November 15, 2024 • 41 mins
What's your favorite Metallica cover song? What song makes you cry? How about favorite rap verse? We're back with another episode full of random, super fun topics to discuss and we also bring in a very special guest to torture in the Ride the Lightning Round! This episode is a can of mixed nuts, if you will.
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Hey, welcome everybody to the greatest mixtape podcast. My name is Eric and my name is Mack.
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And tonight we're going to do something we haven't actually done for at least a few episodes.
Yeah, it's been a long time where, you know, we've we've used this phrase before, but hey,
man, we're just we're gonna we're doing some jazz tonight. We're just we're improv and
man, right? Exactly. Yeah, we're riffing. We're just gonna see where it goes. Yeah. So we
don't have a specific topic in mind. You know, a lot of times we'll do a list or a countdown or a
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favorite this or tonight we're just gonna reach in the bag of topics and just kind of talk and see
where we're a can of mixed nuts. That's what we are. I've been called worse. For being totally
honest here. I always find myself kind of sifting out the almonds. I don't like the almond. I dig
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the almonds. I'll do that. Give me some cashews. You know, I'm good to go. Anyway, anyway, that was
way too much about our favorite nuts. So all right. Well, Mac, why don't you pick the first
topic here? Okay, this is going to be a topic. I mean, this is something that just in regular
conversation we talk about all the time. Sure. The band Metallica, some of you may have heard of
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them. They've got a couple of big albums. Yeah, yeah. But they are one of the greatest cover bands
ever. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So that's what we want to talk about. Like we're both going to pick
our favorite Metallica cover song. Yeah. And again, that's a pretty hefty list of songs to pick from
too. They have done, I mean, entire albums, double albums of cover songs. I mean, there's a lot to
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pick from. Yeah, a lot of material there. So I'll jump in here. All right. Go for it. I'm gonna go
with their cover of Am I Evil? The original is with Diamondhead. That's a song from their 1980 album,
Lightning to the Nations. And then Metallica covered it. It was originally a B-side on Creeping
Death. Yep. 1984. Yeah. But then also showed up on the 1998 covers album Garage, Inc. But one of
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the heaviest intros of all time. It's slow, plodding, build up. Such a heavy riff. Oh, that riff
kicks in. It's so heavy. Yep. And if you go back and listen to the original Diamondhead version,
fantastic song. Great, great song. Yeah. But Metallica just gave it more of an edge. Yeah.
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Made it heavier. And it's just, you feel that build in your chest. Yeah. And it's just so strong.
And then it's a longer song. Of course you have the guitar solo. But then towards the end of the
song, that main riff comes back in and just blows your head off. It's so great. That's my favorite
Metallica cover song. That's cool, man. And in full disclosure, that was also on my list. But in
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typical me fashion, I had a couple because I can't pick. So yeah, that's definitely one of my
favorites too. And that was my first exposure to a Metallica cover song. And at like, what, 13 years
old when that thing came out, I believe it was 1984. Yeah. I didn't know Diamondhead anyway. So
I mean, there's no reason I would have known that was a cover song. Until you're reading the liner
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notes and you realize, wait a minute, this wasn't written by Hetfield and Ulrich. So you're like,
wait, who was this band? So it kind of led me down the path of, oh, these are some of their influences.
The New Wave of British Heavy Metal, bands like that. And Tigers of Pantang and Saxon and bands
like that. So yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you, man. I'm a big, big fan of that song. And to this
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day, it's a staple in their live set. It's just such a great song. I think it stands up to this
day too. And I think that song was only four years old when they covered it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's
crazy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Is that like they're going back 20 years and picking some obscure,
you know, old song? It was four years old. That's so great. I remember being a teenager and having
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the cassette single for Creeping Death and just, you know, wore that thing out, man. I've said this
before on the podcast, but you know, there's been a few tapes in my life that I've bought multiple
copies of because I legit wore them out. And that cassette single for Creeping Death with the B
side being Am I Evil? It was, yeah, probably three or four copies of that. And like you said, it's
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a staple of their live show. And if you've seen Metallica and you've seen Am I Evil live, it's
just, yeah, it's incredible. It's killer. It's so killer. Nice dude. Good choice, man. Well, my,
so what would have been my second choice? Probably not a big shock. It's actually two songs from one
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of my favorite bands of all time that they kind of slammed together and released as one track off of
the 1987 Garage Days Re-Revisited album. It was the first recording they did with Jason Newstead,
their bass player after unfortunately Cliff Burton passed away. But I'm talking about Last Caress
slash Green Hell, covers of the Misfits. Again, two songs that are super, super short. So they
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just slammed them together, kind of made one sort of medley out of it. But oh my God, that was my
first real exposure to the Misfits as well. I hadn't really, yeah, Metallica. I mean, honestly,
the Misfits owe a lot of their current popularity to Metallica. Cliff Burton had the iconic Crimson
Ghost skull tattoo on his arm, which, you know, a lot of people are like, what's that? They would
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wear their t-shirts on stage. And back then there was a huge separation between metal and punk. You
know, you were kind of one or the other. There wasn't a lot of metal kids like us that had really
opened up to punk rock yet. And Metallica turned all of us on to the Misfits. And yeah, some of
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us just hook, line and sinker, man. I know I did. I was like, what is this? These guys are crazy.
Got me into a lot of other punk rock after that. But yeah, definitely I owe my love of the Misfits
definitely to Metallica. Yeah, for sure, man. For sure. It's funny, I'd forgotten about those two,
that cover song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And because I think I thought you were going to go with Stone
Cold Crazy. Wow. That's again, it was on my short list. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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But you're right. They cover the Misfits is just fantastic. And they also did another Misfits song.
They did a Die, Die My Darling. That's right. I think that was on Garage Ink, I believe.
Yeah. So many, again, so many cover songs from Metallica, but yeah, pretty much everything they
decide to cover just comes out amazing. Even some of the stuff that they released during their
commercial phase, you know, the Turn in the Page or Whiskey in the Jar. You know, some of those are
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a little more obscure for a band like Metallica, but man, looking back on them, you're like, Jesus,
these are fantastic covers, man. Yeah. Yeah. So an uncanny ability to pick amazing songs and then
totally putting their stamp on it and just doing an amazing job, you know, reimagining those songs.
And I don't know what album it's on, but they also do, obviously, they do a great cover of
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53rd and 3rd by the Ramones. Oh yeah. I don't know what that's on actually. But yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Again, man, dipping into the punk rock stuff. And I mean, you know, they go from Bob Seeger to,
you know, the Ramones and the Misfits. And I mean, just great stuff, man. It's a lot of fun.
Yeah, man. Love Metallica. Great, great, great band. Original music, obviously, but just a
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fantastic cover band. Yeah. And still to this day, man, you can say what you want about, you know,
their music catalog over the last, you know, 15, 20 years or whatever, but man, live, they just,
they'll deliver, man. They put on such a fun show and, you know, to hear those classic songs live
and loud and it's just, it's a blast, man. Yeah. Yeah. I love them live. Right. Where are we going
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to next, sir? So let's take a, let's take a bit of a left turn from the Metallica and metal side of
things. Let's revisit a topic that I think we had touched on at least a little bit in some of our
conversations in the past. I don't know if we fully covered it as a segment on the show before,
but let's talk about our favorite rap slash hip hop verse. Yes. Now again, here's a topic where
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this one, man, it was so hard because not only do you have to, you know, find it a song with an
amazing verse in it, but a lot of those songs have four or five amazing verses. So you've whittled it
down to a song, but now you got to pick one. Like, well, I don't know, is verse two better than verse
one or man, there's just so much great bars out there that, that my God, yeah, it was, it was a
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bit daunting, but I'm interested to see what you came up with on this one. I mean, like you said,
there's 20 different ways I could have gone on this one, but I had to go with Phife Dogs verse,
can I kick it by Tribe Called Quest? It's so good, man. It's, it's, it's fairly, fairly simple.
Yep. You know, in its scheme, but it's just delivered so well. Yeah. And there's just a couple
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slight little like moments of genius in there, different reflections are emphasizing different
words that give it a twist and then it comes back to the main rhyme. You know, so I mean, can I,
can I do this here? Oh, a hundred percent. I would be upset if you didn't. All right. Can I kick it
to my tribe that flows in layers right now? Phife is a poem sayer at times. I'm a studio conveyor.
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Mr. Dinkins, would you please be my mayor? You'll be doing us a really big favor. Boy, this track
really has a lot of flavor. When it comes to Rhythm's Quest as your savior, follow us for the
funky behavior. Make a note on the rhythm we gave you. Feel free, drop your pants, check your hay.
