August 19, 2025 • 42 mins
It’s almost time for the NFL!
Pumpkin spice and crisp leaves are just around the corner, meaning football season is nearly here. To celebrate, today’s episode of The GIST of It features NFL analyst and former tight end Greg Olsen, chatting with co-host Ellen Hyslop on everything from unexpected storylines to follow this season to the impact of his pal, Travis Kelce, and Taylor Swift. Hut, hut, here we go.
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Pumpkin spice and crisp leaves are just around the corner, meaning football season is nearly here. To celebrate, today’s episode of The GIST of It features NFL analyst and former tight end Greg Olsen, chatting with co-host Ellen Hyslop on everything from unexpected storylines to follow this season to the impact of his pal, Travis Kelce, and Taylor Swift. Hut, hut, here we go.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's up, just seners. Is that time of the week again.
We are back with another episode of The Gist of It.
Today is Tuesday, August nineteenth. We're your co hosts.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Ellen Hyslop and I'm Steph Rotts, and I am
very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I feel, like I said as the beginning of every episode,
I'm very excited for today's episode. But when I tell
you I'm so excited for today's episode, it's because it's
on a beloved topic of mine, and that is because
we are talking about for our one Big Story. We
of course have two other segments as well, but for
our one big story, we are talking about the NFL,
(00:42):
and we're not just talking about the NFL. I had
the opportunity to sit down with NFL analyst and former
tight end Greg Olsen and to paint the picture a
little bit more on Greg Olsen. He is a big deal.
To painted, he's a big deal, and he reached out
to us and was like do you want to be
(01:03):
like can can I come on the Gist of It?
And we were like, you literally call NFL games on
Fox Sports on Sundays, speaking to millions of people that
are tuning in and you want to come on the
gist of it, let's go. And part of the reason
why he wanted to come on the gist of it
is that because now that he's a dad, he's created
this new company that's all about how to get kids
(01:25):
more involved with youth sports, how to get more girls
involved in youth sports, how parents can navigate the system.
But then, of course, because of what he does and
who he is, we had an opportunity to talk about
the NFL kind of at large and like chat with
him about what he sees for this upcoming season, what
he's thinking about changing in fandom, and like how that's
(01:47):
also impacted his job as an analyst. And then he's
also friends with Travis Kelce, so obviously we had to
be like, okay, give us the tea on Taylor and Travis.
So the timing, as much as it feels like an
early preview for the NFL, it is the preseason right now.
It feels like we talked about some topical things. Obviously
last week I had the opportunity to chat with him,
(02:08):
and everything came out with Taylor Swift and Travis. So
even if you don't know Greg Golson, you've probably heard
his voice before somehow being associated with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What I like to when we have different guests on
the podcast is having the variety, Like we've had people
from the business side of sports, now we have an
analyst athletes. It's so fascinating to have all these different
people involved in giving us their stories.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes, totally, and I feel like too, this is it
kind of speaks to different types of fandom. And having
a guy come on the podcast about like, we haven't
had a guy come on the pod in a while.
Why is a man here? I was like, WHOA, Welcome
to the gist of it, and we had a really
great conversation though even about that, so like it was
a really cool and interesting and probably different conversation than
(02:56):
what we're used to. So we hope that you all
enjoy it and that you tune in. But there are
a couple of things obviously with personal training Sash later
in the podcast, but also I know, Steph, there was
something really important that you wanted to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, so I would love to take today's calling an
audible speaking about the NFL one of my favorite podcasts.
I love the work that they do and I appreciate
the work they do. They're always a really long form,
so they're great for long drives. So it's called End
of Sport. It's an academic, folks focused podcasts intersecting with sports.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So it's just right up my alley. But they really
it's step.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
They released an episode recently that I took took this
past weekend to listen to that I really wanted to
talk about today and really wanted to call anaudible about.
So the episode was called On Athletic Side and it
examined the destruction Can you say that again?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
On athletic Side is what it's called On Athletic Side? Yeah, okay,
So like, okay, I see what you mean. A play
on words there, it's a play.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's a combination of two words. Yeah, okay, And it
really they took an hour and they examined the destruction
of athletes, athletics, athletic infrastructure in Palestine and really introduced
me to the concept of athleticide.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Just really talked.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
About how an entire generation of athletes, future athletes, have
just been wiped out from Palestine and how it's being
used as a pattern of.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Cultural and social erasure through sports.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So how sport really does tie so closely with identity
and with a cultural and a political landscape. So how
important it is because we all know that, that's why
we listen to this podcast and do this podcast. We
all know how important sport is. And in that episode
they mentioned that Halifax, which is a Canadian city on
the East Coast, will host the Davis Cup International Tennis
(04:49):
match between Team Canada and Israel at the Scotia Bank
Center this upcoming September twelve through thirteen. And the Davis
Cup is very well known in the world world of tennis,
It's the World Cup of ten and so I googled
the event after I listened to the podcast and found
an article entitled Israel is trying to sports wash with
its genocide with Canada as hosts, and it was written
(05:10):
by poet Lauriate L. Jones, Canadian East Coaster, so really
calling for Israel to be banned internationally in the same
way that Russia has and we all know Russia has
been banned from competing in competitions back to twenty twenty
four the Olympics. They weren't allowed to compete under the
title of Russia because of their unprovoked war on Ukraine.
(05:30):
And Israel has not been banned from any international competitions yet,
and I think it is becoming increasingly clear what is
going on in Gaza in the West Bank. And at
the time of recording, a group of four hundred and
thirteen Canadian and Canadian based scholars, athletes, olympians, journalists would
have you, have signed a public letter calling on the
(05:52):
cancelation of the Davis Cup match between Team Canada and
Team Israel. And the tennis community has previously taken action
before they mentioned this in the letter. So of course
Russia has been banned from tennis matches, and back in
nineteen seventy South Africa was banned from the Davis Cup
for their apartheid era policies. And I'm just really interested
(06:12):
to see what's gonna come of this. It is a
lot of well known names are on it, and I
would love to see more well known names on it.
And I just between this podcast, this article, and this letter,
there is really more of a calling, I would say,
happening right now for the sports community to really step
up and be a part of this conversation. So the
Davis Cup is scheduled on September twelfth and thirteenth in Canada.
(06:34):
So interesting to see how that letter and how the
pressure on the ground really affects that event.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Thanks so much for sharing all of this stuff and
just repeating one more time for those of you who
are wanting to dig deep. The podcast is called End
of Sport in the episode that Steph is talking about
is on athletic side.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
All Right, it's time for Allen's conversation with former NFL
tight end and current NFL on Fox color commentator Greg Olsen,
who's also the founder of Youth Inc. A digital platform
to help fellow parents and community members enrich the world
of youth sports.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Which is so important. We've talked about it so many
times about how sports really are magic when youth are
able to play them and when they continue to play
them throughout their teenage years as well. So in today's
episode we kind of already highlighted it, but we're going
to talk about you think and why you might find
it interesting, whether you have kids, if you're liking of
having kids, if you want to get involved as a volunteer,
(07:37):
what have you. Why Greg thinks we're in the golden
age of NFL tight ends. That was a little bit nerdy,
but I really enjoyed that conversation. And then we get
into some more of the like off fields kind of
side of the game. We talked about fashion, we talked
about culture, we talked about female fandom, we talked about
the impacts of Taylor and Travis. So I felt like
(07:58):
it was a well rounded convo. I'm biased. I had
a lot of fun. Okay, let's listen. Okay, Greg, thank
you so much for joining the gist of it today.
We're so excited to have you here.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, thanks for having me. This is gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh my gosh. Of course, there's a lot of things
on the agenda. We have a lot of things happening
in your life, a lot of things happening in pop culture,
a lot of things about to happen slash still happening
in the NFL right now, and I want to get
into all of it with you, I think. Most importantly, though,
I want to chat about your company, you think, and
I know that our gisters are going to love it.
(08:35):
So I'm hoping you can explain in your own words
what you're doing, what inspired you to start it, and
all of that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, So it really was originally started as a passion
project of mine about two or three years ago. I'm
the father of three young kids. I have two sons,
I have a daughter. I grew up the son of
a high school football coach, so I lived in the
world of sports from the time I was a baby
all the way now to as a parent in my
post retirement now dad and youth sports coach life. After
(09:07):
I retired and I found myself, my wife and I
would be laying in bed at night and we'd be like,
I don't know if we're doing this right, Like are
we on the right team? Are we doing is it
too much? Is it not enough? Are the kids working
hard enough? Are we keeping the right developmental checklist?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
What in this world where there's so many decisions on
where to play and how to play and what to
do and what not to do. We felt like if
we didn't have all the answers with the experience that
I had, then there's probably millions of people around the
country that are all swimming in the same kind of world.
