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Brandon Hurles (00:00):
I was waiting on you.
Hey, mark said he was waitingon me.
What's up everybody?
Welcome back to the GameJunction Podcast episode 115.
Sorry for making everybody wait.
We were trying to get somelast-minute promo out.
But how's your week been, mark?

Mark Trobough (00:13):
Really crappy would be the G way to say it,
not the PG-13.
Really, really, really busy, sobusy.
I didn't even get the animeJunction podcast up in time.
I'm super disappointed and youknow I was very upset.
But I told him I told him onthe positive side that uh well,

(00:33):
he wanted to get back an episodeahead, so they're probably
looking back an episode ahead.

Brandon Hurles (00:35):
So that's the one.
Uh, downside of doing like alive podcast is that you know
really can't be ahead, so it'slike if something comes up it's
sucks.

Mark Trobough (00:45):
You know what I mean which stuff comes up if
this was like on a Tuesday, it'dbe, you know, much more of a
pain.
But like on a Friday, usuallymost people, you know, don't
want to do a lot of stuff onFriday, so it's pretty easy to
not have to work later.
Yeah, random crap kind of comeup, yeah, for sure it happens,
just not that often.

Brandon Hurles (01:07):
I went shout out to GamerFreak said hey, over
there on the Twitch.
Also got Paul Jean said heyguys, hi Mark, and over on the
YouTube.

Mark Trobough (01:16):
Welcome, welcome.
I meant to ask how's it goingover there?
I know you all got a lot ofsnow and then you're getting a
few more inches.
What this weekend?

Brandon Hurles (01:22):
It's snowing right now.

Mark Trobough (01:23):
it's snowing like crazy right now it hasn't
snowed here and well, well, itsnowed like three times in the
past week.

Brandon Hurles (01:30):
But that's what we're talking like a 10 minute
dusting and that's it let's putit this way it was so bad that
got snowed in, could not get mycar out and I couldn't, didn't,
didn't want this coming to workanyway, because it was just too
bad but that's funny, because Icouldn't get out I couldn't get
out.
I I was trying for 15 minutesand I could not get out, and so

(01:50):
like I had worked from home allweek you got.

Mark Trobough (01:53):
I saw some of that stuff, uh, about my parents
at me.
I was like, oh wow, like levelthree emergency.
I'm like if that snowed here,like they'd just be like, you
know, give yourself extra timeto get to work, I'll see you
when you get in yeah yeah, no, Imean getting like uh, getting
like six inches, is not abnormalhere.

Brandon Hurles (02:11):
So yeah it was.
It was crazy, we got, we got alot, but now now what sucks is
that the roads that obviouslyyou know like parts like country
and like in town is fine andstuff like that, but some roads
don't get plowed or salted atall and then it's just turned to
straight ice.
So yeah, like where I'm at all,the roads are just straight ice

(02:33):
, and which sucks there's awe're getting snow on top of it
again, so now it's just me.
Well, actually that would be.

Mark Trobough (02:41):
If you got enough snow, like if you got a few
inches, it probably better,because then you have some
traction.
Because what they do a lot ofit, especially out here in the
mountain west a lot of them willjust, uh, they'll dump, uh, or
they use salt, but because it'ssuper cold, a lot of times it
gets below 15 and then you havelike 30, 40, 50 mile an hour
winds on top of it.
The salt's just ineffective inthose kind of conditions.
Yeah, uh, so they'll, they'lldump a lot of sand, especially

(03:05):
in town, which, uh, notnecessarily for the eye, doesn't
necessarily prevent ice, thoughsometimes it's so cold it
doesn't really snow.
Uh, and I know this is not ithas nothing to do with video
games, I don't want to talkabout this but the sand will
help with traction to somedegree.

Brandon Hurles (03:17):
So they use a lot of sand out here yeah, yeah,
no, it makes sense like uh, Ieven tried doing the, the whole
cat litter trick and everythingto get some traction there with
the tires and I couldn't do it.
It just didn't work.
I mean, I always keep a bag ofthat cheap cat litter for that
reason every winter, becauseusually it comes in handy.

Mark Trobough (03:37):
but I couldn't get out, but then the kid didn't
have school the entire week, soobviously yeah, I figured, if
you're getting like four or five, six inches, it's pretty much
shuts down.
That happened.

Brandon Hurles (03:48):
We were, you know how, ours yeah, you know
how that school is?
They, they cancel school foreverything.
So like all the way to the endof the week was canceling and
stuff and I'm like, oh my.

Mark Trobough (03:58):
God, that was of the I assume the y'all's holiday
break, so it's just a wholeextra extra week off of school
yeah, and I'm like trying towork from home, kids home.

Brandon Hurles (04:08):
This is impossible, this is not working
out on the.

Mark Trobough (04:11):
Now you're on the other side of the snow day,
we're like this is great,bugging your parents.
Now you're like, oh yeah, Iknow, we loved it back then.

Brandon Hurles (04:18):
But man, if you, if you have to end up working
from home, it'd be different ifit was just like uh, you know,
you, you, you have to be on thejob.
So like there is no like remotework possible, that'd be a
little bit different.
But they're like nope, nope,you're working remote.
So, yeah, you gotta get thatstuff.

Mark Trobough (04:34):
Back then it's like, uh, you might go out and
shovel, but it's like you getall the kids in the neighborhood
it's like, all right, we'regonna go shoveling or we're
going to play outside all day inthe snow.
So yeah, a lot of good memorieswith that.

Brandon Hurles (04:47):
And obviously not do with video games.
But anyway, it's still talkingabout the week that.
Did you see the snow angelchallenge stuff?
I did not know Okay.
So it was like must've been apretty centralized thing like
here in Ohio.
But essentially you, you thechallenges, you go outside for

(05:08):
guys, that's in your boxers.
You go out and jump in and do asnow angel real quick in the
snow and try to jump back inreal quick.
So recorded that I didn't do itin my boxers because my
daughter was the one recordingme.
So when I was still cold ashell, went out and did that and
then she went out and did Irecorded her doing it was.

(05:28):
It was hilarious, just reallyreally funny.

Mark Trobough (05:32):
Um I put it on here it's on facebook.

Brandon Hurles (05:35):
I shared on the game junction page too, just
because I thought it was sofunny, but I shared it there and
on my uh, brandon hurl'saccount on facebook.
So if you guys want to checkthat out, it's pretty hilarious.

Mark Trobough (05:47):
Yeah, over here acting like it's.
You know, 15 degrees is cold.

Brandon Hurles (05:53):
I'm thinking well, get out of here.
What are you talking about?
Tell me, when you've hopped inthe snow, when's the last time
you just laid in the snow androlled in it?

Mark Trobough (06:04):
I don't have the clothing for that anymore, bro I
don't do.
The challenge is no clothesthat's a challenge, so why would
I do it?

Brandon Hurles (06:11):
like oh, if I did that it was when it actually
we actually do get to know.
It's like okay it's four inches.

Mark Trobough (06:17):
No, I live in an apartment complex so it's
already a problem there.
And then it's like oh yeah,it's like 20 mile an hour wind,
so you got like a windshield.
That's like five degreesoutside.

Brandon Hurles (06:23):
You're gonna have like freeze to death in
like minutes I don't know, ifyou have kids, you do stupid
things.
Sometimes made her laugh so Iwas like I was worth it,
whatever you know no, 15 is notbad, but you have to add like 30
mile an hour winds on top ofthat 15.

Mark Trobough (06:47):
So you uh, we also had wind chill and you know
the snow's cold man so justjust remember uh, it's not the,
uh, it's not the heat that getsyou, it's the humidity.
I saw a meme like that.

Brandon Hurles (07:03):
I couldn't, couldn't stop myself I saw a lot
of memes where you know, Idon't hear anybody complaining
about when it's, you know 95degrees out and you know all
that stuff, and I'm thinking I,I would rather than then that's
what I say.

Mark Trobough (07:21):
I get both sides of it.
I get both the 95.
In the summer, though, it's adry heat, so it's durable.

Brandon Hurles (07:28):
Yeah, you get that dry heat.

Mark Trobough (07:30):
Then I also get that negative 10, negative 20 in
February.

Brandon Hurles (07:33):
But when you get that, 95, humid heat is
unbearable.
I think it's both.

Mark Trobough (07:38):
I've experienced 90s 100s in a dry and humid
environment and it's far worsewhen it's humid outside.

Brandon Hurles (07:44):
Yeah, way worse when it's humid outside.
Yeah, way worse when it's human, like, uh, we.
It was 108 when we went to umarizona last year, but obviously
it's dry heat, so it's just adifferent type of horrible yeah,
more harder to tell when you'redehydrated, but it's more
tolerable on the outside.

Mark Trobough (07:59):
You're not just drenched in sweat.

Brandon Hurles (08:00):
I was like I was both like kind of surprised how
hot it was um, because itdidn't well, it felt hot.
It felt hot, but it was justlike it's such a different heat
than what I'm used to.
You know what I mean, so it wasjust a way different thing.

Mark Trobough (08:14):
So then it gets down to seven.
You're like I'm cold and youput a sweatshirt on, even though
it's like 70 degrees outside,no doubt.

Brandon Hurles (08:21):
All right we'll get a dive into what we got
going on this week.
So a lot happened this week.
It's been a pretty crazy weekwith gaming and pop culture.
We threw some stuff togetherhere with the notes and there's
been a lot of stuff.

Mark Trobough (08:36):
Yeah, because you had CES just happen this past
week.

Brandon Hurles (08:39):
Yeah, ces big thing.
Obviously, I mean, if you're inthe gaming sphere at all,
there's no way that you didn'tsee at least some of the stuff
that came out just just todayalone, not not even counting the
whole week, um, but yeah,there's just been a ton of stuff
.
So we're gonna go over some ofthat.
I guess we're gonna get startedwith the, uh, the small news.

(08:59):
I thought this was pretty cool.
This is something I'm gonnagrab.
I'm pretty excited about, um,so, four years later so we knew
about this for a while I waskind of wondering.
I thought it was just ascrapped project at this point.
But, um, the my arcades, uh,super retro champ, is coming out
.
So it's a.
It's a, I say portable, it'snot like you can put it in your

(09:20):
pocket, but it is a portablesystem that plays both sega
genesis and super nintendo andit has a built-in screen.
So I'm like that's reallyreally cool because, like, first
of all, we both love SuperNintendo, I love Sega Genesis
too and I've got the EverDrive.
So like that's perfect for mebecause I can throw the
EverDrives in there and playliterally the entire catalogs
for both those systems.
There is already one of theseout that plays just nes games,

(09:45):
which I still haven't gotten yet.
I need to get it.
It's been on my list foreversince it came out to to grab,
because it's like that's, youknow, one of the better ways for
me to play.
And, yes, I like having the,the little portability if I want
to lay down or something andplay, or if I just want to have
some a little.
You know, don't want to messwith the crt or whatever, it's a
good way to play.

Mark Trobough (10:06):
I just have to say just because you said it, it
immediately popped in my headwas it Super Nintendo, sega
Genesis.
When I was dead broke, Icouldn't picture this alright,
biggie, get out of here you wishyou had a rap career you said
that and it immediately poppedin my head.

Brandon Hurles (10:24):
I wonder too that went through their head
making this.
You did a 2 in 1.
They did just an NES one ofthis, but then did a Super
Nintendo and Sega Genesis one,which is really cool for the NES
one.
They could have did MasterSystem 2, do two 8-bit consoles,
the Sega and the Nintendo, andthey didn't do that,
unfortunately.

(10:44):
I think it's pretty cool.
They're keeping it at a cheapprice point.
It was originally going to bebecause it was only supposed to
play Super Nintendo.
If I remember correctly, nowthey added on that it's going to
play Sega Genesis as well.
So it was supposed to be like$110, I think, but I think now
they're targeting at $150, whichI think it's very fair price in

(11:05):
today's market.
I think that's a super fairprice for that.
Um, now I have a portable unitlike that that plays two
different systems.
I think that's really reallycool, um so yeah, that's
something I'll get a more.

Mark Trobough (11:16):
Uh, it's got a more robust stand in the og
switch.

Brandon Hurles (11:19):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
It was like the stand, and theydid it right on this one.
I I don't know what Nintendowas thinking with that.
That switch stand, bro.
I really, really, really don't.

Mark Trobough (11:27):
They obviously weren't thinking no, they
weren't.
That's why they fixed it whenhe had the OLED model come out
Like, oh, an actual, properstand.
Yeah, the one doesn't fix theproblem with the charging port
at the bottom.

Brandon Hurles (11:40):
This which was one reason I held off on the nes
one.
I'm still going to grab it, butit uses software emulation for
this.
So it takes the rom from yourcartridge and then emulates it
on the device.
So it's not fpga, it's notplaying it directly from the
cartridge, it's just taking thatrom and then running it through

(12:00):
software and playing it.
So you're not going to havelike one-to-one accuracy.
There might be be a littlehiccup here or there in some
games.
Things like that.
Most people, 99% of peoplewon't care.
If you're a weirdo like me, Ido care about stuff like that.
I still plan on grabbing this.
I still think it's cool and Ithink the price point's a good
price point for it.
It makes sense.

Mark Trobough (12:22):
Yeah, but I guess , thinking about the talking
about the, uh, your old nintendoconsoles, uh, well, we didn't
get anything official as far aslike what we, what can?
You can expect it to look likeprice tag, anything official
other than that it's coming.
Uh, in october of 2025 we'regonna lego game boy
collaboration coming yeah, Ithought that was pretty cool.

Brandon Hurles (12:41):
I mean, they've done the nes, they've done the
atari 2600, they've done, yeah,nes, they've done the Atari 2600
, they've done.

Mark Trobough (12:46):
Yeah, you're probably looking at something
like about Xbox 360, I wouldassume.

Brandon Hurles (12:49):
Yeah, I'm guessing it's.
These are like the high-endcollectible ones, Like the NES
one.
I still didn't get Like, Istill want it.
It's just the price point waslike.
Just couldn't justify the pricepoint.
Well, Legos are expensive,Legos are an expensive brand.
But for Game Boy, even if theprice point's up there, I'll

(13:10):
make an exception, because GameBoy means a little bit more to
me than the NES does.
I love the NES.

Mark Trobough (13:15):
I actually had a Game Boy.

Brandon Hurles (13:17):
I didn't have an NES growing up, so I love the
NES, don't get me wrong, but theGame Boy, I feel like this is
going to do something special,kind of like the nes did, where
it had like the rolling tv thingand was playing um super mario
brothers like on the the tv andstuff like that.
This is probably going to dosomething unique um.
So to me, this, this appeals tome even more than the uh, the

(13:38):
nes did.
So I definitely want to grabthis.
But this was not the uhexpected nintendo news people
were wanting this week, sothat's where I saw it lumped in
it's one of those things whereit's like cool, but uh, this is
not.
This is not the uh console thatwe were waiting for it feels
like over, like the past.

Mark Trobough (13:57):
What year, like month or so.
It's like every time you getlike this is great, but like
this is not always happening.
It's and it was just.
They just keep teasing you andteasing you and teasing you.
They want to drag out thisannouncement as long as possible
because they know everyone'swaiting for it.
So every time they come out andsay something, it's like this
is cool, but it's not the onething that I want.
Announce that then you canannounce this and I'll be happy

(14:18):
with all of it.

Brandon Hurles (14:20):
But I was a little shocked to see that it's
kind of cool, though it's apretty good idea, I like it.

Mark Trobough (14:26):
I guess shocking, but not surprising, considering
that this is not the first timethey've teamed up with LEGO.

Brandon Hurles (14:31):
So hopefully you get you know for all kinds of
stuff now, because you'veobviously got the Mario, but
you've got Animal Crossing.
Now You've got obviously theydid the big Mario block.
Question block set.
Question block set.

Mark Trobough (14:42):
You know so hopefully, at least as far as
like this specific littlecollector stuff with the, with
the nes and now the game boy.
Hopefully they start gettingyou, uh, because I don't think
they've done anything else otherthan the, the nes no so you
know, eventually you get likeall the retro consoles.
So you get the 64, you get thegamecube game boy color game
like I just want all theconsoles lego, lego form I
almost bought it.

Brandon Hurles (15:01):
the only reason I didn't buy this was because it
sold out and was a good deal.
I think it's normally $150 andit went down to like $60.
But Mega Bloks did the Xbox 360.
Do you remember that they didthat last year?

Mark Trobough (15:16):
And it dropped down in price.

Brandon Hurles (15:18):
I went to go get it and it sold out.
I couldn't grab it in enoughtime.
So I was a little bummed aboutthat Because, again, I didn't
grab it in enough time.
So I was a little bummed aboutthat because again I didn't grab
that because of the price point.
I just didn't like the pricepoint but I was like 60 bucks
for that.
The novelty of it.
I love the Xbox 360.
That's really cool.
But yeah, I think it's Megaboxthat did it or one of the other

(15:38):
block companies put thattogether.
But it was really cool becauseit came with like a little mini
case for Halo and like thecontroller and everything like
it was really neat.
But yeah, and then we've got.
This is a brand new news as of,I think.
When was this?
Yesterday or the day before?

Mark Trobough (16:00):
January 8th, so it was two days ago.

Brandon Hurles (16:04):
Taki Udon on X said the world's first
affordable FPGA gaming consoleinspired by the PlayStation 1
supports PS1 games, memory cardsand controllers, analog and
digital output, nfc, wi-fi andBluetooth.
It's Mr FPGA compatible anddisk support is not pictured.

(16:26):
So there's an extra componentyou can buy to play original
disks on it too, but it is FPGAso most people aren't going to
care about playing the disksthat they play that disk the
exact same way FPGA is going toplay, the same way that disk
would play, so most peoplearen't going to care.
I will for my physical games.

(16:47):
When I get that extra, I getthat extra thing.
But this came kind of came outof nowhere, because like, when
you think of these fpga consoleslike this, you think of analog.
Really, like it's the, the onlykind of the only one that comes
to mind, because chromatic Imean mod retro did the chromatic
handheld, the game boy, gameboy, collar um.
But other than that, really allyou think about is analog.

(17:09):
I mean, you know analog, yeah,I've got the analog 3d on
pre-order that comes outsometime next couple months, the
analog pocket here, and youknow they've obviously done the
um, the mega sg and super nt andall that stuff.
So all those FPGA consoles thatplay the way the original
consoles play.
So this is kind of coming froma different.

(17:31):
This is coming from this person.
I thought this was reallyreally cool.
So this is the same companythat did the.
They made the OLED screens forthe Nintendo Switch Lite and
then also now they have the onesI think it's called the Super 7
OLED screen, whatever but it'sthe OLED screens for the

(17:54):
Nintendo Switch Lite and itstouchscreen as well, stuff like
that.
So it's like you can upgradeyour Switch and stuff.
But yeah, really really cooland stuff, um, but yeah, really
really cool.
So, like some of it says, thatcomes with uh, two ps1
controller ports, two ps1 memorycard ports, one uh yc for light

(18:15):
gun, micro sd, three usb type a, one type c for power, hdmi,
den 10 v composite Ethernet, 3.5millimeter analog audio and TOS
link digital audio.
So this has absolutelyeverything to the gills.
And this is for the founder'sedition of it.

(18:36):
For the starting price it'sgonna be 150, which is
incredibly reasonable, I know.
I think after that I don'tremember, if you put the price
out, what the standard price isgoing to be after the founders
editions of these are sold out.
I think it's 200 or 250, butthe founders editions assigned
by the whole team on the insideof the the case, which is really

(18:59):
cool.
Um, yeah, I mean, I think thisis this is really awesome news,
because, yeah, I mean, I thinkthis is really awesome news
because I have a feeling, I havea strong feeling that and I
think they still are going to doone analog is going to do like
a PS1, because they're doing the64 now and they haven't,
besides the analog duo or the,the turbo graphics CD.

(19:21):
They hadn't really messed withCD technology yet for FPGA, but
I have a strong feeling thatafter the Analog 3D, ps1 was
next.
So I still think they're goingto do that.
But I'll absolutely grab this.
I think it's really really cool.
That's a great way to be ableto experience a console.

(19:42):
Obviously, you've got literallyevery output hdmi down all the
way.
You know to composite, um, youknow fpga, anything like that.
It just screams my name.
You know.
Being able to play it.
The way that it was originallyintended to be played is really
cool.
So, so, there's no emulationinvolved and, um, I do like that

(20:06):
.
They are having the extra addon for uh, cds, actual CDs, so I
think it's pretty cool.

Mark Trobough (20:14):
I agree.
I think it's really dope.
Uh, the more we get as far aslike just keeping retro games
alive.
I just love to see it.

Brandon Hurles (20:20):
Yeah for sure.
Uh, pam to see it.
Yeah for sure.
Uh, pamela over on facebooksaid that sounds cool.
Uh, mr coffee said maybe buildone with brand parts.
All we need is just the manual.
And also said game boy is justthe ultimate nostalgia for me.
Johnny said hey guys.
Uh, mr coffee said game boylight is pretty good, runs on

(20:42):
less batteries and longer.
Yes, good stuff, for sure.

Mark Trobough (20:46):
It would be fair.
Back then you didn't care, youjust wanted that backlight.
Yeah, for sure.
I need it for the car rides.
Yeah, marvel Rivals is doingfantastic.
I guess it's like a two-parter.
Obviously, the big thing isstarting today, the 10th of
January.
Fantastic Four drops, so that'sfour new, four new characters

(21:06):
doing already massive lineup ofcharacters.
Yeah, which means and they andthey all we were talking about
before we went live a lot.
All these characters play sodifferent yeah so there's such a
different way that you couldplay these games based on.
It's not just like a reskin,but every character kind of
plays the same and feels thesame.
Outside of one unique ability,they wholesale feel different,
which I think just uh, it's fun,but it adds like a new level of

(21:27):
complexity, especially like ifyou were looking at this game
competitively, how differentcharacters play.
They're so different.

