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(00:08):
Welcome to the Grand Prix Project podcast.

(00:34):
Welcome once again. Welcome once again.
This is the Grand Prix Project podcast.
This is the Italian GP review with me, yours, Andre and the
big bro Thanos or a big bro that.
Much good since here, you know, it's the it's your favorite
niece's birthday today as well, so.

(00:57):
Happy birthday to Niecy. That was I'm here, bro, I'm
here. Just another week, another
recording. You know, a lot of excitement in
the motor GP sphere, you know, big news, big news.
Big, big news. Yeah, the Liberty Media.

(01:19):
Yeah, Liberty Media take over. Finally approved.
Yeah, by the European Commission.
But because I think we, I think we spoke about this once before
and we said how will this impactthe sport going forward from
yeah, sporting standpoint and also from a financial

(01:44):
standpoint, because we can see from Formula One financially, I
think it has made an impact. On the sport, you know, massive
impact. Not only and added to that that
you know, they come in with the car scalps and no teams are more
sustainable, more financially profitable.

(02:05):
I wouldn't say profitable because I still remember, I
think Mercedes, the only team sofar, I can't ever remember
making a profit, but teams are the most financially stable,
financially stable as well. And and also the value of the
teams has increased. The team's valuation has gone up
now, so will Liberty Media have the same effect?

(02:28):
Will we end up seeing a similar?They do something similar to
DTS, We'll call it RTS, right tosurvive.
Yeah, as long as they don't turnit in a cornball show.
I. Mean.
Yeah, because, Because we know there was one on Prime, wasn't
there? Don't mention it.

(02:48):
Don't mention it. Yeah, that was terrible.
That was terrible. Like I said, hopefully you know,
them coming in and they do something, they might do
something similar and you know, might take off bringing up a
brand new audience to the sport as it is just like what they did
with Formula One. But you've been to some of the

(03:10):
races, the last you know, recently you were talking about
how when you go to 1/4, you knowit.
When Formula One is in quarter, you know it's there because the
promotion and everything, it's put on an effort.
So you know it's there. But when mortar GPS in quarter,

(03:31):
it's like if you're not a hard hardened mortar GP fan, you
don't know it's in total becausethe promotion, you know, and
promotion of it you know isn't the same get, doesn't get the
same sort of push like Formula One.
So what do you think, What do you think?

(03:51):
Do you think they could help improve on that?
Yeah, definitely because it's because it's still going to be
run by the same management team,Espilator and Co, right.
And and then some people from Liberty, Liberty Media obviously
is going to join that team because the the current team,
Espilator and Co, they do a goodjob, right.

(04:15):
But I think they've plateaued. Yeah, right.
I think they've probably run outof ideas, right.
So what is important that they keep those core guys because
they understand all the GP, which is similar.
It's not like Liberty went to Formula One and and this clean
house, because that would have never worked.
That would have been an epic failure to be honest, if you ask

(04:36):
me. Yeah, because it's a common
environment they're not familiarwith, so.
Yeah, right. So they're just the money guys
basically, right. So with Moto GPI could see where
the Liberty media situation could you know, give show them
get exponential growth for the sport for the sport because

(05:00):
being in Dallas quota is in Austin.
And so be in mind, Texas has four major cities, right?
You got San Antonio, which I think is the smallest 1.
You got Dallas, you have Houstonand then you have Austin.
And I used to live in Houston and when Moto GP came, I didn't

(05:25):
see anything of Moto GP in Houston, which is you're missing
the trick. Right now I'm in Dallas.
When Moto GP comes around, I still don't see any promotion of
Moto GP to let people in. Dallas knows that, hey, there's
something big going on in Austinin the next month or so.
Don't even know the news. Nothing at all.

(05:47):
I've never is, you know, conventional TV, most people
don't watch conventional TV, right?
Maybe some do. I I don't really watch
conventional TVI watch the news every now and then, but I've
never seen it whilst I'm watching.
It may show, but if I'm not hearing about it, it seems like
it's not there. Yeah, that's why I'm looking at
it, right. And the reason why I, I'm happy

(06:08):
for this takeover and, and, and our fingers crossed that liberty
is going to do great in terms ofpromoting the sport is I speak
to a lot of people. As you know, I'm in car
business. So I meet a lot of people,
right? And I've met people at my, at my
dealership who I was in COTA wasthere wasn't COTA.
And I was like, Hey, you know what?
They are die Arctic fans. They are motorcycle riders,

(06:30):
right? But I've met more motorcycle
riders who don't know more the GPS that comes to Texas, which
is crazy because when I tell in the black hole, I didn't know
that I would love to come. I'd love to go tell me when is
the next one. So having these conversation is
telling me that the reach isn't reaching.

(06:51):
That makes sense. So is that is that more on a
Europe US based argument or do you think that's kind of like
that's a global thing because weknow in Europe it's pretty
popular in Europe, but I still think it could probably get some
more push in Europe. The reason why it's popular in

(07:14):
because we got to be careful when we say it's popular in
Europe, right? It's popular in some European
countries, Spain, Italy, right, France, maybe Portugal.
Right now, top rack, top rack iscoming in, so it's going to get
the Turkish. Audience with him.

(07:35):
Right, but when you think about say for instance, the sport
needs to get to a point where aslike even if someone from your
country is not are taken. Yeah.
You should still have the fans come out.
We've seen what what happened atSilverstone this year, which is
a perfect example of that. The people didn't come out

(07:57):
right. Because they didn't really have
anybody to back, did they? And that's the thing.
Whereas like we, it's, it's likeyou and I, you're, you're,
you're, you're a rusty guy, right?
But before that you love the sport, right?

(08:17):
And so Eve, with rusty being gone, you still watch and you
still find someone else because you love the sport, right.
So Silverstone show that something is fundamentally
wrong. Could it be a pricing thing?
Could have been a pricing thing.Could be because all of this is

(08:39):
we're just throwing stuff out there, right?
It could be that and it could bethe fact that there's apart from
Jake Dixon, there's no one in inthe in the, in the in the top
category is a motor GP itself. That's that's on the grid from
Britain, right? But even with that being said,
the numbers in Silverstone, theywere appalling for, for, for the

(08:59):
pinnacle of motorsport. There's no way that's the
numbers that you get in Silverstone, which is the UK is
the UK isn't one of the foundation countries in Moto GP.
They've had multiple world champions in the history of the
sport. So I'm, I'm having the
disconnect right here, right? That's where the disconnect is,

(09:19):
is, is coming. I'm like, there's something
wrong. So let's see if Liberty Media
could actually fix that issue tobring more people out to
actually market and promote the sport outside of just us as core
fans. We want to get the situation
where as like, because a lot of people that I meet now they're
all into F1 because our draft tosurvive.
And that's a Liberty Media thing, right?

(09:41):
But nothing is wrong with comingin the sport to a draft to
survive. It's an Ave. and then once
people come in, they get hooked on it.
Now they find their favorite drivers and then they become
fans. So obviously that that that
thing worked. So it's just let's see what
they're going to do with more with more GP.
Even here in the States, there'srumors that they're trying to
get, I think, two more races because.

(10:03):
They only have when you think they just have quota.
They just have quota. They used to have Indy, they
used to have Laguna Seca, LagunaSeca, Moto GP, Congo to Laguna
Seca anymore. Why not, right?
It's not safe. It's not safe enough and they
can't expect, they can't extend the track, they can't do
anything to the track. And the people that lives there
on Laguna Seca are complaining so that Laguna Seca is dead when

(10:23):
it is dead when it comes out to Moto GP.
Well, I mean, they have some other because obviously they
have the AM as in the state. So there's they have some pretty
other. Yeah, but you have to remember
that. You have to remember that.
Yeah, it's a allegation thing aswell.
Yeah. Safety wise, the track has to
fit. So it's so they're pretty

(10:46):
basically going to do what they're similar to what they've
done with Formula One where they, you know, try and get
multiple races in these states rather than the one.
Because, yeah, because it makes sense.
Everyone has what, three US races they have?
Miami, Vegas and Kota. Kota.
So right, Yeah. And I think they're pushing for
another one. Is it Chicago?

(11:08):
Yeah, they well that's what we heard about how I don't know
what true that is or feasible that is, but.
You know, but it's, it's, it's it's Formula One could take.
Yeah, if they got another one that would work, I can't see it
failing. And the American market.
And again, the American, this iswhat we've come to realize

(11:28):
Europe in both mortar GP and Formula One, they don't really
struggle in Europe in terms to get eyes on screens and
followings. But it's kind of that's where it
kind of limit because the biggest market for mortar GP is
the Asian market. Yep, which makes sense.

(11:49):
Which is no one. No one travels that motorcycle
more than those people. Yeah, so that's the biggest
market. But at the same time, the US is
still a massive market as well. So they needed, they need to tap
into that base. And you know, that's literally
what Moto G Liberty did when they came in with Formula One.
They, you know, because everybody, it was just a

(12:10):
mandatory quota. The two races.
Was it three? There was just two races in
North America before it came in Qatar.
Yeah. And Canada.
Now we have what, five in North America, North and South
America? Yeah, 'cause you have.

(12:32):
The three in South, North and South America, I think you have
we have a combined in more for Formula One.
It's three US. So it's 3566 N north-south
America, South America, you haveMexico and Brazil, yeah Mexico,
yeah. And then North America you have
4 Canada and the three in the USSo that region there's only 6

(12:55):
races, but you think for some region of that size maybe that
wasn't enough Yeah. So, you know, I, I think it's.
Because America, because Americaalone, you could break it down
in, in, in different coast, WestCoast, East Coast and N yeah, N

(13:20):
you could, you could, you could break it down that way.
Right. And The thing is with Moto GP,
why I think Moto GP should have a bigger American audience and
should have more races. Well, people fail to understand
that they got a bunch of American champions.
Like I think it's like 7 when I speak to a lot of Americans who
are even to motorcycle, they don't even notice.

(13:41):
Because the last Moto G obviously was Nikki Hayden.
Yeah, the Roberts family. Kenny Roberts, junior senior.
Isn't Wayne Rooney American, isn't he?
I believe Wayne Rooney is American.
Yeah, Wayne Rooney. So you have Kenny Roberts on
three, Freddie Spencer on 2, Eddie lost 94, Wayne Rooney and

(14:05):
three Kevin Schwans, one, Ken Roberts Junior one and Nicky
one. So how much is that?
That's 712. That's more than 7.
No, that's 7 champions. But in terms of titles?
OK, OK, so. They got a bud.
I got 15 titles combined. Yeah, but number riders is 7. 7,
which I think Italy's got 7 as well.

(14:25):
There you go. So again, so they have, so
they've got a long standing history in the sport.
Remember they used to dominate this thing so.
It's only fear that Liberty would want to build on that to
remind people that, you know, wewere here, you know, we were
successful. I mean, they were the far more
successful than Formula One in terms of champions.

(14:47):
So it makes sense that they'd want to build on that.
And again. It makes sense in America and
Formula One if you're looking atit that way, right?
Exactly true, you know, so I think you know, when when
Liberty Media took over Formula One, you obviously, you know,
from the so-called pure risk, you know, pure risk is whatever

(15:09):
the hell they're calling. But where they come from with
that nonsense or a bit reticent with them taking over.
There was a bit of, you know, people thinking of talking about
all the gimmicky. Remember the was it was it the,
was it 2017 or 2018 where they had the Michael Buffer call out

(15:30):
the drivers before and the driver before the race in
quarter? I believe it was 20/17/2017.
It was, yeah, 2017. People are saying, you know,
that's gimmick and all of that and all that, but it's something
different, you know what I mean?And if you listen, even Lewis
Hamilton was saying that sometimes we need something

(15:51):
different from the norm that we're used to.
And Liberty tried to do that with formula.
And I think, you know, obviously, you know, the
so-called purist Moto GP fans are going to come and they're
going to do the same thing. They're going to have kickbacks
and all that, you know, saying, oh, they're ruining the sport.
But at the same time, from a business perspective, the teams

(16:15):
will will welcome Liberty in because they know, OK, no, we're
going to start probably make some more money because these
guys are going to do everything possible to get this sport into
a different or bigger market. Audience yeah.
And and The thing is I'm glad that you said that, right?