Do you like the garments that we wear? I instruct you to be the obeyer. A rhythm recipe that you'll
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savior doesn't matter if you're minor or major. It's the tribe of the game rhythm player as you
inhale like a breath of fresh air. Nice job, dude. And, and get this man a gold chain. The,
the little, just a little stroke of genius. Yeah. Do you like the garments that we wear? He didn't
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say garments, right? Garments. Garments. And it just throws off that rhyme just a little bit,
gives a little bit of break and then he comes right back in. Yeah. It's just that little thing,
that little inflection. It just makes it so cool to me. Like I just dissect that verse. Yeah.
You know, cause again, it's kind of a simple rhyme. It's fun. Yeah. But just those little things
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Fife is doing in there, they just make it so much fun. Yeah. Just add a little bit of, you know,
flavor to it. So it just doesn't get super repetitive. You know, like just kind of flip
things a little bit here and there just to break up, you know, that repetitive flow. Yeah. Rest in
peace, Phife dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Phife was one of the most underrated MCs too, from that
era. Just, yeah, just so good. The funky diet. And of course he's, you know, he's in a group with
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Q-Tip who's also one of the top, what, five or 10 MCs of all time. Yeah. Yeah. And again, you know,
he gets a little overshadowed because of Q-Tip, but yeah, I always loved Phife, man. Yeah. Nice.
What do you got? Well, my choice is, I know that you probably, because you're a fan of Phife,
you probably, because I sing the praises of Biggie Smalls all the time and I say how he's
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my favorite rapper of all time. I didn't actually go with a Biggie song for this one. Wow. And again,
I can't say that this is my choice for greatest verse ever. I don't think I could actually do
that. It's the greatest verse that I'm going to talk about tonight because I don't know if I could,
because tomorrow I would probably go back to a Biggie verse, but actually tonight,
I just felt like Wu-Tang has to be in this conversation. So I am actually going to
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present Inspecta Decks verse from the song Triumph. Oh, yeah, dude. It's from their 1997
album Wu-Tang Forever. And again, Wu-Tang's got a million and one verses that you could pick for
this topic, man. But I've just always loved this particular verse. The word play is just off the
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fucking charts, dude. And I could not even begin to get anywhere near a flow like Inspecta Decks.
So I'm just going to read these lyrics. If they happen to come out a little bit poetic,
fucking great. But I mean, just listen to this word play, dude. I bomb atomically Socrates
philosophies and hypotheses can't define how I be dropping these mockery's lyrically perform
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armed robbery, flee with the lottery possibly they spotted me battle scarred showgun explosion
when my pen hits tremendous ultraviolet shine blind forensics. I inspect you through the future
see Millennium kilabies sold 50 gold 60 platinum shackling the masses with drastic rap tactics
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graphic displays melt the steel like blacksmiths black Wu jackets Queen bees ease the guns in
rumble with patrolmen tear gas lace the function heads by the score take flight inside a war
chicks hit the floor die hard fans demand more behold the bold soldier control the globe slowly
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proceeds to blow swinging swords like shinobi stomp grounds and pound footprints and solid rock
Wu got it locked performing live on your hottest block. Damn, dude. God damn. I'm out of breath.
And I was just reading it. Right. You know, good God, that word play is sick, dude.
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And that's what I love about Wu Tang. Yeah. Number one thing, the word play. Yeah. It's so
smart and so well thought out. Yeah. I mean, to drop a reference to a blacksmith. Yeah, right.
I mean, come on. Yeah. Melt steel like blacksmiths. And he wrapped it with he rhymed it with rap
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tactics. I mean, it's just so good. So good. Every one of them is just phenomenal in their own right
to but yeah, that particular verse from Inspector Deck is just all time classic. If you ask me,
dude, that's sick. Hell yes. Hell yeah. I'm sitting here listening to you read it. I'm just like,
like trying not just but in and go. I know, right? Yeah, man. And yeah, just reading the lyrics,
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man. I'm like, when we get done, man, I'm going to go listen to some Wu Tang. I have to have to
I know all day tomorrow. Right. It's a Wu Tang day. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So yeah, if you're
listening and you don't know what we're talking about, God, go educate yourself on some Wu Tang
clan. Just pick a record and jump in, man. And just everything they've ever ever put out has just been
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phenomenal. Dude, Wu Tang forever. Absolutely. Wu is for the children.
Rest in peace, ODB. That's right. So where are we going next? This is going to be interesting. Okay.
Now, I want to talk about a song that either makes you cry or get emotional.
Okay. And, Eric, I'm dying to hear where you're going to go with this. You know, I'm not even
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going to sit here and try and play hard and be like, yeah, what songs don't really make me cry,
man. No, dude, fuck that. There are some songs that can get me at least choked up, maybe shed
a tear here and there, man. And I had a few on a short list, but one in particular, I may get
choked up even just telling you the story. But there's one song in particular that always,
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always, always, especially now gets me choked up. And it's a song called Sometimes It Snows in April,
which is a Prince track. It's from his album Parade, which was also the soundtrack to his film
Under the Cherry Moon, which came out in 1986. And he wrote, performed and produced the song
with his guitar player and piano player, Wendy and Lisa of the Revolution. They were still with
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him at this point. The song is about his character from the movie. He plays a character called
Christopher Tracy in the movie Under the Cherry Moon. In the film, Christopher Tracy passes away.
And so the song is written from the perspective of the narrator and he's kind of talking about
Christopher Tracy's death and also talking about how he one day hopes to reconnect with Tracy
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in heaven in the afterlife. And it's a beautiful song anyway. The melody is just gorgeous. Of
course, Prince is a master lyricist. And in my opinion, some of the best work he ever did was
when he was working with Lisa and Wendy. So it's just, it's an amazing song, very simple, just
acoustic guitar, piano and Prince singing. It's beautiful. It was a tearjerker to begin with, but
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after Prince passed away in 2016, the song found new life. It was never released as a single,
so it never charted the first time around. But after his death, a lot of people kind of
rediscovered that track and it actually started charting without even being officially released
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as a single in many countries in Europe. So it kind of gained a new life. But if you listen to
the song now, it's almost prophetic and it's just, you're hearing, and he's kind of singing
about his own death anyway, because he's singing about the character that he plays in this movie
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passing away. So you're kind of listening to him sing about his own death. And man, you want to
talk about a track that can get you, if you're even mildly a Prince fan, that song can get you.
It'll get you. Oh man, you've given me some homework to do. It's a beautiful, beautiful song.
I'm just not familiar with it, but now I have to go listen to this song. Yeah, it's, yeah,
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the song having its second life, unfortunately, after Prince passed. But yeah, that song gets me
every time, man. Wow. Great, great track. Yeah, man. Actually, that soundtrack, that album is
really, really good anyway. There's a lot of great stuff on it, but that's definitely a highlight
for me. What do you got? What gets you emotional? Do you know the song Remember Me from the movie
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Coco? I cannot say that I do. I did see the movie. I did. I just, that totally caught me off guard,
man. I was waiting for like a Queen song or something, or like a John Lennon, you know,
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you're going to give me like Imagine or something. You come back with a Disney song. I can't say I
remember the track, but I did see the movie. I did see the movie. Okay. Okay. That was great.
Okay, Coco, the 2017 Disney Pixar movie celebrating Dia de Muertos. Yes. So the young man Miguel,
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you know, he's kind of confronted with his family's ban on music. And so he enters the land of the
dead to find his great-great grandfather, a legendary singer named Ernesto de la Cruz.
Yes. Turns out great grandfather is actually a guy named Hector, who was killed by Ernesto de la
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Cruz. But Miguel has to get back to the land of living to remind his great grandmother, Mama Coco,
of her father, Hector, before he's forgotten forever. Right. So when he gets back and he
gets to Mama Coco and he's trying to get her to remember her father, he sings the song Remember
Me, which Hector used to sing to Coco when Coco was a baby. Yes. Now I'm remembering it. Okay.
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Yeah. And Mama Coco is super old. She's on the verge of dying. Her memory is shot, right? And
the little boy is singing Remember Me and Mama Coco starts singing. Oh my God. And the tears
are coming out her eyes. Dude, I fucking lose it. That's awesome. It's so goddamn touching. Right.
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And the song, you know, obviously it makes you think about people you lost, but also
how you want to be remembered. Sure. And not be forgotten. Yeah. You know, which is kind of the
theme of the movie. Right. But bro, man, I'm telling you, I catch Mama Coco singing that song
and I'm, it's over. Waterworks. Actually, it's funny. I was just watching it over the weekend
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with my daughter, right? And we get to that part and it's just me and her, we're the only, you know,
my wife wasn't home and my daughter looks at me, she's like, mommy always cries at this part.
