October 29, 2024 • 42 mins
Ever wondered what makes Halloween so enchanting in the Whitetail woods? We kick off with special guest Ryan as we unravel our passion for pursuing the elusive Halloween buck. Join us on a journey to South Webster, Ohio, where Squatch plans to meet up with fellow hunters Jason, Quentin, and the North Carolina White Tails crew. It's all about the camaraderie and the thrill of hunting in the beautiful, hilly terrain. We share personal stories and memorable hunting experiences, emphasizing the joy of meeting friends in person and the anticipation of what the season holds.
Bow hunting isn't just a sport; it's an evolving adventure. From mastering the primal art of traditional hunting methods to dealing with unexpected challenges like poison ivy, we explore the adrenaline rush of bow hunting. Our stories highlight the intertwining of personal life decisions, like moving to Iowa for love, with our hunting escapades. Each outing is an opportunity for growth and success, and we celebrate the unique satisfaction of honing new skills and embracing the wild.
As Halloween approaches, so does the excitement of the hunting season. We reflect on recent experiences, recounting strategies and challenges faced during a dry spell. Conservation efforts, understanding deer movement, and adapting to changing weather patterns are crucial themes. A lively debate about favorite Halloween candies and horror movies spices things up, blending the spooky season with hunting tales. Together with our team, we prepare for the upcoming season, sharing best wishes and hope for a successful hunt filled with shared stories and unforgettable moments.
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Welcome back to the garden.
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State outdoors and podcastpresented by boondock setting.
I'm your host, mike Nedger.
I'm Frank Mastika Squatch youforgot?
you're going Squatch, I thoughthe was going to go, but yeah,
Squatch is here.
Ryan, this is your first timeon, correct?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, I mean, I saw your post figured, I'd hop in
and say hey, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, no, we're excited to have you on.
You know things are starting toheat up.
You know it is.
It's almost Halloween.
It's literally what Halloween?
By the time this episode drops,it'll be like two days away
from Halloween.
It is the perfect time to be inthe Whitetail woods, everyone,
(01:47):
and I don't know.
I think starting halloween,starting tomorrow, like it's so
magical.
Obviously it's halloween and Ilove halloween to begin with,
but the fact that, um, I justthink, dear, I don't know to me,
I think they just know thatit's go time and things just
start getting crazy and like thewildest things happen on on
(02:09):
halloween and I'm still chasingthat dream.
I want a halloween buck sobadly and that is like a huge
goal of mine is to get ahalloween buck.
But before we get into thatbecause I do want to get squash
up and going and everything likethat squash, you are going to
be busy the next week toeveryone, everyone, where you're
(02:30):
, where you're going to beheading sure so uh, me, jason's
killing and grilling, um quentinat full draw reports and north
carolina white tails all oninstagram.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Guys I've been friends with for a while now.
Uh, jason was so kind to inviteus out to his place, which is
out in South Webster, ohio.
Um, it butts up to WayneNational Forest, which is, I
believe don't hold me to it, Ithink it's like 58,000 acres, so
it's all uh, really really nicewilderness up there.
(03:02):
Um, some of the pictures I'veseen of some really really high
class bucks, and I'm justlooking forward to it, man Deer
camp with the boys and it shouldbe something.
It's going to be a hoot and youknow, the nice thing about it
too is hell.
(03:22):
We're all hoping for a big buckand nice time and everything.
But it's the camaraderie I mean.
You know how it is.
You're talking to these facesover the internet and you know,
on the phone and for all theseyears now, and it's like you
know, finally you're going toget to shake somebody's hand,
give somebody a hug.
Hey brother, how are you?
Finally we're face to face, youknow, and that's it's a
camaraderie.
You know I'm I'm 90 billionpercent looking forward just to
(03:45):
the camaraderie, you know, anduh, if, if a good buck comes
along, I don't care if it's, ifit's a decent eight, I'm I'm not
wasting the tag money, I'mshooting it.
So uh, but you know it's got tobe something decent out there,
which is probably not that hardno, no, I'm not trying to, you
(04:08):
know, jinx myself or nothing.
I'm just saying I I'm not one ofthose guys, you know, maybe
next year like I'd be morepatient with it, but you know,
this year traveling out, youknow, 10 plus hours and I'm, I'm
whatever man.
If it looks good, it's dying, Idon't care, I'm letting it fly
a hundred percent, yeah, no.
I.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I would be in the same boat too.
Listen, I said the same thingabout Delaware, you know, and
I'm still, I'm still waiting.
Hopefully I can tag a buck soonso I can head back down there.
For the rut down in DelawareCause just absolutely incredible
hunting down there.
But Ohio, big buckle list forme.
I know, frank, you know wewe've talked like, oh, can we
get to Ohio this year, next year?
(04:50):
I keep saying it.
I don't care what happens nextyear.
I'm going to tell my fianceright now Bianca, I'm booking
Ohio next year.
I'm just letting you know.
Yeah, she said uh-huh, justletting you know.
Yeah, she said uh-huh um youknow, but how.
You know what you're, you'regoing into this hunt, you know
(05:11):
what are, what are theexpectations you know.
Obviously it's not really aboutkilling everything like that
your expectations, having fun,the camaraderie and everything
like that.
What is the train kind of looklike?
Um, that that you've seen sofar in the pictures, or also
talking to to jason?
What's it look like?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
yeah, so it's, uh, it's hardwoods, uh, there's some
fields.
He's got food plots in up there.
Um, like I said, his propertyis private and it butts up into
that that state land as theirprivate land or public land and
uh, you know it's hilly, it'srolling hills through, uh, some
like smaller mountains I wouldsay kind of almost catskill-ish,
(05:48):
like it is up here in new yorkby me um, but big, big woods,
you know it's it's a lot, of, alot of good terrain.
I I'm gonna sit there and lookon, uh, the maps and everything
really good.
Um, of course, you know heknows the area like the back of
his hand.
So I'm going to, you know, pickhis brain a little bit.
(06:08):
And you know he was really cool.
He said, hey, you know what youguys can drive down the road.
There's entrances into the land.
You know I can tell you whereto go in there.
You know you can scout it outor if you want to try this spot
or that spot.
So I think I think he's he'sbeen on his game, you know,
really tough over there.
He knows what he's doing and,um, I'm sure he's he's got some
(06:31):
good, good, you know, thingspicked out for us to go try and
uh, you know, like anything, youfollow the home team leader,
you know you just use theirstuff.
And then you know, uh, you, youjust basically weigh out the
odds and figure out what's thereand then use your best judgment
.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
you know, yeah, yeah, no, I, I agree with that.
You know it's.
Listen, just just have fun, Ithink.
Anyway, like whenever we docamp, I mean we hunt, you're
hunting all the time, but you're, you're literally you're
hunting, you're eating, you'redrinking and you're laughing the
whole entire time like there'snothing else really going on
during camp.
Like you know, you're, you'renot sleeping much, especially if
(07:13):
you're going to be in tents andeverything like that.
Like I love tenting, like I can.
We were just for bear camp, wewere out and everything like
that.
It was like 30 degrees and itwas was my fiance.
She struggled with sleeping.
She's not used to it, like I amMe, once I get into that cold,
I just knock out and I literallygot up.
We left, went hunting, spent notime at camp, we literally went
(07:36):
we're out all day, came back,cooked food, cooked venison and
you know some bear andeverything like that, had a few
drinks, sat by the fire and justtalked.
And I'm kind of, you know,envious right now because I, I
wish we, we, we, I had a camp togo to right now, but we don't,
we don't have camp untilDecember, um, but I mean it's,
(08:01):
it's just glorious right nowit's, and I'm you know you're
going to have so much fun and Ican't wait to till you're back
in a week talking on the podcastabout all the fun you guys had
and everything like that too aswell, and and some of the
movement that you guys saw, orthe deer that you guys killed,
too, as well yeah, I'm hopingthat too and, like I said, uh, I
(08:21):
think we're gonna do uh like alive out there too, with us
sitting around the campfire andstuff and probably just touching
base on what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We're gonna try to connect, connect with the
community.
You know of all you guys whofollow us and everything and our
team and uh, of course, youknow, if something magical
happens and I'm successful, I'llmake sure everybody knows, you
know, send posts out, whatever Ican out there squash.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, you gotta do more than that.
You gotta text frank, say hey,you owe me a track, I'm crashing
in now.
Drive your ass six to eighthours.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Frank Frank.
Frank Frank has many frequentflyer miles with the old squad.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's.
He's got a lot of.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Frank's got a lot of pull with the old squad, so he
don't know.
He don't owe me nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He knows that with the old squatch.
So he don't know, he don't oweme nothing.
He knows that, um, but yeah, no, um, yeah, look, like I said,
looking, looking forward to it.
Um, ryan yo the the, the newguy to the to the podcast first
time on.
You know, let everyone outthere real quick now.
Give yourself a littlebackground and rundown about
yourself, I mean born and bornand raised in Warren County, New
(09:34):
Jersey.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean grew up hunting there since like mid-90s
, late 90s, when I first gotinto it.
I belong to like a club outthere in Warren County.
So, like you said, camp is likeeverything.
It's huge, Like Buck Weekvacation every year, set a year
out.
