July 4, 2025 • 20 mins
Megan Moseley is a somatic therapist and embodiment coach at BodyWise, with a 36-year background in physical therapy and extensive training in somatic psychology, interpersonal neurobiology, nervous system resiliency, trauma release exercise, and embodiment coaching.
She integrates these disciplines to help individuals and organizations shift from surviving to thriving by regulating the nervous system and fostering authentic self-alignment.
Key Takeaways:
- Holistic Approach: Megan’s work is rooted in a holistic understanding of the body and mind, emphasizing “the body keeps the score” and the importance of healing both individual and collective nervous system dysregulation.
- From Surviving to Thriving: She identifies a global epidemic of anxiety, depression, disconnection, and disease, rooted in chronic nervous system dysregulation. Her mission is to help people move from a state of constant striving and survival into one of safety, presence, and thriving.
- Embodiment and Authenticity: Megan defines embodiment as being in authentic alignment with oneself—gut, heart, and head working together. This alignment fosters psychological safety, clarity, compassion, and collective creativity, especially in group and corporate settings.
- Corporate and Group Impact: Megan has led transformative workshops for organizations like Salt & Straw and Central City Concern, focusing on authentic leadership, nervous system regulation, and creating psychologically safe environments that encourage innovation and belonging.
- Innovative Modalities: She is integrating psychedelic facilitation (specifically psilocybin) into her practice, using trauma release exercise as an accessible, “psychedelics light” tool for processing and integration.
Megan’s approach is deeply relational and evidence-based, drawing on the latest science in nervous system regulation and trauma healing.
She emphasizes the ripple effect of personal transformation on families, workplaces, and communities, and is passionate about making her tools accessible to a wider audience.
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Megan Moseley (00:00):
At the same time, my absolute favorite thing is
(00:03):
working with people one-on-one.
because I can do the realtransformation there, I can
really have people in arelational way heal wounds that
are their entire lifetime,right?
'Cause the body does keep thescore.
That's where it needs to start.
Nathan C (00:21):
The body keeps the score.
I bet you that's going.
At the top of the episode for astinger.
Hello and welcome to the GlowUp.
Fabulous Conversations withInnovative Minds.
Today I'm talking with MeganMoseley.
She's a somatic therapist andembodiment coach at BodyWise.
Megan, it's so great to talkwith you today.
Thanks for joining me.
Megan Moseley (00:40):
It's great to talk with you, Nathan.
Nathan C (00:42):
can you tell us a little bit about who you are and
what you do as a somatictherapist and embodiment coach
at BodyWise.
Megan Moseley (00:50):
Yes.
So my background is 36 years asa physical therapist.
So started off kindaspecializing really in alignment
In a physical way.
So bottom of the foot to the topof the head, and the idea of
really being with people andhelping people in a holistic
way.
But the past years, I've studiedsomatic psychology,
(01:12):
interpersonal neurobiology,nervous system resiliency,
release exercise, and embodimentcoaching.
And so I've judged all of thosethings together.
To create what I call the artand science of being me, it's
all about working with peopleone-to-one, working with
companies, working in groups tohelp people really come home
(01:35):
into themselves to understandtheir experience through the
frame of their nervous system,and how can they use the power
and wisdom of their body todownshift their nervous system,
to come into alignment with thecore truth of their, of who they
are, and to live in a way thatfeels like it's.
Thriving versus surviving.
Nathan C (01:52):
These interconnected systems.
Can you describe, what you wouldsay is like the core problem,
that you're helping, theseindividuals and companies, with,
and, I'd love to know what,embodiment, means, for you and
the work that you're doing.
Megan Moseley (02:09):
Okay, so I will, start with the problem and that
really to me is we're in thisglobal epidemic crisis of
wellbeing, anxiety, depression,disconnection, disease, and that
is really rooted in ourindividual and collective.
Nervous system dysregulation.
(02:30):
Most of us are trying to live upto family and societal
expectations that put us in aplace that we are constantly
going, striving, achieving,surviving.
And we really we're humanbeings.
And so the idea of shifting ournervous system to a place of
(02:50):
beingness versus this constantsense of being ahead of
ourselves a doing way is thefoundation of supporting our own
wellbeing, getting our nervoussystems regulated to a place
where we feel safe withinourselves, that allows us
compassion for others, allows usfocus and clarity and really not
only helps our own health andwellbeing, but in my opinion,
(03:14):
really is the path towardcollectively, toward moving
toward peace in the world,toward moving with compassion.
Nathan C (03:21):
I love that.