So we started having these conversations that you think started
building the content page around having really fascinating conversations with
(09:43):
athletes like Tom Brady and coaches like Ryan Day, you
know of the Ohio State national championship football team, Malcolm
Gladwell that you know, the world renowned author. I sat
down with him. He's going to be an episode here
in the next week or so, you know, with his
work with outliers and talking to strangers and David and Glyde,
some of his pioneering work that he's done on a
lot of these topics. And we just feel like we
(10:05):
can really be a cool resource. And I'm the first
to admit as the host quote unquote of our pod,
like I don't have any of the answers either. So
like here I am going along the journey with our
listeners saying, hey, we all are in the same boat.
Let's go out and ask really smart people with really
unique perspectives, and let's get a better picture. And so
that's one side of the company. And then there's a
commerce side, right, Like I see you're wearing a San
(10:27):
Francisco forty nine or shirt. It's really easy to find
a San Francisco forty nine or shirt or a Carolina
Panther Dallas Cowboys online licensed, but you can't wear it
if it's your kid's middle school football team or their
travel ball club or their volleyball team. It's a little
bit harder to get curated youth sports team wear and
merch and whatnot. So the economic commerce side of our
(10:50):
platform is to try to improve that experience for parents, coaches,
kids that we always say, every mom's favorite team in
the world is the one their son or daughter plays on.
So why are they not wearing their middle school, high
school travel soccer club? Why are they not wearing really
cool gear, really premium brands, but with the team that
they probably care the most about, and we're seeking that.
(11:12):
We're kind of setting out to try to address that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's so cool. Congratulations on everything that you're doing there.
It feels so needed, especially in this world where as
you said, there's so many different decisions, there's so many
different complications, and I feel like sports fandom is very localized,
but then when you think about youth sports, that's something
that's even more localized. How are you kind of navigating
all that when you're starting this national brand but you're
(11:38):
also kind of working at these grassroots levels.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, it's challenging, right because instead of there being thirty
two NFL teams and thirty NBA teams and you know, obviously,
college is a little big of a scale, you know,
with you know, hundreds and hundreds of colleges. But in
the world of youth sports and travel clubs and organizations
and schools, there's thousands and thousands and thousands of unique teams,
(12:03):
unique schools and whatnot. So it's a little bit of
a different animal, but it's one that we've really enjoyed.
I mean, we're gonna when we launched last week with hundreds,
if not thousands of schools, their logos all uplifted. You
can go there right now to youth dot, Inc. And
get your favorite hoodie, your favorite sweater, your favorite half
quarter zip, your favorite polo, whatever it is, sweats, all
(12:24):
the gear that we have on and you can get
it customized, drop shipped right to you with your school,
travel ball, whatever is your desire. So we're really excited
about it. It is a grassroots It is kind of
a you know, local hometown. You want to wear your
school team with pride on a Friday night or a
Saturday morning. But we also think that's kind of the
beauty of it all to to really be able to
(12:47):
walk around wear clothes and brands that you're accustomed to
wearing and all of a sudden, now it actually is
your favorite team because it's your kids team.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So smart, I love it. And let's talk about your
podcast too. Your first guest of the season was Tom Brady.
Him a couple times already, you guys did address the
elephant in the room about him stepping into that Fox role.
How did you prepare for that face to face moment?
What was it like kind of chatting with him, especially
with both of you being dads in this football world too.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, So Tom and I have gotten to know each
other over the last you know, twelve to eighteen months,
more so post retirement. We knew each other when we
were playing and would cross pats and say a hell
before and after games, but it wasn't really a personal
relationship at that point. We've gotten to know each other
better since we both now worked at Fox for the
last you know, call it two years at year and
a half, and we've just really gotten to know each
(13:37):
other just as friends, as dads, as parents, and you know,
we're both raising teenage girls that are like the exact
same age. So here we are sitting around and everyone's
assuming we're talking about football and schemes and we're like, dude,
I got a twelve year old daughter at home and like,
oh my god, the things I never imagine. And Tom
grew up with sisters. He had all sisters. I grew
(13:59):
up with all boys, and like, we didn't have We
had one girl in the house and it was my mom.
So this is a little bit of uncharted territory for me.
But it's awesome and those are the conversations that matter.
We talked a lot about it on the pod that
dropped for our kind of kickoff show. And you know,
again between his personal story growing up with sisters, growing
(14:19):
up and dealing with some early adversity as an athlete,
and then obviously his career and what unfolded from college
and beyond. Obviously he is pretty u people are pretty
familiar with. So he was a great first guest. We've
got to know each other. I was for you know,
we're just really blessed that he was willing to do
it and spend so much time with us, And uh,
I think it was a really good way to kind
(14:40):
of relaunch our you think mission, and uh, we're excited
about the guys, you know, the different people we have
coming down the list, you know down the road.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I'm really excited too. And I think What's so
cool about that conversation, and I'm hoping some conversations to
come as well, is that sometimes when you speak to
an nfler or a broadcaster like yourself, it can be
a little bit unrelatable for fans like us. But when
you're thinking and speaking of yourself like a dad and
what it means to change things at the U side,
that content becomes so much more relatable from a fan
(15:11):
side as well. Give us a little bit of a
sneak peek of what else we can expect this season
on the pod.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, it's so true because I think everyone assumes, all, right,
here's this football player and he's just going to interview
a bunch of dudes and they're going to talk about
football and how many Super Bowls everybody won and just
tell the same story. And some of our best interviews
that we've had, you know, I've sat down with Jenny Finch,
the you know, the all everything softball player USA, one
of the best pitchers in the history of women's softball,
(15:37):
and now she's a mom. She's the mom of a
boy and a girl. The boys following the husband's role,
you know, baseball, but she's coaching her daughter's softball team.
And Lauren Chamberlain, who's one of the greatest softball players
in history from Oklahoma, NCAA home run champion, just an
incredible woman in her own right. She's our girls softball
ambassador on our Youthing platform. And Missy Franklin, the incredibly
(15:59):
decorated Olympic swimmer. And it's cool to talk to these
these individuals. And yes, it's fun to talk about Olympic
gold medals and it's fun to talk, but it's also
really really relevant, Like I want my daughter to hear
what was it like growing up as a young girl
who wanted to be a young girl and wanted to
be active and social and have a life, but also
took her sports serious. Like I want my daughter to
(16:21):
hear those stories. So these are just there's so many
really relatable stories for guys, girls, moms, dads, coaches, athletes
that we're conscious of. And this is not a football podcast,
this is not a men's podcast. This is we're parents,
we're you know, leaders in the community. We're trying to
raise stable and really good young girls and boys. Like
(16:42):
what can we do to better serve the community and
to help these kids navigate what's a very difficult journey,
which is the world of youth sports. And that was
not the case when I was growing up. It's vastly different.
And I think any of your listeners that I'm assuming
her parents are soon to be parents or have nephews
or nieces going through it, they're probably all out there
shaking their head like we get it, Like we're all
(17:04):
living this same kind of crazy youth sports journey.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And I think those are the stories too that I
wish and probably you wish that we had access to
growing up as well. That would have impacted the way
we had our careers. There are different ways that we
thought about youth sports too. I know you said that's
not a football podcast. I will say this is a
little bit of a football podcast, and as I said,
I'm a big football fan. We've heard you recently talk
(17:28):
about that you think that we're in the golden age
of tight ends. You think about Travis Kelce, George Kittle,
others making huge runs and kind of making a name
for the position in a really major way. Why do
you say that, What do you think makes this decade
separate from others.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And I think back to when I came into the NFL,
there was, you know, a handful of really prominent now
Hall of Fame tight ends, right, Antonio Gates just got
inducted a couple weeks ago in this past induction Hall
of Fame induction class. Tony Gonzalez is in the wh
Hall of Fame. Jason Witten will be in the Hall
of Fame. So like, these were all the guys that
I looked up to when I first got drafted in
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the league in two thousand and seven, there was a
third of the league, say had like a marquee, really
good guy. There was a couple guys a year that
could get a thousand yards, and then there was like
a really strong middle of the pack that were third
or fourth best players on their offense, third or fourth
best options. It seems like now that the vast majority,
if not almost every single team has a prominent player
(18:28):
at the tight end position. And I think there's a
lot of reasons for that. I think young kids are
growing up playing the position. It's not really the fallback anymore.
I wanted to be a receiver. I was too slow,
I wasn't big enough to be alignment. I used to
be a quarterback. Well, now just go play. You're a
good athlete, just go play tight end. These kids are
now growing up playing the position, and I think you
can see what that looks like growing up. The amount
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of people that are now saying, you know, it's cool,
I'm watching Travis Kelce. It would sit next to Taylor Swift.
