December 1, 2022 • 36 mins
2022 WPRA World Champion Breakaway Roper Martha Angelone joins the podcast to discuss her journey into breakaway roping, her hope for the event in the future, and her Virginia manners.
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This is the Gauge with host ChanceConrad. Are you freaking serious? It's
Conrado. This is the Gauge andI am Chance Gnado. On this episode
of the podcast, we have gotthe twenty twenty two number one breakaway roper
going into the national finals Rodeo MarthaAngeline. She is a proper Virginian and
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a bartender. Not anymore, butit's a good episode. Check it out.
Riley said, you were rolling throughwith your truck and trailer. Do
you find some of the park backthere? Well, I'm in the wrong
parking lot, but it's okay.I'm over there behind that building. I
don't even know what's over there.No, with that RV place, camper
spot, where was it? Idon't know. It's literally like in this
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little alley right here. Really,I don't know. Did you lock your
trailer? Yeah, we did.It's probably a good Yeah. Here,
Amanda would kill me. She lookslike she's a little worried about getting stabbed.
Oh yeah, you guys might haveseen some different things in your time.
Yeah, man, good, greatgrand You know they drink that doctor
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pepper before we get going, youknow, they're drinking talk at the same
time. Yeah, take it withyou and make a little shank so you
don't get sapped on your way out. I did notice there was some real
creepy dude out there, like raidingthe trash can like a scrapper or something.
Yeah, there's some shady guys righthere. I don't even know.
He had some weird truck that look. I came from Indonesia. I remember
I walked out. I walked outone night and just this random guy moving
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along on his bicycle at like,I'm like, okay, they have a
little trailer on it. You seethat guy guy with the trailer on his
bike, he'd have a trailer onit. Yeah. You see those guys
rolling through stockyards sometimes too, onthe bike with a little trailer. Very
creepy over there. There's a lotof sides creepy after dark. Oh yeah,
there's a lot of stuff I wonderabout whenever I go over there.
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He walked through the alley on theback to go back to your trailer.
Yeah no thanks, Yeah, that'llunmann you real quick. You see some
of those dudes. Yeah, wellthanks for coming. Um. The cool
thing about doing a podcast of theseI don't really know anything about you,
so we could, Oh, wecould learn some stuff. You could inform
me call me sir, Yeah,I did where you're Oh yeah, you're
from Virginia. She told me that'swhere that comes from. Right, Yeah,
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it's yes, sir, it's yes, yes, ma'am. Your grandma's
your memo, I bet right.Sometimes really depends on which one it was,
which grandma You got one grandma andone made up grandma name. Oh
yeah, like dads was always grandmaand then memom was mom's. So that's
how we always did it. Yeah, all right, So if you have
kids and make it to grandma hood, what are you gonna be? Are
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you gonna be grandma? I don'teven want to do all that, So
I don't want to even think aboutthat. You don't want to go through
all that? No, I don'treally think I want to do all that,
like the whole thing, or justlike a certain part. Kids.
That's too early to talk about allthat kind of stuff. How old are
you? Twenty seven? I know, I'm kind of old. Biology like
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you're running away from your prime,Like it's too early to have kids.
And you're like, yeah, exactly, science is amazing. Yeah that's true.
Yeah, I guess I mean Foulonjust had a kid. She was
forty. Yeah, totally fine,that's right back, you'd be fine.
Yeah. I mean my mom waslike forty before she had any of us,
So it's okay. Really yeah,my mom's oh wow, your mom's
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grandma age. Yeah, we don'thave to tell her that, but yeah,
she right kill me really, Yeah, doesn't know my address. I'll
be sick. She's not out therein that parking lot, right. No,
she's not for fighting. She's theone that you should be worried about.
Yeah, she could be the onethat pops out behind the dumpster.
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Yeah. Never know. Well Idon't there you have it. What well,
dude, tell me about yourself alittle bit. Uh. She sent
me something you did with JJ theother day, and I know that you're
sitting number one in the world breakawayand that's pretty awesome. Yes, probably
feels good. Yeah, call me, sir. I'm sorry. I'm from
Virginia. I lived there the wholetime I was in high school and everything,
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and then I went to school inOklahoma actually for three years, and
then I ended up at Weatherford Collegeand I lived in Weatherford for about two
years after that, and then Imoved over to Stephenville and I actually ran
a place off at JJ and themand stuff, and I've been at that
place for like three and a halfyears now, and I've kind of just
stayed because of all the jackpots andthe rodeos and stuff around here. That's
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what everybody does. Yeah, itsucked into Stephenville. You never leave.
Yeah, you kind of have tostay. I mean, I like Weatherford
better, but it's hard to findplaces unless you're trying to buy a place
or something over there, and Idon't have the money for that yet.
Yeah. Well, and every hourthat goes by it gets more expensive.
Oh yeah, it's stupid how muchlay in costs Now, it doesn't make
sense. It's all fake. Ohyeah, somebody decided that. So hold
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on. Do you go everywhere?And it doesn't matter how old they are,
younger than you, older than you, right around the same age.
He's calm, sir. Yeah,everybody, Oh yeah, call him sir.
You didn't call him sir? Why. I wonder why that is?
Because I haven't had to answer aquestion to him yet. I guess,
what if someone's just talking to younormally, is it? Is it?
Yes, sir? What if youknow their name you were calling by their
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name? Uh? Sometimes they usuallywhen I'm mad, though, really and
what if you're drinking? Do youstill say sir when you're drinking? Oh?
Yeah, really? Oh yeah,I mean I still call my sister
ma'am sometimes really yeah, I mean, and the other things I call her
we don't have to talk about outloud. So that's all right. Sister
things, Yes, sister things,love hate relationship, that's siblings. But
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so what, I guess what madeyou want to pursue a career in breakaway
rope? And I know your teamrope and how I do all the ranchie
shit. Yeah, I don't know. I've always, like, I mean,
I ran barrels and poles and tiedegoats and I even cut some in
high school and everything. And uh, I've always just wanted rope. Um.
I've always just had, I don'tknow what you would call, more
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of a passion towards rope and andeverything. And that was just something that
fit my lifestyle a lot more andstuff. And even when we didn't have
the pro rodeos and everything, Istill went to all the jackpots and the
amateur rodeos during the week and everythingbecause like even I mean, I'm at
the UPRA Finals this weekend and stuff, and I was at the Texas Circuit
Finals last week, and our roundsat the Texas Circuit Finals paid like nineteen
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hundred around to win it. Andlike last night, my sister won the
round at Dallas and she won twentynine hundred, So even like the amateur
finals paid just as good as ourcircuit finals and stuff too. So I've
still been doing all that and everything, and I feel like with how the
breakaway's grown and stuff, that Itook the right path. Like I was
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never the barrel racer, like Ihad a nice horse and everything. I
just I didn't love it, LikeI just kind of did it for the
all around and stuff and high school. And I've only done it once or
twice since, and it's usually atw pre finals to try to win the
all around. But I just eversince I was a little kid, I've
always wanted to rope. We neverthought it'd be in the NFR or anything
like that. So now that it'skind of a reality, I know it's
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not exactly where we want it tobe yet, but it's more of a
reality that we can make a livingin a career out of our hobby as
we used to have to call it, because rope and the breakaway didn't usually
pay anything for us a couple ofyears ago. And then now, I
mean, you can go to aroping every month and some of them will
pay ten, fifteen thousand, someof them will pay thirty thousand. So
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just like I won the women's finalsin May, and I won close to
seventy thousand over a three span orthree day span right there, and stuff
like that, we just never knewwhat happened, and now it is,
so it's really cool for us.Yeah, I mean, and it just
it almost like happened overnight because youhave people like Jackie and Jjube got like
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twenty twenty five women's World championships thatno one really even knew what that meant.
Oh yeah, and now it's it'sin the American it's oh yeah,
everything, and it is kind ofamazing. Well, and it's crazy because
like all of us, we wouldalways try for those world titles and stuff.
But I mean, now how thosewpr A world titles that Jackie and
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JJ and all of them have.I mean, Jackie's won the Pro Rodeo
world too, but we all usedto always go to those ropes and always
go to those jackpots and stuff andtry to win that at the end of
the year. But it's like nobodyever got the credit that they needed to
for that at the end of theyear, for winning all those because I
mean, JJ's won eighteen world titles, you know what I mean. And
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it back then to us, itwas just as big as winning the world.
