November 28, 2024 • 42 mins
Ever had a heart-pounding moment with a shooter buck practically within reach, only for it to vanish into thin air? Join us as we share our recent experiences navigating the thrilling unpredictability of hunting season, just as Thanksgiving week unfolds. It's a time when the game is plentiful, the air is crisp, and the decisions of which deer to target become a test of strategy and patience. Through wind and weather, recount the excitement and challenges that come with the territory, and hear how a successful outing can still be claimed even when nature throws a curveball.
This episode ventures beyond the deer stand to explore the unique regional weather patterns that hunters contend with. Picture moving bow-hunting cameras between North and South Jersey, where snow and rain are separated by mere miles. We reflect on how these contrasts shape our hunting tactics and prepare for the upcoming six-day gun season, waterfowl, and even dive into the anticipation of ice fishing and predator season as temperatures continue to drop. Our stories highlight the unpredictability and excitement that each hunt brings, including a wooden box blind maintenance saga and those adrenaline-pumping moments tracking a buck.
As the Thanksgiving holiday approaches, we embrace the cherished traditions that blend hunting with family gatherings. We share tips for staying warm in the elements, advocating for insulated blinds as a shield against the cold. The conversation transitions to fond memories and the evolution of our family hunting traditions, from turkey and homemade apple pie to the novelty of deep-fried turkey. Amidst these tales, we find a common thread of camaraderie, community support, and gratitude that binds us all. It's a celebration of unity and connection, with heartfelt Thanksgiving wishes extended to everyone in our community.
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's why your tagline like jcl known perfect.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
You don't know what that means accidentally drifted
my canoe between a sound andshe's like charged and like hit.
Some hit like the back of thecanoe but his head hit the
ground before his ass begging,begging and crying to go with my
grandfather, go with my fatheron these deer drives.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You know, the last trip over I shot a great Cape
Buffalo with my battle ofcharging through the grass.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And then the whooping .
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And then you hear a body drop.
Boys, we are back and it isThanksgiving week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh yeah, another week down in the hunting season.
I mean how quickly the factthat where it's already about to
be Thanksgiving, on ThursdayDecember is right around the
corner.
It feels like just yesterday wewere just starting the season.
It feels like just yesterday wewere just starting the season.
I mean battling those hot days,buggy days, and now it's gun
(01:49):
season has now officially likeopened up, I think almost
everywhere now.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy man.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Happened quick, too quick, definitely too quick, I
think.
As much as I love this time ofthe year, it's like damn where
to go.
I'm already reminiscing andgetting ready for the early
(02:19):
season next year again, but youknow we didn't have much going
on this week.
But yet again Mr mr frank getsit done again and he stays on
fire yep, now is you know,there's another good one today.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Actually I went out on um saturday morning that was
kind of a bus for me only endedup seeing two.
I saw a small six and a nicesize doe, but nothing got close.
So decided to go out sundaymorning and my cameras were
(02:56):
blowing up actually saturdaynight so I knew it was going to
be good, so I rushed to get inthere.
I was probably in the tree like4 30 and I was actually.
I was telling squatch to shoot.
I'm get, I'm just getting setup.
I put my camera on and with themoonlight, you know, you can
see.
(03:16):
And all of a sudden I hear, Ihear walking coming and I, I
looked to my left and here comesone of the shooter bucks.
But I didn't realize it untilhe was almost right, friggin
underneath me, and I was like,oh shit.
(03:36):
So I'm like trying to like turn.
I'm like, should I turn thecamera on, should I not?
I'm trying not to move.
I actually I made one move andhe looked up at me.
I'm like, all right, like I'mnot moving, like he's, he's
gonna hang around, because I'veseen him do it all the time,
wouldn't you know it?
All of a sudden I I like I peekaround the tree and I can see
(03:58):
him just walking away.
I was like I'm likeunbelievable man, I can't
believe, like I can't win withthese big ones, right?
So it starts getting late andI've never seen so I was
actually telling squats.
I've never seen so many deerlike especially this year come
(04:19):
like one right after the afterthe other.
I had a group of six does comeby, and then another seven, and
then another six and thenanother five.
I must have saw like 30freaking there.
I was like I'm like, listen, Igotta shoot one of them, you
know.
So I was just sitting up there.
(04:42):
I was like you know which oneam I gonna shoot, you know.
So once you know it all, I letall the groups pass and one big
single doe comes all by herselfand I'm like all right, like
this is going to be the one I'mgoing to shoot her, because then
nothing else is going to getspooked or know what's going on,
because, like you know, so muchcould go wrong when you have
(05:04):
that many eyes on you.
So she was all by herself.
I'm like this is perfect, shother at 18 yards, but it was so
freaking windy.
I was leaning over the tree andI could just feel myself
swaying and it it kind of likemessed me up a little bit.
It took me like I mean it feltlike five minutes, but probably
(05:25):
it wasn't even that long justbefore like I touched off, you
know, on my release because Iwas just swaying and I'm like
waiting.
And once you know I told Scott Ihit her a little far back so I
ended up catching one of herlungs, the liver, and it
(05:46):
actually caught her gut and Iwatched her run off.
She went about I don't knowabout 40, 50 yards and bedded
down, and so I just stood therewatching her.
Actually, I called Squatch onthe phone.
I was like you ain't going tobelieve this shit.
That just happened to me.
I'm like, so I'm just justgonna watch her for a little bit
(06:11):
.
And as me and him were talking,she gets up, she walks about
another five feet, beds downagain.
I'm like all right, well, likeshe's not going nowhere.
So I I stood up there forprobably another 45 minutes.
She gets up, she moves again,and now, like I'm getting hungry
, it's getting late.
(06:33):
I'm like you know, like thewife's making breakfast.
I'm like, all right, I'm justgoing to sneak out of here, but
I don't know how I'm going topull it off because you guys
seen it, it's all open woods andshe's directly facing me and I
I somehow was able to sneak downand not jump her.
I actually I just turned around,I walk, I just walked the same
(06:57):
way.
I walked the uh, you know thesame way.
I came in and I was like I'mjust going to give her plenty of
time because I don't know howlong it's going to take her.
And I went in about fourth.
I went in right before dark itwas about 4 30.
I went in and she was right,right where I last seen her.
So it was a wrap.
(07:17):
I was talking and it wasn't toolong before like she expired
because she was still warm.
So I made the right call.
So but we got him.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, definitely, definitely would, would make the
right call.
And you know we were talking,um, I think today.
Yeah, um, I don't even knowthat it did hit the gut, because
just the way that she reactedlike I've personally not really
when hitting the gut had a deer,stop and just walk, um, you
(07:50):
know, because it did seem likeshe didn't even know what hit
her yep, you know, um, andusually when you, when you get
that gut, I know you knowobviously why she now got up,
bedded, moved fire and gotbecause she was, she was hurting
, yeah, but usually, like I'veseen deer get hit and they just
take off, running, yeah, andthen they will.
(08:12):
Then they will really get down,bedded down, after running at
least 60, 70 yards, maybe intofit.
You know something that's thickor something that cover in it.
You know, we know what theproperty looks like.
So there really isn't much,especially now I can.
Only we saw in the early seasonwhen there was more cover.
Now I mean, I can only imaginewhat it looks like with without
(08:33):
all the cover and everythinglike that.
So pretty interesting.
And you know that that is theright call and it is.
That's a good call to one.
You're playing it so safe, butyou have eyes on the deer, so
you're you're worrying about ohmy god, like is this deer dead?
Like you know, without seeingthat visually, you know you may
(08:56):
have just all right an hour.
Let's yeah, let's go get herand she probably would have
still been well, still wouldhave been alive.
But the fact that you're ableto see her and everything like
that, and just be able to tellthat she got up, walked, got
back down, well, and I meandidn't go far at all what you
said, I think 60 yards and yeah,not even maybe that yeah, yeah,
(09:18):
um.
So that that's, that's a prettyand it's it's everything's a
great learning lesson.
That that's that's for sure andthat's, um, that's one of the
most important things.
But you know to, to give peoplea quick recap of what it
finally started raining andsnowing here in new jersey.
Um, squash.
I don't know what it was likefor you.
(09:38):
I imagine it was kind of thesame thing.
Uh, yeah, we had a mix yeah, soit was something that was very
much needed.
I mean, it's crazy, I was thatday I was in North Jersey um
moving some cameras, cause I'mgoing to try to get up there to
to bow hunt um North Jersey andstuff like that, um for does,
(10:00):
and everything like that, andjust snow, just like snow
everywhere and still snowing,and I I moved down, I I go to my
you know southern jersey spotand go grab a camera or two and
I mean I only went maybe 10, 15miles, not even I probably just
went off the mountain and justrain.
(10:21):
And it's just so crazy of howdifferent it is.
