From Buck to Eggnog: Its Time For Christmas

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This episode celebrates the intertwining of hunting traditions and Christmas cheer. The hosts share personal hunting experiences, reflect on cherished family traditions, and discuss favorite holiday movies, all while contemplating how the spirit of the season has evolved over the years. 

• Sharing memorable hunting experiences and successes 
• Breaking down the effectiveness of various broadheads used this season 
• Reflecting on the significance of holiday family traditions 
• Debating favorite Christmas movies and their nostalgic value 
• Discussing the changes in how families celebrate the holidays over the years 
• Looking ahead to the New Year, with aspirations for hunting and personal growth

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That's why your tagline by JCL.
Don't know what that mountainis doing, don't know what that
afternoon is doing.
I accidentally drifted my canoebetween a sow and a cub and she
like, charged and hit like theback of the canoe and hit his
head hit the ground before hisass hit begging and crying to go

(01:05):
with my grandfather, go with myfather on these deer drives.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know, the last trip over I shot a great Cape
Buffalo with my bow Chargingbluegrass, and then the whooping
.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
And then you hear a body drop Boys.
It's been a.
It feels like it's been foreversince we've been together.
I mean, I think we've now twoweeks off from not talking and
having a Field Notes update andthat's the longest we've gone
without sitting down and talkingon the camera and about since

(01:36):
season started.
Basically, how's everyone doing?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Doing good man.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Doing good.
Well, we have a lot to talkabout.
It is our christmas episode.
Half of you know it's.
It's been a great year.
Things keep going.
You look at frank, you still gotthe uh, still got the deer all
christmas out and everythinglike that.
I had to throw the santa hat onand it's crazy how quickly

(02:06):
christmas has snuck up to us,because I can't every.
You know, I usually buy, youknow, lights and everything like
that and I'll, I'll put itaround here and I kept saying,
oh, like I got time, I got time,I got time.
And then, literally last weekwe're out for bianca's sister's
birthday and they're like, yeah,christmas is next week.
And I'm like, and I'm literallyat the table.

(02:26):
I started ordering all thegifts at the table, like I'm on
amazon, like trying to get achristmas gift list together for
, like to send to, like myfamily and everything like that
order people's gifts.
And I'm like, where has thetime gone?
It's here, where everyonelistening, it's, it's, it's one
day out, so, merry christmas,everyone uh, listening, uh, it's

(02:49):
that great time of the year.
I mean, I love.
I love christmas, I love theholidays.
Um, we've said a bunch of timesin this podcast, I think from
from when hunting season starts,it is the best time of the year
.
You have hunting, you havefootball starting up, you have
hockey starting up, people whoare basketball fans, you have

(03:11):
basketball starting up, and thenwe have halloween, thanksgiving
, christmas, new year's, and theonly downside is that that
means season's almost over andthen and that's about it.
So, boys, any, any, uh anyupdates?
I know we.
I know we have some updates.
Let's get to the updates beforewe get to the christmas talk.
Who?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
wants to go yeah, who wants to go first?

Speaker 5 (03:36):
I'm I'm gonna kill a buck eventually, but eventually.
Up until that happens, I'm justgoing to keep shooting.
Does?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
nothing wrong with that man that's doe number six
correct?
I think seven okay.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
So let me see, yeah, because I've shot the mule deer
in Colorado with themuzzleloader, five with the bow
here and then one more with themuzzleloader here no bucks, but
got all the does, it's all goodhonestly, man, besides the first
two does, besides the mule deerin colorado and then my first

(04:18):
two does here in jersey with thebow, every deer.
since then I didn't want toshoot, but then they started to
get spooky and I'm like either Ican wait here and get busted
and go home with no meat or Ican just shoot this deer and
bring home some meat.
It just keeps happening thesame way.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean, I think that's a.
That's a pretty good thing tohave, though I think a lot of
people listening is like man.
I would love to have thatproblem.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I'm not complaining, trust me, but it's still working
.
I have some things brewing.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ican fill a tag late season, but
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, still plenty of time, man.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, that's the good thing about Jersey here we
still have plenty of plenty oftime to to get it done.
Um, you know we go untilmajority of what at least half
of the zones, maybe even more,go to at least second week of
february.
Um, if not, you go till, Ithink, january 31st, um, if

(05:20):
you're in a zone that doesn't goto that mid February mark.
So plenty of time to to stillget it done.
Um, a buck down, and I know howyou hunt and I know you know
we've talked and everything likethat.
Um, you know, and, yeah, I, Iknow no doubt you're, it's going
to come at some point, you know, before the season's done.
You're definitely have.

(05:40):
I'll say definitely you'll.
You'll get on a a a nice buck.
You'll definitely have.
I'll say definitely you'll geton a nice buck.
You'll definitely have thatopportunity.
I for sure think you'll havethat opportunity.
I know it's evaded you so far,but you know it's a nice
shooting dose and I think youwrote in a group or wrote to me
personal.
Every deer with the archeryequipment has been with a

(06:03):
different broadhead, which isvery unique because you don't
see too many people.
Um, everyone's very like you.
Stick with what you know,especially in archery, and
you've got it done with everysingle um different broadhead
that you have.
So kind of speak on that andlike kind of walk us through a
little bit of those, thoseresults of you know, using the
different broadheads.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
So when it comes to the muzzleloader side of things
because both deer that I shotwith the muzzleloader were with
different bolts as well um,honestly, both those, both those
loads, did the exact same thing.
The deer just crumbled.
So there really wasn't too muchmore to say on that.
Um, I was using the uh hornadyboard drivers and then the

(06:44):
federal uh power locks.
Both were fantastic.
When it comes to the moreinteresting archery side of
things, um, of the five deerthat I've shot so far this year,
first day that I hunted injersey, I shot two with the
sever 15 um, which you and Iactually spoke about.
Like I actually had very poorresults.

(07:06):
Um, with the sever one five,which I'll talk about in a
minute.
Uh, from there I shot a doe withthe, the grim reaper, uh one
and three ace mechanical.
Then I shot a doe with the IronWill Single Bevel 125.
And then this last one I shotwith a 2AD Exodus.

(07:27):
So excuse me, I just got backfrom the gym the Severo 155, the
first doe that I shot with it.
It performed as to be expectedJust blew through the shoulder,
cut the heart in half, logs inthe off-side shoulder, ran 60
and died.
The second doe that I shot,which was only a few minutes

(07:49):
later.
To this day I don't understandwhat happened.
The exit hole on that deer wasit almost looked like the blade
had completely closed, which Iknow is impossible for those
heads, and even though that wasa well-placed shot, I had to
come back the next day to findher.
Um, so that was veryunderwhelming.

(08:13):
The grim reaper first time evershoot first and only time ever
shooting a deer with grim reaperuh, worked phenomenal, perfect,
double long at 13 yards, ran 10yards and died.
Iron Will, similar to the sever.
I was very surprised.
I was not happy with theresults.
That was 22 yards, pretty hardquarter.

(08:34):
Two Punched through the frontshoulder, right through the scap
, double long, right behind theoffside shoulder, logged eight
inches in the ground.
On the other side she ran 100yards, which I was fine with
that.
But there was next to no bloodat all, like to the point where
we actually I knew she was deadbecause I heard her crash.

(08:56):
I stopped trying to find theblood because there was none and
I just started gritting and Ifound her 50 yards ahead of
where I had lost blood.
And then the highlight of theseason in my opinion when it
comes to broadheads, the qad.
So I actually shot that deertwice.
The first shot was with an ironwill and I had to do some crazy

(09:19):
matrix stuff out of my saddleto get the first shot off at
like 15 yards.
I pulled the shot off forward,hit her in the brisket.
She ran 33 yards, turns around,faces me and uh, I put a qad
frontal at 33 yards, rightalongside her neck, in between
both shoulders, and it prettymuch went all the way through
her and I have never seencarnage like that.

