What Makes the Perfect Disney Day?

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What does your perfect Disney day look like?
Riots, snacks, or just soaking in the magic?
Tonight we're comparing notes and building the perfect plan.
So no stress, no chaos, just pure Disney fun.
Welcome to the great British Mickey Waffle live.

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Hello everybody. Happy Wednesday.
If it's definitely got the Wednesday feeling about it and
I'm very happy to be joined not only by John but also a special
guest tonight we have Adam from Devonshire.
Diz, I hope you're both doing well tonight.
Hi, guys. Good to have you back on the
show, Adam. Yes, thank you kindly for the
invite at a blast last time, so I appreciate you inviting me

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back. So much looking forward to this.
I think we all have that thoughtof what makes a good Disney day
and is there such a thing as a perfect Disney day.
I think that's the thing when you've got 14 day ticket, you
sort of think, OK, we've got plenty of days to do the parks,
but do you ever actually set outand plan what you want to do
during the day? So if you're watching a live and

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tell us in the chat where you'd like to start your your morning
new Disney day and don't forget to hit that like button.
Some more Disney fans can find us.
We have podcasts that come out on the 1st and 15th of every
month and we're live every Wednesday at 8:30 over on
YouTube. So, John, I'm going to throw
this straight open to you. Oh, thanks a lot.
Like. That there's no.

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On. On your perfect Disney day,
where do you head To what? What park?
If it was, if it was, if we're going for the perfect day, it
would have to be all four of them within the one day.
I think that that's a bit that gets me.
I kind of get a bit greedy on things like this and.

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Make UC part copper. Yeah, yeah.
And I just felt that, yeah. But you can't do that.
And I think I think really with that, with the use of the word
perfect, and I would, I would actually urge anyone who is
actually watching this or listening to this, it's just
reel it in a little bit. Don't go with that ideal of it,

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of it being absolutely perfect. It has it, it has to be perfect
for you, but it has to be on your terms.
And I think, I think that reallyby me starting to say no, it has
to be 4 parts in a day. It kind of if you've got a group
of people with you, then if you're putting them through
absolute health to actually experience Disney, that's not

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maybe not the right thing to do.And I think that's the thing.
It's it's planned sensibly. You know, I even I'm at the, I
was talking to the family and they said, what are you doing on
the show tonight? I said perfect Disney day.
And so I could go really off thescale and say we just go to
Epcot for opening, go drinking around World Showcase, get

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absolutely hammered. And actually, that's the and
even when my sister turned around, she just said, but we've
never done that. It's just like, all right, OK.
But it's. Yeah, yeah.
It is that thing, though, of just limiting what your
expectations are because you read so many stories of people
who generally online, you know, Facebook groups and things like

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where people just turn around and go, oh, I'm never going
again. I'm not going back to that place
because actually we were there for hours and hours and we
didn't see Mickey Mouse. Well, let's see if you plan it,
and that's hopefully what this show will be.
If you plan stuff, you can make things happen that will make it
magical for you. I think that's probably the best

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way of describing it. How about you, Adam?
Sir John's off to Epcot to get hammered.
So what? Where would you start your?
Actually, I don't think. I don't think I am.
I think that's, that's probably the worst thing to start with,
because actually I don't think Iwould because it ruins the day.
Yeah. And that's and that's the.
Next day. Yeah, exactly.

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I'm the I'm the spending money. Hey then, cheap to drink around
the world. No, no it's not.
No, definitely not. Just to just to echo what John's
saying, I think if you're thinking about encapsulating a
perfect Disney day, it's full ofDisney moments and perfect
Disney moments. So it is about the people you're
experiencing it with. It's about those, not

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necessarily the ones that you'replanning for those spontaneous
moments that happen, which really do make a perfect Disney
day. But I think every day, every
Disney day for me, especially atthis moment with with two young
kiddos and toe. The perfect Disney Day starts
with this resort mug filled withJoffrey's.

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And a bit better. Couldn't be here tonight.
But her first thing when I said what would you start your Disney
day with? And, she said, coffee.
Coffee. I'm with her.
I get it. And especially when it's, it's
almost difficult because I, I always think a perfect day is
that first day you've, you've woken up early, you've got the
jet lag. So you've somehow woken up 3
o'clock 4:00 and just waiting the time to go by before the

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park opens that you have to justhead for coffee, head for
something or your resort mug andjust get on that bus or arrive
at the park. And usually something special
when you just arrive at a Magic Kingdom.
And it isn't always our first park day by tradition.
We've always done some at Hollywood Studios and but a lot

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of that depends on where we stay.
But I just think a trip doesn't feel like it started until
you've walked down Main Street and you've you just hear the
train, you just see the atmosphere and you just get to
see that castle. Yeah, it's a magic moment every
time, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.
If you could bottle that sort ofexperience out, it would

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probably cost less than every time that we go to Disney World
every year. It's very true.
Very true. I'm going forward to tonight's
show. It's going to be very good, I
think. Do you think we have some time
for sent for to cover the news, John?
Oh, definitely. I've got, I've got a nice, I've
got. I've finally posted.
I had a bit of news. There we go.

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Look, it's written there. It's just like on the BBC.
Exactly. Yeah, I won't be there.
I won't be there. I won't make that.
I won't make that mistake where where she sort of I think is.
Like 4321. Go on then.

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John got caught out on the 2 so I was absolutely fascinated and
this, this is actually this bit of news I didn't realise this
week in history. Sesame Street premiered in 1969
and the love and the amount of different it might just be

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because I liked something, you know, on Facebook and but the
amount and Instagram, but the amount of different Muppet stuff
that's come as a result of that.But I'm thinking that's why I
became such a big Muppets fan because Sesame Street is
actually was started the year I was born, which is even more,
which is even more scary. And but I just don't.

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Yeah, we take so much of this for granted and we take so much
of of what Jim Henson left for all of us.
And we actually don't realize that how old some of that stuff
is. And when you look back to some
of that, some of the things thatSesame Street actually did, it
was it was possibly one of the best kids programs that I

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certainly I got to see in that generation.
And I think I don't. Remember growing up on Sesame
Street? Yeah.
And I think, Adam, when you've got younger kids, you get
different. You have different things that
now have that. I wouldn't even say it's
educational. Yeah, I know my kids grew up
now. Josh burying the big, Big Blue

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house was his go to kind of Disney thing, but it's kind of
there's nothing certainly for mebecause I haven't got young
kids. And, and so if you've got young
kids as you have, do you have that same input?
Because actually Sesame Street rewrote kids TV and, and, and

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actually that whole bit of just filling time on the TV was stuff
that was 1. Educational, 2.
Quite funny for adults to actually watch.
And 3/3, they actually, they didn't always get it right, but
it actually from a a theatre point of view, it was stunning

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viewing. And I think that for me is that
there's something that I'll always stay with me.
Yeah. I I lived in history.
I don't know whether anyone has seen, Talking of Sesame Street,
the clip that was it Brett Goldstein from Ted Lasso, was it
Roy Kent? All I can say is that if we had

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a chance, what I do, I post in our Facebook community to have a
have a watch of that after the show because I have to make.
It's one of the best interactions that I've seen and
he's incredible. I think we're all rooting for
Season 4 of Ted Lasso, which should be out next year.
Any Ted Lasso? If you've not seen that, make
sure you try and get a free Apple subscription to to add to

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it or and just just go and watchit.
It's just so miscible. And what's going to say Ben?
The past few weeks we've had an absolutely load of late Disney
news before the show. And actually this week we
haven't. And actually it's quite
refreshing apart from Ratatouille closing to go to 2D

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and. That's an interesting one
actually. I'm glad they are just indicate
rid of 3D glasses. It's not that I felt it added
much to the attraction. Yeah, I think me a little mate,
me a little mate who sets her accounts and said to Disney
money is behind that. But maybe that's another thing I

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think, I think the biggest. Your favorite bar opened this
week, John, One we mentioned last last week.
Yeah, the purge. Yeah.
Yeah, I won't. I won't, we won't go down the
the the dead power sketch again.I hope we did that to death last
week. I think the biggest news of the

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week though, and this again, this comes back to being
British, is the fact that temperatures in Florida have
been so cold. And colder than us yesterday,
yeah. And then and it's just like it
just doesn't prepare you for, you know, I could imagine going
to Florida and actually then doing what we did when I think

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we went to we went to Vancouver Island 2007.
And you turn up, you're thinkingI'm on a warm, warmish kind of
summer holiday. And then having to go and
disgrace yourself by buying hoodies and hats and things that
you have loads of at home and like fleece jackets purely

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because you didn't pack them andyou really just completely
completely ill prepared for coldweather.
Was it in December 2030? We'd only put the trip in the
October, so it was a very last minute trip, but we were
thinking from the first couple of weeks beforehand.
But OK, we better start right and packing.

