Episode 225: Zombies

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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hello everyone, and welcome to a brand new episode of
the Grace Taproom Podcast. We are continuing on with Taproom
of Terror this week, and as always, I am joined
by my spooky co host, the will Walker from Walking
Dead season two, The Trash can.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Wait? Are you trying to say something now?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'm just manage. It was a roast.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was because I am a fat, water.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Logged, soggy bottom boy in constant sorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You you changed the key like fourteen times.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well that's how I sing, and you should know this
sutn't sing. Sorry, walker Bait.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'll accept that.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hey, walker Bait.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Really thought you were gonna say when she gets mad,
she turns into a rage vier zombie.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
No, yeah, no maybe sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
World wars you not that bad? Twenty eight days later.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Let's go that. Well, but that's that's toned down a
little bit. Yeah, that's the next from the top tier.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
What about resident evil zombies. That's a little bit closer.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
They're still slow moving.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Ish, not as slow as like walking down though.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, so would you say that your nemesis?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
No one, Alice, No, if you're a zombie, sure.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Hall Hall Hall, all I need to I need we
need to clip that I gotta video skills.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Your mother Shure does care about your school and son.
Forrest Gump, that's Forrest Gump preference. You've never seen for
You've seen seen.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It, but I've seen it in clips and I've never
watched it all the way through. Really, but we're not
talking about Forest Cump.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
We're talking about zombies. We're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Zam zombies, zombie zambies, zombies.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Forrest Gump is actually one of my all time favorite movies.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, that we'll get around to that one day. So
those of you on socials that had seen what I posted,
So I love zombies. They are super fucking overrated.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
You like the you like them when you don't have
to do them.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
But making a spf X makeup artist, I fucking hate
doing zombies my my worst memory.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I should say, you like watching them on television and film,
you don't like creating them.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I mean I didn't mind creating zombies because you know,
it was really fun coming up with different ideas of
like what kind of zombie is this? You know, like
getting their ideas on the backstories of like where were
you bitten? How are you changing? Like what kind of
zombie do you want?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
To be.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
How do I need to color you.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
In case anyone asks? Again, I'm drinking natty ice.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh are we doing drinks?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
No? Uh? People were asking, oh, what you were drinking? Like, oh,
he's probably drinking Twisted two. Again. I haven't had twisted
tea in like two months. It's been it's been a
long time. Yeah, I'm staying away from it.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm doing root beer vodka.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
That is a new poison that I found that I
really like it a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
And the thing I like about natural ice is I
can buy thirty of them for twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
So and it lasts you two weekends.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
That probably isn't going to be the case this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, yeah, because we got Clash tomorrow. So or when
next week? Oh it is Lash next week?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Clash, Yeah, Clash Crown Jewel. That's next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Is it next Saturday? I thought it was this Saturday.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
No, it's not tomorrow. Oh well no, we're watching by
the fire pit. We're watching Halloween at the fire pit.
After that, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Anyway, So back, I mean, I'm fine with that, but no,
back to the zombies.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh yeah, what are we talking about? On episode two
of tap Room of terror this.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Week zombiesmies, but no, the whole like the makeup aspect
of zombies depending. You gotta you really gotta think about it,
like what stage of decomposition are they in? What stage
of turning are they in? What stage? Like it's this
whole thing. One of my biggest like shit moments was

(04:54):
whenever we would have the zombie walk, yes, or zombie
attack of whatever the fuck it was called at that point,
but no, but the somebody changed it to zombie attack.
I don't remember who, but anyway, So for those of
you guys listening, zombie walks started off as a birthday
thing because there were like three or four people who

(05:16):
shared a birthday of August thirty. First they would walk
down Bartstown Road here in Louisville, Kentucky, and they dressed
up as zombies, going bar to bar, bar to bar. Well,
it just it just grew. It turned into a very
large birthday party, which it every year got bigger and
bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. So it became

(05:36):
like an annual event and it was like the kickoff
thunder over Louisville to Derby. Zombie walk was the thunder
over Louisville to Halloween and Haunt season like Haunted House
season here. I remember trying to schedule makeups for one
zombie Walk and I think I did twenty I want

(06:02):
to say, twenty three zombies in one day.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I remember a lot of people that we won't name
here automatically assumed that, oh, she's my friend, so she'll
do my makeup whatever I want for free.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah no, no, absolute only way that I did their
makeup for free is if they a promoted the haunted
attraction we worked at. B worked the booth like it
had to deal with the haunted attraction, but because we
had to pay a cut back to the Haunted House
because of using that makeup.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right, Yeah, if you weren't associated with our unnamed haunt
that we worked at, no, you're.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Not even associated. It was you paid full price. If
you were not associated, but you were associated, you got
a discount.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But is that what you did?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And if you wanted it for free, you had to
promote and work, that's what you had to work. But
I swear to God, like zombie Walk turned into Hooker
Central to where girls would wear pasties on their nipples
walk around in high heeled shoes, cover themselves in blood

(07:08):
and be like, oh Mazami and uh.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
We had a mutual friend of ours, the art the
last one we went to, he got into a fight.
I remember that, Daniel Montgomery.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You don't remember, trying to remember.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
He kept turning his chainsaw on. Oh yeah, my guy
started wanting to pick a fight with him.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah. He was like, oh, you're scaring my goods, you're
scaring my kids, then don't bring your fucking kids.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, So Daniel kicked his ass. It was that hippie guy.
I swear to god, why oh you never forget that.
Shout out Daniel Montgomery for that.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Shout out, dude, shout out. But what I don't get
is why do you bring children? Children? There were people,
and I remember Haunt industry wise would bring toddlers.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
This was clearly an eighteen and older event too.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
It should have been eight and older. But you can't
card ten thousand people. Yeah, I mean you you could,
but it would have been more.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Like ten thousand plus.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah. I think at one point it was like fifteen
or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'd say way more than that.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
They why do you bring kids like? I remember toddlers
like mothers dragging their toddlers through the haunted house as
they're screaming and crying. And I mean there were kids
at zombie Walk who were like, this is cool, this
is cool. But if something really scary.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Happened, what's the mix on that?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I just poured with my heart.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
So it's half and half.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, it's not that bad. Ohoo, it's like two shots
to whatever that was I was. I mean, it was
already up to the bottom of the label when I
got it.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
How much plot did you add?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay, I added another shot to the shot that was
in it, so it was two shots to whatever this
bottle was of.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh, I got you. So about two thirds of that
is vodka.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's spicy, but it's not like overpowering vodka spicy. That's
gonna be a silent killer tonight.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, it was last weekend. Well, no, I got that
fucking bottle for eight dollars and it.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Got me where I wanted to be. Eight eight dollars
bottle of vodka it.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Was, and you bought the big bottle. That's gonna probably
last me for the next two or three weekends. For
we'll see what twenty bucks?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Sure something like that. I didn't ask how much. I
didn't look how much it was. I just I recognized
the label and I grabbed it.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I told you it was on the bottle. It's a
bottom shelf vodka, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, bottom shelf.
Oh god. And then I'm gonna mix the bourbon with
the vodka. I'm gonna puke, so Zambies, I was just
going to do a time out for our shotout.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, let's do our shotout. Love, I will let you
take over this one. It is all you go.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So the shot out for this week's episode goes to.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I love Shane, are wonderful gentleman over at I should say,
used to be whiskey hell podcast?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Who brought you the political news that you did the.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Right way, the right way, the right way. The only
media that actually tells it like it, that tells them,
that tells the truth outside. If I had to say it,
chat out Aaron obviously, yeah, onundred percent.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh but there's actually more people who are like that.
Oh I don't know, uh, duchess, Aaron. I mean there's
there's at least three or four other podcasters in that group.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
We when I'm talking about like ones that we like
have known.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
For a while.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I just met Georgia a
couple months ago when he joined the chat, and then Duchess.
I've known her off and on for about a year,
but I don't know no, no her, I'm this is
the one that joined us on Big Nicks.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I think I met her through either Aaron or Mish.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
No, you met her because she she was.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
The uh Deadpool.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, she's on the shop.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
She's she's in the our Deadpool the show. That's right,
we'll shut out.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I want to be best friends with her because I
assumentally like her too. Anyway, back back to what I
was saying, uh.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
To not whiskey hell hell anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
But so those guys, and I had to say it,
those are your political guys. Like if you want to
know what the right's doing and want to know what
the left's doing, you don't agree with either one of them,
you're straight in the middle. Like they'll they'll tell you
how it is for both sides, like the left stupid,
the right stupid.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like if you think they're both retarded, then you would
love Hot Diggity Dog. If we got a podcast for you,
you gotta check out these two shows.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Dad the Beast knees, tell you.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
What I got. I got a knuckle in my pocket.
Gad watching that ED game thing like that music is
in my head now, yeah, I know. You gotta check
out this new show Fredd. It really cooks.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh it does? It does. So they are, according to
their Twitter, they are going to stop like playing around
and they are really going to bring you the news
like they are digging deep. They are getting like ripping
apart everything to actually bring you the fucking truth. They are.

