September 4, 2025 • 51 mins
Robin Pecknold's vision of indie folk perfection came to life in 2008 when Fleet Foxes released their self-titled debut album. What started as a basement recording project between high school friends evolved into a critically-acclaimed masterpiece that perfectly blends Beach Boys-inspired harmonies with pastoral themes and Renaissance aesthetics.
Sitting down to explore this influential album track by track reveals the genius behind what many critics consider one of the greatest debut albums ever recorded. The band's Norwegian-inspired folk creates an immersive experience through Pecknold's evocative lyrics about nature, mortality, and family connections. We're struck by how the production, despite being created on a shoestring budget with band members recording parts between regular jobs, achieves such a rich, atmospheric quality.
Beyond the recognized hits "White Winter Hymnal" and "Blue Ridge Mountains," the album offers numerous standout tracks that showcase the band's range. "Ragged Wood" captivates with its compelling bridge and perfect coda, while "Tiger Mountain Peasant Song" demonstrates their ability to create tension through minimal arrangements. Throughout the album, Casey Westcott's subtle keyboard work and Nicholas Peterson's drumming provide the perfect foundation for the intricate vocal arrangements that define the Fleet Foxes sound.
What makes this album special is its authenticity and restraint—songs deliver emotional impact through simplicity rather than complexity, avoiding unnecessary solos or filler. The band creates complete musical statements that transport listeners to wooded landscapes and natural settings. Whether you're new to Fleet Foxes or revisiting this classic, join us as we rank our favorite non-hits and celebrate a timeless record that continues to reveal new layers with each listen.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think you're in the wrong building.
This is the Fox Galleries.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Fox Galleries.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right, thank you for listening to the Greatest
Non-Hits.
I'm Chris, and playing the songRagged Wood from the Fleet
Foxes debut album, which is alsocalled Fleet Foxes, is my
co-host, tim.
Co-host Tim.
(00:58):
We want to thank you forlistening today.
This is a cool band.
They're not so well of the bandis what's this guy's name?
Yeah, robin Pecknold.
Yep, he, kirkland, washington.
Shout out to Costco.
(01:18):
He was originally from thatarea.
Had a high school buddy, skylerSkjelsetit skjelsit.
Maybe it's a soft j softj, yeah,soft j and uh.
They were uh.
They founded the band, uhwanted to lean into their
norwegian roots and uh made a,an album that's considered by
(01:44):
many to be one of the greatestdebut albums of all time.
I mean think of the pressure ofthat, but it's good stuff.
I'm not really a folk indiekind of a guy Maybe Tim is a
little bit more so but the moreyou hear it, the more it's
authentic.
It's real Great harmonies.
(02:05):
I can't stress that enough.
Obviously there are some otherpeople in the band Nicholas
Peterson on drums, caseyWestcott, keyboards, vocals,
craig Curran, bass, vocals aswell.
And well, I think that's thecurrent lineup right now.
(02:26):
Um, I think like for this, ormaybe not.
No, I think that these guyswere on this album as well.
I mean, I'm, I'm reading fromWikipedia, so I mean, I'm not.
By no means are we uh experts.
Uh of it has such a greatreputation amongst other artists
and because they've endured,it's worthy of just all the
(02:55):
praise in the world, even comingfrom a non-folky kind of guy
such as me.
But anyway, what we're going todo is listen to all the songs
and then rank our top three nonhits, as we always do, so it's
gonna be a lot of fun.
We've got a bunch of soundbanks uh kicking in when tim is.
Uh, when tim wraps up, we'regonna we're gonna talk a little
(03:17):
bit about more about it, hisbackground with the, with the
band, and uh, yeah, we'll dothat.
But just looking at the tracklist, they have one song that
kind of stands out in terms ofthe number of listens, which is
White Winter Hymnal.
I even think that Fish did acover of that song as well, so
(03:39):
that kind of it's kind of inTim's lane there.
So might hear a little bit moreabout that, maybe not, I don't
know, but nevertheless, theother song, what is it going to
be?
I think it's Blue RidgeMountains.
I believe is the other one thatis going to be considered a hit
(04:01):
.
So White Winter Hymnal and BlueRidge Mountains will be
excluded from our top threes,but the rest are open game.
I have no idea.
I think I have an idea of oneor maybe two of them that will
be on my list, but I've got tolisten to the deeper tracks,
like tracks 8, 9, 10.
(04:21):
Or 10 is Blue Ridge Mountains,so scratch that.
But 9, 8, 9, 10, or 10 is BlueRidge Mountain.
So scratch that.
But 9, 8, 9, or 11, I don'tknow.
I've got to listen, but we'regoing to yuck it up and Tim is
here.
Tim, great job on that, by theway.
Thank you.
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I'm out of the woods on that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So give me your thoughts.
Well, the sounds, the sounds ofthe woods and the sounds of
something rural, something A lotof nature.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
When your house was made out of sod, Mm-hmm.
You know that's what I'mgetting from this.
You know I'm getting a lot of.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Beach Boys, oh Beach Boys, oh Beach Boys.
And.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
You can have sod on the beach.
Put some sod on.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, I was going to say Beach Boys, like having a
baby with a Renaissance Festival, kind of a thing.
You know, like that kind of amix.
You can see, you know a littlebit of grass and a surfboard
there.
So I don't know Some grass Wellfor theirs.
I don't know some grass well it.
No, seriously, the, it's theharmonics that they get from the
beach boys.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I think here is yeah, no, definitely, definitely some
grass.
Yeah, the beach boys, for sure,I mean it's I.
I like that analogy, that'svery good yeah, thanks, it's,
it's, it's, it's floaty, it'sspringy, it's um.
I guess it deals with the otherside of things as well in a
(05:48):
agricultural kind of way.
You know, you need the soil tothe crops to die and make new
soil Well, you're the plant guy?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, something like that.
You know, yeah, we're allcarbon fiber yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Carbon fiber footprint Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, we're all carbon fiber.
Yep, yeah, carbon fiberfootprint.
Mm-hmm.
Okay yeah, a lot ofhorticulture to sift through for
this one.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Definitely some sifting.
Yeah, a lot of sifting.
We're going to sift yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What about the album?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
cover.
We're going to sift the compost.
That's album cover.
It's.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Renaissance, renaissance-y.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's very, it's very.
Bring out your dead.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, exactly, you know Well, I mean they got it
from like a specific painting.
I believe We'll have to lookthat up Like 15th century,
that's a good century,Netherlands, I don't know like
that, that kind of thing.
It's like a.
It's like a.
It's inspired from a famouspainting from the 1500s, so, but
(06:54):
that wasn't like an, an actualthis is they?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
they got this from something else by the end of
this, everybody's going tocompost.
We're going to cut out singleuse plastics.
We're going to wear burlapmaybe yes.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A lot of burlap.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I don't have one burlap robe shirt.
If your skin starts rashing,that's just you know.
It'll get better after that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You've got to fight through it.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Get past the initial rash of the burlap?
