September 29, 2025 • 80 mins
Taproom of Terror 2025 is officially underway!!! This week, we're kicking it off with McKamey Manor, America's Torture House. We'll share some testimonies from people that have survived thier experiece in the torture house, as well as some of the henious acts that have taken place in McKamey.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
What's up, ladies and germs. Welcome to a brand new
episode of the Greatest Taproom Podcast. I am one of
your co hosts, the trash Can Tabby and with me
as always, living with him is torture, Mike.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh, it was your decision, not mine, so ha ha
ha jokes on you that though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Sorry, I was trying to take a drink before we
hit record. Oh no, you're fine, and now I have
to drink this delicious vodka and root beer.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Is it? Go for it, baby.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's not as dangerous as it was earlier. It's a
little bit. You could taste the vodka, but goddamn, that
is so good.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't taste any of the vodka at all. I
just taste pure root beer.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, there's about three shots in there, really huh. Yeah,
those are for later. Those are going to keep this
buzz going. No, I've had enough to cut the edge,
you know, to cut the edge to take me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You think you know me? You think you know me? Yeah,
shout out Matt Mish. I figured that one.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, I've had just enough to take the edge off,
and now the rest of it is to see where
we go.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well, let's do that. I'm excited. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I said I was going to mention it tonight on
this episode, but I'd have to be really drunk to
say anything, and I'm not really drunk yet. I was
just going to say, if anyone listening that understands the
card that you get at most places where you can punch,
and after the tenth one of sandwich, drink, coffee, whatever,
(02:28):
you get the eleventh one free.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Right any sandwich shop ever anywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Or cake cookie whatever. I don't know because I don't
participate in that. But the tenth one, I guess, is free,
and we don't know if it's actually a husband or chlamydia. Okay,
inside joke, hopefully they listen.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Okay, you had to be there.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh I was there.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm just like, yes, I had.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
To cross my legs. I was almost sing my pants
laughing so hard.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah. Well, we talked about eating ass at work today.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hey, we talked about chlamydia. No, I don't, no, because
you know what comes out this No? Well that yes, yeah,
not eating I don't care who it is. I wouldn't
eat my own ass. I Nope, that is a no
go for me.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No star Shine Moon Sun negative Ghostrider.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
There we go Yep, that's a no show. Star shine. Yep,
none of that made sense.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What you said? You're welcome, put that down. You're done? Nope, nope.
All right, Well, before.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We dive into this week's episode, what do you say
we knocked out the shot out?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I I don't know how I feel about this because
of the shot out and the shot and what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But okay, you're just scared about the shot. I don't
shut out. It is great.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm excited for this one. A new friend, Yes, we
love friends.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
This week's shoutout goes to Cold Case Kansas, a social
detective podcast. Join Mary Anne, retired criminologist with twenty years
of experience to investigate over two hundred unsolved crimes across
the state of Kansas and bordering states. Awesome show. I
(04:17):
listened to a few episodes today. They did one on
Oh gosh, what was it?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh, listen, it is so many you forgot?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yes, I placed it because I wanted to save it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, Cold Case Kansas.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh the Canines of nine to eleven. Oh No, I
couldn't he dog hero Dogs.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I couldn't. I couldn't. Sorry, guys, awesome show. I'm a
huge fan of true crime.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So obviously I'm gonna gonna I'm gonna seek out every
true crime podcast that I can because I love it
so much.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You gotta get all of the sides of the story, yeah,
and find out everybody's opinions and maybe one clicks. Yeah,
not every opinion is.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Right as long as the bad guy gets caught in
the end.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, as long as yeah, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
All right, So this shoutout goes to Cold Case Kansas.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Shout out cheers, listen on all your favorite podcast platforms
that we know of.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Jesus fuck. That actually was a lot better than that tequila.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I liked it. I like tequila. Also, it's come up.
Tequila's coming back.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Ew. I think I've drank way too much in my
early twenties.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, but that's a chase it with a Natty Ice.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
The banana liqueur that's been sitting up here for three
years now. I do believe.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I know that we got it for uh mixed the
last time we started doing the shoutouts, which started when
we had that other guy on the show. When we
did the shoutouts. Yeah, so that's been almost three years.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's been for a while.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The shoutouts. Yeah no, but this bottle in particular, we've
had this bottle for will be three years, like in
a couple of weeks or yeah, oh no, it was
right around the Cincinnati time of August that freaking years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Holy shit, No, that was me.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It was oh yeah, Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, that was May. That was me.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
August, August.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Anniversary and record and uh all right, yeah, I'm getting there.
Is that banana?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, well, hug a couple of beers before I came out.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I chugged a beer. I've had two shots of tequila
that stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So you probably won't touch that beer for the rest
of the episode.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And I was a white girl music again, I know
I heard it. That's how I was playing it through here.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm falling, oh rusick, No, that was either Yeah, you
were listening to this either.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, while you were downstairs? Now I heard it. Oh
you were? You changed the channel when you came up here,
I was. I turned on seither. Oh gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What white girl music were you listening to?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You this time? Uh? Britney spears.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I literally was about to say, oh, maybe not that song?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Oh Stronger strong.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Good and yes today and before you bust a vein
in your forehead.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
On this week's.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
A Mile Away, I'm trying to get the mood up
because we're.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
About to rip song.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah no this, Yeah, I'm so excited about this one
because it's not a haunted house.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So on this week's episode, we are discussing probably the
most notorious not haunted house house, uh, but torture house
of all time. They uh it was established in Tennessee
where San Diego, San Diego, California.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Because we heard about this one through Jason when he
worked at Psychomania.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
This week, we are of course talking about Fuck you
mccameye Manor.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So Mcamie Manor is an American torture torture house house
attraction in which survival horror style events are enacted. Founder
in San Diego by.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Found Diego. Foundered in San Diego, San Diego.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Sorry, guys, my southern showing right.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Let me tell you where I seed that place.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Sat it, I sat it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's like when you say I seen I seen this before,
it's I saw I saw it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I saw this, I saw that, Not I seen that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
No, it's not seen it's seint No.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm being like forro I know I saw, I saw that.
I've seen that you're not from Kentucky, So shut up. No.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I took Founded in San Diego by Russ McCamey, the
attraction dates back to nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It opened in eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
In twenty fourteen, Russ attempted to move to Illinois, and
then later in San Diego was shut down in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I thought it shut down more recently than that hold
on Oh out there, it did.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yep, it moved because he kind of went under the
radar for a couple of years. At twenty seventeen, he
successfully relocated to Summertown, Tennessee, with a separate location opening
in Huntsville, Alabama that same year. The house operates year round,
offering visitors tours that in some iterations can last up
(09:46):
to thirty six hours and in other iterations up to
ten hours. So all of this stuff that I'm about
to read to you is from Wikipedia and the Guardian.
So U do we want to get into how we
were introduced to this first? Or do you want me
to continue through the history. How do you want to
(10:06):
do this?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Uh? I want to I think uh I know I
was introduced to it we're going through introductions.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, where did I hear about God? Dan? Do you
remember where you heard about it? I? Did you do?
Or you did they do? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I remember it was the last year of Psychomania because
it was the big hullabaloo.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Maybe that's right. Maybe it was our.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Last year at Psychomania Theater of Terror. Somebody had brought
it up that this is when like social media was
really starting.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
To pop off. Yeah, but Facebook was still the big dog,
right because.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Of course my Space was already gone by that point.
So for those of you listening at this point, our
last year at Psychomania was twenty eleven. Yeah, but this
is when like Facebook and Twitter x, Instagram, like all
of the big social media platforms.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Were starting to come about. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I remember we were outside maybe or it might have
been an after like not an after party, but an
after hangout and Jason said, oh mcamey manor somebody brought
it up and we were like, what's that and he
was like, it's just a shit ass haunt.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yes, I remember we were sitting at it was one
of those nights where he uh he brought us that
free pizza hut shout out.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, it was the night that he had to work
and he.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
He showed up late.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
He apologized for showing up late with old pizza and boons.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Farm lots of well enough for like us.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, everybody in the Chainsaw Rejects had a bottle of it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's what I'm That's what I'm meant. He brought up
for Theater four. That's it. Shout out, shout out Theater four.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Theater four. I kind of want to get a tattoo
Theater four. Yeah, just in honor commemoration, Like.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh gosh, could get a tato right here of your
nurse doors.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's a story for another time, by the way.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, we'll do we'll do.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, No, yeah we should because I just thought about
the weirdo that got Nurse Betty tattooed on his arm,
the one that died.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, we'll come back to that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, So we're I remember sitting on the back dock
as much as I can remember, because there was a
lot of alcohol that year. It well yeah, it was
a lot of yeah, but there's also been a lot
of alcohol since then. But I do remember Jason saying
something about I'm a Kamy manner and we're like, what's
that and then I do believe it was one of
(12:36):
the chrises that ran up. I don't know if it
was that one or the other one tweetled or tweetled
dumb no name. Yeah, but one of them was like,
oh my god, there's a haunted house to where they
they waterboard you and they they put their thumb in
your button, like talking about all this stuff. Yeah, and
we're like, what are you talking about? How is that
(12:57):
a haunted house? Like right, and it's chase it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Jason had to like break it down, like here's what
they do.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Cheers to Jason Evans shout out to our mentor in
the haunt industry, and he told us that if you
have to touch someone at a haunted house, haunted attraction,
mind you, and.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You suck at your job, then you can't do your job.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
But if I can scare you from arms link the
way and make you cower like a little bitch, I
did my job. Yeah and more. But he said that
he pretty much broke it down. He was like, yeah,
he was awful in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He got he got run out of San Diego, didn't he.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yes, because he put a bad name on quotes. Quotes guys,
thrown up quotes haunted houses. Yeah, he was not a
haunted house, and that kind of spiraled so less mccainey
would show up. And I remember this because I went
to trans World almost every year that I was in
the haunt industry, and he was always there, never buying pneumatics,
(14:03):
never buying anything. He was just there to cause shit
and stir the pot.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Did we didn't We run into him.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Ran into Russ at one point in time.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yes, I remember our first trip there. We ran into him,
but we didn't know who he was. Ten two, yeah,
twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
We went from Memphis to or No, we went from
Saint Louis to Memphis. Yeah, because Jace hitched a ride
home with Irish.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah because yeah, because we.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Ride home with Irish because we were heading to Memphis
for something.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Just to go hang, yeah, for hang and so because
I'd never been because that's where yeah, and that's where
I'm from.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So we did run into him, actually multiple times, because
this is when trans World was still kind of small. Yeah,
but he uh, Russ became he as a dick. If
you haven't realized that, we'll get more into that later on. Uh,
but I do remember everybody, so that year was like
(15:00):
the buzz of there's a new haunted attraction in California.
They can touch you. They can do whatever they want
to you. Now, mind you with everybody out here.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
In the can you tell her to stop shaking the table?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
With everyone out here in the Midwest. Sorry, she's eating
her foot. We don't know why, but everybody out here
in the Midwest, uh, we we just know haunted houses
is you know, scary corn mazes, old abandoned warehouses like
bah boo scary. And we never knew anything about literally
(15:40):
like choking people out and physically physically touching them because
we were always taught. And you remember, if anyone ever
touches you, you yell a hey Rube, Yeah, hey Rube,
Hey Roobe.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's an old it is an old Carney thing. If
you have we're in trouble, shout out Phil Granger. Oh
that fucking bastard, you're fired.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I fucking hate that.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Go to and get to work him so much.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And I hate him so much.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Miss dead, I do, miss so he is he's immortal?
Oh god, you think Keith Richards is immortal? No?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh no, this meant was a Chicago police officer turned Carney.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
No he Carney police officer. Oh was it? I think so? Oh,
still he's caught.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So we were taught that if someone touches you, it's
a hey rube. If you touch someone, kind of let
it go back off whatever, just just let him go.
It was an accident at that point. Yeah, never put
your hands on a guest coming through your haunted house,
haunted attraction, I should say, but this one full blown,
full blown hands on contact like around here. We never
(16:50):
knew about that, like some touching, like touching.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But that's it hotel.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
No, not until Stitch took over, that's right, not until
Stitch took over.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
No, no, shout out.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Also Devil's Addict. But that was that's special. They hold
a special.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You have to Yeah, you have to know that was
a special night. Or no, that was us.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That was only one night at seventh Street. You had
to pay an upgrade.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, more it was us that they gave it to.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
If we show up, Hey, you guys want the us,
want the full thing, or like you know, we do.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It was I remember we went up to the ticket
with it attic and it was Louis. Yeah, shout out Louis.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh the best fucking Jackal in the thirteen Ghost.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It was his first year when he retired from acting.
He was, you, guys, do you guys want the full
contact or like Louis, you know what we want.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
He goes, all right, yeah, I got it, Like we
didn't pay.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
He was Jason. Jason says, I have to ask, I
have to ask.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Knew that we were coming yeah, and he literally I
remember him banging on the door, telling.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
By the way, if you need a DJ, hit up,
we needed I want to find his contact and like
that dude dubbed yeah a genre of music.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
He's good at it.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I remember him beating on the door and he opened
the door and told Todd.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
What a stick? Yeah, his dreads and body masks were
the same.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Really yeah, he cut him off, but I remember.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Him no, shout out, Louis. No.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But he pounded on the door and then opened the
door and told Todd that we were coming through. Wasn't
that the year I was pregnant? And Todd spit in
my face and I was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
No, that that was the year before.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh this was when we had to go back to the.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's right, that was the year the year you were pregnant.
Todd made me sit in the chair. Yeah, and gave
me a lap dance.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But he also gave me a kiss. The devil guys.
