Episode 214: Woodstock 99: Peace, Love, and Chaos

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THIS EPISODE CONTAINS GRAPHIC AND EXPLICIT CONTENT. LISTENER DISCRETION IS ADVISED

In this week's episode, we discuss the horror that took place at Woodstock 99. We'll share theories on who we think is at fault. What all lead to the madness, and much more. Do you remember hearing about this on the news? Did you attend the event? Share your thoughts on this with us in the comments. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, What up? This is Jay mus and you're listening
to the Grays Taproom podcast Snoop to the news. What's up,

(00:39):
ladies and germs.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome to a brand new episode of the Grays Stapproom podcast.
I am one of your co hosts the trash Can Tabby.
Today we are talking about Woodstock ninety nine and with
me as always take his shirt off, he balls with
the ball to bangy bang diggits, and he porter potty

(01:03):
serves through the sludge, mud and feces Tennessee. What's he Mike? Hello,
super excited about this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The documentary that we watched that Netflix dropped was super cool.
Like I so I was uh, thirteen, yep, and just
getting into I'm really burpy guys. Sorry, you're fine. The
the metal scene, the music scene, well no, no, no,

(01:39):
I take that back. I wasn't a part of that
until I was about sixteen. So I'm still listening to
like Backstreet Boys and church music at this point. So
I didn't watch the news. I knew nothing about you
know anything about this, And then when you were like, oh,
they're a documentary, you want to watch it, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, I do. I've always wondered about have you heard no,
you never heard this existed in the idea? None? Really? No? Wow?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I mean I've heard you talk about it a
couple of times, but I didn't really think about it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Do you need this on you? Nope? Okay, good, not yet.
I'm burning up up here. You're good. The studio gets
really hot this time year, it really does.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
So the sun is right there and it just comes
in and it's hot.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
But no, I've never heard about it, like I've heard
you mention it a couple of times, like you wish
you were there?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, I don't. You don't want to be No, no, no, no,
so not when I was fourteen.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Do you think that what happened at now line, do
you think it would happened at ninety nine? Has paved the.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Way for safety? Big show.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Of course, Louder than Life is coming up in September. Yeah,
Bourbon and Beyond is coming up again in September.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Then you have like, what is that slaughterfest?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Well, oh, summer slaughter, Summer slaughter and even uh, back
when I was living in Memphis, we had the Bill
Street Music Festival, which was Thursday through Sunday.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, but Beal Street, though there were bars and restaurants
that you can go into and buy, like well, buy
a drink and go to the bathroom. It wasn't in
a big, huge open field yes where yeah, well, but
you could still go to Beale Street.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
You had to like walk. They only called it Bill
Street Music Fest, well Memphis and May Bill Street Music Festival.
But because Bill Street is like the it's it's like,
take what like what you guys have with four fourth
Street live here, yeah, and multiply it by like twenty Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I know I've been there.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, I've been there.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
But what I'm saying though, is there was an opportunity.
It wasn't at Champions Park like we have here with
Louder than Life and Bourbon and beyond to where there
is a literally nothing around you.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah. Plus we had five we had five stages.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Louder than Life. Yeah, Louder now has four. They used
to have more, but because there's so much. But like,
do you think it set the tone as like, hey,
this is kind of.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
What they didn't need to happen.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, I do, even though it did kind of happen
at uh that Waverley show.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Oh I didn't go to that go there. No, No,
you went to the Expo five one. Yes, that was
still bad. Jace went to the Waverley one, right, but that.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Was still bad at Expo Yeah, that was still bad.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
To the Waverley one.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yes, he said that because was there. Yes, he said
that bottles of water were ten or twenty dollars apiece
because he's what year was that we were together, So
it was like nine or ten we.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Were huh, I know, yeah, him and him and Michelle
went to Michelle went friend Michelle. Yeah, they went together
and like a group of other people, Yeah, a group.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Of people went together. It might have been some of
his buddies from work, but I do know that he
said that bottles of water they started off at like
two dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Dam I could have swore that was like eight mm okay.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
No, because I really, I really think we were together
because that night he texted He texted me and was like, hey,
I don't know what's going on. Uh there's been no water,
there's been no food, They've ran out of everything, and
people are literally dying. I might need you to come,
or you or might come and get me.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I thought.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I fel like I'll have to look it up, but
I know it was at Waverley Hills. I know it
was a disaster. I know it was almost like Woodstock
nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I don't think anything will ever be like Woodstock ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
No, no, absolutely not after watching that documentary Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So for those of you younger folks that don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, I'm not younger, but I learned, so let's learn them.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So Woodstock ninety nine, it was actually, uh, this week
is the anniversary the twenty.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Third, so the on Monday, twenty first.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Wednesday is this is the twenty sixth anniversary. What's of
the deadliest concert of all time?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It wasn't deadly? There were no deaths, Yes, there were
no there weren't. I looked it up. There's no deaths.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Three people died really, yes, from heat exhaustion. Oh. I
googled the shit out of it and there were no deaths. Yeah,
there were only only three, which surprisingly, I mean, it
still sucks, but it's awful.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
But that's still good compared to how many people did that.
Paramedic say, was like they were running out of supplies.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
On day one.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, Like there was no bandages, there was no ice packs,
there were no water, there was nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
They had uh no IV bags. Well, they they had
medical tents. But by yeah, by like going into day
two after the first day that was all wiped out
because it was so hot. But they couldn't bring This
is in New York. Frank said, this happened an hour
away from his house.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yes, I seen that.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
He was like, yeah, dude, I.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Right from bruising banter guy.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Shout out uh but yeah, he was like at ground
zero almost I want an uh oh. I remember last
week when we were watching the dock at like the
in the opening scene of the opening credits and all
that for it, It's like, hey, that guy looks familiar
and who who did we see? Yeah it was the Miz.

(07:46):
The Miz was there so not. I said, if I
ever meet him, I'm gonna be like, dude, what was
it like, Yeah, like we want the download. I bet
he was like, dude, after like the first day, fuck this,
I'm out. This sucks. I'm going home.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You could also see in the documentary that everybody on
day two, towards the middle end of it, yeah, they're like,
we want to be here for the bands, but this sucks.
Yeah again, water they ran out of water.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
The line to the showers, yeah is what six hours long?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Something like that, four.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
To six hours long.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
The water refill station or whatever that they.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Had, well, remember they said the pipes had broken, so
all the water refills was run off from the porta potty.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It was brown.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, and you could see like people they what they
thought was mud that they were having fun in.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Know that that was day that was mid day two.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, they were playing around in shit. Have you.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Anything on the infield for Derby?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah? South End jinks? Oh, I know, Southend jinks. But
this is the shit of up to four hundred thousand people.
That's gross. I mean it was like one person shit
is terrible. Four hundred thousand. This event had between an
estimated two hundred and twenty to four hundred thousand people.