This framework that you have isnot just one that, you seem to,
and I'm already getting thispattern of working across
multiple levels This idea ofindividual and group, nervous
system regulation and this ideaof innovation and connection
within oneself, and then alsoaround, very big problems.
(03:47):
Can you dive into, a little bitof the history about how you got
here and, the different toolsthat you've needed to collect
and build on your journey to getto this vision of, embodiment
and, as a tool for growth?
Absolutely.
So it started off, I graduatedphysical therapy school when I
was 21 and started my ownpractice when I was 25 and was
(04:10):
very, Obviously involved in thatand really was wanting to be
with people in a very whole way.
And honestly, this feels like anevolution.
It feels like I started BodyWisein 1995 and I feel like it's
finally what it was meant to be,right?
And when you think about whatthat word means, and so it was
really through my own personalevolution that I've then
(04:31):
paralleled my path of this workwith, which is why I just feel
so.
Heart driven and authentic aboutit.
so yeah, just I was 40 anddivorced for the second time and
really.
I didn't have the words for itat the time, but recognized in
hindsight that I really waspretty successfully doing my
life, but I was surviving it andI wasn't really feeling like the
(04:54):
presence, the kind of yummyjuiciness, all of the joy that
was there, all of the kind ofsense of presence and
gratefulness and I really wantedto find more of that.
So I sought out my own therapyand I just feel like it's been a
universal gift to have thesethings, the next right thing and
the next right thing put infront of me from the therapist
that introduced me to somaticpsychology, to a training where
(05:18):
I trained with all of thesepsychiatrists, psychologists,
social workers, and I was comingin from the physical side.
And so then that evolved intomeeting somebody who said, have
you ever met David Burelli?
Who's this guy who, startedtrauma release exercise, which
is this tremor process.
Just like all animals naturallyshake things off, I help people
(05:40):
induce that reflex.
So it's just been one thing.
Then the next thing, then thenext thing looking at how
organically these pieces gotogether, feels important.
It feels right, feels timely,That leads so nicely into the
next question, right?
Which is how do you, measure theimpact of this work That could
be both, very personal, and,potentially transformational.
(06:05):
at the same time.
Megan Moseley (06:06):
I, a lot of it's just the, through the stories of
the people that I work with, andit's just, it feels like such a
gift for me to be able towitness people on this journey.
So just as they're having theseexperiences of not just thinking
through things, but feeling theshift in themselves of really
feeling aligned, gut, heart, andhead on the same team, it
(06:28):
becomes very powerful and fast.
I said to somebody today whosaid, she's oh my gosh, things
are just changing so fast.
And I said, when you come intoauthentic alignment with
yourself, you literally aresurfing the edge of the moment.
There's nothing in your way.
And it's this place of kind oftrusting and unfolding of yeah,
(06:50):
that's the next right thing.
And then this is where I go fromthere.
And you know the storiesone-to-one, and watching those
evolutions, but also as I docorporate work to.
See these transformations happenin these big rooms, and to have
come back to me year after yearand say, oh my gosh, will you do
our keynote again?
(07:10):
We're still using the thingsthat you taught us that feels
important.
Like a lot of workshops in acorporate way people are like,
oh, that, that was good.
Okay.
But they don't really stick withdoing them.
I've gotten feedback two yearslater that it's still creating
impact in their work.
Nathan C (07:26):
Oh, I'm so curious.
can you talk a little bit aboutwhat kind of corporate, entity
you were working with and whereyou were helping and inspiring
them.
Megan Moseley (07:39):
so I've worked with Salt Straw twice and I like
working with because they are,Absolutely, committed to like,
how do you make the world abetter place by making people
better people?
And so that's the kind ofcorporate work I like to do.
I've also worked with CentralCity Concern.
they're another great group intown here, who does 360 support
(07:59):
for people.
That's the kind of work I liketo do.
Nathan C (08:01):
Could you give an example of Like what a workshop
or what you'd be focused on andworking with, in those
workshops.
Megan Moseley (08:08):
so the one that I did for salt and straw was
called, become an AuthenticLeader.
And I love the word'become'because it's starts with be and
it ends with me.
And the idea is authenticleadership is all about.
Being safe and authentic withinyourself.
First to recognize that we'repeople, and that's where we
create psychological safety forothers.
(08:28):
That workshop was about reallyunderstanding our nervous
systems as our own individualbeings, and how, because our
nervous systems are developed inthe first seven years of our
lives primarily.
When we get triggered, that's acommon word, right?
When we get triggered at work.
we have to really look at who isacting in that moment.
(08:48):
I give people a framework ofunderstanding, that's my
6-year-old self who's reactingversus responding to this.