Todd was the.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And and and a stand up comment local stand up funny.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Great.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
We got to watch him film his special we did
in a abandoned restaurant and he forgot to hit records,
so we got to watch his victual taping twice. It
was great, it was it was actually funny. Or the
second time around it really was. Knew the McDonald's bit,
I remember because it was about his daughter. Oh yeah,
(19:13):
I'm not but that's that's his bit. I'm not going
to say it, but it was had me dead, all right.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So back to man I need to get the boot
button on the soundboard. Ready, you do?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You really should hold on? We should do it again
once you get it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You ready, hold on? I don't think we have a
boot button? What too far? Go ahead, just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So after a while here in our area and amongst
the rest of the United States, mccamie manor became a
very dirty word. It was nasty, like if you're a
true haunted house employee.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I like that. There we go, blue button.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But you if you were a true haunter and you understood.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Which MCCAMEI manter. There we go. That works.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But if you were a true haunter and you you
knew the ins and outs, and you knew that you
weren't allowed to touch people, and you knew that his shit
was fucking shit, you were totally against it. So around
this time of year that you guys are listening is
when the rumor mills starts spreading and everybody starts bringing
(20:38):
mcameie manner back up, which is why we put this.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
On the show.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I think I think the move to Tennessee was what
really like put that place in the news.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Okay, so the problem not the problem. The thing is
is Ohio has one hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And the most in the country.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yes, Ohio has like one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Check out scare Factor reviews, shout out, shout out, and
Tyler love you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
But all righty one.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Hundred and twenty I think or so haunted attractions. Now
that's like corn mazes, haunted houses, I mean everything.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't remember how many Kentucky has I think they
have like fifty, I don't know, forty nine to fifty.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Something like that. But the Midwest checkout scare factor.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
From like Michigan all the way down to like Alabama
and Georgia, tons tons of haunted attractions. So when mcamie
manor moved to Tennessee, that that put a lemon in
everybody's mouth. You fucking that puts shit in people's mouth.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Do not check out Ohio Valley haunts. They're not a
well there.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
They are only specific to certain haunts by the way
they are.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, I really need to put the boot button in
the applause button next to each other so I don't
have to keep finding it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Are you guys ready to hear about?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
They're?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Uh? Pre like how how you have to like get
ready for mccamie manner?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Are you ready answer? Please? Yeah? Okay, I believe I
speak on behalf of everyone. Yes, read all right.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So to participate, guests have to sign a liability waiver
that includes explicit details of how the attendee may subject
it may be subjected to various forms of physical, sexual,
and psychological torture. In its early years, guests were not
permitted to leave the experience without the staff's permission.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
So if you wanna, if you want to like bow
out before your thirty six hours are.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Up, but the staff has to agree to it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, they're obviously they obviously would say now no because
they're having these freaks are having.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
To much fun.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Sign up for this.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
If you're affiliated with Mcamie Manner in any way, shape
or form, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yes, we're not permitted to leave the experience without the
SaaS permission, but since then safe words have been implemented,
granting the guests to leave at any time if they
so wish.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
However, some past visitors have claimed to being held captive
long after they've called out the agreed upon safe.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Phrase, like oh so if you say the safe word,
they're like, no.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You're good, you can keep going.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You don't know what you want. This is what you want,
So there's I know what you want.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
There's a couple of specials out there of like YouTube, Netflix,
Hulu and stuff like documentaries, Yeah, documentaries about it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I want to watch something.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, we we probably should have before this episode.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I need to be in a better mood before I
watch them because I will be pissed.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I need to be sober when I watch them.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't I don't want to because there was a
gentleman that signed up for it. And I remember this
very vividly when he when mccameye moved to Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, how dare you ruin my home? It was son
of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
He was a marine who done, like, if I'm not mistaken,
two or three tours in a back, gone through so
much shit. He made it the entire way and they said,
oh at the very end when they couldn't torture him anymore,
they said, oh, you said the safe word and got
rid of him. So he didn't win the money.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Alleged money.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Alleged money, Yeah, apparently you were you if you survived it,
you get like twenty grand, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But that was a lie.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Brought in a bag of dog food or a case
of wet dog food.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I will say this one nice thing about Russ McCamy.
What he did was like it was to help. It
was his dogs.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yep, fuck you, I take it back.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Then it was his own dogs he was trying to feed.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You are a hold one you didn't because it's YouTube
now you are such a hit.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, it was his own dogs. He asked for wet food, specifically.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I hope your dogs got gut rot. Oh trick.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, his dogs do not deserve that his dogs have.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
No, that's fair. I'll give him that our dogs choose
to be our dogs. That's fair. But it would make
him sad, and I want him to I.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Don't want to hurt them dogs.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So my Caamie Manner punch him in the face.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh God, I swear to God if I ever see
him on the street.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
By the way, The trick and gut right as cows
only thing.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Mcamie Manner has attracted significant controversy, criticism meet US media
scrutiny as the owner. Russ mccamee claims to have claims
to have a military background of twenty three years in
the Navy, and uses hypnosis and mind control to make
participants believe what he wants them to about what's happening.
He also has a background in theater, having been an
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actor in plays and movies, as well as having been
a singer and a wedding DJ. Many of those close
to him have also made allegations and statements against his character.
His ex wife, Holly Schilido, once described him as a
dangerous predator, while the child of mccamee manor actor stated
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that his dad enjoys torturing people. Yeah, And then in
July twenty twenty four, Russ mccamee was arrested on charges
of attempted second degree murder, rape, and domestic assault. Charges
then were dropped in September.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
How he runs a orchr house. Lock him the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I feel like he has a friend who has legal
legalities and is a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
He's bros with a great eternity.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's not just that, but he knows his way around
the law.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Is his lawyer the guy that got oj off? Probably
that's Johnny Cochrane.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I don't know is he dead or alive. He's alive still.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But no, I think Russ mccamie can find loopholes and
how he if you sign something that says any bodily
harm that happens to you while in here.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Your signature's on a paper that says, yeah, I'm down for.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
This, I'm down for whatever you want to give me.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yep. Safe.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
The tour lasts from eight to ten hours, but no
guest has ever reached the end, which at this point
that is tacchnically on mcamie manor it's true because they haven't.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So wait, he bumped in California, was at thirty six.
When he moved to Tennessee. He knocked it down to
ten to twelve.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
No, it's been thirty six. Well it was thirty six
hours the whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
That's why he was in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes, so he knocked it down, Yes, but he also
ramped it up.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, okay, he made it worse.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
If I if I got to cut it down to
this time, Oh, you're getting and I'm gonna yeah, you're
getting hard.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I'm gonna add too.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
There's literally videos right now if you go on YouTube
and search it. There is a a vlogger who vlogged
it and was able to get some of it, Like
when she came out of it, she didn't have just
her hair shape, She had her hair pulled out in chunks.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
She had her teeth pulled. I know one video I
saw they were force feeding this one guy. It was
a guy they were doing it too, his own shit.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Not not that I didn't know. I didn't see that one.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Oh you didn't know about that one.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I knew about it. I just hadn't seen it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But because well on YouTube, that's why they dumbed it down.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
It was like live insects.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Like like handfuls of spiders not but I know they didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
They had obviously non.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Venomous because yeah, yeah, they don't want to die right now,
everyone's yeah, now, everybody's going to jail.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
As long as you don't die, you're good.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But it was like worms, cockroaches, spiders, yep, I know.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I saw one video.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
They put a guy's hand in like a jar of
fire ants oh's and left it there was until he
passed out, and then while he was passed out, they
fucked with him even more.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
They kept going.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
There was a nineteen year old girl who wanted to
try this retard. She literally walked in the door and
was raped the entire time. Like yes, they fucked her
every hole. They came inside her every hole possible.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Twelve hour of leaky submarine.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't know how many hours, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
But I mean you know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Anything, yeah, terrible nineteen years old. I do believe if
I'm not mistaken, if there's a specific uh, they also
from rumor when all of this started, like uh, the
words started happening about Mcamie Manner around here. They also
said that I don't know if it's in here because
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I haven't made it that far.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They would take uh uh felons who were released from prison.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Oh, that's fine and give them a jay a job.
Uh that's not that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's what they would do anyone who was really released
from prison.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Do you want a job?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, so let's see job you you were in
jail for fucking kids. Yeah, you want to work here?
And you want to rape some girls?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You want a job? You want to rape some people? Oh,
you're on your.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You just got released from manslaughter because you are found
not guilty. Do you want to come here?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
God?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
So, so Peto's got a job.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Anybody sex offenders got a job.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
There's a lot of people. Because they signed a lifetime NDA,
they cannot disclose of what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Oh, you've been sober for ten years. Here, let me
force feed you this beer. What the fuck? God, damn it,
this it's in me. I looks in this. I'm done.
I'm mad. Now hold on, no, I'm I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm I'm Oh, we're just getting started.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So or there's the tip of the sword.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh god, this might be a long episode.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Anyway, so they this might be the first episode where
I'm not like in a good mood the whole time.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's okay, I'm mad, But we're we're getting.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It out there. We're spreading awareness.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Awareness for those of you who think it's a haunted
house and a haunted attraction and you want to try it.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Listen to me.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You're on YouTube watching this, Listen to me. Don't fucking go.
If you go, you.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Are a retard. No, don't don't do it. Fucking go.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Don't give him the fucking publicity.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Shame him, give him negative publicity. Give him publicity, but
make sure it's negative.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He has a one star on uh that's Google reviews.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
That's too much.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
People make fun of it. It's it's pretty much.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's too much. Fuck you, Russ mccameey, Fuck you, you're a
piece of shit. Fuck you and the people that work
for you.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I was gonna say there, because of a lot of
the actors, not actors, but staff, I should say they
had signed a lifetime NDA. No matter what happens, you
cannot speak a fucking.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Word, even though now well everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Everybody knows that you still can't, even though you were
in a boo hole. Everybody knows even though you were
just say you were in a boo hoole.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Oh is this for the actors?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, anybody who was a part it's a loosely used
tern here.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Anybody who was a part of mccamie manor when they
left employed. Yes, when they left their employment.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You're not allowed to talk about what you did, though, can't.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You have to take everything to the grave.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
That's because if you say something, he goes to prison
and he doesn't want to huh.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I also saw something I can't remember where it was,
but they shoved two young ladies, probably early twenties. They
shoved them into a hide, a bed, a couch after
they did whatever they wanted to go. Yeah, they put
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both of them. They put them in a pull out
and closed it on top of them and then sat
on them for hours.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I used to that with my cousins.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
But this is after they did what they did to them.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, yeah I did. I did it to them for
like thirty seconds. No, they did. I didn't want to
get in trouble because all right.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So, although there have been reports by past guests of
safe words being ignored, the house operates year round, and
there is a self reported waiting list of over twenty
seven hundred people, twenty seven thousand people.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
That should not adn't exist.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, but then you have those stupid idiots that we
all know in the haunt industry that thinks, oh, I
have a big deal.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh I'm a bad ass. No you're not. You're not
a bad No. I have a question. People know about
what goes on inside the walls.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Of mckinnia manor they think they can handle it.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
We should only use the word retarded for those people.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, No, we should use the word fucking.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Retarded, fucking retarded. Yes, yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Many people in our many years of haunting.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I know actual retarded people that would say no to this?
And I'm in a second, Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah yeah, I would hard No, I mean hard no.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But how many people myself included?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
How many?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
That's what sometimes I'm retarded?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But how many people in the haunt industry do we know,
or did know, because we've been out for so long,
said that they would one be the first in line
from a Camie manner. Listen, I can name five right now.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I can give you ten, and I'm gonna look at
you dead in your face and I hope you're I
hope you're either watching this on all available on all
podcast platforms, or on our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com
slashcres step in pod.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Uh No, you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I know you say you can because you think girls
are looking and they're gonna be like, oh, he is
a badass.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I'm wanna suck his deck. No, you can't. You're a bitch.
I know you personally. I've worked with you in a
haunted house.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You can't handle three hours of extreme heat.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Some of you I watched you cry. Others of you
I fired you because you're too irresponsible.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
You're an idiot. Truth true, you're not tough.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I've watched a lot of you cry because somebody said
a nasty thing. You got hurt because of words. You
can't handle, mccamee mannor you're a bitch. You just don't
have the balls to admit it. If you know who
you are.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
The newest iteration of the tour, a ten hour experience
called Desolation.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Felt really good for me to say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'm glad you did.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I know, I feel I feel really good.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
If I could just say the names, I could die happy, right, now, oh,
I could drop that smile of my face.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
That was a fuck you.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I know, I know at least three of.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Them in Clarksville, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
There's five right now I can name right off the
top of my head.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
We have to say. We could repeat this like say
them yup? Uh huh, yup, yup. That keep going. There's more.
If you saw their face, I.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Hope you didn't see any of.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
That, right, So if you saw their face you oh, yeah,
you too. Yeah that one for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Cast of twenty ten slash eleven huh fuck you.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
So the house operates year round. The newest iteration of
the tour ten hour experience, called Desolation, originally offered a
prize of twenty grand for a successful.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Compat Great Song.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
By the way, McCamey deducted five hundred dollars from the
prize for every failed challenge or use of profanity.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Ow my frickin' head hurts.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Is that No, frickin' Nope, doesn't doesn't matter. Oh my butt,
he's trying to get that out.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
However, due to McCamey believing that people were going through
with the experience for the wrong reasons, the twenty grand
prize is no longer offered. During the tour, employees of
the Manor may physically oh.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Shit, let's it run on the soundboard? Yep? Nice.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
So during the tour, employees of the Manor may physically
assault patrons, waterboard them, force them to eat and drink
unknown substances, have them bound and gagged, and engaged in
other forms of physical and psychological torture.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Didn't you say there was one guy that they made
him take a shit and then fed him his own shit.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, while he was chained, while he was in a cage,
like one of those medieval time cages.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, it was the like it was the dominant mysterio
in a cage match with Livin Rhea.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
He was dominant.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, No, it was one of those Renaissance medieval time case.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh, the circle, the circle, the one that Casey Jones
that not passed Casey Jones was in a Ninja Turtles three.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yep, he shout out last week.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
May also be drugged during their experience.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
What kind of drugs are we talking? Hold on? Maybe
I might be down now it might be are we
doing PCP? Okay, not the good drugs?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Oh Man journalist Tara West has reported that the communities
where the tour is staged. Residents questioned how it remains
legal even with waivers.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
They make him do whippets when they walk into the
free door. Not even whippets. Whippets make you brain dead
for like ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, but it's not even that their brain did.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Just signing up. If you yeah, if you say, if
you're down for this, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
So the list of requirements go through the experience is
extensive and not completing or fulfilling any of the requirements
will stop participants from being allowed to participate. The requirements
include completing a sports physical, getting a doctor's note saying
you are physically and mentally sound, passing a background check,
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showing proof of medical insurance, passing a drug test the
day of, as well as being at least eighteen with
eighteen twenty years requiring apparent approval. If you're under twenty
one eighteen eighteen to twenty one, you have to have
a parental consent.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
This is not okay, and there is none of this
is okay.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Hold that there is also a forty page waiver. Who
reads forty pages of waiver? I know when we got
the house, When we got the house, I just signed.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I don't know what the papers on our house even say.