Yeah, and then you'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You got to fight through it Definitely, but yeah,
but everybody go out there anddo that, of course, yeah, so
okay, right, so we're ready togo.
Let's get into it All right.
Let's get into it All right.
We got sun.
The first one is called sun.
It rises, okay.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Red squirrel in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Red squirrel yeah, that's rich in symbolism.
Somehow, I think red squirrelsWith preparation, because they
hoard nuts and seeds, don't theyRight?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's how they do it .
They got wooden balls, man.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So yeah, red squirrel in the morning, red squirrel in
the evening, we got that goingfor us.
So yeah, red squirrel in themorning, red squirrel in the
evening.
So we got that going for usright now, very pastoral.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes, ethereal, rich, rich.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
This is the Beach Boys episode.
Oh yeah, okay.
Oh.
This piece is called I Lick myLaugh, pump Tim.
That was so immature.
This is a good song.
You've got to go there, but wasso immature.
(08:54):
This is a good song.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
You gotta go there, but that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's a bit of a mock piece, yeah this is a mock piece
(09:55):
, peace.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It's a cool guitar Bill.
The keys are following now, sunrising Dangling there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Golden and fair In the sky.
Okay, all right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Got to whisper for the rest of that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Shout out to those early risers out there.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
The Walkers.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Shout out to the Walkers definitely.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
This is the same fill in Ragged Wood.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh yeah, you're right , it could have been either of
those songs.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
They're recycling their own stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That was pretty good, though I could come up with a
song.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's a foreshadowing oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It's thematic.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There's a fine line between clever and stupid.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Who are?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
you following.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't know.
Oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, ohgosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh,
oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, ohgosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh,
oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Oh gosh, it fell.
Yeah, it was bleeding.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, that was made of red snow.
They used to make the snowyellow, but that's the way it
went.
It's primal.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's a prime color, you know yellow.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Swaddled in the pack.
I was swaddled in their coats.
Swaddled in their coats To keeptheir little heads From falling
in the snow.
Reminds me of when you were alittle kid.
I grew up in the snow.
Yeah, snow, shout out toMichaels.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The Michaels out there.
Sure, yeah, you made the cutfor this lyrically.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Shout out to the swaddlers out there.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, swaddle up.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Let's go home.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Get your tea.
Okay, just go home, swaddle upin your favorite blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I can see why this is a hit.
Did they do the whole song?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
but they did a cover of this?
I don't know.
Fishman is probably pissed.
He doesn't have a drum thisdeep in his reservoir.
There's like 45 fucking drums,but maybe not this drum that the
guy's hitting.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's the debut album.
This is on a shoestring budgetor something.
I heard they recorded this inthe guy's basement.
Hell yeah, the beginning partof it at least.
I love that.
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
These are little projects.
Yeah, the other guys had jobsand in between.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
and there you go, it's their little project.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, and like the other guys had jobs and they
were like in between they wereworking, they'd go and record
their parts.
It was something else.
Okay, this is Ragged Wood.
This is the one that Timcovered here.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Don't tell me you respect wood.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think it's important to respect wood In all
.
Hug a tree folks, Literal andfigurative.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Solve your ailments.
Hug a tree.
That works, I heard, yeah,seattle down, seattle down with
(14:05):
me here.
Let's go home Back on your ownnow.
Back and to the left, back andto the left.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
The world is alive now In an outside out.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I love outside.
You are outside a lot you gottaget outside.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
You're an outside cat again.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Well, I'm gonna spend inside time to go outside time.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Right, yeah, I, probably I should be outside
more.
I'm more of an indoor cat,tim's in the outdoor variety.
Shout out to the tennis playersout there.
Yes, shout out to Tim formoving up on the tennis ladder.
That's right, just hit yourshots.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
That's right.
Just hit your shots, that'sright.
Hit your shots, people.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, ball and play, and don't let Parks and
Recreation tell you what you canand can't do.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, you want to have your dog be the ball girl?
You can do that, that's right.
Big hitter, big hitter, bighitter.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Lawn, don't tell me you respect wood.
Shout out to our sponsors Allyou Coco drinkers out there.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Coco beans from the upper slopes of Mount Nicaragua.
Jonathan Evelyn, get on in here, Say hi to Michael.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I would love to be like one of these people in the
Fleet Foxes album cover, justdrinking a nice my cocoa right
now, wouldn't that be?
That seems just very lovely tome All this time I thought it
was an act.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Thank you, woody, you're looking pretty ragged out
there.
Here's the same riff, same riffas the first ending of what was
that song?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh, sun it Rises, sun it Rises.
Yeah, shout out to Craig Curranon the bass that nice little do
do, do do.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I mean, it was just like one thing it was well
placed, casey, casey Westcott,we see you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, adding those layered vocals right, yeah, you
can, I know you're back there.
You're back there.
You're doing the baritone ofRob to the left.
Yeah, tell me anything you want, I know you're back there.
You're doing the baritone ofRobert and to the left.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Tell me anything you want Secrets, secret time
Secrets.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, isn't that special.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
When you're playing Tim on the tennis ladder, you've
got to make sure you're goingTo the left and to the left.
That's the secret.
You've got to go back and tothe left.
He hits everything back there.
You're going back and to theleft.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
That's the secret.
You got to go back and to theleft.
Yeah, he hits everything back.
You're welcome.
Yeah, it's true, backhand,forehand.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I just go left Apparently, like the top 10 of
the ladder is like untouchable,but 11 through 20 are beatable.
Yeah, you can.
Yeah, definitely beatable, Ithink you can.
Yeah, definitely beatable.
I think Tim's kind of as highas 9.
He had a few poor matches butnow he's back.
(17:42):
At what?
20?
I bet in.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Seattle.
They have to have lots of raindates for tennis.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Hey you want to play tennis.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
There's got to be, a tennis scene.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Oh, let's play tennis .
Oh, it's raining again.
Yeah, ireland, not a big.
No, indoors maybe Got to playindoor.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, that's true.
I think Rod Laver Stadium isindoor, isn't it Like Australian
Open, maybe?
Go down there, shout out toAustralia.
Yeah and open.
Go down there, shout out toAustralia.
That was nice, alright Westcott, holding the organ down just
(18:26):
long enough.
Tiger Mountain, peasant Song,is this next one?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's very Baroque.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Hmm, it's like Brahms .
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Brahms would love this shit.
Who Brahms?
Oh, oh, yeah, I'm a Brahms guy,brahms would love this shit.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Who would?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Brahms oh yeah, I'm a Brahms guy.
Brahms or whatever.
Brahms, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I listen to a lot of classical, so this kind of ties
in.
Yeah, it's good, cocoa beansfrom the upper slopes of
mountain Nicaragua.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Like a bird.
How much more black could thisbe?
And the answer is none.
None.
Is that good or black?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
This is black.
This stripe on a tiger is black.
Oh, come, here we go.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm just.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's a sad song, man.