Brandon Hurles (21:33):
So it I it makes the mixing and matching better
as well as yeah, obviouslythere's certain bonuses by
playing characters that are fromthe same universe or the same I
guess sub ip I still haven'teven played every character yet,
because I've been, I've beenplaying it I mean, we played on
stream, but I I played it myselftoo quite a few times like, if
I have like 10 minutes orsomething, I'll boot up a game

(21:54):
of that, like it's just thequickest and easiest thing to
boot up to play because thematches aren't long.
Um, I still haven't playedevery character yet, but but
every character I've playedplays so entirely differently.
It's like trying to relearn thegame with each character.
So it's like I think what so?
far the character for me withwhat I've played maybe the 10

(22:17):
characters I've played with sofar is Squirrel Girl.
I've just found that the.
At first I was kind of makingfun of it because I was like,
why would you want to use aslingshot in the game like this?
But actually, like, what I dois I kind of stand in the back,
I go as far as I possibly canaway from everybody and I just

(22:40):
launch.
Just launch the acorns she'skilling.

Mark Trobough (22:43):
She's not an up in.
Yeah, she's definitely adistance player.
Somebody don't want to be upfront, she's not that.
That melee, yeah, I just likethe the feeling, because it's
you, uh, swap it out.
Obviously I'm kind of biased,like playing as uh to the the
shark character didn't know heexisted until this game.
Yeah, yeah yeah, I like him toobut, I can't figure him out.

Brandon Hurles (23:02):
I still don't know how to throw people off the
edge.
That pisses me off so bad bythe way, that's his ultimate.
Yeah, I haven't figured out howOkay it's his ultimate, so I
guess I know how to do it, but Ihaven't done it.
But that pisses me off so badwhen people do that to me.

Mark Trobough (23:17):
There's been a few times I've rebounced back,
but most, but most of the timehe came, unless he kamikazes
with all of you in the nearfuture.
Yeah, if he launches you farenough, you ain't coming back,
but there's been a few timesthat I have come back from it,
which has been cool, I do haveto say it because it came up,
because you picked Squirrel Girlas your favorite character, and
the first thing I thought ofwas the Aku meme from Samurai
Jack, where he's like with thephone extra thick.

Brandon Hurles (23:48):
That's, that's the school girl for sure.
Yeah, no, there's this real I.
You know I hatemicrotransactions, I hate all
that stuff.
But there's this really cooljapanese outfit for squirrel
girl that I've been like on thefence about because I'm like I
play this game enough.
I kind of like it.
It's cool.
It's a old school japanese skinfor um for squirrel girl, and
I'm kind of getting tired of theway she looks now.
So I've been on the fence, I'vethought about it, but it would

(24:10):
cost me like over $50.
You can't buy the exact amountthat you need for that, which is
annoying.
You can't just buy the exactamount.
You've got to buy a certainamount of tokens and then buy
another small amount of tokensto equal the tokens that you've
got to buy like a certain amountof tokens and then like, buy
another amount, a small amountof tokens, to equal the tokens
that you need.
But, um, yeah, that that's theone thing obviously I don't like

(24:33):
.
But it's free to play, so, like, I can't complain about it.

Mark Trobough (24:36):
The game's fun, I mean it, it's, it's everything
you can win from a game likethis it's and yeah, and then
because there was anotherarticle, but the numbers are
already irrelevant.
So, as of two minutes ago, thisgame hit another, you know, a
concurrent player peak record.
As of two minutes ago, thegames hit 592,881 concurrent

(24:57):
players just on steam alone.
Wow, that is crazy.
As of yeah, because as of rightnow, it's the second most
popular game behindCounter-Strike 2, which is at
$601,000.
I mean, to be fair, that gamepeaked at like $1.3 million in
the last 24 hours, but I mean,counter-strike is one of the

(25:19):
most popular games that's outthere, especially with the
competitors.
So this game is like breakingthe doors off of records.
It's like, hey, aaa, industry,this is how you make a game.
It's not that hard.

Brandon Hurles (25:33):
And obviously you know, it's not just an
English developer, it's aChinese developer, yeah.
Yeah, so it's like half andhalf right.

Mark Trobough (25:45):
Let's just say there's a all 50 concord.
Players were uh are reallysalty about this game.
Yeah, I've seen a few peopletalking about that on on youtube
and stuff like that can't saylike if concord had just made
this style of game, it wouldhave been successful.
But they, but they didn't therewas.

Brandon Hurles (26:03):
There was a lot that went wrong with Concord and
like that.
That's not to say that I didn'tplay it, so I can't say whether
it was a good or what game.

Mark Trobough (26:10):
But I'll make this claim and stand by it.
This is the probably the mostsuccessful Marvel IP since
endgame.

Brandon Hurles (26:17):
I Know, I agree with that.

Mark Trobough (26:20):
I'll stand by it.
It's just how long has it beensince Marvel was like this?
Well, what's?

Brandon Hurles (26:27):
crazy.
Is the whole Fantastic Fourthing right?
It's like a tie-in with theFantastic Four movie stuff.
So that's in the article right.

Mark Trobough (26:36):
How many good Fantastic Four movies have we
had?

Brandon Hurles (26:39):
We've had three really bad movies, but my hope
is that I hope that changes,because they're great characters
, it's a great story like.
The comics are good.
Fantastic four is a good teamof characters, but it's just
never serialized into a movie.
Well, I don't know.
I mean three, you could.
There is argument that threeattempts isn't a lot of.

(27:00):
Isn't a lot of attempts,especially when it comes to what
let's be fair to those verykind of like 20 years ago and
there's like they're very comicbooky characters, if that makes
sense like they're very workbetter in the comic book form.
They do action on the livescreen yeah, and then you have
like what, when translated overto movies, would be seen as kind

(27:23):
of maybe silly suits, but likeyou know it, they're also very
old characters, so you know.

Mark Trobough (27:30):
But to be fair, yeah, but it's worked with other
characters and I think that youlook at the to actually yeah,
but I was thinking and then itworked.
It was great you look at theold 90s X-Men animated series
where they were still on thosegoofy suits and that's a really
popular show.

Brandon Hurles (27:45):
It's not a movie , but it did well I don't think
they're goofy in in animation orin comic books.

Mark Trobough (27:50):
I think they look well, the bright yellow outfit
is kind of good, but it makessense in comic books because you
need the colors to popobviously yeah, you gotta pop
off the page, for sure.
Uh, yeah, so you can see kindof that stuff where it makes
sense in one medium but not asclearly in the other I do not
agree with that at all, mrcoffee.

Brandon Hurles (28:09):
He says you know , the first two fantastic four
still holds up.
That is a load.
If I've ever heard one that isnot hold, especially rise of the
silver surfer.
Oh my god, what a dreadfulmovie that was, holy crap.
I went to the theater and sawall four, or all three fantastic
four movies.

(28:30):
I was let down as a kid seeingthose fantastic four movies I
was so let down especiallybecause I love silver surfer.
He's such, he's such a coolcharacter like he's such a such
a big, massive character, likehe's really important.

Mark Trobough (28:46):
He's like a really important character in
the marvel universe and it's notlike they did bad with it, like
I get.
It's probably for somebody, alot of these, a lot of these
actors, it was early on in theircareer, but it's, you know, not
a bad lineup of actors.

Brandon Hurles (28:59):
Man, like that was great, like did uh, I own
gruffood.

Mark Trobough (29:02):
Jessica alba, chris evans and michael jickles
or how do you say his name?
Like these are all really goodactors role.

Brandon Hurles (29:09):
You know, as uh captain america later in the mcu
it's like well, didn't he?

Mark Trobough (29:14):
also.
Didn't he also reprise the samerole in the deadpool Wolverine
movie?
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, I love the callback.
And then obviously it's like oh, he's gone, we don't have the
budget to keep him any longer.
I do like he reprised that role.

Brandon Hurles (29:28):
There's so much funny stuff with the Marvel
movies predating MCU, becauseobviously you had the
Deadpool-Wolverine fight inX-Men Origins Wolverine, which
was funny because they latertalk about that and stuff.

Mark Trobough (29:43):
It's not even the same Deadpool.
What was?

Brandon Hurles (29:50):
Ryan Reynolds was funny because they later,
you know, talk about that andstuff.
It's not even.
It's not even the same deadpool.
It's not what was ryan reynolds?
That's the funny thing, thoughit's the same actors but in a
terrible movie.

Mark Trobough (29:55):
Yeah, like there was a horrible, um, but they're
acting the same characters again.
Yeah, the fact that it was areally bad interpretation of
deadpool, though, if you ask mebecause there's nothing like
Deadpool, they sewed his mouthshut.

Brandon Hurles (30:07):
I know, which makes no sense, being that
Deadpool's Deadpool.
But yeah, then you had Bladeand stuff, so with Ryan Reynolds
with that and you know all thatstuff.
So I always thought that waskind of funny.

Mark Trobough (30:19):
As a nostalgia movie.
It was like a 10 out of 10 forme for the Deadpool ring.
Just the amount of nostalgia,can you?

Brandon Hurles (30:24):
believe that Wesley Snipeses is coming back
those blade.
I think that's pretty coolbecause he's such a cool
character man I like what's.
His name is an actor he's donea lot of great tax evasion.

Mark Trobough (30:34):
I think I'm sorry , it's a white collar crime.
Nobody cares, it's a.
It's a victimless crime.
Who cares about the federalgovernment?
But I mean you think of blade,like you think of wesley snipes
and to be fair, and I agree withit, the modern mcu really
traces its origins back to blade.
That's like one of the earlyreal dark, gritty, uh, action

(30:55):
hero movies.
I mean you kind of had that withsome of the batman from the 70s
from the 80s, but those werealso kind of goofy in the 80s
and 90s with the Batman andstuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (31:04):
Yeah, I mean, if you think of, like, batman
Returns was a pretty dark movie.
I mean it was really dark,especially for the time it was.
You know there were some goofybits but of those Batman movies
it was the least goofy.
It was a dark movie, like darkas in.
It was like actually darkduring the movie and it was.

(31:25):
It was a dark movie like darkas in.
It was like actually darkduring the movie and it was also
, like you know, just very darkthemed it was.

Mark Trobough (31:29):
It was not made for kids and yeah, because uh,
just because I want to say theoriginal blade movie came out in
98.
Uh, grossed 70 million at theus box office, 131 worldwide, so
it was really the firstprecursor to what the modernists
use.
Like you could tell a dark,gritty comic book movie and it
be successful and with it notbeing like batman or superman or

(31:50):
I'm sorry.
Uh, batman, batman, supermanare not marvel, they're uh,
they're dc.
But it's still the same thingthat you think about comic book
movies.
It's really when you transitionfrom a goofy-ish to really
getting dark, gritty and seriouslike all the way through, even
if blade what's it?

Brandon Hurles (32:09):
blade three is kind of goofy trinity, yeah yeah
it's a little goofy, but yeah,I mean those first two blade
movies really good, very dark,just just good movies.
Man, I mean wesley snipes is ahell of an actor for one and the
portray it was just a perfectcasting for that character.
Just truly was.
It was a perfect casting.

Mark Trobough (32:30):
So like to have him come back it wasn't it
because it wasn't like rightafter this you get into the
x-men movies, you get thefantastic four movies it's hit
or miss.
Then you get iron man and stufflike that and then it starts.
Stuff starts to fall into placeafter that yeah, because x-men
was like.

Brandon Hurles (32:44):
He was kind of.
I still like the original x-men, but like if you go back first,
you go back to those three yeah, if you go back and watch they,
they don't hold up nearly aswell, but I think that I I still
.
I like x-men 2 as well againit's really just x movies.

Mark Trobough (33:01):
It's the problem if you get rid of x3 or do that
storyline better, becausethey've always struggled with
that storyline in every moviethey've done it in.
Yeah, I don't necessarily hatemost of the x movies.
It's really x3 and then uh, theuh.
The wolverine origins moviesare really the only two terrible
I'll tell you what the worstx-men and I can't.

Brandon Hurles (33:19):
It's so bad I can't even remember the title.

Mark Trobough (33:21):
It's the worst x-men movie I don't know how you
can say wolverine origins isn'tthe worst.

Brandon Hurles (33:26):
X okay the two, two worse, sorry, dark phoenix
and the new.
Oh yeah, because that's likethe mutants, the new mutants.
Nobody even knows about that.
And that was the last one.

Mark Trobough (33:35):
I've heard about that it's yeah, you're talking
in movies besides, you know,dark phoenix because it's the
same thing they did with X3 andthey just didn't do it For
whatever reason.
That storyline with what's it?
Jean is her name.
They just can't do her well.
They can't do that storylinewell.
The animated series was able todo it, but the actual movies

(33:56):
it's always done bad.
But outside of those threemovies most of them are pretty
well Granted.
Hugh Jackman really carriesthat.
Those movies to be fair.

Brandon Hurles (34:05):
For sure, he's just a really good actor.
Yeah, he is a really.
Hey shout out to lucas forcoming in here.
Thanks for hanging out, man, weappreciate it, uh.
Mr coffee said go back andre-watch him.
Compared to eternals and shanchi, the ff movies are great
comic mean, if you're comparingthem to the Eternals which was a
god-awful, horrible Marvelthing that shouldn't have ever

(34:30):
happened If you're comparing itto those, I mean, yeah, I've
re-watched them.
I've actually intentionallyre-watched them and owned them.
So I'm not saying they're theworst things in the world
because I like Fantastic Four.
I like the worst things in theworld because I like fantastic
four.
I like the property.
I just don't think they were agreat portrayal and movie no,
but I think to be fair 2015.

(34:52):
Fantastic four is justabsolutely dreadful.

Mark Trobough (34:54):
There's no redeeming quality to that I'll
say this if you're gonna measureto other movies, you need to
measure to the movies that cameout around the same time,
because you look at what threeyears later you had iron man in
2008, and it just blows it offthe door as far as just just a
movie, not even a comic bookmovie.
It's just so much better areyou talking about?

Brandon Hurles (35:11):
you look at what it came out around.

Mark Trobough (35:13):
Yeah, came out 2008.
Yeah, yeah, I think the eventhe original x movie is better
and that came like what aroundbefore it, or x-men came out way
before iron man.
X-men, yeah, x-men came out2000 right so the the first two,
yeah, because x-men 2000, x22003, I guess if you compare it
to the last stand that came outa year later, they're kind of on

(35:34):
par uh, but if you can compareit to some of the other ones,
it's it's kind of hit or miss.
I think it's better than laststand, it's better, obviously
better than origins that cameout 2009 worst of the trilogy,
if you will but this is also atime period where comic book
movies are still trying to findtheir footing, because Iron man
didn't come out until 2009, andthen the MCU itself really

(35:56):
starts taking off there that'sreally where they found their
proper footing here we are goinginto these deep dark rabbit
holes again, which is fine it'shard not to, sometimes, if you
think about it iron man wasn't.

Brandon Hurles (36:09):
He was not a big character.
He was not one.
He is now.
You think about it now and youwould.
You wouldn't think that youknow there would be no mcu
without him, realistically, butiron man as a character until
that movie came out, iron manwas not a big character.
He was not, he wasn't he.
He didn't sell comics like that.

(36:31):
He wasn't.
He wasn't a big comic seller.
Um, you know, you had like theanimated iron man series that
was super silly, where his suitwas in a briefcase.
You had like some other thingsfor iron man that would, you
know, kind of nostalgic.
But iron man itself as acharacter was not big.
It was not a big character.
So it was like kind of taking achance, like that felt like

(36:54):
they're taking a chance withthis character because in the
grand scheme of things he wasn'ta big character whatsoever.

Mark Trobough (37:01):
He truly that first movie did I remember
watching that as a kid bandtheaters?

Brandon Hurles (37:05):
that's like the my legit first experience I
never read comics, but like hewas never, he was never a big
character and like doomsday wasalways you did, did that
character a lot of justice yeah,it definitely did.
I mean it blew that characterup, became one of the biggest
marvel characters.
Now that you know, one of themost recognizable probably

(37:27):
period now, if you think aboutit.
I would say with robert downeyjr's I can't think of any anyone
that's more recognizable tolike a kid another time is that
that's another one of those.

Mark Trobough (37:38):
It's the right cast, the right casting for the
right role, and it just fitsperfectly.

Brandon Hurles (37:42):
Yeah and it was and it's also like it's also
such a cool backstory withrobert downey jr because, like
you know, he's like in and outof jail and stuff and had like
problems and stuff back in theday and and iron man, they
really took a chance because ifyou, if you go back in, I've
gone back in and done a littleresearch, watch some stuff,
things like that and like theyreally took a chance.
People did not want him forthat role.

(38:04):
Like a lot of people wereagainst him for that role.
They said did not make sense,he is not.
People were saying he was not agood guy.
Um, so like that was really hisredemption story kind of too,
because I mean entirelydifferent person than he was
back in the day.
I mean, you know, and thateverybody, you know, everybody

(38:25):
changes over time, stuff likethat but it's like it was kind
of like a redemption arc for him, like it was, you know, and he
even he even says that like onjoe rogan podcast he's talked
about that um, I'll be frozen.
Yeah, he's frozen.
Uh, all right, so we got.

(38:45):
Uh, mr coffee said correct,stanley wanted to create the
opposite of bruce wayne.
Uh, got gamer freak says hellomark.
Uh, was the x-men movies morebased off of bruce or wait,
where did we go there?
Uh, john birch, yeah, it was.
It was iron.
One still holds up.
Yeah, holds up.
Very well, I think marks backin here we got.

(39:07):
Oh, now I'm frozen, not surewhat's going on there.
Let me check, make sure.
Still good, looks like it saysI'm loading in.
Let me turn my camera on andoff real quick.
Not sure what's going on there.
Sorry guys, can you hear me?
Brandon, I can hear you now.
Yeah, not sure what.

(39:29):
Uh, what happened there?
That was really weird.

Mark Trobough (39:31):
I just, I just completely lost you.
You just froze and you'dperiodically you froze, you
froze like oh okay, discord's,discord's being you know I was
like I'm not dropping any frames, I'm like it's not the
internet's not the problem,because if my internet went to
crap, I'd drop it.

Brandon Hurles (39:47):
I didn't drop any frames either, so I don't
know what's going on.

Mark Trobough (39:49):
Yeah, it's weird but yeah, just I guess, catch up
uh but gamer freaks did uhblade rules.
Mr coffee, also wesley.
Uh, there's a legit black beltartist.
Yeah, I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't know that, yeah,yeah, he's a slave to my.
I was saying, hey, game freak,uh, oh you redeeming nothing, uh
, these.
But oh, sorry, game freak, no,that's that.

(40:10):
Stuff's uh disabled for thepodcast.
Sorry about that.
Uh, mr coffee, wasn't the x-menmovie more based on the john
burn comic story arc of x-men?
Yeah, it was dude.
Yeah, that's a question ofbrandon.
Yeah, uh, yeah, I said uh, mr,yeah, correct, sam Lee wanted to
create the opposite of BruceWayne, saved his career.

(40:30):
Iron man 1 still holds up.
Matt Long saying I got just gotback from Vegas he went to CES.

Brandon Hurles (40:40):
That's insane, I know.
I said that's one of my dreams.
I said one of my dreams to goCES and it was E3 said that's
one of my dreams,Congratulations.
I said that's one of my dreamsto go CES and it was E3.
Obviously, that's not going tohappen now, but next year I
would like to make it a goal tomaybe make it out to CES.
I would love to go out thereand do some live coverage.
It would be cool to go live outthere.

Mark Trobough (40:58):
Go live.
Reignage wants to gamble.

Brandon Hurles (41:07):
It's okay, we understand.
You know what?
Whatever, mark, mark, mark, uhdidn't even do a twitch story,
so there's that you know.

Mark Trobough (41:11):
So I have to sorry.
I was trying to try to get abunch of stuff pulled.
When we talk, for we talk x-menfor like a half hour.

Brandon Hurles (41:16):
Oh, get out of here.
We all right.
What's next topic?
I'm gonna get a story, uh thisis.

Mark Trobough (41:22):
We got a few of some small ones to be quicker to
run through uh a game I think Ineed to check out, uh infinite
nike.
Uh reported uh huge earningsduring the first month of that
game.
So in the first month of thismobile game being out, they
amassed just shy of 16 milliondollars in profits on that game.
I haven't even heard of thatgame.

Brandon Hurles (41:42):
It's a really popular game infinity, nikki, is
that what you're talking about?

Mark Trobough (41:45):
yeah, sorry, I'm sorry.

Brandon Hurles (41:46):
Yeah, that's the dress up game yeah because I,
mr coffee, I said I wanted toplay that before and then he
said really popular what?
Type of game it actually is.
I was like, oh yeah, I'm notplaying this game, like no,
thanks not playing dress up gameit's.

Mark Trobough (42:02):
It's essentially like a lot of these games.
They're gotcha games but it's,it's a really popular if they're
making six million dollars.
There's a there's too many.

Brandon Hurles (42:08):
There's an audience there for it but I mean
it might be good, like if youcheck it out and let me know,
then maybe it reminded me moreof uh, what's the other?

Mark Trobough (42:17):
uh, it's another chinese game.
Uh, I gotta pull it up withzenless zone zero.
Well, that's them, but itwasn't the exact one that.

Brandon Hurles (42:27):
I was thinking of Genshin Impact.

Mark Trobough (42:29):
Yeah, it was Genshin Impact.
It's one of those style gamesfor the most part is what I
thought it looked like on theoutside.
Yeah, but for whatever reason,those games just do super, super
well.
We did get another rumor aboutMario Kart 9, so you thought
Mario Kart 8, they were justgoing to stick with that one
forever.
There's a rumor that Mario Kart9 will be a major launch title,

(42:52):
potentially for the Switch 2,and the rumored date for this
they say March 3rd.
But I don't know.
It just doesn't feel like theSwitch 2, if they announced it
would launch that fast.
Who?

