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July 3, 2025 31 mins
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Forget the fondue, it’s all footy, all the time in Switzerland because the Women’s Euro is already underway, pitting the 16 best European national teams against each other for continental glory. On today’s episode of The GIST of It, co-hosts Ellen Hyslop and Steph Rotz dig into the tourney’s group of death, where world No. 5 England, No. 10 France, No. 11 Netherlands, and No. 30 Wales will battle for one of two tickets to the knockout rounds. Spicy is an understatement.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's up, friends, Welcome or welcome back to another episode
of The Gist of It. Today is Thursday, July third.
We're your co hosts.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Ellen Hyslop and I'm Steph Rodd's and today on
the pod, we're hopping in on a metaphorical plane and
zipping across the pond because the Women's Euro has officially
kicked off in Switzerland, which is shot hiding and the
Euro for context pits the sixteen best European national soccer
teams against each other for continental glory or as it

(00:37):
will be known over there football.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
And if you're wondering if Steph is wearing her Switzerland
hat that she mentioned in the last episode, she indeed is.
She loves a theme. It came ready, You came ready,
and you also came with a hockey player shirt on.
I came with a Brianna Stewart swag wearing. So we're
just really representing women's sports today, which is very exciting
because we have an all women's sports podcast, which I

(01:01):
feel like is perfect, especially considering stuff we are, what's
in between our audience and the long weekend, and so
the more we can have this will be fun and
like a really exciting podcast before the long weekend. I
feel like it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Are you taking Do you get a day off as well?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
No? I took it earlier this week when I'm my
friends out.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Exactly right. So we have a lot to dive into.
And again, if you're not a soccer fan, if you're like, oh,
I don't really follow any international teams outside of the
US women's national team or the Canadian women's national team,
we promise you this tournament is so much fun. It's
a really big deal for women's soccer. And it's also
I think a really good preview heading into the twenty

(01:47):
twenty seven FIFA Women's World Cup. As a lot of
people or old listeners will know, I'm a bit of
a hater of Olympic soccer, and I think that this
is a much better indication of the best Uropean soccer league,
of the best European soccer teams than any Olympics would
do for the entire world. And so I am I'm

(02:09):
very very excited for this. Nothing gets me more jazz
than an international soccer And.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Then also to add to that thought, this also gives
you context for why you might be seeing some really
cool outfits and kits on your feed for Instagram. Because
I saw that before I realized that the Euros were
about to happen. I was like, Oh, this is cool.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Merger, like, why are they dropping? Tell me that you
saw Admirals Spice Girls kit drop.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Of course I did. It's sold out though, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I literally looked at it. It was gone. It was
gone in a second, and my dreams were dashed. I
literally was already picturing myself for the rest of the
year wearing that Spice Girls jersey every single day.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know what I'm not used to when it comes
to soccer jersey so as they run so small.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
They oh my gosh, I felt so bad. I got
my dad a jersey, and he is a classic medium.
I needed to get him an extra large. It was wild.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, I'm really happy that I have started talking about
this because it's not a me issue apparently, But yeah,
I tried to wear my jersey earlier this week.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I was like, oh, and you want how these fit
is because you want them tight as a soccer player,
because you don't want anyone pulling on your jersey, so
it's not as tight It's not as tight as a
rugby jersey by any stretch of the imagination, but soccer shirts.
Soccer jerseys always run tight on their players. In comparison
to any other jersey of a team jersey, I would say,

(03:35):
I have a team sport.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You just lost me when you said rugby. I started
picturing those rugby shirts are tight, the shorts and.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
The shorts, and the tight shirts.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
And the the shorts and the lifting.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Of the We've all seen the TikToker straps of both
Men's and wars rugby that we are all obsessed with.
But that's another topic for another day. I think that
there was something that I saw on social media today
that I immediately messaged the Slack and I immediately message
our podcast Slack and said, we need to talk about this.