(12:17):
They are true journalists in this aspect of podcasting. Like
that's that's kind of the way I see it. And
instead of the shot out to whiskey hell, our shot
out this week goes to the razor wire, the razor's edge.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
All right, that's that's a wrestling mood. Shout out Scott Hall.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
So the.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
All right, cheers up, Shout out Chico. Sorry, I'm still
stuck in raz This.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Is gonna suck so bad. Love you guys.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It's just bobin.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Whoa.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's supposed to be good barba, but I hurt.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Oh God damn it.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'm gonna chase it with a beer.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I got goosebumps. Is that mean I'm getting older kid
new shots anymore?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Hey, you're the one that wanted to bring the shot
out a little back, so.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I thought it would be a good idea. I need
I need better shots.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, while while you're trying to recover again, Hey, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Put tomato juice in the next one for you are
Big Nick, and you you can go up again for
Big Nick because you Big Nick.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I love you, Big Nick.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
You're wrong about Metallica, but other.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Than that, I love you.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Wait he what he doesn't like Metallica?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That changes nothing for you? Well, like, maybe it.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Changes a little bit for.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Me two percent? That changes two percent. He has a
little bit more like respect.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Your opinions mean nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
No, his opinions mean dog shit.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
See except for the Metallica. Nope, your opinion means dog shit.
So zombie, I'm sorry that you don't have tastes in music?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Do have taste in music? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
You're silly. Put your eyes back in your head. They're
gonna fall out.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I mean easy, it might have fixed it. Oh my god,
I need a baby.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
What is it about the uh? In the horror movie genre,
zombies specifically, since that's what we're talking about this week.
What is it that? What is it that really like
draws you in and it's like, man, this is actually
seeing what it could be like to live in this
world seems really interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So depending on which So I really wanted to break
this down, but.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
We'll get into that. I know where you're going with.
We'll get into that in a second. On what kind
of zombies do you hope we get We've done this
episode already before a while ago.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
We did a long time ago. But the thing is, though,
is depending on the type of zombies, like what's going down?
So I love, love, love the walking dead type, the
slow moving well, it's it's post apocalyptic. Yeah, the world

(15:25):
has gone to shit. You have to do whatever you
can to survive. It's the zombies. Yes they move slow,
but once they get a hold of you, that's a
death grip.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Does it? See? And I agree with you on the
slow moving part. But for me, it's what I like
most about that is if this was a real world scenario,
I feel like that's what it would be. Because if
you look back to what when Edgar Wright was doing
Shown of the Dead, do you remember what.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
He said, I should know.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I might know. He said that when you're when your
body is in decay, that doesn't give you superhuman abilities, right,
like speed and adrenaline.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
But you have to realize though that if it is
their last meal, they're gonna give it everything they've got.
Think about think about the predators in in Africa, right,
the cheetahs, lions, jaguars, the leopards that like, like you
have just an it's right, it's an ounce of energy.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Just right.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Put it this way, butt night, hot night. Okay, it's
three point thirty in the morning. It's wrapped around the
building and there's fourteen groups of six to ten people left. Right,
you are running on absolutely.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Dog piss, but your muscle tissue is not decaying.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
It is at that point.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well, no, when you're dead, I know, but when your.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Bodies know at like you've gone all night in the
haunted house industry, you've given it everything. You've got to
give everybody a great show, and it's that one final
push to get them the fuck out so you can
go Yeah, exactly. But that's kind of the way I
feel like when those types of the slow moving zombies

(17:17):
attack you, it's one final yeah, nutrients one final like
this is I have to I have to do.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, I see what you're saying. I'm talking about. It's
not you wouldn't be like if your body is in decay,
you're you're actually dead. You don't have Look at bicycle girl.
Uh yeah, well she was half of a person.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I know, but look at bicycle Girl. Yeah, she literally
was completely fucking gone.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
The only thing that was Lieutenant Dan you have no
leg right, but she she was just a skeleton and
her skin was like on the and she had nothing left. Yeah,
but she was still trying to get that nutrients. Those
she was just trying.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
But if if Walking Dead was set, let's say World
War Z or.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Twenty eight right, twenty eight franchise, right, she would be
like lifting up her arms and like crawling like that.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Because she's not a full like she doesn't have the
blood circular not the blood, but she doesn't have that
power behind her.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right, But they would probably make them that way for something.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, they wouldn't know. But because you got to remember
that World War Z zombies are virus zombies, and twenty
eight yeah is virus zombies, which we'll get into that minute.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, virus virus and dying and then coming back to
life or that's two different things, right, But I.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Love the post apocalyptic, like I'm all about like back
to the frontier, Like I'm all about shut all of
the electronics off. Yeah, we're gonna live by candlelight. You
have to survive off of whatever food you can find.
Like that is I am all about that life?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, you know on that. That's what I loved about.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
What what Georgi Romero gave us. He kind of gave
us the best of both worlds and that if you
think about it, look at Land of the Dead. There
was still a city, a utopia with electricity, all of
this stuff, but you had the zombies that were still
slow moving. The world around them was.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Until they saw a life and right they saw a human,
then they went, let's go right, this is this is
like we need food.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Or Dawn of the Dead. There where they were living
in a mall that was still like the power grid
was there was still electricity and running water and plumbing.
But then you go into the Walking Dead none of that.
There is nothing unless you get to Alexandria. Then they
somehow had solar panels, which makes sense. Oh that's how
they powered that up.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Trust me, trust me? Like that is on the top
of my apocalyptic checklist. Panels, yep, guess on my way
home from work there is a field of solar panels.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
There's that one that's just right before you get to Cordon.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Oh no, there's one here in Kentucky. You don't have
to cross the phone. I know.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm sure there's one out there too, that's the one.
I know about that, but I know, no, I know, yeah,
off sixty four. Yeah, I've seen that before.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
We're taking those oh yeah, them bitches. But no, I
really like the Walking Dead universe, like they I feel
like those type of zombies. They made it real, like,
yes you can get around them, Yes you can fight them,
Yes you can kill them, like it's not that hard.
But if you find that one walker that has the

(20:44):
strength and power can overtake you, because they want that,
they want to eat you.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah. You know what I love about uh, George Romero's
Land of the Dead, the zombies and that they still
had a little bit of that, like their human instinct.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
They did no skyflowers.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's I think that's why that's my favorite Romero film,
is it really?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It is my number one. I love Land.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Of the Dead.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
What is the Batista one?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh? Fuck with? Did Zack Snyder directed?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yes, god dam that's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Army of the Dead. Yes, thank you, Army of the Dead.
I like that.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, I loved that one.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
It was very Romero. It was well yeah he did
yeah that yeah, two, four, three or four.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
It was something like because I love that one and
Angie that was our date night.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
But what I liked about are uh tell me nope,
army yes, yeah, Army of the Dead. Zack Snyder went
in Vegas way.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
That they actually like made them human to like.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
They created some sort of like uh hierarchy. Yes, there
was a king and a queen and then everybody else
I love that had.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Like a captain and a chief and like they had
the tears.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was almost like a zombie game, sort of an indigenous.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Tribe zombie game of Thrones sort of.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, but it was only Las Vegas was the only
city affected, right, everybody else was fine, Sorry.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Hey no dude, Ajud, We're coming.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
But no, like I but they were also those zombies
were also I feel like slightly had like rage a
little bit. Yeah, they were resident evil or twenty eight
days later or World War.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Z a little bit. Yeah, And if you think about
it though, there's a little bit of silent hill in
there too. When there's no light on them. They they
they slept unless you made noise. Do you remember when
they were walking through the kitchen, that the kitchen scene
in that one casino. They were all standing there with