Brandon Hurles (43:03):
two months or just under two months, feels
like a very quick turnaround fora console launch uh, matt said
it was a business trip but I hadtime to walk the gaming vr hall
.
Yeah, matt.
Uh, matt's really in the vr, sowe it's okay.
It's pretty much been on hiatus.
We got to figure out how tore-pick it back up.
But we're doing a collab videoVR where I have the PSVR 2.

(43:24):
That's dope and he's got at thetime had the MetaQuest 2.
Now he has a MetaQuest 3S, butstill got the footage and
everything.
So we still at some point gotto do something with that.
But yeah, he's really into VRand does VR content, which which
is really cool.
He's got a pretty big channeland stuff.
So definitely go check him out,give him a subscribe and he's
on all platforms as well.
But he said my wife would loveit.

(43:48):
She makes me's on the Wii forhours.
That's cool.
Johnny said I miss you guys.
Hey, we miss you Hanging outwith us on the podcast and stuff
.
Glad to have you back.
We obviously weren't streamingto Facebook and he doesn't have
YouTube or Twitch, so good to beback.
That's good.

Mark Trobough (44:06):
But on top of that rumor there's also another
rumor that's going to beincorporating, they say, a
feature from F9, but essentiallythat would more or less be a
high-speed mode.
They kind of feel like theytested with the 200cc.
Potentially, is the rumor, soat the very least you could
probably expect the 200 CCpotentially is the rumor, so at
the very least you couldprobably expect the 200 CC to to
remain.
Uh.
But I mean, I could see a MarioKart game being being a

(44:27):
potential launch title for theswitch too.

Brandon Hurles (44:29):
I could too.
And it's like what, what moredo you do with Mario Kart?
Like, what would the next?

Mark Trobough (44:35):
because, like the three DS you had the gliders
you know, all I can think of isdouble, double characters,
double carts.

Brandon Hurles (44:44):
Yeah, you know, each one had like a sort of
gimmick DS had its online, youknow, had the battle mode and
had its online, I guess it comesdown to is if they wanted to do
more with the game.

Mark Trobough (44:54):
Maybe our cart eight deluxe that they have it,
just didn't have theinfrastructure to incorporate
other things in a new game.
Does that better for them?
I would like them to bring backa lot of this older stuff from
the games as well as trysomething new.
I don't, I don't, it's kind ofhard to tell, but bring back the
double dash, bring back the,the battle modes, bring back all
these other things you've hadin these past games.

Brandon Hurles (45:13):
Yeah, I wish you'd bring back the stuff
really cool, like making thecustom emblems.
The battle mode was reallyreally cool.
You're never getting customStill back to me is still my
favorite Mario cart period.

Game Junction (45:26):
I love that era, but I love the S and the DS
version.

Mark Trobough (45:30):
Those are like.
None of them are bad.

Brandon Hurles (45:32):
There isn't a bad Mario cart Like they're even
super circuit on the GBA.
I love it.
I think it's underrated.
I think people overlook itbecause it was basically just
the next evolution of the SuperNintendo Mario Kart.
It's the same.
It's sprites, it's still 2D,it's obviously 3D but it's still
sprites.
So you don't have a 3Dcharacter model.
But it was basically a betterversion of the Super Nintendo

(45:56):
Mario Kart and it just hadreally good tracks and stuff
like that.
But there's never been a badMario.

Mark Trobough (46:03):
Kart and it was just.
It had really good tracks andstuff like that.
But there's never been a badMario Kart.
If you ask me never.
Yeah, I mean, I believe MarioKart 1 and 2 really good.
I mean really really fun umeverything yeah, cause Mario
Kart the Wii has my favoritetrack, which is Maple Treeway.
I don't know why, I justabsolutely love that course.

Brandon Hurles (46:19):
I don't know if I have necessarily a favorite
track per se, because each, eachgame has a.
I mean, I don't think I have anoverall favorite track, but
there's definitely tracks thatstand out for from each game for
me, which is really cool whatthey did with the, the booster
pass and bringing so many ofthose.
You know those, those umcourses.

Mark Trobough (46:41):
That's how you keep.
That's how you keep these typesof games alive and relevant.
So many of those courses back.
That's how you keep these typesof games alive and relevant for
so long you constantly arebringing in old courses.

Brandon Hurles (46:47):
There were people that were complaining at
the time I gotta pay for this toget more courses.
Come on Any other game, youwould never complain about
another game doing that.
Your Call of Duty paying for askin, your Fortnite paying for a
skin.
Meanwhile, you're paying thischeap price for a booster pass,
getting all these courses andadditional content and a lot of

(47:08):
these courses.
I thought it was a great deal,I thought it was awesome and it
was a way to keep the game alive.

Mark Trobough (47:14):
Yeah, like to be fair.
When they're bringing these oldSNES 64 Game Boy courses to
this game, they essentially haveto rebuild those courses from
the ground up, like maybe theWii course tracks.
You could pour it over and giveit a new coat of paint.
But some of these older trackshave to have a lot of work put
into them.
So it makes sense those old DScourses.

(47:34):
You can't just one-for-onebring that course over.
It requires a lot of work.
You've got to essentially bringthe graphics up to snuff.
You've got to make sure thecourse is the right size for the
game, because courses weredifferent sizes in different
games but it fit.
What was the mechanics of thatgame?
The mechanics aren't the samethat the old DS or the old SNES
game had.
So it requires a level reworkto some degree, especially if

(47:57):
you add more, because some ofthese tracks on the on mario
kart 8 have more characters thanthey probably did on the
original.
Um, on the original, you know,console was on as well as
different carts and stuff likethat.
So I I understand it.
Plus, yeah, you know somecourse add something new to the
course and stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (48:15):
You know what I think, other than super circuit,
is definitely the mostunderrated Mario Kart hands down
, At least played probably.
But other than that, nobodytalks about Mario Kart 7, and I
thought the gliders was a prettycool mechanic.
I thought it had good courses.

Mark Trobough (48:34):
I thought the gliders were cool and it was
something different.

Brandon Hurles (48:37):
You know, 3D was actually pretty good in it.

Mark Trobough (48:38):
It was pretty good 3D.
Mario Kart 8 feels like MarioKart 7 7, just better.
I mean that's fair mario kart.

Brandon Hurles (48:45):
8 is better, I would say is better than 7.
But I thought 7 was good andand it held its own as well,
especially for the time and Ithought you know, first of all
you had the gimmick of 3d andthe 3d and it was good.
It was good, 3d wanted to playit to 3D off.
It had the glider mechanic.
You know it was a pretty goodgame.
It had good courses.

Mark Trobough (49:07):
Yeah, and then, yeah, I was right.
So the Mario Kart Super Circuithas sold the.
It's the least sold game at 5.9million copies sold.
What's it?
Mario Kart Double Dash had the6.8 and stuff like that.
And then they technically havemario kart 8 for the wii.
U is the next least popular one, but mario kart 8 deluxe for
the for the switch is sitting at, like you know, just shy of 63

(49:29):
million sales that's wild, uh,matt.

Brandon Hurles (49:32):
Matt said uh, I like playing shy guy on the ds
version.
I do too.
I like playing shy guy andyoshi.
Those are my characters for uhmar DS.

Mark Trobough (49:41):
Yoshi for everything.

Brandon Hurles (49:42):
Track and Baby Kart on Double Dash.
My family had Baby Karttournaments.
Yeah, I thought the babies werecool characters.
I always played them too.
I thought that was pretty neat,mark is the Mario.
Kart master.

Mark Trobough (49:54):
I don't know about that.
If you do want something funny,though, the estimated US dollar
revenue of the entire MarioKart IP is sitting at a little
over just over $10 billion.
I don't believe you, mark?
I'm just saying, it's in the180.

(50:15):
It's sitting just right at184.4 million copies sold across
the board for every Mario Kartgame Lies, which includes the,
which includes Home Circuit.
To be fair Lies it's right at184.4 million copies sold across
the board for every Mario Kartgame Lies, which includes Home
Circuit, to be fair.

Brandon Hurles (50:27):
Lies, would you?

Mark Trobough (50:28):
believe if I told you that the Mario Kart Live
Home Circuit sold 1.7 millioncopies.
I believe that I bought both.
I was a sucker.
I bought both of them and didnothing.
If that was any other game, itwould have sold maybe it One
time.
And more than that, it was acollector's item.

Brandon Hurles (50:44):
They were, but it's crazy that well I think I
have a I have a strong feelingthat in the future yes, they
produced a lot of those, but alot, I mean.
Most people obviously took themout and played with them and
you know you're supposed to runaround thing or something like
that yeah, you're supposed torun around with them and do
stuff with them, but I have afeeling that down the line those
are going to hold some value.

(51:05):
Especially if they're sealed orsomething like that.

Mark Trobough (51:08):
Yeah, I have a feeling they'll hold some value.
A lot of that stuff, especiallyif it's got a physical
component to it.
It's not just the game.
If you keep it in goodcondition, eventually in like 20
years it's going to hold somevalue, Especially when you get
those the the coin mechanic formario kart 7.
I forgot about that, yeah no,but I was just going to say like
, especially once you get downthe line, the kids that grew up

(51:29):
playing, say, mario kart 8 orthe home circuit.
They want to come back and theyget the nostalgia.
That's when the price for someof the stuff is gonna is gonna
go up I mean, it was a reallyneat idea and it came out.

Brandon Hurles (51:38):
It came out at a perfect time.

Mark Trobough (51:39):
It couldn't come out at a better time, you know,
during covid I mean it was the,it was the the right time, just
technologically, it was like theright time for it to come out?

Brandon Hurles (51:47):
yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (51:48):
And they finally had the the technology, not the
the affordability with thetechnology.
It came out the right time.
Like this came out around thewii era, it'd been far more
gimmicky and far more expensiveprobably yeah, for sure, for
sure, for sure.

Brandon Hurles (52:01):
All right, what do we got next?

Mark Trobough (52:04):
There's another quick one, just because I know
we played it and I have it.
The Lollipop Chainsaw Repop has.
What is it?
It just broke $200,000 in sales, which for a remake of a not
super popular IP, it's doingpretty decent.
I'm pretty sure with thatthey've made their money back
$200,000?

(52:24):
.

Brandon Hurles (52:25):
That's not too bad, because I went through
limited run games.

Mark Trobough (52:29):
Sorry, not in dollars, it's $200,000.
Sales of the copy of Cocktail.

Brandon Hurles (52:33):
Game.
I knew what you meant.
I was going to say $200,000.
I'm like whoa what they didn'tmake nothing.

Mark Trobough (52:40):
I don't know know what's the game like.
You know 50, 60 bucks and stufflike that, you can tell you
they made quite a bit of money.

Brandon Hurles (52:45):
They count that into sales for that which a lot
of people got a lot of peoplegot that collectors um yeah,
that's cool man.

Mark Trobough (52:53):
So this gets it.
You know proves there's still,you know, maybe not a massive
popular game, but you knowpeople do want to go back and
play those older games with.

Brandon Hurles (53:00):
I want to pick this up really bad, but I still
have not gotten an answer fromanybody on whether it's been
patched up, because it itlaunched very poorly, like the
game was when I played it when Iplayed it on the playstation
like a sub 10 frames at pointslike there's I never experienced
that when I, when I, when Iplayed the game, it may have had

(53:20):
.
It may have had a day one patch.
It may have got a patch whenyou played it.

Mark Trobough (53:25):
I don't know.
I played it like a month or twoafter because I was waiting for
my physical copy.

Brandon Hurles (53:28):
Yeah, it had to have been patched.

Mark Trobough (53:29):
I mean, like a lot of those other games, you
periodically have dips inperformance.
But largely I didn't havereally any problem with the game
.

Brandon Hurles (53:35):
Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure
that lollipop chainsaw on the onthe ps3 360, or at least 360
ran at a a straight 60 framesper second yeah and then I don't
know how much has been donebehind the scenes.

Mark Trobough (53:49):
To be fair, this is probably more of a port than
a native to this console andstuff like that, so you're not
dealing with the same hardware,this game was.

Brandon Hurles (53:56):
This is not for this straight remaster, isn't it
I?

Mark Trobough (54:00):
I'm not sure.
But you're still dealing withand I don't know the technology,
but you're still dealing with agame that was coded for a
different era of hardware andyou're making it try to work on
newer hardware.
So just by default, you'regoing to run into issues.
If this game was built from theground up for the PS4, PS5, it
should run fine.
But you're dealing with a gamethat was designed for wholesale

(54:23):
different hardware.
And they're probably they.
They didn't rebuild the game,they they took what was already
there.

Brandon Hurles (54:29):
According to this article, they're saying
this lies somewhere between aremaster and a remake, because
they did it.

Mark Trobough (54:36):
It's still largely look and feels, yeah,
that you can still tell it's.
It's a game that was made, youknow, 10, 15 years ago or like
10 years.
You can still tell it's a gamethat was made 10, 15 years ago
or like 10 years ago and broughtover Because it was rebuilt
from the ground up.
It would look and play notexactly the same like it did.
It feels like I'm playing a360-era game.

Brandon Hurles (54:53):
Yeah, well, we did get a really cool
announcement today House of Dead2 is getting a remake, which is
really freaking cool.
Man, um, I'm really excitedabout this.
I retweeted this earlier today.
I was like, yeah, this is theannouncement I wanted to see
today, because this, uh, this ipdoes not get enough love.
Yes, we got.

Mark Trobough (55:12):
I've never heard about it before today.

Brandon Hurles (55:14):
So you ever played in the arcades?

Mark Trobough (55:17):
we never had arcades growing up for the most
part every pumpkin show the fairI never, I never played arcades
there.

Brandon Hurles (55:21):
Oh, for the most part, I never did Every pumpkin
show the fair.

Mark Trobough (55:22):
I never.
I never played arcades there.

Brandon Hurles (55:24):
Oh my God, I that was the first thing I did.
I spent, like most of my timethere Played.
I played in beat time crisisone and two in the arcade.

Mark Trobough (55:32):
To be fair, largely we were growing up,
arcades were seen as like a, adead and dying thing Magic
Mountain um you none of that,are you serious?
Oh, for Magic Mountain.
But you're playing games for,for those little tickets to get
prizes yeah, but there was stillarcade games.

Brandon Hurles (55:47):
I grew up playing arcade like.

Mark Trobough (55:48):
You play like the uh, you play the, you play the
Mario one, or you play like theuh.

Brandon Hurles (55:53):
CC's Pizza back in the day had Mario, the Mario
Kart arcade game and had um theJurassic Jurassic Park shooting
game.
I can't remember what that wascalled specifically, but uh, um,
also had.
Do you remember carnival?
Do you remember that arcade?

Mark Trobough (56:10):
game it was a carnival evil like, yeah, sorry,
the other one I was thinking of.
It was the, the arcade versionof hydro thunder that I used to
play on the 64 they had thearcade version of that did you?
That was more of a oh, I havethis game I want to play on the
64.
They had the arcade version ofthat.
That was more of a oh, I havethis game.
I want to play it on the arcade.
Did you know?

Brandon Hurles (56:23):
that they have because I've actually played it.
I went to a really cool arcadelast year in Arizona.
They made an arcade version ofCrazy Taxi, the stand-up arcade
unit of Crazy Taxi.

Mark Trobough (56:36):
Yeah, I didn't know about that, never played it
, but I knew it existed.
Really, really cool.
Here's another thing, because Idon't know how many people
played hydra thunder back on theday dude, so good, oh, I didn't
.
Oh, I guess there there was a a360 arcade version of the game.
I want that.
I would like an actual remakeor remaster that game to come to
modern consoles what it's asimple game.

Brandon Hurles (56:56):
Yeah, I mean it was a challenging game, at least
on the 64 it was it was likeprime childhood what was really
cool about Hydro Thunder wasthat it really especially the 64
and the Gamecube the watermechanics were insane for the
time the water mechanics werejust so crazy, like mind blowing

(57:18):
that game had a level of skillbecause there's like a lot of
shortcuts that realistically youneed to hit if you want to like
, win a lot of those races

Mark Trobough (57:25):
but those shortcuts required some amount
of skill to hit, skill andtiming, like it was that they
get.
Games still required a decentamount of skill to to win and
beat and stuff like that,because they're also also like
it was back in there where theyhave like hidden courses so
you'd have to do so well tounlock hidden tracks, which were
, which was like reallychallenging finding.

Brandon Hurles (57:43):
It was back in there where they have like
hidden courses so you'd have todo so well to unlock hidden
tracks, which were, which waslike really challenging finding.
It was like unlocking,unlocking the content, stuff
like that.

Mark Trobough (57:48):
It's not just given to you.
You have to like, do well atthe game to get these unique
courses.
But those car, those coursesare very, very difficult.

Brandon Hurles (57:55):
Well, I just want to say, um, I truly
appreciate everybody watching.
We are at our peak number thatwe've ever had, ever at 179
people.

Mark Trobough (58:05):
So thank you all so much for.

Brandon Hurles (58:08):
Yeah, never thought the the restream stuff
before didn't do so well, but itseems like maybe you know, it's
come back around and stuff likethat.
So we appreciate everybodywatching.
I did just want to shouteverybody out Cause it helps out
a lot.
All that watch time means a lotto these platforms so we really
appreciate it.
Matt long said I played thecrazy taxi arcade version.

(58:28):
Mr Coffee said I miss arcadestyle on real shooters with a
light gun.
It's not the same using acontroller.
I agree, I have my brother.
So my brother lived in Australia.
He met a woman a few years ago.
He was in the military and thenwhen he finished up his time at
the military he met a womanonline in Australia.

(58:50):
So he ended up moving there fora few years.
He sent me back this crazylight gun that works for the
Sega Saturn and works for thePS1.
It has a cord for both.
It's nicely made, Just some nobrand that I've heard of before,
but really really cool.
So I have a Dreamcast light gun.

(59:14):
I've got, obviously, the NESZapper, I've got the Zapper for
the Atari XE, I've got theZapper for the Sega Master
System.
So I love my light gun games.
I think they're a lot of fun,especially you play stuff like
time crisis, especially timecrisis too.
I mean I just think it's aclassic.
And then, um, house of the deadone and two are just absolute

(59:35):
classics, if you ask me.
But like there were so manygood light gun games on the wii
that people don't talk aboutboth of the resident evil games
for the wii, they're both manygood light gun games on the Wii
that people don't talk aboutBoth of the Resident Evil games
for the Wii.
They were both on-rail lightgun games.
They were really really, reallygood.
Then obviously you had the.
Basically it was almost like ademo game, but it was still a
game like Link's CrossbowTraining that came with the Wii

(59:55):
Zapper.
That was fun too For the timereally really fun.

Mark Trobough (01:00:02):
Yeah, I would agree.
We got some interesting newsand this is I thought this was
really, really interesting andyou ask people 10, 15 years ago,
they'd say this has a 0% chance, it would never happen.
It's being rumored that boththe Master Chief Collection and
Microsoft Flight Simulator 24are reportedly in the works to
come to the PS5 and the Switch 2sometime in 2025.

(01:00:26):
Wow, all right, which, ifthat's like you're talking,
flight Simulator, that's onething, but Halo coming to both a
Nintendo and a Sony console.
So If that's true, that wouldbe insane.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:43):
Halo was supposed to come to the DS back
in the day.
I don't know if you know aboutthat.
It also came to the Atari 2600.
It's called Halo 2600.
It's a rare, expensive.
It's like an unofficialofficial game, if that makes any
sense at all.
But no, it would be crazy makes.

(01:01:04):
I think it makes sense now.
I think it makes sense now,like I I do.
I think we're going to talklater about one of our big news,
so maybe it might not make asmuch sense as it could,
depending on where xbox is going, which we'll be talking about a
little bit later, but itdoesn't surprise me at all.

(01:01:26):
You know, I mean, I I love xboxas a brand, but they, they
haven't um dug their heels intothe console like they just have
not, it just feel like theydon't care anymore.
Yeah, they, they don't.
It doesn't feel like they lovetheir hardware like that, like

(01:01:47):
it doesn't feel like they are.
They've been essentially italmost feels like a sega
situation, where it's like welove our ips but we don't care
about hardware.

Mark Trobough (01:01:56):
I mean because this is what the second console,
the second generation, they'velost to the Sony and I'm pretty
sure they've also, I'm prettysure they've also lost to the,
to the Switch, how well theSwitch is selling.
They've lost.
So they like with this currentgeneration, they're pretty much
in third, third of three betweenSony and Nintendo, because

(01:02:18):
Nintendo is pretty much on paceto the Switch to be the best
selling console of all timeUntil Sony comes out with
another 50,000 console sales outof their butt.

Brandon Hurles (01:02:28):
Yeah, I think that Nintendo competes with
nobody, if you ask me.

Game Junction (01:02:36):
I feel like they're going to be the only one
that keeps physical media alive, I mean the PS6 is not going to
.

Brandon Hurles (01:02:42):
But let's be fair nintendo survives off their
ips, but they don't they, they,they have zero interest of ever
porting their ips to anythingelse but I will say this, I I
will say in defense of nintendoI think, because you think back
to gamecube and you think backto even, I mean like, even the
wii, like, even though you thinkabout how different games were

(01:03:07):
for the wii, it still got thethird star, the, the third party
support, like it was there.

Mark Trobough (01:03:13):
Yeah, the call of because it was a really popular
console, even you know, becausedifferent games, but they were
there at least Because it's kindof like what you saw with the
Switch.
You had high sales, so therewere people there, so there was
a financial incentive to makethose games.
Obviously, game developmentschanged back in the day and the
hardware limitations of theSwitch aren't the same hardware

(01:03:34):
limitations that the Wii had.
Comparatively, yeah.
But I mean usually, when youhave a console that sells
extremely well, regardless ofwhether or not you like
developing for it, you're goingto because there's such a
massive install base.