Oh, I'm getting a littleverklempt.
Oh, all this time I thought itwasn't true.
(20:19):
In the town one morning I wentStaggering through premonitions
of my death.
I don't see anybody that dearto me.
What about?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Jesse.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I'll be sad when Uncle Jesse dies.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He does not live me first.
How did I even get on thistopic?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Anything true on this topic.
I don't know what I have done.
I'm turning myself to a demon.
(21:08):
Well, isn't that special?
I don't know what I have done.
I'm turning myself to a demonSatan.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Shout out to the church lady.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
And the church goers out there.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
DJ.
It's the middle of the night,it's a nice of the night.
Ah, it's a nice echo.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Sam's done pretty well, like the way it was mixed
and everything Shout out to theproducers.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That basement has some good echo.
It's a good basement, muchbetter than the others.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, we couldn't do this in my basement.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, shout out to the basement dwellers out there.
Shout out to.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Basement dwellers.
Yes, shout out to Phil Eck.
Producer, engineer, mixer EckEck.
He's a club guy from Seattleback in the 90s.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I feel, feel naughty, feel naughty, come on, swing
baby.
You flatten them.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
There's a lot of don't give ins here.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
They're just getting into the don't give ins.
Yeah, they're just getting intothe donkey vins.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I think they're going to do something cool
musically, right.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I thought they were saying donkey for a while.
Donkey, donkey vin, donkey vin.
It's like donkey wine, donkeywine.
I love donkey wine.
Come on, sharon.
(23:27):
Sharon, have you met Jesse andMichael Evelyn?
Who else?
There was another name.
We're missing another name.
You're blanking, I'm blanking.
Typical, he always forgetsnames.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm just into all the lay-me-downs right now.
I was just thinking about that.
I'm sorry.
Now feel, feel there's a lot ofrepetitiveness.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, it's kind of a filler song.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It feels like it Hippies out around me Him, mammy
hippies.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
The problemmy, mammy hippies the problem is, if you
see one hippie, there's probablya whole lot more next to you.
That's the best they definitelydon't have permission.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
this is a good little yeah, what's?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
understated is the keyboards in this Subtle lines
intertwining it's kind of like aDr Dog.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
You know Dr Dog.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
No, what's?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Dr Dog.
Dr Dog is like an indie band.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I thought it was like an adult film star or something
.
No, but yeah, you're right,it's an indie from Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
They're sort of like this.
They have a simple sort of rockstyle.
Yeah, it's an interesting genre.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, but this is built off of again the Beach
Boys and other 70s.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It does, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Burt Bacharach.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah, oh damn, I'm pulling some shit out.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You are, you know, I like the way that ended that
last song All right, and I likethe way you ended that as well.
Your comment, yeah, veryback-rocked.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, I'm a fan, he's the original panty-dropper I
did not.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, when you think about it that way, I didn't
understand.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oh, I've heard.
Yeah, okay, that dot yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, okay, we'll do them another day Maybe.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Just know that he's the best one.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
See your rugged hands and a silver knife.
Twenty dollars in your handMakes you hold so tight All the
evidence of your vacant life.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
There's a lot going on here.
All the lyrics are really vagueand kind of general.
Could mean a lot of differentthings, but under an aesthetic
and theme Nature, nature, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
You can apply it to your regular life?
Yeah, you can do that.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, do it, do it, that's right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Okay, do it, do.
What is she doing?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I never know what she's doing back there.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Shout out to Chaz Ryan-Cole.
Okay, shout out to ChazRyan-Cole.
Shout out to Chaz Ryan-Cole.
Shout out to.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Jay.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Okay, here we go there you go Psychic talent.
Hello, very psychedelic.
(28:29):
Oh yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
This is he doesn't know, why keys, keys, okay, keys
, or Casey Westcott I mentionthat guy's name a lot.
He doesn't even have aWikipedia page.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
How about?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, scott Scott you just don't get it, do you.
You just don't get it.
You just don't get it, do youyou just don't get it you just
don't get it.
Here's a song with like nowords, so it's called heart,
heart them or heard themstirring, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, suck like a fox.
(29:18):
Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
So we just gotta lean into theharmonics here Just drink it in
the deep drums.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yes, yes, harmonics and deep drums.
I would love to see them.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
If they play at red fest, take all my money, red
fest yeah, there should be likea 1 million person renaissance
festival, like kind of like awoodstock.
Should be like a one millionperson Renaissance Festival,
kind of like a Woodstock, butmore like a Renaissance Festival
theme.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Bread, more of the mac and cheese balls, sia, I
know just a collection.
Fire up the Mountain Dew andthe turkey leg and the turkey
leg, turkey leg, the turkey leg.
Now eat apple dumpling, icecream and salted spiced nuts.
(30:24):
It's good, yeah, right, best.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, I just can't stop.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Now that you said spiced nuts, I just can't stop
thinking about how do you dothese balls?
I know, it's just, he's gotthem.
He's got them.
That's how they do it, he's gotwooden balls man.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, kunga, kunga, kunga.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Kunga, kunga, kunga, kunga, gunga, gunga, gunga,
lagunga, gunga galunga.
Got that going for him.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Which is next.
I don't know if they've everthought of that, though, just
(31:24):
like having a big RenaissanceFestival concert and have Fleet
Foxes.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
They already sell out with the crappy bands they have
.
So that's true.
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think it'd work.
So they're still around,they're still touring.
I hope so.
Flea Foxes, I don't know.
Anyway, that was alright, thatwas better than the first time I
heard it.
That was good.
So your Protectors just namedthis one.
So wait, who's the drummer onthis?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Anyway, that was better than the first time I
heard it, so your ProtectorsJust named this one.
Wait, who's the drummer on this?
The drummer is Flash of GreenLight.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, and that was it no seriously, she left a week
to go your protector's cominghome.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Keep your secrets with you, girl, safe from the
outside.
You walk along the stream.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I like the tambourine too, it's.
Nicholas Peterson is thedrummer, gwen Owen is the
flutist here.
Shout out to.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Gwen, too late to die beside me, baby, on the morning
that you came.
Would you wait for me?
This really bums me out.
It bums me out Just twoswinging boxes Too late to die
(33:10):
beside me, baby, on the morningthat you came.
Would you wait for me?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
The other one would wait for me Anyhow, if you think
that I'm going to sit aroundand wait for you forget it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's pretty cold, sad Linda.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
That's cold.
It's kind of cold.
It's cold.
Sad Linda, that's cold.
It's kind of cold.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's cold, Phoebe Satan.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
A lot of religious themes in there too.
Good and evil Dying.
I blame myself.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Good and evil, I blame myself.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I like this little guitar picking.
It feels like a travel song.
Fire up thy chariot, let's goWatch out for the robbers and
barons and carpetbaggers,rightons and carpetbaggers,
right, these damn carpetbaggers.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Scallywags Easy on the scallywags.
Sorry, you know they'rescallywags, not by choice.