I don't either, couldn't I just were they said?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Sign? I sign.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So participants must also comply with the rules, which include
no running, touching of props or actors, and using foul
language or pushing.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Wait, you can't touch, but they can. Yep, Well that's
fucking hypocrisy. Right there, A volunteer hypocritizer Right there.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
A volunteer guided testified that the forty page wave ver
signed by participants listed such possible risks as having teeth extracted,
being tattooed, and having fingernails removed.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So what kind of tattoos can you like? So I
want the ghost?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think if I'm not mistaken, I do believe that
they they probably draw like dicks on you or right,
I'm gay on your forehead. Somebody got a swastika on
their forehead. I'm pretty sure. Okay, come on, that's I'm
pretty I'm I'm pretty sure. I've seen that video.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
That's like the tenth worst tattoo And I'm kidding, that's
the that's the worst tattoo anybody could get.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Ever, yep.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Participant participants must also watch a two hour long video
that includes videos of past participants, as well as being
screened personally by Russ McCamey. If the participant does not
meet his expectations aka you're not pretty enough and personal requirements,
then they will not be allowed to continue on with
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the experience. In its early years, it was also required
that dog food or funds for animal where welfare be
used as payment to participate. In recent years, a monetary
donation is recommended, but not mandatory.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I know one person that's not pretty enough.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Me.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
No, it definitely isn't you.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Who huh.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, she'd walk in the front or they'd be like,
just go okay.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
The exitters over there just had that.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
La ting to participant Laura Hurt Brotherton on a visit
to the Manor in twenty sixteen, she repeatedly used her
safe word for several minutes before employees stopped torturing her.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Doesn't say what her safeboard was.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
She was later treated at a hospital for extensive injuries.
I think this is the one who had all but
four teeth pulled. Yeah, she had her back bowlers like
she only had two on the top, and it was
like here and here and here. She looked like Philo
also had her hair not shaved, but ripped out.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Of her head. Funny scenario.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
You do go to mcameie Manor, but you know, and
you can back it up. You can fuck up everybody here.
You just going to Mcamie Manor start beating the shit
out of everyone.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Touch them or you don't get anything, and they'll probably
drag you out. Okay, you signed a waiver. You're going
to jail for assault.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I honestly, hey, babe, worth it worth I know, like
and I know, and I can and like like say,
I go in there and I can back this up.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I can beat the fuck out of all these people.
I know I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like, Yeah, sit John Jones UFC World Heavyweight Champion, one
of the greatest fighters of all time. I'll go in,
all right, you just beat the dog shit he come out,
all right, Roster's not twenty grand had it? Well, there's
there's if you read it. No, okay, fine, No.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
There was a guy who actually completed the whole thing
and Russ said, you fucked up. He said, no, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I saw that video.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
It was uh some vlogger or yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It's like a three part video on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I watched, said absolutely not. I never did anything against
the rules. Nope, give me my money, he said, but
you did something small, something very small.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And there was proof, Russ, there's proof that that guy. No,
he didn't and he was.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
An actual Navy seal.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah that did this. Yeah, Yeah, you're you're a seal.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Mccamee. If you're a Navy seal. Mcamie manner is like, oh,
let's green, let's have it.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Maene made it through.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Let's have a tickle fight.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, I'm a seal. Mcamie manner is a tickle fight
compared to what I had.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, so, mccamie manner. Summertown, Tennessee, has been the subject
of many complaints in laws. Lawrence County County Commissioner Scott
Frank described an incident where deputies were called to the
property after a neighbor saw a woman dragged screaming from
a van as part of the experience. Staged or not,
this is simply something that none of us want to
be near any d d DA DA simply something that none
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of us want.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Anywhere near us.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
The District Attorney DA Brent Cooper said the program was
legal because the people subjected themselves to it voluntarily?
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Were it in Tennessee? Was it?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
It's that top page right there, Summerville, Summer Summerfield because
the people subg though participants could withdraw their consent at
any time, according to Summertown. In July of twenty seventeen,
Frank puts a community alert on his Facebook in opposition
to mcamie Manor, which had almost six hundred comments, with
most being opposed to the activity in Summertown Summertown. Nashville
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scene journalist Megan Selling has questioned many of the manners. Claims,
here's the thing. There's no twenty thousand dollars, she wrote,
saying that nobody has completed the tour by design. No
one made it to the supposed Huntsville portion of the show.
Mcamie knows what it will break people.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
At Kamy Manor, thirty minutes south of Nashville. It's three
and a half hours from here.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
He can simply pull out what is needed to shut
down the show when it is ready to end.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, straight shot directly south YEP.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
On October thirty first, twenty twenty three, the Tennessee A
Attorney General reporter Jonathan Schmetskermetti notified mcamee Manor that it
was under investigation over concerns about its business practices whether
they might violate the state's consumer protection laws. Specific concerns
include allegations that withdraw consent is not honored, lack of
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access to the waiver, and inability for contestants to win
the purpose prize money. A tweet was made stating that
the letter was sent raising these concerns about mccamee's business practices.
In response to the official McKenney Manor account simply responded,
hater's gonna hate I remember that. A few months after
the investigation, mcamee filed a thirty two page lawsuit against
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the Tennessee Attorney General, claiming the request violated his first, fourth, fifth,
and fourteenth Amendment rights. The lawsuit was ultimately dropped in August,
yet mccamee's attorneys have asked the courts to reconsider. Mccamee
later filed a lawsuit in April against Hulu and one
of the participants included in their documentary.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
While Hulu That's It.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
While Hulu was dismissed from the lawsuit, it is still
ongoing against participants who was interviewed media coverage. Mccamie Manner
was featured extensively in the twenty seventeen documentary film Haunters
The Art of the Scare on Netflix the original series
Dark Tourist. It also is the subject of the twenty
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twenty three Hulu documentary Monsters Inside a.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Minute Haunters The Art of the Scare. No, I'm thinking
of the Monsters documentary. Rich teach Out, Yes, shout out,
Rich cheat Out's the man.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I love Rich cheat Out. But he's out now.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh my god. All right, rip to that haunt.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
I have never had a boss that in the haunt industry.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Big Rip Asylum, Hunted screen Park, the greatest haunt in
Louisville in the area.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yes, the number one. It was. It was one of
my favorites. It was my.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It was my and I worked for a Slenderman. Oh,
slender Man was the best.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
It was the best.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I worked for a competitor Haunt, well, we both did.
But in Darkness Falls, Oh my god, I see, Oh
my god, Zombie City. I have never alien attack.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I have never been more immersed in a home.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
They made you feel a part of the show.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
That's that. That's the that's the takeaway.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
That's oh my god. I always left asylum look like, dude,
this place fucking rules.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I remember when Rich bought half of Seventh Street. Yeah,
and he walked into the makeup room in the first
couple of a couple of nights that we were open,
and he looked at me and he said. I can't
remember what he said, but I was so stressed out
and I turned around doing after like I'm in the
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middle of a makeup and I said.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
He was a motivator.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I said, fuck off. If you don't trust me at
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
He said, okay, let me finish. Okay, fuck off.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
If you don't trust me, then fucking fire me. And
he grabbed my hand and he kissed my hand and
he said, as you wish, and turned around and walked away.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Teach how was the dog? He had that dog in him.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
He knew he knows how.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
The greatest haunt owner of all time in this area,
out of every haunt owner in the Ohio.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Valley area, A.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Rich Jason, Yeah, Rich Rich teach Out was the fucking man.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
He's the goat love Pyton Manning.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
He's yeah, he's John Cena, Peyton Manning, He's the King.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I got three more, four more pages, okay. A YouTuber
by the name of breckfast bin was All had also
made a series of YouTube videos surrounding the manor, including
videos exposing the secrets of mcamee manner. YouTube Trilogies Media
have also made a documentary style video on the topic,
bringing victims of mccamey's alleged abuse to narrate their experience.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Oh, Phil Granger is in that conversation of greatest Haunt
owners of all time?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
It seemed like an innocent bit of fun. In the
early two thousands, Russ McCamey and his then wife Carol
went on to TV explaining that they were spending thirty
thousand dollars to make Halloween at their home bigger and
better than anyone else. Fans cued around the block of
the quiet San Diego suburb to experience fake blood, spooky props,
teenage actors giving them jump scares. Until that is, things
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got much much more darker.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
By twenty twenty twelve, there it is twenty twenty twelve.
It was first year at seventh Street. Not psychomania twenty
twenty twelve or twenty twelve twenty Yeah, twenty twelve, twenty Yeah,
how do you say that year twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Twenty eleven, twenty twelve, not twenty twenty twelve. Yep, sorry,
that's in the future.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
I'm hold on participants. By twenty twelve, participants were being
water boarded, chained up in boxes, and almost buried alive
after mcamee decided to make Mcamie manor more extreme kid
Free Zone. I was seeing people come out shaking uncontrollably.
One guy, it looked like his nose was broken. Another
burst of blood vessel in his eye. It was full
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of blood, said Mercedes An, a certified lifeguard with basic
first aid training who was there to deal with the fallout.
So that would be like, oh, okay, So we watched
fifteen seasons of R.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
The guilt I would feel if that was that.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
So we watched fifteen seasons of R and now we're
halfway over, halfway through the resident. Yeah, technically we're kind
of doctors and we were thrown into an er right
now with what we know, which is nothing.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
TV doctors, yes, Doctor Green, all of our favorite TV
doctors are dead.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
People would have psychotic breakdowns on the show. Only time
they would stop the tour. Then they would bring me
into calm them down. Here's the kicker, Mercedes. An was
fifteen years old. We didn't get paid or anything, explains Anne,
who began volunteering at the Manor at thirteen after beating
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McKenny at a community barbecue back when Russ and Carroll
were like the cool aunt and uncle. Over the following years,
mccamee would not take a single payment for entering the Manor. Instead,
participants were required to bring dog food to give charity.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah cool, that's all loose leaves now, because I thought
I did, honestly up until recent It's first, I didn't
know that those and then.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Whatever extra or what he doesn't want.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Would you imagine being his dog and they're like, dude,
we can't eat this.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
No, the food he doesn't want he will give, but
he keeps what he wants.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
My dogs don't like this brand, so I'll give it
to a shelter. Yep, God damn.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Everyone I spoke to seemed to have an eye opening tale,
all of which seemed too wild to be true, although
when we put into a detailed list of them all
to mccamee, he chose not to comment. He gave me
threats of being buried alive. I got lowered into a
well ten foot in the ground.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Did it put the lotion on the skin or did
it get the hose? Again?
Speaker 2 (54:09):
I couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
No. You know what actually fixes that?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
If you get lowered into a well, just request a
copy of Auto Trader.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Joe Dirt. That was all. No, I'll come on, I
get it. I'm trying to. I'm really trying to lighten
the mood.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Here hues as this.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Oh hell, look at this. This is sixty eight Chevy
chev Chavelle. He's got twin turbo. That's badass.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
According to mccamie, the manor had a twenty four thousand
person waiting list and there was a twenty grand reward
for anyone able to complete it live.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
No one ever has Signs.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Were required to sign a waiver up to forty pages long,
stating you can be subject to drowning, electoral shocks and
exposure to poisonous animals, be slap, shoved, restrained, and that
may result in broken bones, dislocation of limbs, crush limbs,
and blackouts. If no one was getting paid, why were
people agreeing to volunteer? Chris Smith saw mcamee on the
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twenty seventeen documentaries Haunters Out of the Scare. They became
friends after Smith got in touch, offering to help mcamey
with some graphic design work. They began speaking on the
phone every day in informed friendship. As Smith says, mcamee
was a goof. I didn't really take him seriously. But
in twenty eighteen, Smith, who had already gone through the
manner once and cope, decided to go through a second time.
He gave me threats of being buried alive. I got
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lowered into a well ten foot into the ground. He
was made to unlock paddocks via combination codes while water
was filling the well. I can't do that, I tell him,
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
For the night.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
I'm tired, Smith says, but mccamee persuaded him to do
one more thing. Smith says he ended up being dragged
into a metal truth behind troth behind a truck. Russ
had told me I'm always gonna know when to stop,
don't worry about it. While in the truugh, Smith says,
mccamee started shoveling dirt on me over and over again.
I started waving my hand while saying I quit. But
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Smith says mccamee didn't stop immediately, that in fact, would
continue the tour as long as he's having fun. Their
friendship soon broke down. Mccamee seemed to have network of
people like Smith willing to help him for nothing, but
in twenty nineteen, mark the beginning of.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
A shift can punch Me, Kick Me?
Speaker 2 (56:24):
There were growing concerns across social media about the manor,
especially on Reddit, debates cropped up whether mccameie was running
on Redroom. Ooh, redroom, you can punch me, kick me,
pull my hair?
Speaker 3 (56:37):
I am aok.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Be instabbed, biting and scratching are on the table.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
You can use fire. These are the ground rules. Is
there anything off limits? Damn man, you got something really
sick you want to do? Huh?
Speaker 2 (56:50):
They s yep, sorry, yeah, live streaming videos of people
being abused or tortured to sell on the dark web.
That's what red room is. Red Room is you get
to watch people being tortured. You get to watch live
on the dark web.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
All right, let me just say this. I'm not one
to kink shame.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh this is total kink shame.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
But but shame on you imagine walking into became Manor
and they're like, Oh, we're gonna We're gonna focus suit up.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
The whole time. The guy's like, I'm into all of this.
I'm gonna come for the next twelve hours. I'm rock hard.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
I'm coming. And then all the all the quote unquote, well,
let's call them employees.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
I'm not going to use the word actors because now
the employees are like, Okay, this is getting too much.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
This guy is not taking this the entire time. He
walks in, what do we do? And Russ is like,
put his dick off jokes on you. This guy wants
to be trans anyway.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Fuck, we don't know how did you know what? Let's
give this guy twenty grand?
Speaker 2 (58:08):
So did you know that an online petition titled shutdown
mccameye Manor received one thousand and nine hold line one
hundred and ninety two, seven hundred and forty four thousand signatures.
And I know that we were one of those.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
Two of those. I think we were like number seven eight.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Well, I'm gonna say, as soon as I heard about it,
I signed it.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
I think I signed under like all the emails I
have same, I signed under the show's email.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Since then, there have been eight petitions to do just that.
Smith is part of the global movement to close it.
Mccamie was no stranger to documenting his life and posting
it online. In two thousand and nine, he launched his
YouTube channel mccameye Manner Presents. By twenty nineteen, the things
in his participants had to endure were brandished across the
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Internet as part of the deal of signing up. In
one video, a man has his eyes duct taped and
is seemingly covered in oil and a blood like substance.