(23:04):
their eyes closed. They were dead asleep, and then that
one guy like dropped like almost like the pan drop
in Jurassic Park. That that attracted the raptors and then
they all woke up. Yeah, fucking Spence. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Not a scream to suspense, but it was still good.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
It was. It was in I'll put it in the
arena for that. I think. I think that scene challenges
the scream two things for me. It knows anyway.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Do you know what I mean when Brad Pitt, Yeah,
that one when he was injecting himself with diseases that
were curable. Yes, that one was suspenseful.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's fine. Yeah, I don't know if you guys, Pa,
I let's talk about war warse a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
We can. We can totally talk about war.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Created by created by God himself. Mel Brooks this sign
Max Brooks.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well he's a demi god because mel Brooks is a god.
His son's a demi god. Yeah, Like I really wish
they would have come out.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
With mel Brooks's god. Max Brooks is Jesus. Obviously. Have
you read the fucking Bible except this one? This one's real,
this one's cool. What was he? And he wrote a book?
He wrote a Bible about how.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
To survived, wrote the couple of them.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
He wrote World WARSZ. He wrote how to Survive the
Zombie Apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
To really I want that book. I really want that book.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You know what, even if I never read them, I
just want to say that, yes, I will read them. Yeah,
but like I just want to at least say, oh,
there I have it.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I have that. Oh here's a zombie apocalypse. How do
we survive?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Shout out Max Brooks one of the great authors.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
So good, but I mean you can so because zombies
went really big and like, so you had the vampires
in like mid nineties to late nineties.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, oh the craze, craze. Yeah, I'm
getting I see where you're going with.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
You had the werewolves in.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
The shout out Dracula two thousand.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
You know what, can I go? Can I with your permission,
I would like to go ahead and say that that's
gonna be one of our episodes for tapermou Tear next year.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
If it's not, I'm gonna be disappointed.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Dracula two thousand, Oh yeah, just that one we can
talk about. Shout out Dracula two thousand. You had like
fucking Gerard Butler.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Jesus Christ. That was such a bad movie.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
And who was the singer's She was popular in the nineties.
She did the sex scene where they're floating through the
air and on the ceiling in the bedroom. Remember, I'll
have to look it up. And then when I say
you're like, oh yeah, oh yeah, because you've sang some
of her songs before, Nope, no, oh not at karaoke,

(25:52):
just like around the house.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Do you remember what?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Ok, just keep talking and I'm going to find it.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
So in the mid eighties to late eighties you were wolves,
well kind of the early nineties. Then when Interview with
a Vampire came out, it was all fucking vampires. I
mean you had like lost Boys. I don't know what
year that came out, but then it was a vampire craze.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Vitamin c oh as we yep. I know. I know
people listening to this right now are like, that's fine,
Say that's fucking god damn it, Say.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
I forgot about that. We haven't watched that in like
a year. But yeah, but no, you had the she.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Fucked Gerard Butler.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Gerard Butler's a bad singer. I hate him.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
He's not a singer, He's an actor. Gerard Butler.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, he also played fantomin Fans with the opportunity want
to open that can of worms right now?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I forgot about that. It should have been Patrick Wilson.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yes, I know, Patrick Wilson should have been the fucking Phantom.
They put a bar tone in Phantom's place. So zombies,
God damn it, you open this can of worms.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
This is your fault. You should not have done that.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Patrick, Way, did you know that Vigo Mortenson.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Shut?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Did you know that Vego Worts?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I'm pretty sure everybody in the world knows that. You
should ask our Son. He should know this anyway. So
where was I? Oh, yeah, the werewolf vampire. And then
like I want to say, like ninety eight ninety nine
is kind of like the intro, like everybody knew about zombies,
like was.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
There a war, There wasn't a werewolf craze? Oh yeah,
eighties No, and then no, I knew that in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It was like they kind of like bleed over.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Eighties, eighties had eighties had were wolves. Yeah, it was nineties,
had vampires in London.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh, nineties actually had were wolves because it was American
werewolf and parents or Paris.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Late nineties going into the two thousands had mummies shut
up and fra.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
There was also mummies. But the zombie craze really exploded
in like two thousand and two to two thousand and six. Yeah,
and it just like, ooh, zombies, even though we knew
like Georgia Marrow made Donna the Dead back in the
early or not Donna the Dead Night of the Living Dead.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Sorry, uh huh that ooh you almost you almost started
a fight.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
That movie bores me. I do not like that movie.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm sorry, guys, but let me ask you this. Do
you at least appreciate it for what it was and
what it did for the horror genre to an extent, Yes,
it did a lot. It created a whole new subgenre.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yes, and they I love the way that they made
the main character.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
You don't like it, but you respect it.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I respect it.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yes, Okay, that's settled down. Settle down, everybody calm that
she's It's okay.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But I do, I do.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I do nineteen sixty eight, by the way, thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I do like Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Love seventy eight the Dead.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yes, anything in the seventy between seventy eight and eighty four,
fucking love those horror movies. Well, anything after seventy eight
is great.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I would love to do an episode on seventies seventies horror.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's my favorite head.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
All right, that's another episode for tap Room of Terror
next year.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's my favorite head. If I could go back to
any year in the seventies, seven, seventy eight, seventies horror
or eighties horror. Seventies and eighties, we can put it.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
No, no, pick one.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
If you had to choose seventy five to eighty five,
No seventies or seventy five to eighty five, don't tell
me what I won't.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
You can't say both.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I just did.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You can't know.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Okay, we'll come back to that. But anyway, so remember
is God Tear seventy eight The Dead fantastic, fucking I
love it. I love the fact that like and I
hate Tom.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Savini because he actually is not a nice person. He
is very not He's really small, yes he is. I
didn't know until we saw him at horror Fest.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Diamond, but he uh, he's a little man. But props
to him for creating effects that people didn't like. They what,
how are we gonna do a throat rip? He's like,
I got you like he he paved the path for
special effects makeup artists. But Dawn of the Dead was

(30:39):
it was really really good. Yes, a lot of those
zombie movies are kind of slow. You just got to
hang in there. They're not as action packed. But I
think that people today are expecting action packed like they are, Oh,
zombie around the corner. Oh they're gonna rip my face off,
zombie around this corner. Oh they're gonna my throat out, zombie.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
And I think movies like rest An Evil and The
Twenty eight Weeks Days Years kind of spoiled that for
a lot of people. They do because those came out,
and then people get into the Walking Dead where that's
more of like the slow paced Romero esque And that's
why a lot of people are like, well, there's no
zombies in it, but yeah, you got to understand, dude, Yes,

(31:19):
this is a zombie show, but the focal point of
this is supposed to be about surviving that world. Ye,
and I don't think that a lot of people could
grasp that not having I guess, so again being spoiled
by stuff like Resident Evil where it's like zombies fight

(31:41):
go from start to finish.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, but that's because they're mutated. They're not like right,
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and bring it
back just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
So the modern zombie originated in Haitian voodoo. It's a
practice rooted in African spiritual beliefs about souls and afterlife,
where a sorcerer or a book or could reanimate a
corpse to be a mindless slave. The term zombie itself
comes from the Congo word zombie, meaning soul or god.