Damn, you're born intoscallywagism.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Scallywags, that's good.
I was born a scallywag-ism,scallywag-ism, that's good.
I was born a scallywag and I'lldie one.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Tell your father I was good.
I was good, I was a scallywagDead yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It's too late to die beside me.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I need another scallywag to die beside me.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay, do it.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh, all this time, I thought it wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Back and to the left.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But none of the other mothers are available to go.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's very beautiful.
Tell your mother not to wait.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I think we need a palate cleanser, just something
along these lines.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I'll wait just a minute, there we go.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
That was what I was looking for, thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Waiting for a mission .
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And a little bit of a .
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Middle of the night, fly your way down Like a bird
bit of a.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, this is for this is hardcore folk.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Cornucopias are so folky Cornucopias are so folky
yes.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Fleecy diamonds.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Like a bird, just let me die Inside the broken ovals
of your heart.
Really big eyes If you gave ityour best.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Try this track I hum in verse.
Sing to me.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
There's a lot of really good songs out here.
It's starting to hit me.
You've got to pick a top three,the good qualities to all these
songs.
It's tough Just questioning thewhole thing that we're doing
(37:53):
here.
Man, I blame myself.
I do Just like change the key,like right in the middle of the.
(38:16):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, he's got a good voice too.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Ah, that was badass.
Yeah, I haven't eaten meat, Idon't know.
(39:08):
Probably like eight months,eight or no, even longer than
maybe about a year and a half,like I mean, if I'm including
fish.
But I'm like and I want aturkey leg right now.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, it's turkey leg time.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, it's just putting me in the mood.
This is Blue Ridge Mountainside I'm sorry, blue Ridge
Mountains, and it's a hit.
So to go by Sounds like church.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
My brother, where do you intend to go tonight?
I heard that you missed yourconnecting flight To the Blue
Ridge Mountain Over nearTennessee.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Brothers, don't shake hands.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Brothers, gotta hug.
You're welcome with me anytimeyou like.
Let's drive to the countryside,Leave behind some green-eyed
lookalikes so no one getsworried.
No, Get your butt back here,Thelma now.
God damn it.
(40:49):
No one gets worried no, getback here.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
You can't just leave something.
Green eyed lookalikes.
What the hell does that mean?
I don't know.
Sean getting careless, who'sSean?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I know there's been no character development here.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Is he a clone?
Is he a?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
blue.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Green eyed.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
He's not even a band member.
Yeah, he sees the green eye,whatever.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Flash of green light and that was it.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Oh brother, oh brother.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
That's him now.
Can somebody dry this dog off?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I know, Don't tell me you respect wood and the home
got snowed in Rolling on theriver.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
that's where she came from, and the yellow moon
glowed bright Till the morninglight.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Light of my life.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Terrible in my child, even if you don't like me Say
it.
Darling Light of my life Riverin the forest With a shiver in
darkness.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
We're in a shack in the woods.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
That was a fail.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
And I'm prairie dogging and I'm gonna blow by.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Till the morning light Terrible in my child, even
if you don't mind, no, a basson that Mm-hmm.
Even if you don't mind, no.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Bass on that.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Subtle lines intertwining Just saying let it
out, give it some air, man Playwith it, that's right.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Take a jam, extemporaneous Jam on that.
Four more minutes.
That song needed like four,four.
Yeah, that's a great song, dangit.
Just end it there.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
This is Oliver James.
We got to give this one achance.
It's more brother stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's by the river, by the river bridge, a cradle
floating beside me In the widestwater, on the bank, against the
stone.
You will lift his body from theshore and bring him home.
(44:20):
Oliver James washed in the rainno longer, no longer.
Oliver James Washed in the rainno longer.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I want to give a shout out to the fans of this
song.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oliver James On the kitchen table that your
grandfather did make.
Grandfather, yes, it's a goodtable.
A lot of family, family andfriends, Family, friends death.
(45:16):
Remembering fondly Oliver James,washed in the rain, no longer.
Oliver James, washed in therain, no longer.
(45:37):
Walk with me down the beach andthrough the valley floor.
Love for the one you no more.
Love for the one you no more.
(46:12):
For the one you no more.
Back we go to your brother'shouse and, dear my dear, the
sound of ancient voices Ringingsoft upon your ear.
Oliver James, washed in therain, no longer.
(46:40):
Oliver James, washed in therain, no longer.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
All right, yeah, that's it, man.
I mean, that's the no longerLike it's, and that's a good way
to end it, I guess.
So it's it's.
That was a great song.
Yes, very nice so, but you knowthere's a lot of great songs on
here.
I can see how it got itsreputation after listening to
all that, so we should probablyget into get right into it.
(47:27):
What do you think in terms ofyour top three?
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I'm going to go number three, meadowlarks.
That was a great song.
Yeah, yeah going meadowlarks,just good, good choice.
The flight, the nature, it'sgood reprieve from, from some of
their other bangers.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Right, you know I'm going to, you know I'm going to
say yeah, I'm going to say tiger, mountain peasant song is my
number three.
Very good, it's a yeah, I'mgoing to go to the dark side on
(48:15):
this one.
These, these, uh, these songsabout death, yeah, are you know?
They fit with the theme andthat that was.
It was just very melodic and Ilike the fact that these songs
are like straight into the point.
They're not too long, right,they're just.
They hit you and they don't putin unnecessary fill fill or
(48:36):
guitar solo stuff you know, thisis like this is this is very
unique and it's raw.
It's a good album yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Uh, they're not beating around the bush, they're
not, yeah, it is, it's a bushthat that grandmother planted,
like thousands of centuries ago,hey um okay, yeah, we can't get
to your number two soon enough.
Um, I'm going to go.
Sun it rises, the fourshadowing riff.
(49:04):
Uh, could be a foreshadowing ofmy number.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Okay, oh, wow, okay, that's your number two.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah, just right off the bat.
Good song it in.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
I'm going to go Metal Arcs number two.
I liked that song.
It was good, very good, melodic.
I like the theme of the birds,that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
That was very nice Birds are great Big bird fans
here.
Okay, you know.
Honestly, honorable mention toQuiet Houses, I should say Okay,
yeah, that finished strong.
Yeah, it did finish strong, itwould it was repetitive.
My my list is a littlerepetitive but a great ending.
(49:59):
Um, but my number one is raggedwood.
Yeah, saw that coming kudosyeah kudos to that.
Just had a great bridge.
It had the really thought outum sections and the coda yep
(50:19):
okay all right, send it back tothe coda, that's right yeah,
okay, you know I heard them.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
stirring was pretty good, you like that was the one
that didn't have any of thewords to it, that was yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
And Oliver.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
James is in my head now because we ended with that
and it was just so like solemnand it was like a also enjoyed.
Yeah, it was also enjoyed, youknow.
But I'm going to have to gowith you.
Ragged wood is like it's thetops of the non-hits, you know,
(50:58):
substantially.
