July 22, 2025 • 43 mins
The countdown to hunting season is officially underway, and the excitement is building among the Boondocks Hunting team. As summer heat bears down, the crew gathers to welcome newest team member Zach and share their pre-season preparations, challenges, and expectations.
The conversation kicks off with a deep dive into the annual Boondocks Hunting competition—a months-long friendly tournament running from September through February that assigns point values to different game animals with various bonuses for antler size, weight, and more. With a modest $30 buy-in and an emphasis on ethical hunting practices, this competition has become a cornerstone of community building among the team. Past champion Brad holds a two-time winning streak that everyone's eager to break this season.
Summer scouting reports reveal fascinating patterns emerging in this unusually hot and rainy year. While mineral sites are showing heavy activity with impressive ground depressions, target buck sightings remain surprisingly scarce compared to previous seasons. The team theorizes that high corn and bean fields are providing ample cover, temporarily changing movement patterns compared to last year's drought conditions. Trail cameras are capturing more bears than mature bucks, suggesting this season may unfold differently than anticipated.
The extreme weather conditions are creating unique challenges—from encounters with rattlesnakes and wasp nests to sinking knee-deep in flooded terrain. These stories of outdoor mishaps provide both laughs and valuable lessons about respecting the unpredictability of nature. The group shares their concerns about early season hunting conditions, predicting higher mosquito pressure and changed deer movement patterns due to abundant natural water sources.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Garden State Outdoors and
Podcast presented by Boone.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ducks Hunting you know, and that's why you're,
you're um, you're tagline.
Like you know, jcl knownperfect.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You don't know what that mountain's gonna bring.
You don't know what thatmountain's gonna bring.
I accidentally drifted my canoebetween a sow and a cub and she
like charged and like hit likethe back of the canoe.
His head hit the ground beforehis ass did.
Begging and crying to go withmy grandfather, go with my
father on these deer drives.
(00:30):
You know, the last trip over Ishot a great Cape Buffalo with
my bow charging through thegrass, and then the whooping.
And then you hear.
Welcome to the Garden StateOutdoors and Podcast.
I am your host, Frank Mastica.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm your co-host, Mike Neytre.
And today we've got Remember.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Zach, that was in the hunt, that's right, oh.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Frank screwed it up.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
My bad, Zach, but Zach, hey, you're our newest
team member.
We're all excited to have youon.
You sound perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Perfect, right there.
Yeah it's right there Don'tmove.
No, right, I'll tell you, everysingle time we do a show and we
have new team members joining,somehow we always screw up the
(01:27):
intro.
I will say it's easier for me,so I'm kind of happy where I'm
usually not the one screwing itup, right?
But you know, it is always andand wait until we get like
probably the big update, likeright before season starts, when
(01:48):
we get literally everybody on,we officially have four new,
brand new team members.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We may have one or two more joining, which we'll
just with with timing andeverything like that, but we're
gonna have anywhere between fourto six new new members uh on on
this, on this podcast, all atonce and we're gonna have to get
the uh the intro correct.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
We're gonna have to do an intro over an intro.
But that's awesome, man, like I, just I just want to take a
second and just say, like it'sawesome to see how far boondocks
hunting has come.
You know, mike, you've done anincredible job.
You've built an incredible teamwith everybody.
Again, like I appreciateeverything you've done for me as
(02:39):
well and I'm just like I'm I'mvery stoked for this season
coming up and I I honestly Ithink we're going to slay it.
This year.
We got some some hard, you know, some hard heavy hitters coming
on that joined the team and I'mlooking forward to it, man yeah
, man, same here.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I appreciate the opportunity that you've reached
out to me and put me on yourpodcast and then, more
importantly, reached back outand offered me a spot on the
team.
Man, it's a huge opportunityfor myself and it's been a fun
ride since we started.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Man, I really appreciate it yeah, no, I mean,
I mean I I appreciate you guyscoming on and you know, um,
we're always and I always telleveryone like we're always
looking to grow every singleyear um, you know, the quality
qualifications for for us,really the the most important
thing, you know, when we talk toall the guys and everything
like that and ladies, um, youknow, was really, you know we're
(03:34):
really a brotherhood of familyand everything like that.
So that's like the mostimportant thing for for us when,
uh, you know me squatch and uhfrank here sat down and you know
, talked to all the new uhmembers and everything like that
and same thing moving forward,you know it's something that is
going to be, I think, the mostimportant thing for us.
And I mean you know I don'twant to toot our own horn here
(03:56):
too much, but I mean I imagineZach can tell you like look at
how many different group chatsyou've been thrown in already,
like Instagram stuff stuff Likeyou
know we have.
We have our, ladies andgentlemen, we do have our
hunting um, our boondockshunting, archery, uh, tournament
coming up and basically youknow, if you guys don't know
(04:18):
cause we've kind of kept thattight lid for the last two years
, um, you know, is we we run,run a a tournament.
It goes the whole entire yearand each animal has a point
system.
There's bonuses for for eachanimal and everything like that
and it's unlimited, like it'llstart probably september 1st and
(04:39):
probably go to february 1st andyou, if you hunt in six states,
you get to tag as long as it'slegal in the state that you're
hunting.
It is illegal in our, in ourcompetition.
So yet again it puts the peopleat a big advantage of if they
travel a lot or they have astate, like New Jersey, that has
unlimited does or seven bucktags.
(05:01):
Now we haven't had seven buckskilled in the in the tournament
or anything like that.
But, um, you know, we've hadsome guys put some some hammers
down frank and, uh, brad frombuckeye brothers outdoors they
are the defending champs.
Brad is the two-time defendingchamp.
He won the first year when wedid solos um.
(05:22):
So now this year I think we'regoing to be doing duos again or
maybe even doing trios.
We'll see how many people join.
So if anyone out there isinterested in joining, we are,
we're, we're looking, we'retaking um, we're accepting it.
It's 30 buy-in.
Um.
The only thing that we do ask,and why I haven't really made it
public, is because I trustbasically everybody in in that
(05:44):
group.
So, like, moving forward, we'regoing to have a 10 point
deduction if you wound an animaland you do not find it or you
you do not recover an animal.
Now I'm not worried about itreally because every guy in
there is pretty honest andtruthful and we kind of already
let each other know when we havebad shots or we wound a deer
(06:06):
and anything like that.
But I and I hope no one takesoffenses I can't personally
vouch for you know, some randomperson comes and joins and
everything like that.
So that's why we really haven't.
But, um, as we grow andeverything like that.
And this is another fun,exciting thing for us to do and
I eventually like it'seventually going to be like a
war award show, like so the gamedinner.
I want.
I eventually like it'seventually going to be like a
war award show, like so the gamedinner.
(06:26):
I want to eventually make itlike everyone who participated
they're going to come and youknow we'll introduce the person
with the biggest buck or youknow, and do all these cool
things just to help build, uh,the community more and more and
more.
So we're really looking forwardto uh forward with that and if
anyone wants to join, like Isaid, yeah, you know, you're
more than welcome.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, no, definitely.
And you know the one thing,cause last year was my first
year joining, so I didn't reallyknow what to expect.
But I mean all the people inthere that we have right now and
actually it's it's growing.
As we actually speak, thephones are probably blowing up,
more people want to join, butit's definitely like it's
(07:08):
growing.
As we actually speak, thephones are probably blowing up
more people on the join.
But um, it's definitely likeit's fun, it's a friendly
competition and you know, thisyear, you know, like I said,
whether we do teams again or ortrios, like it's, it's just a
blast, it's all about just goingout there having fun.
Like you know, I did make a badshot on one last year, but I'm,
you know, hoping not to repeatthat this year.
So you know, we'll just seewhat happens and you know, like
(07:31):
I said, it's just best of luckto everybody and I'm looking
forward to it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, and as a newcomer for this year, it's
such a unique opportunity toactually be able to network with
everybody here and just get toknow everybody on a personal
level and I think that's themost important thing and then
actually just building thatbrotherhood, like you were
saying, mike, and it's justsomething that I think a lot of
people that are kind ofskeptical when it comes to
(07:55):
things like this honestly, Ijust jumped right into it and
said, yeah, I'm down, I'm doingit and you know what, in the
past 24 hours, I've met so manycool people and the
opportunities out there to justnetwork.
It's just a blessing.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So I encourage you guys to join, like far out and I
think you know a lot of the thepeople's big worries, and even
my way I remember the first yearlike I was so in my head and
everything like that.
But you know, yes, it does puta little bit of a pressure,
especially when we did the team,when it was single, like no one
really I don't think felt thepressure, but when we did the
(08:28):
teams because, like you, seeyour teammate doing well, but
then also that for me that is amotivation and that pushes you
to just be better and you know,to go out there and give it your
all.
But everyone's very welcoming,everyone, especially once the
season kicks off, once the firstpicture comes in then it's,
it's literally, it is game onbut everyone is so happy for
(08:52):
each other and it really doesn'tmatter, you know what you shoot
, or anything like that.
Like it doesn't matter if it's asmall doe or anything like that
, a small buck, like listen,everyone just congratulations,
congrats, like hell.
Yeah, like you know what I mean, and it it also just helps
build, like if you're somebodywho's not confident or and stuff
like that like it does helpbuild confidence because
(09:14):
everyone is pretty like vocal ofjust being like there's no
really bashing in and I won't,and I won't even allow it.
This is something that I havefull control over, you know, I
mean, I mean I'm not.
You know we're not really goingto allow bashing, because how
many times do we say, like youknow, on our shows, like, hey,
this is we want, like, yeah, ahundred percent, let me, let me
repost it, let me, you know, dothis.
(09:36):
And you know we're going tocelebrate the fact that you got
a deer down.
It doesn't matter the size, oranything like that.
So, um, it's a pretty goodgroup of guys.
We're really looking excited.
(09:56):
We're really excited for yearthree.
Um, it's, it's.