(04:08):
This is something that is so spicy, and so because
of that, we need to call an audible. This is
a part of our new kind of podcast format, which
we'll get to later actually, because we are going to
be accepting new names for this segment of the podcast.
And this spicy thing that we're talking about is the
response to this year's WNBA's Commissioner's Cup, and namely this

(04:33):
is following the Indiana Fever win and a little someone
named Kaitlyn Clark pleaing to league Commissioner Kathy Engelbert after
the Fevers win on Tuesday. I loved it so.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Much when you sent this, Oh my gosh, I was
grinning ear to ear. In the video that Caitlin Clark
is in that we're referencing right now, she says, quote,
you get more money for this than you do if
you're the WNBA Finals champion. It makes no sense. Someone
tell Kathy, referring to the commissioner, to help.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Us out, which is not something you normally hear from
Kaitlyn Clark. I also found it exceptionally interesting because the
Indiana Fever defeated the Minnesota Links eighty four to seventy
nine on Tuesday night, even though Clark was sidelined with
a groin injury, and that was against both of our
predictions as well. Stuff we were both really leaning towards
Minnesota twin. And what I love so much is that

(05:30):
clearly she was still partying with her entire team that
the champagne up. Sidney Colson was actually taking the video
and doing the live and she's I think the best
personality in the entire WNBA. She is so much fun
of how the pleasure of meeting her too. But for
Kaitlyn Clark to say that and to call out Kathy Engelbert,
that's something, and that is her using her platform to say,

(05:54):
what the heck is going on here? Can we get
paid more for winning the entire league as opposed to
just the Commissioner's Cup.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
To me, it was the first time I've seen her
the energy that she brings onto the court. Off the court, interestingly,
she is so I feel tight lipped, maybe except for
what to composed. Yeah, but I'm saying off the court
like she doesn't usually say a whole lot. So this
was really really interesting for me to see.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Maybe she had a few bevies. And for a little
bit of context on what the Commissioner's Cup is, it
is that n season tournament that Steph and I talked
about where essentially the first games in the regular season
or certain games in the regular season also go to
award Commissioner's Cup points, and the best team in the
East faces off against the best team in the West.

(06:40):
The win comes with a prize pool of five hundred
thousand dollars each player on the winning team takes home
thirty thousand dollars. The game MVP, which in this case
was Natasha Howard, was awarded a five thousand dollars bonus
on top of that, and then players on the losing
team still receive ten thousand dollars. Was also cool, STEPH
is that coinbase was a sponsor of this and they

(07:01):
added an additional one hundred and twenty thousand dollars in
cryptocurrency to the cup prize pool, with five K going
to every player on both the Fever and the Link.
So that's the Commissioner's Cup. Think about the winning team
taking home thirty thousand each and there's only been what
a quick math like, not even twenty games this season

(07:22):
that they've played so far, around twenty games this season.
The WNBA champions, on the other hand, those Steph received
twenty thousand and eight hundred dollars each per Sportico.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, so let's break that down a little bit because
again it isn't the same number as the thirty k,
which is why Caitlin Clark was referencing it. But let's
give you the why as to that is the reason
right now. So the annual playoff prize pool was initially
set in the CBA or the collective bargaining agreement that
expires in the end of this season that we've been
talking about on the podcast, and the w doubled what

(07:54):
championship winners earn in twenty twenty two, increasing the total
playoff bonus pool to five hundred K, which is the
same amount of the Commissioner's Cup pool, but it's distributed
differently and that's why the numbers don't add up the same.
So this is split between all eight competing playoff teams
versus just the two in the Commissioner's Cup finals, So

(08:17):
that is why those figures aren't the exact same, even
though the prize pool is the same.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
And I would be a little bit upsetify was those
WNBA players, especially for this year, because when they also
signed that CBA, they were barely playing any playoff games
and now we're actually going to see a proper full
seven game WNBA Finals. But the payout at the end
is still the same because that's that collective bargaining agreement,

(08:42):
and so I do think in the next collective bargaining
agreement stuff it will be and should be a lot
higher if only for the fact that the league is
looking at the actual games played and the actual money
that they're able to make off of it, and the
actual money that the teams are able to make off
of making the playoff bigger and longer year after year

(09:03):
after year. So that I think is really interesting. And
the other thing stuff here is like the players desperately
want to win the WNBA Finals, They want to win
the entire season versus the Commissioner's Cup, and part of
the reason why the Commissioner's Cup works they want to
get paid.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, I want to give you a real quick quote
to really exemplify that. One of the favorite things that
I've read all week, which is Minnesota Links Courtney Williams
said before the Commissioner's Cup final game that she quote,
I don't really care about the hardware. I want that
bag honestly relatable.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Relatable content. They wanted to get paid. And this is
also too why Steph like WNBA players, as we talked
about in the last episode, they're making anywhere between seventy
to five hundred thousand NBA players, so much more so
this Commissioner's Cup check actually matters versus the NBA side
of things. It matters for those newer to the league