I want to be a tight end, you know what
I mean. Like it's you know, George Kittle is one
of the biggest stars in the NFL. Like, it's cool
now to play the position, and you know, in years
past it was the quarterback, wide receiver and running backs
that kind of dominated. The tight ends now find themselves
(19:12):
in that class.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, it was cool to see Kittle part of the
Receiver Show on Netflix two. I really thought that it's
going to be wide receivers, but it was great to
see him involved in that. Speaking of Travis Kelce, you
all co founded tight End University, and I feel like
that has also made a big impact on how people
think about the tight end rule. Again from a fan perspective,
but also from a player perspective. He's obviously had a
(19:34):
big week. Do you talk to him at all, or
would you do? Have you given him any advice of
like balancing dating probably the most famous person in the world,
and then also having to go out there any given
Sunday and show up as he normally would as a chief,
even the way that he was five years ago.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What's that been like for you, guys, Well, it's definitely
not like it was five years ago. When we started TEU.
Five years ago, we could go sit at a bar
in Nashville after a day of practice and just go
about our business, our trip. Our trip to the bar
in Nashville was a little bit different when we had
Travis and Taylor in tow this year as we're at
Al Dean's try to have a cocktail after a late
(20:13):
night hanging out. So it was definitely a little bit
different than five years ago. But I'll tell you it's
I've gotten to know him well, I've gotten to know
him personally, spend some time with him a couple different
times this summer, obviously, TEU being one, spend some time golfing,
just hanging out the two of us, and it was
really cool to just be around him and be around
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Taylor and just be around in a normal, a normal environment.
That they're just fun, easy people. They make you feel
very warm, They make you feel like they genuinely care
because they do like And I think that was the
thing that really stuck out the most is she genuinely
was interested in everybody that was there and was just
there to hang out and be not one of the guys,
but like be one of the crew, right, like just
be a part of it. And it was so it
(20:55):
was such a breadth of fresh air. And Travis is
just that guy. And whether he's on the cover of
GQ or he's interviewing the most famous person in the
world or dating or or whatever, it is, like when
you're hanging around with him, he's just a regular old dude.
He's just a regular guy that wants to talk about
how are your kids doing. He wants to play golf,
he wants to have a beer, and he wants to
just hang And there's something very charming and something very
(21:18):
relatable in that regard. And you know, I couldn't everything
he gets. He deserves all of it and more, and
I couldn't be happier for all the success that he's having.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I love it. You touched on GQ obviously in that
fashion element in Taylor Swift, And it feels like right
now in the NFL, we're really seeing it kind of
trickle into pop culture a lot more. We're seeing Christian Huschek,
We're seeing some own Biles, We're seeing a lot more
people leveraging memes and celebrity in a different way, and
there's a lot more fans kind of entering the space.
(21:50):
How do you feel about all of this reshaping fandom?
How does it change your job and how you're thinking
about who you're speaking to. What do you think the
future of the NFL is kind of looking like from
a fan perspective.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'll tell you, I think it's a great question, because
this is something that we're constantly reminding ourselves now in
the broadcast world, right in the media world. And we
called the first game that Taylor came to, we actually
were there. We broadcast the game, and we're the first
broadcast that showed her. So like I felt, I actually
said it on air, it felt like we were at
(22:21):
like the you know, like the American Royal wedding, like
that was like a big, like grand reveal, And he's
running out of the tunnel shoot and arrows and we're
panning there. It was like a it was a game
that none of them. I don't even know who won.
I think I think this Chiefs won, but I don't
know who they.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It doesn't Taylor Swift one, it does.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
But you know, we're constantly reminded about just to your
and the way you phrase it is perfect like the
reshaping of the traditional NFL fans. It's not just a
bunch of old men sitting in the bar yelling at
their TV anymore. Right, It's both a more sophisticated, knowledgeable
fan base people are, you know, between fantasy football and
the amount of media that covers it from all angles,
(23:01):
people are a lot more informed and a lot more
educated and have a lot more understanding of what's going
on on game day and all the storylines that lead
up to kickoff. On a weekly basis. People are following
it in a twenty four hour news cycle, more so
than at any time in history. But then there's also
the look of the fan. And I actually was at
the Fox, you know, our Fox seminar or the NFL
(23:21):
gives a big kind of report to the network to
just say, hey, here's where our audience is growing, here's
where and at the top of every list is women,
and women are watching the game. Women are They're not
just watching it as passive bystanders, like socially maybe like
they were ten years ago. Like they are passionate, active,
(23:42):
engaged football fans. And I think that's super cool, right,
So there's so many more ways to engage with them,
there's so many more ways to present the game. We
know that the people tuning in to a game is
a very different cross section of NFL fans than it's
ever been, and we need to speak to all of them.
And again, we don't things down. We're not oh, this
is a girl we got. Women are just as educated
(24:05):
in the game of football. My wife can watch a
football game better than most of my buddies and have
a really good understanding. She doesn't want to be talked
down to. She doesn't want to assume that, you know,
she's got to be catered to, like and that's how
I feel like the fans of the NFL have grown.
And I think that's so cool for the game. I
think it's great for young girls. Now my daughter wants
to watch Chiefs games Like that sounds like it's made up,
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but like that's real. My twelve year old daughter. She's
a fan of the Chiefs and she knows Travis Kelcey
and maybe not anyone else, but if the Chiefs are on,
she's watching like that is so good of the game.
I hate that, you know, the people that complain and
it's too much, like they should just take their ball
and go home. Because the game is changing, the audience
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is changing, and we should embrace it and appreciate it
and love. The more people that watch, the better for
all of us. And I just feel strongly about that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And it's so important for our society too, because we
also know when girls place sorts when they're sports fans,
what it does for their self esteem, what it does
for them being future leaders across corporations and different aspects
of our world. So it's so important and we need
more people like you out there. I want to dig
into some of the other storylines for this season. What
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do you think is the most underdiscussed storyline heading into September.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Wow, that's a great question. I mean, there's probably a
lot of ways that you can take it, you know,
I think on a macro level, kind of staying with
where we just were about the evolution of the game
and where it's going. You know, I don't think you
can we can talk enough about on a just a
league wide system basis. Is like this game is becoming
a global sport, right, Like I'm going to call a
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game in Dublin this year. There's another game in Madrid,
There's multiple games in London. There's a game to kick
off in the opening Friday game. Is it in Brazil again? Yep?
I think it will be.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
A riot though. That's gonna I think that's going to
be the most fun.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Oh my god, We're going to go to Dublin, Ireland.
That's my wife's birthday that weekend, so we're gonna take
the kids. Yeah, it's gonna be great. So, like my
point is like that is a sea Now. Football is
always for the next while. It's going to be a
domestic sport. It's an American driven sport and that's just
the nature of the roots. But it is becoming much
more of a global game. And I think it's being
leaned into by the NFL, by the media companies and
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all the networks and broadcasts so on a on a
macro level, that's who we're serving, right, We're serving this
global fan and it's good for business, and ultimately that's
what drives decisions. I get it on a on a
micro level, right, it always turns down to like who
are the who's going to be the new kids on
the block, Like who the Mahomes and Josh Allen And
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you know, obviously Philadelphia has been they've been had their crack.
Now they've won one, they've lost one. Like who's going
to be that next team to like pop in and say, okay,
we're going to Now it's not going to be Philly
every couple of years in the Super Bowl, Kansas City
every year in the Super Bowl? Like who's ready to
knock them out? Is it Buffalo? Is it Baltimore? In
the AFC and the NFC, who's that next upstart team?
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Can the Rams get it figured out? Can can Dallas
find their way? So I think it's we've had The
league has been dominated by a handful of teams for
the last couple of years in both conferences, and that's
really in spite of the way the league is designed.
It's designed for the bad teams to regress in the
good teams to improve. I would like to see who
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that next team that kind of comes out of nowhere
and says, Okay, you know what, we're going to unsee
Kansas City. We're going to be the next NFC force
because going into the last two or three years, you
pretty much knew who the best teams in each conference.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Were, which is interesting too with so much player movement
as well that it has been so consistent with those
same teams, so that is really interesting. We only have
a few minutes left together, so I want to wrap
up with some fun stuff. Yeah, if you could make
up one player from any era and hear their thought
process during a game, who would that be?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Oh my gosh, there's some characters now, so we could go,
like you could go the really fun route and go
just like who's gonna be? Just like Jeremy Shockey. I
think would be fascinating. He's one of the most fascinating, intense,
fun people that I've ever been around. I mean talking trash,
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competitive as hell in your face. He was really like
the first tight end that played with like that hair, long,
helmet off, yelling. It's like he kind of was like
Kittle before Kittle in a way. I think he'd be
a blast. I think ray Lewis probably talked the entire game,
and it was probably a combination of topics. We'll leave
(28:43):
it at that, you know, and then obviously you get
into like the quarterback role. I think it'd be really
cool to make up some of these quarterbacks from like
a serious football perspective, the dialogue, the communication on the
sideline with their coordinators, with their offensive lineman, the checks
at the line of scrimmage, how they command the like.
If we had a running broadcast of every word said
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by an NFL quarterback, I think it would be very insightful.