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So we're going to take shorts, T-shirts, all the sort of stuff.
So it's going to be warm. According to AccuWeather.
A week on down to like we were going to arrive on Christmas
Eve. To.
Temperatures hovering around freezing and I was like, wait,
there's the app is broken or Florida is broken.
It didn't feel right. And when we got there, when we

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got to Terminal C and it was like we're waiting for an Uber,
it was freezing. And but it was the memories we
made the following day on Christmas Day that we walked
into Echo. A lot of people probably avoided
the parks because it was so cold.
A lot of locals are going like, no, I can go there any day.
I don't have to go Christmas Dayor any family things.

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So it was, but by the end of theweek it got up to 20, back up to
28°. So such huge swing from from
that, having to take winter coats, hats, gloves, scarves,
you name it, just to keep warm. Yeah, it's not good, is it it?
Was a good experience, not that I would plan to go.

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We're going in January and touchwood.
We can have a slightly warmer temperature and I know Claire's
out there next month so I know she's hoping for warmer better
than what they had yesterday. Yeah, a shout out to to Nick and
Sarah Carter I saw on Instagram the other day, the day I had to
go out and buy a blanket to keepwarm while watching the
fireworks. That's not Florida.

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That's what I do for them. Paris it.
Just feels wrong. It's it's such a bizarre thing.
And I just feel that, like you said, Ben, it adds to the actual
memory. And actually, you know, I know
the water parks were shot this week as well because it was so
cold and, and actually to be really it's Typhoon Lagoon was

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shot on Tuesday because the temperature was so low.
Not suitable really. But like you said, it puts
people off from going to the park.
So again, go against the go against the flow and and if
you're very British about it, just put your shorts and AT
shirt and a hoodie on and that's.

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Just keep moving. Just.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. You'll be fine.
Stuff off occasionally for a hotchocolate and you'll be fine.
Yeah, what what impressed me wasjust, I think it was a picture
on blogmickey.com where they shared them spraying salt on the
Adventureland Bridge. And.
I was like wow, that is something I've not seen.

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See this. Could be a thing though,
couldn't it? Yeah, maybe we could introduce
them to the fact that in the UK people on a local basis, they
give gritters names, don't they?You know, so you get gritty Matt
grit face and and stuff like, yeah, it's just like maybe
Disney could go down that line and like, oh, we're going to

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bring out gritter #3 to do MagicKingdom and it's just like.
And then can we name it? There we go.
Yeah. Oh, I love that.
Yeah. But you, you know, it'll be
something named terribly. Really.
Usually it's. Yeah, it'd be.
It'd be Elsa, won't it? It'd be just like Deandra and
Elsa. Elsa.
'S been out again. We did.

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We did see when we were in Epcot, we did see Elsa that day,
just to check whether it was herthat was causing the.
If they put a gritter into the Disney parks, there's going to
be a hell of a queue to have a selfie with it, isn't there?
Oh. Yeah, I love that.
But yeah, there's a few other news items that I've just seen.

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Well, proper news, Ben. There you go.
Proper news. Well, we've mentioned this for
the past few weeks, but there's only three dates that remain for
Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party.
It's selling out really quickly this year and I'm not surprised,
but when the price is on, price is for a ticket compared to what
we paid in the past. Adam, if you ever had a chance

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to do Mickey's for a Merry Christmas party.
Did, yes, but it was it was manymeans ago, many, many means ago.
So it was a completely differentprice point and probably more of
a limited experience. We had a hot chocolate and our
sugar cookies, but it wasn't as extravagant at what it is now.
I'd love to do it again, love todo it again.
I'm getting fame out, looking atall of the people experiencing

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it on incident, getting in a festive spirit.
And the same with Jollywood nights as well as like.
We need to. Go back at Christmas.
Every time we're booking a trip,I'm thinking like, why haven't
we chosen Christmas? It just look, looks incredible.
It needs to go, needs to go back.
That it does. It does indeed.
Yeah, yeah, Jollywood. This is the character
interactions as well, which justall sound phenomenal.
They've got some great characters out there.

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It's like I want to meet Phineasand Ferb.
That would be that's just that'son our that's on our list.
Yeah, no, we need to think of a Christmas trip at some point.
We keep, we keep booking cruisesand like they seem to be during
the summer. I mean, it's like we need to
change something to winter at some point.
Yeah. And the Disney Destiny.
The reveal happened over the past week.

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It looks incredible. It's like it's the third ship in
its class. So you've had the wish, look at
the treasure, and now you've gotthe destiny.
And it's all about heroes and villains.
Have you seen much on it, John? No, because I'm not a cruising
kind of person, Ben. So I kind of shut myself off on
that because I know fine well that.
It's not out for you. Yeah, I, I really, Yeah, I'm, I

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don't know, I get the heebies about being on the boat
surrounded by. I've watched Titanic.
Not an iceberg insight. Well, you never know where these
temperatures. No, that's.
True. That's the excuse to not go back
to Port Canaveral. We can't.

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We can't go back. It's.
But yeah. So I think we should skip the
rest of the news and head back to and in our perfect day.
Oh. Definitely.
So there's so many different things, but are you someone who
will always go for a rope drop or go to the parks later in the
morning? You're going to throw that at me

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again, aren't? You.
Because John, I think I know your answer because I know you
don't want to skip. You'll rather skip breakfast and
head to Space Mountain. Yeah.
And actually this, this is this is probably going to surprise
you, Ben, because actually over the past couple of years,
usually we will be big rope dropand park opening people.

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And as a family, we've always loved that part of it.
And actually what we've learned to do is, yeah, during the first
week, because you're up early yet that comes into it.
But actually we've learned to kind of come away from that rush
hour and then aim for a bit, maybe a half 1011 O clock start

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when the big surge to the big rides kind of subsides a little
bit. But you then find that the park
is then flowing that little bit more.
So you're then not in that sort of big, big scrum first thing in
the morning. And, and, and that came as a
surprise. Even this summer.

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We, we actually, I think we justlearned to just take it a little
bit more in our stride. And, and because it again,
because we weren't without kids,we, we knew that we were going
to go deeper into the day. So it meant that you could
actually just bide your time andand actually yeah, use the app

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be very careful as to what you want to do at certain times
because you can actually pick upsome basically you get a mid
afternoon parade time in Magic Kingdom.
You can actually get some reallyshort wait times on some of the
bigger rise or the ones that generally are queued out with
families, Peter Pan especially. And so you can make it work for

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you. And that probably comes from a
little bit of experience over the years.
In the past we would just basically have got him and and I
think, I think that's probably because we've not got fast
passes and I won't, I will not pay the price for buying a
lightning line, not because I'm tight, it's more because of the

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fact that I just disagree with the principle of it.
Yeah. No, no, I get that.
I have to. We've always come by the when we
on at home, we were generally upearly and about on holiday.
It seems to be up even earlier. It's it's just something that

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will always be either going to breakfast somewhere or making
our way to a park, whether it's driving or getting a bus or sky
liner or depends on where we stay.
Sometimes we'll leave a walk to a park.
So it's always nice to be there when the rope drops.
So when you get the chance to just walk into Magic Kingdom and
go into Hollywood Studios. I remember one time we were at

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Hollywood Studios an hour beforepark opening because we've read
the time was wrong. We, we, we, we were like an hour
early for early entry. So, but it was an incredible
experience because they still had cast members there and we
were just talking and we were the first ones in the park that
morning. And it just felt special.
And it was, it was just a great atmosphere.

