The Graffito Podcast

The Graffito Podcast

Graffito is a Boston-based advisory firm that operates as a Strategic Partner to landlords, tenants, and developers focused on ground floor activation of mixed-use urban development projects. Our host, Drew Katz, is joined by co-host Jesse Baerkahn and other Graffito team members as they take turns discussing pressing issues facing the industries in which we work. We’re joined by various friends of Graffito and interesting members of the business community around Boston to tell their stories, share new perspectives, and humor us while we try to have a few laughs in the process.

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November 18, 2025 58 mins

On this episode of The Graffito Podcast, Jesse and Drew sit down with Travis McCready, JLL’s Head of Industries for Leasing Advisory, to talk about the state of the life sciences industry, taking a rare detour outside Boston to see how other cities measure up on development potential. Also on the episode, Drew tries to get Travis in trouble, Jesse doesn’t want to talk about BBQ anymore, and Travis winterizes his motorcycle. All of ...

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Welcome back to The Graffito Podcast! Our guest this episode is Josh Bhatti from The Bowery Presents (Roadrunner Boston and The Sinclair), here to give us a behind the-scenes look at the music venue world and why landlords everywhere seem desperate to land one. Also on this episode, Drew smoked pot with a band, Jesse has a barista on his "rider," and Josh’s grandpa questions the very logic of the music business.

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September 26, 2025 60 mins

Drew and Jesse are joined by Shy Bird’s Eli Feldman and Revival Cafe and Kitchen’s Steve "Nookie" Postal to talk restaurant trends and pet peeves (mostly Drew's). Also on this episode, Jesse's kids crush expensive drinks, Drew courses his own meals, Nookie wants Graffito slippers, and Eli finally has a lighthearted conversation. All of this and more on this episode of The Graffito Podcast.

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June 24, 2025 75 mins

On this very special summer Solstice episode of The Graffito Podcast, Drew and Jesse talk with Spencer Glendon, founder of Probable Futures, about his journey from economist to climate thought leader and how the warming earth deeply impacts our daily lives, of course including real estate development in Boston. Also on this episode, Drew is depressed by the Solstice, Jesse was annoying on a Zoom call, and Spencer is no longer fun a...

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November 1, 2023 133 mins

No one has ever been bold (or dumb) enough to record a podcast live from a Friends and Family event. At least, no one that we know of. But after being invited back by Tom Schlesinger-Guidelli, owner of Hook + Line restaurant, to document the event, we decided that it was time for someone to finally try. For those that don’t know, a Friends and Family event is a mock service that occurs before a restaurant opens to the public. It’s ...

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August 20, 2023 65 mins

On this episode of The Graffito Podcast, Drew and Jesse welcome founder of Tatte Bakery & Café, Tzurit Or. We discussed Tatte’s history and growth, possible expansion into New York, and her struggles as an immigrant business owner. Also on this episode, Tzurit compares Dave to a ham and cheese croissant, Drew holds a master class in negotiating, and Jesse demands that our guests bring snacks. All of this and more on The Graffit...

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On this episode of The Graffito Podcast, Drew and Jesse take the show on the road to record on location, for reasons unknown to anyone including our hosts. They visit the future home of Hook + Line, a restaurant that will open later this year by Tom Schlesinger-Guidelli. In addition to getting an update on the restaurant's progress, the gang dives into the complicated Liquor License process in Boston. Then, Drew shares his late...

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April 17, 2023 54 mins

Last week we had a lengthy conversation with Globe journalist, Devra First. We got a taste of what it’s like to be a food writer and restaurant critic in Boston and she shared some trends in the restaurant industry and made a few recommendations along the way. Also on this episode, Drew's not convinced he’s interviewing the real Devra First, Jesse makes a wild restaurant prediction, and Devra doesn’t read your comments. All of ...

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Drew and Jesse get together to test the equipment after a one and a half year hiatus. They discuss cooking with gas, LOIs, and difficult clients. See if you made the cut! Join them as they kick of season three of the podcast, which will be the last. But don't worry, the season's never going to end.

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July 13, 2021 33 mins

Drew and Jesse are joined by Graffito’s newest team member, Melissa Castro, as they wrap up Season 2 of the podcast. What better way to end things than with a game? Drew quotes our nine guests and Jesse has to guess which one said it. How well can you do? 