We'd have to probably have a pretty good editing button
if it's not an X rated channel, but it's I
think there's some really fun, interesting football insight that we
would get. If people could hear the amount of communication
going on throughout an entire game on the sidelines, I
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think they'd find it fascinating.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You have been in a lot of locker rooms in
your life. What's the stranger's pregame ritual you've ever witnessed,
or maybe you had your own weird pregame ritual.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, we had kind of a stupid ritual and I'm
not even really sure how it started. So we had
this idea that we walked in the locker room that
the shoulder pads needed to be warmed up, like we
needed to warm up the shoulder pads before we got it.
And I can't exactly remember who or how it started,
but we were in Carolina, so it really took on
a life of its own over the years. And like
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we'd walk in and you'd pick out like the random
quiet guy who was like off to his side, and
you'd be like, hey, Johnny, your shoulder pads don't look ready,
Like it looks like they need to be warmed up.
And you would just like grab guys shoulder pads and
like throw them across the room, throw them into the wall. Thankfully,
nobody was in the shoulder pads, but like some of
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them had the shoulder pads like their jerseys on top.
So like you would throw their shoulder pads like some
guys would get mad, then some guys would love it,
and then they and next thing, you know, like guys
would be warming up their shoulder pads by like throwing
them and smashing them on the ground and throwing them
into the wall. And it it went from like one
or two guys like playfully doing it to like a
(30:38):
locker room full of just pat it was. It was
very stupid. What you will find in an NFL locker
room is things that in the moment are like fun
and interesting, you then look back on and like reflection
and you're like, we are so stupid, like every every
stereotype of these silly boys that like I get on
(31:00):
my like thirteen year old sons for being silly. It
never changes. It's the same, except we were thirty married
with three kids, still acting dumb in the locker room.
So that's the beauty of it all, and that's the
fun of it all. And those are the things that
you remember. But my middle school football team, the silly
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things that all those boys do really is no different
than the silly things the older guys do in the
locker room. Just the ages change.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Thank you for that insight. It's very fascinating, especially from
my angle. Last question, if you had to frame one
single play from your career on your living room wall again,
maybe you do have this frame on your living room wall,
which play would you choose and why?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's a great question. I'm between two. So probably my
first ever NFL touchdown was Sunday Night Football. I was
with the Bears, my rookie year in Green Bay, Green
Bay Packers Chicago Bears rivalry. John Madden's calling the game primetime, Lambeau,
Brett Farve's the quarterback. I mean, all the stuff you
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could imagine. And I'd gotten off to a slow start
my rookie year. I'd gotten injured. I missed the first
two games, so this was like my second game back,
so I think it was a week four and you know,
obviously huge moment lay that out. Brianer Lacker recovered a
fumble on like the thirty yard line, give or take,
going in like the short way and first down. I
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ran a wheel route on the left side, caught it,
got knocked out of bounds. Back then there was like
a force out rule that has since been changed. John
Madden's broadcasting the game. Just really cool moment to like
get your first touchdown in Lambeau and all that. And
then my probably second moment that comes to mind our
Super Bowl year of twenty fifteen. We could not beat Seattle.
(32:52):
They were the NFC team that everybody was chasing. This
was like thirteen fourteen fifteen time period. So this fifteen
season and we were undefeated. We went up to Seattle,
huge game, and we went on a two minute drive
and I caught a touchdown from Cam I don't know
with thirty thirty seconds to a minute like somewhere, I
(33:14):
don't remember exactly how much time, but not much time
left on the clock, and we came from behind on
a big touchdown on the road against what was one
of the best teams in the league, and that game
really propelled our Super Bowl year. We ended up going
we were seventeen and one or seventeen and one going
into the Super Bowl, and obviously we lost, but it
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was an incredible year and that play symbolized just a
lot of years and a lot of work to try
to climb that mountain, and then obviously to beat a
team as good as Seattle in Seattle was a pretty
big moment that propelled us the rest of that season.
So I'm probably between those two moments individual plays. But
(33:54):
sorry to answer your question directly, No, those are great.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I have shivers. Those are both very cool. Thank you
so much for sharing, and thank you Greg so much
for coming on the podcast. Congrats again with everything with
you think and really excited for our audience to check
it out.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Thank you so much. This was awesome. Appreciate you having
me all right.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Thank you all so much for tuning in. I hope
that you enjoyed that convo with Greg.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And Greg This is an open invitation, especially from Ellen,
to come back to the Just of It anytime, and
for our gisters, please visit youth inc dot com to
learn more about this phenomenal digital platform that's revolutionizing youth sports.
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It's time for our Personal Training Sash. This is where
we'll answer your hearting questions about anything, and we mean
anything in the sports world.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Will also platform.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Anything you want us to talk about, commentary, etc. We're
really just looking forward to having a conversation with you
guys out there.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
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I'm Ellen ethagist Steph is at Sephanie Rutts. But in
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today's Personal Training Sash, we are taking a question from
Vanessa shut up. Vanessa who DMed us on Instagram. We
love a DM message and she said hello, first of all,
love the pod and the just as a whole. And
we didn't pay her to say that. I'm so newish
to the pod, but I haven't heard you gals discuss
beach volleyball. Don't sleep on this growing sport. The AVP
(35:40):
started a league last year, so there's now finally a
way to follow and watch this sport through league play
rather than just tournaments and the Olympics. Not to mention
Canadian women mel and Brandy, who are kicking ass as
the only non American pair in the league. They also
just won the Elite sixteen International tournament in Montreal. It
is a super exciting time for the sport. Thank you
(36:04):
so much Vanessa for dming us and submitting this so exciting.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
There's so many sports, which is an amazing What an
amazing problem to have is the fact that we have
women competing at a high level in so many sports,
to the point where we have trouble even covering all
of it. So we really appreciate gisters flagging things and
letting us know too what you want to hear more
about so beach volleyball being one of them.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, and I feel like we need to double click
on that, especially because it's showing that you are interested.
And for those of you who don't know Melan Brandy,
I love how Vanessa Short formed like Okay, your besties.
Melissa Humana Peretz has been a long time friend of
the Gist of It. We've known her since I want
to say, like twenty eighteen when we literally started the
(36:47):
GIST and she's worked with us in the early day.
She's amazing. And Brandy Wilkerson. They won the Montreal Elite
sixteen beach volleyball title on Sunday, and you might know
them if you're not familiar with them. They the silver
medal in Paris, losing to Brazil, and they were the
ones who got into that heated moment kind of under
(37:08):
the net with the Brazilian duo and the DJ. When
they were getting into this heated kind of moment and
having words back and forth, the DJ played, Oh my god,
what was that Beatles song?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Like peace or whatever, something about being friends or something, and.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It was like and it just basically took all of
the energy, all of the tension out of the state,
what is that song, Steff.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's so you're the worst people to remember anything, some
sort of beatles like World's Peace, Like, I don't know,
it's something the peace. We got to look at someone
out there is listening, screaming at it, literally screaming.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
At us, being like, girls, get your shit together. And
I think, to Vanessa's point, like we do have a
tendency to follow sports like beach volleyball only around the Olympics,
get really into the Olympics, and then kind of forget
about it. But what's really cool is that you can
watch a lot of these matches on VBTV and we've
(38:05):
linked their subscription plans and the show notes if you're
interested in this. I also think that in the US,
I on and scripts cover some specific AVP tournaments on
both the men's side and the women's side, which is
really cool. I also want to call out and I
know that this isn't beach volleyball, but indoor volleyball is
(38:27):
having its moment right now. There has been so many
new professional leagues coming up. We've covered this on the
podcast beforehand, but right now, in women's volleyball, we have
au Volleyball, we have PVF. We have League one Volleyball,
AU Volleyball is taking place in October, League one Volleyball
and PDF take place in the new year, and every
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single one of those leagues features some of the best
players in the world, both from the US but also internationally,
and the majority of the American volleyball team. So Team
USA plays in a volleyball as well as I believe
League one volleyball. So the volleyball is tremendous. And then
(39:11):
the other thing that I'll say and then I'll stop talking,
but volleyball in college is outstanding, Like NC DOUBLEA volleyball
is unreal, and so we talk. I think a little
bit more though about that indoor volleyball, and like Nebraska
in college in those three leagues, but this summer we'll
talk more about the beach volleyball.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
What I remember from the Paris Olympics is melon brandy.
I was obsessed with them. I never really like saw
myself like jumping off my couch screaming LFG at a
volleyball match before and it was so much fun and
I'm so converted. And then immediately too, I wanted to
buy their swimsuits.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I was like, whatever, they're wearing. I want to buy that.
Whatever they're wearing, let's buy. Also, though, when you watch
beach volleyball, are you not exhausted? Oh yeah, exhausted on
the beach so exactly when you get to being over
thirty and you walk on a beach, you go, oh
my god, you walk on a beach for thirty minutes
and you feel like you've literally ran a marathon. And
then you see them diving in the beach and Melissa
(40:10):
Humana Perettas on her socials, She'll she'll show them behind
the scenes of her training. They're built different. It's incredible
just how strong their core is, their glutes are, and
obviously what their arms have to do too in volleyball.
