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That's why your tagline likeaccidentally drifted my canoe,
between a sow and a cub, andshe's like charged and like hit.
Hit like the back of the canoe,his head hit the ground before
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his ass did.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Begging, begging and
crying to go with my grandfather
, go with my father on thesedeer drives.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know, the last
trip over I shot a great Cape,
Buffalo, with my bow chargingthrough the grass and then the
whooping.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And then you hear a
body drop.
What's up, boys?
Well, we're back for, I think,field Notes 11, and it's going
to be exciting one, because ourboy did it again.
Well, actually, no, squatch didit right before, got it done
with the bow, and then, you know, frank with with the gun.
Uh, so this is going to be agood one.
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So you know we'll, we'll startwith'll.
We'll start with.
You know we'll start withSquatch.
I mean, how else, last daybefore the rifle season starts,
to get it with the bow, um, toput some meat in the freezer, to
to get it done?
You've been working hard, allyou know, all year, and
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everything like that.
How, how's it feel, brother?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, it's, uh, it's
a good feeling.
Anytime you shoot a deer with abow it's always good and it was
a quick, clean kill.
The deer only went 20 yards.
It was a perfect, hard shot.
I got him in at 10 yards andlet him have it, and it happened
in an instant.
It was 11 o'clock in the morningand I heard some noise to my
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left.
I looked and he was comingright down the run that I have
in between the two thickets.
He was cruising for does and Ilooked at him and I said, hmm,
okay, I'm going to take him.
It's the last day.
I said tomorrow starts rifleseason here in New York.
I said it's time.
So I didn't even I didn't, youknow, bleat at him or anything.
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He just walked full, fullbroadside and it happened so
quick.
I didn't even get a chance toput the camera on which we're
all hunters first.
I'm not a cameraman.
I like getting stuff on film,but when the time comes and I
don't have time to hit thatbutton on, uh, you know, I just
had to let it rip.
So he gave me a perfectbroadside 10 yard shot.
I picked that small spot andjust touched the release off and
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I seen the arrow cruise rightthrough him, that warhead man
and that that wreck broadheadjust pounded right through him
and, uh, it's stuck in theground and I could see it was
blood covered just from thestand, looking with my
binoculars.
And he busted through thethicket and I thought I heard
him crash.
I wasn't sure and I waitedabout maybe 15, 20 minutes and
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after that I got down I sawthere was, uh, you know, blood
all over the arrow.
When I went to pull the arrowout of the ground there was
blood all over my hands fromfrom it being on the arrow.
I said, well, geez, that's agood hit.
And, uh, you know I.
I said, well, let me go home,I'll give him time to lay down,
just in case, cause you know,you always want to give them a
good amount of time.
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Uh went home, changed out of myheavy hunting clothes, because
it was cold that morning, andhad warmed up by the afternoon.
Uh came back, got on the bloodtrail.
I got a little nervous becauseI had good blood right from
where I shot to where he went inthrough the thick stuff.
But you know they bounce offeverything, kicking stuff over.
So I was like, oh, geez, I knowhe went this way.
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And then by the time I bustedthrough the thicket, I looked
out on my main run and there hewas laying there.
You know that is a doornail.
So I I was ecstatic.
I said, oh man, I was startingto get a little nervous, you
know that, that little bit ofpace, but it was a perfect shot
right down through the heart,you know.
So I got him, got him out, gotsome pictures with him, and my
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father stopped over in themeantime and he took some
pictures for me, you know,holding the deer and stuff.
And then I came home, I got them, you know, hung up and and then
, um, I had to cut them up soonbecause it was warm and I knew
the next day it was going todrop down cold at night, but it
was going to warm up again thenext day.
So I got them, broke down,basically, uh, I put it in the
cooler, I took some heavy, thickpaper bags, like shopping bags,
put it on top and then laid iceover the top of that so it
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wouldn't directly touch the meat, and everything was fine.
The next day ended upprocessing it all up and it's in
the freezer, ready for us to toenjoy.
So it was a good, good time,good time I love it, love, love
to hear it.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know how for for
you, and you know the guys that
are able to butcher it upthemselves.
You know when.
When you're starting theprocess, how long, how long does
it typically take you?
Does it take you a couple hours?
What?
What's the process kind of looklike, sure, when you're
breaking it down.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, so basically
skinning them out takes me about
a half hour, 45 minutes,depending how fresh the deer is,
if they've hung for a while orit's really cold, sometimes it's
a little longer than that.
You've got to take your time,but typically a half hour, if
I'm on the slow side, maybe 40minutes.
Skinning them out, breakingdown, quartering the animal out,
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which is taking the two backstraps out the two inner loins,
the two front shoulders, off thetwo hind quarters, that's about
another 45 minutes for that tohappen.