Like maybe I get to this year, you know what I mean,
and it was the same meaning andsame feeling to us, but nobody really
knew about it yet. So nowit's cool that we get to rope at
all the pro rodeos and rope ofI mean all the guys and everything and
get to go to all these bigrodeos and actually have the chance to showcase
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our talents and everything. So yeah, well, I mean it gives you
a future. Yeah, because allthose women that you talk about, they
had to do other things, focuson other things, whereas like a barrel
racer maybe he didn't have to dothat. And yeah, I mean you're
talking money that you would never thinkthat a breakaway roper could win. Yeah,
and the tension I mean, forme, I never thought it would
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be as popular. Yeah, well, and that's what I mean. Whenever
my dad was still alive and everything, he always told me, if I
ever wanted to make the NFR,I'd have to be more serious about my
barrel racing. And I'm like,Dad, I don't want to do that,
Like I mean, I want tomake the NFR one day, but
hopefully they'll have the breakaway in thereone day, you know what I mean.
And Sarah, my little sister,and me always talked about it with
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him that like we really didn't careto run barrels and stuff, that we
always hope that it be where it'sat today. And it's crazy, like
my sister doesn't go usually rodeo andstuff, but like within the past month,
she's one close to probably I don'tknow, maybe even forty thou thirty
thousand. In the past month,she won fifteen thousand at hand sheees she
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won almost ten thousand at just theAbilene Special, just a good little jackpot.
And then you want Joe Beaver's ropein two and she wanted three of
the biggest ropes right there in arow the past month and she hardly even
goes. So it shows not onlythe girls that are going to the pro
rodeos, but like girls that arejust going to the jackpots, how big
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they are. Like Sarah didn't realizethat Shane Hansey's roping was that big of
a payout and that big of arope. And at the end of the
day, she's like, I wantfifteen thousand. I was like, I
told you, like you just didn'tlisten to me earlier. Like there's a
lot of those jackpots and opportunities forus now too, and we're glad that
everybody's stepping up for all those Yeah, what did you were you guys ever
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thinking about regular jobs, like likea nurse or a teacher, or like
a traditional feminine job if you wantto call it that. Yeah, well,
like I went to school for physicaltherapy stuff. I didn't end up
finishing out everything because I had todo like an internship and everything, and
you had to do it where itwas like nine to five and go in
and I mean, I know Ihad to do that to be able to
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actually have that job. But Ihad a job I bartended and weather for
for five years. I worked ata seafood place and then I worked at
a sushi place too. And Imade such good money. I mean i'd
make two fifty to three hundred juston a weeknight, like a normal weeknight,
and i'd work three four, fivedays a week if I could.
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And I was getting buy back thenwith that, and I didn't really honestly
care to because I still got torodeo and stuff. So my mom's not
the proudest with me about all that. But why because she wanted us to
grow up and have jobs and everything. And now me and say are just
roping now. So so is yourmom's disappointed? I don't know if she's
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disappointed us. She's proud of us, But I know she definitely knew that
we were trying to go to collegeto get a degree that we're going to
use, and I doubt either ofus ever use it. So that's like
most degrees. Now, I know, it's like you can have all that
and still be a bartender yet becauseoh yeah, probably still make more money
than a teacher. Yeah, it'scrazy, how I mean, a bartender
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too is really good money. Ialways thought, like, you go in,
you have to work like six sevenhours and walk out of cash at
then a night, and nobody usuallyknows how much you make, you know,
unless they leave it on a creditcard tip or something like they're that
Yeah. Yeah, well from bartenderto breakaway or open. Oh yeah,
it's a nice little story. Ohyeah, that's what I did forever.
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A lot of the people that atthe last place I bartended at, a
lot of them became like family andstuff too. Like there's like six or
eight of them that are just fineout for the NFR this year. There
was a bunch of one that flewout last year and everything, so it's
kind of like I had have anextra family now from it too. Really.
It's kind of cool kind of bar. Was it like a country western
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type bar? Well? Were youin character the whole time? Are we?
No? I was not in characterthe whole time. We kind of
got to wear whatever we wanted towear it there. Sometimes we just had
to wear the normal stuff you'd haveto wear at work and stuff, and
then you got to dress up onthe weekends and everything. It was just
the last one I worked at,though, was a sushi place. I
mean they like a pool table andstuff in there and everything. You know,
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it was kind of there was likethe chill side, and then it
was like the sushi side too.So in Weatherford it was called it was
called saki. It's right next tothe liquor store. Yeah, over there.
So that's that's interesting. That's afun little come up story. So
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I'm just wondering because I'm really fixatedon the fact that you call everything and
everybody a sir. It's really politicallycorrect. But so even like your regular
bar flies, it was yeah,gave me a cures. Oh yeah,
I mean unless I had to callhim an asshole that day, but most
of the time it was sir,ma'am. Was it sure you're an asshole?
Or just you're an asshole? You'rean asshole? That's how that happened.
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Well do you I mean, doyou think that you'll just do this
forever until I can't? Probably?I mean I've always been one that's always
roped. And like I had didan interview the other day and a lady
asked me, like, what's mytimeline on when do I think that I'm
gonna be done with ropen? AndI was like, I don't know,
I guess like I don't even wantto say it or something, but like
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when I can't anymore, you knowwhat I mean? When I'm too crippled
to be able to open anymore.But I mean now with the opportunities and
how much it's grown, I meanyou could still look at JJ and LD
and all them. I mean they'restill kicking our ass and their their age,
you know what I means, AndI want to be them one day.
So I feel like I'm gonna tryto keep doing it until I physically
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can't. Yeah yeah, what uh? I mean what else do you do?
That's about it? I mean i'dtrain horses and stuff and sell horses
and everything like that, but otherthan that, I'm pretty boring. I
don't really I don't really have muchof a life whenever it comes like goes
past the rodeo. Yeah, reallythough, right, I mean, if
you're gonna rodeo and make enough moneyto survive and thrive, do it at
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the highest level. I mean that'syour life. Yeah, you don't do
other stuff? Yeah, I meanif you want to go be like the
bar fly like people are, ordo other things, you're not focusing on
what exactly we're here for. AndI feel like it's just more distractions to
do all that stuff. I knowa lot of girls, especially in college,
right now though, I'll do that, and I have nothing against it.
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I mean I was that girl incollege and stuff too, but where
I'm at in my life, I'mpretty boring. I just usually rope during
the day and either go to ajack pot at night or just hang out
or do something around the house orsomething like that. So yeah, it's
probably the right path I mean,but I mean, you're sitting number one
in the world, which I don'tknow if you want to call it a
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hot seat, but it's it's definitelysome pressure that you want to maintain that,
and you have to have the ifyou look at all the world champions
in every event, I mean,you have to have the right mindset coming
in that high to maintain it.Yes, there, and that's what we've
been trying to focus on and stuff. And I've been practicing and everything for
the finals and starting and like nextmonth, I'll probably set up a lot
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of the our place, like howthe finals will be set up and everything,
and start making actual runs and stuff. But I've been riding everything from
my younger horses to my good horsesand stuff, practicing for it and everything,
and that's been my main focus rightnow. Like we've had a lot
of finals and a lot of goodjackpots come up and everything, but in
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the end, that's our main goalfor the end of the year. So
yeah, it's a good goal.Yes, there it's like the only goal
really. Yeah, that's all alwaysour goals starting off every year. So
we always hope that I've always hopedthat I would was gonna be in this
position, and I'm blessed that Iam this year and stuff, and I
would kind of and I didn't losemy good horse during the season, but
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he had colic surgery and at theend of August and London's mom in London
have been taken care of him forme down in Contula and I can start
riding him again at the beginning ofNovember. So I'm really looking forward to
that. Like I got a lotof other good horses and stuff, but
none of them compared to him.So he's such a winner and it makes
it so easy for me to winthat I'm ready to get back on him.
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Yeah, yeah, because that's thethat's the one like X factor that
changes everything. And I watched thatthing you did with JJ and she had
said something, wouldn't you say somethingabout how great of a roper you were,
but you never had the right horse, or you had too slow of
a horse. And that was thething that changed it for you maybe or
got you into a position where youcould place more. Yeah, whenever I
came out to college, I reallydidn't have the horses for out here.