(16:37):
Business, you know, you're not having this conversation even on
your spaces and always bring up the business of the sport,
right? Even though I understand now the
business of the sport is probably the most important part
of it, of course, right? Because even going racing with
your kid, it's an expensive thing.
If you try to go racing with your kid and you're not a multi
millionaire, you might go broke.You might go broke, broke if

(17:01):
he's not, if you know what I'm saying, if you're trying to go
through to get to say F1. So the business of the sport is
very important. So if you're trying to get take
your kids racing, you're going to need sponsors because you
can't do it out your own pocket.It's an expensive thing.
So the more money, whatever theyneed to do to bring the audience
and to put on a show, right? That's where the business part

(17:22):
comes in. We need to figure out are we
going to put on a show? So even I think when the drivers
get caught up, people got to understand the Americans.
They know how to put on a party,bro.
They're not to put on a show. We've seen, we've seen what they
do before the starter in the 500.
We see what they do before the start of most in the races.
So yeah. Right, they, they, they, because

(17:44):
even when I look at I was watching the the in the race and
they had this dude from the, theNFL player.
He was on the grid. Because what that does is that
if these, if this guy's in NFL, right?
He's in the NFL and his fans, he's got a million followers on,
on, on Instagram, are on TikTok,whatever platform, and he's

(18:07):
showing that, hey, am I in the car?
What that does is that those people are going to look and be
like, what the hell is that? Even if they don't know what it
is. Yep.
Our football guys already. Let me go see what this is.
So even if 20,000 of those followers see that and 10,000 of
them start following in the car,that's a job done.
That's a job. Because you, because you,

(18:28):
because you're bringing it to anaudience that wouldn't, yes,
normally, you know, ordinary look at this sort sort of thing.
So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm excited to see what they're going to do
know. That and they've done a great
job just because we're going to wrap on the Liberty Media stuff
and it's a, it's a 8416 split. So as well it's Darna still

(18:49):
maintains 16%. Liberty is 84.
So they're but Jorna is basically a minority owner.
Yeah. So for wrapping this, and this
is how good of a job Liberty hasdone, right, is Formula One has
really been trying to break the American market for a minute.

(19:11):
And a lot of they tried and failed a lot of times, right?
Because in America, one thing with Americans, they love your
own grown stuff. They love their NASCAR, they
love their IndyCar, right? As they should.
You know, this is ours. And when you look at the
interactions, like with the drivers, right?

(19:32):
So I saw one of the races that was won the other day.
What race was it where the duty took I think the flag and he
walk up to the thing and gave itto a fan, right?
Was it the one that happened on Sunday?
No, I think it's two weeks ago, Carmen, but we won it, right.
But the interaction in in these in these events with with, with

(19:55):
the fans, 'cause even the other day when Kimmy Antonelli took
his classmates, people in in have their panties in a bun over
it. I'm like why are y'all mad?
I believe it was Jacques Villeneuve who came out and said
that's his place of work. He shouldn't have been bringing
his school friends there. Whatever did you see the race?
Did you see the in the race On on on on in Wisconsin Road to

(20:20):
America on Sunday pass? Yeah, their.
Drivers are their drivers are their wives whilst the national
anthem was going on, drivers aretheir wives and children on the
grid right beside them just before the race.
You have to learn to make sportsa family event.
Stop making it this this trick stiff tunnel like a tunnel
vision type of thing. Whereas like you only see it one

(20:41):
way. You got to make it a family
event. It's sports, it's right so.
It's that purist, you know what I mean?
That purist, purist ideology that, oh, this, we don't need
people who aren't, who don't know anything about the sport to
come in and watch it. Just make the sport for us and
us alone. Like, yeah, what does it say in

(21:01):
the 1950s, mate? We're in the modern.
Era Now put it this way, if any motor sport was to depend just
on purists, they would go broke.Yep, a formula won't give you.
Any form of growth, right, They would have any form of growth,
they wouldn't expand, right? There's nothing that purists

(21:23):
would accept if it was just downto them you'd be still racing on
on their tracks. So yes, but yeah, that's it on
the liberty Moto GP take over. I'm excited about it.
I I based on what they did with Formula One Moto GP got a high
ceiling. Yep or grow right.
A lot of people outside of pure I just we're going to use by the

(21:44):
word purists are die hard Moto GP does not know the superstars
the right Moto GP. So I think liberty as a job to
do to turn these guys into real worlds world world level
superstars worldwide superstars fabios.
The good thing is that the year the writers who are coming up
now the the the Maximo keyless the the the the the ruiders, the

(22:08):
David Alonso's so look perfect timing David Alonso Colombian
reps as a Colombian representation right.
You got Diego Marira Brazil. So it's like everything.
So the guys who are coming up are probably going to benefit
from this new fans that are about to come in because Marcus

(22:30):
is on his way out the. New direction or the sports?
Probably. Going to these younger kids are
probably going to benefit more because Marcus is on his way
out. Picker got a couple more years,
so yeah, they might get some of it.
But when it really hits, it's going to be the the Daffodil
answers. And of this world, we're going
to really benefit the most from that.
Yeah. All right.

(22:51):
But yeah, but that's it on that.Yeah, I'm excited.
So let's see how that plays out,all right?
So to the race, To the race, race weekend.
Oh boy, you know, Pekko's home turf.
Pekko needed await. Needed to, you know, put in some

(23:15):
performance because what was therace before?
Was it arrogant? Arrogant.
Yeah. He didn't go too badly in
arrogant. He looked, you know, he looked
like the pecker of old in arrogant.
He seemed to have that bounce inhis step.
But obviously we knew no one wasgoing to beat Mark in arrogant,
so that was kind of like a foregone conclusion.

(23:36):
But this weekend's Italian grumpy.
He needed to show something, youknow, and I think he did and it
started in qualifying because you know, he Mark had to do
everything to get that pole position.

(23:57):
Mark went to the pits of hell todig that time out to get to the
get pokers. Remember the top three was
covered by less than 1/10 because he was what, zero?
He took pole by what, 0.059 and Pekka barely beat Alex to to the

(24:18):
post. So I think Saturday he showed
that, yeah, in qualifying. I've got some, you know, what we
saw in Aragon wasn't really likea fluke thing.
I'm starting to find some form of performance.
But then what happens later on in the afternoon?

(24:39):
Is he though? Yeah, well, I'd say yes, because
it's two races in a row. He he has actually looked
somewhat like the Peck of old. The The thing is with the the
arrogant situation, right as I say, came down to that disc that
he could run in Medulla, right? And I didn't, I didn't really

(25:05):
bind to the, the arrogant performance because when once,
once they, it came out and they say it's the disk, it's the,
it's the 355. I'm like, you cannot run that
disk everywhere, right? So I'm like, if that's going to
be, if that's it, if that's whatfix that issue, I'm like, OK,
it's bad. Because once I said I'm like,

(25:27):
well, you cannot run that disk everywhere.
So it's if you go to a track that you can't run that disk,
then what? Right.
So Fast forward to this weekend.Yeah, he looked a little bit
better than previously, right? And he did put up a.

(25:53):
Fight. But that's what I mean when I
said, you know, he looked different.
He the arrogant thing wasn't really a fluke because again,
did he run the same? Did he use the same bigger brick
break This? You can't no, you can't run in
Mugello. OK, but OK, so he didn't run it

(26:16):
in Mugello, but he looked competitive Despite that.
So the question now becomes, wasit adrenaline from the fact that
he's at home and he has won his race the last three races?
That's all that is, he said it. That's all that is.
That's all that is. The thing is with that right,
without giving props, The thing is with that type of adrenaline

(26:37):
and that type of push, you can'tdo it over 23 laps.
True, you can't do it over 23 laps.
You could do that four or five laps.
I don't think so. I don't think so, because.
Remember that? That push, That's what killed
his tires. Yes, yeah.
But what? No, what I mean when I say I'm
not talking about the race per SE at this moment.

(26:57):
What I'm talking about is up taking performance over the
weekend, was that a case of justadrenaline?
Adrenaline and him being at homeand knowing that he has won this
race the last three times. So this pretty much this is kind
of like his backyard. So he expects to go well here
and to perform well here. So we're saying, you know,

(27:19):
'cause they're racing this weekend, are they?
Yeah, that's, that's a couple oftent that the the home crowd
gives you. Yeah, so, right, because this is
what I would say. I would say it's an uptick.
You finish off the podium bro. Yeah, but again, right.
But here's the thing, you're looking at the podium and

(27:40):
saying, OK, because he didn't make the podium, there was no
uptake in his performance. I don't I don't agree with that.
What we saw from him right, is he was more aggressive, he
seemed more confident on the bike and I think he's then said
what happened to him, his front tyres went off and if yeah so

(28:04):
and it's hold on. And if you listen to him from
the start of the season, the issues he's having with the bike
is the front end of the bike. He's 'cause remember he came out
and said look, doesn't matter what tyre you put in the front
of the bike, I'm not getting thesame feeling that all the tyres
feel the same. And as a result of that, that
affects his braking and stability on the bike.

(28:26):
So whilst he didn't make the podium on Sunday, one more
looking at is did he look like the old Petco at any point?
I don't agree with that. No, I don't.
Agree with you because you got to think about it right?
What he did on Sunday, if he's on the 2nd row, if he's on

(28:47):
qualify second, he can do that every single weekend if he
wanted to. Let's think about it.
All he did this weekend was it'sa home race.
He's got the fans behind him. We all know home race gives you
a certain type of confidence. It's his track.
He knows the track inside out, right?
And he just went for it, right? He can do that every single
weekend if he so choose to, right?

(29:08):
But the results are probably going to be the same.
Yeah. But what I'm trying to say here
is what I'm not talking about the results.
What I'm saying here is that if you look at his performance in
arrogant, right, people said he looked like the Peck of oil on
the bike. He looked more comfortable, more

(29:29):
fluid. He didn't, you know, he when he
braked, he was braked, the wheels were in line, they
weren't stepping out of place, etcetera.
So he looked like the Peck of oil.
So that's what I mean when I said when you looked at him this
weekend, right, he past weekend,he looked like his old self.
He looked confident, he looked on the bike, he didn't look
frustrated, You know, he wasn't having all of these issues that

(29:51):
he was previously having. Again, like, yes he was.
Did you see, did you see that motorcycle in the main race on
the break and that? Thing was get hold on, I'll get
to that because again, that onlystarted to happen once his tires
start to go off. That's what that was a sign that
okay, his tires will start, his front tires will start to go
off. So you know, which goes back to

(30:11):
the problem he's been complaining he's been having the
whole entire season. It's something to do with the
front end of the bike and he's not getting the same feeling and
it's not allowing him to break how he wants to break carry the
speed he wants it because he doesn't have confidence that
it's going to stick. And again, I think that's what
caused him to crash at Silverstone as well.
The front end just gave away andthat was it for him.

(30:34):
I know what you're saying, but that's what I'm saying.
Everything that I saw from Pecker this weekend was just
home crowd. I don't think anything really,
well, I don't really think anything changed on the
motorcycle. I think it's just.
It's not, well, it's not. Is it something that changed on
the motorcycle or it could be something that's changed, but we
don't know what that change is. Because like you said in Aragon,

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it was a case of they went with a bigger disc for the for the
front. You couldn't run that at
Modella, right? But he looked different.
It's like he carried Porter. It's like he carried that
confidence from Oregon over intothe weekend.
You said OK, You said it could be a case of being it's the home

(31:19):
crowd that's pushing him, that pushed him to that level of
performance. It's very possible.
But we have another race coming up in a couple days time because
this weekend they're in Assen, right?
Yeah. Let's see what happens if
there's a, if there's a deep fall backwards, then we can say,
OK, cool. Then nothing really was

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different, you know, but I'm, I'm willing to kind of like,
because if we look at the race, the Sprint race, I won't even
talk about the Sprint race because we pretty much know how
picker is when it comes to the, the Sprint race.
It's not really his thing, and whatever that is, he's going to
have to figure it out. But hold on.
He's still finished. Well, he's still This is one of

(32:04):
the better sprints that he's done, yeah.
Because I'm trying to find out where he finished.
I don't remember where he finished in the Sprint third.
Yeah. So you so you so you did the
Yeah, he was on the podium for. For the Sprint and and that's
that's the issue, right? He did a good Sprint and then in
the main race he's off the podium.
So I'm like, I'm like, that's why I said Sunday was just in

(32:28):
this home crowd. I'm just going to go for it
because if you listen most the interviews, if you've been so if
you listen to even last year right coming, the situation is
the same in terms of like the tires are very the tires,

(32:49):
especially the front tire, you have to treat it a certain, but
they're very. Sensitive.
So even when you listen to Alex Marquez, he said when he saw
that Pickle went for it, he was like, yeah, he's using all that
tire, right? So he said that once that
settled, he knew that Pickle wasgoing to be out of there, right?