And then I bring each rumpsection inside, I break down the
five cuts of meat that are inthe rump and then wrap that up
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individual.
If I make steaks, like out ofthis deer, I made a lot of
cutlets.
I like cutlets, I like poundingthem out thin.
So I processed everything incutlets, bagged it.
We put so many to a pack and inthis room you take them out and
you throw them out.
You want to cook them up.
You know they're all ready togo and each deer that I shoot
because I'll get three or four,probably this year, hopefully,
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god willing um, you know, likeone I'll grind.
Like if I get a big, a niceheavy doe I'll grind her totally
.
But, uh, start to finish on adeer.
It's typically, I'd say, two anda half hours, or maybe after
everything's all said and doneand cleaned up.
It's, you know, and I'm not theaverage joe, don't, don't.
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You know, don't forget, I, Igrew up learning from one of the
best butchers there was, sothat was my grandfather.
So he, he taught us how to doit pretty good.
You know what, everything so,and every year, every year I
mean I'm, I'm pushing 50 thisyear and it's a lot of years
doing it.
So everything's just old hat.
You know, you get them up andstrip them down.
It's it goes quick anymore, youknow.
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And my wife's great, my wifehelps, she, she uh bags
everything for me and labels it.
You know it's all ready to go.
So it's a team effort, it's ateam effort yeah, of course, um.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And then you, you
know you both roll into the next
day of gun season.
You know, I believe, frank, youwere already at the property
that night because you guys allwent on a Instagram weekend.
And you know, frank, go, goover it because, um, it's you
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who else went, your uncle myuncle and um three of uh, I
guess they're like theybasically know the family.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Um, this is actually
my first time meeting them, so
we had three extra guys up therewith us so, okay, all right,
yeah, and this is.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is a family
tradition you guys have been
doing for years and years andyears on the property, yep, um,
so special moment for for youguys.
Before we get into you knowwhat is.
What does it look like for youguys, is it?
You know?
You've been hunting thisproperty for so long.
You know the success rateduring gun season, is it?
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How high is it for for you guys, because I think last year you
got it done too as well.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, and everything
like that yeah, I mean, for me
it's it's pretty much like I'mlike 90 of being successful
where I'm at Humble brag, humblebrag, there we go.
I mean it's only because, youknow, normally I hunt up in the
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woods on top of this ridge andbasically I'm surrounded by all
the farmer's fields.
So we only we basically ownmost of the woods and you know,
I'm basically set up, my gunspot is set up right in the
middle of the woods, everything.
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So I can cover so much.
I can see almost everything.
So, you know, and my uncle, hebasically he's older, so he
sticks basically to the fieldsand I mean he usually sees them
before I do.
Sometimes he gets a shot,sometimes he sees them go into
the power line.
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He can't see them and then theyhit our woods and they end up
coming right to me.
We got it kind of figured out.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
How far is your gun
spot from where you bow hunt?
Are you close by or do you tryto bow hunt and gun hunt like
two different pieces of the um?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
no, to be honest with
you, where I shot my eight
pointer this year, um, I wasonly like 60 yards from where I
shot that six or that eightpointer.
So I basically I hunt in thesame general area because they
always seem to funnel throughthis one section all the time.
It's just it's easier with thegun because I could see
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everything more obviously.
So with the gun I mean with thebow I kind of got to move
around to get closer to thembecause there's so many freaking
trails.
Sometimes they drop, sometimesthey go up, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So plus, also, by
this time, the leaves the leaves
are all down and everythinglike that.
So it opens up everything foryou.
So you know a hell of a time onthe property for you.
I mean tagged out in New York,bow and gun.
So what happened?
Let's hear the story of theweekend.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah.
So what happened?
Let's hear the story of theweekend.
Yeah, so we went up thereFriday night and we did a quick
live with Squatch and JohnnyNitro and everything had a blast
.
Everybody had a few beers andyou know was all pumped and
excited for the morning and youknow we go out.
I think I got up around like 415 and headed out because
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usually I'm like the first oneup, I'm usually the first one in
the woods, you know.
So I told everybody else I'mlike later I'm out, I'm going
like all right.
So, uh, I get up there and itwas so freaking windy Saturday
morning up there I was like thisis going to suck.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Was it as windy as
the first day of bear season.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Almost.
It was literally.
I had a tree.
I actually scared the shit outof me.
I heard the tree cracking andit falls and it's only like 50
or 60 yards from me.
I was like holy shit, likefirst of all I'm not going to
see shit now, because this hugetree just felt like every
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everybody was hunting ourproperty, heard it fall and it
just happened to fall in frontof me and I was literally
contemplating do I get down ordo I just stay?
I'm like, well, I mean, fuck it, I'm up here already, you know
like.