(09:09):
That's so many drugs on an air base. On an
air base, so.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Many drugs being pushed around.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, I remember on the dock they were showing like
some of the some of like the drug dealers that
were there. Those were really chill dudes. They were just there, Hey,
do you want to get time? Well, and this and
it was the thirtieth anniversary celebration for the nineteen sixty
nine Woodstock, which was just people chill u let's.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Just spoken weed, taking shrooms, having sex, just.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
And just listen to listening to Grateful Dead and Ward
Skinner was skinnered at the sixty nine. I don't know, no, no,
because they weren't that big, not in the late sixties.
They were more of an early seventies Blue Oyster. Colt
was there. I think that far. No, But some of
the bands that were here at this one, I mean

(10:05):
it's pretty pretty rad. You had Red Hot, Chili Peppers, Metallica,
my favorite band, fucking dmx Lin Biscuit, Corn, Alanis Morsett,
Bush Kid Rock, Creed was there, Uh, Jeff Beck Jewel
was there, Sheryl Crow, she sucks goodness, ice Cube, and

(10:31):
I mean James Brown was there. It had like all
the all the genres were here.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So you guys, if you get a chance, go watch
the Netflix documentary because they get kind of like deep
and like dirty into it. Like they were.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
They had on site.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Reporters like in the crowd with the people and like
reporting like but from the field, everybody's throwing up and
dying andaching each other's butts and like, yeah, they were.
They were really there, and they were like either people
liked the bands or they didn't like the bands. They
ran out of water, there were riots, There was like

(11:12):
all of this shit going on. So Day one total chill.
People were parking, people were showing up, they were pitching
tents in more ways than one.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
They were.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
They were just you know, getting the lay of the land.
Bands were playing, people were going crazy, like it was.
It was a good time. Yeah, nobody knew what was
in store.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
And I do remember.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
On on the documentary they said at the end of
day one, we knew we were screwed because we were
out of beverages and half of the food and like
some kid had a salad and a bottle of water
and he said the salad and a bottle of wine

(12:00):
water was twelve dollars. I do believe, yeah, and that's
unheard of back in ninety nine. Like and it was
a small like you go to Windy's and like, hey,
can I have a side salad? And that's kind of
what you get. And it was I don't remember what

(12:22):
food they said. There was like a taco truck and
but people were buying beer. Beer never ran out, No
pall beverages didn't run out, but everybody was like, we
need water, and they're like, oh, sorry, we don't have
any letter. I'm gonna drink water. You're gonna drink from
the nasty brown pipe water.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So check this out.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I found a timeline of incidents. Well do we have?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
God, so this I found this one kind of kind
of funny, I guess given our sense of humor. Yeah,
you know, okay, Okay, it's still not funny, but well
it's funny not funny. This is on Friday, July twenty third.
Unruly behavior from those in attendance at the festival was
present as early as the second day. Numerous mill concert

(13:10):
goers began chanting show your tits, as one does at
a concert. Ryl crow at actress Rosie Perez as she
introduced DMX alongside actor Stephen Baldwin. Annoyed by their chanting,
she retorted, I ain't showing y'all shit. DMX later performed
the song my and had the crowd chant along with him.

(13:31):
Media outlets later reacted to this confusion and outrage as
the overwhelmingly white audience chanted the word along with him.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Was the beab first letter, first letter.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Oh uh uh. The same letter can be found kicking
off the word nincom poop or necktie or nickelodeon. Okay,
nicol nicol nine. You know comes after.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
In before, Oh comes after m m M comes.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
After M before. I was but that's the word letter. Sorry,
but yeah, uh and uh yes. They did it to
Cheryl Crow too.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
They did it to every artist.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
She was like, oh, you guys gonna have to pay
a lot more if you want to see my tits.
But she was like, she was like, yeah, she was
having so she got out to Crow for having fun.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
She had fun while soaking up the sun.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah. I hate that. I hate it.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I hate it too, I do.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
But you got to realize though Day one, everybody's vibe
and everybody's jamming like they're they're learning what's going on,
how to how to just be there.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah. Day two, it's typical outdoor music festival ship. Yes,
we're guys, we want to see tits. We're girl show
us your day. No, y'all don't do that here. No,
that's boring. No, those are gross. See dude, helicopter and
flying like drones all over the fun.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Those are gross widers are weird.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
You're just mad you ain't got one.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I mean I do on my nightstand, okay, but no, like,
so day one was like cool, like they were showing
the good parts of it.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
They were my nightstand.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Get that gross thing off there, No, my nights stand,
the one across from okay, but anyway, so night one.
Day one was like chill. Everybody was like making friends.
Everybody was just like doing their things, learning.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Jesus Christ, spit shot, oh, drink it. Sorry, I had.
I drank and had to cough at it is.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
All over fucking soundboard and the table.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
We don't have anything.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
But that's okay. Uh, anyway, we'll get it.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
No you're not.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, I am okay.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
That was funny.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I had to cough and I can wash this out.
If you're watching this on YouTube, I thought, oh if
I don't want to cough again, so I'll just wash
it away. That didn't work. My call was like fuck
your bear, bitch.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Oh my god, that's so good. But Day one was
everybody like, hey, we're gonna park, we're gonna pitch our tents.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
We're just gonna chill.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Like there's bands, we're gonna have fun. Let's figure out
what anybody who's been to a con or a festival
or a show, like you get your bearings about you
your first day. Yeah, so the first day everybody was
just like, hey, we're gonna find friends that are around us.
Let's just have fun. Uh, we'll go to the stage whatever.

(17:09):
And then onto the second day. Yeah, the second day
is where it starts getting back. That is where you
find out like the producers, the stage hands, the the
reporters who are reporting from the field, like people are
starting to get a.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Little bit well, going back to day one, there was
one thing in the dock I wanted to talk about
real quick, which is it's James Brown, his people, his people.
He was getting ready to go on. He was at backstage.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Gave him twenty thousand dollars, not that towel. Just it'll
be all right, Dad, spit beer everywhere I tried.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I tried.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I tried to cough and it went poof. He did
a spit take. He is a goober.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah we are.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
We're totally recording.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Right now, not editing any of the cell.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Fine, you're good. Oh you muted yourself.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I'm not editing any of the sell.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's fine, we're good, but there's Gunner's hand and his
uh slick hair.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Cool, all right, thank you for the towel, Thank you, Bud.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
But I like the way that they were, like he
wanted fifty thousand dollars to eat.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
It was twenty but he had paid, had been paid some.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
No, he got paid ten thousand up front.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
His people were like, but he was like, just we
go on fucking stage and play. Well no they said that.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, they were like, no, you got to pay us
the other half. Now he didn't care, or he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
He doesn't go on stage and he's like, well, my
client doesn't perform for anything less.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Than right, you got to pay us the rest of it.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
And James Brown I will when he performed, and James
Brown was like, get the fuck out of the way,
and he was. And he went up there and murdered,
oh yeah. He had the whole crowd like, oh yeah,
fucking saw music on a Friday. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
But if you so, let's revert back to your high
school days. Okay, you're in a band. I was, Yeah,
we both were, but let's say the band shut.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Let's shout out aftermath okay, so.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Let's go take it now. Right now, let's go to
Louder than Life. Say you were to play a stage,
but you had a u a manager who said, hey,
you pay us x amount now just to put our
name on the bill, but then before we perform, or