It's they're incredibly well rounded athletes.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I would not want to be an Implies class with them.
It would be just so embarrassing for me.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Get the shakes and on that relatable, poignant point that
marks mean in today's episode, thank y'all so much for
tuning in. We'll be in your feed with the new
podcast on Thursday. But in the meantime, you know the
drill rate, review, Subscribe, Share with a friend.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
This episode was edited by Savannah held and produced by
Alessandra Puccio and Lauren Tuscala. Again, I'm Steph
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Rots and I'm Ellen Hislop, and we will chat with
you soon
What's up, just seners. Is that time of the week again.
We are back with another episode of The Gist of It.
Today is Tuesday, August nineteenth. We're your co hosts.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Ellen Hyslop and I'm Steph Rotts, and I am
very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I feel, like I said as the beginning of every episode,
I'm very excited for today's episode. But when I tell
you I'm so excited for today's episode, it's because it's
on a beloved topic of mine, and that is because
we are talking about for our one Big Story. We
of course have two other segments as well, but for
our one big story, we are talking about the NFL,
(00:42):
and we're not just talking about the NFL. I had
the opportunity to sit down with NFL analyst and former
tight end Greg Olsen and to paint the picture a
little bit more on Greg Olsen. He is a big deal.
To painted, he's a big deal, and he reached out
to us and was like do you want to be
(01:03):
like can can I come on the Gist of It?
And we were like, you literally call NFL games on
Fox Sports on Sundays, speaking to millions of people that
are tuning in and you want to come on the
gist of it, let's go. And part of the reason
why he wanted to come on the gist of it
is that because now that he's a dad, he's created
this new company that's all about how to get kids
(01:25):
more involved with youth sports, how to get more girls
involved in youth sports, how parents can navigate the system.
But then, of course, because of what he does and
who he is, we had an opportunity to talk about
the NFL kind of at large and like chat with
him about what he sees for this upcoming season, what
he's thinking about changing in fandom, and like how that's
(01:47):
also impacted his job as an analyst. And then he's
also friends with Travis Kelce, so obviously we had to
be like, okay, give us the tea on Taylor and Travis.
So the timing, as much as it feels like an
early preview for the NFL, it is the preseason right now.
It feels like we talked about some topical things. Obviously
last week I had the opportunity to chat with him,
(02:08):
and everything came out with Taylor Swift and Travis. So
even if you don't know Greg Golson, you've probably heard
his voice before somehow being associated with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What I like to when we have different guests on
the podcast is having the variety, Like we've had people
from the business side of sports, now we have an
analyst athletes. It's so fascinating to have all these different
people involved in giving us their stories.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes, totally, and I feel like too, this is it
kind of speaks to different types of fandom. And having
a guy come on the podcast about like, we haven't
had a guy come on the pod in a while.
Why is a man here? I was like, WHOA, Welcome
to the gist of it, and we had a really
great conversation though even about that, so like it was
a really cool and interesting and probably different conversation than
(02:56):
what we're used to. So we hope that you all
enjoy it and that you tune in. But there are
a couple of things obviously with personal training Sash later
in the podcast, but also I know, Steph, there was
something really important that you wanted to talk about today.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, so I would love to take today's calling an
audible speaking about the NFL one of my favorite podcasts.
I love the work that they do and I appreciate
the work they do. They're always a really long form,
so they're great for long drives. So it's called End
of Sport. It's an academic, folks focused podcasts intersecting with sports.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So it's just right up my alley. But they really
it's step.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
They released an episode recently that I took took this
past weekend to listen to that I really wanted to
talk about today and really wanted to call anaudible about.
So the episode was called On Athletic Side and it
examined the destruction Can you say that again?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
On athletic Side is what it's called On Athletic Side? Yeah, okay,
So like, okay, I see what you mean. A play
on words there, it's a play.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's a combination of two words. Yeah, okay, And it
really they took an hour and they examined the destruction
of athletes, athletics, athletic infrastructure in Palestine and really introduced
me to the concept of athleticide.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Just really talked.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
About how an entire generation of athletes, future athletes, have
just been wiped out from Palestine and how it's being
used as a pattern of.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Cultural and social erasure through sports.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So how sport really does tie so closely with identity
and with a cultural and a political landscape. So how
important it is because we all know that, that's why
we listen to this podcast and do this podcast. We
all know how important sport is. And in that episode
they mentioned that Halifax, which is a Canadian city on
the East Coast, will host the Davis Cup International Tennis
(04:49):
match between Team Canada and Israel at the Scotia Bank
Center this upcoming September twelve through thirteen. And the Davis
Cup is very well known in the world world of tennis,
It's the World Cup of ten and so I googled
the event after I listened to the podcast and found
an article entitled Israel is trying to sports wash with
its genocide with Canada as hosts, and it was written
(05:10):
by poet Lauriate L. Jones, Canadian East Coaster, so really
calling for Israel to be banned internationally in the same
way that Russia has and we all know Russia has
been banned from competing in competitions back to twenty twenty
four the Olympics. They weren't allowed to compete under the
title of Russia because of their unprovoked war on Ukraine.
(05:30):
And Israel has not been banned from any international competitions yet,
and I think it is becoming increasingly clear what is
going on in Gaza in the West Bank. And at
the time of recording, a group of four hundred and
thirteen Canadian and Canadian based scholars, athletes, olympians, journalists would
have you, have signed a public letter calling on the
(05:52):
cancelation of the Davis Cup match between Team Canada and
Team Israel. And the tennis community has previously taken action
before they mentioned this in the letter. So of course
Russia has been banned from tennis matches, and back in
nineteen seventy South Africa was banned from the Davis Cup
for their apartheid era policies. And I'm just really interested
(06:12):
to see what's gonna come of this. It is a
lot of well known names are on it, and I
would love to see more well known names on it.
And I just between this podcast, this article, and this letter,
there is really more of a calling, I would say,
happening right now for the sports community to really step
up and be a part of this conversation. So the
Davis Cup is scheduled on September twelfth and thirteenth in Canada.
(06:34):
So interesting to see how that letter and how the
pressure on the ground really affects that event.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Thanks so much for sharing all of this stuff and
just repeating one more time for those of you who
are wanting to dig deep. The podcast is called End
of Sport in the episode that Steph is talking about
is on athletic side.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
All Right, it's time for Allen's conversation with former NFL
tight end and current NFL on Fox color commentator Greg Olsen,
who's also the founder of Youth Inc. A digital platform
to help fellow parents and community members enrich the world
of youth sports.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Which is so important. We've talked about it so many
times about how sports really are magic when youth are
able to play them and when they continue to play
them throughout their teenage years as well. So in today's
episode we kind of already highlighted it, but we're going
to talk about you think and why you might find
it interesting, whether you have kids, if you're liking of
having kids, if you want to get involved as a volunteer,
(07:37):
what have you. Why Greg thinks we're in the golden
age of NFL tight ends. That was a little bit nerdy,
but I really enjoyed that conversation. And then we get
into some more of the like off fields kind of
side of the game. We talked about fashion, we talked
about culture, we talked about female fandom, we talked about
the impacts of Taylor and Travis. So I felt like
(07:58):
it was a well rounded convo. I'm biased. I had
a lot of fun. Okay, let's listen. Okay, Greg, thank
you so much for joining the gist of it today.
We're so excited to have you here.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, thanks for having me. This is gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh my gosh. Of course, there's a lot of things
on the agenda. We have a lot of things happening
in your life, a lot of things happening in pop culture,
a lot of things about to happen slash still happening
in the NFL right now, and I want to get
into all of it with you, I think. Most importantly, though,
I want to chat about your company, you think, and
I know that our gisters are going to love it.
(08:35):
So I'm hoping you can explain in your own words
what you're doing, what inspired you to start it, and
all of that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, So it really was originally started as a passion
project of mine about two or three years ago. I'm
the father of three young kids. I have two sons,
I have a daughter. I grew up the son of
a high school football coach, so I lived in the
world of sports from the time I was a baby
all the way now to as a parent in my
post retirement now dad and youth sports coach life. After
(09:07):
I retired and I found myself, my wife and I
would be laying in bed at night and we'd be like,
I don't know if we're doing this right, Like are
we on the right team? Are we doing is it
too much? Is it not enough? Are the kids working
hard enough? Are we keeping the right developmental checklist?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
What in this world where there's so many decisions on
where to play and how to play and what to
do and what not to do. We felt like if
we didn't have all the answers with the experience that
I had, then there's probably millions of people around the
country that are all swimming in the same kind of world.