(09:56):
and newer to a team or who isn't making that
much money. And that's like when you hear Lebron saying
I wanted to make this money for those other guys,
They're not necessarily wanting to make the money for themselves.
Every single player wants to go out there and earn
another thirty thousand dollars if their salary is sitting less
than five hundred thousand dollars or sitting at that seventy
five thousand mark. You know what I mean. This is

(10:17):
good money.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
This good money.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, I don't know. I think I think that's very
interesting to see Caitlin Clark call out the league. I
think that it's very interesting in the year heading into
this new collective bargaining agreement, and I think.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
That it really the WNBA and all leagues should be
paying those players for working that entire season and working
those playoffs and motivating and encouraging them to win, and
like paying them based off of the extra games as
opposed to just the commissioner's cut.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes, quick quick context. So they do get a certain
amount if they play in the first round, second round,
et cetera. So there is incentive to day in the
playoffs or to make the playoffs, but yeah, for sure
you want that big bag at the end.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
This episode is sponsored in part by Bimo, the bank
that's been growing the game of soccer in North America
for almost twenty years. Thanks to Bemo's support, we can
bring you all the updates from the ongoing UEFA Women's Euro,
explaining the tournament to those new to it, and making
sure our soccer obsessed fans are satiated from kickoff to
trophy hosting. To learn more about how BEMO is growing

(11:27):
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One more time, learn more about how Bimo is growing
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Speaker 2 (11:48):
All Right, the UEFA Women's Euro is officially underway in Switzerland,
which is why I'm wearing my Switzerland hat. And I
don't know if you can hear Oh, there's a little
bell on it cow bell.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Wait? Are we an ASMR podcast?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah? Can you can you hear it?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I tried to be so quiet. We got a little
bit of a hat rub. It's so cute. There's two
little happy cows on stuff's hat with little bells around
their collar.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Too cute, so cute. Yeah, they're here to celebrate women's soccer,
women's football, So let's art.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Off with some context. Yeah, give us into everything. The
Women's euro as we mentioned before, puts the sixteen best
national teams in Europe against one another to compete for
continental glory. I love this tournament too, Steph, because a
lot of Europeans do play in the European league, so
Freudan Bundesliga, the Women's super League, Liliga on the women's side.

(12:51):
The list goes on and on and on. But there's
also a ton of European talent in the NWSL who
are taking a break to go back and actually in
this UAFO Women's zero and so it's bringing some of
the best and all of the best Europeans into one place.
The format is similar to the Summer Olympics or the
FIFA Women's World Cup. The sixteen teams are divided into

(13:13):
four groups A, B, C, and D, where they compete
in a round robin stage, with each team playing everyone
in their group once.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
At the end of the group stage, the top two
finishers in each group advanced to the knockout stage, so
again a very familiar format for us. All each win
earns a team three points, a draw or tie one points.
I know tie is not the word to use, but
that's for me, and a loss isn't worth any points,
so zero points. Teams are ranked by points in each group,

(13:44):
but if there's a tie among point getters, then they
look at goal differential to see who will advance to
the knockouts. So goals matter.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Goals matter, and this is the same essentially as FIFA
World Cup or the Olympics. Two to your point stuff,
even those differentials in the points. So we are going
to spend today's one Big Story segment focusing on one
group in particular, and we are focusing on Group D.
And the reason why we're focusing on Group D is
that it is being known as the group of death,

(14:13):
and it feels like there's a group of death in
every single tournament, both on the men's side as well
as the women's side. It is a soccer term used
to describe an especially difficult group to advance out of
because it contains many, many, many of the best teams
in this UEFA Women's Euros Group D includes number five

(14:36):
and defending champs England, number ten, France, number eleven, Netherlands
and number thirty Whales. And when you hear those four
team stuff by rankings alone, you can tell that this
is a tough group. But and we'll get into this,
this group actually petrifies me. It makes me so scared,

