 2.
I don't care necessarily aboutwhat platform I'm playing on
necessarily.
That doesn't necessarily matterto me.
Yes, I'd love to play PC, butfor me if it's cheaper on a
(01:24:36):
certain platform, it just givesme more opportunity to play that
platform more.
So I don't necessarily care IfI find a game that's $10 on the
Series X when I'd rather play iton the Switch or PS5 or PC,
I'll still get it on that.
I bought a $5, $10 game on theSeries X, which is the platform
I played the least, but I'llstill get it.
I don't care.
Mark Trobough (01:25:05):
I'm just there to
play the game, so to me the
platform doesn't matter.
Brandon Hurles (01:25:06):
So yeah, yeah,
just is it?
Is it physical or is itdownload, like that?
That matters, that's a problem.
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm sorry.
I'm not supporting the practiceof the game key card stuff
unless it's super on sale or thecompany's making like no money.
Mark Trobough (01:25:14):
So yeah, that's
just my stance on it.
I'm sorry you're good,something small, real quick.
Uh, if you're into usingpokemon home, they're adding uh,
uh you can metal features andstuff like that and they're
allowing you to uh trade betweenplayers, uh, pokemon events for
these metals using pokemon home, which I use pokemon home.
(01:25:34):
I don't really care about thesemetal things, but if you are
like into that, I guess good foryou.
Brandon Hurles (01:25:40):
I'm not a
Pokemon fan necessarily, but
it's not an update that I carefor.
Yeah, not a big Pokemon fan.
Mark Trobough (01:25:49):
But if you are an
F zero 99 fan, you get an
update coming in April.
You get version 1.6, which isbringing in Mirror and Classic
tracks, as well as a mini worldtour event and vehicle
customization to the game.
Brandon Hurles (01:26:04):
It's cool.
It's cool to see this gamestill getting so much support.
Mark Trobough (01:26:08):
I mean it's
getting support because I mean
there's obviously still a lot oflove for it, a lot of people
playing.
Brandon Hurles (01:26:13):
I mean granted.
Mark Trobough (01:26:13):
When's the last
time an F-Zero game came out?
Brandon Hurles (01:26:18):
To be fair.
But you know what's cool?
We don't have it in the news,I'm sure, but we did get the
final F-Zero game coming toSwitch Online.
F-zero GX, the one everybodywanted, it's coming to Switch
Online.
Mark Trobough (01:26:26):
What people
really want is a new F-Zero game
.
Brandon Hurles (01:26:28):
They do but I
think this is leading to us
getting a new F-Zero theywouldn't continue to support
that.
Mark Trobough (01:26:36):
There wasn't a
demand for it, which means
there's obviously demand forthis game series.
Brandon Hurles (01:26:39):
Don't you think
that's good news?
The gx is on switch online,because that mean leaves the the
last.
Really, I'd say yes and no it's.
Mark Trobough (01:26:46):
It's not
surprising they're bringing
their old like it's just likeone of those games was
inevitably going to come over.
But if there's still a lot ofpopularity for f0, it is
hopefully giving game.
Brandon Hurles (01:26:56):
We got the game.
Mark Trobough (01:26:56):
It game, it's
getting hopefully the the people
playing that game.
There's a decent amount ofpeople that play it, so there's
like showing nintendo.
Hey, there is a good audiencehere for another f-zero game.
Hopefully you're behind thescenes still working on one, so
it comes out here pretty soon.
Brandon Hurles (01:27:10):
But it's crazy,
it's been forever I get that
point, but I it is good to getmore games on the console.
I just I don't like the conceptof game key card in general.
Mark Trobough (01:27:22):
I just don't, I
can't get on board with it
really other than that you canjust buy it online and just
download it digitally.
What's the point of buying thephysical at that point?
Brandon Hurles (01:27:33):
but do people
really want F-Zero?
I mean I see a lot of peopleasking for F-Zero.
I want a new F-Zero.
I mean I see a lot of peopleasking for F-Zero, I want a new
F-Zero.
So I mean I'm sure there's anaudience for it.
And if it's on Switch 2, withthe amount of consoles that will
be out there.
We know the Switch effect right, where every single franchise
(01:27:54):
on the Switch, if the game cameout on Switch, that franchise
got 100x bigger.
You look at Metroid Dread right, the best-selling Metroid now
of all time.
It of course is not still crazyunits, but it upped the
franchise a ton just being onSwitch.
You think of Animal Crossingbigger than ever.
You think of Pikmin bigger thanever.
(01:28:14):
Mario Kart bigger than ever.
Every single franchise thattouches the pikmin bigger than
ever.
Mario kart bigger than ever.
Every single franchise thattouches the switch is bigger
than it's ever been.
So, uh, the switch to effectwill be the same, same exact
thing.
If you ask me, and I think thatwith f zero drops, no, it won't
be in the top 10.
You know first party releases,but that doesn't matter, as long
as it makes money and hits theaudience and people pick it up.
(01:28:35):
As long as they make money, youknow from it, then it's worth
the release.
So, and I think it definitely,definitely will.
Mark Trobough (01:28:42):
So yeah, and then
, uh, surprisingly I'm sure
you're shocked that the nintendo3ds is uh, has some news that
just dropped here recently.
Uh, so obviously this has beenout of print for forever now.
But if you still happen to haveyours and you find yourself in
kyoto going to the nintendomuseum, you can use these street
paths to get exclusive me's ofuh miyamoto takahashi and uh
(01:29:08):
furukawa, or if I am sure Ibutchered that name.
But furukawa furukawa.
Yeah, that's all all there is toit, but the fact that there's
even some level of support stillfor the 3DS and the Street Pass
, which I know is one of the bigthings that people really liked
about the 3DS and stuff likethat and 2DS.
Brandon Hurles (01:29:28):
Yeah, I would
absolutely take mine.
I still take mine to everyconvention.
I go and I get tons of StreetPasses.
Mark Trobough (01:29:33):
There's a lot of
good games on the DSs and 3ds
absolutely mine's plugged up atall times, ready to play, so I I
love it I mean, let's be fair,there's still a lot of pokemon
games stuck on the ds, yep orpretty much all of the
pre-switch.
Uh, pokemon games are stuck onthe, on the ds or the 3ds, if
you're able to get themdigitally downloaded before the.
(01:29:53):
The store shut down.
Yes last year, yeah year.
It sucks that they just refusedto bring those back to the
modern console at this pointit's a whole other issue.
I feel like we've talked todeath at this point.
In previous episodes aboutwanting those games.
Brandon Hurles (01:30:09):
I know we
definitely did.
It looks like we also got.
A tech company is looking toreplace GameStop store by store
Retail chain.
Paymore is buying old GameStoplocations, aiming to create more
vibrant, community focusedspaces.
Gamestop has closed over 700stores since 2020, including
mine.
Paymore has been expandingrapidly, with 18 stores opening
(01:30:31):
in March 2025, and it projected150 by the end of the year, so
they're looking to buy all ofthese out.
It looks like they've beenshutting down at an increasing
rate, obviously since COVID.
