Nothin' But a Good Time

Is it Hair Metal? Is it Glam Metal? Is it 80s Metal? Who gives a sh%t?! Forget the labels and just call it what it was and what it still is - a good time! Join us for a nostalgic and spandex-covered trip down memory lane where we celebrate the bands that made their mark on the Sunset Strip and the world. We all know about Motley Crue, but what about Poison, Ratt, Cinderella, L.A. Guns, Faster Pussycat, Whitesnake and Warrant? So tease up your hair, put your lighters in the air and get the party started!

Episode Transcript

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Hey there, welcome back to the Greatest Mix Tape podcast. If you're joining us for the

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first time, welcome aboard. My name is Eric.
And my name is Mack.
Mack and I have been talking a lot about our love of the 80s.
Yes, we were texting over the holiday break just about random ass 80s bands and our love
for every one of them.
Yeah, we were talking about a lot of these bands are touring again. Motley Crue just

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announced they're doing another residency in Las Vegas.
And LA Guns is touring again.
Yeah, just kind of got us all fired up about a lot of those bands that we loved growing
up. So we thought maybe we'd do an episode talking about that.
Yeah, we got absolutely we got a little nostalgic about the 80s and kind of going back to our
roots and talking about some of these great 80s metal bands.

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What we decided to do though is we're not going to focus on the biggies. We're not going
to focus on what we call the A-listers. We're not going to talk about Motley Crue. We're
not going to talk about Bon Jovi. We're not going to talk about Guns N' Roses. You know,
the big, big, big bands. We're going to kind of focus on the B and C tier bands that maybe
don't get enough love or maybe there's some bands that will turn you on to that you don't

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know about or haven't heard in decades.
Honestly, we've spent a lot of time on this podcast talking about Motley Crue and Guns
N' Roses. So it's
Yeah, I mean, there's still some big names on this list. You're going to know some of
these bands, but maybe there'll be a couple in there that maybe you're not so familiar
with.
And just upfront, you know, we're going to set some expectations here. This may be controversial,
but we're not going to talk about Skid Row. We love Skid Row. We worship Skid Row.

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A thousand percent.
We didn't really consider them part of this sort of, you know, the party 80s kind of scene.
They weren't really hair metal. They had a couple of ballads, but
They were definitely, I think, inspired by that movement. But to call them a hair metal
band, they're just, they're just too heavy.
And like, yeah, you said it once in conversation, Eric, about when they came out with Slave to
the Grind, they went heavier. They went harder. They didn't kind of stay, you know, in that

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sort of more poppy space that maybe you could say the debut album was in.
Yeah, a song like 18 and Life made them a ton of money. It gained them a ton of listeners.
But instead of just rewriting, you know, 18 and Life over and over again, they put out
this even heavier fucking record. And then they take Pantera out on tour. I mean, so

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they're as much as we love them. We're not going to talk about them today there because
I just I just we can't call them a hair band. We just can't.
Right. Same goes for like Queens, right? You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were they
were more prog. They were just far too good to be honest.
Yeah. With that said, Mack, you want to start us off?

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Yeah, I'm going to get started here with, you know, this could be a controversial pick.
Some might argue that this band belongs up there with, you know, the Motley's and the
Bon Jovis. OK, but maybe not. But that doesn't mean we don't love them. They just maybe weren't
as successful as Motley Group, Bon Jovi, Guns N' Roses. And that band is Poison. Oh, yeah.

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That's controversial. All right. Yeah. My God. Yeah. We had we had talked a bit about
this earlier and I was struggling with Poison Man. Yes. Again, they were they were huge.
They were huge, but they weren't Motley level. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's that's
why we're starting out with talking about some poison originally formed in Mechanicsburg,
Pennsylvania in 1983 with Brett Michael's on vocals, Bobby Dahl on bass, Ricky Rocket

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on drums and a guy named Matt Smith on guitar. Yeah, I think he left the band because his
name wasn't cool. I mean, you got Bobby Dahl and Ricky Rocket and then Matt Smith. Hi,
I'm Matt Smith. The band moved to L.A. later that year in 83 and replaced Smith with a
guy by the name of C.C. DeVille in 1985. Much better name. And of course, the band got huge.

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They went on to sell more than 40 million albums and DVDs worldwide. But let's talk
about that debut album. Look what the cat dragged in 1986. I remember like getting that
like someone showing me that they were on cassette. I think it was a cassette and I
was with a bunch of guys. I remember someone looking at the cassette and going, boy, those
chicks are hot. Yeah. My first exposure to poison was there was an ad for Look What the

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Cat Dragged In in the back of either Metal Edge or Circus magazine or one of those, you
know, those magazines we used to read all the time. And yeah, it was. And now I'm going
to I'm going to like caveat this, but it was just this little tiny ad in the court. And
now it was it was a pretty decent size, you know, full color image. And I did the same
thing. I specifically remember thinking Ricky Rock was thought they were girls, man. Right.

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I mean, so if you forgot and go look it up, go check out that album cover. Yeah, that's
something. But hey, man, that was what was going on at the time. And those guys owned
it and they just kicked ass. I mean, some of the songs in that first album, I mean,
Cry Tough, I Want Action, I Won't Forget You, the title track, Look What the Cat Dragged
In, Talk Dirty to Me and one of my favorites. It wasn't a big hit, but was a song called

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Number One Bad Boy. Yeah, dude. I loved it because Eric, you used to work at a grocery
store and you used to sing number one bag boy. I was the number one bad boy. That's
right. I'd forgotten all about that. That's amazing. It was fun about I mean, obviously
every everything about them is fun. And you'll notice if you think about it, there's especially

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when you get into their second and third album, there's this working class sort of message
that they keep putting out. It's about having a good time, but it's about working hard and
overcoming. So it was easy for people to fall in love with this band. You watch those videos,
even from like Talk Dirty to Me and already they know how to play to the cameras. Yeah.
They're always making eye contact with the camera. They're always putting on those pouty

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lips and like they knew immediately how to sell their image. Yeah. As far as musicianship
goes, and they'll be the first to say it. I'm not saying anything out of school or anything.
They're not the most accomplished musicians, especially amongst some of their peers. There
are a lot of really, really talented musicians that played that form of music. I know a lot

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of people write hair metal off as being cheesy and whatever, but I mean, if you really listen
to the musicianship of a lot of those bands, there were some serious, serious players back
then and Poison. They weren't these virtuoso players, but God damn, they could write songs,
hooky, catchy songs, and they knew how, like you said, how to work a room, how to work