And I'm like, yeah, sit tight kid. Cause you're going to see me crying. I was going to say,
are you just like at this point, are you like choking them back or what? That's amazing.
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Yeah. Choking them back big time. Oh, that's adorable, man. Bro. Like, oh man, but you're right.
I mean, I could have gone with John Lennon or. Oh yeah. I was, yep. I was fully ready for a John
Lennon or even like I said, like queen, like they've got a couple that can get you kind of,
you know, wow, I did not see a Coco coming. That was great, man. This it's times like this. I wish
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we did film these and like, you know, so people could, could have seen my face, dude, cause it
was probably a good like half a second of just sheer, like, what? Like I was so confused for a
second. I was like, what did you just say? And then yeah, that's, that's amazing. I love that choice.
That was good stuff, man. Go watch that clip tonight. When mom and Coco start singing.
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Oh my God. I'll be balling crying like a baby, dude. That's a good flick, man. Now I want to go
watch that. That's a great movie. Yeah, it really is. It was super cute. Yeah. So, oh, here's a fun
one. I kind of came up with this one last minute, but let's talk about television appearances by
either bands or artists that are just kind of either legendary or, you know, really struck you
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as something special. It could be a performance. It could be an interview. It could be a cameo on
a TV show, just, but just, you know, a rock star or band, you know, making a television appearance
that just kind of did something for you. I'm I got two here. Okay. One being a guest appearance.
I'm going to go with, I'm going old school back to the eighties. I'm going Phil Collins on Miami vice.
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Oh, dude. That's a good one. And you know, the episode's great. He's like this con man
slash game show host or something. Yeah. But one of the reasons I remember that episode so well is
not because of Phil Collins, but also on his game show, one of the guests, one of the contestants
is played by emo Phillips. Oh my God. That's right. Wow. There's a name I haven't heard in a long,
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long time. And he's doing his whole gimmick, you know, he's all confused and he's answering
the questions wrong and he's all flustered. It's great. That weird voice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But then for like an ongoing role, I'd be remiss if one of us didn't mention little Steven Van Zandt
and the soprano soprano, Silvio Dante. Yeah. I mean, that's gotta be up there. It's one of
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the greatest roles all time. Number one, but just from a musician standpoint, a guy that didn't have
any real acting ability. Sure. But David Chase created that role for him. This could be like them.
Yeah. So that's to me, that's up there. He's got to be on the list. That's one of those characters
where I feel like the show just wouldn't have been the same without him. Right. You know? Yeah,
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that's cool, man. There's been a lot of rock stars that tried the acting route and it didn't always
work out. You know, sometimes you just stay in your lane, but that was a good one. That was a fine
choice because yeah, he was fantastic on that show. Well, I've got a couple as well. Both of mine are
more television appearances versus TV shows. But the first one, I couldn't talk about this topic
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and not bring this one up because it's one of my all time favorites. I'm not the biggest Who fan.
I like a lot of their stuff, but when you have the conversation of bands of that era, you know,
it's always Led Zeppelin for me. It's, you know, the Who is kind of further down on the list.
There's a lot of other bands I would put above them, but their exploding drum set on the Smothers
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Brothers Comedy Hour in 1967. If you've never seen this, please go to YouTube immediately and
bring this up. Yeah, like I said, 1967, they were performing. I'm making the air quotes in my
fingers because they were lip syncing. Everybody did. It wasn't, you know, that they weren't,
you know, good enough to perform live just on television back then. Everybody lip sync.
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That's how it was just standard practice. Right. So anyway, they were doing My Generation. And
before the performance unbeknownst to the rest of the band, Keith Moon, the drummer, had bribed one
of the CBS stagehands to not only put explosives in his kick drum, which was kind of his shtick.
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He used to do this a lot, but he actually put like three times the amount that he normally put in
there. Like normally there'd be a little boom and some smoke would come out and everything.
He bribed this guy. He put three times the amount of explosives in his kick drum that he normally
used. So at the end of the performance, you see, you know, Keith is standing up behind his drums
and he's hitting stuff and you see him, you know, stomp. It must've been like a trigger pedal or
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something, but he triggers that thing and holy shit, the biggest explosion goes off and the rest
of the band, you see them, like it scares the shit out of them. The shockwave was so big that it
actually rendered the cameras blind for a second. Like when you watch the clip, the cameras that are
on the band actually go black for a second because the shockwave fucking shut them down.
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But the explosion was so big, a piece of cymbal broke off and cut Keith Moon's arm. Fire from
the explosion singed Pete Townsend's hair. You see him patting the back of his head and he's got
smoke coming out of his hair. And then years later, Pete Townsend attributed a good portion
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of his massive hearing loss to that incident that, you know, from the exploding drum, but holy shit,
man, this is not rehearsed pyrotechnics. This is just rogue, insane shit from the sixties, man.
Can you imagine having a guy that unpredictable in your band?
Jesus Christ, dude. He, I mean, they call him moon the loon. He was out of his freaking skull, dude.
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That dude was nuts. We're going on national TV and our drummer puts fucking explosives in his kick drum.
And then almost kills his band. I mean, if one of us seriously like that could have gone wrong
in so many ways. A little singed hair was nothing compared to what could have happened.
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I mean, Jesus, I don't think he'd ever put that much in his drums before. So yeah, who knows what
could have happened, but luckily everybody survived, but it made for just an iconic piece
of television. So again, if you've never seen that it's the who on the Smothers Brothers comedy
hour, 1967, go look it up. It is absolutely phenomenal. Which was like this super clean
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family show. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. It was a comedy sketch comedy vaudeville kind of vibe,
you know? And yeah, they already took a bit of a chance bringing the who on in the first place.
And then that shit happens like, Holy Christ. So I just, again, I felt like I had to talk about
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that at least for a minute. But the real one I want to talk about, this is my all time favorite
moment of rock stars or a band on a TV show on a talk show setting. And it was your favorite band,
Kiss. On October 31st, 1979, they were on the Tom Snider's Tomorrow program. And this is some
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iconic TV, man. So by 1979, the wheels were already starting to come off the vehicle, let's say.
Tensions in the band were super high. Only a short time after this interview happened,
Peter Chris ended up quitting the band. You know, Gene and Paul were kind of trying to control
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everything. And then you've got Peter and Ace who were completely out of control. And it was just,
it was a recipe for disaster. So they're going on this show on Halloween night 1979. And they're
going to do this, you know, this interview, right? And so Tom Snider is already warned by his
producers ahead of time. He's like, Look, you know, Ace is going to be a little tough to get to talk.
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He's very shy. You know, the other guys that talk your talk your ear off, but AC might he might need
a little prodding. So in ACE's, you know, anxiety and stagefraze is we can go up and play his guitar
in front of millions of people. But apparently when he had to go on a talk show, he freaked out.
So he's just pounding slowly like in the limo on the way to the show. And then he gets there and
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their manager meets them with like a bottle of champagne and is in his dressing room. So he's in
there drinking a bottle of champagne. By the time cameras go on and this is live, ACE is shit faced.
He is hammered. And everything just goes bonkers at like 18 seconds into the interview, you know,
he starts, you know, by introducing the band and immediately Jean and Paul, you know, jump in and
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start, you know, doing their biography of the band and who they are and what they do and blah, blah,
blah, you know, all of this scripted schtick that they would do, right? And ACE. So Tom turns to ACE
because he's already been warned, you know, this guy might need a little prodding. And ACE just
goes off, man. And it's just one just zinger after another. Apparently, before the cameras rolled,
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Tom had mistakenly referred to Jean as the bass player. He mispronounced bass and he said bass.
So when the band is going around and introducing themselves, ACE introduces himself as the he's
like, yeah, I'm ace fairly lead trout player. And, you know, so and immediately just starts cracking
up. Tom starts cracking up. He's going around, he's asking the band, okay, so Jean, you're you're the
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demon and Paul, you know, you're the star child. And he says, AC, so you're the you're like the
you're like the spaceman. And he goes, actually, I'm a plumber with his like thick New York accent.
And again, they just start laughing the whole time. Jean and Paul are shooting daggers at ACE.