So we started having these conversations that you think started
building the content page around having really fascinating conversations with
(09:43):
athletes like Tom Brady and coaches like Ryan Day, you
know of the Ohio State national championship football team, Malcolm
Gladwell that you know, the world renowned author. I sat
down with him. He's going to be an episode here
in the next week or so, you know, with his
work with outliers and talking to strangers and David and Glyde,
some of his pioneering work that he's done on a
lot of these topics. And we just feel like we
(10:05):
can really be a cool resource. And I'm the first
to admit as the host quote unquote of our pod,
like I don't have any of the answers either. So
like here I am going along the journey with our
listeners saying, hey, we all are in the same boat.
Let's go out and ask really smart people with really
unique perspectives, and let's get a better picture. And so
that's one side of the company. And then there's a
commerce side, right, Like I see you're wearing a San
(10:27):
Francisco forty nine or shirt. It's really easy to find
a San Francisco forty nine or shirt or a Carolina
Panther Dallas Cowboys online licensed, but you can't wear it
if it's your kid's middle school football team or their
travel ball club or their volleyball team. It's a little
bit harder to get curated youth sports team wear and
merch and whatnot. So the economic commerce side of our
(10:50):
platform is to try to improve that experience for parents, coaches,
kids that we always say, every mom's favorite team in
the world is the one their son or daughter plays on.
So why are they not wearing their middle school, high
school travel soccer club? Why are they not wearing really
cool gear, really premium brands, but with the team that
they probably care the most about, and we're seeking that.
(11:12):
We're kind of setting out to try to address that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's so cool. Congratulations on everything that you're doing there.
It feels so needed, especially in this world where as
you said, there's so many different decisions, there's so many
different complications, and I feel like sports fandom is very localized,
but then when you think about youth sports, that's something
that's even more localized. How are you kind of navigating
all that when you're starting this national brand but you're
(11:38):
also kind of working at these grassroots levels.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, it's challenging, right because instead of there being thirty
two NFL teams and thirty NBA teams and you know, obviously,
college is a little big of a scale, you know,
with you know, hundreds and hundreds of colleges. But in
the world of youth sports and travel clubs and organizations
and schools, there's thousands and thousands and thousands of unique teams,
(12:03):
unique schools and whatnot. So it's a little bit of
a different animal, but it's one that we've really enjoyed.
I mean, we're gonna when we launched last week with hundreds,
if not thousands of schools, their logos all uplifted. You
can go there right now to youth dot, Inc. And
get your favorite hoodie, your favorite sweater, your favorite half
quarter zip, your favorite polo, whatever it is, sweats, all
(12:24):
the gear that we have on and you can get
it customized, drop shipped right to you with your school,
travel ball, whatever is your desire. So we're really excited
about it. It is a grassroots It is kind of
a you know, local hometown. You want to wear your
school team with pride on a Friday night or a
Saturday morning. But we also think that's kind of the
beauty of it all to to really be able to
(12:47):
walk around wear clothes and brands that you're accustomed to
wearing and all of a sudden, now it actually is
your favorite team because it's your kids team.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So smart, I love it. And let's talk about your
podcast too. Your first guest of the season was Tom Brady.
Him a couple times already, you guys did address the
elephant in the room about him stepping into that Fox role.
How did you prepare for that face to face moment?
What was it like kind of chatting with him, especially
with both of you being dads in this football world too.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, So Tom and I have gotten to know each
other over the last you know, twelve to eighteen months,
more so post retirement. We knew each other when we
were playing and would cross pats and say a hell
before and after games, but it wasn't really a personal
relationship at that point. We've gotten to know each other
better since we both now worked at Fox for the
last you know, call it two years at year and
a half, and we've just really gotten to know each
(13:37):
other just as friends, as dads, as parents, and you know,
we're both raising teenage girls that are like the exact
same age. So here we are sitting around and everyone's
assuming we're talking about football and schemes and we're like, dude,
I got a twelve year old daughter at home and like,
oh my god, the things I never imagine. And Tom
grew up with sisters. He had all sisters. I grew
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up with all boys, and like, we didn't have We
had one girl in the house and it was my mom.
So this is a little bit of uncharted territory for me.
But it's awesome and those are the conversations that matter.
We talked a lot about it on the pod that
dropped for our kind of kickoff show. And you know,
again between his personal story growing up with sisters, growing
(14:19):
up and dealing with some early adversity as an athlete,
and then obviously his career and what unfolded from college
and beyond. Obviously he is pretty u people are pretty
familiar with. So he was a great first guest. We've
got to know each other. I was for you know,
we're just really blessed that he was willing to do
it and spend so much time with us, And uh,
I think it was a really good way to kind
(14:40):
of relaunch our you think mission, and uh, we're excited
about the guys, you know, the different people we have
coming down the list, you know down the road.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I'm really excited too. And I think What's so
cool about that conversation, and I'm hoping some conversations to
come as well, is that sometimes when you speak to
an nfler or a broadcaster like yourself, it can be
a little bit unrelatable for fans like us. But when
you're thinking and speaking of yourself like a dad and
what it means to change things at the U side,
that content becomes so much more relatable from a fan
(15:11):
side as well. Give us a little bit of a
sneak peek of what else we can expect this season
on the pod.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, it's so true because I think everyone assumes, all, right,
here's this football player and he's just going to interview
a bunch of dudes and they're going to talk about
football and how many Super Bowls everybody won and just
tell the same story. And some of our best interviews
that we've had, you know, I've sat down with Jenny Finch,
the you know, the all everything softball player USA, one
of the best pitchers in the history of women's softball,
(15:37):
and now she's a mom. She's the mom of a
boy and a girl. The boys following the husband's role,
you know, baseball, but she's coaching her daughter's softball team.
And Lauren Chamberlain, who's one of the greatest softball players
in history from Oklahoma, NCAA home run champion, just an
incredible woman in her own right. She's our girls softball
ambassador on our Youthing platform. And Missy Franklin, the incredibly
(15:59):
decorated Olympic swimmer. And it's cool to talk to these
these individuals. And yes, it's fun to talk about Olympic
gold medals and it's fun to talk, but it's also
really really relevant, Like I want my daughter to hear
what was it like growing up as a young girl
who wanted to be a young girl and wanted to
be active and social and have a life, but also
took her sports serious. Like I want my daughter to
(16:21):
hear those stories. So these are just there's so many
really relatable stories for guys, girls, moms, dads, coaches, athletes
that we're conscious of. And this is not a football podcast,
this is not a men's podcast. This is we're parents,
we're you know, leaders in the community. We're trying to
raise stable and really good young girls and boys. Like
(16:42):
what can we do to better serve the community and
to help these kids navigate what's a very difficult journey,
which is the world of youth sports. And that was
not the case when I was growing up. It's vastly different.
And I think any of your listeners that I'm assuming
her parents are soon to be parents or have nephews
or nieces going through it, they're probably all out there
shaking their head like we get it, Like we're all
(17:04):
living this same kind of crazy youth sports journey.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And I think those are the stories too that I
wish and probably you wish that we had access to
growing up as well. That would have impacted the way
we had our careers. There are different ways that we
thought about youth sports too. I know you said that's
not a football podcast. I will say this is a
little bit of a football podcast, and as I said,
I'm a big football fan. We've heard you recently talk
(17:28):
about that you think that we're in the golden age
of tight ends. You think about Travis Kelce, George Kittle,
others making huge runs and kind of making a name
for the position in a really major way. Why do
you say that, What do you think makes this decade
separate from others.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And I think back to when I came into the NFL,
there was, you know, a handful of really prominent now
Hall of Fame tight ends, right, Antonio Gates just got
inducted a couple weeks ago in this past induction Hall
of Fame induction class. Tony Gonzalez is in the wh
Hall of Fame. Jason Witten will be in the Hall
of Fame. So like, these were all the guys that
I looked up to when I first got drafted in
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the league in two thousand and seven, there was a
third of the league, say had like a marquee, really
good guy. There was a couple guys a year that
could get a thousand yards, and then there was like
a really strong middle of the pack that were third
or fourth best players on their offense, third or fourth
best options. It seems like now that the vast majority,
if not almost every single team has a prominent player
(18:28):
at the tight end position. And I think there's a
lot of reasons for that. I think young kids are
growing up playing the position. It's not really the fallback anymore.
I wanted to be a receiver. I was too slow,
I wasn't big enough to be alignment. I used to
be a quarterback. Well, now just go play. You're a
good athlete, just go play tight end. These kids are
now growing up playing the position, and I think you
can see what that looks like growing up. The amount
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of people that are now saying, you know, it's cool,
I'm watching Travis Kelce. It would sit next to Taylor Swift.