I'm working on giving people thetools they need to literally be
in themselves, to feel connectedto themselves, and then have
this sense of creating a spacewhere there can be collective
creativity.
a sense of people really wantingto show up and contribute and
(09:11):
they feel valuable and feelseen, and that's the kind of
leadership that we need in theworld.
Nathan C (09:18):
Yeah.
that idea of psychologicalsafety, isn't.
Just a theory in a HarvardBusiness Review article anymore,
right?
Like it's something that peoplemeasure future employers and
companies by, and, younger andyounger generations, the Z and
Alphas, are absolutelyprioritizing the sorts of
(09:42):
values, above many others,right?
Megan Moseley (09:44):
That's what's sustainable for us.
You're just gonna top down,manage and drive people into the
ground, it is not sustainable.
And especially now after Covid,people are a lot less tolerable
of what they'll put up with atwork.
Nathan C (09:57):
I and those dynamics are becoming, quite dicey.
Can you talk about a time where,your work with your clients or,
the work that you were doing,helped to, change?
Or, think about the problems,that you're working on in a new
way.
Megan Moseley (10:14):
Oh gosh.
Yeah, I'm gonna answer this twoways.
One is, nobody's the same.
so the idea of really, so muchof this work is just being
myself and trusting in that andnot doing things, but showing
up.
Holding solid space co-creatingwith people, that's true on an
(10:37):
individual basis in the groupclasses that I teach, in the
retreats that I have and in thecorporate work all the way
across the board.
beyond that, it feels like it'scome to me, like I was saying,
just like the next right thingand the next right thing is I've
done this work.
The newest thing that I'mbringing in is psychedelics.
(10:58):
Right now I'm in the psychedelicfacilitator training at Inter
Trek and how the science aroundthe work that I am currently
doing.
nervous system regulation,especially around what I
mentioned, the trauma releaseexercise.
It's that tremor process that'slike psychedelics light where it
is below consciousness, it showsup, it brings up memory,
(11:21):
emotion, processing, insight,and so to add psychedelics into
that and to use the work I'malready doing as a kind of
introduction.
a way of people resourcing andgrounding themselves, and then
integration, which is the mostimportant piece.
So that feels like a reallybeautiful next evolution.
Nathan C (11:43):
Interesting.
What, that's one of thoseopportunities, right?
That, only a few states, in thenation currently,
Megan Moseley (11:50):
Yeah.
Nathan C (11:51):
Oregon has a licensed the therapy track that allows,
licensed professionals, to do,trauma and, this kind of
integration therapy usingpsychedelics.
and you're working to add thatcertification to your stack.
Megan Moseley (12:06):
So just the clarification
Nathan C (12:08):
Love it.
Megan Moseley (12:08):
training, Oregon.
It's in Colorado.
it's, I think it's almostcomplete in New Mexico and I
think that Vermont might becoming on.
so that are in this training arenot necessarily licensed
therapists, so Anybody who wantsto go through the training.
there's really not a baselinerequirement other than to go
through this process You'reessentially being trained to
(12:29):
hold space for people.
And so it's during this, thatpsychedelic process and it's
psilocybin specificallyexclusively.
and during that process, you'rereally just there for people.
There's guidelines aroundminimal touch presence.
It's basically callednon-directive.
So you're just following theclient's process and supporting
(12:51):
that, and you're not tellingthem what to do in any way.
Nathan C (12:56):
Cool.
bringing in so many modalities,to help folks.
Calm and engage and regulate,the nervous system.
I love it.
The name of the show is calledThe Glow Up.
That means a notabletransformation, rebirth,
leveling up of.
What are you working on to glowup in the next six months or so?
Megan Moseley (13:16):
I am applying for TEDx talks.
working on a book.
I have a few more podcastscoming up, couple of retreats
that I am working oncollaborating with and some
small events both in Portlandand beyond.
Just continuing to show up everyday and I'm really, loving the
(13:36):
work and just trusting in theevolution of what, happens with
that.
Nathan C (13:42):
I love it that you have a very packed summer.
I wanna push a little bit onthis question though, because,
the purpose of asking about aglow up is that, having goals
and having, audacious milestonesthat we're striving to reach is
a thing that often can catapultsomebody with a big idea to that
next level.
(14:02):
So I wanna know what's that nextlevel?
Even though you have found somuch.
center and power in the workthat you're doing.
where are you taking thisvision?
How are you gonna take it to thenext level?
Megan Moseley (14:13):
That.