Many of these closures are dueto the rising prevalence of
online shopping, which hascaused GameStop to start looking
into alternative revenuesources, like NFTs stupid and
(01:30:52):
investing in Bitcoin even morestupider.
These efforts have done littleto quell the number of physical
GameStop location closures overthe past years, with over 700
stores locking their doors forgood since 2020.
Looks like Paymore GrowingChain and Technology stores or
customers can trade in their oldelectronics reporting buying
closed GameStop locations.
(01:31:12):
They're going to convert thesestores into vibrant,
community-focused spaces thatprioritize flexibility, fairness
and sustainability.
Paymore notes that it andGameStop utilize similar
commercial footprints and thatcustomers have increasingly
turned to Paymore for itsconcentrating needs in the wake
of GameStop closures, so itlooks like they've been
expanding greatly over the pastyear, with 18 stores opening in
(01:31:34):
March 2025.
While more and more customersare instead doing their video
game shopping online, they'relooking to fill the void left by
game stops, increasing closures.
So not more more, justsurprised by that.
Mark Trobough (01:31:46):
but um, I didn't
necessarily see anything.
I don't know exactly howthey're gonna like turn this
into a store outside of.
You can bring your old tech andsell it and exchange it and
probably buy some stuff there,yeah, they're if they're trying
to like host more communityevents, whether it's like
tabletop card games or just rpgsor just general, a more
sociable place to just playgames and stuff like that that
(01:32:07):
arguably gamestop somewhat dipstheir toes into.
I feel like they should go morethat way instead of just the
like a general pop culture store.
That'd be, that'd be great.
But I have to see if the uh, ifthis is working or they're just
doing this and they'resubsidizing it with the rest of
their, with the rest of theirbusiness behind the scenes, or
they're a lot of their onlinestuff.
(01:32:28):
So hopefully, I mean maybe thiswill give gamestop proper
competition, bring people backto the stores and help both of
them.
Or this is a way to replacegamestop, because arguably you'd
want you want more more gamestores like you just don't want
gamestop.
You want some competition tokind of force both companies to
compete but, like, try to getpeople into physical stores
would be potentially a greatthing absolutely I guess only
(01:32:51):
time will tell with this,because I don't, I don't have
any near me, so I can'timmediately tell you.
Brandon Hurles (01:32:56):
Yeah, I don't
either.
Mark Trobough (01:33:00):
So news to me?
Yeah, also another movie thatpeople are talking about getting
another adaptation.
I will remain skeptical.
Outrun is apparently in theworks to get another live action
, which is an old 86 arcade gamewhere you just drive.
I don't know how you turn thatinto a movie.
Brandon Hurles (01:33:23):
They did the
Gran Turismo movie.
Mark Trobough (01:33:25):
That's crazy.
Yeah, because this is a reallyold game I remember playing
maybe not this one, butsomething similar but you just
drive and until you reach thedestination or you're wrecked or
something like that those oldarcade games that used to have.
Brandon Hurles (01:33:37):
I love OutRun,
but, yeah, how they're going to
turn this into a movie, notquite sure.
Because here's where I'm very,very skeptical.
And listen to this.
This is crazy because we justtalked about it earlier, but
Michael Bay is directing, sothat leaves me very skeptical.
And then Sidney Sweeney isproducing.
Mark Trobough (01:33:58):
I don't know.
I could see this movie beingdone be a complete flop.
I could see it being a reallygood movie.
Brandon Hurles (01:34:06):
Mainly because
there's like no plot.
I'm sorry.
Mark Trobough (01:34:09):
There's no story
to this game.
It's just a racing game, aracing arcade game.
Brandon Hurles (01:34:13):
Best thing he
ever did was Transformers 1.
He ruined the franchise afterthat.
I'm game best thing he ever didwas transforms one.
He ruined the franchise afterthat.
I'm sorry he just I his movieslike I like the movie painting
game a little bit, but it wasover the top and kind of
ridiculous too.
It wasn't a good movie, uh, butyeah, he just puts, he puts out
.
Mark Trobough (01:34:29):
So much outside
of the terrible uh romance
subplot.
Armageddon was really fun movie.
Brandon Hurles (01:34:37):
Just get rid of
that.
Mark Trobough (01:34:38):
The movie's
almost perfect.
It's the epitome of a disastermovie.
Brandon Hurles (01:34:43):
It was fine, I
didn't love it Paris gets
destroyed.
Mark Trobough (01:34:46):
What's not to
like?
Brandon Hurles (01:34:48):
What is it with
you and France, my God?
You need to move there orsomething.
Get cultured, my boy.
Mark Trobough (01:34:56):
France is one of
those things that just peaked
with a point.
It's just been a steadydownhill ever since.
Brandon Hurles (01:35:00):
Probably you
ain't even been there.
Mark Trobough (01:35:03):
Why would I want
to go there?
I?
Brandon Hurles (01:35:07):
don't know, I
don't know.
But yeah, I'll remain skepticalon this for sure With Michael.
Sydney Sweeney is an actor.
She's producing it.
I'm a little confused there.
I like her, but I don't knowhow her skills are behind the
screen.
Mark Trobough (01:35:23):
Yeah, I don't
know.
I guess it's a wait and see.
I got some other news NintendoPokemon news.
Apparently, nintendo is tryingto get Discord to help give them
information for the PokemonTerralyke hacker, which means
they really want to know whothis person is and, just you
know, throw the book at themthat they can, because they're
(01:35:45):
of course really salty aboutthis, about this leak, and they
will.
They're trying to do everythingthey can to what?
Brandon Hurles (01:35:51):
what is the leak
exactly?
Mark Trobough (01:35:53):
I don't know.
Brandon Hurles (01:35:57):
Oh so it looks
like leaked personal financial
info, future Pokemon gamedetails and more.
It's unclear whether Nintendowill pursue legal action.
Mark Trobough (01:36:05):
Well, I mean, why
else would they try to ask
Discord if they're not trying topursue legal action?
Oh yeah, because he also sorryto pull this up he also leaked
part of the source code forpokemon legend za and stuff like
that.
So like, if you're, if you'reoh, I remember that.
Yeah, we talked about that yeah,I, I had to go through because
(01:36:26):
I remember this.
I was trying to like givemyself like a refresh.
I read, yeah, which is secular,like four hours ago, and I'm
like, oh my god, I can'tremember what this was.
I think that was like the bigthing was the uh, was the source
code leak?
Oh, it was really going to beunhappy about.
Brandon Hurles (01:36:39):
It also had the
uh early Pokemon yellow sprites,
for example, which dated backto 1998.
We're not using the finalversion of the game.
We're not meant to be releasedto the public.
Mark Trobough (01:36:49):
That's not a
problem, though I think it's
they.
Brandon Hurles (01:36:50):
They would care
less about that source code for
it, the hack also included amultiplayer game code named
Pokemon Synapse, so a game wedidn't know about.
Mark Trobough (01:37:03):
I think it's
primarily the source code leak
and the fact that certainemployee PII was released and
stuff like that, which is a bigthing for people getting their
identity stolen, yeah, personaland financial info.
Brandon Hurles (01:37:15):
So yeah, it's a
big deal.
Mark Trobough (01:37:17):
So it definitely
makes sense why they're going
after it.