So it finally gets daylight andI just first thing I hear is
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turkeys going nuts, man, I meangoing absolutely berserk,
gobbling everything.
I must have saw at least about20-25 turkeys and they're just
literally walking around me.
I, I have one, one beautifultom, walk right under me.
I took a quick video of him butI was like man, I'm like, but
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where are all the deer?
I saw I had one, one doeActually.
She bedded down only like 20yards from me and then she got
up, she left.
I had another deer come off ourpower line.
That was just a big doe, shewas all by herself.
And then I had one more deercome in, and that was pretty
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much my morning.
So I was like, oh, I'm like, doI stay, do I go?
Like it's windy, becauseusually I'll stay up there for
most of the day and all of asudden I hear a shot coming from
our field and one of the otherguys that was with us, he ended
up being successful.
He shot a six-pointer he saidit was a six and an eight
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fighting and as they werewalking up the ridge to me, he
actually took the shot, thoughthe was aiming at the eight
pointer but ended up droppingthe six pointer.
So I I never seen the eight.
So I'm like I don't know wherethe like.
Usually when they come up thatridge I can see them.
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I never seen them, so I don'tknow where the hell he went.
So I was like all right.
So I think I stayed up theretill about it was about quarter
to 11.
I got down and I was like, allright, let me get get some neat
and I'll go back up quick, grabsome, grab some neat.
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Went back up there around oneand boy, first thing I see again
is all those turkeys were backagain and I was like, yep, all
right, here we go, but it wasstill.
It was really windy and Ididn't see not a single deer
until last light.
Like seven deer came off ourpower line and came in into the
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woods and I can only tell whatthe first two were, and those
were two does, and the rest Icouldn't even tell what they
were.
So I was like all right, sowent back to the house we had,
you know, we ate, we celebratedhis deer get to.
Uh, sunday morning I'm, I wasall pumped.
I was like I think today'sgonna be the day like because it
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not, it was not windy, nothing.
So I was like all right.
Again, I was first one up,first one out, got ready and all
of a sudden it gets light, nota single deer.
And I'm be honest with you, I'mnot used to that in that spot,
like I usually see deer all daylong, nothing.
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So I started getting a littleworried.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like it was before we
we get into this, I at this
point I imagine I have woken upfor to go to work that morning.
I have to tell this part becauseI mean, I still can't believe
it happened.
But I will tell you no lie, no,nothing.
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Everyone.
I got up in the morning.
I knew the, knew the boys wereout.
I go to open up my drawer topick a shirt and I specifically
picked the broadside ambush hereand I say you know what I'm
gonna wear it for good luck.
Frank is going to get a deerand I was this close to before
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the message came in of taking apicture with it on and sending
it.
In the group chat I just thepatients were acting up a little
bit so I just got a littledistracted.
But I will, I like, and I hadto call the minute I got that
text.
I had to call frank because Icould not believe that it
actually happened.
Like you know it, it's just oneof those things where it's I
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guess that's going to be frank'snew good luck shirt.
When I, when I have to wearthat shirt I can't remember got,
because I wear that shirtactually quite often and I can't
remember if I was wearing it onthe day you killed your, your
bo buck, but it is a shirt thatI wear pretty often.
It was at the top two and ithelped, like I saw, and I was
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like I'm I'm taking this rightnow because I I got a good
feeling, so all right, continueyeah, no man, that that's cool
man.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I really appreciate
it.
Squatch, do you want to tellyou what happened or no?
Yeah, yeah, I was going to saySince we're on that topic yeah,
yeah, something else happened.
Mike Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Squatch, so that kind
of rolled over too towards me.
So I've got sometimes withpeople like clairvoyancy my
grandmother had it from theIndian blood and I get it.
Sometimes when I talk to peopleI see something or it's like
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deja vu or something happens andit's taken me a long time to
learn it and what's going on anduse it.
But when Frank and I weretalking the night before, I got
a picture of power lines and Iwas gonna say to him frank, if
you gotta stand by the powerlines and I know because I was
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up there, I saw the lay of theland I was gonna tell him I just
got a picture of power lines inmy head.
Go sit by him tomorrow.
I think you're gonna shoot adeer there.
And I said no, I don't the guy's.
Guy's gonna think you'refreaking nuts, don't say that,
just just just wish him luck.
And I'm thinking, well, what ifI tell him to go sit there and
the other guy goes in his standand shoots a buck?
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Then he's gonna be pissed at mefor telling him to go over
there.
I said just shut up and let himhunt the way he hunts.
So he says you know his side ofthe story when he's gonna tell
it, but you'll see what happens.
So, frank, go go on from there,because I'm not gonna.
I don't want to spoil it yeah,no, I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, so, uh, yeah, I
was.