(32:19):
This concept was popularized in the US through journalism and
films like Magic Island nineteen twenty nine and White Zombie
nineteen thirty two.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Good Job, that's one of my favorite classic like black
and white horror movies I love, And have you ever
seen White Zombie, I have not. It is basically everything
you just said. Yeah, it's the Haitian Haitian VOODOOEP bringing
the dead back to life and all that. It's a

(32:50):
beautifully done movie.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Distorted original idea into a fearful image of black magic.
So the modern flesh eating, infectious zombie archetype was later
developed by Romero in nineteen sixty eight and I the
Living Dead, transforming the concept into the iconic pop culture
horror figure we know today. So a lot of the

(33:13):
zombies the original zombies was Haitian voodoo YEP African roots
Haitian culture, early twentieth century.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
White Zombie is a really odd film.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I mean I would have to be sober and I
would have to be able to pay attention with no distraction.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Honestly, it's a pretty solid, like this time of year film.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Well let's see if we can find it.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
It's really it's it's it's unique.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, And I love like old school like Witchcraft, who
do It's.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
On toob But I think Jase has a copy of it.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I believe, I wouldn't doubt it. But I love like
old school, not old school, but like I love old
school movies. But I love the fact that this really
happened and it was told through tales and it just
got progressively worse and worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, I mean, look, what do you mean worse and worse?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Like not worse in a bad way, but like they
made the zombies like unkillable.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Uh more, superhuman more exactly exactly. That goes back to
my point about what Edgar Wright his quote about them,
you're you're you're dead, your body is in decay, You're
you're rotting, you're choisting away.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
What kind of zombie though, Yeah, you have to you
have to put that into your mind of what kind
of zombie are we talking about? Are you If.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
They're chemically and if they're scientifically bred right so quote unquote,
then yes, that would make more sense. But but if
you die and then come back to life of an illness?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
What about outbreak Outbreak outbreak outbreak Gwyneth Paltrow, Oh.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
The COVID movie, the COVID before COVID movie from it
was a great movie.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
That was rats, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
No, it was mats, bats and monkeys, that's right, it
was bats and monkeys who were infected.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I saw that movie the one time, but you're welcome,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
But like it depends, like that's that's the thing is
what kind of zombies? So if you, knowing your knowledge
of zombies, if you had to pick a zombie like
an apocalypse or a zombie attack or whatever, what zombies

(35:48):
would you want? What zombies would you say, I'm gonna
kill myself right like you're done.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I would want the slow moving, limping, living run the
Romero verse, walking Dead original Romero.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, not like the revitalized because they keep getting smarter
and twenty eight days later types of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
That's the cool thing about what Romero did with zombies
is he gave you different versions. They never had like
superhuman speed or could run with great agility until later.
Well Zack Snyder kind of flipped that, But I'm talking
about just specifically George Romero, the King, the Godfather, shout

(36:34):
out god r ip.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yes we should have named Gonna Romero.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
His his versions of zombies.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Uh what That's what I liked about his style is
you got, you had a chance, you get you had
a fighting chance. But they also to a point had
also had a fighting They they didn't have abilities, they
still had a little bit of themselves.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
They were also sneaky in stalkers. Yeah, like they could
sneak up on you and be like, h you don't
see me behind this tree?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
They that's yeah, That's one of the things I loved
about his zombies is they still had like a little
like one percent of then themselves. If you go back
like we were talking about in Land of the Dead,
they still uh the gas the gas station at the
Black Black Uh large, Yeah, he still understood. Hey, I'm

(37:33):
I work at a gas station. Take the gas pump
out and I'm pumping. I'm just squirting gas. Even if
it's just I take the pump out and squirt it
onto the ground. In my head, that's what I was.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
There's still human esque.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And uh that scene where he looks at the butcher zombie,
he says, hey, you have a meat cleaver in your hand,
chop this door to this wall down, this wooden plaque down.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
But there's still some humanity. Yeah, So what is the
zombie that you would not want to go up against?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Would be?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
The World Wars E film.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yep, twelve seconds absolutely, twelve seconds, yeah, twelve seconds. Yeah,
you get bit and twelve seconds later you're you either
do or don't, and you're you're basically the flash at
this point. Yeah, well, no cutting off whatever limb. Yeah,
and if you didn't get bit on a limb, then

(38:28):
there's no saying I.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Am glad that they all have the shoot them in
the head and they're dead rule still applies. Yes, destroy
the brain or sever the head, or destroy the brain.
That role has always been intact, and I like that.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Can I just say, I feel like zombie Land zombies
are kind of like in between. They're kind of in
between the slow moving I'm so glad.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
We're talking about that movie. It's just it's zombie Land.
It's great.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
The first one was great.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
They're both. I love them both. I love, oh my god,
the fucking opening sequences to those films, the first one
you got Metallica, Froom, the Ball, Oh my god. I
don't think those movies would have been as good if
it wasn't for Woody Harrelson, though I did like Jesse
Eisenberg and then very much.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
But Emma Stone did a good job.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
They all did. The whole cast was great, but it
was just something about Murray.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
It was something about Woody Harrelson leading the charge that was.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Like he wasn't a leader, Like he didn't want to
be the leader. He was like, hey, you want to survive,
you're gonna come with me. If you don't want to
come with me, that's cool. You don't have to.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
You will not discredit Tallahassee.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
With his Dale Earnhardt Hummer.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Them the choice. They were like, hey, do you want
to come with me, then you can survive.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
If not, get the fuck out love. Woody Harrelson really
like made those as good as they are to me.
He was for me. He was the box office draw.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
So what was your first zombie movie that you watched?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
My first zombie movie that I watched, I think it
was I think it was Day of the Dead from
nineteen eighty five. Really, yeah, and that's the one I've
I've seen that movie maybe twice, and I haven't seen
it since probably like ninety seven ninety six.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Mine was two thousand and four Dona the Dead Dawn. Yeah,
that was my first one. Yeah, And she was like, hey,
there's a cool zombie, scary movie. You want to go
with me?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
I'm like, uh, I saw that in theaters also, I
went by myself to see it in theaters.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Nice. Ye, it was. I really like, that is like
one of my top tier favorite zombie movies. I love it.
It was so great, Like I love the way that
they worked against and four like with each other.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
That is how a community. I feel if a zombie
apocalypse happened right now, it's got doctor Pratt. It does
shut up, it's got doctor Prett. He played Doctor Pratt
in that by the.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Way, Yeah, yeah, he's got Doctor Prett.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
But I feel like that is a literally like if
if we had a team of people during a zombie apocalypse,
that's what's gonna happen. You're gonna have a whoror you're
gonna have somebody who thinks they know everything. You got
somebody who's like, eh, I really don't want to be
the leader, but I kind of think like, this is
not gonna have you can't.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I don't think any group should have a leader. No,
nobody's really working together. Not everybody is working together. No,
it feels like one person is going to be like, well,
you do this, here's what we need to do, right,
here's what we have to do right. No, this will
this will work better. No, I'm right, you're wrong, right,
exactly exactly Everything in the group should be a mutual like, hey,

(41:52):
great idea, let's do that.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Okay, So what is your strengths?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Are you strong?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Go move that shit?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Smart? Figure out how to keep our walls reinforced.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Can you build stuff? Can you create blueprints to build
something to add on to this to reinforce?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Can you run it? You get us this?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Like?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Can you can you grow food? Can you kill food? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Are you? Can you doctor somebody? Are you can you?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah? Are you medical? How good are you at taking
care of weapons?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
To make sure that these guns last forever?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Can you make bullets to go with them?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I've if an apocalypse happens, I either want a Purge
apocalypse type thing or I want a zombie apocalypse type thing,
Like I don't want end of the world meteors like
exploding the world I don't want. I mean, that would
be kind of cool, but it would still be like
mad Max to me. Yeah, but I really would like

(42:48):
a zombie apocalypse. I think a zombie.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
And and I'm not gonna be one of those people
that says, oh, I'd live forever. I might not. I
might not, I might I might die the third day.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Right, I'm gonna say, I'm not gonna count myself out
dying the first day. Yeah, because you know, I could
be the person like walking to my car and be like, oh, hey,
what's up.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
You could go outside. I was born for this. I'll
lift forever, and then two seconds later you get you
get your Yeah, you get your wrist bit and you're dead.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Oh I'd cut that off, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Mean, but you know what I mean. I know it
can happen to anybody. Anyone's fair game. It's just how
smart can you be to get through this exactly as
long as you can, and to help help protect everybody
while they protect you as well.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Exactly. Yeah, you gotta protect.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
A living Everybody's got to work together, exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Unlike now nobody works together. Everybody works for themselves.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
That's your side, is fucking stupid. You know who you are.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I mine the zombies that I wish would be walking dead,
because I feel like it would be a challenge, but
also at the same time, we could overtake them.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
It would be easier, for sure, exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
The zombies that I don't want would be twenty eight
days later. Yeah, honestly, I or Z no well Z
but twenty eight days Later is almost in that same
realm of you have fluid on you and you have
an open cut. So say, hey, I literally fell off

