May 2, 2025 • 27 mins
Today's Mystery: Johnny goes to a small New Jersey town to investigate a fire that destroyed the home of a much-despised citizen.
Original Radio Broadcast Date:January 26, 1958
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Starring: Bob Bailey as Johnny Dollar; Vic Perrin; Forrest Lewis; Virginia Gregg; Will Wright; Parley Baer
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Original Radio Broadcast Date:January 26, 1958
Originating from Hollywood
Starring: Bob Bailey as Johnny Dollar; Vic Perrin; Forrest Lewis; Virginia Gregg; Will Wright; Parley Baer
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.
This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're
going to get into this week's episode of Yours Truly
Johnny Dollar. But first, if you are enjoying the podcast,
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dot Great Detectives dot net. Well, this is one of
the newer Johnny Dollar episodes to being in circulation. We
(01:11):
played at back in twenty twenty three, about two years
ago in honor of the one hundred and tenth birthday
of Bob Bailey, but I figured there would be enough
time between that occasion and this first to go ahead
and play this. The original air at eight January twenty sixth,
nineteen fifty eight. And this one is the fire in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Matter Hollywood, It's time no for.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Johnny Dollars, Hi bred Haney fourth Day Fire and Casualty.
Oh Hi, have Freddy got.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
A free day on your schedule? For a pretty routine case.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sure, I want to see me in your office.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Johnny, I want to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
In Paradise, Honey, Allow to see you? And what'd you say? Paradise?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Paradise, New Jersey?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Is it? We're worries about.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Fifty miles south of Philadelphia, about fifty miles west of
Atlantic City. So if you take it trained out of Philly,
far plane, Oh, you and your fancy expending out. Okay,
if you take a plane to Philly, you can rent
a car there.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And just what am I supposed to do in Paradise?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Find out how much accident insurance we have to pay
to one Joshua Swimming, probably the most finicky Penny Finching
client we have hurt in the.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Fire that destroyed his home, the home in sure too.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, but okay, the payment on that will be just routine.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Routine.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
When somebody talks like that, I guess suspicious.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I assure you Johnny that, except perhaps for Joshua himself,
it is just routine.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah. I wonder. Bob Bailey and the Exciting Adventures of
a Man with the Action Tactic spens to Call America
is fabulous. Freelanced insurance investigator es Tully Johnny Dellar Expense
(03:11):
accounts sufitted by Special Investigator Johnny Dollars a Forestate fire
intentionally insurance company home office hard for connetics. Following is
an account of expenses incurred during my investigation of the
fire in Paradise. Matter expense A commat of one eighteen
dollars in the quarter playing fair An Incidental's Hartford the Philadelphia.
(03:33):
I had them two fifty dollars deposit on the drive
your own car. I had them three dollars and a
half a road maps in New Jersey. On the third
one I managed to locate the little town of Paradise,
so I hit the highway. The flat sandy plains of
South Jersey looked pretty bare, almost unfriendly at this time
of year. I missed the color, the lush green farms,
(03:53):
the blossoming peach and apple orches that make it so
attractive during the summer month. By dint of losing my
way a couple of times. However, I Soun's color in
the names of some of the towns I've had through
Mulika Hill, Deer Sounds, Old Tavern, Deerfield Street, Elmer, and Shirley.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Current.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Ice was a tiny shopping center in the midst of Farmland,
the short main street, and I handled up stores at
the mobile gas station. I asked where I might find
the sheriff, And right here in front of you, mister
gariff luster hoping. Oh well, sheriff, my name is just
call me Luke. Everybody else okay, Luke. My name is
Johnny Dollar. I'm an insurance investigator. No, you're Johnny. You
(04:30):
must bear on account of jasuit trimming. And that's right.
I understand his home burns down and he was injured
in the process. As he's home all right to hold kippykboogle.
But he wasn't badly hurt. It's no matter how you
look at it. Now where you know the old where
you know Joshua, what do you mean? He was hurt
all right? But how bad? Is something else? Again? Just
what happened?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Luke?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
What's there, Johnnie? Over there beyond the Hartshoots General Store. Yeah, oh,
I see that the remains of US attorney's house. Now
that's not much more than a couple of city blocks
from here, is it. That's said? That's about right. And
I was working Friday night here at the gas station late.
So what happened, Johnny, I was looking right at Joshua's house,
wondering why he's gone to bed too early. The only
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light on was in his bedroom upstairs. I see. I
sure that fire started pretty fast. I'll grant you that,
just being and the whole parlor was laying. Oh that's
the point is being a fire marshal too. I hit
the siren and in less than two three minutes, me
and the volunteers and the chemical cruck was over there
holding it down. What would he wait for us? Oh?
Oh he had to jump out of his bedroom winning
(05:34):
and get all banged up. Well, I don't see exactly
if you asked me, it was just quick thinking on
that old Chisler's park to get some more insurance money.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Sure, even if we got the fire out in time
to savor his place, well, that'd hed be sure to
collect something on the accident. In sure. Yeah, he just
like you don't like Joshua coming very well too. Why
do you say that? You say you and the volunteer
fire company got there within two or three in the
time the fire started four or more. All right, the
(06:03):
chemical truck right here back at the stace. But you
didn't say Josh was turning his house. Why not, because
it went up so fast? That's all. How the fire start?