And then I don't know theiridentity.
Yeah, personal financial info.
So, yeah, it's a big deal.
So it definitely makes sensewhy they're going after it.
And then I don't know, outsideof legal issues, why Discord
wouldn't.
But I could see them likerequiring Nintendo and Game
Freak to go through, you know,courts to try to get this
information.
Brandon Hurles (01:37:32):
Potentially,
yeah, for sure.
Mark Trobough (01:37:35):
Or how much
information is even on this
discord that discord couldrelease to them.
But this, this definitely showsthat the tendo and game figure
out to just throw the.
If you're asking uh, I don'tknow why this, why they put it
the article.
If you're asking discord forinformation, you're very
obviously trying to place legalcharges on this person.
Why else would?
Brandon Hurles (01:37:53):
you, would you
continue to?
Mark Trobough (01:37:54):
pursue this you
after the fact Right 100%.
I'm just a journalist beingstupid.
It's very obvious if they'regoing this far.
Brandon Hurles (01:38:04):
but personal
opinion, Name one movie Sydney
Sweeney has done withoutGoogling.
I have no idea.
I couldn't tell you any.
Mark Trobough (01:38:13):
I've only seen a
movie that she's been in.
Brandon Hurles (01:38:15):
to be honest,
yeah, I couldn't name any but
sticking more with the nintendo.
Mark Trobough (01:38:19):
But it's uh,
specifically pokemon.
Uh, there is a?
Uh an official ecologyencyclopedia that's getting
released in japan, uh, june 18th.
Uh, for the thousand thousandor so pokemon with detailed
information.
You know, behavior analysislike this is like uh, sorry, my
nose is getting really cheaplike they're the.
(01:38:41):
The book that's like detailedabout how pokemon would actually
like act and stuff like thatbehavior, kind of like if you're
reading, kind of like a, a bookabout like actual animals would
be the best way to describe it.
It's getting released in japan,uh, with a bunch of jap, uh,
japanese sites.
Uh like, uh, let me read this.
Like amazon japan, rakuten,seven net shopping tower records
(01:39:05):
, hmv and books and stuff likethat.
A bunch of a bunch of japanesewebsites and stores are getting
this and I'm sure like you couldprobably go through amazon
japan and get this book.
It's about ten dollars, yeah itwith the conversion rate or
something like that.
Uh, my nose is itchy all of asudden, but the the problem with
that is it's all gonna bejapanese, so you're just gonna
get this as a collector.
You wouldn't be able to likeread unless you read.
You read japanese or somethinglike that.
(01:39:26):
But right, it'd be nice forsomething like this to uh to
come to the us and stuff likethat I mean they're cool, like
even uh, like that japanese uhpokemon scarlet violet guide.
Brandon Hurles (01:39:35):
You got me like
that's really just cool to look
through and look at the picturesand like all the how it's
different, because I have the USone too and it's just cooler,
it's made better, it's smallerit's like, more compact it's
smaller, more compact.
Mark Trobough (01:39:48):
It's made better,
like it feels more quality.
Bigger ones and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Brandon Hurles (01:39:53):
Yeah, I don't
know why I bought the Scarlet
and Violet guide that I had.
Mark Trobough (01:39:57):
Considering you
can usually Google that stuff
online.
Brandon Hurles (01:39:59):
You don't really
need them anymore, but it was
just a collector thing.
Mark Trobough (01:40:03):
I saw that and I
thought it was a neat little
collector's thing.
You can't read Japanese anyway.
Brandon Hurles (01:40:08):
Not yet
Eventually, I promise Monday.
He's been saying that for 20years.
I have been saying that for 20years I did to be fair, I did do
Japanese courses.
Mark Trobough (01:40:17):
I did do Japanese
course when I grew up.
Ohayo genki desu ka that's allI remember.
Brandon Hurles (01:40:25):
Hello, how are
you?
Mark Trobough (01:40:30):
come in, come in,
as I um, I know, like a handful
of words, it's about it I knowyou said something you swore at
me in japanese I did not.
I don't know any japanese swearwords, uh, but obviously
talking because the cyberpunkgame is the only game coming to
the switch third party right now.
That's actually all on the 64cartridge?
Brandon Hurles (01:40:49):
Well, the only
third party?
Well, no it's not the only one.
All the Marvelous games, theRune Factory and all those,
those are on the card too.
But the big AAA-sized games andstuff like that, big AAA games.
Mark Trobough (01:41:01):
It has come out
that it is using NVIDIA DLSS
technology on the Switch 2 forthis game.
Yeah, so they nvidia dlsstechnology on the switch 2 for
this game.
Yeah, uh, so they're using theswitch 2 for quality mode at 30
fps and dock performance mode at40.
Handheld performance modeupscales to 720 with 40 fps.
This is definitely a game thatreally needs dlss.
That's it's definitely beingdownsized and if you're used to
(01:41:22):
playing this, especially on pc,it's going to be a drop in
quality.
Brandon Hurles (01:41:24):
but it's going
to be a drop in quality, but
it's definitely.
It's definitely playable.
Mark Trobough (01:41:28):
I've seen a bunch
of gameplay this is probably
going to be closest to like thexbox one and the ps4 version of
this game.
Yeah, so what I?
Brandon Hurles (01:41:35):
saw is it's just
a step above the, because those
are 30 frames locked for theyalso don't have, like the dlss
technology, yeah, so these arejust a step above those, um
visually and uh performance wiseyeah, it's more in line with
that.
Mark Trobough (01:41:52):
It's supposed to
be the full game, the dlc and
all, and this is definitely oneof those games that without dlss
, probably just wouldn't be ableto run on the switch now
without cutting a lot of content, really, really downsizing the
overall performance yeah, whichI?
Brandon Hurles (01:42:03):
I mean I expect
it for games like that's why
it's there.
You know, know, I expect it.
I just, you know you don't wantit to be a crutch for
developers, but when it's a game, it's already been out, already
uses DLSS on PC.
Makes sense.
Mark Trobough (01:42:15):
You know I'm not
going to go to me to get this
game because I already have iton PC and PCs the only reason I
am is because it's one of thefew.
Brandon Hurles (01:42:27):
It's one of the
few that are on the card.
Yes, I already have it on PCtoo and I have it on PS4, but
the main reason is I want tocheck it out and I'll probably
end up doing a video about it,just kind of doing a comparison
stuff in my thought, like afirst thoughts video or
something.
But I just thought it's one ofthe few at launch, literally
right now, since Donkey KongBonanza doesn't come out for
(01:42:48):
till July, the only game that Ihave that I'm getting.
I am getting the Damon XMachina game and getting the
collector's edition of thatCause.
That is on the card, but Icannot remember if that is
launch day or not.
But other than that, like I it,I'll have like three games to
play.
I mean that's not much.
So I want to have a few gamesto play on it when it launches
(01:43:09):
and to check out.
So I said, yeah, why not?
It's on the card.
It's definitely different to beable to play on a handheld and
stuff, and I want to check outthe DLSS technology on the
Switch 2.
There's a bunch of reasons.