(33:11):
Not in so many words. Because nowadays, once you go
like that, there's a possibilityyou're going to have no tire
left at the end. And we've seen that.
Right. And so to answer your question,
the pickup performance this weekend, I think that was just

(33:31):
win it, win it our Bennett that that's just what that was in the
main race. I don't think, I don't think, I
don't think anything was gained right.
And I respect him for going for because hey, it's your home
crowd. It's it's your home race.
We it's the same thing. Fabio was like, you know, it's
I'm just going to go get it right because what am I racing

(33:53):
for? Like I'm not racing for a
championship. So I might as well as try and
win my own my own Grand Prix, right, because and pick a nose
because 1 you know, once you go like that, man, you ain't going
to have no tires left. Yeah, but and that and that and
that came to pop. I don't know because I'm I'm of
this belief that what he did on Sunday, I respected him for that

(34:13):
because he, I think that's probably the hardest mark has
raced all year in any race. I think that's the most mark has
had to be got overtaken and thenover overtook and then got
overtaken again in every race hehas competed.
No, remember, that's how Eric started before he crashed.
What? But that's how the Spanish Grand

(34:35):
Prix, that's how it started before he crashed.
Yeah, but I don't think it I don't think it was anything to
do to this extent. So I, I give Pecker credit
because he just went, look, you're not going to beat Mark by
just being timid and just, you know.
Yeah, no one is not no. One, no one.
So it's only fear that he went OK then let me roughly his

(34:58):
feather. Let me see if I can roughly his
feather. Let me see if I can get on the
skin or force a mistake from himor something.
I think that's. If you qualify, second, do it
every weekend. Don't just do it.
Bro I don't know why, never mindso.
No, I get what you said, but I'msaying to you, you can't If if
he feels that way, if that's howhe.

(35:19):
Feels, but yes, but you're everysingle time again yeah, but
you're ignoring that he also hasissues with the bike.
So OK, this time around he qualified well in his last.
I'm saying whenever, if he qualifies second behind Mark,
any time he's behind Mark, he needs to do the same thing.
That's what I'm saying. I'm not.
Saying and I think, and I think he would do he will do the same

(35:41):
thing. I mean, even in arrogant, he was
trying it in arrogant. So again, it's not like he's
just being timid and just, and Ithink for me, what it showed,
and I mentioned this on my my Twitter X feed, that those
opening labs showed that if Pekohas the bike and the confidence

(36:05):
under him, he'd be able to challenge Mark.
Will he be able to maintain it over a whole entire season?
Maybe not, but he wouldn't be 110 points behind him during the
championship. You you just echo I think the
the the GP 25 isn't 125 2010 points bad?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So so again, we both know that

(36:27):
that that that bike is not 110. So whatever it again, and you
have to factor in that he's crashed out of races etcetera,
but he has issues. So what I'm saying, what I'm
basically trying to say is if Pekka wasn't experiencing the
issues he was he's been having and he was happy and comfortable
on the bike, 'cause when Pekka is happy and comfortable on the

(36:49):
bike, he's fast. Well, you know what's Mike?
You know what's Mark? You know what's Mark?
Fame to fame this season, right?No.
You know no what mark biggest tool in his armor this this is
that no one is as fast as him onreally worn tires, but no one
under but. We're not.
But that's not one. That's not my argument.
That's not what the argument is,not Ball Mark's capabilities,

(37:12):
right? No, what I'm trying to say is
looking at Pecker because Peckershouldn't be 110 points behind
Mark. Mark.
That's what I'm saying. We all agree with that, right?
He shouldn't even be what he's sent.
That means he's 70 points behindAlex.
Alex, he shouldn't be that far behind Alex.
But what I'm saying is those opening laps tells me that if

(37:36):
Pekko was in a position where from the start of the season
where the bike was, where how wewanted it, he was performing all
he wanted to perform and he had his confidence, he wouldn't be
that far behind Mark One. No, he wouldn't.
And he'd be all and he'd be verycompetitive.
And like I said, it then comes boils down to would you be able

(37:58):
to maintain that over the whole entire season?
Probably not because we know what Mark is like, but at least
we wouldn't be seeing the fluctuation in performance we've
been seeing from Peco. And you know, so those opening
laps for me just reaffirmed whatI always thought.
And I said it to you at the start of the year that if the
bike's competitive on Peco's happy, he's going to compete

(38:21):
with Mark. Will he beat him?
I don't think he would. I'd never thought he was going
to beat him to the championship but I thought he would be able
to be more competitive. He'd compete with him for polls,
he'd win. He'd beat him fierce going on
Sunday and win races. That's why I believe was going
to happen, but it's not. Happening anyone, anyone,

(38:41):
anyone, anyone who didn't believe that just anyone.
Mark is good, right? We all know this right?
But we don't no one expects Markto win 40 races, right?

(39:02):
Yeah, obviously if picker, if the bike if, if the if the if
the motorcycles were a picker wants it, it's going to be it's
going to be a slope face. It's going to be a fight.
Maybe it might be the same thingthat we saw.
Maybe if, if, if, if picker don't get my mark harded here in
the first 5-6 laps then and Marktackles, he's gone, right?
Because this is one of the issues now that hard.

(39:23):
And you remember a couple of episodes ago when we spoke and
I'm like, Marcus is settling into championship mode now.
I said a couple episodes ago, yeah, crashing Koda.
He crashed in Spain, crashed in Silverstone, right?
No points in Koda, points in Spain.

(39:45):
Finished well and bought him in Silverstone right so technically
he's only had one DNF yeah rightand that's quota and remember
after I said once he gets this out the way because you remember
even when we used to talk let's go back a little bit even before
we had the podcast what I alwayssay to you it's better to make
your mistakes when. Yeah, yeah.

(40:07):
Make you make a mistake. Your job points early in the
season. It's easier to recover at the
back end of the season. I'm saying that to say now with
Mark, I said couple episodes ago, he's going to chip into
championship mode where he's just going to wheel off.
I have a Windsor that's consistent, even if it's not win
podiums, podiums, podiums, podiums, right?
And we all agree that that's difficult to beat.

(40:27):
We always say, and Mark will beat you on your on your best
day. Good luck.
Beat him on his best day, right?Or on his worst day, it's a
podium. On someone else's worst day,
they're finishing out the pointsor they're finishing low down,
in, in, in. Kicking 10 right on Sunday.
So that's rough, that's hard to beat.

(40:48):
And not only that, it seems thatMark figured out those early
races. Mark still didn't understand the
Ducati right. So I think now what's going on,
he realizes that 'cause he said it, he said in the post race
interview said they figured out that I'm at my weakest with a
full tank of fuel. So Mark weaknesses a full tank

(41:11):
of fuel and when the rear tires got it is at its grippiest,
right? Which is why in the you realize
now he's more, he's not notice now he's starting making the
brake like when it's like 10 laps, right?
And it's 8 because now the grip is a bit down, the fuel is
starting to go down. So now he's at his strongest.
So now he's just, yeah, So what Pecker did on Sunday, if he had

(41:36):
a motorcycle underneath, he would have to do that every
single weekend and all that. Mark pushes Mark into a mistake
because once he settles, bro, that's that's potent bro.
And that's and that's the thing because if Pekka was was
relatively competitive, I think we then see Mark having to do

(41:58):
more to win races and to be on the pole.
I don't think he needs to do that much to get those
positions. And, and This is why I hope
Pekka was going to be competitive to start the year
because again, once he once he in that position, mistakes
happen. Mark's going to make mistakes,

(42:19):
Pekka's going to make mistakes. So it's it's going to be a
fluctuation between the two of them.
But at present, no one's really pressured putting Mark on any
pressure. So he doesn't really have to,
you know, go above and beyond toget the results he needs to get
because again, he he has the pace over Alex, he has the pace
over Pecker right now. He's important with Pecker's

(42:41):
issues. So, you know, it's pretty much a
foregone conclusion. I told you, I told you after
three races that the season, they might as well just give
Mark the trophy now because the season's pretty much over and
done. But there was no way he's going
to lose. He's going to lose his
championship and it's pretty much done. 40 point lead.
You know, he went into Pecker's yard, did the double, you know

(43:02):
what I mean? And.
And the Spanish. The Spanish took over the Roman
Empire this weekend. And he's come and you're talking
about he's coming up to tracks whereby his trucks, Saxon ring
Bruno, you know, I mean, these are his places.
You did say, you did say at the,when we did the Qatar review,

(43:22):
when you said, 'cause remember Iput it on my Twitter where we
said when the season started andMark went on that run, everyone
was like, OK, wait till we get to Europe.
And no, first was wait till we get to Qatar.
Qatar came. What happened?
I said wait till we get to Europe, right?

(43:45):
Europe. The Europe leg started because
you realize that Mark didn't wina European leg until Oregon,
right? Right.
So he went on A33 race drought. Because he didn't know no wins
at Yaris, Le Mond and Silverstone.
Silverstone now we fight it wentto it went to Oregon and then
they say Oh well, despite what when we get to Majello Majello's

(44:06):
pickle backyard, he wanted for pass how many years and then to
finish. The thing is, despite what's
going on with the motorcycle, I know that was a sucker punch to
pickle stomach bro to finish offto finish off the podium.
Yeah, I think, I think him not being on the podium is probably
the biggest sucker punch that I shall lose him to mark.
Because because the problem is right, when you think about when

(44:32):
people think Mark was bluffing when he was like, yeah, I'm
probably going to chase, pick on, I'm going on the defense in
Majello, he was like, he's bluffing.
No, he's not. Because he's not really.
He doesn't have a good record around Majello.
Yeah. Because his record around
Majello is just as bad as Silverstone.
He's only one that Majello wants.
Even though it's the first race that he won in his GP career,

(44:52):
it's not a good hunting ground for him.
So he's only had the one win there prior to all Sunday.
So he when you look at it, because even Alex, when he sees
his interview, he was confident you I was going to he was going
to beat Marc and Majello. He's I was confident.
He's probably he was probably going to be faster than his
brother. He was like by the weekend and

(45:12):
he start going, I realized that he's got the pace right.
So to come to Majello and then let's totally dominate that like
arrogant, right? And then now they're saying, OK,
let's go asin. Yeah, but who said OK, but
question, who are the people whoare saying, OK, let's wait until

(45:34):
Asin, who will say who are the people saying that?
Because we're what? How many races in?
9 we're in. 10 we're in. 10 race.
So we're going on race 10 now. Who are the people actually
saying this? Because if you haven't realized
after 9 races why you think 10 races going to be when you get
to race 10 is going to be any different.

(45:56):
You've had nine races, 9 races worth of evidence to prove to
you that yeah, this is just what's that said?
Nine, yeah, 9 races. So you have 9.
You have the evidence right there in front of you.
So all the people were saying, OK, wait until we get to here,
Wait until we get to you. What were they expecting?
It's going to happen. Mark's just going to suddenly
forget how to race at somewhere like Asin.

(46:17):
Who's going to, you know, who's going to beat him at Asin?
Because I guess you're looking at ASIN.
Pecker is really good at ASIN, right?
Doesn't matter, doesn't matter, but that's what.
I'm saying I guess, I guess, butyou're not.
I'm not mistaken. Mark has a good record at ASIN
as well. The thing is, it's not his best
stomping ground. But but he has a relatively good
record in comparison to everybody else.

(46:40):
I guess people are trying to just make a make something of
it, right, because it's it's youcan't have everyone to say,
well, it's all doom and group, you know, you still got to try
to bring some form of excitementto it, right?
And I think that's just what they're doing, right?
And it's it's I wish pickle was more competitive this year,

(47:08):
right. What is that what I said?
I have this interview with Michaela Piero, right?
And they asked him about the, the issues that Pico is having
on a motorcycle and they were like he said, The thing is the
motorcycles aren't much different as people think they

(47:29):
are GP. What what the what Alex is on
and what pick on Mark is on. He said.
I've written both of them and he's a test.
He's a test. Writer right?
Michelle Piero. Yeah.
So if, if there's someone I'm going to listen to, it's
probably going to be him, right?And I don't think he has any
reason to be biased about it, right?

(47:51):
Because at the end of the day, he's Italian.
He's probably going to, if he's going to make an excuse, he's
probably going to make it for the Italian, right.
But he was like, there's not much difference between the
motorcycles as people think theyare, he said.
I've written both of them. It's not that big of a
difference, yeah, but he needs. Some and the.
Thing is the the the smart. But The thing is, The thing is
the small difference between them is maybe that thing that's

(48:15):
affecting PEKKA the most. Exactly So for him, why is he
that's what I'm I was going to say, while he can say, OK,
there's not that much differencethat like you said that that
different, whatever the difference is, is crucial to
what's affecting Pekka's performance.
You know, and obviously people are talking about, you know, he
needs to ride around it. And I keep reminding him, look.