Like no matter what, but bowhunt actually got rid of all my
(09:55):
compound stuff.
just uh sticking string now ohyeah, I mean, like you said, I
was out west, I was in iowa forthree years, so that kind of
like I shot a good buck when Iwas out there, public land, like
missed a good buck when I wasout there, saw like freak of all
freaks, like nightmares stillabout it, but came back to
(10:16):
Jersey shot a couple of them andthen like I don't know, it's
hard, you try and find thattrophy buck year after year and
I needed a different challengeso I switched over to the
recurve for the last coupleyears, which I think is the end
game for like a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Like I think once you , you get to a certain part,
like that, that's on the bucketlist too.
Like, and everyone I talk to,who, who bow hunts, like you
know, compound bows, you knowit's like, what else can I do to
challenge myself?
100, what, what is the nextstep?
And that's what we're doing.
Like I, I take pride in bow, asall bow hunters we take so much
pride in and what we do.
But, uh, you know, how else canyou get better, how else can,
(10:55):
you like, listen?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
so it's an evolution, always like at first you're
trying to just kill something,and then you're trying to kill a
big one, and then you're tryingto kill the one, and then
you're trying to get otherpeople into it, so, like, then
you're just going to make itharder on yourself.
It's always something new.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, and it, yeah, and like technology is going
skyrocketing, but then we go tothe just the opposite, just
straight primal, like uh, but Ithink yet again, like when
you're, when you're talkingabout what we do as bow hunters,
like we're, it's the nextchallenge, it's the next you
(11:33):
know step, it's the nextadrenaline rush, like I listen,
hunting is no other likeexpression, no other bow hunting
like having a big buck at 15,20 yards, or a bear or something
like that.
I don't care what you've donein life, not many things, I you
know.
Compare there, there's a fewothers out there military
(11:54):
special forces like but not many.
Listen, I don't care what.
There isn't much like thatcompares, you know.
And then you're doing the old,uh, primal, traditional style
over there it's like, yeah, nowwe're now we're really talking
like earn a buck even earlyseason, like that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
First though, had me shaking, had me shaking Like you
wouldn't believe, just becauseI'm like I got it, like I got a
stick in my hand now, likethere's no room for error, yeah,
no it's.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And listen, joe still gets me there.
I was shake I wasn't shakingtoo bad Cause I kept it under
control, right, because I madethe mistake of like letting a
doe get to me last year and butafter I shot it like I couldn't
like, just that like feeling oflike everything has to be an
accomplishment.
(12:42):
And how I look at things islike today I went out the
evening hunt.
I said I I had a whole setupand everything like that, but
the wind wasn't good so I waslike screw it, I'm just going to
go try to find some fresh sign.
Every tree I wanted to pick hadpoison Ivy in it, every single
(13:03):
one the one tree that didn't.
Oh, I have it right now.
It's, it's, it's right here andit's on my back.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I could pull it off a higher.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I I used to, I used to be like that and then all of
a sudden, oh, it's no good, itchanged and now I get poison ivy
like crazy.
But before I used to literallybe able to roll around it and
I'd be good it's bullshit.
I, I don't I don't like thisgetting older thing.
Like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
There's a stick and a string right there there we go.
That was probably 12 years ago,hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I still got it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
The Super Mag 48 is on the wall over here and I will
shoot it again.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I love it, let me interrupt.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
you Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, no worries at all .
And then there's this one treeI picked that was so slanted I
got two sticks up but I was like, no, this isn't going to work.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like nah good, so I ended up going.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So then I went like this If I see a deer, today's
going to be a successful hunt.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
That's getting me anxious to start a hunt like
that oh, I was and you're makingnoise.
You're like oh, I wasted a half45 minutes trying to bounce
around.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I I got in early and I'm like all right,
like I'm gonna get set up likethat.
And then I look at my watch andI'm like, oh shit, I really got
like I gotta find a tree, likeand I'm making so much noise and
, frank, I felt like you theother day.
I was really close to brushtrees because, everything was a
mess because I'd already takeneverything up with me, kind of.
(14:39):
So when I brought it back downto the ground the first time, I
was like I'm not re-puttingeverything back the way it needs
, I'm just gonna pick it up inmy hand and everything like that
.
I've stopped falling anddragging like I honestly I
didn't think I was gonna see adeer and I saw like two or three
nice size does and almost got ashot on one.
But it's like that, right there, the fact that I saw a deer,
(15:00):
that success, that was asuccessful hunt.
Like after everything, you knowwhat you went for.
But that's, that's bow hunting.
Like you gotta take everythingas a success.
What we're doing is so close andeverything like that.
Like seeing a deer, that's thefirst ballpark.
If you don't see a deer, youknow you you can't kill one.
So that that's that's how Ilook at it.
(15:21):
But uh, you know we, we werelaughing before we.
We started recording the moveback to Iowa and everything like
that.
Like what, what was it?
Family related, job related?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
like what was it?
Family related, job related.
What was it?
Met a girl, followed her outthere, came back, got married,
so it worked out.
She okay.
She got into vet school andasked me if I wanted to follow
and I'm like, where she saidiowa, I'm like, let's do it you.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You want me to go to iowa, of course yeah, no problem
, yeah a hundred percent.
That's pretty cool.
No, that that's cool.
Do you get to go out likeanymore?
Um, you know what?
What's it look like?
I know like when you're aresident it's a little different
, but now that you're so, Imoved out and then you couldn't
uh, you weren't resident untilsix months of living there.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So my first season all I did was run cameras.
I got out there in like october, ran cameras, figured out the
lay of the land, found a coupledifferent tracks.
I wanted to hunt, torturedmyself.
I actually just went out andsat in my climber with no bow,
like when I couldn't hunt, justwatch, and that was like rough
but.
I was like I can't do anythingelse, like I may as well go
(16:27):
check it out, yeah and then, uh,so I got three seasons in while
I was out there hunted it hard,and then I guess now I'd have
to start applying for points togo back.
It's, I mean, and if you wantto get the counties you want,
you're looking at like four orfive points, I think, probably
like a three, four year processyeah, I started my process last
summer, so it's gonna it's gonnabe some time and I got a pile
(16:51):
of pins like I'm like I couldjust go back.
I got a few of my buddies thatlive out there, that like in
some of our areas, and they'resending me pictures.
I'm like, yeah, let's just stopwell, where?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
where are some other states?
Have you?
Have you hunted uh?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I had family growing up in wisconsin as like a little
kid so I hunted.
That like that was some of myvery first hunting.
I never shot anything.
We hardly ever saw anythinglike cwd was like really bad,
but that's where like I kind oflearned what hunting was and saw
the orange army for the firsttime and kind of the back 40
with grandpa on apple orchardand stuff.
(17:25):
So it was pretty cool I got todo that.
But uh, yeah, nothing elsereally too anywhere.
A lot of bird hunting I do.
I got a dog do a lot of thatcool yeah, those memories are
worth a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's, that's for damn sure a lot of a lot of the
best memories really havenothing to do with killing deer.
Honestly it's.
It's those you know, spendingwith the family and you know,
like you said, you with yourgrandpa and everything like that
, and seeing what um, yeah, whatthe what the Orange Army is
like, what was?
Do you remember?
Like, what was your first like?
Oh my God, this is gun seasonover here.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, you just got like I don't know.
You get out and walk in thewoods and sun's coming up.
You're not really expectinganything.
You just hear the yo's andyou're like, oh, what's going on
?
I didn't know anything about it.
And then just a line of guys.
It wasn't, it wasn't anythingcrazy, it's only a couple people
.
But I was like what?
I had no idea what they wereeven doing.
And then now I come back homeand do it with all my buddies
(18:21):
here in new jersey, so it'spretty cool and you said you're,
you're bird hunt, so you'repheasant hunting and everything
or waterfowl a little bit ofboth I mean a lot of bit of both
, yeah, so the pheasant huntinghere.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Listen, I tell people pheasant hunting in new jersey
is absolutely wild, so I I'vedone tons of it I, uh, I get to
work.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I work on a preserve that I get to guide out, no kind
of thing.
But then my favorite thing istuesdays and thursday mornings
before work, going out with likea handful of my friends and
like lining up in the dark andtrying not to get shot.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's wild all the times I've almost I've came
close to getting shot is duringpheasant season.
That's the only and I like, I,I, I like pheasant hunting, but
it's like damn, yeah, no, I'mnot going to do this.
Like I'll just wait and Iactually want to do raffles, to
(19:17):
do some pheasant hunting andeverything like that.
So just be me and like whoeverI want like a few of the buddies
.
So like I'm looking forward tothat.
But, ryan, what have you seen?
How's your season been so far?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's been decent.
I mean, I haven't put anythingon the ground yet.
I uh actually stuck a decentbuck pretty good buck would have
been my first recurve buck.
And I didn't find them, thoughtI aced them made like hand
calls and everything.
oh man, it was nice, big, wide,six pointer, no brows, like I'd
(19:51):
seen him the year before, prettymuch the same kind of deer.
I was like, all right, I'mgonna send one a certain step
forward to the front leg, likeslightly quartering away, and
just I put it right behind theshoulder but I think I missed
him forward, if that makes sense.
But like, yeah, behind the leg,but forward, because I followed
blood for 150 yards, justpuddles and like you can see
(20:14):
where he stopped, didn't bed,like we walked it, like you were
walking it, like waiting to seewhere that deer was going to be
, and then it just dried up.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And then I think he is.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So I'm still kind of hanging on that property pretty
hard, but I'm trying to stay outand move a bunch of my cameras
down there to look for him, seeif he's still around, Cause I
think I saw him and then I'veheard word of him, but so that
that hurt.