Mark Trobough (01:43:24):
Actually, if you
ever get around to getting like
a steam deck or like an asusrock ally, this is probably the
game to do a comparison betweenit doesn't even run on the steam
deck.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:32):
That's the crazy
thing it's not.
Mark Trobough (01:43:34):
No, it's not
steam deck compatible.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:36):
They couldn't
even get it to run on the steam
deck.
Mark Trobough (01:43:37):
That's the crazy
thing well, I mean after this is
no, there's no excuse to nothave it on the steam deck.
Well, apparently it hassomething to do it.
Steam Deck doesn't have.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:45):
DLSS technology
and apparently even with the
tech inside the Steam Deck, theycould not get it to perform
right.
Mark Trobough (01:43:51):
Well.
I mean to be fair the Switch 2is going to be much newer, but
that's even more impressive, orwhatever the Steam Deck 2 should
have.
Brandon Hurles (01:43:58):
Yeah, that's why
I said it's really impressive
to me that they got this to runon Steam Deck.
Mark Trobough (01:44:02):
I got the
question is is that an issue
because of the Steam Deck orbecause you're downloading the
PC version of that game?
Brandon Hurles (01:44:09):
That's a good
question.
I'm not sure they had to changestuff, probably behind the
scenes, to get this working.
It could be a bit of both.
I would say Probably a bit ofboth.
Some of the hardware.
Mark Trobough (01:44:18):
They had to do a
lot more work and just straight
down the PC version of the game.
It just doesn't work with whatthe steam deck, although the pc
versions run differently on thesteam like.
Brandon Hurles (01:44:29):
The pc versions
aren't the straight pc port on
the steam deck, if that makessense, like they are optimized
yeah, there's, there's like thedevelopers have to go in and
make it for the steam deck tooyeah, so like it's not, they
don't see the.
Uh, that's why you see like allpeople tweet this is steam deck
compatible, because they had toactually go in and do the work
(01:44:50):
to optimize it for the steamdeck.
Mark Trobough (01:44:51):
It isn't like a
stream optimized for steam deck
isn't that crazy does it work onthe asus rogue ally then, or?
Brandon Hurles (01:44:57):
I don't know if
it runs on that, but I just I
know it doesn't run on the steamdeck.
I watched digital foundriesvideo about it and how they were
talking about all this stuffand why it can run on the Switch
2 and not the Steam Deck andstuff.
Mark Trobough (01:45:07):
Well, it runs,
because they made it run on the
Switch 2 and they didn't care,and what's the team's name again
?
Brandon Hurles (01:45:17):
Was it Project
Red?
Sorry, they said they had a bitof a tumultuous time doing this
because they were learning howto do the DLSS technology.
Mark Trobough (01:45:28):
I don't think
they've ever used the.
Has CD Projekt Red ever usedNintendo hardware for any of
their games?
Brandon Hurles (01:45:36):
I don't think
they've ever used it.
They did Witcher on.
They did Witcher on Switch.
Mark Trobough (01:45:43):
Okay.
Brandon Hurles (01:45:44):
But other than
that it's a much older game too.
Yeah, it was a little outsideof that one game like I don't
think they've done anything elsefor a game like this.
Mark Trobough (01:45:53):
They're just not
familiar.
It's probably a mixture ofthey're trying to make it fit on
this and they're using hardwarethey've never really used,
right, they've used to make theconsoles and pcs and stuff like
that.
Brandon Hurles (01:46:02):
So yeah, I think
, other than that, no, they
haven't done anything else onSwitch hardware.
It is cool, man.
I like to see how these gamesare going to be performing on
even the launch day.
Obviously, games are just goingto get better and better and
better as people utilize theDLSS more and understand it more
.
Things are just going to getbetter.
(01:46:23):
End-of-life cycle games arealways better than stuff that
launch.
I'm really curious to see howthis is at launch and then how
we are at the end of you knowthe lifespan with how games are
performing.
Games like this, as we'regetting new games like this,
opens the door very much so foryou know, the possibility of
grand theft auto 5 being on theswitch 2.
Um, I could see it being donenow.
(01:46:44):
It does actually make a lotmore sense.
There is more power than weeven thought before on the
switch shoes, so there's apossibility.
Man, there's obviously rockstargames.
If they can do it on the switchshoe, they're going to.
They don't want to miss thatinstall base.
Mark Trobough (01:46:58):
So yeah,
especially considering you're
expecting at least the, theswitch to, to be fairly
successful.
Oh yeah At to be fairlysuccessful oh yeah, at least on
par with what the playstation,the xbox, are doing.
As far as for sure, I it, maybeit.
It will be a highly successfulconsole.
If it hits 100 million, yeah,as long as it hits like 60 to 80
million, I think it'll.
Brandon Hurles (01:47:15):
It'll still be a
successful console for nintendo
and then I did want to bring upuh, not that we necessarily
care about it, but this is bignews because we're finally
seeing the return of thisfranchise and these games back
to a Nintendo console.
Madden got announced, theregular version of Madden that's
coming out, the new one gotannounced for the Switch.
So that's really good news.
(01:47:37):
I don't, like I said, I'm not asports game guy, but this is
really good news to see thesebig, big, big third-party titles
that are massive, massivesellers, make their way back to
the Nintendo console, afterskipping out pretty much on the
Switch and now they can run andlook good and perform well.
So it makes sense.
Mark Trobough (01:47:56):
Yeah, I mean it's
been forever since Nintendo's
actually had decent hardware intheir consoles.
Brandon Hurles (01:48:00):
Yeah, for sure.
Mark Trobough (01:48:01):
Switch was great,
but even from day one it was
not the best.
Brandon Hurles (01:48:05):
Yeah, it
launched being a weak console.
Mark Trobough (01:48:07):
But they Even
from day one.
It was not the best.
It launched being a weakconsole.
Brandon Hurles (01:48:09):
They had to to
keep the price down.
Mark Trobough (01:48:10):
They had to yeah.
Brandon Hurles (01:48:11):
But it is cool
to see, man, that we're getting
these third parties jumping backon the bandwagon.
That's just good news forNintendo, that's good news for
the consumers.
So yeah, man, it's cool to see.
Mark Trobough (01:48:22):
Yeah, I don't
know if we kind of.
I talked about some of these,some of the switch to stuff,
obviously because of the highdemand, don't be?
It would not be uh surprisingif some people, whether it's
through nintendo's website orthrough the third party, you get
it, you know, not on launch day.
Obviously some some websiteslike walmart say you will,
(01:48:43):
you'll get it that morning, butlike anything else, have you
ever bought anything?
I don't think this is toosurprising because shipping
stuff there can be delays forwhatever reason.
So I'm sure somebody's going tobe complaining about that, even
if they buy it throughNintendo's website.
It got here three days too late.
I'm like, bro, you're gettingstuff shipped through the mail.
It's not surprising.
Brandon Hurles (01:49:03):
Yeah, so some of
the stuff they said.
They said update about, uh,release day delivery.
Thank you to those of you whohave already registered your
interest in purchasing from mynintendo store.
We're thrilled by theenthusiasm for nintendo switch 2
.
Due to the very high demand, wewill be working diligently to
fulfill orders as productbecomes available.