(48:38):
Doesn't have that talent. It's not even say he doesn't
have that talent. We have to and I don't, and I
don't know why. I don't know why that's a
negative, why we're going to usethat as a negative towards him.
No, no, no. People who think I'm saying to
you he does because to the writer, that's a talent within
itself. That's what I'm saying.
He doesn't have that in his toolbox.
Yeah. But you've seen it.
Yeah, but I don't know why people use that as a negative

(48:59):
because at the end of the day, each each ride, each purse rider
has the preference and holder. One things to be.
I'm sure if when the bike wasn'tgood for Alex, he wasn't
performing, you know what I mean?
So he needs you need, you need certain things to be in place
for you to perform as to your best potential.

(49:20):
I, I, I, I don't know why peopleare, you know, because Mark can
do it. You expect pecker should be do
it. They're two different people.
They're two different riders. And like, you know, I said to
someone or on my Twitter yesterday, Mark has experience
of riding difficult bikes because if you like you say, if
you go back and you look at the Honda, he basically masked the

(49:41):
issues the Hondas were having because he was able to, you
know, so for them, because Mark was able to do it, it's kind of
similar to like Formula with RedBull and Max, because they're so
talented, they make the the T issues that their teammates are
having doesn't to them, it really doesn't exist.

(50:04):
But at the same time, it's to that to that teammate, it's a
big problem because that affectsall the performance and it is
what it is, you know, the the two different people.
But I think I kind of went off track here, but.
You're saying about when people mentioned that Pecker doesn't
have a certain talent to ride around issues?
Yeah, I'm like. I guess no.

(50:26):
No, Is that what I was saying? Because I was, I think I was
coming off the Michelin period thing where he and I was just
saying, look, that difference iswhat Topeka, it's a massive
issue. And if it's, and if he needs, if
he needs, if he needs a perfect bike for him to perform, then so
be it. That's what he needs.

(50:47):
That's why he needs to perform. It doesn't mean he's not a good
rider because people look because people look at that and
think, well, he's not a good rider because if the bike isn't
perfect, he can't perform. Name me a rider on the grid
right now who can perform when outside of Mark, who can perform
above and beyond the bike? Probably Fabio.

(51:08):
Do more than can give you can give you better results than
what the bike. Is capable.
So we're just going to Maverick is not doing it on the KTM?
Are we going to forget that Maverick exists this evening?
But again, how bad is the KTM? It's bad enough, whereas like
there's the next superstar is struggling.
Acosta. He knows ahead of Maverick.

(51:31):
Maverick is just you guys think he got disqualified and then he
got lumped off the bike. OK, wise wise.
So Acosta is ahead of Maverick in the championship again.
How many times has Maverick not scored this year?
He got taken out by 5. We'll probably get to that later
on, but the point is if if that's what Pekka needs to

(51:53):
perform, that's what he needs to.
It doesn't mean he's he's not a good rider.
I. Don't think anyone is and he's
not a good. Rider, I think people are using
that against him and thinking well, because Mark, because Mark
can ride around it. Pekka is a no.
What are we doing? I, I personally think, I just
personally think that he shouldn't be 110 points.

(52:13):
No, he. Definitely.
I think we all, I think everyonewill agree being 110 points
behind your teammates is just, it's not a good look.
It's you shouldn't be 100, regardless of what issues you're
having, you shouldn't be 110 points and that's not a good
look. And and, and the crashes for
Mark actually make kind of help it not look that bad because at

(52:34):
Mark Wing Koda not crash out a, a, a, a, a, a spate like that
was happening. So we can't reduce efforts.
And maybe ultimately he's 110 in110 point hole, right?
And at this point of the season,110 points.
We've got 9, we've got 9 races so.
We have 15 left. Yeah.

(52:54):
And there's there's a 37 point each weekend, 37 points for each
weekend. So we're looking at what it's
983 sevens 21, so 100 and 100 and what that is not what that
would be. No, so, so we have what, 37
That's that's nearly 500 and some odd points.

(53:17):
No, I'm talking about in terms of like where we at now.
So it's 518 points still left toplay for into well in terms of
wins. No, I'm looking at 1 / 30.
I was looking at, I was looking at how many race weekends is

(53:37):
that? That's what, three race
weekends? What?
Oh, oh, and it's what how many points say it's a?
110 so that's actually race. Yeah, that's three races.
So you're working out 110 / 37. So that's three races, but that
would require Mark to be and if he he would need to win all

(54:00):
those three races and Martin needs to DNF in all those three
races and that's not going. To happen No, no, no, I'm
looking at, I'm not even looking.
I'm just looking at for just nine races and your three race
weekends behind not that's. Yes.
So he would lose it so on on average.
So that's what So how many points a weekend he would need

(54:20):
to be losing? So that's.
OK. So that's nine weekends.
So that's 110. Let's pull out the calculator
bro. Yeah, so he's lose.
He lost an average 12 points perrace weekend.

(54:41):
Tomorrow, yeah, that's, that's rough, that's rough.
And and if, if unless over the summer break or unless he could
pull something out the bag this weekend to kind of plug that
wound. Nah, it's just emerging bro.
It's going to get bigger. It's going to get bigger because

(55:04):
like we said, we have tracks coming up for Mark.
Let me see, let me just look at the calendar.
Right, 'cause after ASIN, yeah, Where is it?
Where are we? So after ASIN we have Germany
come on and then we have the Czech Republic.
So you have two marks. Best tracks coming up after

(55:25):
acid. Bruno and the Saxon Ring come
on. Really, really.
Saxon Ring is pretty much like Laguna Sake.
It's all left handers and then no one's going to be martyr.
And then this new track here, what's it called that this new
track on the, on the grid, on the?
Where's that one that's in? It's not from racism.

(55:46):
Look for the new one that's hungry.
That's hungry. Yeah, yeah.
They showed it to Mark, he said.He he said I like.
There you go because it's what it's our left handers as well
Yes, when they. Ask Mark.
Mark, look at the girls here. I like.
Yeah, I. Like, but he needs to be careful
because again, it's a new track,new time work and everything.
But I mean the 100 and it's here's the thing.

(56:11):
I like Pekko as a person. I've always said I like him.
He's not really my favorite ride.
Everybody knows I'm I'm a Fabio Quataro type guy anyway.
And I said and I never, I never backed down.
I say Fabio was on a bike anywhere as competitive as that
Ducati, he'd be giving Mark headache right now.
Facts. Nobody can deny that.
But I like Pekko as a person. I think he's.

(56:33):
I don't think so. What?
Because Fabio haven't proved to me that he's a he's an adaptable
rider yet. Again bro, we again.
Like I said, I meant. You know what, I'm everyone AV
4. We don't even know if Fabio can
ride AV 4. Let's just keep it up.
Again, like I said, I just said that's not what I said.
That's not what I'm saying I'm saying.

(56:53):
I'm saying I feel like if Fabio was on a bike anywhere as
competitive as that Ducati, he'dbe giving Mark Fitz.
That's just, that's just all I just, you might disagree, cool,
that's perfectly fine, but that's all I say.
But what I'm saying is going back to Peco, I like Pekka as a
person. He seems a very dawn to her,
respectable, nice guy, you know what I mean?

(57:16):
And some of the some of the negativity that comes his way
has nothing to do with him personally.
It's just, it's just down to it's just who who campies in.
But at the same time, I feel forhim because I don't think, like

(57:37):
we've said earlier, he's not a writer that's should be 110
points behind his team. He's not 110 points behind the
teammates or a writer. He's not he's not.
I think if anything, Mark, when all things are equal or
whatever, maybe being 30 points behind Mark is where he'd be at

(58:03):
this stage of the season, but not 110 points.
And I feel for him even more because it's going to get
bigger. Ultimately this is what it comes
down to. Heko is a nice guy from UPC.
I was close to him in Kota because when Mark, when Mark and
him came to the the Ducati island right after they finished

(58:25):
the interview, they threw the caps, signed some stuff.
He stayed longer than Mark. Mark went back into the car
because from what I see from Mark is just always locked in
when it comes down to our race weekend, right?
I saw say Mark is not going to be the one you're going to put
and be like, you'll turn him into a this.
Is the Max like? Is the Max Mustafa enough?
Yeah, he's, he's just, he's justlocked.
He's just locked in. That's what he's there for,

(58:46):
right? And I respect it, right.
Pick us it a little bit longer, which is why my photos were so
close. He came right in front of me.
But I had two cameras so I couldn't ask him to sign
anything, which was a bummer. But yeah, so the, the, this is
where is what we got to just thehonesty is what we're looking
at. Is this because Pickle is a

(59:07):
Ducati man? He's, he's Ducati's guy, right?
I think any rider, if if you're that guy and someone comes in,
if, if someone has a coming to Yama Yamaha and wash Fabio, we
would be, would be saying the same thing because everyone's
aware that's your house. So any more time anyone goes in
someone's house, this is the type of reaction you're going to
get it. It just it doesn't matter who it

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is, because if someone has to ever come to a team where Marcus
and Wash Oh, you would not you're there.
It would be the same for anyone if someone had come to Honda
Marks a day. It's not, it's not just that
it's who's coming to your house and again, and who's and the
camp you're you're aligned with makes it that much worse for
you. So you know, and like I said,

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it's going to get the points gapis going to get bigger by the
time we get to the summer break,we could be looking at Mark
could be 150 points, 160 points ahead of pick up.
Like I said to you this, I told you and again, I I told you, how
many times have I been saying it?
I've said it to you, I've said it to you after the first, I

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believe after the first two or three races, the championship is
over. Just give Mark the trophy.
No one's going to beat him. But you don't want to you you
keep talking about all things can happen accident.
I'm like yo nothing. Just jinx it bro.
Like you can't say that. We've been watching this thing
long enough, all right? All it takes is a bad call, a
collarbone and you're missing 3 races.
Bro no, we've seen no come back after it.

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He'd be at the race in the next race.
We mean mark 3 races mark. Mark is the mark right now.
He doesn't. He just needs to just I'm not.
Let's let him do his thing. I'm not going to say I've I've
been watching this sport long enough to know that it's never
over until the last five minutes.
Well, well, cool. You can, you can sit on that
fence. I'm I've jumped off that fence
long time. No, I think it's not like it's

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done. All all all going well and yeah,
Mark is going but what I'm saying to you, we've been
watching this sport, it's not just about turnover weekend and
everything goes well. We we've seen what happens in
this motor in in all forms of Motorsports.
So let's just let's just let them go through your season and
everyone ends up finishing healthy and fit and then we have
the conversation. I'm not going to let's go like
I've been watching. We've been watching this long

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enough, but yeah, let's. Let's to finish this off.
You know, it was that whole battle at the front, the whole
Ding Dong, that was probably themost exciting opening laps we've
had so far this season. And you know, as always, Mark
Prevails went on pretty much once he took the lead.

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You know, that was, you know, that was game over.
That was it. Let's move on to the next hot
topic after the race in Majella,which is Alex Marquez, right,
Still still running second. No, I could have the
conversation because people are just not being realistic.
So yeah, people are. So now there's this thing on,

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on, on socials that Alex races marked differently.
So initially when that came out,when when I saw it and you and I
had a back and forth on X because even though we do the
podcast, we still have a lot of back and forth on X.
It's just, it's just for the funof the sport.
That's that's our sport too, right?
It's just what we do, right? And I thought about it initially

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I was like, I erases him. But then I start about, I'm
like, OK, I see where this is going.
It's not that he doesn't race him.
People don't think he races him hard enough, right?
Correct. And so I thought about it and
I'm like, that makes a lot of sense, right?
Anyone who's been, because you have to remember there's a

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personal, there's a personal aspect to this is where you got
to look at it not from a fan perspective, but from put
yourself in that position, right?
And Alex is the one that went through in the experiences of
Mark, right, what he went through for the past how many
years, right, if he was ever going to race again, right?

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And so the people who expect Alex to turn about a race
weekend, right and put himself in any form a hard situation,
whereas like it could find him in the gravel trap.
It's just unrealistic, just unrealistic because people were

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when they started voicing this hecko in the press conference.
And I'm happy that he said it because he just kills the
argument. He said, yeah, I could see where
Alex made races mark different, but it makes sense because I
take more care with the VR46 riders as well.
So it's not uncommon, right? Everyone, this new racing that

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we see, everyone got their cronies, everyone got their
camps. So I don't know why people are
giving Alex stick when Alex is just going about his business,
as he said, he said I've got my sponsors to please.
I've got my own thing going on, right?
I'm going to race how I want to race, right?
But people just want him to raceMark Hart, shove it up the

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inside possibility, run off and grab it.
He's not going to do that. And I wouldn't do it if you and
I are siblings and if we're competing.
This is not basketball, this is not, this is not soccer.
This is an all different. This is a sport where it's like
I do something to you as my brother.
We MO we can both end up in the in the hospital or worse, right?
I'm going to always take more care of my brother.