It's definitely going to be fun.
It's, it's.
It makes for a good time and itmakes hunting season also a
little little better because,like, who doesn't have a little
friendly competition?
And you know it's we.
We got to beat brad.
Brad can't win three times youknow, that that can't happen.
So, um, you know, and for anyonewho's wondering, it's not only
(10:19):
deer, so it is bear, it iscoyotes, it's um, it is turkey.
Um, I know, new jersey, here welost our fall, our fall um,
turkey, but it is bear, it iscoyotes, it is turkey.
I know, in New Jersey, here welost our fall turkey, but it is
elk, and it is moose too as well.
I am thinking about adding,like, maybe boar or something
like that, just in case if weget anybody or any other animals
.
As we go on, we're probablygoing to add, you know, animals
(10:42):
and stuff like that.
But and everything, like I said,has a bonus.
So I think, once you like fromthere, for instance, I think
once you get to 100, 100 pounds,which is whatever, every 50
pounds is an extra point, youknow, and so like, and and every
, yeah, so, like we've we've hadsome big bears shot and
everything like that, and it'sgiven some people a pretty big,
(11:06):
you know, point spread.
We also do have like the 200pound club for deer.
So I think that's even an extrafive or 10 points if you shoot,
and I think we've had so farone buck be killed and that gave
somebody a lot of points, andalso for deer too, they have the
antler point.
So it's five points for a deer,and if it's a buck you get that
(11:27):
five points for deer, and thenyou get how many antler points,
and then if you hit a certainweight you get another bonus
somebody even with one deer canget a huge bonus, and you know
same thing with bear andeverything like that.
So it's just pretty fun.
You know, I'm really, reallylooking forward to it.
But boys, why don't we?
(11:49):
It's summertime, it is, we arenot that far away.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I'm sorry that I'm taking over.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, no, go for it, brother, go for it.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
This one.
You know I'm just.
I can't believe it's alreadywhat, july 17th yeah.
This season is really not thatfar away.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's crazy.
I, a lot of people, only havelike a month and a half to get
going, and that's how it is downhere in the border of North
Carolina and Virginia.
It's like like today I was outthere in the woods I saw three
doge's take off.
I was like it's so close.
I'm just like, oh, so close.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm just like, oh, it got me amped, like I just can't
wait yeah, I mean I just putout like my first set of cameras
, I think like a week, week anda half ago, like mike's like hey
man, you gotta get out there.
Mccall shit.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I know I was like dude, fucking july already, like
it just flew by, like I can'tbelieve it, man yeah, I had one
of those seasons last year whereI was able to get eight and
like if I could repeat thatevery year, to where I just put
food on the table.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Like yeah, I'll be ecstatic it's um, it's, uh, it's
uh.
And I I do it every year.
I'm like, all right, by julyI'm gonna get all my hunting
majority of my hunting choresdone cameras out, minerals out
like everything.
I'm so I can coast in july,enjoy vacation and not have to
(13:11):
worry um.
Now I'm like, all right, can Iget everything done by the end
of july, so maybe august.
All I have to do is glass deerand not be in the woods like and
and the weather.
You know, zach, I don't knowwhat it's like really for.
For you, I imagine it'sprobably kind of typically the
same, but it's very hot thissummer.
But it's very know what it'slike really for you, I imagine
it's probably kind of typicallythe same, but it's very hot this
summer, it's very humid andit's very wet.
(13:31):
We're getting all these bignasty storms.
I do want to take a second andwant our thoughts and prayers
are out there for, first of all,I want everyone affected by the
floods and everything like thatdown in Texas and all the other
states and New Jersey as well,but also for the the bow, the
archers down in, I think, southJersey that were struck by
(13:54):
lightning and and everythinglike that.
So I know that was.
That happened yesterday, july16th.
So I thought in.
Prayers are with you guys, butit's, it's one of those things
that I was thought and prayersare with you guys, but it's,
it's one of those things that Iwas.
My bow got messed up.
So, everybody, yeah, I'm randommy hoist, my baby, my main bow.
(14:16):
I opened up the the case.
I don't know, somehow it gotloose in the truck and was
rolling around or whatever in myboat case, but my strings were
completely like in one spot,just like it looked like a mouse
did eat it, like it definitelydoes.
I didn't find any poop.
(14:36):
I don't even know how thatwould even be possible.
Um, so I'm about to get my hoitbow restrung.
Um, thank god, I do have thebackup bow, the brand new
matthews that I that I won fromthe pursuit live crew that's
actually sitting right overthere.
Um, I'm gonna get that all setup.
So I'll be carrying two bowsthis year.
But yesterday, after thatdebacle, I was like, all right,
(14:59):
let me head to the woods, let me.
One of my cell cameras hasn'tsent me a picture.
I don't know if the storm moved, um, move something, or you
know what I mean, or tree fell,or you know what I mean.
So I wanted to go out there andI'm walking out and just the
cloud just got black and I waslike, yeah, no I was like let me
turn around right right now.
(15:20):
And I booked it right back tothe truck and I was like I'm
going home I'm you are notwinning.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You are not winning.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
No no, not at all, Anybody who knows Mike.
One thing he does not do isthunderstorms, lightning,
anything.
No, he's done.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I will literally hunt or do anything in any condition
.
I have no issues Like I'vehunted in blizzards and all
these things like torrentialdownpour, like I've hunted in
blizzards and all these thingslike torrential downpour.
The minute I hear or seelightning or thunder, I am gone.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
There's nothing but paranoia on me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'll be in the tree constantly refreshing my phone
to see if there's a lightningalert because, like I, just I
don't mess with it and it's notlike it's just the one thing
that if I would say I was scaredof, like anything besides the
deep dark ocean.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
um, it is definitely, definitely lightning is is my
number one thing and, and reallyfor good, for good reason,
honestly yeah, no, absolutelyyeah, especially after what
happened yesterday, like itmakes total sense because a
freak accident can happen,especially like in texas with
that flooding you just neverknow.
And yeah for hunters that dohunt in the wadis and something
(16:34):
like.
That's where a lot of bucks gocruising through, like sometimes
, man, if it's just too dry youjust gotta get out of there, and
it just makes sense.
You know it's not worth it yeah, so zach.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
One thing I want to touch on, because yet again, we
don't get to experience thatmuch I think frank may be able
to, because I think in westjersey we do have a little more
of a copperhead and timberrattlesnake problem, but you
actually encountered arattlesnake today.
So like what, what's that?
Like because you're more souththan us, like how crazy is that?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
or honestly, so it's not that crazy to like run
across them.
So here in um virginia there'scane breaks and they're they're
beautiful snakes.
Um, I just just happened to gocheck one of my cameras because
the same thing.
I haven't been getting anythingon it in the last couple days
and they'll like randomly sendme something.
I just had to go switch out thebatteries and I thought that
was the trick.
I got back to my truck stillnothing, so I'm just gonna go
(17:26):
back out there tomorrow to dealwith it.
But I went to go put the uh ratgetters out and all of a sudden
I just see this long, straightstick and it's fat, and I see
the head and I just see the tail.
I'm like, oh, that's a, that'sa huge snake, and I just backed
up a little bit and I looked atit and it curled up.
I just pulled out my phone andtook a video of it, as you can
(17:46):
see like it was like just goingnuts.
But yeah, I think what theworst part was.
About five minutes later I'mwalking right back in that path
and I know where he was becauseI leaned a stick on the tree and
he was gone.
I'm like, well, at least he has,at least he has at least he has
a rattle to tell me if I'mclose by.
So yeah, um, but usually thecopperheads are the, the bigger,
(18:07):
biggest culprit around here,like, but the good news is about
copperheads they buy you.
It's just gonna be very, verypainful, but a rattlesnake man
it's you gotta go getlacerations and up and down your
wherever you get bit and it'sjust painful.
So yeah but yeah I would havebeen out of there bro well, it's
all I usually would take like apistol with me or a shotgun,
but me hunting out a militaryinstallation.
(18:27):
It's such a good time I usuallywould take like a pistol with
me or a shotgun, but me huntingout of military installations,
like I can't just be walkingaround with a pistol.
I mean, who's this guy?
It's just you know, don't worryabout me, I'm just just hunting
, no big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But yeah, so that was one of those things.
One of the things do you wearsnake boots or or stuff like
that?
Like I know how?
Like, because I know you said,you know you do come across and
yet again, you know thatvirginia, north north carolina
area too, where you're going tobe hunting, and everything like
that, like by the time huntingseason comes along, is it?
(18:56):
Is it that common as thetemperature, I know, as the
temperature goes down andeverything I know?
Summer is one thing, but areyou somebody who who wears the
boots, or by that time, usuallyit's, it's kind of good honestly
, I never wear snake boots.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Uh, that's just my, my thing.
I guess I'm not not too worriedabout it.
Um, there's a lot of guys thatdo wear them.
It just helps keep liketriggers and ticks off of their
legs and stuff.
But yeah, for me, I just, Idon't know like, I just I'm not
very fearful of snakes.
If I see them I'm an adult I'mjust gonna go around them.
I'm not like my son who likesto grab snakes and it's just
like I'll put it down.
(19:31):
But it's just, god, I don'tknow.
Yeah, it's a, it's a handful,but yeah, that's just, I don't
know, that's just my, not me.
I'm not a big fan of likewearing boots all the way up to
my knees, pretty much so I justrock my Columbia's and yeah.
I'll wear my Columbia's.
I am getting the Osseo one soonand I'm looking forward to that
(19:52):
, so see how those go yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh, nice yeah All right, how, how else?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
you know what.
What's the?
You know some of the preseason,you know stuff you got the
racket are out and everythinglike that.
Uh, how long has the mineralsites been out?
Have you noticed yet the holes?
Dude, I have some giant holesyeah from.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
The bag.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It is insane, yeah I.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
So I just put out the drip my first drip bag today,
because I wanted to.