Um, it was a longer they justlike yeah the whole thing, man,
everything that you said andmore.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
It was just a great tune and uh but the hits on this
white winter hymnal and blueridge mountains really piqued my
interest first in this album tobegin with.
So right, shout out to the hitson this yeah, shout out to the
hits that might not be hits foreverybody, because this band is
more, not always, mainstream.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Well, yeah, norwegian full indie folk is not, you
know it's, it's just notcommercially palatable, but um,
there's no correlation betweenpopularity and quality, and uh,
which is that's the reason whywe do the show.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
We're never spoken.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
That's the purpose of the show is to.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
That was your big brain, brad.
Comment of the night.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
All right.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
So we're going to finish strong yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
We're tying those.
Yeah, tie a bow in it.
Simple lines, simple lines,intertwining.
I think you're in the wrong building.
This is the Fox Galleries.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Fox Galleries.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right, thank you for listening to the Greatest
Non-Hits.
I'm Chris, and playing the songRagged Wood from the Fleet
Foxes debut album, which is alsocalled Fleet Foxes, is my
co-host, tim.
Co-host Tim.
(00:58):
We want to thank you forlistening today.
This is a cool band.
They're not so well of the bandis what's this guy's name?
Yeah, robin Pecknold.
Yep, he, kirkland, washington.
Shout out to Costco.
(01:18):
He was originally from thatarea.
Had a high school buddy, skylerSkjelsetit skjelsit.
Maybe it's a soft j softj, yeah,soft j and uh.
They were uh.
They founded the band, uhwanted to lean into their
norwegian roots and uh made a,an album that's considered by
(01:44):
many to be one of the greatestdebut albums of all time.
I mean think of the pressure ofthat, but it's good stuff.
I'm not really a folk indiekind of a guy Maybe Tim is a
little bit more so but the moreyou hear it, the more it's
authentic.
It's real Great harmonies.
(02:05):
I can't stress that enough.
Obviously there are some otherpeople in the band Nicholas
Peterson on drums, caseyWestcott, keyboards, vocals,
craig Curran, bass, vocals aswell.
And well, I think that's thecurrent lineup right now.
(02:26):
Um, I think like for this, ormaybe not.
No, I think that these guyswere on this album as well.
I mean, I'm, I'm reading fromWikipedia, so I mean, I'm not.
By no means are we uh experts.
Uh of it has such a greatreputation amongst other artists
and because they've endured,it's worthy of just all the
(02:55):
praise in the world, even comingfrom a non-folky kind of guy
such as me.
But anyway, what we're going todo is listen to all the songs
and then rank our top three nonhits, as we always do, so it's
gonna be a lot of fun.
We've got a bunch of soundbanks uh kicking in when tim is.
Uh, when tim wraps up, we'regonna we're gonna talk a little
(03:17):
bit about more about it, hisbackground with the, with the
band, and uh, yeah, we'll dothat.
But just looking at the tracklist, they have one song that
kind of stands out in terms ofthe number of listens, which is
White Winter Hymnal.
I even think that Fish did acover of that song as well, so
(03:39):
that kind of it's kind of inTim's lane there.
So might hear a little bit moreabout that, maybe not, I don't
know, but nevertheless, theother song, what is it going to
be?
I think it's Blue RidgeMountains.
I believe is the other one thatis going to be considered a hit
(04:01):
.
So White Winter Hymnal and BlueRidge Mountains will be
excluded from our top threes,but the rest are open game.
I have no idea.
I think I have an idea of oneor maybe two of them that will
be on my list, but I've got tolisten to the deeper tracks,
like tracks 8, 9, 10.
(04:21):
Or 10 is Blue Ridge Mountains,so scratch that.
But 9, 8, 9, 10, or 10 is BlueRidge Mountain.
So scratch that.
But 9, 8, 9, or 11, I don'tknow.
I've got to listen, but we'regoing to yuck it up and Tim is
here.
Tim, great job on that, by theway.
Thank you.
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I'm out of the woods on that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So give me your thoughts.
Well, the sounds, the sounds ofthe woods and the sounds of
something rural, something A lotof nature.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
When your house was made out of sod, Mm-hmm.
You know that's what I'mgetting from this.
You know I'm getting a lot of.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Beach Boys, oh Beach Boys, oh Beach Boys.
And.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
You can have sod on the beach.
Put some sod on.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well, I was going to say Beach Boys, like having a
baby with a Renaissance Festival, kind of a thing.
You know, like that kind of amix.
You can see, you know a littlebit of grass and a surfboard
there.
So I don't know Some grass Wellfor theirs.
I don't know some grass well it.
No, seriously, the, it's theharmonics that they get from the
beach boys.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I think here is yeah, no, definitely, definitely some
grass.
Yeah, the beach boys, for sure,I mean it's I.
I like that analogy, that'svery good yeah, thanks, it's,
it's, it's, it's floaty, it'sspringy, it's um.
I guess it deals with the otherside of things as well in a
(05:48):
agricultural kind of way.
You know, you need the soil tothe crops to die and make new
soil Well, you're the plant guy?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, something like that.
You know, yeah, we're allcarbon fiber yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Carbon fiber footprint Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, we're all carbon fiber.
Yep, yeah, carbon fiberfootprint.
Mm-hmm.
Okay yeah, a lot ofhorticulture to sift through for
this one.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Definitely some sifting.
Yeah, a lot of sifting.
We're going to sift yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What about the album?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
cover.
We're going to sift the compost.
That's album cover.
It's.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Renaissance, renaissance-y.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's very, it's very.
Bring out your dead.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, exactly, you know Well, I mean they got it
from like a specific painting.
I believe We'll have to lookthat up Like 15th century,
that's a good century,Netherlands, I don't know like
that, that kind of thing.
It's like a.
It's like a.
It's inspired from a famouspainting from the 1500s, so, but
(06:54):
that wasn't like an, an actualthis is they?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
they got this from something else by the end of
this, everybody's going tocompost.
We're going to cut out singleuse plastics.
We're going to wear burlapmaybe yes.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A lot of burlap.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I don't have one burlap robe shirt.
If your skin starts rashing,that's just you know.
It'll get better after that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You've got to fight through it.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Get past the initial rash of the burlap?
Yeah, and then you'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You got to fight through it Definitely, but yeah,
but everybody go out there anddo that, of course, yeah, so
okay, right, so we're ready togo.
Let's get into it All right.
Let's get into it All right.
We got sun.
The first one is called sun.
It rises, okay.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Red squirrel in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Red squirrel yeah, that's rich in symbolism.
Somehow, I think red squirrelsWith preparation, because they
hoard nuts and seeds, don't theyRight?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's how they do it .
They got wooden balls, man.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So yeah, red squirrel in the morning, red squirrel in
the evening, we got that goingfor us.
So yeah, red squirrel in themorning, red squirrel in the
evening.
So we got that going for usright now, very pastoral.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes, ethereal, rich, rich.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
This is the Beach Boys episode.
Oh yeah, okay.