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Yeah, but right, anyone is watching Moto GP and watching
the Marcus brothers, right? And think there's not an
emotional aspect to Alex and hisapproach towards Mark Y'alla
living. Then then he's then then he
needs to get off the grid. Then you can't say that yes, you
can't say that yes, because holdon, hold on a second, hold on a
second, hold on a second. Hear me a second, hold on a

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second. So if me, if hold on, let me
hear me out. So if I'm, if I'm Gracini,
right, faster. Gracini died, I believe he died,
didn't he? Yeah.
So I think his wife or whatever running the.
Team Yes, his wife is running. The so if I'm his boss right and
I can see say he has the tools right compete with Mark, but

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every weekend he's. He's really compete with.
Mark, listen to that's not what I'm saying.
That's not what I'm that is not what that is not what I'm saying
I'm putting out. I'm no, I'm putting out a
scenario where I'm saying if I'mthe team boss and what you're
saying to me is how Alex is thinking on the grid because of

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that thinking he won't race his brother if an.
And he's not racing him, bro, stop that he.
Won't. No, I'm not going to stop,
sorry. So I'm not going to.
Stop a lie I'm not. Going to that.
Is a lie. I'm not because I've given you
examples to erase them and you cannot tell me enough.
You erase them in Qatar, almost ram them off the.
Track right? You give me 3.
There's been 9 erases. Erase them in quarter.

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Erase them in Argentina? That's right.
Erase them in. Erase them in Ereth, right?
And then in France, France was just a total shambles because no
one was really supposed to be inFrance, right?
And then where did they go afterthat?
They went to Silverstone and he crashed in the first corner,
right? And then after that, we everyone
realized that, oh, actually the Ducatis are in trouble at

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Silverstone, right? So you can't even count Silvas
because he was way back behind Mark after the restart, right?
We know. Look, we're not going to go on
ball picking. The point people are trying to
make here is when Alex gets, when Alex finds himself in a
position, right, he doesn't eventry and create an opportunity

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for himself. It's a case of whereby he's once
he gets into second and Mark is leading, he's just going to sit
there and consolidate second andleave it at that.
He's not going to try and say, you know what, let me see if I
can, you know, create. Let me try and create an
opportunity for myself. Let me see if I can up the pace
or whatever it is, do something,the people.

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Are saying that the people are saying that they're just talking
off emotion because when you watch Alex.
Marcus, were you talking off emotions as well?
Because you, you're trying to say Alex Marquez.
First time there's a lot of things going on with Alex,
right? Alex is in a position right now,
right? He's in the best position that
he's ever been in in his motor GP career, right?
So the The thing is, Alex is starting to realize that he

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picks up on the fact that you know what, because he even said
it. He said if I do these things
that Mark is doing, I will not have any tire left at the end of
the race, right? He was like, Mark is great and
everyone knows it. That's why I said to you at the
start of the pod, that's Mark tool in his armor that no one
else could match. This is high dominance, right?
So, Alex, so because of that, you don't try anything?

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Why would you put yourself in that situation to find you off
the podium? So it's OK then.
So basically, so that's so you proved my point then because he
knows Mark is good on the tires.He's not going to race him.
He's just going to whatever, OK,Just let me just sit in the
back. He's going to.
If he gets the opportunity, he'sgoing to take, but he's not just
going to go to say, you know, I'm just going to make because
at the end of the day he was like, I'm not going to have any

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tie at the end of the race. Yeah, but everyone.
Strategically, but but dude, butwho's to say if he tries
something right, right and he puts Mark in and try and put
Mark in an uncomfortable position, it creates a problem
for Mark. We don't know because he hasn't
he's not doing that. That's what people are saying.
You saying you guys keeps No, no, hold on.

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You guys keep saying Oh, he does.
He doesn't have the peace is. To create these things like this
is crazy. Dude you don't have to be as
fast as him to create opportunity.
We've seen people who are slowerthan other people do things to
try and create. A picker.
Isn't fast not against? Pick.
Pick me one. Dude was Peck is Peck of Peck is

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not faster than Alec, than Mark.But in Mugello he did try
something. He created opportunities for
himself and. What did it end up because what
he. Did talking about where he.
Bro this is a championship that's created by points at the
end of. The day and how you think Alex
is going to win the championship?
How else? How can Alex?

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How can Alex win the championship?
Alex is 40 points behind Mark Marcus, right?
And how is he going to win the champ?
If he's going to win the championship, how can he win the
championship? By beating Mark.
OK. And how is he going to beat
Mark? Oh, so, so Alex is going to be
so PEKKA won't beat Mark overseas and even on the equal
machine, but Alex can do it. Oh.
My God, you guys, I think we should move on because you're

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you're literally not willing to see the the point I'm trying to
make it No, no. No here, no win.
But you won't put Pecker in it. That's great.
Because Pecker is Pecker is out and running for the championship
if. Pecker was on the same back.
You don't see him beating Mark overseas, but you expect Alex
but. Jesus, I never said I expect
Alex to do it, but you're talking about point how many

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points where did? He finish, if he doesn't beat
Mark, where is where is he goingto finish in the championship?
Bro you're literally all. You're literally just all over.
You're not. I'm asking you.
No. The best place Alex is going to
finish his second if he doesn't beat Mark, right?
Right. Yeah.
Alex is in a position where he could bring home Gracini's.

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I think he's going to be Gracini's best finish, right?
He's having a purple patch in his career, right?
And Alex has figured out I need to write.
Write I need to do the best thatI can on this motorcycle, right?
And I need to be strategic with my races because ultimately
there could be a situation where.
You're literally making the. You're literally making

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everybody's argument because. Basically, no, I'm not.
Yes, you are. Because basically what you're
saying basically. Hard enough there's a
difference. He is racing bro.
Y'all race nothing. He's not racing him hard.
Yes, he does not need to race him hard.
Why not? Right, he doesn't need to read
because that's. Does Alex?
Does Alex have aspirations of winning the Motor GP

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championship? Every writer is on the grid at.
Does Alex have aspirations to win in the Motor GP
Championship? Yes or no?
No. OK, so how is he going to win
the Motor GP Championship if he's just happy to finish
second? It's because Alex has got his
own strategy. Everyone's got their strategy
out to win, so he knows. You're not going to again
finish, finish in second, finishgo.

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If he has aspirations to win, bro, if he has aspirations to
win the championship, right, he cannot be happy with finishing
second every single race. That's not a that's give me out.
That strategy is not going to win you the championship if
that's your aspiration. Equal machine will not beat
Mark, but he's saying Alex. You're not listening.
You're not listening. You're hearing, no, you're

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hearing different things to whatI'm actually saying to you.
Hold on. You just said it earlier on.
You said even if Peka wasn't you're, you're hearing.
Something different to what I'm saying to you.
Listen to what I'm saying to youagain, bro, Listen, I said to
you, if Peck, if Alex has aspirations to win the
championship, right, he's not going to win that championship
being happy to finish second every single race.

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So that strategy, strategy that you keep saying he has, it's not
going to get him what he wants. So how are you going to get, how
are you going to eat into that 40 point lead of Mark?
You're going to have heart yes, you're going to have to race him
hard, but you're going to have to be strategic.
You're going to have this come. They're racist.
No, you're going to be finished.The race is where obviously he's

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going to have to be strategic, but at the same time, you're not
going to reduce that gap to markif you're just happy to finish
second. That's the point I'm trying to
make. I.
Didn't answer this question straight.
Can Alex Marcus beat Mark Marcusoverseas?
No, no. What are we talking about then?
If he can't do it, what are you?What are we talking?
About so so because he can't do it, he shouldn't try.

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That's what you're saying he's trying.
Trying on his own, He's just nottrying in your way.
He's my. How can you say, how can you
say, how can you say he's tryingwhen you're the one hear me or
no hear me? How can you say he's trying when
you're the one who's saying he has a strategy, right?
He races strategic, right? And this is how he chooses to

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race. You talk about how him thinking
about what's happened to you with his brother the last three
years. So he's not going to do
anything, whatever he's. Not going to take unnecessary
risk. What's hard?
No one's going to, again, no one's asking him to take
unnecessary risk. No one is asking him to do that,
etcetera, etcetera. So how is the that strategy
right that he's run using now going to help him if it's OK, We

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all know he's not going to beat Marco for a season, but at least
try. Y'all who are talking about this
ain't paying attention. What's 1 of the biggest issue
that the whole Moto GP grid is having?
Product and everyone, reporters,journalists, what?
What's the issue that they're having?
Don't know with Moto GP overtaking, right?
That's the biggest issue with Moto GP.
The tires are overtaking. Everyone is talking about what
they keep doing. All you keep doing is finding

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excuses. Excuses.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're literally going.
What I'm trying to point is thaty'all who are saying that he's
not racing him all of a sudden, oh, create this, create that.
Moto GP has an overtaking issue.We've seen it right?
Pecker talks about it. He can't overtake it, but
everyone expects oh Alex do thisso you could you're.
Not you're not. You're hearing you're hearing a

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different argument. No, I'm hearing exactly what I'm
hearing. You're saying he needs to raise
some art in order for Alex to beat Mark.
He needs to be. He's gonna have to have a pace
him, right? Y'all are saying, oh, he needs
to rough him up, show him up front with this and that Yeah,
there's nothing wrong if Alex doesn't see the opportunity REC
and I'm like, this is too risky,right?
I'm not going to take SO. Then so then yes, there is some

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yes, there is something wrong with that.
You know why? You know why there's something
wrong with that. You know it's.
Against a VR it's right and it decides to make a second second
guess it or basically goes against a VR4 and a second
guess. Is there something wrong with
that? You know why there's an issue
with? With what?
I'm asking with what I think theVR46 riders take the same care

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that Alex takes with Mark. Is there something wrong with
that? Is there some?
Point the same. Care that Alex takes with Mark,
with dear Cam Cam Cam Cam Cam colleagues, is there something
wrong with that? But they race the camp
colleagues again. No, no, no, no, no, no, no your
question. Hold on bro.
Let me let me finish. Let me let me try and answer

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your question. Let me try and answer.
Let me try and answer your question.
Let me try and answer your question.
Because this comes back to what Peko said when he said he races
the VR 46 guys. He takes whatever takes more
care when he races the vRS 46 guys again, but he's still going
to raise them. What he's not going to do is

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make any reckless moves or anything reckless that endangers
them and himself and either party finishes off the race, out
the race. No one is saying that's what
Alex needs to do. Nobody's saying Alex, you should
go out there and you should do something reckless and force
Mark off the track. Nobody is saying that.

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What people are saying is we'd like to see sometimes when he,
when he's like two or three tenths behind Mark going into a
break in. So try not break him do.
Something if he did OK, and that's what I'm saying.
Y'all are crazy because if he's if, if he's seen that, if he
comes down and we're like, yo, if I go too much in a break, I'm
probably going to crash his motorcycle.

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I'm not going to take that route.
You cannot blame the kid for that.
Never mind. That's what I'm saying to y'all.
Because, because, because he's. The one on the motorcycle and if
he thinks that, yo, I'm you're saying.
You OK? So OK, so he's the one on the
motorcycle and he but you're thesame people who went.
Hold on. But you're the same people when
Pecker's been saying he has an issue with the bike or telling
him he doesn't have an issue with the bike, but it's but

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Alex, but Alex is on the bike and you're that's two different.
Things that's two different things.
I'm saying to you that what y'all are saying that he needs
to if he's two chance trying to operate Mark bro, there's very
few people on the Moto GP grid that could operate Mark Marcus.
There's very few people in the Moto GP grid grid when Peko is
on his daycare and outbreak Pekko.
So stop making seems like a. Great again, but you're talking,
you're making your argument, you're trying to make an

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argument of saying because because this person is not that
they can't try something again. If you watch them going into
arms. So that was turn 1, turn one
turn that the corner where Mark,where Mark was strong at, where

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Mark did is over there. I think it's turn four or five.
I believe it was pickle pickle. Oh great, Mark.
And he ran a bit what ran deeperinto the corner that he needed
to do to do in cases like we've seen it many a times, bro,
somebody look at. No.
No, no, no, no. Let me finish.