You know? Well, probably that old heater he had down
in the parlor. Sure for what else, that's where the
blade started. I could see it. You don't like Johns.
I made no bones about it, the tight fisted old. Look,
(06:26):
he's the only man in terr guy that doesn't work
for a living. He's retired.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
But does he spend his money here?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Sure? He even goes over to sale and we're bridged
in to buy his grocery. So he made himself a
couple of pennies. Wait a minute, Wait a minute dollars.
Well you're saying you think maybe I let his plate
burn down.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That's what you mean.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I didn't say that, but that's what you meant. It
could be a possibility. All right. Look, I could run
you out of town, Johnny. I've got the authority, don't
you forget that. Where I find Jesus Joe Pasqually plays
about a mile down the road toward Gahansey. But now
look here, Oh, stop worrying, Luke. I just want to
see about his injuries and if he has any better
(07:06):
ideas about how the fireman started, Johnny, if you remember
what I said, but not being able to get that
fire out, No about maybe running you out of town.
You know, if you would have talked of the police
like that, I am the police. Well you've certainly built
up a nice case against yourself. I'll theolytic driving to
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the PASTORALI farm meant passing what was left a johsh
was turning tow instead of passing. I stopped. From the
insurance standpoint, it was pretty much the total laws. But
enough of the frame was standing to reveal to the
rather interesting thing. Could the sheriff's fire chief Luke Hopkins
have overlooked him?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Or was he just being very careful not to call
attention to him? I wondered, I'm coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
That's that to you.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
My name is Dollar. I understand mister Joshua turning.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Ducks in his room with the doctor, doctor more even
the doctor lead.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
You'll see him come in, all right, Da la la
bata wine genu wine, the California wine.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well fine, but a little later, mister PORTFOLI I take
it mister Tremmings is bording with you. What else can
I do?
Speaker 7 (08:50):
He long has the money for the thieves for the pertalizer.
And when he says he's going to stay dear, what.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Can I do? Maybe I see him?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
You take some of the busy charge make for the
money we give my husband is a big pot from Josh?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
What training? I take it all? So you don't like it?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I don't like him. Nobody like you?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Tell me something? Did he and Sheriff Hopkins ever have
any trouble all the time?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Always a big pie, such a mess. No, no of
the house he's place to make up? How look like?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And doumb that's hard any reason?
Speaker 7 (09:27):
All the money he makes from his loaning to the
people carefully, he's really.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Mad about it? About how much did he charged? Ten
twenty percent? Too much? Well?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Usually is a pretty serious thing.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
So how you gonna prove nothing he's ever put on
the paper there for Louca telling he's gonna get here
more of sounds something like that the way the other
he's going to get here?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Mar What did you say?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Nothing? Oh? Here comes to my rage.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
If you had a mind so you could get up
and dance to God when you know it, mister, this
is one time you're gonna pay your bill for my services.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Don't you remember that I'll pay you when I get
paid by the in trunk.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, oh, no, that nonsense. Sit down here and.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Oh I'm Johnny Dollar. Doctor. Mary's an the insurance coming
about time you got here, and I hope you bought
in trunk check along. Well, that may be forthcoming later, later, later.
Yours is a round unique policy, mister turning is the
special accident clause. That is what's done you you're about
wanting payment. If I'm interestating, you call yourself incapacitated in
the sense of the intent express in your policy. What's
(10:48):
th't you see with your own eyes? Every time I
try to move my name?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Oh oh, doctor, can't you give me something?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Just use that leg of bit and you'll be all
right you now, look here, look here, I've got some
other calls to make. I'll see you tomorrow if you
are sure you want another call on your bill. Good
buy missus.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Dollar, goodbye, Mary.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I'll walk to the telling me you you kill him, doctor,
you tell him how bad I hurt?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I don't know what to tell you, miss the Dollar.
I can't find anything wrong with him except for a
few minor bruises. He waited until they got there with
the fire ladders instead of jumping out the window. He'd
almost think he's gonna deliberately. The collectrum is insurance, the
old money grabbing. And I'm sorry he couldn't talk about
a hid man to get along with him, Ask Sheriff Luke,
(11:41):
there's a man really stuffers with him? Oh? Not the
man Joshuh will make calls him all hours of the night,
think to hear his prowers.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Wants Luke to do something about it.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Wants Luke to clear up the trash is on his plate,
his own crash once a dirt road sprinkle.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Every day during the summer, racers.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Came with Luke about oh about a million inconsequential things.
The sheriff putty well fed up with him, even as
you are.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Even as we all are. And Luke isn't the man.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
To fool with. About the fire doctan, Yes, well, I'm
no expert, but a couple of things I saw that
It made me wonder the.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
House found up in an awful hurry.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I was like that. It looked to me as though
the blaze must have started in not one, but several places.