(09:41):
I've never seen a blood traillike that.
That was by far the highlightof all the broadheads that I
shot this year is the qad exodus.
So I wouldn't be surprised if Istart shying away from the iron
wills just because of that theissue with, uh, the blood, like
the lack of blood and startgoing more towards that three

(10:01):
blade qad and it's kind ofinteresting.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know, you hear so much of the positivity to
especially those two.
You look at iron will and youlook at sever and you kind of
you know, when everyone, a lotof people, talk, fix, you're
talking, you're naming iron willand I think sever has gotten to
that that element, especiallywith lust, um archer view.
I mean he has those thingspegged as the you know best

(10:29):
mechanical and everything likethat.
Um, and you know with me andyou know frank, I mean look at
how much we use sever and youknow I've been using sever for
years now and the success thatwe have.
I mean I've never used the 1.5um.
You know I don't know if frankyou have.
I know I used the 2.0 for thebefore the, obviously the hybrid

(10:51):
came out this year.
You know we've had nothing butgreat with the 2.0s and the, the
hybrid.
But I know, ethan, you've usedthe.
This is not your first yearusing the, the 1.5s, but like,
what I'm trying to say is thesetwo top, you know brands or
whatever you want to call bothhad malfunction.
I know I've definitely heard ofum iron will having a very poor

(11:16):
blood trail.
I believe don't quote me um,but I think, um, oh my god, ch
Chris from only bows, I think hehad an issue or something like
that when he went to uh toAfrica.
Um, so you know it's.
It's just one of those things,like it's unfortunate things
happen, um, and this is why Ilike to tell people, whether

(11:39):
using fixed or you're usingmechanical, there is always a
positive and there's always a anegative to both using both.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
But, um, yeah, I've heard great things about uh grim
reaper as well you know when Iuh had my whole endeavor in
colorado this year with my bullyeah, I'm a big believer in
every everything you do, whetherit's success or failure.
Like you learn from it and I'llnever forget tracking that bull
for mile after mile after mileand eventually not finding him,

(12:12):
but just wishing that I had moreblood, like constantly, every
step of the way, wishing thatthere was more, wishing that I
wasn't just looking at pinbricks of blood and uh, I really
I took that with me andgenerally in the past, all the
deer that I've shot with ironwheels I've I've seen them die.

(12:32):
So there was no tracking.
Um, I did notice, with all thedeer that I've shot with them,
that there was a lack of a bloodtrail, but I didn't care
because they were dead in 40yards.
This one definitely opened myeyes a bit, because I always
bring all my stuff back to outwest and I think, man, if I were
taking a 60 yard poke on a bullelk with one of these and now

(12:55):
I'm up at 11 000 feet and I'mfive miles from the truck, now I
have to try and find this bullwith no blood or very little
blood.
That was a big turn off to mewhen I actually had to resort to
gritting, even though I knewthe deer was dead when it got to
the point there was no blood.
So I I wouldn't be surprised ifI actually don't utilize iron

(13:17):
wills anymore.
Just structurally I thinkthey're the best head out there,
but if they're not giving youblood on the ground, man, it
doesn't really matter whatthey're doing inside.
If you can't find that animal.
It's a big piece of it.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, no, I mean, I would, I would agree with with
that.
And you know it's funny, we allyou know a bunch of us, we
that's what, that's what wewanted to use this year too was
Aaron Will and everything likethat.
So, um, you know, it's just avery interesting thing to see.
But that's the cool thing aboutshooting so many broads,

(13:52):
broadheads a year, where I thinkI always say I want to use
multiple, but I can never getoff of of sever.
But, um, as you get to see allthe positives, all the negative,
you get to really you'retesting out every single
broadhead in your you know, inyour quiver and it's um, you
know, you get to get back and belike, hey, this is what worked

(14:13):
for me, this was what not.
You know, you get to break downon what it was like tracking
those deer, what was the youknow destruction or whatever
maximum blood loss and andeverything and the cut diameter.
Like you really get to go tothe scientific grittiness which
I think a lot of us like inarchery, um, and we, we love

(14:36):
that aspect of it, but it's sucha hard thing to do because
usually a lot of people onlyshoot one and that's really
about it, yeah yeah, I will sayI mentioned to the wife a couple
times already that as astocking stuffer I was
interested in trying those severhybrids.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
So if I am able to, you know, put one more down this
year, I wouldn't be surprisedif it's with another broad,
different broadhead.
Um look, I've always likedsever.
My whole thing with sever is II just don't like the bands.
That's the one thing I don'tlike about that design.
But I'll.
I'm the first one to say likestructurally, there's no
mechanical that competes, likeat all.

(15:16):
I just hate bands.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
So what is it about the bands that you don't like?

Speaker 5 (15:21):
I'm curious honestly, the biggest thing.
I have no issues with them interms of, uh, fear of opening up
on game or anything like that.
I've never had an issue withthat.
I just hate putting them in myquiver because I've actually had
times where, like I'll have ablade deploy when I'm putting it
in my quiver in the darkwithout realizing it and now,

(15:43):
unless I have the little toolthat that head is shot.
I've actually had that andthat's one thing that I just
can't stand about.
The design.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
So I haven't had that issue with the 2.0, but I've
had that issue with the hybrid.
But I don't know if Frank can,I actually can get it undone
with my fingers.
Franken, I actually can get itundone with my fingers.
Um, I don't know if theypurposely meant that for the,
the hybrid to be able to kind ofundo it a little easier um than

(16:15):
the 2.0 or 1.5.
But I've also there's only beenone times where I've actually
broken the band and it'sactually open and I actually
dropped the whole entire broad,the whole entire arrow out of
the tree.
You know, everything burstedopen at that at that point.
But, um, I've noticed puttingit like putting an arrow back in

(16:37):
or something like that has beena little more um difficult and
I have definitely opened, orcame close to opening up, some,
some broadheads with the hybrid.
But, like I said, I've beenactually able to pinch them
together and be able to move, tomove it back in um, and I don't
know if that's something thatsever purposely did, um, because

(16:59):
it you did need the tool everyother time um trying to do that
and that's always been a pain inthe butt, um, so, yeah, I mean,
brother, keep on, keep on going.
And you know, like I said,you're, your time's coming,
you're gonna, you're gonna getone.
Um, we're pretty confident inyou.

(17:19):
You know your, your shootingpercentage right now is pretty
damn high too, too as well.
So you got to, you got to lovethat.
Just keep on going.
And you know, you and you andFrank together have just
absolutely just I think you guysboth combined have shot more
deer than the rest of the teamput together, and we're, and you

(17:39):
got an elk too.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
So you know, you guys are half an elk.
I can't give myself all that.
I didn't find them.
Yeah, someone else found them,I still got it.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
You got half an elk, um, you know, but listen, it's.
It's been a great, great timefor for you, and you know well,
we might as well segue into theother guy who's still continuing
to to get it done and I mean,is this a donut, is this another
buck, or is it a doe and a buck?

(18:14):
Since we last talked, I can't Ican't.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, it's, it's just a buck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, uh, you know it wasbasically same old story.
You know the cameras were goingoff and I was getting ready for
a six-day firearm and went outthe first two days and it was, I
mean, slow, the weather sucked.
So, fortunately for me, youknow, I can only go like the

(18:40):
first two days.
So I was like, all right, well,I'm not going to be able to get
out until Saturday.
Well, I just continue to watchthe cameras on this one um piece
of property that I've beenprivate property, I've been
hunting, I've been doing reallygreat at this year, thank god
for that and uh, yeah, so I wentin and you know I put up a
ladder stand for gun season inthere because I really didn't

(19:02):
want to mess with the saddle toomuch, you know, with with the
gun going in there.
So, um, just watch the cameras.
And I was getting some prettydecent bucks that were coming in
either early in the morning orlike just that dark, and all of
a sudden, this, this 10 pointerthat never seen him before.

(19:24):
He's really high, got shorttimes though he shows up and I
really thought I was going tosee that there because he was
showing up morning afternoon.
I was like all right, so I wentin there and over there, you
know we've been baiting them.
So, oh, I think I have my buddycome in with me, my buddy Jay.

(19:45):
We threw some more bait outbait at his spot and once you
know, the weather turns and it'sfreaking cold as shit out there
.
It's like 15 degrees.
The temperature drops now,which I didn't mind.
But you know, saturday comesover.

(20:06):
I was like alright, I'm goingto go out first thing.
And actually the buck I shot letme back up for a second the
buck I shot showed up the nightbefore I shot him.
He was there like I thinkaround like 4.35 that night.
I was like alright, so I waslooking forward to the morning
hunt.
I was all pumped, got up early,drove to my buddy jay's house.