(44:28):
the porch and cut my knee and the neighbor next
door is a zombie run over and they spit into
my knee. Done. Yeah, they spit into my eye, my mouth,
any kind of fluid exchange. You're done. It's like it,
you're done. I feel like twenty eight Days Later or
the twenty eight franchise, they are almost World War Z

(44:51):
type zombies. So I would say both those are the
ones that I don't resident evil zombies. Cool. I already
know I'm dead there.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, they're well, they're they're more like they somehow have
developed tentacles and can turn into giant monsters. That makes
no sense. It's a video games and that you have
to kill dogs now too.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
I couldn't do that. Be like, oh, puppy, Oh you're
a zombie. I can't kill you here.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
He's a boie.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Do you need a bad Oh?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
God, you're getting eaten. He's chewing on your head. You
still try to somehow with your with your fighting breath.
You're like, do you need a belly scratch. You're dying.
He's chewing on your insides and you're still like scratching
his belly. He's getting all who wants to Who wants
a cookie?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Take out over and throw it.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
You just have a bag of fingers?

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Who wants a cookie? Does he want a cookie? He's
a cool boy.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Those are just resident evil zombies are just fucking weird.
Like they they they made them so much worse than
they should have been.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
There's a scene in the first one that really sticks
out for me. Do you know when they get into uh,
oh my god, one of the his his sister worked
in the worked for Umbrella Corporation. When they're in like
the office. Do you know where I'm going with this?
Maybe okay? Uh? And she's she turned she was a zombie,

(46:18):
but you see just her in there. And when the
guy it's their brother and sister, and he knew his
sister worked for Umbrella in their office.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
That's why he is in there, is.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
To get around. He turns around in the camera pans
and it's just her standing there staring at him.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And you're like, oh, she's okay, He's gonna save her.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well, you could tell she's not okay.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, but he didn't.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
But yeah, he just saw, oh that's my sister and
then you Yeah. That that really sticks out.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
To me sometimes doing that thing is reminds me of
when we had the zombie shootout. Yeah, when I was
able to be the picture zombie. That was really fun.
Like I got to use a lot of my vocal
work and it was, Oh, it was fun. I do

(47:10):
enjoy doing zombie vocal work like that was a lot
of my Haunt vocal work was based off of zombies,
off of you know, twenty eight days later Donna the
Dead where they oh, like yeah, streams and shit. I

(47:31):
don't know why, but they're the zombies vocal work I love.
Also in Donna the Dead Romero's two thousand and four
Donna the Dead, the way that they also used amputees
uh huh. The one Asian guy who didn't have an
arm and he was like ah and like chasing after

(47:52):
somebody and didn't have an arm. The person who didn't
have any legs and was like crawling on the ground,
which was all create or no.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
He was on the on the ceiling where he was
like holding on to something and then dropped off and
jumped on that kid and was eating him and he
was like, oh, I gotta get goro and the legs
were like flopping around. It was that was cool.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Like, I love the.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Fact that they gave they gave people who had disabilities,
those of people who had limbs missing, like something cool
to do. But god damn World War Z E and
twenty eight days weeks months years later, just those zombies

(48:37):
are just fucking fuck. Those absolutely mortify me. Like and
there was uhlah blah blah. I can't remember, but there
was a haunted attraction around here that had that, and
I feel like that was probably uh oh it was Asylum.

(48:58):
It was Raccoon City. Yeah, that honestly was one of
my favorite haunted attractions because of the way that they
did the zombies. Like they made you cross that bridge
and there were zombies coming at you on the bridge
and then like you were running in a field, they
were coming at you. You ran through buildings and they

(49:21):
were coming at you like fuck, and they they they
were dead, they looked dead, but they were still moving
really fast and going to attack you. Like that was
the best immersive zombie experience.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
It was Pylum. Oh, it was amazing. Ah.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I again, I will state to this day, I fucking
hate zombies, like they are so over well they're not
overrated anymore as much as they were back then, but zombies,
I mean, they they really do. Like if I had that,
if I had someone walk up to me and like,

(49:59):
they're a zombie, and depending on how they were walking,
if they were slow moving like the crackheads on the
corner up here, I mean I could handle myself. But
if they were rage virus zombies like and screaming at
me and running full fucking force, I would probably ship
my pants and couldn't figure out what the fuck to

(50:19):
do because they would scare the ship out of me.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I told you what I said last night about this juice.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I know it's delicious.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
This with the beer.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I know that's where I'm at too. It hits yeah, twist,
but uh, twist, twist, twist.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
There's there's one zombie movie oh that. If you ask
me today do you want to watch this, I'm always
gonna say yeah, the Dead Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I mean we still the whole time, the whole like
the whole time, the whole probably whole time, the whole time. No,
we would we would literally again with Gunner as well,
because that was his favorite movie for a minute. Shure,
that's why he's my pickle. Yeah, but we would we
could quote the whole thing as we're watching it, Yeah,

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because we've watched it so many times. But it's still
like there's things every time that we can catch.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, oh god. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
And I love the uh the little like easter eggs.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, the little there's Romero easter eggs like just scattered.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Well that's that's yeah. They said that we're.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Coming to get you, Barbara, having to get you mob B.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah. So when you saw what was? Would you say
the first zombie movie you saw was the Zack Snyder
one O four? How did you so you had never
seen a zombie movie before until that day?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I don't think so, but yes, that's the first one
that I remember.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
How did you feel after you saw it? I actually
like what was going through your head? Like when when
the credits were rolling and you were leaving the theater.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Is anybody in this theater infected?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Like I was scared to go back to the car.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Did it do a little something to you? It?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Did? It really did? Like as Angie and I were
leaving the theater. She's like, yeah, God, that was so good.
That was so good in her anngie voice, and I
literally was like on on alert. I was like, God,
what if somebody is actually bit? What am I gonna
get bit? What if somebody gonna be that they gonna
show up?

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Oh like when we went to Thunder that one year
and and Jase goes, man, if the zombie apocalypse broke
out right now, that sucked. And then we heard the
gunshots and then there.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Was like a start running.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
There was like thousands of people running in the other direction,
and we're like, god, damn it.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Well, I mean anytime you get big, large groups and
crowds of people like that, well.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I said that two weeks ago, when Louder than Life
was happening, it was like, man happened. That'd be a
really shitty place for the zombie apocalypse to happen.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Really shitty place for Louisville to have that happen. One
hundred thousand people here.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I'm really glad that we're in the house where the
guns are.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Fuck that I'd be loading up everything we're going here.
I know there's guns.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I remember exactly what I what I did when I
got home from the theater after seeing The Four Dawn
of the Dead. Got home, I had to pee really
bad the whole drive. I would saw it at Tinseltown, right, so,
and you know that's like a twenty minute drive from
the theater to my parents' house where they live. I got,

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I pulled up in the driveway and I had to
leave in the theater. I had to pee really bad
as soon as I got in the car to go home.
So I stood outside by where Dad's shed is in
the yard. That shed wasn't there at the time, right,
but it was. It was like one o'clock in the morning,
uh huh. And I pee in the yard in the

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hall of Silent, and but it was so scary. I know,
I'm like looking around. I had a swivel on my head,
watched on my shoulders, watching.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
As many horror movies as we have. Yeah, when everything
goes silent, including crickets, birds.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
You still have that in the back of your head.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
No, it's when everything goes silent that means something is
about to go down because they can sense it. And
when animals sense something, there's something.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I still get that a little bit of that feeling
every morning when I go to walk to my if
I have to park down there to go to my
car in the morning, when I'm leaving for work, I'm
still looking around, like up and down the street like
a fuck.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I feel like that you're gonna get is like a
meth head. I might get shot asking for change, yeah,
or I get jumped. That's the main thing as I'm
scared I'm going to get jumped, which is I'm fine
with parking down.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
There, yea, if I have it's daylight when you leave,
kind of it more than me?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, more than you.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yes, it's like that outside when I leave.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
But I there's something about zombies.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
That it really draws you in.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I mean I love them, like I want to learn more.
But again it's based off of the different types of
zombies like slow moving, fast moving, rage virus, medical induced zombies,
Like there's different types of zombies. But it's like how
how how does their brains work? Like their cerebral cortex,

