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July 26, 2025 61 mins

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The Grateful Podcast with Jack Wagoner
Episode 91
Guesting Trey Tucker

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Why are so many young people, especially men, feeling lost, anxious, and disconnected?

In this powerful episode of The Grateful Podcast, I sit down with therapist Trey Tucker (aka @ruggedcounseling) to unpack the quiet crisis in masculinity and mental health.

We dive deep into:
 • The real reason anxiety is rising in young men
 • Why the gym, hustle, and self-help culture often mask emotional pain
 • How to find your calling in a world full of noise
 • The difference between happiness, joy, and fulfillment
 • And why being still might be the bravest thing you do

If you’ve ever felt numb, directionless, or just unsure of what it means to be a man today—this conversation is for you.

Trey’s wisdom will hit you in the gut and heal you at the same time.

Chapters:
0:00 Intro – Why young men are confused  
3:42 Anxiety is a messenger, not a malfunction  
8:19 The trap of instant solutions  
13:06 Stop chasing happiness — chase this instead  
17:30 How to get unstuck  
22:50 3 reasons anxiety is rising today  
28:40 What anxiety really wants you to do  
33:45 Are you addicted to productivity?  
38:10 Gym culture, discipline & emotional avoidance  
44:20 Why calling is the antidote to numbness  
49:00 Rethinking masculinity  
52:35 What Trey would say to every young man  
56:00 Gratitude + ambition = fulfillment  
59:25 Healing is remembering who you are  
1:01:45 Outro + Where to find Trey



🔗 Trey Tucker / Rugged Counseling:
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruggedcounseling/?hl=en
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ruggedcounseling?lang=en
• Rugged Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@RuggedCounseling/podcasts

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🎙️ About Jack:
I’m an 18-year-old high school student with a big dream: to show the world that you can be grateful and ambitious at the same time. Through The Grateful Podcast, I explore what it means to live a meaningful life—one deep conversation at a time.


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