And I know for you, um, it wassnow on the ground for for a.
I know for you, um, it was snowon the ground for for a little
bit for you, and that's part ofthe reason probably why you
heard that buck coming into,because I think from watching
the, the film, there was stillsome snow on the, on the ground
left over.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yep, Yep.
Even even when I shot her,there was still a little left.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So, so yeah, I mean rejoice.
Rejoice I mean the the crazydrought is is over, which we
knew it was going to be over, um, and I think it's supposed to
rain tomorrow and but theweather looks really cold,
upcoming um, yeah really reallygood weather if you, if anyone,
(11:07):
I, I know a lot of people aregoing to be out.
You know it's thanksgiving, yougot the day off and everything.
Maybe you know we were talkingbefore we started recording.
You know sneaking out before,uh, thanksgiving um meal and
everyone comes over andeverything like that, um and try
to get it done and and thingslike that.
But I mean the weather'sshaping up to be to be a good
(11:28):
one, uh, upcoming for I mean atleast for December and January.
I mean we're going to startgetting some real cold
temperature and I heard even youknow the fact that it already
snowed here is a is a prettygood sign.
Hopefully good things to come,because we need snow, we, we
definitely do.
The long-term after no wedefinitely do.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The long term after this weekend is lows in the
teens and highs maybe in the 30sfor a long stretch into
December.
So I'm hoping.
I'm an ice fisherman.
I want some ice.
Finally.
We haven't had ice here in liketwo or three years ice fish on,
so I can't wait to get out andstart ice fishing a little bit
again.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I would like to try ice fishing once.
That's now that I.
You know I've gotten a lot ofmeat and you know waterfowl is
going to start up, uh, real soon.
I mean we're going to startpursuing some birds and
everything like that coming soon.
And you know, with six day gunseason coming and you know I
definitely want to get intothose other things especially.
You know I've always said, oh,like I want to go ice fishing,
(12:27):
but it's, it hasn't been, hasn'tbeen good good weather, you
know it's, it's just hasn'thasn't been good to to do that.
You know, get out there, dosome squirrel hunting, um,
things like that, um, get thesmall game and everything like
that.
And hey, the colder it gets andmore snowy, the better for
predator season, oh man, I can'twait for that I yeah I can't
(12:47):
wait.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'll as soon as, as soon as deer season's over, I'll
switch gears into that, youknow once it over for you guys
in new york.
Uh, so december 8th is our lastday of rifle season.
Then, uh, the 9th starts,muzzleloader.
It goes to about the 20, Ithink it's a 23rd, then it stops
(13:11):
for Christmas and then afterChristmas it goes to January 1st
and that's muzzleloader or bow,whatever you want to use.
So with me, because I use mybuck tag in archery, I can only
shoot does with the muzzleloader, unless I don't shoot a buck
with my rifle.
(13:32):
Any unused tags you can use upat the end.
So but I'm hoping that's notgoing to happen.
I hope I can get on a nice buckin the next couple of days here
with the.
I had one playing cat and mousewith me yesterday.
He's kind of aggravating me alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So you'll get out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, man, it's just.
You know, I sat all dayyesterday, all day.
I have a really nice wooden boxblind that I built, and I built
it about five years ago, didn'treally put much of a roof on it
except for plastic, because Iwas in a rush to get it out
there when I first built it.
They lasted five years or soand I started to get a hole in
(14:13):
the roof.
So back there in the summer Ibrought it up here, I ripped the
roof off of it and put a newmetal roof on it and cleaned it
up inside and stuff.
And the other day I'm sittinghere and I said you know, you
fix that thing all up.
You better bring it back downto the field so when you're off
you'll have something to jumpinto if it gets nasty weather
and still hunt.
So I fired up the backhoe andput the forks on it and carried
(14:35):
the thing back down the road andbrought it up into the side of
the field where I usually had itup on the top of the field.
But I put it on the side thistime and my neighbor texts me.
He, I put it on the side thistime and my neighbor texts me,
he's his two acres, butts up tothe 58 that I got over there.
And he says, hey, he just wentthrough my, my food plot.
(14:56):
I said, oh my gosh, I had my sonsitting in the two man.
That's kind of in line with hiscamera.
But my son went out of thewoods at 945 because it was
windier than hell yesterday andhe was freezing up there on the
top of that hill.
So the buck went that way and,uh, I'm sitting there.
It's like almost three o'clockand I'm saying to myself, boy,
(15:18):
my cameras haven't gone off andgive me the notification.
You know that they did theirtest pictures.
What the hell's going on?
So I check it.
The buck went right up the laneright to my stand in the middle
where I shot the eight-pointer.
He went right through there at245.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm likethat's like 85 yards away from
(15:38):
this box, blind right now.
And he's there.
So I was hoping and praying.
I said maybe he'll make theloop around and come out and
check the field for does orsomething.
But man, maybe he'll make theloop around and come out and
check the field for does orsomething.
But man, I sat there till dark.
But one good thing was I hadthe mr buddy heater on an arrow.
It's nice and warm.
The wind was blowing like crazyand I said, well, this is
living it up, man, it's nice tobe sitting in the blind and
(16:00):
tomorrow's tomorrow's supposedto rain, like you said, for most
of the day, for most of themorning.
So I'm gonna beat feet out tothe blind again and sitting
there with it raining and theheater on and some sandwiches
and hopefully a buck will walkout in the field in the rain.
I'll blast them there, you go.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Isn't that the nice thing, like I love.
I love what we do with thehanging hunts and going crazy
during you know, but sometimesyou just gotta kick back, turn
the heater on and just enjoy youget to.
I think, as much as I lovebeing out in, like purely in
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nature, in a saddle and a standbracing the elements there just
does get to a point of just like, how crazy am I?
I would like let's get into ablind and turn on the heater,
and you know it's a differenttype of you know, because now
you're you're a little morecomfortable it's like all right
(16:57):
like this is.
This is nice and cozy.
You know you can, you don't,you don't have to worry as much
about your movement too.
You know, you can.
You know things, things are.
I call it the lavish lifestyle,even though it's still really
not lavished at all.
Um, you know, but compared towhat we've done during this
whole entire season up to now,it seems pretty lavish for us.
(17:21):
You know, if we get that typeof style of hunting from, uh,
you know the the craziness thatwe've we've gone through so far,
but I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
it's helps you, though it helps you when you got
a bad back, like me, andgetting up there and age a
little bit.
It's nice to have the amenitiesof sitting in there and being
comfortable.
It allows you to, you know,really watch a parcel for an
all-day sit, but you're notkilling yourself.
I was able to come home and Iwas hungry.
I was like I wasn't intendingon sitting all day.
(17:53):
Believe me, I brought a cerealbar and a Dunkin' Donuts, a cold
coffee, with me when I wentinto the stand in the morning
and that's all I had the wholeday.
So when I got home, I was.
I was, uh, what do you call it?
Hangry.
I was angry and, uh, you knowwhen the old squatch gets hangry
, you don't want to get in hisway.
You know.
I was like uh, my wife's likeoh, I got this.
(18:14):
I'm like, just get it, justcook it, just cook it.
Let's just make these pizzas.
Come on, I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm starving.
That's very true too.
It's it's um being able to nowpush yourself to doing the
all-day hunt versus if you'reout battling the, the nature is
like like we would in a, in ahang on or in a saddle or
something like that.
You know the toll that it takeson your body is completely
different because I'll tell youthose more, those cold, cold
hunts, I mean, obviously it'snormal your body is burning up
so many calories trying to keepyou warm and everything like
(18:51):
that, that by the time you'redone you are just you're spent.
So I mean it, it is a use, it'sa useful tactic also for anyone
.
I don't think it.
You know.
I can only imagine what it'slike in michigan and and some of
these places really, really outthere in the midwest, with you
know no cover and just the windis just howling.
(19:12):
I've heard about you know whatit's like being in the midwest
with with the wind going andjust how cold it is.
You know I've I've talked topeople in here that have gotten
frostbite and everything likethat from trying to to battle
the, the conditions of of lateseason and everything like that.
So I mean you got to do whatyou got to do and it is nice
(19:33):
doing an all-day sit and beingsomewhat comfortable and, you
know, not putting the taxingtoll on your body.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Got to have it, man, when you get older.
My old back man from I wasalways that dude that said get
out of the way, I'll lift it anddo this and do that.
You know it's, it's reallycaught up with me doing physical
labor my whole life.
It's just you sit in thesemetal stands and, like you said,
you're out in the elements andwhat happens to to me is I get
(20:07):
like a core temperature and thenit'll drop and my body will
lock up like it'll start toactually get rib cramps really
bad.
Frank can tell you he's beenaround me.
