Two Bulls in One Pen: Marquez vs. Bagnaia Showdown!

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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to the Grand Prix Project with me, your host
Andre and the big bro.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Thanos876,.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
as usual, yes we'll be discussing, discussing MotoGP
.
Motogp is two days away at yourtime of listening.
We're actually recording onSunday.
So, yeah, motogp starts in twodays.
I'm exciting, I'm exciting,excited, I'm excited.

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You see, that's how excited Iam.
Right, I'm doing all theexcites.
Excited, exciting, excite.
Yeah, when motorsports seasoncomes around, it makes me mix my
words up, right.
It makes me speak in in.
It makes me speak in.
It makes me speak in puzzles,right, that's how excited I am

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for motorsports when it comesaround.
So, f1, motor gp, real superbikes, y'all we're in
motorsports season, people, andwe're in for a hell of a ride in
2025, would you agree?
Definitely, I think we're infor a great ride like.
It's probably going to be oneof the best seasons for both

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motor gp, formula one and alsoworld superbike.
I know we haven't touched inreal superbike as much.
We're going to get there, beardus, but I think we're in for
great seasons, a great season.
So, yeah, big bro, motogpstarts.

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Buriram, the Thai GP.
It's the first time MotoGP, Iwonder if the very few times
that MotoGP hasn't started inQatar.
Yeah, so they did the MotoGPlaunch, which was similar to
F175 F1 launch.
Motogp did theirs in Thailand,same venue.

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So they basically stayed there,and now they're about to
kickstart the season.
So, yeah, what are you lookingforward to?
So, yeah, what are you lookingforward to?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
you know we touched on it in our first, in our pilot
episode.
I think for me is you know I'm,you know me, I'm a five year
Quattro Yamaha fan.
So I want to.
My view mainly would be seeingwhat these guys get up to.
You know, have they been ableto turn the corner from the

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previous two years where they'vebeen nowhere?
Have the concessions that theywere given started to be a fruit
?
From what we saw in the firsttest in sepang, the yama looked
good.
It definitely.
It wasn't a ferrari I'm notsaying ferrari, it wasn't, uh,

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the kati beta but you think,based on its performance there,
you'd probably say it was thesecond best bike in that whole
entire sipang test.
It wasn't so good around thistrack which they're going to be
racing at this weekend.
So it's very likely that thattest performance might translate

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over into the race and theyprobably don't look that good.
But going forward for the restof the season they'd definitely
be there.
They might be able to scoresome podiums on merit and you
know, if the chips fall in theirfavor they probably could score
a lucky win here or there, butthe win is definitely a long

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shot.
The podiums, it's a possibility, but I think the more
interesting aspect of the seasonwill be the red team, the
lenovo ducati racing team.
How will the marquez picklepartnership fear?
Will it be?

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Could it be?
Or version of the Nico RosbergLouis Hamilton pairing?
Yeah, that's very possible.
It's very possible because inthat team you've got two, as I
say, two bulls in one pen, andyou can't have two bulls ruling
one pen.
There's going to be a clash ofpersonalities and someone's

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going to want to be, you know,the top bull in that pen.
So it's going to be interesting.
How will Jorge Martin fear ontheir prayer, which he basically
didn't test because of hisaccident?
Will Bezzecchi step up andperform in his place and deliver

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?
I don't know.
This year's motor GP season isgoing to be an interesting one
and I think most of the 90% ofthe interest I just said, 99.9%
of the interest will be on thesuper team on the super team
Mark vs Pe it let's go racing,all right, and um, yeah, it's,

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that's definitely what mostpeople are looking forward to,
right?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
um, as you said, the season starts and it starts on
friday.
Yeah, first green light.
You know, track goes green,light goes green.
Um, yeah, then it's party time,okay, um, I'm very, when you,

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when you mention um, when you,when you mention um, yama, right
, I was gonna say you, when yousaid may, they might get a win,
I was gonna say, you know, maybein a wet race.
But then I remember that one ofthe greatest wet race riders
actually on a ducati, true, sohe kind of took that away, he

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took that sting away, right?
Yeah, but we've seen that samegreat race rider make mistakes
in the wet as well, but we'renot going to do that because, at
the end of the day, what's hisstrike rate?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, he has a high strike rate Percentage in the
90s.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, the 90s yeah, but again it's not 100%.
So yeah, nothing is 100% right?
Nothing is 100%, but if you'retalking about wet weather,
prowess.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Here's two riders mark and jack miller.
Yeah, and he's on a Ducati.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
No, he's on a Yamaha so I was going to say they might
get a win and I would say in awet race maybe Jack's got a
chance on the Yamaha, maybethat's going to be their chance,
but you never know.
That's the thing that I loveabout MotoGP you never know.
You know they say it infootball, but I'm going to say
it in MotoGP on any given Sunday.
You never know.
You know they say it infootball, but I'm gonna say

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motor gp on any given sunday.
You, you never know, right?
So my thing is, what I'mlooking at is how comfortable is
mark going to be on that ducatiride?
Because the thing that's scary,right, if he's super

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comfortable where he's not onthe edge, where he's not biting
the screen to get this.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's.
If the performance comes easilyto him, where he doesn't look
like he's overriding the bike,then it's going to be a problem
for Pekka for the rest of theyear.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
And then, at the same time, I wantko to make.
I want it to be a fight.
I want it to be a fight, well,yeah, I want, I want it to be
gladiator-like, right.
I want it to be just a greatseason with peko, with Pecco.
Mark Martin I want Martin tocome to the fort, right.

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I want Bezzecchi to come to thefort.
He did well in the program test.
I want Alex Marcus to beconsistent over the whole entire
season, right.
I want Digia.
That's Digia and Antonio.
I want him to come back andrecover fast enough so he could
perform.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I just want a great season.
Yeah, I think that's what weall want.
Definitely, it's what we askfor every single year and most
years.
You got that last year.
We definitely got that.
Granted, um Peke probably shouldPerica should have won that
championship, but, you know,those mistakes that he made in
the sprint races pretty muchcost him.
And again, with having Mark inthe team, you can't make

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mistakes now because you'regoing to be punished for your
mistakes, and that's whathappened to him last year.
So this year he's going to haveto come out Pekka that is and
he's going to have to be moreprecise.
He's going to have to beprecise and, at the same time,
be more aggressive with hisriding, be more forceful.
You know, because we know whatmark brings to the table.

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Mark is not only he's one of thebest, he's also an opportunist.
If he sees an opportunity toovertake or do something, he's
going to do it.
He's not going to sit back andjust, you know, wait for some
things to fall in his lap.
He's gonna make things happenhimself.
So pekka is gonna be in for arough ride.

(10:15):
And you know we in the firstpart we talked about is this how
will um gg deal with thisdynamic because I think I said
it personally.
I think signing mark wasprobably a mistake because again
you're putting two alpha malesin the same team and that's

(10:38):
going to create animosity.
How, how are you going to dealwith that where that arises?
You?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
you keep saying that, though, but I still disagree.
To say signing one of thegreatest motorcyclists ever,
racer ever, is a mistake.
It doesn't make any sense,especially when your top guy
lost a championship to asatellite team.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
It does not make any sense yeah, but I said it's a
mistake in the sense of thedynamic it creates within the
team.
You're you're putting twocombustible elements together.
It only needs a spark for it toexplode.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I don't think they're too combustible.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
If it was martin and mark, that would be combustible
I, I don't know because again,um, we've heard conversations
between Peko and Mark before.
Peko has been asked many timeswho he'd rather his teammates be
and I think at one point hewent Bastiani or Martin.