Don't forget to send along questions to podcast@graffito.com or tweet @graffitopodcast. Thanks for listening and goodbye for now!

Host: Drew Katz
Co-Host: Jesse Baerkahn...

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July 6, 2021 48 mins

This week we are joined by Elizabeth Lowrey, principal, director of interior architecture at Elkus Manfredi Architects. Together, we discussed the growing demand for downtown office space, how coronavirus has impacted workplace design, and the relationship between a building’s interior and the surrounding community. Also on this episode, Elizabeth is a fan of Jon Hamm, Drew is a fan of Jon Hamm, and Jesse asks, “Who’s Jon Hamm?”

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June 29, 2021 51 mins

Janelle Nanos, reporter for the Boston Globe, writes about retail, restaurants, and consumer culture. Which, by the way, are things we care a lot about at Graffito. During our conversation we talked about a local company using a restaurant for office space, why people are rethinking their careers post-pandemic, a new adult playground in Natick called Level99, and the recent consumption boom. And, we peppered Janelle with questions ...

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June 22, 2021 55 mins

Fresh off her first MBTA ride since last March, C.A. Webb, President of the Kendall Square Association, joins us on this week’s episode of The Graffito Podcast. We covered a lot of territory, discussing topics like Cambridge’s reduced permitting and licensing fees, the Life Sciences real estate boom in Boston and beyond (looking at you Middlesex, New Jersey), and what makes Kendall Square so unique. Also on this episode, Drew can’t...

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June 15, 2021 55 mins

At the beginning of Season Two of The Graffito Podcast, we promised you conversations with political activists, government officials, and entrepreneurs. On this week’s episode, we’re delivering all three qualifications with one special guest. Michelle Wu, City Council Member and Candidate for Mayor of Boston, interrupted her busy schedule to join Drew and Jesse to discuss what she’s learning while on the campaign trail, why she has...

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May 4, 2021 53 mins

Nia Grace, owner of Darryl’s Corner Bar & Kitchen and founding member of the Boston Black Hospitality Coalition, joins Drew and Jesse in The Graffito Podcast studio. She tells us about her upcoming venture, The Underground Café + Lounge, what it was like purchasing a legendary Boston restaurant, and how she’s fighting to make a difference for the few black owned bars and restaurants in our city. After listening, you’ll know why...

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April 27, 2021 51 mins

Chef, Restaurateur, and (two-time) James Beard Award winner, Jody Adams, joins us this week to talk about her advocacy work with Massachusetts Restaurant United(MRU), working in what has historically been a male dominated industry, the importance of mentors, and her various life mantras. Also on this episode, we hear about Julia Child’s role in Jody's career, Drew reveals the amount of weight he’s gained during the pandemic, and Je...

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April 20, 2021 47 mins

A lot has changed in the Corporate Catering world since COVID-19 first struck. No one knows that better than Christine Marcus, CEO & Co-Founder of Alchemista, who experienced a total loss of customers, with the exception of one unique Cambridge firm called Moderna. Heard of them? In this episode of The Graffito Podcast, Drew and Jesse discuss with Christine how the office lunch culture has changed, and where it’s heading. And, ...

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April 13, 2021 56 mins

On this week's episode, Drew and Jesse are joined by Liza Shirazi, owner of Revival Café + Kitchen, which has locations in Back Bay, Davis Square and Alewife. Together, they discuss a variety of topics including the overwhelming demand for restaurant workers, the newly offered and often misunderstood Employee Retention Tax Credit (which if you own a business with employees, need to know about), and Liza's partnership with the color...

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April 6, 2021 50 mins

Rachel Miller Munzer (Mamaleh's, State Park, Vincent's Corner Grocery) joins Drew and Jesse to discuss the Big Dipper Hospitality Group’s partnership and how they turned to a new online platform to fundraise for their latest venture in Brookline. Also on this episode, Rachel plays with pens while recording, Drew confuses "donations" for "contributions," and the Yiddish term for matchmaker eludes Jesse.

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November 11, 2020 47 mins

For the final episode of the season, Drew and Jesse get together to do some reflecting. They discuss the status of the podcast and share a few of their favorite moments from the first episodes, which includes a nice summary of what we've learned about #PodcastDrew. Also on this episode, Jesse forgets to mute his computer (again) and Drew questions Jesse’s pronunciation of the word “Already.” 

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