Brandon Hurles (01:03:47):
It just makes sense financially yeah, I, I
don't know it's, it's.
It's a tough one to say becauseI've I've done videos on kind
of like the demise of xbox andreally where my kind of head was
because I don't want xbox as aconsole manufacturer to to leave

(01:04:07):
the console market, because you, if you ask me like we talked
about before.
This was something completelydifferent.
Competition is good.
Nintendo competes with nobody,if you ask me.
So if, if Xbox is not there tocompete with PlayStation, who
competes with PlayStation?

Mark Trobough (01:04:23):
Because most people that have it, they'll
have a PlayStation, they'll havea Switch and they'll probably
have a PC and stuff like that.
It'll have a PC and a Switch,or it'll have a PlayStation and
a Switch, because, to be fair.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:39):
The Switch is far cheaper, but it's usually
like either you got a.

Mark Trobough (01:04:46):
PS, ps5 and a switch, or you got a pc and a
switch.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:47):
Yeah, I don't know many people like us that
have a pc have the consoles.
Well, you know, because we'reinto it deep right, like we're
into it, yeah, but like let's be.

Mark Trobough (01:04:55):
Let's be fair.
You've seen it from first, frommicrosoft, the Game Pass coming
to PC, and now, with Sony,their first party IPs are
eventually coming to PC.
They might not be playable whenthey come out, but they're
bringing their IPs to PC.
So what's the point of havingthose consoles if you want to
play on PC anyways?
The only games that aren'tgoing to come to PC are the
Switch.
So what are you going to have?

(01:05:16):
You're going to have a PC toplay your Sony and your
Microsoft first party games andthen to play your Sony and your
Microsoft first-party games, andthen you just have a Switch for
Nintendo games and because it'shandheld, portable though that
market's starting to change,nintendo will still be able to
compete because they make reallygood, beloved IPs which is
what's going to keep them alive.

Brandon Hurles (01:05:32):
Their IPs definitely keep them alive.
I will say that I think thatthe third-party situation
because Nintendo is very awareof the third-party situation
with the switch one I mean,they're aware of everything they
.
It's not like they launchedlike and 20 when the console
launched, it was alreadylaunching with underpowered

(01:05:53):
hardware, like it was outdatedhardware when it launched, but
it was the it was.

Game Junction (01:05:58):
It was the trade-off for the handheld yeah,
it was true, it was.

Brandon Hurles (01:06:04):
Look, it was an evolution, right.
So we had the wii u.
The wii u was a test for theswitch and I think the switch
was a test for the switch toreally realistically I think now
the advancements are so bigthat I I do feel like third
parties are going to, becausesquare enix is hinted at, like
all the final fantasies comingover to switch and xbox, I mean,

(01:06:24):
like that tells you like let'sbe final fantasy 7 rebirth can
come to switch too.
That's a pretty big deal.

Mark Trobough (01:06:32):
Well, because there's two big things.
One, nintendo's always been inthe handheld market and they've
always dominated it.
Well, so the handheld market'snot new to them.
But also, since the switch cameout, you've had the steam deck.
You have, like the, the asus,raw galley.
Yeah.
So the, the, the more advancedtechnology.
You know it's more well known.
You know what you're dealingwith.
Uh, well, yeah, you might haveto charge more for higher end

(01:06:53):
technology, that that technologyis slowly becoming cheaper,
more accessible, so you can beefup it without becoming like
$800-$900 like it doesn'tnecessarily need to.
X is $700, you know the hardwareto hardware specs might not
compete with those, but it'll begood enough for Nintendo IPs

(01:07:13):
and it'll be good enough to havesome level of third party
support.
Willing to bring a version oftheir game over if it's slightly
downgraded?
Yeah, as well as you'rebringing in AI support.
Willing to to bring a versionof their game over if it's
slightly downgraded?
Yeah, as well as you'rebringing it.
Ai, you have the.

Brandon Hurles (01:07:24):
It's not necessarily well, nvidia has
dlss, but you have the, the, theupscaling technology, which
definitely helps more of the uhit's gonna be a big help, I
think, actual consoles, I thinkit's gonna be a big help on the
third party side, especiallybecause it's yeah, it's gonna
give those third's, going togive those companies a way to
make these games work on theswitch to and work well, because

(01:07:46):
we don't want a bunch of crap,ports, right, but but it also
means even with upscaling youstill need to properly optimize
your game, so the upscalingactually improves the
performance.
Yeah, I've seen people talkabout it.

Mark Trobough (01:07:58):
It's growing, but you know some of these
developers lean on the DLSS tothe point where it's just like
it's not properly ported.
But you're hoping that fixesthe problem and it doesn't.
So you have a poorly optimizedgame.

Brandon Hurles (01:08:09):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's pretty crazy.
Mr Coffee said the only majorcompetitor is download speeds.
Hey, I don't know.
Man know man, let me check.
Right now I got a button on mystream deck for testing my a lot
of that comes down to just whatyour?
What your?

Mark Trobough (01:08:23):
router is, but I feel confident that switch to
dock is going to have a uh yeah,I mean it's got to.

Brandon Hurles (01:08:31):
I think I think it has to because you're you're
going to be running.
I think they're going to leanmore into the um.
Uh, my download is 910, myupload is 920, so pretty good.
I think that they're going tolean a lot more heavier into the
online aspects of Switch 2being.

(01:08:53):
You know, I think they want toget more into really like the
console space, if that makessense, like they want to.
They don't want to compete butthey want to be a competitor if
that makes any sense at all.

Mark Trobough (01:09:08):
They just need to be competent.
Let's be fair the onlinemultiplayer was the only major
drawback, like voice chat onyour phone.
Yeah, you had to use thatbecause let's be fair, the
hardware was just toounderpowered for what they
wanted to do.
They had to use somethingbecause, like, let's be fair,
the hardware was just toounderpowered for what they want
to do, they had to use somethinglike, oh sorry, something like
that.
So that's like the only majorthing they really need to fix.
As far as the actual hardwareitself, yeah, I, even if it

(01:09:32):
still requires, like a bluetoothconnection, as long as it
connects to the console.
You know, that makes more sensebecause I mean to be fair, uh,
microsoft and Sony essentiallyhave Bluetooth headphones.
What's crazy is that?

Brandon Hurles (01:09:45):
the DS and the Wii U had had freaking
microphones built into thesystem.

Mark Trobough (01:09:53):
I mean to be fair .
They were like low qualitymicrophones.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:55):
They were really low quality, but I was chatting
a Metroid prime hunters on my D.
I eventually bought the littleheads.
I've still got it now sealed,just as a memento, I guess.
But um, the one one-sided uhheadset, ds chat headset I had.
I also use it for we becausethey made a we variant of it.
It's the same exact thing.
Yeah, just we packaging, um,but then they did the we.

(01:10:20):
It was like a Wii I forget whatthey called it, but it was for
Animal Crossing City Folkspecifically, but it worked for
other games too, where it wasjust a.
This technology is stupidbecause when you think about the
reverb coming back from your TVbut basically it was a
microphone that you set next toyour TV to talk to your friends
and Animal Crossing city folkbut you're getting all that

(01:10:44):
feedback from your TV's noise.
So it was just a bunch ofechoing over and over and over.
It was really bad.
It was rough.
I still have one of those justto have it.
But Matt Long said I got my waya Stream Deck for Christmas.
Yeah, I won this in a giveawayStream Deck XL and it is.
I have not had the chance toset everything up on it yet, but

(01:11:07):
it's going to end up being anabsolute game changer for
streaming and the podcast.
So I've got a few things on itnow, but it's going to be even
editing.
Like there's editing tools thatyou can map for each screen for
editing, so it's really reallycool.
Yeah, just want to give editingtools that you can map for each
screen for editing.

Mark Trobough (01:11:23):
So it's really really cool.
Yeah, just want to give a quicklittle shout out for the Prime
games for January.
So, as of right now, if you'vegot Prime, eastern Exorcist and
the Bridge are on the Epyx GameStore, bioshock 2 Remastered you
can get the GOG code for that.
Spiritmancer Amazon Games appand Skydrift Infinity is on the
Epic Games Store so you can getthose games now if you've got

(01:11:43):
Prime Gaming.
Just wanted to give that aquick little shout-out.

Brandon Hurles (01:11:47):
Yeah, I'm always down for free games.

Mark Trobough (01:11:50):
Yeah, most people have Amazon Prime, so yeah, why
not claim?

Brandon Hurles (01:11:54):
I claim every one of them.

Mark Trobough (01:11:56):
Always have I think it's free game, why not?

Brandon Hurles (01:11:58):
Yeah, why not Unless?

Mark Trobough (01:12:00):
it's on Epic Game Store, then we don't touch that
devil.
I still claim those Steam allthe way, unfortunately the only
one that's major Bioshock.
I already have on Steam, so Ibought that years ago.

Brandon Hurles (01:12:15):
Yeah, All right.
What do we got next, Mark?

Mark Trobough (01:12:21):
I'm going to share this back out here.
We've got some pocket tcg news.
You know the biggest uh gamethat we've been playing on our
mobile phones, uh, so pocket tc,uh, pokemon tcg, pocket uh has
generated over 400 milliondollars in revenue, uh, since it
released two months ago, whichis insane.
That is so the game is insanelypopular and if you watch people

(01:12:43):
, especially some, some poketubers there are people that
drop several hundred dollars onthis game to open packs, to like
get every single card and stufflike that as well, as there's a
lot of, there's a lot of peoplethat stream them, just uh
playing the uh the pokemon card,the actual uh competitive
version of this game, yeah,which is like a simplified
version of the actual card game,but it's probably the first

(01:13:05):
time a lot of people haveactually played the trading card
game to to any degree.

Brandon Hurles (01:13:08):
Really, yeah, it's like a simplified version,
but like, not like stupidlysimplified, like.
You know what I mean.
It works for like quick bursts.
It's a mobile game so likepeople want to play it on their
breaks and like play, you know,because you can actually there.

Mark Trobough (01:13:23):
There's another, a desktop and a mobile app for
the actual their actual mobileversion of it, where when you
open packs you have like qr codeto open packs within the game.
You can play that as well.
But this feels like a probablyfor a lot of people, a a real
entry point to the actualtrading card game, probably
since the, since the og tradingcard game on the on the game boy
really, because, let's be fair,a lot of people that might

(01:13:45):
actually buy the physical cardsprobably don't play the game
like me.
You just buy them to collectthem yeah, put them in, try to
see what you have and stuff likethat.
And you've got extras.
You know you either get rid ofthem or trade them or something
like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:13:57):
But a lot of people don't I mean that buy
these cards don't actually playthe game I barely even play the
game on tcg pocket I.
I've played through most of thelike.
I try to do all the events thatpop up to get those cards and
stuff um, but playing againstreal people.
I probably played like 10 timesagainst real people.
I've done, I've probably got.

Mark Trobough (01:14:16):
I think I've around 20, 25 or something like
that.
It's not not a whole lot.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:21):
Yeah, I don't have a lot.
I'm more into it just for thecollecting factor.
I just think it's fun to pullthe cards, see what you get
every day, but it's insane.

Mark Trobough (01:14:28):
This game has already probably paid for itself
100 times over.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:32):
Oh for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:14:35):
At this rate, even if it starts to wean back a
little bit, this game wouldn'tsurprise me if it breaks a
billion dollars in its firstyear running.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:41):
You gotta think how big the gotcha mechanic is
right and well, it's on top ofthe gotcha and and pokemon.

Mark Trobough (01:14:48):
It's just a really really popular money on
this game.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:51):
You know they're spending loads of money on this
game, like there's I mean justthe genetic apex, just in the
base set.

Mark Trobough (01:14:57):
It's like 226 cards for the base set alone,
like there's.
They're as big as actual cardsets pretty much, maybe not like
reverse hollows and stuff likethat, but just the base cards,
you know it's.
You know, if you wanted to likefully complete an actual deck
in these games, you, you almostcertainly have to spend real,
real world money on this gameyeah, for sure, I think it's

(01:15:21):
really cool.

Brandon Hurles (01:15:21):
I I've enjoyed it.
I I didn't think I'd enjoy itas much as I have.
Um, yeah, but you know I wasn'texpecting much, because they
already had a pokemon tradingcard game app and people were
like, why are they?
Why are they making a new one?
Like what, what's the point?
But I get it.
It's a more simplified, easierversion, gotcha version the

(01:15:42):
other game, the other one, yeahscan the cards.
It's from physical, all it isis.

Mark Trobough (01:15:46):
It's just a pure.
You're just there to play thegame competitively against other
people.
That's all that that app andgame is for is a digital version
of the trading card game.
That's it.
You're playing against otherpeople.
Yeah, this one actually has youopening cards.
You don't have to spend moneyto get those yeah, uh, also
because there's been rumorsaround, uh, you know, a mass

(01:16:07):
effect uh tv series.
I'm pretty sure they've alreadykind of talked about it being
in the works.
Uh, the voice actress for the uhfemale, uh femme shepherd, the
female shepherd, uh, jenniferhale, has come out essentially
wanting to to play the role of afemale shepherd in the actual
series.
It's essentially come out.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:26):
Blah.

Mark Trobough (01:16:27):
Or essentially, she wants, like a lot of the
original cast, that voice act, alot of these characters to
essentially be in the TV serieswhere, if you're a fan of the
games and you want to hear thesame, you know the same voices
from the games.
This would be like a kind oflike a no brainbrainer, though.
Would they actually pull thetrigger on this?
I don't think they would,outside of probably like a some

(01:16:48):
of the leads, but it'd be.
It would be neat to bring backall the og voice actors for the,
for the trilogy, andessentially cast them for for
the role that they've played.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:57):
Yeah, yeah, it would be.
Uh, I I don't know how I feelabout it exactly.
I'm not sure how to feel likemass effect 3 rubbed me wrong
there at the end.

Mark Trobough (01:17:11):
Um, mass andromeda was a joke, um but if
you look at the original trojan,we still don't know what
they're going to do.
But we do know um amazon andMGM studio.
Amazon owns MGM studios, butMGM studios is the actual studio
essentially working on this, uh, on this project.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, we've seenit before.
This is either going to doreally well or it's going to

(01:17:33):
absolutely bomb.
You've seen it recently when itdone well.
When it done well, these showsdo amazing, but if it doesn't
live up to the, to the coreaudience, of the ip it's, it's
just gonna absolutely tank.

Brandon Hurles (01:17:45):
Yeah, yeah, I'd be interested to see what it
does.
I mean, it seems to be therefor a while.
Video game movies andadaptations had a real good run.
Now there's been like there'sbeen a few misses and stuff like
that.
Like there's been more midmovies uh like, for instance,
like uncharted not a bad movie,but not like a great movie
either.

Mark Trobough (01:18:05):
Uh, it was, I think, a lot of these for what
it was, but like considering forwhat the games are there.
There's heavy story driven andoh, it's a.
It's a video game, so there's.
You know it takes like 20, 30hours.
A tv series fits far betterthan a movie for a lot of these
games, especially the the storyheavy ones, because, let's be
fair, if you want to do anyjustice to the characters in the
story, you need more than twohours to tell any decent story I

(01:18:27):
mean, like last of us did thetv show right, um, very
successful.

Brandon Hurles (01:18:32):
So I mean I feel like they're like okay, I this
did really well.
What, what else can we grabfrom what?
What?
And mass effect could do well,like you know, the whole space
thing, it's, it's popular enoughthat, like it would make sense
for for that to work, like starwars is, is garbage right now,

(01:18:52):
if you ask me.
So bring in mass effect, makeit good, make it like a big old
franchise and you, you just needto do it, right.

Mark Trobough (01:18:59):
Yeah, the one thing that's up in the air, and
oh, you get a lot of hit or misswith hollywood.
As far as the writing goes yeah, no doubt you definitely do.

Brandon Hurles (01:19:07):
You definitely do.
Uh, patrick said the lasthandheld I owned was the atari
links.
Wish it had better battery life.
The games are cool.
I've got an atari links it'sover here.
Um, I actually have.
I've got the adapter for myanalog pocket.
Right now I've got the uh turboeverdrive pro in there with the
, the adapter in my analogpocket, but I have the atari

(01:19:27):
links.
Um, uh, not ever drive, theatari links game drive and then
the adapter as well.

Mark Trobough (01:19:34):
So I love the atari links big fan uh, for
another game that's coming outnext year, borderlands 4,.
We've gotten essentially twothings that they've told us, the
smaller oh my god, I'm gonnasmack you the smaller of the two
things.
This is from the lead writer,sam Winker.

(01:19:55):
Essentially, he says there's adecrease in toilet humor from
Borderlands 3 to Borderlands 4.

Brandon Hurles (01:20:01):
You say Sam Tinker.

Mark Trobough (01:20:03):
Sam Winkler, I didn't say Tinker.
There's no T in his name.
There's a last name.

Game Junction (01:20:09):
Winkler might be worse than Tinker To be fair if
you.

Mark Trobough (01:20:12):
I'll say this To be fair if you play these games,
the problem with Borderlands 3is it felt like they were
forcing jokes just all over theplace, like they were getting
paid by the number of jokesthey're writing.
If you play Borderlands 2, thejokes are there, the toilet
humor is there, but it's farmore naturally written in and
it's not like constantly in yourface.
You know there's room tobreathe between some of the

(01:20:32):
jokes and the humor in that game.
Yeah.
It's a huge problem forBorderlands 4, but the other one
that was also confirmed is andI feel like this is the only
game that's still doing it theydid confirm you're still getting
split-screen co-op forBorderlands 4.
I mean that's good, which isessentially a staple of the
series from the original game.

Brandon Hurles (01:20:49):
Yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:20:50):
I mean, most people probably aren't going to
play this game on couch co-op,but the fact that it's there,
people will use it.

Brandon Hurles (01:21:04):
It's like an impossible thing for them to
implement.
It takes me back to the time ofyou coming over my first time
playing borderlands you cameover to my apartment, brought
over your ps4 um and playedborderland and then you left and
you just left in the middle ofthe night like what.
I thought you were staying um,but no, I remember that that was
my kind of introduction to theseries and played it then and I

(01:21:26):
mean I love 1 and 2, have loved1 and 2 ever since.
I always say I think the combatfor 3 is the best.
I just think it's the storythat's weak.
But I think, if you go in, justto play for gameplay 3, you
can't go wrong with 3 forgameplay.
I mean the story at it's not,and again Borderlands 3, if you
go in just to play for gameplaythree you can't go wrong with
three for game.
I mean the story at it's not.

Mark Trobough (01:21:43):
And again, most of the story is not bad but
there's horrible either.

Brandon Hurles (01:21:47):
It's not like I can't play this type level of
stuff, but it's not the villains, and it's the, the, especially
the way the game ends.

Mark Trobough (01:21:54):
I didn't wasn't the biggest fan of, but it's
it's really the.
The worst part was the was thevillains.
It's it's.
It's patchy as far as thewriting goes between.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:03):
It's patched between good and bad and stuff
like that yeah I will say I willsay this and I haven't even
picked it up yet I I plan ongetting on ps5 at some point,
physically, uh, to play, becauseI need to play it.
But I haven't played tiny teenyyet, so I can't really speak on
that.
But I've heard, like, um, I'veheard good things and I've heard
mixed things.
I haven't really heard badthings per se.

(01:22:24):
I've just heard that it's afine game.
Basically, overall, I've heardit's a good game.
It kind of takes a lot of thestuff from Borderlands 2 and the
combat and stuff like that.

Mark Trobough (01:22:41):
We just need better writing than what new
tales gave us, because god, thatwas terrible, yeah, but we do
have a an announcement date forthe xbox developer direct.
That's going to be comingjanuary 23rd um don't know how
close of the week of that.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:57):
Is that because I?

Mark Trobough (01:22:58):
was going to ask if you'd want to.
That is a thursday as athursday.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:01):
What time is it?

Mark Trobough (01:23:03):
we have the day.
I don't know if we actuallyhave a time, we just I think
they just gave us the day ofthis, all right, so it's january
23rd, 10 am, pacific time,which is a impossibility for me
because I'll be at work.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:15):
Yeah, 10, a pacific that covered the last,
that of them live, so I wouldlike to, if I can plan around it
, yeah cause, that's one P&E.
I don't know it's so.
I can't know until it's alittle bit closer.
But I would like to cover itlive.
You know it would be cool.

(01:23:36):
I've covered the last ones live.
I was blown away by the lastevent cause we got like a whole
timeline map of all the stuffthat xbox had planned, um.
So I imagine here's what Ithink.
I think that we see somethinghardware related.
I'm not saying we're seeing thesuccessor to the series x, but

(01:23:57):
I think that we see somethinghardware related, as in the Xbox
handheld.
I have a feeling.

Mark Trobough (01:24:04):
If it's going to come out this year, you'd hear
it probably around this timeperiod.
The only games that areconfirmed for this is Claire,
Obscure, Expedition 33, Doom ofthe Dark Ages and South of
Midnight.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:16):
Those are the only confirmed games.

Mark Trobough (01:24:18):
That would be good information.
Those.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:20):
By far.

Mark Trobough (01:24:20):
Doom is the most popular, but it's like just
under two weeks, so not nextweek, but the week after we'll
definitely be talking about thisdirect.
I mean, maybe next week we'llbe talking about the Tinder
direct.
That'd be great.
They drop some on a Monday, sayhey, this is Tuesday or
something, because they don'tdrop stuff more than like 72
hours out for their directs.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:39):
Matt Long said.
I played some of the IndianaJones live stream.
Did you like the game?
I love the game.
I still haven't beat it yet,but I'm probably about 12 hours
into the game.
I think it's fantastic.
I was mildly optimistic becauseI liked the IP and then I
thought that it looked likeeverything coming out.

(01:25:01):
It looked like it was going tobe good.
We were just like we'recautiously optimistic At times.
We're even maybe pessimisticwith games because we crapped on
Marvel Rivals.
We crapped on a lot of stuffright Like let's be honest here
and I'll continue to crap onstuff we thought it was going to
be another clone.
You had the Concord issues.

