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August 13, 2025 56 mins

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Most people think getting healthy means training harder, eating cleaner, and pushing further. Jim Laird disagrees.

After 25+ years coaching everyone from NFL pros to everyday people, Jim’s learned that chasing extreme performance often destroys long-term health. In this episode, he shares the 5 fundamentals that can completely reset your energy, sleep, and mood — without the burnout cycle.

We cover:

  • Why most fitness advice fails
  • The “indoor zoo” effect destroying human health
  • Health vs. performance (and why you don’t need to train like a pro athlete)
  • The role of play in building lifelong physical resilience
  • How connection + nature can replace 90% of what people chase in gyms and supplements

If you feel stuck, burnt out, or like you’ve “tried everything” — this episode will change how you think about health forever.

Find Jim:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gymlaird/

Join the Vitality Brotherhood/Sisterhood → vitalitybrotherhood.com

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Health and Wellness Philosophy
02:59 The Five Fundamentals of Health
05:52 The Importance of Foundation in Fitness
08:02 Social Media and Fitness Expectations
10:59 The Impact of Modern Technology on Health
13:59 The Role of Community and Connection
16:56 The Importance of Outdoor Activity
20:01 The Dangers of Isolation and Loneliness
23:18 The Need for Balance in Modern Life
31:21 The Shift from Outdoor Play to Digital Engagement
33:35 Understanding Health vs. Performance
35:26 The Balance of Athleticism and Health
40:40 The Importance of Multi-Sport Participation
48:36 Cultural Differences in Athletic Development
50:29 Gratitude and Personal Growth

📺 Listen on your favorite platform:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-grateful-podcast-with-jack-wagoner/id1725776061
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5EsTEpQAjU4BxUrDoFyZ6b

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jack_wagoner_/
1:1 Coaching & Dream-Chasing Guidance: jackcwagoner@gmail.com

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🎙️ About Jack:
I’m an 18-year-old high school student with a big dream: to show the world that you can be grateful and ambitious at the same time. Through The Grateful Podcast, I explore what it means to live a meaningful life—one deep conversation at a time.

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