But delivery by june 5th is notguaranteed.
(01:49:25):
Your invitation email mayarrive after the Nintendo Switch
2 launch.
We'll confirm your shippingdate upon purchase.
If you wish to increase youropportunity of obtaining a
Switch 2 system at launch,please visit our participating
retail partners above.
If you wish to continue to waitfor your invitation from mine
into the store, no furtheraction is required after
registering your entrance.
So their one store they putthere is GameStop, which I find
(01:49:49):
very funny.
Mark Trobough (01:49:51):
It's going to be
the only one that probably has
stock at release.
That's not pre-order related.
Brandon Hurles (01:49:56):
Probably, but it
is.
I mean they are saying so.
Do not rely on the my Nintendostore, because they're saying it
could potentially be after thelaunch of the console that you
get the email.
Mark Trobough (01:50:06):
So I didn't want
to point that out because demand
is that high and they're havingto probably move stuff around
and stuff like that.
Be like uh, you'll get it,we'll let you buy it, but you're
gonna get it like several weeksafter it's been out, like a
month after it's been out yeah,for sure.
Brandon Hurles (01:50:22):
I mean it's uh,
just don't rely on if you're
wanting to get it at launch ornear launch.
Mark Trobough (01:50:27):
So if you wanted
to launch near launch you,
probably you would have alreadytried to buy it by now.
You already got it from thethird party.
Brandon Hurles (01:50:34):
Or if you're one
of the unlucky few that tried
to get it and couldn't get it.
You know, of course.
Yeah, so.
Mark Trobough (01:50:41):
But yeah, some
other stuff that was neat to say
, and this is coming fromGameStop.
Some people might see a rare W.
They say they're going to goback through their pre-orders
and they're going to cancel botand duplicate switch to
pre-orders to try to hopefullyreopen inventory and to reopen
pre-orders for whatever extrastuff they have Big W on
(01:51:03):
GameStop.
I don't know how they figure outwhat's a bot and what's not,
unless they're looking atdelivery addresses.
Potentially, I'm sure there's away they can say that.
But if there's a way to combatbot traffic that these companies
can see and they know it's abot traffic, that's a great
thing.
More of them should do it tocombat scalpers and stuff like
(01:51:23):
that, especially when people arejust trying to buy dozens of
them all at once just to resellthem yeah, it says uh, they put
a tweet out it says pre-ordersfor switch 2 are sold out online
but still available in store.
Brandon Hurles (01:51:38):
So this was, I
think, like 25 hours ago or
something.
Um, but they said nintendoswitch 2 pre-orders have sold
out online.
We will continue to squash botand duplicate orders to reopen
inventory.
Pre-orders have sold out online.
We will continue to squash botand duplicate orders to reopen
inventory.
Pre-orders are still availablein-store for the Nintendo Switch
2 and Nintendo Switch 2 PlusMario Kart bundle Games and
accessories.
Check your local GameStop storefor current inventory status
(01:51:59):
and stay tuned for more updatesregarding Switch 2.
So big W on GameStop's part forthat, because you know they get
a lot of flack.
But man, they've handled thispre-order very well.
I would say better thanprobably.
Obviously there are theproblems with the gamestop
pre-order yesterday with theirsite, where it completely was
the only website that completelycrashed.
Mark Trobough (01:52:17):
You could not
pre-order nobody I mean you're,
you're essentially, you'reessentially everyone's ddossing
these websites yeah, basicallyyou have initial problems.
Brandon Hurles (01:52:25):
It was so funny
that it took like I think it
took like 38 minutes beforeanybody could even place a
single pre-order, becausebecause everyone logged that.
Mark Trobough (01:52:32):
You know that
couldn't get it the night before
, was immediately doing this allat once and this the website
office.
Brandon Hurles (01:52:37):
You can't handle
the traffic so but they handled
it really well for in-storepre-orders and stuff like that.
Mark Trobough (01:52:42):
So that's really
cool man I'm, you know which is
probably for a lot of peoplelike the way to go.
Like if you're, if you had likethe night and the day to just
sit in line, like yeah, it's alllike that and you knew, you
know what the store was going tohave wait in the line and get
it, because that's probably fora lot of people, going to be the
best bet.
Brandon Hurles (01:52:56):
It's like, if I
can't get it online, I'm going
to go wait in line or I'm goingto do both and see what I get
yeah, and then gamestop alsorevealed trade-in values for
Nintendo Switch whenpre-ordering Switch 2, so they
said they will offer up to $175credit towards the Switch 2
pre-order.
When trading in the originalmodels, the Switch OLED fetches
the highest potential trade-invalue at $175.
(01:53:17):
I'm confused.
It's the same price.
Mark Trobough (01:53:19):
That's probably.
I don't know if they releasedit.
They say that's probably thetrade-in value right now.
So I'd assume you're going toget probably something closer to
200 or they're just going totake the 175.
But I mean the idea, if you're,if you're able to pre-order it
and then get some money back onit.
Brandon Hurles (01:53:34):
It makes the,
the console significantly.
That's not a terrible trade-inprice when you think.
You know the the base switch is300.
Mark Trobough (01:53:39):
So you're looking
at, you know, because you also
have to think like they have tolike potentially refurbish these
and then, yeah, gamestop has tobuy it from you, make sure it
works, repackage it and resellit and still make a profit,
which is a lot of peoplecomplain about gamestop.
I'm like, yeah, they're gonna,they're gonna buy your stuff for
sure.
Then they have to turn aroundand resell it for what they can,
so obviously you're gonna losemoney, which is like the one
people complain about gamestopfor they the.
Brandon Hurles (01:54:01):
The article was
wrong here.
At the bottom they put switchlight up to a hundred dollar
credit, switch v1 or v2 up to125 credit and switch oled up to
175 credit that makes a lotmore sense so that's not as good
as I was at 200 for the switch.
It would make a little moresense to me, but most people
that want to switch by nowalready have one.
Mark Trobough (01:54:22):
So like, what's
the resale value on these
switches, especially with theswitch two coming out?
I guess?
Brandon Hurles (01:54:26):
the.
The other thing is I will say Iknow a lot of people do have to
do this and I understand, youknow if you're financially just
can't afford to keep yourconsole.
But if you can't afford to keepyour console, I definitely
recommend doing that because Iknow for me me and Mark have
talked about this extensivelyit's like a regret when you lose
your console eventually.
(01:54:47):
Like talked about thisextensively, it's like a regret
when you lose your consoleeventually, like in the future.
Mark Trobough (01:54:50):
You're like oh,
man, I really wish I would have
done that because the switch 2is largely backwards compatible
outside of a handful of gameslike it's.
It's less of a problem comparedto, uh, when consoles weren't
backwards compatible like youlike for the ps3, like it's not,
like the ps4 doesn't play ps3games.
You have to have that consolefor those games where, if it's
like, mostly outside of likemaybe a handful of games because
(01:55:13):
of the way the the console isdesigned, yeah, most games that
people would care about arebackwards compatible.
I could see this being less ofan issue because it's just a
more powerful switch yeah, Imean it is less of an issue with
this console.