(01:25:22):
There's reasons to be, you know, weary of things coming out,
but no, indiana Jones isfantastic.
I think it's great.
I just had really bad marketingyeah, I really want Mark to play
it.
I think that he'll like it,because I know that you like old
Indiana Jones, because I'lltalk about this.

Mark Trobough (01:25:40):
This is old Indiana Jones, like it's'll talk
about this.
This is old Indiana Jones.
Like it's a really good game,but the way it was marketed and
the perceived.
Xbox.

Brandon Hurles (01:25:49):
On the outside.
I'm sorry.

Mark Trobough (01:25:53):
Because everybody focused on that one dude who
looks like the reincarnated DEIand they're like, oh, this game
is going to be trash.
It was just not marketed wellin any way.
To be positive, outside of theDecember window.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:06):
But then the game came out, and I mean it
came out to a lot of praise anda lot of people love it.

Mark Trobough (01:26:12):
The problem is a lot of people the first
impression's everything.
If they see anything negativethat they don't like in that
first impression, they're justnot even going to pay attention
to it after the fact and thatwas the, the inevitable problem
was yeah, this game was notmarketed properly and it hurt
probably a good good salespotential.
But like, let's be fair tongue,game pass triple.
A game industry has gotten areal bad reputation in the west.

(01:26:35):
So people are just are lookingfor any reason to be like oh
yeah, I figured that's gonna befinding dei and things that
aren't dei.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:43):
Like we are so tired.
But the problem is we're sotired of it that you've been
trained in places that it's notthere.

Mark Trobough (01:26:52):
You know what I mean yeah, it might, because we
talk about it might not be inthe game but it's, and it might
be in the marketing.
You might have people on socialmedia come out and say stuff.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:00):
Uh I'm definitely not defending it
either.
You know how I feel about it.
I'm just saying, like we arethe marketing, because you we
have to the point where it'slike we've been burned.

Mark Trobough (01:27:11):
Sorry, I just want to say we've been burned so
many times in the industry withstuff like this, especially
when they try to hide stuff likethat, people are just, you know
, extremely.
They get a whiff of it.
They're like I'm out.
No, like I don't.
I don't want this at all,whether that's right or wrong,
it's.
It's just sort of the realitythat we're in right now yeah,
for sure, for sure.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:29):
I mean, it's one of those things that that you
know if, if something happens somany times and then you wear
the person out, like this isjust a cycle of society, because
this has happened throughouthistory many times in many
different ways.

Mark Trobough (01:27:47):
When you look at the games they're doing really
well, they're starting to comeout of China, they're coming out
of South Korea.
A decent amount of stuff that'sstill coming out of Japan is
still good.
A lot of the games that peoplewant are coming from Eastern
developers.
We just talked about it howpopular Marvel Rivals is, and
that are coming from Easterndevelopers.
We just talked about it howpopular Marvel rivals is and
that was developed by a Chinesedeveloper.
Yeah, it's like you know thesedevelopers know what they want
and they'll obviously mark it,which is wild, you know they

(01:28:08):
don't have a, they don't haveunderlying opinions that they,
they, they, that they want topush and stuff like that, or
that people are tired, soskeptical from the get-go yeah,
it's a reputation the industry'screated themselves.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:21):
So yeah, yeah, I , I don't it's one of those.

Mark Trobough (01:28:24):
It's like you're gonna have to.
You're gonna have to take awhile and prove me wrong several
times for me to, to, to comeback or even start trusting you
again yeah, I, I don't disagreeat all, yeah but on top of that
you still talk about xbox.
Uh uh, the sales numbers for thexbox series x and s are not
ideal.
So these are the sales numbersjust from november.

(01:28:45):
These aren't like lifetimesales.
But as of november 2024, thexbox series x and s were a
distant third at 767 000consoles sold.
That's the nintendo switch.
For that same, for that samemonth, we're at 1.7 million and
the ps5 was at 4.1 million.
Like it's not.
Like if you just look at the atthe x, because the switch is at

(01:29:07):
the end of its life cycle.
If you look at the ps5 and thexbox, it's getting crushed right
now from from it's not evenhitting a million.
The ps5 broke over 4.1.
And this is november.
This is, like you know, the theholiday season build up.
Maybe they're not decembernumbers, but a lot of people
start shopping in november earlyand stuff like that yeah, they
do yeah, it's, it's not even,it's not even a competition,

(01:29:29):
really it's, it's, it's reallynot, it's, oh sorry sorry, uh,
on this same thing on the sametweet that was posted.
So the lifetime sales for thexbox series s and x uh 31.2
million.
Ps5 is at 67.6 million.
Obviously we know the switch isat 146 million it's not so it's

(01:29:50):
essentially getting better thanthe xbox one.

Brandon Hurles (01:29:53):
If I, if I like it's already at, I believe, past
lifetime sale, I could be wrong, could be wrong wrong.

Mark Trobough (01:30:00):
They said the PS4 , which still sold 4,000 copies
in November, is sitting at 117.1million, still no Wii U.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:08):
But it's not good numbers, it's not good
numbers.

Mark Trobough (01:30:10):
The PS5 has sold over twice as many copies as the
Xbox Series X.
It's the fact that the Xboxthey're never going to relive
their 360 era.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:19):
As far as popularity, you think that the
ps5 surpasses ps4 sales, becauseps4 sales are crazy well, the
the lifetime sales of the ps5 isat 67.6 and the ps4 is set at
170.

Mark Trobough (01:30:33):
I think it'll come close.
But you're realistically, we'relike what?
The halfway mark of the lifeand its sales are probably gonna
start slowing down.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:41):
We're pat I mean sony, said it themselves so
like whether or not.
They sell the ps5 for a fewyears after you know the ps well
, you imagine, because they havethe, the ps4 is still selling.

Mark Trobough (01:30:53):
It's with 4 000 copies, but they're, they still
had some sales yeah, it's stillmy local walmart doesn't move I
think it'll.
It'll come close to, it couldcome close.
I don't know if it'll break$100 million, for sure it just
it's up in the air.
I'd also be curious to know howmany people have moved to PC,
because the PC market is forsure digging into it from where

(01:31:15):
the PS4 was at.
Yeah, I would tell you thatEspecially when Sony and
Microsoft keep bringing theirgames to pc, it's less and less
of a reason if you, if you'regoing to pick one, why not go
for the pc and get everythingall in one?

Brandon Hurles (01:31:27):
there is a caveat for me.
Um, so I I love pc now.
I I truly love pc gaming now.
But when it comes toplaystation first party games, I
have absolutely zero interestin playing them on PC, and
that's because of the mixed bagthat it's been.

(01:31:48):
They're optimized for thePlayStation five.
You don't have to worry aboutany of those issues.
The dual sense controller Ilove the haptic feedback.
I think it's great and it playsinto a lot of games and I, like
I don't want to worry aboutoptimization issues.
I don't want to worry about myyou're.
You can't make the game runcorrectly on pc for six months,

(01:32:12):
you know.
And then also waiting as longas you have to wait for the game
.
To me it's just like I.
No thanks, like'll, just A lotof people have massive backlogs
anyways.
Stellar Blade's the only oneI'll probably double dip on.
But let's be fair.

Mark Trobough (01:32:26):
Just because of what it is, you know If you were
going to pick one where youcould get everything, and you
probably already have to have amassive backlog of games to play
anyways.
There's no reason to need toplay all these games.
When they come out and you'rewilling to wait as well as
potentially save money, it's notthe worst decision.
Eventually, these games aregoing to come out sooner and
sooner on PC.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:44):
It's just a matter of them properly having
to optimize the launch A portstudio working at the same time.

Mark Trobough (01:32:51):
I think that's only a matter of time, because
Microsoft's been doing that foryears now.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:54):
I think they want to go day and day.
I think they want to.

Mark Trobough (01:32:57):
I just don't think they haven't been able to
um, but it's not an immediatedrive and it's still been
something fairly early, but Ithink it's only a matter of time
before they start this, thisday and date which will, because
inevitably, start cutting intotheir console sales we're just
we're heading so close and theconsoles just straight up being
pcs that are, you know,mid-range PCs.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:19):
I mean, at the end of the day, it's not the NES
era anymore.
Consoles aren't as specializedas they once were, where they
were all completely differenthardware Every bit of it was.
Now consoles are more like PCs,they're more like an affordable
PC, and I understand whysomebody goes for a console

(01:33:42):
versus a pc, because it's justplug and play.
It's plug and play.

Mark Trobough (01:33:45):
It's so easy.
But, to be fair, the prices ofconsoles have gotten so close to
the prices of what you can geta reasonable pc for right, close
, close to like a thousanddollars.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:56):
Okay.
So, for instance, ps5 proyou're looking at around, they
guesstimate a 4070 Ti is aboutwhat you're getting.
So you look at just the priceof just a 4070 Ti right now.
Then get your CPU.
You want to get an equivalentCPU to the PS5 Pro.

(01:34:17):
You're already over.
I mean you're over already onjust two parts.
You still got the motherboard,you still got the memory, you
still got the case.
So, like pc, gaming isn't, it's, it's, it's not for everybody,
and I and I get that.
But I will say this I have seenmore people moving the pc than
I ever have ever.

Mark Trobough (01:34:38):
I mean it's been more affordable.

Brandon Hurles (01:34:39):
Like, look at like I I pulled up something I
wouldn't say it's you, you couldbuy a pre-built pc for like
yeah that's what I was about tosay.

Mark Trobough (01:34:47):
As of right now, uh, I pulled up some on
ibuypower.
It's not the, it's one of theit's on the top best selling
page that I scrolled then Ifound the cheapest one.
So for like just over athousand dollars you can get a
pre-built pc that's got a.
It's got an i5 cpu.
It's not the best, but it's 16gigs of ram, it's got a 40 60 in
it and a terabyte of empty, uh,one terabyte of m.2 nvme.

(01:35:11):
You can play any game with that.
You're not playing max settings, but for for a thousand or just
over a thousand dollars.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:17):
you have a 10range PC and can still play
1080p games.

Mark Trobough (01:35:24):
It's not a 50 series, but it's a 40-60.
It's not the top, but it'saffordable and you can play any
game at 1080p resolution justfine.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:31):
Mr Coffee said.

Mark Trobough (01:35:33):
And that's just a few hundred dollars more than
what consoles are going for.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:36):
Let me hit just a couple comments here, real
quick.
Pamela came back in and saidwhen it's at your local Walmart,
it's definitely reached itshalf-life.
Matt Long said if I get onPlayStation, I feel that I am
now obligated to platinum it.
See, I've never I haven'tplatinum.

Mark Trobough (01:35:55):
I've got away from that.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:56):
I've been with PlayStation since the PS I mean
PS1, and obviously it wasintroduced in the PS three era.
I've never platinum a singlegame.
Uh, so yeah.

Mark Trobough (01:36:07):
I platinum with you, but it's only games that
you like and stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:36:10):
I played a lot of Xbox three, 60.
And then I I've I've talkedabout before but the Xbox one, I
didn't get one until two yearsbefore the series X came out and
I I never had a PS4 until PS5was out.
I bought a PS4 after I alreadyhad a PS5.
Um, I don't remember why, yeah,I don't remember why I did that

(01:36:32):
.
Uh, I think it was just acollector thing.
I wanted, I wanted to have one.

Mark Trobough (01:36:37):
I didn't have the PS4 at launch, but I traded it
for the PS4 Pro for her to playgames on, so I bought a PS4.

Brandon Hurles (01:36:45):
Yeah, so I mean I can't see on here through my
chat?
You'll have to let me know,mark, what they're saying over
on Twitch, but Rapsheet has lefta few comments and I can't view
what they are.

Mark Trobough (01:36:57):
Oh, those were yeah, they were emojis.
We had Gamer Freak saying lovey'all mario.
Uh, what's?
Uh, let's go xbox.
Love mario, uh, does mark playvideo games?
Yeah, I do, uh mark playinglandiana jones, stuff like that,
and the rap sheet was comingback with some more emojis uh.

Brandon Hurles (01:37:17):
And then matt long said I do prefer console
when playing with a friend thatis here in my house.
Yes, I can put a secondcontroller to my PC, but I
prefer both sitting on the couch.
That hurts me.
You have to platinum everythingI have, so many trophies I
purchased a PS3 to go back andplatinum my childhood games.
I mean fair enough and like Iget it.

Mark Trobough (01:37:36):
Some games are a pain to platinum.

Brandon Hurles (01:37:38):
I have a really high gamer score on Xbox,
because the 360 era I was all360.
I mean, I got a PS3 at the verytail end, like I got a PS3
Super Slim, the one that slidthe door.
The door slid on it, so like Igot it when it was $100 or
something, but something wrong.

Mark Trobough (01:37:59):
What's going on?
All my windows just minimized.

Brandon Hurles (01:38:07):
I don't know why , all righty.
Then, uh, and then matt longsaid oh, I caught up everything.
Yeah, I said about thechildhood games there.
So, yeah, no, that's a goodreason to do it.
I've got a ps3 sitting righthere, I can touch it.
It's the og ps3 backwardscompatible.
The reason I have this here isbecause I can play ps1, ps2, ps3

(01:38:31):
, and then I got my ps5 rightnext to it where I play ps4 and
ps5 games so I can play everyera of playstation games.
So it's hooked up at all times.
Achievements how many games doyou 100%?
I don't know how many, but I'vegot a pretty high gamer score
because I started from the verybeginning of the gamer scores

(01:38:51):
being introduced.
I couldn't tell you, I'd haveto look it up.
I mean, like I know people withway, way higher gamer scores
than I have, but for me it'spretty high.
My gaming time is almostnon-existent these days.
It's hard to get in any gametime.

(01:39:13):
I'll check on the app here, butwhat do we got next, mark?

Mark Trobough (01:39:18):
This one was just something that I thought was
neat.
Playstation Game Night reviewedhow many gamers turn off their
playstation compared to theyjust put it in rest mode.
Uh, so they.
They came out and said about 50of ps5 users uh, put it in rest
and the other half willactually shut it down.
I always I can I canconfidently say I'm one of those
that I just put in rest mode.

Brandon Hurles (01:39:37):
I almost never turn it off, always put mine in
rest mode and I've never Ididn't know people shut their
ps5 down.
I mean, the one of the bigthings is like, if you're in the
middle of a game like, you wantto be able to just pick back up
where you are on that game.

Mark Trobough (01:39:50):
That's the big reason.
I think it works for like onegame, one application.

Brandon Hurles (01:39:53):
You can minimize a game, pull up like a, like
youtube, and you can go rightback to your game yeah, I like
being able to just pull my gameback up if it's game I'm playing
, especially if I've got like 20minutes of game time or
something like that.

Mark Trobough (01:40:06):
I want to be able to just I mean the rest mode,
these consoles, so well designedfor rest.
But same with my pc, just moreor less.
You just put it in rest modeand it's.
It works so well at minimalpower, it doesn't zap a lot.
And these cons, these consoles,are designed to essentially sit
in rest mode.
It's not gonna hurt yourhardware or anything like that,
unless I know I'm gonna be likeout of the house.

(01:40:26):
I always heard that.

Brandon Hurles (01:40:28):
I don't know if it's true or not, or if it's
ever been debunked, but foryears I heard that it was always
better to put your PC intosleep mode than it was to turn
it off.

Mark Trobough (01:40:42):
That's what I heard from it's like the 90s.
I've heard that I think I'mpretty sure it has, because
they're designed to.
But it's one of those thingswhere power cycling is not the
best thing at at uh for a lot ofstuff.
But I've been around a lot ofelectronics that never get shut
down.
But they're designed to neverbe shut down.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:02):
So it's, you know, power cycling, it does
more damage so I wonder ifthere's truth to that that
leaving your PC or console inrest mode they're designed to
put it like for the PC.

Mark Trobough (01:41:15):
It's sleep, it's rest mode.
They're designed for that towork and they assume a lot of
people are because it allows youto have stuff right they're
running in the background, or tonot have to restart and restart
all these applications.
Everything's still running inthe background.
You're just minimizing how muchpower draw that your PC's using
and stuff like that.
So where stuff's still runningbut it's not drawing hardly any
power and you're not runningfans and RGB unnecessarily.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:38):
So people in chat saying Pamela said always
in rest mode.
Matt said when I first got myps4 and played every day I used
rest mode.
Mr coffee said shut it down.
It bugged me that my xbox one xhad a rest mode.

Mark Trobough (01:41:53):
Uh, but if you're not gonna play it every day,
you're probably better offshutting it down.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:56):
But yeah, if you're not gonna play it all the
time, I can hear it's such alow hum it would.
But you can hear an xbox one x?
I I've never had an xbox one x,but if you could hear it, yeah,
that would bother me too.
I wouldn't want to have it inrest mode, if that's the case.
Um matt said, I always turn mydesktop off, never sleep.
I do it for maybe how much myelectric would cost.

Mark Trobough (01:42:18):
I mean I don't know electric bills like 50 60
bucks a month, so it's it'snegligible yeah, I don't.

Brandon Hurles (01:42:26):
I mean very little power is used.

Mark Trobough (01:42:29):
Yeah I'd be like very very little sleep you're.
You're saving pennies on thedollar at that point.
If you were to actually look atyour, your energy costs, I, I
do actually think like thesethese computers you think it
actually is bad to power cycleoff that much like?
if you're going to do it everyday, like you're doing it every
single day?
Yeah, I don't think it's good,and the base settings on your pc

(01:42:51):
and console are designed withthe power save in mind.
Yeah, and stuff like that tominimize the draw, and stuff
like that.
So they're the power draw is sonegligible.

Brandon Hurles (01:43:02):
I've got 1, 2, 3 , my PC Wii U.
Even so, I've got 4 consoles,always on rest mode, plus a PC,
and electric is negligible it'sthe same thing my Wii U has not
been turned on in months it's inrest mode.
I mean you know, in the inmonths it's in rest mode.

Mark Trobough (01:43:22):
I I mean you know like four in the six months it
probably cost you like a dollaror two in the energy.
It probably.
Yeah, it's it's so little likeit's, it's the same thing with,
like, uh, like with headlight,because growing up you still use
the old fluorescent.
Those drain battery, drain power, you know, not terrible but it
drain noticeable because yourparents always say turn the
lights off and stuff like that.

(01:43:42):
But if you have any of thenewer bulbs, especially the led
ones, the power draws so low.
You could just leave all your,all your lights on and you'd see
, uh, you know, a negligibleincrease in your power bill and
stuff like that.
Like we've gotten so good at apower saving a lot of our
technology, let's be fair likesome of this stuff still draws
power when it's actually on andyou're playing it a lot.

(01:44:03):
But there's a lot of stuff thatyou know when you're not
actively using it's so good atyou know not drawing such
negligible power.
But it like if you're not gonnalike if you're gonna play your,
your console, like once a oncea week, you know you're probably
better off than shutting it off.
Like if I'm gonna be overnightI'll shut my PC and stuff off,
just because I don't want it on,just in case.

Brandon Hurles (01:44:23):
Yeah, if you're gone that's a different story.
I would probably shut down Tobe fair, it's still negative.

Mark Trobough (01:44:31):
I don't know why.
Periodically my PC will wake upfrom sleep mode for no reason.
I don't touch it, It'll justwake up.

Brandon Hurles (01:44:44):
That's a minor thing, I don't know.
Interesting, yeah, I uh.
Yeah, camera freak said nevershut down a pc.
Uh, mr coffee said isn't therea big issue with the cmos
battery in the wii u?
There is.
Yeah, uh, that is a problemwith the wii u.
So if you have your wii uturned off, if it's plugged up
into rest mode, you're fine, butif you have your, if your wii
u's turned off, and not thebattery dying would be a problem

(01:45:05):
.

Mark Trobough (01:45:05):
Yeah, it's a problem, uh.

Brandon Hurles (01:45:07):
Pamela said uh, I've never heard it home, but
it's in another room.
If we're in a bedroom, thatwould be in.
That would be annoying.
Matt long said can I upload myfiles to google drive while I'm
sleep?
Yeah, I think so, because Iupload stuff from my phone to.
I mean, yeah, I think so rightif you're in sleep mode?
I don't know yeah I don't know,because I've never done it that

(01:45:28):
way.

Mark Trobough (01:45:29):
I mean, I don't I'm not sure about that, you
might have to google that one.

Brandon Hurles (01:45:32):
I'm not sure on that one, to be honest with you,
I think sleep was more designedjust to to.

Mark Trobough (01:45:37):
It's pretty because you're like, when I my
pc, when I put it into sleepmode, the fans stop, the lights
turn off, like you visibly heara lot of stuff turn off, uh, but
it's still drawing power tokeep all your stuff running in
the background.
That way, when you come back,you just need to like move your
mouse, everything comes rightback on.
You don't have to like restartthe computer.
Everything started up, pull upapplications like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:45:56):
I will say, as far as like moving files, though
I don't, I, I don't know, Ipower cycle before every stream
and podcasts, just because of,like all the background stuff
I've done throughout the week orwhatever working with uh,
editing software, different appsthat I've had pulled up, I
power cycle before anything I'mdoing stream or podcast wise.
So I always do that.

(01:46:17):
I always restart the computerbefore um, that way there's's
less things running and I justfeel safer doing that.
I found when I didn't do thatbefore that there tended to be
more issues, but now that I dothat and I have done it for a
long time at this point,probably well over a year tends
to be less issues, less thingsrunning in the background, stuff

(01:46:40):
like that.
So I do that.
But uh, uh, to hit up earlierwhen you were talking, matt long
, uh, my gamer score is um, ohboy, I just had it up just a
second.
So it's 23,058, which I I mean,I think, relatively high

(01:47:03):
achievements wise.
Yeah, like I said, I don't getto play games like I did in the
360 era Back then it was writtengames getting all the
achievements.
I could possibly get playingstupid silly little games like
Doritos Crash Course just to getall the achievements things
like that which I still have.