Oh.
This piece is called I Lick myLaugh, pump Tim.
That was so immature.
This is a good song.
You've got to go there, but wasso immature.
(08:54):
This is a good song.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
You gotta go there, but that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's a bit of a mock piece, yeah this is a mock piece
(09:55):
, peace.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It's a cool guitar Bill.
The keys are following now, sunrising Dangling there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Golden and fair In the sky.
Okay, all right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Got to whisper for the rest of that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Shout out to those early risers out there.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
The Walkers.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Shout out to the Walkers definitely.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
This is the same fill in Ragged Wood.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh yeah, you're right , it could have been either of
those songs.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
They're recycling their own stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That was pretty good, though I could come up with a
song.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's a foreshadowing oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It's thematic.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There's a fine line between clever and stupid.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Who are?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
you following.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't know.
Oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, ohgosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh,
oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, ohgosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh,
oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Oh gosh, it fell.
Yeah, it was bleeding.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, that was made of red snow.
They used to make the snowyellow, but that's the way it
went.
It's primal.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's a prime color, you know yellow.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Swaddled in the pack.
I was swaddled in their coats.
Swaddled in their coats To keeptheir little heads From falling
in the snow.
Reminds me of when you were alittle kid.
I grew up in the snow.
Yeah, snow, shout out toMichaels.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The Michaels out there.
Sure, yeah, you made the cutfor this lyrically.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Shout out to the swaddlers out there.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, swaddle up.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Let's go home.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Get your tea.
Okay, just go home, swaddle upin your favorite blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I can see why this is a hit.
Did they do the whole song?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
but they did a cover of this?
I don't know.
Fishman is probably pissed.
He doesn't have a drum thisdeep in his reservoir.
There's like 45 fucking drums,but maybe not this drum that the
guy's hitting.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's the debut album.
This is on a shoestring budgetor something.
I heard they recorded this inthe guy's basement.
Hell yeah, the beginning partof it at least.
I love that.
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
These are little projects.
Yeah, the other guys had jobsand in between.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
and there you go, it's their little project.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, and like the other guys had jobs and they
were like in between they wereworking, they'd go and record
their parts.
It was something else.
Okay, this is Ragged Wood.
This is the one that Timcovered here.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Don't tell me you respect wood.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think it's important to respect wood In all
.
Hug a tree folks, Literal andfigurative.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Solve your ailments.
Hug a tree.
That works, I heard, yeah,seattle down, seattle down with
(14:05):
me here.
Let's go home Back on your ownnow.
Back and to the left, back andto the left.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
The world is alive now In an outside out.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I love outside.
You are outside a lot you gottaget outside.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
You're an outside cat again.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Well, I'm gonna spend inside time to go outside time.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Right, yeah, I, probably I should be outside
more.
I'm more of an indoor cat,tim's in the outdoor variety.
Shout out to the tennis playersout there.
Yes, shout out to Tim formoving up on the tennis ladder.
That's right, just hit yourshots.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
That's right.
Just hit your shots, that'sright.
Hit your shots, people.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, ball and play, and don't let Parks and
Recreation tell you what you canand can't do.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, you want to have your dog be the ball girl?
You can do that, that's right.
Big hitter, big hitter, bighitter.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Lawn, don't tell me you respect wood.
Shout out to our sponsors Allyou Coco drinkers out there.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Coco beans from the upper slopes of Mount Nicaragua.
Jonathan Evelyn, get on in here, Say hi to Michael.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I would love to be like one of these people in the
Fleet Foxes album cover, justdrinking a nice my cocoa right
now, wouldn't that be?
That seems just very lovely tome All this time I thought it
was an act.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Thank you, woody, you're looking pretty ragged out
there.
Here's the same riff, same riffas the first ending of what was
that song?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Oh, sun it Rises, sun it Rises.
Yeah, shout out to Craig Curranon the bass that nice little do
do, do do.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I mean, it was just like one thing it was well
placed, casey, casey Westcott,we see you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, adding those layered vocals right, yeah, you
can, I know you're back there.
You're back there.
You're doing the baritone ofRob to the left.
Yeah, tell me anything you want, I know you're back there.
You're doing the baritone ofRobert and to the left.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Tell me anything you want Secrets, secret time
Secrets.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, isn't that special.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
When you're playing Tim on the tennis ladder, you've
got to make sure you're goingTo the left and to the left.
That's the secret.
You've got to go back and tothe left.
He hits everything back there.
You're going back and to theleft.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
That's the secret.
You got to go back and to theleft.
Yeah, he hits everything back.
You're welcome.
Yeah, it's true, backhand,forehand.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I just go left Apparently, like the top 10 of
the ladder is like untouchable,but 11 through 20 are beatable.
Yeah, you can.
Yeah, definitely beatable, Ithink you can.
Yeah, definitely beatable.
I think Tim's kind of as highas 9.
He had a few poor matches butnow he's back.
(17:42):
At what?
20?
I bet in.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Seattle.
They have to have lots of raindates for tennis.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Hey you want to play tennis.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
There's got to be, a tennis scene.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Oh, let's play tennis .
Oh, it's raining again.
Yeah, ireland, not a big.
No, indoors maybe Got to playindoor.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, that's true.
I think Rod Laver Stadium isindoor, isn't it Like Australian
Open, maybe?
Go down there, shout out toAustralia.
Yeah and open.
Go down there, shout out toAustralia.
That was nice, alright Westcott, holding the organ down just
(18:26):
long enough.
Tiger Mountain, peasant Song,is this next one?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It's very Baroque.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Hmm, it's like Brahms .
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Brahms would love this shit.
Who Brahms?
Oh, oh, yeah, I'm a Brahms guy,brahms would love this shit.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Who would?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Brahms oh yeah, I'm a Brahms guy.
Brahms or whatever.
Brahms, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I listen to a lot of classical, so this kind of ties
in.
Yeah, it's good, cocoa beansfrom the upper slopes of
mountain Nicaragua.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Like a bird.
How much more black could thisbe?
And the answer is none.
None.
Is that good or black?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
This is black.
This stripe on a tiger is black.
Oh, come, here we go.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm just.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It's a sad song, man.
Oh, I'm getting a littleverklempt.
Oh, all this time I thought itwasn't true.
(20:19):
In the town one morning I wentStaggering through premonitions
of my death.
I don't see anybody that dearto me.
What about?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Jesse.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I'll be sad when Uncle Jesse dies.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
He does not live me first.
How did I even get on thistopic?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Anything true on this topic.
I don't know what I have done.
I'm turning myself to a demon.
(21:08):
Well, isn't that special?
I don't know what I have done.
I'm turning myself to a demonSatan.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Shout out to the church lady.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
And the church goers out there.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
DJ.
It's the middle of the night,it's a nice of the night.
Ah, it's a nice echo.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Sam's done pretty well, like the way it was mixed
and everything Shout out to theproducers.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That basement has some good echo.