(20:29):
I'm like all right, let's go.
He was like he was alreadydressed.
But he's like dude, he's likeit's so freaking cold, like I'm
not going.
I'm like wait, it's the lastday, like let's go.
He was like nope, he's likelisten, like you go out and you
get one.
Like good for you, brother, I'mnot gone.
I was like all right, so so Iget in the tree, stand about,

(20:49):
like I think it was around likequarter quarter after five.
I think I was up, I was in thereand I was actually warm, had no
problems with that and uh, Iwas sitting there for, uh,
waiting for first first light.
First light comes, here comes adoe and a spike, you know,
right on the bait pile, goingback and forth, back and forth.

(21:12):
I'm watching them.
I'm like alright, I'm notseeing too much else, just those
two.
So the spike leaves and the doestayed there, so she stays.
I'm watching her and all of asudden I can hear I think it was
around like 7, it was likeclose to 7, 30 I think and I

(21:33):
hear walking coming from behindme.
So I really didn't want to movetoo much because I'm kind of
out in the open.
So I just kind of turned myhead and I see that buck I had
on the camera the night beforeand I thought he was a.
I thought he was a big eight.
He ends up being a nine.
When I actually went back andactually checked the cameras and

(21:54):
everything after I shot him anduh, I could see him.
He's standing 20 yards behindme just staring at her and I got
my gun in my hand, but I'mfacing the other way and so I
was like, all right, frank,whatever you do, don't freaking
move.
So he takes.

(22:15):
I think I was telling Squatchor it might have been you too,
mike he would take two or threesteps and stop.
And it seemed like he wouldstop for like five freaking
minutes, take two or three stepsand stop.
And it seemed like he wouldstop for like five fricking
minutes, take two or three stepsand stop.
And he was looking, he was juststaring at her and I knew if I
didn't move I was going to get ashot at them.

(22:35):
So I was like, all right, likeyou got the gun, like don't rush
it.
He walked.
I had to basically let him walkpast me.
He was only like 13 yards and Idid not want to move to shoot
him.
So I basically let him pass meall the way.
He gets on the bait as soon ashe drops his head.

(22:57):
Since the gun was already in myhand, I just pick it up.
I put it right on his heart andyou know the rest is history.
I pulled the trigger, hefricking, and he does the high
mule kick and I knew I hit himhard and he run.
He actually runs about like uhhe's.

(23:18):
He ran probably about like 20yards and he was going to fall.
I believe he was probably goingto fall, but I think in my head
I got antsy and I shot himagain and I mean that shot
really put him down, you know.
But uh, you know, I think itwas just like I was all hyped up
and everything.

(23:38):
But uh, yeah, I took end oftaking two shots but he dropped
within 30 yards and uh, yeah,man, it was, it was a wrap, it
was a beautiful nine pointer.
I call him and actually when Iwas in the tree stand, as soon
as I took the second shot, myphone goes off.
My buddy jay goes.
He's sitting in his kitchenwith his cup of coffee.
Like, tell me that wasn'tfucking you and I'm like.

(23:59):
And I'm like, no, it was me.
He's like he literally peckedme.
Like what did you shoot?
And I'm like at first I didn'tknow it was a nine.
I was like, I was like I shotthe big eight.
And he starts blowing up myphone.
I knew it, I knew I should havewent out, son of a bitch.
You know I was already dressed,you know like.
And I was like, yeah, well,since we're on the phone, like

(24:21):
do you mind bringing the quad up?
I was like I've seen him fall.
And he was like, yeah, do youmind bringing the quad up?
I was like I seen him fall andhe was like, yeah, yeah, no,
I'll bring the quad up.
So we came up and took ourpictures and everything and he
was a beautiful deer man.
He ended up being a nine, sohe's actually I dropped them off
the other day.
He's at the taxidermist.
I'm going to get them mounted.
So, yeah, man it.

(24:42):
It was, uh, I think it was bysherlock man.
I mean, that property is.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's insane, it really is that's two bucks in
jersey, two bucks in new york.
Yep, four bucks in total.
Yep, um, and two does, two does.
Yeah, geez, and you still.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
We still got some time left yeah, and I'm still
getting, I mean, some beautifulbucks on camera that I want to
try to.
Hopefully I can get out umsometime this week, coming with
the muzzleloader after theholidays and stuff, and you
never know, I might get anotherone down mike when's
muzzleloading shotgun in so, um,now I think they they just went

(25:28):
through the dough days like thepermit shotgun.
So now that ended, butmuzzleloader goes, actually
muzzleloader goes all the wayinto january.
I think it's like this.
I think it's like the secondweek of january it ends, but
then, like then, after that, thepermit shotgun picks back up
that's just so confusing.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's the one that's like this doesn't why.
Why stop start, stop start.
It just confuses the hell outof people.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I mean, I see that you know they probably do,
because, like that's how theyget more money, right?
Oh, you want to go out, ofcourse, now you can use a
shotgun.
You know they probably dobecause, like that's how they
get more money, right?
Oh, you want to go out, ofcourse.
Oh, now you can use a shotgun.
You know, like I don't know.
It's, it's crazy bro exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And then, brother squash, I mean I think it the
luck of the magic of me being onthe white tail advantage
podcast the very next day.
I mean you smoke a.
You smoke a dough.
I mean you had a busy.
You had yourself a very busyday.
Um, you know, and you're ableto you know, why don't you let
everyone know your, your storyof your, uh, successful hunt?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
yeah, so, uh, it was monday morning at 2 am.
I got called in.
I worked for a highwaydepartment for years and you
know we're on snow patrol.
So when we get a storm I'm upout.
Well, hours of the night wasout plowing and I got home and I
was driving home a coupleorchard lots that are on the way

(27:00):
back to the house.
I see deer feeding on the wayhome.
I'm like, oh boy, look at themall, they're up here, look at
them here, they're here.
So you know I'm like, okay,well, it's good to see the
population still there.
And you know I had been out acouple days before that.
But I kicked two up when Iwalked into my stand.
I probably could have shotthrough the brush at one, but I

(27:21):
didn't want to take a risky shot, so I was like, ah man, you
know I got the eight pointerwith the bow, I really need
another deer, I'd like to getone with the muzzleloader.
So where I live it's a big,huge orchard out behind me,
apples, and uh, I got a nicewooded lot right next to the

(27:42):
house and a big backyard.
I let my four beagles out and Ilooked down in the woods and
there's deer running around downin there and like chasing each
other and I'm like, is there abuck down there?
I don't see any horns, they'rejust running around playing in
the snow.
So I'm like, I'm like I don'tknow.
I said, well, I'm not going toshoot him right here by the

(28:03):
house, let me take a walk outinto the orchard.
So I ran down, grabbed amuzzleloader out of the truck
and I threw the primer cap inand my backyard's about probably
100 yards long.
So I walk out, I get out intothe main orchard there and I'm
standing in the first row and Ican see the woodlot because the

(28:24):
snow has got everything lit upso good.
You can see them moving arounddown there and I see them
trotting out towards the orchard.
I said, well, I better getready.
So I leaned against an oldtrusty apple tree and the first
doe come bounding out from thewoodlot.
Actually, I have a stand rightthere.
She ran right out in front ofmy stand and I whistled and she

(28:46):
was already into the main partof the orchard and she didn't
stop.
But I looked out and I seenanother one come out and I
whistled again and that onestopped and I looked her over
real quick and I said, yeah,that's one of those huge doe
that are around here, I take theshot.
So I just touched it off andmuzzle loaders, it's so much

(29:08):
smoke and I thought you know.
I said, well, it looked like agood hit.
I said, okay, the dogs are out,let me run back to the house,
get them inside before I gobringing a bloody old deer back
through the yard.
And uh, I'll go back out, lookfor her.
So I went back to house, got thedogs in, I grabbed a hold of

(29:29):
the stuff, I went back out, Iwalked down and I see the first
set of tracks coming out of thethicket and I'm like, okay,
there's no blood.
What the heck?
Then I walked down a littlefurther.
I'm like, okay, there's anotherset of tracks, no blood.
What did I do?
I said don't tell me, I missed.
I had a good rest andeverything.
But what ran through the back ofmy mind is um, yeah, you didn't
shoot the muzzleloader fromlast year, so maybe it's off.

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So I start panicking a littlebit.
I walk down and there's anotherset of tracks just beyond that
last set and there's bloodeverywhere.
And I went oh, okay, I think Igot her, good, there's a lot.
And I went oh okay, I think Igot her, good, there's a lot of
blood.
So I started walking up overthe hill.
I went about 45 yards and, boy,she was spewing blood
everywhere.
And I got to tell you I'm usingTraditions Shockwave Bullet

(30:17):
that's 250 green with I shootloose powder, loose 777 powder,
and I measure it out to 90grains and I'll tell you what,
when that muzzleloader goes off,it's like 150 grains with that
loose powder.
I don't know if it's got abetter reaction than the
pre-formed pellets, but thatsucker thumps and I walked over.