An actor is shaving his head and holding a hammer
over his teeth. Ah remember this.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
One, Wait this one.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
He smashed his teeth in with a hammer. Nope, yep,
I'm out. What's there's no?
Speaker 2 (59:28):
No, he held the ham he can can'k' cank Oh.
Speaker 3 (59:32):
I thought youven like smile and show your teeth and
like fraack.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
No, he opened his mouth and was hitting his teeth
with a hammer. Oh, like capping or like oh yeah,
now he was breaking his teeth.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
God fuck it, Oh my god, I'm gonna be sick.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
The same man appears to have blood pouring from his
mouth while he lays unconscious on the ground. So let's
go downstairs. Babe, let me take that hammer that you
have in your tool box.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
No, this is my birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I will I will hit your teeth.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Oh baby, you nasty bitch. I love you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Gabriella Hardiman nineteenth stop was one of those whose videos
was posted on a YouTube page. I felt a little
weird with the cameras, she admits. Having seen mccamie on TV,
she figured that most of the controversial acts were part
of the theater. She signed up via the manor's official
Facebook group and quickly received a call that said, there's
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a cancelation. You have to come tomorrow. This is the
only chance. Hardiman was chained inside of a freezer box,
had a tarantula put on her face, had a panic
attack mid experience. I remember being in a straight jacket,
lying in water and having it poured over my face.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
She recalls, Oh was the waterboarding.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yep, one of the times someone called the cops because
they we were outside screaming. The man had so many
problems in the community that the haunt ended up. It's
not a haunt, it's a torture house. Ended up moving
to Tennessee. I hate the fact that they call it
a haunt. It is not a fucking haunt. It's a
goddamn torture house.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Be funny moving to Tennessee in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
If you went through McKinney Manor and they're like, oh,
bring out the rats, and you're like, oh, look.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
At the babes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yes, give me out of that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I'm gonna I'm gonna put rats down as my biggest fear.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
I'm not a fan of spiders, but you bring out
the tarantula, It's like, oh, it's an eight legged puppy.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yes, look at your woodle begy. I would put the
reverse of my fear.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
And they're looking like this isn't no white hold on,
You're supposed to be scared.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Oh. Gabriella posted a video against him in twenty seventeen.
It was on YouTube for two days before I took
it down because the hate I was getting from Russ
and the community was insane. It's why I waited so
long talk about it, and why in my interviews my
voice is shaking because I'm scared of how people are
going to perceive it. She feels shame about speaking out
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because she signed a waiver consenting in taking part. What
makes the waiver even more controversial is that it may
not even legally stand up. I've read a lot of
contracts over the past twenty years. I've never seen anything
like this, says Thomas Greer, a lawyer from Tennessee. While
determining whether every detail in people's experiences was legal is
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extremely complicated, Greer is clear on one thing. It was
legal for thirteen year old Mercedes and to sign a
contract thirteen the lifeguard who was their medic? Did you
not hear me twenty minutes ago?
Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
I heard the fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
She was fifteen, but she'd been working there for two
years as a medic. She was just lifeguard.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Oh, she started when she was thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
She was just lifeguard certified. She was at the YMCA
watching children float.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
By twenty twenty three, complaints about the manner was too
prominent to ignore. Hulu released a documentary Monsters, Inside America's
most extreme Haunted House, presenting first hand accounts of the
manner and the trauma participants had experienced. Mccamee filed a
lawsuit alleging invasion of privacy in October twenty twenty three,
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a YouTuber Reckless Man made it his mission to complete
the manner, only to discover that mccamee was now only
operating a physical boot camp in his front garden instead.
After hearing testimonies from participants, Ben Schneider went viral trying
to shut down the manner. He was regularly posting exposees
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of mccamey's behavior, passing on footage of ex employees had
given him to the police. Unrelated to the manner of
personal altercation had led mccamey's arrest in July of twenty
twenty four for domestic violence, attempted murder and rape of
the next girlfriend. In September, the charges against him were dropped.
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If the Facebook posts on the group Keep mccameie Manor
Open is anything to go by, there are still fans
of mccamee Manor despite the controversy. Fuck you for supporting
mccamee manor. Does anyone know how to get signed up
for mccameie Manor, asked a fan in early October of
twenty twenty four. I want a shot at the challenge.
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The manner's closure, it seems, is still very much up
for debate. That was The Guardian.
Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Maybe boom.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Nice got airtime. This one's the Guardian. Be warned, mccamie
Manor is not your standard boo haunted house. This is
an audience participation event in which you will live your
own horror movie. This is rough, intense and truly frightening experience.
You must be in great health to participate. Last year's
Home It's not a Haunt, It's a torture House was
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absolutely nothing compared to the new mccamie man Or. New
for twenty twenty three, mcamie Manner presents The Descent. The
Descent This is what is on their website right now,
the next evolution of interactive survival horror theater theatre. Understand
that each tour would be different based upon your personal
fears and can be last up to six hours. Each
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guest will be mentally and physically challenged until you reach
your personal breaking point. Do not wear expensive clothing. This
is again on their website. Okay, do not wear expensive clothing.
Do not bring anything that cannot get wet. If anyone
becomes rowdy, pushing, shoving, running, they will immediately be removed.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
No questions.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Ask anyone that has been drinking alcohol or taking drugs
will not be allowed into the haunt and will be
asked to leave the property. At check in, you will
be required to show your ID the way we're process
for descent will last two hours. Waiver process is two
fucking hours. Fuck that. One performance only per week, year round.
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Specific requirements must be met in order to take the tour.
Think about the average ten to twenty minute haunt or
a theme park at Halloween and what you've experienced. Was
it really interactive and scary at the New mccamie manor
you experienced thrills that you have never seen before. You
will be tested to you a very cool If things
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become too much, you can always quit, which means he
does not have to give you shit. But he never
gave anybody shit who finished. There were at least three
who have finished. Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit. You
are not a haunted house. You are not a haunted attraction.
You are a torture porn bullshit it place. Fuck you,
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Russ McCamey, Jesus, God, damn Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Fuck you. Please fuck your mother, fuck your wife. Fuck you.
Fuck you. If you or anyone a right, your mom's sick.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Who listens to or who listens, who goes to haunted attractions,
who works at haunted attractions, Who is a supporter of
mccamei manner because they think they could survive.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Fuck that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Don't give him the publicity.
Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Shut him down.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Share this with your friends. Share this with your friends
who think mccamee Manor is a haunted house.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
A hundred house, it's a holded house. It's not I
thought I thought mckamey Manor got shut down.
Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I maybe I don't know. It might still be up.
Just stop giving them publicity. This is bullshit. There is
There is nothing good about this place. Russ McCamey. Fucking
jack's off watching people fucking almost die. Okay, you think
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you can last in cool?
Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Good on you.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Why don't you go join the military. You want to die,
you want to get close to death. Go be a
Navy seal, Go be a Marie.
Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
According to owner Rust mccameey, fuck you, the controversial haunted
attraction McKinney Manor is still open and operating despite ongoing
legal challenges and investigations.
Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
He doesn't give a fuck. Following the twenty twenty three
Hulu documentary Monster Inside the Tennessee Attorney General launch an
investigation into the manors practices. Fuck you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Recent development in July breaking news Ladies twenty twenty four,
owner Rest McKinney was arrested and faced charges. I've got
that against legal murder, rape, and domestic assault.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I've already done that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
The charges are dropped in September.
Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I already did that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Uh. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
I don't know if they're still open, but if they are,
stop supporting them.
Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Jesus fuck. Yes, it is still open and it now
has at one point nine. So again, if you're a haunter.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Openunter, share it with your haunter friends, because this is
not a haunt Jesus fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Not just a haunter, just people in general, everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
You're free to this. I have a big dick. I
could totally do this.
Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
No, No, you can't. Do you want? You like your teeth?
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Do you like your eyes? Do you like your butthole
being able to hold in a fart? If not, you
ain't gonna have no butt all to hold in a fart.
Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
My Kamie Manor is still uh, it is open right now.
Twenty four seven three sixty five.
Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Well, whenever Russ says I'm gonna open.
Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
No, it's there's hours of operation online. Fuck it's open.
Why people are going through it right now as we speak,
it's happening. It's a fucking torture. It is not okay.
Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Please please again. If anything that you take away from
this fucking episodisode, it is not a haunted house. It
is not a haunted attraction. It is a torture porn house.
It's a trap house.
Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I wouldn't even call it torture porn. It is a
it's a torture house.
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
It's a torture house. But no, no, Russ, Russ gets off.
I remember us being a trans world and there were
friends yeah who said, oh no, he gets off watching
the videos.
Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
After people go through everything.
Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Watches the video back and just fucking wax it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Everything about this establishment, the people who work there, the owner.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
You suck.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
You're not a fucking human being.
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
You're everyone. If you're affiliated with this, you're a piece
of ship.
Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Go fucking eat a curb.
Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
You. You deserve bad things to happen. You suck.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Karma is gonna get you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Yeah, we'll get you. Like how how inhumane to me?
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
And said, hey, I'll offer you ten grand I'll offer
you X amount of money to come and work it.
Fuck you, no money.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Is You're not You're not edgy, you're not cool. You suck.
You're hurting people again.
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
That's why he hires felons, That's why he hires teenagers.
That's why he hires people. Oh, let your imagination run
wild and do whatever you want to them.
Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
No, this is not okay. Nothing about mccami manor iska.
There is nothing. No, it's horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yes, it is the absolute fucking worst. Honestly, I I
feel like I am a badass and I can walk
through any fucking haunt and I could, I could call
it out. But this is my problem. My bodily autonomy
when I enter mccamie manner is not my own anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Is what they want it to be? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
They tell they do to me what I don't. I
have no say so.
Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
There isn't a dollar amount the amount that could get
me to go to do this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Nope, I don't support any of this. I don't like pain.
Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I am I am. I am phobic certain pain. I
am McCamey, I'm a McCamey phobe.
Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
I like that mccamyo, name it that episode named McCamey.
Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
It man.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Already advertised it as m manner.
Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
That's fine, fuck mccamie manor.
Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
If I have to say, be phobic to mccamei manner.
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Also again, stop it, stop it, shut it down, Shut
it the fuck down. If your friends say, oh you
do no, stop it.
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
There has to be some kind of legal loophole.
Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
There isn't because he has he has he.
Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
He there something.
Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Nope, they have tried, They have tried, then torched the place.
Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
They can't. They can't.
Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
It's private property, private property. You can't shoo drones.
Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Blow it up.
Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Nope, there's nothing he he he's got, He's got inside
people that nobody knows about. That's that's making this happen.
Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I hate this, Yeah, I hate like. I hate this.
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
The Kami Manor puts a bad taste in into the
actual haunted attraction world.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
The only way to shut it down is like you,
you have a brain in your fucking head.
Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
There's a brain inside that use it a lot of haunts, don't.
You're not a badass. You can't.
Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Oh I could talk, No, you can't. Well here again,
if you're okay with this. There is something mentally wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
With you, go see a therapist or a psychologist.
Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
That's even better. Just don't fucking go now here.
Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Here's my problem, the end of this in discussion. Will
will end it here. Mccamie manor is putting bad, bad, bad,
labeling bad tastes for actual haunted attractions. So we have
(01:14:25):
a will used to be touch haunts where you you
could either upgrade and pay more to get touched. There's
the Haunted Hotel, which stems from San Diego, California.
Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Robert Bruce shout out, shout out team Michael J. Fox.
Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
But there there's owners from San Diego that had the
Haunted Hotel. But when a certain person who rhymes with
itch bought it, he made it all a touch haunt.
So you walked through no matter who you are, you
got touched.
Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
His name rhymes with bitch.
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
But you you got touched, You got you were interacted physically.
There's a difference between a touch haunt and a torture haunt.
Like some of the things like fear Fair, they did
it great. Fear Fair was extravagance on their touching.
Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
They would grab your shirt and then let or grab
you and then let you go right, or.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
They would bite you and then let go.
Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
They had a two second role.
Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
But I feel like they did. Yes, but you also
had to be a seasoned actor. Yeah, you couldn't miss
a night. Doesn't miss it. You couldn't miss a night for.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Three years, three seasons going into your fourth.
Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
It's fine, right, which is fucking great.
Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Because the owner wanted to know that you can trust you,
so to be safe.
Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
You you get to that that horn holes it's no no,
because Russ mccamie is putting mccamee manor as something that
is literally like everybody's going into your haunt here, whether
it's Devil's Attic, Field of Screams, Black Orchard, Haunted Hotel.
(01:16:20):
We are not mcamee manner. If you want that type
of intensity, go to mcamee manor. Good luck, good luck
to you. I hope you keep all your teeth, I
hope you keep your hair, I hope you keep your eyesight,
I hope you keep your tight butt hole at that point,
I hope you never have to eat shit. But here it's.
Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
It's it's tame.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Fuck you McCamey Manor for ruining haunted houses in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Because California, and no, not just the Midwest in general,
because California ran them.
Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Ount in Tennessee is not strong enough to get them
ran out because he's found loopholes. Fuck you, goddamn fuck
Russ McCamy.
Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Just don't go.
Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Just stop going, stop supporting it. Don't go see someone
say something.
Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Shut it down, tackle them.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Put our podcast link, Put this podcast link down and say, hey,
you want to listen to a podcast who actually talks
about it and how shitty it is.
Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Put this link down. Russ mccameey, go fuck yourself on
that note.
Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
We should have ended it at that, but okay.
Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
No we are on that note. We'll start over. Fuck you,
Reuss McCamy. On that note.
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Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Oh my god, the veil is fucking thinning city. Can
you feel the veil? Oh? I feel the veil. It's
fucking thinness Falk right now. The veil thinning as fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
More on that later, bah mead, Ladies and gentlemen. Tune
in next week when we discuss zombies.
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Zombie, followed by nineteen ninety six's the og found footage
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Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Ye. Thank you guys for listening so much.
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Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
I fucking hate you, especially Big Nick.
Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
I love you Big Nick. Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Bye. I was waiting for you. Bye to T
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
What's up, ladies and germs. Welcome to a brand new
episode of the Greatest Taproom Podcast. I am one of
your co hosts, the trash Can Tabby and with me
as always, living with him is torture, Mike.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh, it was your decision, not mine, so ha ha
ha jokes on you that though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Sorry, I was trying to take a drink before we
hit record. Oh no, you're fine, and now I have
to drink this delicious vodka and root beer.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Is it? Go for it, baby.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's not as dangerous as it was earlier. It's a
little bit. You could taste the vodka, but goddamn, that
is so good.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't taste any of the vodka at all. I
just taste pure root beer.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, there's about three shots in there, really huh. Yeah,
those are for later. Those are going to keep this
buzz going. No, I've had enough to cut the edge,
you know, to cut the edge to take me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You think you know me? You think you know me? Yeah,
shout out Matt Mish. I figured that one.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, I've had just enough to take the edge off,
and now the rest of it is to see where
we go.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well, let's do that. I'm excited. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I said I was going to mention it tonight on
this episode, but I'd have to be really drunk to
say anything, and I'm not really drunk yet. I was
just going to say, if anyone listening that understands the
card that you get at most places where you can punch,
and after the tenth one of sandwich, drink, coffee, whatever,
(02:28):
you get the eleventh one free.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Right any sandwich shop ever anywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Or cake cookie whatever. I don't know because I don't
participate in that. But the tenth one, I guess, is free,
and we don't know if it's actually a husband or chlamydia. Okay,
inside joke, hopefully they listen.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Okay, you had to be there.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh I was there.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm just like, yes, I had.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
To cross my legs. I was almost sing my pants
laughing so hard.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah. Well, we talked about eating ass at work today.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hey, we talked about chlamydia. No, I don't, no, because
you know what comes out this No? Well that yes, yeah,
not eating I don't care who it is. I wouldn't
eat my own ass. I Nope, that is a no
go for me.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No star Shine Moon Sun negative Ghostrider.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
There we go Yep, that's a no show. Star shine. Yep,
none of that made sense.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What you said? You're welcome, put that down. You're done? Nope, nope.
All right, Well, before.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We dive into this week's episode, what do you say
we knocked out the shot out?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I I don't know how I feel about this because
of the shot out and the shot and what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But okay, you're just scared about the shot. I don't
shut out. It is great.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm excited for this one. A new friend, Yes, we
love friends.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
This week's shoutout goes to Cold Case Kansas, a social
detective podcast. Join Mary Anne, retired criminologist with twenty years
of experience to investigate over two hundred unsolved crimes across
the state of Kansas and bordering states. Awesome show. I
(04:17):
listened to a few episodes today. They did one on
Oh gosh, what was it?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh, listen, it is so many you forgot?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yes, I placed it because I wanted to save it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, Cold Case Kansas.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh the Canines of nine to eleven. Oh No, I
couldn't he dog hero Dogs.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I couldn't. I couldn't. Sorry, guys, awesome show. I'm a
huge fan of true crime.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So obviously I'm gonna gonna I'm gonna seek out every
true crime podcast that I can because I love it
so much.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You gotta get all of the sides of the story, yeah,
and find out everybody's opinions and maybe one clicks. Yeah,
not every opinion is.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Right as long as the bad guy gets caught in
the end.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, as long as yeah, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
All right, So this shoutout goes to Cold Case Kansas.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Shout out cheers, listen on all your favorite podcast platforms
that we know of.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Jesus fuck. That actually was a lot better than that tequila.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I liked it. I like tequila. Also, it's come up.
Tequila's coming back.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Ew. I think I've drank way too much in my
early twenties.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, but that's a chase it with a Natty Ice.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
The banana liqueur that's been sitting up here for three
years now. I do believe.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I know that we got it for uh mixed the
last time we started doing the shoutouts, which started when
we had that other guy on the show. When we
did the shoutouts. Yeah, so that's been almost three years.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's been for a while.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The shoutouts. Yeah no, but this bottle in particular, we've
had this bottle for will be three years, like in
a couple of weeks or yeah, oh no, it was
right around the Cincinnati time of August that freaking years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Holy shit, No, that was me.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It was oh yeah, Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, that was May. That was me.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
August, August.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Anniversary and record and uh all right, yeah, I'm getting there.
Is that banana?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, well, hug a couple of beers before I came out.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I chugged a beer. I've had two shots of tequila
that stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So you probably won't touch that beer for the rest
of the episode.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And I was a white girl music again, I know
I heard it. That's how I was playing it through here.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm falling, oh rusick, No, that was either Yeah, you
were listening to this either.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, while you were downstairs? Now I heard it. Oh
you were? You changed the channel when you came up here,
I was. I turned on seither. Oh gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What white girl music were you listening to?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You this time? Uh? Britney spears.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I literally was about to say, oh, maybe not that song?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Oh Stronger strong.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Good and yes today and before you bust a vein
in your forehead.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
On this week's.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
A Mile Away, I'm trying to get the mood up
because we're.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
About to rip song.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah no this, Yeah, I'm so excited about this one
because it's not a haunted house.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So on this week's episode, we are discussing probably the
most notorious not haunted house house, uh, but torture house
of all time. They uh it was established in Tennessee
where San Diego, San Diego, California.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Because we heard about this one through Jason when he
worked at Psychomania.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
This week, we are of course talking about Fuck you
mccameye Manor.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So Mcamie Manor is an American torture torture house house
attraction in which survival horror style events are enacted. Founder
in San Diego by.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Found Diego. Foundered in San Diego, San Diego.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Sorry, guys, my southern showing right.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Let me tell you where I seed that place.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Sat it, I sat it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's like when you say I seen I seen this before,
it's I saw I saw it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I saw this, I saw that, Not I seen that.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
No, it's not seen it's seint No.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm being like forro I know I saw, I saw that.
I've seen that you're not from Kentucky, So shut up. No.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I took Founded in San Diego by Russ McCamey, the
attraction dates back to nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It opened in eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
In twenty fourteen, Russ attempted to move to Illinois, and
then later in San Diego was shut down in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I thought it shut down more recently than that hold
on Oh out there, it did.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yep, it moved because he kind of went under the
radar for a couple of years. At twenty seventeen, he
successfully relocated to Summertown, Tennessee, with a separate location opening
in Huntsville, Alabama that same year. The house operates year round,
offering visitors tours that in some iterations can last up
(09:46):
to thirty six hours and in other iterations up to
ten hours. So all of this stuff that I'm about
to read to you is from Wikipedia and the Guardian.
So U do we want to get into how we
were introduced to this first? Or do you want me
to continue through the history. How do you want to
(10:06):
do this?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Uh? I want to I think uh I know I
was introduced to it we're going through introductions.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, where did I hear about God? Dan? Do you
remember where you heard about it? I? Did you do?
Or you did they do? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I remember it was the last year of Psychomania because
it was the big hullabaloo.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Maybe that's right. Maybe it was our.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Last year at Psychomania Theater of Terror. Somebody had brought
it up that this is when like social media was
really starting.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
To pop off. Yeah, but Facebook was still the big dog,
right because.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Of course my Space was already gone by that point.
So for those of you listening at this point, our
last year at Psychomania was twenty eleven. Yeah, but this
is when like Facebook and Twitter x, Instagram, like all
of the big social media platforms.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Were starting to come about. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I remember we were outside maybe or it might have
been an after like not an after party, but an
after hangout and Jason said, oh mcamey manor somebody brought
it up and we were like, what's that and he
was like, it's just a shit ass haunt.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yes, I remember we were sitting at it was one
of those nights where he uh he brought us that
free pizza hut shout out.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, it was the night that he had to work
and he.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
He showed up late.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
He apologized for showing up late with old pizza and boons.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Farm lots of well enough for like us.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, everybody in the Chainsaw Rejects had a bottle of it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's what I'm That's what I'm meant. He brought up
for Theater four. That's it. Shout out, shout out Theater four.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Theater four. I kind of want to get a tattoo
Theater four. Yeah, just in honor commemoration, Like.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh gosh, could get a tato right here of your
nurse doors.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's a story for another time, by the way.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, we'll do we'll do.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No, No, yeah we should because I just thought about
the weirdo that got Nurse Betty tattooed on his arm,
the one that died.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, we'll come back to that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, So we're I remember sitting on the back dock
as much as I can remember, because there was a
lot of alcohol that year. It well yeah, it was
a lot of yeah, but there's also been a lot
of alcohol since then. But I do remember Jason saying
something about I'm a Kamy manner and we're like, what's
that and then I do believe it was one of
(12:36):
the chrises that ran up. I don't know if it
was that one or the other one tweetled or tweetled
dumb no name. Yeah, but one of them was like,
oh my god, there's a haunted house to where they
they waterboard you and they they put their thumb in
your button, like talking about all this stuff. Yeah, and
we're like, what are you talking about? How is that
(12:57):
a haunted house? Like right, and it's chase it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Jason had to like break it down, like here's what
they do.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Cheers to Jason Evans shout out to our mentor in
the haunt industry, and he told us that if you
have to touch someone at a haunted house, haunted attraction,
mind you, and.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You suck at your job, then you can't do your job.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
But if I can scare you from arms link the
way and make you cower like a little bitch, I
did my job. Yeah and more. But he said that
he pretty much broke it down. He was like, yeah,
he was awful in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He got he got run out of San Diego, didn't he.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yes, because he put a bad name on quotes. Quotes guys,
thrown up quotes haunted houses. Yeah, he was not a
haunted house, and that kind of spiraled so less mccainey
would show up. And I remember this because I went
to trans World almost every year that I was in
the haunt industry, and he was always there, never buying pneumatics,
(14:03):
never buying anything. He was just there to cause shit
and stir the pot.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Did we didn't We run into him.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Ran into Russ at one point in time.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yes, I remember our first trip there. We ran into him,
but we didn't know who he was. Ten two, yeah,
twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
We went from Memphis to or No, we went from
Saint Louis to Memphis. Yeah, because Jace hitched a ride
home with Irish.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah because yeah, because we.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Ride home with Irish because we were heading to Memphis
for something.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Just to go hang, yeah, for hang and so because
I'd never been because that's where yeah, and that's where
I'm from.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So we did run into him, actually multiple times, because
this is when trans World was still kind of small. Yeah,
but he uh, Russ became he as a dick. If
you haven't realized that, we'll get more into that later on. Uh,
but I do remember everybody, so that year was like
(15:00):
the buzz of there's a new haunted attraction in California.
They can touch you. They can do whatever they want
to you. Now, mind you with everybody out here.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
In the can you tell her to stop shaking the table?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
With everyone out here in the Midwest. Sorry, she's eating
her foot. We don't know why, but everybody out here
in the Midwest, uh, we we just know haunted houses
is you know, scary corn mazes, old abandoned warehouses like
bah boo scary. And we never knew anything about literally
(15:40):
like choking people out and physically physically touching them because
we were always taught. And you remember, if anyone ever
touches you, you yell a hey Rube, Yeah, hey Rube,
Hey Roobe.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's an old it is an old Carney thing. If
you have we're in trouble, shout out Phil Granger. Oh
that fucking bastard, you're fired.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I fucking hate that.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Go to and get to work him so much.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And I hate him so much.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Miss dead, I do, miss so he is he's immortal?
Oh god, you think Keith Richards is immortal? No?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh no, this meant was a Chicago police officer turned Carney.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
No he Carney police officer. Oh was it? I think so? Oh,
still he's caught.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So we were taught that if someone touches you, it's
a hey rube. If you touch someone, kind of let
it go back off whatever, just just let him go.
It was an accident at that point. Yeah, never put
your hands on a guest coming through your haunted house,
haunted attraction, I should say, but this one full blown,
full blown hands on contact like around here. We never
(16:50):
knew about that, like some touching, like touching.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But that's it hotel.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
No, not until Stitch took over, that's right, not until
Stitch took over.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
No, no, shout out.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Also Devil's Addict. But that was that's special. They hold
a special.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You have to Yeah, you have to know that was
a special night. Or no, that was us.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That was only one night at seventh Street. You had
to pay an upgrade.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, more it was us that they gave it to.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
If we show up, Hey, you guys want the us,
want the full thing, or like you know, we do.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It was I remember we went up to the ticket
with it attic and it was Louis. Yeah, shout out Louis.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh the best fucking Jackal in the thirteen Ghost.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It was his first year when he retired from acting.
He was, you, guys, do you guys want the full
contact or like Louis, you know what we want.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
He goes, all right, yeah, I got it, Like we
didn't pay.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
He was Jason. Jason says, I have to ask, I
have to ask.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Knew that we were coming yeah, and he literally I
remember him banging on the door, telling.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
By the way, if you need a DJ, hit up,
we needed I want to find his contact and like
that dude dubbed yeah a genre of music.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
He's good at it.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I remember him beating on the door and he opened
the door and told Todd.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
What a stick? Yeah, his dreads and body masks were
the same.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Really yeah, he cut him off, but I remember.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Him no, shout out, Louis. No.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
But he pounded on the door and then opened the
door and told Todd that we were coming through. Wasn't
that the year I was pregnant? And Todd spit in
my face and I was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
No, that that was the year before.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh this was when we had to go back to the.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's right, that was the year the year you were pregnant.
Todd made me sit in the chair. Yeah, and gave
me a lap dance.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But he also gave me a kiss. The devil guys.