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And then I bought a horse wheneverI got to college, and she was
really good, but she was reallytight, like she wasn't one that she'd
either win the rodeo on or you'dmiss to be really fast. And then
I kind of two years ago,after fort Worth, I took actually took
a colt to fort Worth that Iwas riding for somebody else and was going
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to end up selling. And Iwon third on him at fort Worth and
I ended up buying him after that, And how was his first rodeo,
And he was the horse that Iwon the finals off of the first year,
and I ended up winning the averageand how it was the reserve champ
that year, and I kind ofrodeoed on him and another little mayre that
I trained all last year, andthey were good, but they weren't exactly
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what I needed, but I couldget by and win enough on him the
whole time. And this year,after the women's finals, I won the
Women's finals on Jesse James and itwas Tanner Green's horse, and I ended
up buying him off of him,and then a couple of weeks later he
let me run some on Legend,and that's the horse that got hurt earlier
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this year, and I don't know. At first, I couldn't rope off
of him. I was getting frustrated, and Tanner sat down one day with
me in the practice pen and wegot to work in on some stuff and
then whenever it clicked, it waslike it was hard for that horse to
get beat anywhere because he made everythingso easy for me that it was so
easy for me to rope that wheneverwe were at a road. I mean
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when I backed in the box,I didn't have any thought in my mind
that I wasn't going to win it, you know, And I liked having
that confidence that I had on him. And Jesse's good. Jesse's a badass
too, but I just don't havethe exact same confidence on him because he's
still kind of green, and he'sstill young. I mean he's just seven,
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and before I had him, Idon't really think they took him to
a lot of rodeos, or hehasn't been hauled as much as Legend has.
Like Tanner took Legend the last probablyseven years to all the rodeos.
I mean he's been to all therodeos. I was at this summer and
everything, and it was kind ofnice having a horse that's been there,
done that, and that is thecaliber of a horse that he is,
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because it just made my job somuch easier this summer. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean if people don't really knowthe sport or breakaway right, like
don't know it and understand it realwell, they may not realize like in
that one and a half to threesecond time period, how many variables there
are and which up against and youknow, as far as making a clean,
smooth and fast run, because youcan't do anything without those three components,
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right. Oh yeah, heyl Son, If you're not wearing rock and
roll Denham, then you ain't nocowboy. I'm Dale Brisbee, the greatest
boy rider ever to live, andI'm known for keeping it ninety and I
keep it ninety because I'm wearing Rockand Roll Denham with reflex technology. They
give me the flexibility I need toget that knee up. My biggest problem
is I get an earache because Iget my knee up so high. I
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kick myself in the year. That'swhy I'm the greatest of all time.
It's because of rock and roll.Denim all Son, get you some what
are like what are some of thevariables that you face and like coming from
being an intermediate or amateur if youwant to call it that, to being
a true professional performance you know,athlete. Yeah, that's what rodeo is,
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at least to me. And youknow, what are some of those
variables, and like in the differencesbetween a horse that's not quite a seasoned
as well and one that is borderlineautomatic. Yeah, I feel like how
even between my two good my twobest ones that I feel like it's Jesse
and Legend, And even between thetwo of them, I feel like Legends
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a lot faster and he scores alot better than Jesse does. And not
saying that Jesse really truly lacks inthose areas, but Legends just ten times
better than him. Like I knowevery single time that he's gonna be as
fast as he possibly can. WheneverI dropped my hand, like at Cheyenne,
I knew I had it. Iknew I had a couple of calves
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that freaking hauled ass, and likeit wasn't even a thought in the back
of my mind that I was stillwasn't gonna make a good run like the
one I think it was the semifinalsround. I ended up winning it on
him, And I knew that calfwas not that great. I knew he
ducked off to the right and thenas soon as you get to him,
he would duck under you and goback to the left, and legend just
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made my job so much easier rightthere. And I feel like with girls
a lot of day, a lotof times nowadays, there's so many girls
that rope so good, and alot of girls that have a lot of
potential to be the best roper inthe world, but they're not mounted kind
of like I was three years ago. I mean, I had the rope
and ability, I feel like,but I didn't have the horsepower underneath me
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like I had, Like even lastyear, A lot of times I had
that one shot and I was eithergoing to win the rodeo or when first
through fifth, or I wasn't ina place. And now I think this
year. Like when I went outthere this summer, I was focusing on
how many times can I place thissummer like place at all the rodeos and
you'll end up hiring and hiring thestandings, And it turned out to be
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true. And like I just wentand focused on catching my calfe every time
and making my run, and alot of times I ended up winning the
rodeo. But it was because ofthe horsepower I had versus not really my
rope and ability, but it havingthe better horses make sure rope and so
much easier that you don't I don'thardly even have to do my job that
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great whenever you got a good oneunder you. So yeah, yeah,
I mean and tie down. That'slike the entire thing. There's so many
guys who rope better than anybody outthere like that you don't even know them.
Yeah, and you're getting a practicespend with them, and they can
help you and they can tell youto do everything. You're like, dude,
just guy ever figured it out youhad the money for the horse,
he would go and win the world. Oh yeah, But to have the
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access to him, oh yeah.And that's where like you can watch like
we weren't up at the same timeas the guys at a lot of them.
But whenever we were up and yougot to watch some of the tie
down slack, you'd be like,holy cow, like you've never got like
we've always watched the boys at thefinals and stuff, but I've never got
to see him rope at all therodeos during the summer and everything. And
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it's mind blowing how much a goodhorse changes it for the tie down too,
because like in the Breakaway, wecan have a bad calf and still
make them good, you know whatI mean. But with the guys,
it's the draws so critical, andwhenever they got those great horses, it
just makes it so much better.And like watching a lot of the rodeos
this summer, I was impressed bya lot of the guy's horses out there.
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So yeah, yeah, I meanthe caliber horses nowadays. But it's
everything. Yeah, it's crazy,yeah, oh yeah, because those go
together, but it's it changes everything. But I guess if you're going to
give, like give somebody advice andtell them what to do if they want
to really achieve something and be thebest bartender, yeah, how do they
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become the best bartender, don't giveup and keep practicing. Uh like wherever
I came from, Like if you'vesaid roping back there, they kind of
looked at you like you're crazy,Oh bartender, See you were so focused
on roping. I said, howdo you be the best bartender? Didn't
even catch it. I mean becauseTie is thinking about bartending, and well
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you're pro. I mean it's prettyit's pretty easy. You just gotta be
good at talking crap and doing goodat your job. Like I loved bartending.
I felt like that was something thatI was really good at too.
And um, I don't know,being fast on your feet was another thing.
Like whenever you're bartending, if youI learned that if you brought somebody
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another drink because they look like theyneeded one, they weren't gonna bitch at
you for doing it. They'd probablythank you. They might say I didn't
want that one, but they're stillgonna drink it. So she is so
serious, like she literally just answeredapparently was a horrible joke and answered it
like serious, like ready to go, Like, well this is how you
do it. Yeah, I meanyou're a competitor. Even when you talk,
you're like I'm not gonna fall forthat joke. Well, I mean,
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I didn't know if you're being seriousabout it such just answered it.
No, I'm being serious about it. You're sitting number one in the world,
you know. Well, hey,that's cool. You got ice in
your veins, like whether it's bartending. Thank you, yes, sir,
I do, thank you, mybad, it's not. No, it's
actual a good thing. Yeah.Well, I think you'll have a lot
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of success. You have the rightmindset and yeah, and your veins,
so you know, it should begood. It'll be fun to watch and
hopefully you get your your gold buckle. Yeah. I hope so too,
you will. I'm gonna try todo my job out there and just go
make my run on each calf andsee where it plays out. I'd love
to win the average in the world. That would be such a cool feeling
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at the end of the week.But we'll see how it goes. That's
my plan, though, Yeah,we'll see if I I think that's probably
a good plan. Yeah, it'spretty decent. I thought, yeah,
yeah, but I don't know.You seem to have everything put together the
right way, so that doesn't seemake you get too distracted. No,
I haven't fallen to any vegas traps, and now I don't think I'm gonna
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do that. I mean maybe afterif I win the world, I might
fall into some of those vegas trapsfor a day or two. But you
got to celebrate if you do that, you do, yeah, you do,
because technically you've already started for thenext year anyway. So yes,
they're got to enjoy it. Oh, yes, sir, Yes, sir.
That's the only reason I the truethe only reason I want you to
leave us, because then no one'sgonna call me sir. Oh my gosh,
that is just really hard to hear. Do I need do I need
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to pull take the sir away fromyou for once? Does anybody ever called
me sir any place that you know? Huh? Yes, no, there,
Okay, that's good. Better,I feel more comfortable. Everybody feel
better about that. Then I won'tsay sir. I'll just say yes.
You're gonna remember this and be likeyou remember the day that I gave up
the words sir. Change your wholelife, your whole taught. My mom
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will not allowed to say sir anymore. I'm sorry, you tell her if
she has a problem. I'm notallowed to say, sir, god damage,
it gave me too many manners.Yeah, so wrong, because you're
not even gonna give her grandchildren.She fucked up. Yeah, she keeps
asking for you're Sarah, who's gonnago first? And I'm like, it
better be her. It ain't gonnabe me, ain't gonna be you.