But lately I've been seeinggood box Like they're starting
to move for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, it's.
It's especially with that, thatcold weather.
Now, the one thing I willdefinitely say and this is
something I wanted to point out,we talked about a little bit in
our group chat, but I've beengetting a lot of people and
dming me and now talking topeople, gerard hit me up the
other day and, like deermovement hasn't been what it's
usually been.
We need cuts of yeah right andevery, and I'm lucky because
(21:10):
right now I I get, I'm actuallyI don't have that problem
because there's so much waterwhere where I'm hunting, so I
have just constant flow of ofwater.
But you know, up up north therethere really isn't that.
And I now like going through mymind, I'm like, well, why
haven't I seen deer, why haven'tI seen pictures?
Every time I've I've hunghunted up north and it's like,
(21:32):
oh duh, we're in a freakingdrought.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
It's warm dry.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, it's, yeah, not deer 100, no, and and if we
don't get rain, I it's.
It's gonna be troublesomebecause these deer are gonna be
killing themselves over.
You know, chase it andeverything like that, and we
already know how, what that'slike and what bucks, what bucks
(21:56):
do to to chase these does, andhow badly they run them down and
everything like that.
Like, if there isn't water,like it's, it's going to be a
serious problem and you know.
So, if anyone out there has theopportunity to do it, you know,
gerard actually did this.
He put a uh, he got a um water,yeah, and he put one in his, uh
, his yard and he told me he waslike, oh, like, I wasn't
(22:18):
getting any pictures, and then Iput that thing in and they're
in there non-stop, just justnon-stop, and that's all it
takes, because you know and andhe said it perfectly like it's
not only just about hunting andkilling, but this is
conservation, this is somethingthat's going to really help you.
The deer herds out andeverything like that, because
they're going through a verydifficult time without, you know
(22:40):
, without water, which,everywhere you walk, I mean it
sounds like I I can't even sneakthrough the woods right now.
It's no it's insane, yeah, so,um, yeah, no, that that's
something that, um, hopefully weget.
We get some rainfall soon andthat'll definitely help, but, um
, these cool 30 degrees morningsyeah and it's.
(23:06):
I think we're supposed to warmup a little bit for the days,
but I think for the most part,morning, mornings morning seem
to look good.
Um, I'm gonna take a quick yeah.
Of course halloween's gonna behot, but then it's supposed to
dip back down, but the morningseemed real good.
Saturday's gonna be 38.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to callwork again and be like I might
(23:28):
not be able to come in, but Imean, listen, I'm still going.
I'm a Halloween hunter, I don'tcare how hot it's going to be,
I'm probably going to be.
You got to get out, I'm going toget out, and I'm going to get
out in the morning, which Ihaven't done on Halloween in a
while, because I'm usually likedoing something.
But I said there's no damn way,I am not gonna.
(23:52):
I think 7.30, so 7 o'clock isshooting light, like take full
advantage of sleeping in alittle bit, not having to be up
at 4, yeah.
Yeah, not having to be outcrazy time, and you know it's,
it's a good one for sure.
But, frank, anything going onwith you?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
No, I mean it's basically been the same old I've
been um hunting my buddy'sproperty.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Tell them your story.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, which one?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
There's so many over there.
Um, yeah, so actually, yeah,that was on federal land this
past weekend, so I haven'treally been paying that much
attention to federal land thisyear, so I've been focusing.
I've been seeing really greatdeer where I'm at.
So I've been focusing, tryingto figure out that property and,
(24:46):
you know, put one of those bigones down.
But I did decide to go out onSunday.
There's no hunt in there on onthe federal land on sundays, so
I went just to you know.
Um, you know, throw up a quickstand, make sure everything's
good, move a few cameras towhere I know, especially during
the late season, like rightaround now, I start seeing
(25:09):
really good deer and wouldn'tyou know it.
I set everything up and I'mlike alright, but it's almost
like the same thing, real quick.
So I used to have a stream, Iused to run through one of my
spots.
I get there completely dry,nothing, no tracks, no, nothing,
(25:29):
I'm like.
But I threw up a camera anywaybecause I know they'll be in
there later on.
So I'm like, all right, we'lljust pull one here, make sure,
check all the straps of my treestands, make sure everything's
good.
Walk out to my truck and there'sthe game warden sitting by my
truck.
I'm like he's like.
(25:50):
He's like, hey, how's it going?
I was like good, how are you?
He's like good.
He's like, uh, he's like, so,what's going on with you today?
Like no, no, I was like I'm inhere scouting.
I said I'm not hunting.
He's like, yeah, he's like.
That's one of the reasons whyI'm here.
He's like somebody I guess wasdriving by and saw you or
whatever he goes, and theycalled me.
(26:11):
So, since there's no huntinghere, I wanted to make sure that
you weren't bow hunting.
I was like, look was like, I'mhunting here my whole life.
I get it, I know all the rules.
I said I'm just in herescouting, hanging up cameras.
I was like, as you can tell, Iwas in jeans, a freaking
sweatshirt, like I look nothinglike a hunter.
You know I was like.
(26:33):
I even put a note on mywindshield that says just
scouting.
You know he was like he's like,oh, yeah, he's like like.
I just wanted to make sure Iwas like, and because of that
reason actually, I was tellingyou guys in the group chat like
when, when I go there, I don'teven keep my bow or nothing in
my truck, I'll take everythingout of my truck, so there's no
(26:56):
confusion on what I'm doing,right, you know.
So he was like all right, he'slike.
You know, he's a really niceguy.
He's like oh, you know, he'slike have fun.
You know, did you see anythinggood?
I'm like?
Not really, you know, I'm like,but you know, I know that.
You know, I know that they'llbe in here, so he's like all
right, yeah, he's like have agood day.
You know, I'm like, but youknow, I know the, you know, I
know that they'll be in here, sohe's like all right, yeah, he's
like have a good day, you know,go enjoy yourself, be safe and
good luck, like.
(27:17):
No, I appreciate it.
So I mean, that was a goodexperience, I guess, right
that's good they're out doingtheir job.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Then like, yeah, you're abiding by everything.
It's good to see the man outthere doing this thing uh we?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I've told this story before in the podcast, but I
don't know if I've.
You know, I haven't seen you,ryan, you don't know and I don't
think you guys have heard this,but I was out one day, a
different zone than I hunt, butbianca was hunting, I wasn't
hunting and it was permit season.
And we're in the blind and it'slike prime time and I get a
phone call and it's the freakingwarden sitting at my truck and
(27:56):
he goes hey, listen, I just ranyour license plate and I see
that you don't have, um, youdon't have a permit for this the
zone.
And I go yeah, I know, I'm not,like, I'm not the one hunting,
like my, at the time, my, mygirlfriend is.
And he goes okay, can you puther on the phone?
I have to confirm that.
(28:17):
So then I'm like okay, and likewe're whispering too, because
like yeah, yeah, give Bianca thephone.
And she's like yeah, like youknow, I'm the one hunting.
Like he's like okay, like good,just had to make sure which,
okay, I get it.
You know I'm I'm the onehunting.
Like, yeah, like he's like okay, like good, just had to make
sure, which, okay, I get it.
You at what life man you'rereally.
(28:39):
What would have happened ifdear like what if I would didn't
answer, would you have came out?
and like would you walked outhere, would you, you know, I
don't know if you knew where wewere which I don't think,
because a buddy was letting ushunt his spot and everything
like that would you've waitedthere?
Like you could have like calledme and to answer while you
(28:59):
think someone is hunting too,like especially the fact that I
was doing it legally is likedamn what the hell.
But like I, I also get it too,like if someone's doing it
legally, you know, I feel likeyou do.
Yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow.
It's that one was always like athat's a little extra, that
(29:20):
yeah, like you could have justwaited for me, honestly, but
like probably you could havejust waited, and because I think
it was, I think we had likemaybe 45 minutes left of light,
so it wasn't even like we weregoing to be a couple hours like
it was a good part of the, ofthe hunt and everything like
that.
So um yeah but yeah, um.
So, guys, it is about to behalloween.
(29:45):
Um, anyone have any favoritehalloween?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
I second that Really.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I like the Snickers Peanut Butters that just came
out.
My wife can get them for me.
Man, they're delicious.
I got to bring them to you guys.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Frank, how are you not 500 pounds?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Do you see how much candy I have?
I don't know, I don't know.
I really don't.
I should be to be honest withyou, but I honestly I'm such a
shit like I am.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I have a sweet tooth so I can't give a favorite.
I don't know, I'm such a uh, Idon't even know.
I feel like back in the day Iloved getting, obviously,
skittles and Mike and Ike's Idon't.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I feel like I'll pull my teeth out.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, I love them, though I I love them like.
Of course, you'd always wantthe snicker bars.
Kit kat was big.
Oh yeah, three musketeers.
Or milky way, milky way, hugemilky way fan.
Or Milky Way, milky Way, hugeMilky Way fan.
Um, but Reese's never like Iand I like it.
(30:55):
I just I love peanut butter but, I like peanut butter and jelly
.
Like I don't really I'm not abig like peanut butter and candy
or desserts.
Like I just like peanut butterand jelly sandwiches.