I wanted to catch the lay ofthe land, um, where I'm hunting
that, and just see if I couldcatch traffic.
Saw a little bit of traffic andthen it just died down because
the heat here is just sounbearable.
So I just said screw it andwent to go put a drip bag out
today.
But I used some Maniac Outdoorsseeds and stuff like that, put
(20:37):
that down and some salt lick outand they have just been getting
smashed, especially near awater source too.
So that's been hooking me up alot, but no target buck yet.
So it's kind of like I don'tknow if they're just cruising,
if they're not in that arearight now, which is fine, um,
but it's just like darn like I'mreally looking forward to find
(20:58):
a target buck this year and justnothing yet.
Usually I have one or two bynow.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So I think it's just, yeah, I'm, I'm in the same boat
.
I mean I had mine out forprobably, I think, like two
weeks, three weeks and, likemike was saying, like some of
the spots I have, because rightnow I got three racket or drip
bags out and the one just ishammer.
I mean the hole is ridiculous.
The other two, I mean they'vebeen touched a little bit but
(21:26):
nothing crazy, because the one Iput on the opposite side of
this farm that I've been huntingbecause I wanted to actually
get to know that side and get toknow it a little better.
But I mean it's mostly, youknow the bear's been on top of
them.
I mean Mike's been seeing thepictures, I've been the cubs.
Now I got mama with two cubs.
(21:46):
I got, you know, a prettydecent, nice-sized bear in there
.
Then there's another group oftwo of them, but I mean it's
just but barely any target bucksthis year, which kind of took
me by surprise.
But I'm not, you know, I'm notnervous just yet.
I've been getting, you know, alot of does, but every now and
(22:09):
then I'll get like a buck justcruising by.
That's, that's pretty decent.
There's one in there that'spretty wide.
He's well past his ears already.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
His brow tines are pretty high already, so I mean,
we'll just see what happens yeah, that's kind of like how I'm
trying to figure everything outright now, like this time last
year, I had two or three.
Never saw them in the season,they just disappeared.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So it's just I guess there's a time right now where
they're just not around yeah, I,I think definitely the humidity
has and the heat is something,because last year was hot but it
wasn't like we had that oneweek really right before I went
to england and scotland.
But besides that, like, I don'tthink last year was anything
(22:52):
crazy and it definitely wasn'tthis way.
I was not much too, and you know, what I noticed is, man, some
of the spots the beans and thecorn already are so high that
one you might not even see them.
And I think, a lot of bucks,you know.
For me, personally speaking,like I just think I have a lot
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of bucks that are bedding cotton.
They're just going to be inthere right now they're going to
be in the corn.
I had one nice, real niceshooter, but I haven't seen him
now in maybe like two weeks.
But I think part of it is likethe waters have gotten high.
He's probably gone out into oneof the fields just to, you know
, be by the beans and everythinglike that.
I think once we get closer toseason and those especially,
(23:38):
once the beans dry and burnt,you know they're done and
everything like that, and theystart to die, he'll be back.
You know they'll be back wherethey, where they're going to
need to be.
But we still.
We don't have much time, but westill have plenty of.
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's just this weird thing, Ithink, to find bucks anybody out
there, like if you stillhaven't found one, we have
plenty of time for that.
(23:58):
We may not have plenty of timefor chores but we definitely
have plenty of time to to stillfind, um, you know, some shooter
bucks and everything like that.
But it's a real different yearand I think it's going to be.
Last year we went with thedrought.
This year there's going to be alot of rain, I think there's
going to be a bit more deerkilled earlier and bigger deer
(24:24):
killed earlier.
I think a lot of people lastyear struggled with the fact
they didn't have natural uhwater sources and weren't able
to put in water sources, so itfelt really slow last year.
I think this year it's going tobe for almost everyone.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's going to be a lot quicker and everything like
that, just because of there's,there's, there's rain, then
there's plenty of rain andvegetation I think, with all the
rain that's coming in, uh, justdefinitely going to keep the
vegetation green longer, andthat's where they're going to
get a lot of their water from aswell.
So that's that's good.
But it's just also kind of likeman that that takes away from
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one of my creeks that I usuallyhunt at, and it's just like
they're probably going to be inthe bean fields or they're
probably gonna be in thecornfields.
So it's like I haven't put alot of tender loving care into
that area just because I knowthey're not really around there.
Um, but I'm just lookingforward to the season.
I just wanted to start already.
My buddy Rodney's got someproperty down about 20 minutes
(25:20):
from here, so we're going tohunt his property.
We're looking forward to that.
So that's in North Carolina andwe're going to have a lot going
on there, so looking forward tothat, oh yeah, I mean I can, we
can go.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It feels like tomorrow the season's going to
start.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Honestly, I wish it was already.
I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
You get like I don't't know, like at this point
, like I'm over the heat, I'mjust so yeah, going outside and
dying, like usually, like I'mbig on working outside and I
don't I don't mind doing itafter work, but right now, with
the humidity, I don't mind thehumidity, right now it's like I
don't want to go for a run.
Right, I literally don't like.
I'm like I don't want to go fora run.
I don literally don't like.
(26:05):
I'm like I don't I don't wantto go.
I don't really want to beoutside.
Um you know I'm looking forwardto that that cooler fall
weather.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Um so yeah, here we don't really get that really
nice cool weather.
It's like, for some reason thisyear it was like all right,
it's spring, it's not hot, nothot, there's no in between, and
it's just boom, instantly hot.
Like there was no acclimationfor us here so it kind of sucked
.
And then when the fall hitsit's like hot, hot, hot, hot,
(26:37):
instantly cold.
So it's kind of like man, but Idon't know that was.
This is like my second or mythird year hunting in virginia,
so last year it was kind of nice.
This year I'm really hopingit's gonna be one of those
seasons where it's like it stayscool and it's just like oh man,
I just wear flannel and that'sabout it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
But that'd be great yeah, yeah, right you know it go
, I'm like go ahead.
No, no I was gonna say, I thinkfor us, like, since our season
starts here in september, youknow, I mean again, it's not
that far away um, I think we'regonna get hammered by mosquitoes
this year, yeah, like last year.
(27:16):
I mean, it wasn't that bad but,I know, like this year, like I
don't know about you, mike, butlike where I've been scouting, I
mean all of a sudden like I'mdying and I have my thermos, so
I have everything.
I mean it's you know it, youknow how it is.
It just I'm just like damn, andthe ticks forget about it.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh my god, they're so bad this year yeah, they are,
it's unbearable.
Yeah, I went turkey huntingthis year and I was just on my
hands and knees trying to crawlthrough this like little ditch
to get to this turkey and I popup and I am just covered in
ticks.
I'm like what is going?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
on Yep.
I took a Bianca and I went outglassing a brand-new piece a
couple weeks ago before we wenton vacation.
Great, saw some no likeshooters, maybe, like, maybe one
.
But I took one step out and Ijust wanted to get a little.
We're in the truck and I waslike, all right, let me just.
(28:10):
I'm gonna run like 50 yards upthis, you know a little.
Even the grass wasn't too highor anything like that, and I'm
in my shorts and sandals withsocks on them.
You know, that's, that's how Irock it um and all of a sudden I
get back to the truck.
I think I had probably like 15ticks on me from a quick like 50
yard walk with not even in likehigh grass or or anything like
(28:34):
that, just all on my feet andeverything like that.
Um, they're, yeah, they're,they're brutal.
Um, the mosquitoes are going tobe bad and for me, it's going
to depend on where I'm hunting.
Yeah, west in the swamp.
Yeah, it's going to be brutal.
I think I'm going to be able toget away with it.
Um, you know more south onthose, you know on all those ag
fields and everything like thatyeah but I do have a lot of
(28:57):
water also in the area and itdoes.
The river does overflow, so itdoes flood a lot.
So that is something that isgoing to be new for me.
To challenge of last year yetagain, I hunted that piece for
the first time and saw it in adrought.
What are we going to look likethis year with now much more
pockets of water?
(29:18):
They're complete ponds andeverything like that.
They were just so dried up thatdeer were using it like crazy.
Now what are they going to donow to navigate?
I don't know how deep it getsor anything like that.
So what are they going to do tonavigate around that?
What?
How is it going to change?
You know their, their huntingum, their lanes and their, their
(29:39):
travel corridors and everythinglike that.
So I'm really looking forwardto that.
You know, I hope the raindefinitely maybe dies down a
little bit in august likeespecially like the second half
of august.
I don't want it to to rainnearly as much.
We still need a little bit ofrain, but nothing like what
we've been getting.
This and everything like thatis just it's too much it really
(30:04):
is especially down too.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
It seemed like it was just like a week of rain and
then like two days of sun andthen another week of rain, and
you're like, can we just catch alittle bit of a break?
My garden is just going bananaswith how much water it's
getting, Like the cucumbers arejust getting kind of like woody
and it's just like ah, but wehave just so much vegetables
coming in because of the rain,which is great.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But pump the brakes a little bit, come on no, I, I
agree like I think I think thisyear because, um, basically
where I hunt it's mostly openwoods, but there's a, there's a
few spots that are like it dropsdown, it gets kind of swampy
and then there's like a niceactually the deer usually bed on
like this side hill and itdrops down into like a little
(30:49):
like it's almost like a littlemarshy spot, so like I always
see them down there.
So I was like hey, like allright, well, like when I was out
scouting the other day, I'mlike you know what I want to
check in there?
Wrong move to go check that out.
I did not think that out, Itook, I took one step and I was
like, yep, I knew it, I almostwent down.
(31:09):
I like I literally almost wentdown to like my knee in mud.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I was like, yeah, no, I'm like I'm done yeah, I've
had a buddy lose a boot one time.
There's no getting it out andhe's like you know what?
I'm just chucking this up forloss.
What sucked even more was hebought that muck boot two days
before we went out and he's likeI'm already down a boot.