Well, which one has the seriousclosest to marriage? Yeah, boyfriend,
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we're probably about the same on that. So I don't know. Is that
nothing, No, No, it'sit's there, But I don't I don't
know. We don't talk about thatkind of stuff. That's that's okay.
You say, I'm pretty serious,but that's a little bit too serious for
me. When we talked about allthat stuff about having yeah, about having
babies and getting married and all thatkind of stuff. I'm only twenty seven,
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man, only twenty seven. It'slike there were people who had,
like, did three tours in themilitary already, and I'd like eight kids.
Yeah. I mean, some peoplewant to be married by the time
they're twenty. I threw that outthe window a long time ago. I
don't think people are really getting marriedthat much anymore. I mean a lot
of them. I try to stayoff the face. It's like engagement season
every time I get one. That'severy year. Yeah, exactly. So
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people are getting married. Yeah,I don't know. It's kind of a
bumm deal for everybody nowadays. Yeah, it happens, ty, what about
your your people circle, it's atotally different world, totally different circle than
hers or mine. They all gettingmarried. It depends not really in the
city, like it's like it depends, but like I know a lot of
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people around my age, they're justnot looking for that, looking to get
married at least this young. Yeah, now once they hit Like I know
some people in their thirties that gotmarried eventually, but most people around my
age are not doing it. Imean not like my best people people were
only living to tell thirty, likea couple hundred years ago. Yeah,
park the kids out quick. Yeahwe're not worried about that. Yeah.
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If there weren't ropings where you couldmake money and stuff that takes, you're
pretty ranching. I guess you'd beranching. You'd have to have kids just
to yeah, lots of them.I'm okay, you'd be in a totally
think about it, you'd be bartending. Nope, quite no way. You'd
be like making bread and shit.Yeah, it'd be a different world not
having to do that. Yeah,it would be hard. I don't want
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to be doing that or changing diapersor any of that kind of stuff.
I'm all right. Do you watchthe eighteen eighty three The Yellowstone Show.
I have watched some of it.I thought it was pretty cool. I
got through like the I've only watchedlike three episodes of it, but I
started it. I liked it alot. Yeah, so, I mean,
but that's a hard way to liveright there. Yeah, I'm okay
that we're in this time and notin that time. Yes, it's a
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little too much, especially when thosegirls lifted up their arms. I was
like, that's a no go.Yeah. I can't think of any other
like period piece TV show where theydidn't shave the girls up, Like that's
the only one I can think ofwhere they grew out the hair. Oh
yeah, I mean you could havebraided it if you wanted to. But
I know, and that you're like, oh, she's a girl's kind of
cute and you're like, oh,I'm out. Yeah, Like you know,
thanks, I understand that that's real, but it's not real in my
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world. Exactly. Well, Idon't have anything else to try to get
out of you. Really, ithas been a really good interview. Thank
you for coming anytime. Thanks forhaving me. Yeah, sir, you
know, do you like people tocall you ma'am? Is that a thing
that you enjoy? I mean sometimesand then sometimes I look at them like
they're crazy. So why are youlooking at me like I'm crazy for saying
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I don't want to be called sir? Okay, yes, yeah, good
job. She follows directions really well, like you're really I could see why
you would be a good bartender anda good akeaway ropers. Well, my
mom used to chase me around witha wooden spoons, so I had to
learn how to follow direct all thespoons. The worst, you know what
the worst thing to get hit withwas was you remember how the belts like
they're all they're different now, butyour dad have like the conchos, like
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silver conchos, those real awful belts. One of those sons of bitches would
change your whole outlook on like,yeah, I got that a few times,
did you. Oh yeah, Iam my mouth washed it. I
was soap. That was that wasthe worst. That was worse than me.
Oh yeah, it didn't really changehow I talked. But because you
don't lose at times, you don'tlose that soap taste. It lingers.
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Yeah, for a couple of days, I feel like, yeah, not
literally. You look like you're likefifteen, are you? So you're probably
like if my parents hit me,they would be in jail. It's a
different mindset. No, I don'tthink a man's going to hit you.
No, yeah, maybe that splitreins hurt. Now. Her little brother,
he's a little hellion. He's likethree. This is my boyfriend's sister
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by the way, Yeah, andher their little brother, what is he
three or four? Almost four?He was roping the other day and telling
us all how to work, toshoot, how to bring up the calves.
He got mad at her other brother, Caleb, because he didn't set
the gate or and he started bringingup the calves without him. He got
a good cussin in the middle ofthe arena the other day. But it's
all right from a three year old. Oh yeah, it was funny.
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I was laughing my butt off.I was like, this is not happening.
All of us are just videoing it. That is pretty funny. Oh
yeah, he said, Hey,next time, why don't you shut that
gate so I don't have to doall the extra work? Man, he
said, just like that. Imean he said it a couple of different
words, but we don't need tosay that. It came out of a
three year old's mouth. Pretty ranchykid. Oh yeah, does he need
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to open his mouth just a littlebit. I don't think you could do
it nowadays? No, probably not. I doubt Rich would stand still for
it. He'd just get out.Oh yeah, he'd run away. Look
at you like, you're stupid.What are you doing? Yeah? I
did try to run away a lot. Oh yeah, I ran I did
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too until dad found me. Thatwas worst, really, ye, and
then it's ten times worse because they'repissed. Oh yeah, yeah, you're
not walking right for a few days. Yeah. I have to explain to
people what happened. You hadn't makeup that lie at school? So what
so I didn't have to make uphomeschooled? Yeah, that's where the man
came from. You never picked upthe bad habits in public school? No,
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not really. Yeah. Riley washomeschooled too, and she never even
curses. I don't know about that. I went to school with her homeschooled.
Ye, yes, ma'am, Iwas homeschooled. I wasn't. Yes,
I was homeschooled. I know youbetter, oh so much better.
Look at it. See that's theonly reason we've kept it going, because
we're just training. It's like ahorse repetition. Okay, I'm working on
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not to be so polite. Yeah, why why you just can't be?
I was trying to be nice.Man. I don't know you. You
don't know me any better now,but you do know I don't like sir.
I know you don't like polite people. So next time I'm coming assertive
people. I like assertive people.Okay, I do like a sir people
because people are overly polite might notbe real, not that nice. No,
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I usually never get called nice.No more white. Really, I
mean I've just said it a fewtimes. Yeah. Jeffrey Dahmer seemed polite
too until he was bashing you inthe head. Did you watch that show?
Oh? Yeah, how polite washe? I don't trust polite people.
A little aggressive little don't worry.I'm not him not the best chef.
Yeah I'm not. I'm not badat all. He also said he
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wasn't that Okay, well, I'mdefinitely not that. I can promise you
that we've all heard that from aserial killer. Stop trying to learn your
traps. I'm not a serial killer, I promise you. Yeah, okay,
good, Well, moment she's havingand then suddenly seemed like a serial
killer. Do you know how itgoes? I don't know how. This
is just like flips so easy.Yeah, this is how podcasts go.
(34:52):
Yeah, it is all right,what have you been on another podcasts?
No, this is my first try. Really, I learned that people don't
like when you're nice. Yeah.Will you take that into some of those
other podcasts, see how those go. Okay, I'll work on You're gonna
be You're gonna be an expert,Okay, I'll try my best. Yeah,
and then you'll be a world championand you'll be great at interviews and
like your whole world's gonna change frombeing right here. Yeah, and then
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I'll never say ma'am or sir againyou shouldn't. And you're getting close to
thirty, so why not older people? I say it to old ladies,
older women. Oh I do,yeah, I do. Yeah, But
I'm not going to call someone who'sbasically my same age, Sir be weird.
I don't blame you, but Imean I call everybody that. Yeah,
(35:36):
I'll work on it though time.Okay, all right, I'm glad
we had this talk. Yeah,me too. I'm glad we can resolve
so much. He'll he'll take yourcredit card for the therapy session. Okay,
Deale. I know you want somemoney, so I know there's something
on it. Get that. There'sthree percent fee too for arguing. Okay,
and I know it's such a horribleargument too. Well, we're gonna
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let you get on with your day. It is hot out there, and
you got horses in the trailer.Yes. This has been The Gauge,
hosted by me Chance Canardo, producedand edited by our guy Ty Yeager.
Shout out to the executive producers,Dustin Pointer and Cody Denton. Marketing and
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This is the Gauge with host ChanceConrad. Are you freaking serious? It's
Conrado. This is the Gauge andI am Chance Gnado. On this episode
of the podcast, we have gotthe twenty twenty two number one breakaway roper
going into the national finals Rodeo MarthaAngeline. She is a proper Virginian and
(00:29):
a bartender. Not anymore, butit's a good episode. Check it out.