Like I, I love peanut butterand jelly sandwiches, but, um,
yeah, that that's my.
Uh, what happened?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
it's a grape or strawberry strawberry.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I think I'm gonna have to go strawberry I, I, I
like grape, don't get me wrong,but I I love strawberry, like
strawberries in general, like Ijust like so much better.
And then if you put bananas onit and everything like that, now
I'm starting to make myselfhungry again.
Anyone got a favorite Halloweenmovie?
(31:46):
I'm a huge horror guy.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Love horror, me too.
So Friday the 13th, all day.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, I knew you would say that, oh man no.
I don't watch that stuff seelike I'm like the nun and like
the conjurings and stuff arelike always been like my
favorites yeah, I had that camplike right down the road from my
(32:13):
house.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
It actually borders some of that federal property
really oh no shit, like whenthey actually build their stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's pretty wild there we, we try to go up there
for friday the 13th like we'vebeen at the diner obviously so
good, listen, I ate there forthe first time, think like a
year or two.
Bianca and I loved it.
It was phenomenal, likeactually really good food, but
like we try to always go, andyou know, it's just like, listen
(32:40):
, I love Halloween.
If I could have Halloween, like, I look forward to Halloween.
But yeah, friday the 13th is aphenomenal one, frank, you know
what?
I was never a Conuring fan.
Ever since being with bianca,I've turned into one.
I love the nun movie zone, butdemon possession has always
(33:02):
scared the shit out of me stillto this day, like if you're
gonna scare me, that's whatyou're gonna have to put
something on like that.
But I am a classic slasherperson.
Halloween any day, or scream,huge scream huge yeah a fan, um,
but yeah, love, love, love.
(33:22):
Horror movies, squatch I.
I understand why you don't lovethem, though I'm like I, I get
it.
You know I really I wastraumatized as a kid watching
texas chainsaw massacre andeverything no, it's not that
it's.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I'm a, I'm a religious guy.
I love god, yeah, yeah and uh,the the whole genre, that stuff.
I mean it's all right for kids,go ahead, play, have your fun
and stuff, but I anything thatresembles satan I got nothing to
do with, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And then frank brings up the nun and everything like
that.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
This is why we get along so good.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
No it's, it's, no, no , no, I'm just I'm just not,
yeah, but I I me personally inmy life.
That's something I don't need,but I don't begrudge anybody.
Have your fun, do what you wantto do and enjoy yourself, you
know.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I'm.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm the most scariest thing out there.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I'm the squash.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
You don't want to hear that.
How out there in the middle ofthe woods.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You know, I don't mind, cause I'm he's on my side.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
No, it's all good, you know everybody has their
Christmas is my favorite holidaysecond is thanksgiving, but I
love thanksgiving this is thebest time of the year any of
them that are during huntingseason.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Now, right, I mean, it seems like a trend right
there, but but you know I lovefamily togetherness and it's all
.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, tradition always gets the big bucks moving
, so I always look forward to it.
I like the mysterious kind ofyou know the the big full moon
and you know all the hunter'smoon is out there and stuff it.
It gives it that little bit ofuh, you know stuff in the back
of your mind kind of thinkinggoing on.
But yeah, like I said, you knoweverybody has their fun, do
(35:13):
their thing.
We, we all did it growing up,you know.
I mean I used to get egg fightsand everything else.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
But it's all good.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, like I said, it's , it's.
It's all personal preferenceand stuff those movies.
Oh, I'm not a movie guy.
I hardly want.
The last movie I saw was WildHogs.
I'll tell you Really yeah, lastmovie I saw was wild hogs.
I'll tell you really, yeah, I'mnot a movie guy.
I I have more educationallearning stuff and and you know
stuff like that, but I thosemovies make me laugh because I
was like I'd be like yeah, okay,jason, I'll take out my 44 mag
(35:46):
and you're dead.
You know, I mean you're notgetting.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
If that don't, if that doesn't work, I'll park my
backhoe on top of you and you'renot going anywhere, you know?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
it's like how many times is this guy gonna die.
Really come on, yeah, you knowlisten.
Yeah, no, I I get that wholepart.
Listen, the best is whensomeone's running, like for you.
I was watching a movie theother day and someone was
running and and they fell andthey tripped and I'm like it
becomes funny to a point yeah,yeah, like make it realistic,
(36:15):
like, and that's why, like now,horror movies to me just aren't
that as as good as they used tobe.
I mean, obviously, now wheretechnology has become and you
know, now you can lookeverything up and everything's
filmed.
Like I do love about.
Like.
I remember when my mom wouldtell me like jaws was horrifying
.
She said she remembers going tothe movie theater and saying
(36:37):
jaws was like the scariest movieat the time coming out and to
me it's like I love jaws, likethat movie is not scary at all
like it is, it is so good, butit just shows you how like
things have just changed.
And now you can you know oh well, that's not real, that's fake.
Like back then it had that likemystical, like you weren't sure
(36:59):
what was you don't know yeahyou really didn't know.
Um, but yeah, now, huge, hugehalloween person.
Like I said, we we had ourhalloween party yesterday, which
which went really well, um, andthen I got, we have halloween
and then I have another one on.
I'm now november 1st and thenI'm taking time off to to hunt
and everything like that.
But any other um halloweentraditions from you guys, uh,
(37:23):
frank, any, any, any halloweentraditions.
I know the how the kids, I meanhow's your son?
I mean exciting time for himdude.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Very exciting, he we must have went on.
First of all it starts withtrunk retreat for school and
then we have like trailer treat.
That's another one I like everyliterally every two, three days
.
She's like oh, we're shakingtrick-or-treating again.
I'm like, I'm like I only gotone, oh so much.
He just hit me up before hewent to bed.
(37:52):
He was like daddy, if I eatthis, can I have one?
And I was like you have to feedit.
But it's just, it's so much, hehas so much fun, it's just it's
a blast to take them.
And then, like my wife's job,they throw like a huge event for
the kids.
So we took them there and it'sjust, it's just fun just to take
(38:18):
the kids out.
You know, see how excited hegets.
It's just, it's awesome.
So actually I'll, I'll be offon on Halloween.
I'll be hunting in the morning,cause then he's got his school
parade at like two, 30 in theafternoon.
So I'm gonna get my hunting inthe morning and then I'll, I'm
going to go to his parade in theafternoon.
So you.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You dress it up as anything no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
He wanted me to be.
He see he changes on me one man.
He wants to be the iron man,then it's, you know he's.
He's spider-man this year.
So you know, next time it'scaptain america.
You know I'm like, all right,never mind listen, I, I, I feel
him, I completely.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
We have three.
I, bianca and I were.
We're bride and groom becausewe're getting married, but we're
all like bloody and like zombie, whatever.
And then, we're I don't knowwhat we're being on halloween.
We're still figuring that outand then we still have to figure
out the first.
But, like she, literally thewhole entire time I was hunting.
She was at the halloween storetrying to find us costumes.
She goes okay, well, we couldbe this or we could be that.
(39:14):
And I'm like just pick one.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
There's so many options man Like it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, I thought deer hunting was overwhelming for me.
You know having too many buckson camera, but trying to pick
the perfect Halloween costumeright now is, I think, way yeah,
really stressful man.
How about youyan?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
any, any, uh, halloween traditions, uh, just
get in the woods.
I try to hunt.
I mean, yes, like you're saying, it's, that's the kickoff.
Like you know any bow hunter,you got to be in the woods on
halloween.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, no no, it's I'm I'm thinking about.
Uh, I mean I dress up.
Also, like I won't dress upanything crazy.
But I started a new traditionlast year where, like Bianca
will do like some like scarything on me and I'll just go
hunt, and it gets me into likeI'll wear a Michael Myers shirt
underneath my shirt and I hadlike a scream hat on, like last
year, and it's like I'm going tokill.
(40:11):
So I'm telling you I'm gettinginto my listen if they have a
black one.
If I find one, I'm gonna do it,I definitely will.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
I might not be able to see well, but Walking by out
in public land Accidentallypassed a trail camera.
You just got your mouth.
I know where a bunch Of camerasare, I just poke around a bunch
, so be like Well, I know wherea bunch of cameras are.
Yeah, I just poke around abunch of them.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
They'll be like well, I know where I'm not hunting.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Hey Frank, you saw that post a couple weeks back.
I had that white thing in frontof the deer.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, I was like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I don't know, it was probably a moth, but I was like,
look, it's a ghost forHalloween.
You know, get Casper's out infront of my trail camera.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, honestly, if I saw something really, really
creepy, I'd probably leave thatcamera there for good and just
not look at it?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'm good, especially the further out in the middle of
nowhere.
You get like nah.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I'm good.
Yeah, see I.
What I would do is I wouldspend it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I'd be like hey guys, let's all go, let's all go
scout this spot together.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, hey, you, you guys go first, I'll follow you
around yeah yeah, scream if youneed me, that's it.
Um, but all right, guys, listen, it was a pleasure to have you
guys on as, as usual, the teamguys, you guys are always on
ryan.
We we got to get you for a fullepisode in the off season where
(41:46):
we'll break down a lot morethose breakdowns are usually we.
We go anywhere from an hour totwo hours, um, and we'll do a
full dive on the fam, like howyou got into hunting and you
know the, your first lessons andyour first year and everything
like that, and then the storiesof your, your biggest deer and
everything like that.