I was out there in the morningand I already had put it in my
head that I wasn't going to beable to hunt new york state much
so if a decent buck came by, Iwas going to take it, because
pretty much I wanted to get myass back to Jersey to hunt these
big bucks that are around.
So as I'm sitting in my stand,my phone goes off and there's
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that 10 pointer I'm after inJersey and I'm standing right
under freaking my stand and I'mlike you gotta be shitting me,
man.
Like the one Day that he had toshow up, I knew I wasn't going
to be there because it was goingto be like I was going to be in
New York.
So I'm like, so I wasn't seeinganything.
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All of a sudden, I hear A fewshots around me, but Nothing
crazy.
And right On the other side ofthe power lines there's like um,
um, there's just it's prettymuch like a big field and
there's more woods.
I hear shots and I, and they'reclose, they're super close, and
I was like it wasn't any of theother hunters, it was, it was
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no, it was uh someone elseyeah, it was, uh, the property
next to us.
And I mean, I'm not going tolie, I was like praying to God
that they missed.
So I was like, oh, just letsome come.
All of a sudden, like literally, I think it was maybe 25
minutes, maybe a half hour,maybe not even, and all I could
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see was I see this deer comingoff the power line, but you know
where have the trees were?
All I could see was its ass andI'm like is?
I'm like oh, ok, like what isit?
And I'm trying to look and Ijust see three on one side and
then he starts running.
So I don't know like whatspooked him, what it was.
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So I ended up taking a shot athim running Squatch knows the
whole story.
I took a shot, I'm running.
I missed him the first time.
I missed him.
He ran, he kind of knewsomething was up, but then he
stopped in this ditch and Icould just barely see him and I
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was like, all right, I'm justgoing to put it as low as I
could, like I'm going to getthis here, because I knew he was
high but I knew he didn't have,I knew it was at least a six.
So I shoot again.
I freaking miss him again.
I'm like, what the hell?
And and believe it or not, hedidn't even move.
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He didn't move.
He just stood there, lookedaround and then he came up.
He came up out of that ditchand stood right out and open.
I'm like, oh that now it's over.
Now I could see him.
You know, I knew he wasn't, youknow, my biggest deer, but at
that point I didn't freakingcare, because I just got the
text message that you know, mybig shooter buck was in jersey.
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It's time to head home no, so I,I shot him and he'll, and he
only went maybe not even 10yards and I watched him fall
over and I was like that's, whenI started texting you guys, I
was like down, I got him, likeand I, I always say things,
things happen for a reason and Iswear every time like I miss it
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or something like that.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It it makes it better
because you know what and this
is always my thing what if youthe shot on the run?
What if it would have been agun?
What if it would have?
And then, okay, the second shot, you it was.
It set it up so you can havethat perfect shot.
And then the deer only went 10yards, and that's how I always
try to look at things is alwaysin my mindset.
Everything happens for mindset,everything happens for a reason
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, everything happens for areason, and it's like that,
that's like a prime exampleright there too, because you
know what Things could have gonecompletely in a different, we
could be having a completelydifferent conversation, but it
set it up for this.
Just the perfect shotopportunity for you, which you
capitalize on.
The deer went 10 yards and itwas like boom, then it was a, it
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was an exciting text instead ofa.
Uh, shit, guys, like you knowone of those other texts.
So, um, absolutely, you know,just say and then it's a whole
nother thing too, like now, andit's, you got two bucks on the
ground.
New y York is done and you'restill like down here in Jersey.
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I mean, we still have theopportunity for six more bucks,
I think technically.
Yeah because, we already did ourfar ball, but we have the
permit.
You have two for six day withany weapon, one for the
muzzleloader.
One muzzleloader and then.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
but if you get your
two for 60, it doesn't that
forfeit your shotgun, or theychange, I can't remember yeah,
if you get two during the, the,uh, the sixth day you can't
shoot one during, like thepermit shotgun okay, and then we
have winter bow.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Still it's crazy.
I, I like what new york does I,I like that.
Two bucks, any weapon, becauseyou know I'd still be out right
now hunting.
And I think that kind of makesit better, because if I shoot
about a buck during fall bow,shoot one during perm bow, it's
like do you do I really need togo out for winter to shoot, to
shoot a?
Shoot a buck?
No, you know, I like that wholemethod of what you guys have
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going on over there.
I think it's pretty interesting.
I wish we would adopt it.
Just keep a limited dose.
If you're going to cut down onthe bucks, just keep unlimited
dose.
That would keep people, I think, happy.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And I was.
You know, like I said, he's not, he wasn't my biggest, but dude
, I was pumped, I let my mynerve I was actually telling
Squatch on the phone and I waslike I let the nerves get the
best of me as soon as I seenthem.