That's where I'm at right now isin reaching for that and in, an
online course that I ampromoting and my hope for that
is that would really take off,and that may be just, right now
I'm in a place of buildingawareness and building
following, and so my goalsaround that would be to.
(14:33):
Bump my followers to, a hundredthousand to sell courses to be
on a TEDx stage within the yearto, finish my book, to have that
published.
So those are, is that morespecific what you're, yeah.
Yes.
Nathan C (14:50):
Amazing.
so every founder, every stage,of growth and development of an
idea kind of has differentneeds.
In this moment, with the workthat you're doing, body-wise, is
there anything that you'relooking for, whether it's
learning, networking,partnerships, research.
Megan Moseley (15:07):
I am looking for networking.
I am absolutely would love toget involved in research,
looking at the relationshipbetween trauma release, exercise
and what happens withpsychedelic and that, I'm
looking for potentially an agentFor, again, just further people
to help me get the word out.
So I love the word of mouth.
(15:29):
My entire practice, my wholelife has been word of mouth.
This feels like a much bigger,more critically timed, important
piece that there has to be abigger way of getting the word
out.
So collaborations, people thathave ideas around networking,
people that know people.
People that have oh my gosh, Iknow this company and they could
really use this work.
So in that way, putting itforward.
Nathan C (15:50):
Amazing.
Do you have, what's your visionfor the perfect corporate,
Partner or, team to work with,what do those look like in your.
Megan Moseley (16:01):
That's a great question.
I don't have a specific companythat I'm thinking about, but I
love that kind of mid-sizecompany that is.
Growth oriented that is focusedon not just their bottom line,
but how are they showing up inthe world that are making good
choices around the environment,around how they treat people.
(16:22):
Like really looking at a valuebased company, that's who I
wanna work with, however bigthey are.
And then from there, to be ableto offer speaking and workshops
that weave in through not onlythe company, but these are
personal.
Shifts that happen for people.
And so it's like there's such aripple effect in that, right?
(16:42):
So that, as we shift ourselves,then we shift our people that
we're working with.
We shift our families, we shiftour communities.
It just because we resonate offof each other.
In our nervous systems.
There is science behind that.
And so really looking at how dowe create impactful change from
a place that is rooted in whatis true and good and right in a
(17:06):
way of holding what I calluniversal imperatives.
Safety, love, connection, truth,integrity, wholeness, rightness,
being belonging, et cetera.
Those kind of things that,you're nodding your head.
You cannot say no to thosethings.
The idea of having this land inpeople in a way that is much
bigger and bringing this into acorporate world feels really
(17:27):
important.
At the same time, my absolutefavorite thing is working with
people one-on-one.
because I can do the realtransformation there, I can
really have people in arelational way heal wounds that
are their entire lifetime,right?
'Cause the body does keep thescore.
(17:48):
That's where it needs to start.
Nathan C (17:50):
The body keeps the score.
I bet you that's going.
At the top of the episode for astinger.
amazing, Megan, we're justblowing through these questions
today.
and every episode of the Glow Upmakes an opportunity to feature
a community organization, aninnovative project, a nonprofit,
somebody you think is doing goodwork that could use a little
(18:11):
extra attention.
is there anybody you'd like togive a community spotlight to?
Megan Moseley (18:15):
The would be inner trek.
I think that they are, they werestarted by, the people that
wrote Measure 1 0 9 that broughtthe legalization of psilocybin
who started that whole process.
They are wholeheartedlycommitted to ethical approach to
this work and how they'reholding it, how they're training
(18:36):
people.
So them as well as there's aPortland psychedelic society
that's really coming forward andthey're very committed to
bringing this work to people whocannot afford it.
And so they're actually, I justgot an email today that they are
starting to open up formemberships, so check them out.
Nathan C (18:53):
Cool.
Megan Moseley (18:54):
Cool.
Nathan C (18:54):
I have some organizations I need to learn
about.
this is amazing.
Megan, I so appreciate it.
your passion for helping, peoplewith, healing trauma, building
self-realization, and growing,into authentic power is just.
inspirational work.
How can people follow up withyou and learn more?
Megan Moseley (19:17):
My website has a lot of information on there, and
there is a link for, people tobe able to have a practice
that's offered for free.
There's a section on what itmeans to'be me.' And I would
check that out because it's allabout really looking at, realms,
body, emotion, mental andessence, and how does your
nervous system work in there?
(19:37):
It just offers a beautifulframework and a roadmap and from
there you can just take it inany direction.
Coaching, there is a free,consultation, so people want to
connect with me on a Zoom andlearn about what it would be
like to actually work together.
And there's also a list of myin-person classes here in
Portland.