Riley said, you were rolling throughwith your truck and trailer. Do
you find some of the park backthere? Well, I'm in the wrong
parking lot, but it's okay.I'm over there behind that building. I
don't even know what's over there.No, with that RV place, camper
spot, where was it? Idon't know. It's literally like in this
(00:50):
little alley right here. Really,I don't know. Did you lock your
trailer? Yeah, we did.It's probably a good Yeah. Here,
Amanda would kill me. She lookslike she's a little worried about getting stabbed.
Oh yeah, you guys might haveseen some different things in your time.
Yeah, man, good, greatgrand You know they drink that doctor
(01:11):
pepper before we get going, youknow, they're drinking talk at the same
time. Yeah, take it withyou and make a little shank so you
don't get sapped on your way out. I did notice there was some real
creepy dude out there, like raidingthe trash can like a scrapper or something.
Yeah, there's some shady guys righthere. I don't even know.
He had some weird truck that look. I came from Indonesia. I remember
I walked out. I walked outone night and just this random guy moving
(01:36):
along on his bicycle at like,I'm like, okay, they have a
little trailer on it. You seethat guy guy with the trailer on his
bike, he'd have a trailer onit. Yeah. You see those guys
rolling through stockyards sometimes too, onthe bike with a little trailer. Very
creepy over there. There's a lotof sides creepy after dark. Oh yeah,
there's a lot of stuff I wonderabout whenever I go over there.
(01:57):
He walked through the alley on theback to go back to your trailer.
Yeah no thanks, Yeah, that'llunmann you real quick. You see some
of those dudes. Yeah, wellthanks for coming. Um. The cool
thing about doing a podcast of theseI don't really know anything about you,
so we could, Oh, wecould learn some stuff. You could inform
me call me sir, Yeah,I did where you're Oh yeah, you're
from Virginia. She told me that'swhere that comes from. Right, Yeah,
(02:21):
it's yes, sir, it's yes, yes, ma'am. Your grandma's
your memo, I bet right.Sometimes really depends on which one it was,
which grandma You got one grandma andone made up grandma name. Oh
yeah, like dads was always grandmaand then memom was mom's. So that's
how we always did it. Yeah, all right, So if you have
kids and make it to grandma hood, what are you gonna be? Are
(02:43):
you gonna be grandma? I don'teven want to do all that, So
I don't want to even think aboutthat. You don't want to go through
all that? No, I don'treally think I want to do all that,
like the whole thing, or justlike a certain part. Kids.
That's too early to talk about allthat kind of stuff. How old are
you? Twenty seven? I know, I'm kind of old. Biology like
(03:05):
you're running away from your prime,Like it's too early to have kids.
And you're like, yeah, exactly, science is amazing. Yeah that's true.
Yeah, I guess I mean Foulonjust had a kid. She was
forty. Yeah, totally fine,that's right back, you'd be fine.
Yeah. I mean my mom waslike forty before she had any of us,
So it's okay. Really yeah,my mom's oh wow, your mom's
(03:25):
grandma age. Yeah, we don'thave to tell her that, but yeah,
she right kill me really, Yeah, doesn't know my address. I'll
be sick. She's not out therein that parking lot, right. No,
she's not for fighting. She's theone that you should be worried about.
Yeah, she could be the onethat pops out behind the dumpster.
(03:46):
Yeah. Never know. Well Idon't there you have it. What well,
dude, tell me about yourself alittle bit. Uh. She sent
me something you did with JJ theother day, and I know that you're
sitting number one in the world breakawayand that's pretty awesome. Yes, probably
feels good. Yeah, call me, sir. I'm sorry. I'm from
Virginia. I lived there the wholetime I was in high school and everything,
(04:08):
and then I went to school inOklahoma actually for three years, and
then I ended up at Weatherford Collegeand I lived in Weatherford for about two
years after that, and then Imoved over to Stephenville and I actually ran
a place off at JJ and themand stuff, and I've been at that
place for like three and a halfyears now, and I've kind of just
stayed because of all the jackpots andthe rodeos and stuff around here. That's
(04:30):
what everybody does. Yeah, itsucked into Stephenville. You never leave.
Yeah, you kind of have tostay. I mean, I like Weatherford
better, but it's hard to findplaces unless you're trying to buy a place
or something over there, and Idon't have the money for that yet.
Yeah. Well, and every hourthat goes by it gets more expensive.
Oh yeah, it's stupid how muchlay in costs Now, it doesn't make
sense. It's all fake. Ohyeah, somebody decided that. So hold
(04:50):
on. Do you go everywhere?And it doesn't matter how old they are,
younger than you, older than you, right around the same age.
He's calm, sir. Yeah,everybody, Oh yeah, call him sir.
You didn't call him sir? Why. I wonder why that is?
Because I haven't had to answer aquestion to him yet. I guess,
what if someone's just talking to younormally, is it? Is it?
Yes, sir? What if youknow their name you were calling by their
(05:10):
name? Uh? Sometimes they usuallywhen I'm mad, though, really and
what if you're drinking? Do youstill say sir when you're drinking? Oh?
Yeah, really? Oh yeah,I mean I still call my sister
ma'am sometimes really yeah, I mean, and the other things I call her
we don't have to talk about outloud. So that's all right. Sister
things, Yes, sister things,love hate relationship, that's siblings. But
(05:31):
so what, I guess what madeyou want to pursue a career in breakaway
rope? And I know your teamrope and how I do all the ranchie
shit. Yeah, I don't know. I've always, like, I mean,
I ran barrels and poles and tiedegoats and I even cut some in
high school and everything. And uh, I've always just wanted rope. Um.
I've always just had, I don'tknow what you would call, more
(05:54):
of a passion towards rope and andeverything. And that was just something that
fit my lifestyle a lot more andstuff. And even when we didn't have
the pro rodeos and everything, Istill went to all the jackpots and the
amateur rodeos during the week and everythingbecause like even I mean, I'm at
the UPRA Finals this weekend and stuff, and I was at the Texas Circuit
Finals last week, and our roundsat the Texas Circuit Finals paid like nineteen
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hundred around to win it. Andlike last night, my sister won the
round at Dallas and she won twentynine hundred, So even like the amateur
finals paid just as good as ourcircuit finals and stuff too. So I've
still been doing all that and everything, and I feel like with how the
breakaway's grown and stuff, that Itook the right path. Like I was
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never the barrel racer, like Ihad a nice horse and everything. I
just I didn't love it, LikeI just kind of did it for the
all around and stuff and high school. And I've only done it once or
twice since, and it's usually atw pre finals to try to win the
all around. But I just eversince I was a little kid, I've
always wanted to rope. We neverthought it'd be in the NFR or anything
like that. So now that it'skind of a reality, I know it's
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not exactly where we want it tobe yet, but it's more of a
reality that we can make a livingin a career out of our hobby as
we used to have to call it, because rope and the breakaway didn't usually
pay anything for us a couple ofyears ago. And then now, I
mean, you can go to aroping every month and some of them will
pay ten, fifteen thousand, someof them will pay thirty thousand. So
(07:23):
just like I won the women's finalsin May, and I won close to
seventy thousand over a three span orthree day span right there, and stuff
like that, we just never knewwhat happened, and now it is,
so it's really cool for us.Yeah, I mean, and it just
it almost like happened overnight because youhave people like Jackie and Jjube got like
(07:44):
twenty twenty five women's World championships thatno one really even knew what that meant.
Oh yeah, and now it's it'sin the American it's oh yeah,
everything, and it is kind ofamazing. Well, and it's crazy because
like all of us, we wouldalways try for those world titles and stuff.
But I mean, now how thosewpr A world titles that Jackie and
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JJ and all of them have.I mean, Jackie's won the Pro Rodeo
world too, but we all usedto always go to those ropes and always
go to those jackpots and stuff andtry to win that at the end of
the year. But it's like nobodyever got the credit that they needed to
for that at the end of theyear, for winning all those because I
mean, JJ's won eighteen world titles, you know what I mean. And
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it back then to us, itwas just as big as winning the world.
Like maybe I get to this year, you know what I mean,
and it was the same meaning andsame feeling to us, but nobody really
knew about it yet. So nowit's cool that we get to rope at
all the pro rodeos and rope ofI mean all the guys and everything and
get to go to all these bigrodeos and actually have the chance to showcase
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our talents and everything. So yeah, well, I mean it gives you
a future. Yeah, because allthose women that you talk about, they
had to do other things, focuson other things, whereas like a barrel
racer maybe he didn't have to dothat. And yeah, I mean you're
talking money that you would never thinkthat a breakaway roper could win. Yeah,
and the tension I mean, forme, I never thought it would
(09:09):
be as popular. Yeah, well, and that's what I mean. Whenever
my dad was still alive and everything, he always told me, if I
ever wanted to make the NFR,I'd have to be more serious about my
barrel racing. And I'm like,Dad, I don't want to do that,
Like I mean, I want tomake the NFR one day, but
hopefully they'll have the breakaway in thereone day, you know what I mean.