But I appreciate you um comingon and everything like that Um
(42:10):
you know, and like that's thebest of luck to you, uh, this
year.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
And definitely hope to meet you in person and
everything like that too, aswell, For sure, yeah, I mean
definitely in the same areas, Ithink hunting sometimes.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
So we'll link up.
Yeah, we definitely will, andeveryone out there you know.
Happy Halloween, best of luck.
The rut is literally rightaround the corners.
Swatch, go, go, kill one out inohio and I I hope we're all
dropping, uh dropping some bucksin the next couple weeks to
come.
So, um, you know everyone, goodluck out there, uh, stay safe
and uh, we'll see you guys nexttime.
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Welcome back to the garden.
(01:00):
State outdoors and podcastpresented by boondock setting.
I'm your host, mike Nedger.
I'm Frank Mastika Squatch youforgot?
you're going Squatch, I thoughthe was going to go, but yeah,
Squatch is here.
Ryan, this is your first timeon, correct?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, I mean, I saw your post figured, I'd hop in
and say hey, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, no, we're excited to have you on.
You know things are starting toheat up.
You know it is.
It's almost Halloween.
It's literally what Halloween?
By the time this episode drops,it'll be like two days away
from Halloween.
It is the perfect time to be inthe Whitetail woods, everyone,
(01:47):
and I don't know.
I think starting halloween,starting tomorrow, like it's so
magical.
Obviously it's halloween and Ilove halloween to begin with,
but the fact that, um, I justthink, dear, I don't know to me,
I think they just know thatit's go time and things just
start getting crazy and like thewildest things happen on on
(02:09):
halloween and I'm still chasingthat dream.
I want a halloween buck sobadly and that is like a huge
goal of mine is to get ahalloween buck.
But before we get into thatbecause I do want to get squash
up and going and everything likethat squash, you are going to
be busy the next week toeveryone, everyone, where you're
(02:30):
, where you're going to beheading sure so uh, me, jason's
killing and grilling, um quentinat full draw reports and north
carolina white tails all oninstagram.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Guys I've been friends with for a while now.
Uh, jason was so kind to inviteus out to his place, which is
out in South Webster, ohio.
Um, it butts up to WayneNational Forest, which is, I
believe don't hold me to it, Ithink it's like 58,000 acres, so
it's all uh, really really nicewilderness up there.
(03:02):
Um, some of the pictures I'veseen of some really really high
class bucks, and I'm justlooking forward to it, man Deer
camp with the boys and it shouldbe something.
It's going to be a hoot and youknow, the nice thing about it
too is hell.
(03:22):
We're all hoping for a big buckand nice time and everything.
But it's the camaraderie I mean.
You know how it is.
You're talking to these facesover the internet and you know,
on the phone and for all theseyears now, and it's like you
know, finally you're going toget to shake somebody's hand,
give somebody a hug.
Hey brother, how are you?
Finally we're face to face, youknow, and that's it's a
camaraderie.
You know I'm I'm 90 billionpercent looking forward just to
(03:45):
the camaraderie, you know, anduh, if, if a good buck comes
along, I don't care if it's, ifit's a decent eight, I'm I'm not
wasting the tag money, I'mshooting it.
So uh, but you know it's got tobe something decent out there,
which is probably not that hardno, no, I'm not trying to, you
(04:08):
know, jinx myself or nothing.
I'm just saying I I'm not one ofthose guys, you know, maybe
next year like I'd be morepatient with it, but you know,
this year traveling out, youknow, 10 plus hours and I'm, I'm
whatever man.
If it looks good, it's dying, Idon't care, I'm letting it fly
a hundred percent, yeah, no.
I.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I would be in the same boat too.
Listen, I said the same thingabout Delaware, you know, and
I'm still, I'm still waiting.
Hopefully I can tag a buck soonso I can head back down there.
For the rut down in DelawareCause just absolutely incredible
hunting down there.
But Ohio, big buckle list forme.
I know, frank, you know wewe've talked like, oh, can we
get to Ohio this year, next year?
(04:50):
I keep saying it.
I don't care what happens nextyear.
I'm going to tell my fianceright now Bianca, I'm booking
Ohio next year.
I'm just letting you know.
Yeah, she said uh-huh, justletting you know.
Yeah, she said uh-huh um youknow, but how.
You know what you're, you'regoing into this hunt, you know
(05:11):
what are, what are theexpectations you know.
Obviously it's not really aboutkilling everything like that
your expectations, having fun,the camaraderie and everything
like that.
What is the train kind of looklike?
Um, that that you've seen sofar in the pictures, or also
talking to to jason?
What's it look like?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
yeah, so it's, uh, it's hardwoods, uh, there's some
fields.
He's got food plots in up there.
Um, like I said, his propertyis private and it butts up into
that that state land as theirprivate land or public land and
uh, you know it's hilly, it'srolling hills through, uh, some
like smaller mountains I wouldsay kind of almost catskill-ish,
(05:48):
like it is up here in new yorkby me um, but big, big woods,
you know it's it's a lot, of, alot of good terrain.
I I'm gonna sit there and lookon, uh, the maps and everything
really good.
Um, of course, you know heknows the area like the back of
his hand.
So I'm going to, you know, pickhis brain a little bit.
(06:08):
And you know he was really cool.
He said, hey, you know what youguys can drive down the road.
There's entrances into the land.
You know I can tell you whereto go in there.
You know you can scout it outor if you want to try this spot
or that spot.
So I think I think he's he'sbeen on his game, you know,
really tough over there.
He knows what he's doing and,um, I'm sure he's he's got some
(06:31):
good, good, you know, thingspicked out for us to go try and
uh, you know, like anything, youfollow the home team leader,
you know you just use theirstuff.
And then you know, uh, you, youjust basically weigh out the
odds and figure out what's thereand then use your best judgment
.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
you know, yeah, yeah, no, I, I agree with that.
You know it's.
Listen, just just have fun, Ithink.
Anyway, like whenever we docamp, I mean we hunt, you're
hunting all the time, but you're, you're literally you're
hunting, you're eating, you'redrinking and you're laughing the
whole entire time like there'snothing else really going on
during camp.
Like you know, you're, you'renot sleeping much, especially if
(07:13):
you're going to be in tents andeverything like that.
Like I love tenting, like I can.
We were just for bear camp, wewere out and everything like
that.
It was like 30 degrees and itwas was my fiance.
She struggled with sleeping.
She's not used to it, like I amMe, once I get into that cold,
I just knock out and I literallygot up.
We left, went hunting, spent notime at camp, we literally went
(07:36):
we're out all day, came back,cooked food, cooked venison and
you know some bear andeverything like that, had a few
drinks, sat by the fire and justtalked.
And I'm kind of, you know,envious right now because I, I
wish we, we, we, I had a camp togo to right now, but we don't,
we don't have camp untilDecember, um, but I mean it's,
(08:01):
it's just glorious right nowit's, and I'm you know you're
going to have so much fun and Ican't wait to till you're back
in a week talking on the podcastabout all the fun you guys had
and everything like that too aswell, and and some of the
movement that you guys saw, orthe deer that you guys killed,
too, as well yeah, I'm hopingthat too and, like I said, uh, I
(08:21):
think we're gonna do uh like alive out there too, with us
sitting around the campfire andstuff and probably just touching
base on what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We're gonna try to connect, connect with the
community.
You know of all you guys whofollow us and everything and our
team and uh, of course, youknow, if something magical
happens and I'm successful, I'llmake sure everybody knows, you
know, send posts out, whatever Ican out there squash.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, you gotta do more than that.
You gotta text frank, say hey,you owe me a track, I'm crashing
in now.
Drive your ass six to eighthours.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Frank Frank.
Frank Frank has many frequentflyer miles with the old squad.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's.
He's got a lot of.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Frank's got a lot of pull with the old squad, so he
don't know.
He don't owe me nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He knows that with the old squatch.
So he don't know, he don't oweme nothing.
He knows that, um, but yeah, no, um, yeah, look, like I said,
looking, looking forward to it.
Um, ryan yo the the, the newguy to the to the podcast first
time on.
You know, let everyone outthere real quick now.
Give yourself a littlebackground and rundown about
yourself, I mean born and bornand raised in Warren County, New
(09:34):
Jersey.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean grew up hunting there since like mid-90s
, late 90s, when I first gotinto it.
I belong to like a club outthere in Warren County.
So, like you said, camp is likeeverything.
It's huge, Like Buck Weekvacation every year, set a year
out.
Like no matter what, but bowhunt actually got rid of all my
(09:55):
compound stuff.
just uh sticking string now ohyeah, I mean, like you said, I
was out west, I was in iowa forthree years, so that kind of
like I shot a good buck when Iwas out there, public land, like
missed a good buck when I wasout there, saw like freak of all
freaks, like nightmares stillabout it, but came back to
(10:16):
Jersey shot a couple of them andthen like I don't know, it's
hard, you try and find thattrophy buck year after year and
I needed a different challengeso I switched over to the
recurve for the last coupleyears, which I think is the end
game for like a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Like I think once you , you get to a certain part,
like that, that's on the bucketlist too.
Like, and everyone I talk to,who, who bow hunts, like you
know, compound bows, you knowit's like, what else can I do to
challenge myself?
100, what, what is the nextstep?
And that's what we're doing.