I want to be a tight end, you know what
I mean. Like it's you know, George Kittle is one
of the biggest stars in the NFL. Like, it's cool
now to play the position, and you know, in years
past it was the quarterback, wide receiver and running backs
that kind of dominated. The tight ends now find themselves
(19:12):
in that class.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, it was cool to see Kittle part of the
Receiver Show on Netflix two. I really thought that it's
going to be wide receivers, but it was great to
see him involved in that. Speaking of Travis Kelce, you
all co founded tight End University, and I feel like
that has also made a big impact on how people
think about the tight end rule. Again from a fan perspective,
but also from a player perspective. He's obviously had a
(19:34):
big week. Do you talk to him at all, or
would you do? Have you given him any advice of
like balancing dating probably the most famous person in the world,
and then also having to go out there any given
Sunday and show up as he normally would as a chief,
even the way that he was five years ago.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What's that been like for you, guys, Well, it's definitely
not like it was five years ago. When we started TEU.
Five years ago, we could go sit at a bar
in Nashville after a day of practice and just go
about our business, our trip. Our trip to the bar
in Nashville was a little bit different when we had
Travis and Taylor in tow this year as we're at
Al Dean's try to have a cocktail after a late
(20:13):
night hanging out. So it was definitely a little bit
different than five years ago. But I'll tell you it's
I've gotten to know him well, I've gotten to know
him personally, spend some time with him a couple different
times this summer, obviously, TEU being one, spend some time golfing,
just hanging out the two of us, and it was
really cool to just be around him and be around
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Taylor and just be around in a normal, a normal environment.
That they're just fun, easy people. They make you feel
very warm, They make you feel like they genuinely care
because they do like And I think that was the
thing that really stuck out the most is she genuinely
was interested in everybody that was there and was just
there to hang out and be not one of the guys,
but like be one of the crew, right, like just
be a part of it. And it was so it
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was such a breadth of fresh air. And Travis is
just that guy. And whether he's on the cover of
GQ or he's interviewing the most famous person in the
world or dating or or whatever, it is, like when
you're hanging around with him, he's just a regular old dude.
He's just a regular guy that wants to talk about
how are your kids doing. He wants to play golf,
he wants to have a beer, and he wants to
just hang And there's something very charming and something very
(21:18):
relatable in that regard. And you know, I couldn't everything
he gets. He deserves all of it and more, and
I couldn't be happier for all the success that he's having.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I love it. You touched on GQ obviously in that
fashion element in Taylor Swift, And it feels like right
now in the NFL, we're really seeing it kind of
trickle into pop culture a lot more. We're seeing Christian Huschek,
We're seeing some own Biles, We're seeing a lot more
people leveraging memes and celebrity in a different way, and
there's a lot more fans kind of entering the space.
(21:50):
How do you feel about all of this reshaping fandom?
How does it change your job and how you're thinking
about who you're speaking to. What do you think the
future of the NFL is kind of looking like from
a fan perspective.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'll tell you, I think it's a great question, because
this is something that we're constantly reminding ourselves now in
the broadcast world, right in the media world. And we
called the first game that Taylor came to, we actually
were there. We broadcast the game, and we're the first
broadcast that showed her. So like I felt, I actually
said it on air, it felt like we were at
(22:21):
like the you know, like the American Royal wedding, like
that was like a big, like grand reveal, And he's
running out of the tunnel shoot and arrows and we're
panning there. It was like a it was a game
that none of them. I don't even know who won.
I think I think this Chiefs won, but I don't
know who they.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It doesn't Taylor Swift one, it does.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
But you know, we're constantly reminded about just to your
and the way you phrase it is perfect like the
reshaping of the traditional NFL fans. It's not just a
bunch of old men sitting in the bar yelling at
their TV anymore. Right, It's both a more sophisticated, knowledgeable
fan base people are, you know, between fantasy football and
the amount of media that covers it from all angles,
(23:01):
people are a lot more informed and a lot more
educated and have a lot more understanding of what's going
on on game day and all the storylines that lead
up to kickoff. On a weekly basis. People are following
it in a twenty four hour news cycle, more so
than at any time in history. But then there's also
the look of the fan. And I actually was at
the Fox, you know, our Fox seminar or the NFL
(23:21):
gives a big kind of report to the network to
just say, hey, here's where our audience is growing, here's
where and at the top of every list is women,
and women are watching the game. Women are They're not
just watching it as passive bystanders, like socially maybe like
they were ten years ago. Like they are passionate, active,
(23:42):
engaged football fans. And I think that's super cool, right,
So there's so many more ways to engage with them,
there's so many more ways to present the game. We
know that the people tuning in to a game is
a very different cross section of NFL fans than it's
ever been, and we need to speak to all of them.
And again, we don't things down. We're not oh, this
is a girl we got. Women are just as educated
(24:05):
in the game of football. My wife can watch a
football game better than most of my buddies and have
a really good understanding. She doesn't want to be talked
down to. She doesn't want to assume that, you know,
she's got to be catered to, like and that's how
I feel like the fans of the NFL have grown.
And I think that's so cool for the game. I
think it's great for young girls. Now my daughter wants
to watch Chiefs games Like that sounds like it's made up,
(24:26):
but like that's real. My twelve year old daughter. She's
a fan of the Chiefs and she knows Travis Kelcey
and maybe not anyone else, but if the Chiefs are on,
she's watching like that is so good of the game.
I hate that, you know, the people that complain and
it's too much, like they should just take their ball
and go home. Because the game is changing, the audience
(24:46):
is changing, and we should embrace it and appreciate it
and love. The more people that watch, the better for
all of us. And I just feel strongly about that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And it's so important for our society too, because we
also know when girls place sorts when they're sports fans,
what it does for their self esteem, what it does
for them being future leaders across corporations and different aspects
of our world. So it's so important and we need
more people like you out there. I want to dig
into some of the other storylines for this season. What
(25:19):
do you think is the most underdiscussed storyline heading into September.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Wow, that's a great question. I mean, there's probably a
lot of ways that you can take it, you know,
I think on a macro level, kind of staying with
where we just were about the evolution of the game
and where it's going. You know, I don't think you
can we can talk enough about on a just a
league wide system basis. Is like this game is becoming
a global sport, right, Like I'm going to call a
(25:45):
game in Dublin this year. There's another game in Madrid,
There's multiple games in London. There's a game to kick
off in the opening Friday game. Is it in Brazil again? Yep?
I think it will be.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
A riot though. That's gonna I think that's going to
be the most fun.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Oh my god, We're going to go to Dublin, Ireland.
That's my wife's birthday that weekend, so we're gonna take
the kids. Yeah, it's gonna be great. So, like my
point is like that is a sea Now. Football is
always for the next while. It's going to be a
domestic sport. It's an American driven sport and that's just
the nature of the roots. But it is becoming much
more of a global game. And I think it's being
leaned into by the NFL, by the media companies and
(26:21):
all the networks and broadcasts so on a on a
macro level, that's who we're serving, right, We're serving this
global fan and it's good for business, and ultimately that's
what drives decisions. I get it on a on a
micro level, right, it always turns down to like who
are the who's going to be the new kids on
the block, Like who the Mahomes and Josh Allen And
(26:42):
you know, obviously Philadelphia has been they've been had their crack.
Now they've won one, they've lost one. Like who's going
to be that next team to like pop in and say, okay,
we're going to Now it's not going to be Philly
every couple of years in the Super Bowl, Kansas City
every year in the Super Bowl? Like who's ready to
knock them out? Is it Buffalo? Is it Baltimore? In
the AFC and the NFC, who's that next upstart team?
(27:04):
Can the Rams get it figured out? Can can Dallas
find their way? So I think it's we've had The
league has been dominated by a handful of teams for
the last couple of years in both conferences, and that's
really in spite of the way the league is designed.
It's designed for the bad teams to regress in the
good teams to improve. I would like to see who
(27:25):
that next team that kind of comes out of nowhere
and says, Okay, you know what, we're going to unsee
Kansas City. We're going to be the next NFC force
because going into the last two or three years, you
pretty much knew who the best teams in each conference.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Were, which is interesting too with so much player movement
as well that it has been so consistent with those
same teams, so that is really interesting. We only have
a few minutes left together, so I want to wrap
up with some fun stuff. Yeah, if you could make
up one player from any era and hear their thought
process during a game, who would that be?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Oh my gosh, there's some characters now, so we could go,
like you could go the really fun route and go
just like who's gonna be? Just like Jeremy Shockey. I
think would be fascinating. He's one of the most fascinating, intense,
fun people that I've ever been around. I mean talking trash,
(28:21):
competitive as hell in your face. He was really like
the first tight end that played with like that hair, long,
helmet off, yelling. It's like he kind of was like
Kittle before Kittle in a way. I think he'd be
a blast. I think ray Lewis probably talked the entire game,
and it was probably a combination of topics. We'll leave
(28:43):
it at that, you know, and then obviously you get
into like the quarterback role. I think it'd be really
cool to make up some of these quarterbacks from like
a serious football perspective, the dialogue, the communication on the
sideline with their coordinators, with their offensive lineman, the checks
at the line of scrimmage, how they command the like.