When I get one or two, you getthose like deep rib cramps and
you just like it's like you'rehaving a heart attack but you're
not and they hurt like hell forlike five minutes.
They don't go away too quick.
(20:28):
So being able to not have yourbody get tensed up like that,
being able to keep your coretemperature warm, it helps.
And, like I said, you know I'mcovering basically all the same
ground that I would be if I wasin one of the other stands.
They're all within maybe 100,150 yards away from me and, uh,
you know, even two at night.
I'll get in there and I'll domy predator hunting out of there
(20:50):
.
Put the caller out, uh, the baitpile would be out in front of
me.
And that's legal in new york,you know, to put dead, dead deer
or whatever the hell you wantto put out in front of you.
But when it's, you know, I'vebeen out.
When we were doing the coyotecontest it was uh geez, I think
it was like 10 would havewouldn't chill factor like
(21:11):
negative 20 out.
The one night we were.
We were out there hunting andeven the heater froze up.
We had the heater freeze up,the propane froze up and my
son's like it's getting cold pop.
I'm like yeah, let's, uh, we'regonna call it, let's go back.
So, uh it, you know it gets cold, man.
I mean it's not insulated, it'sjust a wooden, basically a
(21:34):
wooden plywood box.
But uh, uh, I it's.
It does stop the window, ithelps you when you're when
you're out there and it it givesyou a little more affordability
in time, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'll tell you, whenever I get a big piece of
private property, the firstthing I'm doing is getting
myself one of those redneck uhblinds and putting it up.
You know, and I, because I lovehunting in the winter, I, I do.
But it also just gets to apoint where I want to just be
comfortable.
I don't want to have to killmyself trying to to get
something, and you know, I, Ijust winter is that time where
(22:11):
it's like I'll do it time andtime.
You know, every once in a whileto battle the conditions.
But you know, especially ifyou're you're feeling run down
or you're tired, or you knowyou're sick and you still want
to get out there, I meansomething like that too, and
just and just, you know, or realquick, you don't want to lug
all this gear with you and youknow that makes the cold hunts
(22:35):
even worse when you're sweatingjust trying to get out there and
everything like that.
So you know it is, it'sdefinitely a good thing to have.
But with Thanksgiving on, youknow what's everyone looking to
do for this Thanksgiving andSquatch what you guys got
planned over there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So usually my son and I will hit the mountain that we
go to, which is about 45minutes, almost an hour away.
We'll sit there, usually find aridge up there in the morning,
hunt that in the morning andthen, you know, come back home
and have dinner with the familyaround 2 or 3 o'clock and I
(23:17):
usually don't go out thatevening.
But, you know, just spend timewith the family and enjoy the
holiday.
That's usually what we do.
You know, nothing too crazy.
It ain't like the years before.
You know had you know a lot ofrelatives that hunted and
everything.
But a lot of those people aregone.
So you know, we don't get.
We don't get to do those bighunts like we used to, but it
(23:39):
used to be a big deal.
You know everybody, oh, thatwill be over thanksgiving and
then you know you have a bigdinner afterwards and stuff.
So but uh, you know, even ifit's small, we keep the
tradition alive.
Go out and hang out out therein the outdoors and you know, if
mr buck decides to cooperate,just makes the day that better.
I, I got one that was a halfracked eight pointer, probably
(24:00):
about eight, ten years ago onthanksgiving and it was actually
the last buck I ever shot offthe family property, so it made
it all that sweeter.
That's awesome yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Love it.
How about you, Frank?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So I'll be bow hunting Thanksgiving morning
before the family wakes up.
So yeah, we usually go over toup to my brothers so I usually I
won't be going out for nightpost, but definitely in the
morning I'm hoping to get a buckon the ground.
If not, my plans are I'm goingto hunt basically Friday,
(24:42):
saturday and Sunday and try toget a buck on the ground before
muzzleloader starts, cause I'llbe out Monday for muzzleloader
in Jersey.
So you know we'll, we'll seewhat happens, and so you know
Thanksgiving's with the familyhalf a day.
Then I'm going to be huntinghard Cause I want to try to get
my buck on the ground before thegun season opens.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So yeah, yeah, no, I definitely get that.
I mean I'm going to have a sucha busy thanksgiving this year
we are I won't be hunting.
Unfortunately, I haven't beenable to hunt the last couple
years on thanksgiving, which isa bummer because I always try to
, even though, like I, I alwaystry to get out in the morning,
(25:24):
usually when I'm gonna be home.
But uh, we're going to bianca'sfamily down the shore that I
gotta drive all the way backhome.
Friday to have thanksgivingwith my.
We're gonna do thanks, doThanksgiving, on the Friday with
my family.
Saturday starts PA rifle.
We were going to hunt PA rifleopener Saturday, but now we're
(25:45):
just going to do it.
Sunday I brought a new slug gun, so I'm hoping to get that
sighted in on Saturday.
And, yes, I finally pulled thetrigger and bought my own.
I was looking for a waterfowlgun and Frank was great enough
to he was going to let me borrowhis muzzleloader.
(26:07):
But I was at the store lookingfor a waterfowl gun because I
really want to get my ownspecific gun for a waterfowl gun
.
Because I really want to get myown specific gun for a
waterfowl.
I use my, my turkey gun for forwaterfowl.
In it I've killed tons of nowdifferent waterfowl with it, but
I'm still a little bit ofdisadvantage, and so that was
(26:31):
the the most important thing.
And then I was like you knowwhat?
What?
What are some slug guns?
You guys got there and you knowthey.
Of course they had the Savage220 and everything that I want.
But I was like I can't pull thetrigger on a $700 gun without a
scope and I'm only going to huntwith it really for six day and
(26:56):
maybe a few times there here.
I can't justify that when 95 ofthe hunting I do is bow hunting
.
Um, so I was like oh, no, no,what else you guys got?
And he was like, well, you know, if you don't care about price,
we have this.
You know this, uh, mossberg 20gauge, I think it was just under
500 and I was like that'sperfect.
(27:17):
I was like I was like sold.
I was like you got me rightthere, like that, that's the
perfect.
I, that's exactly the pricerange.
I'm not looking to go anythingcrazy.
I texted frank and frank saidhe had the, he had the same one
and and that, uh, you know heloved it and and everything like
that.
So, um, hopefully should begoing to pick it up at the store
tomorrow after work.
(27:37):
I didn't give them a call but,yeah, pretty, pretty excited for
that.
But I mean looking, lookingforward for Thanksgiving,
looking forward to eat.
I mean just that's the onlything like looking forward to
eating, eating so much that Idon't feel good and eating
leftovers for the next.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I don't know how long , like everything is going to be
.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Thanksgiving food.
You know, I don't know.
I think it's such an underratedholiday it's hard to compete
with, like the other big ones,and you look at all of them, you
, you know, but I think this isthe most, this is one of the
most important for for family I.
(28:21):
I think um, it's a littledifferent, because christmas
it's a big family one too, butthat's all about gifts and
nowadays it's all about giftsand and everything like that,
where there's no like those.
And it is just one of thosethings where you get to sit down
(28:46):
with the family and usuallyfrom all over, and have a big
meal and you're literally justeating, having drinks and and
eating pie, and you know,watching TV and knowing that
literally in a few days laterthe Christmas mayhem is going to
start and you got to, if youhaven't already, you got to get
(29:08):
to the gifts and Black Friday isgoing to be there.
Then I think what?
Cyber Monday is coming up andeverything, all those deals that
are that are coming out.
I mean, cabela's has sent melike a thousand things, sick has
sent me like a thousand thingsof all these, these deals and I
was just like, oh my god, we'realready back to this time of the
year yeah, it's crazy happenedquick too quick, too quick.
(29:33):
Yeah, any next thing, frank, ohgo ahead squash.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I was gonna say next thing we'll be planning our
spring turkey hunt yeah, yeahright, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's crazy how, how time is flying.
It's absolutely just flying butum what anyone, anyone got any
Thanksgiving traditions Besidesthe hunting, besides the hunting
part, any food that you eat,anything like that?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Like any traditions for you guys?
No, not that I know of.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, it's not.
No, as I say, we usually do,like a homemade apple pie or you
know something like along thoselines.
Then, uh, you know the, the,the uh, the tradition is.
I mean with us is always turkey.
You know, um, gotta have thethanksgiving turkey and the
stuffing and and all the fixingsthere and cranberry sauce.
You know all the good stuff Ilove pretty, yeah, pretty
(30:31):
traditional, you with that kindof stuff.
Yeah, that's about it, thoughNothing too crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Two years ago.
So where we're going down theshore, they actually do the boil
.
What the hell is it called whenthey boil the Seafood boil?