And Sarah, my little sister,and me always talked about it with
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him that like we really didn't careto run barrels and stuff, that we
always hope that it be where it'sat today. And it's crazy, like
my sister doesn't go usually rodeo andstuff, but like within the past month,
she's one close to probably I don'tknow, maybe even forty thou thirty
thousand. In the past month,she won fifteen thousand at hand sheees she
(09:52):
won almost ten thousand at just theAbilene Special, just a good little jackpot.
And then you want Joe Beaver's ropein two and she wanted three of
the biggest ropes right there in arow the past month and she hardly even
goes. So it shows not onlythe girls that are going to the pro
rodeos, but like girls that arejust going to the jackpots, how big
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they are. Like Sarah didn't realizethat Shane Hansey's roping was that big of
a payout and that big of arope. And at the end of the
day, she's like, I wantfifteen thousand. I was like, I
told you, like you just didn'tlisten to me earlier. Like there's a
lot of those jackpots and opportunities forus now too, and we're glad that
everybody's stepping up for all those Yeah, what did you were you guys ever
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thinking about regular jobs, like likea nurse or a teacher, or like
a traditional feminine job if you wantto call it that. Yeah, well,
like I went to school for physicaltherapy stuff. I didn't end up
finishing out everything because I had todo like an internship and everything, and
you had to do it where itwas like nine to five and go in
and I mean, I know Ihad to do that to be able to
(10:56):
actually have that job. But Ihad a job I bartended and weather for
for five years. I worked ata seafood place and then I worked at
a sushi place too. And Imade such good money. I mean i'd
make two fifty to three hundred juston a weeknight, like a normal weeknight,
and i'd work three four, fivedays a week if I could.
(11:16):
And I was getting buy back thenwith that, and I didn't really honestly
care to because I still got torodeo and stuff. So my mom's not
the proudest with me about all that. But why because she wanted us to
grow up and have jobs and everything. And now me and say are just
roping now. So so is yourmom's disappointed? I don't know if she's
(11:37):
disappointed us. She's proud of us, But I know she definitely knew that
we were trying to go to collegeto get a degree that we're going to
use, and I doubt either ofus ever use it. So that's like
most degrees. Now, I know, it's like you can have all that
and still be a bartender yet becauseoh yeah, probably still make more money
than a teacher. Yeah, it'scrazy, how I mean, a bartender
(11:58):
too is really good money. Ialways thought, like, you go in,
you have to work like six sevenhours and walk out of cash at
then a night, and nobody usuallyknows how much you make, you know,
unless they leave it on a creditcard tip or something like they're that
Yeah. Yeah, well from bartenderto breakaway or open. Oh yeah,
it's a nice little story. Ohyeah, that's what I did forever.
(12:20):
A lot of the people that atthe last place I bartended at, a
lot of them became like family andstuff too. Like there's like six or
eight of them that are just fineout for the NFR this year. There
was a bunch of one that flewout last year and everything, so it's
kind of like I had have anextra family now from it too. Really.
It's kind of cool kind of bar. Was it like a country western
(12:41):
type bar? Well? Were youin character the whole time? Are we?
No? I was not in characterthe whole time. We kind of
got to wear whatever we wanted towear it there. Sometimes we just had
to wear the normal stuff you'd haveto wear at work and stuff, and
then you got to dress up onthe weekends and everything. It was just
the last one I worked at,though, was a sushi place. I
mean they like a pool table andstuff in there and everything. You know,
(13:01):
it was kind of there was likethe chill side, and then it
was like the sushi side too.So in Weatherford it was called it was
called saki. It's right next tothe liquor store. Yeah, over there.
So that's that's interesting. That's afun little come up story. So
(13:22):
I'm just wondering because I'm really fixatedon the fact that you call everything and
everybody a sir. It's really politicallycorrect. But so even like your regular
bar flies, it was yeah,gave me a cures. Oh yeah,
I mean unless I had to callhim an asshole that day, but most
of the time it was sir,ma'am. Was it sure you're an asshole?
Or just you're an asshole? You'rean asshole? That's how that happened.
(13:43):
Well do you I mean, doyou think that you'll just do this
forever until I can't? Probably?I mean I've always been one that's always
roped. And like I had didan interview the other day and a lady
asked me, like, what's mytimeline on when do I think that I'm
gonna be done with ropen? AndI was like, I don't know,
I guess like I don't even wantto say it or something, but like
(14:07):
when I can't anymore, you knowwhat I mean? When I'm too crippled
to be able to open anymore.But I mean now with the opportunities and
how much it's grown, I meanyou could still look at JJ and LD
and all them. I mean they'restill kicking our ass and their their age,
you know what I means, AndI want to be them one day.
So I feel like I'm gonna tryto keep doing it until I physically
(14:31):
can't. Yeah yeah, what uh? I mean what else do you do?
That's about it? I mean i'dtrain horses and stuff and sell horses
and everything like that, but otherthan that, I'm pretty boring. I
don't really I don't really have muchof a life whenever it comes like goes
past the rodeo. Yeah, reallythough, right, I mean, if
you're gonna rodeo and make enough moneyto survive and thrive, do it at
(14:54):
the highest level. I mean that'syour life. Yeah, you don't do
other stuff? Yeah, I meanif you want to go be like the
bar fly like people are, ordo other things, you're not focusing on
what exactly we're here for. AndI feel like it's just more distractions to
do all that stuff. I knowa lot of girls, especially in college,
right now though, I'll do that, and I have nothing against it.
(15:16):
I mean I was that girl incollege and stuff too, but where
I'm at in my life, I'mpretty boring. I just usually rope during
the day and either go to ajack pot at night or just hang out
or do something around the house orsomething like that. So yeah, it's
probably the right path I mean,but I mean, you're sitting number one
in the world, which I don'tknow if you want to call it a
(15:39):
hot seat, but it's it's definitelysome pressure that you want to maintain that,
and you have to have the ifyou look at all the world champions
in every event, I mean,you have to have the right mindset coming
in that high to maintain it.Yes, there, and that's what we've
been trying to focus on and stuff. And I've been practicing and everything for
the finals and starting and like nextmonth, I'll probably set up a lot
(16:00):
of the our place, like howthe finals will be set up and everything,
and start making actual runs and stuff. But I've been riding everything from
my younger horses to my good horsesand stuff, practicing for it and everything,
and that's been my main focus rightnow. Like we've had a lot
of finals and a lot of goodjackpots come up and everything, but in
(16:21):
the end, that's our main goalfor the end of the year. So
yeah, it's a good goal.Yes, there it's like the only goal
really. Yeah, that's all alwaysour goals starting off every year. So
we always hope that I've always hopedthat I would was gonna be in this
position, and I'm blessed that Iam this year and stuff, and I
would kind of and I didn't losemy good horse during the season, but
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he had colic surgery and at theend of August and London's mom in London
have been taken care of him forme down in Contula and I can start
riding him again at the beginning ofNovember. So I'm really looking forward to
that. Like I got a lotof other good horses and stuff, but
none of them compared to him.So he's such a winner and it makes
it so easy for me to winthat I'm ready to get back on him.
(17:07):
Yeah, yeah, because that's thethat's the one like X factor that
changes everything. And I watched thatthing you did with JJ and she had
said something, wouldn't you say somethingabout how great of a roper you were,
but you never had the right horse, or you had too slow of
a horse. And that was thething that changed it for you maybe or
got you into a position where youcould place more. Yeah, whenever I
came out to college, I reallydidn't have the horses for out here.
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And then I bought a horse wheneverI got to college, and she was
really good, but she was reallytight, like she wasn't one that she'd
either win the rodeo on or you'dmiss to be really fast. And then
I kind of two years ago,after fort Worth, I took actually took
a colt to fort Worth that Iwas riding for somebody else and was going
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to end up selling. And Iwon third on him at fort Worth and
I ended up buying him after that, And how was his first rodeo,
And he was the horse that Iwon the finals off of the first year,
and I ended up winning the averageand how it was the reserve champ
that year, and I kind ofrodeoed on him and another little mayre that
I trained all last year, andthey were good, but they weren't exactly
(18:15):
what I needed, but I couldget by and win enough on him the
whole time. And this year,after the women's finals, I won the
Women's finals on Jesse James and itwas Tanner Green's horse, and I ended
up buying him off of him,and then a couple of weeks later he
let me run some on Legend,and that's the horse that got hurt earlier
(18:37):
this year, and I don't know. At first, I couldn't rope off
of him. I was getting frustrated, and Tanner sat down one day with
me in the practice pen and wegot to work in on some stuff and
then whenever it clicked, it waslike it was hard for that horse to
get beat anywhere because he made everythingso easy for me that it was so
easy for me to rope that wheneverwe were at a road. I mean
(19:00):
when I backed in the box,I didn't have any thought in my mind
that I wasn't going to win it, you know, And I liked having
that confidence that I had on him. And Jesse's good. Jesse's a badass
too, but I just don't havethe exact same confidence on him because he's
still kind of green, and he'sstill young. I mean he's just seven,
(19:22):
and before I had him, Idon't really think they took him to
a lot of rodeos, or hehasn't been hauled as much as Legend has.