Like I, I take pride in bow, asall bow hunters we take so much
pride in and what we do.
But, uh, you know, how else canyou get better, how else can,
(10:55):
you like, listen?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
so it's an evolution, always like at first you're
trying to just kill something,and then you're trying to kill a
big one, and then you're tryingto kill the one, and then
you're trying to get otherpeople into it, so, like, then
you're just going to make itharder on yourself.
It's always something new.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, and it, yeah, and like technology is going
skyrocketing, but then we go tothe just the opposite, just
straight primal, like uh, but Ithink yet again, like when
you're, when you're talkingabout what we do as bow hunters,
like we're, it's the nextchallenge, it's the next you
(11:33):
know step, it's the nextadrenaline rush, like I listen,
hunting is no other likeexpression, no other bow hunting
like having a big buck at 15,20 yards, or a bear or something
like that.
I don't care what you've donein life, not many things, I you
know.
Compare there, there's a fewothers out there military
(11:54):
special forces like but not many.
Listen, I don't care what.
There isn't much like thatcompares, you know.
And then you're doing the old,uh, primal, traditional style
over there it's like, yeah, nowwe're now we're really talking
like earn a buck even earlyseason, like that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
First though, had me shaking, had me shaking Like you
wouldn't believe, just becauseI'm like I got it, like I got a
stick in my hand now, likethere's no room for error, yeah,
no it's.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And listen, joe still gets me there.
I was shake I wasn't shakingtoo bad Cause I kept it under
control, right, because I madethe mistake of like letting a
doe get to me last year and butafter I shot it like I couldn't
like, just that like feeling oflike everything has to be an
accomplishment.
(12:42):
And how I look at things islike today I went out the
evening hunt.
I said I I had a whole setupand everything like that, but
the wind wasn't good so I waslike screw it, I'm just going to
go try to find some fresh sign.
Every tree I wanted to pick hadpoison Ivy in it, every single
(13:03):
one the one tree that didn't.
Oh, I have it right now.
It's, it's, it's right here andit's on my back.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I could pull it off a higher.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I I used to, I used to be like that and then all of
a sudden, oh, it's no good, itchanged and now I get poison ivy
like crazy.
But before I used to literallybe able to roll around it and
I'd be good it's bullshit.
I, I don't I don't like thisgetting older thing.
Like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
There's a stick and a string right there there we go.
That was probably 12 years ago,hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I still got it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
The Super Mag 48 is on the wall over here and I will
shoot it again.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I love it, let me interrupt.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
you Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, no worries at all .
And then there's this one treeI picked that was so slanted I
got two sticks up but I was like, no, this isn't going to work.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like nah good, so I ended up going.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So then I went like this If I see a deer, today's
going to be a successful hunt.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
That's getting me anxious to start a hunt like
that oh, I was and you're makingnoise.
You're like oh, I wasted a half45 minutes trying to bounce
around.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I I got in early and I'm like all right,
like I'm gonna get set up likethat.
And then I look at my watch andI'm like, oh shit, I really got
like I gotta find a tree, likeand I'm making so much noise and
, frank, I felt like you theother day.
I was really close to brushtrees because, everything was a
mess because I'd already takeneverything up with me, kind of.
(14:39):
So when I brought it back downto the ground the first time, I
was like I'm not re-puttingeverything back the way it needs
, I'm just gonna pick it up inmy hand and everything like that
.
I've stopped falling anddragging like I honestly I
didn't think I was gonna see adeer and I saw like two or three
nice size does and almost got ashot on one.
But it's like that, right there, the fact that I saw a deer,
(15:00):
that success, that was asuccessful hunt.
Like after everything, you knowwhat you went for.
But that's, that's bow hunting.
Like you gotta take everythingas a success.
What we're doing is so close andeverything like that.
Like seeing a deer, that's thefirst ballpark.
If you don't see a deer, youknow you you can't kill one.
So that that's that's how Ilook at it.
(15:21):
But uh, you know we, we werelaughing before we.
We started recording the moveback to Iowa and everything like
that.
Like what, what was it?
Family related, job related?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
like what was it?
Family related, job related.
What was it?
Met a girl, followed her outthere, came back, got married,
so it worked out.
She okay.
She got into vet school andasked me if I wanted to follow
and I'm like, where she saidiowa, I'm like, let's do it you.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You want me to go to iowa, of course yeah, no problem
, yeah a hundred percent.
That's pretty cool.
No, that that's cool.
Do you get to go out likeanymore?
Um, you know what?
What's it look like?
I know like when you're aresident it's a little different
, but now that you're so, Imoved out and then you couldn't
uh, you weren't resident untilsix months of living there.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So my first season all I did was run cameras.
I got out there in like october, ran cameras, figured out the
lay of the land, found a coupledifferent tracks.
I wanted to hunt, torturedmyself.
I actually just went out andsat in my climber with no bow,
like when I couldn't hunt, justwatch, and that was like rough
but.
I was like I can't do anythingelse, like I may as well go
(16:27):
check it out, yeah and then, uh,so I got three seasons in while
I was out there hunted it hard,and then I guess now I'd have
to start applying for points togo back.
It's, I mean, and if you wantto get the counties you want,
you're looking at like four orfive points, I think, probably
like a three, four year processyeah, I started my process last
summer, so it's gonna it's gonnabe some time and I got a pile
(16:51):
of pins like I'm like I couldjust go back.
I got a few of my buddies thatlive out there, that like in
some of our areas, and they'resending me pictures.
I'm like, yeah, let's just stopwell, where?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
where are some other states?
Have you?
Have you hunted uh?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I had family growing up in wisconsin as like a little
kid so I hunted.
That like that was some of myvery first hunting.
I never shot anything.
We hardly ever saw anythinglike cwd was like really bad,
but that's where like I kind oflearned what hunting was and saw
the orange army for the firsttime and kind of the back 40
with grandpa on apple orchardand stuff.
(17:25):
So it was pretty cool I got todo that.
But uh, yeah, nothing elsereally too anywhere.
A lot of bird hunting I do.
I got a dog do a lot of thatcool yeah, those memories are
worth a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's, that's for damn sure a lot of a lot of the
best memories really havenothing to do with killing deer.
Honestly it's.
It's those you know, spendingwith the family and you know,
like you said, you with yourgrandpa and everything like that
, and seeing what um, yeah, whatthe what the Orange Army is
like, what was?
Do you remember?
Like, what was your first like?
Oh my God, this is gun seasonover here.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, you just got like I don't know.
You get out and walk in thewoods and sun's coming up.
You're not really expectinganything.
You just hear the yo's andyou're like, oh, what's going on
?
I didn't know anything about it.
And then just a line of guys.
It wasn't, it wasn't anythingcrazy, it's only a couple people
.
But I was like what?
I had no idea what they wereeven doing.
And then now I come back homeand do it with all my buddies
(18:21):
here in new jersey, so it'spretty cool and you said you're,
you're bird hunt, so you'repheasant hunting and everything
or waterfowl a little bit ofboth I mean a lot of bit of both
, yeah, so the pheasant huntinghere.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Listen, I tell people pheasant hunting in new jersey
is absolutely wild, so I I'vedone tons of it I, uh, I get to
work.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I work on a preserve that I get to guide out, no kind
of thing.
But then my favorite thing istuesdays and thursday mornings
before work, going out with likea handful of my friends and
like lining up in the dark andtrying not to get shot.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's wild all the times I've almost I've came
close to getting shot is duringpheasant season.
That's the only and I like, I,I, I like pheasant hunting, but
it's like damn, yeah, no, I'mnot going to do this.
Like I'll just wait and Iactually want to do raffles, to
(19:17):
do some pheasant hunting andeverything like that.
So just be me and like whoeverI want like a few of the buddies
.
So like I'm looking forward tothat.
But, ryan, what have you seen?
How's your season been so far?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's been decent.
I mean, I haven't put anythingon the ground yet.
I uh actually stuck a decentbuck pretty good buck would have
been my first recurve buck.
And I didn't find them, thoughtI aced them made like hand
calls and everything.
oh man, it was nice, big, wide,six pointer, no brows, like I'd
(19:51):
seen him the year before, prettymuch the same kind of deer.
I was like, all right, I'mgonna send one a certain step
forward to the front leg, likeslightly quartering away, and
just I put it right behind theshoulder but I think I missed
him forward, if that makes sense.
But like, yeah, behind the leg,but forward, because I followed
blood for 150 yards, justpuddles and like you can see
(20:14):
where he stopped, didn't bed,like we walked it, like you were
walking it, like waiting to seewhere that deer was going to be
, and then it just dried up.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And then I think he is.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So I'm still kind of hanging on that property pretty
hard, but I'm trying to stay outand move a bunch of my cameras
down there to look for him, seeif he's still around, Cause I
think I saw him and then I'veheard word of him, but so that
that hurt.
But lately I've been seeinggood box Like they're starting
to move for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, it's.
It's especially with that, thatcold weather.
Now, the one thing I willdefinitely say and this is
something I wanted to point out,we talked about a little bit in
our group chat, but I've beengetting a lot of people and
dming me and now talking topeople, gerard hit me up the
other day and, like deermovement hasn't been what it's
usually been.
We need cuts of yeah right andevery, and I'm lucky because
(21:10):
right now I I get, I'm actuallyI don't have that problem
because there's so much waterwhere where I'm hunting, so I
have just constant flow of ofwater.