It's simultaneously any So, of course, if there was a
ghast leet somewhere downstairs something like no, no, no, he
didn't use gas, it was too expensive. How back in
the kitchen he used the coal oil range. Had a
pop bellied coal stove in the living room heat. But
even if that stove was in poor condition, which it was,
(12:40):
you're you're thinking that maybe someone burned him out. Aren't
just a dollars oh doctor who almost anybody in town
would be glad to see him go, especially little Compkin, Yes, especially.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
In just a minute.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Wow, I've known Luke for over twenty years. He's a
good man, an honest man, has a tremendous sense of
duty to the peace.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Full of this time Hugh knows he doesn't like.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And encodes Joshua trimmings that includes Joshua.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So if you think for one minute.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
A man's patience can sometimes you pushed only so far doctings.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Non, No, mister Dollar, You're wrong, dead wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Why I myself would be more likely to well if
I had a real cause is you've better be careful?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Sure, I think I'll take another look at the place
before I talk further with mister turning. When you better hurry,
it's getting late, and it looks like you're gonna have
some raine. Yeah, you'll be around, won't you. Yes, I'll
be at my You don't seriously suspect me. I hope
that is, if you do find real evidence of Boston
should I? I had him for twenty six cents for
(13:48):
a loaf of bread at the general's store and the
hope of using it as a test for traces of kerostine.
But I was raining cats and dogs by the time
I got back to the ruins of Trimmings home. Not
good rain obliterates signs of Barson as much as fire itself.
I parked my car up at the mailbox and poked
around for a few minutes. We got nowhere, but now
it's so dark, and going back to the car, I
(14:09):
ran into the mailbox almost on a hunch. I opened
I took out the content, and then stoop over the
headlights of my car. I carefully read a couple of
the letters from the telephone company, the electric company, just
routine letters, but to me a definite time that Trimming's
home had been burned down deliberately. The first real clue
(14:31):
I had, and not a pretty one. I expended the
count item five ninety cents. First of the person called
(14:51):
a fret, Hanian Hartford from Sheriff Luke Compkin's filming stations.
I saw your headlines, Johnny over there where Jereg Truman's
house was. Yeah, and I found something there a little bit.
Hello friends, Johnny Dollar, Yeah, yeah, was just one thing.
What business was he in? Ah?
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, well then this wasn't the first. Okay, okay, you
say you you found something to work Triming's face, something
that indicates pretty clearly that the fire was set. And listen, lope, no, no,
now you listen, Johnny. My job is to enforce the
law around here, not bring it. Yeah, okay, we'll see, Gus.
How much you mean that? Come on? Oh, mister doll
(15:51):
on a chair?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Could you call me and not the rain? Good the
way I caught you?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Nice to glass wall. Maybe later missus calling. Wait he
walked out of here with a doctor Murray and oh yeah,
I'm an insurance investigative, mister turning dynoid. I've been investigating
did you come back here to fool the insurance even
for my injury. I've been investigating the fire at your home.
I'm convinced that it was Arsen that it was carefully
(16:19):
deliberately set and get this no good chair here to
do something. You mean he did it, Yes, of course
he did. He's been threatening for years to get me
out of this town one way or another. He ain't
that crue chair? Well yeah the way? Well yeah, you
know wat he not only set the fire, but he
let my house burn down? Is that what John Albinson dollar?
I understand he and the volunteers got there within a
(16:42):
few minutes after it started. Oh sure, they got there
fast enough, probably to cover up for his starting fire.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He got there so fast.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Why don't you see if he hadn't known it was
going to go up? Yeah, I thought of that. Golly,
I'm so glad when I collect my insurance and get
well enough away burn people like him back. I want
you both to listen to me for a minute. Go
right ahead, mister Trimmings. Did you pick up the mail
for your mailbox on Friday? What? Noah, don't believe it is.
(17:11):
I'm sure you were too busy too. What ask any
big city company arsen squad who runs up against this
sort of thing all the time, And he'll tell you
that when he sees unpaid bills for water, electricity, telephone
lying around. It's one of the short signs of planned
arsens After all, why bother paying the bills if you're
going to burn up the place his mailbox. Yeah, last warnings.
(17:34):
And unless he paid his bills to the phone company here,
that's hampering the United States mail Look, mister Trimmings within
the doll business before he came here, where I made
the money to retire. What he retired on was the
insurance he collected when his plant burned up. He made
little celluloid dolls, chupy, that sort of thing. And if
(17:56):
anybody knows about the inflammability of cellularize, I see suture
this loop, long stripped of celluloid, laid to the corners
of his living room from a central point. Yeah, at
the end of each one, a rag or maybe just
a carpet soak with gastantly, not enough to leave a trace,
but enough to start the fire. But I don't see
at the center on top of the cenuloid stripped the
short lighted candle. When it burned down to the celluloid fang,
(18:18):
the whole place was on fire. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, he had
plenty of time to go upstairs, stay there with a
light song. Perfect alibi. You saw him up there when
the fire started loose, so you back up his alibi.