Like Tanner took Legend the last probablyseven years to all the rodeos.
I mean he's been to all therodeos. I was at this summer and
everything, and it was kind ofnice having a horse that's been there,
done that, and that is thecaliber of a horse that he is,
(19:44):
because it just made my job somuch easier this summer. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean if people don't really knowthe sport or breakaway right, like
don't know it and understand it realwell, they may not realize like in
that one and a half to threesecond time period, how many variables there
are and which up against and youknow, as far as making a clean,
smooth and fast run, because youcan't do anything without those three components,
(20:07):
right. Oh yeah, heyl Son, If you're not wearing rock and
roll Denham, then you ain't nocowboy. I'm Dale Brisbee, the greatest
boy rider ever to live, andI'm known for keeping it ninety and I
keep it ninety because I'm wearing Rockand Roll Denham with reflex technology. They
give me the flexibility I need toget that knee up. My biggest problem
is I get an earache because Iget my knee up so high. I
(20:29):
kick myself in the year. That'swhy I'm the greatest of all time.
It's because of rock and roll.Denim all Son, get you some what
are like what are some of thevariables that you face and like coming from
being an intermediate or amateur if youwant to call it that, to being
a true professional performance you know,athlete. Yeah, that's what rodeo is,
(20:51):
at least to me. And youknow, what are some of those
variables, and like in the differencesbetween a horse that's not quite a seasoned
as well and one that is borderlineautomatic. Yeah, I feel like how
even between my two good my twobest ones that I feel like it's Jesse
and Legend, And even between thetwo of them, I feel like Legends
(21:11):
a lot faster and he scores alot better than Jesse does. And not
saying that Jesse really truly lacks inthose areas, but Legends just ten times
better than him. Like I knowevery single time that he's gonna be as
fast as he possibly can. WheneverI dropped my hand, like at Cheyenne,
I knew I had it. Iknew I had a couple of calves
(21:33):
that freaking hauled ass, and likeit wasn't even a thought in the back
of my mind that I was stillwasn't gonna make a good run like the
one I think it was the semifinalsround. I ended up winning it on
him, And I knew that calfwas not that great. I knew he
ducked off to the right and thenas soon as you get to him,
he would duck under you and goback to the left, and legend just
(21:55):
made my job so much easier rightthere. And I feel like with girls
a lot of day, a lotof times nowadays, there's so many girls
that rope so good, and alot of girls that have a lot of
potential to be the best roper inthe world, but they're not mounted kind
of like I was three years ago. I mean, I had the rope
and ability, I feel like,but I didn't have the horsepower underneath me
(22:18):
like I had, Like even lastyear, A lot of times I had
that one shot and I was eithergoing to win the rodeo or when first
through fifth, or I wasn't ina place. And now I think this
year. Like when I went outthere this summer, I was focusing on
how many times can I place thissummer like place at all the rodeos and
you'll end up hiring and hiring thestandings, And it turned out to be
(22:41):
true. And like I just wentand focused on catching my calfe every time
and making my run, and alot of times I ended up winning the
rodeo. But it was because ofthe horsepower I had versus not really my
rope and ability, but it havingthe better horses make sure rope and so
much easier that you don't I don'thardly even have to do my job that
(23:03):
great whenever you got a good oneunder you. So yeah, yeah,
I mean and tie down. That'slike the entire thing. There's so many
guys who rope better than anybody outthere like that you don't even know them.
Yeah, and you're getting a practicespend with them, and they can
help you and they can tell youto do everything. You're like, dude,
just guy ever figured it out youhad the money for the horse,
he would go and win the world. Oh yeah, But to have the
(23:26):
access to him, oh yeah.And that's where like you can watch like
we weren't up at the same timeas the guys at a lot of them.
But whenever we were up and yougot to watch some of the tie
down slack, you'd be like,holy cow, like you've never got like
we've always watched the boys at thefinals and stuff, but I've never got
to see him rope at all therodeos during the summer and everything. And
(23:48):
it's mind blowing how much a goodhorse changes it for the tie down too,
because like in the Breakaway, wecan have a bad calf and still
make them good, you know whatI mean. But with the guys,
it's the draws so critical, andwhenever they got those great horses, it
just makes it so much better.And like watching a lot of the rodeos
this summer, I was impressed bya lot of the guy's horses out there.
(24:10):
So yeah, yeah, I meanthe caliber horses nowadays. But it's
everything. Yeah, it's crazy,yeah, oh yeah, because those go
together, but it's it changes everything. But I guess if you're going to
give, like give somebody advice andtell them what to do if they want
to really achieve something and be thebest bartender, yeah, how do they
(24:33):
become the best bartender, don't giveup and keep practicing. Uh like wherever
I came from, Like if you'vesaid roping back there, they kind of
looked at you like you're crazy,Oh bartender, See you were so focused
on roping. I said, howdo you be the best bartender? Didn't
even catch it. I mean becauseTie is thinking about bartending, and well
(24:56):
you're pro. I mean it's prettyit's pretty easy. You just gotta be
good at talking crap and doing goodat your job. Like I loved bartending.
I felt like that was something thatI was really good at too.
And um, I don't know,being fast on your feet was another thing.
Like whenever you're bartending, if youI learned that if you brought somebody
(25:18):
another drink because they look like theyneeded one, they weren't gonna bitch at
you for doing it. They'd probablythank you. They might say I didn't
want that one, but they're stillgonna drink it. So she is so
serious, like she literally just answeredapparently was a horrible joke and answered it
like serious, like ready to go, Like, well this is how you
do it. Yeah, I meanyou're a competitor. Even when you talk,
you're like I'm not gonna fall forthat joke. Well, I mean,
(25:41):
I didn't know if you're being seriousabout it such just answered it.
No, I'm being serious about it. You're sitting number one in the world,
you know. Well, hey,that's cool. You got ice in
your veins, like whether it's bartending. Thank you, yes, sir,
I do, thank you, mybad, it's not. No, it's
actual a good thing. Yeah.Well, I think you'll have a lot
(26:03):
of success. You have the rightmindset and yeah, and your veins,
so you know, it should begood. It'll be fun to watch and
hopefully you get your your gold buckle. Yeah. I hope so too,
you will. I'm gonna try todo my job out there and just go
make my run on each calf andsee where it plays out. I'd love
to win the average in the world. That would be such a cool feeling
(26:23):
at the end of the week.But we'll see how it goes. That's
my plan, though, Yeah,we'll see if I I think that's probably
a good plan. Yeah, it'spretty decent. I thought, yeah,
yeah, but I don't know.You seem to have everything put together the
right way, so that doesn't seemake you get too distracted. No,
I haven't fallen to any vegas traps, and now I don't think I'm gonna
(26:45):
do that. I mean maybe afterif I win the world, I might
fall into some of those vegas trapsfor a day or two. But you
got to celebrate if you do that, you do, yeah, you do,
because technically you've already started for thenext year anyway. So yes,
they're got to enjoy it. Oh, yes, sir, Yes, sir.
That's the only reason I the truethe only reason I want you to
leave us, because then no one'sgonna call me sir. Oh my gosh,
that is just really hard to hear. Do I need do I need
(27:07):
to pull take the sir away fromyou for once? Does anybody ever called
me sir any place that you know? Huh? Yes, no, there,
Okay, that's good. Better,I feel more comfortable. Everybody feel
better about that. Then I won'tsay sir. I'll just say yes.
You're gonna remember this and be likeyou remember the day that I gave up
the words sir. Change your wholelife, your whole taught. My mom
(27:30):
will not allowed to say sir anymore. I'm sorry, you tell her if
she has a problem. I'm notallowed to say, sir, god damage,
it gave me too many manners.Yeah, so wrong, because you're
not even gonna give her grandchildren.She fucked up. Yeah, she keeps
asking for you're Sarah, who's gonnago first? And I'm like, it
better be her. It ain't gonnabe me, ain't gonna be you.