Brandon Hurles (01:55:25):
I know both me
and you are keeping our Switches
, but there's something whenit's like I bought that console.
I spent so many hours on thatconsole Like I just want to keep
it, you know.
Mark Trobough (01:55:34):
Even if it's in a
box on a shelf.
Brandon Hurles (01:55:36):
I'll still use
it.
I'll still use the Switch OLEDfor Stuff too, and I got plans
on stuff I'm doing with it lateron.
But yeah, I mean you know,entirely Up to you.
But it's one of the things Iknow where I always end up
regretting if I lose a console.
I did trade in my ps5 for theps5 pro, but that is different
in the fact that it's the sameconsole, just an upgraded
version.
Mark Trobough (01:55:55):
So to me that
didn't matter as much so yeah,
my copy brought up the resalevalue is gonna be.
He said, uh, fifty dollars lessthan a brand new one.
But that's the thing.
Gamestop will buy your consoleon the spot where let's be fair
there's a lot more stuff youhave to do.
You can make more money sellingit yourself, but there's a lot
more work you have to doyourself as well.
Especially, you're competingagainst a lot of other people
(01:56:15):
and stuff.
So there's a.
You also have to make sure youship it and stuff.
So it's just one of thosethings where it's you get less
money, but GameStop's justeasier for a lot of people
compared to having to go throughall the extra stuff.
Brandon Hurles (01:56:27):
And he brought
up a really great point.
If you have a special edition,I don't recommend trading it in
because you do not get any moredifference in value.
If you got the Zelda OLED orsomething, I would hold on to
that.
If you can, I wouldn't trade itin.
Mark Trobough (01:56:41):
That's a
collector's item.
If you were going to sell those, you would want to sell those.
You'd want to sell the secondhand or even the Pyro Edition.
Brandon Hurles (01:56:46):
Switch Lite or
the.
Mark Trobough (01:56:49):
Especially when
they're out of print.
Yeah, Especially if you havethe box and everything.
They're out of print Becausecollectors will want to spend
money on those.
Brandon Hurles (01:56:55):
Yeah, there's so
many too.
There's that Diablo Switchthat's worth $900 or something,
and the let's Go PokemonSwitches, stuff like that Stuff
that are already super expensivenow.
So, like I, just I personallywouldn't recommend doing that.
Or if you are in the boat whereyou need to sell the console to
get it, I would sell it in theaftermarket and not trade it in,
(01:57:17):
because you're going to get waymore money and it can go
towards that switch like some ofthose can pay for the switch
itself, the switch to itselfyeah, but it's one of those
things where it's like money.
Mark Trobough (01:57:27):
Some of those
people it's like, oh, don't go.
Like they complain about themoney you get.
But I'm like, yeah, but likeyou don't have to do any legwork
, especially when you train in agame like, well, it's a few
game if you can get 300 morebecause it's like the diablo
switch, like do the legwork I'msorry, you'll sell that in a
couple days 100 or 250 out ofyour100 or $250 out of your used
Switch, then sell it yourself.
(01:57:47):
They're going to offer you moneybut they're a business.
They have to turn around andresell it.
So they can't give you streeteBay market price, because if
they sold that for you they'dturn around and resell it.
They're going to make no moneyoff of it.
Brandon Hurles (01:57:58):
Yeah, so it's
one of those you, but that's
just my recommendation.
If it's a special edition andyou need to sell, I would sell
it yourself, get the extra money, but I would most of all
recommend keeping it if it's aspecial edition.
Mark Trobough (01:58:17):
If it's an
original, like I've got the I
just have a regular Switch, theoriginal version, but like yeah.
Brandon Hurles (01:58:21):
I've just got to
bring that over $125 is $125.
Mark Trobough (01:58:25):
You're saving
some money if you don't care to
keep your old consoles, comparedto having to list it.
Most people don't care aboutkeeping old consoles, so most
people don't want to go throughthe process of getting an extra
$100 out of it by doing all thework themselves, because a lot
of people are lazy, so a lot oflazy people out there like Mark.
I'm not lazy.
(01:58:46):
I'm so lazy I won don't evenwant to take it.
I won't even take it toGameStop.
Brandon Hurles (01:58:53):
Oh man, all
right.
Well, we got a left here.
Mark Trobough (01:58:57):
Obviously the,
the big stealth drop which is a
other schools, the elder schoolsfor oblivion remake which
outside of I don't care for the,the some of the, some of the
character faces, but that's moreof the of the Unreal Engine
itself.
The game absolutely looksbeautiful.
I I haven't got around to getin the game or playing it yet
(01:59:17):
because it's on Game Pass, bythe way, so don't pay for it.
I don't think I got game.
I think I stopped paying forGame Pass but it's worth it for
these two games.
Brandon Hurles (01:59:27):
Think I stopped
paying for game pass, but it's
worth it for these two gamesthat just came out this week.
Uh, playing for a month isworth it.
I mean, you got two games.
Mark Trobough (01:59:30):
You can get full
month's worth of gameplay out of
yeah, but who says like a yearlater, I want to go back and
play to it I'll.
Brandon Hurles (01:59:35):
I'm gonna end up
just buying it on steam, just
so I have the game to play itwhenever I mean claire obscures
on steam series x and ps5 aswell too, by the way yeah, I
mean both of these games I amgoing to get on Steam.
Mark Trobough (01:59:46):
I'm probably
going to have to wait until I
get next payday and stuff likethat.
Brandon Hurles (01:59:53):
Nexus mods man,
Am I right?
Mark Trobough (01:59:56):
That's one of the
main complaints.
A lot of the modders said thatthis game wasn't designed like
their other games with mods inmind.
Brandon Hurles (02:00:03):
Yeah, there's no
mods in mind.
Mark Trobough (02:00:04):
It's going to
take longer for them to get mods
out for this game because theygotta do a lot of what some
people say I'll be honest withyou.
Brandon Hurles (02:00:10):
I don't have
ability working I don't
personally want to play it withmods, I just want to play it
straightforward, the way theydesigned it, because I love the
original, just base game alreadythese games is fine but like
the longevity of popular games.
But I don't care for skyrim.
I understand the the mods did alot to it, but it's like a lot
of these games after a while youjust get.
Mark Trobough (02:00:30):
You like the game
but you kind of get bored with
the gameplay.
If I beat the game, I'm donewith it.
I don't need to keep going backand forth.
But some people like the gamebecause you can make a whole new
game with mods.
Brandon Hurles (02:00:41):
I get why people
do it.
I understand through the gameand then I'm done, that's it for
me, and then obviously, uh, itwas.
Mark Trobough (02:00:48):
I, I think, I
believe it.
I don't know if it's officialor unofficial, uh, because I
didn't have it pulled up, butessentially they was.
They were talking about the uhthe sky, oblivion skyrim, uh,
oblivion mod.
They're not going to be goingafter them to shut it down then
again, they've been working onthat for like a decade.
At this point, yeah, skyoblivion.
Brandon Hurles (02:01:04):
Actually, funny
enough, they sent out free codes
for everybody in thedevelopment team on sky
believing.
Did you see that?
Mark Trobough (02:01:11):
that is really
dope that's really cool.