Like my adrenaline startedgoing and I was like I have to
shoot this deer, like I have to.
You know so, but you know ithappens.
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We're hunters, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
When it stops
happening, it's not worth it
anymore.
You know that's the thing thatmakes hunting hunting.
You know you, you get that.
You know that eight pointer wasnot the biggest eight pointer I
ever shot either, but it wasthe last day.
Oh, he got my heart going and Isaid you know what?
You got my heart going.
I'm taking yours out, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And I also have to
say, like this year and I think,
how it happened, like sometimeswhen they come in so quickly
and you don't have thepreparation you like it gets, or
if they take too long to get inand it builds like my.
So my book this year, you know,when I don't think I, I don't
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think we talked about it on the200th one was I heard him coming
in and then I saw him and allthe heart got up there, but I I
grabbed my bow and I thought hestopped and then he turned and I
talked about this, how heturned.
I actually had put my bow downand I was able to pick up the
camera because I thought he wasgoing the opposite direction.
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And then when I noticed hecaught wind of the racket on the
ground, put the freaking cameraback down and was like, all
right, he's coming in.
I know this now.
But then at that point so manythings are going through my head
that I kind of was able to gothrough my motions of, oh my God
, a big buck's coming in.
That wasn't.
I was like, oh my God, I'mactually going to get a shot off
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, like I wasn't.
The adrenaline was there, butnot like overpowering.
Where I made a mistake, I wasable to then get it in and he
came directly in.
I think if he would have took alittle longer, the anxiety
definitely probably would havegotten to me at some point where
it was like, all right, why ishe not coming in?
Like now you're getting, whenyou're just waiting for them and
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they're just standing there,moving ever so slowly.
I think that is the worst ontop of it.
Just one just sneaking up onyou and just being right there
and you just see, you just seeantlers, and it's like, oh my
God, what the hell do I do, liketoday, like you're fumbling.
So I mean, yeah, from from whatyou?
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You know what you said, frank.
I mean it's, it's a.
I don't blame you for forgettingthe way that you know what you
said, frank.
I mean it's, it's a.
Uh, I I don't blame you forforgetting the way that you know
when it happens to everyone, II think that again, like swatch
says, once it stops, then it'slike, oh, what's, what's the
point?
You know it's, it's not.
We're chasing, you know we're.
We're chasing the unknown andthe adrenaline.
For me, adrenaline rush, I meanI still doesn't compare to
anything that I've, I've everdone.
I I mean, I haven't jumped outon a plane yet, but you know um
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it, it's just this whole otherthing.
And then, once it's done, Imean it's, I don't know it's.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Everyone knows who
who's a hunter knows when it's
done, it's like, oh God likeyou're excited, you're happy,
you're thankful.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Everything, even your
misses and all the the
frustration during the season,just it goes away.
Yeah, I'll tell you guys, I'mnot going to lie, I was.
I was beating myself up to likeliterally I think.
Like a couple days before I wasso frustrated I got to the low
(27:52):
of the season.
I mean you guys know, I grindhard and like I'm I'm going full
, like speed, and I hunt as muchas I can.
And it got to the point where Iremember every hunt is a
success for me, especially if Ijust see a deer, that's a
success.
And I went two hunts in a rownot seeing a deer, and I went
(28:12):
and I haven't seen any of thesebig bucks and I was like I'm
doing everything right.
I mean I'm walking, I, I put inmiles and miles and just moving
all around and I like it'snormal, it's gonna get to you.
And I remember and I, I wassitting and I was, I was in the
and I was just praying and I waslike what?
Like I was like this is a testand you're testing me and I I
know it is, but right now I waslike I am going to to vent and I
(28:36):
am going to.
You know, I'm just gonna saywhat, what the hell.
But that was me, just like allright.
And then, once it was over, andI was like all right, stop
throwing a pity party foryourself, let's, let's get back
on the train.
And then I found that, movedthe camera, found that buck, and
two days later, after thatprayer, I smoked one.
And you know I thank god andand my grandpa and everything
(28:59):
like that up there.
But it's, it made everythingworth it.
It made everything coming up toit, even the suck and the thorn
, bushes and cuts all over mybodies and me almost falling out
the damn saddle this year andand and all those things.
It made it all worth it and forall of us I mean every,
(29:20):
everyone on our team, I meaneveryone's having a tremendous
season.
I think we're at least probablylike at least 10 deer plus in
down already through the season.
We're still probably what,halfway, little, little more
than halfway um through thethrough the season already.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, so you say how,
how beat down you got.
And you know if you want totalk about beat down, I got beat
down because I had so manypictures of these bucks and and
grinding and and and just everyday, like you're just out there
and you're, you know you got aguy like me.