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And it was the first morning of our trip.
Bit of jet lag kicked in, like no, we were awake, but we
managed to get so much done in that first couple of hours and
the we thought, actually this just fits for us.
So we just went. I remember that trip, we just
spent most of it like Toy Story Land and then into like Galaxy's

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Edge and just managed to get allof those sort of done within
that first amount of time. It's amazing how much you can do
if you then go in a few hours later and then the what the wait
times are like, it's really difficult to work out what's the
best. You've got to try it.
You've got to try it out and seehow you because there are some

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people that won't want to get that early, won't want to be for
park opening. But actually if you can try and
get there for before park opening and get to security, get
to the front of the line or towards it and then just being
that first group of people. It has massive benefits banner
and actually, if you if you're from the UK, I know we do have

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people who people who join us from the US and and we love the
fact that you do to put the it'shard to describe that that like
I said, that first week were andmy family just laughed the socks
off at me because I hate gettingup for work every morning.
But suddenly you're in the middle of Orlando and you're

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awake from maybe 4:00 or 5:00 AMand you're like wide awake.
It's not it's not just like snoozy awake.
It's just like it's full on. I need to get up, I need to get
doing. You know, I've been, I've been
in the pool before the kids evenwake up before.
It's just like, you mean you're just like alive and the

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adrenaline kicks in. And actually, yeah, it is.
There is times where you actually get that, get there for
the first possible moment. I know, I know.
We were talking before the show about being at Universal.
And what's really interesting isyou compare the two.
Universal, I've got early entry for their parks for hotel

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guests. So if you're off site, it, it
kind of works against you because actually by the time
you're allowed in, hotel guests have been there for an hour.
So you so you kind of you've written no advantage whatsoever
unless you stayed in one of the hotels and you know it just so
it's something just bear in mindand look at the perks that
hotels have as to what you're going to turn up at the park and

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you think, oh, I'm going for opening, but you might find it's
not actually opening so. And it's also sort of planning
what's on that day. I remember during the summer we
had a few issues where we wantedto go in and just do see Disney
Starlight. But when it was the Halloween
party and when you got Christmasat the minute, it's not on every
night. If you missed it, you don't, you

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then have to like, oh, I don't, that's not going to fit into my
plan with what I want to do. So it is understanding the park
hours and working out what your must do's are on the trip
because I think the best thing is to have a list of must do's
the throughout the whole time that you're there.
You get to achieve those. You can ignore everything else.
As long as you get your must do's done, you're going to be

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happy at the end of it. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. I think, like we, I've said it
on many of episode our side and and it is certainly something
when it you become a parent and you've got young kids that
you're having to get up early orthey're trying to get you up
early. Let's face it, there's there's
guidelines. They actually, they actually get

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jet lag more than we do. Yeah, at their age and and that
surprised, that surprised me when we first went with kids.
It's the fact that, you know, they, as much as they'll wake up
at 7:00 AM in the UK, when that's 2:00 AM, Florida is a
time that becomes a little bit of an issue, doesn't it?
Like it's just like. Oh, definitely.

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Yeah, yeah. Our first days we are up early
doors, hence the coffee. Yeah.
But I think exactly that and I think like it's a little bit of
that and it's also a little bit of like you just you said, John,
the holiday adrenaline, which from our perspective and and
from a, from a family perspective, that's the reason
why I, I guess we would be more consistent of a rate drop than

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we would be a park closed. And like I said, you can't.
You get a lot done if you get upthat early, you do.
That's that's a good way of looking at it.
And actually, I think I think you need to come back on this
show in another like 15 years when your kids get older.
And it's really, it's really interesting.

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And it's not, again, not to do with the kids, but it's
actually, they tend to enjoy a later night because it's
different than everything that they've done when they were
younger. And when we've had to, we've had
a dip out of the park and thingslike that.
So they're still getting a buzz out.

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The fact that they're doing someof this kind of relatively new
because in the past you've actually been forced into,
right? I think we need to take really,
if we've been been in since opening, we just need to
basically, let's rein this in because otherwise you end up,
you do end up with cranky kids. So bear that.
I don't mind. Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, yeah.
Very true. That's the thing, if you've been
in the park since park opening and you hit in like, I don't
know, 11-12 o'clock, it's getting warm in Florida and
you've, you've done quite a few attractions and a few sort of
shows. Sometimes you get to a point
where it's like, I need to stop.Especially when you haven't
eaten. You may have grabbed a cup of
snacks, but actually do you sortof plan time out of the parks?

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Then just take a break to just whether you do go and see a show
in the park where you're doing something that's different or
whether you go and leave the park?
We always try and if we're in early, we'll always try and go
out between like 11 and one. Just try and just get go out to
get some lunch because food I find is much better out of the

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park than it is in the park, especially when you've got so
many resorts around and then also gives us a chance to
decompress market what we've done so far.
What else is on our list? Do we want to go back into the
same park? Do we want to do what John was
suggested beginning begin a fourpart challenge.
How many times we've we've done that we've thought lunch gone

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like oh, we've done magic. I fancy going to Epcot.
So then we end up going to Epcotand then we go to Hollywood
Studios or Animal Kingdom and then we'll just how many times
that we've ended up accidentallydoing a four part challenge
because we just, there's only a couple of things that we decide
we want to do. And it's just then working out
what your next thing. Because we've used Lightning

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Lane quite a few times. Yeah, the test paying for it.
But sometimes you get to the point in the trip or if you're
only doing a short trip like 7 nights, sometimes that actually
you want to make sure that you've been on like a flight
passage to make sure that you you've done that trip there.
There's not, there's only a few attractions that I would pay for

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and one of them was guardians. And because if we haven't done
guardians that trip, we haven't done it quite right.
Definitely. Definitely.
I still haven't done it. I still haven't not no, I know
that's that's the exact reactionI get every time.
Yeah, but that, well, that's going to be a difficult one when
you've got young kids as well though, isn't it?

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Well, this, this was the issue in or not the issue.
This was, this was the reason why the plan pivoted.
When we were there last time we had a virtual queue as it was at
the time. And it just, it was at that
crucial time in the afternoon where kiddos of a certain age
would prefer to either be napping or in a pool.
And, and that's what we did because, you know, like you

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said, cranky kids equals cranky adults.
And that's not a good combo. So next time, next time is on
the must do list for sure. Must be so good when you get to
us to do it so you know where you're going.
What's the ride that gets you into the park?
What's the first thing you head to in Let's do each part.
You've got one attraction. What's your must do in each

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park? I'll start with Magic Kingdom.
My must do is Big Thunder Mountain.
When it's open. When it's I wasn't going to say
the riverboat, but we can't talkabout it.
Don't mention, don't make sure. I mentioned it once.
I think we got away with it, yeah.

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But yeah, definitely, definitelythat Magic Kingdom.
Magic Kingdom. Magic Kingdom's an interesting
one. There's so many attractions.
So many attractions, yeah. It's and it depends on where you
are in Magic Kingdom because andespecially when you used to like
the early entry, but not all of it's open.
Yeah. Sometimes we, we would always

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like, oh, Big Thunder is not open at that time.
So we'd end up getting in the queue for a second horse mine
train and you realise it's like an hour long queue and you think
like I should have just got a coffee and waited for Big
Thunder to open. Yeah, I think that's, I think in
a way that's how Magic Kingdom'schanged over the years though.
Yeah, because I think previouslyyou would, you would never have

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a lot of people go for splash first thing because it's a
little bit, Yeah, it's not quite, the sun's not quite out.
So if you did get very wet is you're going to be a little bit
chilly and stuff like that. So Big Thunder becomes an
attraction. But then you've also got Jungle
Cruise for those as a distraction for those people
turn in left to get to get to Big Thunder.

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When the Seven Dwarves went in, I think that took away an awful
lot of people who went for space.
And I, I actually feel space at the moment.
When you go for opening, I thinkspace is the one that doesn't
get the massive queue quite as quickly.
And it's, I think it's well worth doing because you can be
off space by about 9:30 for a nine O clock opening.

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And then you suddenly find yourself, it's like, oh, I can
pick up some of the smaller rides because everyone's in the
queue for Seven Dwarfs, everyone's in the queue for Big
Tondo, everyone's in the queue for Tiana's.
And you suddenly find yourself, you've got, you have got that
little window of opportunity to pick up some real good sort of

(31:46):
tick, tick them off and then move on.
And that for me, that for me is where I would, I was in Magic
Kingdom, I would go, I would go with Big Thunder first, just
purely out of the fact that I know that I'll get on quick and
I'll get out quick. How about you?
What? Where are you heading to in
Magic Kingdom? Magic Kingdom, I think if I

(32:07):
think back of when I was growingup, I would be with you, Ben,
and it will always be one of my favourite rides in Walt Disney
World is big fun mountain for sure.
We've we've with kids, we've fallen into a bit of AI.
Don't know if we can call it a ritual now, but we end up going
to probably the the anticipated ride in the whole of Magic

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Kingdom and we go directly straight to the carousel.
Don't ask me why, but with with the kiddos, that's the first
thing going around the castle. If you can get through it in
those magical moments when they go through the castle into
fantasyland with the kids and the first thing they see right
in front of them is the carousel.
And and Penny, our our daughter absolutely loves it.

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Now, obviously when he went was was young as well.
So we end up going to the carousel was a bit of a
tradition the last couple of years.
But I will, I will. I will agree with you.
If it was me on my own, I was going on the solo trip, the 1st
place I would go would be left to Thunder Mountain for sure.
Yeah. Yeah, Big Thunder Mountain was
my first ever Disney roller coaster.