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Like how how how is this working?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Well? The in the uh season finale of season one
of The Walking Dead, that's explained.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Yes, yes it is.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I'm just saying yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
It was released.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Doctor Brenner told us, Yep, he.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Did but we didn't hear it because he whispered it.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Doctor Jenner. Sorry, Yeah, well he was telling Rick. He
showed the whole video. Everybody's infected, that's what was whispered. Yep,
everybody has it.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Everybody has it.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
It's just when you die, that's when it kicks in.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
As long as you're alive, you're fine.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
So does that mean that even if a zombie bites you,
you could still be alive. It's just how bad of
a bite is it? Is it going to kill you
to get you to that point of a zombie?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yes, but look at herschel.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yes, he got bit.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
You have to you have if you get bit on
a limb.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
But I have to.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
But if you already have the virus. But say I
got bit on my big.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Toe, he didn't die.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Hold on if I got bit on my big toe. Yeah,
it doesn't matter. There's no infection there. Let's let's clean
it every day, we disinfect it.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
There's there's no no virus, no once the because the.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
But he said everybody is infected because we've breathed it. Yeah, yes,
I know we've all breathed it. Yeah, but if I
got bit by a zombie on my big toe. I'm
not dying.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Just cut the toe off.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yes, but my big toe I've been bit. Yeah, I'm
not going to die because the zombie bit my big toe.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
If you don't cut the toe off, you will.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
But does that mean their spit is going to and
to cause me to die?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
But I thought we were just infected because we breathed it.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
It's a hint. You've got some of it.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
It It amplifies it.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
The bite amplifies it.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I guess I just I don't get it because if
I like, okay, finger, Yeah, I got bit on my
on my finger right here by the first knuckle.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And oh I they bit my finger. Does that mean
their saliva is going to cause me to change?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Even though I.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Breathed slower, but I breathed it because if you remember,
there is an episode of Walking Dead where they said
it could take up to eight hours. Look at Carl.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah, but his was on his ribs though that that's immediate.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
It was on his chest.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
That was immediate infection though.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, it was right here.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, but they could have disinfected it and saved him. No,
it was by Brenner's rules.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Maybe I have to go back. I have to go
back and watch it.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
It's by Brenner, doctor Brenner's rules of everybody's infected, but
you don't. You don't turn to a zombie until you die. Yeah,
that's when it takes effect.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, you have to die exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
But but if you got bit, you're infected, according to
doctor Brenner. But doctor Brenner might have been wrong.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It was a theory. A theory is a theory. Yeah,
a theory is an assumption. Plus, think about this, viruses evolve.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
They do so.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Too.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
They tell you not to take a lot of antibiotics.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Doctor Brenner probably didn't take that into account.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yeah, doctor Brenner was just going by his This is
how it is now right in eight years, it's different,
it's evolved.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
He's stronger. Yeah, he killed hisself.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Walking Dead is the best zombie fucking show ever.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Well, next to World Wars, it's the only walking It's
the only Black Summer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Fucking black Summer. We need season three. God damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
At this point, it no, actually that's we're not getting it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I know we're not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
It's over. It was as the rain, Black Summer and
World War Z are in the same universe. It's the
same show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
And the rain.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
I forgot about the rain.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
We were watching the rain.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
If it rains on you, you get the virus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Stay dry.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah, we were watching the rain.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Go in a building and you're fine, so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
We I forgot about the rain.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Lived at the hotel that I worked at because I
was the only manager.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Wasn't that a train of Bassan? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
No, the rain was German?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Okay? Yep? Well still Train of Bassan trained Basan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Oh. That is probably my favorite zombie movie ever.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
It has a very not chill ending.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I don't like it. Don't as a parent, don't spoil it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
As a parent. I'm not okay with this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
It's not good, but it's it's been out long.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
It's been out long enough. If you haven't seen it
by now, that's your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
That's a good movie. It's such a good movie. Please,
if you have not watched Training Bison, watch Trains.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
If you haven't seen it at this point, you that's
your that's a choice you made.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
I would work seven am to seven pm and then
come back up to the room and we would get
toasted and watch movies. So we couldn't figure out a
new show or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
To watch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I was like, hey, let's try the rain. First season
of the Rain was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Only season of rain.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Now, yeah, we watched the second one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Oh yeah we did.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
The second one wasn't as it was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
It sucked. Season two that's yeah, it's not memorable. It's
dog shit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
But first season was. If they would have carried on
with season one the way they did, like yeah it
season two, it would have been great.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
But in other shows it's usually the opposite of that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
The Rain is such like first season great, fantastic. Oh
my god, I loved it. Like Dad sacrificed himself, he
like covered his kids and he was like, oh, I
get out of here, and then he turned. Oh it
was so good. Oh, like they shot chemicals into the sky,
which caused them to turn to zombies. Oh, such a

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good movie. Oh my god, it's such a good show.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
We're a poncho and you're fine.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, you're good. Just get an umbrella, no skin showing
you're good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Just don't get wet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
That's like me at Renfair when it rains, Yeah, umbrella
or the sun the sun. Yeah, but no I zombies.
Zombies are a love hate relationship for me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah, you hate to create them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
But you have to watch them depending. I'm very picky
on my zombies, like to watch him if I had
the time and the resources to make zombies and I
had the right performer to perform as a zombie.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I've had a lot of people that I did badass
makeup on, not me, and they were just like, yeah,
like you gotta get you gotta get the vocals and
and the look like dead eyes like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Andy Cirkus has never played a zombie, and I'm not
okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
No, he needs to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
He really should.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
He should have played the King and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
You would just do Gollum's voice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
He should have played No, he should have played played
the King, and yeah, he would have been a good,
good choice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Andy serkis God.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
We should have told him that when we met him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Well, no, that was are you going to be a zombie? Ever?
You should?

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
You should have been the King?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
You should have been You should play a zombie? Have
you ever thought about it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Should? And his sweet British voice. I would love to
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I would love to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Thank you so much. You such such great people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
But he's blessing us with another Gollum and he's coming
back as Alfred Pennyworths in two years on this day,
in two years, two years in today, in two years
twenty twenty seven, on this day, the Batman two comes
out on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Sure, okay, but no zombies again. I love to hate
him hate love him. I'm very picky on my zombies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
I really, really.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Really am picky on my zombies. Like, I, uh, what's
the one with uh Adam and Bill Murray and Adam Driver.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yeah, the dead don't Die.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Dead don't die? Okay, it is ridiculous, but Dead Don't
Die is so fun, so fun. Tilda Swinson is uh kill.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Bill basically she is. She's basically the bride.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
She is the Bride.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
She's a mortician slash ninja samurai.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
She is a badass.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Such an absolutely fucking ridiculous but it's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
And I think, what's your name, Selena Gomez? I don't know,
isn't and I think that's who that is?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Maybe, But it's it's like a zombie Land, but more
dribe and funnier.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
It's insanely and it's got Tom Waits.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
It does to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Who. When I first saw his appearance and when we
watched the first time, I thought is that feral Nope,
because it looked like it looked like when when he
is shoe fucking Tom Waits that man. I loved him