(30:41):
I mean the amount of blood.
I'm sure you guys sure saw theshort I posted.
Oh yeah, but there oh yeah,there was blood everywhere.
Look like you were walkingaround with a paint can.
And I got over to her and I sawthe size of her and I was like
holy cow, man, it's another oneof them, monster swamp donkeys
from out here in the swamps ofthe origins.
And, uh, their swamp donkeysfrom out here in the swamps of

(31:06):
the orchards.
And, uh, I was just verygrateful.
I worked hard all day and I wasable to get my my second deer
that I needed.
And, uh, what's great aboutright now?
Season is closed.
It was that tuesday, it closedafter that monday.
So, um, now we have a littlebreak and then the 26th
muzzleloader bow and, I believe,crossbow open up and it goes

(31:29):
from the 26th to the 1st ofJanuary and, um, if they call it
like the holiday hunt, soyou're allowed to go out and,
like New York State is, you can,if you have any tags left, you
can, can use any tag that youwant.
Um, so I'm off, I'm off, uh,you know, till the to the new
year's.
Uh, I, I'm hoping to go back outand maybe shoot a, either a

(31:53):
good buck or a a doe.
My cameras have been craplately.
I haven't seen any bucks.
I've seen doe and uh a littleconcerned, but I don't know,
sometimes they just lay down fora while, they don't move too
much.
But I'm hoping that I get outthis this, uh, after the holiday
here with everybody.

(32:13):
And uh, I got a good friend ofmine too that wants to go out.
He's, he's behind, you know,getting things done this year.
But uh, I told him, I said, hey, you got a couple days, I'll be
home, so if you want to go withme, come on out so he might tag
along with me too.
We'll see if we can't get him adeer, but I'm just hoping for
some more.
I'd like to have at least three, sometimes four, in the freezer

(32:36):
, if I can, and this way I gotenough meat because I like to
make jerky.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I like to make jerky, I like to make bratwurst, I
like to do all kinds of stuffwith the meat and and, uh,
nothing like having freshvenison.
So that's for sure, for sure.
Um, yeah, no.
And and then you know, likewe've talked about before, then
you know, the predator seasonstarts here.
Um, same with us too.
I'm pretty excited for that.
Now it's a colder days.
I've had a bunch of coyotesstart to pop up on camera and
everything like that.
So I'm I'm looking forward togetting out there.

(33:13):
But myself I'm trying to get atleast one more doe and
hopefully one more buck downwith the bow.
Um, you know, and that would bea perfect scenario.
Get one more dough, one morebuck.
Perfect scenario.
Good, a good, happy scenario.
Get one more buck and a.
You know I'll take that, causeI need the meat is just a dough.

(33:36):
So, whichever, whichever comes,I'll be pretty happy.
It's been a successful seasonfor all of us here.
So you know, and it's uh, youknow it's been a good time, but
I mean, I think that's the uhfor the, the update on on
everyone.
Now, let's, let's get into somechristmas talk.
Um, it's that time of the year,it's literally here.

(33:58):
First of all, frank, stand up,let's, let's.
Let's see the ugly sweater allright there you go, go boy.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
You slay that freaking jaws.
My favorite, one of my favoritemovies jaws is a classic.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
It is one of my favorites as well.
Um, and then you know, we lookat ethan here and this, this guy
didn't have a uh, so he'srocking the classic blue, right
blue, yep, dark blue yeah andthen you know, the squash has
got his, uh, his, just a classicshirt.
On what?
What's it?
What's what's the shirt?
Say caterpillar.

(34:33):
There you go, caterpillar therewe go.
That's one of the machines thatI I run and then for everyone
who did it, you know americanmike's party.
I mean, I rock this thing andthis thing's pretty dope and
this, this is the best part takemy can when I'm having a drink.
Let's put it right here thereyou go this thing everywhere now

(34:57):
, at least for christmas.
Because, being hands-free, Iwas able to have a drink.
I was drinking, me and Biancawere playing pool, so I was able
to shoot pool.
When I went to my turn to havea drink, put it back in.
I was able to dab people up init.
I was able to eat.
It was great being hands-freeand also having an open drink

(35:19):
right on your stomach area, sothat was pretty cool.
It's a big fact of why I lovethis shirt.
But I'm also having not a bigeggnog fan, like I drink it this
time of the year, but that'sthe drink that I've been
drinking.
Eggnog and Captain Morgan wasmy drink of choice tonight.
So on that, any of you guys,big eggnog fans, what?

(35:43):
What's a little bit of youryour christmas festivity routine
that the each of you guys so I,uh, I don't drink alcohol, just
a personal thing.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
But I'm a big eggnog dude and this is the first
holiday season living, you know,with the wife, so we're making
all these uh traditions as we go.
And, dog, she made somehomemade eggnog the other day.
I fell in love all over again.
It was wildly good, so good.

(36:15):
So that's definitely going tobe a tradition on our end over
there.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
That's pretty good, how about you spot?
yeah well, uh, yesterday I spentmost of the day being italian
heritage.
Uh, my, my grandfather and mygrandmother always made what
they call tufali, and that is anitalian wine cookie, and it's
made with red wine.

(36:40):
You can use any red wine youwant.
Some people use more salad,some use a moscato.
I just use a good with red wine.
You can use any red wine youwant.
Some people use more salad,some use a moscato.
I just use a good dry red winethat I usually drink and uh,
it's flour oil, red wine, alittle bit of salt, some baking
soda, and uh, you mix it all upin a mixer, you make a dough,
you roll it out, you cut them inlittle pieces and uh, fry them

(37:03):
in oil and you take them out andyou drizzle warm honey over
them.
You can put sprinkles on themand and then you make what the
italians call struffola, and astruffola is like a round, white
, blondish kind of, uh a doughyball with honey on it also and
sprinkles, and you eat the winecrawlers with the stroofly and

(37:25):
uh, you know that's an olditalian tradition that we do
also.
I won't do it this year becausewe're going to my mom's for, uh
, christmas eve, but usually Itry to do the dish of the seven
fishes, um, you know, and makethat, and I'd usually do that on
a Christmas Eve, drink lots ofwine and just do my thing.

(37:48):
It is what it is.
I can't believe it's herealready.
We're staring it down thebarrel of the Christmas sleigh,
sitting outside ready to rockand roll here I can't believe it
too.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
It's crazy For us, mean, our biggest thing is
really kind of like ethan biancaand I are coming out with our
their own traditions, and so oneof them is we go to new york
city every single christmas.
We go see the tree, we go toour favorite bar and everything
like that.
Well, because it was so coldyesterday, we actually canceled
that.
So we moved it back because,honestly, it was, I think, nine

(38:30):
or eight degrees and, being inNew York City in those wind
tunnels, I mean I went to workbefore we decided to push it
back.
I got my put my sick layers on.
I literally, whenever it'ssuper cold, and you know I'm
cold, I'm putting my sick layerson.

(38:50):
So I had my base layers,everything like that.
And then I started packing onclothes, like I went to work
prepared because we wereliterally going to go from work.
I was going to drive.
Here we're going to jump on thetrain and just head down Like I
was fully prepared.
Here we're going to jump on thetrain and just head down Like I
was fully prepared.
I was in my hunting mode, youknow, but for her I didn't.
You know, I have way more, Ithink, winter stuff for hunt,
just for hunting, not even formyself to wear outside, but just

(39:13):
for hunting.
So I'm a little more preparedin that sense.
But, like she was, probably shewas going to be miserable.
I probably was going to stillbe miserable to like walk around
in New York city.
You know why don't we just doit on a day that it's going to
be a little warmer?
We still want that nice coldweather, but just not probably

(39:34):
one or two degrees with the windchill or maybe even gosh forbid
negative.
Like who wouldn't want that?
That would ruin the the fun.
So that's kind of like me andBianca's.
And then I don't know, likechristmas eve is like we just
celebrate everything.
Christmas eve, like christmasday to me, yeah, like we just
kind of relax more, like I'mactually working this christmas.