I gotta go get some more ones.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Like that's just unfortunate yeah, so it's, it's
a uh, it's something that I've,I think I don't know.
I would tell you, frank, thestory.
I know, zach, I don't think youyou've definitely not heard it.
I don't know if I've told onthe podcast, but I was out
(31:49):
scouting last year gun season Ithink I did and it was six day
and you know, I was just walkingaround and there was this like
this little runoff that it went.
There are two fields and thewater just ran off right into
this like little pocket.
But it didn't look like.
It looked kind of like youcould walk on it.
So I'm like all right, cool,like took a giant step and I
(32:13):
just sunk right in boot line.
Now I'm trying to get my likemy foot out and I take another
step and now I'm like reallystuck, both feet are stuck and
I'm I'm by myself and I'm like,oh, my god.
I'm like this is you can't,this can't be happening.
And I'm like now I'm thinkinglike, oh shit, like I'm just
(32:33):
gonna keep sinking and sinkingand sinking, like this is not
good, like, and I finally, likeeventually, I had to take my
feet out of the boots, grab themwith my hand, pull up with my
weight to get back out.
I was drenched mud justeverywhere and I go, okay, yeah,
this is it, I'm just, I'm just,you know, I, I, just, I, I want
(33:00):
to go, like I'm, I'm done,that's it.
And you know, I walked home orwalked back to the truck and and
and drove back and yeah, it'sjust the mud and everything like
that could be a huge pain inthe butt.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I remember a few years ago I was watching this.
I was in a blind and I see thisguy.
He's coming down in his climberand he gets out and I can just
see his orange hat moving aroundand I'm like, what are you
doing?
Like I thought he got hisclimber down already.
I, his orange hat moving aroundand I'm like, what are you
doing?
Like I thought he got hisclimber down already.
I thought he's ready to go.
Apparently he was gettingattacked by bees.
(33:34):
And I'm just sitting therelaughing at this guy and I had
no idea.
I afterwards, like I talked tohim at the game shack and he's
like swelled up.
I was like, what were you doingout there, man?
He looks ridiculous.
He's like I got attacked bybees and he's like all swollen
up.
I'm like, oh no, so they had to.
He had to go to the hospitalfor like I think it was like 15
bee stings or something likethat.
I was like, gosh, that's thatsucks.
But wow, it was funny until Iknew the story.
(33:54):
I was like oh ah, that sucksyeah, that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So one of one of the most popular stories and one of
my favorites from the gardenstate is pre, I think, season
one, when we're when we you know, obviously in the beginning at
connecticut, uh, paul, where hegot up in his his stand and got
attacked by bees and he sent methe picture of what his face
(34:21):
looked like.
And it was.
It was so jacked up like I'llnever, never, like forget that,
like it was, it was absolutelyjust, it was horrifying, it
legit was like horrifying andthat is like a another scary
thing.
You don't worry about it toomuch, but if it does happen,
(34:43):
yeah, it could be very deadly,especially if you're up in a
tree and god forbid, you knowyou fall out so you're not
hooked up, or even if you arehooked up, and you fall and then
you're just dangling with beesor watts, whatever, just
stinging you like it it's.
It's a really brutal situation.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It is yeah yeah, no, that I believe or not.
Last last year that happened tome with my bass boat.
I was getting ready, I went andgot it, hooked it up, put it in
the truck.
Everything was fine, likenothing, right.
I got.
I put all my fishing poles inthe truck, drove to the spot.
I go to take actually I go tobring the bass boat down to the
(35:22):
water, because over therethere's kind of like a little
like like rock ledge and then itdrops into the water as soon as
I move the boat.
They they must have beenunderneath the seat.
I don't know how they didn'tmove the first time.
But all of a sudden I've seenabout like, like, probably a
hundred of them at least itseemed like a hundred just fly
(35:43):
up.
I jump in the truck and I leavethe bass boat.
I could see it, obviously, butI drove all the way down and I'm
just watching them and I'm justlike I remember thinking to
myself holy shit, like I'm gladI wasn't on the water, or like
sitting down in the water whenthey decided to fucking come out
(36:04):
because I would have beenscrewed yeah, that's scary, yep
so I was like yep, I'm done.
So I ended up taking care ofthat situation.
I was like you know what, maybethat was a sign for today.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'm done that's why every time I go to georgia we
hunt and stands and stuff likebox stands there's always some
wasp spray on the inside and onthe outside.
So it's like I always like withmy flashlight I look around my
all right, cool.
But but for the evening I'mjust like I'll throw like a pine
cone at it just to see ifsomething moves.
It's like okay, we're good.
But the second I see a waspthere I'm like nope, I'm, I'm
(36:40):
done, I can't.
I've been stung one too manytimes by a wasp and I can't take
it anymore me too.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I turn into I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I turn into the biggest wimp when it comes to
bees and and wasp.
Like no, I can do snakes, but afreaking bee like seriously of
all things, like I turn into thebiggest wimp it's always the
little things right it is yeahthat's that's it and it's, it's
man they do.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
They do suck like I'll never I don't know what
like usually if I'm, if I'm likeusually cool.
There's this one time I'm atwork and I a wash I don't know
if it's a wash or b flew rightby me normally I don't really
react, but I don't know what itwas this moment I screamed like
a little girl and I startedrunning and like it was crazy,
(37:33):
like it and it's.
I was like what the hell?
Like what is wrong with me?
And like I did it another time.
I was we're out, uh, putting onsome stands, and I don't know
if I just walked through highgrass and there was a bee on
something, but it got stuck inmy shirt.
It stung me, so I didn't knowwhat the hell I'm like.
(37:55):
So I'm screaming, runningthrough the woods, like running
a million miles per hour,because I think something is,
like they're flying at me.
So like I'm just running, goinglike this.
Meanwhile it's stuck in my damnshirt, just stinging the hell
out of me.
I finally stop.
I think I'm good, I'm like allright, like no problem, like all
(38:15):
right, yeah, yeah.
All of a sudden, boom, I getstung again and I'm like.
So I started ripping off myclothes.
Like it was rough.
It really was.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
That's like early early in the season when you're
walking through the woods andyou just run into a spider web
and you just have to do thedance.
Yeah, like every time, you'rejust like oh, you just gotta
start ripping out your, yourclothing.
You're just like god, what theokay?
So I walk again.
You run in the next one, like Iremember taking my son last
year for his first hunting tripand he had his little bear bow
(38:48):
little apprentice.
And we're just walking throughand I know this guy's in his
blind and like I don't feel badbecause it's you know, it's
youth day.
So I'm walking with him.
We're walking through the cornand I see this spider web.
I don't say anything.
I want to see what his reactionwill be.
He hits it and he's just likehi, and just reads at that, just
has like the mean mug facewhere he's like.
(39:08):
He's just like this is stupiddead.
Like it was just so funny.
I laughed.
The guy turned and looked at me.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I was like I'm sorry, like I know I ruined your hunt,
but come on, man, it was funnyfor me so one of the worst
things about early season andit's gotta be way worse for you,
but when you're walking in themiddle of night and you get- all
those spider webs andeverything like that.
You look, I imagine if youdidn't have, if you didn't know
(39:34):
somebody that was watching youand they're just watching you
just start freaking out and it'slike people are like what the
hell is wrong with that person?
He needs, he needs a psyche bow.
That's what he needs.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, you hear me out of nowhere.
Be like yeah, I saw that he'slike oh sure, that'd be great.
I love those moments.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Boys.
I mean I think we'll go there.
I think that was a greatmid-season wrap-up.
The next time everyone hears us.
it will definitely.
I think we're going to haveeveryone where we'll go over our
bows arrow setups, broadheadswhich everyone knows what Frank
and I are running for the mostpart with broadheads Saddle
(40:17):
setup and the states that we'regoing to be hunting and
everything like that.
Hopefully, we'll have an ideaof the big bucks that we are
going to be to be chasing andeverything like that, but I'm
really looking forward to that.
We're we're not too far away,frank.
Yet again, thank you forletting me steal tonight's
hosting of the Garden StateOutdoorsman.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I mean it's yours anyway, kind of.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
It felt good being back to hosting everyone.
I just want to.
I missed my first ever episodein five years.
I went 200 and I think 30 bythe time that one drops of not
missing a single episode,obviously of the state
outdoorsman, because I hosted 95of them, but it was um, it was
(41:09):
tough, like I was like, oh man,like it felt weird knowing that
frank and scotch were onrecording and I was like, uh,
but you know what?
frank did a great job thanksreal happy, um, you know, with
frank and what he's doing.
He's definitely come out of ofhis shell and every episode he
gets better and better andbetter.
Zach, we are like we saidearlier.
(41:30):
We're pumped to have you.
If you guys are not followinghim or following either of these
two, make sure you guys gocheck them out.
You know, zach, echoes of theHunt has some great stories.
If you got any animals bucks,deer, whatever it it is send it
to them.
We'll have a story out for you,kind of like that old school um
(41:51):
magazines that you, that youback in the day.
If anyone who's young, who'slistening to that.
You may not know what that is,but go ask your family members
andyou know they, they will tell
you the good old stories about,about reading the magazines and
things like that.
But everyone, like I said, wehave the hunting competition.
(42:12):
We are 90% sure that we'll bedoing our bow shoot this year.
I know we're a little behind.
Things have just beenabsolutely wild and also, with
this weather it's veryunpredictable.
But we are going to try to todo something here late in august
.
Um, you know, and besides that,your season's right around the
corner.
Make sure you guys all get outthere and you know, get your
(42:34):
work in and get those huntingchores and don't wait for the
last second like some of us here.
And you know, we'll, we'll,we'll, see you guys next time.
Boys, any any last words zachyou got anything.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
No, man, just once again, I appreciate the
opportunity that y'all are y'allthrew at me earlier this year
and looking forward toeverything that we're gonna, you
know, go through, and justlooking forward to it yeah, no,
I mean same here.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Like like mike was saying you know season's coming,
I'm pumped.