(14:56):
and especially because I think that England, France, and the
Netherlands would actually be some of my top picks to
win the tournament altogether. And so the fact that at
least one of them is not going to be exiting
into or advancing into that knockout round is terrifying to
me because I think that they're some of the best
teams in the entire world.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
And then, just to be clear, those rankings aren't within Europe, right,
they're the international ranking exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
So yeah, that's huge, it's huge, Like they're literally some
of the best teams in the world.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Okay, I mean you get.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
To see most of them in the Olympics, right, right,
That's why I had a hate on.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's your hill to die on for sure. Okay, So
we're gonna start with number five ranked England. A little
bit of background on this team. They're actually the defending champs.
I don't know if you guys remember twenty twenty two,
but what right those Euros were.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
In our COVID days too, Like we were. We were
watching so many sports and so much soccer in twenty
twenty two in the depths of COVID. I was glued
to this tournament in Gluey too.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh, I remember it so so vividly, so I hope
you guys do too. And with that there actually actually
been some suway.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Sorry, one thing do you remember in twenty twenty two
before we move into here. The reason why it was
such a big deal is that it was I think
it was being hosted in England, or it might be yes,
it was, it was wasn't hosted in England. But also
the biggest thing for England has always been like it's
coming home and I've been there, like cheer and their
thing when they're talking about soccer and they're wanting the

(16:30):
men so badly to win because it's England sport that
they created, whatever, But it was the women that brought
it home and I think Steph at the time there
was huge increases in Lioness fandom in England, and there
was so much more interest generated in women's soccer because
of the Lioness's run, because they were actually able to

(16:50):
bring it home when the men haven't been able to
bring it home now for decades on decades on decades.
And so that's also why twenty twenty two was so special,
is because the I and s is brought it home.
It wasn't the Lions or whatever the hell the men's
team even calls. I don't even care, but it wasn't
the men's team that brought it home. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I love it. We've got we've got the Olympic rerant,
we've got Sorry, I'm just checking my Bengal card and
I'm ready for more.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I haven't sipping my hater aide today.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And I love the days when you do. I just
we're gonna have to offline more hater energy and.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So I love it.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Gotta I gotta soak it all up anywhoy. But Yeah,
what I was gonna say is there have been some
significant roster changes since that title went in twenty twenty two.
We got to talk about the goalkeeper Mary ERPs and
former captain Millie Bright are not on this team. ERPs
announced that she was retiring from international footing back in May,
and it's a huge deal. She was the starting keeper

(17:50):
in that eurowin and an absolute force. And the new
starting keeper, Hannah Hampton, is relatively untested on the international stage,
so this this is a point of anxiety. I would say.
Whereas Bright withdrew herself from consideration in early June, she
didn't retire because she said she's not able to give
one hundred percent mentally or physically, and honestly huge respect

(18:14):
to that. There are so few roster spots and there's
there's more more to do than just this tournament.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I think England is still an amazing team. I think
the question is what does their locker room look like
having just lost two veterans that have been there before
that know how to walk them through things. If there's
anything we saw in the NHL's Stanley Cup this year
with Florida going back to back, it was because there
was a lot of veteran leadership in that locker room,

(18:41):
and we know that that's important. The other thing about
England stef they notoriously start slow, low, lows, slow, slow,
and so it will be very interesting to see with
these changes on their team, if they are able to
start fast because their opening game is against France, they
do not have time to be slow in the tournament

(19:03):
or in any any game that they're playing. So that's England.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
What a great way to segue into talking about France,
another team in this group. France is essentially starting from scratch,
so not the exact same as just losing two vets
like England. Is there, They're really starting new here. France
has never won the euro or a Women's World Cup,
despite being an absolute player on the international stage. So

(19:28):
they've got a new head coach, and the coach made
some very intentional decisions like not building the squad like
it's been and namely not putting former captain Wendy Grenard
on the squad.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Steph was so excited to talk about this France team,
if only because it gave her the opportunity to actually
use the francophone that we always so desperately want to use.
And you know, as Stef, I liked this decision. I
really don't think o Renarre should have made the team.
I think that is really smart to leave them off
the team. I think that Christine Sinclair on the Canadian

(20:04):
women's national team. I'm obsessed with her. I love her.
I stand I really don't think that she should have
been making some of those Canadian rosters at the end
of her international career. I know that that's a hot take,
and I know that it's a take that's unexpected from me,
but I think that that was a miss on Canada's part,
and it's because it's Christine Sinclair. Yeah, and then for

(20:26):
those who are unfamiliar with Christine Sinclair, this would be
like you're leaving off Megan Rappino ahead of the twenty
nineteen Women's World Cup, which would have been a bad
decision then for someone like Megan Rappino, I do think.
But I think the biggest thing that this coach is saying,
like we want to bring a major tournament title and
a major tournament trophy home to France. Why are we