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Yeah. So it's it's got the memories
and it's it felt terrible in August being there, like, oh,
it's closed. But I'm about next time we'll
we'll get a chance to get back on it.
I can't, I can't wait to see what see what they do.
But yeah, it's really interesting just to see how we
the park splits up and how people go in different ways.
Yeah, if, if Epcot is our park, just I would probably be going

(33:35):
straight for Guardians. I just, I knew you were going
there. I think it's with virtual queue,
we tend to always get something that was like either early like
in like 10 or 20. So it was like by the time that
we've actually parked the car orgot the bus and our boarding
group is normally called pretty much straight away.

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Yeah, when we, when we got through.
So actually now with having a, it's just a rope drop it, we'll
just get there, do it. And if you get chance and the
key is low enough, we'll just goback on again.
That's just such an incredible attraction that I I can't think

(34:17):
of going anywhere else unless I'm walking the other side of
Epcot, which we did a couple of times on our last trip.
So becoming the international gateway we usually would head to
test track. How got you?
Yeah, I say see this is and thisis this is the other thing when
test track reopened it it split that queue and it split the IT

(34:40):
split the audience. And I think this is a really
good thing to know because a lotof people would go to Remy,
which takes a lot of people. People still go for soaring
because that's the that's the traditional park opening ride.
Guardians eats up a park crowd incredibly.

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And so you've got everyone goingto other places and test track.
When it reopened, it kind of sucked up loads and loads of
people. And yet keep it yourself.
If you're able to do the single rider, you can be in onto test
track within 10 minutes maximum and you're out of there and you

(35:23):
go and do it again. If you want to.
Yeah, I love, I love, I love test track.
I really do. But I really feel that nobody
kind of knows the single rider is such a shortcut.
And you know, we went as a couple but decided we don't
really, we we're not gone for the, we're not gone for the
photo and things like that. So it's just the fact that we

(35:47):
want to go and ride test track. But even as we've been as a
family, we've split up on the single ride line.
And there was, and there was a time last summer where we were
in the same car and we just moved somebody around.
So would you, would you mind just so we ended up in the
outside seat. So we were both sitting behind

(36:08):
each other. So we were the first people in
the car for the ride. Photo.
I was like that. So single rider is really good
there and I think a lot of people use to avoid it,
especially in its previous iteration where you've got to
design the car because there's always that bit I want to design
the car. I don't get to do that on a
single rider. But now they're taken away
completely. It doesn't make any difference.

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I think next time we'll if the queue is like longer than like
30 or 40 minutes, we'll probablyjust single rider because it
will make sense for us to. I've got to say it is a massive
saving and I, I, I'm always reticent to share little tips
like this because actually because, because I know fine
well the next time I go is goingto bite me on the backside and

(36:50):
someone's going to be like, there you go.
That was you. That was you sharing all that
whole, that whole thing, our whole thing about.
You know, I'm, I'm just looking through the comments and just
seeing sort of what people, people's thoughts are of like
Magic Kingdom, Jungle Cruise andPeople Mover.
People, there's a good show, yeah.
I think that's a really good show.
No one go. It's one of those ones that

(37:12):
until you've been on it, you just don't know how relaxing it
is. I, I saw a tick tock video the
other day where someone was on there and they just spoke to a
cast member and just say, can you let me go around a few
times? And he just, they just keep
going and going and just like, especially when it's quiet as
well, there's not much of A queue.
I, I've got a thing about the people move and forgive me if

(37:35):
I'm wrong, because actually thisis, this is, this is if you've
got young kids and you want to go on space Mountain, the people
mover is the greatest way of like child swapping.
And when your kids this is, and again, when you've got one child
who's big enough to go on Space Mountain and the other can, and

(37:59):
you're suddenly in that bit of, Oh, my word, how do I, how do I
entertain this child? And they don't feel like they're
missing out. People Mover every single time.
Yeah. And both my kids have got such
fond memories of the fact that they knew even when they
weren't, they were both too small to go and ride it.
They knew what we were doing when we were going on the Space

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Mountain with a fast pass, the old paper fast passes.
It was that long ago. And it was a case that we would
actually, one of us would be thesacrificial lamb and ride the
people move. And then maybe if the queue was
a bit long, we'd go and do Carousel of Progress and then

(38:41):
we'd come off and then we reunite as a family and then
we'd flip it over. And so my wife would then go and
do go and do people move and theCarousel and the other and
probably that I would go and ride the Space Mountain.
It is a it's just brilliant. And I love that it's such an
under. It's just such an understated

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part of Magic Kingdom and, and just such a beautiful way of, of
just looking at the history of how that part came into being.
Yeah. It's one of them, one of them
places that I really feel that it needs preserved forever more.
You know, I was a bit easier when we took the turnstile out.

(39:23):
I quite like, I quite like that little turnstile.
It's just, yeah, it had. It had its own little place in
history. Yeah.
It's a bit like the sort of, it's not an escalator, is it?
It's just, it's the sort of the moving walkway.
They're just never and you have to walk.
It feels like you're like doing a gym section, walking up there
and then walking back down. Something else we're dizzy to

(39:45):
fix. But you had a lot of choice in
there because you're getting there for the rope drop.
What's your first thing you're heading to?
Epcot for me and and Walt DisneyWorld in general.
I think I can't go to Walt Disney World and not go on
soaring and I think Epcot is my go to when it comes to 1st
attraction in Epcot. I just, I just love it.

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I've loved both versions of it that we've had so far.
We're going to be lucky enough to have a limited offering next
year, which fingers crossed willstill be around when I head out
there in August. So I'm looking forward to to
hopefully go on a fair iterationof it.
I think it's just fantastic. There's just something about
that ride. I love it.
Bent Eiffel Tower and all. It has.

(40:27):
It has got better. It has got better.
Yeah. But I'm just I think what what
they're going to do, like the USversion or or monument, Are they
going to bend Eiffel? Tower, but maybe, maybe we get
the the and if you listen to theUSI do apologise.
This is just called straight to me had it's like they could just

(40:48):
have the music from Bonanza, theold the old TV show Bonanza and
we and we could just go and dropinto every American city.
I think that would work. I think that would work that.
Would be good. I might do.
I might. Yeah.
That might come to because I know when, when they first
announced that the amount of different memes that came up on

(41:09):
social media about how you couldactually, you could be sorry,
everyone, whatever part of America.
I'm not, I'm not going to I'm not going to degenerate the
whole argument, but it was it was funny.
I I thought it was quite hilarious.
I'm just, it's nice to see that Soren is getting another update,
but part of the things that they've got like 3 screens, if

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they do, they're really at the same time.
So a bit like Star Tours, where you can have your own, you're
never sure which one you're going to go into.
Yeah. It'd be quite good to like, have
the original soaring over California, in soaring around
the world and in soaring across America.
I think I'll be, we've had that same conversation with the
family recently because actually, I think even the

(41:56):
podcast, we've said this before,that would be the perfect way of
actually having the AB and C screens of soaring where you can
actually, and I know technology,you need to have it programmed
so you get the same smells and you get the same the ride moves

(42:17):
in a certain way. But now they've got three shows.
Surely that would be a way that you actually, you know, you
know, you could actually say, oh, I want to go and see screen.
Yeah. I think.
I think the key the original 1 will be the longest.
I just think. Yeah, I just, I think it'd be
brilliant. Thanks.
And I really do feel that that Ihope that comes in the future.