I actually hit over a thousandfollowers, so that was a big
achievement for broadside ambushaccount.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
So I appreciate everybody.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Thank you, I appreciate everybody who's
following me and keeping up withmy journey.
I um, I'll actually be tomorrow.
I'll be shooting out of mysaddle with the bow.
I haven't done that yet, so Ihave the day off.
So I figured I'd take advantageof it and get out in the yard
and take a few shots and, youknow, get ready for bow season
(43:31):
coming up.
Boys, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Heck, yeah, yeah, hell, yeah, all right guys,
we'll see you guys next time.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
All right, we'll see you guys next time, hope you
guys enjoyed this episode.
Welcome back to the Garden State Outdoors and
Podcast presented by Boone.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ducks Hunting you know, and that's why you're,
you're um, you're tagline.
Like you know, jcl knownperfect.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You don't know what that mountain's gonna bring.
You don't know what thatmountain's gonna bring.
I accidentally drifted my canoebetween a sow and a cub and she
like charged and like hit likethe back of the canoe.
His head hit the ground beforehis ass did.
Begging and crying to go withmy grandfather, go with my
father on these deer drives.
(00:30):
You know, the last trip over Ishot a great Cape Buffalo with
my bow charging through thegrass, and then the whooping.
And then you hear.
Welcome to the Garden StateOutdoors and Podcast.
I am your host, Frank Mastica.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm your co-host, Mike Neytre.
And today we've got Remember.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Zach, that was in the hunt, that's right, oh.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Frank screwed it up.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
My bad, Zach, but Zach, hey, you're our newest
team member.
We're all excited to have youon.
You sound perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Perfect, right there.
Yeah it's right there Don'tmove.
No, right, I'll tell you, everysingle time we do a show and we
have new team members joining,somehow we always screw up the
(01:27):
intro.
I will say it's easier for me,so I'm kind of happy where I'm
usually not the one screwing itup, right?
But you know, it is always andand wait until we get like
probably the big update, likeright before season starts, when
(01:48):
we get literally everybody on,we officially have four new,
brand new team members.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We may have one or two more joining, which we'll
just with with timing andeverything like that, but we're
gonna have anywhere between fourto six new new members uh on on
this, on this podcast, all atonce and we're gonna have to get
the uh the intro correct.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
We're gonna have to do an intro over an intro.
But that's awesome, man, like I, just I just want to take a
second and just say, like it'sawesome to see how far boondocks
hunting has come.
You know, mike, you've done anincredible job.
You've built an incredible teamwith everybody.
Again, like I appreciateeverything you've done for me as
(02:39):
well and I'm just like I'm I'mvery stoked for this season
coming up and I I honestly Ithink we're going to slay it.
This year.
We got some some hard, you know, some hard heavy hitters coming
on that joined the team and I'mlooking forward to it, man yeah
, man, same here.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I appreciate the opportunity that you've reached
out to me and put me on yourpodcast and then, more
importantly, reached back outand offered me a spot on the
team.
Man, it's a huge opportunityfor myself and it's been a fun
ride since we started.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Man, I really appreciate it yeah, no, I mean,
I mean I I appreciate you guyscoming on and you know, um,
we're always and I always telleveryone like we're always
looking to grow every singleyear um, you know, the quality
qualifications for for us,really the the most important
thing, you know, when we talk toall the guys and everything
like that and ladies, um, youknow, was really, you know we're
(03:34):
really a brotherhood of familyand everything like that.
So that's like the mostimportant thing for for us when,
uh, you know me squatch and uhfrank here sat down and you know
, talked to all the new uhmembers and everything like that
and same thing moving forward,you know it's something that is
going to be, I think, the mostimportant thing for us.
And I mean you know I don'twant to toot our own horn here
(03:56):
too much, but I mean I imagineZach can tell you like look at
how many different group chatsyou've been thrown in already,
like Instagram stuff stuff Likeyou
know we have.
We have our, ladies andgentlemen, we do have our
hunting um, our boondockshunting, archery, uh, tournament
coming up and basically youknow, if you guys don't know
(04:18):
cause we've kind of kept thattight lid for the last two years
, um, you know, is we we run,run a a tournament.
It goes the whole entire yearand each animal has a point
system.
There's bonuses for for eachanimal and everything like that
and it's unlimited, like it'llstart probably september 1st and
(04:39):
probably go to february 1st andyou, if you hunt in six states,
you get to tag as long as it'slegal in the state that you're
hunting.
It is illegal in our, in ourcompetition.
So yet again it puts the peopleat a big advantage of if they
travel a lot or they have astate, like New Jersey, that has
unlimited does or seven bucktags.
(05:01):
Now we haven't had seven buckskilled in the in the tournament
or anything like that.
But, um, you know, we've hadsome guys put some some hammers
down frank and, uh, brad frombuckeye brothers outdoors they
are the defending champs.
Brad is the two-time defendingchamp.
He won the first year when wedid solos um.
(05:22):
So now this year I think we'regoing to be doing duos again or
maybe even doing trios.
We'll see how many people join.
So if anyone out there isinterested in joining, we are,
we're, we're looking, we'retaking um, we're accepting it.
It's 30 buy-in.
Um.
The only thing that we do ask,and why I haven't really made it
public, is because I trustbasically everybody in in that
(05:44):
group.
So, like, moving forward, we'regoing to have a 10 point
deduction if you wound an animaland you do not find it or you
you do not recover an animal.
Now I'm not worried about itreally because every guy in
there is pretty honest andtruthful and we kind of already
let each other know when we havebad shots or we wound a deer
(06:06):
and anything like that.
But I and I hope no one takesoffenses I can't personally
vouch for you know, some randomperson comes and joins and
everything like that.
So that's why we really haven't.
But, um, as we grow andeverything like that.
And this is another fun,exciting thing for us to do and
I eventually like it'seventually going to be like a
war award show, like so the gamedinner.
I want.
I eventually like it'seventually going to be like a
war award show, like so the gamedinner.
(06:26):
I want to eventually make itlike everyone who participated
they're going to come and youknow we'll introduce the person
with the biggest buck or youknow, and do all these cool
things just to help build, uh,the community more and more and
more.
So we're really looking forwardto uh forward with that and if
anyone wants to join, like Isaid, yeah, you know, you're
more than welcome.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, no, definitely.
And you know the one thing,cause last year was my first
year joining, so I didn't reallyknow what to expect.
But I mean all the people inthere that we have right now and
actually it's it's growing.
As we actually speak, thephones are probably blowing up,
more people want to join, butit's definitely like it's
(07:08):
growing.
As we actually speak, thephones are probably blowing up
more people on the join.
But um, it's definitely likeit's fun, it's a friendly
competition and you know, thisyear, you know, like I said,
whether we do teams again or ortrios, like it's, it's just a
blast, it's all about just goingout there having fun.
Like you know, I did make a badshot on one last year, but I'm,
you know, hoping not to repeatthat this year.
So you know, we'll just seewhat happens and you know, like
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I said, it's just best of luckto everybody and I'm looking
forward to it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, and as a newcomer for this year, it's
such a unique opportunity toactually be able to network with
everybody here and just get toknow everybody on a personal
level and I think that's themost important thing and then
actually just building thatbrotherhood, like you were
saying, mike, and it's justsomething that I think a lot of
people that are kind ofskeptical when it comes to
(07:55):
things like this honestly, Ijust jumped right into it and
said, yeah, I'm down, I'm doingit and you know what, in the
past 24 hours, I've met so manycool people and the
opportunities out there to justnetwork.
It's just a blessing.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So I encourage you guys to join, like far out and I
think you know a lot of the thepeople's big worries, and even
my way I remember the first yearlike I was so in my head and
everything like that.
But you know, yes, it does puta little bit of a pressure,
especially when we did the team,when it was single, like no one
really I don't think felt thepressure, but when we did the
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teams because, like you, seeyour teammate doing well, but
then also that for me that is amotivation and that pushes you
to just be better and you know,to go out there and give it your
all.
But everyone's very welcoming,everyone, especially once the
season kicks off, once the firstpicture comes in then it's,
it's literally, it is game onbut everyone is so happy for
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each other and it really doesn'tmatter, you know what you shoot
, or anything like that.
Like it doesn't matter if it's asmall doe or anything like that
, a small buck, like listen,everyone just congratulations,
congrats, like hell.
Yeah, like you know what I mean, and it it also just helps
build, like if you're somebodywho's not confident or and stuff
like that like it does helpbuild confidence because
(09:14):
everyone is pretty like vocal ofjust being like there's no
really bashing in and I won't,and I won't even allow it.
This is something that I havefull control over, you know, I
mean, I mean I'm not.
You know we're not really goingto allow bashing, because how
many times do we say, like youknow, on our shows, like, hey,
this is we want, like, yeah, ahundred percent, let me, let me
repost it, let me, you know, dothis.
(09:36):
And you know we're going tocelebrate the fact that you got
a deer down.
It doesn't matter the size, oranything like that.
So, um, it's a pretty goodgroup of guys.
We're really looking excited.
(09:56):
We're really excited for yearthree.
Um, it's, it's.
It's definitely going to be fun.
It's, it's.
It makes for a good time and itmakes hunting season also a
little little better because,like, who doesn't have a little
friendly competition?
And you know it's we.
We got to beat brad.
Brad can't win three times youknow, that that can't happen.
So, um, you know, and for anyonewho's wondering, it's not only
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deer, so it is bear, it iscoyotes, it's um, it is turkey.
Um, I know, new jersey, here welost our fall, our fall um,
turkey, but it is bear, it iscoyotes, it is turkey.
I know, in New Jersey, here welost our fall turkey, but it is
elk, and it is moose too as well.
I am thinking about adding,like, maybe boar or something
like that, just in case if weget anybody or any other animals
.