Brandon Hurles (02:01:12):
They're willing
to do that.
Yeah, let's be fair.
Mark Trobough (02:01:14):
I've been
following that forever.
Like they're.
They're rebuilding oblivion inskyrim, and that's a.
That's a big feat.
Brandon Hurles (02:01:20):
It's a different
experience too, because like
this is, you know, obviously aremake, but that's like putting
oblivion in the skyrim world.
So it's like a whole differentthing.
Mark Trobough (02:01:28):
You've still got
the charm of skyrim and you got
the charm of oblivion kind of,but to be fair, like I, because
I can't remember like to be fair.
Like you can play skyrim withmods, you can.
You can make skyrim play like,uh, like you make it 4k 120,
I've seen yeah, if you got a rigthat can handle it and some of
that stuff.
But essentially the gameplay canplay fully different games and
(02:01:50):
stuff like that.
I think modding is a greatthing and stuff like that.
It sucks that this game doesn'thave it built in by default.
Brandon Hurles (02:01:56):
That's a great
question, Mr Coffee.
I think it's still available onSteam right now.
I don't see them taking theoriginal down.
I think they might havecommented on not doing that.
I could be misremembering, butI don't think they're going to
take the original down becauseit's still a different game and
a lot.
The sales jumped up 300% onOblivion before Oblivion
(02:02:19):
Remastered came out.
Mark Trobough (02:02:21):
Yeah, so as of
right now, the original Game of
the Year edition of Oblivion isstill on Steam.
Brandon Hurles (02:02:26):
I don't see them
taking it down.
There's no reason to.
Mark Trobough (02:02:28):
I don't know why
it's a different game, you know,
let's be fair most people thatare going to play this probably
already own oblivion and they'rewilling to, you know, they're
gonna, they're gonna, you know,buy the game again and stuff
like that.
Most people, most people thathaven't played oblivion, are
gonna want to, probably morethan likely, play the remake,
the remaster, than the originalversion of the game.
Brandon Hurles (02:02:47):
That's yeah,
that's just how a lot of people
go because it's.
Mark Trobough (02:02:50):
It's definitely a
step back in in quality.
It's got its charm if you grewup with it.
But like if you didn't grow upwith this game, you're probably
gonna like not like the, the oldgraphics and the old gameplay
as much I still think theoriginal game is great.
Brandon Hurles (02:03:01):
I loved it.
I had I spent so much time withthat game, but yeah, this, this
is a Stop, you violated the law.
It's cool to see, as a bigOblivion fan, to even see this
happen Now.
What I think is going to happennext, this is going to be after
the next Elder Scrolls comesout.
I think what they're going todo is, since they've got this
engine they've got thisdeveloped already in this engine
(02:03:23):
they're going to do this exactthing to Morrowind this engine.
They're going to do this exactthing to morrowind.
Mark Trobough (02:03:29):
So that's what I
see happening next, but I think
it'll come out be far more of acontentious game release.
Brandon Hurles (02:03:32):
I think it'll be
like 2030 or something like me,
maybe even a little bit later,but if they change anything
about what do you mean?
Mark Trobough (02:03:37):
contentious um,
if living is the one that would
be more contentious less peoplelike morrowind than oblivion but
I love far more vocal aboutmorrowind, especially like if
they change how the combat workpersonally, I'm a bigger
morrowind fan than I am oblivion.
I love oblivion, but morrowindis my jam and, uh, morrowind's
combat I'm, so it's like the onething I don't like about the
(02:03:59):
game man shivering aisles, bro,like just saying that's oblivion
.
Brandon Hurles (02:04:07):
I know I mixed
it up.
Mark Trobough (02:04:09):
I realized that
after I said it yeah, no, no, no
but I think Morrowind'sfantastic so.
I hope Elder Scrolls 6 isn't inthat engine, just cause I don't
care.
Brandon Hurles (02:04:21):
I hope Elder
Scrolls 6 isn't but if they did
Morrowind in the engine they'vealready built within Unreal, it
would make sense.
They've already done withinUnreal.
It would make sense.
They've already done thelegwork, why not?
But Mr Coffee said maybe theydon't need to do anything.
When the next Windows OS comesout, Will they update it to make
it run?
I don't know.
That's a Mark question.
Mark Trobough (02:04:42):
I mean, that's
the hope.
So this game, because I wasgoing to pull up this meme that
was posted on there because Ithought it was funny Technically
the all-time player high orsorry.
This is the current chart.
It's already hit 190,000.
Crazy, I think.
Two days ago the 170,000, likefor a remake or remaster, it's
(02:05:07):
really good.
This isn't what I actually wantto pull up.
Um, they pull up the right thingI feel like it would have been
better marketing if they justmarketed it as a remake, because
I didn't think this was funnyuh, the fact that a what a 15
year old game, a remake of a 15year old game, is just beating
the on just steam alone, beatingthe crap out of two games that
came out in the last six monthswhich I thought was wild.
Brandon Hurles (02:05:29):
Yeah, that's so
funny, that's hilarious.
Mark Trobough (02:05:33):
Oh my gosh.
Brandon Hurles (02:05:35):
Uh that's so
funny.
Mark Trobough (02:05:37):
I really, I
really thought that was funny.
Brandon Hurles (02:05:39):
That really is
Ubisoft.
Mark Trobough (02:05:40):
Sucks, bro, the
same I mean, they've sucked for
quite a while now.
Brandon Hurles (02:05:44):
Yeah, All right,
what else we got, mark?
Mark Trobough (02:05:47):
I guess the other
one, clear Obscure Expedition
33, has sold over 500,000 copiesso far, and this game just came
out like what?
A day ago.
Brandon Hurles (02:05:56):
Yeah it just
came out yesterday.
Mark Trobough (02:05:58):
Yeah, so I mean,
this game's probably good and
you have to keep in mind this isalso a Game Pass game, so like
a lot of people are playing itthere too.
Brandon Hurles (02:06:05):
So the fact
they're still selling this many
copies with it being on GamePass is unreal 500,000 copies
and this is this studio's veryfirst game and it's so far the
top rated game of the year.
And this will 100% be in Gameof the Year conversation.
This game is so damn good.
Mark Trobough (02:06:26):
It's made by
Sandfall Interactive.
Yeah, Sandfall Interactive.
This game is so damn good.
It's made by SandfallInteractive.
Brandon Hurles (02:06:29):
Yeah, sandfall
Interactive.
This game is just so good, man,absolutely unreal.
I love it.
I'm just a few hours into it,three hours in Freaking.
Love it, man.
It's fantastic.
You've got the adventureelement of it where you are
running around, but you've alsogot the turn-based, classical
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style of it.
But the turn-based is like somore intuitive and so more
involved than most liketurn-based games you would think
of.
Also, the characters can bereally, really OP at times.
If you counter and and Harry atthe right times, like you can
have crazy attacks.
Man, like just this game.
Man, just this game.
The design of the game, the waythe characters look really good
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.
The voice acting in the game isfantastic.
The music is beautiful.
This is a soundtrack I wouldlisten to by itself.
This is how good it is,soundtrack.
The music is so good, butpulling up on.