No, they fry the turkeys.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Deep fry the turkeys.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh, deep fry the turkeys yeah, I will tell you,
it was my first time having it acouple years ago, the juiciest
turkey in the world that I'veever had, and I'm actually very
excited, yeah, to go back downand have a deep fried turkey.
I mean, it was delicious yepI've done it.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah.
Yeah, we used to do them too,me and my brother.
But now my brother I call himbougie now, because now he's
like oh, come over my house.
He's like, but don't bringnothing, because I'm getting it
catered he's like no morecooking for us.
I was like all right, cool.
Even we always go over forChristmas Eve too.
Everything's catered now forthe past couple of years, so all
(31:37):
right, frank, does your brotherhunt too he used to.
Actually he used to doeverything with us.
He used to deer hunt, he usedto go pheasant grouse,
everything with us.
He just got out of it.
He didn't really it wasn't histhing like he tried it.
I guess he did it because likehe felt like the rest of us were
(31:59):
doing it.
So yeah, but uh it wasn't histhing.
Everyone else in the familyhunts pretty much, you know for
the most part.
You just see he just he never,you know, he just never wanted
to do it.
He like say he every now andthen he'll get the itch on him
to come out.
He comes out for a couple hoursand then he doesn't go out no
(32:20):
more.
He's like ah, he's like ah, I'mover it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Oh wait, that big wind comes.
He's like oh wait, this is whyI stopped.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, he's like nope.
He tells me all the time.
He's like man, you're crazy,You're going out there in this
weather.
I'll be home sitting on thecouch in the heat.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I'm just plugging my laptop in.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, go for it, brother.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
No worries.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I mean then, what does he think about your uncle?
Then I mean, because he's stillout there, you know, having a
ball and everything like that hethinks he's even more crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But you know, I grew up doing that with you know,
with my uncle and mygrandparents and all that.
So I mean it's just it'sawesome that he's still that
he's 72 and he's still like hestill wants to go, go, go go.
He still wants to track thedeer, he still wants to do
everything.
You know, it's like it'sbasically it's like I was a kid
(33:19):
again.
You know he's, he's stillalmost the same way.
So and squatch loves him, myuncle, angelo he's a.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He's a crazy son of a gun man.
Reminds me like an olderversion of me.
Yeah, yeah, no, he's great man.
I can't wait.
We've got to get up there.
I've got to get up there andhang out with you guys We'll
have a freaking blast man,because I can tell just for a
little bit.
I've been around him witheverything.
It's funny.
(33:49):
He's one of those old schoolguys I've been around.
I grew up around people likethat, so it brings back a lot of
memories.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's a lot of fun so, yeah, yeah, like I said he
always, he left the invitationopen to you.
Thank you to you too, mike, aswell.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
He's you know, he's like come up you know we'll eat,
we'll drink, we'll hunt, we'lldo this, we'll do that.
I am telling you that we are,we're gonna plan some, get some
good times.
Uh, you know, definitely,especially next year.
You know we're gonna, we'regonna do it correct.
We're gonna do some bow huntingthere.
And the guns like I said, thegun season I I really want to
(34:28):
see what, just video that andyou know it's a, it's a great
story to tell too and, um,hopefully, a bunch of deer down
and but, you know, that'ssomething that I definitely want
to do more of with, witheveryone.
And you know what I was talking.
I'm actually was on the buckdown uh podcast.
Um, we recorded the other day,um, and that's something that,
(34:51):
uh, he's thinking about, um,they're, they're in talks of
doing is is a hunt like that outin PA at one of the big, you
know, state places during bowseason, and I was like, listen,
you tell us the date.
I was like, as long as you giveus a notice, I mean we'll,
we'll, we'll definitely be outthere, do some camping out there
.
And I think that's the coolthing, I mean.
(35:12):
You mean, you know, squash gotto do that this year.
You know, went to ohio and putup the tents, and you know, I
think that's, I think that'smissing part of you know, from
the olden days, like how muchdeer cap, deer camp really meant
to people, you know, and it's,it's really about just the
memories and the bond andhanging out.
(35:33):
And you know, right now it's,you know, yes, there's people
that do it and everything likethat.
But I think, because of justwhere social media and I can
connect with, you know, evensquatches, you know, only a
couple hours away, but even asquash was six, seven hours away
, it's like you know, hey, youknow we don't have to all meet
up together because you know wecould all call each other, we
(35:54):
can all text each other, we canall FaceTime each other.
Where the deer camps have kindof just just gone away a little
bit, and I think that'ssomething that definitely needs
to to make a comeback.
I mean at least once a year.
For you know, for us andeveryone out there, if you get
the chance to go to a deer campat least once a year, definitely
(36:15):
take the opportunity.
I mean I would, I would like todo one where, listen, I would
love the families to come to.
Like you know, I think it.
I think it means even more when,when the families are there and
when everyone's having a goodtime cooking, laughing the guys
are, and even the girls.
If they want to go out and huntduring the day, we go out and
hunt during the day.
Then we come home, sit by thefire, drink and, you know, eat
um and just and just um, pig outwith food and just tell stories
(36:39):
and everything like that.
Like that's, that big part ofthat is missing.
Um, you know, and I, I hope, uh, we can definitely bring that
back pretty, pretty hard in inthe next, uh, next upcoming
years yeah, I got, uh, I gotsome plans already starting for
next year.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I got uh, johnny, nitro and uh dave heath and
maybe brett, uh bowen gonna comeout and uh do some new york
hunting with us out here.
Um, dave's got a great bigoutfitter tent, stuff like that
and I told him I said you knowour state land within 45 minutes
of here.
You know I gave them the openinvitation even to hunt some of
my private with me.
(37:16):
You know it's, it's no big deal.
Um, so maybe we can makesomething out of it.
You know we'll, we'll get someguys together and have a big
whoo out here.
I already told frank.
I said you know they, they wantto meet yous and you know, come
out, but they're they'reanxious to get out.
So, uh, I, I, it was.
You know, like you know when youtalk to people and you you get
(37:39):
a feel for somebody and it'slike, well, I, I probably known
johnny the longest, so addedboth of them.
But you know they're just goodpeople.
It's like you know, we all kindof like met and got to know
each other and stuff.
And you know, when you got thatkind of stuff going on, you're
just happy to help people.
I just hey, man, if you want tocome out and hunt, you come out
(37:59):
and hunt.
You know it's the invitationshere.
You know we'll cook.
I can throw a tent up here inmy backyard.
It's big enough, you know, andyou know we'll go from there.
I don't care, you know, justmake it a big, big fun thing.
So we're going to put somedates together, figure something
out, hopefully for the future,for some kind of deer camp for
next year.
It'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
Bianca might kill me all thetime I'm spending in deer camp,
but she likes coming usually,like when we went to bear camp
she came and everything likethat you know.
So she, when we go to, when Igo to, when I go to um camp for
(38:42):
six day, she's coming like shelooks forward to all those
things and everything like that.
You know, even if she's nothunting, she just likes being
there, she likes you know thecooking, she likes hanging out
by the fire and just relaxing,just getting away from
everything you know, you know of, just really like how life
really should be.
You know and that's the that'sthe most, at least in my eyes
(39:05):
like that's just how the worldshould be and life should be and
how us as humans should reallybe living.
But you know I'm also not acity person and none of us are
really city people.
So you know it's, it's easy forus to say that, yeah, yeah, but,
um, well, guys, I mean, I Ithink that's gonna call it for
(39:26):
for this week.
I mean, you know it is, it isthanksgiving.
You know everyone out therehunting, just enjoy, stay safe.
Um, you know, we're we'relooking forward to talking to
everyone again and hearingstories.
We're getting closer tochristmas and and things like
that, and unfortunately gettingclose to the end of the season,
(39:47):
um, you know, but with that Imean a lot of great things are
are about, like I said, we willbe at the Empire State Show on
February 28th to March 2nd.
If anyone's in the area, comeout.
(40:08):
We will be talking about thatconstantly and we'll keep
bringing it up.
The game dinner, we're, you know.
You know, like I said, it'slooking to be the first week of
april, um, and then, of course,we're eventually going to be
doing our bow shoot and and meetand greet at some point too in
the summer, um, so, and then youknow, of course, uh, the
(40:29):
traditional, um, great americanoutdoor show will be there for
for a couple days and everythinglike that.
So if anyone really, you know,if you want to get together,
meet, anything like that, we'reall very open to that.
I mean, that's how you know wemet squash.
I mean, I met squash for thefirst time after talking on
instagram and everything likethat at one of our events.
(40:50):
Um, you know, I've met frankfor the first time, I think at
at um, at the great americanoutdoor show, I believe last.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
No, actually I met you before, actually any of that
before.
Yeah, it was when mytaxidermist.
They threw that whole um, whatthe hell was it?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
they threw like that oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
, you're right at that event.