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He never considered Mark.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Which makes sense.
Why would you want Mark as yourteammate?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
That's what I'm saying.
So having Mark come in, so he'sagainst it, he's somewhat
against Mark coming into theteam.
So bringing in Mark into theteam to him can be seen as a
slap in the face, not when youjust lost a chip to a satellite
team.
Yeah, but again, that satelliteteam isn't your standard

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satellite team, is it?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
you're right.
However, you and I know thisworks right, it doesn't matter
if it's in a different color,right?
Well, it does matter.
If you're in the red team, wedon't care if you got the
identical bike next door in adifferent color.
You're in this red team for areason.
There's a reason why there's afactory team and there's a
reason there's a team where we,where we lease the bike to yeah,

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but again, you're not leasingan old spec bike.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
He didn't lose the championship to an older spec
bike, did he?
He lost it to somebody.
Yeah, it doesn't matter, helost it to somebody.
Right and the samespecification bikers you know.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Let me ask you do you know what the big difference is
between a fracture team and asatellite team?
Engineers, so you have morepeople going over your data
right.
So it means that you can makedecisions faster.
Everything about a fractureteam is you could get things
done quicker.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
There's more people but it depends on what.
It depends on what the contractis, because um martin got the
same support as the factory umducati riders yeah, apart from
money there's a lot more things.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
There's a reason why which is why I'm saying there's
a lot more thing as to which isthe reason why he wants to go to
the factory.
If that was as as we think oras you're putting it, he would
have stayed at Primark.
It wouldn't have made anydifference.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, because if he went to the factory team
obviously it's more incentivesfor him financially.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Not only that, because he has more technicians
right, he has more engineers,which helps to just make things
run smoothly.
There's more information thatthey could go through compared
to like a Pramac right.
Ultimately, what it came downto.
Pramac has the same informationthat about bike yeah, but you
have less people to go throughit.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Remember there's a lot of data that comes off these
bikes okay, yeah, but okay, youhave less people to go through
it.
But is it the quantity ofpeople going through it or is
the quality of informationyou're extracting from the data.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's both.
It's both Because if that wasthe case, it would be okay for
everyone to get a fully speccedfactory bike in a satellite.
There's performance to gain ina in a factory team yeah,
because again you have, you havethe fracture bike.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You're gonna, you're gonna get the first set of
upgrades etc.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
first, exactly so the fact that, yeah, pekka lost the
title to a damn good rider, arider who figured it out last
year.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah riding this exact same spec bike.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So that's what I'm saying to you.
The mistakes that Pekka madelast year, the factory team
wasn't expecting those.
They're looking at it like what.
These are mistakes that youmade when you were in the Pramac
team.
Now you're in our factory team.
You already won twochampionships and you're still
making these mistakes um, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I don't think it had anything to do with him making
mistakes while they signed Mark,as you you mentioned.
Mark was signed because Gigialways wanted to sign Mark.
That's part of it, but youstill got to look at Peko.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Peko has a lot of mistakes in him and they notice.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
But when you say a lot of mistakes, like how much
is a lot of mistakes?
He lost the championship bywhat?
10 points.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
How many times did he crash?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
last year I don't know the numbers, maybe five or
six times he crashed.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, check those numbers again.
And he crashed the year before.
Right, he crashed.
Yeah, he made a lot of mistakesthe year before too so that's
no.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think the year before he won that championship
pretty comfortable becausemartin was crashing also so then
how can you then use thatagainst him?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
because that's what I'm saying to you.
When you, big bro, you knowthis when you're a factory rider
, there's a certain thing thatyou're not.
You're not expect you couldhave a crash here and there.
You're not expecting to have asmany crashes as pekka had last
year as a factory, two timesworld champion, three times
world champion if we factor inmotor too but if that but is

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that limited?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
just being a factory rider or in general, you
shouldn't be crashing the amountof time you crash.
Because, again Mark, how manytimes did Mark crash last year?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mark crashed not a lot in races, he crashed in
qualifying a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
He crashed a few races last year.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Not as much as Pecco did.
That's what I'm saying to you.
If you look at Mark when Markis a championship contender, you
, if you look at mark when markis a championship contender, he
really crashes a bike in a race.
That's the difference, andducati knows this, they know
that him.
If we could get him a bike thatworks, there's a possibility.
That's what.
That's what's going to be mynext point.
The thing that pekka has to becareful of at all costs mark too

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, because it's not like pekka,ain't no slouch.
Mark is older, right, so markhas certain disadvantages too,
but if I'm basing it off trackrecord, because mark is riding
at a high level, we cannot denythat right as though.
As to pekka, yeah, but I'mlooking at where mark is.
Mark is over 30.
Mark is closer to the end ofhis career, but he's still

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riding at a high level.
30.
Mark is closer to the end ofhis career, but he's still
riding at a high level.
The thing that Peko has to becareful of, right, if you make
Mark slips and get a 25, 30point jump on him, he's in
trouble.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I mean, if he gets that big a lead he's not going
to win the championship.
Mark pretty much is going tocruise to win the championship.
But my argument with this isright there was no urgency to
sign mark because again, withthe exception of last year,
pekka has proven that he can winyou championships and he also

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proved he could lose you want to?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
okay, but he has won you more than he has lost, so
the thing is right and you'reright, but I still cannot get
the idea as to why Ducati, thebest bike, wouldn't sign the
best rider on the grid.
It does not make any sense whenhe's still at a high level.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, but again, how does it make them any different
whether to sign him or not?
Because you still would win thechampionship with peko.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So let me ask you this, right?
No, at that point, yeah, youwould think, until he lost it
last year, right?
So that's what I'm saying toyou.
These guys you gotta remember.
Right, these guys are seeingthings that we're not seeing,
right?
They don't just get up and signmark because he's the number.
They sign him for a reason and,whatever you may find out later
on, you may not be seeing,because, well, why would they

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sign him when they've got peko,they're probably saying you know
what he won us two chips.
However, there's still certainthings that we we're a bit
skeptical about we still feellike if we stuff like if we get
a performing quattro and a yama,that works yeah, but but didn't

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pekka be because the yamadidn't work.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
The yama just didn't work and it brought back 80
something points okay, so doeswhat does that tell you about
the quality of pekka it?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
tells me that if quattro had a great bike that he
could compete with, probablywould have won that championship
okay, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wasn't that pecker's what second year on the ducati.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, but remember he was at primark, you mean on the
factory and the factory yeahright, that was the second year
on the factory bike.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, look I.
The thing I'm trying here iswhy I I find the whole sign-in
thing confusing.
I'd understand if there was asituation where the Ducati was
being challenged every week byanother brand of bike.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's not I think when you look at sport, you look at
sport in a comfortable way.
I don't look at sportcomfortably.
No, no, no, I'm not no.
But this is Because let me askyou this why would you have a
eight-time world champion who'sperforming at the high level
right somewhere else, when youcould have him in your team?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
but having how does how does him having it you have
him in your team make your teamany different to you having
pekka, who's already a champion?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
we are yet to find out.
Right, we are yet to find out.
But the best always wants thebest, and I still cannot
understand how people object tomark being on the ducati look,
I'm, look, I understand what youwant.
You want, you want comfort, youwant it to be safe.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
No, but that's.
But that's the thing you alsohave to factor as a, as a leader
.
You also have to take that intoconsideration.
How will this dynamic affectthe team?
You have to factor as a, as aleader, you also have to take
that into consideration.
How will this dynamic affectthe team?
You have to for consider we'reyet to.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
We're yet to see that , but what we do know.
So let me ask you how is itdifferent from from from from
ferrari signing lewis?
Why go for 40 year old lewishamilton?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
because lewis is at the tail end of his career.
Le is not.
You don't expect a Lewis tocome in and answer.
Uh, charles, who is what?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
are you really gonna say that?
Are you really gonna say that?
What do you really believe that?
Believe what?
I'm sure we've had conversationand you said that Lewis is
going to Ferrari to win yeah, ofcourse he's going there to win,
that's his intention and why doyou think?
And why do you think Ferrarisigned Lewis Hamilton?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
was it because that's a different, that's a different
thing.
You can't compare them.
And this is why you can'tcompare them because, again, in
formula one, ferrari is not thedominant team.
It's not the dominant team.
You have other teams out therethat can win the championship.
We saw that last year in motogp.

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The last non-dukati championwas fabio.
So after mark won his, it wasthen the suzuki with um joan mir
, joan mir.
Then the next one was the nextnon-Ducati was Fabio.

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So Ducati has been the teamthey've won the last three
championships.
Right, because Fabio won his.
Fabio won his championship in2021.
Peca did back to back.
Yeah, so Peca did back to backin 22 and 23 so let me actually

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so let me finish so in that thatthat respect, there's no other
bike out there that canchallenge the ducati.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's clearly, it's clearly the best bike and I like
where you're going with that.
So let me ask you this so whereshould have mark gone?
Where?
What do you think?
Where do you think mark shouldbe?
I'm not arguing against himsaying actually where do you
think he should be, if you thinkit's a bad sign, where you
think Mark should be?
I'm not arguing against him, no, I'm asking him?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Where do you think he should be?
If you think it's a bad signing, where do you think I never
said it was a bad signing.
I said I don't like the signingbecause it's going to create a
problem within the team.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
And the need, the necessity to sign Mark.
I don't see where it was,because, again, you have someone
who won you back-to-back chip,who has the capability was
displayed.
He has the capability to winyou a chance.
So bringing in mark would only.
I'd say, bring mark in if therewas clear evidence.