I had no idea. Yeah, that fire was as safe
as the injury to his leg. He's trying to collect arms. Yeah, yeah, sure,
(18:40):
I thought you couldn't stand up you who I did?
Go ahead and true, I didn't have one shred of
it turning What that was all guests words? You mean
you just talked yourself out of a lot of insurance
money in front of witness and probably into a nice
(19:01):
long prison. Gun Oh Rice Frankling a little on mister trimming.
Maybe he'll come too. He did, and he went quietly,
and I'm sure his confession will stand up in court
(19:21):
when you take whatever legal action is necessary. And as
long as I've stayed the company a big pilot doel
EXPENSI total including incidentals, a weekend in Atlantic City, incidentals,
fair back to Hartford and incidentals two hundred dollars and
twenty eight cents yours truly journeyed.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Up, welcome back. I should go ahead and share the
cast not available in the recording, but courtesy of John
(20:02):
Abbott in his book, The Who Is Johnny Dollar Matter?
The cast is Vic Perrin, fors Lewis Virginia, Greg will Wright,
and Harley Bear. And he got that from the scripts
at the Thousand Oaks Library, which I believe since have
been relocated to the Pailey Center at UCLA. I have
(20:25):
to admit that I was really impressed by the doctor's loyalty.
There's friendship and then there's offering yourself up as a
suspect in an arson to an insurance investigator. I continue
to maintain that if you're a police officer who casually
threatens to throw an investigator out of town who asks
(20:47):
you questions, you're not actually a good guy, and really
you can't do that. This is nineteen fifty eight, not
eighteen eighty eight in the Old West. If Luke were
to actually they try to drive Johnny out of town,
he'd called the insurance Commission and the state police. Finally,
(21:07):
while I am appreciative of Johnny's solution, particularly once he
got over the disappointment of not being able to eat
bread flavored with kerosene, yet again, the payoff feels cheap
because Johnny had only speculation and hunches and no evidence.
But I suppose there are people who will confess if
(21:30):
you essentially are able to guess everything they do. Also,
Joshua was probably right that Johnny didn't have any right
to open his mail, so Johnny would potentially be in
trouble over something like that. Most people who are facing
potential jail time for insurance fraud wouldn't waste their time
(21:55):
on trying to get the investigator prosecuted for their mail,
particularly since that's not going to be the big evidence
against him, rather his own confession witnessed by multiple witnesses.
But from everything we learned of josh in this episode, yeah,
he totally would prosecute Johnny over that. All right, well,
(22:18):
listener comments and feedback now, and we start on YouTube
with a comment regarding the boron one twelve matter. This
was a strange one, but then again it was a
George Reid case. Yeah, I think that that's right. Anytime
George Reid makes the call, you have to brace yourself
(22:40):
for something weird to happen, and certainly that's Johnny's approach.
Then we go and then we go to Facebook, where
Steven writes regarding an ad on a recent Johnny Dollar
episode concerning chef Boyardy Pizza. My mom made pizza from
(23:02):
the Sheep Boyardy box all the way through the seventies
and eighties. It was the pizza I ate on my
growing years. As far as I know, it's still available
at Walmart. I was able to confirm that it is
indeed still available at Walmart. I don't recall if I
said anything about it. I've never experienced that myself, but yeah,
(23:27):
that definitely does still exist. Stephen also writes, I want
to thank you for several podcasts that I've discovered because
of you. The first was The Old Time Radio Westerns.
Because Andrew helps with your podcasts, I started following. I
love Old Time Radio in classic comedy of Old Time
Radio because of your crossover podcasts. Most recently, I added
(23:48):
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their strength and weaknesses, but the Great Detectives of Old
Time Radio has the best community commentary and interaction of
any of the podcasts. Someone complained about your commentary picking
on details. Keep it up. This is why we listen
to your podcast. I hope you find comfort in the
(24:09):
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I appreciate your kind words. Now it's time to thank
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Speaker 8 (25:18):
Well, that's come out of our pockets a terrible things, terrible.
I don't know what I'm going to do. Hey, that's
congregation for it. Their offerings have always been so generous
and they're not wealthy. They're just working people. When was
the last time that you heard from this mister MSUs
Herbert Reveren week ago? I guess yes, it was last Monday.
(25:39):
I got anxious and called them at their hotel. It's
on South Grand I can give you the address. They
told me when the books would be ready, and said
it would be on Tuesday. It's the last I heard them.
No forwarding address, no other place that you think we
might find them. No, I'm sorry, just don't have any idea.
So hard to believe anyone would.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Do such a thing too.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Yes, see, when if we could have the adverst of
their hotel? Yes, all right, if you'll come with me,
I have it over the house. Did did mister and
missus Herbert have a car?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Do you know?
Speaker 8 (26:08):
Rev? I don't think so. If they did, I never
saw it. Don't know what I'm going to tell with
congregation eight hundred dollars, that's a lot of money to
our people. Yes, tell me, sergeant, I don't mean to
be uncharitable, but mister and missus Herbert they have a
criminal record. Have they done this sort of thing before? Well?