As we go on, we're probablygoing to add, you know, animals
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and stuff like that.
But and everything, like I said,has a bonus.
So I think, once you like fromthere, for instance, I think
once you get to 100, 100 pounds,which is whatever, every 50
pounds is an extra point, youknow, and so like, and and every
, yeah, so, like we've we've hadsome big bears shot and
everything like that, and it'sgiven some people a pretty big,
(11:06):
you know, point spread.
We also do have like the 200pound club for deer.
So I think that's even an extrafive or 10 points if you shoot,
and I think we've had so farone buck be killed and that gave
somebody a lot of points, andalso for deer too, they have the
antler point.
So it's five points for a deer,and if it's a buck you get that
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five points for deer, and thenyou get how many antler points,
and then if you hit a certainweight you get another bonus
somebody even with one deer canget a huge bonus, and you know
same thing with bear andeverything like that.
So it's just pretty fun.
You know, I'm really, reallylooking forward to it.
But boys, why don't we?
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It's summertime, it is, we arenot that far away.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I'm sorry that I'm taking over.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, no, go for it, brother, go for it.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
This one.
You know I'm just.
I can't believe it's alreadywhat, july 17th yeah.
This season is really not thatfar away.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's crazy.
I, a lot of people, only havelike a month and a half to get
going, and that's how it is downhere in the border of North
Carolina and Virginia.
It's like like today I was outthere in the woods I saw three
doge's take off.
I was like it's so close.
I'm just like, oh, so close.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm just like, oh, it got me amped, like I just can't
wait yeah, I mean I just putout like my first set of cameras
, I think like a week, week anda half ago, like mike's like hey
man, you gotta get out there.
Mccall shit.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I know I was like dude, fucking july already, like
it just flew by, like I can'tbelieve it, man yeah, I had one
of those seasons last year whereI was able to get eight and
like if I could repeat thatevery year, to where I just put
food on the table.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Like yeah, I'll be ecstatic it's um, it's, uh, it's
uh.
And I I do it every year.
I'm like, all right, by julyI'm gonna get all my hunting
majority of my hunting choresdone cameras out, minerals out
like everything.
I'm so I can coast in july,enjoy vacation and not have to
(13:11):
worry um.
Now I'm like, all right, can Iget everything done by the end
of july, so maybe august.
All I have to do is glass deerand not be in the woods like and
and the weather.
You know, zach, I don't knowwhat it's like really for.
For you, I imagine it'sprobably kind of typically the
same, but it's very hot thissummer.
But it's very know what it'slike really for you, I imagine
it's probably kind of typicallythe same, but it's very hot this
summer, it's very humid andit's very wet.
(13:31):
We're getting all these bignasty storms.
I do want to take a second andwant our thoughts and prayers
are out there for, first of all,I want everyone affected by the
floods and everything like thatdown in Texas and all the other
states and New Jersey as well,but also for the the bow, the
archers down in, I think, southJersey that were struck by
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lightning and and everythinglike that.
So I know that was.
That happened yesterday, july16th.
So I thought in.
Prayers are with you guys, butit's, it's one of those things
that I was thought and prayersare with you guys, but it's,
it's one of those things that Iwas.
My bow got messed up.
So, everybody, yeah, I'm randommy hoist, my baby, my main bow.
(14:16):
I opened up the the case.
I don't know, somehow it gotloose in the truck and was
rolling around or whatever in myboat case, but my strings were
completely like in one spot,just like it looked like a mouse
did eat it, like it definitelydoes.
I didn't find any poop.
(14:36):
I don't even know how thatwould even be possible.
Um, so I'm about to get my hoitbow restrung.
Um, thank god, I do have thebackup bow, the brand new
matthews that I that I won fromthe pursuit live crew that's
actually sitting right overthere.
Um, I'm gonna get that all setup.
So I'll be carrying two bowsthis year.
But yesterday, after thatdebacle, I was like, all right,
(14:59):
let me head to the woods, let me.
One of my cell cameras hasn'tsent me a picture.
I don't know if the storm moved, um, move something, or you
know what I mean, or tree fell,or you know what I mean.
So I wanted to go out there andI'm walking out and just the
cloud just got black and I waslike, yeah, no I was like let me
turn around right right now.
(15:20):
And I booked it right back tothe truck and I was like I'm
going home I'm you are notwinning.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You are not winning.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
No no, not at all, Anybody who knows Mike.
One thing he does not do isthunderstorms, lightning,
anything.
No, he's done.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I will literally hunt or do anything in any condition
.
I have no issues Like I'vehunted in blizzards and all
these things like torrentialdownpour, like I've hunted in
blizzards and all these thingslike torrential downpour.
The minute I hear or seelightning or thunder, I am gone.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
There's nothing but paranoia on me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'll be in the tree constantly refreshing my phone
to see if there's a lightningalert because, like I, just I
don't mess with it and it's notlike it's just the one thing
that if I would say I was scaredof, like anything besides the
deep dark ocean.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
um, it is definitely, definitely lightning is is my
number one thing and, and reallyfor good, for good reason,
honestly yeah, no, absolutelyyeah, especially after what
happened yesterday, like itmakes total sense because a
freak accident can happen,especially like in texas with
that flooding you just neverknow.
And yeah for hunters that dohunt in the wadis and something
(16:34):
like.
That's where a lot of bucks gocruising through, like sometimes
, man, if it's just too dry youjust gotta get out of there, and
it just makes sense.
You know it's not worth it yeah, so zach.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
One thing I want to touch on, because yet again, we
don't get to experience thatmuch I think frank may be able
to, because I think in westjersey we do have a little more
of a copperhead and timberrattlesnake problem, but you
actually encountered arattlesnake today.
So like what, what's that?
Like because you're more souththan us, like how crazy is that?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
or honestly, so it's not that crazy to like run
across them.
So here in um virginia there'scane breaks and they're they're
beautiful snakes.
Um, I just just happened to gocheck one of my cameras because
the same thing.
I haven't been getting anythingon it in the last couple days
and they'll like randomly sendme something.
I just had to go switch out thebatteries and I thought that
was the trick.
I got back to my truck stillnothing, so I'm just gonna go
(17:26):
back out there tomorrow to dealwith it.
But I went to go put the uh ratgetters out and all of a sudden
I just see this long, straightstick and it's fat, and I see
the head and I just see the tail.
I'm like, oh, that's a, that'sa huge snake, and I just backed
up a little bit and I looked atit and it curled up.
I just pulled out my phone andtook a video of it, as you can
(17:46):
see like it was like just goingnuts.
But yeah, I think what theworst part was.
About five minutes later I'mwalking right back in that path
and I know where he was becauseI leaned a stick on the tree and
he was gone.
I'm like, well, at least he has,at least he has at least he has
a rattle to tell me if I'mclose by.
So yeah, um, but usually thecopperheads are the, the bigger,
(18:07):
biggest culprit around here,like, but the good news is about
copperheads they buy you.
It's just gonna be very, verypainful, but a rattlesnake man
it's you gotta go getlacerations and up and down your
wherever you get bit and it'sjust painful.
So yeah but yeah I would havebeen out of there bro well, it's
all I usually would take like apistol with me or a shotgun,
but me hunting out a militaryinstallation.
(18:27):
It's such a good time I usuallywould take like a pistol with
me or a shotgun, but me huntingout of military installations,
like I can't just be walkingaround with a pistol.
I mean, who's this guy?
It's just you know, don't worryabout me, I'm just just hunting
, no big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But yeah, so that was one of those things.
One of the things do you wearsnake boots or or stuff like
that?
Like I know how?
Like, because I know you said,you know you do come across and
yet again, you know thatvirginia, north north carolina
area too, where you're going tobe hunting, and everything like
that, like by the time huntingseason comes along, is it?
(18:56):
Is it that common as thetemperature, I know, as the
temperature goes down andeverything I know?
Summer is one thing, but areyou somebody who who wears the
boots, or by that time, usuallyit's, it's kind of good honestly
, I never wear snake boots.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Uh, that's just my, my thing.
I guess I'm not not too worriedabout it.
Um, there's a lot of guys thatdo wear them.
It just helps keep liketriggers and ticks off of their
legs and stuff.
But yeah, for me, I just, Idon't know like, I just I'm not
very fearful of snakes.
If I see them I'm an adult I'mjust gonna go around them.
I'm not like my son who likesto grab snakes and it's just
like I'll put it down.
(19:31):
But it's just, god, I don'tknow.
Yeah, it's a, it's a handful,but yeah, that's just, I don't
know, that's just my, not me.
I'm not a big fan of likewearing boots all the way up to
my knees, pretty much so I justrock my Columbia's and yeah.
I'll wear my Columbia's.
I am getting the Osseo one soonand I'm looking forward to that
(19:52):
, so see how those go yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh, nice yeah All right, how, how else?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
you know what.
What's the?
You know some of the preseason,you know stuff you got the
racket are out and everythinglike that.
Uh, how long has the mineralsites been out?
Have you noticed yet the holes?
Dude, I have some giant holesyeah from.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
The bag.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It is insane, yeah I.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
So I just put out the drip my first drip bag today,
because I wanted to.
I wanted to catch the lay ofthe land, um, where I'm hunting
that, and just see if I couldcatch traffic.
Saw a little bit of traffic andthen it just died down because
the heat here is just sounbearable.
So I just said screw it andwent to go put a drip bag out
today.
But I used some Maniac Outdoorsseeds and stuff like that, put
(20:37):
that down and some salt lick outand they have just been getting
smashed, especially near awater source too.
So that's been hooking me up alot, but no target buck yet.
So it's kind of like I don'tknow if they're just cruising,
if they're not in that arearight now, which is fine, um,
but it's just like darn like I'mreally looking forward to find
(20:58):
a target buck this year and justnothing yet.
Usually I have one or two bynow.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So I think it's just, yeah, I'm, I'm in the same boat
.