Mark Trobough (01:47:23):
Get all the achievements, things like that
which I still have, actuallyStuff like that I have a
question because you say you doa lot of work on your computer
and stuff like that.
Do you have a battery backupLike an Ops or I guess a UPS,
it's all the same thing.
It's just like a battery backup.
No, should I.
I mean it depends, or I guess Iguess ups, it's all the same
thing.
It's just like a battery backup.
No, should I.

(01:47:44):
Uh, I mean it depends, uhbecause I know a lot of people
that that they if they do a lotof work on stuff like that,
because if you're not constantlysaving your work, because the
idea like a battery backup is,for one, it makes sure you're
getting clean power into it andstuff like that, but the idea is
that you like lose power andstuff like that.
Your computer doesn't shut offor your console doesn't shut off

(01:48:04):
, which is not good for it.
It has you know however long ofbattery backup which is enough
for you to save your work andshut your pc down that I might
have to look into.

Brandon Hurles (01:48:14):
Okay, I might have to look that one up it's
one of those things though.

Mark Trobough (01:48:16):
Uh, just in case, like if you lose back for one
of those things like it's onething, if you just it's one
thing if you're just playing avideo game, a lot of those auto
save, but like if you wereactually doing a lot of work, uh
, a battery backup it's one itmakes.
It makes you you get clean,constant, clean energy.
You don't have a lot of thosefluctuations, uh.
But it also makes sure that youknow if you were like lose
power, you don't lose any ofyour work and your pc doesn't

(01:48:39):
just shut down on you.
It gives you time to to savewhat you're doing and power down
for you know whether it's likeyou know 10 minutes or to like
an hour from 185 dollars all theway up to 1300 dollars.
So I might do a little moreresearch depends on how big and
how long you want it to last andstuff like that.
But yeah, I know a lot ofpeople like if you do any amount
of work on your PC, that'simportant for your job.

(01:49:02):
Battery backups are reallyimportant.

Brandon Hurles (01:49:05):
I'm probably going to have to invest in that
because I have had to restart.
There's been some problems.
I've had a few instances wherewe've lost electric and I lost
all my progress.

Mark Trobough (01:49:15):
It's very frustrating.
Even a cheaper one that'll lastjust long enough for you to
save your work and shut down,just in case.

Brandon Hurles (01:49:23):
Yeah, I think I I need to probably.

Mark Trobough (01:49:26):
I do a lot of like.
I do a lot a lot of work stufffor work on a computer, but the
problem is one that's done on aweb page to it's, it's all.
I have a work laptop for it, sothere's a.
There's a battery in it bydefault.
Yeah, but any hard electronicsthat I've ever worked on for my
job, there's always a batterybackup that's designed to be
able to properly, you know, shutstuff down yeah, for sure, as

(01:49:48):
well, as it also gives you, itgives you constant clean energy.
So if you're looking at like the, the lifespan of your, of your
hardware really matters to you,uh, making sure there's no
fluctuations in the power.
If you have a good battery bank, it's giving you constant.
I guess we just call cleanversus like dirty energy and
stuff like that.
But that's a yeah, I don't knowI can dig into that.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:05):
That's so like.
That's a whole different thingthan.

Mark Trobough (01:50:08):
Clean and dirty.
That has to deal with the whatdoes dirty?
Energy mean Exactly Fluctuationand energy.
It's your pc needs like aconstant, like a 12 voltage or
something like that.
Clean energy means you'reconstantly getting 12 voltage.
You're getting no fluctuations.
Dirty energy would be, you knowyou.
You can get small variations tolike large variations between

(01:50:29):
it, going down to like 10 orgoing up to like 16, which is
not not ideal for your hardwareso that sounds like something I
need to invest in, probably butI mean like even more, so you're
more expensive, like gpu andcpu right I'm not sure, but like
ideally your uh, your powerbank should be doing that for
you as well.
But a battery backup.
Not only does it give you anemergency battery, but it also

(01:50:51):
makes sure you're not gettingfluctuations.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:55):
So is it like an upstream of energy?
I guess I'm trying to figureout, like the functionality of
how it actually, how it actuallyworks.
Is it like upstreaming theenergy, like the?

Mark Trobough (01:51:10):
uh, well, no, like the like all you love, the
closest thing that we get.
First of all, dirty energy justmeans you're not getting the
constant wattage or a voltageessentially, but I guess the
idea is say there's like alightning strike, like hits a
power bowl, uh, like a voltageessentially.
But I guess the idea is saythere's like a lightning strike,
like hits a power bowl, uh,like a power pole or something
like that.
Before you lose power you get amassive surge of electricity
that could essentially fry yourlike components on your computer

(01:51:31):
because they're very sensitive.
That stuff like that, a battery,like like a proper ups that
does what it does it's supposedto, or even just a uh, a power
strip, prevents that thatvoltage, that extreme spike,
from getting to your, to yourstuff.
It protects your actualhardware from that happening.
It's why you should never plugin like a console or like your
computer straight into that, tothat wall outlet.

(01:51:52):
You should very least put intoit like a power strip yeah, if
you get that if you get thatvoltage it's stopping at the
power strip, it's not going intoyour computer and stuff like
that right, yeah, I, Idefinitely do that.

Brandon Hurles (01:52:04):
I've got a good power strip too.
I spend a lot of money on it, agood monster power strip.
It's got like uh, differentports for like green energy, and
then, like it's got like avariation of of uh, of plugs for
it, so stuff like that.
But uh, I it's also probablylike eight years old, but I paid

(01:52:26):
a lot for.
I paid almost 200 bucks for itwhen I bought it so well we went
.

Mark Trobough (01:52:31):
We went in a rabbit hole.
I know we were talking aboutbefore yeah, I don't know.
It's all right, we're having areally good episode so, yeah,
two, two other small littlethings, I guess.
Uh, before we get to some ofthe big stuff, one Team, ninja,
came out and teased some plansfor their 30th anniversary.
They're going to announcesomething in 2025.

(01:52:54):
I don't remember if I saw forsure what it was, but they're
like, hey, we're going to teasesomething because apparently
this is their 30th anniversary.
They've made games like NinjaGaiden, andiden and dead or
alive and stuff like that, uh,but apparently they're supposed
to be having something that thatcomes out later this year or
they're really there.
I don't know if they'veannounced it yet.
I didn't see.
I saw that they're going toannounce it, but not not

(01:53:15):
something like for sure niceyeah, I yeah, as well, I guess,
I don't know.
No, you're good.
Yeah, I just.
I just saw that and put it outthere, so I guess we should be
expecting something from them aswell as there's.
There are rumors that a ElderScrolls 4 Oblivion remake could

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be in the works.

Brandon Hurles (01:53:38):
Yeah, I saw a meme that said that is what it's
.

Mark Trobough (01:53:41):
It's rumored to be using Unreal Engine 5.

Brandon Hurles (01:53:44):
Skyblivion was the meme I saw.

Mark Trobough (01:53:47):
Skyblivion is a mod for Skyrim, with essentially
remaking Oblivion in the sameengine.
That was the one thing I saw.

Brandon Hurles (01:53:56):
I would love a Morrowind and Oblivion remake.

Mark Trobough (01:54:01):
I like Morrowind and Oblivion a lot first of all,
I find it hard to believebecause they say Unreal Engine 5
first of all, but this is neverused Unreal Engine 5.

Brandon Hurles (01:54:10):
Well, Unreal Engine 5 is particularly good.

Mark Trobough (01:54:14):
It's an overused engine and it's good for
first-person shooters, overusedproblems.
It's got problems.
It's not the best engine outthere and I think it would be
worse for it.

Brandon Hurles (01:54:25):
It's not.

Mark Trobough (01:54:26):
I mean, let's be fair, the creation is not the
best out there, but it'sdesigned for these games.
The Unreligion isn't designedfor games like this.
It works better with Call ofDuty and stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:54:36):
Yeah, but you see, with Call of Duty, black
Ops 6, I'm actively playing itand it has more issues than any
Call of Duty I have.
I mean because we werestreaming it.
The last time we streamed it,those issues, those weren't
coming from me.
I was testing.
I was testing to make sure thateverything was good on my end

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Paying latency, all of thatstuff.
Everything was good on my end.
It's the game, it's the gameoptimization.

Mark Trobough (01:55:09):
Black Ops 6 uses the IW engine, which is an which
Infiniti Award made themselves.

Brandon Hurles (01:55:12):
It's just a different version of it yeah,
but it's just an offshoot ofUnreal Engine 5, right?
I have no idea okay, well,could be wrong there, but
regardless, it does have issuesand it's talked about by a lot
of people.
So we got quite a few comments.
How do I even put my desktop torest?

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Just go to the Windows icon.
So we got quite a few comments.
How do?
I even put my desktop to rest,Just go to the Windows icon
power Instead of going to shutdown.

Mark Trobough (01:55:38):
you hit sleep instead, Because you have shut
down.
Sleep and restart it's all inthe same area.

Brandon Hurles (01:55:45):
Rap Sheet said, I've encountered people who
never reboot their PC.

Mark Trobough (01:55:47):
Then wonder why stuff is not working all of a
sudden.
Well, it depends on whetherthey're just leaving it on or
they're put into rest mode.
True, uh, we got as well asafter several years, eventually,
eventually, the hardware isgonna gonna, is gonna die got
our first x sometimes designedto be on constantly, so it just
depends yeah, uh said, invest inthat, and then also do you play

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pokemon.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:10):
I love Pokemon, so I play Pokemon.

Mark Trobough (01:56:13):
Mark's not just not Scarlet and Violet.
I hate those games.
They're such poorly designedgames.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:20):
Pamela said sounds like going through a
hurricane.
Definitely use a power strip.
Diy Prison Media said hey guys.
Pamela said Buckeyes arebeating the Longhorns 14-7 third
quarter.
I know it has nothing to dowith the topic, but it's Ohio
State football.
We were talking about whetheranybody cared or not and chat

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about college football doesn'tmatter.
Michigan beat Ohio State,that's all I care about oh, wild
man, wild man, what a man, whata man you know what I hate the
SEC more than Ohio State.

Mark Trobough (01:57:03):
So you know, if Ohio State wins I won't be too
upset yeah, we'll see whathappens.

Brandon Hurles (01:57:09):
I haven't been following this year.
I mean I've been following, butI'm not.
I did not subscribe to anycable package or anything to
watch the game, so everythingthat I see is after the games or
during, or tweets or whateveryou know.
So Mr Coffee said Damn, that'sa huge score.
Oh the battle of Toledo.

Mark Trobough (01:57:31):
Yeah, rap Sheet said forgot the game was on.

Brandon Hurles (01:57:32):
Yeah the game's on Still going on now.

Mark Trobough (01:57:36):
Pretty much kicked off right before we went
live.

Brandon Hurles (01:57:39):
What third quarter?
I don't know.
I'm intentionally trying to notpay attention to it, so I can
focus on the podcast.

Mark Trobough (01:57:45):
Yeah, there's 319 left in the third quarter.
Texas is down by seven andthey're what?
Third and seven on Ohio State's25.

Brandon Hurles (01:57:53):
Yeah, sounds about right, all right.
Well, let's head into the bignews, because we had a lot of
big news this week.
We are running on 10-10, but Ithink we're good, right, yeah,
no, we're good, okay, all right.
So one of the the, if not thebiggest, and besides the switch

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to stuff set that we saw, thatis obviously some of it is
legitimately real.
We can't argue that.
Besides that, I would say, thebiggest discourse and what I'm
seeing everywhere, non-stop, onall platforms, is uh video
announcing the 50 series cardsuh, yeah, which we all knew was
coming we knew was coming andand I actually learned that the

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40 series cards were the longestgap of cards from nvidia, so it
was the longest gap we've hadbetween cards.
Um, obviously we got, like thesuper cards later, a year later,
but we didn, but we didn't geta new series of cards.
So we've got.
I'm just reading from theofficial NVIDIA website We've

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got, powered by NVIDIA Blackwell, geforce RTX 50 Series GPUs.
Bring game-changingcapabilities to gamers and
creators.
Equipped with a massive levelof ai horsepower, the rtx 50
series enables new experiencesand next level graphics fidelity
, multiply performance withnvidia dlss4 which is crazy.

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Generate images atunprecedented speed and unleash
your creativity with NVIDIAStudio.
So we've got some of the finerdetails.
We got NVIDIA BlackwellArchitecture, the ultimate
platform for gamers and creators.
We got 5th Gen Tensor Cores,max AI Performance with FP4 and

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DLSS4.
So, keep in mind, we are atDLSS 3.5, obviously with the 40
series.
New streaming multiprocessorsoptimized for neural shaders,
4th Gen ray tracing cores builtfor mega geometry, and some of
the other details we got are AI,enhanced graphics and

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performance with multi-framegeneration.
So right now we have singleframe generation.
So that's what people aresaying is one of the big,
significant changes besides justDLSS 4 to the 50 series
graphics cards Game winningresponsiveness.
Nvidia Reflex 2 with Frame framewarp uh, true to life graphics.

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Full ray tracing with neuralrendering, digital humans and ai
assistance with nvidia ace.
Accelerate your creativity.
Nvidia studio creator tools andtechnology.
Enhance any video with ai,nvidia broadcast and ninth gen
nvidia encoder performance andreliability.
Nvidia app with game ready andstudio drivers uh, the ultimate

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gaming display technologies withthe new nvidia g-sync.
Um, so some of the mappers.
Unfortunately, I don't have asetup where we can show you guys
, um, some of the mappers, sowe're looking at mark.
I assume you got the link thatI had on there, right?
yeah so we're looking at likewe'll take, for example, what we

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got cyberpunk 2077 um, we'vegot double the performance with
dlS 4 and full ray tracing.
Yeah, 2x.
We've got just above 2X forwell, significantly above 2X, I

(02:01:39):
guess, for Blackmeth Wukong withDLSS and full ray tracing.
So we're at below 1X on thatjust slightly and we're above 2X
.
We're talking the 5090 rightnow, of course, um versus the
4090.
So these comparisons are apretty big jump um from the 4090

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to the 5090 yeah, actually,because they were saying one of
the big things was a significant.

Mark Trobough (02:02:06):
Uh, these new graphics cards are going to be
pulling a lot of power, a lot ofpower.
So if you're going to upgrade,you'll probably have to update
it.
So the 5070 is spec'd to pull650 watts, the 5070 Ti 750 watts
, the 5080, 850 watts and the5090 is pulling 1,000 watts.
These are pulling a lot ofpower.

(02:02:26):
Yeah, so if you already have apoorly optimized pc as far as
venting, you're gonna have abigger issue like power, like
power cooling on these, as wellas the cpu, is going to be a
continued.
It's always a an issue, butthese are pulling like a lot
more power.
Yeah, let me pull up the 46,save the so what what I've seen?

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the 5070 is equivalent to the4090, essentially, but slightly
not as good, I just want to say,because the 4070 that I have
only pulls 200 watts, yeah, sothat's a huge jump.
And then the 4090.

Brandon Hurles (02:03:05):
I've got the 4090.
What 450 watts yeah, the 4090.
It's right around 850 watts onaverage yeah, so I think, unless
you're using the Zotac, theZotac 24 Trinity that pulls 1000
watts.

Mark Trobough (02:03:25):
I think it's the higher and still pulling close.
It's a little bit more, butit's the lower and ones that are
pulling significantly more.

Brandon Hurles (02:03:32):
Yeah, obviously making sure you've got the
overhead founders edition.
Of course we don't know.

Mark Trobough (02:03:36):
you know from the other cards manufacturers, but
it's on like an extra, like 250Watts on just the lower end
cards, which is a significantincrease in power draw, I mean,
which really matters if you'rebuilding your own PC and then if
you don't have a whole lot ofoverhead already on your on your
on your on your power supply,yeah, you might have to, I might

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have to upgrade it.

Brandon Hurles (02:03:58):
But I mean the jump, and I'm looking at the
performance tab right now.
The jump is pretty massive.
I mean it's pretty, I think.

Mark Trobough (02:04:04):
I say, say, if you're looking at the 40, 70
with the dlss you're lookingabout on, uh, when they looked
at like the, you're looking atlike what about a 30 depending
on the game you're playingincrease, it was like the
maximum that people saw was a,was a 30 increase?

Brandon Hurles (02:04:17):
yeah, for the engine.

Mark Trobough (02:04:18):
Well, that's a 30 increase in frame rates so for
a lot of the stuff is especiallydoubling a lot of the, a lot of
the performance uh, yeah thatyou were getting from the, from
the previous generation, likeit's a significant jump in power
which is mainly being pushed byby the ai and in the dlss and
stuff yeah.

Brandon Hurles (02:04:37):
So reading on the dlss for uh, it says supreme
speed, superior visuals poweredby ai.
Dlss is a revolutionary tool ofneural rendering technologies
that uses ai to boost fps,reduce latency and improve image
quality.
The latest breakthrough, dlss 4, brings new multi-frame

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generation and enhanced rayreconstruction, which is a big
deal, especially if you careabout you know, if you care
about that stuff in video games.
It's got super resolutionpowered by GeForce RTX 50 series
GPUs and fifth generationTensor cores.
Dlss on GeForce RTX is the bestway to play, backed by an

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NVIDIA AI supercomputer in thecloud, constantly improving your
PC's gaming capabilities, and Ithink that's with GeForce.
Now, right, with the cloudconnectivity, there's some cloud
involvement in this as well,which is pretty interesting.

Mark Trobough (02:05:39):
Also.
Another big thing is thepricing, the 5070 is starting at
$550, but the 5090 is $2,000dollars, so what's crazy is
that's msrp, which means it'sgonna be scalped for a lot more
yeah, msrp 2000.

Brandon Hurles (02:05:57):
But what's crazy is the other cards are actually
cheaper than when the 40 seriescards launched so well because
it's the flagship one isprobably.

Mark Trobough (02:06:05):
They're probably offsetting the costs with the,
with the 5090, to keep the otherones cheaper probably obviously
most consumers most, mostaverage consumers aren't getting
the higher end one you'redealing with.
More industry is going to begetting the 5090, the minus bulk
and stuff like that on top of afew scalpers.
Because, to be fair, the, the5070 to 5080, you know, based

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off the, the, the return oninvestment for the, what you,
the performance for the cost.
You know you don't, you don'tneed the 50 90 if you're just
playing video games andespecially if you're not playing
it like max settings constantlyat like 4k, you don't
necessarily need the fifth, likeyou can be just fine with the
50 70 and stuff like that I meanto be fair, because a lot of
people are going to be gettingthe 50 90, 8k with the 40 90

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with no man's sky like that'skind
of crazy like, let's be fair, alot of people are going to be
going after the 5090 are goingto be people that, a lot of a
lot of people that are doinglike video rendering and stuff
like that, stuff that you'reprobably going to be benefiting
far more from the actualhardware I will.

Brandon Hurles (02:07:03):
I will say this I am going after the 5090 and a
lot of it has it of.
It has way less to do withvideo games than it does with.
For me, it would be a big dealwhen it comes to video,
especially with my job, but thentalking about Game Junction and
then gaming as a plus when itcomes to that.

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So it's something I'm lookinginto.
I think I'm going to try to getone.
We'll see.
I mean, scalpers are going tobe all over it.
We know how the 4090 launch wasa nightmare.
If I remember correctly, and atthe time, I was paying
attention to it, but I wasn'teven in the pc.
I mean, I wasn't, I didn't evenhave a pc yet I had my laptop.
Uh, so I remember the 4090launch was a nightmare for

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people and it took well over.
It was like.
It was like the ps5.
It took like probably a yearand a half before and even now,
even right now, like they'restill being sold above msrp.
So like the 5090 is not goingto be any different.
You know what I mean.
I mean, they're still beingsold like to find it at MSRP.

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You're lucky to find an MSRP.
They're sold out everywhere at.

Mark Trobough (02:08:15):
MSRP, you have to expect, not to.

Brandon Hurles (02:08:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's, uh, it's, it's, it's
pretty, pretty crazy.
Um, let's see.

Mark Trobough (02:08:34):
What else can we say on the uh 50 series here?
So I mean it'll be interestingonce they actually you know you
get them out, people can startreviewing them and stuff like
that, or I'm sure some peoplehave already gotten access to
yeah, there's uh, they have alot of boundaries already been
able to, or I think.

Brandon Hurles (02:08:43):
I think tech tips.

Mark Trobough (02:08:44):
Yeah, I think I saw.
I haven't watched about the keyposted video.

Brandon Hurles (02:08:47):
In the past I watched asmongold's reaction to
Lion's Tech Tips video.
Yeah, it was interesting stufffor sure.
I definitely am highlyintrigued on the jump from, say,
the 40-90 to the 50-90.
Because I mean, based on thestats that they're giving us,

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it's a pretty significant jump.

Mark Trobough (02:09:11):
But like let's, let's be fair, these are stats
from nvidia, so you want to seethe actual people in the
industry start benchmarkingthese did.
Let's be fair.
Nvidia is gonna is gonnaprobably be optimizing all the
hardware that they're thatthey're making steps with, as
well, as you don't know exactlythe, the, some of the settings
and stuff like that.
We know some of what they'rethat they're making steps with,
as well, as you don't knowexactly the some of the settings
and stuff like that.
We know some of what they'retelling us, but you don't know

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everything else.
So you want like uh, what's itthe?
Uh, there's another computer,it's like tom's hardware and
stuff like that's one of the bigsites that'll do a lot of
benchmarking for these.
Yeah, actually seeing properbenchmarking from the people in
the industry, we you'll bebetter off wanting to get those
and comparing those differencesand stuff like that before you
would actually want to make apurchase outright.

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Let's just be fair.
Nvidia is going to be biased inwanting their stuff to look as
better because they want you toupgrade, because it financially
benefits them.
So actually getting people inthe industry that are doing
proper and widespreadbenchmarking across the spectrum
with different hardware setupsis going to be really what you
want to look for as far as, like, how accurate are some of these
uh benchmarks that nvidia'scome out and telling us?