(19:33):
you know, between now and then, you give us x amount.
Then would you say fuck you, I know you're gonna
pay me, or would you be like, nope, I'm not
performing until you pay me.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I'm playing exactly. Why am I in a band? Oh?
Because I want to play fucking music, right right? It's
not well, if you're in a band, you can get rich.
No right, that money fame, but no, go ahead, get
out of here with that. I'm in I'm in the
band because I want to play music for Let me
say they know you.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, let's say that you're well known like James Brown
and you go to the stage.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, I wish I was James.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
But say you were on the main main stage at
Louder than Life, the main stage where the big big
names play. So say you were to play the main stage,
but you know you are like, hey, I'm not gonna
be screwed over and you're not gonna not pay me, right,
you still would you tell your manager, fuck this, I'm

(20:34):
gonna play. These people want to see me play. We'll
get our money later. Yeah, absolutely, because that's what I
would do if if I was if I was an artist.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I would with with with that in my brain. I'm
at fucking Woodstock yep on the stage, Yeah, playing my
music later for four hundred thousand people. I'm fuck that.
I'm at fucking Woodstock, the most legendary concert of all time.
No concert will ever have a bigger name than Woodstock.

(21:09):
That one word cemented in history, Louder than life.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think. Don't quote me on this, but I think
their largest number was either eighty or ninety thousand people.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, and that's it, And.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
That is what fourth of what woods.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
That's like Woodstock. It's like you have a dollar, I
have one hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, So I would be the same way. But I
like the way that James Brown said, fuck you, I'm
going on stage.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah. He was like, it's the fuck out ray, I'm
getting up on stage. Yeah. He killed it. Yeah, is
his age, and everybody fucking loved him, even though.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Seventy five percent of the people were there for like
corn and let Me Get Kid Rock.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
And Creed Metallica. Yeah, yeah, the Offspring was there. Dexter
Holland from the Offspring got hit in the head during
one of their songs and brushed it off. He actually
saw a girl getting sexually assaulted and stopped their performance
to call it out. Yeah, which I thought cool on him,

(22:18):
because well for the Offspring fucking rules anyway, and for
them not having that ship during their set. Yeah. Fuck yeah,
We're here to play music, have fun. Stop pulling these
girls' shirts up and grabbing their pussies and putting fingers
in their butts.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well that's That's one of the things though, is like
the bad stuff didn't really Yes, there were some bad
stuff on Friday, but the really bad stuff didn't start
happening till.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, when Limp Biscuit played break stuff. Well yeah, when
do you remember when Limp Biscuit they were later.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
On in the day.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
They were they were Saturday evening, right.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
But Metallica Metallica played like earlier. Yes, they performed on Saturday.
While the band's performance itself was not directly involved in
the festival's infamous chaos, the event as a whole was
married by extreme heat, lack of resources like water and
sanitary conditions, and ultimately devolved into violence, riots and reports

(23:21):
of sexual assault.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah. Uh, Alanis Morris On Saturday, Alanis morriset opened before
she played before Limp Biscuit. Yes, she started. The fans
were channing Limp Biscuit at her, and she got almost
booed off the stage because they wanted to see Fred
and the Boys.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, but she gave it back to them. She's like, yeah,
you're gonna have to deal with me first.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Like, I I feel like the lineup wasn't like I
get it, Like there's a I.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Think Metallica should have closed out Saturday because it's fucking Metallica.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Right, agree. I feel like they they were spacing it
like they had a famous band or a rock band,
and then they had.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
A alternative, yeah, and then they had a hip hop
band or a rap band yeah, And then they had
another rock band, then they had an alternative, and they
just they rotated to kind of like appease everybody on
what they wanted.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I'll tell you what, the walk seeing him walk on stage.
The person that made me the most uncomfortable was Kid Rock.
Oh yeah, and that big ass for a coat, no one,
it was like ninety five degrees outside. Yeah, and he
was dude, take that shit off, do not wear that.
I am, you're making it.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
But still, honestly, it's it's all about all about the
location all that too.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Plus kid Rock, I mean early kid Rock was that guy.
He was again, he was cooler. He was cooler than
he is.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Going back to to Jase, So when Jace, my little brother,
started playing shows, he would wear his pleather pants and
a band shirt and like, I'm surprised his pants haven't
been cut off of him multiple times or there was
a zipper to get it off of him. Like it's

(25:28):
all about the showmanship.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, it is. Look at there's still bands like that
today that do that ship right.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
So it would be like, let's say I was in
a gimmick, a Viking metal band, and we're in the
middle of the Kentucky fucking heat in September and we
play Louder than Life, but we're all dressed to the
nines as Vikings. Yeah, like we're gonna wear those fur
coats for this hour that we're gonna play this set,

(26:00):
We're gonna We're gonna deal with it afterwards. But right now,
we're gonna present, We're gonna look great.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well kid takes this for a coat off before. Yeah. So,
and he's got a wife beater on. Do you think that?
And red parachute pants. Remember parachute pants. Oh my god,
they were so gay. They're so gay.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
They had a pair of the purple turquoise.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's the Hornets, the Charlotte Hornets team, the turquoise and purple. Yeah,
I never had.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Any would you would you say that Kid Rock at
that point started the bullshit.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I have the quote. I have the quote that, in
my opinion, started the bullshit. This is from Fred Durst
mm hm. Time to reach down deep inside and take
all that negative energy, all that negative energy, and let
that shit out of your fucking system. And this is
halfway through a set. You got girl problems, you got
boy problems, you got parent problems, boss problems, job problems,

(27:11):
you got a problem with me, you got a problem
with yourself. Trying to take all that negative energy and
put it the fuck out. And he did that during
the breakdown, during break stuff, during break stuff. Yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Break your fucking face tonight.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
As he's crowdsurfing on a giant wooden slab. People are
carrying fred Durst through the crowd.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Mind you the wood slats, yes, the wood slats were
on the sound stage.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Well, no, this one they pulled off of the side
of the stage, the actual stage.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yes, I thought that one was the sound stage when
they started deconstructing.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
No, but this is like towards the end of Limp
Biscuits set where they're climbing that the sound tower and
unscrewing stuff. But they were like pulling those this was Yeah,
they were disemboweling the artwork. Yes, that too, that's what they.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Were trying to get people to surf on.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, they were, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
You can.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
You can see a lot of people who are like,
I mean it looked cool though, but you see fred
Dirst like surfing on a piece of wood thruit and
but it was like, yeah, but it was really cool
to see you're one of us, Like that is the
most fread dorship one of us, one of us that haunt.
But that is like one of the most like early