Yes, at that, uh, at that event.
Yes, yes, you're right.
Yes, I met you, the wife andthe kids at, uh, yes, at that
event in sussex.
Yeah, yeah, um, so I mean, alot of us have, all you know,
(41:33):
we've all introduced ourselvesfrom Instagram and everything
like that, and then haveeventually come across one of
each other in're not a poacherand a, you know, a, a scumbag or
something like that.
Listen, I, I will never judgeyou and you.
We're all part of the samecommunity and you know, we just,
(42:04):
we just all have to to be therefor each other, honestly, um,
you know, and that that's themost important thing.
But, um, guys, I know I'm goingto talk to you, but happy
thanksgiving to you guys, happythanksgiving to everyone out
there.
Um, you know, and I hopeeveryone enjoyed this episode
and we'll see you guys next timehappy thanksgiving everybody
(42:26):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
You don't know what that means accidentally drifted
my canoe between a sound andshe's like charged and like hit.
Some hit like the back of thecanoe but his head hit the
ground before his ass begging,begging and crying to go with my
grandfather, go with my fatheron these deer drives.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You know, the last trip over I shot a great Cape
Buffalo with my battle ofcharging through the grass.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And then the whooping .
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And then you hear a body drop.
Boys, we are back and it isThanksgiving week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh yeah, another week down in the hunting season.
I mean how quickly the factthat where it's already about to
be Thanksgiving, on ThursdayDecember is right around the
corner.
It feels like just yesterday wewere just starting the season.
It feels like just yesterday wewere just starting the season.
I mean battling those hot days,buggy days, and now it's gun
(01:49):
season has now officially likeopened up, I think almost
everywhere now.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy man.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Happened quick, too quick, definitely too quick, I
think.
As much as I love this time ofthe year, it's like damn where
to go.
I'm already reminiscing andgetting ready for the early
(02:19):
season next year again, but youknow we didn't have much going
on this week.
But yet again Mr mr frank getsit done again and he stays on
fire yep, now is you know,there's another good one today.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Actually I went out on um saturday morning that was
kind of a bus for me only endedup seeing two.
I saw a small six and a nicesize doe, but nothing got close.
So decided to go out sundaymorning and my cameras were
(02:56):
blowing up actually saturdaynight so I knew it was going to
be good, so I rushed to get inthere.
I was probably in the tree like4 30 and I was actually.
I was telling squatch to shoot.
I'm get, I'm just getting setup.
I put my camera on and with themoonlight, you know, you can
see.
(03:16):
And all of a sudden I hear, Ihear walking coming and I, I
looked to my left and here comesone of the shooter bucks.
But I didn't realize it untilhe was almost right, friggin
underneath me, and I was like,oh shit.
(03:36):
So I'm like trying to like turn.
I'm like, should I turn thecamera on, should I not?
I'm trying not to move.
I actually I made one move andhe looked up at me.
I'm like, all right, like I'mnot moving, like he's, he's
gonna hang around, because I'veseen him do it all the time,
wouldn't you know it?
All of a sudden I I like I peekaround the tree and I can see
(03:58):
him just walking away.
I was like I'm likeunbelievable man, I can't
believe, like I can't win withthese big ones, right?
So it starts getting late andI've never seen so I was
actually telling squats.
I've never seen so many deerlike especially this year come
(04:19):
like one right after the afterthe other.
I had a group of six does comeby, and then another seven, and
then another six and thenanother five.
I must have saw like 30freaking there.
I was like I'm like, listen, Igotta shoot one of them, you
know.
So I was just sitting up there.
(04:42):
I was like you know which oneam I gonna shoot, you know.
So once you know it all, I letall the groups pass and one big
single doe comes all by herselfand I'm like all right, like
this is going to be the one I'mgoing to shoot her, because then
nothing else is going to getspooked or know what's going on,
because, like you know, so muchcould go wrong when you have
(05:04):
that many eyes on you.
So she was all by herself.
I'm like this is perfect, shother at 18 yards, but it was so
freaking windy.
I was leaning over the tree andI could just feel myself
swaying and it it kind of likemessed me up a little bit.
It took me like I mean it feltlike five minutes, but probably
(05:25):
it wasn't even that long justbefore like I touched off, you
know, on my release because Iwas just swaying and I'm like
waiting.
And once you know I told Scott Ihit her a little far back so I
ended up catching one of herlungs, the liver, and it
(05:46):
actually caught her gut and Iwatched her run off.
She went about I don't knowabout 40, 50 yards and bedded
down, and so I just stood therewatching her.
Actually, I called Squatch onthe phone.
I was like you ain't going tobelieve this shit.
That just happened to me.
I'm like, so I'm just justgonna watch her for a little bit
(06:11):
.
And as me and him were talking,she gets up, she walks about
another five feet, beds downagain.
I'm like all right, well, likeshe's not going nowhere.
So I I stood up there forprobably another 45 minutes.
She gets up, she moves again,and now, like I'm getting hungry
, it's getting late.
(06:33):
I'm like you know, like thewife's making breakfast.
I'm like, all right, I'm justgoing to sneak out of here, but
I don't know how I'm going topull it off because you guys
seen it, it's all open woods andshe's directly facing me and I
I somehow was able to sneak downand not jump her.
I actually I just turned around,I walk, I just walked the same
(06:57):
way.
I walked the uh, you know thesame way.
I came in and I was like I'mjust going to give her plenty of
time because I don't know howlong it's going to take her.
And I went in about fourth.
I went in right before dark itwas about 4 30.
I went in and she was right,right where I last seen her.
So it was a wrap.
(07:17):
I was talking and it wasn't toolong before like she expired
because she was still warm.
So I made the right call.
So but we got him.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, definitely, definitely would, would make the
right call.
And you know we were talking,um, I think today.
Yeah, um, I don't even knowthat it did hit the gut, because
just the way that she reactedlike I've personally not really
when hitting the gut had a deer,stop and just walk, um, you
(07:50):
know, because it did seem likeshe didn't even know what hit
her yep, you know, um, andusually when you, when you get
that gut, I know you knowobviously why she now got up,
bedded, moved fire and gotbecause she was, she was hurting
, yeah, but usually, like I'veseen deer get hit and they just
take off, running, yeah, andthen they will.
(08:12):
Then they will really get down,bedded down, after running at
least 60, 70 yards, maybe intofit.
You know something that's thickor something that cover in it.
You know, we know what theproperty looks like.
So there really isn't much,especially now I can.
Only we saw in the early seasonwhen there was more cover.
Now I mean, I can only imaginewhat it looks like with without
(08:33):
all the cover and everythinglike that.
So pretty interesting.
And you know that that is theright call and it is.
That's a good call to one.
You're playing it so safe, butyou have eyes on the deer, so
you're you're worrying about ohmy god, like is this deer dead?
Like you know, without seeingthat visually, you know you may
(08:56):
have just all right an hour.
Let's yeah, let's go get herand she probably would have
still been well, still wouldhave been alive.
But the fact that you're ableto see her and everything like
that, and just be able to tellthat she got up, walked, got
back down, well, and I meandidn't go far at all what you
said, I think 60 yards and yeah,not even maybe that yeah, yeah,
(09:18):
um.
So that that's, that's a prettyand it's it's everything's a
great learning lesson.
That that's that's for sure andthat's, um, that's one of the
most important things.
But you know to, to give peoplea quick recap of what it
finally started raining andsnowing here in new jersey.
Um, squash.
I don't know what it was likefor you.
(09:38):
I imagine it was kind of thesame thing.
Uh, yeah, we had a mix yeah, soit was something that was very
much needed.
I mean, it's crazy, I was thatday I was in North Jersey um
moving some cameras, cause I'mgoing to try to get up there to
to bow hunt um North Jersey andstuff like that, um for does,
(10:00):
and everything like that, andjust snow, just like snow
everywhere and still snowing,and I I moved down, I I go to my
you know southern jersey spotand go grab a camera or two and
I mean I only went maybe 10, 15miles, not even I probably just
went off the mountain and justrain.
(10:21):
And it's just so crazy of howdifferent it is.
And I know for you, um, it wassnow on the ground for for a.
I know for you, um, it was snowon the ground for for a little
bit for you, and that's part ofthe reason probably why you
heard that buck coming into,because I think from watching
the, the film, there was stillsome snow on the, on the ground
left over.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yep, Yep.
Even even when I shot her,there was still a little left.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So, so yeah, I mean rejoice.
Rejoice I mean the the crazydrought is is over, which we
knew it was going to be over, um, and I think it's supposed to
rain tomorrow and but theweather looks really cold,
upcoming um, yeah really reallygood weather if you, if anyone,
(11:07):
I, I know a lot of people aregoing to be out.