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the most in Mystery Man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
I still have to watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
You've ever seen Mystery Man with Ben Stiller? Dank Cook it,
Dank Cook is in it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
That's one of Jayce's favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I love mystery Man. It's so dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
We should do that For's birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Mystery Man half him on the show for.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
It, mystery Man. For the show and his birthday, I
will dress up as something uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Whoever? She and Hank is area Yes with throwing silverware.
All Star cast, All Star cast.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Morgan great cast.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Was jeffre Didine Morgan in that. He was in the Watchman.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Oh I thought he was in the No, he was
the comedian and Watchman Zack Snyder movie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
His first superhero fan.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
It was Ben Stiller got me excited for Tom Waits.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Tom Waits and Jeffery. They should do a movie together,
Tom Waits and Jeffery. They should play brothers. Yes, but
it's like a buddy comedy. It's like it's like well drunks,
it's like step brothers. But Tom Waits and Jefferdine Morgan
would be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
On a Saturday night in October. Just get drunk and
be stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
You're Jefferdine Morgan. He's Tom Waits, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Absolutely, I'm the better looking of the two.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Hey, Tom Waits is a handsome fella.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
So you saying my brother is a handsome fellow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I like him, Jay s you're a handsome fella. I
love you brother, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Gay, all right, gay? I mean I already heard that paint.
Literally all of the female friends female I use quotes
female friends in high school were like, Oh, you're my friend,
how's your brother doing? How's that? How's that unk?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
A man? And that one dinosaur you worked with? Oh?
Whatever her name was, I don't know. Oh, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Remember city source res Yes, that one, that one. Yeah,
I don't talk to her anymore. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
No one cares.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
But zombies, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I just felt the couch break under me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I just say, also, ship your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
That wasn't a ship, that that was like something of
the couch. I just sank a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I thought, you shit your ass. So zombies, let's finish.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
This out right now so we can go watch SmackDown. Yes, please,
Important things are happening on SmackDown tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Do you oh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Oh zombies?

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Uh Louisville Return of the Living Dead?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Yeah, that was filmed here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
It was literally filmed like right there, brain.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Well some of it was, yeah, like the rest of
it was filmed in Cave Hill Cemetery.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
But it's still in Louisville.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Yeah, like it's still in louis Brain.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Nineteen eighty five's Return of the Living Dead was filmed
here in Louisville. Kind of cool, kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Do you ever finish size about just being eaten alive?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I don't. That's weird. That's a weird thing to put
out into the universe for you to say, that's kind
of Nope. I don't ever. Nope, I do, And I'm
gonna dead snaked. Well, you're fugly, so I agree. I
would expect someone like you to do this. It was
what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
It was gross? What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yep? Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
But no, fuck you and your reddish orange hair.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
What would be like, what would be the worst zombie
death for me? For you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
You know, uh David and Shanna the Dead?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Yeah, that where your stomach is ripped open.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
And I'm still alive watching yep, yeah, yep, by dozens
of them, ye all at one ripping.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Your limbs off while you're still so. By the way,
if you guys don't know Shana, the Dead also has
extra scenes to where you can follow like what happened
to each character after certain things happened. That was fun?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, that was pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
So I grabbed David's leg and climbed up a tree
and beat all zombies with it. I that's I fucking
love it. I love it. But I agree with you,
Like if I like they grabbed my belly button and
ripped my stomach open, I would just be like, fuck me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Or I have a second one, okay, the way that
Carl and Walking.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Dead where there's no way to save you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
And you just on your torso just succumb to the poison,
let it go, just accept it for what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
But I think once I got he got further than
I would because at that point I'm like, I can't breathe,
I'm about.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
To I got, I got bit, this is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I love you. I would just nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Would you if put yourself in carl shoes?

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Would you rather kill yourself or have like me or
gonna one of us do it for.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
You, depending on how far you wanted me to go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Well, I know you you wouldn't hide it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
No, I'll be hey, guys, look at this, I got bit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
I mean I know you would. What would you want
to happen? Would you want to try to go as
long as you could? Or just say, look I got bit,
I'm gonna die. Just do me now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I would want to go as long as I could
so I could say my goodbyes to everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
At least get far enough to say your good byes
and then go like how Carl did it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
That's I think I would. I would do that too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
I would want to see Gunner as long as I
possibly could. Yeah, I would want to hold him intil
my last breath.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Fuck me right, No, I'm kidding with you. I know
I'm making a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I know, but I want I've already told you, yea,
I know if a zombie apocalypse ever happens, anything happens
to me and I cannot continue, I get to that
point where I'm about to I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Where you're going to croak out?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, because if I can't do it myself. I but
you know I'm stubborn, and I would say, give me
the gun, leave me. I'm going to do it myself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Would you rather do it yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Yes? Okay, because I don't want. I don't want you
to have to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I would do it. No for me. Don't take this
from me, you stupid bitch. Fuck the bathroom. You're you're
sick and weak. I'll just take it from you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
And no, but I would. I wouldn't want anyone to
do it unless I got to that point to where
I'm like, Hey, would you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Want to be like Carl was and be alone? Or
would you want like me and Gunner in the room
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
No, because I don't want anybody to see me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Sit outside the door and just when you hear the gunshot,
then come in and do what you gotta do. I
think same.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
I would let I would let you and him decide.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
You can be in here if you want. No, I would,
but you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
No. I want to be with you until your final.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Until do you want to watch me shoot myself or
do you want to go sit outside and wait?

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
You want me to end it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
On your last breath? I would be the one to
do it, but if you want to watch me do it,
that's on you. If you don't, you don't have to
want to be there for Oh well yeah, okay, So
you want to watch me kill myself, you or at
least not in a macabre way, you would like turn
your back and let me do it, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Would watch because I want to be there for your
final breath.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
I would either do that or I would just give
you a knife and say you know where to stick this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Go ahead, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Yeah, and if you don't want to, then let I
don't do it. As long as it's one of you
that does it, I would, though I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I wouldn't want to put him through it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Yeah, well, I would let he can make that choice.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I would let him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I would if he wants to, as long as
it's one. I don't care who does it, Just do it.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Strategic move though, or.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
If you want to lock me in the shed and
give me a PlayStation, that's fine too. I'm happy with
with with the Edred. I'm happy with the ed Rod.
You know that's mom. He wants this all right, fine,
do it. Go play Xbox with your dad and I'm
in there, player too has entered the game. IM it's

(01:15:22):
in this scenario Gunner as Sean and I'm ed. Or
it's or it's Jace, me and Jason there, I'm dead. No,
if Jace would clearly die first, but I would go,
I'm going in our shed. Jason's in there, and we're
just gonna watch Dumb and Dumber together. He's gonna sit there,
chained up, and I'm sitting there with him, like, I

(01:15:44):
bring my cooler in there, and I'm drinking beers and
I put on Dumb and Dumber.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I think it would make And I I hate to
say this, but if you turned, if you got bit, yeah,
and you were at the last leg of it, right,
and you said, hey, this is it. I'm about to turn.
I'm about to die. Somebody do it just for the

(01:16:10):
sake of I know. I could do it to release you, Yeah,
but as the mother instinct of mine, I would put
the gun in his hand and say, sometimes you have
to do hard shit. Yeah, to give him that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
It's like what Rick said to Carl in season two
when they and the worn't it's time to put kid
things away.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
That's that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Even though he was like nine fucking rick.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Yeah, but in that world it's rich, smart though.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Yeah, this is a different world, Walking Dead. Is it
showed you the most realistic version of just of.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
That world exactly, And that is the world that I
really want. Because they gave you a chance to survive. Yeah,
it's how intelligent, how smart, how knowledgeable you are? Yeah
to carry that too, like, can you survive?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
That's what I liked about it is it gave you
you a if this really happened, this is probably I'm
not saying, so if a zombie apocalyst happened, this is
like what it will happen. We're not saying it will
be this way, but what we're saying is this is
probably what it's gonna look like. Yep, this is shout

(01:17:35):
out Robert Kirkman, who we haven't shout who created the
whole fucking thing. We haven't shot uh Kentucky boy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yeah, cheers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
But that's that's what I loved about The Walking Dead
the most was it was how real if it happened.
This is probably the closest we can explain to you
of how this would go down. Yeah, it's probably going
to be this one. Your your your best friend, your
brother is going to try to kill you. Don't fucking

(01:18:11):
trust if they're alive, you don't trust them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
But you also have to watch your back, not only
for humans and zombies at the same time. Yeah, three questions.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
If it happened and I see Jefferdine Morgan, I'm like,
ah fuck, and he'll be like, no, dude, it's it's nope, nope,
I'm not doing Could you imagine it actually happens and
you're traveling all over the country trying to find sanctuary
and you just happen to run into Jeffredine Morgan. I'm going, ah,

(01:18:45):
man a fuck, Yeah, I know what. Uh ah no,
you're not getting me boy, put it up, put it away.
Immediately you see Jefferdine Morgan, I know what you do.