And Peter, who was kind of like Peter and ACE, if you read their books and stuff, like they were
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like two peas in a pod. So of course, Peter is just laughing his ass off, which is just egging
ACE on even more. And he's just cracking joke after joke. And when he says he's a plumber, Tom
says something about, oh, I've got a I've got a pipe I'd like you to look at. He goes, tell me about
it. I mean, it's just the whole thing. It's so good. It's so good. And at one point, he's got a
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little teddy bear. And he's taken like his armbands from his from his uniform, you know, and he's
putting them on the bear. And he's like, I'm a space bear. And he's just saying all this ridiculous
shit. And again, what makes it so funny is that Jean and Paul are just visibly pissed off. And
it's just it's it's uncomfortable and funny. And just an insane moment. And ACE is just and Tom is
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having the time of his life. Like, apparently, I read that even after the show, Tom went to ACE's
dressing room, and they like hugged it out and was like, thank you so much. That was an amazing show.
Like if Jean and Paul had done their thing, it would have been boring. You know, ACE made the
segment. So again, I encourage you if you if you've never seen that, please go go look that up. It is
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just one of my favorite kiss moments ever. So good. I may have to go give this band a listen.
This kiss. This kiss. Yeah. They might have a bright future. You know. All right. Well,
that brings us to one of our favorite segments on the show. And we have a special guest. Oh,
my God, I can't wait for this. I cannot wait. All right. So we are going to bring my lovely
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wife, Chris, in to do the ride the lightning round. This is the first time we've ever actually had
somebody come in that wasn't, you know, a guest on the entire show. So we're trying to, you know,
change things up a little bit. We just thought, you know, instead of me and Mac asking each other
questions, you know, why not make it a little more fun? Let's bring other people in. So without
further ado, let's bring her in here, babe. Yes. Are you there? Hi. Here she is. Longtime listener,
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first time caller. Well, we appreciate that. Thank you very much. Full disclosure, Chris is actually
in another room of the house, so she didn't hear any of the warm up to this, but she obviously
knows why she's here. I do. I do. And I heard nothing to lead up to this. So, okay. Okay. And
you know how the ride the lightning round works. I'm going to give you 10 this or that questions.
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The idea is to rapid fire answer, try not to give it too much thought. And I made a bold prediction
before we hit record tonight that you will probably have the fastest time in the history of the ride
the lightning round. I say that because I know you and you follow rules to a T. And when we say the
idea is to do it as fast as possible, I know you and you're going to fly through this. Yeah, but
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here's what's interesting because when I listen, I want to see how much of a hypocrite I am is
really what I'm about to say is because like when I hear it, I'm like yelling into my phone, like,
hurry up, hurry up. Don't think about it. But I'm pretty sure that now that I'm in the hot seat,
like I'm going to also think about it. Okay. All right. I'm going to try. I mean, everyone else,
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I know they get hung up here and there. And I'm like, even though I'm yelling at them,
um, no, I think I'm going to be the same way. I think I'm gonna be the same way, but I'm gonna
try not to. I'm going to try not think about it and just just go, just fly. All right. Well,
I mean, that is the idea is, is that it's supposed to not be easy. You know, it's supposed to cause
you some stress. So we'll see how I did. Are you ready? I'm ready. Mac, are you ready? Oh,
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I'm so ready. All right, here we go. First off, Duran Duran or Foo Fighters. Oh my God, Duran
Duran. Oh, train or gin blossoms. Wow. Really? Okay. Um, Beyonce or Rihanna. Ooh, uh, Beyonce.
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Okay. Skid Row or poison. Skid Row. See, I kind of thought so, but poison had a lot of hits. Um,
okay. Everclear or Pearl Jam. Everclear. See, I told you she's ripping through this. Um,
Alanis Morissette or no doubt. Alanis Morissette. Damn. Madonna or Janet Jackson.
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Madonna. You paused. I did. I got a pause. Um, we've talked about kiss a lot tonight. So, uh,
Gene Simmons or Paul Stanley. No, that was the idea. Oh my God. Okay. My head goes Paul Stanley.
Okay. All right. See Peter or ace would have been easy. So I had to go with, with Jean or Paul. Um,
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okay. Cinderella or Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi. Oh, wow. Okay. Um, and then your 10th question,
black velvet or blaze of glory. Black velvet. All day, every day. I will belt that song out.
We will go back and explain that in a minute. And I actually have a bonus. I have an 11th question.
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We're going to do a bonus round. You ready? Yes. Okay. We're going to talk drummers, Tommy Lee
or your husband. Oh, suck it. Tommy Lee. Also Tommy Lee scares me a little bit. So,
well, I assume you mean from the waist down that thing is terrifying. I'm just going to say in
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general, we're not giving you specifics here. Yep. I'm sure he's a very nice man. Uh, I need
none of that going on. All right. Well, at least one person in the world picks me over Tommy Lee.
So thank you, baby. I appreciate that. I'm pretty sure your mom would too. So, all right.
Okay. I got it. I got a, I got a fan club. Um, all right. Is there any of those you want to go back
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defend, explain anything like that? I personally want to, uh, cause I just want to explain the,
the black velvet or blaze of glory, the two songs, a lot of miles, black velvet and Bon Jovi blaze
of glory. Do you want to explain why I picked those two songs? No. Oh, come on. Um, I, I can,
um, but I will also explain my why I picked which one. Okay. So yes. Um, so black velvet,
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uh, in my youth was my karaoke jam. And she kills it, dude. She kills it. Like velvet, if you please.
Yes, if you please. I've done it in front of people. Um, so I feel more comfortable that that's
the right answer blaze of glory. I just like to belt out in the comfort of my own home or car or
car with theatrics. Yes. Uh, yeah. Yeah. She gets really into it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of our
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movement and a lot of like going ons and yeah. Yeah. Very good. Very good. Um, yeah. I thought
Duran Duran versus Foo Fighters would give you a little more pause. You were, you were, you were
surprisingly quick on that one. Yeah. You love both of those bands so much. I do, but, um, I just
felt like Duran Duran has been with me since childhood. So that was the right answer. That
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is fair enough. Okay. Uh, yeah. If I could go back and train and, or gin blossoms, that one really,
um, I might change that answer. I panicked. I might change it. That's all right. I mean,
Hey, look, hit for hit. I think gin blossoms wins, but I mean, at some point it just comes down to
personal preference. We just joke because, uh, we've seen train somehow, what, like 87 times.
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A lot. We don't specific. I mean, we actually have gone to see them, but like they were on so many
like tours opening or whatever for other bands that we were going to see that we, we realized
we're like, Oh my God, we've seen train like literally like probably six times and, uh, we
weren't always going to see train, but they were always on the bill. It was weird. So we always
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joke about how much we love train just by default. We love. Yeah. Yeah. Just cause we've seen them so
much. All right. Well, that was fun. Thank you, babe. Thank you. Uh, I hope I answered quickly.
It seemed like I was slow. Uh, no, again, you still listen and see how much of a hypocrite I am. Yeah.
Yeah. No, no job. Well done. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed that. And, uh, yeah, you, you, you, you, you
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hammered through that pretty quick. You, you were faster than Brandon. I think Brandon might
win for the slowest delivery so far. Yeah. He really struggled, man. I really threw him with
some of those. Oh, I beat him up really good. He just couldn't pick. Yeah. I beat him up really,
really good. Oh my God. All right. Well, cool. Thanks again, babe. Appreciate that. Thank you.
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Uh, it was a joy being on here for the first time. Woo. Nice.
All right. Well, Mack, what do we got on deck? We have any shout outs. Yeah. Just,
just in general, just want to again, thank everybody who's, who's listening, um, all over
the world, all over the U S for picking up listeners, uh, every day that are coming and
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checking this out, either checking out one episode or coming back for more and more and more. So
that's great to see on YouTube. Um, we're getting a lot of great interaction, uh, with people,
some of the videos that we've been posting lately. So all positive, all fun. So everybody out on
YouTube, thank you for the comments and, uh, keep it coming. We're really enjoying it. Yeah,
absolutely. We always are looking for any kind of, uh, show ideas or again, if we said something
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that wasn't quite accurate, you know, call us out on it, let us know. But, uh, yeah, definitely be
in touch and let us know what you want to hear. Yeah. Yeah. So like I said, check us out on YouTube
and, uh, Instagram, Facebook threads. We're everywhere. Um, wherever you do your social
thing, um, wherever you listen, rate, review, subscribe. Um, we definitely appreciate that.
All right. Well, that's going to wrap it up for us again, Chris, thank you for being here
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and, uh, we will be back with another episode real soon. Once again, it's the greatest mixed
state podcast. I'm Eric and I'm Matt and we'll talk to you soon.
Hey, welcome everybody to the greatest mixtape podcast. My name is Eric and my name is Mack.