(39:54):
Um, I kind of work almost everychristmas, uh, because we do so
much on christmas eve and Ithen will go spend the time with
, uh, bianca's family andeverything like that.
But Christmas Eve to me and myfamily and you know, has been
the thing where we go all out,kind of Christmas Eve with
dinner, the present, majority ofthe presents.
Now that we're older and Biancaand I don't have kids yet we'll

(40:16):
.
We just open all the presents,but you know, when we were
younger we'd open some of themand then the rest on christmas
and everything like that.
So that's kind of really aboutit.
You know, um still learning andtrying to create our own
traditions as well, of course,big movies.
So that's going to be in thenext.
What are your top fivechristmas movies that each view
and who is die hard?

(40:38):
A true Christmas movie.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Yes, absolutely what your top five movies are.
First thing I was going to saywas Die Hard.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yep.
Bianca has yet to see.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Die Hard yet.
So that is a movie we are goingto be watching, hopefully
tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
So I mean I'll have this.
I'll start this off.
I'm a huge movie guy.
I mean there's so many greatChristmas movies and it's
there's going to be some greatones left off.
But for me personally, I am ahuge fan of and this is in no
particular order because I can'teven list them in the top five

(41:20):
but national lampoon's christmasvacation.
That is obviously one of myfavorites.
Um, santa, the original santaclaus.
Um, I may even put santa.
I don't want to put santa claus2 in there, but I love santa
claus 2 as well.
As, especially as a kid.
That's like one of the moviesI'd watch a hundred times over.

(41:41):
Um, I know you, someone in hereis going to say christmas story
, so I'm not going to saychristmas story.
I'm going to put fourchristmases with vince vaughn.
One of you guys are going toput die hard, so I'm not going
to put die hard either.
Man, I don't, I don't reallyknow.
Huge, huge.

(42:02):
Um fred claus, big, big.
Into fred claus.
Um, I'm trying to think like,oh, I watched him for the first
time in a very long time andthis is a classic and I can't
believe I forgot about it.
Jingle all the way with arnoldschwarzenegger.
I remember watching it as a kidand I haven't watched it since

(42:25):
and I found it on Disney and Iwatched it with the kids and I
forgot how much of a good moviethat was.
It brought back so many childmemories.
That movie is an absoluteclassic in my opinion.
Was that four or five?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I lost count.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I think it was five, and then I'm going to throw one
more because it's the old, Ithink, rudolph movie and all of
us.
I don't know if Ethan wouldremember that, but it's kind of.
It's not like animated, it'skind of like oh man, it's clay
animated, it's a like animated.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
it's kind of like oh man, it's clay animated, it's a
clay animated one.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I remember watching that constantly and I loved that
movie as a little kid and Istill think today like that is
such a great classic music movieof mine.
But who's next what we got inyour guys top five?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
who wants to go?

Speaker 5 (43:27):
I, uh, I honestly I don't think I even have a top
five.
I'm not a big movie guy.
I'm not like a big christmasmovie guy.
But what I will say is, fromthe year I was born to I don't
know, until I was probably like16, 17, 18.
Me and my mom would watch theoriginal Rudolph movie every

(43:47):
year around Christmas Eve.
And then there were a couple ofyears in there where I didn't,
because I got older and life gotin the way.
And now it's one of thosethings Every time Christmas
comes around, I start thinkingabout that movie and I end up
watching it on YouTube orwhatever.
So, honestly, if I had one, itwould definitely be that movie,
just because end up watching,watching on youtube or whatever.
So, uh, honestly, if I had one,it would, it would definitely
be that movie, just because ofthe nostalgic factor there you

(44:09):
go, no, so I guess I'll go next.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
So obviously for me you know I'm a huge diehard guy.
Obviously I'm almost like mike.
I love the national lampoons.
One um, actually like havingkids, like my son loves like the
polar express, so like that's.
One of my favorite movies towatch with him is the polar
express yeah, I love watchingthat with him.

(44:37):
Um, this movie is actuallypretty recent.
I just watched with him.
It was, uh, I think it was likered one with the rock and
everything.
That that was a good movie, man, yeah, definitely, you got.
You got to check it out.
That was a good one.
And um, trying to think, Ithink that's pretty much it,
because I'm not a big christmasstory guy, like growing up,

(45:01):
growing up man, we should watchthat shit on repeat like the
whole time, like now.
Now I can't even like I see it.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I'm like nope, skip, it's like I just can't I think
I'll agree with you because itis the one like that's one of
the movies that's on like repeatconstantly, like the whole
entire day.
It's going to be on onchristmas, right, and I growing
up I did not like I liked it,but I didn't like it like that,

(45:29):
like I'd much obviously likesanta claus or rudolph or you
know one of those movies.
Um, now that I took like a hugebreak from it, like a huge.
I refused when I got older towatch that movie anytime it
would come on, like I wouldchange the channel like no,
we're not watching that.
Yeah, now, like I can watch itonce a year and be like okay,

(45:52):
like this is christmas, like youknow, it's kind of like normal
and natural to watch now, butonly one time.
I can't continue to watch it.
Um, and funny story, I actuallyposted my sister's birthday, um,
and I don't know how many ofyou guys follow me on my
personal page, but I should haveand it's us christmas eve and
we're watching blade onchristmas.

(46:13):
I don't know why we werewatching blade, but yeah, when
we were little kids like I'm ahuge blade fan and I'm
everything like that but like wewere, we were watching Blade as
little kids on Christmas Eveand I have no idea to why we
watch Blade on Christmas Eve.
But yeah, how about you Squatch?
I know you're not the biggestmovie person either, but I feel

(46:35):
like you got.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah, I got it.
I got a few.
So the Dr Seuss is Grinch, notthe Grinch.
How can I forget?
I got a few.
So the Dr Seuss's Grinch, notthe Grinch with.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Jim Carrey.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
How can I forget?
Yeah, not.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Jim.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Carrey.
I like the Dr Seuss one, drSeuss, yeah Of course I can't
believe I forgot that one.
You can't forget about theChristmas Vacation with you know
, Clark Griswold and the wholebunch, Elf Elf is one of my
favorites.
Oh yeah, it's a good onefavorites because you know, yeah
, it's a good one, there's aknucklehead in that one.

(47:05):
And then, uh, of course, yes, Igrew up watching christmas
story but I can't break awayfrom it.
It's just a freaking timelessclassic.
I'll sit there and watch it 50times.
You know, it doesn't matter tome.
One of my freaking all-timefavorites um, another one is
scrooged.
I love scrooge with bill murraybecause that's you don't think
of it as a Christmas, but it isa Christmas Kind of style

(47:27):
Christmas movie.
I don't know it came out, Ijust think it's cool, it's a
funny movie.
And, uh, there's a really oldone.
Oh man, I can't remember thename of it, but it had, uh,
abbott and Costello in it and mygrandfather and I used to watch
.
I can't, for some reason Ican't think of the darn name of
it, but it was an old, old blackand white, uh, christmas comedy

(47:51):
with with abbott and costelloand it was.
It was funny.
We used to watch it all thetime.
But that's, that's about myfavorite stuff.
You know, movies like.
I'm not a big movie guy either,but those are the old classics.
I I do enjoy watching those.
They're funny.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, now I I forgot about some and that's why I like
asking other, cause there'sjust so many good Christmas
movies out there.
I mean, I'm actually looking upjust just like what are some of
these?
And some of these I don't evenknow at all, um, no idea, I mean
so new and stuff like that.
But um, one I mean I guess it'sit's you could put in the

(48:33):
christmas and it's actually adamsandler's eight, eight crazy
nights and I know it's more likehanukkah and everything like
that.
But I, I know there's somechristmas stuff in there and I
remember watching that as alittle kid the first time.
I didn't even know, really know, who Adam Sandler was at that
time and you know, obviouslyAdam Sandler is a, is a absolute
legend.
Um, yeah, you know there's, youknow the Nutcracker.

(48:57):
So we, we will go, not everyyear because it is expensive and
everything like that, but wewill go and we'll go see a
christmas play like thechristmas spectacular.
We've seen the nutcracker um innew york city on broadway and I
think um scrooge, all right, um, which was a absolute just
banger of a play, huge play guy,believe it or not.