You know it's thanksgiving, yougot the day off and everything.
Maybe you know we were talkingbefore we started recording.
You know sneaking out before,uh, thanksgiving um meal and
everyone comes over andeverything like that, um and try
to get it done and and thingslike that.
But I mean the weather'sshaping up to be to be a good
(11:28):
one, uh, upcoming for I mean atleast for December and January.
I mean we're going to startgetting some real cold
temperature and I heard even youknow the fact that it already
snowed here is a is a prettygood sign.
Hopefully good things to come,because we need snow, we, we
definitely do.
The long-term after no wedefinitely do.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
The long term after this weekend is lows in the
teens and highs maybe in the 30sfor a long stretch into
December.
So I'm hoping.
I'm an ice fisherman.
I want some ice.
Finally.
We haven't had ice here in liketwo or three years ice fish on,
so I can't wait to get out andstart ice fishing a little bit
again.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I would like to try ice fishing once.
That's now that I.
You know I've gotten a lot ofmeat and you know waterfowl is
going to start up, uh, real soon.
I mean we're going to startpursuing some birds and
everything like that coming soon.
And you know, with six day gunseason coming and you know I
definitely want to get intothose other things especially.
You know I've always said, oh,like I want to go ice fishing,
(12:27):
but it's, it hasn't been, hasn'tbeen good good weather, you
know it's, it's just hasn'thasn't been good to to do that.
You know, get out there, dosome squirrel hunting, um,
things like that, um, get thesmall game and everything like
that.
And hey, the colder it gets andmore snowy, the better for
predator season, oh man, I can'twait for that I yeah I can't
(12:47):
wait.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'll as soon as, as soon as deer season's over, I'll
switch gears into that, youknow once it over for you guys
in new york.
Uh, so december 8th is our lastday of rifle season.
Then, uh, the 9th starts,muzzleloader.
It goes to about the 20, Ithink it's a 23rd, then it stops
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for Christmas and then afterChristmas it goes to January 1st
and that's muzzleloader or bow,whatever you want to use.
So with me, because I use mybuck tag in archery, I can only
shoot does with the muzzleloader, unless I don't shoot a buck
with my rifle.
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Any unused tags you can use upat the end.
So but I'm hoping that's notgoing to happen.
I hope I can get on a nice buckin the next couple of days here
with the.
I had one playing cat and mousewith me yesterday.
He's kind of aggravating me alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So you'll get out of it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, man, it's just.
You know, I sat all dayyesterday, all day.
I have a really nice wooden boxblind that I built, and I built
it about five years ago, didn'treally put much of a roof on it
except for plastic, because Iwas in a rush to get it out
there when I first built it.
They lasted five years or soand I started to get a hole in
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the roof.
So back there in the summer Ibrought it up here, I ripped the
roof off of it and put a newmetal roof on it and cleaned it
up inside and stuff.
And the other day I'm sittinghere and I said you know, you
fix that thing all up.
You better bring it back downto the field so when you're off
you'll have something to jumpinto if it gets nasty weather
and still hunt.
So I fired up the backhoe andput the forks on it and carried
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the thing back down the road andbrought it up into the side of
the field where I usually had itup on the top of the field.
But I put it on the side thistime and my neighbor texts me.
He, I put it on the side thistime and my neighbor texts me,
he's his two acres, butts up tothe 58 that I got over there.
And he says, hey, he just wentthrough my, my food plot.
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I said, oh my gosh, I had my sonsitting in the two man.
That's kind of in line with hiscamera.
But my son went out of thewoods at 945 because it was
windier than hell yesterday andhe was freezing up there on the
top of that hill.
So the buck went that way and,uh, I'm sitting there.
It's like almost three o'clockand I'm saying to myself, boy,
(15:18):
my cameras haven't gone off andgive me the notification.
You know that they did theirtest pictures.
What the hell's going on?
So I check it.
The buck went right up the laneright to my stand in the middle
where I shot the eight-pointer.
He went right through there at245.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm likethat's like 85 yards away from
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this box, blind right now.
And he's there.
So I was hoping and praying.
I said maybe he'll make theloop around and come out and
check the field for does orsomething.
But man, maybe he'll make theloop around and come out and
check the field for does orsomething.
But man, I sat there till dark.
But one good thing was I hadthe mr buddy heater on an arrow.
It's nice and warm.
The wind was blowing like crazyand I said, well, this is
living it up, man, it's nice tobe sitting in the blind and
(16:00):
tomorrow's tomorrow's supposedto rain, like you said, for most
of the day, for most of themorning.
So I'm gonna beat feet out tothe blind again and sitting
there with it raining and theheater on and some sandwiches
and hopefully a buck will walkout in the field in the rain.
I'll blast them there, you go.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Isn't that the nice thing, like I love.
I love what we do with thehanging hunts and going crazy
during you know, but sometimesyou just gotta kick back, turn
the heater on and just enjoy youget to.
I think, as much as I lovebeing out in, like purely in
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nature, in a saddle and a standbracing the elements there just
does get to a point of just like, how crazy am I?
I would like let's get into ablind and turn on the heater,
and you know it's a differenttype of you know, because now
you're you're a little morecomfortable it's like all right
(16:57):
like this is.
This is nice and cozy.
You know you can, you don't,you don't have to worry as much
about your movement too.
You know, you can.
You know things, things are.
I call it the lavish lifestyle,even though it's still really
not lavished at all.
Um, you know, but compared towhat we've done during this
whole entire season up to now,it seems pretty lavish for us.
(17:21):
You know, if we get that typeof style of hunting from, uh,
you know the the craziness thatwe've we've gone through so far,
but I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
it's helps you, though it helps you when you got
a bad back, like me, andgetting up there and age a
little bit.
It's nice to have the amenitiesof sitting in there and being
comfortable.
It allows you to, you know,really watch a parcel for an
all-day sit, but you're notkilling yourself.
I was able to come home and Iwas hungry.
I was like I wasn't intendingon sitting all day.
(17:53):
Believe me, I brought a cerealbar and a Dunkin' Donuts, a cold
coffee, with me when I wentinto the stand in the morning
and that's all I had the wholeday.
So when I got home, I was.
I was, uh, what do you call it?
Hangry.
I was angry and, uh, you knowwhen the old squatch gets hangry
, you don't want to get in hisway.
You know.
I was like uh, my wife's likeoh, I got this.
(18:14):
I'm like, just get it, justcook it, just cook it.
Let's just make these pizzas.
Come on, I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm starving.
That's very true too.
It's it's um being able to nowpush yourself to doing the
all-day hunt versus if you'reout battling the, the nature is
like like we would in a, in ahang on or in a saddle or
something like that.
You know the toll that it takeson your body is completely
different because I'll tell youthose more, those cold, cold
hunts, I mean, obviously it'snormal your body is burning up
so many calories trying to keepyou warm and everything like
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that, that by the time you'redone you are just you're spent.
So I mean it, it is a use, it'sa useful tactic also for anyone
.
I don't think it.
You know.
I can only imagine what it'slike in michigan and and some of
these places really, really outthere in the midwest, with you
know no cover and just the windis just howling.
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I've heard about you know whatit's like being in the midwest
with with the wind going andjust how cold it is.
You know I've I've talked topeople in here that have gotten
frostbite and everything likethat from trying to to battle
the, the conditions of of lateseason and everything like that.
So I mean you got to do whatyou got to do and it is nice
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doing an all-day sit and beingsomewhat comfortable and, you
know, not putting the taxingtoll on your body.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Got to have it, man, when you get older.
My old back man from I wasalways that dude that said get
out of the way, I'll lift it anddo this and do that.
You know it's, it's reallycaught up with me doing physical
labor my whole life.
It's just you sit in thesemetal stands and, like you said,
you're out in the elements andwhat happens to to me is I get
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like a core temperature and thenit'll drop and my body will
lock up like it'll start toactually get rib cramps really
bad.
Frank can tell you he's beenaround me.
When I get one or two, you getthose like deep rib cramps and
you just like it's like you'rehaving a heart attack but you're
not and they hurt like hell forlike five minutes.
They don't go away too quick.
(20:28):
So being able to not have yourbody get tensed up like that,
being able to keep your coretemperature warm, it helps.
And, like I said, you know I'mcovering basically all the same
ground that I would be if I wasin one of the other stands.
They're all within maybe 100,150 yards away from me and, uh,
you know, even two at night.
I'll get in there and I'll domy predator hunting out of there
(20:50):
.
Put the caller out, uh, the baitpile would be out in front of
me.
And that's legal in new york,you know, to put dead, dead deer
or whatever the hell you wantto put out in front of you.
But when it's, you know, I'vebeen out.
When we were doing the coyotecontest it was uh geez, I think
it was like 10 would havewouldn't chill factor like
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negative 20 out.