But you know, up up north therethere really isn't that.
And I now like going through mymind, I'm like, well, why
haven't I seen deer, why haven'tI seen pictures?
Every time I've I've hunghunted up north and it's like,
(21:32):
oh duh, we're in a freakingdrought.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
It's warm dry.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, it's, yeah, not deer 100, no, and and if we
don't get rain, I it's.
It's gonna be troublesomebecause these deer are gonna be
killing themselves over.
You know, chase it andeverything like that, and we
already know how, what that'slike and what bucks, what bucks
(21:56):
do to to chase these does, andhow badly they run them down and
everything like that.
Like, if there isn't water,like it's, it's going to be a
serious problem and you know.
So, if anyone out there has theopportunity to do it, you know,
gerard actually did this.
He put a uh, he got a um water,yeah, and he put one in his, uh
, his yard and he told me he waslike, oh, like, I wasn't
(22:18):
getting any pictures, and then Iput that thing in and they're
in there non-stop, just justnon-stop, and that's all it
takes, because you know and andhe said it perfectly like it's
not only just about hunting andkilling, but this is
conservation, this is somethingthat's going to really help you.
The deer herds out andeverything like that, because
they're going through a verydifficult time without, you know
(22:40):
, without water, which,everywhere you walk, I mean it
sounds like I I can't even sneakthrough the woods right now.
It's no it's insane, yeah, so,um, yeah, no, that that's
something that, um, hopefully weget.
We get some rainfall soon andthat'll definitely help, but, um
, these cool 30 degrees morningsyeah and it's.
(23:06):
I think we're supposed to warmup a little bit for the days,
but I think for the most part,morning, mornings morning seem
to look good.
Um, I'm gonna take a quick yeah.
Of course halloween's gonna behot, but then it's supposed to
dip back down, but the morningseemed real good.
Saturday's gonna be 38.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to callwork again and be like I might
(23:28):
not be able to come in, but Imean, listen, I'm still going.
I'm a Halloween hunter, I don'tcare how hot it's going to be,
I'm probably going to be.
You got to get out, I'm going toget out, and I'm going to get
out in the morning, which Ihaven't done on Halloween in a
while, because I'm usually likedoing something.
But I said there's no damn way,I am not gonna.
(23:52):
I think 7.30, so 7 o'clock isshooting light, like take full
advantage of sleeping in alittle bit, not having to be up
at 4, yeah.
Yeah, not having to be outcrazy time, and you know it's,
it's a good one for sure.
But, frank, anything going onwith you?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
No, I mean it's basically been the same old I've
been um hunting my buddy'sproperty.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Tell them your story.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, which one?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
There's so many over there.
Um, yeah, so actually, yeah,that was on federal land this
past weekend, so I haven'treally been paying that much
attention to federal land thisyear, so I've been focusing.
I've been seeing really greatdeer where I'm at.
So I've been focusing, tryingto figure out that property and,
(24:46):
you know, put one of those bigones down.
But I did decide to go out onSunday.
There's no hunt in there on onthe federal land on sundays, so
I went just to you know.
Um, you know, throw up a quickstand, make sure everything's
good, move a few cameras towhere I know, especially during
the late season, like rightaround now, I start seeing
(25:09):
really good deer and wouldn'tyou know it.
I set everything up and I'mlike alright, but it's almost
like the same thing, real quick.
So I used to have a stream, Iused to run through one of my
spots.
I get there completely dry,nothing, no tracks, no, nothing,
(25:29):
I'm like.
But I threw up a camera anywaybecause I know they'll be in
there later on.
So I'm like, all right, we'lljust pull one here, make sure,
check all the straps of my treestands, make sure everything's
good.
Walk out to my truck and there'sthe game warden sitting by my
truck.
I'm like he's like.
(25:50):
He's like, hey, how's it going?
I was like good, how are you?
He's like good.
He's like, uh, he's like, so,what's going on with you today?
Like no, no, I was like I'm inhere scouting.
I said I'm not hunting.
He's like, yeah, he's like.
That's one of the reasons whyI'm here.
He's like somebody I guess wasdriving by and saw you or
whatever he goes, and theycalled me.
(26:11):
So, since there's no huntinghere, I wanted to make sure that
you weren't bow hunting.
I was like, look was like, I'mhunting here my whole life.
I get it, I know all the rules.
I said I'm just in herescouting, hanging up cameras.
I was like, as you can tell, Iwas in jeans, a freaking
sweatshirt, like I look nothinglike a hunter.
You know I was like.
(26:33):
I even put a note on mywindshield that says just
scouting.
You know he was like he's like,oh, yeah, he's like like.
I just wanted to make sure Iwas like, and because of that
reason actually, I was tellingyou guys in the group chat like
when, when I go there, I don'teven keep my bow or nothing in
my truck, I'll take everythingout of my truck, so there's no
(26:56):
confusion on what I'm doing,right, you know.
So he was like all right, he'slike.
You know, he's a really niceguy.
He's like oh, you know, he'slike have fun.
You know, did you see anythinggood?
I'm like?
Not really, you know, I'm like,but you know, I know that.
You know, I know that they'llbe in here, so he's like all
right, yeah, he's like have agood day.
You know, I'm like, but youknow, I know the, you know, I
know that they'll be in here, sohe's like all right, yeah, he's
like have a good day, you know,go enjoy yourself, be safe and
good luck, like.
(27:17):
No, I appreciate it.
So I mean, that was a goodexperience, I guess, right
that's good they're out doingtheir job.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Then like, yeah, you're abiding by everything.
It's good to see the man outthere doing this thing uh we?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I've told this story before in the podcast, but I
don't know if I've.
You know, I haven't seen you,ryan, you don't know and I don't
think you guys have heard this,but I was out one day, a
different zone than I hunt, butbianca was hunting, I wasn't
hunting and it was permit season.
And we're in the blind and it'slike prime time and I get a
phone call and it's the freakingwarden sitting at my truck and
(27:56):
he goes hey, listen, I just ranyour license plate and I see
that you don't have, um, youdon't have a permit for this the
zone.
And I go yeah, I know, I'm not,like, I'm not the one hunting,
like my, at the time, my, mygirlfriend is.
And he goes okay, can you puther on the phone?
I have to confirm that.
(28:17):
So then I'm like okay, and likewe're whispering too, because
like yeah, yeah, give Bianca thephone.
And she's like yeah, like youknow, I'm the one hunting.
Like he's like okay, like good,just had to make sure which,
okay, I get it.
You know I'm I'm the onehunting.
Like, yeah, like he's like okay, like good, just had to make
sure, which, okay, I get it.
You at what life man you'rereally.
(28:39):
What would have happened ifdear like what if I would didn't
answer, would you have came out?
and like would you walked outhere, would you, you know, I
don't know if you knew where wewere which I don't think,
because a buddy was letting ushunt his spot and everything
like that would you've waitedthere?
Like you could have like calledme and to answer while you
(28:59):
think someone is hunting too,like especially the fact that I
was doing it legally is likedamn what the hell.
But like I, I also get it too,like if someone's doing it
legally, you know, I feel likeyou do.
Yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow.
It's that one was always like athat's a little extra, that
(29:20):
yeah, like you could have justwaited for me, honestly, but
like probably you could havejust waited, and because I think
it was, I think we had likemaybe 45 minutes left of light,
so it wasn't even like we weregoing to be a couple hours like
it was a good part of the, ofthe hunt and everything like
that.
So um yeah but yeah, um.
So, guys, it is about to behalloween.
(29:45):
Um, anyone have any favoritehalloween?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
I second that Really.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I like the Snickers Peanut Butters that just came
out.
My wife can get them for me.
Man, they're delicious.
I got to bring them to you guys.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Frank, how are you not 500 pounds?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Do you see how much candy I have?
I don't know, I don't know.
I really don't.
I should be to be honest withyou, but I honestly I'm such a
shit like I am.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I have a sweet tooth so I can't give a favorite.
I don't know, I'm such a uh, Idon't even know.
I feel like back in the day Iloved getting, obviously,
skittles and Mike and Ike's Idon't.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I feel like I'll pull my teeth out.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, I love them, though I I love them like.
Of course, you'd always wantthe snicker bars.
Kit kat was big.
Oh yeah, three musketeers.
Or milky way, milky way, hugemilky way fan.
Or Milky Way, milky Way, hugeMilky Way fan.
Um, but Reese's never like Iand I like it.
(30:55):
I just I love peanut butter but, I like peanut butter and jelly
.
Like I don't really I'm not abig like peanut butter and candy
or desserts.
Like I just like peanut butterand jelly sandwiches.
Like I, I love peanut butterand jelly sandwiches, but, um,
yeah, that that's my.
Uh, what happened?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
it's a grape or strawberry strawberry.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I think I'm gonna have to go strawberry I, I, I
like grape, don't get me wrong,but I I love strawberry, like
strawberries in general, like Ijust like so much better.
And then if you put bananas onit and everything like that, now
I'm starting to make myselfhungry again.
Anyone got a favorite Halloweenmovie?
(31:46):
I'm a huge horror guy.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Love horror, me too.
So Friday the 13th, all day.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, I knew you would say that, oh man no.