(42:40):
I really do, because I think great, that'll be a great way of
doing it. So I.
Spend a lot of time in the land pavilion if that's the case.
Yeah, same here. I wouldn't see daylight.
Yeah. And then you just, you've got to
finish saw room and going on living with the land.
Absolutely. It's just a rule, isn't it?
Absolutely I've. Done a trip recently without
going and living with the land and especially if you get a

(43:01):
chance of around Christmas when it's all lit up, the greenhouse
is just it's amazing. Yeah.
Something is happening on my list, but I think it's time to
move parks, something in Hollywood Studios.
So there's quite a few options, quite a few headliner
attractions you can go to. I would through experience, we

(43:22):
would normally go to Galaxy's Edge because if we're there
early, a few times we have been and we've managed to do rise to
Resistance, go then go and do smugglers from and then go get a
Ronzo wrap all within an hour ofthe park opening.
And then we just get to like, oh, we've, we've, we've had a

(43:42):
Star Wars morning and then it's time for us to plan the rest of
the day. So I would say Rise of
Resistance is probably where we go to.
Interesting, interesting. I've got to admit I was I used
to be one of those people that back in the I'm we're going back
in history, we're going back to paper fast past time where Yemen

(44:06):
you could get in the park for opening.
And there was that bit where my previous experience of running
is probably limited to winning the 100 meters when I was at
school. However, you don't run in a
Disney park. But I tell you what, you can
really get your strides in when it used to be the the race race

(44:28):
to the fast pass machine for ToyStory Mania back in the day was
quite the thing with your sharp elbows, sharp elbows out at both
sides. And you were just like, right,
that's that's our first stop. And then we'll go and do
whatever. And I still miss that.
I still miss the. I think there's a health and
safety person going on. Imagine if they bought it back

(44:54):
and out. It would be like Walmart opening
on a Black Friday. So it's just.
You're absolutely right, Ben. That's exactly what it would end
up with. And, and actually that probably
shows and this again, I'm I don't want to take us off on a
different, a different tilt, butbut actually that shows how much

(45:16):
life has changed within probablythe past 10 years, yo.
It's quite sad really. Can can I just point out right,
So in all the time we've done this, it's very rare and I'm
going to I'm going to call him out on this.
You're calling him. How are you, John?
Shackles and shackles in the chart, right?

(45:37):
And this is such a real, this isa really poignant moment because
I know he's somebody who's read all my trip reports.
I know he's watched and listenedto nigh on everything that we've
done, but he'd never usually comes in the chat on the
Wednesday. A big welcome to the show.
I'm so glad that you've actuallyposted.
And that was going to be my answer as well.
Tower of Terror, Hollywood Studios, every single time.

(45:59):
But good to see. Good to see you, and I'm glad
that you're watching us live. That's a great show.
Tower of Terror as well. Oh, it's just the greatest ride.
Especially blessing in the morning, but it's not normally
awoke on. It's only 13 minutes and the
last time we did it 13 minutes it wasn't good.
Person did 13 minutes, I think Iwas weighing 45.
I could already jumped 2 cups ofcoffee by that point.

(46:23):
I'm not going to complain. The queue is amazing, it's a
good atmosphere and it's still agood way to start your day.
Yeah, definitely. I mean again the thinking like
solo trip for me, it would be going that way for start of a
Hollywood studio day or either be Tower of Terror, rock and

(46:45):
roller coaster depending on which one had the better cube at
that time. And then I'll flip to the other
one for sure with kids and actually going back to The MGM
days, first and foremost, alwaysused to be the great movie
riders. My first attraction when I was
growing up, when it was The MGM days, Now as a parent, Best in
Disney's Hollywood Studios is going straight to that same

(47:07):
Chinese Theatre but for Mickey and Minnie's.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good show. I love that.
It's such a good ride. I wish like so many, I wish they
found space for both. But I do love a bit of Mickey
and Minnie's and that then leadsto that song being stuck in your
head for the for the full day. When you go on small hard, isn't

(47:28):
it? It's just like I scoff the Tip
Top quite frequently and occasionally someone's posted a
video or just the opening of that show and I just go like,
that song is in my head at leastall day maybe.
Yeah, it's true. Nothing could stop it now.
It's true. It is true I.
Absolutely love it. And I think I always had that

(47:50):
thing where it's been so many attractions that have ever
changed or moved or updated overthe years that we all go back to
like the original versions that we like a bit like John using
about going during the walks to a story mania, the one where
you're elbowing away. LastPass would normally get
through. It was always 6:00 PM.

(48:11):
We're always one of the last ones there.
It's like. But.
Then you know you have to stay in the poll because I've got
this fast pass, or you're lucky enough to gift it to him, a
friend or family or, or just spend a bit of Disney magic and
just share it with someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm

(48:33):
really taken by this because actually I think we've got
something a little undercurrent going in the show here.
And that is how when you've got young kids, it changes.
It changes your actual point of attack on, on obscene panic.
And what I've been interested isyou've gone for rides that are

(48:55):
really big on getting the kids absolutely in tune with where
they're at. And it's a get the big impact
visually for them. So it kind of creates a little
bit space and time for you a little bit later in the day.

(49:16):
I think that's a, that's a fracking way of actually, if
anyone's listen to this and actually you've got young kids,
it's a great way, a great way. Don't go for the selfish.
I want to go on get the kids sorted, get the kids absolutely
in that bit of they've had this so you can explain that mum and

(49:37):
dad, why are you going to do this?
And actually they can't argue with that.
They can't throw the toys out ofthe pram proverbial proverbially
because they've had a bit of input.
And that's that's a really good.I've forgotten about how
important that was. Because if they see that you
they see that they're left, they're left holding the coats

(49:58):
outside the ride. It doesn't, it doesn't kind of
get them into that spirit of Disney early in the day, You
know, we were all like. That there's not many attract
parks that you walk into and just go, I'm just going to sit
here and relax and just watch the day go by.
You're more likely to want to goand get a few attractions done
before. And I know Claire and Robin have

(50:20):
done solo trips before where they're on their own and just
going and just have a different way of doing it because you're
not having to think about what the rest of the family wants to
do. When we went as a family in
August, it was very different because we hadn't been sort of
in the in the group that we've been before.
So it was Becca and I had a verydifferent plan of what sort of a

(50:43):
two week trip to Disney is. And we know what we want to do,
what our must dos are. When it was some people who
haven't been as often as us, it's not as easy.
You've got to try and work out your must dos, their must dos
and what matches and what sort of day you're going to have.
Literally try and promise yourself I'm going to do
everything this one day. You're just setting yourself up

(51:04):
to fail. Yeah.
Yeah. And I think sometimes you get to
a point where it's like when we did Epic, we had a very, you
only get one day to do it. It's difficult to try and make
your perfect day when you've literally only got one day in
the park to do it. And it's just going in with low
expectations. And then you'll just be
surprised. And I think that's what what we

(51:26):
found. And I think that goes with any
park, if you, if you lower expectations, you're just always
going to exceed them. Yeah, yeah, 100%.
Well, I think that goes back to the point we just made about how
people have changed over the past 10 years as well, Ben,
because actually people have become that little bit more
selfish and, and they expect so much.

(51:49):
Or maybe it's a generation thingand maybe this generation that
coming through where they go in and they're expecting everything
to be I can get on this, this and this because I pay for my
ticket. They don't see the fact that so
we're learning a wider group of Disney fans or even Universal
fans who are sharing an experience within a theme park

(52:13):
in one given day, I think. I think there's a whole research
research paper to be done on that.
I think everyone experiences things differently and I think
we all go to Disney for we all have that shared love of Disney,
but not all of us go to Disney for the same reason.
Some of us go for a vacation, holiday to switch off, get and

(52:35):
just be absorbed by the Disney bubble.
Some of us just go to see friends, family or just going
somewhere it's familiar and it'sa different place to just switch
off and relax. We'll have a different reason.
But when you've got everyone with different reasons in a park
all trying to do the same thing,it's it's it's not always fun.

(52:55):
I remember the experience you get when a trap, you're entering
an attraction and it's just experiencing technical
difficulties. Yeah.
You just see everyone's disappointment.
Half the people will stay in thequeue, half people will leave
the queue. It's quite a different sort of
and sort of mentality. Is it maybe though Ben as well

(53:15):
And, and, and you can tell me toshut up if I'm wrong.
But again, I know we stopped when we spoke about in the news.
And now I know if I flippantly mentioned this last week about
the fact that the Christmas party was selling out and stuff
like having had so many Halloween parties that were
rained out and yet that queue guest services from people who

(53:41):
I've had a really decent night out and yet feel as if I have to
go, I have to make a complaint. And, and I for one, really, I
yearn for that year of a milliondreams that that happened a way
back probably far too many yearsthan I wish to recall 2008
something that where Disney would give a little bit of magic

(54:05):
back to the guests. Now, at the moment, people are
actually complaining about everylittle small thing that even my
little mate in the count is not going to be able to say, Well,
we can actually give a little bit of magic back because
actually the people who are in the park and not understanding
what the magic is and, and, and I think it, it has to be a two

(54:29):
way thing. And I think that's that.
And again, I might be, I might be, I might be talking absolute
tosh, but it's something I feel that that's how it's moved on.
And as a company, I think what we we need to, we need to
encourage is everybody who is going to the park, just lap it

(54:50):
up, lap up the magic and it's there.
It still is there. And yeah, I will.
I will agree with that. We would have at a Christmas
party in 2019. It was the first one we thought
I will to be. Loads of people, loads of
vloggers, loads of all of this. There weren't any.
It wasn't the media night for us, but it did rain.