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Go back to go back to Le Mans. I watch.
I watch how Fabio got past Mark in Le Mans at the start of the
race, right? Mark outbreak Fabio going into
the Fabio took his normal breaking line, Mark outbreaked
him going into the goal. What happened?
He ran wide and Fabio did on thecutback and took the position.
That's literally what you you, you will.

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See, so that's 2 examples we've never seen where riders do it
and. You've been watching Moto GP
long enough to to to come to theconclusion that if somebody else
breaks someone, they're going toT-bone them and possibly killing
them. That's a, that's, that's a.
You've gone to the extreme. I said that's why I asked you if
you remember what happened when Valentino Rossi tried out with

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Casey Stone. He's still not trying to answer.
That question, that was when? When was that?
He tried to outbreak him and wiped out Casey Stone.
That's the part. The case of Stoner The case of
Stoner died. He didn't die.
So you're telling me that. OK, Alex.
No, you. No bro, you're the one who went.
That's what I'm saying. You're the one who went to that

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far end of the spectrum and talking about death.
Inability. I didn't say death.
I did not say that. Wait, what did he?
Say what did he say? He said skedaddling.
Like skittle him out the way. I did not say nothing about
death, bro. What did you say?
Anything you need to listen. I said skedaddle.
I didn't say death. OK, fine, but the point here is
you. You that's a possibility as

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well, but there's but. But there's also a possibility
that don't happen. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying
to y'all. Y'all 1 Alex, it is.
It's not going to happen, right?Y'all are asking this?
Is not going to happen because Alex don't Alex Alex pretty
much. Is not going to take the risk
that could take his brother at. The risk, that's what I'm
saying. I'm not sure.

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I don't even. Why are we even having this
conversation? Because anyone, any sensible
person could understand that. Any person who is rational could
understand why a writer right, who are brothers right would may
not put himself or put his brother in a certain type of
risk. But what again?
Again, what risk is he putting him in by trying to overtake

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him? Because the things that we are
saying, right, try to outbreak him, try to do this.
If Alex do, I see Alex, if he gets a clear shot, he's going to
take. We cannot try to make it say
that, but. But you see, you see the
problem? You're saying if he gets a clear
shot, rather than saying, you know what, he can actually make
an opportunity, try and make an opportunity for himself rather
than because what he's relying. There's two things Alex is

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relying on here, right? Two things he's relying on to
beat Mark 1. Mark makes a mistake, right?
Or two, he's at a race where Mark was pretty much well off
the pace. Those are the only two that
these are the things he's banking on.
Or it could be a situation whereit's like he gets a clear shot,

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even Mark is not off the pace and he could take the
opportunity. He's just not going to take a
risky one. That's OK, But why are we having
this conversation? Why are people mad at that?
Never mind, I don't even know I put that on.
The yeah it's a non argument. No, it's a non argument because
you guys don't want to objectively have the argument
because you keep saying. You and I are brothers, right?
Let's keep it a book and be honest about it.

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If you and I are you and I are brothers.
And if we competed in a sport like this, right?
If I see you as my bigger brother who's went through hell,
whereas I'm like, damn, my brother may not ever race again.
And I know he's got this potential.
I know he's it may never come. You know, it's crazy.
And I live with you and I see you go through that sufferation
to the point where you're like, I'm going to retire.

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And I'm the one that says, why don't you come to Garcini?
Why don't you come and try this over here to see what, what,
what, what's going to happen, right?
And then it works out. You come and I see you, right?
And I see you doing well. And now you're in the fracture
team and you're looking like I'mlooking at you with love.
I'm not looking at you as a competitor.
Let's keep it at Buck. Let's let's, let's, let's be
honest about this. I'm looking at you as my Big

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Brother, like, yo, my bro is really back.
My brother is a goal. You're my brother.
I'm OK with you being a 20 time world champion.
That's OK, right? So I'm looking at you now as my
Big Brother doing the thing. I'm like, yo, my brother is back
with his full potential and he'swinning, right?
My first point of call is like, I'll race my brother the best I
can, but what I will not do if Idon't see a clear shot, whereas

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like I could really race my I'm not going to put my brother in a
situation that could put him in the gravitrap breaker
collarbone. Nothing like that.
You got to understand that, bro.Come on, let's keep it above.
You have to understand then if that's the if that's the
mindset, that if that's the mindset, then we shouldn't be
racing in the same category. Bro, so you're going to sit here

(01:22:23):
and I'll tell you as as your younger brother, I'm like yo-yo,
I'm going to race. You know, You know why?
You know why? You're a lie.
No, you're a lie. You want me to tell.
You know why I'm going to tell. You know why.
No. You will not do that to me
either. You're a lie.
That's a lie, bro. You will not do that to me
because first you're going to dothat for anything else.
You're going to lie. Yo, that's my little brother.
If that was me first you're going to be, that's my.

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I'm going to race him, but I'm not going to put him in a bad
position if I don't think that. If I'm going to.
If I'm, I'm going to go into every thinking, I'm I'm, I'm
here to protect my brother, to make sure nothing happens to me,
not. Protect.
He's not protected. He's not protected.
That's that's a form of protection, dude.
No, You know why it's a form of protection?

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Because with anybody, hear me out, Because with anybody else,
you wouldn't be, I wouldn't be having thinking that I'd be
looking at that next person. Let me finish.
I'd be looking at that next person thinking, yeah, that's
that's my competitor. I'm here to beat that person
with what you describe is a mindset of a protection mindset.
So you're looking at, so Alex islooking at Mark and saying, OK,

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because he's been through all ofthese things or whatever.
I'm not going to try. I'm not going to race him hard
like how I'd race everybody. So I'm going to be.
I'm going. And that's OK.
Again but but. And if you're saying that you
wouldn't do that to me if you and I are coming, you're lying,
bro. I'm not lying.
You know why you know and no. And I tell you why I'm not hold.

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On because that aspect as because you know what, you're
not only on the track couple weekends a month.
We're living together. You see me every day.
There's always going to be that that love that's going to be
there if you and I have that type of race.
Exactly. So, so, so our bond, our bond,
our bond goes beyond the race track.
So what happens on the race track stays on the race track,
right? It doesn't affect what happens
outside. So so.

(01:24:09):
Not when I see you almost lost your arm, bro.
Come on bro, like let's keep it above.
Not when I see you almost lost an arm.
It's different bro. Let's keep.
Let's be honest about this. I cannot blame Alex if he
doesn't want to take risky moveson the brother if he gets an.
Upset he needs no one needs to say no something under.
The element, if he sees it as a risk, I'm like are he's like yo,

(01:24:30):
I'm here and this may not work out well if I try to outbreak
him right here. You know what they made us sit
in behind and then see if I get a girl.
That's OK Race you're not. Listening to what I'm saying to
you, no one is saying Alex should take me unnecessary risk.
Nobody is saying that and everybody understands.
Yes, they're brothers. Of these let.

(01:24:51):
Me finish, let me finish, Let mefinish, let me finish, let me.
Finish, I said. Let me finish.
You know several races where youlet.
Me, just let me finish. Let me finish.
Let me finish it. What I'm saying right?
Nobody's asking Alex to take unnecessary risk.
Nobody's saying, you know, do something that's going to
skedaddle mark all to the race or whatever, because you can't

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do that right. But at the same time, we
understand that your brothers and obviously you're going to
race. But what people would like to
see on a more consistent basis is like show us that you
actually want to win the championship rather than seeing
be seen as completely happy withjust finishing second, second,
second, second. He's like you're the you're both

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there for with the same goal to win the championship.
OK, I might not win it. I'm not going to beat you to the
championship. But you know what?
At least I'm going to give it a damn good try rather than just
sitting here thinking, OK, because you're my brother and
this has happened to you over the past few years.
I'm not going to I'm not going to try to do something.

(01:25:55):
I'm 40 points behind you. So that means you're in the
you're in with a chance of winning the championship.
How are how are how are you going to get that 40 point
deficit down? It's not going to come down by
you being conservative when you're racing mark.
It's not going to happen. So it's so you so you.
So the question now becomes do you want to win a championship

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or are you just happy to finish P2 in the championship?
But anyway. So we got.
That Acosta, we've talked about this kid before.
Well, he crashed in the Sprint race.
I can't even remember. I can't even.
I probably should start keep a count of how many times he has
crashed this year. And we talked about this early

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in the year. Being quick is one thing, but if
you can't stay on the bike, you're not going to last long in
Moto GP. Is this a problem for for
Acupedra? No.
Why? I don't see Pedro going anywhere

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anytime soon. He's too.
He's too much of A talent. Yeah, but no.
Listen to the question again. He's fast, but staying on the
bike seems to be a problem. If he continues like this, do
you see him staying in Moto GP alone?

(01:27:20):
Hell yeah. Even even we don't see him
crashing of. Course.
So you don't think his him crashing this so much is a
problem? No.
Not for the Moto, not for the Moto GP buses, no.

(01:27:43):
Why no? Why not?
Because The thing is with Pedro,right?
So the talent is there. We know that, right, and it's
like energy, right? It's like having energy, right,

(01:28:06):
a powerful energy and you just need to harness it to kind of
control it right, or to that's what Pico, that's what Pedro is,
bro. He's a but he's a bag of talent,
but I guess he's not in the system, the right system yet to
kind of harness that and kind ofkind of channel that the right
way. He's still wild.
He's still he's he's unchanneledenergy bro, so.

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Who, who, Which pass rider will you compare him to?
Pass Rider. Because I've got one in mind.
Let. Me see and Moto GP.
Yeah, because I've got one in mind.
It's kind of, it's kind of toughfor me because he's won both

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categories already. I don't know forget about
winning championships in other category but which past multi
Jeep rider was similar to that? Crashes a lot in recent times.
MC Yeah, in recent times. Last couple years, Last couple

(01:29:17):
years. Casey stolen.
You see if you go back and remember when Casey Stoner was
on the Lucia Chicanello on the RC211V, that boy would crash
like everywhere this weekend. Go back and go back and watch.

(01:29:37):
Go back and watch Katie go back and watch Casey Stoner when he
was on that Honda, he was quick so but he was always crashing.
He crashed a lot. So if that's a comparison,
there's no way you think Pedro Costa is not going to be on the
Moto GP grid, then there's no way.
But what? But my my thing here is Stoner
was on a was in a satellite team.

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Acosta is riding for a factory team.
Yeah, trash factory team bike istrash.
Yeah, but OK. But this didn't just come start
this year. He was crashing last year as
well. Yeah, but The thing is, when
these teams are looking for riders, they don't care about
the crashes. Why not?
Because the crashes they could fix.

(01:30:23):
That could be fixed, right? Because the crashes are are due
to that rider's speed. What?
But we do know that he has speed.
Speed is not an issue. The thing is, you could fix a
rider, right? You could fix our dialing, the
radical dialing, crashing. But where you can't, you can't.
Speed is a whole different thingbro.

(01:30:44):
Have you ever considered, have you ever considered that by, you
know, dialing them in for them not to crash, they lose that
speed? No, not really because if you,
if you remember when, if you remember when Marquez went to
motor 2/20/11, he crashed out ofthe first five races, right.

(01:31:13):
And what they knew we had the speed.
No one was starting to look likeit crashed out of five races on
the on the on the run. I think it's 5 right?
But over time he dialed that in.He figured out how to how to
stop crashing and he went on a run and clawed back 80 some
points from Stefan. Brother right?
Yeah, but that. But again, I don't think we can

(01:31:34):
use that as a comparison becauseyou have to remember that was
Marcus's first year in Motor 2. All about now I'm just saying to
you, I'm just talking about speed talent versus crashing.
You could fix the crashing. The talent doesn't go and the
speed, he's too young for the speed to go right now, right.
So Pedro Acosta has got along unless he starts becoming slow.