(28:37):
Limp Biscuit things to see is that that red backwards
Yankees had And they're just jeans and DC shoes.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, they're just they're amp and they're they're vamping, They're.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Rampant, and they were. They were in the middle of
their tour for Significant Other that came out that year.
That was a brand new album, and that was the
most popular song.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Wasn't Night to the I where they deconstructed the sound
tower and the one guy who was in the sound
tower was like, hey, we need help over here.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, people were climbing up it.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
All of the fucking security was literally like, oh, I'm
part of the production company. My cousin is going to
come in and be security. He's never done security before.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah. It was oh my god. Oh. And on Saturday,
Uh in the dock that we were watching, there was
something that really bothered me, which was, how come you're
gonna have people go from Corn uh huh to Beck
uh huh. Oh no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
The lead singer of Beck said, I cannot fucking follow that.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, he said, why did I have to follow that?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
You could see like even the fear eyes talking about it,
even talking about it thirty years later, he.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Said, you're watching why Corn? You're watching like tour? Follow
the Leader. Follow the Leader was one of the top
albums of the year at that time. Maybe the Yeah
I don't know. But and and they're playing song their

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god damn, they're playing like got the life freaking a leash.
They opened with blind yeah are you and the crowd
just hundreds of thousands of people just going. And then
and then all right, well that's done. Here comes Jeff Beck.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
We're gonna bring you all the way up here and
drop no no here up here, and then we're gonna
bring back don't let.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
The day girl shut up, you stupid fuck.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think strategically they could have done, could have done.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Biscuit was before how do you go from that that high,
that energy slow they were.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I think they were trying to hire them out, like
get them ramped up and tire them out and then
bring them down.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
But Beck was booed.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
If you watch the documentary, Beck was fucking booed.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
He played his whole set though he did. He was
a soldier, He soldiered right through it.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
But everybody was throwing ship. But the third night is
when they were really throwing. So the second night was
the second night, the night that the and they stole
the car.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
It was a it was an RV, yeah, no, it
was a truck. Well, there was a lot of vehicles
were stolen.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well yeah, but that night though, I thought that they
stole one of the production trucks or.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
The Sunday is when all of those got set on.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Fire, I know, but I thought the second night was
the night. Oh that's because they had the candles on
the third night. Yeah, for the Columbine. Yeah, they did
the Columbine.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Did they do a thing? Yeah, because column Yeah, the
Columbine was just a couple of months earlier, three months
ago April. Yeah, it was on April twenty. But go
listen to that episode. It's available in the Tapplan marchives.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
It is. But no, So the second night though, was
you could see a lot of topless females. There were
females that they interviewed on this on this documentary and
they were like, you know, we didn't CrowdSurf, but we've
seen other females who did CrowdSurf.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
We're going to grab their tits yeah, and stick our
hands down their pants other places. Yeah. Well, what's what
sucks is is on Friday, it was Hey, we're going
to do this because we want to. Yeah, we're gonna
hang We're going to show you our pussy's and we're
going to show you our tits and our assholes, but
you should. On Saturday it was okay, we don't want
to now stop and and everybody else was, no, you're

(33:01):
gonna do it. We're gonna We're gonna show them for you.
Then huh, yeah, that's why I I don't like going
to outdoor music festivals anymore. I don't. I don't want to.
I don't want to see that ship right. I don't
want to be I don't want it to be in
my presence. I don't want to. I don't want to
be around it when okay, I'm too old for that ship.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
So when I went to the Children of Botom Lamb
of God, as I lay dying.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yep, I know you called me while I was having
dinner with my mother. I know. I'm sorry, what are
you doing mad, that's a dinner with my mom? Oh?
Cool children was on right now? Then I heard in
the background, but come out here.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I felt like, I was like, mama bear. It was like, cool,
you want to show your tits, that's cool, show your tits.
But I'm gonna protect you because.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I know what's gonna happen if you decide a crowd
surf and I've heard.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
A lot of females like just being in in the
the genre.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Like when you're done. I have a funny story about
a woman showing her tits and I was not okay
with it.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, but as females are crowdsurfing, what you guys don't
understand is not just hands to lift them up and
pass them on. Hands also go into orifices because they
want to. Yeah, there was a lot of sexual assaults

(34:29):
during Woodstock, but what is your.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
So when me and Nick went to it was my
last time going to the bill Street Music Fest. It
was right before Hubistink was coming on stage. Oh okay,
there was a girl who no one found attractive and
she was showing her tits. Wow, it was about she
was about like maybe twenty thirty yards away from us.

(34:52):
She was closer to the stage right. Some guy that
was standing next to me said, I'll never forget it.
She's not hot enough to be doing that. And I said,
are you doing know that turkey leg? He goes, yeah,
here you go. I think he knew what I was

(35:13):
gonna do, so I just yolked it and thing oh connected.
And it was one of those like State Fair Turkey legs.
Yea more than big old like bowling pins. Yeah, I
just yolked that shit boom knocked her off of her
boyfriend's shoulders and down, goes Frazier.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Very nice. I'm surprised her boyfriend could hold her up
at that point.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, she wasn't like a plus size galop. Yeah, she
was just she was just too ugly to be showing
her tits.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
She's a butterface.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Her her boobs looked like holding up two rags on
your on a flat chest. It was just like chimp
chimpanzee tits look like primate tits. Yeahs and Nick goes,
I can't believe you got that on the first try,
titty dusters, I said, what did you want me to try?
Aganified miss? Yes, yes, they were triangle shaped. Oh, it

(36:11):
looked like she had two like flesh colored pieces of
construction paper taped to her chest. And that was her
boobs with with like pink dots on the peak.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I'm all for showing your your titties like well, or
power to you.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Let's go. I'm not showing my titty I'll show my titties.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
You do that a lot?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Well, do you do that if you like hair.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I don't do that a lot, but I'm all for
showing your titties like cool on you, but when you're.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Out, understand what might happen to you if you do.
Be cautious like I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Not trying to thank you. I'm not I'm not doing
slut shaming and ship. But if you know that you're
at an event with forty thousand people or four hundred
thousand people.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
The majority of our guys and three hundred and fifty
thousand of them are mel and the occasional lesbian.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Of course, but on to turn you, you you got
to realize, like you show your titties, other stuff is
about to happen.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
It could happen.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, so but be find out in the documentary as well,
and also research that there was a lot, a lot
of sexual assault.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah. So one of the things that was brought up
in that uh was a production member. They were like,
oh no, well he was going through the chaos, opened
the door to an RV and there was a guy