(55:10):
We got into the park, I don't know about 5:00, but from 7:00
PM, as soon as the party started, you had that fine
drizzle that we're used to in Britain, but it can just got
heavier throughout the evening. I've got video of the fireworks,
which were brand new for that year and it felt it was just
foggy. You couldn't see the fireworks.

(55:31):
It was just. But what shocked me was two days
later we were talking to some people on on the bus, I think to
Apricot, and they had said that they got a refund of that night
because it got rained off. We had an incredible evening.
We got we we in 20%. Your cast members have got lots
of photos. We had a great time when a big

(55:52):
Thunder and the rain. It was incredible.
But to me, we had an incredible experience.
I don't want a refund on that. I thought that would taint the
experience. I was so sort of frustrated that
people are doing that just because of the weather.
You know weather is going to happen, but you make the most of
it. How many times have we been in a

(56:13):
Disney park and it's rained? Do you ask for a refund on new
Disney ticket? You don't.
You just you're waiting for the crowds to leave and then you
just get on with your day and things change.
And but it really did surprise me.
But maybe that's just more how people are now expecting refunds
for things, or a different bit of magic in a different way

(56:33):
because they didn't get 100% exactly what they were selling.
Well, not, not to deviate too much from the topic, but this,
this day and age, and as as muchas I love the Disney community
and the social media that goes around the Disney community,
everything is instant. Everything is instant.
Everything is a highlight reel. So the expectation for people

(56:54):
going over there who have spent a lot of money is to have that
same experience, have that highlight reel, have what
they've seen on the, on the vloggers and, and the Instagram
accounts. And when it doesn't necessarily
materialise the way it is, then people will be disappointed if
that is their expectation. You got to remember, especially
if you're talking to weather, you got to remember Walt Disney

(57:14):
World. It's magical as it is.
It's it's Florida and and weather is going to happen every
day like. It is.
It's rains in August and. You knew it.
They have a rainy season all theway from June to November.
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's the things that
even Disney can't control, even though I've seen all of those,

(57:36):
there's crazy posts that happen when there's a hurricane and
they closed the park and it's like, normally Disney aren't
prepared for this. And it's those sort of things
you think, like, really, the weather is something Disney car
could drop. Yeah.
I saw something, it was a like an AI because everything's AI
these days, like a a generated AI installation of a Dome that's
going to sit right above Walt Disney World to cater.

(57:58):
It will be perfect every time you go is.
It I think the niece of Effort is Lamparis.
It's very. True, very true.
Yeah, I think we got one more park to choose from.
So I've got in the morning. Animal Kingdom, where are you
going? Because it's, it's a difficult

(58:20):
one. Last time we did flight passage
it broke through and it was the worst decision we made that day.
We got there, I don't know, 25 past 7 for 7:30 early entry.
I think everyone else had turnedup as well.
So we, we got in that queue. We thought, oh, we'll have the
breakfast at Cetuli Canteen afterwards.
We were in that key for over 90 minutes last thing in the

(58:42):
morning when normally we've beenin previous and it's only been
30. So we we sort of regretted it
once we got through like we're starving.
We're like we need to fly a passage.
We're in the queue now. We did it had a good breakfast
afterwards. But then I looked at the queue
for like exhibition Everest, allthat time.
We could have been on that multiple times.
We could have been that dinosaurand pretty much done a lot of

(59:05):
other stuff in the park. So for me now looking at it, but
I think it's a better move to weshould have gone to Everest
because first time in the morning it's always a short key.
I think you spot on. I actually, I actually feel that
it's one of those places that everyone had still left.

(59:31):
And if you just basically put yourself in that boat where you
do the opposite of the masses. Yeah, because everyone's going
to flight a passage. Don't do Everest if you're there
for rope drop in particular, youknow you're going to get the
weather as well because actuallyflight a passage isn't quite a

(59:52):
good bet when the rain starts. And so you can actually, and the
queue line is out the way you will stay dry and it's also
conditioned. So what you will find is that if
you're going to Everest and thenthe weather comes in in the
afternoon, you're then going to be, well, I've done that, ticked
it off. I'm absolutely sorted and that's

(01:00:15):
and not for me. That's that is always why I
would always go for for every certainly on opening.
I just feel that that for me is it is one of the greatest rides
and I must admit it's one of therides that I would really love
to go and do a Christmas trip. Surely for the fact that I could
actually ride everything in the dark again.

(01:00:35):
Yes, because in the night time it is, it is a completely
different experience and it is such a beautifully lit ride and
just you don't experience that in the in the certainly in
August, you don't get the experience it it's fabulous.
It really is. And a lot of people have never

(01:00:57):
seen it like that. And I really, you know, even
even when they did the rivers oflight and you were in the park
and it was open late, I wouldn'tbother with rivers of light.
I would go and ride Everest repeatedly because it was like a
5 minute wait. And it was just like you were
just taken away by just how different the experiences when

(01:01:19):
it's dark. And I would never expect that.
And now that's one thing I really, I really do miss.
Yeah. What about you?
Everest. Everest is fab and I would, I
would love to, I'd love to have it all year round.
Having the ability to do it at night, because I agree, it just
elevates Disney at night is justmagical anyway.
But the retractions like Everestthat have that sort of like

(01:01:42):
projection of an evening, it's just fantastic.
But taking it back to daytime and early doors, I'm a
Kilimanjaro Safaris rope dropper.
It's it's my my perfect way is it's also obviously family
friendly, but it's my perfect way of starting an animal
Kingdom day of going to see the animals at the break of dawn and

(01:02:05):
hopefully getting a line chorus because let's face it, line
sleep for the majority of the time that you're going to be in
a park in animal Kingdom. So it's always nice to see them
active. Yeah, I always love that comment
when you're driving around and it's like letting me off.
Then they go, oh, yeah, cats sleep like the lion's asleep
like cats like 20-3 hours a day.Yeah.
Can you let? Me know where the one hour is
please it's. Never the same every day.

(01:02:27):
It isn't, it isn't, but that would be me.
I'd head to Harambe, go to Kilimanjaro safaris, get my feel
with some of the animals back row as well.
Guys, I would, I would request back row every time just so you
can turn around and get a littlebit more of the visibility of
the animals as well. Try and do it early.
If I can't do it early for whatever reason, it's it's one

(01:02:48):
of the last things I do in animal kingdoms, early doors or
late in the day. Yeah.
And it's always so it was closedabout an hour before park
closing. So even though when you're
planning your day, it's like nice to make sure I'm going to
do an afternoon or evening one. Just make sure you're there
beforehand. We've got called a couple of
times when we thought the park was closing at 7 and it was

(01:03:09):
actually closing at six. So by the time we got there at
5:30, thinking we can get on theSafari, it's like on it's
already closed. Yeah.
But something you don't know until you're there and in the
park and you see the sign that is closes up, the time it closes
that day. Yeah, good tip.
Yeah, good tip, but. Yeah, no, I love animal Kingdom.
I think as well, it's maybe worth mentioning that right now

(01:03:32):
I mentioned the fact that everything in the dark is
incredible. You got a flight of passage and
you got the whole the holy area of Pandora in the dark is just a
completely different experience.And and again, if you're there
in August previously they did open later.

(01:03:52):
They they haven't been and it itis just a sight to behold.
It really is. It's it just triggers so many
different. You might have been there like 3
hours previous when it was lightand you wouldn't believe you
were actually in the same place.Yeah.

(01:04:14):
I'm just like, Oh my word, I didn't, I didn't see this, but I
didn't see that I didn't spot this, but it's how it's been
laced, you know, the bioluminescent flooring.
It's just like it just changes your whole your whole experience
of being in a theme park. I really, you know, I know
recently I always I always, I always get a little bit uppity

(01:04:38):
about what Disney do and stuff like that.
But this this theme park as a asa whole becomes a completely
different entity in the dark andwe need to be given the
privilege to see it in the dark.There needs to be a petition
that keeps opens at least 9:00 PM.
Yeah, bit more. Often.
Isn't it a bit more often? Or if they do put that Dome over

(01:05:02):
the top, they can just change. The lighting no.
Here's our daytime nighttime they could keep.
They could keep fire loads at 3:00 in the afternoon, you
think? The Lights Out Simpsons Movie.
That's what I thought. That's what I thought.
Well. They haven't announced The
Simpsons, the sequel to that wasDisney are doing.
Yeah, yeah. Any company can do it.