(26:29):
Their description seem to fit a couple that we've been
looking for. They've been working at churches in this area
on and off for a couple of years now. I
can't understand why they do such a thing. It's almost
like robbing at poor Box. Yes, so they've done that too.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
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the newer Johnny Dollar episodes to being in circulation. We
(01:11):
played at back in twenty twenty three, about two years
ago in honor of the one hundred and tenth birthday
of Bob Bailey, but I figured there would be enough
time between that occasion and this first to go ahead
and play this. The original air at eight January twenty sixth,
nineteen fifty eight. And this one is the fire in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Matter Hollywood, It's time no for.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Johnny Dollars, Hi bred Haney fourth Day Fire and Casualty.
Oh Hi, have Freddy got.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
A free day on your schedule? For a pretty routine case.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sure, I want to see me in your office.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Johnny, I want to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
In Paradise, Honey, Allow to see you? And what'd you say? Paradise?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Paradise, New Jersey?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Is it? We're worries about.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Fifty miles south of Philadelphia, about fifty miles west of
Atlantic City. So if you take it trained out of Philly,
far plane, Oh, you and your fancy expending out. Okay,
if you take a plane to Philly, you can rent
a car there.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And just what am I supposed to do in Paradise?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Find out how much accident insurance we have to pay
to one Joshua Swimming, probably the most finicky Penny Finching
client we have hurt in the.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Fire that destroyed his home, the home in sure too.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, but okay, the payment on that will be just routine.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Routine.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
When somebody talks like that, I guess suspicious.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I assure you Johnny that, except perhaps for Joshua himself,
it is just routine.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah. I wonder. Bob Bailey and the Exciting Adventures of
a Man with the Action Tactic spens to Call America
is fabulous. Freelanced insurance investigator es Tully Johnny Dellar Expense
(03:11):
accounts sufitted by Special Investigator Johnny Dollars a Forestate fire
intentionally insurance company home office hard for connetics. Following is
an account of expenses incurred during my investigation of the
fire in Paradise. Matter expense A commat of one eighteen
dollars in the quarter playing fair An Incidental's Hartford the Philadelphia.
(03:33):
I had them two fifty dollars deposit on the drive
your own car. I had them three dollars and a
half a road maps in New Jersey. On the third
one I managed to locate the little town of Paradise,
so I hit the highway. The flat sandy plains of
South Jersey looked pretty bare, almost unfriendly at this time
of year. I missed the color, the lush green farms,
(03:53):
the blossoming peach and apple orches that make it so
attractive during the summer month. By dint of losing my
way a couple of times. However, I Soun's color in
the names of some of the towns I've had through
Mulika Hill, Deer Sounds, Old Tavern, Deerfield Street, Elmer, and Shirley.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Current.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Ice was a tiny shopping center in the midst of Farmland,
the short main street, and I handled up stores at
the mobile gas station. I asked where I might find
the sheriff, And right here in front of you, mister
gariff luster hoping. Oh well, sheriff, my name is just
call me Luke. Everybody else okay, Luke. My name is
Johnny Dollar. I'm an insurance investigator. No, you're Johnny. You
(04:30):
must bear on account of jasuit trimming. And that's right.
I understand his home burns down and he was injured
in the process. As he's home all right to hold kippykboogle.
But he wasn't badly hurt. It's no matter how you
look at it. Now where you know the old where
you know Joshua, what do you mean? He was hurt
all right? But how bad? Is something else? Again? Just
what happened?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Luke?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
What's there, Johnnie? Over there beyond the Hartshoots General Store. Yeah, oh,
I see that the remains of US attorney's house. Now
that's not much more than a couple of city blocks
from here, is it. That's said? That's about right. And
I was working Friday night here at the gas station late.
So what happened, Johnny, I was looking right at Joshua's house,
wondering why he's gone to bed too early. The only
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light on was in his bedroom upstairs. I see. I
sure that fire started pretty fast. I'll grant you that,
just being and the whole parlor was laying. Oh that's
the point is being a fire marshal too. I hit
the siren and in less than two three minutes, me
and the volunteers and the chemical cruck was over there
holding it down. What would he wait for us? Oh?
Oh he had to jump out of his bedroom winning
(05:34):
and get all banged up. Well, I don't see exactly
if you asked me, it was just quick thinking on
that old Chisler's park to get some more insurance money.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Sure, even if we got the fire out in time
to savor his place, well, that'd hed be sure to
collect something on the accident. In sure. Yeah, he just
like you don't like Joshua coming very well too. Why
do you say that? You say you and the volunteer
fire company got there within two or three in the
time the fire started four or more. All right, the
(06:03):
chemical truck right here back at the stace. But you
didn't say Josh was turning his house. Why not, because
it went up so fast? That's all. How the fire start?
You know? Well, probably that old heater he had down
in the parlor. Sure for what else, that's where the
blade started. I could see it. You don't like Johns.
I made no bones about it, the tight fisted old. Look,
(06:26):
he's the only man in terr guy that doesn't work
for a living. He's retired.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
But does he spend his money here?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Sure? He even goes over to sale and we're bridged
in to buy his grocery. So he made himself a
couple of pennies. Wait a minute, Wait a minute dollars.