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So you want to always want totake these with a grain of salt
until people that unbiasedsources are going to be testing
these, comparing them to, um,you know, some of some of like
the ryzen and stuff like that.
Yeah, you know, I, I definitelyagree.

Brandon Hurles (02:10:25):
I think it's good to see other people's
opinions who don't necessarilyhave any stake in the.
You know, I definitely agree.
I think it's good to see otherpeople's opinions who don't
necessarily have any stake inthe.
You know, in the game.
So definitely there's going tobe more and more stuff coming up
building up to it.
Like Linus got to check it out,I imagine 100% Digital Foundry

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is going to be able to divesuper deep into it.

Mark Trobough (02:10:48):
They're the resource for like benchmark 100%
.
Digital Foundry is going to beable to dive super deep into it.

Game Junction (02:10:50):
I just want to wait and see how accurate the
benchmark is.

Brandon Hurles (02:10:51):
They're the resource for benchmark tools for
all gaming.
They are the only channel Iknow of that put the PS5 Pro to
the test, down to the smallestof details, where people would
not care about it.
But people do care about it.
There are people that careabout that stuff.
So yeah, Escalated Friend saidpeople do care about it.
There are people that careabout that stuff and um, so yeah
, I mean escalated friend saidI'm buying a 50, 90 day, one

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mark.
Are you upgrading?

Mark Trobough (02:11:17):
I've only had my 40 70 for a little over a year,
so not not anytime soon.
Wonder what the I only gave it?
I only gave it 1440 P.
So yeah, Game, it's just notworth the price.
It'll be a few years before Iupgrade my PC again.

Brandon Hurles (02:11:35):
I think for you it might make more sense to hold
off anyway, just in case, andif I was going to get something,
I'd probably be looking likethe 5070 Ti.

Mark Trobough (02:11:43):
It'd probably be right around what I'd get I'm
not going to get.
I don't need a 1590.
I'm not.
I don't need to game that highlevel you don't work on your
computer a lot either.

Brandon Hurles (02:11:56):
There's a lot of other reasons.

Mark Trobough (02:11:58):
I work on a computer, but I'm still stuff
myself the 4K thing.

Brandon Hurles (02:12:03):
To me, I want to have a 4K monitor, to have a 4K
monitor.
Most of the time I care moreabout performance.
I want to have a 4K monitor, tohave a 4K monitor because I
mean, like, there are games.
Most of the time I care moreabout performance, you know,
usually with video games.
So to me that normally doesn'tmatter.
But there are some games like,say, in like Stellar Blade.
I would actually, for that,probably prefer to play that in
like 4K than I would care asmuch about performance.

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Now, if I'm playing like acompetitive marvel rivals call
of duty, I don't care about the4k at all.
I care about performance allthe way.
Frame rates, that's whatmatters to me there.

Mark Trobough (02:12:37):
But I don't have a.
I don't have a single displaythat does more than 1440p.

Brandon Hurles (02:12:41):
I don't need my 40p monitor is my, my desktop,
my, my, my tv only does like Ican do really, really high frame
rates, but I mean like very fewgames can even reach the frame
rates that my I'd rather havehigher frame rates over 4K.

Mark Trobough (02:12:55):
I'd rather play at 1080p with like maxed out
frame rates.

Brandon Hurles (02:12:57):
I have found one game, because I have a 480
hertz monitor.
I found one game to be able torun at basically max, which was
Doom Eternal, which is reallycool.
I mean it's like, uh, it's agood optimized game, then it's a
uh, it's a different experience.
It almost feels like it's it'sdifferent.

Mark Trobough (02:13:16):
Playing at that high of a frame rate it just
feels I don't even know andthere are some games that might
give you like 200 frames, butanything above 60 you're just
not really seeing.

Brandon Hurles (02:13:24):
To be fair, yeah , yeah, for sure.
Um, gamers nexus is a greattechnical source for these pc
parts.
Um, their breakdowns are foruber hardcore pc gamers.
Yeah, that's a good.
I don't can't say I necessarilywatch them that much.
They pop up every now and againin my feed.
I don't know too much aboutthem, but I've watched some

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videos here and there.
All right, what do we got next?
Mark, I think it's jumbled in.

Mark Trobough (02:13:52):
Switch to stuff, if I remember correctly yeah, I
was just getting stuff pulled upreal quick, uh, to make sure I
have it.
Yeah, uh, okay, yeah.
So obviously they say nintendo.
Yeah, unsurprisingly, nintendodidn't really mention they get
to see yes, the.
I don't think this was ever arealistic thing and they're
never going to launch the Switch.

Brandon Hurles (02:14:10):
2.
They did the Game Boy.

Mark Trobough (02:14:15):
The Switch 2 specifically.
If you were expecting any kindof announcement around CES, you
were smoking something.
It was never going to happen.
Nintendo was always going to dothis stuff in-house with their
directs.

Brandon Hurles (02:14:27):
And they always do a direct in January anyway,
so I did not expect it's onlyJanuary 10th.
It was always going to do thisstuff in-house with their
directs and they always do itdirect in January anyway, so
it's like I did not expect.

Mark Trobough (02:14:31):
It's only January 10th, so you have like another
three weeks before you, you know, to get announcements.

Brandon Hurles (02:14:35):
So yeah, yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (02:14:40):
I don't know if there's anything at all about
this other than the fact that,yeah, they didn't they didn't
come out and say say anything.

Brandon Hurles (02:14:51):
But none of us were expecting this to happen so
well, I guess, diving into theother, switch to stuff.

Mark Trobough (02:14:55):
So, um, we've got so first we got a switch to is
this the leak for, or the otherrumor around, red dead
redemption 2 coming.

Brandon Hurles (02:15:06):
Well, that was that was one of them.
Yeah, what was kind ofinteresting about that is that
it's rumored so that game runs.
I don't know if you know that,but it runs at 30 FPS on console
.

Mark Trobough (02:15:19):
I haven't played it in years.
I mean, it came out on the PS4,Xbox One era, so that wouldn't
surprise me too much.

Brandon Hurles (02:15:24):
Yeah, it runs at 30 FPS, so it so rumored to be
coming to switch to running at60 frames per second, um, which
is, I mean, I seems, too good tobe true.
If it's running on consoles at30, I would expect it to run at
30 I want to say that to anextent that I'm like 60 frames

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is nothing, now, like I don'tlike to be fair.

Mark Trobough (02:15:47):
If this is equivalent to the console it
came out on, which is ps4, I'dexpect it to run equivalent to
the ps4, which is if it'srunning at 30 fps.

Brandon Hurles (02:15:53):
It's probably what you're gonna get on this
the only thing I'll say to thatis that ps4 didn't have dlss,
which is going to boost framerate don't know how much that
does and how optimized the gameis.

Mark Trobough (02:16:06):
I wouldn't hang your hat that you're gonna get
an extra 30 frames just on DLSSalone well, we also got a
rumored, speculated release datefor May 2024.

Brandon Hurles (02:16:26):
So I mean, I said April, you said May, if I
remember correctly from lastweek, right?

Mark Trobough (02:16:32):
May makes sense if they're going to announce it
this month.
If they don't announce it thismonth, may Realistically you
want probably sold six months,you need to sell it.
Six months of promo fromannouncement to release.
I just think anything less isjust not Like.
Three months is not enough timeto properly promo this console
from announcement to releaseyeah, I mean I don't know, may

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make sense that they talk aboutit four months, but I mean six
months is ideal is ideal, forsure, like you need.
We won't know for sure untilthey come out announce it.

Brandon Hurles (02:17:03):
So then we got a tweets uh, uh, no, this is
about the backward compatibility.
And then we got a tweet no,this was about the backward
compatibility, so we know aboutthat.
So that's some old news there.
Okay, so here is some of thebig stuff that popped up just
today, or yesterday, I guess,technically Japan time.

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Accessory manufacturer Genkirecently posted the most
plausible and extensive look atthe Nintendo Switch 2 yet, so
you can look this up.
The Genki um accessory maker,uh, which has also leaked stuff
before in the past.
No surprise, uh, genki postedum extensive look at the

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Nintendo Switch 2.
The accessory manufacturerquietly launched a new page on
its website typing up its Switch2 products, which shows what
Nintendo's next consolesupposedly looks like via a
convincing mock-up.
Nintendo Switch news has heatedup in recent weeks as bits and
pieces of it has supposedlyleaked via production line

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photos.
So, yeah, I mean, mean, basedon like what they're showing, um
, very plausible, verybelievable, it's pretty much
what I would expect the switchto to look like, I mean slightly
bigger.

Mark Trobough (02:18:23):
It's a slightly altered switch.

Brandon Hurles (02:18:25):
Yeah yeah, slightly altered.
Nothing's changed dramatically.
You've got a bigger screen.
Um, this is what I imagine itlooking like, and if they're
showing rendered photos fortheir products they're designing
ahead of time to sell right atlaunch.
I mean, it kind of makes senseif you ask me.

(02:18:46):
So that definitely makes sense.
And then, according toCentroLeaks, a popular source
for Pokemon related rumors, thenext-gen Switch will have a 12GB
RAM and 256GB internal storageshout out.

Mark Trobough (02:19:10):
Matt Long said he had to go, so hey, have a good
weekend, man.

Brandon Hurles (02:19:13):
Yeah, thanks for hanging out.
We appreciate it.
So that's a big jump over the 4gigabytes of RAM in the Switch.
1.
Yeah, come with an 8-inchdisplay, hdmi 2.1 support, so
that means it'll support VRR andall that jazz.
Uh, two usbc supports, magneticcontroller attachments,

(02:19:36):
upgraded sl, sl and sr buttons,dual cooling fans, a socl cpu
and GPU GMLX30RA1, whatever thatmeans.
And then a few other specs thatI'm not sure what they mean,
but it will also include agigabit Ethernet chip.

(02:19:59):
So that confirms basically ourport there.
So if it supports gigabitInternet.
My assumption is yes, they aregoing to want this to be a more
accessible online multiplayermachine too.

Mark Trobough (02:20:15):
Well, it also pretty much just guarantees that
it's going to have a wiredconnection.
It's going to actually have aproper Ethernet port on the
docked version.
You're not getting gigabit onWi-Fi, you're not coming in
anywhere close to it no way, noway.

Brandon Hurles (02:20:30):
And even if you were going to come close to it,
that means you have a reallyexpensive Wi-Fi router, yeah,
yeah, but even then, even with,I mean, I've looked at like $800
Wi-Fi routers and you're stilllooking at like, running at like
I mean it's good, but like 600megabits per second versus like,
like I said, plugged in.
I was just checking like I'mrunning 910 upload, 920 download

(02:20:53):
plugged in.
I mean that's, that's a 300megabits per second.
It's a pretty big difference.
So you're spending 800 on arouter.
I say just plug it in.

Mark Trobough (02:21:04):
That's how I feel that that's also taking into
account how much of your defaultinternet, how good your
internet that you're gettinganyway, is.

Brandon Hurles (02:21:11):
Yeah, true, true , true.
And then so I'm trying to find,because I saw this.
This was a GameStop leak.
See if I can find it real quick, because we don't have it on
our notes yeah, it's like Ididn't.

Mark Trobough (02:21:33):
I didn't see that at all so well, supposedly in
their system.

Brandon Hurles (02:21:37):
Um, okay, so here it is.
Nintendo stays completelysilent amid flood of switch 2
leaks at gamestop and cs 2025.
So basically, this has to dowith the.
Are you aware of the new MicroSD card Expresses?
They are essentially theequivalent of an SSD.

Mark Trobough (02:22:02):
They run at speeds of an.

Brandon Hurles (02:22:03):
SSD, so they're new.
So this supposedly their systempopped up with a bunch of.
You can look at the imagesonline.
There's a bunch of websites.
Just type it in, just game stop, switch to 50 articles popped
up.
But uh, basically it popped upwith the new micro SD card
expresses that are running atSSD like speed.

(02:22:27):
So there's essentially no loadtimes in these.
So they're still going to usemicroSD cards, but they're a new
, a recently released microSDcard that run at very high
speeds that are meant for theSwitch 2 and 4 gaming rather
than, you know, like yourstandard microSD card.
So that leaked across theirsystem.

(02:22:50):
It was up for not very longafter somebody took that picture
and showed it in the system.
Obviously they probably got aphone call from nintendo and it
got taken down and it wasflooded with a bunch of like,
fake like listings for yeah whatwas going to be the switch to
stuff.
Um, so that was basically sayingthis included a micro sd card

(02:23:10):
and 256 gigabyte, 512 gigabyteconfigurations, and as well as
the dedicated joy-con chargergrip for the switch to, so not
just the regular one, the onethat has the usb-c connection
port for the uh, yeah, make itactual controller.
Um, so, yeah, that happened aswell.

(02:23:30):
Um, yeah, there's a bunch ofswitch to, so I know that we're
missing stuff, because there'sso much that's coming out that
it's very hard to keep up, likeyou've got to really be on on
the ball and it's.
It's definitely, uh, uh,definitely hard.
Uh, it looks like, uh, texasosu tied up 14 nice mark loves

(02:23:54):
that thanks for letting us know.
Uh, all right, so next we've got.
I know you're gonna be a littlebit disappointed about this one
mark oh, yeah, completely sasscreed shadows.
Oh yeah, completely.
Assassin's Creed Shadows getsdelayed again to March 20th 2025
.
Here's their full publicstatement.

(02:24:14):
Dear players, we want to extendour heartfelt thanks to our
incredible fans and dedicatedteams for your unwavering favor,
unwavering support since ourannouncement in September to
further refine and polish thisgame.
Since november, we've beenthrilled to share our progress
through gameplay overviews, andthe overwhelming excitement has

(02:24:37):
truly inspired us.
Each week has brought valuablefeedback from our community.
While we've already maderemarkable strides, we believe a
few additional weeks are neededto implement the feedback and
ensure an even more ambitiousand engaging day one experience.
Accordingly, the new releasedate is March 20th 2025.

(02:24:57):
We remain committed todelivering a high quality,
immersive experience, fosteredby ongoing dialogue between our
players and development teams.
We know you're eager to learnmore about Assassin's Creed
Shadows and we're excited toshare that.
More updates will be comingyour way very soon.
Mark Alexis Cote, on behalf ofall teams working on Assassin's

(02:25:21):
Creed Shadows.

Mark Trobough (02:25:23):
All I heard was a bunch of PR slotting.
They didn't say anything otherthan the game's delayed for
another month because, well, wesuck at game development game.
This means when this game wassupposed to launch, it would
have launched in an absolutemess of a state.
If they essentially need, likeanother six months of
development time on this game,well, there is there.

Brandon Hurles (02:25:41):
There is some uh fun to come out of this uh this
is a rip on on ubisoft more.
Domino's Pizza.
This is official too.
You can look this up.
Domino's Pizza replied to theirtweets and said call us if you
need help delivering on time.

Mark Trobough (02:26:02):
That's a pretty good burn.
I'm not going to lie.

Brandon Hurles (02:26:03):
That's really good, but then Ubisoft replied.
God, I didn't save the replyfrom ubisoft.
Uh oh yeah, on on x uhassassin's creed.
The account said altar, waitingfor his pizza since 1257.

Game Junction (02:26:23):
It shows him dead oh I, I don't think I love when
companies have nothing to dowith anything related to it yeah
, they rip on them like hardcore, but to be fair.

Mark Trobough (02:26:37):
You see this and you're like I don't.
Based off what happened withthe, with Dragon Age, which I
thought was gonna sell a lotbetter, I wouldn't be surprised.
This game, you know, strugglesto sell and it just becomes like
the death of Ubisoft as youknow it.
Yeah, if this game struggles tosell and it just becomes like
the death of Ubisoft as you knowit, if this game doesn't sell,
well, that's three games thatsold terrible within a year and

(02:26:58):
that's not good.

Brandon Hurles (02:27:01):
Yeah, I mean I said it before the show, but I
think this is either a nail inthe coffin for ubisoft or this
is a okay launch and people likeit and all the issues were, you
know kind of whateverdevelopment.

Mark Trobough (02:27:21):
The problem is, I'm curious how many people,
kind of like dragon age, havealready written this game off
and they just have zero interestin it, regardless of what it
does.

Brandon Hurles (02:27:28):
I mean, I've pretty much written it off and
the thing is it sucks is that Ilike the era, I like samurai
games like this is theAssassin's Creed that I would
want, like the time period butthere's better games that have
come out recently and there'sanother game that's gonna come
out in the same era.
Yeah, yotai is coming out, soI'm like I don't really care.

Mark Trobough (02:27:46):
Ghost of Tsushima just does it and it's a stealth
game that feels more stealthy.
Rise of.

Brandon Hurles (02:27:52):
Ronin, which I still gotta play.
I've got that and I haven'tplayed that yet and that's
supposedly pretty good, and soI'm like not like there's other
games to play, but it's like.

Mark Trobough (02:28:05):
I'm a mom.
This game is like a decade toolate, realistically.
I don't know if it decade toolate realistically.
I don't know if it's too late,but Other people have come in
and filled this void with goodgames.
The problem is it's got othergames Like.
Ghost of Tsushima.
Is such a good game Like.
Will this game be better thanthat, Both narratively and the
way the game plays itessentially does Assassin's

(02:28:28):
Creed better that effect?
You have the, the other slotthat ubisoft has in their game,
which is a point direction likeoh, a icon, a thought on their
map or whatever you want to callit like all the towers way too
many, way too many points ofinterest, way too many.

Brandon Hurles (02:28:41):
You know, map uh , tower unlocks and stuff like
that's kind of like a pain,that's like a staple of all
their games I feel like this isnot going to do anywhere near as
good as valhalla did, because,regardless of uh, I mean, I
enjoyed the game.
I thought valhalla was great.
You, you didn't really valhalla.

Mark Trobough (02:28:56):
Valhalla also had I didn't care for it.
It also had zero drama, unlikethis game I like I like the
whole viking theme too.

Brandon Hurles (02:29:03):
So just like the , the samurai stuff I I like the
, the theme of it and but.
But the problem with it waswhere there was too much going
on.
Like I love a, I love an openworld game, I that's like, but
there can be too many things todo at times.

Mark Trobough (02:29:19):
The world could be way too packed yeah, that's
what I feel like last playingodyssey nothing but crap all
over.
It's like like, oh, so I'm hereto do it.
It's like, oh, there's a millionthings to do, but there's
really not a lot to do, it'sjust filler content to some
degree yeah, it can be a problemand, to be fair, the last two
games we stopped put out, putout have been, were subpar in

(02:29:40):
outlaws and uh and skull andbones.
It very doesn't not leave anyconfidence that this game it's
just gonna play better thanthose games so yeah, it doesn't
leave.

Brandon Hurles (02:29:51):
It doesn't leave much confidence for sure.
Uh, mr coffee said the gamelaunches any bugs or glitches.
The game is going to be roasted.

Mark Trobough (02:29:58):
There's blood in the water and a lot of people
are circling it looking for anysocial media content is just
waiting for this game to dosomething wrong and they're
going to jump all over like that.
That's that's what.
That's what a lot of gamingcontent is, but then again the
industry's, you know teed thatup for people to just go after
them.

Brandon Hurles (02:30:14):
So it's kind of like a a problem of their own
making uh, personally, I thinkthe game is going to have a huge
problem being soldinternationally.
Yeah, I don't know, man, I meanlike it used to be, this is how
it used to be.
It used to be, man, I mean likeit used to be, this is how it
used to be.
It used to be all dutyassassin's creed, like any other
game, had to schedule theirgame around those games.

(02:30:35):
Do you remember that?

Mark Trobough (02:30:36):
yeah, like those were the big games, those were
that's like you're talking 360era games and then that that era
of game.

Brandon Hurles (02:30:42):
Like you did not want your game launching the
same week that a call of duty ora assassin's creed was
launching.

Mark Trobough (02:30:50):
Because it was so , or even like a madden, or like
a fifa or something like that,because regardless, those games
still sold, sold yeah yeah, yeah, I mean it's, uh, it's, it's
definitely gone downhill.

Brandon Hurles (02:31:02):
And then, like we've already got confirmation
that they're remaking black flag, and then Yakuza is very openly
making their version of BlackFlag too, which could do it
better.

Mark Trobough (02:31:14):
I'll say this to the bear.
Remakes can do well, but whenyou re-release a game, it's just
never going to sell the same asit did the first time.

Brandon Hurles (02:31:25):
I think they realized.

Mark Trobough (02:31:26):
It might be good, but it's a coat of paint on an
old game and people see that.
So only hardcore fans arereally going to go after a Black
Flag remake compared to if youhad a brand new game.

Brandon Hurles (02:31:38):
I think they realize too now that Black Flag
was probably peak.

Mark Trobough (02:31:43):
Assassin's Creed.
They did peak there.

Brandon Hurles (02:31:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think it was arguably, while not
my favorite, probably my secondfavorite because I liked that
how a lot it had.
It had its issues and blackflag had its issues too, like
some performance stuff.
But I think that arguablyamongst the fans, like black
flag is easily the the top gamefor the franchise.
Yeah, um, so I think that Ithink that, like a dragon doing

(02:32:09):
what it's doing and being veryopenly saying, oh, skull and
bones, completely failed attaking the concept, we'll step
into that we'll step in we makegood games doesn't have and it
doesn't have this baggage andthis and this bad reputation
that ubisoft as a whole is isbuilt.

Mark Trobough (02:32:24):
People are just gonna be like, oh, I'll just get
that game instead, I don't needa remake which I'm, I'm, I'm
like legitimately really excitedfor that, like a dragon because
, let's be fair, I've got theremake going back.
Going back and played old gamesare fun, but you do.
You want to play a new gamewith a new experience sometimes,
so new games are always goingto do better than than remakes,

(02:32:44):
like it's just a reality, likeif you had to pick between those
games like well, I play thisgame, this is new it's got a new
take on it.
Let me, let me give it a.