I mean I had mine out forprobably, I think, like two
weeks, three weeks and, likemike was saying, like some of
the spots I have, because rightnow I got three racket or drip
bags out and the one just ishammer.
I mean the hole is ridiculous.
The other two, I mean they'vebeen touched a little bit but
(21:26):
nothing crazy, because the one Iput on the opposite side of
this farm that I've been huntingbecause I wanted to actually
get to know that side and get toknow it a little better.
But I mean it's mostly, youknow the bear's been on top of
them.
I mean Mike's been seeing thepictures, I've been the cubs.
Now I got mama with two cubs.
(21:46):
I got, you know, a prettydecent, nice-sized bear in there
.
Then there's another group oftwo of them, but I mean it's
just but barely any target bucksthis year, which kind of took
me by surprise.
But I'm not, you know, I'm notnervous just yet.
I've been getting, you know, alot of does, but every now and
(22:09):
then I'll get like a buck justcruising by.
That's, that's pretty decent.
There's one in there that'spretty wide.
He's well past his ears already.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
His brow tines are pretty high already, so I mean,
we'll just see what happens yeah, that's kind of like how I'm
trying to figure everything outright now, like this time last
year, I had two or three.
Never saw them in the season,they just disappeared.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So it's just I guess there's a time right now where
they're just not around yeah, I,I think definitely the humidity
has and the heat is something,because last year was hot but it
wasn't like we had that oneweek really right before I went
to england and scotland.
But besides that, like, I don'tthink last year was anything
(22:52):
crazy and it definitely wasn'tthis way.
I was not much too, and you know, what I noticed is, man, some
of the spots the beans and thecorn already are so high that
one you might not even see them.
And I think, a lot of bucks,you know.
For me, personally speaking,like I just think I have a lot
(23:13):
of bucks that are bedding cotton.
They're just going to be inthere right now they're going to
be in the corn.
I had one nice, real niceshooter, but I haven't seen him
now in maybe like two weeks.
But I think part of it is likethe waters have gotten high.
He's probably gone out into oneof the fields just to, you know
, be by the beans and everythinglike that.
I think once we get closer toseason and those especially,
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once the beans dry and burnt,you know they're done and
everything like that, and theystart to die, he'll be back.
You know they'll be back wherethey, where they're going to
need to be.
But we still.
We don't have much time, but westill have plenty of.
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's just this weird thing, Ithink, to find bucks anybody out
there, like if you stillhaven't found one, we have
plenty of time for that.
(23:58):
We may not have plenty of timefor chores but we definitely
have plenty of time to to stillfind, um, you know, some shooter
bucks and everything like that.
But it's a real different yearand I think it's going to be.
Last year we went with thedrought.
This year there's going to be alot of rain, I think there's
going to be a bit more deerkilled earlier and bigger deer
(24:24):
killed earlier.
I think a lot of people lastyear struggled with the fact
they didn't have natural uhwater sources and weren't able
to put in water sources, so itfelt really slow last year.
I think this year it's going tobe for almost everyone.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's going to be a lot quicker and everything like
that, just because of there's,there's, there's rain, then
there's plenty of rain andvegetation I think, with all the
rain that's coming in, uh, justdefinitely going to keep the
vegetation green longer, andthat's where they're going to
get a lot of their water from aswell.
So that's that's good.
But it's just also kind of likeman that that takes away from
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one of my creeks that I usuallyhunt at, and it's just like
they're probably going to be inthe bean fields or they're
probably gonna be in thecornfields.
So it's like I haven't put alot of tender loving care into
that area just because I knowthey're not really around there.
Um, but I'm just lookingforward to the season.
I just wanted to start already.
My buddy Rodney's got someproperty down about 20 minutes
(25:20):
from here, so we're going tohunt his property.
We're looking forward to that.
So that's in North Carolina andwe're going to have a lot going
on there, so looking forward tothat, oh yeah, I mean I can, we
can go.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It feels like tomorrow the season's going to
start.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Honestly, I wish it was already.
I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
You get like I don't't know, like at this point
, like I'm over the heat, I'mjust so yeah, going outside and
dying, like usually, like I'mbig on working outside and I
don't I don't mind doing itafter work, but right now, with
the humidity, I don't mind thehumidity, right now it's like I
don't want to go for a run.
Right, I literally don't like.
I'm like I don't want to go fora run.
I don literally don't like.
(26:05):
I'm like I don't I don't wantto go.
I don't really want to beoutside.
Um you know I'm looking forwardto that that cooler fall
weather.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Um so yeah, here we don't really get that really
nice cool weather.
It's like, for some reason thisyear it was like all right,
it's spring, it's not hot, nothot, there's no in between, and
it's just boom, instantly hot.
Like there was no acclimationfor us here so it kind of sucked
.
And then when the fall hitsit's like hot, hot, hot, hot,
(26:37):
instantly cold.
So it's kind of like man, but Idon't know that was.
This is like my second or mythird year hunting in virginia,
so last year it was kind of nice.
This year I'm really hopingit's gonna be one of those
seasons where it's like it stayscool and it's just like oh man,
I just wear flannel and that'sabout it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
But that'd be great yeah, yeah, right you know it go
, I'm like go ahead.
No, no I was gonna say, I thinkfor us, like, since our season
starts here in september, youknow, I mean again, it's not
that far away um, I think we'regonna get hammered by mosquitoes
this year, yeah, like last year.
(27:16):
I mean, it wasn't that bad but,I know, like this year, like I
don't know about you, mike, butlike where I've been scouting, I
mean all of a sudden like I'mdying and I have my thermos, so
I have everything.
I mean it's you know it, youknow how it is.
It just I'm just like damn, andthe ticks forget about it.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh my god, they're so bad this year yeah, they are,
it's unbearable.
Yeah, I went turkey huntingthis year and I was just on my
hands and knees trying to crawlthrough this like little ditch
to get to this turkey and I popup and I am just covered in
ticks.
I'm like what is going?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
on Yep.
I took a Bianca and I went outglassing a brand-new piece a
couple weeks ago before we wenton vacation.
Great, saw some no likeshooters, maybe, like, maybe one
.
But I took one step out and Ijust wanted to get a little.
We're in the truck and I waslike, all right, let me just.
(28:10):
I'm gonna run like 50 yards upthis, you know a little.
Even the grass wasn't too highor anything like that, and I'm
in my shorts and sandals withsocks on them.
You know, that's, that's how Irock it um and all of a sudden I
get back to the truck.
I think I had probably like 15ticks on me from a quick like 50
yard walk with not even in likehigh grass or or anything like
(28:34):
that, just all on my feet andeverything like that.
Um, they're, yeah, they're,they're brutal.
Um, the mosquitoes are going tobe bad and for me, it's going
to depend on where I'm hunting.
Yeah, west in the swamp.
Yeah, it's going to be brutal.
I think I'm going to be able toget away with it.
Um, you know more south onthose, you know on all those ag
fields and everything like thatyeah but I do have a lot of
(28:57):
water also in the area and itdoes.
The river does overflow, so itdoes flood a lot.
So that is something that isgoing to be new for me.
To challenge of last year yetagain, I hunted that piece for
the first time and saw it in adrought.
What are we going to look likethis year with now much more
pockets of water?
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They're complete ponds andeverything like that.
They were just so dried up thatdeer were using it like crazy.
Now what are they going to donow to navigate?
I don't know how deep it getsor anything like that.
So what are they going to do tonavigate around that?
What?
How is it going to change?
You know their, their huntingum, their lanes and their, their
(29:39):
travel corridors and everythinglike that.
So I'm really looking forwardto that.
You know, I hope the raindefinitely maybe dies down a
little bit in august likeespecially like the second half
of august.
I don't want it to to rainnearly as much.
We still need a little bit ofrain, but nothing like what
we've been getting.
This and everything like thatis just it's too much it really
(30:04):
is especially down too.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
It seemed like it was just like a week of rain and
then like two days of sun andthen another week of rain, and
you're like, can we just catch alittle bit of a break?
My garden is just going bananaswith how much water it's
getting, Like the cucumbers arejust getting kind of like woody
and it's just like ah, but wehave just so much vegetables
coming in because of the rain,which is great.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But pump the brakes a little bit, come on no, I, I
agree like I think I think thisyear because, um, basically
where I hunt it's mostly openwoods, but there's a, there's a
few spots that are like it dropsdown, it gets kind of swampy
and then there's like a niceactually the deer usually bed on
like this side hill and itdrops down into like a little
(30:49):
like it's almost like a littlemarshy spot, so like I always
see them down there.
So I was like hey, like allright, well, like when I was out
scouting the other day, I'mlike you know what I want to
check in there?
Wrong move to go check that out.
I did not think that out, Itook, I took one step and I was
like, yep, I knew it, I almostwent down.
(31:09):
I like I literally almost wentdown to like my knee in mud.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I was like, yeah, no, I'm like I'm done yeah, I've
had a buddy lose a boot one time.
There's no getting it out andhe's like you know what?
I'm just chucking this up forloss.
What sucked even more was hebought that muck boot two days
before we went out and he's likeI'm already down a boot.
I gotta go get some more ones.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Like that's just unfortunate yeah, so it's, it's
a uh, it's something that I've,I think I don't know.
I would tell you, frank, thestory.
I know, zach, I don't think youyou've definitely not heard it.
I don't know if I've told onthe podcast, but I was out
(31:49):
scouting last year gun season Ithink I did and it was six day
and you know, I was just walkingaround and there was this like
this little runoff that it went.
There are two fields and thewater just ran off right into
this like little pocket.
But it didn't look like.
It looked kind of like youcould walk on it.
So I'm like all right, cool,like took a giant step and I
(32:13):
just sunk right in boot line.
Now I'm trying to get my likemy foot out and I take another
step and now I'm like reallystuck, both feet are stuck and
I'm I'm by myself and I'm like,oh, my god.