(49:18):
I don't like going often, butwhen I do I love plays.
They are pretty interesting.
It's a little different of astyle, you know, so I have to
believe that, frank, are thekids sleeping right now Is the
little one sleeping, the littleone's sleeping, and I pick up my

(49:38):
daughter tomorrow morning.
So you know what is.
What is something that you knowyour little one has been asking
you and what, what did santaget him?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
oh, forget about man he got.
He got so much shit man it'scrazy.
So he's.
He's big into marvel, you know.
So he loves, like all thesuperheroes, monster trucks,
like I think we met like thesanta over here, came on his
sled.
He asked him for a freaking for, like um, what was it?

(50:09):
Like a robot shark type ofthing.
So we, so we had to run out andbuy that for him at like the
last minute.
So that was today's adventureand shit, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
But uh, is he old enough?
Where he's like, yeah, he,could you imagine?
He sits on santa's lap and he'slike, yeah, like a 12 gauge
shotgun yeah, he's not there yetbut he's almost.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
You know so.
But uh, yeah, no he's.
You know he's big and like sayhe's big into like the marvel
stuff and everything.
So everything he asked for hegot.
Man, they're spoiled, thesekids, so I wish I was that
spoiled.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
I have a question do you guys do because Bianca and I
were talking about it, I don'tknow how I feel like I really
don't know if I want to do thisdo you guys do the elf on the
shelf thing?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
so we did it for my daughter.
We haven't done it for him yet,but we did do it for my
daughter.
We haven't done it for him yet,but we did do it for my
daughter, and she was like Imean shit.
Every single time she was, Imean, overly excited.
So but it's like every year wecome up with different things
and you come out with a new elfon the shelf, like you know,

(51:20):
either the dog or something else.
You know we're like shit.
Now we gotta buy the shelf.
Like you know, either the dogor something else.
You know we're like shit.
Now we gotta buy that one too,you know, but uh, no, so I mean
it's good, it's good and it's,you know, like I said, we
haven't done it with him yet,though gotcha.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Do you guys plan on doing it with him, or you know?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
be honest with you, we haven't really talked about
it, so, um, so, like tomorrow,I'll pick up my daughter in the
morning, we're gonna open, we'regonna let them, we're gonna
bring them back home, let themopen the presents from us
tomorrow, except for my daughter, she gets everything, since I
only have her for the day, andthen we'll let him open his

(52:01):
presents from santa on onchristmas yeah yeah, so um,
ethan, I know you you may havedropped a hint for santa and the
wife to pick you up.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Uh, some, some severs .
Is there anything else thatyou're you know you're looking
forward to?
Or, if the wife's not there, isthere something that you that
you bought her?
That was very special.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Well, our apartment isn't that big.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Okay, okay, Gotcha gotcha.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
What I will say is I got her some really cool stuff
that I think we're both going toenjoy.
There's one thing that I askedfor.
There's one thing that I askedfor um, I really I wrote a
letter to santa pretty muchsaying that I really wanted a
new set of the hawk climbingsticks and, um, I didn't see
anything come down the chimney,but there is a wrapped up box

(52:53):
that looks like a box that wouldhold I can assume, but you
never know listen it, it's closeenough.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Go check it out.
Let us know how.
About you?

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Squatch.
You asked for anything forChristmas.
You giving anything forChristmas.
You are, you know, with thebeard.
You got the beard.
You might as well just dye itcompletely white.
Yeah, it's getting there.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, it's gray as hell.
Now it's getting grayer man.
All the, all the shit I gothrough.
It's getting grayer every year,man but uh yeah, no.
Well, I asked santa claus for a,uh, a new 45, 70.
Well, it might be because mybirthday's in January, so, and

(53:46):
it's a big one this year I'mturning the five, oh, this year.
So, uh, you know I, it might bea birthday present too, I don't
know.
But uh, I put a couple ofthings in the into her, you know
, and I, I got her stuff, youknow, I always get stuff.
I don't want to say cause youknow she's around, but you know,
but you know we, we always, wealways splurge.

(54:11):
It's just her and I and you knowwe got the four dogs, but we
always take care of each otherwith Christmas.
You know.
It's just one of those things.
It's the the.
The thing of it is is is youknow you, you had Christmases
past?
The thing of it is is is youknow you, you had Christmases
past?
There was a lot of people atthe table and anymore there's
not.
So you got to cherish what yougot with who you got and uh, you
know value those times.

(54:31):
Presidents are cool and stuff,but man, it's it's really about
who you got around you still,you know a hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I mean, that's something that you know now that
the older I'm getting, like mymom, she was like what do you
want?
I was like I don't really want,like I couldn't even think of
anything, like I didn't reallywant anything, especially with
everything that's uh, yeah,going on and everything like
that.
But uh, she actually got me, um,that stealth rig setup.
Oh so I'm actually looking, I'mactually looking forward to
that, especially like I'll seeyou know how it really runs and

(55:07):
how I want to like use it forlike hunting season but
definitely like in the offseason, about how much we shoot
and everything like that when wedo the archery competition,
like that's gonna be nice justto put on my back and, you know,
just be able to boom there.
It goes um and then we'llobviously I'll test everything
out and then go from there withhunting.
But I'm actually really lookingforward to that.
And then the fiat say weactually just picked up, she

(55:29):
brought me.
You know, everyone knows likeI'm a outside of hunting and
working.
You know the one thing I liketo do to kind of relax is
actually play video games.
So she actually just bought methat new um.
We literally just got back fromthe store just not too long ago
because I didn't want to get anew one.

(55:49):
But NCAA came out for the firsttime since I was, I think, in
high school and I went to goplay it when they first dropped
it and it says this game is notcompatible with the xbox one you
need.
And I was like, of course Ilike I knew the time was coming

(56:10):
where games weren't going tostart to be compatible, and it's
crazy.
And so like old now where it'slike I don't even care about
getting new stuff, like I usedto remember when I was a kid
always wanted a new xbox cameout, how to have it?
New phone every year.
I, man, I haven't gotten.
This thing is all busted andbroken and I I think I'm almost

(56:30):
done paying it off, so I thinkmy bill's gonna go down.
So I told the doctor she's like, oh, like, we need a new phone.
We need a new phone.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, we'll getone.
I don't want a new phone.
We're like we're almost donepaying off this phone.
Like I want a new phone.
Um, so things are very cheap.
But you know, I'm kind oflooking forward to that because
that's my, that's my relaxationtime, like that's when I get to

(56:52):
just sit here kind of turn thebrain off and not think about
anything else, unless I'm gamingand also working at the same
time and doing the podcasts andlike I do like the canva art,
but that's so simple, like that.
That's not like anything crazy,but that is the one nice thing.
So she got me that.
And then you know, yeah, and Ican't really say what, what I

(57:13):
got her because she's she's nottoo far me and actually we got
our nephews actually thesepretty cool books and it's
called chasing deer um it's justlike a little, you know, a
little quick read once they getold enough, where they can read,
or you know, or um, my sisteror sister-in-law they can read

(57:33):
to, um, read to them andeverything like that, um.
But yeah, now it's more kind oflike getting the kids and and
everything like that, um, ournep nephews and spoiling our
nephews and everything like thatwith gifts until hopefully, you
know, when we have kids andthen I'll just let my mom and
everything like that spoil thekids and get all the pride, like
here, here's, here's, here'sthe list.

(57:55):
This is what, this is what yourgrandchildren want.
Go buy it and you know, justput Dear Santa and you know
that's really it, um.
But oh man, it's um, like Isaid, I can't, I can't believe
it.
You know, hopefully next yearyou guys can come to um american
mike's um christmas party.

(58:15):
I mean, I know, squash, it'sactually it's a long distance
for all you guys, but you knowmaybe we can do it where you
know you guys come down and thenwe go for a hunt or we do a
hunt or so you know somethingwhere we can because it was a
lot of fun.
You know the way that they kindof do stuff and they did uh,
they did a secret santa with alleach other and everything like
that.
So it's a pretty cool thing.

(58:36):
Um, love going, you know, love,love spending time with his
family.
Yonka and I had fun andeverything like that shooting
pool and just having you know agood time.
And you know it's it's justthat time of the year.
Um, and anything else on theChristmas funds, any, anyone got
any like cool traditions,anything like that?
Um, we said the movies, what.

(58:58):
One last thing what do you guys, what's your dish for Christmas
?
Anything special that you'rerolling out For Christmas?

Speaker 4 (59:08):
I smoke a venison backstrap On the Traeger every
Christmas.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Venison parm for me, I do.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I do bourgeois.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah, you said Okay.
Yeah, I just know we, I don'tknow between.
I love thanksgiving but I swearthe dinner for christmas eve is
so good too.
It's just, that's reallydifferent.
Like we'll have venison there,um.
We're gonna make uh, goosepoppers, um.