Well you're saying you think maybe I let his plate
burn down.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That's what you mean.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I didn't say that, but that's what you meant. It
could be a possibility. All right. Look, I could run
you out of town, Johnny. I've got the authority, don't
you forget that. Where I find Jesus Joe Pasqually plays
about a mile down the road toward Gahansey. But now
look here, Oh, stop worrying, Luke. I just want to
see about his injuries and if he has any better
(07:06):
ideas about how the fireman started, Johnny, if you remember
what I said, but not being able to get that
fire out, No about maybe running you out of town.
You know, if you would have talked of the police
like that, I am the police. Well you've certainly built
up a nice case against yourself. I'll theolytic driving to
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the PASTORALI farm meant passing what was left a johsh
was turning tow instead of passing. I stopped. From the
insurance standpoint, it was pretty much the total laws. But
enough of the frame was standing to reveal to the
rather interesting thing. Could the sheriff's fire chief Luke Hopkins
have overlooked him?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Or was he just being very careful not to call
attention to him? I wondered, I'm coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
That's that to you.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
My name is Dollar. I understand mister Joshua turning.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Ducks in his room with the doctor, doctor more even
the doctor lead.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
You'll see him come in, all right, Da la la
bata wine genu wine, the California wine.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well fine, but a little later, mister PORTFOLI I take
it mister Tremmings is bording with you. What else can
I do?
Speaker 7 (08:50):
He long has the money for the thieves for the pertalizer.
And when he says he's going to stay dear, what.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Can I do? Maybe I see him?
Speaker 7 (08:58):
You take some of the busy charge make for the
money we give my husband is a big pot from Josh?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
What training? I take it all? So you don't like it?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I don't like him. Nobody like you?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Tell me something? Did he and Sheriff Hopkins ever have
any trouble all the time?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Always a big pie, such a mess. No, no of
the house he's place to make up? How look like?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And doumb that's hard any reason?
Speaker 7 (09:27):
All the money he makes from his loaning to the
people carefully, he's really.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Mad about it? About how much did he charged? Ten
twenty percent? Too much? Well?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Usually is a pretty serious thing.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
So how you gonna prove nothing he's ever put on
the paper there for Louca telling he's gonna get here
more of sounds something like that the way the other
he's going to get here?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Mar What did you say?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Nothing? Oh? Here comes to my rage.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
If you had a mind so you could get up
and dance to God when you know it, mister, this
is one time you're gonna pay your bill for my services.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Don't you remember that I'll pay you when I get
paid by the in trunk.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, oh, no, that nonsense. Sit down here and.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Oh I'm Johnny Dollar. Doctor. Mary's an the insurance coming
about time you got here, and I hope you bought
in trunk check along. Well, that may be forthcoming later, later, later.
Yours is a round unique policy, mister turning is the
special accident clause. That is what's done you you're about
wanting payment. If I'm interestating, you call yourself incapacitated in
the sense of the intent express in your policy. What's
(10:48):
th't you see with your own eyes? Every time I
try to move my name?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Oh oh, doctor, can't you give me something?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Just use that leg of bit and you'll be all
right you now, look here, look here, I've got some
other calls to make. I'll see you tomorrow if you
are sure you want another call on your bill. Good
buy missus.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Dollar, goodbye, Mary.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I'll walk to the telling me you you kill him, doctor,
you tell him how bad I hurt?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I don't know what to tell you, miss the Dollar.
I can't find anything wrong with him except for a
few minor bruises. He waited until they got there with
the fire ladders instead of jumping out the window. He'd
almost think he's gonna deliberately. The collectrum is insurance, the
old money grabbing. And I'm sorry he couldn't talk about
a hid man to get along with him, Ask Sheriff Luke,
(11:41):
there's a man really stuffers with him? Oh? Not the
man Joshuh will make calls him all hours of the night,
think to hear his prowers.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Wants Luke to do something about it.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Wants Luke to clear up the trash is on his plate,
his own crash once a dirt road sprinkle.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Every day during the summer, racers.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Came with Luke about oh about a million inconsequential things.
The sheriff putty well fed up with him, even as
you are.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Even as we all are. And Luke isn't the man.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
To fool with. About the fire doctan, Yes, well, I'm
no expert, but a couple of things I saw that
It made me wonder the.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
House found up in an awful hurry.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I was like that. It looked to me as though
the blaze must have started in not one, but several places.