I'm a little older than youguys and you know I know a lot
(30:01):
of people look up to me like I'ma wealth of knowledge.
I appreciate that and I'msaying to myself I gotta get
this done, I gotta get this done, what the hell is wrong with me
?
Like I'm a wealth of knowledge.
I appreciate that and I'msaying to myself I gotta get
this done, I gotta get this done, what the hell is wrong with me
.
Usually I get a deer down andI'm saying oh, I jinxed myself
by getting in the contest.
I shouldn't have did that.
You know this and that.
And then I call my psychiatrist, broadside, ambush, frank, you
(30:24):
know.
I say I say frankie, what thehell?
What did I do wrong?
What am I doing?
And he's like you're not doingnothing wrong, you know.
And and that's what's importantwith the outdoors, when you've
got a certain person or acertain couple people that you
can talk to.
I mean, usually the guys cometo me and, hey, what am I,
what's?
But I need to talk sometimesbecause I'm I'm digging myself
(30:45):
down in that hole and I'm going,man, I got almost no time.
I went out to Ohio and then Icame back and I'm like I'm under
the gun and I'm trying to, youknow, get this all done.
I want to shoot a deer, youknow really bad, and he's like
just keep grinding and you'redoing.
Fine, it ain't nothing You're,you know you're fine.
(31:12):
You're doing what you'resupposed to do, so but, like I
said, that's key is havingsomebody you know, like like
frank, frank knows, and he knowsgoes both ways.
It's just like you know itdon't matter what time it is.
It's like if you got to talk,talk we're there.
You know, yeah, and he's, he'sconsistent.
I mean he'll sit, he'll get me,like I'm just getting in my
stand.
He's like like, hey, good lucktoday.
I know you're out there, youknow whatever, and I try to get
back to him.
You know, if I know he's outand I'm, I'm at work or he's
(31:33):
doing whatever, but you know,rely on your brothers and
sisters to help you.
You know, I mean you're not inthis, this fight alone, with bow
season and rifle season.
Talk it out, you know.
Like you see, because it reallyit screws with you.
It really does all the yearsthat I've been hunting.
I mean I'm what I tell you theother morning frankie is 30, 36,
(31:54):
37, yeah yeah, I think it was30, 37 opening days or something
you talk to me.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I've been out.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So when you sit there
and you think back and you're
going well geez, I thought thisshit would get easier the older
I got, and it's not.
It's getting freaking hard youknow it's getting hard it's all
right though, it's all good.
You know I, I was super happy, II got that deer with the bow
and you know you like you sayyou pray, you're out there
praying, you're like god, youknow I'm I'm trying to do
(32:25):
everything else right to fall inline with, with keeping me
happy.
You're happy with me and youknow, just grant me to wish back
.
You know I'm asking for asimple thing here.
Can you hear me up there?
You don't get it and you don'tget it.
And then finally, bam, it showsup and all that pounding
emotion comes through you like awave and you're like this is
(32:46):
awesome, you know, and that'swhy we do it.
That's why we do it.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Two things on that,
like one.
First of all, I'm right therewith you, but before last year I
felt like the biggest jinx.
I started this competition,everything like that.
I didn't do nothing.
I shouldered a deer liketerrible, terrible season.
And then I roll into this yearand it didn't start off well,
like I was seeing deer but likeI was only seeing bucks in the
(33:10):
beginning and I'm like, well,what, what the hell like is this
two years in a row?
I go, I'm gonna have to justnot participate and just run the
whole entire day and then andthen it clicks and then you know
.
This is why I tell people andyou know, one of my things I've
been preaching for years,especially on this podcast, is
(33:34):
you know, when, when I talkabout hunting and when I, when I
get people into hunting andit's not just hunting like, it's
just how we are built as humanstoo, and, and I believe, like
you have to go through the suck.
You know, and I remember when Ifirst started bow hunting, I
went through the damn suck and Imean countless and countless
(33:55):
and countless of either missesor not seeing anything and just
not killing anything and likethat suck.
But that makes you a better bowhunter, because then when you
start doing everything correctly, when you go back to that, it's
not nearly as bad becauseyou've already gone through it.
I was already not successful.
(34:15):
So now, okay, I know this ishunting.
Hunting is not always asuccessful thing, but when and I
love it when I see new peoplethere, they have success.
But it's also I want you to nothave success and I want you to
fail, because when things gettough in hunting and say you
wound an animal or somethinglike that, that could turn you
right off from hunting and belike oh well, you know I don't
(34:37):
want to do this and I don't wantto, I don't want to continue.
People nowadays and somethingyou know, I started working back
out now that you know I havesome extra time, not chasing.
You know, chasing, chasing deer.
So you know what I?