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Pekka couldn't win yourchampionship if you had given
hold on, if you had given pekkathat bike for the last three
years and he has failed to winyour championship in those three
years and you know you've gotthe best bike, then I'd
understand, yeah, the logicbringing mark in because you're
not delivering what you'resupposed to be delivering, but
he has delivered twochampionships and, as I was
going to say, he lost one right,so we shouldn't have lost.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
So let me ask you this so mark was already in
ducati, stable, right, yes.
So let me ask so what wouldhave been the solution?
Sign martin, right, that wayyou think that would have.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I think martin deserved to see it, because
martin was in the hold on,because martin, was right, was
on the satellite ducati.
Granted, he was on the samespec, but he was performing just
as well.
So why, you know?
Okay, good point.
He should have.
In actuality, he should havebeen rewarded with that factory

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seat.
Good point Because he hasdisplayed that he did everything
he needed to do to get thatfactory seat Cool, get it.
But again, like you said, ggwanted Mark.
Okay, and I get that factiousseat Cool.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
But again, like you said Gigi wanted Mark.
Okay, and I get that You'reright.
And it's not.
And it's not, it's not down toperformance, so where would Mark
go?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Gigi hold on.
Gigi didn't want Mark based onperformance, he just wanted to
have Mark in his team.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Are you crazy?
What do you mean by he bydidn't want Mark Basin
performance?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Because what difference?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
having Mark in the team makes the performance of
the team, Like what we said inthe first part, because they're
seeing stuff that makes him gowow.
They're seeing stuff thatprobably say, hey, if he was on
this bike he would have probablydog walked Martin and Pecco.
Wow, that's why they're signinghim.
So let me ask you this so okay,let's go your route, Keep Pecco

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, sign Martin.
Where does Mark go, as he'salready in the Ducati camp?
Go to Primax on a fracture?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
bike.
Well, that was the actualagreement before wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like I said, because I don't want to repeat what we
did the last time.
Okay, so Martin goes to thefracture team, pecco stays, mark
goes to Primark on the well,what seems like the 24.9, right.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
And, as I said, if you're seeing data that makes
them feel like we need to signhim and they don't.
And then he goes to Primark andI said this last week, so I'm
going to move on because I don'twant to repeat what we said
last week.
Now he goes to Primark on thebike.
They know they are the datathat shows that he's probably
going to dominate right,hypothetically speaking.
Just say they see data, I sayhe's going to dominate.
We put him over primack onceagain.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
The primack team beats the ducati lenovo team
again well, the simple solutionthat to that, then, is don't
give him one of the current specbikes, then why would you have
the eight-time world championand not give him?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
why would you have?
Why would you have the last?
He was an eight-time championlast year, was he not?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
yeah, but because there was contracts involved
with that and the beer miningwas in the vicinity.
You know that, mark, when hewent to grassini right he did
the one-year contract right,because he didn't want to go out
of sync right, so he did oneyear and that's what grassini
had.
Their contract was with oldbikes right, so he did that deal
because, let's say, he alreadyhad dreams of riding the factory

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bike right.
So you're telling me that theway that you wanted to go once
again, you want the easy routeis for ducati to have martin and
Pecco and not give Mark thebest thing, not give him the
best bike.
Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Why would?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
you have a guy that's still in his prime, that's
still riding at a high level anddogging with a bike that isn't
working.
That does not make any sense inthe sport.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
But again, the point of the team principle is you're
supposed to manage your team,what?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
do you want for your money?
This is a question.
What do I want as a fan?
I'm paying.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I'm paying money, but again, you're the team
principal.
You're not a fan?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
no, but ultimately this is a sport this is a sport,
and I pay money to see a sport.
What I don't?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
want you.
That's what you, the fan, wantto see as a.
You have to.
I'm looking at it from theperspective of the team boss.
What's best for the team?
It's not what's best for MotoGP.
That's not my, that's not yourjob.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You do know, MotoGP is a product right.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And it's an entertainment product right.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Again, they don't owe the fans.
I'm paying you, no, no, butthey don't owe you.
So let me ask you this as asport person.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Let me explain it.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
They don't owe you the right to put people in the
team that they think will bebest for you, the fan.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
They put people in the team who they think would be
best for them as the team andsmart marcus is in the team
because they felt that whateverthey saw is best for the team
again you, I'm being playing thedevil's advocate with this
right.
No, you don't you know, what youneed to do is look at it from a
sports.
You say you're a sports purist,right, you love sports.

(28:22):
Yeah, why would you?
Why would you rather seePeckham Martin in the team and
then not give Mark a good bike?
I owe you a sports.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, no, no, Look like I said, I'm being a devil's
advocate with this.
You're misinterpreting.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, I don't want you to be a.
That's what I'm saying, I don'twant you to be a devil's
advocate?
I want you to, or sports, wedon't want to play devil's
advocate.
We're talking about.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Devil's advocate in discussing sports.
So my thing is okay.
I understand the reasoning.
Wider side, Mike, I understandit, but what I'm saying is from
a cohesive point of view.

(29:03):
Right, it might not be the bestsigning, Did you?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
feel that when Russell went back to Yamaha?
Sorry, did you feel that whenRussell went back to Yamaha from
Ducati In Lorenzo's house?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
But was it Lorenzo's house?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Russell built that house no, he left and lorenzo
became the man.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It doesn't matter but russi built that house.
It's a different, it's not thesame thing.
Russi built that house.
Rossi jumped off the dominanthonda at the end of 2000 2002
onto a yaman yamaha that biagiand melange couldn't win on and
won a championship for them backto back years but what I'm

(29:45):
saying to you, when Rossi, butwhen Rossi, when he left and
Lorenzo did what he did, right,because it became Lorenzo's
house, right.
Yeah, bringing back Rossi in.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
But there wasn't any other rider that you think could
have gotten that seat.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
But hold on.
But bringing Rossi back in?
Rossi was already showing hisperformance was already
declining.
So bringing him back in wasn'treally a threat to Yamaha
because they knew Lorenzo hadthe speed.
They didn't bring Rossi back inbecause they felt like if
Lorenzo couldn't get the jobdone, rossi would get the job

(30:19):
done.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
So I guess what you're saying that Gigi and the
Ducati family shouldn't havedisrupted what Pekka got going
on Is that?
What you're saying yes, yeah,because he just lost a
championship, and that's thevery reason why they probably
saw those things and be like youknow what?
This guy is still error prone.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
No, but they signed him before he lost the
championship.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
These guys are not just signingthings, riders big bro.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
No, but you said gg has always wanted to work.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, he has always wanted him, but but he was not
just going to sign him justbecause he likes him.
He might not be like you knowwhat this?
Is no one is going to signsomeone because they like it.
He's a time world champion.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
So why wouldn't they know?
Because he's still showingperformance.
Not, no one is doing that butwe all know the only reason why
mark couldn't perform wasbecause of the quality of bike
he was on.
His ability to perform wasnever in question, so so, even
so, he didn't.
Gg didn't need to know how markwould perform.

(31:19):
He knows what mark is capableof doing.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
No, you can't say because mark mark, from mark's
very own mouth, from his ownmouth, he did say he wasn't sure
what was going to happen.
He said I've been going, I'vebeen through the ringers, my arm
is messed up.
He didn't know which is why,because he said at one point he
was thinking of retire.
He said if the last year didn'tgo, it went, he would have
retired yeah, okay, fine, fairenough.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
But again my argument .
Look, this is why I said I'mjust playing david advocate here
from for a more cohesive point.
I'd understand the mark signingif pecker wasn't delivering
what the team wanted.
Then you could understand,because then you can point, look
back and say well, sorry,pecker, you had to buy to win

(32:06):
the championship three years ina row.
You lost all three years.
We're going to have to bringsomebody in who we know can
deliver if we give them the bike.
But Pekka's proven that he candeliver the results.
So bringing Mark in now, you'vepretty much upset the balance
of the team.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I beg to differ.
I think it's great for the team, right?
I think it's great for the team, it's great for the sport and
that's all I care about.
To be honest, right?
Let me look at this real quick,right?
That's all I care about is no,but you have to care about both,
that's what I said, but I thinkit's good for the team too.
I think it's good for the team,Because guess what now?