The one night we were.
We were out there hunting andeven the heater froze up.
We had the heater freeze up,the propane froze up and my
son's like it's getting cold pop.
I'm like yeah, let's, uh, we'regonna call it, let's go back.
So, uh it, you know it gets cold, man.
I mean it's not insulated, it'sjust a wooden, basically a
(21:34):
wooden plywood box.
But uh, uh, I it's.
It does stop the window, ithelps you when you're when
you're out there and it it givesyou a little more affordability
in time, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'll tell you, whenever I get a big piece of
private property, the firstthing I'm doing is getting
myself one of those redneck uhblinds and putting it up.
You know, and I, because I lovehunting in the winter, I, I do.
But it also just gets to apoint where I want to just be
comfortable.
I don't want to have to killmyself trying to to get
something, and you know, I, Ijust winter is that time where
(22:11):
it's like I'll do it time andtime.
You know, every once in a whileto battle the conditions.
But you know, especially ifyou're you're feeling run down
or you're tired, or you knowyou're sick and you still want
to get out there, I meansomething like that too, and
just and just, you know, or realquick, you don't want to lug
all this gear with you and youknow that makes the cold hunts
(22:35):
even worse when you're sweatingjust trying to get out there and
everything like that.
So you know it is, it'sdefinitely a good thing to have.
But with Thanksgiving on, youknow what's everyone looking to
do for this Thanksgiving andSquatch what you guys got
planned over there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So usually my son and I will hit the mountain that we
go to, which is about 45minutes, almost an hour away.
We'll sit there, usually find aridge up there in the morning,
hunt that in the morning andthen, you know, come back home
and have dinner with the familyaround 2 or 3 o'clock and I
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usually don't go out thatevening.
But, you know, just spend timewith the family and enjoy the
holiday.
That's usually what we do.
You know, nothing too crazy.
It ain't like the years before.
You know had you know a lot ofrelatives that hunted and
everything.
But a lot of those people aregone.
So you know, we don't get.
We don't get to do those bighunts like we used to, but it
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used to be a big deal.
You know everybody, oh, thatwill be over thanksgiving and
then you know you have a bigdinner afterwards and stuff.
So but uh, you know, even ifit's small, we keep the
tradition alive.
Go out and hang out out therein the outdoors and you know, if
mr buck decides to cooperate,just makes the day that better.
I, I got one that was a halfracked eight pointer, probably
(24:00):
about eight, ten years ago onthanksgiving and it was actually
the last buck I ever shot offthe family property, so it made
it all that sweeter.
That's awesome yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Love it.
How about you, Frank?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So I'll be bow hunting Thanksgiving morning
before the family wakes up.
So yeah, we usually go over toup to my brothers so I usually I
won't be going out for nightpost, but definitely in the
morning I'm hoping to get a buckon the ground.
If not, my plans are I'm goingto hunt basically Friday,
(24:42):
saturday and Sunday and try toget a buck on the ground before
muzzleloader starts, cause I'llbe out Monday for muzzleloader
in Jersey.
So you know we'll, we'll seewhat happens, and so you know
Thanksgiving's with the familyhalf a day.
Then I'm going to be huntinghard Cause I want to try to get
my buck on the ground before thegun season opens.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So yeah, yeah, no, I definitely get that.
I mean I'm going to have a sucha busy thanksgiving this year
we are I won't be hunting.
Unfortunately, I haven't beenable to hunt the last couple
years on thanksgiving, which isa bummer because I always try to
, even though, like I, I alwaystry to get out in the morning,
(25:24):
usually when I'm gonna be home.
But uh, we're going to bianca'sfamily down the shore that I
gotta drive all the way backhome.
Friday to have thanksgivingwith my.
We're gonna do thanks, doThanksgiving, on the Friday with
my family.
Saturday starts PA rifle.
We were going to hunt PA rifleopener Saturday, but now we're
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just going to do it.
Sunday I brought a new slug gun, so I'm hoping to get that
sighted in on Saturday.
And, yes, I finally pulled thetrigger and bought my own.
I was looking for a waterfowlgun and Frank was great enough
to he was going to let me borrowhis muzzleloader.
(26:07):
But I was at the store lookingfor a waterfowl gun because I
really want to get my ownspecific gun for a waterfowl gun
.
Because I really want to get myown specific gun for a
waterfowl.
I use my, my turkey gun for forwaterfowl.
In it I've killed tons of nowdifferent waterfowl with it, but
I'm still a little bit ofdisadvantage, and so that was
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the the most important thing.
And then I was like you knowwhat?
What?
What are some slug guns?
You guys got there and you knowthey.
Of course they had the Savage220 and everything that I want.
But I was like I can't pull thetrigger on a $700 gun without a
scope and I'm only going to huntwith it really for six day and
(26:56):
maybe a few times there here.
I can't justify that when 95 ofthe hunting I do is bow hunting
.
Um, so I was like oh, no, no,what else you guys got?
And he was like, well, you know, if you don't care about price,
we have this.
You know this, uh, mossberg 20gauge, I think it was just under
500 and I was like that'sperfect.
(27:17):
I was like I was like sold.
I was like you got me rightthere, like that, that's the
perfect.
I, that's exactly the pricerange.
I'm not looking to go anythingcrazy.
I texted frank and frank saidhe had the, he had the same one
and and that, uh, you know heloved it and and everything like
that.
So, um, hopefully should begoing to pick it up at the store
tomorrow after work.
(27:37):
I didn't give them a call but,yeah, pretty, pretty excited for
that.
But I mean looking, lookingforward for Thanksgiving,
looking forward to eat.
I mean just that's the onlything like looking forward to
eating, eating so much that Idon't feel good and eating
leftovers for the next.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I don't know how long , like everything is going to be
.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Thanksgiving food.
You know, I don't know.
I think it's such an underratedholiday it's hard to compete
with, like the other big ones,and you look at all of them, you
, you know, but I think this isthe most, this is one of the
most important for for family I.
(28:21):
I think um, it's a littledifferent, because christmas
it's a big family one too, butthat's all about gifts and
nowadays it's all about giftsand and everything like that,
where there's no like those.
And it is just one of thosethings where you get to sit down
(28:46):
with the family and usuallyfrom all over, and have a big
meal and you're literally justeating, having drinks and and
eating pie, and you know,watching TV and knowing that
literally in a few days laterthe Christmas mayhem is going to
start and you got to, if youhaven't already, you got to get
(29:08):
to the gifts and Black Friday isgoing to be there.
Then I think what?
Cyber Monday is coming up andeverything, all those deals that
are that are coming out.
I mean, cabela's has sent melike a thousand things, sick has
sent me like a thousand thingsof all these, these deals and I
was just like, oh my god, we'realready back to this time of the
year yeah, it's crazy happenedquick too quick, too quick.
(29:33):
Yeah, any next thing, frank, ohgo ahead squash.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I was gonna say next thing we'll be planning our
spring turkey hunt yeah, yeahright, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It's crazy how, how time is flying.
It's absolutely just flying butum what anyone, anyone got any
Thanksgiving traditions Besidesthe hunting, besides the hunting
part, any food that you eat,anything like that?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Like any traditions for you guys?
No, not that I know of.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, it's not.
No, as I say, we usually do,like a homemade apple pie or you
know something like along thoselines.
Then, uh, you know the, the,the uh, the tradition is.
I mean with us is always turkey.
You know, um, gotta have thethanksgiving turkey and the
stuffing and and all the fixingsthere and cranberry sauce.
You know all the good stuff Ilove pretty, yeah, pretty
(30:31):
traditional, you with that kindof stuff.
Yeah, that's about it, thoughNothing too crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Two years ago.
So where we're going down theshore, they actually do the boil
.
What the hell is it called whenthey boil the Seafood boil?
No, they fry the turkeys.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Deep fry the turkeys.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Oh, deep fry the turkeys yeah, I will tell you,
it was my first time having it acouple years ago, the juiciest
turkey in the world that I'veever had, and I'm actually very
excited, yeah, to go back downand have a deep fried turkey.
I mean, it was delicious yepI've done it.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah.
Yeah, we used to do them too,me and my brother.
But now my brother I call himbougie now, because now he's
like oh, come over my house.
He's like, but don't bringnothing, because I'm getting it
catered he's like no morecooking for us.
I was like all right, cool.
Even we always go over forChristmas Eve too.
Everything's catered now forthe past couple of years, so all
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right, frank, does your brotherhunt too he used to.
Actually he used to doeverything with us.
He used to deer hunt, he usedto go pheasant grouse,
everything with us.
He just got out of it.
He didn't really it wasn't histhing like he tried it.
I guess he did it because likehe felt like the rest of us were
(31:59):
doing it.