I listened to to jaco and I andI listened to david goggins,
everything like that.
And david says he goes rightnow.
(34:58):
It doesn't take much to bebetter than ordinary because
everyone's so relaxed and socomplacent.
You know, we don't putourselves outside of our comfort
zone anymore.
We're too civilized.
He goes.
I wake up every morning.
He goes.
You know what?
37 degrees out, I'll gofreaking, run 20 or 30 miles and
(35:21):
I hate it and I'm making myselfuncomfortable.
He goes the minute people get alittle bit of suck or something
doesn't go wrong, they quit.
So that's what.
That's how I take it.
It's like all right, you knowwhat?
You gotta appreciate the suck,because I'm not gonna quit.
This is, this is god testing me.
We're gonna keep going.
We're gonna keep grinding.
(35:41):
It is going to work out for you.
It's everyday work life.
I work out, I work in themental health and I tell the
kids listen, things are going towork out for you.
It's everyday work life.
I work out, I work in themental health and I tell the
kids listen, things are going toget better.
You have to keep putting theeffort in every single day.
You can't quit, you can't giveup.
There is no such thing as Ican't do.
This, you're, you're not givingup.
You know that's life.
You know I'll go out there andyou know if I miss a deer, I
(36:07):
miss a deer.
It sucks, but we've been therebefore.
You know.
We know what what comes withthe territory, especially bow
hunting.
We know what's coming with theterritory.
Let's continue.
You know scotch and I.
You know especially and evenfrank this year I mean, there
was how many times you couldhave given up.
You know, and just like youknow what this is.
This is just not for me.
You know I can't do this thisyear.
You know I'm going to justthrow the bow away, like I'm
going to wait until gun season.
(36:28):
I'm going to wait until thingsget easier.
No, you kept on it and lookwhat happened.
You smoked a beautiful eight,you carried it over and then you
still are going after a 10.
You know it's happened to allof us, you know, and everyone
listening to this podcast, weknow it's happened to you too,
you know.
Just keep on going.
And anyone who's new who list,who's listening to us, are new
(36:48):
to hunting, don't worry, we'veall gone through it.
Just keep on going, have fun,enjoy and learn something.
Learn something, you know, Itold frank.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I told frank, I said
yeah.
I said I'm done, I'm taking upgolf.
And yeah, he said I can't letyou do that, brother.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I need you listen not
only that, until you start
golfing and the ball's not goingwhere you get it, listen, golf,
oh my god, you'll be breakingthis.
Yeah, it'd be everywhere likeoh it's time it's.
It's time to go back to hunting.
All right, never mind you'reout golfing and all of a sudden
(37:27):
there's a giant eight-pointerright over there.
It's like where's the gun?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
This sucks too.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
You know, but I mean,
listen, I said it in group chat
I'm proud of all the boys thisyear.
I mean, everyone has done aphenomenal job and, you know,
has really push themselves.
And you know, I, I know squashyou.
You told us and you even saidin this you know you're under
some, some pressure andeverything like that.
I remember you you said it forthrough a bunch of times that
(37:56):
you, you know, for youpersonally, you're definitely
looking to perform andeverything like that.
You're with us.
You know you're with thewhitetail advantage and
everything like that.
And you know you, you'retalking about warhead and the
reak, uh, broadheads andeverything like that.
So I, I know you know you'relike, yeah, you know this, this
is coming.
This is a big season for youand and pressure and everything
(38:18):
like that.
You know and it's it's a greatthing to see and you know what
that makes us everyone, who weare, because we don't want
things easy and I, I think weall perform best when the
pressure is on.
And you know and it's.
You learn a lot about yourselfand still, you know all of us,
we're getting older andeverything like that, but you
still learn a lot aboutyourselves and putting yourself
(38:40):
through, all through, all thisand everything like that.
It's.
It's a valuable lesson.
I don't care how old you are,if you're 13 and hunting, or 60
or 70 and hunting, you know you.
You find out a lot aboutyourself, especially as the
temperatures get colder.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's like they say,
iron sharpens iron and diamonds
are made beautiful underpressure.
So underneath all that pressure, we're gonna, we're gonna
succeed and have a beautifulmoment.
You know is no matter how muchis on us.
And yeah, it's.
It's extremely tough whenyou're a lot of eyes you know
(39:16):
there's a lot of eyes likesaying, yeah, what's this guy
about?
You know he can talk, to talk,does he walk the walk?
So you know, you, you you'rejust trying your best to do your
best to be out there and andmake every second count.
And even my wife said she goes.
My God, I've never heard youtalk about so many different box
(39:37):
.
And you saw this one and thisone's here and I said, because
it's no different than when Iwent up to the reservoirs to the
first time, and I said I wasgoing to slam the reservoirs and
break records up there andcatch big fish 's the same thing
with deer and I said you know Igotta do it.