(01:05:23):
They're. Going to be, yeah, there'll be
loads, there will be loads, absolutely loads.
I can't wait. Whenever we talked about Rome
job, I think we should finish bytalking.
Where would you end your day? What fireworks show?
Entertainment in evening are yougoing to?
And I know this is controversial.
I'm also going to let you chooseones that are no longer there

(01:05:44):
anymore. Oh no, it's because.
If your day was perfect and you're throwing all rules out,
and I know John's going to go eliminations, but.
No, no, I'm actually not. I'm choosing no one's Epcot.
Forever I. Absolutely love that show when

(01:06:07):
it was the original one with thejet skis and the kites and we
had the dream of what Harmoniouswas was going to be.
Oh. I'm going to go fantastic
because just that the music justwaving the arm just the one of
the best things going to see Fantasmic is just sitting in

(01:06:32):
sort of the Staley Marina sitting down and the pre show
music is just the best vibe. I find of is is the right sort
of music that gets you ready forthe show.
Everyone is smiling, happy doingMexican wave.
Everyone's it's. It's that new wave punk, kind

(01:06:54):
of. Yeah.
The versions of classic Disney music.
Yeah. And.
And it's all the films from the 90s, Yeah.
So you've got some Hercules, you've got Little Mermaid in the
Beast, you've got Gorilla. There's so many different
versions of songs. And it just sets.
I think it just sets the scene from that show.
No, I agree. And and actually I've got

(01:07:15):
someone in our house who who didmake a mention the fact that.
Well, if you're going to talk about going to the end of the
day, then Fantasmic has to be the only place that you finish
it off on that. And, and, and again, being a
junior waffler Josh, that's that's always been Josh's go to
and always will be. But since you've changed the

(01:07:37):
rules and things like that, thenI, I can't actually, I can't let
the show go without actually saying the fact that if we're
going old school, then I'd be going to Magic Kingdom.
I'd be going for spectro magic, followed by wishing, followed by
wishes and then that would be that would be perfection and it

(01:07:57):
would be the greatest day at Disney ever, full stop.
Take me back to 2010 before theygot the Main Street electrical
parade back again. And it just, it was just
perfection. It was truly the greatest way to
finish a Disney day and. Yeah, if if Disney needs an

(01:08:21):
idea, 1/5 park where what they need to do is to be able to
rotate full of nostalgia. So from attractions to shows to
fireworks to entertainment, bring back entertainment that
hasn't come back since COVID. It was just the Main St. trolley
show. Is the trolley show back?

(01:08:41):
And it can't be that difficult, can it?
Like, you know, it's a trolley with people singing and.
That magical express can't, isn't it?
Yeah, they could have a park that is just full of nostalgia
and things that because they always say that people don't
like change and especially with Thomas or Island changing
rhythms that you could give a place in Walt Disney World.

(01:09:08):
We could just look back into history.
So you could always have that time of going that that will
always be. We can change and move things
forward, but we can also look back and go.
That's what we experienced. I think you said this in a
podcast probably was it mid-july?
Was it Russ was on and we actually said that universal and

(01:09:30):
kind of setting themselves up for this with how the kind of
peeking back towards that whole bit with Jaws.
It's really because, yeah, subconsciously the Jaws mug made
our our Internet. I was just like how prominent
that now is within the park. But then we've also got

(01:09:52):
Ghostbusters making a return in the park and you're suddenly
thinking anger and they actuallysee that retro is actually
sellable and it, and it is actually something that's
welcomed. And in some, in some respects,
you know, even even when you go to Epic universe and you'd look
at the, the fountain show and look at the way that they got

(01:10:15):
the fountains. I, I still to this day think
they're actually having an absolute laugh at the fact that
Epcot got rid of the fountain ofnations.
That was, that was within the inthe middle of the park And, and,
and they're basically sticking 2fingers up and going.
Look, look, you used to have this and now we've got something
that's even more spectacular andwe're using water, which is

(01:10:38):
again, cheap. We've got music, we've got
people come in and gathering around it.
It works. Better than those light strips
that are supposed to light up the web celebration gardens.
Let's not go. Let's not go there, Ben.
That's that. Yeah.
But that's that's the epitome of.
You can have sparky avement everywhere in just like a
Hamish. Yeah, it was just.

(01:11:01):
Yeah, but retro is is something that I feel is such a big thing
because actually you can try andrein and them and you can try
and change. But sometimes people want what's
familiar and want bring bring horizons back.
Oh yes. Yeah.
And just just little things likeit'd be, it'd be amazing.

(01:11:23):
I just think that the use of technology as well with virtual
reality and so many different projection mappings that you
could bring these sort of experiences back, whether it be
in a new format or just something different.
I think it's something that you could do.
But I know Disney probably more loads introduce a new hotel than
they are a fifth class. True, it's true.

(01:11:46):
You've seen the size of the new the new DVC product that's.
Yeah, it looks amazing. I can't wait to go there.
And I think Becca's still calling.
It was Reflections, but now. It was Lakeshore Lodge, that's
right. So it's definitely one that's
going to be on our list, but we were having lunch at Geyser
Point and we're just looking across and seeing all these

(01:12:08):
cranes and like that's going to be an incredible resource.
Oh, it looks fantastic. Yeah, lazy river as well.
So hopefully we get a little bitof that'd have been nostalgia
with River Country. Oh, that.
'D be cool, wouldn't it? Yeah.
If we're if we're making a nostalgia theme park and we
could have like a river country land, that would be right up my
street for sure. That'd.

(01:12:29):
Be amazing, but that. 'D be totally appropriate for
the place as well. And I think that's, you know, I,
I, I think, I think we're on to something there.
So, Adam, why were you finishingyour Disney Day?
That you probably saw me just nodding to base with you while
you were talking about if I could just say it.

(01:12:50):
Never timed right. You could try and get all four
in one day, but unfortunately that that's doesn't tend to
happen with Epcot and Magic Kingdom.
No, no, exactly. The Fantasmic will always be
let's especially current offerings will always be up
there. It's just as you said, it's it's
the vibe of the place as well asthe performance is the

(01:13:13):
atmosphere. It's the atmosphere outside.
You know, once you once you've got past the bottleneck and
you're just spilling out into Hollywood studios at night, it's
a magical feeling as well with Tower of Terror or lit up.
And there's some about Spectrum magic and wishes coming back.
Sorry. If if it was it was from any

(01:13:34):
time then then I would be sat next to John eating popcorn and
and taking in Spectro again for sure, yeah.
Yeah. We never got a chance to see it.
Oh, it's beautiful. But the thing out Ben and and I
think this is this is the other thing that it it is something

(01:13:54):
that I don't quite know. I'm maybe maybe maybe I'm in
that bit where today. Yeah, I've watched some people
drag really badly today. And you when you're thinking the
roads in this country never usedto be like.
I'm very much into this bit of looking back at where did we all

(01:14:16):
go wrong? But going back to Spectro and
wishes it was it you all came together.
It was it was a collective sharing of your own Disney Day.
And it was beautiful because actually you had stress.
Maybe maybe it's because we're young kids, so I don't know.
But you came together and you were able to discuss like we are

(01:14:39):
able to do online and share witheveryone, share with everyone on
a Wednesday night. But I would I would actually
talk about this. And what's really interesting,
we got sidetracked on the mid month show, which is out in a
few days time, where we managed to get Katie Wetzel back on the
show. And it was it was an emotional

(01:15:02):
roller coaster. I will say that.
Now, if you want, if you listen to that in the next week, be
warned. It it does.
Yeah, I think, I think we we push Katie to the limit and but
we but we're talking about this.It's the whole fact that you
were there and everyone came together.
And it's this togetherness that I really feel is so important

(01:15:26):
that somehow we need to bring that as as a big part of not
just what we do as a show, but as a community and as people who
are making Disney content is thefact that talk about and talk to
each other. Because actually, some of those
links that we make, you make. And I'll even go back to how I

(01:15:48):
first met Claire. Yeah, we're both doing the same
family tour away back in the day.
I don't think we actually talkedan awful lot on that occasion.
However, we've made-up for it since.
And but you, that was the whole bit.
It wasn't about just yourself. It was about the whole
experience, the whole park and coming together at the end of

(01:16:09):
the day to share that bit of Disney magic.
And not for me. It still hasn't really come
back. And and even with Starlight, I
need to give. I have said I will give it a few
more years worth of let's see where we go with this.

(01:16:29):
I won't, I won't slag it off completely just yet.
But it's the lacking, it's lacking that emotional bit for
me. It's lacking people.
Yeah, yeah. In the Paradis, I feel like it's
they've gone like here, here's our people budget that we've got
for entertainment. That's half that.
We don't need as many. I think you're right.