(20:48):
going to keep on doing the same thing. The definition
of insanity is doing the same thing over and over
and over again. And the head coach even quoted Einstein
when he said that, And so he's really looking to
shake things up going in with an inexperienced team. And
I really like this stuff because I think that they
have no pressure. I think that they have a little
bit of a chip on their shoulder to prove and

(21:10):
we would run wrong. And I think that they could
look at this as we're getting an amazing international competition
experience ahead of the twenty twenty seven FIFA Women's World Cup.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
That's true. If there's a time to do it, it's now.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
And they've won a few times with this head coach
in charge, so I do trust him.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Mm hmm, Okay, should we move on to the Netherlands?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Okay, let's move on to the Netherlands. They're ranked number
eleven internationally. They boast one of the world's best footballers.
Is she your faith?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
She is one of my favorites. Vivian Medeinma.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's vibrating. She was vibrating, and I said, you know
what I'm gonna I'm gonna pass this over to you.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
She is no. I love her so much. And part
of the reason why I'm so excited stuff is that
we didn't have the privilege to watch her on the
international stage for a really long time because she was
coming back from an ACL injury and so we didn't
get to really see her at her full play. She

(22:13):
to me is one of the best strikers and goal
scorers in the world, and I think with her finally
being back full throttle. So we did't see her in
twenty twenty three because of that ACL injury in the
Women's World Cup, but I think if she is full throttle.
She's having some hamstring stuff which makes me a little
bit nervous. But if she can get to even ninety

(22:34):
five percent, literally good luck to everybody else. Because she
is a goal scorer, she takes advantage. As we talk
about in soccer, it's all about the moments. She's someone
who actually knows how to take advantage of them. And
I'm so excited to finally watch her. I actually I'm thrilled.
I'm thrilled.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
And then their goalkeeper is also having some health issues
with the ankle, so I think that would be maybe
one of the things that my factor into whether or
not they would you say I would think they're a
banger for advancing No, I.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Think in this group, no one is. There's literally no
guarantee of who is going to go through. I'd say
it's probably not Wales, but def like your guess is
as good as mine. As who is going to make
it out of this group. It is the group of
death for a reason. I do think that France and
England and the Netherlands are pretty well matched. This team
is loaded with talent, and I think that again, it's

(23:28):
been a few years since they've won something at this
big level, and I think that they're going to want
this group and this roster to be able to show
that they're just as good as the roster in twenty
seventeen or in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I do want to talk about number thirty Whales, so
because I know that you said that they're probably not
going to make it out of the group stage. It
is really exciting because this is Wales's first major tournament
ever and they've never made a Women's Zero or a
FIFA Women's World Cup before, so it's just really really
exciting for this particular squad. They could play spoiler, right,
so it may come down to gold differentials here, so

(24:05):
they could certainly have an impact on Group D whether
or not they make it out.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think that's a great way to frase it is
them playing spoiler and them getting the experience that they
need to potentially then move on to more of an
international stage tournament to potentially play in another euro And
when we talked about at the beginning, stef that there's
amazing European talent playing in the NWSL. This is an
amazing case. So a lot of NWSL fans will recognize

(24:33):
Welsh midfielder Jess Fischlock. She is a legend on the
Seattle Rain having played for the club for thirteen seasons.
She is thirty years old, she's likely in the twilight
of her career, but she's played with folks like Megan
Rapino for the majority of her career and has I
think been named MVP at least once in the NWSL
and if not a couple times, And so I think

(24:55):
this is such a great moment for her, especially when
she's on the back end of her CA to lead
Wales in this Women's.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Euro That's such a nice story to wrap it all up.
So let's talk about how and when to watch Group
d's first two group stage games are this upcoming Saturday,
so mark your calendars. Wales will take on the Netherlands
at twelve pm Eastern time and then France will face
off against England at three pm Eastern time. What an
exist changing Saturday, you can watch on Fox Sports in

(25:26):
the US and on TSN and Canada.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And what those times are perfect? Perfect, Literally, those perfects
are perfect.