I don't watch that stuff seelike I'm like the nun and like
the conjurings and stuff arelike always been like my
favorites yeah, I had that camplike right down the road from my
(32:13):
house.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
It actually borders some of that federal property
really oh no shit, like whenthey actually build their stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's pretty wild there we, we try to go up there
for friday the 13th like we'vebeen at the diner obviously so
good, listen, I ate there forthe first time, think like a
year or two.
Bianca and I loved it.
It was phenomenal, likeactually really good food, but
like we try to always go, andyou know, it's just like, listen
(32:40):
, I love Halloween.
If I could have Halloween, like, I look forward to Halloween.
But yeah, friday the 13th is aphenomenal one, frank, you know
what?
I was never a Conuring fan.
Ever since being with bianca,I've turned into one.
I love the nun movie zone, butdemon possession has always
(33:02):
scared the shit out of me stillto this day, like if you're
gonna scare me, that's whatyou're gonna have to put
something on like that.
But I am a classic slasherperson.
Halloween any day, or scream,huge scream huge yeah a fan, um,
but yeah, love, love, love.
(33:22):
Horror movies, squatch I.
I understand why you don't lovethem, though I'm like I, I get
it.
You know I really I wastraumatized as a kid watching
texas chainsaw massacre andeverything no, it's not that
it's.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I'm a, I'm a religious guy.
I love god, yeah, yeah and uh,the the whole genre, that stuff.
I mean it's all right for kids,go ahead, play, have your fun
and stuff, but I anything thatresembles satan I got nothing to
do with, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And then frank brings up the nun and everything like
that.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
This is why we get along so good.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
No it's, it's, no, no , no, I'm just I'm just not,
yeah, but I I me personally inmy life.
That's something I don't need,but I don't begrudge anybody.
Have your fun, do what you wantto do and enjoy yourself, you
know.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I'm.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm the most scariest thing out there.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I'm the squash.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
You don't want to hear that.
How out there in the middle ofthe woods.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You know, I don't mind, cause I'm he's on my side.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
No, it's all good, you know everybody has their
Christmas is my favorite holidaysecond is thanksgiving, but I
love thanksgiving this is thebest time of the year any of
them that are during huntingseason.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Now, right, I mean, it seems like a trend right
there, but but you know I lovefamily togetherness and it's all
.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, tradition always gets the big bucks moving
, so I always look forward to it.
I like the mysterious kind ofyou know the the big full moon
and you know all the hunter'smoon is out there and stuff it.
It gives it that little bit ofuh, you know stuff in the back
of your mind kind of thinkinggoing on.
But yeah, like I said, you knoweverybody has their fun, do
(35:13):
their thing.
We, we all did it growing up,you know.
I mean I used to get egg fightsand everything else.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
But it's all good.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, like I said, it's , it's.
It's all personal preferenceand stuff those movies.
Oh, I'm not a movie guy.
I hardly want.
The last movie I saw was WildHogs.
I'll tell you Really yeah, lastmovie I saw was wild hogs.
I'll tell you really, yeah, I'mnot a movie guy.
I I have more educationallearning stuff and and you know
stuff like that, but I thosemovies make me laugh because I
was like I'd be like yeah, okay,jason, I'll take out my 44 mag
(35:46):
and you're dead.
You know, I mean you're notgetting.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
If that don't, if that doesn't work, I'll park my
backhoe on top of you and you'renot going anywhere, you know?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
it's like how many times is this guy gonna die.
Really come on, yeah, you knowlisten.
Yeah, no, I I get that wholepart.
Listen, the best is whensomeone's running, like for you.
I was watching a movie theother day and someone was
running and and they fell andthey tripped and I'm like it
becomes funny to a point yeah,yeah, like make it realistic,
(36:15):
like, and that's why, like now,horror movies to me just aren't
that as as good as they used tobe.
I mean, obviously, now wheretechnology has become and you
know, now you can lookeverything up and everything's
filmed.
Like I do love about.
Like.
I remember when my mom wouldtell me like jaws was horrifying
.
She said she remembers going tothe movie theater and saying
(36:37):
jaws was like the scariest movieat the time coming out and to
me it's like I love jaws, likethat movie is not scary at all
like it is, it is so good, butit just shows you how like
things have just changed.
And now you can you know oh well, that's not real, that's fake.
Like back then it had that likemystical, like you weren't sure
(36:59):
what was you don't know yeahyou really didn't know.
Um, but yeah, now, huge, hugehalloween person.
Like I said, we we had ourhalloween party yesterday, which
which went really well, um, andthen I got, we have halloween
and then I have another one on.
I'm now november 1st and thenI'm taking time off to to hunt
and everything like that.
But any other um halloweentraditions from you guys, uh,
(37:23):
frank, any, any, any halloweentraditions.
I know the how the kids, I meanhow's your son?
I mean exciting time for himdude.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Very exciting, he we must have went on.
First of all it starts withtrunk retreat for school and
then we have like trailer treat.
That's another one I like everyliterally every two, three days
.
She's like oh, we're shakingtrick-or-treating again.
I'm like, I'm like I only gotone, oh so much.
He just hit me up before hewent to bed.
(37:52):
He was like daddy, if I eatthis, can I have one?
And I was like you have to feedit.
But it's just, it's so much, hehas so much fun, it's just it's
a blast to take them.
And then, like my wife's job,they throw like a huge event for
the kids.
So we took them there and it'sjust, it's just fun just to take
(38:18):
the kids out.
You know, see how excited hegets.
It's just, it's awesome.
So actually I'll, I'll be offon on Halloween.
I'll be hunting in the morning,cause then he's got his school
parade at like two, 30 in theafternoon.
So I'm gonna get my hunting inthe morning and then I'll, I'm
going to go to his parade in theafternoon.
So you.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You dress it up as anything no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
He wanted me to be.
He see he changes on me one man.
He wants to be the iron man,then it's, you know he's.
He's spider-man this year.
So you know, next time it'scaptain america.
You know I'm like, all right,never mind listen, I, I, I feel
him, I completely.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
We have three.
I, bianca and I were.
We're bride and groom becausewe're getting married, but we're
all like bloody and like zombie, whatever.
And then, we're I don't knowwhat we're being on halloween.
We're still figuring that outand then we still have to figure
out the first.
But, like she, literally thewhole entire time I was hunting.
She was at the halloween storetrying to find us costumes.
She goes okay, well, we couldbe this or we could be that.
(39:14):
And I'm like just pick one.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
There's so many options man Like it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, I thought deer hunting was overwhelming for me.
You know having too many buckson camera, but trying to pick
the perfect Halloween costumeright now is, I think, way yeah,
really stressful man.
How about youyan?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
any, any, uh, halloween traditions, uh, just
get in the woods.
I try to hunt.
I mean, yes, like you're saying, it's, that's the kickoff.
Like you know any bow hunter,you got to be in the woods on
halloween.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, no no, it's I'm I'm thinking about.
Uh, I mean I dress up.
Also, like I won't dress upanything crazy.
But I started a new traditionlast year where, like Bianca
will do like some like scarything on me and I'll just go
hunt, and it gets me into likeI'll wear a Michael Myers shirt
underneath my shirt and I hadlike a scream hat on, like last
year, and it's like I'm going tokill.
(40:11):
So I'm telling you I'm gettinginto my listen if they have a
black one.
If I find one, I'm gonna do it,I definitely will.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
I might not be able to see well, but Walking by out
in public land Accidentallypassed a trail camera.
You just got your mouth.
I know where a bunch Of camerasare, I just poke around a bunch
, so be like Well, I know wherea bunch of cameras are.
Yeah, I just poke around abunch of them.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
They'll be like well, I know where I'm not hunting.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Hey Frank, you saw that post a couple weeks back.
I had that white thing in frontof the deer.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, I was like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I don't know, it was probably a moth, but I was like,
look, it's a ghost forHalloween.
You know, get Casper's out infront of my trail camera.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, honestly, if I saw something really, really
creepy, I'd probably leave thatcamera there for good and just
not look at it?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'm good, especially the further out in the middle of
nowhere.
You get like nah.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I'm good.
Yeah, see I.
What I would do is I wouldspend it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I'd be like hey guys, let's all go, let's all go
scout this spot together.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, hey, you, you guys go first, I'll follow you
around yeah yeah, scream if youneed me, that's it.
Um, but all right, guys, listen, it was a pleasure to have you
guys on as, as usual, the teamguys, you guys are always on
ryan.
We we got to get you for a fullepisode in the off season where
(41:46):
we'll break down a lot morethose breakdowns are usually we.
We go anywhere from an hour totwo hours, um, and we'll do a
full dive on the fam, like howyou got into hunting and you
know the, your first lessons andyour first year and everything
like that, and then the storiesof your, your biggest deer and
everything like that.
But I appreciate you um comingon and everything like that Um
(42:10):
you know, and like that's thebest of luck to you, uh, this
year.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
And definitely hope to meet you in person and
everything like that too, aswell, For sure, yeah, I mean
definitely in the same areas, Ithink hunting sometimes.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
So we'll link up.
Yeah, we definitely will, andeveryone out there you know.
Happy Halloween, best of luck.
The rut is literally rightaround the corners.
Swatch, go, go, kill one out inohio and I I hope we're all
dropping, uh dropping some bucksin the next couple weeks to
come.
So, um, you know everyone, goodluck out there, uh, stay safe
and uh, we'll see you guys nexttime.
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