(01:31:57):
Whereas like, you're slow and you're crashing.
Yeah, I could see him out of there, but he's fast.
So the crashing that that, that,that will come dialing the
crashing, that will come with a bit more experience.
So I don't think Pedro is is going anywhere anytime soon.
You ask me. He's too much talent to get to
get kicked off. I don't know I because I tweeted

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it after three start. No long.
Nakagami was on the grid For howlong?
Yeah. But but Nakagami not going to
get put in there. How long?
How long Stephen Brado was on the grid for?
Yeah, but how long? Brado wasn't on the grid for
long. He wasn't on the grid for long.
Nakagami is not going to get. He did.
He did a good run. Stephen Brado got a good run on
the LCR. Got well, I think two years or

(01:32:40):
three years. I think he got thing he did.
He was not a grid. That long?
He wasn't that grid that long before he.
He had a good he had a good run,but over long.
But as no, to answer your question, no, Pedro, Pedro ain't
going anywhere anytime soon. Pedro is too much talent.
Well, Pedro, Pedro, Pedro, Pedrobefore Pedro falls off the grid,

(01:33:00):
he's probably going to go to another team and I see Pedro.
Yeah, man, Pedro is too much talent.
That's not even a conversation. Again, the crashing for him is a
problem. The crashing is, is, is a
problem. And I think it's if he continues
like that, it's going to be it'speople are going to look at
something. I don't think because being
fast, being fast, if you if you're fast and you can't stay

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on the bike, that's not beneficial to to anybody.
As I said, you could fix Crashing Row.
You can't fix speed and talent, so it'd be alright.
Yeah, Pedro is going to be on the grid.
Pedro. Pedro career is on a no threat
right now. OK, that's interesting.
Well, I think yeah, because. You have I didn't think about

(01:33:43):
this, right, Just think about all on the grand scheme of
things, right. Look at this got six motorcycles
on the grid, right? Six, just put up five, six,
right? And look at the riders.
Run those six motorcycles right.Two of those seats easily could

(01:34:06):
go to Pedro if Ducati really wants it.
We know Fermin Fermin's on a Ducati.
Fermin ain't going nowhere. Fermin's on a Ducati contract.
Yeah, Fermin ain't going nowhere.
DG is not on A DG is on a Ducaticontract.
Yeah, he's on a Ducati contract.So it's only morbidly, and you
know who's the other guy who's Alex's teammate?

(01:34:30):
No, that's Fermin. Fermin.
It's Mobidelli. 6 bikes are 6 bikes are well move the factory
team you. You're looking at Alex Furman
Gracie and agent Antonio Morbidelli.
They are 46. Yeah, so all to that 4 is Alex
only and Alex and Morbidelli. And Alex, current farm, you put

(01:34:54):
Alex, you really put Alex in that, in that.
No, but what what I'm saying is there's only those are the only,
yeah, those are the only two riders that. 2 is it 2 VR 46
riders? Is it 2 VR 46 riders?
Even though that DJ is even though DJ is on a on a on a
democratic contract, DJ is stilltoo inconsistent for me.

(01:35:16):
Really. Yeah, I mean, he's got he he
comes good, but he's he's still too inconsistent.
I mean he hasn't strong. If I'm not misusing, he has more
points. He has more points than than
Frankie, more podiums than Frankie.

(01:35:37):
But Frankie's leading Frankie still are Ford in the
championship. Where the hell is this
championship standing? I can never seem to work this
bleeding website to see where the standings are.
You know I. Think, I think it's it's Mark,
Alex Beko, Frankie Didier. Yeah, I can't.

(01:35:58):
For some reason this thing won'tshow me the.
Oh yeah, here you go. Yeah.
Frankie's fourth BG's. What, 5th?
Yeah, he's 5th. He's only, what, eight points
behind him? Behind Frankie?

(01:36:20):
Yeah. So I said it to say Bro Pedro's
could definitely get a Ducati ride, but it doesn't sound like
he wants a Ducati ride though. Unless he's stupid, why would
you want to go Ducati? I think it's bro if you think,
if you think he's going to, I think he's going to want the
same situation as Mark if he's going to go Ducati, he wants to

(01:36:44):
go in a factual team, doesn't want to go in a satellite team.
Well, well, he's got to go through a satellite team if the
if the if a eight time world champions should go to a would
go to a satellite team who you think you are that's.
That's true. Yeah, yeah, you go even even if
Alex, cuz I think Alex is putting himself in a shopping

(01:37:07):
window for a factory ride somewhere.
I don't know where, but he's putting himself in the shopping
window. I.
Right. I don't.
I don't probably because I've heard him make make noise about
the GP25 where he he's not looking forward to riding that
GP25 next year. Doesn't sound like he's.
So I mean, which factory team? I don't think he's gonna.

(01:37:28):
He was at Honda, wasn't he? Yeah.
He's not gonna go back to Honda.So right.
We're pretty gone. So it's I mean with chips, bro,
with Martin, with Martin lookingto John ship at at prayer.
Could he end up in a Yeah he? Could The thing is this he could
end up at Honda depends on the chips.

(01:37:50):
You know, you never know, but I'm just saying that I said
that's Pedro. Pedro could definitely get a
Ducati seat. So it's just to answer your
question now, Pedro ain't going no where am I, Pedro?
Pedro pitcher's probably going to arrive for at least two more
teams before anything before before he leaves the grid.
Well, he needs to fix that because again, having all the
talent in the world and being fast, but you're crashing every
other, every other race is not agood look, period.

(01:38:13):
And you know, it's, it's like that Moto GP, that Formula One
thing, you can, you can teach a fast driver how to race, but you
can't teach to become a good race driver or something like,
or something like that. I, I can't remember.
It goes, but you can't teach us.You can't make a slower driver

(01:38:33):
fast. I, I, I think that's what they
said. I can't remember.
But either way, for the talent that Pedro Acosta has has, he
shouldn't be crashing so much 'cause we're he's, what is he
behind? He's still a leading KTM.
He's still a leading KTM. He's what the next best KTM is

(01:38:55):
Vinyalis of 50 fours and so he'swhat, 3030 ahead of Vinyalis?
And to and to what you're going to say in Moto GPS as simple as
this. You could, you could, you could
you? You could teach a crasher to
stop crashing. You could learn to stop crashing
where you can't teach a crasher to go fast.
True. You know what I'm saying so

(01:39:17):
well, Leisure is good, bro. Let's, let's, let's see what
happens. He can't crash at ASIN this week
though. Yeah, pleasure is good if he
crashes in. Asin this week I need to get, I
need to go back and start check and see how many races he
crashed out of this year becauseI want to keep a track of it
because yeah, that's not a good look.
Yeah. All right.
And so the next one let's let's.So there's a quick one, DJ.

(01:39:39):
So we already discussed pickup coming out the podium and it was
DJ who denied him. We just mentioned DJ.
Yeah, DJ is fast. He comes on well in races and I
think he's kind of getting a, he's always at a qualifying
issue, but I think he's getting AI think he's getting a better
hang of the 2025 of the GP25 more than Peko in race
situations. Funny enough, they're both

(01:40:01):
having the same and the same having this complaint of the
same issues with the bike as well.
Well, I mean, how many times hashe finished ahead of pick of
this season? So do we think it's it's a case
of that and the pet issue pickerhad or?
He got to take qualifying into consideration, bro.
He doesn't qualify well, but if he's, if you look at his race
pace, even at the back in the race, yeah, super quick.

(01:40:21):
Like sometime, sometime is even the I think yesterday he was the
fastest Ducati at the end of therace.
So basically he's NEA Bastiani then?
Right. 2.0 yeah, he just needs to qualify well, right?
If he could qualify well, he could compete.
Because where did he, where did he start?
Where did he start in the race? Hold on.
Let me just check something. I'm trying to remember where he

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started. Hold on.
Yeah. So he qualified 7th.
That's not bad. Yeah, but I think he kind of
doffed up the start. Yeah, but then that's that's not

(01:41:10):
a qualifying issue. He qualified 7 so that wasn't
really a bad qualifying for him.But let's let's see how he
carries on 'cause like I said, he's what?
He's currently what? Behind Frankie in the standings?
Yeah, he's what? Just behind Frankie, he's. 5th
he's 5th in the standings right now, so let's let's see how that

(01:41:34):
one goes anyway, so just just ona final note, the Marcus is the
the young protege Max Keeles finally wins his first race in
Moto 3 by a what? How how much do you really need
by less than 1/10 less than 1/10.

(01:41:57):
He won it by, which was a good race because This is why it's
fifth race, because he had to sit out the first four or five.
Was it four or five? Yeah.
He debuted that. No, the first two.
So it's so he debuted that quarter, quarter.
So they say seventh race and he's already and he has a win on

(01:42:19):
this build. I think he's slowly getting up
to speed with it with the when he.
Qualified off the front row, right?
Yep. This is and then there's all
he's racing. This is the first time he's
qualified off the front row since his debut.
There you go. And he's followed in the
footsteps of Mark because he gothis Audi goal.
He got his first win in Modello,just as Mark did.
And I think he got his forward first pole position in

(01:42:43):
Silverstone, just as Mark did, Ithink.
Right. So he's following in good
footsteps, and that's his mentor.
So yeah, because, you know, we lost, you know we lost the Red
Bull Rookies championship, right?
Yeah, he told me. You know how we lost it?
No. Yeah, you got banned for two

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races at the end of the season. So he was a wild he made a crazy
sweep across the track and a rider end up in a bad situation
and they banned him for two races and which is why after the
race when he said, you know, that actually helped him, which
so he's, as I said, pre season bro, he's a talent to watch.

(01:43:28):
He's a super talent as well and which brings us on talking about
race bands and all this stuff. Just it just catapult us right
into Frankie morbidly and his shenanigans with Mavericks.
So Frankie is becoming a nuisance, right?

(01:43:49):
And it's just because they did away with the point system as
well as to why? Because it's hard to police like
long life penalty. I think that was more than a
long life penalty, but he turnedit into a double long life
penalty anyway, so. Because he he the penalty.
God was listening. I saw what happened.
But hold on a second. I'm not sure that was the case,

(01:44:12):
you know, because there's no waythat long lap, the long lap he
had, he finished pretty much finished in the same.
Where did he finish? No, but daily he finished 6th.
Yeah, the penalty, it didn't make any sense.

(01:44:33):
He should have had not gotten our ship and more harsh penalty
than that, right? Yeah, that was that was
reckless, right? There was nowhere to go.
He just literally just just scared him out the way He's
becoming a nuisance on the track.
He's having his tendency to blocking people on hot laps.
He's he's just doing a bunch of craziness and for experienced
guy and even after the race the other day, he didn't show any

(01:44:56):
formal remorse. He's like he wants to see the
Ellicott bro. He was on the bike.
You saw that it was nowhere to go.
Just just put your hand up and just say you were wrong bro,
right you get. That from them do you so?
You know you got riders will be like that was my mistake, but
morbidly he's always trying to be.
He analyzes himself out of stuffbro right.

(01:45:17):
He's just like bro just you did wrong and they need to bring
bring a point system back because the last time the point
system was used and the person who got penalized by it, they
did away with it since then. Who was the person?
Rossi. Yep, that was some That was from
the incident with him and Mark. Valencia 2015 is when they sent

(01:45:40):
him to the back of the grid and they went away with that system
quick. Well, you can't.
Just put it back. You can't.
You can't. You can't send the goat to the
back of the grid like. That, that's what I love with
Moto GP. They have no qualms in who you
are. They will disqualify you and
they will race manual. Yeah.
But like you. Said they got rid of it.
They got rid of it. The the that that system knows.
Yeah, well, they need to. They need to bring it back.

(01:46:00):
At least they used it. At least they didn't try to
manipulate it. I could live with you trying to
be like, you know, let's use it and then just remove it rather
than try to manipulate it. I'm saying we ain't trying to
have no Abu Dhabi 2021. But yeah, no, we didn't even
want to go there. But yeah.
So yeah, he's becoming a nuisance.
He needs to check himself. He needs to look in the mirror
and stop with the foolishness, right?

(01:46:21):
Because when he's not doing it in qualifying, is he's doing it
in the race or he's doing it he's always getting involved
with. Something.
Yeah, for our experienced writerthat that's just disappointing,
right? That's just disappointing.
So let's see how we are. We if you learn, if you learn
anything, but as I say, race bands work because it did work
for kilos. So he's a different guy now.

(01:46:41):
He said it right. And it's just like, let's see,
we got asking coming up this week.
Yes. On that note, just to wrap up,
we have back-to-back race weekend ASIN.
This is probably the best mode, but probably the best bike.
Tracking actually before and I never mentioned we need to

(01:47:04):
mention what happened in the endof the motor to race man Aaron
Kenneth and Digger Murray. That was a fight.
Aaron Kenneth said he won't fight.
I'll give him fight, you know. That shows you, that shows you
what hunger is, you know, because, because what's his team
name again? It's not.
Surgical. What's his name?

(01:47:25):
Who's teammate? Diego Gonzalez.
Yeah. No Manuel Gonzalez Manuel
Gonzalez because he's no leader.That's what Ken's teammate no,
no, he's not the the the bicycs no, they're not the same
teammate, but he's no leading the championship because they
went into the race tied on points idea.
I know he's no leading the championship.
He was still. Leading on comeback.