It's a good basement, muchbetter than the others.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, we couldn't do this in my basement.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, shout out to the basement dwellers out there.
Shout out to.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Basement dwellers.
Yes, shout out to Phil Eck.
Producer, engineer, mixer EckEck.
He's a club guy from Seattleback in the 90s.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I feel, feel naughty, feel naughty, come on, swing
baby.
You flatten them.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
There's a lot of don't give ins here.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
They're just getting into the don't give ins.
Yeah, they're just getting intothe donkey vins.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I think they're going to do something cool
musically, right.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I thought they were saying donkey for a while.
Donkey, donkey vin, donkey vin.
It's like donkey wine, donkeywine.
I love donkey wine.
Come on, sharon.
(23:27):
Sharon, have you met Jesse andMichael Evelyn?
Who else?
There was another name.
We're missing another name.
You're blanking, I'm blanking.
Typical, he always forgetsnames.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm just into all the lay-me-downs right now.
I was just thinking about that.
I'm sorry.
Now feel, feel there's a lot ofrepetitiveness.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, it's kind of a filler song.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It feels like it Hippies out around me Him, mammy
hippies.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
The problemmy, mammy hippies the problem is, if you
see one hippie, there's probablya whole lot more next to you.
That's the best they definitelydon't have permission.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
this is a good little yeah, what's?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
understated is the keyboards in this Subtle lines
intertwining it's kind of like aDr Dog.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
You know Dr Dog.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
No, what's?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Dr Dog.
Dr Dog is like an indie band.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I thought it was like an adult film star or something
.
No, but yeah, you're right,it's an indie from Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
They're sort of like this.
They have a simple sort of rockstyle.
Yeah, it's an interesting genre.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, but this is built off of again the Beach
Boys and other 70s.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It does, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Burt Bacharach.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah, oh damn, I'm pulling some shit out.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You are, you know, I like the way that ended that
last song All right, and I likethe way you ended that as well.
Your comment, yeah, veryback-rocked.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, I'm a fan, he's the original panty-dropper I
did not.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, when you think about it that way, I didn't
understand.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oh, I've heard.
Yeah, okay, that dot yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, okay, we'll do them another day Maybe.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Just know that he's the best one.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
See your rugged hands and a silver knife.
Twenty dollars in your handMakes you hold so tight All the
evidence of your vacant life.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
There's a lot going on here.
All the lyrics are really vagueand kind of general.
Could mean a lot of differentthings, but under an aesthetic
and theme Nature, nature, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
You can apply it to your regular life?
Yeah, you can do that.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, do it, do it, that's right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Okay, do it, do.
What is she doing?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I never know what she's doing back there.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Shout out to Chaz Ryan-Cole.
Okay, shout out to ChazRyan-Cole.
Shout out to Chaz Ryan-Cole.
Shout out to.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Jay.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Okay, here we go there you go Psychic talent.
Hello, very psychedelic.
(28:29):
Oh yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
This is he doesn't know, why keys, keys, okay, keys
, or Casey Westcott I mentionthat guy's name a lot.
He doesn't even have aWikipedia page.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
How about?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, scott Scott you just don't get it, do you.
You just don't get it.
You just don't get it, do youyou just don't get it you just
don't get it.
Here's a song with like nowords, so it's called heart,
heart them or heard themstirring, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, suck like a fox.
(29:18):
Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
So we just gotta lean into theharmonics here Just drink it in
the deep drums.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yes, yes, harmonics and deep drums.
I would love to see them.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
If they play at red fest, take all my money, red
fest yeah, there should be likea 1 million person renaissance
festival, like kind of like awoodstock.
Should be like a one millionperson Renaissance Festival,
kind of like a Woodstock, butmore like a Renaissance Festival
theme.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Bread, more of the mac and cheese balls, sia, I
know just a collection.
Fire up the Mountain Dew andthe turkey leg and the turkey
leg, turkey leg, the turkey leg.
Now eat apple dumpling, icecream and salted spiced nuts.
(30:24):
It's good, yeah, right, best.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, I just can't stop.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Now that you said spiced nuts, I just can't stop
thinking about how do you dothese balls?
I know, it's just, he's gotthem.
He's got them.
That's how they do it, he's gotwooden balls man.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, kunga, kunga, kunga.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Kunga, kunga, kunga, kunga, gunga, gunga, gunga,
lagunga, gunga galunga.
Got that going for him.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Which is next.
I don't know if they've everthought of that, though, just
(31:24):
like having a big RenaissanceFestival concert and have Fleet
Foxes.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
They already sell out with the crappy bands they have
.
So that's true.
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think it'd work.
So they're still around,they're still touring.
I hope so.
Flea Foxes, I don't know.
Anyway, that was alright, thatwas better than the first time I
heard it.
That was good.
So your Protectors just namedthis one.
So wait, who's the drummer onthis?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Anyway, that was better than the first time I
heard it, so your ProtectorsJust named this one.
Wait, who's the drummer on this?
The drummer is Flash of GreenLight.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, and that was it no seriously, she left a week
to go your protector's cominghome.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Keep your secrets with you, girl, safe from the
outside.
You walk along the stream.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I like the tambourine too, it's.
Nicholas Peterson is thedrummer, gwen Owen is the
flutist here.
Shout out to.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Gwen, too late to die beside me, baby, on the morning
that you came.
Would you wait for me?
This really bums me out.
It bums me out Just twoswinging boxes Too late to die
(33:10):
beside me, baby, on the morningthat you came.
Would you wait for me?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
The other one would wait for me Anyhow, if you think
that I'm going to sit aroundand wait for you forget it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's pretty cold, sad Linda.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
That's cold.
It's kind of cold.
It's cold.
Sad Linda, that's cold.
It's kind of cold.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's cold, Phoebe Satan.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
A lot of religious themes in there too.
Good and evil Dying.
I blame myself.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Good and evil, I blame myself.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I like this little guitar picking.
It feels like a travel song.
Fire up thy chariot, let's goWatch out for the robbers and
barons and carpetbaggers,rightons and carpetbaggers,
right, these damn carpetbaggers.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Scallywags Easy on the scallywags.
Sorry, you know they'rescallywags, not by choice.
Damn, you're born intoscallywagism.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Scallywags, that's good.
I was born a scallywag-ism,scallywag-ism, that's good.
I was born a scallywag and I'lldie one.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Tell your father I was good.
I was good, I was a scallywagDead yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It's too late to die beside me.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I need another scallywag to die beside me.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay, do it.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh, all this time, I thought it wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Back and to the left.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But none of the other mothers are available to go.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's very beautiful.
Tell your mother not to wait.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I think we need a palate cleanser, just something
along these lines.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I'll wait just a minute, there we go.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
That was what I was looking for, thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Waiting for a mission .
Speaker 4 (36:08):
And a little bit of a .
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Middle of the night, fly your way down Like a bird
bit of a.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, this is for this is hardcore folk.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Cornucopias are so folky Cornucopias are so folky
yes.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Fleecy diamonds.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Like a bird, just let me die Inside the broken ovals
of your heart.