(01:19:06):
I think I am.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I think I Meagan. I'm Nagan.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
I am Nagan. I please don't hurt me. I'm Nagan.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Oh God.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
You start to cry and he's going, hey, hey man,
I'm just trying to survive like you. He a friend,
and then you help him build the sanctuary. He actually
becomes Meagan us like, hey, look who's on our team.
Fuck you guys. And then Andrew Lincoln is like sitting
out there like, oh, man, come let's go. You see

(01:19:40):
like you see like the Castle of the walking down up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
You're like, oh, I take them all, Like fuck, give
me Carol, Carol, Carol and Maggie are my bff, both
of them. We are right or die, baby, right or die.
We're gonna make cookies and kill people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Like I've seen. I've watched your show a million times.
You're no, no, We're not going to Spain or France
or whatever. Nope, Darryl, stay here, please please, I've seen
this cool motorcycle.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
By the way, I'm gonna get one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
I really think the zombie zombie genre has evolved over
time because I feel like it has to evolve to
make it more realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
So like if you if we would have had the podcast,
let's say, twenty years.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Ago, we could be the only podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Yes, like if it happens like we're it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
But if we had the podcast twenty years ago and
we were like, oh, zombies, it would be like Romero zombies,
walking dead zombies, Sean of the Dead zombies.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
That feels like the most plausible it would have.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
But because they had to grow with the times and
because there's vaccinations and chemicals being involved, which is the
twenty eight days later the resident evil zombies like all
of those chemically chemically charged type zombies. The reasons being

(01:21:22):
them being zombies is because their DNA was altered or
you know, it wasn't them dying and it was a virus.
It was because there was bullshit injected into them COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
And did you say COVID. Yeah, Okay, I didn't hear you, sorry,
but there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Yeah, there there was. But it's it's just along those
lines of there's a difference between a there's dead people.
But then if you go again, like I said, the
voodoo voodoo Haitian yeah stuff, it would be necromouncers trying
to resurrect the dead.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
And then Jace Unch, No, he's out back doing his
rituals in the gravel. I'll never forget ed going there.
It was Jase to do his his fucking rituals of.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
The Jack Daniels hitting his head, breaking the glass and
then busting his hands around.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
You know, it's funny every time I see seeing Punk
come out and he does that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
He like like Jesse Jason Haunt, he like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Does the cross on the ground and before he says
it's clawb like ja doing, he's doing his Jace rituals. Jase,
I love you so much. You're the best.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
But there's there's different takes on zombies. Yea of you
know what what really puts fear into people for zombies
like for again for me, yes, it is the rage
virus zombies that scare me because they run fast. Yeah,

(01:23:11):
you can't escape them because even if you fart or
sneeze or breathe, they catch you. Yeah, that's what scares me.
And I love the fact that they take the whole
zombie aspect of it. Of like you've got romero zombies,

(01:23:32):
which is just like, hey, anybody that moves, we're gonna
attack you. And then you have the rage virus zombies
or even the chemically altered zombies to where it's like, oh,
like you, I smell your blood or I can hear
your heart beat.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
What I'm just.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Picturing all of us hiding from zombies. It's gonna be
either mer or you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Oh, it's mostly probably we're in a tree or behind
some brush or something, and you hear it and one
if one of us parts the other is gonna go.
God damn it, We're gonna then everybody. You're gonna start chuckling.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Everybody's gonna gear up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
We're hiding like under a dead tree, and you and
then one of us or Gunner hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I'm gonna fart and you and Gunnar are gonna laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Or Brian, oh yeah, brand stand So I didn't here,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
I'm gonna bring this in before we wrap this up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
So do you think these beautiful girls would survive? Don't
you think zombies will go after the animals yours?

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Oh my god, in my in my world and my
zombie apocalypse.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I think honestly yes, because anything it is. Yes. I
watched The Walking Down enough to yes. Deer, get Bit, Yeah,
I've seen enough deer. I've seen squirrels on that show,
Get Bit. One of them had a woodchuck when they
were looking in season two, episode one, they Rick and

(01:25:14):
Darrell got it a zombie and had a skull of
a woodchuck in its stomach. But also, girls, I'm sorry,
but mommy and Daddy's gotta eat. Nope, I'm kidding, I'm joking.
I will I will starve before I would do that
to them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Well, we have security right here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
No, we have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Hey, we're trying to be quiet, and Lucy hears a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
She warns you, She warns you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
She is security.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Or if we're trying to hide and be quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
She's fine. She doesn't cry.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
She just pokes me with her nose and then she
lays on you and then she cries.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I'm a scared Mommy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Gunner said the word bye bye and see and she
did that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
She ran to the door and tried to grab her leash.
So I took her the backyard and threw the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
We'll go tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
That's on you now in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
We'll go bye bye tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
We'll take you know, take a lap for a couple
of laps around the block.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
No, maybe maybe stop by Mimi's house.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
This right here is my zombie apocalypse team. Lucy, everybody
in this house is my zombie apocalypse team.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Do you want Mommy to take you to Mimi's house
for a minute?

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Go say how to me me?

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
And then after we go to the grocery.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Yes, got to drop my car off tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
That's why we will so zombies like again, Like I said,
I hate to love them. And love to hate them?

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Do you love to watch them?

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
You love you hate to make them?

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
I get that, but that's because zombies are overrated.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
I mean, would you rather you do it or would
you would you rather watch the product of what gregnica
Taro made and do that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
I would love that if I had the money for it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
No, would you rather watch what Gregnicataro made on TV?
Alongside him?

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Teach me?

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
You want him to be here? He's your sense you're
his You're his padawan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Yes, please please. I did meet Gregntaro. There's proof downstairs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
He is very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
He's such a fun guy, and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
He was all about like, oh, if you want to
try this, he was given tipsy, I know he was
giving you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
He was all advice. He was also roasting Gunner.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
No, Gregnicataro gave you advice on how to make them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
You got you got.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Sage, I know from the man himself.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Touch him and he.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Put his arm on your shoulder and for a photo.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I know, and no one can take that from you
hyperventilated while we were in the line. You know this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
He gave you sage advice on how to make zombies.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
I just thought it was funny that he's he was
roasting Gunner the whole time. Oh, you're so scared, scared
of a zombie head?

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Can touch it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Touch it? You big man, you big man, touch it?
So zombies wrap it up?

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Yes again, Oh Jesus Christ, charm.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I hate to love them, love to hate them zombies.
I think depending on where the new generation is yea,
and to see what they can create with zombies. But
you can't get rid of what's there. No, no, I

(01:28:49):
mean we have slow moving virus rage video games like
zombie will. I feel like zombies will die right now.
They're at a lull, like there's nothing zombie wise, until

(01:29:12):
somebody decides to regenerate.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
I say, let's go let the let's let's let's bring
it back. Let's fucking bring it back. Well, no, we're
still getting the Dead spinoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
That's true, that's true, But I feel like a lot
of the Walking Dead spin offs are uh, emotional based,
like soap operas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
It always has ramas I know, but there was a
lot of zombies within the one to three oh yeah,
one to three seasons. Yeah, but after the third season
it became like a soap opera, yeah, with zombies kind
of peppered in here and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
There a little bit. Yeah, we need.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
More fucking zombies and less soap. Yeah, yeah, breaking back
rage virus zombies give us a world warzy two.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Well we did just have twenty eight years later.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
We gotta finish that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I kind of want to watch that sober because I
was really tired and it was like two am started over.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Yeah, there's a lot of dick, That's what I've heard
from everybody. There's a lot of wiener.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
There's a lot of penis in that movie, and it
was just one person. When you die, you don't have
clothes and you grow a penis.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
I'm guessing so in twenty eight years later. Yeah, I mean,
come on, if I die and I'm a zombie, I'm
totally down for being naked.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
I'm down for that too.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
That would be the lady in uh Down of the
Dead twenty four or two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
I mean, if if if I got to have sex
with on, I'm at least it's you. You well, she's hey,
he's my husband.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
He's still got hot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Like the dead dead, all right, I still love him
all audience, Oh god, what the fuck he's at carcass gross.

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