(37:53):
highest Vought driving it. Also in that RV he saw
a guy pulling his pants up and no, no, no, no, no,
on the floor.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
No no, he wasn't driving the RVY the guy was
a security so.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
There was another guy. He saw a guy driving the yard.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
A security guy was the first one on site on
the truck. Yes, the truck was driving through the crowd,
and he said, hey, we need to stop this. As
soon as he opened the passenger door, the driver was like, okay, dude,
we're cool. But then he looked back. The girl in
the passenger seat had no pants on.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
She was laying on the floor.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
She was on the on the seat and half on
the floor. And he looked back there in the back
seat the guy was lit like pulling his pants up.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah. This and apparently the girl was probably fourteen, fourteen
or fifteen years old. Yeah, yeah, and she had been raped. Yep,
there was a lot of that happening. There was a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
But when you drug, when you don't have when you
when you don't have the security to attendee ratio that
you should have the security.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
There was a joke.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
The security literally was like again, like I said earlier,
oh my cousin, he's a big gay, or my cousin
wants to work security to get paid.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Haunt Yeah what.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Haunted houses haunt season. Ah, my cousin is like he
could he could do something, or they need a job
for the Haunted House season? No, no, can they can
they like detain someone, can they handle the bullshit that
goes on behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Like whatever? Okay, no you can't.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
But I think security should have been like at maybe
they were thinking that would stop ninety nine was going
to be more like wood Stuck seventy nine.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I think at that point, with the bands that you
had performing and the entertainment that you had performing, like
it should have been more along the lines of like
minimal five to one, one security guard per five persons,
even ten, ten or twenty, because if there is a

(40:28):
group of twenty people, one person's gonna be the ring leader,
one person's gonna be the bullshitter, one person's gonna cause trouble,
and then the one person's gonna cause another person. But
if you can stop that one person, then at least
you can stop that one person. But forty thousand, four hundred,
four hundred thousand. So but we do find out though

(40:51):
on the second day because of the conditions because there
was no food, there was no water, but everything cost money.
So had already spent a couple hundred dollars on tickets.
People had already spent a couple hundred on food and
water on the first day. They didn't have anything left
for the second day. So they were getting really really

(41:14):
upset and they were trying to leave, and everybody was
like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't leave.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
We're going to make this work.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I mean the literally the porter potties were overflowing.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
They had.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Hoses and water from like, oh, you want to wash
your hands, you want to take a shower, but people
were like, hey, I'm going to collect water in the
shower or the hand washing station.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
It was on this.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
By the second day, everything had gone to fucking shit.
So by the third day, only the hardcore of hardcore
showed like stayed because they just they were either hydrating
with alcohol or just too high to fucking care. At
that point, Like the second day was really bad, like

(42:04):
the sun beating down, there was no shade. There was
nothing that you could do to just stop not just
the elements, but the way it was it was going.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
So here's some stuff from Sunday.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Third day, the third day.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Here we go July twenty fifth, Due to continually uh
deteriorating conditions, violence and misconduct escalated further throughout the final day.
But then could you? Could you?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
But they're angry, there's no water, they haven't slept, they're
high on drugs, they're coming off their drug high. Yeah,
like they want a show. They they pay what one
hundred and fifty two hundred bucks can take it. We
don't know what this, I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Know, but here we go.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Like seriously though, yeah, picture you go louder than life,
louder than what life ticket is seven hundred and fifty
dollars for four days. If you were to pay seven
hundred and fifty dollars, you showed up to the show
on day two, they said, Hey, we've ran out of
water or a bottle of water is now fifty dollars?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
All right? So well where was I? Oh? Here we go.
In a twenty twenty one interview, Jewel recalled a feeling
of dread during her performance due to the audience's tension
and the bitterness. She described them as really tired and
very depleted. She her manager, and the road crew immediately
returned to their tour of us and fled the site.

(43:40):
Following her set, fans had begun regularly throwing bottles at
the stage during her set, as well as Creed's earlier
in the day seven, Dust drummer Morgan Rose recalled his
band being escorted by numerous security guards to the stage
for their set as attendance grew increasingly violent following Jewel's performance,

(44:00):
numerous witnesses recalled noticing a growing frequency of fights and
property damage across the facility during Godsmacks performance.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, of course it's testosterone pumping.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
It's hot. It's that well, and I'm guilty of this.
When I get when I'm outside in the heat that long,
I start to get a little cranky.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Well, I mean, you got to realize they are literally
sleeping where they fall. Yeah, there's no water, no shelter,
no sanitary conditions. There's I mean, I if I remember correctly,
one of the one of the food vendors was like,
the only thing we have left is like let us like,

(44:45):
there's no toppings, there's nothing we have this.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I remember one vendor said that as water became more scarce,
they started up charging Oh yeah, they had to.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean at that point, I can I
can understand.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
That it went from like five dollars a bottle they
started charging ten. Yeah, for a bottle of water, a
twenty ounce bottle of water.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I will never forget when Jays came home from that
Waverley Hills show, Yeah, he said it was two dollars
a bottle by mid day when they were running out
of water and they didn't even have a water hose. Well,
they had a water hose to make a mud pit
for the pit. But he said it it was twenty

(45:31):
dollars a bottle before the end of the day and
it was only a one day show.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
That's ridiculous. So this is why I think, I mean
not to condone anyone who likes going to music festivals. Still, yeah,
if you like too, that's fine, you do it. I'm
never gonna fucking go to one. No, I don't care
who's playing. Metallicate did three shows it Louder than Life
on one weekend. I still didn't go. I was gonna