(32:46):
Because now you see, theytested the 2025 engine Didn't
work right.
So in your area they'd be likeyou know what?
The bike is already there.
It does stay there.
No, they're going to go for oneof the greatest to push them
even further.
Right, that's what they'relooking at.
They.
Can we go any further?
Can we push any further?
Are we getting the maximum outof this bike?
Maybe these are the things thatyou're looking at.

(33:07):
They're like you know what,from what we're seeing with mark
in this 2023, I think in thisnext bike but what's the map?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
but hold on.
You said the issue they'rehaving is the fact that the
engine isn't working as howthey'd like it to be right, yeah
, so how can mark push that anyfurther?
No, I'm not talking.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I'm talking now, I'm not, I'm saying with the current
bike.
When they're looking at thesethings right, they're probably
looking and be like, if he'sdoing that on the 2023 and
they're they're going to crossreference data they're probably
like you know what, what we'reseeing Martin and and and peko
do?
When we're looking at this data, it looks like there's another
two tenths in this bike.
That's something you don't knowwhat they're seeing as to why

(33:50):
they sign them, because it's allabout data.
Everything is data driven, somaybe they're seeing data.
And when they'recross-referencing everything, oh
, we thought the bike was at itsmaximum, but hey, looking at
this date over here, compared tothis bike with this, I think we
have a whole anotherher 210 310in this bike.
We just need him on it.
Yeah, okay, you gotta rememberit's not about just winning
championships, about howdominant can we?

(34:12):
Can we go a full season withoutlosing a race?
Maybe that's the nextmotivation.
You never know, that's notgonna happen.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
But the point, but the point is um, so you find it.
How finding that again?
I'd understand that if therewas a team right up their ass
challenging them week in, weekout.
But there was only who wonraces last year?
Aprilia, main races, aprilia,which was Maverick, yeah, in

(34:43):
Koto.
So the only main race that waswon by a non-Ducati was in
Aprilia.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
But you heard what I just said to you Mm-hmm, yeah,
they're winning right.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
So now their motivation might be something
else.
Yeah, I know we could win achampionship, but we need to
dominate.
We need to.
What if their next motivationis to, just as I said, win the
whole calendar?
We don't want to come set, wejust want to dominate Because at
this point we're winning.
There's nothing else that weyeah, we won everything.
We know we got the best bike,but guess what?

(35:15):
We need to see this bike breaktrack records for the next
couple of seasons.
We need to see this bike wineverything that's going.
You never know what are theirmotivations.
You never know what data theseguys are seeing.
I don't think they just signmark because, just because they
like him, they're things andthere's reasons as to why they
signed him.
I don't think it's just out ofthin air.
There's something that they sawas to why they signed him, and

(35:37):
that's exactly what his crewchief said when, um, I think one
of is it a race or one of them?
Um media outlets interviewedhim and he's saying what there's
.
He said I could understand whythey signed him.
You don't see it, but I seeright.
So that's why I'm okay with itand I just want to see what it.
Now.
Who said it doesn't necessarilymean that Mark is going to win

(35:58):
a championship.
Peke could step his game up,his game up, learn from last
year and step his game up to awhole another level.
You never know, which is whyI'm okay with it again.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'm not disagreeing with that.
But at the same time you'vealso introduced an element into
a situation that could become,could explode in your face you
could end up have again.
You could end up having asimilar Rossi Lorenzo situation
in that team.
Did it bring them?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
championships.
Having a similar Rossi Lorenzosituation in that team Did it
bring them championships?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yes, but again the bad blood was there.
You had to deal with that badblood dynamics and did you think
that got more eyes on?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
the sports you keep.
No, because you've got tounderstand.
All of this is part of thesport.
Bad blood is part of sport.
We just said it.
Wound is part of sport.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Bad blood, that's what some people likes it, for
that again, we're not looking atit from the perspective of fans
.
We move ourselves as fans andlook at it from the perspective
I say we're running a team no,we're not running, we're fans.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Let's not change our title, we're fans no, I mean, we
were talking about this podcastfrom a fan perspective yeah, I
don't know about the teamprincipal stuff, right, I'm gay
and I'm getting.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I'm not disputing that side of the argument.
We're trying to be balancedhere.
We're saying you keep sayingit's a good signing from a fan's
perspective.
I got part, I know that partI'm not disagreeing with.
But what I'm saying is becauseyou're saying basically it's
their responsibility, ducati'sresponsibility, to have a lineup

(37:35):
that's entertaining for thefans.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, it's not okay, let me play the team principle.
Okay, because that's what I'msaying.
It's going to be difference ofopinion, so we're going to move
on from this shortly.
I'm a team principal, like I'ma gg.
I designed a bike with my team.
It's a dominant bike, right,we've won the championship.
It's my bike, even with pramacone.
It's my work, right, it's myteam's work.

(37:59):
So I'm cool with that.
So I'm over here and I'm lookingat this, this other person over
here and I'm looking at allthis data that they're putting
to me.
I'm like, as a team principal,as an engineer because gg's an
engineer before he's anythingelse, he's engineer driven so
I'm looking at it's like, oh, soyou're telling me that, oh, we
won a championship.

(38:19):
That's cool.
So I'm saying you're sayingthat this guy over there on that
bike if, if we give him thisbike, he could go two tenths
quicker.
I thought we was at the maximumin this motorcycle.
Well, no, boss, no, we're not.
I think if we put him on it, wecould see even more dominance.
I know the novelty of thiswinning championship has worn

(38:42):
off.
I want the next motivation,which is to possibly have the
opportunity to win everythingand really cement my, my work as
the greatest ever in motor gpbecause you won every race in
the champ in the season anddominated like a bike that

(39:02):
literally break track recordsafter track records throughout
the season the gp24 did thatlast year.
It doesn't have all the trackrecords.
So that's what the motivationsare different.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
The motivations are different the motivation should
be to win the championshipthat's what I'm saying yeah, but
as an engineer, which ggs arethey're looking at?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
now we've won that.
That's cool.
What's the next motivation?
Because even if the next teamis miles behind, what's the next
thing that we could do?
I want to go down.
I'm the engineer.
I want to go down as thegreatest.
I want to go down.
Design the greatest bike toever grace, a motor gp, grid,
right.
And you're telling me if I getthat guy, there's a possibility
I could achieve that if I getthat guy.

(39:46):
There's a possibility I couldachieve that.
Okay, go get that guy.
You see what I'm saying.
There's a lot of things as towhy it could be, why he's there.
It's not just winning thechampionship.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
There's other motivations, because you're used
to winning.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
So then his motivation is personal.
It could be a team thing, itcould be a team or injury.
Be like yo.
We want this because afterwinning, what else is?
That's never gonna happen.
You don't know this.
No, I pretty, I think we prettymuch can, we can pretty much
guarantee that it's never gonnahappen.
You're never gonna win.
No, I mean they all, everyonethought the rb20 in 23 was gonna

(40:23):
win.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Every single race that but it doesn't stop them
from dreaming.
That's what I'm trying toexplain to you because let me
ask you after winning, what does?
If you win, if you've woneverything, two things happen.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
You either find enough of motivation or you get
bored but you can't, but, butpeople don't get bored of
winning in that, in that, inthat, in that arena, in that, in
the arena of sports.
Nobody gets bored of winning.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yes, you can get bored of winning, especially if
you're not you're, you're on amotorcycle that's just
dominating, whereas, like,there's not even a closest, a
close challenger oh no, you'renot going to get bored of
winning because you want to win.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Your motivation is to win, so if you win, you want to
keep on winning.
You know you have never beenbored of winning.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Of course, you have people that get bored of winning
you, so you get bored of stuffand then they have to find a
different motivation, which iswhy you have some players.
In some sport.
People might be and be like whydid he leave that team?
They're winning team.
Hey, man, I wanted anothermotivation that, yeah, I won.
Yeah, I thought winning wasgoing to be this, but it wore
off.
I need to find, I need to go tothis team who's struggling and