Really big eyes If you gave ityour best.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Try this track I hum in verse.
Sing to me.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
There's a lot of really good songs out here.
It's starting to hit me.
You've got to pick a top three,the good qualities to all these
songs.
It's tough Just questioning thewhole thing that we're doing
(37:53):
here.
Man, I blame myself.
I do Just like change the key,like right in the middle of the.
(38:16):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, he's got a good voice too.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Ah, that was badass.
Yeah, I haven't eaten meat, Idon't know.
(39:08):
Probably like eight months,eight or no, even longer than
maybe about a year and a half,like I mean, if I'm including
fish.
But I'm like and I want aturkey leg right now.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, it's turkey leg time.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, it's just putting me in the mood.
This is Blue Ridge Mountainside I'm sorry, blue Ridge
Mountains, and it's a hit.
So to go by Sounds like church.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
My brother, where do you intend to go tonight?
I heard that you missed yourconnecting flight To the Blue
Ridge Mountain Over nearTennessee.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Brothers, don't shake hands.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Brothers, gotta hug.
You're welcome with me anytimeyou like.
Let's drive to the countryside,Leave behind some green-eyed
lookalikes so no one getsworried.
No, Get your butt back here,Thelma now.
God damn it.
(40:49):
No one gets worried no, getback here.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
You can't just leave something.
Green eyed lookalikes.
What the hell does that mean?
I don't know.
Sean getting careless, who'sSean?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I know there's been no character development here.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Is he a clone?
Is he a?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
blue.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Green eyed.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
He's not even a band member.
Yeah, he sees the green eye,whatever.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Flash of green light and that was it.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Oh brother, oh brother.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
That's him now.
Can somebody dry this dog off?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I know, Don't tell me you respect wood and the home
got snowed in Rolling on theriver.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
that's where she came from, and the yellow moon
glowed bright Till the morninglight.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Light of my life.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Terrible in my child, even if you don't like me Say
it.
Darling Light of my life Riverin the forest With a shiver in
darkness.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
We're in a shack in the woods.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
That was a fail.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
And I'm prairie dogging and I'm gonna blow by.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Till the morning light Terrible in my child, even
if you don't mind, no, a basson that Mm-hmm.
Even if you don't mind, no.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Bass on that.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Subtle lines intertwining Just saying let it
out, give it some air, man Playwith it, that's right.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Take a jam, extemporaneous Jam on that.
Four more minutes.
That song needed like four,four.
Yeah, that's a great song, dangit.
Just end it there.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
This is Oliver James.
We got to give this one achance.
It's more brother stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
It's by the river, by the river bridge, a cradle
floating beside me In the widestwater, on the bank, against the
stone.
You will lift his body from theshore and bring him home.
(44:20):
Oliver James washed in the rainno longer, no longer.
Oliver James Washed in the rainno longer.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I want to give a shout out to the fans of this
song.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oliver James On the kitchen table that your
grandfather did make.
Grandfather, yes, it's a goodtable.
A lot of family, family andfriends, Family, friends death.
(45:16):
Remembering fondly Oliver James,washed in the rain, no longer.
Oliver James, washed in therain, no longer.
(45:37):
Walk with me down the beach andthrough the valley floor.
Love for the one you no more.
Love for the one you no more.
(46:12):
For the one you no more.
Back we go to your brother'shouse and, dear my dear, the
sound of ancient voices Ringingsoft upon your ear.
Oliver James, washed in therain, no longer.
(46:40):
Oliver James, washed in therain, no longer.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
All right, yeah, that's it, man.
I mean, that's the no longerLike it's, and that's a good way
to end it, I guess.
So it's it's.
That was a great song.
Yes, very nice so, but you knowthere's a lot of great songs on
here.
I can see how it got itsreputation after listening to
all that, so we should probablyget into get right into it.
(47:27):
What do you think in terms ofyour top three?
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I'm going to go number three, meadowlarks.
That was a great song.
Yeah, yeah going meadowlarks,just good, good choice.
The flight, the nature, it'sgood reprieve from, from some of
their other bangers.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Right, you know I'm going to, you know I'm going to
say yeah, I'm going to say tiger, mountain peasant song is my
number three.
Very good, it's a yeah, I'mgoing to go to the dark side on
(48:15):
this one.
These, these, uh, these songsabout death, yeah, are you know?
They fit with the theme andthat that was.
It was just very melodic and Ilike the fact that these songs
are like straight into the point.
They're not too long, right,they're just.
They hit you and they don't putin unnecessary fill fill or
(48:36):
guitar solo stuff you know, thisis like this is this is very
unique and it's raw.
It's a good album yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Uh, they're not beating around the bush, they're
not, yeah, it is, it's a bushthat that grandmother planted,
like thousands of centuries ago,hey um okay, yeah, we can't get
to your number two soon enough.
Um, I'm going to go.
Sun it rises, the fourshadowing riff.
(49:04):
Uh, could be a foreshadowing ofmy number.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Okay, oh, wow, okay, that's your number two.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah, just right off the bat.
Good song it in.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
I'm going to go Metal Arcs number two.
I liked that song.
It was good, very good, melodic.
I like the theme of the birds,that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
That was very nice Birds are great Big bird fans
here.
Okay, you know.
Honestly, honorable mention toQuiet Houses, I should say Okay,
yeah, that finished strong.
Yeah, it did finish strong, itwould it was repetitive.
My my list is a littlerepetitive but a great ending.
(49:59):
Um, but my number one is raggedwood.
Yeah, saw that coming kudosyeah kudos to that.
Just had a great bridge.
It had the really thought outum sections and the coda yep
(50:19):
okay all right, send it back tothe coda, that's right yeah,
okay, you know I heard them.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
stirring was pretty good, you like that was the one
that didn't have any of thewords to it, that was yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
And Oliver.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
James is in my head now because we ended with that
and it was just so like solemnand it was like a also enjoyed.
Yeah, it was also enjoyed, youknow.
But I'm going to have to gowith you.
Ragged wood is like it's thetops of the non-hits, you know,
(50:58):
substantially.
Um, it was a longer they justlike yeah the whole thing, man,
everything that you said andmore.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
It was just a great tune and uh but the hits on this
white winter hymnal and blueridge mountains really piqued my
interest first in this album tobegin with.
So right, shout out to the hitson this yeah, shout out to the
hits that might not be hits foreverybody, because this band is
more, not always, mainstream.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Well, yeah, norwegian full indie folk is not, you
know it's, it's just notcommercially palatable, but um,
there's no correlation betweenpopularity and quality, and uh,
which is that's the reason whywe do the show.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
We're never spoken.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
That's the purpose of the show is to.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
That was your big brain, brad.
Comment of the night.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
All right.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
So we're going to finish strong yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
We're tying those.
Yeah, tie a bow in it.
Simple lines, simple lines,intertwining.
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