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seven nine, but we also would love if you if
you want to email us, email us at pod at
the sports dot com, or you can reach out to
us personally via DM. So Ellen at the gist, is

(26:20):
it just Ellen.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
At the gist? That's exactly what it is?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Perfect On Instagram or at Stephanie Rots, you can either
group it or talk to us individually, depending on how
you feel that particular day.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, exactly, depending on how you feel, and as we
said before, depending on who you like more. And so
for this personal training session, we received a DM from
a longtimeister and I really appreciated it. It was from
MD Hellman, and MD messaged me about a week ago
and has some ideas and had some thoughts about the

(26:53):
gist of it, which I really really appreciated. And so
this is what they said. End quote. Hey love the
pod and have for years, But about calling audibles. If
a football team is calling an audible at every play,
the coaches, having done their homework, will likely be fired.
Maybe there's a better name for what you do at
the beginning of every podcast. I get the whole podcast

(27:14):
as audio audible thing, but an alternative that just came
to mind might be pivot or a pivot you're going
in run direction, but then you quick spin into something
else without stopping the action. End quote. So that is
what MD had to say to us, And first and foremost,
I love how you're thinking about evolving the gist of it,

(27:36):
and I love the suggestion. Especially as a startup. I
never want us to be complacent in what we do.
We always want to be thinking about how we can
improve things, better serve our audience, better serve our gisters,
and for us to fully walk the walk and being
a fan first company, we listen to our gisters and
we're like, what do you guys, think, what do you
want us to talk about? What should we be changing,

(27:58):
what should the vibe be? Knowing that maybe calling an
audible isn't the vibe is so helpful.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
To us, and we always want to give the flowers
to the people who need the flowers, which is our
producers who yeah the pod, and they are the coaches
metaphorically speaking up this podcast, and they are always very
prepared and always do their homework. So you know what,
that is a good thing to take into consideration as well.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, exactly like calling an audible. I will say, there
are sometimes where things are prepped and Steph and I
do go we say who we are, We are actually
changing this. We are actually calling an audible the minute
we get on to do the podcast together and we
as players get to do that. We as quarterbacks do
get to do that. But for the most part, our
coaches have prepped us and have prepared us to run

(28:45):
the show the way they want us to run the show.
So maybe it's a pivot, Maybe it doesn't have anything
to do with change. Maybe it's a different way to
introduce the first topic. Maybe it's more of a hot
take vibe. I don't know. What it is, but we
want your suggestions literally. Email us pot at theissports dot com,

(29:05):
dm us Ellenett, the GISTs at Stephanie Rodds. We're very
open to this and we'd love to change it in
a way that makes sense for you, guys. I love that.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Thank you so much for this feedback. Keep the suggestions coming,
so add that to the list. You can give us
your commentary, You can ask us questions, you can give
us suggestions anything anything goes.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
You can give us feedback on how to get your
TikTok back. That would be so helpful too. Anyway, so
out there, No, it's it's horrible. I've I've just given
up and I've started following and saving and liking again
for my random ass account. It makes me really sad.
But anyway, that marks san Today's episode. I drink a
lot of hater ay today, and I would say that's
normally not my vibe. I generally am a positive person.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You are, but I love it when you aren't.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know, I'm feeling spicy today.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You have a good balance, though, I would say, uh uh, Libra, yeah, yeah,
you know, you know, you know when you need to
rint And some friends or people will say, but have
you thought about it from their perspective, Like you won't
give that to me, Like you know, you're the type
of person that will give me the space to have
some hater aid or to drink some hatter aid, but
then you'll also be so kind to others, so you're

(30:16):
it's a balance.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
No. I love giving space to my friends to feel
what they need to feel, and then saying, oh my god,
you're so right. That's what you're supposed to do as
a friend. Oh my god, you're so right. And then
when they're in the space to hear something different, you
could talk to them another time about something else, yeah,
or maybe about that, but you can circle back. That's
not what they need from that conversation. And today I
needed the hate, So thank you for giving me the

(30:37):
space for that. And I really don't like that word
I'm not, but anyway, I just was. I had thoughts,
I had feelings. We'll be back in your feed with
a new podcast on Tuesday, but in the meantime, if
you enjoyed this episode, we'd love for you to rate, review, subscribe,
call us you know the drill.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
This episode was edited by Savannah Held and produced by
Lisia Mantilo, Alessandra Puccio and Lauren Tescila. And again, I'm
Steph Rout's.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
And Emilian has left. Go touch him grass this long
weekend and we'll talk with you again soon
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