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And tonight we're going to do something we haven't actually done for at least a few episodes.
Yeah, it's been a long time where, you know, we've we've used this phrase before, but hey,
man, we're just we're gonna we're doing some jazz tonight. We're just we're improv and
man, right? Exactly. Yeah, we're riffing. We're just gonna see where it goes. Yeah. So we
don't have a specific topic in mind. You know, a lot of times we'll do a list or a countdown or a
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favorite this or tonight we're just gonna reach in the bag of topics and just kind of talk and see
where we're a can of mixed nuts. That's what we are. I've been called worse. For being totally
honest here. I always find myself kind of sifting out the almonds. I don't like the almond. I dig
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the almonds. I'll do that. Give me some cashews. You know, I'm good to go. Anyway, anyway, that was
way too much about our favorite nuts. So all right. Well, Mac, why don't you pick the first
topic here? Okay, this is going to be a topic. I mean, this is something that just in regular
conversation we talk about all the time. Sure. The band Metallica, some of you may have heard of
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them. They've got a couple of big albums. Yeah, yeah. But they are one of the greatest cover bands
ever. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So that's what we want to talk about. Like we're both going to pick
our favorite Metallica cover song. Yeah. And again, that's a pretty hefty list of songs to pick from
too. They have done, I mean, entire albums, double albums of cover songs. I mean, there's a lot to
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pick from. Yeah, a lot of material there. So I'll jump in here. All right. Go for it. I'm gonna go
with their cover of Am I Evil? The original is with Diamondhead. That's a song from their 1980 album,
Lightning to the Nations. And then Metallica covered it. It was originally a B-side on Creeping
Death. Yep. 1984. Yeah. But then also showed up on the 1998 covers album Garage, Inc. But one of
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the heaviest intros of all time. It's slow, plodding, build up. Such a heavy riff. Oh, that riff
kicks in. It's so heavy. Yep. And if you go back and listen to the original Diamondhead version,
fantastic song. Great, great song. Yeah. But Metallica just gave it more of an edge. Yeah.
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Made it heavier. And it's just, you feel that build in your chest. Yeah. And it's just so strong.
And then it's a longer song. Of course you have the guitar solo. But then towards the end of the
song, that main riff comes back in and just blows your head off. It's so great. That's my favorite
Metallica cover song. That's cool, man. And in full disclosure, that was also on my list. But in
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typical me fashion, I had a couple because I can't pick. So yeah, that's definitely one of my
favorites too. And that was my first exposure to a Metallica cover song. And at like, what, 13 years
old when that thing came out, I believe it was 1984. Yeah. I didn't know Diamondhead anyway. So
I mean, there's no reason I would have known that was a cover song. Until you're reading the liner
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notes and you realize, wait a minute, this wasn't written by Hetfield and Ulrich. So you're like,
wait, who was this band? So it kind of led me down the path of, oh, these are some of their influences.
The New Wave of British Heavy Metal, bands like that. And Tigers of Pantang and Saxon and bands
like that. So yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you, man. I'm a big, big fan of that song. And to this
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day, it's a staple in their live set. It's just such a great song. I think it stands up to this
day too. And I think that song was only four years old when they covered it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's
crazy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Is that like they're going back 20 years and picking some obscure,
you know, old song? It was four years old. That's so great. I remember being a teenager and having
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the cassette single for Creeping Death and just, you know, wore that thing out, man. I've said this
before on the podcast, but you know, there's been a few tapes in my life that I've bought multiple
copies of because I legit wore them out. And that cassette single for Creeping Death with the B
side being Am I Evil? It was, yeah, probably three or four copies of that. And like you said, it's
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a staple of their live show. And if you've seen Metallica and you've seen Am I Evil live, it's
just, yeah, it's incredible. It's killer. It's so killer. Nice dude. Good choice, man. Well, my,
so what would have been my second choice? Probably not a big shock. It's actually two songs from one
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of my favorite bands of all time that they kind of slammed together and released as one track off of
the 1987 Garage Days Re-Revisited album. It was the first recording they did with Jason Newstead,
their bass player after unfortunately Cliff Burton passed away. But I'm talking about Last Caress
slash Green Hell, covers of the Misfits. Again, two songs that are super, super short. So they
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just slammed them together, kind of made one sort of medley out of it. But oh my God, that was my
first real exposure to the Misfits as well. I hadn't really, yeah, Metallica. I mean, honestly,
the Misfits owe a lot of their current popularity to Metallica. Cliff Burton had the iconic Crimson
Ghost skull tattoo on his arm, which, you know, a lot of people are like, what's that? They would
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wear their t-shirts on stage. And back then there was a huge separation between metal and punk. You
know, you were kind of one or the other. There wasn't a lot of metal kids like us that had really
opened up to punk rock yet. And Metallica turned all of us on to the Misfits. And yeah, some of
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us just hook, line and sinker, man. I know I did. I was like, what is this? These guys are crazy.
Got me into a lot of other punk rock after that. But yeah, definitely I owe my love of the Misfits
definitely to Metallica. Yeah, for sure, man. For sure. It's funny, I'd forgotten about those two,
that cover song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And because I think I thought you were going to go with Stone
Cold Crazy. Wow. That's again, it was on my short list. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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But you're right. They cover the Misfits is just fantastic. And they also did another Misfits song.
They did a Die, Die My Darling. That's right. I think that was on Garage Ink, I believe.
Yeah. So many, again, so many cover songs from Metallica, but yeah, pretty much everything they
decide to cover just comes out amazing. Even some of the stuff that they released during their
commercial phase, you know, the Turn in the Page or Whiskey in the Jar. You know, some of those are
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a little more obscure for a band like Metallica, but man, looking back on them, you're like, Jesus,
these are fantastic covers, man. Yeah. Yeah. So an uncanny ability to pick amazing songs and then
totally putting their stamp on it and just doing an amazing job, you know, reimagining those songs.
And I don't know what album it's on, but they also do, obviously, they do a great cover of
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53rd and 3rd by the Ramones. Oh yeah. I don't know what that's on actually. But yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Again, man, dipping into the punk rock stuff. And I mean, you know, they go from Bob Seeger to,
you know, the Ramones and the Misfits. And I mean, just great stuff, man. It's a lot of fun.
Yeah, man. Love Metallica. Great, great, great band. Original music, obviously, but just a
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fantastic cover band. Yeah. And still to this day, man, you can say what you want about, you know,
their music catalog over the last, you know, 15, 20 years or whatever, but man, live, they just,
they'll deliver, man. They put on such a fun show and, you know, to hear those classic songs live
and loud and it's just, it's a blast, man. Yeah. Yeah. I love them live. Right. Where are we going
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to next, sir? So let's take a, let's take a bit of a left turn from the Metallica and metal side of
things. Let's revisit a topic that I think we had touched on at least a little bit in some of our
conversations in the past. I don't know if we fully covered it as a segment on the show before,
but let's talk about our favorite rap slash hip hop verse. Yes. Now again, here's a topic where
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this one, man, it was so hard because not only do you have to, you know, find it a song with an
amazing verse in it, but a lot of those songs have four or five amazing verses. So you've whittled it
down to a song, but now you got to pick one. Like, well, I don't know, is verse two better than verse
one or man, there's just so much great bars out there that, that my God, yeah, it was, it was a
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bit daunting, but I'm interested to see what you came up with on this one. I mean, like you said,
there's 20 different ways I could have gone on this one, but I had to go with Phife Dogs verse,
can I kick it by Tribe Called Quest? It's so good, man. It's, it's, it's fairly, fairly simple.
Yep. You know, in its scheme, but it's just delivered so well. Yeah. And there's just a couple
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slight little like moments of genius in there, different reflections are emphasizing different
words that give it a twist and then it comes back to the main rhyme. You know, so I mean, can I,
can I do this here? Oh, a hundred percent. I would be upset if you didn't. All right. Can I kick it
to my tribe that flows in layers right now? Phife is a poem sayer at times. I'm a studio conveyor.
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Mr. Dinkins, would you please be my mayor? You'll be doing us a really big favor. Boy, this track
really has a lot of flavor. When it comes to Rhythm's Quest as your savior, follow us for the
funky behavior. Make a note on the rhythm we gave you. Feel free, drop your pants, check your hay.