Todd was the.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And and and a stand up comment local stand up funny.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Great.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
We got to watch him film his special we did
in a abandoned restaurant and he forgot to hit records,
so we got to watch his victual taping twice. It
was great, it was it was actually funny. Or the
second time around it really was. Knew the McDonald's bit,
I remember because it was about his daughter. Oh yeah,
(19:13):
I'm not but that's that's his bit. I'm not going
to say it, but it was had me dead, all right.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So back to man I need to get the boot
button on the soundboard. Ready, you do?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You really should hold on? We should do it again
once you get it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You ready, hold on? I don't think we have a
boot button? What too far? Go ahead, just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So after a while here in our area and amongst
the rest of the United States, mccamie manor became a
very dirty word. It was nasty, like if you're a
true haunted house employee.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I like that. There we go, blue button.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But you if you were a true haunter and you understood.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Which MCCAMEI manter. There we go. That works.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But if you were a true haunter and you you
knew the ins and outs, and you knew that you
weren't allowed to touch people, and you knew that his shit
was fucking shit, you were totally against it. So around
this time of year that you guys are listening is
when the rumor mills starts spreading and everybody starts bringing
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mcameie manner back up, which is why we put this.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
On the show.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I think I think the move to Tennessee was what
really like put that place in the news.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Okay, so the problem not the problem. The thing is
is Ohio has one hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And the most in the country.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yes, Ohio has like one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Check out scare Factor reviews, shout out, shout out, and
Tyler love you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
But all righty one.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Hundred and twenty I think or so haunted attractions. Now
that's like corn mazes, haunted houses, I mean everything.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't remember how many Kentucky has I think they
have like fifty, I don't know, forty nine to fifty.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Something like that. But the Midwest checkout scare factor.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
From like Michigan all the way down to like Alabama
and Georgia, tons tons of haunted attractions. So when mcamie
manor moved to Tennessee, that that put a lemon in
everybody's mouth. You fucking that puts shit in people's mouth.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Do not check out Ohio Valley haunts. They're not a
well there.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
They are only specific to certain haunts by the way
they are.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, I really need to put the boot button in
the applause button next to each other so I don't
have to keep finding it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Are you guys ready to hear about?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
They're?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Uh? Pre like how how you have to like get
ready for mccamie manner?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Are you ready answer? Please? Yeah? Okay, I believe I
speak on behalf of everyone. Yes, read all right.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So to participate, guests have to sign a liability waiver
that includes explicit details of how the attendee may subject
it may be subjected to various forms of physical, sexual,
and psychological torture. In its early years, guests were not
permitted to leave the experience without the staff's permission.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
So if you wanna, if you want to like bow
out before your thirty six hours are.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Up, but the staff has to agree to it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, they're obviously they obviously would say now no because
they're having these freaks are having.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
To much fun.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Sign up for this.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
If you're affiliated with Mcamie Manner in any way, shape
or form, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yes, we're not permitted to leave the experience without the
SaaS permission, but since then safe words have been implemented,
granting the guests to leave at any time if they
so wish.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
However, some past visitors have claimed to being held captive
long after they've called out the agreed upon safe.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Phrase, like oh so if you say the safe word,
they're like, no.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You're good, you can keep going.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You don't know what you want. This is what you want,
So there's I know what you want.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
There's a couple of specials out there of like YouTube, Netflix,
Hulu and stuff like documentaries, Yeah, documentaries about it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I want to watch something.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, we we probably should have before this episode.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I need to be in a better mood before I
watch them because I will be pissed.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I need to be sober when I watch them.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't I don't want to because there was a
gentleman that signed up for it. And I remember this
very vividly when he when mccameye moved to Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, how dare you ruin my home? It was son
of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
He was a marine who done, like, if I'm not mistaken,
two or three tours in a back, gone through so
much shit. He made it the entire way and they said,
oh at the very end when they couldn't torture him anymore,
they said, oh, you said the safe word and got
rid of him. So he didn't win the money.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Alleged money.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Alleged money, Yeah, apparently you were you if you survived it,
you get like twenty grand, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But that was a lie.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Brought in a bag of dog food or a case
of wet dog food.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I will say this one nice thing about Russ McCamy.
What he did was like it was to help. It
was his dogs.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yep, fuck you, I take it back.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Then it was his own dogs he was trying to feed.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You are a hold one you didn't because it's YouTube
now you are such a hit.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, it was his own dogs. He asked for wet food, specifically.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I hope your dogs got gut rot. Oh trick.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, his dogs do not deserve that his dogs have.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
No, that's fair. I'll give him that our dogs choose
to be our dogs. That's fair. But it would make
him sad, and I want him to I.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Don't want to hurt them dogs.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So my Caamie Manner punch him in the face.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh God, I swear to God if I ever see
him on the street.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
By the way, The trick and gut right as cows
only thing.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Mcamie Manner has attracted significant controversy, criticism meet US media
scrutiny as the owner. Russ mccamee claims to have claims
to have a military background of twenty three years in
the Navy, and uses hypnosis and mind control to make
participants believe what he wants them to about what's happening.
He also has a background in theater, having been an
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actor in plays and movies, as well as having been
a singer and a wedding DJ. Many of those close
to him have also made allegations and statements against his character.
His ex wife, Holly Schilido, once described him as a
dangerous predator, while the child of mccamee manor actor stated
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that his dad enjoys torturing people. Yeah, And then in
July twenty twenty four, Russ mccamee was arrested on charges
of attempted second degree murder, rape, and domestic assault. Charges
then were dropped in September.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
How he runs a orchr house. Lock him the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I feel like he has a friend who has legal
legalities and is a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
He's bros with a great eternity.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's not just that, but he knows his way around
the law.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Is his lawyer the guy that got oj off? Probably
that's Johnny Cochrane.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I don't know is he dead or alive. He's alive still.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But no, I think Russ mccamie can find loopholes and
how he if you sign something that says any bodily
harm that happens to you while in here.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Your signature's on a paper that says, yeah, I'm down for.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
This, I'm down for whatever you want to give me.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yep. Safe.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
The tour lasts from eight to ten hours, but no
guest has ever reached the end, which at this point
that is tacchnically on mcamie manor it's true because they haven't.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So wait, he bumped in California, was at thirty six.
When he moved to Tennessee. He knocked it down to
ten to twelve.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
No, it's been thirty six. Well it was thirty six
hours the whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
That's why he was in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes, so he knocked it down, Yes, but he also
ramped it up.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, okay, he made it worse.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
If I if I got to cut it down to
this time, Oh, you're getting and I'm gonna yeah, you're
getting hard.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I'm gonna add too.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
There's literally videos right now if you go on YouTube
and search it. There is a a vlogger who vlogged
it and was able to get some of it, Like
when she came out of it, she didn't have just
her hair shape, She had her hair pulled out in chunks.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
She had her teeth pulled. I know one video I
saw they were force feeding this one guy. It was
a guy they were doing it too, his own shit.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Not not that I didn't know. I didn't see that one.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Oh you didn't know about that one.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I knew about it. I just hadn't seen it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But because well on YouTube, that's why they dumbed it down.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
It was like live insects.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Like like handfuls of spiders not but I know they didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
They had obviously non.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Venomous because yeah, yeah, they don't want to die right now,
everyone's yeah, now, everybody's going to jail.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
As long as you don't die, you're good.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But it was like worms, cockroaches, spiders, yep, I know.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I saw one video.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
They put a guy's hand in like a jar of
fire ants oh's and left it there was until he
passed out, and then while he was passed out, they
fucked with him even more.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
They kept going.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
There was a nineteen year old girl who wanted to
try this retard. She literally walked in the door and
was raped the entire time. Like yes, they fucked her
every hole. They came inside her every hole possible.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Twelve hour of leaky submarine.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't know how many hours, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
But I mean you know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Anything, yeah, terrible nineteen years old. I do believe if
I'm not mistaken, if there's a specific uh, they also
from rumor when all of this started, like uh, the
words started happening about Mcamie Manner around here. They also
said that I don't know if it's in here because
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I haven't made it that far.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They would take uh uh felons who were released from prison.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Oh, that's fine and give them a jay a job.
Uh that's not that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's what they would do anyone who was really released
from prison.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Do you want a job?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, so let's see job you you were in
jail for fucking kids. Yeah, you want to work here?
And you want to rape some girls?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You want a job? You want to rape some people? Oh,
you're on your.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You just got released from manslaughter because you are found
not guilty. Do you want to come here?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
God?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
So, so Peto's got a job.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Anybody sex offenders got a job.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
There's a lot of people. Because they signed a lifetime NDA,
they cannot disclose of what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Oh, you've been sober for ten years. Here, let me
force feed you this beer. What the fuck? God, damn it,
this it's in me. I looks in this. I'm done.
I'm mad. Now hold on, no, I'm I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm I'm Oh, we're just getting started.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So or there's the tip of the sword.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh god, this might be a long episode.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Anyway, so they this might be the first episode where
I'm not like in a good mood the whole time.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's okay, I'm mad, But we're we're getting.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It out there. We're spreading awareness.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Awareness for those of you who think it's a haunted
house and a haunted attraction and you want to try it.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Listen to me.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You're on YouTube watching this, Listen to me. Don't fucking go.
If you go, you.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Are a retard. No, don't don't do it. Fucking go.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Don't give him the fucking publicity.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Shame him, give him negative publicity. Give him publicity, but
make sure it's negative.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He has a one star on uh that's Google reviews.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
That's too much.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
People make fun of it. It's it's pretty much.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's too much. Fuck you, Russ mccameey, Fuck you, you're a
piece of shit. Fuck you and the people that work
for you.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I was gonna say there, because of a lot of
the actors, not actors, but staff, I should say they
had signed a lifetime NDA. No matter what happens, you
cannot speak a fucking.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Word, even though now well everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Everybody knows that you still can't, even though you were
in a boo hole. Everybody knows even though you were
just say you were in a boo hoole.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Oh is this for the actors?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, anybody who was a part it's a loosely used
tern here.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Anybody who was a part of mccamie manor when they
left employed. Yes, when they left their employment.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You're not allowed to talk about what you did, though, can't.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You have to take everything to the grave.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
That's because if you say something, he goes to prison
and he doesn't want to huh.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I also saw something I can't remember where it was,
but they shoved two young ladies, probably early twenties. They
shoved them into a hide, a bed, a couch after
they did whatever they wanted to go. Yeah, they put
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both of them. They put them in a pull out
and closed it on top of them and then sat
on them for hours.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I used to that with my cousins.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
But this is after they did what they did to them.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Well, yeah I did. I did it to them for
like thirty seconds. No, they did. I didn't want to
get in trouble because all right.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So, although there have been reports by past guests of
safe words being ignored, the house operates year round, and
there is a self reported waiting list of over twenty
seven hundred people, twenty seven thousand people.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
That should not adn't exist.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, but then you have those stupid idiots that we
all know in the haunt industry that thinks, oh, I
have a big deal.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh I'm a bad ass. No you're not. You're not
a bad No. I have a question. People know about
what goes on inside the walls.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Of mckinnia manor they think they can handle it.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
We should only use the word retarded for those people.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, No, we should use the word fucking.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Retarded, fucking retarded. Yes, yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Many people in our many years of haunting.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I know actual retarded people that would say no to this?
And I'm in a second, Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah yeah, I would hard No, I mean hard no.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But how many people myself included?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
How many?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
That's what sometimes I'm retarded?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But how many people in the haunt industry do we know,
or did know, because we've been out for so long,
said that they would one be the first in line
from a Camie manner. Listen, I can name five right now.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I can give you ten, and I'm gonna look at
you dead in your face and I hope you're I
hope you're either watching this on all available on all
podcast platforms, or on our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com
slashcres step in pod.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Uh No, you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I know you say you can because you think girls
are looking and they're gonna be like, oh, he is
a badass.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I'm wanna suck his deck. No, you can't. You're a bitch.
I know you personally. I've worked with you in a
haunted house.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You can't handle three hours of extreme heat.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Some of you I watched you cry. Others of you
I fired you because you're too irresponsible.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
You're an idiot. Truth true, you're not tough.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I've watched a lot of you cry because somebody said
a nasty thing. You got hurt because of words. You
can't handle, mccamee mannor you're a bitch. You just don't
have the balls to admit it. If you know who
you are.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
The newest iteration of the tour, a ten hour experience
called Desolation.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Felt really good for me to say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'm glad you did.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I know, I feel I feel really good.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
If I could just say the names, I could die happy, right, now, oh,
I could drop that smile of my face.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
That was a fuck you.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I know, I know at least three of.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Them in Clarksville, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
There's five right now I can name right off the
top of my head.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
We have to say. We could repeat this like say
them yup? Uh huh, yup, yup. That keep going. There's more.
If you saw their face, I.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Hope you didn't see any of.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
That, right, So if you saw their face you oh, yeah,
you too. Yeah that one for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Cast of twenty ten slash eleven huh fuck you.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
So the house operates year round. The newest iteration of
the tour ten hour experience, called Desolation, originally offered a
prize of twenty grand for a successful.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Compat Great Song.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
By the way, McCamey deducted five hundred dollars from the
prize for every failed challenge or use of profanity.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Ow my frickin' head hurts.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Is that No, frickin' Nope, doesn't doesn't matter. Oh my butt,
he's trying to get that out.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
However, due to McCamey believing that people were going through
with the experience for the wrong reasons, the twenty grand
prize is no longer offered. During the tour, employees of
the Manor may physically oh.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Shit, let's it run on the soundboard? Yep? Nice.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
So during the tour, employees of the Manor may physically
assault patrons, waterboard them, force them to eat and drink
unknown substances, have them bound and gagged, and engaged in
other forms of physical and psychological torture.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Didn't you say there was one guy that they made
him take a shit and then fed him his own shit.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, while he was chained, while he was in a cage,
like one of those medieval time cages.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, it was the like it was the dominant mysterio
in a cage match with Livin Rhea.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
He was dominant.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, No, it was one of those Renaissance medieval time case.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh, the circle, the circle, the one that Casey Jones
that not passed Casey Jones was in a Ninja Turtles three.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yep, he shout out last week.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
May also be drugged during their experience.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
What kind of drugs are we talking? Hold on? Maybe
I might be down now it might be are we
doing PCP? Okay, not the good drugs?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Oh Man journalist Tara West has reported that the communities
where the tour is staged. Residents questioned how it remains
legal even with waivers.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
They make him do whippets when they walk into the
free door. Not even whippets. Whippets make you brain dead
for like ten seconds.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, but it's not even that their brain did.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Just signing up. If you yeah, if you say, if
you're down for this, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
So the list of requirements go through the experience is
extensive and not completing or fulfilling any of the requirements
will stop participants from being allowed to participate. The requirements
include completing a sports physical, getting a doctor's note saying
you are physically and mentally sound, passing a background check,
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showing proof of medical insurance, passing a drug test the
day of, as well as being at least eighteen with
eighteen twenty years requiring apparent approval. If you're under twenty
one eighteen eighteen to twenty one, you have to have
a parental consent.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
This is not okay, and there is none of this
is okay.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Hold that there is also a forty page waiver. Who
reads forty pages of waiver? I know when we got
the house, When we got the house, I just signed.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I don't know what the papers on our house even say.