It's simultaneously any So, of course, if there was a
ghast leet somewhere downstairs something like no, no, no, he
didn't use gas, it was too expensive. How back in
the kitchen he used the coal oil range. Had a
pop bellied coal stove in the living room heat. But
even if that stove was in poor condition, which it was,
(12:40):
you're you're thinking that maybe someone burned him out. Aren't
just a dollars oh doctor who almost anybody in town
would be glad to see him go, especially little Compkin, Yes, especially.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
In just a minute.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Wow, I've known Luke for over twenty years. He's a
good man, an honest man, has a tremendous sense of
duty to the peace.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Full of this time Hugh knows he doesn't like.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And encodes Joshua trimmings that includes Joshua.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So if you think for one minute.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
A man's patience can sometimes you pushed only so far doctings.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Non, No, mister Dollar, You're wrong, dead wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Why I myself would be more likely to well if
I had a real cause is you've better be careful?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Sure, I think I'll take another look at the place
before I talk further with mister turning. When you better hurry,
it's getting late, and it looks like you're gonna have
some raine. Yeah, you'll be around, won't you. Yes, I'll
be at my You don't seriously suspect me. I hope
that is, if you do find real evidence of Boston
should I? I had him for twenty six cents for
(13:48):
a loaf of bread at the general's store and the
hope of using it as a test for traces of kerostine.
But I was raining cats and dogs by the time
I got back to the ruins of Trimmings home. Not
good rain obliterates signs of Barson as much as fire itself.
I parked my car up at the mailbox and poked
around for a few minutes. We got nowhere, but now
it's so dark, and going back to the car, I
(14:09):
ran into the mailbox almost on a hunch. I opened
I took out the content, and then stoop over the
headlights of my car. I carefully read a couple of
the letters from the telephone company, the electric company, just
routine letters, but to me a definite time that Trimming's
home had been burned down deliberately. The first real clue
(14:31):
I had, and not a pretty one. I expended the
count item five ninety cents. First of the person called
(14:51):
a fret, Hanian Hartford from Sheriff Luke Compkin's filming stations.
I saw your headlines, Johnny over there where Jereg Truman's
house was. Yeah, and I found something there a little bit.
Hello friends, Johnny Dollar, Yeah, yeah, was just one thing.
What business was he in? Ah?
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, well then this wasn't the first. Okay, okay, you
say you you found something to work Triming's face, something
that indicates pretty clearly that the fire was set. And listen, lope, no, no,
now you listen, Johnny. My job is to enforce the
law around here, not bring it. Yeah, okay, we'll see, Gus.
How much you mean that? Come on? Oh, mister doll
(15:51):
on a chair?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Could you call me and not the rain? Good the
way I caught you?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Nice to glass wall. Maybe later missus calling. Wait he
walked out of here with a doctor Murray and oh yeah,
I'm an insurance investigative, mister turning dynoid. I've been investigating
did you come back here to fool the insurance even
for my injury. I've been investigating the fire at your home.
I'm convinced that it was Arsen that it was carefully
(16:19):
deliberately set and get this no good chair here to
do something. You mean he did it, Yes, of course
he did. He's been threatening for years to get me
out of this town one way or another. He ain't
that crue chair? Well yeah the way? Well yeah, you
know wat he not only set the fire, but he
let my house burn down? Is that what John Albinson dollar?
I understand he and the volunteers got there within a
(16:42):
few minutes after it started. Oh sure, they got there
fast enough, probably to cover up for his starting fire.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He got there so fast.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Why don't you see if he hadn't known it was
going to go up? Yeah, I thought of that. Golly,
I'm so glad when I collect my insurance and get
well enough away burn people like him back. I want
you both to listen to me for a minute. Go
right ahead, mister Trimmings. Did you pick up the mail
for your mailbox on Friday? What? Noah, don't believe it is.
(17:11):
I'm sure you were too busy too. What ask any
big city company arsen squad who runs up against this
sort of thing all the time, And he'll tell you
that when he sees unpaid bills for water, electricity, telephone
lying around. It's one of the short signs of planned
arsens After all, why bother paying the bills if you're
going to burn up the place his mailbox. Yeah, last warnings.
(17:34):
And unless he paid his bills to the phone company here,
that's hampering the United States mail Look, mister Trimmings within
the doll business before he came here, where I made
the money to retire. What he retired on was the
insurance he collected when his plant burned up. He made
little celluloid dolls, chupy, that sort of thing. And if
(17:56):
anybody knows about the inflammability of cellularize, I see suture
this loop, long stripped of celluloid, laid to the corners
of his living room from a central point. Yeah, at
the end of each one, a rag or maybe just
a carpet soak with gastantly, not enough to leave a trace,
but enough to start the fire. But I don't see
at the center on top of the cenuloid stripped the
short lighted candle. When it burned down to the celluloid fang,
(18:18):
the whole place was on fire. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, he had
plenty of time to go upstairs, stay there with a
light song. Perfect alibi. You saw him up there when
the fire started loose, so you back up his alibi.
I had no idea. Yeah, that fire was as safe
as the injury to his leg. He's trying to collect arms. Yeah, yeah, sure,
(18:40):
I thought you couldn't stand up you who I did?
Go ahead and true, I didn't have one shred of
it turning What that was all guests words? You mean
you just talked yourself out of a lot of insurance
money in front of witness and probably into a nice
(19:01):
long prison. Gun Oh Rice Frankling a little on mister trimming.