(45:55):
not going to that shit.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Louder than Life is literally within I mean, it's a hike,
but it's within walking distance.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
It's it's two miles from here.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Less than that, it's like a mile and a half.
But but but but still, it would never go. No,
I would never go one. I cannot use a porter Partty. No,
I'm gonna I'm gonna have somebody stand next to me
while I take a piss in the lawn, like you're
gonna have to get over it.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I've been to long weekend outdoor festivals, my ass. I'm
not fucking going No, absolutely not too old for that.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
And I'm not gonna pay seven hundred and fifty dollars
just for a general admission ticket for four days. No
VIP is like fifteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Nope, I'm nothing is worth it.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
But back then, to meybody was like, oh what' stop
ninety nine?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
This is gonna be so awesome.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
They were not prepared, yeah, for the shit show that
was about to happen. Yeah, And if you watch the documentary,
you can watch behind the scenes with like the producers
and everybody, and they're like, what are we gonna do?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
This is bad?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
They have no water, nobody's they're trying to leave. We're
trying to keep people here. We can't keep people here
because they want to leave, Like, what are we gonna do?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Like I would have been pissed if I spent two
hundred and fifty dollars for a three day ticket and
you have no water. Your porter potties are overflowing.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I can't shower.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Well, I wouldn't shower at that point because I'm I'm
a gross weirdo when it comes to being outside.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
But even in that I'm fucking showering, I wouldn't. I
will if shower when I get home. Well, no, me Now,
if I were there, then me, now, I probably once,
I probably would have split after Saturday or gone just
for Saturday. I would have bought it one.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Day pass, I think, honestly though, that's kind of what
most people did.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
But they didn't say that. They just stayed.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
They stayed for Saturday.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I want to buy a Friday pass on leave, but
I'm not fucking leaving, right.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I feel like that's kind of what happened. But they
didn't actually mention that on this document.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
They're not gonna check four hundred thousand tickets and if
they tried, they probably would have got the shit kicked
out of them.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Well, it would be the same thing as buying like
a two day pass. It louder than life, so you
can get in early on Saturday. Yeah, and then you're
you just you just hang out.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Well, there were there were people at Woodstock people were
camping there. There was tents all over. They had a
campground there, I know.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Which is why I'm saying, if anything happens during the weekend,
like I mean, you know me, Yeah, I get home
on Friday, even though I showered Friday morning. Yeah, I'm
not gonna shower until Sunday night because I know I'm
going to rent Fair on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
We've got so much shit going on on Saturday, I'm
not gonna have time to shower. So if if we
were even camping, yeah I don't, I don't shower.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah. Same, Yeah, I'm not gonna no reason to shower
until you get home. You're gonna go take a shower
and then go get sweaty immediately you're sweating exactly. What's
the point of taking a shower when you go camping? Say,
just when you because when you after camping on a weekend,
that shower you nothing better than that shower when you
get home. Oh, when you get out of the shower,
Oh my, it's the best feeling. It might be. It's

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a top three like feeling. Yeah, I'm getting hard thinking
about it.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I put it away.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
There's no oh yeah, no, there's like I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
The I feel like at least they did one thing
right of making like the best bands and the best
performers on Saturday Sunday. They kind of tried to slow
it down and make it toned down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
They tried. They tried miserably.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I mean, there was what four cars set on fire. Yeah,
and the they finally destroyed the soundboard or the sound
sound booth.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
The sounds. Yeah, everything was this is well.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I mean the sound guy literally was on the documentary
and he was like, we were messaging.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
We were like calling over the.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Radio, may day, may day, may day, save us, save.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Us, sheriff's deputies, cops, everybody came out. You're in a
military base. Yeah, call them fuckers, call them a fucking
air strike.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
They should have they should have had the National Guard
there at least.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
So this is more of what happened on Sunday as
the tension came to a head during the concert's final hours,
as Red Hot Chili Peppers performed on the East stage
and Megadeth performed on the West stage. One fan uh
shown a laser pointer at Megadeth frontman Dave Mustain in

(50:31):
the middle of their performance. Prompting him to criticize the
crowd's behavior. A group of activists led by the Anti
gun Violence organization PACKS had distributed candles to those stopping
at their booth during the day, intending them to be
lit for a candlelit vigil for the victims of the
Columbine High School massacre. Again, yes, separate archives.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
But there was a producer or a backstage hand or
something that was like, why are we giving them fire?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
During the Red Hot Chili Peppers performance of Under the Bridge.
This had not been mentioned to or approved by local
firefighter firefighting authorities. The crowd began to light the candles
during the Chili Peppers set, with some of them using
them to start bonfires. Plywood and trash strewn around the
site was used to fuel the fires, which had spread

(51:26):
both to both stages. By the end of the Chili
Peppers and Magadath performances, they.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Were rushing them off the stage.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
After the Red Hot Chili Peppers finished their main set,
the audience was informed about quote a bit of a
problem end quote. An audio tower had caught fire. The
local fire department was called to extinguish it, though they refused.
They refused to call fearing the audience. Shortly after the

(51:55):
tower began burning, a large group of concertgoers climbed the
base of its and the tower then collapsed onto the field.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yep. I mean honestly, if they were like, hey, you're
a volunteer firefighter, you have to show up. Ah, that's
four hundred thousand people that I have to go up against. Yeah,
I mean the paramedic. The paramedic alone. He said he
was done by the first day. He said, I wanted

(52:26):
to go home so badly. He said, so many people
were hurt, there were concussions, there was so much blood.
There was just so much bad going on. Like he
wanted them to end this concert. And there was a
lot of like PA's production assistants behind the scenes who
were just there to help as like stage hands and shit,

(52:49):
and they were like, dude, you gotta stop this. You
don't understand uh. And then there was that one reporter
that jumped in there. He was like, live from the field.
Everything is on fire and people are being molested. Like
he said, I've seen a lot of shit firsthand and
this needed to stop. Yeah, But the big bosses were like, no,

(53:12):
keep this going because they're loving it. They're eating it up,
like we're gonna keep going.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah. Uh So there's one person that I want to
call out for being a fucking dumb ass piece of ship.
I hope everything in the world bad, everything batter know
what happens to this guy. He was one of the producers.
He's one of the guys who put on this. Huh.
His name is John Cherry by Sunday. I don't know
if you remember this from the dot. They did a

(53:42):
press conference. Yeah, he was like, everything is great. Yeah, no,
there's fun. Everybody's having fun. Yeah, this is just these
are just these are just crazy kids having fun. We've
build been kids before they did. People were every fucking day,
people died, people were raped, yeah, well girls young girls.
Yeah were raped, yes, and then some impregnated. I mean

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it was and he's up there everything this is just
kids being stupid.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Kid.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah, they're getting drunk and having a good They're just
this is just a bunch of This is just a
lot of people coming to listen to their favorite band's
blowoff steam and they had a hard one. Dude, where
have you been? Have you not been watching?

Speaker 2 (54:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
But they had a you got to look outside yet, o.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Gumbass Okay, okay, let me put it into your perspective. Okay,
twenty fourteen hant Night, Okay, everything is just fucked yeah,
Ohio Valley Haunts. I should have bleeped that. But the
top thank you, one of the top review teams in

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the nation, is about to come in. According to him, well,
they're about to come into the show. Props are broken,
act are falling out, like there's only your best of
the best still going. Things are going down that you
have no control over, and your final score is gonna

(55:14):
be based on what's happening. You know, You've got uh
Joe Schmoe in the back parking lot throwing up because
he's overheating in his mask. You've got Sally who's having
a reaction to her makeup that we didn't know she
was allergic to. You've got some kid that slipped on

(55:37):
the floor and busted his head and now he's got
partial concussion.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Like you are.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Trying to smile through it, like, oh, this is a
fucking shit show, but I gonna make it seem like
everything is great. Are you gonna tell that reviewer that everything.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Is goddamn shit show. I'm gonna be a brutally honest,
But what if you were to have a forty year
anniversary to make twice as much money. I am brutally
I'm not gonna you would.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
But that's you as a person. Him, he's looking at
those dollars side.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah, he's looking at it. He's this is my paycheck. Yeah,
fuck your paycheck. People. People are dead, yeah, young teenage
girls are.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Now pregnant or having to go through therapy.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
There's hundreds of thousands of people having these severe medical conditions. Yeah,
hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah, all because you want
to paycheck. Yeah, fuck you. I agree, You're you're a
piece of shit. I agree, fuck you. Fuck your paycheck.
I'll hope you go bankrupt. You're an asshole. So the