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a stage. I remember going to see them live in concert and just being blown away at how
much people got into the show because they were just up there having a ball, man. And
people feed on that. They feed on that energy. I remember a while back I saw an interview
with Bobby Dahl and he said, because he was talking about people bagging on him for maybe

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not being the greatest musicians in the world. And he said, hey man, I didn't get into this
to be a musician. I got into this to be a rock star. I remember that quote. Yes. It's
perfect. That sums it up. I get a little tired sometimes of everybody bagging on these bands
for maybe not being virtuosos. You talk about punk rock and the Sex Pistols and Sid Vicious,
he couldn't play bass. They would actually turn his amp off when they were playing live

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and nobody bags on them for not being virtuosos. But for some reason, these 80s metal bands,
if they weren't all fucking Yngwie Momstein, then they were just shit.
Yeah. It is a little ridiculous. When Grunge came along, because I mean, let's face it,
Grunge killed the whole hair movement. Everybody rebelled against that. And all of a sudden,
all of those musicians, all of those bands were shit. A lot of us were listening to those

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bands and then still I embraced Grunge when it came out. I loved it. There were some of
those bands I was absolutely just blown away by, but I didn't turn my back on the things
I grew up on. Did it start to sound a little silly compared to some of the serious music
that was coming out? Yeah, okay. It did. But to just, you know, all these guys and girls
that were, you know, all into the Grunge thing, claiming they never listened to hair bands

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are just full of shit. Like you didn't listen to music until Nirvana came along. I find
that really hard to believe. Right. So if you were listening to rock in those years,
you were listening to Motley Crue and Poison and bands like that. You were. And even at
the time, all those Grunge sort of bands that came out in the nineties, they didn't say
that they listened to that 80s metal. But now later in life, they're fully admitting

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that hell yeah, we listen to that stuff. A thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah. I saw one recently.
I think it was, I think it was, was it Jerry Cantrell from Alice in Chains? It might have
been Jerry, but he was saying how, you know, yeah, all, you know, we, we had to pretend
we hated all that stuff. He said, but secretly we were all listening to like what's Warren
Demartini from Rat doing, you know, and like focusing and studying their solos and all

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those things. Cause you know, Warren was an amazing guitar player. Yeah. Still is. Um,
but yeah, you know, so yes, a lot of those bands, that's where they came from. Go YouTube,
go on YouTube and look up Lane Staley before Alice in Chains. He had poofy hair and was
in like a, a hair band. Yeah. You know, so again, these, these grunge guys, they didn't

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come out of the womb like that. You know what I'm saying? There was an evolution. Um, mainstream
America didn't realize there wasn't evolution because it seemed like it just came out of
nowhere overnight, you know, but that's just not the case. You know, a lot of those guys
were playing in bands that we would call hair bands and then, you know, they evolved into
the grunge thing. It was just a progression, but yeah, man, just, you know, back to poison,

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you know, that along comes the second album open up and say, ah, with the controversial,
you know, cover on the album of the art work. So silly, uh, 1988. Um, but again, nothing
but a good time fallen angel. Yeah. Every Rose has its thorn. Uh, they did the logins
and Messina cover your mama don't dance. Yep. Another great album just loaded with good

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time rock songs. Every Rose has its thorn. Jesus Christ. That thing was on MTV every
like 10 minutes that sold them, you know, some albums too, man. Good God. That song
was huge. And I love the video for nothing but a good time. You know, the beginning with
the, the guy that owns the restaurant, just yelling at the guy who was washing dishes,
washing dishes. Yeah. So great kicks the door down and there's the band. Uh, but they followed

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that up with 1990s flesh and blood. Um, again, a bunch of hits on that one, unskinny bop,
which I can pass on, um, but, uh, something to believe in. Yeah. And my personal all time
favorite poison jam ride the wind. Oh, that was a good one too. Yeah. I love ride the
wind. Yeah. But hey, I know again, a lot of, you know, the, maybe the music snobs out there

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kind of look down their noses at bands like poison, but you know, the songs, even if you
are one of those snobs, you know, you know, the songs, you know how great they are and
how much fun that band is. Yeah. Yeah. And again, when you, when you look at albums sold
and all of that, how many, you know, top 10 or 20 singles they had, it's tough to put
them in that B category, but getting back to the original point of this episode, you're

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right. They just, as big as they got, they didn't quite get that Bon Jovi level, you
know? Right. Yeah. And, and I mean, that's, I mean, it was a pretty high bar, you know?
And I guess there's, there's a reason, you know, when they do these like summer tours,
like for the last couple of years and stuff that poisons opening for motley crew on these
tours and Def Leppard and you know, bands like that, Def Leppard is another one. They're,

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they're an A list band, but that's not to say we don't have love for poison, man. They
were great. Yeah. So much fun. Absolutely. Nothing but a good time. Well, uh, that was
controversial. I'm going to give you that. And, uh, my first pick here is also going
to be a bit controversial because it's very similar in the fact that this band was big.
They sold a lot of records, but again, we've talked about this on this, uh, podcast that

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I just always felt like they were just a half step behind the motley crews and the bands
like that. And I'm talking about rat. I love rat. No, get it twisted. Had some amazing
records. The first string of like, I think the first four or maybe even five records
were phenomenal. You know, churning out hits, all of that stuff. But again, there was just

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something about rat to me. They just always seemed a little bit, you know, just, just
a half a step behind, you know, the bigger, bigger bands. So yeah, rat was actually formed
in, uh, 1976, believe it or not, uh, by Steven piracy, the lead singer. I know it's hard
to believe the band became Mickey rat in 1976. And then by, by 77, it had been shortened

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to just rat grinding for years to make that band. Yeah, dude. LA must've been nuts back
then because if you look at the list of people who have been in that band, I mean, there's
like been like 50 people that were in and out of the, you know, that band or, you know,
the LA guns or guns and roses or all of those LA bands in the, in the late seventies, early

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eighties there. It was so incestuous and people would play with, they'd be in this band for
one week and then they jumped ship and go over to this band. I mean, Jakey Lee was in
rat at one point later went on to play with Ozzy. Yeah, just, it's just nuts to, to do
the deep dive and read, you know, who's been in and out of that band, but unbelievable.
But of course the classic lineup was Steven piracy on vocals. You've got Robin Crosby
on guitar and Warren Demartini on guitar drummer, Bobby Blotzer and a bass player. Can you help

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me out? Been listening to rat for over 40 years. Yeah. Juan Crocier, Crocier. I've never
known how to pronounce dude's last name, man. It's one of those two stuff. We're just going
to say one on bass. They released their first album in 1983. It was actually an EP. It was
their first, you know, self titled EP sold over a hundred thousand records. And, uh,