My online work, there's acorporate link for people to
(19:58):
book keynotes and workshops.
So website has it all.
I'm on Instagram and LinkedIn.
Those are the only two.
And on YouTube, those are mysocials.
Nathan C (20:08):
Amazing.
Megan, Moseley somatictherapist, embodiment coach.
Author, professional speaker, somany things.
founder of BodyWise.
thank you for sharing the workthat you do.
helping people really integratetheir understanding of presence,
how their nervous system,impacts how they show up in the
(20:32):
world, and even, our ability tostrive for and achieve dreams.
such a cool, practice to hearabout how, these, very personal,
inward looking things, canimpact, folks in so many
different ways.
thanks for joining us on theglow up today.
Megan Moseley (20:49):
Appreciate it,
Nathan C (20:49):
I'm
Megan Moseley (20:49):
be here.
Nathan C (20:51):
amazing.
At the same time, my absolute favorite thing is
(00:03):
working with people one-on-one.
because I can do the realtransformation there, I can
really have people in arelational way heal wounds that
are their entire lifetime,right?
'Cause the body does keep thescore.
That's where it needs to start.
Nathan C (00:21):
The body keeps the score.
I bet you that's going.
At the top of the episode for astinger.
Hello and welcome to the GlowUp.
Fabulous Conversations withInnovative Minds.
Today I'm talking with MeganMoseley.
She's a somatic therapist andembodiment coach at BodyWise.
Megan, it's so great to talkwith you today.
Thanks for joining me.
Megan Moseley (00:40):
It's great to talk with you, Nathan.
Nathan C (00:42):
can you tell us a little bit about who you are and
what you do as a somatictherapist and embodiment coach
at BodyWise.
Megan Moseley (00:50):
Yes.
So my background is 36 years asa physical therapist.
So started off kindaspecializing really in alignment
In a physical way.
So bottom of the foot to the topof the head, and the idea of
really being with people andhelping people in a holistic
way.
But the past years, I've studiedsomatic psychology,
(01:12):
interpersonal neurobiology,nervous system resiliency,
release exercise, and embodimentcoaching.
And so I've judged all of thosethings together.
To create what I call the artand science of being me, it's
all about working with peopleone-to-one, working with
companies, working in groups tohelp people really come home
(01:35):
into themselves to understandtheir experience through the
frame of their nervous system,and how can they use the power
and wisdom of their body todownshift their nervous system,
to come into alignment with thecore truth of their, of who they
are, and to live in a way thatfeels like it's.
Thriving versus surviving.
Nathan C (01:52):
These interconnected systems.
Can you describe, what you wouldsay is like the core problem,
that you're helping, theseindividuals and companies, with,
and, I'd love to know what,embodiment, means, for you and
the work that you're doing.
Megan Moseley (02:09):
Okay, so I will, start with the problem and that
really to me is we're in thisglobal epidemic crisis of
wellbeing, anxiety, depression,disconnection, disease, and that
is really rooted in ourindividual and collective.
Nervous system dysregulation.
(02:30):
Most of us are trying to live upto family and societal
expectations that put us in aplace that we are constantly
going, striving, achieving,surviving.
And we really we're humanbeings.
And so the idea of shifting ournervous system to a place of
(02:50):
beingness versus this constantsense of being ahead of
ourselves a doing way is thefoundation of supporting our own
wellbeing, getting our nervoussystems regulated to a place
where we feel safe withinourselves, that allows us
compassion for others, allows usfocus and clarity and really not
only helps our own health andwellbeing, but in my opinion,
(03:14):
really is the path towardcollectively, toward moving
toward peace in the world,toward moving with compassion.
Nathan C (03:21):
I love that.
This framework that you have isnot just one that, you seem to,
and I'm already getting thispattern of working across
multiple levels This idea ofindividual and group, nervous
system regulation and this ideaof innovation and connection
within oneself, and then alsoaround, very big problems.
(03:47):
Can you dive into, a little bitof the history about how you got
here and, the different toolsthat you've needed to collect
and build on your journey to getto this vision of, embodiment
and, as a tool for growth?
Absolutely.
So it started off, I graduatedphysical therapy school when I
was 21 and started my ownpractice when I was 25 and was
(04:10):
very, Obviously involved in thatand really was wanting to be
with people in a very whole way.
And honestly, this feels like anevolution.
It feels like I started BodyWisein 1995 and I feel like it's
finally what it was meant to be,right?
And when you think about whatthat word means, and so it was
really through my own personalevolution that I've then
(04:31):
paralleled my path of this workwith, which is why I just feel
so.