(01:47:47):
Yeah, so. Yeah, so I.
Mean the motor I think this is probably one of the first
weekends where all three races were exciting.
So we had, we had good race. Well, we had good race in the
motor GP for a ball those 7 laps.
And then after that, once Pekka tires went off, that was pretty
much, it's pretty much kind of like processional racing from

(01:48:08):
there on, you know, So the only,the only bright spot after that
was the whole Frankie situation and DJ catching and passing on
pick up and then and, and. Besides that, one more thing we
got to mention. Oh you see, they got rid of
Sergio Garcia, bro. Yep.

(01:48:29):
So you see, when we had this conversation about Martine, when
I when I said, even though I don't like it, I understand it.
You got to do what you got to dofor yourself as a writer because
these team, they will do you do what I did to Sergio Garcia.
I know he wasn't performing up to, you know, I get it, but.

(01:48:50):
And it's kind. Of.
He was leading the championship last year, wasn't he?
The guy was on fire. So I'm thinking what went on?
What's what went on mentally like it's crazy.
I've never seen, I've seen riders fall from grace.
This is giving me this is givingme Siestina Celestina Viet vibe.

(01:49:12):
It's giving me, is it Lorenzo madness to revive?
Is it cuz VE VE VE is still on the grid?
No, I mean in terms of the fall.Oh.
The the drop in performance. 'Cause that's not, that's not
even no VAT is on the grid that he fell.
He's just still on the grid. That's all that is.
He's just happens to still be onthe grid.
Yeah. Lorenzo Baldessari giving me

(01:49:33):
that vibe, Baldes. Right.
So I'm looking at Sergio Garcia and I'm like, this dude has
talent. Like what happened?
Cases are falling out with the team, I guess He was not put
certain things and they weren't up with certain things and they
just started. You know what, let's just let's
just call it a quits and you go your way.

(01:49:53):
Which which gives Martin the right to do what he what he's
doing too, if that's the case. I think given this, yeah, I
don't know. I don't know if we can say it's
right. Even if it now, I'm not saying
that the way our team when things aren't working out for
teams and they think they could just drop a rider Martin, it

(01:50:18):
show that. Well, if I don't think the
situation is right for me, I'm going to drop you.
I ain't mad at it, even if I youknow, even when I thought I
don't like, but now when I'm looking at the whole thing, I'm
like, it's like they're always going to do what they want to do
the teams right. So if a rider think he's got
some clout where he's like, well, I'm dropping you, bro.
Do you think Brother True? Think, think.
You have to look out for yourself at the end of the day.

(01:50:39):
Yeah. So what was?
I feel bad for Sergio Garcia bro.
Yeah, because last year I thought he was going to run away
with the championship where he starts the year.
And then to see Aguero kind of like clawing back and, you know,
took it because he because. I remember he got injured.
Yeah, didn't he win more to three?
Sergio Garcia, yeah, no, he won.It was, I think it was his, was

(01:51:02):
his teammate. And he wanted, what's his name
again? Ivan.
Ivan Guevara, Yeah. OK, cool, I thought he did.
See Minister. Anyway, so we have Aston this
weekend pretty much. I think this is still going to
be, it's going to be a mark win.I think it's just going to be

(01:51:23):
normal service, service resume for him as usual.
I can't see nobody beating him because again, Aston is just too
nice. What do you think?
So just give me a quick, this isgive me a quick preview of where
you think's going to happen, andthen we can just wrap this up.
We've been going on for a long time.

(01:51:46):
Yeah, you got it. You got to look at the man
that's leading the championship in it bar in any, any any any
surprises. You can't.
I don't think you could look past Mark.
No. Just just looks he's the dude
has been strung at every track except for the the animal
Silverstone and he was still on the podium.

(01:52:07):
Luckily, what we talk about right?
So it's it's hard to look passing, right.
Let's see if let's let's see it's hard to look passing.
Yeah, I can't I. Can't see.
I think he's definitely, obviously every race track he
goes, he's going to be favorite anyway, so.
Yeah, I think he's locked in now.

(01:52:28):
I think he's locked in whereas like as I said, he figured out
that a man new tires for fuel does work.
You just got to just settle in, run out five to six laps, right.
So I think if if anyone is fast enough to get a jump on those

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five to six laps, I guess that'swhere you're going to see Mark
is going to. But if they can't get that jump
and once he stays in that pack, because I think if he stays in
that pack under the Ding Dong, Ding Dong, Ding Dong and change
position and once that 5-6 lap runs off and that's still a
thing, he's going to bolt all. Right.

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Cool. Let's see what happens this
weekend. So, yeah, And that note, I think
we probably can end it right here because this is a long one,
man. This is a long one.
What we call, Yes, Yeah. Yeah, I'm probably going to cut
it up in clips. I'm going to cut up some clips,
release, release certain points in clips, right.

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So, but yeah, once again, thank you all for listening.
You know, it was it was a very passionate podcast this time
Marcus defenders regarding the, the, the, the, the Alex Marcus
issue, right? But let's say there's two sides
to everything. Some people see it one way,
obviously different, right? And that's just what it is that

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that's everything in life, whichis why you have to work.
You have the young and the young.
You have night, years, day, justopposite, you know, like that's
just what that's just life, right?
That's what gives life balance actually, right.
So yeah, we're going to be releasing that part more in
clips and just over the time, right?
So so yeah, once again, thank you all for listening to the

(01:54:14):
Grand Prix project. If y'all are new listeners, we
appreciate y'all. Please give us a follow on on on
X at the Grand Prix project pod,right?
All of the big broad Thanos 876,which is 7 HANOS.
So that's the number 7. Don't spell out the word 7,

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right? And yeah, we, we, we, we will
keep bringing it right. And yeah, just looking forward
to the Liberty Media. They said the deal should be
signed no later than July 3rd. So that's it.
We're excited for that. Let's see what Liberty Media
could do for this great sport that we love.
See if they could push it to thelevel like they did the F1,

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right? Even even if we could get a
quarter or even half of that, because cars and bikes are
different, right? Always going to have a smaller
crowd and bikes, right? This was a niche thing, but if
we could get some of that exposure over your Moto GP, I'm
sure it would be great for the sport.
So, yeah, Congrats to Liberty Media, Congrats to Dorner, and,

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you know, Congrats to us as MotoGP fans.
You know, we're getting a, we'refinally about to get that look
that we, we, we really deserve as a sport.
Yep. No, no, let's see, let's see if
they could keep ticket prices around about the same or if they
could do something to that. But I know it's a business.
They're coming in for a business.
So don't be surprised if things increase unless be honest.

(01:55:42):
Unless be honest, they don't have control over ticket prices
being to be honest. That's the promoters for the
race possibility, but I don't know if the model is the same
as. Yeah, because with exposure now,
because that's the thing with F1, when F1 got really the
tickets in, in, in, in pricing change.
Yeah. Because the eyes are on it.
So yeah, it's it's it's a knock on effect, right?

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More money in the pockets of thepromoters.
They spend money. So, you know, as long as they
keep it affordable, you know where people make it for
everybody. Yeah, I think next year, Quota
is probably going to be fun because they got this new theme
park that's open, right, right by the track.
OK. I think it's part of Quota now.

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So, all right. And so once again, thank you all
for listening to the Grampy Project.
We'll catch you all next time, which is next week actually,
because we have a race this weekend.
And then moving forward every week in for a couple.
We're going to have like 4 racesin five weeks after the summer
break. So yeah, that's there's no
triple edders in this. Let's stop with triple edders.
So we're going to have double Edders break, Double Edders

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break. Let me see the calendar.
So we have ASEN this weekend, Yeah, So we have ASEN and then
the next race, so from summer break after that, right?
No, no. We have Germany from the 11th to
the 13th and then we are back-to-back Germany and Saxon

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ring. Yeah, then summer break.
The summer break and we're back in August 15th and then it's a
it's a triple header. Triple header?
I thought we didn't have any triple header this year.
Sure. Hold on.
No. We don't have any triple header.
No, sorry, my bad. I look, I've got the dates mixed
up. Yeah.
Where do we go after the summer break?

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Is it San Marino or is that summer break?
The summer break, the comeback. It's Austria, Hungary, Catalonia
San Marinas, September weekend on the 12th to the 14th.
OK. So we have before the summer
break, so we have ASIN. So we have three races after the
summer break, don't before the summer break we have ASIN.

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We have asin Germany and Czech Republic.
OK. So that's that's going to be
what 12 races by the time summerbreak?
Yes. So that's halfway.
Yeah. No, no, no, hold on.
Hold on. So that's after the summer
12345678910. We're going to have 10 races

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after the summer. I mean, it's a, oh, it's a 22
race calendar. Why did I get 24?
Yeah, what are we thinking, F1? Hold on, so that's 5/10/15.
Hold on, where's my maths? So that's so we're at round 10,
OK, Yeah, it's 22 races. 44 in total.

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Yeah, if you include the sprints, yeah.
So 'cause the Czech Czech Grand Prix, I think that's Saxon ring,
that's round 12. So there's, so there's 22 we
said, right. Yes, 2222 race weekend, but in
total. 10 race after the summer break.

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So after the summer break, it's 10 races.
If Mark cleans up going into thesummer bro that would be wild.
I don't know, I don't know you're going on that.
That's that's the championship. So, so on that note, we're going
to end the part this week, as you say.
Thanks everyone for tuning in and listening and you can catch

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us again next week. We'll be dropping the part this
part tomorrow and we normally drop out the pods every
Wednesday. So we don't, we're not the ones
that do our pods straight after the race.
That's just seems like to everybody's trying to jump the,
you know, be the first out. So we're just trying to be the
last one out. Yeah, We know where we live.

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So we we just take our position.Yeah, until we come to until.
We start talking some people offthe the ladder.
Yeah, you know, and that's goingto come with your help.
And as I said, please leave yourfeedback as I said.
This because I know we got to go, but this is kind of
unconventional for a Moto GP podcast, right?
This is more I was just more like a sport, like a Stephen A

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Smith first date because the it's heated.
It's it's a bit loud sometime, you know what I'm saying?
Because everyone is more round the table.
Everyone has more round the table than having this as you
know, this, this logical conversation, right?
And what do you think? But we kind of get heated
because that's where we're from.We're from.
That's the type of sports shows that we're used to.

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Away from a culture where our debates get our debates isn't,
you know, the. More get heated yeah, so.
You probably think we're fighting, but fighting.
Right. So yeah, hopefully I'll enjoy
that aspect. It's something different for the
Moto GP sphere, right? It's it's, there's no other one
like us, right? We treat it like it's basketball
or football is heated, you know?So once again, hope you all

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enjoy it. We appreciate bringing it to
you. Especially when right one of the
horses not a mark. Mark is fine.
So what? I'm saying I'm a Moto GP fan
first, right? I just just have my points out,
you know, I, I, I, I if you if I'll be F up, you know, like I'm
I'm willing to call that out. Just remember and I will just

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just. Remember that.
That's all. Yeah, in terms of popularity,
you can't, you can't. You can't take that away.
In terms of popularity, I'll. Never jumps off a dominant bike
and goes to another team and winback-to-back championship.
Rossi is. The yeah, the coming of the week
story, even though the bike is not dominant for the current
world champion Peko. I mean, look at the guy, Mark.

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Has never jumped off Marcus never jumped off a bike he won
the championship with to anotherteam that's never won the
championship. Back to cap that, Yama was good,
Max Biagio wasn't good enough towin the championship on.
Anything that's right, that's what you think, that's what you
think the same. GP25 where you all are telling
me that Mark is doing the business.

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You see what I'm talking about? This is the type of shit that
makes me get. Like this is a different what
we're talking about, this is a. Different yeah, it's not good
for Petco Mark is making. No, what I said was until Mark
jumps off a bite that he won thechampionship with this year to a
bite that's never won the championship the next year, then
win the championship with that bite.
Can't have that good conversation with my goal,

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sorry. Hey, I could say this loud.
In terms of talent, Valentina isnot as talented as Marcus.
Let's just keep it a book. Marcus is talented.
Every aspect of motorcycle racing, serial qualifier, serial
winner. Like what?
Come on, let's let's just keep it a book.
Let's just keep it a book. Anything.
Listen, Ross is the GOAT, right?But not we're going to end spot.

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Popularity, yeah, I will never take that because you know what
we could have a different conversation on this because we
already know what time of day iswhen it comes on to that, right.
Valentina was is the first Moto GP superstar with me that kind
of picked up on it. So obviously it's going to be
like come on. So that's all different
conversation. But yeah, once again, thank you
all for watching Grand Prix project.
You see, we almost worked started a whole nother podcast.
This is what we do because it's heated around here.

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Thank you all for listening. Ross is the goal.
Which popularity contest The Grand Prix Project podcast?