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one of the things I loved about the, the self titled EP, I don't know if you remember the
album cover album covers were so great back then. It was just this very attractive pair
of legs in high heels with little white rats, like climbing up the fish nets. Of course.
Fun fact, Tony contains legs. Come on. Tony contains like she was dating Robin Crosby,
one of the guitar players at the time. And then, uh, she returned to be on the cover

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of the first full length album out of the seller. That was her. That's her on all fours
kind of like kneeling in the trap doors over the rat. Yeah. That's Tony contain. No shit.
Who you may remember was the video vixen for white snakes videos. Cause she then was, uh,
with David Coverdale. She's on the hoods of the Jaguars or something. Yeah. You know,

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much like poison sold a shit ton of records, tons of singles who were on MTV. They were
all over the place out of the seller round and round. Yeah. I mean, it's still relevant
today. You still hear it in commercials. You hear it in movies. You hear it in TV shows
like that song has stood the test of time. Yes. It was in a Geico commercial a couple

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of years ago that Pete, when it was first released at number 12 on the billboard hot
100. And then in 2020 it hit the billboard rock charts again, peaking at number 18 because
of that Geico commercial. Isn't that cool? That's awesome. Great video with Milton burl
Milton burl and drag and, oh God. Yeah. So, so great. Yeah. VH one actually voted a round

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around number 61 and the greatest hard rock songs of all time. So they go to band. I mean,
dance dance dance, uh, way cool. Junior, way cool. Jr. Oh my God. Yeah. Just sitting here
thinking now they're all coming back like you're in love. Like another great rat song.
They were such a good band man. Lay it down. Lay it down. Yes. And their videos were amazing

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too. Yep. But I mean, I want a woman. I mean, they had so many, so many hit songs. Yeah.
But again, back to my original point just always felt they were just a little bit, you
know, behind the other, other bands of the, of the eight years we call it. Yeah. Yeah.
For sure. It's still love rat, man. Yep. Great. Great band. Yeah. Awesome. All right. Let's

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go with LA guns. Oh dude. Oh dude. One of my favorite bands of that era. Yeah. I love
them. I love them. But the history of LA guns is way too complicated to fully explain. It's
like rap. There were a million people. Yeah. We'll take a half hour to do just that. But
so many musicians in and out, but basically guitars, Tracy guns formed LA guns. Axl Rose

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joined in 1984 for his band. Hollywood Rose broke up. That's wild. Then Hollywood Rose
later reforms Tracy guns joins back up with Axl. Yep. And they renamed the band guns and
roses. Get it. Tracy and Axl have a Tracy and Axl have a falling out. Tracy leaves and
then goes on to reform LA guns in 1986. Wow. Yeah. That's wild. If you didn't know how

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the name guns and roses came about there, you have it. Tracy guns and Axl Rose. Yeah.
But they can, they had a few more lineup changes before their debut album self titled LA guns
finally came out. Yeah. Uh, in 1988, um, which is sort of their classic lineup with Phil
Lewis on vocals. Phil had been around a while. He was in a band back in, uh, back in England

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called named girl with Phil, Phil Collin of death leopard. That's wild. Yeah. That's a
fun fact. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so Phil Lewis on vocals, Tracy guns, of course lead guitar
yet. Mick Cripps on rhythm, Kelly Nichols on base. And you had Nikki Alexander on the
album, but the soon as the album was released, he's replaced by Steve Riley. And that's the

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classic LA guns lineup. Yeah. And Steve Riley came out of Wasp. He was in Wasp before LA
guns. Oh no shit. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Man. Um, but that, but that first album is just, I
still listen to it to this day. I listen to it a lot. I mean, yeah. Songs like no mercy,
sex action. One more reason. Electric gypsy, electric gypsy. I love that song. One of my

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favorite guitarists of all time. Nothing to lose. Bitch is back. Just loaded that album
from start to finish is just incredible. Um, followed it up in 1989, cocked and loaded
again, big hits, rip and tear and never enough. And then of course, you know, they had to
put out the ballad, right? Yeah. Ballad of Jane, which was their biggest hit ever hit

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number 33 on the billboard hot 100. Yeah. Um, so trust me, if, if all you know of LA
guns is, Oh, they were the band that sang ballad of Jane. Yes. Right. But please go
back and do the deep dive. Go back to that first album and it's going to blow your fucking
mind. Yeah. What was cool about them to me was they just always had, they were a little

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dirty. They were gritty. They were grittier. And you know, while they still had, you know,
the hair and stuff like that, they weren't pretty, they weren't, they were more like
sleazy gutter type rock. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't poison. It wasn't pretty boy Floyd
or, you know, a lot of those bands that were really pushing the, the makeup and the big
hair and all that stuff. Like, uh, LA guns was always just a little, a little sleazier

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and dirtier to me. Yeah. And that's what just drew me to them. Just, they weren't as polished.
They were just dirty and nasty. And they, they looked like they stunk. You know what
I mean? Those leathers hadn't been washed in years. Exactly. And I mean that in a great
way though. I'm not, I'm not trying to insult the band. They just, you know, they had that
edge, man. And I mean, that's what guns and roses had. I mean, it was a very similar,

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you know, it was the seedier side of LA, you know, right. Yeah. I loved them for that.
Oh yeah. I'm at 1991 Hollywood vampires had kiss my love. Goodbye. Another great song,
but I got to see LA guns, um, the summer of 2023. So just about a year and a half ago,
nice. Um, Phil Lewis and Tracy guns were the only original remembers members rather, um,

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but they did have ace von Johnson on guitar. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, and of course they sounded
awesome. The show was fantastic. They played all the hits that you wanted to hear. Yeah.
But before the show starts, like the, the house music comes off and you know, the lights
come up on the stage and their PA, you know, LA guns, their PA kicks in and the, then you

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hear diarrhea of a madman by Ozzy start to play. Okay. That's cool. Tracy guns comes
out on stage and plays the whole song note for note, along with the, you know, the recording
on the, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And for all the music nerds in the crowd, I'm just like nerding
out. Like you're watching Tracy guns up there playing diary of a madman, just live. That's

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cool. Like, I'm like, Whoa, it's because Tracy's playing Randy. Like, Oh my God, this is incredible.
And it was such a cool thing. You could tell like some people in the crowd weren't digging
it. Like they were, you know, he could have played crazy train or something a little bit
more upbeat. Right. Right. But the fact that he was like, no, I'm playing diary and I'm
playing it start to finish. That's cool, man. Yeah. He could have easily just done like,