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last day you are the you are. You are the
scum of the person, scum of the earth.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Who was the last bands on uh the Sunday.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Shown would Red Hot Chili Peppers closed it out? They
were the last band? And of course Flea being flee
I saw Flea's dick. I've seen a lot. I've I've
watched that documentary a lot. I've seen I've seen Fleas
dick a lot. Wait, oh wait, nope, nope, but that's
expected from that, It's expected from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

(57:21):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I don't know that would twenty three to twenty five.
I don't Okay, I don't know who was on Sunday,
But it's fine. Saturday was the main event, which they
they did a good job of putting Saturday together, yes,
but by Sunday everybody was so dehydrated and so fatigued

(57:44):
and so exhausted and trying to find shade because they
didn't think, Hey, there are going to be people here
and we need shade, and they didn't care.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
I was on an open airfield.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Right unless you brought a tent. But in a tent
you still cook.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yeah, tents get fucking hot too.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Cook.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
That's why I hate summertime camping. But I don't know,
just go sit in a sauna.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
They I don't think they were thinking about the attendees.
They were thinking more along the lines of money in.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
My pocket, paycheck. Yeah. Well, I think the the initial
idea is, hey, this is the thirtieth anniversary of Woodstock
sixty nine, let's try to do something cool. They didn't expect.
They they didn't think about, oh, it's gonna be hot
as fuck.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Well, and you got to think about you gotta think about.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
The money or not money, food water. Think about the bands, Well,
the bands had RVs that were air conditioned. No no, no, no, no, no,
no no no.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
What I'm saying is Woodstock in seventy nine, sixty nine
or sixty nine was flower Power? They were soft?

Speaker 1 (58:56):
They were Oh my god, I just remembered something. What
when they closed out Saturday? Yeah, do you remember who
technically closed out Saturday? It was in the documentary they
played on the screens Jimmy Hendrix's yes, uh Jimmy Hendrix.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Pledgably and not pledgeably just fu the uh.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
And the rockets, red clip, a star spangled banner No no, yeah, yes,
his rendition of the star spank.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Everybody was like and they were like throwing ship So
who was it? Was it Red Hot? Was it Red Hot?
Chili Peppers? That said when they were on stage, people
were just like chucking bottles of piss and like anything
that they could throw at them, and they were dodging it.
Like the crowd was literally pissed at this point, like

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unbelievably pissed. Like I can understand that, Like you're hot
you're tired, You're thirsty, thirsty, you're you're just done done.
I've been to one show outdoors and it was only
a couple of hours, and I still was done. I

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couldn't have done a three day festival in the sun
in the huh yes, yeah. And I couldn't have done
three days in the sun, no shade. I I would
have dried up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It was the song Fire by Jimmy Hendricks. They played
his Woodstock performance of that song and mad go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah they got mad, Yep, they got mad. But at
that point would you blame them though?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
You just I'm already off. I'm in a ship man
two hundred and fifty dollars just for a ticket. I'm
in debt from this fucking concert.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Not only but you paid ten dollars for a salad
and two dollars for a bottle of water that normally
would have cost you four dollars. Three dollars for the
salad and fifty cents for the bottle of water. Yeah,
like alcohol started running out, drugs were gone by Sunday.
People were mad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Oh honey, drugs are never gone. Well, well, yeah, I
think where are your Sunday? It's Woodstock? Where are you
bringing the most of I'm bringing only drugs I would bring.
I'll get food and water there. I'm only bringing I'm
bringing shrooms. I'm bringing weed. I'm bringing heroin. I'm bringing acid.
I'm bringing coke. Coke at an outdoor fest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Sign me going God three days.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Cocaine as a hell of a drug. Yeah, I'm gonna
do coke at Woodstock while James Brown is on stage.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
No, give me gimme corn. I'm in that pit. Gimme
corn and James Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
No, It's like my mom and dad did this back
in the day. I'm gonna I'm gonna carry my family's
legacy and do an eight ball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
And you got to realize though, back in sixty nine
it was all about it was all about.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Who can I come inside while I can't see anything
but vibrant Lisa Frank Colors exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
But then in the ninety nine's like, you got to
realize that there's a lot of teenage angs, there's a
lot of anger, there's a lot of hatred because those
kids grew up with boomer parents who kept them from that,
so they just got to experience it for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
All I'm saying is Boomers are the ones who went
to Woodstock sixty nine. Don't talk shit. Then bikers were chill.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
The cool the cool boomers was a lot cool. But well,
my parents weren't part of that anyway. I mean, well
neither of mind, but they I could see your mom
and dad being.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
That I've seen I've seen my ticket collection. She's got
jaf Leppard, Ben Halen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I know your parents would usually be those those boomers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
But that's that's theme song when he drag raced was
Paranoid by Sabbath.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Very nice because I could see my parents those I mean,
I was sheltered literally my entire life.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
So my parents and then I have Uncle Perry, but
oh go shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I have Aunt Sarah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
But it's cool. I have Uncle Perry, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
But anyway, so I feel like would Stock ninety nine,
they were expecting the same thing as to where it's
like peace and love and we're just gonna have sex
with each other and sing songs. Yeah, we're just gonna
We're gonna touch each other and feel each other.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
We're going through the cosmos. While while Fish is on stage,
the fucking Fish, Jennie Joplin, Jimmy hendry. But then you
get you get bands that come in like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
You, and then you got the Jillie Peppers with Please
Dick flopping all of it. Like, you get those type
of bands in the wrong setting. Like if they would
have kept it chill, yeah, I think they would have
been better, but they brought the headlining shows that brought.
I wouldn't say anger because I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I'm not trying to say that the bands that they
brought were like angry. But if you're in that mind
frame at that point of time, then yes, I can
see that you're angry. Is it's like let Biscuit break stuff,
corn shoots and ladders like all of their their their songs. Yeah,

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it's it's causing because you can associate with.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
That, like's wild to go nineties fucking sucked ass. It's
wild to go from Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd one
of the best songs of all time to blind my
Corn or well because only had that one album. He
was newby he was he was a new kid on

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the block. Horn had two albums, well, no Corn had
They've been around five years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Three or four albums Corn three three three three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, self titled came out Yeah, and ninety four.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Follow the Leader and Life is Speachy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah, oh god, so they had those, but what a
great album Life is? Oh god? Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
But you got to realize, though, is that they didn't
target the entertainment to where it would have kept them chill.
They brought the entertainment in to bring out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
The fucking shit. It was wild. It was buck wild. Honestly,
if I could say wrapping this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Up, yeah, would you if you had the chance right
now to go back in time, go back to Wouldstock
ninety nine? Would you go?