Do you like the garments that we wear? I instruct you to be the obeyer. A rhythm recipe that you'll
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savior doesn't matter if you're minor or major. It's the tribe of the game rhythm player as you
inhale like a breath of fresh air. Nice job, dude. And, and get this man a gold chain. The,
the little, just a little stroke of genius. Yeah. Do you like the garments that we wear? He didn't
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say garments, right? Garments. Garments. And it just throws off that rhyme just a little bit,
gives a little bit of break and then he comes right back in. Yeah. It's just that little thing,
that little inflection. It just makes it so cool to me. Like I just dissect that verse. Yeah.
You know, cause again, it's kind of a simple rhyme. It's fun. Yeah. But just those little things
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Fife is doing in there, they just make it so much fun. Yeah. Just add a little bit of, you know,
flavor to it. So it just doesn't get super repetitive. You know, like just kind of flip
things a little bit here and there just to break up, you know, that repetitive flow. Yeah. Rest in
peace, Phife dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Phife was one of the most underrated MCs too, from that
era. Just, yeah, just so good. The funky diet. And of course he's, you know, he's in a group with
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Q-Tip who's also one of the top, what, five or 10 MCs of all time. Yeah. Yeah. And again, you know,
he gets a little overshadowed because of Q-Tip, but yeah, I always loved Phife, man. Yeah. Nice.
What do you got? Well, my choice is, I know that you probably, because you're a fan of Phife,
you probably, because I sing the praises of Biggie Smalls all the time and I say how he's
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my favorite rapper of all time. I didn't actually go with a Biggie song for this one. Wow. And again,
I can't say that this is my choice for greatest verse ever. I don't think I could actually do
that. It's the greatest verse that I'm going to talk about tonight because I don't know if I could,
because tomorrow I would probably go back to a Biggie verse, but actually tonight,
I just felt like Wu-Tang has to be in this conversation. So I am actually going to
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present Inspecta Decks verse from the song Triumph. Oh, yeah, dude. It's from their 1997
album Wu-Tang Forever. And again, Wu-Tang's got a million and one verses that you could pick for
this topic, man. But I've just always loved this particular verse. The word play is just off the
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fucking charts, dude. And I could not even begin to get anywhere near a flow like Inspecta Decks.
So I'm just going to read these lyrics. If they happen to come out a little bit poetic,
fucking great. But I mean, just listen to this word play, dude. I bomb atomically Socrates
philosophies and hypotheses can't define how I be dropping these mockery's lyrically perform
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armed robbery, flee with the lottery possibly they spotted me battle scarred showgun explosion
when my pen hits tremendous ultraviolet shine blind forensics. I inspect you through the future
see Millennium kilabies sold 50 gold 60 platinum shackling the masses with drastic rap tactics
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graphic displays melt the steel like blacksmiths black Wu jackets Queen bees ease the guns in
rumble with patrolmen tear gas lace the function heads by the score take flight inside a war
chicks hit the floor die hard fans demand more behold the bold soldier control the globe slowly
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proceeds to blow swinging swords like shinobi stomp grounds and pound footprints and solid rock
Wu got it locked performing live on your hottest block. Damn, dude. God damn. I'm out of breath.
And I was just reading it. Right. You know, good God, that word play is sick, dude.
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And that's what I love about Wu Tang. Yeah. Number one thing, the word play. Yeah. It's so
smart and so well thought out. Yeah. I mean, to drop a reference to a blacksmith. Yeah, right.
I mean, come on. Yeah. Melt steel like blacksmiths. And he wrapped it with he rhymed it with rap
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tactics. I mean, it's just so good. So good. Every one of them is just phenomenal in their own right
to but yeah, that particular verse from Inspector Deck is just all time classic. If you ask me,
dude, that's sick. Hell yes. Hell yeah. I'm sitting here listening to you read it. I'm just like,
like trying not just but in and go. I know, right? Yeah, man. And yeah, just reading the lyrics,
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man. I'm like, when we get done, man, I'm going to go listen to some Wu Tang. I have to have to
I know all day tomorrow. Right. It's a Wu Tang day. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So yeah, if you're
listening and you don't know what we're talking about, God, go educate yourself on some Wu Tang
clan. Just pick a record and jump in, man. And just everything they've ever ever put out has just been
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phenomenal. Dude, Wu Tang forever. Absolutely. Wu is for the children.
Rest in peace, ODB. That's right. So where are we going next? This is going to be interesting. Okay.
Now, I want to talk about a song that either makes you cry or get emotional.
Okay. And, Eric, I'm dying to hear where you're going to go with this. You know, I'm not even
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going to sit here and try and play hard and be like, yeah, what songs don't really make me cry,
man. No, dude, fuck that. There are some songs that can get me at least choked up, maybe shed
a tear here and there, man. And I had a few on a short list, but one in particular, I may get
choked up even just telling you the story. But there's one song in particular that always,
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always, always, especially now gets me choked up. And it's a song called Sometimes It Snows in April,
which is a Prince track. It's from his album Parade, which was also the soundtrack to his film
Under the Cherry Moon, which came out in 1986. And he wrote, performed and produced the song
with his guitar player and piano player, Wendy and Lisa of the Revolution. They were still with
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him at this point. The song is about his character from the movie. He plays a character called
Christopher Tracy in the movie Under the Cherry Moon. In the film, Christopher Tracy passes away.
And so the song is written from the perspective of the narrator and he's kind of talking about
Christopher Tracy's death and also talking about how he one day hopes to reconnect with Tracy
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in heaven in the afterlife. And it's a beautiful song anyway. The melody is just gorgeous. Of
course, Prince is a master lyricist. And in my opinion, some of the best work he ever did was
when he was working with Lisa and Wendy. So it's just, it's an amazing song, very simple, just
acoustic guitar, piano and Prince singing. It's beautiful. It was a tearjerker to begin with, but
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after Prince passed away in 2016, the song found new life. It was never released as a single,
so it never charted the first time around. But after his death, a lot of people kind of
rediscovered that track and it actually started charting without even being officially released
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as a single in many countries in Europe. So it kind of gained a new life. But if you listen to
the song now, it's almost prophetic and it's just, you're hearing, and he's kind of singing
about his own death anyway, because he's singing about the character that he plays in this movie
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passing away. So you're kind of listening to him sing about his own death. And man, you want to
talk about a track that can get you, if you're even mildly a Prince fan, that song can get you.
It'll get you. Oh man, you've given me some homework to do. It's a beautiful, beautiful song.
I'm just not familiar with it, but now I have to go listen to this song. Yeah, it's, yeah,
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the song having its second life, unfortunately, after Prince passed. But yeah, that song gets me
every time, man. Wow. Great, great track. Yeah, man. Actually, that soundtrack, that album is
really, really good anyway. There's a lot of great stuff on it, but that's definitely a highlight
for me. What do you got? What gets you emotional? Do you know the song Remember Me from the movie
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Coco? I cannot say that I do. I did see the movie. I did. I just, that totally caught me off guard,
man. I was waiting for like a Queen song or something, or like a John Lennon, you know,
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you're going to give me like Imagine or something. You come back with a Disney song. I can't say I
remember the track, but I did see the movie. I did see the movie. Okay. Okay. That was great.
Okay, Coco, the 2017 Disney Pixar movie celebrating Dia de Muertos. Yes. So the young man Miguel,
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you know, he's kind of confronted with his family's ban on music. And so he enters the land of the
dead to find his great-great grandfather, a legendary singer named Ernesto de la Cruz.
Yes. Turns out great grandfather is actually a guy named Hector, who was killed by Ernesto de la
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Cruz. But Miguel has to get back to the land of living to remind his great grandmother, Mama Coco,
of her father, Hector, before he's forgotten forever. Right. So when he gets back and he
gets to Mama Coco and he's trying to get her to remember her father, he sings the song Remember
Me, which Hector used to sing to Coco when Coco was a baby. Yes. Now I'm remembering it. Okay.
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Yeah. And Mama Coco is super old. She's on the verge of dying. Her memory is shot, right? And
the little boy is singing Remember Me and Mama Coco starts singing. Oh my God. And the tears
are coming out her eyes. Dude, I fucking lose it. That's awesome. It's so goddamn touching. Right.
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And the song, you know, obviously it makes you think about people you lost, but also
how you want to be remembered. Sure. And not be forgotten. Yeah. You know, which is kind of the
theme of the movie. Right. But bro, man, I'm telling you, I catch Mama Coco singing that song
and I'm, it's over. Waterworks. Actually, it's funny. I was just watching it over the weekend
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with my daughter, right? And we get to that part and it's just me and her, we're the only, you know,
my wife wasn't home and my daughter looks at me, she's like, mommy always cries at this part.
And I'm like, yeah, sit tight kid. Cause you're going to see me crying. I was going to say,
are you just like at this point, are you like choking them back or what? That's amazing.