(59:40):
But we're gonna save that formy sister will be down the 28th,
so we'll save that for when shecomes.
But my mom usually gets like afilet and like does, does some
great love filet, huge filetperson.
If I'm going to eat anythingbesides venison, it's probably
going to be like a filet.
But yeah, that's I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
I got it.
I got a good one for for you.
Sorry to sorry to cut you offall right.
So when we were kids, go back,way back.
You had to have that one toy.
What was it?
When you were a kid?
You were dying for it.
You still remember it to thisday.
What did you get?
Oh, man, had to have it,couldn't live without it.
It was the best toy you evergot.
What was?
What was your favorite toygrowing up that you got at

(01:00:30):
christmas?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
oh, that's a tough one, that's a really that's a
really tough and thinker, um, Iwould, I don't even know about a
skates or something, maybe ahockey stick or something like
that for you.
I got so probably it wasdefinitely hockey related, like

(01:00:54):
I will say it could have been aJersey, like it was something
definitely hockey related.
To pinpoint what exactly it was, um, would be really tough.
I would get my skates everyyear before the season because
we're playing at such a highlike level and pace and like we
needed our gear, like rightbefore the season.
But I would always get um newsticks or but probably jersey,

(01:01:18):
like I have a martin bernardjersey and I was a huge and then
you know I'm not a big jerseyguy.
Um, I don't, growing up playinghockey, especially when you
played at like usually most ofthe guys you'll notice like play
at like really high level.
They don't really wear jerseys.
Yeah, but that was like the one, like I needed that jersey.

(01:01:39):
Um, and then, surprising or not,I got I mean, I got a lot of
toys growing up but I got somebanger books for my birthday and
Christmas, always, like peoplewho don't know me like I love
reading, I'm a really big intoreading.
So books I always like I didn'tknow what books I was going to
get, but my family and my family, friends and everything they

(01:02:01):
would pick out these incrediblebooks for me either on my
birthday or christmas and Iwould always like look forward
to that.
It was, like my sister said it,the best.
It was always the present wedidn't think we needed, but the
minute we got it we needed, likewe had to have it, and that was
kind of like.
That was kind of like what itwas.

(01:02:22):
Um, probably, especially reallyyoung huge power rangers guy
like I was obsessed with powerrangers and and stuff like that.
So I don't even know what thatis.
Oh man, yeah, power rangers was, uh, when we were growing up,
was a yeah, I don't even knowwhen it started, but I think it
started when I was, you know,when I was a kid and everything
like that um, and just became ahuge power rangers.

(01:02:45):
You know, dude, I don't evenknow how to explain it it was.
Now it's very corny, but likethen it was the greatest thing
in the world I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Yeah, I never heard of them things, but when I was a
kid, I remember back and I waslike man, I hope I get this, I
hope I get this.
It was, uh, capsula.
I don't know if you guys everheard of it, but it was like man
, I hope I get this.
I hope I get this.
It was a capsula.
I don't know if you guys everheard of it, but it was like
these round, clear plasticthings that had ends on them and
you could build all kinds ofstuff and they had gears in them
and you could make, like youknow, spacecraft with them or

(01:03:18):
you could make a thing thatfloated and it would go through
the water.
But it was neat, like, and youcould add on to it and
everything.
I was probably like I don'tknow, maybe nine, eight, nine,
ten years old, but I rememberseeing that and I was like oh, I
gotta get capsula.
That's gonna be cool.
And it was like it was fun, man, because you could always add
on to it, you could builddifferent things and it had, you

(01:03:39):
know, these little motors in itand I'm a mechanical guy always
been, I always been in themotors and everything else.
So it was cool, mess aroundwith that and play with it.
But that's one of the one ofthe best toys I remember getting
when I was a kid, like couldn'twait to get it.
And then I'm going to guess onFrank Frank's probably was
Barbie dolls, and maybe it waswell, cause he just adores, you

(01:04:02):
know, like looking at girls, sohe just had to have a Barbie
doll, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Hey, there's no wrong with that Squatch eh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Now, what was yours, Frankie?
You had to have something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Man, I've been thinking, man, I don't know.
Man, I honestly don't know.
You caught me off guard withthat one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Yeah, it's a hard thing to think of when you're
caught off guard.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
God, what would it be ?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
There had to be something you loved to have as a
kid, as a toy or something.
You couldn't wait for Christmasto get it and open it up.
You know, like Ralphie's gotthe BB gun, you know the red
riot, yeah, yeah you know.
But you know, I mean I did getit.
I remember getting a gun forchristmas was that 35 I still
hunt with, but that was later onyeah, yeah, no, I would have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah, man, I don't know, I know, I know.
My favorite one was when mygrandfather bought me my, uh, my
frenchie 20 gaugesemi-automatic yeah, perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
So there you go.
That's it.
There you go.
What about you, ethan?

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
I never really asked for anything for christmas.
It was always like my parentswould give me some gifts that
were always like superthoughtful, but I never really
like asked for anything butchristmas.
It was always like my parentswould give me some gifts that
were always like superthoughtful, but I never really
like asked for anything but kindof same thing with frank just
said the most memorable one thatI can remember was I was like I
was 14 and uh

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
my dad got me.
It wasn't like a gift, but itwas uh like a, a guided goose
hunt.
It was me and and my uncle.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
We all went and I was like wait, I don't have like a,
I don't have a shotgun that Ican use like.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
All I have is like a like a 50 over and under 20
gauge yeah it's a youth model,it's like a 18 inch barrel, like
it's not gonna work and he'slike, oh, that's what the other
box is and I got it gave me likea brand new benelli 12 gauge
pump action that was.
That was the one that Iremember for sure I would
remember that one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
That's awesome man right, that is, you know, and
it's crazy how, like we don'tlike really remember, like,
exactly like, but, um, Iactually think I did get a gun
too for christmas, and Iactually might have been really
my first gun and I still havethat, my 22, that my grandpa, my

(01:06:35):
mom, well, I mean, I'm prettysure that was for christmas.
I've gotten some, and I'vegotten, yeah, I, I think,
besides the hockey stuff, likethat was something I was really
looking forward to Nice.
Now I have a question for you,squatch, and I'm actually, you
know, and even Frank, because Iremember that I could tell the
difference now from Christmasgrowing up to now, like, but for

(01:06:58):
you guys, you know, what do yousee as a difference of when you
were growing up to now?
I feel like just people justdon't celebrate the holiday,
like they used to.
I mean, I know people getoffended now that if you say
Merry Christmas and everythinglike that, so like that already
tells you what type of worldwe're living in.

(01:07:19):
Like what are some of thethings that you guys remember
when, when you guys were younger, growing up and I mean, if
ethan, if you want to chime inon this too as as well you know
it's definitely like a lot haschanged and you know, um.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
So I just I'm curious , especially for you, squash oh,
like I said before, you know,we had a a big long table and
everybody was there, you, know,yeah no how about you, frank?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
yeah, basically the same thing.
We used to go over to my uh, myaunts, all the time and
everything and my whole dad sidewould come, because that's
where my grandparents were, it'swhere my aunts were, my uncles
and like similar to squats, likeit was just a huge table and we
would do it for thanksgiving,you know, christmas, everything,

(01:08:15):
and now it's like everybody'soff.
You know, half those peoplearen't here anymore and
everybody just started doingtheir own things with their own
family and unfortunately, it'sone of those things where we
don't see them unless it's at afuneral or something, which is
sad to say.
But that's just the truth, youknow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I think that the other thing, too, that's missing
nowadays is you know, you wereyounger, so you had so much
anticipation of the snow days,the days off from school and
just sitting there like we usedto play rummy with my
grandparents.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Great game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
And you know the holiday dishes, like my
grandmother would make a tray ofeggplant for each of us, not
just for the whole crowd, shewould make a whole plate too,
but then there was a separateeggplant for you to take home
and your father to take home.
And you know, it's all that,all those old family traditions.

(01:09:21):
I mean it was just havingeverybody around and and you
know, like I said, people havegone off, they're not here
anymore.
So it's changed and it's it'sup to us to kind of, you know,
reiterate and and bring thatstuff back out to whoever we
have contact with, whether youhave friends over or you're.
You know you maybe your in-lawsor your your.