Heart driven and authentic aboutit.
so yeah, just I was 40 anddivorced for the second time and
really.
I didn't have the words for itat the time, but recognized in
hindsight that I really waspretty successfully doing my
life, but I was surviving it andI wasn't really feeling like the
(04:54):
presence, the kind of yummyjuiciness, all of the joy that
was there, all of the kind ofsense of presence and
gratefulness and I really wantedto find more of that.
So I sought out my own therapyand I just feel like it's been a
universal gift to have thesethings, the next right thing and
the next right thing put infront of me from the therapist
that introduced me to somaticpsychology, to a training where
(05:18):
I trained with all of thesepsychiatrists, psychologists,
social workers, and I was comingin from the physical side.
And so then that evolved intomeeting somebody who said, have
you ever met David Burelli?
Who's this guy who, startedtrauma release exercise, which
is this tremor process.
Just like all animals naturallyshake things off, I help people
(05:40):
induce that reflex.
So it's just been one thing.
Then the next thing, then thenext thing looking at how
organically these pieces gotogether, feels important.
It feels right, feels timely,That leads so nicely into the
next question, right?
Which is how do you, measure theimpact of this work That could
be both, very personal, and,potentially transformational.
(06:05):
at the same time.
Megan Moseley (06:06):
I, a lot of it's just the, through the stories of
the people that I work with, andit's just, it feels like such a
gift for me to be able towitness people on this journey.
So just as they're having theseexperiences of not just thinking
through things, but feeling theshift in themselves of really
feeling aligned, gut, heart, andhead on the same team, it
(06:28):
becomes very powerful and fast.
I said to somebody today whosaid, she's oh my gosh, things
are just changing so fast.
And I said, when you come intoauthentic alignment with
yourself, you literally aresurfing the edge of the moment.
There's nothing in your way.
And it's this place of kind oftrusting and unfolding of yeah,
(06:50):
that's the next right thing.
And then this is where I go fromthere.
And you know the storiesone-to-one, and watching those
evolutions, but also as I docorporate work to.
See these transformations happenin these big rooms, and to have
come back to me year after yearand say, oh my gosh, will you do
our keynote again?
(07:10):
We're still using the thingsthat you taught us that feels
important.
Like a lot of workshops in acorporate way people are like,
oh, that, that was good.
Okay.
But they don't really stick withdoing them.
I've gotten feedback two yearslater that it's still creating
impact in their work.
Nathan C (07:26):
Oh, I'm so curious.
can you talk a little bit aboutwhat kind of corporate, entity
you were working with and whereyou were helping and inspiring
them.
Megan Moseley (07:39):
so I've worked with Salt Straw twice and I like
working with because they are,Absolutely, committed to like,
how do you make the world abetter place by making people
better people?
And so that's the kind ofcorporate work I like to do.
I've also worked with CentralCity Concern.
they're another great group intown here, who does 360 support
(07:59):
for people.
That's the kind of work I liketo do.
Nathan C (08:01):
Could you give an example of Like what a workshop
or what you'd be focused on andworking with, in those
workshops.
Megan Moseley (08:08):
so the one that I did for salt and straw was
called, become an AuthenticLeader.
And I love the word'become'because it's starts with be and
it ends with me.
And the idea is authenticleadership is all about.
Being safe and authentic withinyourself.
First to recognize that we'repeople, and that's where we
create psychological safety forothers.
(08:28):
That workshop was about reallyunderstanding our nervous
systems as our own individualbeings, and how, because our
nervous systems are developed inthe first seven years of our
lives primarily.
When we get triggered, that's acommon word, right?
When we get triggered at work.
we have to really look at who isacting in that moment.
(08:48):
I give people a framework ofunderstanding, that's my
6-year-old self who's reactingversus responding to this.
I'm working on giving people thetools they need to literally be
in themselves, to feel connectedto themselves, and then have
this sense of creating a spacewhere there can be collective
creativity.
a sense of people really wantingto show up and contribute and
(09:11):
they feel valuable and feelseen, and that's the kind of
leadership that we need in theworld.
Nathan C (09:18):
Yeah.
that idea of psychologicalsafety, isn't.
Just a theory in a HarvardBusiness Review article anymore,
right?
Like it's something that peoplemeasure future employers and
companies by, and, younger andyounger generations, the Z and
Alphas, are absolutelyprioritizing the sorts of
(09:42):
values, above many others,right?
Megan Moseley (09:44):
That's what's sustainable for us.
You're just gonna top down,manage and drive people into the
ground, it is not sustainable.
And especially now after Covid,people are a lot less tolerable
of what they'll put up with atwork.