When I put my mind to it, Ihave to do it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I can't not do it,
you know so yeah yeah, I, I
agree, um, you know, and it'sthis year, it's, it's been a fun
year, um, you definitely, likewe talked about in the 200th
episode.
You know, I definitely think,especially here in new jersey or
wherever other, you know a lotwhy you see a lot more people
(40:14):
having success or so many deerbeing shot, because I think the
numbers have have gotten fromthat ehd that were that we
talked about and things arestarting to look better.
I know, frank, we we wereworried about your area, but you
know it's things are lookinggood, you know, and we're going
to continue with this, uh, withthe success, and you know, I'm
(40:35):
gonna, I'm gonna be back outnext week hunting for for some
does uh get some, some morepoints on the board and also
more meat in the freezer.
Um, you know, and, and thatcompetition, I mean it's, it's
where it's in full now, now thatit's now that us watch got one
and everything like that.
I think it's just Dave and Ithink Chris are the only ones,
(40:59):
and I mean it's it's a matter oftime before I know Chris.
You know, you know, shout outto Chris.
He's out there and he's been.
He went back to fighting somefires and everything like that.
So shout out to from to toChris, from from only bows.
And you know, with Dave it'sonly, it's only bound matter of
time before he gets one down andeverything like that.
So soon I'll be postingeverything, I'm going to be
(41:21):
making some stuff and I'm goingto be actually putting the
competition on on social mediato get some.
You know, see what the peoplepredict of who's going to win,
but it's a tight one.
I mean it's, it's a reallytight one.
Justin and Meg came they.
She, you know, and shout out toher very successful surgery as
well, you know, and we hope thatshe makes a full recovery.
(41:45):
Yeah, and then you know theboys.
You know one thing I'll saythank God Tommy's not in outdoor
time, he's not in thatcompetition, because I think
he's, I think he has like 10.
Doe shot with a or 10 deer shotwith a, something like that,
which is absolutely, I mean,shout out to him that's, and
(42:05):
that's incredible.
I mean I wish I had all thatroom in the freezer and
everything like that.
I mean I wish I had all thatroom in the freezer and
everything like that.
I need more friends to be like,hey, can you get me a whole
deer and everything like thatbefore I start doing stuff like
that.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
But, boys.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I mean, I think
that's going to wrap up, you
know, upstate New York's openingweekend, Any last minute things
you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
yeah, I just want to
say one more thing.
So after so we got twosix-pointers from, you know,
saturday to Sunday.
So I get home, two of the guysended up actually staying.
So I was actually tellingSquatch.
I stayed up there with my uncle, angelo, because you know the
whole jersey thing.
I didn't want to drop it off ata butcher, since you can't
(42:54):
bring the deer back.
So I was like, let's skin it up, we'll skin it, we'll chop it
up real quick.
It'll just be me and you, just,like old times, we'll do it
real quick.
Yeah, I talked them into it, wedid it.
So we get home and we are bothshot.
As soon as I go to lay down, myuncle calls me goes, hey, he
goes.
One of the other guys thatstayed just shot a buck.
(43:18):
I'm like.
I'm like, did he really?
He was like yeah, he was, hewas he, he shot another six.
He was he also shot a sixpointer.
So we got three six pointersoff our property on opening
weekend wow, three sixes yep,what's the odds of that?
Speaker 1 (43:36):
that's a hey, that's
a successful weekend, that is a
very successful weekend.
Shout out to to you guys andthe family.
Shout out to to squatch.
I mean that's.
That's what.
Four, four, new York, a bucksdown.
And in what three days yeah yepamazing amazing, so open.
(44:00):
Uh, success up in New York, thatis that's for sure.
Um, ladies and gentlemen, Imean I think that's gonna wrap
us up for for this week.
I mean I think that's going towrap us up for for this week.
I mean, obviously, we'll beback next week.
You know we have, officiallyare going to have a booth at the
empire state show, officiallyFebruary 28th to March 2nd, I
(44:22):
believe I will officially getput the dates in on that.
So that is our, our firstofficial like big, big event
that we're going to be doing andthat we're going to be at.
Um, we'll be plugging that inthroughout the time.
Um, like I said, we're stilllooking for our game dinner for
april.
(44:43):
Um, opening first weekend of ofapril.
I will confirm that too as wellonce we confirm what, the what,
the place and everything likethat.
But, um, yeah, no, we're, we're, we're chucking along.
I can't believe.
Literally, thanksgiving is aweekend, like a week and a half
away.
Yeah, it's insane already.
(45:03):
Time is flying.
Um, but, everyone, I hope youguys enjoyed this episode and
we'll see you guys next time.