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you know, the main riff or whatever. Right. But now he plays the whole song, the whole
damn song. That's fantastic. Fantastic, man. He was great. Yeah. That's fucking cool. Yeah.
Yeah, man. Love that, Pam. Oh my God. Yeah. Anyone out there, if you don't know, go back,
listen to the first album, self titled LA guns. It's incredible. Oh, it's these episodes,
man. It gets me all fired up because like, you know, we record at night and when we're

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done recording, I'm pretty beat and I want to go to bed, but I want to listen to all
this music that we talk about. Cause like, I haven't listened to LA guns in a while.
Yeah. Just, yeah, it made me realize I'm like, shit, I haven't, I haven't put that on in
quite a while. Now I want to go listen to that. I'll be up till two in the morning.
Well, another band that, that kind of came from that same scene and, uh, they, they kind

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of straddled that line too. They weren't quite as dirty and sleazy as LA guns. Um, but they
weren't quite as pretty as poison either. They were kind of in between. And I'm talking
about faster pussy cat. Man. Love faster. Oh my God. Fantastic band. Yeah. Another LA
band. I mean, 99% of the bands we're guys are out tonight are out there. LA band or

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they were formed somewhere else and moved to LA to find the road to fame. But yeah,
faster pussy cat is LA to the bone, uh, formed in 1985 by, uh, the, the greatest name in
rock and roll history. And I've heard it pronounced Tammy down and timey down either way, whatever
you want to call them. It's a fantastic name and, uh, guitarists, Greg steel and Brent

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muscat and a bassist, Kelly Nichols who went on to play with LA guns. So yeah, again, man,
the incestuous LA, uh, metal scene of the eighties was just, just crazy. Yeah. Had it
had a string of great albums. Uh, their, their first one came out in a 1987. It was faster
pussy cat followed by wake me when it's over in a 1989, uh, whipped came out in 1992. And

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then again, one of the greatest names they put out an album in 2006 called the power
and the glory hole. Fantastic. And, and if you know anything about faster pussy cat,
uh, their lyrics are all very like double entendre and you know, sexual innuendo and

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dude slip slip of the tongue slip of the tongue with a slip of the tongue. I'm in deep shit.
I'm so bad off. I can taste it. I mean, that's fantastic. They, they have a song, uh, called
little dove, which is about the porn star Jeanette little dove. Tammy may or may not
have had a thing with it. I don't know. You know, everything was done with a wink. Yeah.

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Sold over 2 million records worldwide. So again, we're not talking Bon Jovi numbers
or anything, but, uh, I mean, it had a good career. They were signed to electric records
toward with Alice Cooper, David Lee Roth. Then this is my favorite. They actually opened
for motorhead. Can you imagine motorhead fans and, and, and faster comes out on stage. They

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must've been like, what the fuck is this? Their followup album, which came out a couple
years later was that wake me when it's over. Like I said, and, uh, earned gold status in
the United States and they too had their ballad and it was their biggest song of their career.
Uh, house of pain again, got them a lot of attention. Poison Ivy was on that record as

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well. Shortly after that, they recorded for electors 40th anniversary. Uh, there was an
album, a compilation album that came out and they did a cover of Carly Simon's you're so
vain and it is fucking fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about that on our covers episode.
Yes. Oh my God. So yeah, faster pussy cat. If you're not familiar with them, go check
them out. Dude, that first album start to finish. It's so good. I can listen to the

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whole thing. Don't change that song. Smash alley. Like you said, cat house Babylon, Babylon,
Babylon, Babylon, Babylon. Oh my God. Bricky Rackman scratching. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But wow,
that street all the way through that album is just kick ass. I love that. Yeah. Just
bluesy rock and roll. Heard poison Ivy the other day driving around and I was just, okay,
volume up. Yeah. It's a, it's a fun song. It's just fun. Yeah. All right. So now we're

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going to go to another band that everybody, well, mostly everybody's really left. You
should be. Okay. Uh, this band formed back in and around the Philly area in 1983, their
most well known successful lineup, you know, with Tom Kiefer on vocals, Eric Brittingham
on bass, Jeff Labar on guitar and Fred Curry on drums. I'm talking about Cinderella. Awesome

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band. Yeah. Cinderella was a lot of fun. Yeah. Now, you know, debut album night songs, 1986
peaked at number three on the charts went triple platinum. Wow. Yeah, that's huge. I
mean, you hadn't, you had the title track night songs you had shake. Shake me was huge.
Nobody's fool. Yep. Somebody's saving and just for fun. Push, push. Yeah. But yeah,

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that night songs love that album still to this day. It's great, great stuff, you know,
but then you see the long cold winter comes out 1998 also goes triple platinum, but it's
a little bit more blues based. Yeah, for sure. Than night songs. They kind of, you know,
it was still kind of heavy at times, but a little bit more blues based and the opening,
the bat, bat seems to his blues falling apart at the seams. Killer fucking intro. It's my

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favorite Cinderella song, right? Yeah. That's a bluesy cool intro. And then that kick drum
fires up. Yeah. That monster guitar riff comes in. I love that song. It's so good, but that
also feeds a gypsy road. Don't know what you got till it's gone. Last mile coming home,
just loaded with hits. Yeah. And they followed that up in 1990 with a heartbreak station.

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More things changed. Shelter Me, Heartbreak Station. So again, you know, it was again
a little bit more bluesy, some piano thrown in there on some of those songs, some sort
of different backing vocals on some of those songs. So they were just kind of evolving
their sound as they went. Sure. But those first three albums can't go wrong. Got to

(26:59):
see him live back in the day. It was 1991. Oh wow. It was a tour with David Lee Roth,
Cinderella and Extreme. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. Again, man, I've said
it before. I'll say it again a million more times, but your memory blows my mind. I've

(27:23):
done enough damage to the brain cells over the years where I shouldn't be able to remember
anything. Man, it's impressive, man. But, uh, but yeah, man, hey, Cinderella was again,
you can, you can be a snob and you can look down at them and everything, but I'm telling
you, those songs kick ass. Those first three albums are fantastic. And you know, it's funny
too. And I think that they're one of those bands that I think people can crack on them

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or write them off or whatever, because you know how they looked, especially that the
first album, you know, they were, they were fully embracing, you know, the glam thing.
But man, you know, if you just, you put a band out on stage in, you know, jeans and
boots and t-shirts and play Cinderella's music, they're just a rock band. They're just a really
good rock band. You know, they, they didn't, they were a little different from most of