Nathan C (09:57):
I and those dynamics are becoming, quite dicey.
Can you talk about a time where,your work with your clients or,
the work that you were doing,helped to, change?
Or, think about the problems,that you're working on in a new
way.
Megan Moseley (10:14):
Oh gosh.
Yeah, I'm gonna answer this twoways.
One is, nobody's the same.
so the idea of really, so muchof this work is just being
myself and trusting in that andnot doing things, but showing
up.
Holding solid space co-creatingwith people, that's true on an
(10:37):
individual basis in the groupclasses that I teach, in the
retreats that I have and in thecorporate work all the way
across the board.
beyond that, it feels like it'scome to me, like I was saying,
just like the next right thingand the next right thing is I've
done this work.
The newest thing that I'mbringing in is psychedelics.
(10:58):
Right now I'm in the psychedelicfacilitator training at Inter
Trek and how the science aroundthe work that I am currently
doing.
nervous system regulation,especially around what I
mentioned, the trauma releaseexercise.
It's that tremor process that'slike psychedelics light where it
is below consciousness, it showsup, it brings up memory,
(11:21):
emotion, processing, insight,and so to add psychedelics into
that and to use the work I'malready doing as a kind of
introduction.
a way of people resourcing andgrounding themselves, and then
integration, which is the mostimportant piece.
So that feels like a reallybeautiful next evolution.
Nathan C (11:43):
Interesting.
What, that's one of thoseopportunities, right?
That, only a few states, in thenation currently,
Megan Moseley (11:50):
Yeah.
Nathan C (11:51):
Oregon has a licensed the therapy track that allows,
licensed professionals, to do,trauma and, this kind of
integration therapy usingpsychedelics.
and you're working to add thatcertification to your stack.
Megan Moseley (12:06):
So just the clarification
Nathan C (12:08):
Love it.
Megan Moseley (12:08):
training, Oregon.
It's in Colorado.
it's, I think it's almostcomplete in New Mexico and I
think that Vermont might becoming on.
so that are in this training arenot necessarily licensed
therapists, so Anybody who wantsto go through the training.
there's really not a baselinerequirement other than to go
through this process You'reessentially being trained to
(12:29):
hold space for people.
And so it's during this, thatpsychedelic process and it's
psilocybin specificallyexclusively.
and during that process, you'rereally just there for people.
There's guidelines aroundminimal touch presence.
It's basically callednon-directive.
So you're just following theclient's process and supporting
(12:51):
that, and you're not tellingthem what to do in any way.
Nathan C (12:56):
Cool.
bringing in so many modalities,to help folks.
Calm and engage and regulate,the nervous system.
I love it.
The name of the show is calledThe Glow Up.
That means a notabletransformation, rebirth,
leveling up of.
What are you working on to glowup in the next six months or so?
Megan Moseley (13:16):
I am applying for TEDx talks.
working on a book.
I have a few more podcastscoming up, couple of retreats
that I am working oncollaborating with and some
small events both in Portlandand beyond.
Just continuing to show up everyday and I'm really, loving the
(13:36):
work and just trusting in theevolution of what, happens with
that.
Nathan C (13:42):
I love it that you have a very packed summer.
I wanna push a little bit onthis question though, because,
the purpose of asking about aglow up is that, having goals
and having, audacious milestonesthat we're striving to reach is
a thing that often can catapultsomebody with a big idea to that
next level.
(14:02):
So I wanna know what's that nextlevel?
Even though you have found somuch.
center and power in the workthat you're doing.
where are you taking thisvision?
How are you gonna take it to thenext level?
Megan Moseley (14:13):
That.
That's where I'm at right now isin reaching for that and in, an
online course that I ampromoting and my hope for that
is that would really take off,and that may be just, right now
I'm in a place of buildingawareness and building
following, and so my goalsaround that would be to.
(14:33):
Bump my followers to, a hundredthousand to sell courses to be
on a TEDx stage within the yearto, finish my book, to have that
published.
So those are, is that morespecific what you're, yeah.
Yes.
Nathan C (14:50):
Amazing.
so every founder, every stage,of growth and development of an
idea kind of has differentneeds.
In this moment, with the workthat you're doing, body-wise, is
there anything that you'relooking for, whether it's
learning, networking,partnerships, research.
Megan Moseley (15:07):
I am looking for networking.
I am absolutely would love toget involved in research,
looking at the relationshipbetween trauma release, exercise
and what happens withpsychedelic and that, I'm
looking for potentially an agentFor, again, just further people
to help me get the word out.
So I love the word of mouth.