I don't either, couldn't I just were they said?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Sign? I sign.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So participants must also comply with the rules, which include
no running, touching of props or actors, and using foul
language or pushing.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Wait, you can't touch, but they can. Yep, Well that's
fucking hypocrisy. Right there, A volunteer hypocritizer Right there.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
A volunteer guided testified that the forty page wave ver
signed by participants listed such possible risks as having teeth extracted,
being tattooed, and having fingernails removed.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So what kind of tattoos can you like? So I
want the ghost?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think if I'm not mistaken, I do believe that
they they probably draw like dicks on you or right,
I'm gay on your forehead. Somebody got a swastika on
their forehead. I'm pretty sure. Okay, come on, that's I'm
pretty I'm I'm pretty sure. I've seen that video.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
That's like the tenth worst tattoo And I'm kidding, that's
the that's the worst tattoo anybody could get.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Ever, yep.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Participant participants must also watch a two hour long video
that includes videos of past participants, as well as being
screened personally by Russ McCamey. If the participant does not
meet his expectations aka you're not pretty enough and personal requirements,
then they will not be allowed to continue on with
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the experience. In its early years, it was also required
that dog food or funds for animal where welfare be
used as payment to participate. In recent years, a monetary
donation is recommended, but not mandatory.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I know one person that's not pretty enough.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Me.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
No, it definitely isn't you.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Who huh.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, she'd walk in the front or they'd be like,
just go okay.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
The exitters over there just had that.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
La ting to participant Laura Hurt Brotherton on a visit
to the Manor in twenty sixteen, she repeatedly used her
safe word for several minutes before employees stopped torturing her.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Doesn't say what her safeboard was.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
She was later treated at a hospital for extensive injuries.
I think this is the one who had all but
four teeth pulled. Yeah, she had her back bowlers like
she only had two on the top, and it was
like here and here and here. She looked like Philo
also had her hair not shaved, but ripped out.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Of her head. Funny scenario.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
You do go to mcameie Manor, but you know, and
you can back it up. You can fuck up everybody here.
You just going to Mcamie Manor start beating the shit
out of everyone.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Touch them or you don't get anything, and they'll probably
drag you out. Okay, you signed a waiver. You're going
to jail for assault.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I honestly, hey, babe, worth it worth I know, like
and I know, and I can and like like say,
I go in there and I can back this up.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I can beat the fuck out of all these people.
I know I can't.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Like, Yeah, sit John Jones UFC World Heavyweight Champion, one
of the greatest fighters of all time. I'll go in,
all right, you just beat the dog shit he come out,
all right, Roster's not twenty grand had it? Well, there's
there's if you read it. No, okay, fine, No.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
There was a guy who actually completed the whole thing
and Russ said, you fucked up. He said, no, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I saw that video.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
It was uh some vlogger or yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It's like a three part video on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I watched, said absolutely not. I never did anything against
the rules. Nope, give me my money, he said, but
you did something small, something very small.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And there was proof, Russ, there's proof that that guy. No,
he didn't and he was.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
An actual Navy seal.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah that did this. Yeah, Yeah, you're you're a seal.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Mccamee. If you're a Navy seal. Mcamie manner is like, oh,
let's green, let's have it.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Maene made it through.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Let's have a tickle fight.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, I'm a seal. Mcamie manner is a tickle fight
compared to what I had.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, so, mccamie manner. Summertown, Tennessee, has been the subject
of many complaints in laws. Lawrence County County Commissioner Scott
Frank described an incident where deputies were called to the
property after a neighbor saw a woman dragged screaming from
a van as part of the experience. Staged or not,
this is simply something that none of us want to
be near any d d DA DA simply something that none
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of us want.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Anywhere near us.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
The District Attorney DA Brent Cooper said the program was
legal because the people subjected themselves to it voluntarily?
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Were it in Tennessee? Was it?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
It's that top page right there, Summerville, Summer Summerfield because
the people subg though participants could withdraw their consent at
any time, according to Summertown. In July of twenty seventeen,
Frank puts a community alert on his Facebook in opposition
to mcamie Manor, which had almost six hundred comments, with
most being opposed to the activity in Summertown Summertown. Nashville
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scene journalist Megan Selling has questioned many of the manners. Claims,
here's the thing. There's no twenty thousand dollars, she wrote,
saying that nobody has completed the tour by design. No
one made it to the supposed Huntsville portion of the show.
Mcamie knows what it will break people.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
At Kamy Manor, thirty minutes south of Nashville. It's three
and a half hours from here.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
He can simply pull out what is needed to shut
down the show when it is ready to end.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, straight shot directly south YEP.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
On October thirty first, twenty twenty three, the Tennessee A
Attorney General reporter Jonathan Schmetskermetti notified mcamee Manor that it
was under investigation over concerns about its business practices whether
they might violate the state's consumer protection laws. Specific concerns
include allegations that withdraw consent is not honored, lack of
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access to the waiver, and inability for contestants to win
the purpose prize money. A tweet was made stating that
the letter was sent raising these concerns about mccamee's business practices.
In response to the official McKenney Manor account simply responded,
hater's gonna hate I remember that. A few months after
the investigation, mcamee filed a thirty two page lawsuit against
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the Tennessee Attorney General, claiming the request violated his first, fourth, fifth,
and fourteenth Amendment rights. The lawsuit was ultimately dropped in August,
yet mccamee's attorneys have asked the courts to reconsider. Mccamee
later filed a lawsuit in April against Hulu and one
of the participants included in their documentary.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
While Hulu That's It.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
While Hulu was dismissed from the lawsuit, it is still
ongoing against participants who was interviewed media coverage. Mccamie Manner
was featured extensively in the twenty seventeen documentary film Haunters
The Art of the Scare on Netflix the original series
Dark Tourist. It also is the subject of the twenty
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twenty three Hulu documentary Monsters Inside a.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Minute Haunters The Art of the Scare. No, I'm thinking
of the Monsters documentary. Rich teach Out, Yes, shout out,
Rich cheat Out's the man.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I love Rich cheat Out. But he's out now.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh my god. All right, rip to that haunt.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
I have never had a boss that in the haunt industry.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Big Rip Asylum, Hunted screen Park, the greatest haunt in
Louisville in the area.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yes, the number one. It was. It was one of
my favorites. It was my.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It was my and I worked for a Slenderman. Oh,
slender Man was the best.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
It was the best.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I worked for a competitor Haunt, well, we both did.
But in Darkness Falls, Oh my god, I see, Oh
my god, Zombie City. I have never alien attack.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I have never been more immersed in a home.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
They made you feel a part of the show.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
That's that. That's the that's the takeaway.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
That's oh my god. I always left asylum look like, dude,
this place fucking rules.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I remember when Rich bought half of Seventh Street. Yeah,
and he walked into the makeup room in the first
couple of a couple of nights that we were open,
and he looked at me and he said. I can't
remember what he said, but I was so stressed out
and I turned around doing after like I'm in the
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middle of a makeup and I said.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
He was a motivator.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I said, fuck off. If you don't trust me at
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
He said, okay, let me finish. Okay, fuck off.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
If you don't trust me, then fucking fire me. And
he grabbed my hand and he kissed my hand and
he said, as you wish, and turned around and walked away.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Teach how was the dog? He had that dog in him.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
He knew he knows how.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
The greatest haunt owner of all time in this area,
out of every haunt owner in the Ohio.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Valley area, A.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Rich Jason, Yeah, Rich Rich teach Out was the fucking man.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
He's the goat love Pyton Manning.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
He's yeah, he's John Cena, Peyton Manning, He's the King.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I got three more, four more pages, okay. A YouTuber
by the name of breckfast bin was All had also
made a series of YouTube videos surrounding the manor, including
videos exposing the secrets of mcamee manner. YouTube Trilogies Media
have also made a documentary style video on the topic,
bringing victims of mccamey's alleged abuse to narrate their experience.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Oh, Phil Granger is in that conversation of greatest Haunt
owners of all time?
Speaker 2 (50:54):
It seemed like an innocent bit of fun. In the
early two thousands, Russ McCamey and his then wife Carol
went on to TV explaining that they were spending thirty
thousand dollars to make Halloween at their home bigger and
better than anyone else. Fans cued around the block of
the quiet San Diego suburb to experience fake blood, spooky props,
teenage actors giving them jump scares. Until that is, things
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got much much more darker.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
By twenty twenty twelve, there it is twenty twenty twelve.
It was first year at seventh Street. Not psychomania twenty
twenty twelve or twenty twelve twenty Yeah, twenty twelve, twenty Yeah,
how do you say that year twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Twenty eleven, twenty twelve, not twenty twenty twelve. Yep, sorry,
that's in the future.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
I'm hold on participants. By twenty twelve, participants were being
water boarded, chained up in boxes, and almost buried alive
after mcamee decided to make Mcamie manor more extreme kid
Free Zone. I was seeing people come out shaking uncontrollably.
One guy, it looked like his nose was broken. Another
burst of blood vessel in his eye. It was full
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of blood, said Mercedes An, a certified lifeguard with basic
first aid training who was there to deal with the fallout.
So that would be like, oh, okay, So we watched
fifteen seasons of R.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
The guilt I would feel if that was that.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
So we watched fifteen seasons of R and now we're
halfway over, halfway through the resident. Yeah, technically we're kind
of doctors and we were thrown into an er right
now with what we know, which is nothing.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
TV doctors, yes, Doctor Green, all of our favorite TV
doctors are dead.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
People would have psychotic breakdowns on the show. Only time
they would stop the tour. Then they would bring me
into calm them down. Here's the kicker, Mercedes. An was
fifteen years old. We didn't get paid or anything, explains Anne,
who began volunteering at the Manor at thirteen after beating
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McKenny at a community barbecue back when Russ and Carroll
were like the cool aunt and uncle. Over the following years,
mccamee would not take a single payment for entering the Manor. Instead,
participants were required to bring dog food to give charity.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah cool, that's all loose leaves now, because I thought
I did, honestly up until recent It's first, I didn't
know that those and then.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Whatever extra or what he doesn't want.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Would you imagine being his dog and they're like, dude,
we can't eat this.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
No, the food he doesn't want he will give, but
he keeps what he wants.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
My dogs don't like this brand, so I'll give it
to a shelter. Yep, God damn.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Everyone I spoke to seemed to have an eye opening tale,
all of which seemed too wild to be true, although
when we put into a detailed list of them all
to mccamee, he chose not to comment. He gave me
threats of being buried alive. I got lowered into a
well ten foot in the ground.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Did it put the lotion on the skin or did
it get the hose? Again?
Speaker 2 (54:09):
I couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
No. You know what actually fixes that?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
If you get lowered into a well, just request a
copy of Auto Trader.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Joe Dirt. That was all. No, I'll come on, I
get it. I'm trying to. I'm really trying to lighten
the mood.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Here hues as this.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Oh hell, look at this. This is sixty eight Chevy
chev Chavelle. He's got twin turbo. That's badass.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
According to mccamie, the manor had a twenty four thousand
person waiting list and there was a twenty grand reward
for anyone able to complete it live.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
No one ever has Signs.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Were required to sign a waiver up to forty pages long,
stating you can be subject to drowning, electoral shocks and
exposure to poisonous animals, be slap, shoved, restrained, and that
may result in broken bones, dislocation of limbs, crush limbs,
and blackouts. If no one was getting paid, why were
people agreeing to volunteer? Chris Smith saw mcamee on the
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twenty seventeen documentaries Haunters Out of the Scare. They became
friends after Smith got in touch, offering to help mcamey
with some graphic design work. They began speaking on the
phone every day in informed friendship. As Smith says, mcamee
was a goof. I didn't really take him seriously. But
in twenty eighteen, Smith, who had already gone through the
manner once and cope, decided to go through a second time.
He gave me threats of being buried alive. I got
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lowered into a well ten foot into the ground. He
was made to unlock paddocks via combination codes while water
was filling the well. I can't do that, I tell him,
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
For the night.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
I'm tired, Smith says, but mccamee persuaded him to do
one more thing. Smith says he ended up being dragged
into a metal truth behind troth behind a truck. Russ
had told me I'm always gonna know when to stop,
don't worry about it. While in the truugh, Smith says,
mccamee started shoveling dirt on me over and over again.
I started waving my hand while saying I quit. But
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Smith says mccamee didn't stop immediately, that in fact, would
continue the tour as long as he's having fun. Their
friendship soon broke down. Mccamee seemed to have network of
people like Smith willing to help him for nothing, but
in twenty nineteen, mark the beginning of.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
A shift can punch Me, Kick Me?
Speaker 2 (56:24):
There were growing concerns across social media about the manor,
especially on Reddit, debates cropped up whether mccameie was running
on Redroom. Ooh, redroom, you can punch me, kick me,
pull my hair?
Speaker 3 (56:37):
I am aok.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Be instabbed, biting and scratching are on the table.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
You can use fire. These are the ground rules. Is
there anything off limits? Damn man, you got something really
sick you want to do? Huh?
Speaker 2 (56:50):
They s yep, sorry, yeah, live streaming videos of people
being abused or tortured to sell on the dark web.
That's what red room is. Red Room is you get
to watch people being tortured. You get to watch live
on the dark web.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
All right, let me just say this. I'm not one
to kink shame.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh this is total kink shame.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
But but shame on you imagine walking into became Manor
and they're like, Oh, we're gonna We're gonna focus suit up.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
The whole time. The guy's like, I'm into all of this.
I'm gonna come for the next twelve hours. I'm rock hard.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
I'm coming. And then all the all the quote unquote, well,
let's call them employees.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
I'm not going to use the word actors because now
the employees are like, Okay, this is getting too much.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
This guy is not taking this the entire time. He
walks in, what do we do? And Russ is like,
put his dick off jokes on you. This guy wants
to be trans anyway.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Fuck, we don't know how did you know what? Let's
give this guy twenty grand?
Speaker 2 (58:08):
So did you know that an online petition titled shutdown
mccameye Manor received one thousand and nine hold line one
hundred and ninety two, seven hundred and forty four thousand signatures.
And I know that we were one of those.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
Two of those. I think we were like number seven eight.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Well, I'm gonna say, as soon as I heard about it,
I signed it.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
I think I signed under like all the emails I
have same, I signed under the show's email.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Since then, there have been eight petitions to do just that.
Smith is part of the global movement to close it.
Mccamie was no stranger to documenting his life and posting
it online. In two thousand and nine, he launched his
YouTube channel mccameye Manner Presents. By twenty nineteen, the things
in his participants had to endure were brandished across the
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Internet as part of the deal of signing up. In
one video, a man has his eyes duct taped and
is seemingly covered in oil and a blood like substance.
An actor is shaving his head and holding a hammer
over his teeth. Ah remember this.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
One, Wait this one.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
He smashed his teeth in with a hammer. Nope, yep,
I'm out. What's there's no?
Speaker 2 (59:28):
No, he held the ham he can can'k' cank Oh.