(01:16:50):
All right, I think you're right.But it's one is one of those
things, would I rather have someentertainment than none
entertainment at all? Absolutely.
I would definitely, yeah. So, and I think that's something
it's the end of the day is always something I always look
forward to on a Disney day, which I know sounds really
strange because I was like beingon holiday and going like, oh,

(01:17:11):
I've got 14 days ahead of this. I want to repeat this 14 times.
And which makes even even more difficult when it gets to the
end of your trip. And then you just realise that,
oh, I'm now going back to MCO orTampa airport.
I've got to fly home. And how many times have we have
looked at flights or sitting in the departure lounge thinking

(01:17:31):
like we need to come back? And even people talk about the
DC Blues. Some people don't think they
exist. I think we'll get sad coming off
a holiday, but there's somethingabout just being in a place that
we love. Just whether the weather is cold
or whether it's hot. We'll go to Florida of different
reasons. Just.

(01:17:54):
It's just. I think, I think as well, Ben,
I'm, I know we're running out oftime and stuff, but let's get
rid of that whole thing about perfection.
Because I think as Adam said earlier in the show, everybody
looks at people's real, that little 60 seconds worth of
Instagram or whatever social media and this.

(01:18:15):
Oh, I want to, I want to be thatperson.
I'm really sorry at the age I'm the same age as Sesame Street.
I say again, do the maths on that please, because actually I
don't like to, but but I might be in that old and grumpy kind
of stage in your life. But actually I'm looking back

(01:18:39):
and I'm thinking people are really unrealistic.
And actually let's get let's getthe realism back and let's enjoy
the realism and let's get that that real joy, that childlike
joy back into your whole thinking.
And I did talk, we did talk to Katie and I think I mentioned, I

(01:19:00):
don't know, it's in the show or out the show or whatever.
But that whole bit when I hadn'tbeen able to go into the Disney
park for five years and it was such a hard time as and as a
family, it was a hard time. But that whole bit of, and I
filmed it and it was such AI felt it was the most stupid bit
of filming until I watched it back closely.

(01:19:23):
And at one point, my very first day back in Magic Kingdom,
there's a look in my eye where the magic reignited.
And after being away for five years, that was quite a thing.
And I didn't recognize it at thetime.
But then looking back myself, I'm just, I saw the moment in

(01:19:43):
which it was just something switched on within my brain and
within my eyes. And you're just like, wow,
that's what it means to be within that place as opposed to
being in the middle of Greece orSpain or whatever.
It's magical, it really is, and that's what we really need to

(01:20:06):
build up again and make people aware that that's why we keep
going back one of the. Best days from our trip in
August was actually when we spent the evening at Claire's
with with you John family and just it was one of those sort of
times We just put all out of theparks were just in in the villa,
just just eating Chinese, havingfood, patching up, chatting and

(01:20:31):
just just enjoying each other's company.
Yeah, I'm going to turn that. I'm going to turn that around
because Adam, you said you're going back next.
You're you're there next August.Yes, yeah.
What day we are there from the 4th?
4th of August new diary where there at the same time I'm going

(01:20:53):
to and that's and that's the whole thing.
Let's go and share this whole thing.
And that's actually spend a bit of time and we can do that
because actually, I think it's really important because we do
so much of this online as in different parts of the country.
And again, looking back at how many different people are in the
chat and how how many people keep coming back to the chat on

(01:21:15):
on a Wednesday. And we really appreciate that.
It's the whole thing about coming together and being
together. And and Ben, that's exactly it.
You know, you know, there's so few times in the six years of
doing this when we've actually we've actually met face to face.
But when we do, you realize why we do this and actually you

(01:21:36):
realize why Disney is a a unifier and it it brings out a
little bit of magic in all of us.
Were you saying, John, about Spectrum magic and wishes and
that time when it was that gathering of people in Main
Street watching both the nighttime parade and also
wishes? And then you think about Ben's
answer and the current offering in my perspective of Fantasmic.

(01:21:59):
Yeah. As we said, the show is, is one
thing is is fantastic and pun intended, but also it's because
we're getting a community of people sat down doing Mexican
waves, interacting with people. How many times do you say next
to someone watching Fantasmic and you're talking about your
day and interacting with people around you?
It's that community aspect. So it's, it is still there and

(01:22:21):
it will be the the unifier as you put, which is, which is the
perfect word for it. It's the unifier of of people
who have that like minded passion for Disney, Disney parks
coming together and being able to experience it together.
And as well, though, Adam, you when you think that I know we
haven't spoken about illuminations, but that whole

(01:22:42):
that whole moment before illumination started right about
the gathering, gathering around the fire.
And then the whole that that that monologue before each of
those fires are blown out beforethe 1st moment of illuminations.
And, and even I even told you now that it makes the hers on

(01:23:04):
the back of your neck standard because actually it was so
powerful, but it was it was thatexact same thing.
It was coming together and sharing your part day.
And I think it's it's it's trulybeautiful.
Yeah. I absolutely love that.
It's a great way to end the show, I think, talking about
Illuminations. So Adam, want to say huge thank

(01:23:24):
you for joining us tonight. Can you let our listeners and
viewers know where they can catch you?
Yeah, absolutely. Just before I do that, thank you
kindly for both of you for for inviting me back.
It's been it's been perfect to talk about a perfect Disney day
with you guys. So I I appreciate it.
You can find me over on demo Shitdis on Instagram, YouTube,

(01:23:44):
TikTok, the demo Shitdis podcast, of course, across
platforms. I Co host the disload, which is
the monthly news Disney news podcast as well.
And I sometimes contribute to Brit's guide to DBC with a good
friend Kev. So check us out there.
That's a bit expensive, isn't it?
Hey, you're my my Mrs. give me grief.

(01:24:05):
I was on that that really different places and.
Oh, yeah, thank you. And it's been great to talk
about the perfect Disney Day. And I think the best thing is
that your day doesn't have to beperfect.
It's just to be magical and justgo and enjoy it, whether you're
up early, taking a break midday just to get that extra snack or

(01:24:28):
two in, or a lap round at calleddrinking as some of us do, or
just finishing. The 9th not me or.
Finishing the day with fireworksand that final days of Disney
magic. So I think that's a recipe for
Disney Day, whatever it looks like for you, I think.
I think you've also plugged plugged the mid month there

(01:24:48):
because the words are from our guest on the mid month is let's
go with the flow and that's exactly.
It I can't wait to start editingthat show that he's only out in
three days time, so I better start doing that.
It was, it was beautiful. I I can't wait to feel it.
And then when you said it was the motion of roller coaster,

(01:25:09):
that's probably why I'm not edited just yet.
It's lovely. No, it's, it is, it is one of
those shows that you get somebody and, and again, like,
like with Adam is, is like minded people come in and
sharing just a chat and just a shared love of life.
And, and, and this is how important I think in this day
and age when so many different things go on and people talk

(01:25:32):
about mental health and it's like the mid month show is the
most beautiful thing. And I actually, because we could
have spoke for about 3 hours, you'll be thankful when you go
to edit. It's not that.
It's just you're all right. Mate, but I was just got to be
couldn't join because the we hada power cut for two hours I.
Know and we were great we were great so we we gave you a

(01:25:55):
mention as well because actuallyand I said to Katie he was just
like poor Ben he's going to be he's going missing us so much
and. We thought about as we drive
down to the nearest McDonald's to join the Wi-Fi, but I'm not
sure whether we could have like phone and camera and everything
without ordering lots of food. I mean, yeah, we've might got
some in the background on that one as well.

(01:26:16):
Yeah. But do go and listen to it.
It is, it is life affirming, I think is the way it is, the way
I would describe it, because sheis just a bundle of energy and a
bundle of positivity. And that's that's what we love.
That's that's the whole thing about Disney is that being
positive. There's so much negative in the
news in the world and there's no, we just focus on being

(01:26:39):
positive and counting down to you.
Next is the trip which we alwayswish you sooner than than we
want. How many of us are going to be
singing Go with a Flow until they go to bed?
Now that's the. That's the.
Question, sorry, that's. Still better than nothing can
stop us now. But yeah, if you've got your own
idea of your perfect busy day, please let us know the comments.

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So we have podcast the job on the 1st and 15th of every month.
We'll be back next Wednesday formore UK to Orlando fun.

(01:27:24):
We want to take you from the UK and take you to Orlando.
That's why we do. That's why the only reason we do
this, but it's just. Because we can just.
We can just. We can pass for.
An hour or so and just imagine us in that freezing cold
Orlando, OK? -5. -5 it's just like being at
home, isn't it? So yeah, thank you again and and

(01:27:47):
we'll see you soon. We'll see you real soon.
Now my wheels in motion.

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