(15:29):
My entire practice, my wholelife has been word of mouth.
This feels like a much bigger,more critically timed, important
piece that there has to be abigger way of getting the word
out.
So collaborations, people thathave ideas around networking,
people that know people.
People that have oh my gosh, Iknow this company and they could
really use this work.
So in that way, putting itforward.
Nathan C (15:50):
Amazing.
Do you have, what's your visionfor the perfect corporate,
Partner or, team to work with,what do those look like in your.
Megan Moseley (16:01):
That's a great question.
I don't have a specific companythat I'm thinking about, but I
love that kind of mid-sizecompany that is.
Growth oriented that is focusedon not just their bottom line,
but how are they showing up inthe world that are making good
choices around the environment,around how they treat people.
(16:22):
Like really looking at a valuebased company, that's who I
wanna work with, however bigthey are.
And then from there, to be ableto offer speaking and workshops
that weave in through not onlythe company, but these are
personal.
Shifts that happen for people.
And so it's like there's such aripple effect in that, right?
(16:42):
So that, as we shift ourselves,then we shift our people that
we're working with.
We shift our families, we shiftour communities.
It just because we resonate offof each other.
In our nervous systems.
There is science behind that.
And so really looking at how dowe create impactful change from
a place that is rooted in whatis true and good and right in a
(17:06):
way of holding what I calluniversal imperatives.
Safety, love, connection, truth,integrity, wholeness, rightness,
being belonging, et cetera.
Those kind of things that,you're nodding your head.
You cannot say no to thosethings.
The idea of having this land inpeople in a way that is much
bigger and bringing this into acorporate world feels really
(17:27):
important.
At the same time, my absolutefavorite thing is working with
people one-on-one.
because I can do the realtransformation there, I can
really have people in arelational way heal wounds that
are their entire lifetime,right?
'Cause the body does keep thescore.
(17:48):
That's where it needs to start.
Nathan C (17:50):
The body keeps the score.
I bet you that's going.
At the top of the episode for astinger.
amazing, Megan, we're justblowing through these questions
today.
and every episode of the Glow Upmakes an opportunity to feature
a community organization, aninnovative project, a nonprofit,
somebody you think is doing goodwork that could use a little
(18:11):
extra attention.
is there anybody you'd like togive a community spotlight to?
Megan Moseley (18:15):
The would be inner trek.
I think that they are, they werestarted by, the people that
wrote Measure 1 0 9 that broughtthe legalization of psilocybin
who started that whole process.
They are wholeheartedlycommitted to ethical approach to
this work and how they'reholding it, how they're training
(18:36):
people.
So them as well as there's aPortland psychedelic society
that's really coming forward andthey're very committed to
bringing this work to people whocannot afford it.
And so they're actually, I justgot an email today that they are
starting to open up formemberships, so check them out.
Nathan C (18:53):
Cool.
Megan Moseley (18:54):
Cool.
Nathan C (18:54):
I have some organizations I need to learn
about.
this is amazing.
Megan, I so appreciate it.
your passion for helping, peoplewith, healing trauma, building
self-realization, and growing,into authentic power is just.
inspirational work.
How can people follow up withyou and learn more?
Megan Moseley (19:17):
My website has a lot of information on there, and
there is a link for, people tobe able to have a practice
that's offered for free.
There's a section on what itmeans to'be me.' And I would
check that out because it's allabout really looking at, realms,
body, emotion, mental andessence, and how does your
nervous system work in there?
(19:37):
It just offers a beautifulframework and a roadmap and from
there you can just take it inany direction.
Coaching, there is a free,consultation, so people want to
connect with me on a Zoom andlearn about what it would be
like to actually work together.
And there's also a list of myin-person classes here in
Portland.
My online work, there's acorporate link for people to
(19:58):
book keynotes and workshops.
So website has it all.
I'm on Instagram and LinkedIn.
Those are the only two.
And on YouTube, those are mysocials.
Nathan C (20:08):
Amazing.
Megan, Moseley somatictherapist, embodiment coach.
Author, professional speaker, somany things.
founder of BodyWise.
thank you for sharing the workthat you do.
helping people really integratetheir understanding of presence,
how their nervous system,impacts how they show up in the
(20:32):
world, and even, our ability tostrive for and achieve dreams.
such a cool, practice to hearabout how, these, very personal,
inward looking things, canimpact, folks in so many
different ways.
thanks for joining us on theglow up today.
Megan Moseley (20:49):
Appreciate it,
Nathan C (20:49):
I'm
Megan Moseley (20:49):
be here.
Nathan C (20:51):
amazing.
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