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Abs fucking lutely not really? No, knowing what you know
right now, yeah, would you go?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Okay no, no, after no, knowing what I know about it,
I don't want I want no part of that. No,
absolutely not. Oh yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Couldn't bring in it anything they wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Allow you to bring in But I still don't today.
But still, but I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I would Nope, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
I don't want to be a part of that. Ko
I would nope, absolutely nope, Hell no, I would have fun.
I will don't get touched. I won't Okay, No, I
don't you know why why?

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
I'm a big girl thank we'll touch a big girl.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yeah, they will.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
They won't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
You're a girl, No, they won't. Okay, I'm not a
skinny fifty. You might want to watch that documentary again.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Okay, let's watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I want no part of that. I would. I would go.
I would go to Woodstock nine your nine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I absolutely would.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Now if you asked me when I was fourteen, you
want to go, yea, yeah, there's tits. Yeah, I'm a
single teenage boy. I'm learning how to come for the
first time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Almost let's go, forty year old woman right here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I would go. I would go just for the experience.
I would. I want no part of it. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, that is Woodstock ninety nine on our
point of view and going.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I would go. No, I would go have fun. I
would go. Okay, Okay, good luck, Okay, let's go. The
miss is there, but it's not awesome. It doesn't matter.
You could. You can go to Woodstock with the miz. Okay.
I was gonna say me, you're going to be best friends.
You hang with take take miss now, go ahead, meet

(01:07:43):
his past self? Yes, why are you here? Why you
need to leave? You need to go right you need
to leave right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
You needly No, I would. I honestly, I would go
because I'd be like I wouldn't be like all the
oroh stage, I wouldn't be breaking barriers. I wouldn't be crabby.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Let me change. I answer, knowing what I know, I
would go. But once all the ship started happening, I'm
fucking leaving. I wouldn't. I wouldn't leave when the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Ship started happening.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Just stay in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I would let him do it, Yes, exactly, I would
just I'm just I'm just I'm just here. Hey, I'm
just here for a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Don't talk to me. You're for a good time. No way, Yeah,
I want to set the car on fire. Cool, I'm
going that way. I'll go watch from the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I honestly, though, I feel like I would go there
and protect. That would be me like, oh, you're gonna
touch her, pow, I'd punch him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
I would. Okay, you would try, it doesn't matter. You
would try.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Give me some coke. It's cool. I'm gonna holk out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Okay, Okay, it's my favorite. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
No, I would. I would go just for the experience.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I know it sucked. I know there was no bathrooms,
I know there was no water, I know there was
y food.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yes, but again what no, not gonna happen. Okay, So
I would still I would still go just to I would.
I would listen to the bands like, hey, Corn, just
play it would stop ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Or go and reset the time on. Hey this is
gonna happen. Yeah, this is no. They wouldn't listen to
me this gonna happen. They wouldn't listen. You could final destination,
yeah I would, but that would be your that's your
final destination. You see it happening in your head and
you're like, hey, look this is about to have to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
You need to listen to your they'd be like this
crazy bitch, get the fuck out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Letting biscuit. You just don't play break stuff, don't play it,
break stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Just don't amp them up, don't get them going.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Fred, Fred, shut the fuck Fred, shut shut up. But Fred, dude,
shut the fuck up. You're gonna do you see what's
happening out here? Stop it stop stop no bad bad
Can I come hang out like with the with all
your guys's busses. So I'm away from all of this mess?
Can I can I Can I hang out with mister

(01:10:06):
Jonathan Davis? I'm so I would just ha, mister Hatfield,
Can I hang out with you guys? I'm I can't
find my parents. I'm so scared. Jewel, can we be
best friends? You would maybe friends with Jewel? You guys
could do it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
What's that song? You always do it? Carry invited? You
guys could do edit and then you'll get impaled with
cans I need, and then four hundred thousand people will
start throwing beer bottles and condoms at you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
Sweet everywhere there's aids on the stage. Hey a mizz,
let me predict your future.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I would jump is that is that money in the bank?
Former money in the bank winner, two time w W
World Heavyweight Champion, the miz right there is that you miss?
Come up? I would grab him by the face and
be like, he's like what you are? He's not in
he's not in wrestling yet. No.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
I would look him in the face and be like,
you are going to be great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
You're you're going to be best friends with His name
is Ron Killing and he rules.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
I would look in the face and be like, you
are going to be amazing, and me and you are
going to be best friends and we carry on the
best friends.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
And then I get to meet Ron Killings and I
get to your tenure is going to be longer than
the under twos.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
But no, there was I would go. I would, honestly,
I would go have fun at that point, Like I've.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Just when you come home scared and shaking and crying,
don't come to me. No, yeah, I've seen you back
down from bar fights. You I've seen this. No, I
back seen this. I back down from the bar fight
in honor of like the owner. They told you to

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get in there and fight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
I didn't want to cause a fucking scene.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Okay, I didn't want to go to jail. This is
four hundred thousand people. Cool, you're not gonna catch me
at a bar with twenty people there, They're gonna catch me.
It was more like ten five twenty, maybe two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Twenty, including the four bartenders.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
The Jay and Oh are recounting that retarded DJ that
they had that one. Yeah, like yes, they would have
my back. He worked there for sixteen hours.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Sixteen hours, But like I, I didn't want to. I
did not want to go to jail that night because
I knew I was gonna beat the fuck out of her.
I was gonna beat the fuck out of her. I
was gonna go to jail because I landed the first punch.
So nokay, No I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
But the next the next time I get I am
able to get into a bar fight. Okay, it's game on. Okay,
game on, next bar fight, next bar fight, okay, game on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, I'm going to every bar with you now because
put up her shut up. Oh, I'm gonna put up
and they'll be like they fight her boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
No, I'm not that girl.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Okay, fine, you don't want a tag team match, that's
on you there, No, we can text. No, you want
a handicap match.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Hold on, I didn't say that. I don't want you
to fight her boyfriend. I only want you to fight
her boyfriend, husband, fiance, whatever the fuck. I only want
you to partner. Yeah, partner what. I want you to
fight them if they decide to if they touch.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Me, oh, I'm gonna fight to them. Shit, game on,
let's go on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
If I'm fighting a bitch. If I'm fighting a bitch,
I know, punk bitch, I know punk bitch. But if
I'm fighting a bitch and her boyfriend comes in to
break us up and touches me. I want you to
jump in and beat the fuck out of him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Okay, all right, let's go fight your battles for you.
You aren't fighting shit, all right, Jesus Christ. All right,
that's gonna do it for this episode. Guys, thank you
so much for listening. Be sure to check out everything
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This has been Woodstock nineteen ninety nine. We will see
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Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
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