(41:28):
see what I could do okay, butwhat's his motivation to do
there?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
huh but you leave a winning team to go to another
team.
What's your motivation?
To win again.
So your motivation is winning.
So you're not really bored ofwinning, you just, you just want
to try and win in a differentway.
Now, exactly.
So now the entire goal is towin.
So you're right.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
So with the Ducati now they're winning, but they
want more dominance.
We want to dominate, we justdon't want to win, because
there's winning and there'sdominating, there's making that
person know that you ain'tcoming nowhere close to me
anytime soon I'm gonna make sure, I'm gonna make sure y'all get
buried.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, but again, bro, they dominated last year's
championship, with the exceptionof one race, they dominated no,
they dominated with the samebike, but different teams I'm
talking about.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
We want the fracture team to dominate.
We don't want even the.
We don't even want oursatellite bike anywhere in
europe we want the team.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
The fracture team won more than 50 percent of the
races last year yeah, but theystill lost the champions.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
There's a lot of things that'smoving.
They lost one of thechampionships, right, so they
lost the champion.
Yeah, I'm talking, I don't careabout it, I'm talking about the
riders championship, right inthis current situation, right.
So I'm gonna move it.
But I personally think that,signing Mark, there's reasons as
to why they signed him.
They didn't just sign him justbecause of because they had
Martin.
They could have signed.
There's a reason, I don't know,right, but I'm going to go out

(42:58):
on a limb and say I think it'sjust data that they saw that
it's going to refuse the guyBecause the fastest rider over a
lap is martin that's the thingbeing fast over a lap does not
win you championships, though,but he uh well, it did win him a
championship this year, so youcan't really say that's right.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
So if the fastest guy , so when he gets you that time
that's the best time you can get.
How can they then look at thedata and say this bike can go

(43:37):
two to three tenths faster I'mtalking about over race distance
right, yeah, but I'm talkingabout what you can do.
But over a race distance, you'renot riding the the bike to its
full potential, because there'slimitations, there's things that
you have to manage.

(43:57):
You have to manage fuel, youhave to manage tire usage, so so
the idea that it can go two tothree tenths faster based on the
data is not actually correct itcan, because, if you're looking
at, because if Mark comes inthis team this year and he's
dominating Peco over a racedistance whereas he's finishing

(44:17):
up the road, that's different.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Right, that's what I'm looking at what is he going
to do compared to Peco?
Oh, now I see why they signedhim.
This makes a whole lot of sense, right?
Right, that's what I'm lookingat.
What is he going to do comparedto Peco?
For me to say, oh, now I seewhy they signed him.
This makes a whole lot of sense, right, as I said, I don't know
, right, I'm just thinking.
I just don't have a problemwith the signing.
I think it's a good signing.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I never said I had a problem with the signing I angle
where I'm saying I think itokay.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Once it's a good sign , it it could potentially blow
up in their face.
I love it.
I love it, but, yeah, um, wekind of win.
I'm probably gonna edit out alot of that because that's long,
um, that's already 41 minutes,right, so, um, yeah, so,
continuing with the seasonopener.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Well, um, based on what we saw in that last test, I
think mark goes into this raceas the favorite because he he
had uh, I think he had thefastest time in that test and
one of the better racesimulations for the sprint race.
So I think he goes in there asthe favorite.

(45:24):
But you can never rule peckerout, because we know, we know
what pecker is like.
He'll be nowhere on a fridayand saturday morning.
He turns up after going throughthe data, they've made the
changes and boom, he's rightback there again he who makes
the most mistakes lose thechampionship this year well,

(45:44):
maybe, maybe not, maybe not,maybe neither.
They make it that mistake andthe one who wins the most races
wins the championship the reasonI said.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I think it's going to be somewhat close.
I don't think it's going to beif it was the markets of.
Let me not say it, because thecrazy thing is, mark still
operates at a very high level.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
But he's still making mistakes.
He made a lot of mistakes lastyear as well.
He made mistakes.
He crashed out of races, hecrashed in qualifying.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
He crashed in quarter , but he didn't crash in a lot
of races.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Well, he crashed out of a few races't crash in a lot
of races.
Well, he crashed in a few races.
He made mistakes in races thatcost him.
So again, he's not perfect.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
No one says he's perfect, but Mark, as I said,
when he's fighting for championhe does not crash in races for
purpose.
Like it's very rare, mark MarkMcDowell is crashing in practice
qualifying, but he's not aserial crasher in races yeah,
because back then he had a bikethat he was.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
That made somewhat made it easy his job easy, so he
didn't have to be pushing umcontinuously to maintain a lead
or whatnot the time.
At the time he was winning withthe exception of Dovey, and I
think which is we all know he'sgot right we all know where
Dovey is, that's what Picker'sgot right now.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Right what the boy that makes his job easy yeah,
nothing wrong with that, stillcrushed a lot of times okay, it
happens he just had a.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
He just had a bad season where things that he was
struggling with the tires we allknow that his the story pekka
was not struggling with tireslast year oh, yes, he was there
was a.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
There was a real started the season, the, the.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
The bot that struggled with tires last year
was a gp23 and bezeki no, pekkahad issues with the ties because
there was a race um last year Ican't remember where it was,
where I know it's the one um hefell back so far, and it wasn't
until late in the race.
He's like you know, it's onlynow the tires start working with

(47:58):
, I think, with like five or sixlap left in the race.
That's when his tires start towork and his pace picked up.
So, and then, what he did withthat I remember, don't, don't
forget.
He came out and he was publiclybashing michelin and they
pretty much told him that heneed to zip it and it's from
then he stopped.
So he had issues with that,with the tires, last year as

(48:19):
well not, it's not consistent.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
He had that.
I know the race he's talkingabout.
It's the one where he crashed,and that's the thing with him as
well.
Right, he was the one where hecrashed, and that's the thing
with him as well.
Right, he was never going towin that race, and that's the
thing.
I don't think he's got goodrace management skills if he's
not at the front and if hedoesn't have that, he's going to
lose against Mark.
I could tell you that now.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
That's not true.
Because again we saw him lastyear, malaysia.
We saw him in Buriram.
Last year we saw him in was itJerez against Mark?
So I disagreed to the pointyou're saying he can only manage

(48:57):
races if he's in front.
That's not true, because we'veseen him had to go fight,
literally bang fairings, to winraces against mark.
And no, you're talking no, I'mnot talking.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I'm talking about that race.
It was it really.
I think it was his um, was ithis was?
It his own race, the one wherebastian in his sent him off,
sent martin off the track.
What was that?
That was the san marino grumpyright um.
Didn't martin win san marinothat's the one, no, no, the one

(49:30):
that won.
How was it mark that one?
San marino last year, 2024.
Right, we're coming off 24.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I think mark might have won san marino, because he
won at aragon.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I think Mark might have won San Marino because he
won at Aragon, yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
And then that's the one where Eni ran Martin off the
track.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, so Peke crashed out of this race.
Which race?
This is the race when his tyrewas giving him the issues.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, but I'm sure that wasn't the only race.
There was another race where hecomplained about the tyre and
you could see that he was havingproblems with the tyre.
He didn't crash out of it.
But the point is, I don't thinkit's a fair statement to say
you know, he can only manageraces if he's at the front of
the race.
We've seen him kind of andagain, you also have to factor

(50:23):
in as well and when I say manage, I mean that race the whole far
.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
He fell back with those tires the way he was
pushing.
He was never going to win thatrace and he didn't.
Yeah because, yeah, these arethe little things that he still
chink, that he still got in hisarmor.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
But you can't that's not fair, because again, that's
not me.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Everyone in.
Motogp know If you ask himabout Peko, what's Peko's fault?
Peko tends to crash when hedoesn't need to.
Right, if there's a chink inPeko's armor, that's it.
He crashes in crucial times,especially in races.
Right, and I could tell youthis now If you're going up