(01:09:42):
You know other sides of thefamily, whoever you do, or your
new friends.
You introduce them to thatstuff.
And you know another thing too,to most of all is is they take
God out of Christmas.
You know it's, it's, it's oneof the most important things.
You know his birthday.
Supposedly it's his birthday.
I don't know if it's hisbirthday for sure, but you know

(01:10:04):
people forget what it's reallyabout.
It's all about santa andreindeer and everything else.
It's not.
There's more to it, and theolder I get, the more I realize
what it's about more and moreeach year and it all goes like I
said it's.
It's that ambiance of when youwere a child and you were in
your teens and your your early20s and you still had everybody

(01:10:27):
around you and you know it waslike you know you expected, you
know your couple uncles out inthe living room watching
football and then you know yourgrandfather's talking about the
hunting season and howeverything transpired, and you
know the women were doing theirthing and everything else, and
it's just you know the womenwere doing their thing and
everything else, and it's just,you know.
They're all good memories, it'sall good stuff that you had and
and you know, for me you know,I know not everybody had the

(01:10:51):
same upbringings, but you knowit's, it's just that you wish
you could hit replay and go backfor just five minutes, you know
yeah I think you hit a nail onthe on the coffin right there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
I mean that's yeah, it's, it's like it's crazy how
quickly it goes, yeah, and whenyou're in the moment you don't,
you're not.
That's not what you're thinkingabout you know, but it really
shows you just like, hey, youjust got to cherish every single
moment.
You know, unfortunately, youdon't know when the really shows
you just like, hey, you justgot to cherish every single
moment.
You know, unfortunately, youdon't know when the last time

(01:11:27):
you're getting together all as agiant big family or your
friends or or whatever, and wecan use this as as just life in
in general, you know, I mean umeveryday life, but I think, for
for this holiday, I mean I thinkit's always been one of my
favorites and and yeah, you knowwhat as a kid it was.
You know I loved gettingpresents, but the whole family

(01:11:50):
was there, all my cousins evenin our, like our house.
You know, my, my family, theywould.
You know there was a lot of usas kids growing up and they
would do every single thing theycould to make it special.
I mean, some of my favoritememories are the food.
You know just like how muchfood we have and like we're all

(01:12:10):
having a good time and at thattime I couldn't drink and I
remember everyone all the adultsare drinking.
I'm like I can't wait to havethat.
I will never forget when I hadmy first rumble you know, and I
was like yes, like I was soexcited to have a rumble, you
know, and it's.
It's just those like littlememories.
You know, I, I'm my cousin.

(01:12:30):
I kicked him off the.
We were sharing a bed andsupposedly I don't know what
type of dream I was having, butI supposedly just kicked him off
the bed.
He went flying, hit the dressernot, and I was supposedly
sleeping like I didn't wake up.
Everyone else woke up in thehouse, supposedly, but I was
knocked out and like didn't,didn't even care.

(01:12:52):
You know what I mean.
Like those are kind of like the, the things that that we, you
know we miss and I know you know, with frank, you know you got
the kid and you know ethan youknow, with your wife and squash
with your wife.
You know you all make memories,but it's still hard, like, yeah,
when you're, when everyone'snot there, like it's it's, and

(01:13:13):
especially, unfortunately, whenyou know when they, when someone
does pass away.
But I'll definitely say like Ithink it's more and don't you
know, I feel like I have a likewith my grandfather.
He passed away but I still feellike he's, he's still there
watching over us.
So, yeah, that's different thanjust the family who now lives

(01:13:36):
15 hours away or whatever themjust not coming because you know
they're eight.
You know things.
If things could work out alittle easier, it would make it
a little.
I guess that's a little bitharder because you know they're
still there, you know you stillcan talk to them, you still can
go see them and everything likethat.
Vice versa, you know a familymember who's passed away, where

(01:13:56):
you definitely know that you'renever gonna be able to see them,
but they are still always goingto be with you.
You know, do you guysunderstand what I'm trying to
say?
Like it's just a that that'sthe hard part too of like damn,
I really wish I can go hang outwith my, you know, with my, my
family and you know they're, youknow somewhere else and
everything like that.
And those are the things too,that that you kind of miss us as

(01:14:18):
well.
But boys, any last words, I meanI think this is a great
Christmas one and New Year'slisten, the New Year's episode
is only one week away and I gotto get a movie on that of
everything that we're going tobe doing for that.
So the top five episodesSquatch, you went far.
You went far.

(01:14:38):
I think he went up against thejuggernaut.
I think he went out with MattyButts and he's been killing.
I think he would have him inamerican mike last year, because
american mike last year wasgetting almost like a hundred
votes per yeah per thing andhe's maddie butts is up there.

(01:14:59):
So that would have been apretty cool one for Juggernaut.
I might have to do like a fanvote all time one year and see
who's going to win.
That would be cool.
We're in the final four.
I believe it is.
Let me see who's the final four.
I just had it up.
It is going to be Matty Butts,zach from Knockdown, it is the

(01:15:31):
Woods and Wild Game Freaks havemade it to the final four.
I think the final two is goingto be Maddie Woods.
I mean Maddie Butts versus theWoods.
I think that's going to be thefinal two.
But we had a lot of Greatepisodes this year.
I always love doing this.
It is a fun thing to do.
It's fun to see who's going toget the most votes and

(01:15:52):
everything like that.
But Squatch, yeah, I was proudOf you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Yeah, you got far, you know, and well, you know,
it's All it's all because youknow our brotherhood Together.
You know, and well, you know,it's all it's all because you
know our brotherhood together.
Uh, you know, and you guysallowed me to be part of this
and and it's been a good, goodrun, and uh, hey, you know what,

(01:16:16):
we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Maybe next year I'll do better, you know, but well, I
I told you the from before youeven joined with us and, like on
the episode, like I just had todo this, I literally sat down
and just just let him go go andit it was and I told you I said
this was a great episode.
People are gonna really trulyand I said I think you're, we'll

(01:16:40):
go over the top five downloadedand I don't.
I think you're just outside thetop five, um, but like so
really, and I think it was justunique getting your, you know
when you talked and you knowespecially about you know
growing up and everything likethat and the family and just the
traditions thank you.
Those are always.
I think a lot of people lovehearing those stories.

(01:17:01):
I mean, yes, we love talkingabout what we're doing now and
everything like that, but thoseolden stories you know,
especially back in the whathunting was like and everything
like those, really get like.
I love listening to storieslike that because then you
picture it in your head like Icould only imagine what it was
like hunting back.
Then I mean it's I.
I really wish I couldexperience that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
So it was a whole other world back then.
It was a whole different time.
You didn't have all the crapthat was going on.
I mean, you guys are swattingat drones now down there in
Jersey.
Yeah, we might have seen ashooting star once in a while,
you know, but I'm humbled.

(01:17:42):
Thank you very much everybodywho who voted.
If you're out there listening,I appreciate the votes and
there's more to come.
I'm not done telling my storiesyet definitely, definitely
everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
We got the we're going to be having.
We're still waiting to hearback from the people so we can
confirm the game dinner.
We're going to be at the EmpireState Show February 28th to
March 2nd.
I believe that is officially100% locked in.
I think that will be in Sussex,new York, I believe I think

(01:18:19):
that's what it's called, but Iwill get that for for you guys.
Next, on next week's episode,um, I'll be at the great
american outdoor show and Idon't know when the rest of the
guys are going to be going, butI will be there and the guys
will be trickling in here andthere.
Um, so we'll be down at thegreat american outdoor show.
It is almost, uh, that time ofthe year where season season

(01:18:39):
slowly come into an end andwe're going to start the, the
shows and everything like that.
But, guys, I hope you guysenjoyed this episode of merry
christmas everybody.
I hope your, your holiday, isabsolutely amazing.
I hope you know you guys get tospend it with family and you
know, have good, make a lot ofgood memories, have some great
food.

(01:19:00):
If you like to drink, have afew drinks.
If you don't, you don't.
I will say the winter weatheris here.
Supposedly january is going tobe brutally cold.
Yeah, it is supposed to snowtomorrow.
So if you get the opportunity,go sledding gotta.
I love sledding huge sleddingfan squash.
Take care of the roads you know, and stay safe out there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
I don't know if you got any snow.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Um, anytime soon, boys, I'll I imagine I'll see
everyone uh next week for the uhnew year's eve episode.
Looking forward to it and Ihope you guys all like good
night, good night good night.