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the glam stuff that was happening as far as I'm concerned. And then again, they went even
further down that road and got bluesier and you know, the, the hair got a little flatter
and you know, they started kind of doing the cowboy boots and hats thing. And I mean, it
wasn't quite country, but you know, yeah, they, they got bluesier and more rock. I mean,
but that first album, you can't, you can't deny that they were a hair man. Yeah, for

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sure. For sure. Later on down the road, they got just a little more rock and roll, but,
but you think they inspired Metallica with those cowboy boots and hats and stuff? Like
for sure. Moving on to another LA band again, formed in 1976, which blows my mind because,

(28:51):
because they didn't really, you know, get popular until the eighties, but man just cutting
their teeth from, from, yeah, the mid mid seventies. And I'm talking about Dockin. Believe
it or not, man, Dockin goes back to, yeah, 1976. Another one of those bands that, you
know, people were in and out of it over the years before the lineup finally gelled and
you know, Don Dockin, of course on vocals, George Lynch, the monster shredder guitar

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player. I can't tell you how many guitar players I knew back in, in those days that just worshiped
him. Like he was a god. He was like the second coming of Eddie Van Halen to a lot of up and
coming guitar players. Man, George Lynch was just insane. Of course, Mick Brown on drums
and Jeff Pilsen on bass. Unfortunately, you know, they had that singer guitar player when

(29:40):
they were gelling, they were amazing, but just so much beef that it finally was the
undoing of the band. But along the way, I mean, their first album came out in 1981,
it's called Breaking the Chains. Fun fact, it was originally released as Don Dockin.
I don't know if there's any actually in print out there that you could find, but I bet they'd
be worth some money. They shortened it later to simply Dockin. So then in 1984, they released

(30:02):
their second album, Tooth and Nail, which had the singles Just Got Lucky, Alone Again.
Remember Alone Again, dude? That song was huge. Into the Fire, sold over a million copies
in the US alone, peaked at number 49. So I mean, a big, big record for them. Followed
by 1985's Underlock and Key, my favorite Dockin record. It's got In My Dreams, The Hunter,

(30:24):
It's Not Love. Do you remember the video? Yeah. They're on the flatbed truck, cruising
down like Sunset Strip, dude. And they were just performing on the back of this truck.
So cool, man. During this time, you know, they were touring with Judas Priest, ACDC,
Aerosmith, Dio, Kiss. I mean, they just, again, were blowing up. Ended up doing the theme

(30:45):
song for Nightmare on Elm Street 3, Dream Warriors. Another great one, great video too.
Then they released Back from the Attack in 1987 with the singles Burning Like a Flame,
reached number 20. Heaven Sent, Prisoner, made it up to number 37. Album reached number
13 on the US charts. Then they did the Monsters of Rock Tour. I believe you saw it. Did you

(31:07):
see that? No, I did not. You didn't. Okay. I know Bob went to it. I couldn't remember
Bob Williams. Okay. It was 1988. Van Halen, Scorpions, Metallica, Kingdom Come, and Dokken.
I mean, what a great, great lineup that was. And then they released a live album, Beasts
from the East in 1988, went gold in the United States. And then the wheels started to come

(31:27):
off. The creative differences, the infighting, the power struggles. Again, it was, you know,
Don Dokken and George Lynch, I guess just two big egos. So they ended up breaking up.
Over the years, they'd get back together here and there or guest appear on each other's
records. They did release a couple more Dokken records over the years, but nothing like those
first formative years of that band. And they certainly had the talent to have been one

(31:52):
of those A tier bands. But just for whatever reason, I always kind of hung out in that
B to C category. Never quite cracked that huge, huge mainstream success, but great,
great band. Great band. Well, I gotta say it. Rocking with Dokken. I mean, yes, when
your band name rhymes with it, rocking. I mean, come on. But I saw this interview with

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Don Dokken years ago and I didn't realize it, of course, until he said it. But the majority
of his song titles had four syllables. Now think about it. Oh my God. I never realized
that. Right. And he did that on purpose. He just, you know, his vocal style and his writing
style just worked better for him. But now go back and look at all their hit songs and

(32:37):
they're all four syllable titles. Oh my God. That's hysterical. All right. I'm going to
go now to a band that did not start out as a quote hair metal band. Another one that
goes back to the seventies, originally formed in London in 1978 as the backing band for
a guy named David Coverdale. Oh yeah. And he had just left Deep Purple and covered.

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Coverdale has been the only constant member throughout the band's history. Sure. But a
few albums between 78 and 1984, you know, up to that point they were pretty well known
for slided in that album. Yeah. That was probably the biggest up until that point. They had
that, you know, featured the title track plus Love Ain't No Stranger, Slow and Easy. Yep.

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Great rock and roll songs, but not hair metal. Right. Right. Until then 1987 hits and the
self titled album White Snake comes out. Good Lord sells eight million copies. Pics at number
two on the charts. Now here's where it gets even better because the, the, the album itself,

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the recording of course featured Coverdale on vocals. Yeah. John Sykes on guitar, Neil
Murray on bass, Ainsley Dunbar on drums and you're all going, who? Yeah. Because most
people got to know a much different version of the band through the videos with of course
Coverdale, but Rudy Sarzo on bass. Yeah. Rudy from Ozzy and Quiet Riot. Quiet Riot. Tommy

(34:06):
Aldridge on drums. Also Ozzy. Also Ozzy and both Vivian Campbell and Adrian Vandenberg
on guitar. So they became Campbell came from Dio. Yeah. Exactly. So those poor guys that
played on the album, no one ever got to know them. Yeah. Everybody got to know the guys
in the video, but it was those videos that kind of, you know, eased them into that sort

(34:31):
of more hair metal. Oh, hands down. The hair all teased up and everyone's looking so pretty.
Yeah. But the songs, the songs were so damn good too. Oh man. Still of the night. Still
of the night. Oh my God. It's still like, that riff comes back in after, come over here,
baby. And then it rips him up. I mean, it's, it's, it's very, and I know that they heard

(34:57):
this their whole career, so he's probably sick of hearing it, but you can't deny it.
It's very Led Zeppelin-esque. I mean, that, that song, you know, totally. Yep. But hey,
it works. Oh my God. Totally. Monster song. Big time. And of course on that album, you
still had Here I Go Again, which has had this resurgence in popularity. Yeah. Again, I think

(35:21):
it was a car insurance commercial, probably a Geico. Oh sure. But yeah, probably. Yeah.
And again, Tawny Catane on the hoods of the car. Yes, exactly. Tawny Catane. Is This
Love? Give Me All Your Love. Like a lot of loving going on in this album. But again,
still everyone knows these songs. Yeah. Everyone, I don't care. People that are, you know, in

(35:44):
their twenties right now know the words to Here I Go Again. Yeah. Right. I mean, oh yeah.
It just sticks around. Movies, TV shows, commercials, like you said. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Absolutely.
And like you said, you can't mention Whitesnake without the videos and Tawny Catane and yeah,
you know, as a young man watching those videos made you feel a certain way. Right. For sure.