(51:03):
against a Marcus who, who'scompetitive and think he could
win, thinks he can win achampionship, you will not beat
him with that chink in your arm.
I could tell you that right nowthat's.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I mean, that's pretty , that's pretty, that's pretty
common, isn't it?
It's not, it's not rocketscience, science, to come to
that, um that.
But I think you know Pekkaisn't being given his due
respect.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
People give him his due respect, I think, but you
still can't, because what peopleare trying to because he won
two championships is like okay,he's not being reproached, he
makes a lot of mistakes.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I don't think anyone is saying he's being reproached.
The point is people, justpeople, always assume that he's
incapable.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
He doesn't have that dog in him and I don't think
that's true.
That's a different story.
I did not say that.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
I said I'm not saying you said it, but people have
this view of him that he doesn'thave that dog in him.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
He does have it.
I just think he, he, that dogin him he does have it.
I just think he this season isreally gonna have to be on his a
game.
So those races are you crazy.
Let's see what he does.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Obviously he's gonna have to because again he has
mark marquez next to him.
So you can't you where everymistake he will punish you if
you make a mistake.
So he's gonna have to be on hisa game it's, and I think last
year proved that yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
So let's, let's see, let's see it pans out.
Um, yeah, uh, move on, marty.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Um, I think he's, he's gonna make the first race
yeah, he's gonna make the firstrace, but the problem is we're
gonna have a full grid, thefirst race I don't think
anyone's gonna be missing.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Huh, we were so wrong on that one.
It has since been reported thatmartin will not be attending
the first grand prix of theseason due to a training
accident.
This is big news.
This is why I love this sport.
You never know what is going tohappen on any given day.
I wish martin a speedy recoverybecause I want to see him on

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this grid.
However, he's got his teammatebezeki.
Only hope he could um, hold themantle and carry the torch for
aprilia racing.
Yeah well, back to the regularscheduling.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Let's continue this podcast the problem is will he
be fit?
Will he be fit, you know, andwill the bike be able to be
there for him?
So mark martin is coming intothe season the most unprepared,
along with who is it?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
dj dj and someone else fernandez did come backes
did come back to the ballroom.
He did come back to theballroom.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
So these three will be going into the season well
unprepared.
Martin, I think it's a bigseason for him because of that
switch, you know, and again hehad no choice but to make that
switch.
So how, and you know, to havethat crash and to have that
injury put him well on the backfoot because I, like I said I

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don't, I said to you last week,I don't think this move is going
to pay off for him in terms ofdelivering him a championship
and again, that's not his fault.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
The um, I think the bike is somewhat here because
what bezak did on it?
I'm not sure if it was justtrack specific, but at least he
could look at them like.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Well, at least the bike is somewhat here the bike
is the bike is what we saw fromthem in um buram is is track
specific.
So but again, it's you know forthe first race, I think.
I think it's you know for thefirst race, I think.
I think it's um Mark is goinginto that race as favorite, but

(54:48):
you again, pekka, could surpriseeverybody.
For me, the dark horse, I think, will be the Yamaha of Fabio.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
And Buram Yep, that's a bold one.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
You know who my dark arse is?
Who Alex Marquez.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
He's gonna be on the 24, gp, 24.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
That's my dark arse for the whole season.
Yeah, well, oh, let's see howhe goes, but I'm looking forward
to this to the start to thisseason and you know, I hope it's
.
I hope the year is an excitingone.
I want well, I think it's goingto be exciting, and I want to

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see how I think peekka mightsurprise a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, I don't think it's going to be a wash.
I think I want him to performwell.
Right, I want him to performwell because I, if Mark, is
going to go for a ninth title, Iwant him to work for it yeah
and Pekka is going to make himwork.
I don't want it to be.
Well, he was on the ducati andyou just watch pekka.

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I want it to be because healready proved.
When people say, well, youcan't win on another bike, well,
he won three races last yearand a 23.
That's, that's, that's already.
Um, he already answered thatquestion, right, so it's it's

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Alex Rins.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I'm a bit worried for Alex Rins yeah, because you
said he's still carrying thatinjury from two years ago.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I mean, I saw him when he was hobbling.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
This is this is a make or break year for him.
Yeah, because I think if hedoesn't perform, if yama gets
the bike right and he's stillnot performing, he's, he's out
the door, he's gone next yearand it's likely they could move,
because in the satellite teamit's um jack miller and bit and

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who's olivier, olivier.
Olivier could get that man out,jump up to the factory team and
let's be honest, olivier is notthat bad of a rider.
He's a decent rider.
So, yeah, so people so he's he'son the chopping block um ktms

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up in the air.
Will they even finish the year,given their financial situation
?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I think they will.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I think they will.
Well, the sport needs them tofinish the year.
If not, Carmelita Espoletawhatever you pronounce his name
might have to step in and, kindof like, fund them until the end
of the season.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I think there's rumors that they're getting
getting that there's someinvestors that are interested
and since we recorded this onsunday, news came out on monday
that bmw was actually interestedin purchasing ktm.
However, on tuesday, the peermobility group has announced
that the ktm ag's restructuringplan to pay back their creditors
and ensure survival wasaccepted in a regional court in

(58:04):
austria.
That's good for ktm.
I'm happy that, um, they'regetting a lifeline.
That's good for motor gp.
Um, I'm happy that people gotto keep their jobs.
You know, you never want to seepeople lose your jobs.
Um, yeah, but that means thatone segment of the podcast is
going to be totally edited out,because that's not old news.

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So I'm just gonna go right intothe predictions podium
predictions for this weekend'srace and motor two and motor
three and we'll just wrap it up.
What are?
What are your podiumpredictions for opening race?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
all right, hear me out.
Pecker for the win.
Yeah, mark second, alex third.
I think it's going to be ayammer, it's going to be a.
It's going to be a definitely aDucati whitewash.
I think it's definitely aDucati whitewash, but I'm going,

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I'm giving Peke a win just forjust to be to jump off the Mark
Mark Marcus bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I'm going to give Peke a win.
Okay, I'm going to go with thesame podium.
You're going to what?
I'm going gonna go with thesame podium.
You're gonna what?
I'm gonna go to the same podium.
I'm gonna go with Alex Marcusfor the win.
Really, yeah, I'm a good AlexMarcus, followed by Mark and
pickle Alex.
Reason why, when Alex, he's gotthe most fine-tuned bike

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motorcycle on them but but.
I mean I don't know how far it'sgonna be, I don't know.
That's the thing I don't know.
But I'm just saying new season,the GP 24.9.
I don't know what's going on.
Right, it might be super quickout of blocks.
He's already showed that it's aquick bike.
But when you're coming off, uh,starting a new season, and then

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there's a bike that won thechampionship last year, it's
already dialed it so it's both.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
But that's the problem with that doing that is,
those who are on 25 spec bike.
You don't know how much they'regoing to improve.
Those who are on 25 spec bike,you don't know how much they're
going to improve.
That's why I said that to you,because the Yamaha jumped what?

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
8 tenths in Sepang, yeah, but bear in mind that
Ducati doesn't always come outof plastic.
Well, with a new bike.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
A Ducati might win, it doesn't necessarily mean it's
a new one.
That's true because, if Iremember, last year they didn't
start the season with a fullspec gp24.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Did they um, they started, um, they started, they
start struggling because theydidn't figure out the chattering
from the new tires.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
So that's why I'm going with the 2024 and you see,
this is what this goes back toour argument about what the
team's seeing on the data,because again there's a lot of
things to factor in.
Tyres is the biggest.
Tyres determines how fast yougo on a bike.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, the black things are the most important.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Because it's the only thing the teams have in common.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, yeah.
So that's my prediction.
I'm going to go with AlexMarcus, just because he's got a
dialed in bike um mark pekowho's and I'm bringing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I'm having fabio bringing up the rear fabio
bringing up the rear.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I'm gonna go with um for the because he's injured.
It's probably going to be toughfor him.
Because he's injured, it'sprobably going to be tough for
him bringing up the rear.
I'ma go bezeki.
I'ma go bezeki, i'ma go toprookie firman for the first i'ma

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go firman for the first thing.
I'm gonna go firman ayagura andthen chantere in the back okay,
yeah, oh okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
That's the rookie.
That's the rookie placement,because I was thinking you're
bringing you put ayagurafinishing up high in the start
in the race.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Now the rookies rookies, um, but yeah, that's
the predictions.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Moto 2.
Yeah, who is the?
Is Sergio Garcia.
What's the kid named from?
Is it the Colombian who won theMoto 3 championship, david
Alonso?
David Alonso Because he's thefirst Colombian to ever win one
of those top flightchampionships.
They've never had one before,and I think he could surprise a

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lot of people.
But, I know you're a reasoningalready.
I know you're a reasoning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I think he could come good over it, but I don't think
he's going to feature in thefirst races.
Really, why not?
I just don't see it In histesting.
He was like what?
He was 15, 12 and somethingover the days of testing.
No, it's only testing.
I think he's going to come good, but I'm giving him like four
races.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Maybe half a season to really get up to speed,
because I said, you know, that'sjust my take.
If he comes good before that,I'm happy for him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
So who's your favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
for the championship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
For the motor.
What's my guy's name?
Again?
He rode for the Mount VDS teamlast year.
Fabio's friend, best mate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Tony Arbolino.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah, where is he at.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Tony Arbolino is at.
Where is he at now?
He's switched.
Let me tell you where he's at,because I just added him in my
notes right here.
He's at the Pramac Yamaha team,mounted 2, team Blue Crew.
Pramac Yamaha is where Mototuteam Blue crew.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Pramac Yamaha is where he's at.
Who's that again?
Tony Abilene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, see, but Ithink the favourite for this
championship should be what's myboy's name?
Is Kenneth still in Mototu?
I was going to say Kennethshould be the favourite.