If we had a running broadcast of every word said
(29:04):
by an NFL quarterback, I think it would be very insightful.
We'd have to probably have a pretty good editing button
if it's not an X rated channel, but it's I
think there's some really fun, interesting football insight that we
would get. If people could hear the amount of communication
going on throughout an entire game on the sidelines, I
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think they'd find it fascinating.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You have been in a lot of locker rooms in
your life. What's the stranger's pregame ritual you've ever witnessed,
or maybe you had your own weird pregame ritual.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, we had kind of a stupid ritual and I'm
not even really sure how it started. So we had
this idea that we walked in the locker room that
the shoulder pads needed to be warmed up, like we
needed to warm up the shoulder pads before we got it.
And I can't exactly remember who or how it started,
but we were in Carolina, so it really took on
a life of its own over the years. And like
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we'd walk in and you'd pick out like the random
quiet guy who was like off to his side, and
you'd be like, hey, Johnny, your shoulder pads don't look ready,
Like it looks like they need to be warmed up.
And you would just like grab guys shoulder pads and
like throw them across the room, throw them into the wall. Thankfully,
nobody was in the shoulder pads, but like some of
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them had the shoulder pads like their jerseys on top.
So like you would throw their shoulder pads like some
guys would get mad, then some guys would love it,
and then they and next thing, you know, like guys
would be warming up their shoulder pads by like throwing
them and smashing them on the ground and throwing them
into the wall. And it it went from like one
or two guys like playfully doing it to like a
(30:38):
locker room full of just pat it was. It was
very stupid. What you will find in an NFL locker
room is things that in the moment are like fun
and interesting, you then look back on and like reflection
and you're like, we are so stupid, like every every
stereotype of these silly boys that like I get on
(31:00):
my like thirteen year old sons for being silly. It
never changes. It's the same, except we were thirty married
with three kids, still acting dumb in the locker room.
So that's the beauty of it all, and that's the
fun of it all. And those are the things that
you remember. But my middle school football team, the silly
(31:20):
things that all those boys do really is no different
than the silly things the older guys do in the
locker room. Just the ages change.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Thank you for that insight. It's very fascinating, especially from
my angle. Last question, if you had to frame one
single play from your career on your living room wall again,
maybe you do have this frame on your living room wall,
which play would you choose and why?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's a great question. I'm between two. So probably my
first ever NFL touchdown was Sunday Night Football. I was
with the Bears, my rookie year in Green Bay, Green
Bay Packers Chicago Bears rivalry. John Madden's calling the game primetime, Lambeau,
Brett Farve's the quarterback. I mean, all the stuff you
(32:08):
could imagine. And I'd gotten off to a slow start
my rookie year. I'd gotten injured. I missed the first
two games, so this was like my second game back,
so I think it was a week four and you know,
obviously huge moment lay that out. Brianer Lacker recovered a
fumble on like the thirty yard line, give or take,
going in like the short way and first down. I
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ran a wheel route on the left side, caught it,
got knocked out of bounds. Back then there was like
a force out rule that has since been changed. John
Madden's broadcasting the game. Just really cool moment to like
get your first touchdown in Lambeau and all that. And
then my probably second moment that comes to mind our
Super Bowl year of twenty fifteen. We could not beat Seattle.
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They were the NFC team that everybody was chasing. This
was like thirteen fourteen fifteen time period. So this fifteen
season and we were undefeated. We went up to Seattle,
huge game, and we went on a two minute drive
and I caught a touchdown from Cam I don't know
with thirty thirty seconds to a minute like somewhere, I
(33:14):
don't remember exactly how much time, but not much time
left on the clock, and we came from behind on
a big touchdown on the road against what was one
of the best teams in the league, and that game
really propelled our Super Bowl year. We ended up going
we were seventeen and one or seventeen and one going
into the Super Bowl, and obviously we lost, but it
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was an incredible year and that play symbolized just a
lot of years and a lot of work to try
to climb that mountain, and then obviously to beat a
team as good as Seattle in Seattle was a pretty
big moment that propelled us the rest of that season.
So I'm probably between those two moments individual plays. But
(33:54):
sorry to answer your question directly, No, those are great.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I have shivers. Those are both very cool. Thank you
so much for sharing, and thank you Greg so much
for coming on the podcast. Congrats again with everything with
you think and really excited for our audience to check
it out.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Thank you so much. This was awesome. Appreciate you having
me all right.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Thank you all so much for tuning in. I hope
that you enjoyed that convo with Greg.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And Greg This is an open invitation, especially from Ellen,
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beach volleyball. Don't sleep on this growing sport. The AVP
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started a league last year, so there's now finally a
way to follow and watch this sport through league play
rather than just tournaments and the Olympics. Not to mention
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Speaker 2 (36:07):
There's so many sports, which is an amazing What an
amazing problem to have is the fact that we have
women competing at a high level in so many sports,
to the point where we have trouble even covering all
of it. So we really appreciate gisters flagging things and
letting us know too what you want to hear more
about so beach volleyball being one of them.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, and I feel like we need to double click
on that, especially because it's showing that you are interested.
And for those of you who don't know Melan Brandy,
I love how Vanessa Short formed like Okay, your besties.
Melissa Humana Peretz has been a long time friend of
the Gist of It. We've known her since I want
to say, like twenty eighteen when we literally started the
(36:47):
GIST and she's worked with us in the early day.
She's amazing. And Brandy Wilkerson. They won the Montreal Elite
sixteen beach volleyball title on Sunday, and you might know
them if you're not familiar with them. They the silver
medal in Paris, losing to Brazil, and they were the
ones who got into that heated moment kind of under
(37:08):
the net with the Brazilian duo and the DJ. When
they were getting into this heated kind of moment and
having words back and forth, the DJ played, Oh my god,
what was that Beatles song?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Like peace or whatever, something about being friends or something, and.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It was like and it just basically took all of
the energy, all of the tension out of the state,
what is that song, Steff.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's so you're the worst people to remember anything, some
sort of beatles like World's Peace, Like, I don't know,
it's something the peace. We got to look at someone
out there is listening, screaming at it, literally screaming.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
At us, being like, girls, get your shit together. And
I think, to Vanessa's point, like we do have a
tendency to follow sports like beach volleyball only around the Olympics,
get really into the Olympics, and then kind of forget
about it. But what's really cool is that you can
watch a lot of these matches on VBTV and we've
(38:05):
linked their subscription plans and the show notes if you're
interested in this. I also think that in the US,
I on and scripts cover some specific AVP tournaments on
both the men's side and the women's side, which is
really cool. I also want to call out and I
know that this isn't beach volleyball, but indoor volleyball is
(38:27):
having its moment right now. There has been so many
new professional leagues coming up. We've covered this on the
podcast beforehand, but right now, in women's volleyball, we have
au Volleyball, we have PVF. We have League one Volleyball,
AU Volleyball is taking place in October, League one Volleyball
and PDF take place in the new year, and every
(38:49):
single one of those leagues features some of the best
players in the world, both from the US but also internationally,
and the majority of the American volleyball team. So Team
USA plays in a volleyball as well as I believe
League one volleyball. So the volleyball is tremendous. And then
(39:11):
the other thing that I'll say and then I'll stop talking,
but volleyball in college is outstanding, Like NC DOUBLEA volleyball
is unreal, and so we talk. I think a little
bit more though about that indoor volleyball, and like Nebraska
in college in those three leagues, but this summer we'll
talk more about the beach volleyball.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
What I remember from the Paris Olympics is melon brandy.
I was obsessed with them. I never really like saw
myself like jumping off my couch screaming LFG at a
volleyball match before and it was so much fun and
I'm so converted. And then immediately too, I wanted to
buy their swimsuits.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I was like, whatever, they're wearing. I want to buy that.
Whatever they're wearing, let's buy. Also, though, when you watch
beach volleyball, are you not exhausted? Oh yeah, exhausted on
the beach so exactly when you get to being over
thirty and you walk on a beach, you go, oh
my god, you walk on a beach for thirty minutes
and you feel like you've literally ran a marathon. And
then you see them diving in the beach and Melissa
(40:10):
Humana Perettas on her socials, She'll she'll show them behind
the scenes of her training. They're built different. It's incredible
just how strong their core is, their glutes are, and
obviously what their arms have to do too in volleyball.
It's they're incredibly well rounded athletes.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I would not want to be an Implies class with them.
It would be just so embarrassing for me.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Get the shakes and on that relatable, poignant point that
marks mean in today's episode, thank y'all so much for
tuning in. We'll be in your feed with the new
podcast on Thursday. But in the meantime, you know the
drill rate, review, Subscribe, Share with a friend.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
This episode was edited by Savannah held and produced by
Alessandra Puccio and Lauren Tuscala. Again, I'm Steph
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Rots and I'm Ellen Hislop, and we will chat with
you soon
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