I'm like this is you can't,this can't be happening.
And I'm like now I'm thinkinglike, oh shit, like I'm just
(32:33):
gonna keep sinking and sinkingand sinking, like this is not
good, like, and I finally, likeeventually, I had to take my
feet out of the boots, grab themwith my hand, pull up with my
weight to get back out.
I was drenched mud justeverywhere and I go, okay, yeah,
this is it, I'm just, I'm just,you know, I, I, just, I, I want
(33:00):
to go, like I'm, I'm done,that's it.
And you know, I walked home orwalked back to the truck and and
and drove back and yeah, it'sjust the mud and everything like
that could be a huge pain inthe butt.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I remember a few years ago I was watching this.
I was in a blind and I see thisguy.
He's coming down in his climberand he gets out and I can just
see his orange hat moving aroundand I'm like, what are you
doing?
Like I thought he got hisclimber down already.
I, his orange hat moving aroundand I'm like, what are you
doing?
Like I thought he got hisclimber down already.
I thought he's ready to go.
Apparently he was gettingattacked by bees.
(33:34):
And I'm just sitting therelaughing at this guy and I had
no idea.
I afterwards, like I talked tohim at the game shack and he's
like swelled up.
I was like, what were you doingout there, man?
He looks ridiculous.
He's like I got attacked bybees and he's like all swollen
up.
I'm like, oh no, so they had to.
He had to go to the hospitalfor like I think it was like 15
bee stings or something likethat.
I was like, gosh, that's thatsucks.
But wow, it was funny until Iknew the story.
(33:54):
I was like oh ah, that sucksyeah, that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So one of one of the most popular stories and one of
my favorites from the gardenstate is pre, I think, season
one, when we're when we you know, obviously in the beginning at
connecticut, uh, paul, where hegot up in his his stand and got
attacked by bees and he sent methe picture of what his face
(34:21):
looked like.
And it was.
It was so jacked up like I'llnever, never, like forget that,
like it was, it was absolutelyjust, it was horrifying, it
legit was like horrifying andthat is like a another scary
thing.
You don't worry about it toomuch, but if it does happen,
(34:43):
yeah, it could be very deadly,especially if you're up in a
tree and god forbid, you knowyou fall out so you're not
hooked up, or even if you arehooked up, and you fall and then
you're just dangling with beesor watts, whatever, just
stinging you like it it's.
It's a really brutal situation.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
It is yeah yeah, no, that I believe or not.
Last last year that happened tome with my bass boat.
I was getting ready, I went andgot it, hooked it up, put it in
the truck.
Everything was fine, likenothing, right.
I got.
I put all my fishing poles inthe truck, drove to the spot.
I go to take actually I go tobring the bass boat down to the
(35:22):
water, because over therethere's kind of like a little
like like rock ledge and then itdrops into the water as soon as
I move the boat.
They they must have beenunderneath the seat.
I don't know how they didn'tmove the first time.
But all of a sudden I've seenabout like, like, probably a
hundred of them at least itseemed like a hundred just fly
(35:43):
up.
I jump in the truck and I leavethe bass boat.
I could see it, obviously, butI drove all the way down and I'm
just watching them and I'm justlike I remember thinking to
myself holy shit, like I'm gladI wasn't on the water, or like
sitting down in the water whenthey decided to fucking come out
(36:04):
because I would have beenscrewed yeah, that's scary, yep
so I was like yep, I'm done.
So I ended up taking care ofthat situation.
I was like you know what, maybethat was a sign for today.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'm done that's why every time I go to georgia we
hunt and stands and stuff likebox stands there's always some
wasp spray on the inside and onthe outside.
So it's like I always like withmy flashlight I look around my
all right, cool.
But but for the evening I'mjust like I'll throw like a pine
cone at it just to see ifsomething moves.
It's like okay, we're good.
But the second I see a waspthere I'm like nope, I'm, I'm
(36:40):
done, I can't.
I've been stung one too manytimes by a wasp and I can't take
it anymore me too.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I turn into I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I turn into the biggest wimp when it comes to
bees and and wasp.
Like no, I can do snakes, but afreaking bee like seriously of
all things, like I turn into thebiggest wimp it's always the
little things right it is yeahthat's that's it and it's, it's
man they do.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
They do suck like I'll never I don't know what
like usually if I'm, if I'm likeusually cool.
There's this one time I'm atwork and I a wash I don't know
if it's a wash or b flew rightby me normally I don't really
react, but I don't know what itwas this moment I screamed like
a little girl and I startedrunning and like it was crazy,
(37:33):
like it and it's.
I was like what the hell?
Like what is wrong with me?
And like I did it another time.
I was we're out, uh, putting onsome stands, and I don't know
if I just walked through highgrass and there was a bee on
something, but it got stuck inmy shirt.
It stung me, so I didn't knowwhat the hell I'm like.
(37:55):
So I'm screaming, runningthrough the woods, like running
a million miles per hour,because I think something is,
like they're flying at me.
So like I'm just running, goinglike this.
Meanwhile it's stuck in my damnshirt, just stinging the hell
out of me.
I finally stop.
I think I'm good, I'm like allright, like no problem, like all
(38:15):
right, yeah, yeah.
All of a sudden, boom, I getstung again and I'm like.
So I started ripping off myclothes.
Like it was rough.
It really was.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
That's like early early in the season when you're
walking through the woods andyou just run into a spider web
and you just have to do thedance.
Yeah, like every time, you'rejust like oh, you just gotta
start ripping out your, yourclothing.
You're just like god, what theokay?
So I walk again.
You run in the next one, like Iremember taking my son last
year for his first hunting tripand he had his little bear bow
(38:48):
little apprentice.
And we're just walking throughand I know this guy's in his
blind and like I don't feel badbecause it's you know, it's
youth day.
So I'm walking with him.
We're walking through the cornand I see this spider web.
I don't say anything.
I want to see what his reactionwill be.
He hits it and he's just likehi, and just reads at that, just
has like the mean mug facewhere he's like.
(39:08):
He's just like this is stupiddead.
Like it was just so funny.
I laughed.
The guy turned and looked at me.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I was like I'm sorry, like I know I ruined your hunt,
but come on, man, it was funnyfor me so one of the worst
things about early season andit's gotta be way worse for you,
but when you're walking in themiddle of night and you get- all
those spider webs andeverything like that.
You look, I imagine if youdidn't have, if you didn't know
(39:34):
somebody that was watching youand they're just watching you
just start freaking out and it'slike people are like what the
hell is wrong with that person?
He needs, he needs a psyche bow.
That's what he needs.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, you hear me out of nowhere.
Be like yeah, I saw that he'slike oh sure, that'd be great.
I love those moments.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Boys.
I mean I think we'll go there.
I think that was a greatmid-season wrap-up.
The next time everyone hears us.
it will definitely.
I think we're going to haveeveryone where we'll go over our
bows arrow setups, broadheadswhich everyone knows what Frank
and I are running for the mostpart with broadheads Saddle
(40:17):
setup and the states that we'regoing to be hunting and
everything like that.
Hopefully, we'll have an ideaof the big bucks that we are
going to be to be chasing andeverything like that, but I'm
really looking forward to that.
We're we're not too far away,frank.
Yet again, thank you forletting me steal tonight's
hosting of the Garden StateOutdoorsman.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I mean it's yours anyway, kind of.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
It felt good being back to hosting everyone.
I just want to.
I missed my first ever episodein five years.
I went 200 and I think 30 bythe time that one drops of not
missing a single episode,obviously of the state
outdoorsman, because I hosted 95of them, but it was um, it was
(41:09):
tough, like I was like, oh man,like it felt weird knowing that
frank and scotch were onrecording and I was like, uh,
but you know what?
frank did a great job thanksreal happy, um, you know, with
frank and what he's doing.
He's definitely come out of ofhis shell and every episode he
gets better and better andbetter.
Zach, we are like we saidearlier.
(41:30):
We're pumped to have you.
If you guys are not followinghim or following either of these
two, make sure you guys gocheck them out.
You know, zach, echoes of theHunt has some great stories.
If you got any animals bucks,deer, whatever it it is send it
to them.
We'll have a story out for you,kind of like that old school um
(41:51):
magazines that you, that youback in the day.
If anyone who's young, who'slistening to that.
You may not know what that is,but go ask your family members
andyou know they, they will tell
you the good old stories about,about reading the magazines and
things like that.
But everyone, like I said, wehave the hunting competition.
(42:12):
We are 90% sure that we'll bedoing our bow shoot this year.
I know we're a little behind.
Things have just beenabsolutely wild and also, with
this weather it's veryunpredictable.
But we are going to try to todo something here late in august
.
Um, you know, and besides that,your season's right around the
corner.
Make sure you guys all get outthere and you know, get your
(42:34):
work in and get those huntingchores and don't wait for the
last second like some of us here.
And you know, we'll, we'll,we'll, see you guys next time.
Boys, any any last words zachyou got anything.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
No, man, just once again, I appreciate the
opportunity that y'all are y'allthrew at me earlier this year
and looking forward toeverything that we're gonna, you
know, go through, and justlooking forward to it yeah, no,
I mean same here.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Like like mike was saying you know season's coming,
I'm pumped.
I actually hit over a thousandfollowers, so that was a big
achievement for broadside ambushaccount.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
So I appreciate everybody.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Thank you, I appreciate everybody who's
following me and keeping up withmy journey.
I um, I'll actually be tomorrow.
I'll be shooting out of mysaddle with the bow.
I haven't done that yet, so Ihave the day off.
So I figured I'd take advantageof it and get out in the yard
and take a few shots and, youknow, get ready for bow season
(43:31):
coming up.
Boys, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Heck, yeah, yeah, hell, yeah, all right guys,
we'll see you guys next time.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
All right, we'll see you guys next time, hope you
guys enjoyed this episode.
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