(01:04:27):
How long has kenneth been in?
Motor 2 long jesus, long yothat dude's name been around for
so long.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Like it's, like he's part of furniture he should be
favorite, but, um, these, theseare some riders to look out for
for for me from my list, right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
So sergio garcia, if he hopefully recovers from what
happened that meltdown last yearyeah, because the way, because
the way he started last season,I was like yo, this kid's gonna
run away with the championshiphe reminded me of um what's his
name chelestino v v80 a coupleyears ago a couple years ago

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where he started like a house onfire and then you're just like,
okay, what's going on?
The guy I think he crashed likein seven street races are you
like you know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
He didn't do too bad last year but he started well,
but he's a fast rider becausehe's on the ktm yeah, he's a
fast rider he's on the ktm?
No, he's in the ktm.
No, he's on a no v8 umchilistino v80.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
He's on the ktm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
He rode for ktm last year no, there hasn't been a ktm
in motor 2 for a minute.
No, no, the you mean the RedBull IoT?

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah, the Red Bull.
Yeah, that's what I meant tosay.
Sorry, the Red Bull IoT, my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
He's gone to a SUP racing Super.
So these are my riders to watch, right?
If I'm basing it, I've justKennett should really come good
this year.
Well, you know, aaron Kennett,I'm not putting any money in
that, I'm just putting words onthat.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
I think if he stays injury-free, because remember a
couple of years ago he had somebad injuries- and he also didn't
know to win races.
Yeah, and I think last year hecame kind of yeah, he seemed
last year, but right as to watchsergio garcia.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Um, who's jar hargan navarro?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
he's back on the grid we'll get, we'll get navarre,
because he was in um well super.
Yeah, he was in world superschool last year and he did some
wild cards last year in motor20.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
He did well, and he did some wild cards last year in
Moto2 and he did well.
I'm glad to see that Barabaljust got a ride.
He's not a top guy, but he's asafe pair of hands, right?
So, sergio Garcia?
So this is my list for Moto2riders to watch for me Sergio

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Garcia, diego Marrera.
Who else do I have on my list?
Alonso Lopez.
We already said Kenneth, right.
Yep and I think I think Kennethand Sergio Garcia should be

(01:07:20):
favourites and I think based onthe team should be favourites
and I think, based on the teamthat he's in and now he's got it
under his belt, I think I'malook at Denis Antrou.
He's in the Red Bull KTMIO butwas he?

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
he wasn't there last year.
I think that was his first yearin the team so he's got a year
under his belt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
So so, and then I'm a wild card, David Alonso.
Jake Dixon's also there, butI'm not putting him on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Yeah, but what about the Californian Roberts?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
He's there too, but I'm not putting him on my list
either Okay.
I still think you got theseyoung hot ends like Diego
Marrera, sergio Garcia.
If David Alonso comes, good, um, I'm not putting um, um roberts

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above, like kenneth, nah, right.
So, which is why I didn't makemy list.
Um, and there's also colin buyer, but there yeah, he's the dutch
yeah, so he's um, he's dennisantro's teammate, so let's see
how that works out.
Let's see if he's gonna givedennis antro a whooping or
dennis antro is gonna come tothe fourth.

(01:08:30):
Um, yeah, that's really my list.
Um, I like that list I likethat list.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
I like that list, but I think for me I want to look
at that the Moto3 champion I,he's this just something David
Alonso, he's special.
Yeah, Because you know what youknow.
His season reminds me ofMarquez's 1-2-5 Moto3 season
2010?
.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
The kid, I mean he won what he had.
What he had what 13 poles inthe row.
I think he had what?
13 poles the whole entire yearBecause he had 12, and he had 13
people in his team and he got12 poles and he needed one more
because, you know, they got theTissot watches and I think he

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got the pole in the last race ofthe year and he ended up giving
it to the last engineer and hesaid that was his goal.
The kid, I don't know, there'ssomething special about him, so
I'm interested to see how heperforms.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
You know what's crazy about his campaign last year?
Mm-hmm.
His lowest finish was 11th,right and besides that.
So he's been out of the top 3 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 for the whole

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season of 20 races.
He's only been out of the top 35 times.
He won 4th place, won 11th, won, won, won, four, five.
For the whole season of 20races, he's only been out of the
top three five times.
He won fourth place, won 11th,won, won, won fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
How many wins did he have About 10.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
What 15.
Out of 20.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Jesus.
I mean that's an.
You know he's special 14.
You know that's special becauseyou're talking about a spec
series.
No, it's not.
Is it spec?
Yeah, because all the bikes,the engines, are pretty much
different manufacturers,different manufacturers, but

(01:10:40):
they're pretty much the samespec, just different chassis.
And 14.
Different manufacturers,different manufacturers, but
they're pretty much the samespec, just different chassis and
14.
The kid's special and I thinkhe just needs to land himself in
the right situation.
I hope where he is now in motor2 is that situation for him.
You know where I'm going to puthim.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Yeah, you know where I'm going to put him.
I'm really going gonna put himup there right, even though I
say it's probably gonna take hima couple races to get up to
speed right, it didn't take himlong to get.
So like, if you look at um onerivera, even though he he kind

(01:11:22):
of he did well in hischampionship winning season, he
wasn't a hot hand comingstraight on a motor 3 bike.
And the thing is sometimes whenyou look at a lot of these
champions, you have to look atthe years when they didn't win
the championship.
Who were they competing against?
yep because, if you look at itlike a Jamal Masi, I was over in

(01:11:43):
super sports.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
He had a great race yeah, uh, where did he finish?

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
he ended up getting a three second penalty in the
first race.
Um, you gotta look at a lot ofthese guys.
They're in these championshipsfor a while and a lot of time.
When the top dogs, the real hotants, win the championship,
move on.
That's when these guys win yeah, because there's nobody left

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sometimes you gotta look at how,so you gotta look at a lot of
these guys out there winningthese championships who was the
award of competitors at the time?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
because you know who's going back down to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Moto3.
Who?
Dennis Fajier?
What you know?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
who's going back down to Moto3?
Who?
Denis Faggia?

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
What?
And Denis Faggia, there was noslouch in Moto3.
Didn't get on with the bigbikes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah, I think that's his career in MotoGP Dead.
He's never making MotoGP, gotit.
He's never making MotoGP dead.
He's never making MotoGP.
He's never making MotoGPwithout.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
That's like door, that's they close the door.
The slammer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
They close every single door.
There's no way you can't gofrom Moto2 back down to Moto3.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I think you're going to make it up to MotoGP yeah
he's out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
That's done Pretty much.
His career is going to end upprobably being Super Sport.
I don't even think he's goingto end up at Superbike Super
Sport is going to end up for hislife.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
I was wondering why he didn't go to Super Sport, but
I guess if he's getting a ifhe's getting a chance to stay in
the paddock.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
He's still in the paddock and whilst we think he
probably won't get a motor GPright, he could get still end up
getting another motor toolright Next year.
Yeah, so it's still.
You still want to be in motorGP?
Yeah, definitely, if you can bebeing there, because, again,
it's where you want to be, saywhere everybody wants to be yeah
, so that, yeah, but but that'sit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
That's it for him, though yeah, it's pretty much
dead.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
That's moto gp career dead.
But anyway, moto 3 I don't knowwhat's going on in Moto3.
I don't know who's in Moto3that I can look at and say yeah.
So you're probably going tohave to fill me in on that one
there's a few guys there's,there's, there's another protege

(01:14:16):
coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I'm trying to find him.
Max Quiles I think his name ispronounced max.