Speaker 3 (59:32):
I thought youven like smile and show your teeth and
like fraack.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
No, he opened his mouth and was hitting his teeth
with a hammer. Oh, like capping or like oh yeah,
now he was breaking his teeth.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
God fuck it, Oh my god, I'm gonna be sick.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
The same man appears to have blood pouring from his
mouth while he lays unconscious on the ground. So let's
go downstairs. Babe, let me take that hammer that you
have in your tool box.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
No, this is my birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I will I will hit your teeth.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Oh baby, you nasty bitch. I love you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Gabriella Hardiman nineteenth stop was one of those whose videos
was posted on a YouTube page. I felt a little
weird with the cameras, she admits. Having seen mccamie on TV,
she figured that most of the controversial acts were part
of the theater. She signed up via the manor's official
Facebook group and quickly received a call that said, there's
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a cancelation. You have to come tomorrow. This is the
only chance. Hardiman was chained inside of a freezer box,
had a tarantula put on her face, had a panic
attack mid experience. I remember being in a straight jacket,
lying in water and having it poured over my face.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
She recalls, Oh was the waterboarding.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yep, one of the times someone called the cops because
they we were outside screaming. The man had so many
problems in the community that the haunt ended up. It's
not a haunt, it's a torture house. Ended up moving
to Tennessee. I hate the fact that they call it
a haunt. It is not a fucking haunt. It's a
goddamn torture house.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Be funny moving to Tennessee in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
If you went through McKinney Manor and they're like, oh,
bring out the rats, and you're like, oh, look.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
At the babes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yes, give me out of that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I'm gonna I'm gonna put rats down as my biggest fear.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
I'm not a fan of spiders, but you bring out
the tarantula, It's like, oh, it's an eight legged puppy.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yes, look at your woodle begy. I would put the
reverse of my fear.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
And they're looking like this isn't no white hold on,
You're supposed to be scared.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Oh. Gabriella posted a video against him in twenty seventeen.
It was on YouTube for two days before I took
it down because the hate I was getting from Russ
and the community was insane. It's why I waited so
long talk about it, and why in my interviews my
voice is shaking because I'm scared of how people are
going to perceive it. She feels shame about speaking out
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because she signed a waiver consenting in taking part. What
makes the waiver even more controversial is that it may
not even legally stand up. I've read a lot of
contracts over the past twenty years. I've never seen anything
like this, says Thomas Greer, a lawyer from Tennessee. While
determining whether every detail in people's experiences was legal is
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extremely complicated, Greer is clear on one thing. It was
legal for thirteen year old Mercedes and to sign a
contract thirteen the lifeguard who was their medic? Did you
not hear me twenty minutes ago?
Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
I heard the fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
She was fifteen, but she'd been working there for two
years as a medic. She was just lifeguard.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Oh, she started when she was thirteen.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
She was just lifeguard certified. She was at the YMCA
watching children float.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
By twenty twenty three, complaints about the manner was too
prominent to ignore. Hulu released a documentary Monsters, Inside America's
most extreme Haunted House, presenting first hand accounts of the
manner and the trauma participants had experienced. Mccamee filed a
lawsuit alleging invasion of privacy in October twenty twenty three,
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a YouTuber Reckless Man made it his mission to complete
the manner, only to discover that mccamee was now only
operating a physical boot camp in his front garden instead.
After hearing testimonies from participants, Ben Schneider went viral trying
to shut down the manner. He was regularly posting exposees
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of mccamey's behavior, passing on footage of ex employees had
given him to the police. Unrelated to the manner of
personal altercation had led mccamey's arrest in July of twenty
twenty four for domestic violence, attempted murder and rape of
the next girlfriend. In September, the charges against him were dropped.
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If the Facebook posts on the group Keep mccameie Manor
Open is anything to go by, there are still fans
of mccamee Manor despite the controversy. Fuck you for supporting
mccamee manor. Does anyone know how to get signed up
for mccameie Manor, asked a fan in early October of
twenty twenty four. I want a shot at the challenge.
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The manner's closure, it seems, is still very much up
for debate. That was The Guardian.
Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Maybe boom.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Nice got airtime. This one's the Guardian. Be warned, mccamie
Manor is not your standard boo haunted house. This is
an audience participation event in which you will live your
own horror movie. This is rough, intense and truly frightening experience.
You must be in great health to participate. Last year's
Home It's not a Haunt, It's a torture House was
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absolutely nothing compared to the new mccamie man Or. New
for twenty twenty three, mcamie Manner presents The Descent. The
Descent This is what is on their website right now,
the next evolution of interactive survival horror theater theatre. Understand
that each tour would be different based upon your personal
fears and can be last up to six hours. Each
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guest will be mentally and physically challenged until you reach
your personal breaking point. Do not wear expensive clothing. This
is again on their website. Okay, do not wear expensive clothing.
Do not bring anything that cannot get wet. If anyone
becomes rowdy, pushing, shoving, running, they will immediately be removed.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
No questions.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Ask anyone that has been drinking alcohol or taking drugs
will not be allowed into the haunt and will be
asked to leave the property. At check in, you will
be required to show your ID the way we're process
for descent will last two hours. Waiver process is two
fucking hours. Fuck that. One performance only per week, year round.
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Specific requirements must be met in order to take the tour.
Think about the average ten to twenty minute haunt or
a theme park at Halloween and what you've experienced. Was
it really interactive and scary at the New mccamie manor
you experienced thrills that you have never seen before. You
will be tested to you a very cool If things
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become too much, you can always quit, which means he
does not have to give you shit. But he never
gave anybody shit who finished. There were at least three
who have finished. Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit. You
are not a haunted house. You are not a haunted attraction.
You are a torture porn bullshit it place. Fuck you,
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Russ McCamey, Jesus, God, damn Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Fuck you. Please fuck your mother, fuck your wife. Fuck you.
Fuck you. If you or anyone a right, your mom's sick.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Who listens to or who listens, who goes to haunted attractions,
who works at haunted attractions, Who is a supporter of
mccamei manner because they think they could survive.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Fuck that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Don't give him the publicity.
Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Shut him down.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Share this with your friends. Share this with your friends
who think mccamee Manor is a haunted house.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
A hundred house, it's a holded house. It's not I
thought I thought mckamey Manor got shut down.
Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I maybe I don't know. It might still be up.
Just stop giving them publicity. This is bullshit. There is
There is nothing good about this place. Russ McCamey. Fucking
jack's off watching people fucking almost die. Okay, you think
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you can last in cool?
Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Good on you.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Why don't you go join the military. You want to die,
you want to get close to death. Go be a
Navy seal, Go be a Marie.
Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
According to owner Rust mccameey, fuck you, the controversial haunted
attraction McKinney Manor is still open and operating despite ongoing
legal challenges and investigations.
Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
He doesn't give a fuck. Following the twenty twenty three
Hulu documentary Monster Inside the Tennessee Attorney General launch an
investigation into the manors practices. Fuck you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Recent development in July breaking news Ladies twenty twenty four,
owner Rest McKinney was arrested and faced charges. I've got
that against legal murder, rape, and domestic assault.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I've already done that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
The charges are dropped in September.
Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I already did that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Uh. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
I don't know if they're still open, but if they are,
stop supporting them.
Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Jesus fuck. Yes, it is still open and it now
has at one point nine. So again, if you're a haunter.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Openunter, share it with your haunter friends, because this is
not a haunt Jesus fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Not just a haunter, just people in general, everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
You're free to this. I have a big dick. I
could totally do this.
Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
No, No, you can't. Do you want? You like your teeth?
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Do you like your eyes? Do you like your butthole
being able to hold in a fart? If not, you
ain't gonna have no butt all to hold in a fart.
Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
My Kamie Manor is still uh, it is open right now.
Twenty four seven three sixty five.
Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Well, whenever Russ says I'm gonna open.
Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
No, it's there's hours of operation online. Fuck it's open.
Why people are going through it right now as we speak,
it's happening. It's a fucking torture. It is not okay.
Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Please please again. If anything that you take away from
this fucking episodisode, it is not a haunted house. It
is not a haunted attraction. It is a torture porn house.
It's a trap house.
Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I wouldn't even call it torture porn. It is a
it's a torture house.
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
It's a torture house. But no, no, Russ, Russ gets off.
I remember us being a trans world and there were
friends yeah who said, oh no, he gets off watching
the videos.
Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
After people go through everything.
Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Watches the video back and just fucking wax it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Everything about this establishment, the people who work there, the owner.
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
You suck.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
You're not a fucking human being.
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
You're everyone. If you're affiliated with this, you're a piece
of ship.
Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Go fucking eat a curb.
Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
You. You deserve bad things to happen. You suck.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Karma is gonna get you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Yeah, we'll get you. Like how how inhumane to me?
Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
And said, hey, I'll offer you ten grand I'll offer
you X amount of money to come and work it.
Fuck you, no money.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Is You're not You're not edgy, you're not cool. You suck.
You're hurting people again.
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
That's why he hires felons, That's why he hires teenagers.
That's why he hires people. Oh, let your imagination run
wild and do whatever you want to them.
Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
No, this is not okay. Nothing about mccami manor iska.
There is nothing. No, it's horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yes, it is the absolute fucking worst. Honestly, I I
feel like I am a badass and I can walk
through any fucking haunt and I could, I could call
it out. But this is my problem. My bodily autonomy
when I enter mccamie manner is not my own anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Is what they want it to be? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
They tell they do to me what I don't. I
have no say so.
Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
There isn't a dollar amount the amount that could get
me to go to do this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Nope, I don't support any of this. I don't like pain.
Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I am I am. I am phobic certain pain. I
am McCamey, I'm a McCamey phobe.
Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
I like that mccamyo, name it that episode named McCamey.
Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
It man.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Already advertised it as m manner.
Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
That's fine, fuck mccamie manor.
Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
If I have to say, be phobic to mccamei manner.
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Also again, stop it, stop it, shut it down, Shut
it the fuck down. If your friends say, oh you
do no, stop it.
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
There has to be some kind of legal loophole.
Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
There isn't because he has he has he.
Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
He there something.
Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Nope, they have tried, They have tried, then torched the place.
Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
They can't. They can't.
Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
It's private property, private property. You can't shoo drones.
Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Blow it up.
Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Nope, there's nothing he he he's got, He's got inside
people that nobody knows about. That's that's making this happen.
Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I hate this, Yeah, I hate like. I hate this.
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
The Kami Manor puts a bad taste in into the
actual haunted attraction world.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
The only way to shut it down is like you,
you have a brain in your fucking head.
Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
There's a brain inside that use it a lot of haunts, don't.
You're not a badass. You can't.
Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Oh I could talk, No, you can't. Well here again,
if you're okay with this. There is something mentally wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
With you, go see a therapist or a psychologist.
Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
That's even better. Just don't fucking go now here.
Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Here's my problem, the end of this in discussion. Will
will end it here. Mccamie manor is putting bad, bad, bad,
labeling bad tastes for actual haunted attractions. So we have
(01:14:25):
a will used to be touch haunts where you you
could either upgrade and pay more to get touched. There's
the Haunted Hotel, which stems from San Diego, California.
Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Robert Bruce shout out, shout out team Michael J. Fox.
Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
But there there's owners from San Diego that had the
Haunted Hotel. But when a certain person who rhymes with
itch bought it, he made it all a touch haunt.
So you walked through no matter who you are, you
got touched.
Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
His name rhymes with bitch.
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
But you you got touched, You got you were interacted physically.
There's a difference between a touch haunt and a torture haunt.
Like some of the things like fear Fair, they did
it great. Fear Fair was extravagance on their touching.
Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
They would grab your shirt and then let or grab
you and then let you go right, or.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
They would bite you and then let go.
Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
They had a two second role.
Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
But I feel like they did. Yes, but you also
had to be a seasoned actor. Yeah, you couldn't miss
a night. Doesn't miss it. You couldn't miss a night for.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Three years, three seasons going into your fourth.
Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
It's fine, right, which is fucking great.
Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Because the owner wanted to know that you can trust you,
so to be safe.
Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
You you get to that that horn holes it's no no,
because Russ mccamie is putting mccamee manor as something that
is literally like everybody's going into your haunt here, whether
it's Devil's Attic, Field of Screams, Black Orchard, Haunted Hotel.
(01:16:20):
We are not mcamee manner. If you want that type
of intensity, go to mcamee manor. Good luck, good luck
to you. I hope you keep all your teeth, I
hope you keep your hair, I hope you keep your eyesight,
I hope you keep your tight butt hole at that point,
I hope you never have to eat shit. But here it's.
Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
It's it's tame.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Fuck you McCamey Manor for ruining haunted houses in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Because California, and no, not just the Midwest in general,
because California ran them.
Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Ount in Tennessee is not strong enough to get them
ran out because he's found loopholes. Fuck you, goddamn fuck
Russ McCamy.
Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Just don't go.
Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Just stop going, stop supporting it. Don't go see someone
say something.
Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Shut it down, tackle them.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Put our podcast link, Put this podcast link down and say, hey,
you want to listen to a podcast who actually talks
about it and how shitty it is.
Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Put this link down. Russ mccameey, go fuck yourself on
that note.
Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
We should have ended it at that, but okay.
Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
No we are on that note. We'll start over. Fuck you,
Reuss McCamy. On that note.
Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
You can check us out at Grace taproom dot com. Yep,
all of our podcast platforms are there.
Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Don't forget about tap Room Radio right now is playing
our classic and modern age and uh.
Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Halloween music, spooky music. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Also check out our Sons podcast, The Legendary Gunner Podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Uh that is a bi weekly show. If you're a
fan of the WWE, then that's the show for you.
Pro wrestling. It's the greatest w pro wrestling podcast in Louisville.
Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yes, it is circling back around to tap Room Radio
Halloween Music twenty four to seven. There's one hundred and
fifty songs on our station right now for it ad free. Uh.
You got old school classics in the thirties, you got
new age in like the two thousands. It's it's a
(01:18:29):
little hot, a little bit of Halloween music for everybody.
Thank you, guys for joining the tap Room of Terror
episode one.
Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Oh my god, the veil is fucking thinning city. Can
you feel the veil? Oh? I feel the veil. It's
fucking thinness Falk right now. The veil thinning as fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
The veil is thinning as our mead is getting stronger.
Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
More on that later, bah mead, Ladies and gentlemen. Tune
in next week when we discuss zombies.
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Zombie, followed by nineteen ninety six's the og found footage
film Double Airwitch Project.
Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Ye. Thank you guys for listening so much.
Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Grace taproom dot com for everything, all of our platforms,
March Store, Patreon dot com for bonus content. We love you, guys,
and we'll see you next week. We hope that this
Monday is better now. We hope we didn't piss you
off too much. I love you, and we'll see you
next week.
Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
I fucking hate you, especially Big Nick.
Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
I love you Big Nick. Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Bye. I was waiting for you. Bye to T
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