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Yeah. Choking them back big time. Oh, that's adorable, man. Bro. Like, oh man, but you're right.
I mean, I could have gone with John Lennon or. Oh yeah. I was, yep. I was fully ready for a John
Lennon or even like I said, like queen, like they've got a couple that can get you kind of,
you know, wow, I did not see a Coco coming. That was great, man. This it's times like this. I wish
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we did film these and like, you know, so people could, could have seen my face, dude, cause it
was probably a good like half a second of just sheer, like, what? Like I was so confused for a
second. I was like, what did you just say? And then yeah, that's, that's amazing. I love that choice.
That was good stuff, man. Go watch that clip tonight. When mom and Coco start singing.
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Oh my God. I'll be balling crying like a baby, dude. That's a good flick, man. Now I want to go
watch that. That's a great movie. Yeah, it really is. It was super cute. Yeah. So, oh, here's a fun
one. I kind of came up with this one last minute, but let's talk about television appearances by
either bands or artists that are just kind of either legendary or, you know, really struck you
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as something special. It could be a performance. It could be an interview. It could be a cameo on
a TV show, just, but just, you know, a rock star or band, you know, making a television appearance
that just kind of did something for you. I'm I got two here. Okay. One being a guest appearance.
I'm going to go with, I'm going old school back to the eighties. I'm going Phil Collins on Miami vice.
(22:40):
Oh, dude. That's a good one. And you know, the episode's great. He's like this con man
slash game show host or something. Yeah. But one of the reasons I remember that episode so well is
not because of Phil Collins, but also on his game show, one of the guests, one of the contestants
is played by emo Phillips. Oh my God. That's right. Wow. There's a name I haven't heard in a long,
(23:06):
long time. And he's doing his whole gimmick, you know, he's all confused and he's answering
the questions wrong and he's all flustered. It's great. That weird voice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But then for like an ongoing role, I'd be remiss if one of us didn't mention little Steven Van Zandt
and the soprano soprano, Silvio Dante. Yeah. I mean, that's gotta be up there. It's one of
(23:30):
the greatest roles all time. Number one, but just from a musician standpoint, a guy that didn't have
any real acting ability. Sure. But David Chase created that role for him. This could be like them.
Yeah. So that's to me, that's up there. He's got to be on the list. That's one of those characters
where I feel like the show just wouldn't have been the same without him. Right. You know? Yeah,
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that's cool, man. There's been a lot of rock stars that tried the acting route and it didn't always
work out. You know, sometimes you just stay in your lane, but that was a good one. That was a fine
choice because yeah, he was fantastic on that show. Well, I've got a couple as well. Both of mine are
more television appearances versus TV shows. But the first one, I couldn't talk about this topic
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and not bring this one up because it's one of my all time favorites. I'm not the biggest Who fan.
I like a lot of their stuff, but when you have the conversation of bands of that era, you know,
it's always Led Zeppelin for me. It's, you know, the Who is kind of further down on the list.
There's a lot of other bands I would put above them, but their exploding drum set on the Smothers
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Brothers Comedy Hour in 1967. If you've never seen this, please go to YouTube immediately and
bring this up. Yeah, like I said, 1967, they were performing. I'm making the air quotes in my
fingers because they were lip syncing. Everybody did. It wasn't, you know, that they weren't,
you know, good enough to perform live just on television back then. Everybody lip sync.
(25:03):
That's how it was just standard practice. Right. So anyway, they were doing My Generation. And
before the performance unbeknownst to the rest of the band, Keith Moon, the drummer, had bribed one
of the CBS stagehands to not only put explosives in his kick drum, which was kind of his shtick.
(25:24):
He used to do this a lot, but he actually put like three times the amount that he normally put in
there. Like normally there'd be a little boom and some smoke would come out and everything.
He bribed this guy. He put three times the amount of explosives in his kick drum that he normally
used. So at the end of the performance, you see, you know, Keith is standing up behind his drums
and he's hitting stuff and you see him, you know, stomp. It must've been like a trigger pedal or
(25:49):
something, but he triggers that thing and holy shit, the biggest explosion goes off and the rest
of the band, you see them, like it scares the shit out of them. The shockwave was so big that it
actually rendered the cameras blind for a second. Like when you watch the clip, the cameras that are
on the band actually go black for a second because the shockwave fucking shut them down.
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But the explosion was so big, a piece of cymbal broke off and cut Keith Moon's arm. Fire from
the explosion singed Pete Townsend's hair. You see him patting the back of his head and he's got
smoke coming out of his hair. And then years later, Pete Townsend attributed a good portion
(26:34):
of his massive hearing loss to that incident that, you know, from the exploding drum, but holy shit,
man, this is not rehearsed pyrotechnics. This is just rogue, insane shit from the sixties, man.
Can you imagine having a guy that unpredictable in your band?
Jesus Christ, dude. He, I mean, they call him moon the loon. He was out of his freaking skull, dude.
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That dude was nuts. We're going on national TV and our drummer puts fucking explosives in his kick drum.
And then almost kills his band. I mean, if one of us seriously like that could have gone wrong
in so many ways. A little singed hair was nothing compared to what could have happened.
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I mean, Jesus, I don't think he'd ever put that much in his drums before. So yeah, who knows what
could have happened, but luckily everybody survived, but it made for just an iconic piece
of television. So again, if you've never seen that it's the who on the Smothers Brothers comedy
hour, 1967, go look it up. It is absolutely phenomenal. Which was like this super clean
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family show. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. It was a comedy sketch comedy vaudeville kind of vibe,
you know? And yeah, they already took a bit of a chance bringing the who on in the first place.
And then that shit happens like, Holy Christ. So I just, again, I felt like I had to talk about
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that at least for a minute. But the real one I want to talk about, this is my all time favorite
moment of rock stars or a band on a TV show on a talk show setting. And it was your favorite band,
Kiss. On October 31st, 1979, they were on the Tom Snider's Tomorrow program. And this is some
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iconic TV, man. So by 1979, the wheels were already starting to come off the vehicle, let's say.
Tensions in the band were super high. Only a short time after this interview happened,
Peter Chris ended up quitting the band. You know, Gene and Paul were kind of trying to control
(28:50):
everything. And then you've got Peter and Ace who were completely out of control. And it was just,
it was a recipe for disaster. So they're going on this show on Halloween night 1979. And they're
going to do this, you know, this interview, right? And so Tom Snider is already warned by his
producers ahead of time. He's like, Look, you know, Ace is going to be a little tough to get to talk.
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He's very shy. You know, the other guys that talk your talk your ear off, but AC might he might need
a little prodding. So in ACE's, you know, anxiety and stagefraze is we can go up and play his guitar
in front of millions of people. But apparently when he had to go on a talk show, he freaked out.
So he's just pounding slowly like in the limo on the way to the show. And then he gets there and
(29:33):
their manager meets them with like a bottle of champagne and is in his dressing room. So he's in
there drinking a bottle of champagne. By the time cameras go on and this is live, ACE is shit faced.
He is hammered. And everything just goes bonkers at like 18 seconds into the interview, you know,
he starts, you know, by introducing the band and immediately Jean and Paul, you know, jump in and
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start, you know, doing their biography of the band and who they are and what they do and blah, blah,
blah, you know, all of this scripted schtick that they would do, right? And ACE. So Tom turns to ACE
because he's already been warned, you know, this guy might need a little prodding. And ACE just
goes off, man. And it's just one just zinger after another. Apparently, before the cameras rolled,
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Tom had mistakenly referred to Jean as the bass player. He mispronounced bass and he said bass.
So when the band is going around and introducing themselves, ACE introduces himself as the he's
like, yeah, I'm ace fairly lead trout player. And, you know, so and immediately just starts cracking
up. Tom starts cracking up. He's going around, he's asking the band, okay, so Jean, you're you're the
(30:44):
demon and Paul, you know, you're the star child. And he says, AC, so you're the you're like the
you're like the spaceman. And he goes, actually, I'm a plumber with his like thick New York accent.
And again, they just start laughing the whole time. Jean and Paul are shooting daggers at ACE.