(36:04):
You're more and more into Whitesnake. Oh yeah. And actually, Eric, you know, we mentioned
this in our very first episode. We saw them open for Motley Crue. We did. On the Girls,
Girls, Girls Tour in 1987. Yeah. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, man. They were a show. That was
an amazing show too. Holy cow. But man. But yeah, they put out the follow up to that in

(36:28):
2009 slip of the tongue. Yep. Campbell and Vandenberg are out, replaced by Steve Vai.
Steve fucking Vai, dude. Yes. What? Yeah. Talk about a fricking super group, man. Oh
shit, dude. They'd still went out to sell four million copies. Yep. Fool for your loving.
The deeper the love. Again, there's a love theme. He does love love. Yes. Mr. Coverdale

(36:54):
is quite amorous. Yes. But I mean, you can't deny even if you just focus on the self titled
voice snake album. Yeah, they deserve their place in music history. Just that album. 110.
Oh my God. Just again, still the night. Here I go again. You could just take those two
and just, oh my God, what amazing songs. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, coming out of, you know,

(37:20):
he'd been around, man. I mean, Deep Purple. I mean, he, you know, Coverdale knew his shit
by then. Yeah. You know? Yep. And he, the dude knows how to write a song and write a
hook and just, and such a powerful singer too. Oh my God. That man had such an amazing

(37:41):
voice. He's still out touring. I don't know. I can't speak on his vocal abilities these
days. I mean, he's, he's getting up there in age, but, but he's still out there doing
it. God bless him for that. And even if he's half as good as he was back in the eighties,
God bless him. Cause that guy could sing his ass off. Incredible stage presence. Like,
yeah, yeah. He, whole package. Yep. Yep. Yeah. For sure. All right, Eric, what do you

(38:04):
got next? All right. So we made a joke many moons ago on this podcast, how being the,
you know, the Prince fan that I am, I'm going to find a way to work Prince into every episode,
no matter what. Here we go. Here we go. So, uh, there is a Prince connection with, with
my next, uh, my next band here, uh, formed in 1984 in Hollywood, California, much of

(38:30):
young gentlemen. They were, uh, known as warrant. Oh, yeah. That's okay. Okay. Let's hear this
connection. All right. Okay. So the warrant Prince connection goes like this, uh, their
manager, warrants manager, um, somehow, I don't know this part of the story, but somehow
got the ear of Prince's people and Prince himself. And, um, Prince was actually looking

(38:56):
to sign a rock band to his Paisley park record label. Um, you know, predominantly funk and
you know, the, that, that genre. Um, but I mean, Prince was a rocker too, man. I mean,
you know, watch him play live, tell me he's not into rock too. And, uh, yeah, he wanted
to, he wanted to, you know, spread his, uh, wings a little bit and, and work with a rock

(39:19):
band. So somehow somebody got, uh, some of warrants songs, you know, to Prince. And so
Prince funded their demo. He gave him $5,000 and, uh, they recorded three songs, went into
a professional studio, recorded three songs. Uh, Prince again was, was interested. He funded
it and everything. And then, uh, he saw video, they had shot video of a performance. And,

(39:45):
uh, when Prince saw them performing, he decided to pass. And the, the quote was, uh, bands
got a lot of potential. They're really good. Uh, white boy can sing, but motherfucker can't
dance and he decided to pass. But, uh, being the, uh, philanthropic guy that he was, he,

(40:10):
he let them take, you know, keep the demo that they recorded and, uh, and shop it. And
it led to their record deal. And so those songs ended up on dirty rotten filthy, stinking
rich, which was their first full length album after getting a record deal. So there's your,
there's your Prince connection, man. We're going to do it. We're going to do an episode
on like thrash metal and I'm going to figure out a way to like shoe horn prints in there.

(40:35):
Okay. Today we're doing an episode on Norwegian death metal and somehow Prince. Oh man. But
yeah, warrant was another one of those bands that just, uh, had just had all of the parts,
you know, they had the talent, they had the good looking front man who could, you know,

(40:58):
write killer hooks and, and, you know, could write these sort of, you know, sensitive love
ballad type things and then still turn around and write, you know, like a kick ass rock
song and, and for whatever reason, they just, they never quite made that, that big break.
But, um, yeah, like I said, dirty rotten filthy, stinking rich was their first album released

(41:19):
in 1989, instantly successful, uh, charted at number 10 on the billboard 200, uh, had
four hit singles, uh, heaven, the power ballot heaven, sometimes she cries, another ballad.
Yep. No, went to number 27 down boys. Yep. Uh, and then a big talk, which was the, the,
the fourth single off of that record. So again, yeah, I mean, sold a bunch of records, um,

(41:44):
right out of the gate. And then in 1990 released their followup, uh, cherry pie, which was
the kiss of death. That poor guy, man, uh, Janie lane lead singer, main songwriter, the,
the album was originally supposed to be called uncle Tom's cabin. There's a song on the album,
uncle Tom's cabin, and it's a gritty rocker, you know, it's a really, really good song,

(42:06):
uh, heavy guitars, but the record label, they were like, we just, we need a hit single.
There's, there's no anthemic hit single. And so in like literally like 15 minutes, he writes
cherry pie and just launch them into the next, you know, level of, of fame and stardom. But

(42:26):
at the same time, it was a double edged sword because, you know, he said over and over and
many, many interviews, he's like, now I'm the cherry pie guy. I'm hosting cherry pie
contest. I'm doing that, you know, all these, you know, it was, it was a song that he just
slammed together for the record company and it just was never able to escape it. And you

(42:47):
gotta, you know, I, and I think it really troubled him. Uh, he, he had a lot of, you
know, uh, dependence issues later in life and it eventually took him. Um, but you know,
I think that was a big part of his problem too, was just, you know, he wanted to be taken
seriously, you know, and he was a phenomenal musician and a great songwriter. Um, but he