Well, which one has the seriousclosest to marriage? Yeah, boyfriend,
(27:53):
we're probably about the same on that. So I don't know. Is that
nothing, No, No, it'sit's there, But I don't I don't
know. We don't talk about thatkind of stuff. That's that's okay.
You say, I'm pretty serious,but that's a little bit too serious for
me. When we talked about allthat stuff about having yeah, about having
babies and getting married and all thatkind of stuff. I'm only twenty seven,
(28:15):
man, only twenty seven. It'slike there were people who had,
like, did three tours in themilitary already, and I'd like eight kids.
Yeah. I mean, some peoplewant to be married by the time
they're twenty. I threw that outthe window a long time ago. I
don't think people are really getting marriedthat much anymore. I mean a lot
of them. I try to stayoff the face. It's like engagement season
every time I get one. That'severy year. Yeah, exactly. So
(28:38):
people are getting married. Yeah,I don't know. It's kind of a
bumm deal for everybody nowadays. Yeah, it happens, ty, what about
your your people circle, it's atotally different world, totally different circle than
hers or mine. They all gettingmarried. It depends not really in the
city, like it's like it depends, but like I know a lot of
(28:59):
people around my age, they're justnot looking for that, looking to get
married at least this young. Yeah, now once they hit Like I know
some people in their thirties that gotmarried eventually, but most people around my
age are not doing it. Imean not like my best people people were
only living to tell thirty, likea couple hundred years ago. Yeah,
park the kids out quick. Yeahwe're not worried about that. Yeah.
(29:19):
If there weren't ropings where you couldmake money and stuff that takes, you're
pretty ranching. I guess you'd beranching. You'd have to have kids just
to yeah, lots of them.I'm okay, you'd be in a totally
think about it, you'd be bartending. Nope, quite no way. You'd
be like making bread and shit.Yeah, it'd be a different world not
having to do that. Yeah,it would be hard. I don't want
(29:40):
to be doing that or changing diapersor any of that kind of stuff.
I'm all right. Do you watchthe eighteen eighty three The Yellowstone Show.
I have watched some of it.I thought it was pretty cool. I
got through like the I've only watchedlike three episodes of it, but I
started it. I liked it alot. Yeah, so, I mean,
but that's a hard way to liveright there. Yeah, I'm okay
that we're in this time and notin that time. Yes, it's a
(30:03):
little too much, especially when thosegirls lifted up their arms. I was
like, that's a no go.Yeah. I can't think of any other
like period piece TV show where theydidn't shave the girls up, Like that's
the only one I can think ofwhere they grew out the hair. Oh
yeah, I mean you could havebraided it if you wanted to. But
I know, and that you're like, oh, she's a girl's kind of
cute and you're like, oh,I'm out. Yeah, Like you know,
thanks, I understand that that's real, but it's not real in my
(30:26):
world. Exactly. Well, Idon't have anything else to try to get
out of you. Really, ithas been a really good interview. Thank
you for coming anytime. Thanks forhaving me. Yeah, sir, you
know, do you like people tocall you ma'am? Is that a thing
that you enjoy? I mean sometimesand then sometimes I look at them like
they're crazy. So why are youlooking at me like I'm crazy for saying
(30:51):
I don't want to be called sir? Okay, yes, yeah, good
job. She follows directions really well, like you're really I could see why
you would be a good bartender anda good akeaway ropers. Well, my
mom used to chase me around witha wooden spoons, so I had to
learn how to follow direct all thespoons. The worst, you know what
the worst thing to get hit withwas was you remember how the belts like
they're all they're different now, butyour dad have like the conchos, like
(31:12):
silver conchos, those real awful belts. One of those sons of bitches would
change your whole outlook on like,yeah, I got that a few times,
did you. Oh yeah, Iam my mouth washed it. I
was soap. That was that wasthe worst. That was worse than me.
Oh yeah, it didn't really changehow I talked. But because you
don't lose at times, you don'tlose that soap taste. It lingers.
(31:32):
Yeah, for a couple of days, I feel like, yeah, not
literally. You look like you're likefifteen, are you? So you're probably
like if my parents hit me,they would be in jail. It's a
different mindset. No, I don'tthink a man's going to hit you.
No, yeah, maybe that splitreins hurt. Now. Her little brother,
he's a little hellion. He's likethree. This is my boyfriend's sister
(31:55):
by the way, Yeah, andher their little brother, what is he
three or four? Almost four?He was roping the other day and telling
us all how to work, toshoot, how to bring up the calves.
He got mad at her other brother, Caleb, because he didn't set
the gate or and he started bringingup the calves without him. He got
a good cussin in the middle ofthe arena the other day. But it's
all right from a three year old. Oh yeah, it was funny.
(32:16):
I was laughing my butt off.I was like, this is not happening.
All of us are just videoing it. That is pretty funny. Oh
yeah, he said, Hey,next time, why don't you shut that
gate so I don't have to doall the extra work? Man, he
said, just like that. Imean he said it a couple of different
words, but we don't need tosay that. It came out of a
three year old's mouth. Pretty ranchykid. Oh yeah, does he need
(32:37):
to open his mouth just a littlebit. I don't think you could do
it nowadays? No, probably not. I doubt Rich would stand still for
it. He'd just get out.Oh yeah, he'd run away. Look
at you like, you're stupid.What are you doing? Yeah? I
did try to run away a lot. Oh yeah, I ran I did
(32:57):
too until dad found me. Thatwas worst, really, ye, and
then it's ten times worse because they'repissed. Oh yeah, yeah, you're
not walking right for a few days. Yeah. I have to explain to
people what happened. You hadn't makeup that lie at school? So what
so I didn't have to make uphomeschooled? Yeah, that's where the man
came from. You never picked upthe bad habits in public school? No,
(33:20):
not really. Yeah. Riley washomeschooled too, and she never even
curses. I don't know about that. I went to school with her homeschooled.
Ye, yes, ma'am, Iwas homeschooled. I wasn't. Yes,
I was homeschooled. I know youbetter, oh so much better.
Look at it. See that's theonly reason we've kept it going, because
we're just training. It's like ahorse repetition. Okay, I'm working on
(33:44):
not to be so polite. Yeah, why why you just can't be?
I was trying to be nice.Man. I don't know you. You
don't know me any better now,but you do know I don't like sir.
I know you don't like polite people. So next time I'm coming assertive
people. I like assertive people.Okay, I do like a sir people
because people are overly polite might notbe real, not that nice. No,
(34:04):
I usually never get called nice.No more white. Really, I
mean I've just said it a fewtimes. Yeah. Jeffrey Dahmer seemed polite
too until he was bashing you inthe head. Did you watch that show?
Oh? Yeah, how polite washe? I don't trust polite people.
A little aggressive little don't worry.I'm not him not the best chef.
Yeah I'm not. I'm not badat all. He also said he
(34:27):
wasn't that Okay, well, I'mdefinitely not that. I can promise you
that we've all heard that from aserial killer. Stop trying to learn your
traps. I'm not a serial killer, I promise you. Yeah, okay,
good, Well, moment she's havingand then suddenly seemed like a serial
killer. Do you know how itgoes? I don't know how. This
is just like flips so easy.Yeah, this is how podcasts go.
(34:52):
Yeah, it is all right,what have you been on another podcasts?
No, this is my first try. Really, I learned that people don't
like when you're nice. Yeah.Will you take that into some of those
other podcasts, see how those go. Okay, I'll work on You're gonna
be You're gonna be an expert,Okay, I'll try my best. Yeah,
and then you'll be a world championand you'll be great at interviews and
like your whole world's gonna change frombeing right here. Yeah, and then
(35:13):
I'll never say ma'am or sir againyou shouldn't. And you're getting close to
thirty, so why not older people? I say it to old ladies,
older women. Oh I do,yeah, I do. Yeah, But
I'm not going to call someone who'sbasically my same age, Sir be weird.
I don't blame you, but Imean I call everybody that. Yeah,
(35:36):
I'll work on it though time.Okay, all right, I'm glad
we had this talk. Yeah,me too. I'm glad we can resolve
so much. He'll he'll take yourcredit card for the therapy session. Okay,
Deale. I know you want somemoney, so I know there's something
on it. Get that. There'sthree percent fee too for arguing. Okay,
and I know it's such a horribleargument too. Well, we're gonna
(35:58):
let you get on with your day. It is hot out there, and
you got horses in the trailer.Yes. This has been The Gauge,
hosted by me Chance Canardo, producedand edited by our guy Ty Yeager.
Shout out to the executive producers,Dustin Pointer and Cody Denton. Marketing and
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