And Peter, who was kind of like Peter and ACE, if you read their books and stuff, like they were
(31:06):
like two peas in a pod. So of course, Peter is just laughing his ass off, which is just egging
ACE on even more. And he's just cracking joke after joke. And when he says he's a plumber, Tom
says something about, oh, I've got a I've got a pipe I'd like you to look at. He goes, tell me about
it. I mean, it's just the whole thing. It's so good. It's so good. And at one point, he's got a
(31:29):
little teddy bear. And he's taken like his armbands from his from his uniform, you know, and he's
putting them on the bear. And he's like, I'm a space bear. And he's just saying all this ridiculous
shit. And again, what makes it so funny is that Jean and Paul are just visibly pissed off. And
it's just it's it's uncomfortable and funny. And just an insane moment. And ACE is just and Tom is
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having the time of his life. Like, apparently, I read that even after the show, Tom went to ACE's
dressing room, and they like hugged it out and was like, thank you so much. That was an amazing show.
Like if Jean and Paul had done their thing, it would have been boring. You know, ACE made the
segment. So again, I encourage you if you if you've never seen that, please go go look that up. It is
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just one of my favorite kiss moments ever. So good. I may have to go give this band a listen.
This kiss. This kiss. Yeah. They might have a bright future. You know. All right. Well,
that brings us to one of our favorite segments on the show. And we have a special guest. Oh,
my God, I can't wait for this. I cannot wait. All right. So we are going to bring my lovely
(32:38):
wife, Chris, in to do the ride the lightning round. This is the first time we've ever actually had
somebody come in that wasn't, you know, a guest on the entire show. So we're trying to, you know,
change things up a little bit. We just thought, you know, instead of me and Mac asking each other
questions, you know, why not make it a little more fun? Let's bring other people in. So without
further ado, let's bring her in here, babe. Yes. Are you there? Hi. Here she is. Longtime listener,
(33:04):
first time caller. Well, we appreciate that. Thank you very much. Full disclosure, Chris is actually
in another room of the house, so she didn't hear any of the warm up to this, but she obviously
knows why she's here. I do. I do. And I heard nothing to lead up to this. So, okay. Okay. And
you know how the ride the lightning round works. I'm going to give you 10 this or that questions.
(33:29):
The idea is to rapid fire answer, try not to give it too much thought. And I made a bold prediction
before we hit record tonight that you will probably have the fastest time in the history of the ride
the lightning round. I say that because I know you and you follow rules to a T. And when we say the
idea is to do it as fast as possible, I know you and you're going to fly through this. Yeah, but
(33:51):
here's what's interesting because when I listen, I want to see how much of a hypocrite I am is
really what I'm about to say is because like when I hear it, I'm like yelling into my phone, like,
hurry up, hurry up. Don't think about it. But I'm pretty sure that now that I'm in the hot seat,
like I'm going to also think about it. Okay. All right. I'm going to try. I mean, everyone else,
(34:14):
I know they get hung up here and there. And I'm like, even though I'm yelling at them,
um, no, I think I'm going to be the same way. I think I'm gonna be the same way, but I'm gonna
try not to. I'm going to try not think about it and just just go, just fly. All right. Well,
I mean, that is the idea is, is that it's supposed to not be easy. You know, it's supposed to cause
you some stress. So we'll see how I did. Are you ready? I'm ready. Mac, are you ready? Oh,
(34:38):
I'm so ready. All right, here we go. First off, Duran Duran or Foo Fighters. Oh my God, Duran
Duran. Oh, train or gin blossoms. Wow. Really? Okay. Um, Beyonce or Rihanna. Ooh, uh, Beyonce.
(35:00):
Okay. Skid Row or poison. Skid Row. See, I kind of thought so, but poison had a lot of hits. Um,
okay. Everclear or Pearl Jam. Everclear. See, I told you she's ripping through this. Um,
Alanis Morissette or no doubt. Alanis Morissette. Damn. Madonna or Janet Jackson.
(35:25):
Madonna. You paused. I did. I got a pause. Um, we've talked about kiss a lot tonight. So, uh,
Gene Simmons or Paul Stanley. No, that was the idea. Oh my God. Okay. My head goes Paul Stanley.
Okay. All right. See Peter or ace would have been easy. So I had to go with, with Jean or Paul. Um,
(35:49):
okay. Cinderella or Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi. Oh, wow. Okay. Um, and then your 10th question,
black velvet or blaze of glory. Black velvet. All day, every day. I will belt that song out.
We will go back and explain that in a minute. And I actually have a bonus. I have an 11th question.
(36:11):
We're going to do a bonus round. You ready? Yes. Okay. We're going to talk drummers, Tommy Lee
or your husband. Oh, suck it. Tommy Lee. Also Tommy Lee scares me a little bit. So,
well, I assume you mean from the waist down that thing is terrifying. I'm just going to say in
(36:32):
general, we're not giving you specifics here. Yep. I'm sure he's a very nice man. Uh, I need
none of that going on. All right. Well, at least one person in the world picks me over Tommy Lee.
So thank you, baby. I appreciate that. I'm pretty sure your mom would too. So, all right.
Okay. I got it. I got a, I got a fan club. Um, all right. Is there any of those you want to go back
(36:55):
defend, explain anything like that? I personally want to, uh, cause I just want to explain the,
the black velvet or blaze of glory, the two songs, a lot of miles, black velvet and Bon Jovi blaze
of glory. Do you want to explain why I picked those two songs? No. Oh, come on. Um, I, I can,
um, but I will also explain my why I picked which one. Okay. So yes. Um, so black velvet,
(37:22):
uh, in my youth was my karaoke jam. And she kills it, dude. She kills it. Like velvet, if you please.
Yes, if you please. I've done it in front of people. Um, so I feel more comfortable that that's
the right answer blaze of glory. I just like to belt out in the comfort of my own home or car or
car with theatrics. Yes. Uh, yeah. Yeah. She gets really into it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of our
(37:47):
movement and a lot of like going ons and yeah. Yeah. Very good. Very good. Um, yeah. I thought
Duran Duran versus Foo Fighters would give you a little more pause. You were, you were, you were
surprisingly quick on that one. Yeah. You love both of those bands so much. I do, but, um, I just
felt like Duran Duran has been with me since childhood. So that was the right answer. That
(38:12):
is fair enough. Okay. Uh, yeah. If I could go back and train and, or gin blossoms, that one really,
um, I might change that answer. I panicked. I might change it. That's all right. I mean,
Hey, look, hit for hit. I think gin blossoms wins, but I mean, at some point it just comes down to
personal preference. We just joke because, uh, we've seen train somehow, what, like 87 times.
(38:36):
A lot. We don't specific. I mean, we actually have gone to see them, but like they were on so many
like tours opening or whatever for other bands that we were going to see that we, we realized
we're like, Oh my God, we've seen train like literally like probably six times and, uh, we
weren't always going to see train, but they were always on the bill. It was weird. So we always
(38:57):
joke about how much we love train just by default. We love. Yeah. Yeah. Just cause we've seen them so
much. All right. Well, that was fun. Thank you, babe. Thank you. Uh, I hope I answered quickly.
It seemed like I was slow. Uh, no, again, you still listen and see how much of a hypocrite I am. Yeah.
Yeah. No, no job. Well done. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed that. And, uh, yeah, you, you, you, you, you
(39:23):
hammered through that pretty quick. You, you were faster than Brandon. I think Brandon might
win for the slowest delivery so far. Yeah. He really struggled, man. I really threw him with
some of those. Oh, I beat him up really good. He just couldn't pick. Yeah. I beat him up really,
really good. Oh my God. All right. Well, cool. Thanks again, babe. Appreciate that. Thank you.
(39:44):
Uh, it was a joy being on here for the first time. Woo. Nice.
All right. Well, Mack, what do we got on deck? We have any shout outs. Yeah. Just,
just in general, just want to again, thank everybody who's, who's listening, um, all over
the world, all over the U S for picking up listeners, uh, every day that are coming and
(40:05):
checking this out, either checking out one episode or coming back for more and more and more. So
that's great to see on YouTube. Um, we're getting a lot of great interaction, uh, with people,
some of the videos that we've been posting lately. So all positive, all fun. So everybody out on
YouTube, thank you for the comments and, uh, keep it coming. We're really enjoying it. Yeah,
absolutely. We always are looking for any kind of, uh, show ideas or again, if we said something
(40:31):
that wasn't quite accurate, you know, call us out on it, let us know. But, uh, yeah, definitely be
in touch and let us know what you want to hear. Yeah. Yeah. So like I said, check us out on YouTube
and, uh, Instagram, Facebook threads. We're everywhere. Um, wherever you do your social
thing, um, wherever you listen, rate, review, subscribe. Um, we definitely appreciate that.
All right. Well, that's going to wrap it up for us again, Chris, thank you for being here
(40:54):
and, uh, we will be back with another episode real soon. Once again, it's the greatest mixed
state podcast. I'm Eric and I'm Matt and we'll talk to you soon.
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