(43:08):
was forever known now as the cherry pie guy. Yeah. Janie lane. Yeah. And you know, even
I remember when that song came out and seeing the video and, you know, I'm a, I'm a young
man, you know, I see that video. Even, even I'm like, this is a bit too much. It's a little
too obvious. I just can't, I can't go on this ride, man. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Never had credibility

(43:30):
again, unfortunately. Yep. Cause there were some, there were some great songs on that
album, like uncle Tom's cat. Oh, sure. Yeah, absolutely. That song rules. I love that song
to this day. And then they put out, um, dog, he dog after that. And they had a couple more
albums. Um, but then by that time it was, you know, the grunge thing was happening and
you know, all of those bands just got, you know, the door slammed in their face. And,

(43:51):
uh, so that was pretty much it. And then he, like I said, yeah, um, you know, Janie lane
struggled with alcoholism and drug addiction later on in life and passed away at a far
too young age. But, um, but man, those first couple of records though, like I said, God,
they were so close to just making that leap into the really, really big, big bands. But
yeah, dude, even down boys are still catchy as hell to me. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.

(44:17):
Yeah. Wow. So yeah, man, there you go. There's some bands that didn't quite get as big as
the Motley's and the guns and roses and the bands like that. But, um, but God, a lot of
great music back then. But yeah, we still love those bands. We hope you do too. And
if you don't know about them, go check them out and, uh, and just get into it, man. Don't
worry about the look or any of the image. Listen to the music. Yep. Yep. Forget about

(44:42):
it. You know, don't even look at pictures of the band. Just put the music on, you know,
find them on Spotify. Don't read anything. Don't look at the pictures. Just listen to
it. Don't go to YouTube and watch videos. Just listen to the exact. And, uh, also we
had put together a list of some honorable mentions too. We won't go into detail about
these bands, but, um, if you're going to do the deep dive, like we're recommending, I

(45:03):
mean, check out bands like shotgun Messiah. Oh, there's another one. Oh my God. What a
band. They were so, so good. And then just, yeah. And then they, they were one of those
bands too. That just got heavier and heavier too. They ended up like ended up like an industrial
project, very nine inch nails. He later on in their career, but man, shotgun Messiah
so freaking good. Yeah, dude. I mean, can't forget about, you know, one of the bands that

(45:27):
started the whole thing. You can't forget about quiet riot. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah.
Do the dive on them. Yeah, absolutely. Dangerous toys. Yes. Remember dangerous. Sporting Woody
teas and please. Yeah. Teas and please. And it was a great song. That was like, I remember
like scared had a message and I remember at the time, you know, like, Ooh, they're actually

(45:49):
like not telling me to go party. They're right. Quite the opposite actually. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Yeah. They, they were a lot of fun. Um, had slaughter slaughter. Yeah. I'll pull
night. Yep. Vinnie Vincent invasion was where Dana strum and Mark Slaughter originally worked
together. Yeah. Bobby rocked to on drums. Yeah. Uh, couldn't work with the maniac Vinnie

(46:11):
Vincent any longer. So they left and started their own thing. So slaughter's another one.
Yeah, dude. Extreme. Oh, extreme. Huge. God. I just saw them, uh, this past year in Dallas
with living color. What a show. Oh my God. To this day, both of those bands still killing
it. Yeah. Nuno Betancourt is still the greatest guitarist alive ever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's,

(46:34):
he's amazing. Dude. What about like white lion? Oh, white lion. There's another band with
some serious fucking players, man. Yeah, dude. Vito brought Vito Brada on guitar. He was
a very, very Eddie van Halen S, you know, the finger tapping. Yeah. Um, and, uh, James
Lomenzo on bass is currently the bass player in Megadeth. Get the fuck. How about that?

(46:58):
You go from, yeah, you go from white lion to Megadeth. Yeah, dude. Salty dog. Salty
dog. Oh my God. I, I still, I have that on vinyl, dude. I love that band. Come along.
Dog. Yeah. Come along. Sweet little baby. She's my hot dog bun. What? What? Who writes
that? Oh dude, here's one for you. Uh, the only Christian band that I'm aware of that

(47:24):
went platinum fucking striper striper dude, I will fully admit while I couldn't give two
shits about the message. Yeah. I really didn't care about any of that. I loved striper back
in the day, dude. Yeah. Again, talk about amazing musicians and, and amazing songwriters

(47:45):
and Michael's sweet to this day, dude. Maybe it's clean living, whatever, but that dude
can still sing just like he did. Like just like it's 1987 all over again, dude. Yeah.
He's amazing. I saw them a couple of years ago here too. And, um, yeah, so, so good.
But yeah, striper. Yeah, dude, we've, we've mentioned her a couple of times, uh, on the
podcast, Lita Ford. Oh yeah, dude. Yeah. Lita Ford's fucking incredible. Coming out of the

(48:09):
runaways like a sort of punky rock, you know, band, all girl band and then strikes on her
own and does the, you know, the LA kind of, kind of sound duets with Ozzy and yeah. God
worked with, uh, Lemmy from motorhead. Like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. She's bad ass, man. Yeah.
I love her. Yeah, man. Love it. All right. We got, we got something special here tonight.

(48:31):
Um, since we're talking about, uh, some of our favorite music from the eighties, we're
going to bring in a friend of ours who we've talked about quite a bit on the podcast. Yes.
You may have heard his name once or twice, uh, especially reminiscing about old times.
We refer to him as, as Bob Lava. Um, he was, he's been with us since way back in the day,

(48:52):
uh, going to concerts and enjoying all this music. Um, so, Hey, without any further ado,
let's bring them in. Ladies and gentlemen, Bob Lava, Bob Lava. Hey, how y'all doing?
Fantastic, man. I just, yeah. Happy to finally get you on the podcast, man. This is going
to be fun. Yeah. You know, I'm actually here to bring some thunder to this lightning round.

(49:15):
Oh, that's right. Bob. Well, first, first, before we get to the action, that's yeah,
Bob, you know, Bob has many things, but he's also the star player and what we've known
for years, every weekend we're together, it's a nonstop Bob weekend. Yes, that's true. Where

(49:37):
every song we hear, we insert Bob's name into the lyrics. Yes. And it goes on for days.
Oh yeah. And, and it, as stupid as that sounds, it is one of the funniest, stupidest, ridiculous
things we do. But we never, we never seem to, to run out of like ways to impress ourselves

(50:00):
by incorporating Bob's name into songs. Yeah. It's become a musical lifestyle, hasn't it?
Over the last few decades. It really has. That's a great way to put it. Yeah. Thank
you. It's not just something we did as kids. We are grown ass men and we're still doing
this. Well, we never truly grow up all the way. That's true. No, that's fair point, Bob.