Brandon Hurles (02:32:52):
Give it a shot it's got to be a re like a
remake, not not a glorifiedremaster like it's.
It's got to be, you know, likewhen I say remake I mean things
like like final fantasy, 7,rebirth or games like 20 25
years old where, where, where,no, it's not just like a you

(02:33:13):
know a beat for beat remake,where it's like, no, we're doing
new things to these games likeubisoft is gonna do new stuff
when that game there's gonnathat's new code of paint, ship
it out the door.

Mark Trobough (02:33:24):
I mean, like are we even going to make it?

Brandon Hurles (02:33:26):
to a black flag remake, because if this doesn't
do well like I don't thisdoesn't spell good news.
We saw that the the Star Warsoutlaw stuff really did them in
Like that was not good.
What a mess that was I mean tobe fair.

Mark Trobough (02:33:42):
It really started with skull and bones.
It was not what people wanted.

Brandon Hurles (02:33:44):
Come out and say a quadruple, a game, make up
your own term like are you anproblem was?

Mark Trobough (02:33:51):
you were expecting a, a, a more in-depth
black flag and you got a, a barebones black flag like that's so
much you can't do.
It's like, how did you look atthis and say, yeah, they love
black flag, they'll absolutelylove this game?
You don't even do it, it's justlike a simulator.
If, if, anything else.

Brandon Hurles (02:34:08):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Escalated Friends said I loveold games too.
I mean I do too.
But yeah, you look at theindustry as a whole.

Mark Trobough (02:34:17):
I mean, most people want to play new games
and have new experiences.
Yeah, I'm talking more justindustry trends as a whole.

Brandon Hurles (02:34:25):
All right, what do we got next, Mark?

Mark Trobough (02:34:28):
This is one of the things that we talked about.
Uh, because I haven't we haveno idea how this is going to
affect uh, gaming long term uh,but the essentially the
department, the us department ofdefense came out and declared
tencent a chinese militarycompany, essentially, which then
adds blacklisting to thatcompany for certain things.

(02:34:51):
So this could have forcompanies that Tencent's
invested in, could havepotential long-term effects.
As far as you know, eithercertain studios are not allowed
to do certain things in the US,or certain you know investments
like Tencent's not allowed toinvest in certain companies and
stuff like that, or potentially,tencent products might not be
allowed to be sold in the us orin other companies.

Game Junction (02:35:14):
Uh, tencent so this is because this came out,
this came out yeah, I think yeah, or any any chinese game.

Mark Trobough (02:35:21):
Tencent has their fingers and this this came out
on the sixth and this is how.
We have no idea what this isthe the the potential
ramifications of this are goingto be Because I'm not going to
go into it, but obviously therewas a presidential election
about to have a new presidentcome into office in the US and
stuff like that but if somethinglike this was to be permanent,

(02:35:41):
it could cause ripples in theindustry Because Tencent's a
massive company and they havetheir hands in a lot of games,
studios and stuff like that.
This is just one of thosethings where it's like to watch.
We were talking about beforethe whole TikTok stuff.
If that goes forward, that'sgoing to have impacts and stuff

(02:36:02):
like that moving forward.
If it gets banned off of mobilestores and stuff like that, this
could have potentially the samething and stuff like that.
This could have a potentially,you know, the same thing and
stuff like that.
So I think it's it's and thenin the immediate, it has zero
impact, but in two years if thiswas the like stay and stuff
like that or there's, you know,opinions change this could have
a very interesting impacts onthe game, game industry, yeah,

(02:36:24):
even just from a funding aspect.
So it's you know it'll beinteresting to watch and see.
It's kind of where I was at onthat.

Brandon Hurles (02:36:31):
I still don't quite understand how.

Mark Trobough (02:36:36):
None of us do.
Well, the idea is it's aTencent's more than just a game.
They're like an IT industryessentially, but they deal with
games.
Tencent Gaming is like a subsetof the Tencent.
So the idea is, you know, theUS government, the DOD, sees

(02:36:56):
them as you know, an adversaryor a company that's directly
controlled or helps an adversary.
So we are just going toblacklist you as a whole.
We don't want you doingbusiness or limiting what you
can and can't do with UScompanies, because we see you as
a liability, potential,potential threat to to what we
do.
But how, how this actuallyaffects the, the average
everyday user I've got, I haveno idea.

(02:37:18):
Yeah, because obviously they'regoing to try to, they're going
to go after this and be like Idon't know why you're doing this
, take us off this, thisblacklist, uh.
But I I just think it's it's aninteresting thing because we do
know tencent's a massive uh, aplayer in the games world.

Brandon Hurles (02:37:33):
So watching this moving forward will be really
interesting to to see yeah, I'lldefinitely definitely be
interested to to see thedevelopment of this, because
it's I don't really know what toto say or kind of think of it,
because it's kind of hardbecause we don't really know
it's what right, how this isreally going to impact stuff
like this just happened.

Mark Trobough (02:37:51):
But you're talking about stuff that you're
doing with government, so stuffmoves slow, yeah.
But I mean you talk about thetiktok thing.
That's like a whole that thingtook like two years to be to be
implemented.
That's like yeah, at the end ofthis month, that goes into play.
If it doesn't, you know, getoverturned.
So right, right it'll.
It'll be interesting to see howthis has an impact as well.
As you know how much of a, howmuch are they really investing

(02:38:11):
in and like say, you know us,you know gaming communities and
stuff like that, do they?
They have like a big player,nintendo, sony and stuff like
that.
It'd be interesting to see ifthey have to, like you know, you
know they can't do certainthings with companies.
You know they're, they're a bigfunder.
That could affect some of thesecompanies as well.
So yeah, absolutely for surethis will be something you know

(02:38:34):
as we move into, like later in2025 and 2026 it'll be.
It'll be interesting to see howthat actually has potential
long term effects yeah, Idefinitely interested to see
what what happens of this.

Brandon Hurles (02:38:47):
I mean I you know, I don't really know what
to say at this point, but I mean, some something's gonna happen
for sure, so all right, lookslike yeah, sorry, escalate.

Mark Trobough (02:38:57):
That's.
That's for for me to know andnobody else to know what is it?
We're not not directly talkingpolitics.

Brandon Hurles (02:39:03):
This just happened.
Yeah, we don't, we don't, wedon't do all that we're not
going down the road, it just so.

Mark Trobough (02:39:08):
Hats while hats was being vague.
It just so happens, it's just,it's the topic overlaps.
So yeah, um, but yeah, I'm not.
I'm not going down that routeno, thanks.

Brandon Hurles (02:39:18):
Uh, so we got.
Apparently xbox next generationconsole has been confirmed will
be the largest technical leapin a hardware generation.
So it says Xbox is not exitingthe hardware market anytime soon
.
As the company announced, ithas a multi-year roadmap that
includes a next-generation Xboxin the future.

(02:39:38):
So they say yeah, so they say.
During the latest episode of theofficial Xbox podcast focusing
on the future business ofMicrosoft's gaming arm, xbox
president Sarah Bond yuckaddressed the role hardware
plays in Xbox's future.
Bond concurred with an earlierstatement by Xbox head Phil

(02:39:58):
Spencer that Xbox hardware wouldremain the flagship experience
for players, despite thecompany's plans to go
multi-platform moving forward.
Bond teased Xbox has someexciting stuff coming out in
hardware that the company plansto share, multi-platform moving
forward.
Bond teased Xbox has someexciting stuff coming out in
hardware that the company plansto share this holiday.
More interestingly, bond teaseda roadmap focused on
next-generation hardware andthis is a quote and what we are

(02:40:22):
focused on there is deliveringthe largest technical leap you
will ever have seen in ahardware generation, which makes
it better for players andbetter for creators and the
visions they're building.
Bond explained in the recentepisode of the official Xbox
podcast, although Bond didspecify that this hardware news
would entail leaked documentspublished last year revealed

(02:40:46):
that Microsoft is planning tolaunch hardware refreshes for
both the Xbox Series S and sorry, xbox Series X and S this year.
So this is talking about, asfar as the refresh, not the big

(02:41:07):
hardware jump for the nextgeneration, but the project
brooklyn, which we knew about.
We've talked about, I think,probably two or three times um
the adorably all digital xbox.
Um, uh, this is a sphere likexbox that has no disk drive and,

(02:41:29):
no, no place for a disk driveattachment you know what?

Mark Trobough (02:41:34):
uh, sorry, I just want to say you know what would
be better, instead of callingit like take, take a, take a um,
a cue from what this?
I don't remember what uh serialcompany did, but it's like it's
instead of a con, the the cute,it's like oops, all digital
xbox, like that.
That'd be some good advertising.

Brandon Hurles (02:41:50):
I'm not gonna lie you know what's crazy man is
that?
Um, and I bought it ahead oftime.
So I I I bought it before I gotthe ps5 pro.
I already knew I wanted thatbecause I have such a a massive
uh physical ps5 library like I'm.
If I can buy it physical, I buyit physical.
The disc drives for the ps5 proare still selling out

(02:42:13):
consistently, like they're stillpeople want the physical,
because nobody wants this alldigital console that's the crazy
thing.
Like what are they not getting?
I mean, playstation has to begetting the message.

Mark Trobough (02:42:26):
The hey, these can't be kept in stock anywhere.

Brandon Hurles (02:42:29):
They're being scalped and sold on ebay for for
high prices and I don't.

Mark Trobough (02:42:35):
We don't care what you want.
People want that like if you go, if you go full, next console.
There's no physical disk drivelike this just kind of proves
there's gonna be massivebacklash.

Brandon Hurles (02:42:43):
People are not unhappy with it at that point I
feel like a lot of people arejust gonna end up moving to pc
because I mean, that's like, ifI'm gonna go all digital anyways
, I might as well just buy a pcright.

Mark Trobough (02:42:53):
At the very least you can get, you know, games
for dirt cheap yeah, I don'tknow.

Brandon Hurles (02:43:00):
I mean this the project brooklyn supposed,
supposedly supposed to launch atthe 500 price point, which is
how much a Series X is, and besubstantially more.
It says Brooklyn will deliver4K Gen 9 console gaming with
more internal storage, fasterWi-Fi, reduced power, more

(02:43:21):
immersive controller and abeautiful redesign that elevates
the all-digital experience ofthe Xbox ecosystem.
Reduced PSU power by 15%.
New low-power standby mode is20% of current.
Increased use of PCR housing to30% and then 100% recyclable
packaging.
I don't even know.

(02:43:43):
I mean like it's good news thatthey're saying they're not
dropping out of the hardwaregame, because I don't think
that's good, not yet.
But I mean Things change withthese companies so quick that
it's like it's so hard to tell.
I mean even Nintendo.

(02:44:04):
These companies lie all thetime.

Mark Trobough (02:44:08):
They're not going to come out and tell you.
Until they will.
It's on their timetable,because they came out and said
that now like nintendo has beennotorious for that too.

Brandon Hurles (02:44:18):
All these companies have just straight up
lied to us and it, you know,they're not going to tell us all
their plans.
So it's like I don't know.
Like I, I hope that they don'tcompletely drop out of the
hardware game because, like Isaid, that leaves, you know,
very little competition in the,the console space.
Um, when it comes to just being, if it were, just nintendo and

(02:44:42):
and just sony, like I, there'sno, to me that's not a
competition because, please, Imean Nintendo kind of stands on
its own to me.
Um, yeah, and I don't thinkthey're trying to.
They're they're obviously nottrying to directly compete with
the PS five pro or or the PS sixwhen that comes out.

(02:45:04):
They're not, they're not tryingto they're doing their own
thing.
They've got a hybrid console.
Nobody else is doing that rightnow.

Mark Trobough (02:45:11):
I'm sure there's playstation portal, sure xbox is
it those are kind of like, uhlike, half-assed, you know,
attempts at the at that.

Brandon Hurles (02:45:20):
Like I do think the xbox handheld is going to be
a big deal because I meanwhenever they actually I mean
they did confirm it um, yeah,and I think, but are they going
to go the affordable route?
Or they'd be like, oh, this isno, I think they're going to go
the high-end route.

Mark Trobough (02:45:35):
I think they're going to go the high end, which
limits the amount of people thatare actually going to go that
route because, nintendo is notgoing to go that higher.
Yeah, I can't imagine themcharging five, six hundred
dollars for a hand.

Brandon Hurles (02:45:43):
I feel like they're going to try to surpass
the asus roguelite x and wealready know that asus roguelite
2 is on the way.
So and then the lenovo, whichwe're getting ready to hit up
the ces announcements, but wealready know that there's a new
lenovo handheld coming out whichis very, very powerful, also
very expensive.

(02:46:03):
Um, so they're targeting likethe high route is my assumption
with with, with Xbox, that's.
That's because they did thesame thing with series X for a
while.
So the PS five pro came out.
It was.
It was the more powerfulconsole technically, you know,
specs wise, it was just justbarely more powerful console,
and they've always been thecompany that wants to be the

(02:46:26):
more powerful console.
But like, at the end of the day, if you don't have games, that
doesn't mean crap.

Mark Trobough (02:46:31):
Yeah, that's the problem.
The first party game selectionis why nobody's buying your
console.

Brandon Hurles (02:46:36):
Like sure you can have a powerful console, but
if you don't have the games toplay on it, then what's the
point?
You know?
So I don't know, but I guesswe're going to jump into the the
CES stuff here.
There's a lot that gotannounced there.
I'm trying to scroll throughwhat was the Lenovo Legion Go S

(02:46:59):
brings SteamOS outside of theSteam Deck, which is really,
really cool, I think, actually avery smart move.
If you ask me, to be able toplay all your steam games on a
handheld is more powerful thansteam deck, steam deck oled,
which we do know that steam deck2 is coming out, but that valve
is is allowing these companiesto be able to run their their

(02:47:23):
operating system on these otherhandhelds.
I think it's a very smart move.
Um, well, I think it's just.

Mark Trobough (02:47:28):
It's just.
It keeps them in their ownecosystem and it benefits them,
because Valve's been in thesoftware space for forever.
Yeah, for a very long timeBecause, even if it's not their
hardware, well, you're buyingproducts on their platform,
which directly profits thembecause they get like a 30% cut
on stuff on their platforms.
So why not run your operatingsystem that just keeps people in

(02:47:49):
the Steam ecosystem.

Brandon Hurles (02:47:51):
Yeah, it says, announced during CES, this will
be the first gaming handheld notfrom Valve to use SteamOS.
It'll have Windows versions too, but starting in May you'll be
able to get it with theoperating system I love so much.
Even better, it does look tooffer specs, with a slight to
moderate improvement on theSteam Deck and its starting
price of $500.

(02:48:12):
So this is a mid-range handheldOTC, because Ace of Rogue Ally,
I think, is like almost $800.

Mark Trobough (02:48:21):
Yeah, that's like the high end pretty much.
You're getting close to $1,000.
Yeah, I think eventually youneed different tiers.
You need these handhelds tocome down in price if you want
to sell more of them like closer, like the five, six hundred
dollar range.
Eventually, especially the morethese are out, the cheaper the
technology becomes and you canjust have a lower and a higher
end tier, essentially yeah, forsure.

Brandon Hurles (02:48:42):
And then we got like it let's be fair, it's.

Mark Trobough (02:48:44):
It's a handheld.
There's some trade-off goingfrom like a pc to a handheld.
You expect that you just needthe the average consumer one, to
be far more affordable.

Brandon Hurles (02:48:52):
Yeah, for sure, For sure, We've got.
So we've got the Acer NitroBlaze 11, which is the biggest
gaming handheld, it says.
While it means it's notnecessarily the most convenient,

(02:49:12):
there's a certain maximal joyto being able to carry it around
With so much room.
It's packing some impressivespecs, but what really takes the
cake is its 11-inch display,2560 by 1600 display.
It gets bright, comes with asturdy kickstand and it can
display up to 120 frames persecond.
It's also surprisinglylightweight at 2.3 pounds.

(02:49:34):
That's a pound heavier than thesteam deck, but compared to a
laptop it's still reasonable.

Mark Trobough (02:49:41):
So that well, I mean, you're not, you're not
holding like a laptop, that'slike the one thing that, like
that screen is massive for ahandheld that's the point where
it's starting to becomeimpractical.
As hard, but without big, it islike after a while it's not
easy to transport.
What's the?
What's the point?

Brandon Hurles (02:49:57):
Yeah, that's a.
That's a big screen dude.

Mark Trobough (02:50:01):
Yeah, I'm like I don't know, that might be just
too for a handheld.
Well, it's only two pieces, butsometimes it's just bulky and
you just want something that'ssmaller.

Brandon Hurles (02:50:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's.

Mark Trobough (02:50:15):
Say what you want about the Switch.
It's not overly bulky.

Brandon Hurles (02:50:20):
It's about the size that you want.
Yeah, I think the Switch 2 isgoing to do it about right,
where you get a little bit,because I could use a little bit
more of a screen.
You know what I mean.

Mark Trobough (02:50:29):
like slightly bigger you can.
You'd expect it to be a littlebigger but upgrade the hardware
and stuff.
But yeah, you don't wantsomething that becomes, you know
, something that's not that's.
You want something easy thatyou can throw in like a bag or a
backpack and carry around forsure.

Brandon Hurles (02:50:42):
I mean we're, we're past the game boy.
Well, you got like thechromatic and the uh analog
pocket stuff for those actuallike pocket size little
handhelds and stuff how manypeople play on a on a phone and
it doesn't have the biggestscreen, but it's.

Mark Trobough (02:50:57):
It's big enough to do what you need to need on
it.
Yeah, I mean a lot, a lot ofjust optimizing your games to
work on a screen of that sizeinstead of like a tv yeah, yeah,
for sure.

Brandon Hurles (02:51:10):
Um well, do we have anything else that you
wanted to bring up for for thisweek?

Mark Trobough (02:51:15):
no, I think we've .
Uh good, I mean, it's been awhile so we've hit.

Brandon Hurles (02:51:18):
You know, you know, close to three hours so
yeah, there's just so much totalk about appreciate all the
193 people that are still inhere hanging out with us.

Mark Trobough (02:51:25):
Yeah, we ran it early on for like a half hour on
some random stuff, so that thatdidn't help but it keeps the
podcast interesting.

Brandon Hurles (02:51:33):
Yeah, it was a good episode though.
I enjoyed it.
Good stuff.

Mark Trobough (02:51:36):
Yeah, there was just a lot to talk about this
week, so yeah, appreciate it.

Brandon Hurles (02:51:40):
We, we really appreciate everybody tuning in
and hanging out.
I know that you know most ofyou aren't chatting there on the
the X side a lot of peoplethere, um, which is really cool
to see.
You know, with uh trying outrestream.
We wanted to see how it wasagain for a month to see if you
know be anything any different.
It seems like uh seems like agood way to go.

(02:52:00):
Now I, I it seems a little bitdifferent than what do we got
coming up.

Mark Trobough (02:52:09):
I'm not sure.
To be honest, I've had a lot ofother stuff that's preventing
me from doing anything.

Brandon Hurles (02:52:16):
Tomorrow we're streaming Marvel Rivals.
I do know that 8 pm EasternStandard Time Anime Junction
cast.
Is that coming out Sunday still?

Mark Trobough (02:52:27):
It should.
It delayed a whole week but Ihad other stuff like that
prevented me from doing stuff ongetting that, getting that out
on time.
So other than that, I don'thave a whole lot because, well,
my, my, my work life you heardit here first marks canceling
the anime junction cast no, no.
But hey, other than the otherthing we're back to, we're ahead

(02:52:47):
an episode again, just becauseI was delayed on getting the
other one out.

Brandon Hurles (02:52:50):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know we're going to be
talking about some Gundams.
So I'm kind of excited aboutthat, because it's been a while
with Gundam for me, so I'malways excited to check out or
revisit, you know, some of theseand check out some of the new
stuff as well and stuff likethat.
So we do, uh, you know, we kindof cover a little bit of a

(02:53:13):
little bit of everything, Ithink so.

Mark Trobough (02:53:15):
Wait on next week to where I can finally start.
You know it'll be new, it'll beepisode three, but it'll be a
new episode of soul leveling forme.

Brandon Hurles (02:53:20):
So well but, I and watch the original Godzilla,
because I think we need to tryto film that at some point this
week.
It's going to take us one hour.
I mean I'm sure we can fit inan hour somewhere to film it.
One hour Talk about the movie.
That'll be our first episode.
So, yeah, plan on doing that.

(02:53:42):
And then, yeah, I'm not sure,video-wise, I've been behind as
well.
Unfortunately, work's beenreally, really busy.
We had all the stuff with SnowDaughter being home, so I've
just not, I've not had a chanceto even film anything yet.
I don't have a script oranything.
I don't know what I'm filmingyet.
So something will be out soon,but I just don't know what yet.

(02:54:04):
So, unfortunately, I've alsobeen behind getting a video out
on YouTube.
But, you know, hopefully thestreaming and the podcasting and
stuff makes up for that and allthat.
So, uh, and then, you know,every Monday I put out stream
schedule.
Unfortunately, Mark um is notgoing to be streaming every
Sunday now, Um, so we'll justplan on if he can fill something

(02:54:25):
in or whatever.
Do a pop-up stream or somethinglike that.
Maybe you can do that.
And uh, and then I'm, I'm goingto attempt to to try to do, you
know a stream here and therethrough the week.
I just again.
For me it's like I know day oftypically so that sucks so but
hey it, you know, using restreamand stuff now too with it might

(02:54:48):
not be so bad.
So it might might be the way togo.
Got to make sure you're you'resigned in and good to go.
Like you do a pop-up stream foran hour or something like that.
It shouldn't be too hard to do.
So try to do that and stuffhere and there.
But uh, yeah, again, um, like Isaid Now we'll be live tomorrow

(02:55:10):
, uh, stream Marvel rivals 8 PMEastern standard time, and then
for our audio listeners, we arelive with the podcast every
Friday at 8 PM Eastern standardtime, as well as a stream of
something every single Saturday,uh, same time.
So appreciate everybodywatching.
Hope everybody has a greatnight and we'll see you all
later.
Peace.
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