Maybe he'll come too. He did, and he went quietly,
and I'm sure his confession will stand up in court
(19:21):
when you take whatever legal action is necessary. And as
long as I've stayed the company a big pilot doel
EXPENSI total including incidentals, a weekend in Atlantic City, incidentals,
fair back to Hartford and incidentals two hundred dollars and
twenty eight cents yours truly journeyed.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Up, welcome back. I should go ahead and share the
cast not available in the recording, but courtesy of John
(20:02):
Abbott in his book, The Who Is Johnny Dollar Matter?
The cast is Vic Perrin, fors Lewis Virginia, Greg will Wright,
and Harley Bear. And he got that from the scripts
at the Thousand Oaks Library, which I believe since have
been relocated to the Pailey Center at UCLA. I have
(20:25):
to admit that I was really impressed by the doctor's loyalty.
There's friendship and then there's offering yourself up as a
suspect in an arson to an insurance investigator. I continue
to maintain that if you're a police officer who casually
threatens to throw an investigator out of town who asks
(20:47):
you questions, you're not actually a good guy, and really
you can't do that. This is nineteen fifty eight, not
eighteen eighty eight in the Old West. If Luke were
to actually they try to drive Johnny out of town,
he'd called the insurance Commission and the state police. Finally,
(21:07):
while I am appreciative of Johnny's solution, particularly once he
got over the disappointment of not being able to eat
bread flavored with kerosene, yet again, the payoff feels cheap
because Johnny had only speculation and hunches and no evidence.
But I suppose there are people who will confess if
(21:30):
you essentially are able to guess everything they do. Also,
Joshua was probably right that Johnny didn't have any right
to open his mail, so Johnny would potentially be in
trouble over something like that. Most people who are facing
potential jail time for insurance fraud wouldn't waste their time
(21:55):
on trying to get the investigator prosecuted for their mail,
particularly since that's not going to be the big evidence
against him, rather his own confession witnessed by multiple witnesses.
But from everything we learned of josh in this episode, yeah,
he totally would prosecute Johnny over that. All right, well,
(22:18):
listener comments and feedback now, and we start on YouTube
with a comment regarding the boron one twelve matter. This
was a strange one, but then again it was a
George Reid case. Yeah, I think that that's right. Anytime
George Reid makes the call, you have to brace yourself
(22:40):
for something weird to happen, and certainly that's Johnny's approach.
Then we go and then we go to Facebook, where
Steven writes regarding an ad on a recent Johnny Dollar
episode concerning chef Boyardy Pizza. My mom made pizza from
(23:02):
the Sheep Boyardy box all the way through the seventies
and eighties. It was the pizza I ate on my
growing years. As far as I know, it's still available
at Walmart. I was able to confirm that it is
indeed still available at Walmart. I don't recall if I
said anything about it. I've never experienced that myself, but yeah,
(23:27):
that definitely does still exist. Stephen also writes, I want
to thank you for several podcasts that I've discovered because
of you. The first was The Old Time Radio Westerns.
Because Andrew helps with your podcasts, I started following. I
love Old Time Radio in classic comedy of Old Time
Radio because of your crossover podcasts. Most recently, I added
(23:48):
Hot Copy Radio Theater on your recommendation. They each have
their strength and weaknesses, but the Great Detectives of Old
Time Radio has the best community commentary and interaction of
any of the podcasts. Someone complained about your commentary picking
on details. Keep it up. This is why we listen
to your podcast. I hope you find comfort in the
(24:09):
loss of your father in law. Well, thank you so much.
I appreciate your kind words. Now it's time to thank
our Patreon supporter of the day, and I want to
go ahead and thank our Patreon supporters who have been
supporting the podcast for five years. This month, I want
(24:30):
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(24:50):
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(25:12):
another episode of Yours Truly Johnny Dolart, But join us
back here tomorrow for drag Netwear.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Well, that's come out of our pockets a terrible things, terrible.
I don't know what I'm going to do. Hey, that's
congregation for it. Their offerings have always been so generous
and they're not wealthy. They're just working people. When was
the last time that you heard from this mister MSUs
Herbert Reveren week ago? I guess yes, it was last Monday.
(25:39):
I got anxious and called them at their hotel. It's
on South Grand I can give you the address. They
told me when the books would be ready, and said
it would be on Tuesday. It's the last I heard them.
No forwarding address, no other place that you think we
might find them. No, I'm sorry, just don't have any idea.
So hard to believe anyone would.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Do such a thing too.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Yes, see, when if we could have the adverst of
their hotel? Yes, all right, if you'll come with me,
I have it over the house. Did did mister and
missus Herbert have a car?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Do you know?
Speaker 8 (26:08):
Rev? I don't think so. If they did, I never
saw it. Don't know what I'm going to tell with
congregation eight hundred dollars, that's a lot of money to
our people. Yes, tell me, sergeant, I don't mean to
be uncharitable, but mister and missus Herbert they have a
criminal record. Have they done this sort of thing before? Well?
(26:29):
Their description seem to fit a couple that we've been
looking for. They've been working at churches in this area
on and off for a couple of years now. I
can't understand why they do such a thing. It's almost
like robbing at poor Box. Yes, so they've done that too.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime,
send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net,
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