(50:22):
Yeah. Yeah. And back in the day, Bob used to host a little festival every summer called
Bob Fest, where several bands would play. We'd be out playing charts, having a good time.
Oh yeah. I always enjoyed Bob Fest. Yeah. That was a good time back in those years.
Yeah, man. Definitely. Yeah. We got a, Bob got a cease and desist from Sharon Osborne

(50:44):
because it was just too close to Oz Fest. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, we tried to top
them and just couldn't do it. Many, many court battles later, he was able to keep. Right.
As Bob alluded to, Bob is here for the ride, the lightning round. Yeah. We have a special

(51:07):
round for Bob, sort of based on what our previous conversation was for the episode talking about
music from the eighties and that era. And Bob being a big fan of that time and that
music, we're going to torture him a little bit with the lightning round. Yes. I'm ready.
I'm ready. Bring it on. Okay, Bob. So we're going to tag team this one here. We're both

(51:27):
going to run a bunch of this or that questions by you and you got to just, you can't take
too much time to think. You just got to keep moving. Once we get through it, if you want
to go back and defend or explain anything, you can. All right. I'm ready. Are you ready?
All right. Okay. Here we go. Let's do it. Here we go. Guns and roses or Motley crew?
Motley crew. Docken or Lynch mob? Oh, I'm going to go with Docken. Ooh. Winger or trickster?

(51:56):
I'm going to go with Winger on that. All right. Steve Vai or Eddie Van Halen? Oh boy. I'm
going to stick with Eddie. Yeah. Long live Van Halen. Yeah. Okay. Okay. The subject of
this one is assless chaps. David Lee Roth or Vince Neil? Oh, wow. I'm going to say David

(52:21):
Lee Roth because he wore those assless chaps like no other ass could, I guess. And of the
two, he's the only one that could still pull off assless chaps. Let's be honest. Yeah.
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. All right, Bob. The category is deaf leopard. Nine arms or 10?
I'm going to go with 10. You liked him better with 10 arms. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough.

(52:51):
Stripper or Nelson? Striper. Live concerts, Bob. Think carefully. Drum solos or guitar
solos? I'm going to, my heart was with guitar solos. You son of a bitch. Oh my God. I'm
sorry. Well, you got some balls coming on here and saying that. Oh boy. Okay, Bob, here

(53:14):
we go. Too fast for love or shout at the devil? I'm going to say shout at the devil. All right.
And we're going to end with the probably most important topic of the evening. Who had better
hair? John Bon Jovi or David Coverdale? Oh, I'm going to say John Bon Jovi. All right.

(53:37):
Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. There you go, Bob. Yeah. All right. First ride the
lightning round. Well done. I passed. Well, the beautiful thing is, is, you know, we're
not that smart either. So there's no right or wrong answer. That's why it's my design.
But Bob, do you want to go back and go through the list and like explain any of your answers

(54:01):
or justify anything? Clarify? Well, first, let's, let's go back to the guitar solo versus
drum solo. I thought you might. No, that wasn't kind of ripped into me, but I just went with,
I turned my brain off and just went with that first. It's all right, man. I get it. I get
it. I remember, you know, just guitar solo is a little more than drum solos, but there

(54:25):
were some really great drum solos out there in those concerts, but you couldn't really,
in my opinion, beat the guitar solos that we've all seen and heard. That's fair. That's
fair. Fair. Yeah. And also to David Coverdale had great hair. I just, I went with Bon Jovi
because you know, it's just from what I remember. Yeah. I respect the Eddie Van Halen choice.

(54:52):
That is, I mean, as far as, you know, speaking of guitar solos, uh, I mean, Steve Vai is
just from another planet too, but yeah, I mean, Eddie, Eddie was the man. I mean, he
was definitely amongst like the best of the best of the best. Absolutely. And Steve Vai
incredible. I remember a couple of those solos. You're like, how is that even possible? But

(55:14):
Eddie just had eruptions in every other solo he did. It's amazing. Yeah. And such an innovator
and, you know, literally invented techniques that other guitar players do now. Like, you
know, like it's, it's second nature, but that shit. So yeah, exactly. And, and you went,
came out of the gate, taken by the crew over guns and roses. Respect. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

(55:39):
Motley crew is first in my life and in my heart, I guess as well. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.
And I think, uh, God, the one that would have got me was winger or trickster. I would probably
still be debating that. Yeah. I didn't know much about as much as winger, but you know,

(56:01):
it's going to haunt me tonight. I might be thinking about that at four in the morning.
Yeah. You're going to wake up at four in the morning and be like, Hmm, did I really nail
that one or not? I know, right? Oh, that's great. Great. And you like, you like 10 arm
deaf leopard over nine. Yeah. Old school. I don't know. I just, a lot changed back in

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the, you know, during that time. Stupid question. For a second though, I thought you meant fingers,
but like, all right. Oh man. Oh dude. Well that was fun, man. Nice job. That was fun.
Thank you for that. Yeah, dude. I mean, thanks for coming on, man. We, we, we're going to

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have to get you on for a full episode at some point, but yeah, for sure. Awesome. I've been
definitely looking forward to that. Hell yeah, dude. Yeah, you're right on. Yeah. Thanks
for having me on. I hope I, uh, it was as much entertaining as you guys are always entertaining
me. Oh man. Always dude. We'll keep rocking those nonstop Bob weekends. For sure. Oh shit.

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We'll be doing that shit. We'll be at their old folks home doing that shit. Oh my God.
Never going to end. Right. Never, never going to end. All right, Bob, stick around for a
second. We're going to do, we're going to wrap things up here with a couple of shout
outs. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, man. We got some new listeners, uh, tower Hamlets in the UK. Nice.
Abu Dhabi. All right. Oh, Panama city, Panama. Okay. Um, Lakewood Ranch, Florida. Cool. Round

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rock, Texas and Renton, Washington. So thank you everybody. I may have screwed that up.
That may be Panama city, Florida. Oh, well, you know, I didn't, I just say we're not that
smart dude. I, I don't know how to read map. Anyways. Um, yeah. So when you get a chance,

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that we're posting on YouTube. Uh, we love all that positive energy. So keep it coming.
All right. Well, once again, Bob Lovett, thank you so much for joining us. All right. Thanks
for having me guys. All right, man. We will talk to you soon. And, uh, yeah, this is the
greatest mix state podcast. My name is Eric and my name is Mac and we're out of here. We'll talk to you soon.