Mark Trobough (02:07:29):
It's doing really
good.
Brandon Hurles (02:07:29):
I want to pull
up on metacritic real quick to
show you a little bit of some ofthat with uh, with over six,
it's almost just shy like 7 000reviews on steam.
Mark Trobough (02:07:37):
It's hitting like
a 94 percent and this game, uh,
at least on steam through may1st has 10 off, so you're saving
like five dollars on steam.
It's 45 right now that's now.
Brandon Hurles (02:07:47):
That's a really
good deal for this game.
Mark Trobough (02:07:48):
That's really
good so that's for the base game
.
The deluxe edition is usually$60, but you can get it for $54
and stuff like that.
So they're like letting you getit discounted at launch so
worth it.
Brandon Hurles (02:07:59):
So here's
Metacritic, sitting at a 92
Metascore for critics and a 9.6user score.
So just some of the people here.
You got like 100 from twininfinite uh user reviews 10
hydro, uh, hydro chews.
10 rain down hammers, 10twiggly puffs.
Um yeah, xbox, it's a 93, pcit's a 90.
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Ps5, it's a 92.
I'm personally playing on PCthrough Game Pass.
But yeah, this game is justfantastic, man, I just
absolutely love it.
I know Mark will love it.
It's got the.
It's like a persona mixed withan adventure game, mixed with
just really great dialogue.
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Cut scenes are great.
Like I said, voice acting isgreat, music is great.
The traversal of the game isjust really good, very fluid.
There's a little bit ofexploration in the game as well,
so it's not like astraightforward turn-based game.
In fact, I would say this isthe most different turn-based
game I've played in a very longtime.
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It's not like a traditionalturn-based game.
It is and it isn't.
It is very Persona-esque in theturn-based, but to a higher
degree.
It's more interactive whenyou're fighting and you're doing
your moves.
If you want to land the extrastrikes, you've got to hit it at
the right time.
If you want to parry.
You've got to parry at theright time.
You've got a parry at the righttime.
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You've got a ton of magic movesyou can use.
You got straight attacks.
You've got guns like it's crazyman.
Mark Trobough (02:09:31):
It's really cool,
it's you know, what's crazy is
that these two games drop in thesame week.
Brandon Hurles (02:09:34):
I decided to
give nintendo all my money, hell
, hey, I mean they're on gamepass, bro, at least take
advantage of game pass for now.
You know, I think it's that'swhy I did it.
I was like we just spent allthis money on Nintendo like I'll
just play on game pass, I seeno problem with it.
It's like, yeah, I don't own it, but I'll buy it because I will
.
I want to buy these games on agame that is this well here's
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how I'm seeing it.
I'm playing on PC, but a gamelike this I absolutely 100% want
to own the physical for this.
There is no doubt mine.
This is probably going I mean,we aren't, we aren't even
halfway through the year, butthis is probably going to be my
game of the year, potentiallylike this is going to be in the
conversation.
For sure it's so far it's thehighest rated game of the year.
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But doom, doom, the dark agesthe game is like super highly
anticipated that I've alreadygot pre-downloaded on my pc
comes out in two weeks.
So we're getting all these likebangers, man, and like, uh, you
gotta think that's bethesda too.
That's the crazy, you say that.
Mark Trobough (02:10:33):
But I mean, like
we already know what.
What game of the year is gonnabe.
It's gta6.
Brandon Hurles (02:10:38):
I'm sorry, I
mean I say I'm saying it's gonna
be a contender.
I'm not saying it's gonna, it'sgonna win again in the year,
but it's definitely going to bein the conversation like that
game isn't for me.
Mark Trobough (02:10:46):
It could be
gameplay for it and you already
didn't know what's what's goingto win.
Brandon Hurles (02:10:49):
Game of the year
, which I find funny I'm not
saying that it's going to wingame of the year.
I said it's in the conversation.
I I not never mind this fool isputting words in my mouth.
Mark Trobough (02:10:59):
I don't like it I
didn't put words in your mouth.
I was just saying somethingelse not related to the game.
Brandon Hurles (02:11:03):
But uh, ryan
yoder, yeah, we're, we're
uploading it to youtube, doingsomething a little bit different
this week with it.
Uh, game pass great, but gamekey carts are bad.
No, you're misunderstanding me.
I'm saying that it's a.
I think game pass is the thebest value in gaming.
But for me, like when we'regetting two big drops like this,
I see no problem in paying theprice for that month to play
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these two games, especially whenwe just spent the money on the
Nintendo stuff and stillexperiencing the games and I
said I will buy the physical.
You know, so this I will get onPS five for sure.
And then if we get a physicalfor oblivion which I'm not so
sure about then I'll do that too.
But you know, regardless, likeit is something I will want to
(02:11:46):
own.
So yeah, I will, I will buy it,but it's just, it's a.
I think game pass, when we'retalking about digital services,
is absolutely the best value ingaming.
I've been saying that for years.
No, I don't love digital, butit's a great way to experience's
nice and I get to play on PC.
Mark Trobough (02:12:06):
So yeah,
Hopefully you're going to get
some.
Brandon Hurles (02:12:11):
get a chance to
play these pretty soon, so we
can actually go to Mr Coffeeover here arguing with me.
Mark Trobough (02:12:15):
I tell you you
get a Mr Coffee.
Brandon Hurles (02:12:17):
He deserves it
All right, we got anything else
for this week.
Mark Trobough (02:12:22):
Mark and all the
main stuff we talked about.
That was everything.
Brandon Hurles (02:12:25):
All right,
anyone want to go ahead and
close us out?
Mark Trobough (02:12:28):
Yeah, definitely
appreciate everyone watching
this episode.
Obviously, we're live everyFriday at 8 o'clock Eastern and
we go live at 8 every Saturdaywhen we stream.
Live stream Everywhere, samelocations, brandon streams
everywhere, except for Twitch,where I stream on Twitch what
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you mentioned it.
What game are we playingtomorrow again?
Brandon Hurles (02:12:51):
oh god, what did
I mention?
Oh, what's it called?
Oh crap, it's like the top gameon Steam or whatever schedule 1
.
I pulled the wrong location wehad like 6 people request it, so
we said we'll just go ahead andplay it.
It's a really popular game.
Mark Trobough (02:13:10):
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can reach all our social media
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I think that's all the socialmedia and stuff like that.
I don't know if I'm missinganything else that you want to
hit up.
Brandon Hurles (02:13:24):
I think that's
all Uh have we played lethal
company.
No, have not played that, butsomebody did bring that up.
Mark Trobough (02:13:30):
So I played body
cam.
That was an interesting game.
Brandon Hurles (02:13:33):
Yeah, we played
body cam last week.
He's actually really fun, LikeI did.
I had the most fun with thelast game mode that we played
that uh, it was like a 5v5.
I really, really, reallyenjoyed that.
Since we bought it, we shouldstream it again sometime here
soon, because I mean we had funwith it and Dave jumped in with
us and it was a good time.
(02:13:55):
So maybe we'll do that next weekor maybe we'll do Split Fiction
.
We'll see.
I'm not sure yet, but yeah,we'll be streaming that tomorrow
.
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