(01:14:37):
What quiles, quiles,q-u-i-l-e-s.
Pardon if I butchered his nameq-u-i-l-e-s quiles.
Now, I really butchered that.
Well, I didn't say I was anEnglish major, so Let me see
where the line up is.
Let me see where it is.
They don't even have him On thelist yet.
Oh yeah, they got him.

(01:14:59):
Cfmoto Aspar Maximo Quills.
Oh yeah, they got him.
Cf moto aspar maxi maximoquills, spanish.
Yeah, so this is him.
Yeah, he's, his name is trackrecord.
Yeah, I found, but there was nopicture yeah, they said um okay
, no, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
this is a replacement rider, but it seems like he's
going to start the season.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Yeah, he's not starting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
The Aspar team has announced that.
Max, what do you say?
You pronounce it Maximo QuillsQ-U-I-L-E-S.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Will be replaced by Jacob Rassen-Aylor in the
opening races at the upcoming2025 Moto3 World Championship.
I can see that to the spanishwriter, always under management
of mark marquez, but rather hisage, jacob rossenthaler for the
replacement yeah, so this kid ison uh.
So this is the kid that I sawwith mark and um.

(01:15:57):
You know what?
Everyone that listen, I take itback.
This is a kid that I saw withuh, mark and david alonso,
because you know they traintogether.
So now that I'm thinking aboutit, david alonso should be okay.
Now if he's training with markand alex, he should be all right
.
It means that he's been ridinga big motorcycle I tell you that

(01:16:19):
.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
I tell you the boy is gonna be good in motor too.
Man, just watch this.
So I didn't say it was notgonna be good in Moto 2, just
watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I didn't say he was not going to be good.
I think he's going to come goodquicker than I'm anticipating
well, let's see, let's see yeah,so, yeah.
So Moto 3.
We'll just touch on thatbriefly for anyone listening.
If you want to watch MotoGP, ifit's not broadcasted in your

(01:16:47):
country, you could just goonline and get it MotoGPcom and
get yourself a MotoGP pass.
It's worth the money becauseyou also get to watch the
historical races and you've gotsome banners on that historical
races man some proper.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Was it malaysia 2015, marquez rossi australia 2015 as
well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
There's a lot of lorenzo, yeah.
So yeah, I think moto gpsubscription video pass is
actually a great bang for buck,because for anyone who's new to
the sport, they really want togo back and just watch some
stuff from and I think yeah,just be in mind, a lot of those
videos are going to look likeit's taped on vhs, because it
probably was.
Yeah, it looks crazy.

(01:17:33):
I tried to watch it the otherday.
I'm like wow, if you go backand watch casey stoner's 2007,
isn't that video quality isterrible and 2007 isn't really
long ago, is it nope that was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
That was what 18 years ago that tells you how far
we've come with videotechnology and everything else
actually, when you thought, whenyou think about it in 2007
seems like it was just yesterday, but 18 years has.
It's a little.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
It's a little uh my bones are creaking more now.
All right, and so for me, uh,motor three.
As you see it, you don't umknow a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Yeah, I don't really follow much of the riders in
motor three that much edrianfernandez, which is um.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Ralph fernandez, younger brother, he, he, he did
decent on the back end of theseason, so I'm looking at what
he's gonna do.
Um, I'm looking at this maximokid as well, and there's another
person that I'm looking atwhich is going to be.
Where is he at?
Uh, where is he at?
I'll say, antonio rueda is oneto look out for too yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
He's the one that they said smashed the lap record
where they did the test yeah,ah, this is the guy I'm looking
for.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
How do you pronounce Angel in Spanish?
Angel, angel, angel.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Piqueiras, he's not a rookie, is he?
He was there last year.
He's not a rookie is he?

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
He's not a rookie, I'm justsaying more riders to watch for
the 2025 Moto3 season.
So I got Angel Piqueiras,Adrian Fernandez, Maximo Quals,
Jose Antonio Rueda.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Yeah, I think the Moto3 season might be the more
exciting of the three.
Yeah, because, again, you knowthese guys are young, they're
hungry, they want to provethemselves, they want to.
You know they're in theshopping window for a move up to
Moto2.
So they're going to be hungry.
But you know, just to recap theseason going forward, motogp,

(01:19:52):
marc Marquez, pekka Bagnaia willbe the feature story for the
whole entire season.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Whole will you know, until someone throws a spanner
in the works and shock us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Yeah, but I can't see any.
That would have to be the aspanner in the works and
shockers.
Yeah, but I can't see any.
I can't see any.
That would have to be thebiggest spanner ever made,
because right now the ducati, Ithink the ducati, even if they
go back to the 24 bike, will beany other 25 bike on the grid.
It's that good a bike, you know, but everything would come down
depends on um.
How is it michelin?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
they use right yeah, it's the same tires from last
year.
It's consistent, they haven'tchanged the tires.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
So they haven't.
So there you go.
So they have.
They have that data that theycan work with.
So it's going to be I'm looking, just like with the other
categories, formula one I'mlooking forward to see what this
season entails for everybodyand I hope you know it delivers.
I want to see.
I want to see if, like you said, if marcus was to win the

(01:20:51):
championship I don't want it tobe a at a canter, I want to see
peko all right, anyone who canstep up yeah, I don't see anyone
outside of a Ducati stepping up.
It can only be a Ducati rider.
There's no other bike out therebetter than the Ducati.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
That's what I'm saying.
What if?
What if Digi and Antonio stepsup Like he's on?
You know, you never know.
Any Ducati rider could step up,you know, on any given sunday
or throughout the season.
Let's just wait and see.
The more the more, the merrierfor me definitely definitely,
the more, the more, the merrierfor me.

(01:21:28):
So, um, I'm all good with that.
Um, actually, we also have afantasy, so if I'm actually
going to post it on, so we'regoing to set up a fantasy league
we have a motor MotoGP fantasy.
I already set it up already theGrand Prix project.
Okay, let me see if I couldshare it.
I'm going to share it on.

(01:21:48):
Let me see what it says.
Copy code Send invites Okay, x.
Let me share this now and thenI'm just going to pin it.
Okay, let's do this.
Let me switch this around.
Yeah, I'm gonna post it on x x.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Yeah, just put it out there so we can get some.
See if we can get some peopleinvolved.
And we have to put some prizes,though for whoever wins the
league, get him some merch yeah,that's when those come.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
They're designed, but I just haven't.
I have to find the right supply.
Supply.
I got designs and everything,as you've seen.
You like the designs?
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, I got some cool designs,so we just need to find the
right, because I just don't wantjust to go get any old T-shirt

(01:22:56):
or any old.
You know, I like quality stuff,so I like to give people
quality stuff, so I'll take mytime on those and when the time
is right, they will see.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
We don't do cheapness over here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Ultimately, it's just about trying my best to make it
affordable as well.
So that's one of the tricksthat I run is because the more
affordable, the cheaper thematerial and the build quality.
So that's something that I'mtussling with right now, but

(01:23:32):
I'll figure it out.
I'm sure I'll figure it out,okay, cool.
So, yeah, we're just going towrap this one up.
This is a quick fire into MotoGPopener.
As I said, once the season getsgoing, we'll have a lot more to
discuss.
You know, we're going to invitemore people on and, yeah, if

(01:23:52):
you're an avid MotoGP fan, oreven if you're just someone that
is just getting into the sport,casual, casual Just let us know
.
Follow us on on x on twitter,all right, the grand prix
project pot, the gp project pod,and, yeah, you know, we're

(01:24:14):
going to be inviting on somepeople as we go along.
As I said, this is actuallyvideo recorded.
I just haven't posted thevideos, um.
So, yeah, just follow us.
Give us a like when you comment, just let us know where you're
listening from as well, and thenwe'll give you a shout out also
.
So, once again, thank you fortuning into the Grand Prix

(01:24:34):
Project with Andre and the bigbro Thanos876.
Follow me also the GP ProjectDre on X.
That's my personal X account,and where can they find you, big
bro?

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Same place on X Thanos, that's with a 7.
H-a-n-o-s-876.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
All right.
So, once again, thank you allfor listening.
Wherever you're tuning in from,just follow us.
Us, let us know.
We appreciate every person thatlistens, download and follow us
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Appreciate y'all.
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