So yeah, but uh it wasn't histhing.
Everyone else in the familyhunts pretty much, you know for
the most part.
You just see he just he never,you know, he just never wanted
to do it.
He like say he every now andthen he'll get the itch on him
to come out.
He comes out for a couple hoursand then he doesn't go out no
(32:20):
more.
He's like ah, he's like ah, I'mover it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Oh wait, that big wind comes.
He's like oh wait, this is whyI stopped.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, he's like nope.
He tells me all the time.
He's like man, you're crazy,You're going out there in this
weather.
I'll be home sitting on thecouch in the heat.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I'm just plugging my laptop in.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, go for it, brother.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
No worries.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I mean then, what does he think about your uncle?
Then I mean, because he's stillout there, you know, having a
ball and everything like that hethinks he's even more crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
But you know, I grew up doing that with you know,
with my uncle and mygrandparents and all that.
So I mean it's just it'sawesome that he's still that
he's 72 and he's still like hestill wants to go, go, go go.
He still wants to track thedeer, he still wants to do
everything.
You know, it's like it'sbasically it's like I was a kid
(33:19):
again.
You know he's, he's stillalmost the same way.
So and squatch loves him, myuncle, angelo he's a.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He's a crazy son of a gun man.
Reminds me like an olderversion of me.
Yeah, yeah, no, he's great man.
I can't wait.
We've got to get up there.
I've got to get up there andhang out with you guys We'll
have a freaking blast man,because I can tell just for a
little bit.
I've been around him witheverything.
It's funny.
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He's one of those old schoolguys I've been around.
I grew up around people likethat, so it brings back a lot of
memories.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's a lot of fun so, yeah, yeah, like I said he
always, he left the invitationopen to you.
Thank you to you too, mike, aswell.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
He's you know, he's like come up you know we'll eat,
we'll drink, we'll hunt, we'lldo this, we'll do that.
I am telling you that we are,we're gonna plan some, get some
good times.
Uh, you know, definitely,especially next year.
You know we're gonna, we'regonna do it correct.
We're gonna do some bow huntingthere.
And the guns like I said, thegun season I I really want to
(34:28):
see what, just video that andyou know it's a, it's a great
story to tell too and, um,hopefully, a bunch of deer down
and but, you know, that'ssomething that I definitely want
to do more of with, witheveryone.
And you know what I was talking.
I'm actually was on the buckdown uh podcast.
Um, we recorded the other day,um, and that's something that,
(34:51):
uh, he's thinking about, um,they're, they're in talks of
doing is is a hunt like that outin PA at one of the big, you
know, state places during bowseason, and I was like, listen,
you tell us the date.
I was like, as long as you giveus a notice, I mean we'll,
we'll, we'll definitely be outthere, do some camping out there
.
And I think that's the coolthing, I mean.
(35:12):
You mean, you know, squash gotto do that this year.
You know, went to ohio and putup the tents, and you know, I
think that's, I think that'smissing part of you know, from
the olden days, like how muchdeer cap, deer camp really meant
to people, you know, and it's,it's really about just the
memories and the bond andhanging out.
(35:33):
And you know, right now it's,you know, yes, there's people
that do it and everything likethat.
But I think, because of justwhere social media and I can
connect with, you know, evensquatches, you know, only a
couple hours away, but even asquash was six, seven hours away
, it's like you know, hey, youknow we don't have to all meet
up together because you know wecould all call each other, we
(35:54):
can all text each other, we canall FaceTime each other.
Where the deer camps have kindof just just gone away a little
bit, and I think that'ssomething that definitely needs
to to make a comeback.
I mean at least once a year.
For you know, for us andeveryone out there, if you get
the chance to go to a deer campat least once a year, definitely
(36:15):
take the opportunity.
I mean I would, I would like todo one where, listen, I would
love the families to come to.
Like you know, I think it.
I think it means even more when,when the families are there and
when everyone's having a goodtime cooking, laughing the guys
are, and even the girls.
If they want to go out and huntduring the day, we go out and
hunt during the day.
Then we come home, sit by thefire, drink and, you know, eat
um and just and just um, pig outwith food and just tell stories
(36:39):
and everything like that.
Like that's, that big part ofthat is missing.
Um, you know, and I, I hope, uh, we can definitely bring that
back pretty, pretty hard in inthe next, uh, next upcoming
years yeah, I got, uh, I gotsome plans already starting for
next year.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I got uh, johnny, nitro and uh dave heath and
maybe brett, uh bowen gonna comeout and uh do some new york
hunting with us out here.
Um, dave's got a great bigoutfitter tent, stuff like that
and I told him I said you knowour state land within 45 minutes
of here.
You know I gave them the openinvitation even to hunt some of
my private with me.
(37:16):
You know it's, it's no big deal.
Um, so maybe we can makesomething out of it.
You know we'll, we'll get someguys together and have a big
whoo out here.
I already told frank.
I said you know they, they wantto meet yous and you know, come
out, but they're they'reanxious to get out.
So, uh, I, I, it was.
You know, like you know when youtalk to people and you you get
(37:39):
a feel for somebody and it'slike, well, I, I probably known
johnny the longest, so addedboth of them.
But you know they're just goodpeople.
It's like you know, we all kindof like met and got to know
each other and stuff.
And you know, when you got thatkind of stuff going on, you're
just happy to help people.
I just hey, man, if you want tocome out and hunt, you come out
(37:59):
and hunt.
You know it's the invitationshere.
You know we'll cook.
I can throw a tent up here inmy backyard.
It's big enough, you know, andyou know we'll go from there.
I don't care, you know, justmake it a big, big fun thing.
So we're going to put somedates together, figure something
out, hopefully for the future,for some kind of deer camp for
next year.
It'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
Bianca might kill me all thetime I'm spending in deer camp,
but she likes coming usually,like when we went to bear camp
she came and everything likethat you know.
So she, when we go to, when Igo to, when I go to um camp for
(38:42):
six day, she's coming like shelooks forward to all those
things and everything like that.
You know, even if she's nothunting, she just likes being
there, she likes you know thecooking, she likes hanging out
by the fire and just relaxing,just getting away from
everything you know, you know of, just really like how life
really should be.
You know and that's the that'sthe most, at least in my eyes
(39:05):
like that's just how the worldshould be and life should be and
how us as humans should reallybe living.
But you know I'm also not acity person and none of us are
really city people.
So you know it's, it's easy forus to say that, yeah, yeah, but,
um, well, guys, I mean, I Ithink that's gonna call it for
(39:26):
for this week.
I mean, you know it is, it isthanksgiving.
You know everyone out therehunting, just enjoy, stay safe.
Um, you know, we're we'relooking forward to talking to
everyone again and hearingstories.
We're getting closer tochristmas and and things like
that, and unfortunately gettingclose to the end of the season,
(39:47):
um, you know, but with that Imean a lot of great things are
are about, like I said, we willbe at the Empire State Show on
February 28th to March 2nd.
If anyone's in the area, comeout.
(40:08):
We will be talking about thatconstantly and we'll keep
bringing it up.
The game dinner, we're, you know.
You know, like I said, it'slooking to be the first week of
april, um, and then, of course,we're eventually going to be
doing our bow shoot and and meetand greet at some point too in
the summer, um, so, and then youknow, of course, uh, the
(40:29):
traditional, um, great americanoutdoor show will be there for
for a couple days and everythinglike that.
So if anyone really, you know,if you want to get together,
meet, anything like that, we'reall very open to that.
I mean, that's how you know wemet squash.
I mean, I met squash for thefirst time after talking on
instagram and everything likethat at one of our events.
(40:50):
Um, you know, I've met frankfor the first time, I think at
at um, at the great americanoutdoor show, I believe last.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
No, actually I met you before, actually any of that
before.
Yeah, it was when mytaxidermist.
They threw that whole um, whatthe hell was it?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
they threw like that oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
, you're right at that event.
Yes, at that, uh, at that event.
Yes, yes, you're right.
Yes, I met you, the wife andthe kids at, uh, yes, at that
event in sussex.
Yeah, yeah, um, so I mean, alot of us have, all you know,
(41:33):
we've all introduced ourselvesfrom Instagram and everything
like that, and then haveeventually come across one of
each other in're not a poacherand a, you know, a, a scumbag or
something like that.
Listen, I, I will never judgeyou and you.
We're all part of the samecommunity and you know, we just,
(42:04):
we just all have to to be therefor each other, honestly, um,
you know, and that that's themost important thing.
But, um, guys, I know I'm goingto talk to you, but happy
thanksgiving to you guys, happythanksgiving to everyone out
there.
Um, you know, and I hopeeveryone enjoyed this episode
and we'll see you guys next timehappy thanksgiving everybody
(42:26):
thanks for doing everybody.
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