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March 4, 2021 54 mins

What if leaders were more interested in developing others around them, than leading for their own gain? That is the question we are seeking to answer in this episode. How do we make more leaders and invest ourselves into others? Dave Ferguson is an author, founding and lead pastor of Chicago’s Community Christian Church, the visionary behind the church-planting movement NewThing, and president of the Exponential Conference. He talks with us about his book, “Hero Maker”. 

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